[00:12] lubuntu 14.04. remmina rdc to window 2008 server. server view from lubuntu client is ugle. colors saturated, icons distorted. [00:12] http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1920318 [00:13] color depth didn't really do anythin' for me. [00:13] any other thoughts or sugegestions? [00:14] mgodzilla: remmina handles multiple protocols. should i assume rdp? [00:14] i'm sorry wxl - i'm n00b to this. [00:14] yeah, rdp. [00:15] mgodzilla: did you try any other rdp clients? that would be the first test. if none of them provide any help it might be on the server side :) [00:15] mgodzilla: if you're command line friendly, try rdesktop [00:15] oh? [00:15] * mgodzilla googles [00:15] thx. wxl :) [00:16] mgodzilla: also to sort of side step your problem, you might try using no machine instead [00:16] * wxl can't remember if it's in the repos [00:16] !search nomachine [00:16] Found: [00:16] bah [00:16] ah. the app. is call nomachine? [00:16] hold on i'll link you in a sec [00:16] https://www.nomachine.com/ [00:16] thank you again. [00:16] i don't think it's in the repos [00:17] but it's available for windows, os x, linux, mobile [00:17] we used to use rdp for remote access at work and switched to nomachine and several things that didn't work now work wonderfully [00:17] oh wow. record a desktop session. i like that. [00:17] * wxl nods [00:17] nice. thanks for the tip :) [00:17] * mgodzilla hug [00:18] before rdp we were using logmein which is $$$ but nice and nomachine is free and has many of those same features [00:18] XD [00:21] why does sound mutes when screen is locked? How to stop this behaviour? [00:32] What's the difference in power saving over perf.? http://i.imgur.com/ifjkwOK.png [01:44] absk007: power saving will be preferred over performance [01:53] Hey all [01:56] How r u hyperAir [01:57] fine thanks [01:59] Good [01:59] What motivated u to use lubuntu? [02:01] lubuntu is a nice light base for most any work flow [02:02] Thats cool [02:03] I was using puppy on a ten year old machine and i decided to try lubuntu on a separate hdd since i have so many of them [02:09] puppy is lighter.. at a cost [02:09] Yes i know [02:10] Holsten can u elaborate please [02:10] !tab [02:10] You can use your key for autocompletion of nicknames in IRC, as well as for completion of filenames and programs on the command line. [02:11] the way puppy loads into ram is faster.. but that is a compromise... and the ubuntu base and package system that is "heavier" about lubuntu is a feature.. lubuntu is a balance [02:38] Hmmm [02:43] What are other benefits [02:43] what [02:51] Ok [02:52] swift110: i don't. [02:53] swift110: i use ubuntu myself, but that's because i want a fully featured desktop without compromising on anything. [02:54] Oh ok [02:54] I need something light enough to use with 512 mb ram [02:54] lubuntu is light enough to use on 512MB ram. [02:54] in fact, the older versions of ubuntu proper were light enough to use on 512MB RMA [02:55] RAM* [02:55] just stick with 32-bit [02:55] the 64-bit version will use more memory. not as much as double, but easily 25-50% more [03:00] I see [03:01] Lol i thought of upgrading to 1 gb but i want what i have to be put to.usr [03:01] Use [03:11] swift110: 2 or 4 gb's is pretty standard these days.. id say, max out the capacity in the box.. its likely quite cheap these days to do so [03:12] fact: nothing software makes the hardware any "better" or "faster".. you can just use less resources, and lubuntu is a nice balance for that.. many more heavy, and many more light [03:58] I have used lubuntu on a box with 512 mb of ram it is useable and have gotten job interviews after applying for jobs on it === yofel_ is now known as yofel [09:29] Helo all [10:40] hello [10:40] where are the xorg settings stored in lubuntu 14.04? [10:40] I detached one monitor but lightdm still loads two screen [10:40] so I cant see the login window [10:41] can I reset that somehow? /etc/X11/xorg.conf is not present === Pici` is now known as Pici [11:01] Aison: if you need xorg, you need to install it. [11:02] xorg is installed :P but the settings are completely strange [11:02] I can move out with the mouse over the screen borders [11:06] Aison: have a look at http://askubuntu.com/questions/217758/how-to-make-an-xorg-conf-file [11:07] thx [11:10] hello there, got some trouble with my dongle wifi [11:12] could u give me a hand? [11:13] !detail [11:13] oh come on ubottu [11:13] !details [11:13] Please elaborate; your question or issue may not seem clear or detailed enough for people to help you. Please give more detailed information, errors, steps, and possibly configuration files (use the !pastebin to avoid flooding the channel) [11:13] * yz3pD gives donglewifi a hand [11:17] here we are, sorry I was away [11:18] I've got pastebin ready for use [11:18] lsusb shows that the dongle is connected [11:18] http://pastebin.com/jS31pQEm [11:19] donglewifi: What is the actual issue? [11:19] I cannot connect to the internet/don't see any wireless [11:19] I am connecting now with LAN [11:20] temporarily [11:20] donglewifi: Are you on 14.04? [11:20] donglewifi: what version of lubuntu are you using? [11:20] I am not completely sure [11:20] I guess is 14.04 [11:21] How can I quickly check? [11:21] donglewifi: "lsb_release -a" [11:21] donglewifi: Can you check under Preferences - Additional drivers, if there's some firmware to download for the chipset? [11:21] thanks hateball , yep, I confirm it's 14.04 [11:22] donglewifi: If you have 14.04, then do an update which will pull in the fix for nm-applet [11:22] I have done it earlier, I'll do it again if helps [11:22] donglewifi: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade [11:22] Googling suggests it uses rt2800 which I know broke for me in some kernel version... [11:22] Well the module works, just firmware binary is outdated and wont load [11:23] do you reckon? [11:23] I have downloaded two tar packages [11:23] followed some instructions, but made it worse :( [11:23] so, I am pretty desperate [11:24] donglewifi: if you do "lsmod|grep rt" does it show rt2800 ? [11:25] http://pastebin.com/ZwcTX7c3 [11:25] donglewifi: also look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Device/Tenda_W311M#rt2800usb_driver [11:25] nothing relevant I assume [11:25] I had a look phillw , thanks anyway [11:25] donglewifi: nope. how about all of lsmod [11:26] if you have loaded some other module perhaps [11:26] http://pastebin.com/tmwmDPE8 [11:26] donglewifi: and links to the "some instructions" would be helpful as well I guess [11:26] ok [11:26] sorry, I forgot to do it [11:27] http://lkubuntu.wordpress.com/2011/09/09/how-to-compile-rt2870sta-successfully/ [11:27] doesnt look like any modules for wifi are loaded at all [11:27] I did what this guy was saying, but made it worse [11:28] to begin with I could see wireless, and it tried to connect to the wifi, but didn't work. Now I cannot see anything at all [11:28] It's weird isn't it? [11:29] not really very weird [11:29] right, that's good then [11:29] what you've done is blacklist rt2800usb which is the module you need, and instead loaded rt2870sta [11:29] so that needs to be undone [11:30] I thought there were to many blacklisted things [11:30] How can I do this? [11:30] donglewifi: you can "sudo nano /etc/modules" and comment out the rt2870 [11:31] ok, i see, but 3 of them [11:31] likewise in /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist.conf you scroll to the end and remove the modules you blacklisted [11:31] donglewifi: three of what? rt2870sta? perhaps you ran the thing 3 times? [11:31] http://pastebin.com/rge7YrfQ [11:32] just comment out or remove them all [11:32] ok [11:32] not lp tho [11:32] ok [11:32] :D [11:33] I did delete those three but I cannot see any save document anywhere.. [11:34] what should I press? [11:34] just quit? [11:34] Ctrl and X [11:34] ^ [11:34] is askink what file name to write [11:35] donglewifi: kust press enter [11:35] s/kust/just [11:35] ok, thanks [11:36] ready for the next step [11:36] nano will always suggest to save as the file name you opened [11:36] donglewifi: reboot :D [11:36] donglewifi: /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist.conf [11:36] needs to be edited as well, if you have not yet done that [11:36] ouch, has he not that yet... [11:37] too many cooks.... hateball I'll leave him in your capable hands :) [11:37] :) [11:37] :) [11:37] phillw: well hang around :p [11:37] I am at work, so who knows how much time Ihave [11:38] thanks hateball, I am really thankful of your time helping me [11:39] I know how much of a PITA these chipsets are [11:39] http://pastebin.com/cDSGWVDt [11:40] btw, i downloaded a zip file called: RT2870_Firmware_V22.zip [11:40] do I need this? [11:41] donglewifi: hopefully not. save it for now unless you need the space [11:42] Yeah, I know tell people to just get http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Mini-150Mbps-USB-WiFi-Wireless-Adapter-150M-LAN-Card-802-11n-g-b-2dbi-Antenna-UK/271048274239?_trksid=p2050601.c100103.m2451&_trkparms=aid%3D111001%26algo%3DREC.SEED%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D20140721095842%26meid%3D8864319498041210802%26pid%3D100103%26prg%3D20140721095842%26rkt%3D4%26clkid%3D8864322381674458025&_qi=RTM1793565 [11:42] donglewifi: well, it would be sudo nano /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist.conf [11:42] sudo being your way of elevating your rights, nano being the editor, and the rest being the file to edit [11:44] hateball: he could also use gksudo leafpad /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist.conf if he's not familiar with nano (and no telling a new comer to use vi :P ) [11:44] thanks, this is the result: http://pastebin.com/7JGLqg9E [11:44] (actually I am using gedit :D ) [11:45] phillw: Yeah I know, just didnt want to switch editors midway :p [11:45] besides, knowing how to use a cli editor comes in handy... [11:45] donglewifi: oh man :D [11:46] donglewifi: well. that's not a good looking file. remove everything from line 56 and down [11:46] (with dark colour scheme) :D [11:46] ok boss [11:46] done [11:46] Then save the file, and now we can reboot the machine. Still not done however. [11:47] ok, I kinda thought that, but it's a step forward :D [11:47] see ya soon [11:50] ok, now I am at the previous stage before the mess [11:50] donglewifi: alright, let's check first with "lsmod|grep rt" if it loaded rt2800 by itself this time [11:51] I can see everything now but obviously the wireless doesn't wor [11:51] k [11:51] ok [11:51] donglewifi: You can see networks now, but not connect, is that correct? [11:51] yep, that's correct hateball [11:52] http://pastebin.com/08iMuBmp [11:52] donglewifi: Now do "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade" and after that check in the additional drivers again [11:53] ok, so I do the same: lsmod|grep rt? [11:54] donglewifi: no no [11:54] i did update and upgrade [11:54] donglewifi: in preferences -> software -> additional drivers [11:54] it seems there was nothing new added [11:54] (I think, not on lubuntu atm) [11:54] alright [11:54] but it's in there someplace [11:55] yep found it [11:55] then? [11:55] Does it show any additional things to install? [11:55] Or well, enable [11:56] Ehm it seems that the Nvidia Geforce [11:56] Yes I saw you were using nouveau, it's up to you if you want the proprietary driver or not [11:56] But... it would be nice if there was mention of the wifi stuff [11:56] actually, that's another problem I had :D [11:57] I have a graphic card, but am using the integrated one because started to not show the screen [11:57] anyway [11:58] there is nothing about wireless [11:59] donglewifi: if you do... "dmesg | grep rt2" does it show anything about failing to load firmware? [12:00] it seems to be something like 'disabling', i'll paste it in a second [12:00] http://pastebin.com/t27uQesB [12:01] what's this 'AP' [12:02] it seems that here lies the problem [12:05] it does seem it could be related to that network manager bug phillw spoke of [12:05] https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/network-manager-applet/+bug/1104476 [12:05] Launchpad bug 1104476 in network-manager (openSUSE) "Network manager cannot connect to WPA2/PEAP/MSCHAPv2 network without CA_Certificate" [High,Confirmed] [12:06] donglewifi: what is the output of "modinfo rt2800usb" ? [12:06] starting to run out of both ideas and time [12:08] it's weird, the id for the device you pasted suggested it was 3072, yet according to dmesg it is 3071 [12:08] http://pastebin.com/dK3gaB3x [12:09] :( that's really odd [12:16] however, to tell you the full story, I had it working in Ubuntu. Then I wanted to get Lubuntu because of its lightweight and that's it :) [12:17] donglewifi: is the package linux-firmware installed? I guess it is [12:17] donglewifi: hateball wifi stuff is done in core. not by lubuntu [12:17] ehm, I am not sure [12:18] can I check? [12:18] phillw: yes? [12:18] how? :D [12:19] donglewifi: how did you install lubuntu? [12:19] phillw: well, it could be some freaky depend on ubuntu-desktop vs lubuntu-desktop in this case, but even that is doubtful [12:19] anyhow! [12:19] I deleted ubuntu and installed from usb [12:19] donglewifi: apt-cache policy linux-firmware [12:20] should say if it's installed [12:20] hateball: I want the instal usb checking, usb writers are creating bad images that leave you in the land of 'silly errors'. [12:21] boot from usb and run the self test. [12:22] I am really sorry phillw , but I don't know what self test is [12:23] do you mean I should use the same usb pen that I used to install Lubuntu? [12:23] let's not get sidetracked :| [12:23] (there is something you should know, the pc is 64 bit but I have installed a 32 bit OS, does this matter?) [12:24] no [12:24] ok [12:24] phew! [12:25] donglewifi: what does "ls -lashv /lib/firmware|grep rt28" say? [12:25] because that's where the rt2870.bin firmware should be... if the linux-firmware package is installed [12:25] http://pastebin.com/kQUm4pGP [12:27] donglewifi: when you boot from USB stick, it offers an option the "Test CD", I'd like that done. [12:27] ok [12:27] i will do it asap [12:27] see you in a wee while [12:27] thanks [12:27] guys [12:28] everything looks fine, I don't even know [12:37] Hey [12:50] wb donglewifi how is it now? [12:50] it did not give any errors [12:51] so I assume nothing wrong with the installation# [12:52] donglewifi: it is still possible, so do a boot with the usb stick and get it to check itself [12:53] sorry phillw , could you explain what check itself mean? [12:55] donglewifi: when the usb boots, it offers a couple of options.. one of them is "Check CD", this also works on the USB [13:03] I just did that [13:03] no issues encountered [13:04] donglewifi: good news, does wifi work? [13:05] not yet my friend :( [13:05] do you have the nm-applet ? [13:57] I am live booting lubuntu 14.04 on a dell latitude D820 and it doesn't recognize the wifi card [13:57] It is an intel [13:58] Glorfindel: re-boot and do self test (it is in the boot screen) [13:59] ok [14:07] Hello [14:15] is there any good new programm for lubuntu? [14:22] comics_idees: for what? you can fire up any ubuntu live CD and look at what is in the repos for 14.04 and see what is "new" [14:24] comics_idees: or, you can be a real man and test 14.10 :P [14:24] 14.10 is not lts [14:25] comics_idees: what software are you interested in? [14:25] for desktop pc [14:25] anythins [14:25] anything useful [14:25] comics_idees: if you are interested in "new", you'll want to go with the latest releases, and likely not stay on the LTS's.. ubuntu is not a rolling release [14:25] comics_idees: you want new stuff and LTS????.... Massive fail [14:25] holstein: +1 [14:25] comics_idees: for what use? there are literally thousands of packages in the repos.. what are you trying to do? [14:26] for better video, graphics etc [14:26] better use of cards [14:26] comics_idees: "better" video what? you mean, 3d grahpics drivers? [14:27] no better use of existing old video card [14:27] comics_idees: you can always ask the creators of the cards for "better" software.. its really ultimately up to them to support the products they create.. *all* of linux is open, and every company is able to and encouraged to support the devices they create [14:28] yes ok [14:28] comics_idees: there will likely never be better support for older cards.. quite possibly, they fall into the "legacy" category and actually dont get support [14:29] comics_idees: be sure you check with your manufacturer and see what policy they have on linux support, and if they do not officially support linux, you can test upcoming releases and drivers and report bugs officially [14:29] !bug [14:29] If you find a bug in Ubuntu or any of its derivatives, please file a bug using the command « ubuntu-bug » - See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ReportingBugs for other ways to report bugs. [14:29] also, anything that steam suggests should have the latest GPU drivers.. [14:29] !steam [14:29] Valve have officially announced that they are developing Steam and are working with !ubuntu during their development, see http://blogs.valvesoftware.com/linux/steamd-penguins/ for further details, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Valve for install instructions, you can also join #ubuntu-steam for discussion. [14:30] though, ppa's are not officially supported, they do provide a way to add more recent drivers to your system for GPU's.. though, on older hardware, that is likely not the concern.. [14:30] comics_idees: what is your concern with your graphics? are you trying to get 3d and not able to? are you trying to play games? and cannot? [14:31] no I want to watch video [14:31] and causes problems [14:31] comics_idees: what video? [14:31] for example dvdrip [14:31] comics_idees: you dont need graphics drivers to watch video.. what video? where? [14:31] comics_idees: dvdrip is *not* a video.. thats an application [14:31] in an lubuntu software [14:31] comics_idees: are you trying to watch a DVD you ripped? where? in what? [14:32] comics_idees: lubuntu *is* ubuntu.. all lubuntu software is in the main ubuntu repos.. [14:32] comics_idees: what video are you having what trouble with? [14:32] for any kind of video, divx avi etc [14:32] it is not good play [14:33] comics_idees: not "good"? or not playing at all? what makes you think this is related to your graphics hardware support? [14:33] it plays the video but it makes pauses and freezings [14:33] comics_idees: what are the specs of the system? could be, you are on lagacy hardware that may not provide you the funtionality you seek in linux [14:34] my graphics card is very old [14:34] comics_idees: i would try to remove the driver from the equation.. i would use a vesa driver and test.. you can force a vesa driver easily with a custom xorg.conf [14:34] comics_idees: sure.. but, nothing in software will make your graphics card any newer.. [14:34] what is a vesa driver [14:35] another problem is that I cannot play google earth [14:35] i would try the vesa driver, and test.. http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1270209 try it with this resolution and test.. dont even bother configuring it [14:35] comics_idees: google earth requires 3d [14:35] it says graphics card does not support 3d [14:35] comics_idees: sure.. so you dont get google earth support from your hardware vendor for linux [14:36] comics_idees: you dont get 3d support [14:36] however i play google earth in same pc but not in lubutu [14:36] I play google earth windows version [14:36] hi, what can cause /etc/fonts/local.conf not working? thanks. [14:36] comics_idees: sure.. you are guaranteed 3d support from the vendor for windows.. there is likely a little sticker on the box that guarantees windows support.. [14:37] comics_idees: you can have the same support from them for *any* operating system that can run on the hardware.. linux, or whatever.. but they have only promised you windows support [14:37] my lxterminal uses Monospace font. but that is wrong. It's not the one I configured in /etc/fonts/local.conf. this is weird. This never happens before. [14:37] I dont know if it has 3d but it works in windows but not in lubuntu [14:37] comics_idees: you stated it does *not* have 3d support [14:37] yes [14:38] but I dont know if windows needs 3d [14:38] maybe it does not need [14:38] comics_idees: "works in windows" is irrelevant, since, they promised you windows would work on the hardware.. they never promised you linux woul [14:38] would* [14:38] comics_idees: its not that windows needs it.. its the google earth *requires* it.. [14:39] comics_idees: so, in windows, where the manufacturer has provided you a driver with 3d support, google earth works.. in linux where you are responsible for driver support, its not working [14:39] comics_idees: what graphics chip do you have? have you tried any proprietary drivers? [14:39] I use lubuntu in 2 different pcs [14:40] one has a ati radeon 9000/9100 [14:40] graphics card [14:40] comics_idees: is that the one we are talking about? [14:40] yes [14:40] comics_idees: or, both dont do 3d? [14:40] both [14:40] comics_idees: have you tried the proprietary driver? on either? [14:41] I am not sure [14:41] comics_idees: do you know what a proprietary driver is? the manufacturers do provide drivers for linux in many cases [14:41] yes but where is the ati radeon 9000/9100 [14:41] driver [14:41] I cannot find it [14:42] and how to install it [14:42] comics_idees: what have you tried? the driver is in the repos.. you *can* find it.. [14:42] !ati [14:42] For Ati/NVidia/Matrox video cards, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VideoDriverHowto [14:42] comics_idees: in many cases, you dont need it.. but, the proprietary driver is likely the only chance for providing 3d support.. and if you have not tried it, try it [14:43] comics_idees: is the other device ati as well? [14:43] no I dont checked it [14:43] I must check the other [14:43] comics_idees: well, i would focus on one machine at a time, and as always, have data backed up and read up on installing and removing the driver modules [14:45] does anybody use xombrero browser? [14:45] comics_idees: keep in mind, a team of professionals were hired to make sure windows works on that hardware.. you are basically taking that task on yourself for linux support.. [14:45] hm ok [14:47] and, if the vendor has not made it easy for linux support, it may not be easy, or possible.. there are many devices that do not get 3d support in linux.. though, steam coming to linux has really helped.. i would follow any advice you read in the steam community for driver support [14:47] !steam [14:47] Valve have officially announced that they are developing Steam and are working with !ubuntu during their development, see http://blogs.valvesoftware.com/linux/steamd-penguins/ for further details, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Valve for install instructions, you can also join #ubuntu-steam for discussion. [14:49] so what is steam? [14:49] should I install steam client to pc? [14:49] comics_idees: no.. i didnt say that at all [14:49] !steam | comics_idees [14:49] comics_idees: Valve have officially announced that they are developing Steam and are working with !ubuntu during their development, see http://blogs.valvesoftware.com/linux/steamd-penguins/ for further details, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Valve for install instructions, you can also join #ubuntu-steam for discussion. [14:50] comics_idees: what im saying is, steam is a gaming application that requires 3d. and they also now support linux.. so, anything they have documented will be relevant to you [14:51] so if I install steam it might prompt to download some drivers that I need [14:53] comics_idees: no, i did not say that [14:53] comics_idees: no need to go installing steam, or another other applications.. there is *no* piece of software that is going to magically make your hardware supported [14:54] comics_idees: what you can do is read up on the community support at steam, since steam is requiring 3d, and there is a large community there, and any driver info for your card at steam will be relevant [14:54] comics_idees: start by literally simply installing the driver from the repos.. [15:16] o/ [15:22] wxl [15:22] did you told me about xombrero? :) [15:24] suncokret: i don't know. do you love it or hate it? it you love it, yes. otherwise, no. ;) [15:25] i can't find any options, you told me there is favorites... [15:25] :favorites [15:26] where Unit193 come from so fast [15:26] ? [15:26] :) [15:26] suncokret: Unit193 is the master of xombrero. [15:26] i know [15:26] you told me last time [15:27] Nah, I don't use favorites. [15:27] i start xombrero but i can't find any options [15:27] it don't have menu bar [15:27] on right click it don't have any options [15:27] Looks like you need to read the manpage. It's a vi like browser, it's not going to have those. [15:27] he means it DOESN'T have those. [15:28] * wxl does point out that gvim such things, and proceeds to point and laugh at poor old Unit193 [15:28] xombrero is about half lighter than opera [15:28] i use opera [15:28] gvim isn't vim. :D [15:28] firefox is much heavier than opera [15:29] xombrero is ligthe than opera but don't have much great options which opera have [15:29]