| === ThatGraemeGuy_ is now known as ThatGraemeGuy | ||
| mazal | morning everyone | 06:20 |
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| * mazal learned a nice lesson last night | 06:21 | |
| mazal | charl, that script failed again last night. | 06:23 |
| mazal | Checked the destination this morning when I got up , nothing. Same as yesterday morning the rar file from a manual was gone and no new file there. | 06:24 |
| mazal | What got me wondering even further was the fact that a manual folder I created in the destination was also gone | 06:24 |
| mazal | Then a light went on , stopped looking at cron or the script as the problem and started looking at something that might be deleting files | 06:31 |
| mazal | And voila , found the culprit. An rsync job , from another script that runs 4am deltes the folder | 06:32 |
| mazal | So what seems to be happening , 12am the tar script runs and creates the file. At 4am another script deletes the contents of the same folder and rar file gone. | 06:33 |
| mazal | 6am I check and can't find file | 06:33 |
| mazal | Pointed this script with the dissapearing act to another folder now to test. I am fairly certain it will work now | 06:34 |
| ThatGraemeGuy | morning all | 06:45 |
| mazal | Morning ThatGraemeGuy | 06:48 |
| charl | morning mazal, ThatGraemeGuy | 07:11 |
| ThatGraemeGuy | hey charl | 07:12 |
| mazal | maaz , coke please | 07:40 |
| Maaz | Look in the fridge mazal Do you expect me to do everything for you | 07:40 |
| charl | Maaz: coffee on | 07:40 |
| * Maaz starts grinding coffee | 07:40 | |
| mazal | maaz , there any beer in there as well ? | 07:41 |
| Maaz | mazal: Excuse me? | 07:41 |
| mazal | Maaz , beer , booze , hardehout | 07:41 |
| Maaz | mazal: What? | 07:41 |
| mazal | hehe | 07:41 |
| mazal | Man I am so thirsty | 07:41 |
| mazal | Drove by shop twice now and didn't buy coke :( | 07:41 |
| mazal | Charl , you saw my feedback ? | 07:42 |
| mazal | Pebkac error with two parts: a. Not remembering exactly what an old script created long ago does , b. Pointing a second backup script to same location as old one | 07:42 |
| charl | mazal: ah :) good to hear you got it sorted | 07:44 |
| charl | hi Kilos | 07:44 |
| Maaz | Coffee's ready for charl! | 07:44 |
| mazal | When I saw that empty folder again this morning I was like what the &^$%^$&^$ is going on. Actually thought at one stage there is a problem with the drive. This one really puzzled me | 07:45 |
| Kilos | hi ChanServ ThatGraemeGuy inetpro and others | 07:45 |
| charl | :D | 07:45 |
| charl | tab autocomplete fail again | 07:45 |
| mazal | When I lost faith in the rsync one I should have either a. Disabled it in cron , or b. pointed the tar one to it's own seperate folder | 07:45 |
| Kilos | oi! i didnt even see that sorry charl | 07:46 |
| Kilos | hi mazal | 07:46 |
| mazal | More oom | 07:46 |
| charl | lol Kilos | 07:47 |
| mazal | Oom Kilos , ek het die spook gevang wat my files delete die heel tyd lol | 07:47 |
| Kilos | wat was dit mazal ? | 07:47 |
| mazal | Langerige storie , maar kom neer op my ou rsync backup script wat die rar files delete elke oggend 4uur | 07:48 |
| Kilos | lol | 07:48 |
| Kilos | this hexchat decided i need a new channel open here | 07:49 |
| mazal | Soos ek nou daar gese het , toe ek die nuwe een gemaak het moes ek daai ou script gaan disabled het of die nuwe een na sy eie folder toe gestuur het | 07:49 |
| Kilos | ##unavailable | 07:49 |
| Kilos | amper 500 mense daar | 07:49 |
| Kilos | ah conflicting scripts | 07:50 |
| mazal | rsync goes like " Hang on , these are not on my source , I am deleting this " lol | 07:50 |
| Kilos | die een steel die ander een se pap | 07:50 |
| mazal | Which is my fault not rsync's | 07:50 |
| Kilos | well apologise to rsync | 07:50 |
| mazal | Well at least that is what I am thinking anyway. Is the only thing that makes sense. Will see tomorrow morning if my files are there or not. I pointed them to their own seperate destination | 07:51 |
| Kilos | lol good luck | 07:51 |
| mazal | Only question left now | 07:52 |
| mazal | Oom rsync nog steeds in moeilikheid oor backup data wat korup was. Dis wat die hele gesukkel met 'n tweede backup laat begin het | 07:53 |
| Kilos | ai! | 07:54 |
| mazal | Maar ek gaan daai nog toets sodra ek die tyd het. Ek vermoed ek weet wat gebeur het | 07:54 |
| mazal | Maar is lang test om dit te toets | 07:55 |
| mazal | Ek dink saterdag oggend | 07:55 |
| Kilos | eina man, geduld help | 07:55 |
| mazal | Jy sien daai rsync hardloop in cron elke 3 ure. Ek dink dat die probleem het op my life data gekom , toevallig net na dit toe hardloop die sync wat die probleem toe backup. Toe ek teruglaai toe laai ek die probleem terug | 07:56 |
| mazal | Oom verstaan wat ek bedoel ? | 07:56 |
| Kilos | ja | 07:57 |
| mazal | MAW , dit het dit laat lyk of die backup useless | 07:57 |
| mazal | Wat my vertroue in resync laat verloor het | 07:57 |
| Kilos | is daar iewers n plek waar jy kan sien watter scripts jy in het | 07:58 |
| mazal | Dit skep vir my 'n nuwe probleem. Auto backups is nie noodwendig betroubaar nie ( want dit backup probleme ). Ek moet either manual backups ook byhou. OF 'n hele clomp verskillende scripts maak wat elkeen op 'n ander dag run | 07:58 |
| Kilos | eish | 07:59 |
| mazal | First though , to test my theory and to get my trust in rsync back , I have to let the back run at midnight. Next morning make a manual backup. Then go delete the source data on purpose | 08:00 |
| mazal | Then put back the rsync backup. | 08:00 |
| Kilos | sjoe | 08:00 |
| mazal | If rsync data fine , then I think my theory is correct. THEN I must start creating a script for every day of the week to a seperate folder for each one to prevent auto backup of problems | 08:01 |
| mazal | If last one backed up the error. Then go 1 day back | 08:01 |
| ThatGraemeGuy | morning Kilos | 08:01 |
| mazal | Or just do a manual as well every day | 08:01 |
| mazal | Dunno yet what is best option | 08:01 |
| ThatGraemeGuy | mazal: I still think you need to install a proper backup app. it solves all these problems | 08:02 |
| mazal | ThatGraemeGuy, I was unable to find one with scheduling | 08:02 |
| Kilos | deja-dup | 08:02 |
| Kilos | ? | 08:02 |
| ThatGraemeGuy | heh, ok then | 08:03 |
| mazal | If you guys know of any please share | 08:03 |
| mazal | AND it must be able to kill process before start AND start processes after backup | 08:03 |
| mazal | That is the thing I struggle the most with to find in a backup app | 08:04 |
| ThatGraemeGuy | http://backuppc.sourceforge.net/ | 08:04 |
| mazal | Many has the scheduling covered , but I struggle with that stop and start processes part | 08:04 |
| Kilos | many have | 08:06 |
| mazal | I'm looking at that link of ThatGraemeGuy now | 08:07 |
| bushtech_ | mazal: Also have a look at crashplan | 08:11 |
| * mazal makes notes | 08:12 | |
| Kilos | hi bushtech_ | 08:12 |
| bushtech_ | more Kilos | 08:13 |
| mazal | And I don't even need something heavy advanced. Just backup home , do it in a schedule , stop processes before , start processes after | 08:13 |
| mazal | No need even for system file backup. My imaging has that covered | 08:13 |
| ThatGraemeGuy | if you wanted to get really fancy you could make your script triggered by udev so that plugging in a specific usb drive would automatically run your backup script | 08:15 |
| ThatGraemeGuy | well that wouldn't help if its always plugged in i suppose | 08:15 |
| ThatGraemeGuy | but if that were the case its not a very useful backup anyway | 08:16 |
| mazal | I don't need any such fancy things. Just those few basic stuff | 08:16 |
| ThatGraemeGuy | sometimes we don't do these things because we need them, but because "wooo, look what I managed to do!" | 08:16 |
| ThatGraemeGuy | ;-) | 08:17 |
| mazal | It must basically shutdown names processes. Backup folder a to destination b. Start processes | 08:17 |
| mazal | Is actually a very basic thing I need | 08:17 |
| ThatGraemeGuy | pkill --signal term namepfprocess | 08:24 |
| ThatGraemeGuy | sleep 15 | 08:24 |
| ThatGraemeGuy | pkill --signal kill nameofprocess | 08:24 |
| ThatGraemeGuy | rsync $OPTS | 08:24 |
| ThatGraemeGuy | done | 08:24 |
| mazal | What's the difference between pkill and killall ? | 08:25 |
| ThatGraemeGuy | uuuuh | 08:26 |
| ThatGraemeGuy | the 1 is 1 character shorter | 08:26 |
| ThatGraemeGuy | :-p | 08:26 |
| mazal | kewl | 08:26 |
| ThatGraemeGuy | i think killall works for specific names, and pkill does pattern matching | 08:26 |
| mazal | Just wondered if there is a disadvantage to killall | 08:27 |
| ThatGraemeGuy | but i've have to read their man pages to determine what the differences were | 08:27 |
| ThatGraemeGuy | or google it even | 08:27 |
| ThatGraemeGuy | http://askubuntu.com/a/27504 | 08:29 |
| Kilos | just gonna restart hexchat | 08:45 |
| inetpro | good mornings | 08:49 |
| ThatGraemeGuy | morning inetpro | 08:49 |
| Kilos | morning inetpro | 08:49 |
| charl | morning inetpro | 08:50 |
| mazal | How do you break a screen card so that the whole vga port sits inside the chassis | 09:03 |
| mazal | How on earth do you achieve that ! | 09:04 |
| Kilos | Maaz, wb | 10:15 |
| Maaz | Thank you so much Kilos my good good friend | 10:15 |
| Kilos | ty cocooncrash | 10:15 |
| Kilos | oh my inetpro topic bar needs updating sometime please | 10:22 |
| mazal | Bye everyone , nice evening | 12:44 |
| nuvolari | aw. almost got to go home at 13:00 | 14:30 |
| nuvolari | without electricity and external telkom UPS's ran down | 14:30 |
| nuvolari | but then as we are about to leave, it came back :'( | 14:30 |
| Kilos | lol | 14:34 |
| charl | good afternoon | 14:45 |
| Kilos | hi charl | 14:45 |
| charl | hi Kilos | 14:45 |
| charl | phew hectic day | 14:45 |
| Kilos | is it coffee time? | 14:45 |
| charl | every day whole day is coffee time | 14:45 |
| Kilos | Maaz, coffee on | 14:45 |
| * Maaz washes some mugs | 14:45 | |
| charl | there is no such thing as coffee no-time | 14:45 |
| charl | Maaz: coffee please | 14:46 |
| Maaz | charl: Righto | 14:46 |
| charl | Maaz: large | 14:46 |
| Maaz | In a beer mug just for you charl | 14:46 |
| charl | that's what i like to hear | 14:46 |
| charl | a german bierhumpen | 14:47 |
| Kilos | thats how i drink my tea | 14:48 |
| Kilos | 500ml beer mug | 14:48 |
| charl | very good | 14:48 |
| charl | at oktoberfest we drink 1 litre | 14:48 |
| Kilos | sjoe | 14:48 |
| Kilos | beer is yucky stuff man | 14:49 |
| Maaz | Coffee's ready for Kilos and charl! | 14:49 |
| Kilos | a beer shandy with 80%lemonade i can handle | 14:50 |
| Kilos | Maaz, danke | 14:50 |
| Maaz | Bitteschön | 14:50 |
| charl | Maaz: danke | 14:50 |
| Maaz | Bitteschön | 14:50 |
| charl | Kilos: this is a real beer glass http://www.sixthseal.com/images/beer%205l%201.jpg | 14:50 |
| charl | http://www.sixthseal.com/images/beer%205l%202.jpg | 14:51 |
| nuvolari | Maaz: coffee please | 14:51 |
| Maaz | nuvolari: There isn't a pot on | 14:51 |
| charl | drinking beer... liek a boss ! | 14:51 |
| nuvolari | Maaz: beer please | 14:51 |
| Maaz | nuvolari: *blink* | 14:51 |
| nuvolari | oh you know all right | 14:52 |
| charl | Kilos what you want is a radler http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Radler | 14:53 |
| charl | The Radler (literally "cyclist", which refers to its reputation as popular sports drink) is a beer-based mixed drink (Biermischgetränk) with a long history in German-speaking regions. | 14:53 |
| Kilos | na im happy with tea and coffee | 14:54 |
| charl | lol | 14:54 |
| charl | radler became ridiculously populair here in NL now recently | 14:55 |
| charl | it all happened in the last 6 or so months | 14:55 |
| charl | people selling radler now everywhere | 14:55 |
| charl | i think it's a girl drink | 14:55 |
| Kilos | no such thing as a girl drink | 14:55 |
| charl | i remember an old nambrew advertisement "we don't drink pink drinks, dave, always keep it real" | 14:55 |
| Kilos | you know what is nice though, old brown sherry when its cold | 14:56 |
| Kilos | haha i remember that add yes | 14:56 |
| Kilos | we had it with some other drink | 14:57 |
| charl | we don't drink a shady shandy, dave, always keep it real | 14:58 |
| charl | a good sherry is nice (on the odd occasion) | 14:58 |
| charl | ok i'm off | 14:59 |
| charl | ttyl all | 14:59 |
| Kilos | ok | 14:59 |
| inetpro | yikes! | 16:10 |
| inetpro | having to deal with a mail queue of more than 80,000 messages is a lot of fun | 16:11 |
| Kilos | ouch | 16:30 |
| Symmetria | son of a bitch, I just sprained my ankle | 17:30 |
| Symmetria | :( | 17:30 |
| charl | Symmetria: bah, how did that happen ? | 17:54 |
| charl | inetpro: mail messages ? | 17:55 |
| Kilos | haha inetpro are you reading them all or just need to route them somewhere | 18:16 |
| charl | hi smile | 18:18 |
| Kilos | hi smile | 18:18 |
| smile | hi! :D | 18:19 |
| charl | how are you smile | 18:19 |
| smile | Linux 3.16 will be used by the next release of Debian, Ubuntu and Fedora :o | 18:20 |
| smile | charl: fine, just tired :) Listening music now. How're you? | 18:20 |
| charl | i'm doing well | 18:20 |
| charl | also a little tired but it's almost weekend :D | 18:20 |
| charl | hi SilverCode | 18:22 |
| smile | charl: that's right :) | 18:36 |
| charl | holiday time is coming for me now | 18:37 |
| charl | have to enjoy what is left of this summer | 18:37 |
| charl | not that i feel we really had much of a summer with this weather | 18:38 |
| charl | but yeah high in the 30s is also not my idea of nice weather like what we had a short while ago | 18:38 |
| superfly | I'm over winter, ready for summer. | 18:38 |
| charl | smile: do you happen to have any recommendations for vps providers in europe? i'm growing a little dissatisfied with hetzner | 18:40 |
| charl | i'm looking at tilaa and netcup right now | 18:42 |
| charl | there's digital ocean but they're american (i'm worried about latency) | 18:42 |
| charl | tried transip but they have extortionist pricing if you go over 1tb | 18:44 |
| superfly | charl: Linode has presence in London, if that works for you | 18:44 |
| charl | linde is ridiculously expensive last time i checked | 18:44 |
| superfly | not much more than others... | 18:44 |
| charl | lemme take a look now ... | 18:45 |
| superfly | at the time that I looked they were the cheapest option | 18:45 |
| superfly | and they're always upgrading the packages | 18:45 |
| charl | ah i see, they dropped their pricing quite sharply | 18:45 |
| charl | that's actually quite affordable | 18:45 |
| charl | but once again i see bandwidth limits | 18:46 |
| charl | what happens if you go over that 2TB ? | 18:46 |
| charl | transip also had that but then you have to pay some extortionist price and you can't block it | 18:47 |
| charl | i actually sent them a mail "what happend when i get ddosed" they answered basically "your problem" | 18:50 |
| inetpro | charl, Kilos: email | 18:52 |
| inetpro | luckily I could just delete them from the queue | 18:52 |
| charl | ah all spam ? | 18:52 |
| Kilos | wow you a popular guy inetpro so many emails! whew | 18:53 |
| inetpro | a bug was introduced on the web server | 18:53 |
| inetpro | the MTA just marked them all as frozen | 18:53 |
| superfly | charl: I don't know how I'd manage 2TB a month | 18:53 |
| charl | nah i'm just worried about ddoses | 18:54 |
| charl | where i work we have them almost every week now | 18:54 |
| charl | once hit 40gbps incoming | 18:54 |
| charl | which is our internet capacity btw | 18:54 |
| superfly | charl: well I suppose it depends on (a) what you use it for and (b) how much you cheese people off | 18:54 |
| charl | nah i don't like to take unnecessary risks | 18:55 |
| charl | these kids with the booters are having a ball at other people's expense | 18:55 |
| smile | "smile: do you happen to have any recommendations for vps providers in europe? i'm growing a little dissatisfied with hetzner" -> no :P no experience :) | 18:55 |
| smile | good night! :p | 18:55 |
| charl | night smile :) | 18:55 |
| Kilos | night smile sleep tight | 18:56 |
| inetpro | good night smile | 18:56 |
| smile | thanks guys :) | 18:57 |
| alphaG | good evenings | 19:28 |
| Kilos | hi alphaG | 19:29 |
| alphaG | kilos howzit | 19:29 |
| Kilos | welcome to ubintu-za | 19:29 |
| Kilos | who are you hehe | 19:29 |
| Kilos | ubuntu-za as well | 19:29 |
| alphaG | all this time trying to get back here. looking for n app | 19:29 |
| Kilos | what app? | 19:30 |
| alphaG | web browser works fine then :D | 19:30 |
| alphaG | irc app for blackberry. | 19:30 |
| Kilos | eish | 19:30 |
| superfly | I'm sure there are some.... somewhere.... | 19:31 |
| alphaG | I have. a question I finally got to install wubuntu | 19:31 |
| Kilos | ya there have been peeps here on their blackberries | 19:31 |
| alphaG | they suck superfly I'm chattn via browser now web application. | 19:31 |
| Kilos | Maaz, google irr for blackberry | 19:32 |
| Maaz | Kilos: "Coller Capital IRR Calculator - BlackBerry World" http://appworld.blackberry.com/webstore/content/55311?lang=en :: "NPV/IRR | NPV/IRR Android App | NPV/IRR BlackBerry App | NPV ..." https://businesscompassllc.com/NPV/IRR :: "irr calculator free download - Softonic" http://en.softonic.com/s/irr-calculator :: "Laura Marling "Blackberry Stone" IRR Acoustic | 19:32 |
| Maaz | Sessions - YouTube" http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zdA81MVEQp8 :: "XE: (IRR/EUR) Iranian Ria… | 19:32 |
| Kilos | ai! | 19:32 |
| alphaG | anyhow back to my question. back in the day I installed compiz on wubuntu install. and loved it. | 19:32 |
| Kilos | Maaz, google irc app for blackberry | 19:32 |
| Maaz | Kilos: "AndroIRC - BlackBerry World" http://appworld.blackberry.com/webstore/content/86078/?lang=EN :: "jmIrc - Java mobile IRC-client (J2ME)" http://jmirc.sourceforge.net/ :: "The Virca IRC MIDlet! - VidarHolen.net" http://www.vidarholen.net/contents/virca/ :: "BlackBerry 10 IRC Client - Wishful Coding" http://pepijndevos.nl/2013/08/17/blackberry-10-irc- | 19:32 |
| Maaz | client.html :: "Free AndroIRC IRC Client Ported to the BlackBerry PlayBook ..." http://www.berryrev… | 19:32 |
| alphaG | is it possible to Install compiz offline on 12.04 | 19:33 |
| Kilos | if you have the package and dependancies yes | 19:33 |
| alphaG | and I can get that at ubuntu.packages? | 19:34 |
| Kilos | do you want to download the packages on another pc ? | 19:35 |
| alphaG | last time I got compiz effects I was usi g gnome.. | 19:35 |
| alphaG | I don't have internet access right now.. only monday again. but if I can somehow download packages via blackberry that would be awesome. | 19:36 |
| Kilos | ive never tried getting individual packages from the repos | 19:37 |
| Kilos | superfly, can you advise please | 19:37 |
| superfly | as far as I know, compiz is part of Unity | 19:38 |
| superfly | all you should need to do is enable the fancy effects | 19:38 |
| superfly | how you do that in Ubuntu I don't know, perhaps you need one of those tweak tools? | 19:38 |
| alphaG | u have mailed me a method on how to do this a while back. if can remember | 19:38 |
| Kilos | unity-tweak | 19:38 |
| Kilos | unity-tweak-tool | 19:39 |
| alphaG | I'm new to unity ..very new | 19:39 |
| Kilos | alphaG, who mailed you? | 19:39 |
| alphaG | u kilos | 19:40 |
| Kilos | then compiz is already installed | 19:40 |
| Kilos | you will need to get online and run 2 commands | 19:40 |
| Kilos | sudo apt-get update and sudo apt-get upgrade | 19:40 |
| alphaG | eish no online till monday.. boss | 19:41 |
| alphaG | only bb online. | 19:41 |
| Kilos | then it should all work and you use unity-tweak-tool to personalise things | 19:41 |
| Kilos | use the bb as a modem | 19:41 |
| Kilos | there must be a way to do that | 19:42 |
| alphaG | ok danke | 19:42 |
| alphaG | no then I need data | 19:42 |
| Kilos | have you got a data cable for it | 19:42 |
| Kilos | oh | 19:42 |
| alphaG | add on bundle | 19:42 |
| Kilos | can bb download stuff free? | 19:42 |
| alphaG | yeah I do unless some kind person here knows how to use BIS as modem | 19:43 |
| alphaG | via the browsers on the phone yes -kilos | 19:43 |
| Kilos | wow thats nice of them | 19:44 |
| Kilos | but you dont need to download compiz it should already be installed | 19:44 |
| alphaG | is jy verseker | 19:44 |
| Kilos | those 2 commands should give you a fully working system | 19:45 |
| alphaG | ok I'm going to check now. | 19:45 |
| Kilos | ek is nou hier op unity | 19:45 |
| Kilos | i didnt need to install unity later | 19:45 |
| Kilos | not unity sorry compiz | 19:47 |
| alphaG | but u probablly updated everything anyway righg? | 19:48 |
| alphaG | kilos u on whatsapp? | 19:49 |
| Kilos | no i cant get whatapp on pc and cell too old | 19:50 |
| Kilos | yes ubuntu installs the system and update/upgrade sorts all things that didnt work right on the basic install and adds new security upgrades etc | 19:51 |
| superfly | Telegram! | 19:51 |
| alphaG | telegrams on my android only | 19:52 |
| Kilos | does telegram work on pc superfly ? | 19:52 |
| superfly | tdesktop.org | 19:52 |
| alphaG | can't find tweak here | 19:54 |
| Kilos | haha i click that link and it goes to https://tdesktop.com/ | 19:54 |
| Kilos | you have to install unity-tweak-tool once updated | 19:54 |
| Kilos | do you have synaptic installed? | 19:55 |
| alphaG | ai install install | 19:55 |
| alphaG | nothing installed just 12.04 alongside vista | 19:55 |
| alphaG | cudnt boot so I changed bios settn | 19:55 |
| alphaG | I had to leave pc lab before I could run an update | 19:56 |
| Kilos | ai! | 19:56 |
| alphaG | yeah... | 19:56 |
| alphaG | ai ya yai. | 19:56 |
| Kilos | wait unity tweak tool is for 14.04 i didnt register you are on 12.04 | 19:57 |
| Kilos | update/upgrade then try 12.04 you often need nothing more other than your own programs you like | 19:57 |
| alphaG | yeah I need to update to 14.04 | 19:57 |
| Kilos | 12.04 is good too but near life end i think | 19:58 |
| alphaG | what's betyer updAte or download iso | 19:58 |
| alphaG | expire 2017 I think | 19:58 |
| Kilos | mixed opinions there | 19:58 |
| alphaG | last time u told me to get a friend to download and I did. | 19:58 |
| Kilos | i prefer iso download and new install. fly always upgrades and he is the clever one | 19:59 |
| alphaG | I only got around to installing it now | 19:59 |
| Kilos | whew ive forgotten that | 19:59 |
| alphaG | yes its a long time I know. | 19:59 |
| alphaG | but getting there none the less | 20:00 |
| Kilos | if you have 12.04 going then run it when you can go online and update , you might like to stay there till it expires, i found 14.04 more work | 20:00 |
| alphaG | I've read somewhere about super OS | 20:00 |
| alphaG | ubuntu with added drivers etc all in one aimed at offline peeps | 20:01 |
| alphaG | I have net access at lab so its just a matter of time. | 20:02 |
| Kilos | i dont know it | 20:02 |
| alphaG | once imsorted I will chat via ubuntu and let u know. | 20:02 |
| Kilos | cool | 20:03 |
| alphaG | 12.04 std instal is not bad tho. for nw jusy sucks having no wifi... with so much potential . like sitting in a custom car with no gas just chilling in the garage. | 20:04 |
| Kilos | im happy with unity and more so with kubuntu, just its a bit heavier | 20:04 |
| Kilos | lol | 20:04 |
| alphaG | chat soon hopefully goodnight | 20:05 |
| Kilos | but once updated you will only need to install your chat clients and email client etc | 20:05 |
| Kilos | the rest should work | 20:05 |
| Kilos | cheers alphaG | 20:05 |
| alphaG | does pidgeon still exist | 20:05 |
| Kilos | yes i use it | 20:06 |
| Kilos | pidgin | 20:06 |
| alphaG | loved that lil app | 20:06 |
| alphaG | cheers | 20:06 |
| Kilos | for mxit,msn aim and everything else | 20:06 |
| Kilos | chow now | 20:06 |
| Kilos | wbb | 20:50 |
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