[00:00] <user42381> (sorry bout the duplicate.... seemed not to be working for a moment...
[00:01] <cyclob|work> hi guys really need some help on getting a script working in 14.04
[00:02] <pooltable> help installed java and flash
[00:02] <expunge> pooltable: oh my, that is troubling
[00:02] <pooltable> yes
[00:02] <user42381> the pulseaudio volume control is only showing the dummy output device.
[00:02] <cyclob|work> https://gist.github.com/anonymous/53fab7bc6140d175fc4c < here is the script when i try to run it i get an error [Java framework] Error in function createSettingsDocument (elements.cxx).
[00:02] <cyclob|work> javaldx failed!
[00:03] <user42381> where can I add audio devices?
[00:03] <cyclob|work> i've tried both java6 and java7
[00:09] <ryan_46> slb: You ask a good and important question. I don't know the answer. I think I read once that pointing it at the Windows efi boot partition would overwrite it and destroy Windows boot.partition. Haven't read any how to examples that said point it to efi boot partition specifically. Some have said make a specific efi partition yourself. Most seem to use /sda and end up using boot repair or BCDedit or some such. But I really want to know the
[00:10] <Eric^^> i was trying it on a VM, i got mixed answers from google.
[00:10] <Eric^^> unfortunately it stalled after the installation/
[00:10] <Eric^^> (slb & ryan_46)
[00:11] <slb> yes Eric^^ ?
[00:11] <Eric^^> did you install?
[00:12] <expunge> Eric^^: what vm?
[00:12] <cyclob|work> hmm okay.. i get a "Warning: failed to read path from javaldx" error when trying to run headless libreoffice any ideas on what's causing that?
[00:12] <Eric^^> expunge: virtualbox, usually it never hangs but it seemed to consume alot of cpu and act up cause i set it in efi mode
[00:13] <expunge> mmm
[00:13] <Eric^^> the installation went alot quicker, would explain the cpu usage i guess
[00:16] <slb> Eric^^, you tried it both ways in the VM?
[00:17] <Eric^^> slb: i'm trying to install it to /dev/sda1 (efi partition) now,
[00:17] <pooltable> help installed java and flash
[00:17] <cyclob|work> is there a way to install 32bit java?
[00:17] <pooltable> 32
[00:18] <qtrain> having problems with nodejs and 13.10  can anyone assist? http://stackoverflow.com/questions/25170723/error-with-nodejs-and-express
[00:18] <Beldar> qtrain, 13.10 is eol.
[00:19] <qtrain> i know but some of the stuff I use wont work on 14.04.. can i not ask questions about old distro?
[00:19] <Beldar> cyclob|work, I believe so let me know when you figure it out I need that to.
[00:20] <cfhowlett> qtrain, you can ask about supported distros.
[00:21] <Beldar> qtrain, 12.04 is supported for another 3 years.
[00:21] <cyclob|work> Beldar: do you need 32bit java specifically or just java?
[00:21] <Beldar> cyclob|work, 32 bit
[00:21] <Beldar> on 64 bit os
[00:22] <Beldar> cyclob|work, I saw indicators ou can on a 64 bit, just the correct install is all I believe
[00:23] <Beldar> you*
[00:23] <cyclob|work> yeah should be easy only the 32bit version isn't in the repos so have to manually install it
[00:24] <Beldar> cyclob|work, I saw web pages with all the commands just need the correct release is all when I looked, Ijust was not in a real hurry is all.
[00:25] <user42381> I'm having trouble finding system, preferences, sound.  anyone know where it might be?
[00:26] <MoundBob> is there a channel for people new to linux?
[00:26] <ObrienDave> you're in it
[00:31] <expunge> MoundBob: this is certainly one
[00:31] <MoundBob> ok just checking
[00:31] <Beldar> the newbs abound here
[00:32] <cyclob|work> finally got libreoffice to work now my damn script fails.. its just one thing after another with 14.04
[00:33] <Scunizi> Scribus users. I have a text frame line spacing question but would prefer to take it to #Scribus123.  Hope to see you there.
[00:36] <pooltable> We are unable to verify if Java is currently installed and enabled in your browser. help
[00:36] <gartral> soooo... I have an interesting question.. say I have an SSHD that needs a driver to operate... can I somehow force it to use a portion of, or all of the "SSD" part of the disk as swap?
[00:38] <slb> gartral, i've heard that you will kill an SSD by putting a swap on it. SSDs apparently don't need a swap partition
[00:38] <gartral> (note, I mean Solid State Hybrid Drive, not Secure SHell Daemon)
[00:39] <gartral> slb: I.. really don't care.. I have a computer with maxed out ram... need more memory... swap on magnetic disks is paaaaainfully slooooow
[00:40] <slb> gartral, up to you
[00:40] <gartral> slb: but it is possible to do what I want, yes?
[00:40] <Scunizi> pooltable: some parts of java on google chrome have been removed by google (linux only until later this year then everywhere else). If you're having an issue with a site try it with Firefox
[00:40] <slb> gartral, theoretically i suppose so, but i have never done it
[00:41] <Eric^^> gartral: it seems it adds more wear and tear
[00:41] <slb> when asked for device for boot loader installation, should i specify the actual EFI partition that computer came with (e.g., /dev/sda2) or just the hard drive (/dev/sda)?
[00:41] <slb> asking again
[00:41] <Beldar> slb, The modern SSD has a same life as a spinning.
[00:44] <Beldar> pooltable, java -version  in the cli
[00:44] <slb> why won't usb live 14.04 let me create an ntfs partition??
[00:44] <pooltable> java version "1.7.0_55"
[00:44] <pooltable> OpenJDK Runtime Environment (IcedTea 2.4.7) (7u55-2.4.7-1ubuntu1~0.12.04.2)
[00:44] <pooltable> OpenJDK Server VM (build 24.51-b03, mixed mode)
[00:44] <Beldar> slb, gparted will.
[00:45] <pooltable> but brower still not working
[00:45] <gartral> slb: it... depends.. is this a UEFI 1.1 or 2.0 system?
[00:45] <Beldar> slb, yo9u can't install ubuntu to it is all, what is the end goal?
[00:45] <Eric^^> slb: the vm hanged at the end again, though while installing i saw it say "running grub-install /dev/sda1"
[00:45] <Eric^^> slb: when installing grub the command is grub-install /dev/sda .. so i dont know
[00:45] <Eric^^> slb: for what it
[00:46] <slb> gartral, its a UEFI, not sure which one
[00:46] <slb> Eric^^, thanks for checking
[00:46] <Eric^^> *it's worth when i installed ubuntu i didnt change anything that had to do with the bootloader installation
[00:46] <slb> Beldar, ??
[00:46] <Beldar> pooltable, Go to addons-plugins make sure it's on.
[00:46] <Eric^^> (running efi too here)
[00:47] <slb> Eric^^, i went one step back and then "something else" to manual partitioning step a couple of times, and it defaults to /dev/sda
[00:47] <slb> so that's what i'm going with
[00:47] <Beldar> slb, You are not really saying why you need a ntfs question marks mean nothing, we can't read you mind.
[00:47] <slb> ok, got your question now
[00:48] <pooltable> IcedTea-Web Plugin (using IcedTea-Web 1.2.3 (1.2.3-0ubuntu0.12.04.4)) in firefox
[00:48] <Beldar> pooltable, As well not working is not enough details, some on site java needs have to be the latest version too
[00:48] <pooltable> now get to work on chrome
[00:49] <pooltable> how to ?
[00:49] <Beldar> pooltable, How to what, be detailed.
[00:49] <gartral> slb by default ubuntu sets up a UEFI/MBR booting system, easier to do, but slower to boot... a UEFI/GPT system boots very fast, but is a headache to setup, and becomes a royal pain if you dual-boot
[00:50] <Beldar> never seen any slower boot info
[00:50] <pooltable> beldar want java to work
[00:50] <Beldar> pooltable, yes that is obvious.
[00:50] <pooltable> please help set by step i will uninstall it to get it to work
[00:51] <bmhatfield> Any advice on the right place to track when we'll se packages/ a USN for https://www.openssl.org/news/secadv_20140806.txt
[00:51] <bmhatfield> ?
[00:51] <pooltable> beldar only thing i always for get with new install of ubuntu
[00:52] <Beldar> bmhatfield, Heh how would we know.
[00:53] <bmhatfield> Beldar: Because a USN is an "Ubuntu Security Notice"?
[00:53] <pooltable> beldar java version "1.7.0_55" is what i have is it up yo date?
[00:53] <cfhowlett> bmhatfield, ask in #linux
[00:53] <gartral> i'll be back later
[00:53] <bmhatfield> I'm looking for an updated Ubuntu OpenSSL package.
[00:53] <Beldar> bmhatfield, tis is support no connection to canonical or development
[00:53] <bmhatfield> http://www.ubuntu.com/usn/
[00:53] <cfhowlett> bmhatfield, what's in the repos is what's available
[00:54] <bmhatfield> Of course.
[00:54] <bmhatfield> Just looking to figure out my course of action given that the needed version is *not* in the repo.
[00:54] <bmhatfield> Presumably it will appear there at some point.
[00:54] <Beldar> might be fixed the heartbleed ting was fixed with no package name change, confused many
[00:55] <Beldar> thing*
[00:55] <cfhowlett> bmhatfield, ask the #security team/channel?
[00:55] <bmhatfield> It had a version number bump though :-)
[00:55] <Beldar> still many were confused
[00:55] <cfhowlett> *are* confused
[00:56] <Beldar> that is an assumption we saw were until understanding. ;)
[00:57] <Beldar> post is were are is present
[01:01] <cfhowlett> *past* is were ... ftfy
[01:03] <Beldar> post and past are basically the same context is the difference maybe
[01:04] <Beldar> english is funny with multiple meanings for words
[01:05] <jim1> hello,why my log file is 10 gigs of space?ty
[01:05] <keith2> if i want to use truecrypt to encrypt a partition, then during installation of 14.04, when partitioning, i assume i would just create a partition, but not have it mounted, since truecrypt would mount it when i needed it visible, right?
[01:05] <expunge> jim1: it's either old or verbose or both
[01:05] <Beldar> jim1, lots of errors, never cleaned, you guess
[01:05] <jim1> i have bleachbitd installed
[01:05] <jim1> i do everyday scans of cleaning up garbage
[01:05] <expunge> keith2: sounds good
[01:06] <Beldar> jim1, look through, heh.
[01:06] <jim1> i must delete some stuff then
[01:06] <keith2> expunge, all i need to do is note the partition number and tell Truecrypt to encrypt it later
[01:06] <keith2> right?
[01:06] <expunge> keith2: yarp
[01:07] <expunge> keith2: though the number will be easily discerned later
[01:07] <expunge> mostly you need only leave space for it
[01:07] <expunge> if you want it on a separate partition
[01:07] <jim1> me>?
[01:07] <keith2> expunge, i have some particular size requirements, and dual boot, so have to make sure it is "reserved"
[01:08] <expunge> keith2: right, leave space for it =)
[01:08] <VRMac> I'm trying to build siklon's cpuminer, and I'm running into syntax errors in automake that I haven't had on my other systems. I have all dependencies and compilers installed.
[01:08] <Beldar> jim1, We generally preface with nicks when addressing another, you have yet to.
[01:09] <keith2> bizarrely, i will have 9 partitions
[01:10] <expunge> that is bizarre
[01:11] <keith2> one windows recovery, one windows efi, one mystery windows (sager?), windows OS, windows data, /, /home, truecrypt one, swap
[01:11] <Beldar> that is a normal uefi OEM
[01:11] <keith2> beldar which is a normal uefi oem
[01:11] <Beldar> with ubuntu split into 3 partitions anda efi
[01:12] <Beldar> it's gpt no biggie
[01:12] <keith2> beldar what could the 100 mb mystery one be that linux install can't identify file system
[01:12] <keith2> Beldar, gpt?
[01:13] <Beldar> keith2, Probably a firmware of more likely the uefi boot, no idea here, other than I have consistently seen 6 partitions in windows uefi installs
[01:13] <keith2> the ones i created were windows data, /, /home, truecrypt one, swap
[01:14] <Beldar> probably why it's gpt for one reason
[01:14] <keith2> Beldar, there was one efi fs one
[01:14] <keith2> what the heck is gpt?
[01:14] <Beldar> keith2, Partitioning typology.
[01:14] <keith2> ah, thanks
[01:14] <Beldar> !gpt
[01:15] <Beldar> bot does not know lol
[01:15] <Beldar> keith2, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GUID_Partition_Table  Enjoy
[01:15] <chriys> hey guys what do you advise as ftp server on a vps
[01:17] <expunge> well it's probably for efi, not gpt; if you really care pastebin your info
[01:17] <expunge> chriys: openssh-server
[01:17] <keith2> expunge, in middle of install
[01:17] <chriys> expunge: it is better than proFtp or VsFtp ?
[01:17] <chriys> I have Ubuntu 12.04 on that server
[01:17] <keith2> expunge, and i don't really care that much, just curious
[01:17] <Beldar> keith2, Did you image/clone windows?
[01:18] <expunge> =)
[01:18] <expunge> chriys: it's secure
[01:19] <keith2> Beldar, no, brand new, nothing on it and i have recovery disc
[01:19] <pooltable> help install Java SE 8u11
[01:20] <Beldar> keith2, Your an acccident waiting to happen, all the recovery disc does is trigger what is there, you better hope what you need is still there.
[01:20] <keith2> ok, install done! now at boot menu, my boot option 1 is ubuntu, which i take to mean as success. there's still a Windows Boot Manager boot option . i guess i just move it down.
[01:20] <keith2> Beldar, your confidence in me is noted :)
[01:21] <Beldar> keith2, Not a confidence issue but being prepared for any contingency. You are sailing without a all weather wet suit
[01:22] <keith2> i actually have been using linux since redhat in 2002 or so (before fedora came about), been through fedora, mandrake, mandriva, ...
[01:22] <Beldar> hard to tell honestly
[01:22] <keith2> just haven't had to mess with an EFI before, and that was the caution part
[01:22] <chriys> expunge: do you a good link for installation?
[01:23] <chriys> by the same occasion if you have an idea for an mail server that will be cool
[01:23] <pooltable> help install Java SE 8u11.
[01:25] <keith2> Beldar, maybe a little risk is fun sometimes
[01:26] <yahya> I've got a problem with writing persian in ubuntu, the problem is  when I try to write mixed persian and english text files in gedit or vim the lines starting with  persian characters start from right direction of the screen  how can i change ubuntu so it just starts lines  form left?
[01:28] <expunge> yahya: isn't it a right to left language?
[01:28] <yahya> yes it is
[01:29] <help-audio-bt> pavucontrol gives the following error when run:  (pavucontrol:2471): Gtk-CRITICAL **: gtk_main_quit: assertion `main_loops != NULL' failed
[01:29] <help-audio-bt> Home directory /home/eric not ours.
[01:29] <Beldar> keith2, Don't come here and expect any empathy for your risk. ;)
[01:29] <Beldar> if it blows up
[01:30] <help-audio-bt> how can I fix that so it will run.
[01:30] <expunge> yahya: so you have to move your eyes all the way to the right regardless, no?
[01:30] <keith2> Beldar, ha, its working so far, at least ubuntu part
[01:31] <yahya> yes i want it to start from left so i can follow the lines easily
[01:32] <Guest94463>  hello im trying to change my os from xubuntu 12.04 to ubuntu 14.04.1 via clean install. i alredy do the md5 sum and hash match and everything. its for windows install. 64bit. it is really annoying. i don’t know what to do any more. can i get some help maby?
[01:33] <Beldar> keith2, you claimed to know efi than you should know gpt, you know all that proclaimed experience and all. Honestly I would not touch you with a ten foot pole, no backups and just not thinking complacency, it will bite you in the booty sooner or later if it has not and you did not already learn. ;)
[01:33] <ans4175> join #bandung
[01:33] <expunge> Guest94463: windows install?
[01:34] <Guest94463> like the install is for users that have windows that want to change to ubuntu
[01:34] <Guest94463> the iso
[01:34] <expunge> Guest94463: do you have unpartitioned disk space to install Ubuntu to?
[01:35] <keith2> i didn't say anything re efi, except that i was doing an install on an efi machine for the 1st time. it was a brand new machine with nothing on windows. hard day?
[01:35] <Guest94463> more than likely. not many scripts
[01:35] <chriys> expunge: do you have a reference for an mail server ?
[01:35] <Guest94463> way more than likely
[01:35] <expunge> Guest94463: so you know what a partition is?
[01:35] <Guest94463> no
[01:35] <expunge> chriys: I don't get into that much, the default is probably fine for most, otherwise ask #ubuntu-server
[01:36] <expunge> Guest94463: okay
[01:36] <chriys> ok ok
[01:36] <expunge> Guest94463: there is an installer that installs Ubuntu into a file on a Windows system, but
[01:36] <keith2> expunge, know why my new install won't show me additional drivers, installed nvidia-common and still nothing
[01:36] <expunge> Guest94463: it has a bad reputation that it has earned
[01:36] <keith2> yes, don't do it
[01:36] <expunge> Guest94463: it's far better to create free partition space to install Ubuntu to, but it's more involved
[01:36] <chriys> I forgot to tell thanks later, for your advise for openssh-server
[01:36] <expunge> keith2: you got a nvidia card?
[01:37] <keith2> expunge, what about the "install along windows option" for Guest94463
[01:37] <chriys> expunge: I forgot to tell thanks later, for your advise for openssh-server
[01:37] <keith2> expunge, yes Geforce GTX 860 I think
[01:37] <NowWeAreTwo> I was able to install ubuntu onto a spare drive.. I dont remember how I did it tho :/
[01:37] <Guest94463> i dont like the sound of that. the only reason i want to install ubuntu is beacuse i likke unix
[01:37] <expunge> NowWeAreTwo: gj
[01:37] <keith2> expunge, yes Geforce GTX 86M
[01:37] <kidx> hello
[01:37] <NowWeAreTwo> lol
[01:37] <keith2> expunge, yes Geforce GTX 860M
[01:38] <keith2> there wego
[01:38] <expunge> Guest94463: okay, well you can try wubi if you want, just be warned =)
[01:38] <kidx> I am looking for ubuntu studio help
[01:38] <expunge> Guest94463: if you mount the install image, it will show a .exe you can run
[01:38] <kidx>  wanna broadcast to my yes streaming server.
[01:38] <Guest94463> i have wubi and it dosnt work
[01:38] <expunge> Guest94463: what happens?
[01:38] <kidx> any one have a tutorial on how to?
[01:38] <nick234_> quadHelix:
[01:38] <expunge> kidx: do what now?
[01:39] <keith2> Guest94463, i would boot from usb live disk and just choose the install alongside windows option, but others may differ
[01:39] <expunge> keith2: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia
[01:39] <kidx> broadcast to my icecast server hosted by yes streaming
[01:39] <Guest94463> well i need the best option
[01:39] <LapJup> off topic but --> "‘Staggering’ data breach of 1.2B usernames and passwords could worsen:" The stolen credentials include 1.2 billion password and username combinations and more than 500 million email addresses, http://www.foxnews.com/tech/2014/08/06/staggering-data-breach-could-worsen-expert/
[01:39] <expunge> Guest94463: that probably is the best, if you want to keep windows
[01:39] <Guest94463> i have xubuntu
[01:40] <expunge> but resizing partitions, while quite safe, is not 100% safe
[01:40] <expunge> Guest94463: you have?
[01:40] <Guest94463> 12.04
[01:40] <expunge> Guest94463: how many more do you need?
[01:40] <Guest94463> what? no i only run xubuntu
[01:40] <expunge> LapJup: I'm sure about 1.1B of those are already in rainbow tables
[01:40] <expunge> Guest94463: so... what did you want help with, again?
[01:41] <Guest94463> update, clean install ubuntu 14.04.1
[01:42] <keith2> success! with due caution (except not cloning windows, apologies to Beldar ) successfully installed 14.04 on EFI Win 8.1 machine, and both windows and ubuntu boot beautifully
[01:43] <expunge> Guest94463: clean install? You just boot the install media, and tell it to install
[01:43] <keith2> Guest94463, easy, boot live usb, install ubuntu 14.04 over xubuntu
[01:44] <expunge> keith2: gj
[01:44] <Guest94463> idk how i guess
[01:44] <Guest94463> i dont know how to do it correctly
[01:44] <keith2> make a live usb for 14.04, boot with it, follow prompts, tell it to install ubuntu where xubuntu now is
[01:45] <pooltable> java plug in not working help i have installed
[01:45] <expunge> Guest94463: as long as you don't say "hey installer, please overwrite my windows partitions", you will be fine
[01:45] <daftykins> pooltable: which browser?
[01:45] <pooltable> all three firefox chrome and opera
[01:45] <fajar_kasimbar1> REGISTER password 09huiI
[01:45] <Guest94463> dont know what that is, but okay
[01:45] <daftykins> pooltable: chrome won't work.
[01:46] <Beldar> !register | fajar_kasimbar1
[01:46] <keith2> expunge, how would i know which of those many nvidia packages apply to my card?
[01:46] <pooltable> java version "1.7.0_55"
[01:46] <Beldar> Guest94463, So why you not using the nicks we love you by?
[01:46] <pooltable> how to get chrome to work ?
[01:47] <Guest94463> ?
[01:47] <daftykins> pooltable: you can't, chrome does not work with java plugins anymore.
[01:47] <daftykins> pooltable: focus on firefox only - http://askubuntu.com/questions/354361/how-to-install-java-plugin-in-firefox
[01:47] <expunge> fajar_kasimbar1: should probably not use that password any longer =)
[01:47] <Beldar> Guest94463, You have the same IP of a nick thats been here over the last couple of days.
[01:47] <Guest94463> aha
[01:47] <Beldar> cough zw
[01:48] <NowWeAreTwo> expunge:  lol, I was thinking that... dont feel too bad fajar_kasimbar1 I did that once.. not on such a populated irc chan tho.
[01:48] <expunge> outing someone for no particular reason is incredibly bad etiquette
[01:48] <pooltable> i like chrome
[01:48] <Beldar> hiding your nick is not much better
[01:48] <LapJup> expunge: what's a rainbow table?
[01:48] <expunge> as long as we agree what you just did was quite bad
[01:49] <expunge> LapJup: wikipedia knows =)
[01:49] <Beldar> sorry I disagree this user has bee nothing but trouble
[01:49] <NowWeAreTwo> LapJup: http://media-cache-ec0.pinimg.com/736x/5e/f0/4e/5ef04e041d2f6f06b10841ad7a62fdef.jpg
[01:49] <expunge> is he being trouble right now?
[01:49] <Beldar> using wubi when told the down low yes
[01:49] <expunge> NowWeAreTwo: ha
[01:49] <expunge> Beldar: right...
[01:50] <Guest94463> oops sorry i got caught up in somthing im back now
[01:50] <Beldar> overusing the channel due to just not thinking yes
[01:51] <keith2> yes, must be punished i tell you!
[01:51] <keith2> lol
[01:52] <expunge> I really don't care what he might have done, ever
[01:52] <Guest94463> so i tryed to do the install through boot menu and...boot error is what it said
[01:52] <expunge> you do not out people who have not already volunteered their identity
[01:52] <pooltable> ok now opera
[01:52] <Jkup> hello all simple bash question here, if i need to create a program that identifies a 1 of 2 files by searching for a string in the directory, what would be the best way to do this, and than open the file that it found and dump contents into seperate file?
[01:52] <expunge> it is abhorrent, immoral
[01:52]  * expunge moves on
[01:53] <expunge> Jkup: it might be more than one file?
[01:53] <Beldar> Jkup, #bash maybe
[01:53] <pooltable> ok opera works
[01:53] <pooltable> now chrome
[01:53] <Jkup> I asked bash, no repsonse, sorry
[01:53] <Guest94463> it is not like im spaming the channel
[01:54] <keith2> Guest94463, no worries from my end
[01:54] <Guest94463> okay good thank you
[01:54] <keith2> ask away
[01:54] <keith2> my previous advice stands
[01:54] <Beldar> Jkup, what does lsb_release -a  say?
[01:55] <keith2> make a live usb for 14.04, boot with it, follow prompts, tell it to install ubuntu where xubuntu now is
[01:55] <pooltable> why is chrome not support java any more or ubuntu ???
[01:55] <Jkup> and also,file 1 contains the string adult, file 2 does not, i set up a grep command to search for string adult than save it to a variable but it doesnt save just the file name, it  saves the entire answer
[01:55] <expunge> pooltable: I'm sure you could make it, but it might be involved
[01:55] <expunge> pooltable: the web in general is going away from java
[01:55] <expunge> pooltable: everything is
[01:55] <expunge> it's an insecure, childish, poorly maintained paradigm
[01:55] <expunge> Jkup: use grep -l
[01:56] <Jkup> YES!
[01:56] <SchrodingersScat> Jkup: http://mywiki.wooledge.org/BashFAQ/
[01:56] <Jkup> thank you so much, such a simple answer i need to do more research lol thank you
[01:56] <expunge> Jkup: also there are a number of ways you can parse grep's ordinary output, but -l is handy in this case
[01:56] <Jkup> now to dump it into a seperate file lol, thanks
[01:56] <pooltable> expunge or any way around it for chorme or will it by pass it ?
[01:57] <expunge> Jkup: sep-a-rate
[01:58] <expunge> Jkup: a very unreliable way to do this would be: cp -n $(grep -l foo file1 file2) bar
[01:58] <daftykins> pooltable: chrome has broken support for the NPAPI, you will not get java plugins working anymore, so don't waste your time trying.
[01:58] <expunge> pooltable: I would imagine there is a way, but I don't know it and have no motivation to find it
[01:59] <daftykins> expunge: no, there isn't a way
[01:59] <samthewildone> how do I turn off screen saver ?
[01:59] <expunge> daftykins: I would imagine there is
[01:59] <expunge> samthewildone: why?
[01:59] <daftykins> expunge: no, they broke the NPAPI - it's game over
[01:59] <samthewildone> im trying to watch a fucking movie
[01:59] <expunge> daftykins: I would imagine there is
[01:59] <pooltable> daetykins i see thanks i just read that will they chrome ubuntu fix this soon or a way around this?
[01:59] <Jkup> newb question warning, is foo actually a command or just a quirky programmer thing?
[01:59] <expunge> samthewildone: in what application?
[01:59] <samthewildone> the screen keeps going dark
[01:59] <samthewildone> vlc
[02:00] <expunge> Jkup: it's the universal first placeholder
[02:00] <daftykins> expunge: ok but don't mislead users with your stubborn opinion
[02:00] <expunge> Jkup: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foobar
[02:00] <expunge> daftykins: never do
[02:01] <Beldar> for no particular reason is incredibly bad etiquette
[02:01] <Jkup> i c
[02:01] <expunge> samthewildone: I know how to do it with mplayer, you might ask #vlc about VLC
[02:02] <SchrodingersScat> samthewildone: tools > preferences > Show Settings > all > Video > Disable Screensaver
[02:02] <Dragin> Can someone please help me with the "make command? This is what I type, and the output I get... make rscw.c make make: Nothing to be done for `rscw.c'.
[02:02] <Dragin> make: *** No rule to make target `make'.  Stop.
[02:03] <SchrodingersScat> samthewildone: otherwise settings on your buntu machine and type in 'screen saver' and check 'power' as well because maybe theres' something about the screen in there.
[02:03] <Beldar> Dragin, What is the app, and have you read the read me, and what can give in detail basically?
[02:03] <samthewildone> thanks I found it
[02:05] <SchrodingersScat> samthewildone: also there are tools for x like xautomation, where you can have it move the mouse for you, or press keys.  If you make a short loop of the mouse picking random coordinates then you could avoid that whole bee's nest.
[02:05] <Dragin> read the readme... It sends me to a web site that doesn't go into how to install it. I am guessing that it assumes I already know how. The file I am trying to compile is called rscw.c (It makes my computer talk to my radio to decode Morse Code)
[02:05] <expunge> well, you can just send xscreensaver-command -deactivate at that point
[02:05] <keith2> expunge, Beldar daftykins , anyone really, copying /home from backup drive to new machine, should i just copy the docs and the profile folders for the apps i use (thunderbird, firefox, j-pilot, etc.) or copy all of /home to new machine
[02:06] <expunge> keith2: you can copy all
[02:06] <expunge> keith2: use rsync -apv path/to/orig/ path/to/home/
[02:06] <expunge> keith2: actually -ap is faser, and running again with -apv will make you feel good
[02:07] <Scunizi> keith2: If you're doing a fresh install I suggest making a partion just for /home so on the next reinstall you don't have to mess with it. In the mean time copy everything in /hom
[02:07] <Dragin> here is the entire content of the ReadMe file.... See
[02:07] <Dragin>   http://www.cs.utwente.nl/~ptdeboer/ham/rscw/
[02:07] <Dragin> for more documentation.
[02:07] <keith2> Scunizi, did that
[02:07] <Scunizi> keith2: smart :)
[02:08] <SchrodingersScat> Dragin: so you entered the directory after using tar, and ran make?
[02:08] <Dragin> yes
[02:08] <Beldar> Dragin, Way beyond ubuntu support however this a tar and are you familiar with that?
[02:08] <aliteralmind> Newbie question: Do you have to create the nobody user, or is it already there?
[02:08] <aliteralmind> (django_test_venv)jeffy@originaldjangster:~/django_files/django_test$ sudo su nobody
[02:08] <aliteralmind> This account is currently not available.
[02:09] <Dragin> a little bit. I just used the archive manager to unzip it. That is as far as I have gotten though
[02:09] <expunge> aliteralmind: sudo su?
[02:09] <Beldar> Dragin, Not the correct way to unpack.
[02:09] <Beldar> !tar
[02:09] <expunge> aliteralmind: if you're copying this guide's commands verbatim, it sounds incomplete
[02:10] <Dragin> should I try the make as su?
[02:10] <Beldar> Dragin, ^^^^^^^^
[02:10] <Jkup> Deese is dumb
[02:10] <svetter> hi there, has anyone heard of any timeframe for updated openssl packages in ubuntu repos?
[02:10] <expunge> svetter: updated to what?
[02:10] <Scunizi> svetter: should already be done.. if you're referring to the issues the banks had recently
[02:10] <svetter> https://www.openssl.org/news/secadv_20140806.txt
[02:10] <svetter> today
[02:11] <Dragin> do I just type tar foo then to unpack it properly?
[02:11] <Beldar> svetter, This a weakness based issue and you were here earlier with another nick?
[02:11] <svetter> what?
[02:11] <svetter> no, i always had that nick :)
[02:11] <Beldar> svetter, Someone was here earlier asking about this just wondering.
[02:11] <svetter> i wouldn't ask twice
[02:11] <Beldar> heh some do just checking
[02:12] <Dragin> !tar
[02:12] <expunge> svetter: look into the openssl fork
[02:12] <expunge> will probably be standard eventually
[02:13] <cyclob|work> what version of libreoffice does ubuntu 12.04 come with? 3.2?
[02:13] <ConnorTiberg> Can someone help me?
[02:13] <Jkup> expunge my new masterpiece somevar=$(grep -l '1232' *.txt )  cat $somevar > newfile.txt cat newfile.txt
[02:13] <expunge> cyclob|work: 3.5.4
[02:13] <aliteralmind> expunge: "su nobody", without "sudo", asks me for a password, but I never created the account, so I can't know what it is. This is a new Digital Ocean server.
[02:13] <SchrodingersScat> Dragin: tar xzf rscw-0.1a.tgz #will extract it
[02:13] <cyclob|work> thanks expunge
[02:13] <ConnorTiberg> hello?
[02:13] <expunge> or at least, that's what it can easily install
[02:13] <expunge> ConnorTiberg: hi
[02:13] <Beldar> ConnorTiberg, Probably, should we guess. ;)
[02:13] <expunge> aliteralmind: yeah I remember you
[02:14] <Scunizi> ConnorTiberg: don't say HI.. just ask a question :)
[02:14] <expunge> aliteralmind: you could create the account, but why does it want you to be "nobody"?
[02:14] <matty> Hello, Question I know Mint is an off shoot from Ubuntut, but does that mean that everything that works on ubuntu can work on Mint, and any installation steps using "apt-get" is the same?
[02:14] <ConnorTiberg> Well,I can use the terminal command"sudo apt-get install uodate"
[02:14] <ConnorTiberg> I can't
[02:15] <expunge> matty: yes
[02:15] <ConnorTiberg> I don't know why,always fail!
[02:15] <expunge> matty: excluding potentially the choicest repos, they probably have their own
[02:15] <aliteralmind> expunge: http://goo.gl/0Dw0ZQ, under step nine. It so the web server can be under user nobody, for security.
[02:15] <Beldar> ConnorTiberg, It's sudo apt-get update than sudo apt-get upgrade
[02:15] <Scunizi> ConnorTiberg: uodate isn't in the ubuntu repositories.. not sure what that is.
[02:15] <Dragin> Thanks SchrodingersScat
[02:15] <TJ-> ConnorTiberg: "sudo apt-get update" then "sudo apt-get upgrade"
[02:15] <matty> expunge: Thank you, and just to clarify if any website has ubuntu steps, its the exact same in MINT
[02:16] <expunge> aliteralmind: I don't see anything about sudo su nobody on this page
[02:16] <expunge> matty: mint is ubuntu
[02:16] <expunge> matty: they have their own repos I think
[02:16] <expunge> matty: and some small alterations
[02:16] <TJ-> matty: In theory, but not 100%. If packages and dependencies, or {pre,post}install scripts do different things, then things may be different
[02:16] <matty> expunge: Thank you again
[02:16] <aliteralmind> expunge: "sudo su" was just my mad newbie non-skills.
[02:16] <Beldar> +1
[02:16] <expunge> matty: most instructions for any debian based distro will be about 98% applicable to any other debian based distro
[02:17] <SchrodingersScat> Dragin: after that, make errored out on me because I don't have the deps installed, but it found the Makefile at least.
[02:17] <expunge> aliteralmind: so... what was the problem?
[02:17] <ConnorTiberg> But the terminal said can not download some file because verify HASH fail
[02:17] <aliteralmind> expunge: I'm referring to the config file in step nine: user="nobody"
[02:17] <matty> awesome thanks guys
[02:17] <expunge> aliteralmind: what about it?
[02:17] <TJ-> ConnorTiberg: Do you have the debugging symbols archive enabled?
[02:17] <NowWeAreTwo> My question. When running minecraft.jar and going full screen, I get a ghost image of my desktop. the game continues to run in the background but does not crash.  is this a java issue or  game issue or driver issue? how do I find out how to fix this?.. answer when evs...
[02:18] <ConnorTiberg> No,I'm a greenhand linux user and I use ubuntukylin
[02:18] <aliteralmind> expunge: When I attempt to start the gunicorn /django server, it's saying
[02:18] <Scunizi> aliteralmind: I don't think that means you need a "nobody" user.. it's just a way of limiting access or granting access I believe.
[02:18] <aliteralmind> "NameError: name 'nobody' is not defined"
[02:18] <TJ-> ConnorTiberg: which Ubuntu release and Linux kernel versions are you using ("cat /etc/issue" && uname -r") ?
[02:18] <expunge> NowWeAreTwo: ghost image?
[02:18] <expunge> aliteralmind: read the comments referring to 'nobody' on that page
[02:19] <aliteralmind> Scunizi: Precisely the reason is being used.
[02:19] <NowWeAreTwo> yeah, like a snapshot of whats whats behind the minecraft window.
[02:19] <expunge> NowWeAreTwo: it's see-through?
[02:19] <ConnorTiberg> Ubuntukylin 14.04LTS and the kernel version is 3.13.0-32.generic
[02:19] <NowWeAreTwo> damn you google. http://www.minecraftforum.net/forums/archive/legacy-support/1732247-fullscreen-in-ubuntu-issue
[02:19] <NowWeAreTwo> let me try that.
[02:20] <expunge> NowWeAreTwo: or http://linux.about.com/od/gmr_howto/a/hwtgmr05t01.htm
[02:20] <NowWeAreTwo> expunge:  not see thru..  it just doesnt render the minecraft screen... also my extended display goes dead when I try this.
[02:21] <Scunizi> aliteralmind: those are instructions if you don't want to run gunicorn as root.  personally if it's designed to run safer in a root environment then I would keep it that way.
[02:23] <TJ-> ConnorTiberg: Give us the URL that this reports "pastebinit < <(sudo apt-get update)"
[02:23] <aliteralmind> Scunizi: Well, I can do that since this is only for me showing off at interviews, not a production environment. If I can't figure this out, I'll leave it that way.
[02:24] <Scunizi> aliteralmind: good luck :) .. might be a question for the dejango channel or mail list
[02:25] <jhutchins> aliteralmind: look in /usr/share/docs/gunicorn/ for a README file and other documentation that explain how to set it up.
[02:26] <aliteralmind> expunge: Got it. To be honest, I never even noticed the comments. I needed to surround it with SINGLE quotes. So their instructions are wrong AGAIN.
[02:26] <aliteralmind> scunizi, jhutchins: Thanks for the help. I'l'l take a look at the gunicorn docs.
[02:26] <keith2_> expunge, that's odd, tested that with one folder and it copied files from the folder, but not the folder itself
[02:26] <keith2_> what's wrong with a simple cp -R
[02:27] <aliteralmind> expunge: By that I mean user='nobody'
[02:27] <aliteralmind> Instead of user=nobody
[02:27] <aliteralmind> expunge: Thanks again!!
[02:28] <expunge> keith2_: it's not resumable, and permissions come into play
[02:28] <expunge> keith2_: rsync foo/ bar/ copies files, rsync foo bar/ copies the entire folder
[02:28] <ConnorTiberg> Tj-:Stil online?
[02:28] <expunge> keith2_: it's subtle :/ =P
[02:29] <TJ-> ConnorTiberg: Yes, do you have the URL?
[02:29] <expunge> aliteralmind: =)
[02:29] <ConnorTiberg> No
[02:29] <keith2_> expunge, you had foo/ bar/ in earlier example, but thanks
[02:29] <expunge> aliteralmind: for every blog post, there are comments underneath explaining why the post is balls
[02:29] <ConnorTiberg> Give me the URL please:)
[02:29] <expunge> keith2_: yeah, orig/ home/
[02:29] <SchrodingersScat> keith2_: also a good idea to --dry-run the first try
[02:29] <expunge> I should've said oldhome/ newhome/
[02:30] <expunge> s'okay
[02:30] <expunge> if they're already copied you can just mv them now
[02:30] <TJ-> ConnorTiberg: No... you run the command I gave you, *it* writes the output to a pastebin and gives *you* the URL to give us, so we can see it :)
[02:30] <SchrodingersScat> keith2_: which with verbose on, should show you what it would do but doesn't actually change things
[02:31] <NowWeAreTwo> expunge:  noob here.. starting x is like starting ubuntu without the desktop manager? can I do this thru boot manager?
[02:31] <aliteralmind> expunge: This post is the ballsiest of ball-ish-ness. So many problems. I'm making a blog post out of it now. An annotated version of their instructions. Been banging my head with this for 24 hours now.
[02:31] <expunge> aliteralmind: =)
[02:31] <ConnorTiberg> cat /etc/issue and uname -r??
[02:31] <expunge> aliteralmind: I s'pose you're learning extra things, though, heh
[02:31] <Newbiee> hello
[02:32] <expunge> NowWeAreTwo: you can do it from a running X, actually
[02:32] <ConnorTiberg> hello newbiee
[02:32] <Newbiee> where can i find working source list? mine is not update well
[02:32] <Newbiee> im first time using ubuntu
[02:32] <aliteralmind> expunge: You'd think that an error they themselves corrected in the comments TEN MONTHS AGO, would be updated in the actual instructions...
[02:32] <NowWeAreTwo> expunge: okay, gonna try running it from a term then.. this is gonna be wierd.
[02:32] <TJ-> ConnorTiberg: Give us the URL that this reports "pastebinit < <(sudo apt-get update)"
[02:33] <expunge> NowWeAreTwo: yeah
[02:33] <aliteralmind> expunge: I could deal with learning a little bit less   ;)
[02:33] <expunge> NowWeAreTwo: if it works, you'll go to tty8, probably
[02:33] <expunge> NowWeAreTwo: so CTRL+ALT+F7 goes back to original desktop
[02:33] <expunge> and +F8 to new server
[02:33] <NowWeAreTwo> okay... interesting
[02:33] <expunge> aliteralmind: reliable people do not use blogs to transmit technical howtos =)
[02:33] <ConnorTiberg> Quite a lot URL
[02:34] <expunge> NowWeAreTwo: I use startx -- :1 -br for it, but I'm not sure I've ever done it with a DM running
[02:34] <expunge> NowWeAreTwo: yeah, works fine with a DM, too
[02:35] <expunge> although my CTRL+ALT+F# isn't working on here, had to use (sudo) chvt to get back =P
[02:35] <ConnorTiberg> W: 无法下载 bzip2:/var/lib/apt/lists/partial/extras.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_trusty_main_binary-i386_Packages  Hash 校验和不符
[02:35] <ConnorTiberg> W: 无法下载 bzip2:/var/lib/apt/lists/partial/cn.archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_trusty_universe_binary-i386_Packages  Hash 校验和不符
[02:35] <ConnorTiberg> E: Some index files failed to download. They have been ignored, or old ones used instead.
[02:35] <ConnorTiberg> Tj-:Got it?
[02:36] <Newbiee> http://paste.kde.org/pb7zorlzn/cjwcjg
[02:36] <Newbiee> my update result
[02:36] <TJ-> ConnorTiberg: Not exactly, that was just the errors, however I can work with that, but read this information for the future:
[02:37] <TJ-> !paste | ConnorTiberg
[02:37] <SpeendaSh> Hello everyone i have a question about USB : i am a Xubuntu user and just recently one port USB stopped working when i plug a Bluetooh key the light flash but it's not recognise and it does the same for other USB devices... any idea of what could be the problem ? it was focntionning perfectly it's the 1st time it's doing this
[02:37] <SpeendaSh> (all the other USB port worked perfectly fine)
[02:37] <SpeendaSh> works*
[02:37] <Beldar> Newbiee, You are eol.
[02:38] <TJ-> ConnorTiberg: Do this "sudo rm /var/lib/apt/lists/partial/* " then re-try "sudo apt-get update" - if there are no external proxies interfering that ought to work
[02:38] <Beldar> !eol | Newbiee look at eol upgrades
[02:38] <Newbiee> Beldar what is eaol meaning
[02:38] <Newbiee> ok one moment please
[02:39] <TJ-> SpeendaSh: The port is probably damaged from having devices pushed in and pulled out of it - often-times the solder on the pins tears away from the PCB tracks, or goes 'dry-jointed'
[02:39] <SpeendaSh> TJ-,  Oh flop... it's weird cause i was rarely using it though...
[02:39] <knob> Hello everyone =)
[02:40] <expunge> heya knob
[02:40] <TJ-> SpeendaSh: Is it a laptop or desktop system? If a desktop, is it a front port on the chassis, or a rear port attached to the motherboard?
[02:41] <SpeendaSh> TJ-,  It a desktop one, it's one the back on the motherbord
[02:42] <knob> o/ expunge  :)
[02:42] <TJ-> SpeendaSh: That's unusual - it is usually the front ports that suffer more. That port is attached directly to the motherboard (probably in a cluster of other ports such as keyboard, network, and so on) ?
[02:44] <SpeendaSh> TJ-,  right... that's why i found it weird myself... it was working perfectly and i was reallyr arely using it... it's just as suddenly stopped working... yes it is attached directly to the motherbord.
[02:44] <SchrodingersScat> I have one like that, it charges my e-cig now.
[02:44] <TJ-> SpeendaSh: Do you see error reports when connecting devices in "/var/log/kern.log" ?
[02:45] <knob> Hey guys, I am going to setup an ftp service on my server.  I will migrate in the near future to scp, yet for now, ftp is the only way to go.     I am running 14.04.    Does this link still apply? vsftp?  https://help.ubuntu.com/10.04/serverguide/ftp-server.html
[02:45] <SpeendaSh> SchrodingersScat,  lol right... atthe moment that's the only thing it could do... charge up my phone ... that would be so lame... ):
[02:45] <SpeendaSh> TJ-,  eum... how can i see this ? when i plug it is nothing happen just that the device light shine.
[02:45] <expunge> knob: scp is so much simpler, and secure
[02:46] <knob> I ask because the link states it is for 10.04
[02:46]  * Beldar dreams of a e-cig smart phone
[02:46] <knob> expunge, I know dude I know... yet there truly is no other way at the moment.
[02:46] <knob> Beldar, I can link you to a e-cig with Bluetooth... what it does?  I am not sure
[02:46] <SchrodingersScat> I'm having a hard time thinking of why you would have no other option than ftp.
[02:46] <Beldar> and microwave
[02:47] <knob> SchrodingersScat, expunge , because the machines that are right now dropping files into the old server are running ftp.   These machines are thousands of miles away.   No remote access.
[02:47] <knob> So I have to setup ftp, and then I get around to changing them over to scp.
[02:47] <spigot> so why would some of my fn keys seem to randomly work/not work? this is a samsung netbook, so its using samsung-tools
[02:47] <TJ-> SpeendaSh: If that port is even half-working you should see some messages in the kern.log as the device is plugged in. I usually put a tail on the log-file and watch it as I connect the device, as in "tail --follow /var/log/kern.log"
[02:47] <knob> I am already 30-35% done in the transfer... yet the server move needs to occur tonight.
[02:48] <spigot> last boot, brightness and fan control were working, but not volume. reboot! volume works, fan control, but brightness does nothing.
[02:48] <aliteralmind> I just changed a directory's ownership, and I didn't even need to look it up on the web. Thank you. Thank you very much.
[02:48] <SpeendaSh> TJ-, i'm sorry i'm pretyt much a newbie at this lol what is the "kern.log" ?
[02:49] <SpeendaSh> TJ-,  Do you mean it's a command line ?
[02:49] <TJ-> SpeendaSh: It is where the Linux kernel writes all its messages about hardware events, processes going bad, and so on
[02:49] <spigot> there's not a word in any log I can find, and it makes little sense to me that from a fresh boot (not from restore from a sleep state or hibernate), some would work and others wont. If I reboot again, its random if both brightness and volume (fn+ up/down vs fn+ left right) will work
[02:49] <TJ-> SpeendaSh: Yes, at a shell command-line in a terminal
[02:50] <Newbiee> how do you find codename of your ubuntu?
[02:50] <SpeendaSh> TJ-,  oh ok... so what command line do i need to write in the terminal ?
[02:50] <TJ-> spigot sounds like an ACPI problem
[02:50] <TJ-> SpeendaSh: "tail --follow /var/log/kern.log"
[02:50] <spigot> Newbiee: try "lsb_release -a"
[02:51] <SpeendaSh> TJ-,  Thanks i'll give it a try just a sec
[02:51] <spigot> Newbiee: in a terminal, type that command, that is.
[02:51] <patchman> i have a chromebook w/touchscreen running Ubuntu 14.04... the Unity Launcher does not respond to touch events, such as opening a program... how to fix?
[02:51] <Beldar> spigotI would check the web and askubuntu with the release the exact model and variations of fn and uses, your samsung-tools are not really in use per-say in linux I suspect
[02:51] <Newbiee> thanks
[02:51] <Beldar> spigot, ^^^
[02:51] <spigot> TJ-: could be. something is taking those fn+left/right presses and doing nothing with them, not even an error. that's what gets me.
[02:52] <Newbiee> its quantal. but says No LSB modules are available.
[02:52] <Bashing-om> Newbiee: IF all you want is the "codename" terminal command -> lsb_release -dc <- will tell you that.
[02:52] <Newbiee> do i need it?
[02:52] <patchman> i have a chromebook w/touchscreen running Ubuntu 14.04... the touchscreen works (mostly) but the Unity Launcher does not respond to touch events, such as opening a program... how to fix?
[02:52] <patchman> *carification
[02:52] <Newbiee> ok thanks you guys
[02:52] <spigot> Newbiee: no, sorry, listen to Bashing-om - I was just recalling the command from memory, giving you a bit more information than you need. don't worry about any messages about missing lsb modules
[02:52] <Beldar> Newbiee, YOU have 12.10 quantal, the link you showed says that.
[02:53] <SchrodingersScat> knob: seems it's up to you.  I didn't see anything jarring in that page
[02:53] <knob> SchrodingersScat, thanks!! I am running it now.  Just installed it... going to remove anonymous login from the .conf
[02:53] <knob> I know ftp is not good... yet it is either that or "no work".   So,... we will make do for now.  :)
[02:54] <Nivex> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/update-notifier/+bug/1344762
[02:54] <SpeendaSh> TJ-,  i've type the comand line a whole list of things showed up and the i plugged my usb device and nothing happened...
[02:54] <Nivex> HWE stack falls out of support tomorrow and the "You should run do-release-upgrade" message has been there for two weeks. This is a bit disturbing.
[02:55] <Newbiee> yes i have 12.10 ubuntu. learned now its quantal codename
[02:55] <Beldar> Nivex, do-release-upgrade -p works
[02:55] <patchman> is there some setting for Unity Launcher to enable it for touch events?
[02:55] <TJ-> SpeendaSh: That means the port has gone AWOL I'm afraid... you should see something if its data connections were working
[02:55] <Nivex> Beldar: ok, so why isn't the official channel working yet?
[02:55] <Beldar> Nivex, No idea we have no connection to it.
[02:55] <TJ-> SpeendaSh: The only other possibility - remote - is the USB controller is shutting down that port for some reason
[02:55] <Beldar> ask them
[02:55] <TJ-> SpeendaSh: Press Ctrl+C to terminate the 'tail ...' operation
[02:56] <SpeendaSh> TJ-,  ok done
[02:56] <Nivex> Beldar: ask who? I've asked in three different #ubuntu- channels and two different twitter accounts, not to mention the bug report I pasted. I can't get anyone to answer.
[02:56] <SpeendaSh> TJ-,  oh flop.. my poor USB port... wjhat happened to him...
[02:56] <SchrodingersScat> nothing gold can stay
[02:57] <Beldar> Nivex, Gotta go to the developers all those sources you have tried are not connected except by the word ubuntu when it is used.
[02:57] <spigot> hmm. turns out "Samsung Tools has no control on screen brightness levels, nor on the behaviour of the Fn-Up and Fn-Down hotkeys used to control brightness."
[02:57] <spigot> "If brightness control does not work for you, then the problem may be in the kernel driver missing support for your notebook model, may be a bug in gnome-power-manager (if you use Gnome), may be a bug in powerdevil (if you use KDE), and so on." so I guess I should look elsewhere
[02:58] <Beldar> spigot, No really, this is linux not the original OS. :)
[02:58] <aliteralmind> I just completed these instructions (http://goo.gl/0Dw0ZQ), and I'm not clear on how to access the static directory that I just created in the final steps. It seems to have worked, but I don't get how to see it in a browser. What's the url?
[02:59] <Nivex> Beldar: I thought filing a bug report would connect me with "the developers". Can you recommend a specific mailing list or other such venue?
[02:59] <Beldar> Nivex, I think they know, your contribution would be what?
[03:00] <Nivex> Beldar: *I* want to know. I know deadlines are sometimes missed. I just want to know what the blockers are so I can plan my upgrades.
[03:00] <aliteralmind> Actually, it says that http://104.131.200.120/static should work, but it's giving me a 502 bad gateway.
[03:00] <Beldar> Nivex, If you want to help, help the at least 50 user who come here daily needing help. ;)
[03:01] <Beldar> on that exact issue
[03:01] <sgo11> sometimes, there will be a popup window to remind me to backup the entire file system, something like that. what is that service? I would like to stop it. thanks.
[03:01] <Beldar> Nivex, If they knew the "blockers it would be fixed. Sometimes you just have to adapt. ;)
[03:02] <Nivex> That argument doesn't hold water. You can know what the issue is but still be working on a fix. It might still be in testing. I just want some communication.
[03:03] <Nivex> I can't adapt if I don't have information.
[03:03] <Beldar> Nivex, Sorry as a long time user and helper that rhetoric does work, it is critical thinking. Adaptation is why you are not a hunter gather.
[03:04] <Beldar> gatherer*
[03:04] <expunge> hunting and gathering is underrated
[03:05] <Nivex> Critical thinking requires information. All I know is "It's broken."
[03:05] <aliteralmind> There are no comments about this (beyond someone else saying they have this error...no solutions), and this page (http://www.nginxtips.com/502-bad-gateway-using-nginx/) is not helping...or I'm not getting it.
[03:06] <Nivex> This conversation is going in circles.
[03:06] <Beldar> Nivex, It requires a hypothesis generally depending on the end goal. It is as you cannot understand there is no available answer that suits your needs, live with it. ;)
[03:07] <Beldar> oh well not our job to raise the cognitive consciousness
[03:08] <Newbiee> i got that message: No candidate version found for update-manager
[03:08] <patchman> is there an applet to set brightness from the task panel?
[03:09] <Newbiee> do i have update manager already?
[03:09] <Beldar> Newbiee, Have you looked at the eol upgrade in the link I gave you?
[03:09] <Newbiee> yes
[03:09] <Newbiee> it says From version 6.06 and up you will need to install the update-manager and update-manager-core packages.
[03:09] <Beldar> Newbiee, You have to change the sources
[03:09] <Newbiee> not for cli servers. i dont know if mine is cli server though
[03:10] <Newbiee> i changed sourcelist
[03:10] <Beldar> Newbiee, That is a long upgrade through two other eol's you might just backup and fresh install 14.04.
[03:11] <Newbiee> http://paste.kde.org/pihi0fdzy/pjcu3a
[03:11] <Newbiee> its my source list
[03:11] <Beldar> Newbiee, I thought there was a jump upgrade but could not find one.
[03:12] <Beldar> Newbiee, read the requirments.
[03:13] <Newbiee> Beldar this is new vds already. do i need update or not?
[03:13] <Beldar> Newbiee, Backup the OS before you do any upgrades.
[03:13] <Newbiee> can i solve my problems without upgrade?
[03:14] <Beldar> Newbiee, being eol means no security updates and you are not attached to the repos, that was all the 404's
[03:15] <Beldar> Newbiee, Another here may help on staying where you are hnoever it is not safe basically
[03:15] <Beldar> *however*
[03:15] <Newbiee> Beldar i cannot use apt-get install tcl php perl? or other updates?
[03:15] <daftykins> Newbiee: it's game over, upgrade o'clock
[03:16] <Beldar> Newbiee, I would not know exactly, the only help staying where you are will be people feeling sorry for you and not thinking of the safety issues.
[03:20] <Newbiee> i couldnt install tcl on ubuntu
[03:22] <sgo11> sometimes, there will be a popup window to remind me to backup the entire file system, something like that. what is that service? I would like to stop it. thanks.
[03:22] <Newbiee> ok i will not update then.
[03:23] <TJ-> Beldar: daftykins + those interested in the 12.04.5 HWE upgrade availability clarifications: please read these two: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-announce/2014-July/000186.html  https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-release/2014-August/002969.html
[03:23] <SchrodingersScat> sgo11: what backup programs do you have installed?  could be easier to examine while it's still open, say by checking running processes with htop, top, ps, etc.
[03:23] <laspahr> Hey, I've just finished teardown/reconstruction of my first tower, it was running WinXP 32-bit, AMD Athlon XP processor, 512 MB RAM and 160GB Hard Drive
[03:24] <sgo11> SchrodingersScat, I don't have that open now. Just fresh installation of ubuntu. it should be a default service.
[03:24] <laspahr> what's the best Distro of Linux to put on there? I was leaning towards Ubuntu just vanilla but I wasn't sure if there was a better one?
[03:24] <sgo11> SchrodingersScat, I saw that annoyed notification in many ubuntu releases. 12.04, 13.10, 14.04 etc...
[03:24] <SchrodingersScat> sgo11: oh, between updating?
[03:25] <Beldar> !flavors | lasers lubuntu would be my choice
[03:25] <daftykins> laspahr: i wouldn't put any on there, it's too old and rubbish
[03:25] <SchrodingersScat> laspahr: with 512ram you're probably wanting to stick to lubuntu or xubuntu
[03:25] <Beldar> laspahr, sorry bots message for you.
[03:25] <sgo11> SchrodingersScat, no. it just pops up randomly. maybe a few months after installation.
[03:25] <laspahr> so not vanilla Ubuntu?
[03:25] <daftykins> laspahr: it won't work
[03:25] <Beldar> lasers, sorry you can go back to sleep.
[03:26] <laspahr> okay, so lubuntu or xbuntu?
[03:26] <laspahr> xubuntu*
[03:26] <sgo11> SchrodingersScat, did you never see such popup backup notification? that's weird. I keep seeing them in multiple ubuntu releases.
[03:26]  * lasers grumbles 
[03:26] <Beldar> I vote openbox with tint2 really laspahr
[03:26] <daftykins> TJ-: thanks, i came to that conclusion looking it up the other day. should be pretty handy that program to confirm people will move to 12.04.5 and run trusty's 3.13 kernel :)
[03:27] <laspahr> Beldar what's that?
[03:27] <Beldar> laspahr, A desktop even lighter than lubuntu/lxde
[03:27] <SchrodingersScat> laspahr: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/SystemRequirements
[03:27] <TJ-> daftykins: It's pretty daft there's no clear explanation for end-users though; and ending support on the day the release comes out too - there should be at least a month's grace!
[03:27] <yggdrasil> yo
[03:28] <SchrodingersScat> sgo11: correct, the only annoying pop-up I get is to restart occasionally, and that's when I update kernel without restarting.
[03:28] <expunge> laspahr: does it have a dedicated graphics card?
[03:28] <sgo11> SchrodingersScat, I never have that pop-up in my ubuntu life. \
[03:28] <Beldar> laspahr, lubuntu is rather config orientated not so many gui's same with openbox.
[03:28] <daftykins> TJ-: agreed, the older HWE's giving EOL warnings seem to be confusing many
[03:28] <yggdrasil> had a macbook pro that just wouldnt install ubuntu. so i mounted the disk via firewire and performed a peninstall of the installation cd onto the hard drive . so now i hvae it booting up but .. can i convert the peninstall to a full blow ubuntu install ? when it starts up it asks to install or to run.
[03:29] <laspahr> Beldar: so it would be optimal for this tower? SchrodingersScat: so it would work, just not well? expunge: ummm.. I don't think so, I didn't see one
[03:29] <expunge> yggdrasil: what's a pen install?
[03:29] <yggdrasil> its like a dd of the cd
[03:29] <Beldar> laspahr, optimal is a subjective opinion, develop one. ;)
[03:29] <laspahr> Beldar: so pretty much instead of a vanilla Ubuntu install with GUI, it's going to be more command line?
[03:30] <daftykins> yggdrasil: no
[03:30] <expunge> laspahr: nah, it needn't be
[03:30] <expunge> laspahr: does it have a dedicated graphics card?
[03:30] <quantibility> ok
[03:30] <quantibility> who remembers me from yesterday
[03:30] <expunge> yggdrasil: you can install _from_ a dd of the cd _to_ the firewire drive and migrate -that-
[03:30] <Beldar> laspahr, No all mentioned are desktops, it is the configs that increase as you go lighter, rather than  a gui to click the changes you might want.
[03:31] <Basketball> W: Failed to fetch http://dl.google.com/linux/deb/dists/testing/non-free/binary-i386/Packages  404  Not Found [IP: 74.125.224.230 80]
[03:31] <expunge> quantibility: nick only
[03:31] <yggdrasil> expunge i think im on the phase 2 of that. how do i migrate it ?
[03:31] <expunge> yggdrasil: you ran the ubuntu installer and it finished?
[03:31] <yggdrasil> im doing an apt-get update
[03:31] <yggdrasil> no
[03:32] <expunge> yggdrasil: you need an installed system first
[03:32] <yggdrasil> i wanst sure if the installer could instal onto the drive it booted on.
[03:32] <laspahr> Beldar: so less personalization..? sorry I guess I'm not catching on
[03:32] <Beldar> laspahr, That computer might make a nice local media server or something, an OS is possible, but I would not do it unless forced.
[03:32] <yggdrasil> let me run it and see what happens
[03:32] <laspahr> configurations, that's the word I was looking for
[03:32] <expunge> yggdrasil: oh okay
[03:32] <expunge> yggdrasil: you have an internal drive
[03:32] <expunge> yggdrasil: and on that is the install media
[03:32] <yggdrasil> yea
[03:32] <yggdrasil> yep
[03:32] <expunge> yggdrasil: yeah you can install from that
[03:32] <sgo11> SchrodingersScat, I think that is deja-dup. trying to figure out how to disable that pop-up now.
[03:32] <yggdrasil> ok ill try it
[03:32] <expunge> yggdrasil: as long as it can see some partition space
[03:32] <laspahr> Beldar: if I were to make it a "server", what would that do for me?
[03:32] <yggdrasil> yep i should have quite a bit.
[03:33] <expunge> yggdrasil: it wouldn't boot from usb?
[03:33] <SchrodingersScat> laspahr: should try a couple, depending on how daring you get you can get complicated
[03:33] <yggdrasil> expunge: nothing. tried a million different iterations
[03:33] <SchrodingersScat> sgo11: sounds likely
[03:33] <expunge> yggdrasil: how'd you dd it to the internal?
[03:33] <laspahr> It's quite loud when it's running... so Idk if I can handle it running 24/7
[03:33] <Beldar> laspahr, to many questions for me this is info you can research.
[03:33] <yggdrasil> ibooted the macbook in target mode
[03:33] <yggdrasil> then mounted it via firewire
[03:33] <expunge> yggdrasil: target mode?
[03:33] <laspahr> okay so pretty much, it's junk?
[03:33] <expunge> yggdrasil: what OS did you use to dd?
[03:34] <yggdrasil> so the internal drive looked like an xternal drive to the workstation.
[03:34] <yggdrasil> ubuntu
[03:34] <expunge> laspahr: it is if you can afford $25 to replace it
[03:34] <yggdrasil> i actually used the ubutntu start up disk.
[03:34] <expunge> laspahr: it's a working computer to _someone_
[03:34] <yggdrasil> creator
[03:34] <SchrodingersScat> laspahr: if you install the server image you'll get a text boot, last I checked, it takes ~52MB ram
[03:34] <daftykins> laspahr: i'd bury it.
[03:34] <Beldar> gold for some junk for others and everything between
[03:34] <quantibility> expung: im looking for that room i was directed too for talking bs and ubuntu?
[03:34] <yggdrasil> ok wel im gont to try it. ill let you know
[03:34] <expunge> yggdrasil: okay, you probably could've just installed from that point...
[03:34] <expunge> anyways, yeah, g'luck
[03:34] <yggdrasil> nah
[03:34] <laspahr> well it's not like I'm losing money, the guy gave it to me and said "if you don't want it it's going in the trash"
[03:34] <sgo11> SchrodingersScat, I found this X-GNOME-Autostart-Delay=120 in deja-dup-monitor.desktop. what is unit of 120? 120 days?
[03:34] <yggdrasil> i would have had to install it from the workstaion and i was afraid it would have been differnt target.
[03:34] <expunge> quantibility: -chat maybe?
[03:34] <yggdrasil> uh architecture
[03:34] <quantibility> yea
[03:34] <expunge> quantibility: /msg alis list *ubunt*chat* or *off*
[03:35] <expunge> yggdrasil: no matter
[03:35] <SchrodingersScat> sgo11: remembered moments
[03:35] <yggdrasil> ok cool.
[03:35] <expunge> yggdrasil: should install from where it is, if there's partition space
[03:35] <daftykins> yggdrasil: i think expunge is right that it may've installed ok in target mode
[03:35] <yggdrasil> hmm..
[03:35] <expunge> yggdrasil: you can resize afterwards, or just leave the image there for emergencies
[03:35] <yggdrasil> right
[03:35] <daftykins> yggdrasil: did you ever try zapping the PRAM as well prior to your boot attempts?
[03:35] <expunge> poor prams
[03:35] <laspahr> Yeah, Imma move on to the next computer heh
[03:35] <yggdrasil> ok well let me see what happens. this will be like an awesome recovery partition if i think its goint to do what its goinna do
[03:35] <yggdrasil> daftykins: yes i did that
[03:35] <^Mike> help! Scrolling seems to go in opposite directions in different programs. I've tried "natural scrolling" both off and on and it doesn't seem to do anything
[03:36] <yggdrasil> thought that was going to get it for sure.
[03:36] <sgo11> SchrodingersScat, number of seconds. weird.
[03:36] <yggdrasil> ill keep you posted
[03:36] <Beldar> laspahr, Heh donate it to a suitable place.
[03:36] <SchrodingersScat> sgo11: could be so everything is mounted? your guess is as good as mine
[03:37] <laspahr> Such as? :) I'm thinking for parts/not working sell on ebay :)
[03:37] <laspahr> cuz the parts are fine, just not worth it for me to keep
[03:37] <sgo11> SchrodingersScat, anyway, I think i just apt-get purge deja-dup. I don't need any backups.
[03:37] <daftykins> laspahr: nobody sane would spend money on that old junk, now - all this is is off topic for this channel
[03:37] <Basketball> what is a good app to make a collage in
[03:37] <SchrodingersScat> sgo11: well, you do, but, ok
[03:38] <laspahr> daftykins: suggestion for a better channel?
[03:38] <SchrodingersScat> sgo11: there are many fine options for you to consider in the meantime
[03:39] <yggdrasil> oh yea im going to have to resize this partition..
[03:39] <yggdrasil> bummer
[03:39] <yggdrasil> bbl.
[03:39] <daftykins> laspahr: ##hardware - but they will laugh at you much as we did :)
[03:39] <yggdrasil> thanks for the insight gentlement.
[03:40] <SchrodingersScat> I wasn't laughing, I have worse machines I'll keep for longer.
[04:13] <Newbiee> how can i install tcl on ubuntu? apt-get install tcl not works
[04:15] <Bashing-om> Newbiee: 12.10 still ?? // release 14.04 -> Filename: pool/main/t/tcltk-defaults/tcl_8.6.0+6ubuntu3_amd64.deb .
[04:18] <Newbiee> Bashing-om yes i will not update it. i see its long story and im new user. first time using.. first i should learn somethings maybe
[04:18] <Newbiee> i will apt-get install pool/main/t/tcltk-defaults/tcl_8.6.0+6ubuntu3_amd64.deb ?
[04:19] <Beldar> Newbiee, Learn it on a supported release this an eol is not a ideal learning platform.
[04:19] <Newbiee> but my provider not has latest version of ubuntu
[04:20] <Newbiee> i had to choose this on my vds
[04:24] <Bashing-om> Newbiee: As 12.10 is End_Of_life it has no support, the softeare repository has been turned away and no longer exists as you may have known it . Install a current release and be supported .
[04:25] <Newbiee> Bashing-om i cannot install tcl on my ubuntu version?? omg
[04:26] <Bashing-om> Newbiee: Your release has no support // either upgrade or fresh install to a current release.
[04:26] <Newbiee> no support meaning i can not install anything on it?
[04:27] <Bashing-om> Newbiee: Food for thought // Release 14.04 has full support untill April of 2019 !!
[04:27] <Bashing-om> Newbiee: You - as just getting started, no - you will not be able to install anything on release 12.10 // fact .
[04:30] <Artemis3> Newbiee, stick to LTS releases, that is, either 12.04 or 14.04
[04:31] <Newbiee> Bashing-om but this vds maybe not lets me to update it. i paid for this operation system yesterday. they not sell latest version
[04:31] <mike_> sus
[04:31] <Newbiee> Artemis3 ok i will know that
[04:31] <mike_> cool
[04:32] <Artemis3> Newbiee, i suggest backup and reinstall an LTS version. To upgrade from 12.10 you need too many steps and lots of wasting time
[04:35] <Newbiee> Artemis3 where do i install it? on cpanel?
[04:35] <Newbiee> no need backup its new system and didnt use for anything yet
[04:36] <Strit> Newbiee, Wait. You bought 12.10 somewhere?
[04:36] <Newbiee> yes i bought that
[04:36] <Newbiee> maybe they not lets me to update it i dont know how though
[04:36] <Artemis3> Newbiee, this is your computer or you using remote system?
[04:36] <Newbiee> its vds
[04:36] <Newbiee> not my computer
[04:36] <Strit> Newbiee, You do now you can legally download 14.04 on ubuntu.com right?
[04:36] <Newbiee> paid for a month
[04:37] <Artemis3> Newbiee, for remote system it depends on what they provide, can you ask them to install you a new version?
[04:37] <Newbiee> Strit its not my computer
[04:37] <Newbiee> Artemis3 yesterday i asked them to install ubuntu 12. its latest version on their list
[04:37] <Artemis3> Newbiee, ask them 12.04 not 12.10
[04:38] <Artemis3> 12.04 = LTS
[04:38] <Strit> yep. 12.04 is an LTS (Long Term Support)
[04:38] <Artemis3> Newbiee, if you use 12.04 its all fine
[04:41] <Newbiee> i have Description:    Ubuntu 12.10
[04:41] <Newbiee> its bad :(
[04:41] <Strit> Newbiee, yeah, tell them to install 12.04 for you instead. :)
[04:42] <daftykins> Newbiee: you've been talking about this for a long time now, you have your answer - go and sort it out.
[04:42] <daftykins> there is no need to waste users time here more until you've installed a supported version
[04:42] <Newbiee> on their list
[04:43] <cfhowlett> Newbiee, 12.10 is not supported here.  NOT supported.  come back when you've installed a supported OS
[04:43] <Newbiee> its written as Ubuntu 12.X and i chosen it. there's not another version. (and they change it with money)
[04:44] <Newbiee> ok thanks
[04:50] <quantibility> how do i get my sound to work right?
[04:51] <quantibility> anyone?
[04:52] <Abhijit> !sound | quantibility
[04:53] <daftykins> quantibility: a little more detail is always welcome with questions
[04:53] <cfhowlett> !details | quantibility
[04:54] <quantibility> yeah sorry, im getting sound out of hydrogen but not google chrome should i try the same thing on a different browser?
[04:56] <quantibility> nothing really out of firefox either
[04:56] <quantibility> command to restart sound?
[04:57] <quantibility> yeah yeah yeah
[04:57] <quantibility> comunity
[04:57] <quantibility> looking
[04:57] <quantibility> sorry
[04:57] <Locke2002> Help? My fail2ban generated a bunch of emails to you@example.com because I didn't change a filter I used, and now sendmail is retrying them every 10 minutes. What should/can I do?
[05:00] <Mallot1> Hello
[05:00] <Mallot1> Can ubuntu be used to host a online mysql server?
[05:01] <cfhowlett> Mallot1, of course.  see #ubuntu-server channel for more.
[05:01] <Mallot1> online not local?
[05:02] <Mallot1> wow thanks cfhowlett!  :D
[05:02] <cfhowlett> Mallot1, happy2help
[05:02] <Mallot1> :)
[05:10] <daftykins> TJ-: just had a go with that command on a 12.04 VM i have lying around :) here's it fully dist-upgrade'd and running "hwe-support-status --verbose" - http://paste.ubuntu.com/7976582/
[05:10] <daftykins> (it reads 12.04.5 from /etc/issue)
[05:13] <AmR|EiSa> I try install Qt on kubuntu 14.04 and this my log
[05:13] <AmR|EiSa> amr@EiSa-LapTop:~/Downloads$ chmod +x qt-opensource-linux-x86-android-5.3.0.run
[05:13] <AmR|EiSa> amr@EiSa-LapTop:~/Downloads$ ./qt-opensource-linux-x86-android-5.3.0.run
[05:13] <daftykins> don't paste here
[05:13] <AmR|EiSa> bash: ./qt-opensource-linux-x86-android-5.3.0.run: No such file or directory
[05:13] <daftykins> use paste.ubuntu.com
[05:13] <AmR|EiSa> that's all
[05:14] <AmR|EiSa> sorry for that.
[05:14] <daftykins> attempting to install something via a .run file is a recipe for disaster
[05:14] <daftykins> are you sure you can't find packages for what you're after?
[05:14] <AmR|EiSa> that bash say
[05:15] <AmR|EiSa> my uname -a was " Linux EiSa-LapTop 3.13.0-32-generic #57-Ubuntu SMP Tue Jul 15 03:51:08 UTC 2014 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux "
[05:16] <daftykins> AmR|EiSa: so... did you look for a package or PPA of what you want to install?
[05:16] <AmR|EiSa> some one say that I need 32bit support, Is this right ?
[05:17] <daftykins> no idea, i'm unfamiliar with Qt
[05:17] <AmR|EiSa> OK, How I can install 32bit support ?
[05:17] <TJ-> daftykins: Thanks for that output - I was busy adding features to pastebinit! That is somewhat confusing isn't it, if 'issue' is "12.04.5" isn't that supposed to include the latest HWE?
[05:18] <brucelee> trying to install gui after having installed ubuntu 14.04 server
[05:18] <brucelee> and trying to do it from cd
[05:18] <brucelee> i have the cdrom mounted, and did apt-cdrom /media/cdrom add
[05:19] <brucelee> how do i download ubuntu-desktop now, it says theres no such package
[05:19] <brucelee> infact, everything i try to install says no such package
[05:19] <daftykins> TJ-: ooh are you pastebinit's dev? :) as per your links, i can only imagine i'm jumping the gun and too early at trying this - as today is the 7th (albeit 6am BST)
[05:20] <daftykins> brucelee: did you apt-get update?
[05:20] <brucelee> daftykins: yah
[05:20] <daftykins> brucelee: so what's the CD? (or rather DVD)
[05:21] <brucelee> its ubuntu 14.04 workstation
[05:21] <brucelee> desktop rather
[05:21] <AmR|EiSa> How I can install 32bit support package ?
[05:21] <cfhowlett> brucelee, EVERYTHING results in "no install"?
[05:21] <brucelee> everything ive tried installing sof ar
[05:21] <brucelee> ubuntu-desktop
[05:21] <brucelee> xorg
[05:21] <daftykins> hrmm i'm not 100% sure the standard desktop ISO can be used like that
[05:21] <brucelee> etc
[05:22] <brucelee> :/
[05:22] <TJ-> daftykins: I'm not, but I've just added a couple of useful features (echo to local console, review before paste) and put in merge requests: https://code.launchpad.net/~tj/pastebinit/
[05:22] <daftykins> eeee: wb
[05:25] <daftykins> TJ-: sounds great!
[05:30] <AmR|EiSa> plz any help about How to Make 32-bit Applications Work on a 64-bit Operating System ????
[05:31] <Beldar> AmR|EiSa, Name the app you have 32 bit stuff already most likely IE firefox.
[05:32] <AmR|EiSa> Beldar: I need install Qt SDK 32bit from installer not from server and the system can't run it :(
[05:35] <ZZRMike> I have a 3TB drive that I partitioned with parted and mounted with ext4. I'm trying to copy files off my NAS onto it using rsync. But the disk usage is hovering around 2TB event hough rsync is supposedly copying new files over. Is it an issue with "df" or???
[05:35] <eeee> daftykins: thanks :)
[05:36] <Beldar> AmR|EiSa, That helps the channel help you, however apps not in the ubuntu repos are technically short on support here. I see a qt-sdk in trusty can't tell the bit
[05:36] <R0ckET> hi
[05:37] <daftykins> R0ckET: hi
[05:37] <daftykins> do you have a question?
[05:37] <brucelee> anyone know how to install gui from cd?
[05:37] <TJ-> AmR|EiSa: Beldar If the foreign architecture has been enabled, you should be able to install it with "apt-get install qt-sdk:i386"
[05:37] <brucelee> i have ubuntu server installed (14.04) and i want to install ubuntu-desktop onto my server
[05:37] <R0ckET> I need to compress a list of files with gzip, my problem is that they keep the same name home.css gzip> home.css not home.css.gz
[05:37] <brucelee> i did apt-cdrom add
[05:37] <brucelee> apt-update
[05:38] <brucelee> but hwen i type apt-get install ubuntu-desktop it says no package
[05:38] <Beldar> TJ-, Thanks I figured there was a way just not familiar with the process.
[05:38] <AmR|EiSa> TJ-: the server don't have last very it's 5.3.0 & 5.3.1
[05:38] <daftykins> brucelee: by now you could've just done it via network surely (:
[05:39] <brucelee> daftykins: my network is really slow :p
[05:39] <brucelee> its also limited data
[05:39] <brucelee> i cant do it over network :(
[05:39] <brucelee> but yeah
[05:39] <brucelee> this issue is killing my time
[05:39] <cfhowlett> brucelee, ??? then how do you expect to install anything?
[05:39] <daftykins> brucelee: i see, see if there are any issues with your /etc/apt/sources.list - but i'd just get it done (TM) :)
[05:39] <brucelee> cfhowlett: im not always without internet, but i need the gui now, if possible
[05:40] <brucelee> daftykins: all i have in my sources.list is this:
[05:40] <cfhowlett> brucelee, sudo apt-get install xfce4 kde lxde
[05:40] <Beldar> brucelee, pastebin it
[05:40] <daftykins> brucelee: ^
[05:40] <daftykins> paste.ubuntu.com please
[05:40] <brucelee> deb cdrom:[Ubuntu 14.04.1 LTS _Trusty Tahr_ - Release amd64 (20140722.2)]/ trusty main restricted
[05:40] <brucelee> just one line
[05:41] <Beldar> whew that was a close one. ;)
[05:41] <brucelee> :p
[05:41] <daftykins> :D
[05:41] <brucelee> i commented out the rest
[05:41] <cfhowlett> brucelee, would that be the server cd-rom
[05:41] <AmR|EiSa> I try 5.2.1 and it's work fine
[05:41] <brucelee> thats the desktop iso
[05:41] <brucelee> my iso is ubuntu14.04.1-Desktop-amd64.iso
[05:41] <AmR|EiSa> I try 5.2.1 x64bit and it's work fine*
[05:41] <Mandakh> #help
[05:42] <brucelee> i looked at this ubuntuforums.org link: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=972693
[05:42] <cfhowlett> brucelee, you can use the alternative ISO as a source.  Not so with the 14.04 ISO.  or so I understand
[05:42] <brucelee> almost exactly...
[05:42] <brucelee> how many different kinds of cdroms are there?
[05:42] <brucelee> i thought theres just 1 :p
[05:42] <cfhowlett> brucelee, there is now . now more alternative.
[05:43] <TJ-> AmR|EiSa: 5.3.0 is in the Utopic archive; you may be able to backport it
[05:43] <daftykins> brucelee: i wonder if this is of any use, don't be fooled by the outdated content - http://funwithlinux.net/2013/01/ubuntu-install-packages-from-cd/
[05:43] <tac_> So I just installed dropbox. I'm not sure how to get it to run in the background automatically (and without a terminal) every time I start x.
[05:44] <tac_> oh, nvm. I guess it has an option to handle that for you
[05:44] <cfhowlett> tac_, fire up a terminal.  dropbox             command will display options
[05:44] <nights> hi
[05:44] <brucelee> cfhowlett: whats an alternative cdrom? is that simply the same cdrom downloaded from an alternative source like bittorrent?
[05:44] <nights> trying to configure nginx
[05:45] <TJ-> cfhowlett: The desktop ISOs can be used as apt-cdrom sources; they have an archive on them the same as other disks
[05:45] <daftykins> Mandakh: if you have a support question feel free to ask it
[05:45] <cfhowlett> brucelee, it is no more for 14.04
[05:45] <nights> get some very long time outs and then i get "an error occured"
[05:45] <brucelee> cfhowlett: what do you mean it is no more for 14.04?
[05:45] <nights> theres nothing in the error.lgo
[05:45] <nights> log
[05:45] <brucelee> cfhowlett: what is no more?
[05:45] <cfhowlett> TJ-, please advice brucelee
[05:46] <brucelee> TJ-: thats what i have, the desktop iso
[05:46] <TJ-> brucelee: The desktop ISOs can be used as apt-cdrom sources; they have an archive on them the same as other disks, you can see the marker in the ISOs root directory, in its /.disk/ directory
[05:46] <brucelee> TJ-: the iso is in, and i did apt-cdrom add
[05:46] <brucelee> TJ-: but when i do apt-get install ubuntu-desktop, it says no package available
[05:46] <TJ-> brucelee: is it mounted
[05:46] <brucelee> TJ-: yeah
[05:46] <brucelee> TJ-: i can browse to it
[05:47] <brucelee> inside /.disk/ theres base_installable, casper-uuid-generic, cd_type info, release_notes,url
[05:48] <OerHeks> brucelee, and your server is 64 bit too, and updated to 14.04.1?
[05:48] <brucelee> my server is ...
[05:48] <nights> anyone know nginx well??
[05:48] <cfhowlett> !nginx
[05:48] <daftykins> nights: i bet they have a channel
[05:49] <brucelee> OerHeks: yeah, 14.04 LTS, 14.04 trusty
[05:49] <TJ-> brucelee: Can you show me "grep cdrom /etc/apt/sources.list" ?
[05:49] <OerHeks> cat /etc/issue # does it say 14.04.1?
[05:49] <brucelee> deb cdrom:[Ubuntu 14.04.1 LTS _Trusty Tahr_ - Release amd64 (20140722.2)]/trusty main restricted
[05:49] <tac_> Here's a better question than the one I just asked
[05:49] <OerHeks> else that iso is not seen as it is in the future
[05:50] <tac_> In the keyboard settings, I bound SUPER+T to open a terminal
[05:50] <brucelee> TJ-: ^
[05:50] <tac_> but instead, it opens the trash...
[05:50] <tac_> Is there a way I can disable it opening the trash? Or is Unity trying to send me a message regarding my insistance on using a text-based interface?
[05:51] <redhat_> Sublime text is not installed, getting an error. Kindly help me ...
[05:53] <brucelee> TJ-: i also cant see any issues with my sources.list :p
[05:54] <TJ-> brucelee: That's incorrect, edit the '/trusty/' bit so it is "deb cdrom:[Ubuntu 14.04.1 LTS _Trusty Tahr_ - Release amd64 (20140722.2)]/ trusty main restricted"
[05:54] <OerHeks> redhat_, how did you try to install sublime text?
[05:54] <TJ-> brucelee: A crucial space before "trusty" is missing
[05:54] <redhat_> oerHeks: through repo...
[05:54] <brucelee> oh sorry, there already is a space, im just consoled in via virtualbox, so i cant copy and paste
[05:55] <brucelee> let me ssh in
[05:55] <brucelee> deb cdrom:[Ubuntu 14.04.1 LTS _Trusty Tahr_ - Release amd64 (20140722.2)]/ trusty main restricted
[05:55] <brucelee> this is what it is
[05:55] <brucelee> verbatim
[05:55] <brucelee> sorry for having you compare :P
[05:56] <TJ-> brucelee: OK, so there is a space already!
[05:56] <brucelee> but at least we now know theres noting wrong with it
[05:56] <brucelee> yah
[05:56] <TJ-> brucelee: OK... lets dig deeper :)
[05:56] <brucelee> sounds like ill need to find that pastebin addon
[05:56]  * cfhowlett thinks *Inception Alert!*
[05:57] <TJ-> brucelee: OK, the disk doesn't contain "ubuntu-desktop"
[05:58] <brucelee> ok :/
[05:58] <brucelee> that sucks
[05:58] <brucelee> all those sites i was reading said it was possbie
[05:58] <brucelee> how do you tell what pacakgaes are in it
[06:00] <redhat_> 0erHeks: through repo...
[06:00] <redhat_> OerHeks: through repo...
[06:00] <OerHeks> redhat_, yes, but i am waiting for more details
[06:01] <OerHeks> what repo, what error, etc
[06:01] <OerHeks> PPA's by the way, are not official supported here *
[06:02] <redhat_> OerHeks: fetch to failed repo
[06:02] <cfhowlett> libsublime7 is in the repo ... not sure if that's the same
[06:03] <OerHeks> cfhowlett, that is just an interface lib, not the 3th party sublimetext
[06:04] <TJ-> brucelee: "MOUNTPOINT="/path/to/mount/"; zgrep '^Package:' ${MOUNTPOINT}/dists/trusty/*/binary-*/Packages.gz"
[06:05] <redhat_> OerHeks: kindly help me out...
[06:05] <OerHeks> redhat_, how? we don't know what ppa/repo you used
[06:05] <cfhowlett> redhat_, if you give no details, you get no help.
[06:05] <OerHeks> !details
[06:06] <brucelee> TJ-: so all these links are incorrect i guess? or were they using some special cd that I don't know about
[06:06] <brucelee> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=972693
[06:07] <brucelee> i guess they didnt specify 14.04
[06:07] <brucelee> perhaps it doesnt work with 14.04
[06:07] <cfhowlett> brucelee, as i stated earlier: ALTERNATE iso - no longer mader.
[06:07] <cfhowlett> no longer made.
[06:07] <brucelee> i dint really know what you meant by that
[06:08] <cfhowlett> brucelee, the method stated in that longer no longer works..
[06:08] <brucelee> what is this concept of "alternate iso"
[06:08] <redhat_> OerHeks: sudo add-apt-repository ppa:webupd8team/sublime-text-3
[06:08] <TJ-> brucelee: The alternate installer went away unfortunately, the -server variety replaced it for text-based installs, but that doesn't contain the -desktop packages. -desktop's archive only contains a few relatively essential additional packages that may be needed during install.
[06:08] <redhat_> sudo apt-get update
[06:08] <redhat_> sudo apt-get install sublime-text-installer
[06:09] <brucelee> what do you mean by the alternate iso is no longer made, that means an alternate iso used to be made? what is this alternate iso? what is the purpose for the existance of an "alternate" iso... why is it named something so meaningless? :P
[06:09] <cfhowlett> brucelee,  beginning to suspect you're playing games.  Alternate ISO is GONE.  zip, zilch, nada.
[06:10] <cfhowlett> brucelee, so discussion of alternate is a huge waste of space and time.
[06:10] <brucelee> ok... i guess im just trying to understand context. is an alternate iso simply a backup copy of an iso that someone downloads as an alternative to having a normal iso?
[06:10] <brucelee> i mean
[06:10] <cfhowlett> brucelee, if you want a gui, I'd suggest you get a .torrent of whichever ubuntu flavor you prefer.  Once you have the ISO, install it.  then add the server packages you want
[06:11] <OerHeks> redhat_, installs fine here, on trusty 14.04.1
[06:11] <brucelee> yeah it seems now i have to download it from the internet... im fine with that
[06:11] <brucelee> ill just do it tomorrow or something when i dont have to use tether
[06:11] <ZZRMike> If I have two folders on the receiving end of rsync, is there a way I can copy from a single source and ignore the files from dir1 when copying to dir2? Or do I just need to split the files up on the source end and then copy them?
[06:11] <brucelee> what im asking now is unrelated to getting ubuntu-desktop... just simply about alternate iso
[06:12] <cfhowlett> brucelee, as it's obsolete, it's completely off-topic to support.  ask in #ubuntu-offtopic
[06:12] <redhat_> OerHeks: How to get rid off .....
[06:13] <brucelee> cfhowlett: i mean if you dont want to talk about anything thats not the most current then you dont need to talk about it, but it still pertains to ubuntu, its not off topic
[06:13] <brucelee> it could pertain to a lesser version
[06:14] <brucelee> #ubuntu-offtopic is for stuff unrelated to ubuntu
[06:14] <OerHeks> redhat_, you can undo this by: sudo ppa-purge ppa:webupd8team/sublime-text-3
[06:15] <OerHeks> brucelee, alternate was an text based installer with more tools, EOL
[06:15] <TJ-> brucelee: The Alternate images were last published for 12.04
 okay
[06:16] <redhat_> OerHeks:
[06:16] <TJ-> OerHeks: Alternate isn't EOL, it's still part of the 12.04 LTS support
[06:16] <brucelee> ah ok
[06:16] <OerHeks> TJ-, true, but he is working with 14.04 isn't he?
[06:17] <brucelee> cfhowlett: thanks for chiming in to let me know theres no alternate cd for 14.04
[06:19] <redhat_> OerHeks: command not found.
[06:20] <OerHeks> !ppapurge
[06:20] <OerHeks> oh sorry, you need to install it first
[06:23] <redhat_> How ?
[06:24] <testssufsjgsjfg> test
[06:24] <cfhowlett> !test | testssufsjgsjfg,
[06:27] <redhat_> OerHeks: How
[06:27] <redhat_> OerHeks: How ?
[06:27] <nights> so stuck
[06:27] <nights> anyone know nginx well?
[06:28] <cfhowlett> nights, nginx almost certainly has it's own channel.
[06:28] <stoogenmeyer> hello
[06:29] <stoogenmeyer> can somebdy help me with a bash script, i want to be able to iterate over names of folders in the same folder as my script, but i dont want to get the ./ from the folder names
[06:29] <nights> cfhowlett: thats true, thanks
[06:29] <stoogenmeyer> im using this right now for i in $(find ./deps -type d -maxdepth 1)     do         echo $i     done
[06:33] <redhat_> OerHeks: I've install ppa-purge
[06:36] <redhat_> OerHeks: Still facing same problem.
[06:40] <TJ-> stoogenmeyer: " shopt -s dotglob; for p in *; do [ -d "$p" ] && echo $p; done "
[06:46] <stoogenmeyer> TJ-: what does shopt do here? what does dotglob do?
[06:46] <stoogenmeyer> TJ-: Thanks
[06:47] <TJ-> stoogenmeyer: it ensures that "*" will expand files/dir names beginning with the ".", which are otherwise 'hidden' from the shell
[06:51] <gr33n7007h> What the hell's happened to ubuntu?
[06:51] <Guest96370> sus
[06:51] <cfhowlett> !details | gr33n7007h,
[06:52] <gr33n7007h> like the interface?? last time I used ubuntu was 10.04
[06:52] <cfhowlett> gr33n7007h, you can install and use alternate desktop environments quite easily.
[06:52] <ObrienDave> that's called "unity". like  it?
[06:53] <gr33n7007h> whoa I'm not sure yet I'll have to give this some serious thinking
[06:55] <gr33n7007h> going for a test drive in unity
[06:55] <cfhowlett> !ot | gr33n7007h,
[06:55] <trijntje> gr33n7007h, hold the windows key to get an overview of all the shortcuts etc
[06:55] <marsokod_> hello, I made a stupid mistake and I don't know how to fix it. I removed the "Indicator Application" entry in the startup applications box. And now I cannot login with a GUI. How can I put it back through the command line?
[06:56]  * ObrienDave resists snarkyness ;P
[06:56] <marsokod_> I tried putting a .desktop file in .config/autostart but it does nothing
[06:56] <gr33n7007h> trijntje, nice tip :)
[06:56] <gr33n7007h> brb
[06:59] <sancas> marsokod_, if u want to login in type Ctrl + alt + 1 , a full console will be open in ur pc asking for ur user and pass
[06:59] <stoogenmeyer> hey why does this command give me an error: if [ 0 -gt 0]; then echo hello; fi
[06:59] <stoogenmeyer> the error is bash: [: missing `]'
[06:59] <marsokod> sancas, yes I was using that but then I don't know what to do to put the Indicator Application back in the startup
[07:00] <ObrienDave> stoogenmeyer, try: if [ 0 -gt 0]; then echo 'hello'; fi
[07:01] <stoogenmeyer> nope still the same weird error
[07:01] <ObrienDave> shows what i know about scripting LOL
[07:01] <asc232> stoogenmeyer, is : if [ 0 -gt 0 ]; then echo hello; fi
[07:02] <stoogenmeyer> im such a retard, there needs to be a space before the closing ]
[07:02] <stoogenmeyer> thanks
[07:02] <asc232> :)
[07:02] <sancas> marsokod, what did u remove? :s and how?
[07:03] <ObrienDave> sancas, marsokod, removed the "Indicator Application" entry in the startup applications box
[07:04] <marsokod> I removed The Indicator Application entry (which starts /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/indicator-application/indicator-application-service)
[07:05] <Beldar> marsokod, Do a reinstall on the desktop from a chroot.
[07:05] <eeee> marsokod:  what were you trying to do?
[07:05] <sancas> marsokod, just add it again using the start up application box xD
[07:05] <Beldar> my guess
[07:06] <Beldar> marsokod, Did you uncheck or just remove it?
[07:06] <Beldar> or both
[07:07] <marsokod> eeee, Beldar, don't ask me what I wanted to do with that :D, I was just being stupid trying to clean all the things I put in there and removed (not uncheck) one too much
[07:07] <Beldar> marsokod, There not there to begin with, I would think an uncheck is the key
[07:08] <marsokod> I wanted to speed up my laptop, and guess what now it is super fast but I only have the command line
[07:08] <phuh> Is it a good idea to put ssl pem file in /etc/ssl/certs?
[07:08] <phuh> or /etc/ssl/private?
[07:08] <cfhowlett> marsokod, but it's fast ... right?
[07:08] <cfhowlett> phuh, ask ##linux
[07:08] <Beldar> marsokod, than do a reinstall on the desktop
[07:08] <eeee> i think the indicator app is the clock and such stuff, cause i removed vlc and other players from the volume indicator using gsettings
[07:08] <cfhowlett> marsokod, sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[07:09] <sancas> loool
[07:09] <Beldar> sancas, you were telling to just add it with no X.
[07:09] <sancas> marsokod, which is the content of the .desktop u put in autostart?
[07:12] <Beldar> startup is empty to begin with, you have to run a command to fill it.
[07:12] <Beldar> the stuff is already auto starting
[07:12] <marsokod> I copied another one that was generated by the gui. I don't have access to it now but it had Type=Application, a name and an Exec field with /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/indicator-application/indicator-application-service
[07:13] <sancas> marsokod, exec just leave indicator-application-service i think xD
[07:13] <sancas> but it had to work idm
[07:13] <marsokod> what's strange is that by default this indication service is not started with a .desktop file
[07:14] <marsokod> on a fresh ubuntu installation, you don't have any .desktop file in autostart (you don't even have the autostart folder)
[07:15] <marsokod> is there another mechanism to start applications, beside upstart and the autostart?
[07:15] <fansili123> 有中国人没有
[07:15] <fansili123> 新人报道
[07:15] <cfhowlett> !es| fansili123,
[07:16] <cfhowlett> !cn | fansili123
[07:16] <sancas> marsokod, did u give permission to .desktop?
[07:16] <fansili123> 谢谢
[07:16] <ObrienDave> !jp| fansili123,
[07:16] <eeee> marsokod: you could add it to ~/.profile
[07:16] <marsokod> sancas, no,  but I did copy it from another .desktop
[07:16] <cfhowlett> ObrienDave, dude!  It's chinese!  He even said "Thank you."
[07:17] <ObrienDave> cfhowlett, i wouldn't know one from the other ;P
[07:17] <laughingtiger> !bastard
[07:17] <cfhowlett> laughingtiger, check your channel ... !bastard is certainly offtopic here
[07:18] <fansili123> I think i should learn engligh,there aren't chinese
[07:18] <cfhowlett> fansili123, if you can manage in English, state your problem as clearly as possible.
[07:19] <laughingtiger> thank u cfhowlett, I wondered how the ubottu would response to it. lol
[07:19] <marsokod> I have to go, I'll try later today with the optionns you gave me and if not I'll reinstall it (was thinking about doing it anyway before that)
[07:19] <sancas> marsokod, add the lines X-GNOME-Autostart-enabled=true and X-GNOME-Autostart-Delay=0 to the .desktop
[07:19] <marsokod> great advice sancas, I'll try it
[07:20] <marsokod> thank you sancas Beldar cfhowlett eeee
[07:20] <cfhowlett> marsokod2, happy2help
[07:21] <laughingtiger> fansili123, try to join #defocus.
[07:22] <Alexanderrockz> hi
[07:22] <Alexanderrockz> :D
[07:23] <sancas> lol marsokod2 go to sleep xD
[07:37] <laughingtiger> as I recall, this place used to be very lively until my arrival . looks like I'm the death. lol
[07:38] <laughingtiger> I'm the DEATH!
[07:40] <hyde> Hmm, I'm missing windows borders in Ubuntu server 14.04, where I did `apt-get install lubuntu-desktop`
[07:40] <hyde> everything I've found in the net talk about compiz, but I don't have it installed at all
[07:40] <hyde> and I'd rather not (VM)
[07:40] <hyde> can anybody hint at how to fix?
[07:41] <cfhowlett> laughingtiger, you're in the wrong channel for silliness.  Play elsewhere.
[07:41] <laughingtiger> lol
[07:43] <Gaurav_> i have removed ubuntu more than 5 times due to the inability of ubuntu to just install softwares from my pendrive...i have internet in college but internet is very cosly for my home to afford in india..  Now i want the same process as .exe files in windows.. I know .deb are same as .exe but they give dependency error...whats the heck is this ubuntu....  If anyone knows anything like that, plz help me out.. I just have fresh copy of 
[07:43] <cfhowlett> hyde, in Xubuntu: /home/.config/xfce4        resets all DE configurations.  The equivalent Lubuntu file should be /home/.config/lxde        or similar
[07:43] <hyde> cfhowlett: thanks, checking it out
[07:44] <Gaurav_> how to install softwares offline in ubuntu
[07:45] <cfhowlett> Gaurav_, .deb install is NOT recommended as it doesn't install the dependencies.  windows is not ubuntu.   .deb is not .exe.         Your choices: 1. learn the proper method of installation  2. compile from source  3. use windows
[07:45] <ObrienDave> Gaurav_, that is how most Linux packages work. they DEPEND on other packages so a programmer does not have to re-invent things
[07:46] <Gaurav_> then why does they simply put in .deb files all the things it requires
[07:46] <cfhowlett> Gaurav_, "they" are wrong".  .deb doesn't pull depends.
[07:46] <cfhowlett> Gaurav_, http://techspalace.blogspot.com/2009/04/offline-update-ubuntu.html
[07:47] <cfhowlett> Gaurav_, I don't know if this method still works but it used to when I was offline
[07:47] <cfhowlett> http://jeffhoogland.blogspot.com/2010/06/howto-installing-ubuntu-packages.html
[07:48] <Gaurav_> yup this i am aware of, but how to install synaptic package manager in fresh ubuntu 14.04
[07:49] <cfhowlett> Gaurav_, ubuntu software center
[07:50] <staxxx> hello everyone. my desktop got messed up. no icons appear and no window borders and x to close them any help please?
[07:52] <hyde> cfhowlett: didn't help. I removed the whole ~/.config directory, no change. So the defaults must be somehow corrupted.
[07:52] <hyde> (it's a fresh account so removeing the whole .config is no problem)
[07:52] <marandi> hi guys , i use wget to download specific files from server using bash loop , now i wanna know how to make a condition if it dosent found the file in server , exit the the loop , can u help me out ?! http://pastebin.com/5sPauvZm
[07:52] <cfhowlett> hyde, sorry.
[07:53] <staxxx> hello everyone. my desktop got messed up. no icons appear and no window borders and x to close them any help please?
[07:53] <qjqqyy> DE?
[07:53] <Beldar> staxxx, Any clue how?
[07:53] <staxxx> i dunno really i was installing some software and then somehow i got like this
[07:54] <cfhowlett> staxxx, try a different DE as qjqqyy suggested.
[07:54] <staxxx> whats a DE?
[07:54] <cfhowlett> staxxx, desktop environment = look and feel.  default in ubuntu is unity but there are others.
[07:54] <staxxx> when i try a metacity --replace i get a Failed to load theme Ambiance message
[07:54] <staxxx> i'm with ubuntustudio here
[07:55] <staxxx> i tryied logging onto a guest account but the problem remanis
[07:55] <staxxx> remains*
[07:55] <cfhowlett> staxxx, see THOSE little details matter.  anyway, ubuntustudio uses xfce4.          try this: sudo apt-get install lxde.         logout choose lubuntu/lxde session.  login
[07:56] <staxxx> ok I'll do so and then what?
[07:57] <cfhowlett> staxxx, test operations and look.  if it's all good, logout choose xfce4/xubuntu session and login to US.  should reset
[07:57] <hyde> cfhowlett: ok, it was a stupid user error, I had removed openbox, not realizing that is what is actually providing the window decorations in LXDE... I thought it was just a fall-back plain WM. Installing it back solved the issue.
[07:58] <staxxx> whats US
[07:58] <staxxx> ?
[07:59] <cfhowlett> hyde, that there is some good detective work, Lou.
[07:59] <cfhowlett> staxxx      ummm             U buntu  S tudio
[08:02] <staxxx> it worked! its all back thank you so much
[08:05] <cfhowlett> staxx nice work
[08:07] <fansili123> so many people, I'm curious that where are you come from? i'm an Chinese
[08:07] <fansili123> who can tell me
[08:07] <Byron_> philippines
[08:07] <cfhowlett> fansili123, wrong question.  for chitchat of that type: #ubuntu-offtopic
[08:07] <cfhowlett> !kylin | fansili123
[08:08] <fansili123> you are right
[08:10] <fansili123> so many people,so little chats
[08:11] <cfhowlett> !behelpful | fansili123,
[08:13] <fansili123> ok,i'll be quiet
[08:14] <kevin> ??
[08:16] <Guest20797> Here is the English exchange
[08:16] <hyde> fansili123: in case you came here with a problem: another good guideline for topical "technical" channels: do not ask to ask, just ask your question directly, with relevant details (like here with Ubuntu version, if it seems relevant)
[08:17] <Guest20797> But is this seat taken?
[08:18] <MortezaE> Hello. Could i use the same grub entry i used to boot ubuntu10.10 for booting 14.04 ? (i mean maybe it need some new parameter...)
[08:18] <MortezaE> it was linux	/boot/vmlinuz-2.6.35-22-generic root=UUID=0cb11512-feea-4f69-a2bc-6c788fff809d ro   quiet splash
[08:18] <MortezaE> 	initrd	/boot/initrd.img-2.6.35-22-generic
[08:19] <cfhowlett> Guest20797, yes this channel is in English.  Ask your support question
[08:19] <d4rks1d3r> hi guys
[08:19] <hyde> MortezaE: why? ie. how come you are in a situation where you want to copy a grub entry? And is it even same version of grub in 10.10 and 14.04?
[08:20] <cfhowlett> MortezaE, update grub would seem to be wiser than hacking 10.10 to 14.04 entries
[08:21] <d4rks1d3r> i have a question: some time ago i compiled a highly customised kernel for a gentoo dist. Now I want to compile a kernel with the same options for ubuntu
[08:21] <cfhowlett> !kernel | d4rks1d3r
[08:21] <Guest20797> What is there exchangel
[08:22] <cfhowlett> Guest20797, what language do you speak?
[08:22] <d4rks1d3r> i have a backup of the root drive on gentoo. is there a way to compile it using the same options?
[08:22] <Guest20797> everybody is good, there is no chinese
[08:22] <cfhowlett> d4rks1d3r, read the kernel link above?
[08:22] <cfhowlett> !cn | Guest20797
[08:23] <hyde> d4rks1d3r: there's a standard, easy way to transfer configurations between kernels, when compiling sources. I don't remember the exact details, but just saying this in case you were not sure.
[08:24] <geirha> d4rks1d3r: extract the .config file
[08:24] <hyde> d4rks1d3r: or to grab the configuration from a running kernel, and apply it to a source compilation
[08:24] <MortezaE> hyde, cfhowlett during installing 14.04 as a new fresh os, i incorrectly selected my 10.10 partition for grub installation(that itself had grub). now, i see it's grub.cfg intact (i see the same boot menu)
[08:24] <cfhowlett> MortezaE, reinstall grub will fix that
[08:24] <cfhowlett> *reinstall*
[08:24] <cfhowlett> !grub
[08:25] <linuxgeek_> i have a 14.04 kvm host. eth2 is a member of a bridge breth2. in the interfaces file breth2 is set to dhcp.
[08:26] <MortezaE> cfhowlett, you mean grub-install? will it automatically find all OSs?
[08:26] <linuxgeek_> when i do a ifup breth2, the message is repeated "dhcpdiscover on breth2 to 255.255.255.255 port 67" and the bridge is not getting an ip
[08:27] <cfhowlett> MortezaE, read the link.  os probe goes looking for installed OS so ... yes.
[08:27] <MortezaE> OK, Thanks...
[08:27] <kevin_linux> How to get Ubuntu chinese
[08:27] <kevin_linux> ??
[08:28] <cfhowlett> kevin_linux easy way is to install ubuntukylin
[08:28] <cfhowlett> !kylin | kevin_linux
[08:28] <hyde> linuxgeek_: where's the DHCP server running? is it running? is it ok?
[08:29] <kevin_linux> thank you
[08:29] <linuxgeek_> hyde, the dhcp is running ok because the eth2 interface when not bridged get the dhcp ip
[08:30] <anigma> ##programing
[08:30] <hyde> linuxgeek_: ok, then, apart from verifying the configuration is really in use (like by rebooting), no idea what could cause that
[08:31] <hyde> mm, eth2 is up, right?
[08:31] <linuxgeek_> ah, reboot is not an option. this needs to be sorted without a reboot :-/
[08:31] <linuxgeek_> yes eth2 is up
[08:32] <MortezaE> cfhowlett, update-grub helped me in some second... i think i'm kinda ultra geek hehe!
[08:32] <cfhowlett> MortezaE, happy2help
[08:33] <kevin_linux> I would like to ask you how IRC into the ubuntu chinese??
[08:33] <hyde> linuxgeek_: another thing to watch might be the packet counters of eth2 and breth2 (ifconfig), and see how they grow with DHCP packets. might give a hint at just where the problem is
[08:34] <cfhowlett> kevin_linux, google translate is not helping you here.  I THINK you want set your ubuntu to chinese language?
[08:35] <eeee> kevin_linux: type /join #ubuntu-cn
[08:36] <kevin_linux> cfhowlett thank you , what I want is his answer eee
[08:36] <hateball> !cn
[08:36] <eeee> np :)
[08:37] <pam> Hey folks..
[08:37] <pam> Just intalled 10.04 on an old laptop (2003) so my gf could play facebook games and check facebook from time to time..
[08:38] <pam> I tried to install some games via the ubuntu software center...and nothing is happening...
[08:38] <noir_> Hi everybody. I have an acer laptop, I've a problem of overheating. I thought  it was for the intel+nvidia combo card, but deactivating the nvidia card (I  think I did it right) things don't seem to get better. Any hint?
[08:38] <noir_> I once solved but I don't remember how I did, it's been long ago :P
[08:38] <six86> Hello. Is there a way to see "behind the progress bar" in an ubuntu server installation? Problem is that I have a problem with my preseed, but I can't see what's going wrong because it just is stuck on the progress bar.
[08:39] <tarelerulz> I'm thinking of buying a solid state drive for my laptop.   Do any of you have one in a laptop?
[08:40] <pam> I tried to install some games via the ubuntu software center...and nothing is happening...I'm on 10.04
[08:41] <tarelerulz> To old
[08:41] <pam> what?
[08:41] <tarelerulz> 10.04 is old , they might not work because your  system is to old.
[08:42] <pam> I used some of these games when I was running 10.04 on my system no problem.  I would imagine that ubuntu would try to install them at least
[08:42] <OerHeks> tarelerulz, it is not, 10.04 is still supported.
[08:42] <bcvery> !10.04
[08:43] <OerHeks> oh only server
[08:43] <pam> So it won't allow me to download via the software center?
[08:44] <OerHeks> pam, no, unfortunatly, time to upgrade
[08:44] <pam> what version above 10.04 is still supported?
[08:45] <OerHeks> !12.04
[08:45] <tarelerulz> Why do you run such an old version?
[08:46] <pam> because my gf doesn't need anything fancy
[08:46] <six86> Hello. Is there a way to see "behind the progress bar" in an ubuntu server installation? Problem is that I have a problem with my preseed, but I can't see what's going wrong because it just is stuck on the progress bar.
[08:48] <bcvery> six86, you may wish to try #ubuntu-server
[08:48] <OerHeks> six86, try alt-tab?
[08:48] <six86> OerHeks: at least in the vm it doesn't work, have to try on the real isntallation
[08:52] <brontosaurusrex> mpv
[08:56] <hyde> six86: have you tried alt-F2 etc?
[08:57] <hyde> to switch virtual console
[08:57] <bobptz> 12.04 refuses to boot with error:  "Could not write bytes: broken pipes”.  I checked the disks, they are ok.  Here is the dmesg: dmesg: http://paste.ubuntu.com/7964696/.  Can somebody experienced help me please?
[08:59] <sgo11> I am trying to install ubuntu to an usb flash-drive. During installation, I create /dev/sdb1 with ext4 partition and mount it as root /. install grub to /dev/sdb1. anything wrong with this? When I try to boot from this usb, I can see the grub screen is fine, but after I press Enter, it's just a black screen.
[09:00] <hyde> bobptz: that paste does not seem to have that error (and the few errors in it don't seem related or interesting, though I'm not sure what they are)
[09:00] <hyde> ...also, how do you get the dmesg, if it refuses to boot?
[09:01] <bobptz> hyde, you mean the dmesg?  I got it from CLI.  From recovery mode
[09:01] <bobptz> hyde, indeed, the dmesg does not have the error.  I don;t know.  When I try to boot normally, I see it
[09:02] <bobptz> hyde, the dmesg is to check the drivers.  I do not hve the knowledge, but can you see what video drivers it has?
[09:03] <hyde> bobptz: no, sorry. though if you're at text mode recovery console, I don't think any X video drivers have been loaded yet
[09:04] <hyde> bobptz: if it does not hang completely, then try alt-F1 (or ctrl-alt-F1 from GUI) to get to text mode console after normal boot.
[09:04] <hyde> bobptz: then look in /var/log directory
[09:05] <hyde> bobptz: in particular. Xorg.0.log might be useful it if is GUI problem only
[09:05] <sgo11> I think I need to install grub to /dev/sdb instead of /dev/sdb1. that might be the problem. let me try it again.
[09:05] <bobptz> hyde, I remember I searched for it and I could not find it
[09:06] <bobptz> hyde, I mean the Xorg.0.log
[09:08] <test23233> hello
[09:09] <bobptz> hyde, can I also try a normal boot, and if it hangs completely, then I can boot from live cd, and then I can go to the hdd and find the files you said?
[09:14] <chewbecca> ciao a tutti
[09:20] <d4rks1d3r> the instructions for compiling a kernel ar for up to ver 13
[09:20] <d4rks1d3r> i have ver 14, do they apply?
[09:22] <chewbecca> !list
[09:29] <noir_> sup guys, where can I read source code of common commands like mkdir?
[09:33] <Theory> noir_:  dpkg-query -S /bin/mkdir will tell you what package it is from
[09:33] <Theory> then google will find you the source :-)
[09:47] <edition> i have a presentation made in libreoffice, that will not display properly in MS Office
[09:47] <edition> How can I show my presentation on Windows?
[09:48] <d4rks1d3r> edition: install libreoffice in windows
[09:48] <hateball> edition: What versions of each are you using? And what file format? The question might get a better response in #libreoffice also
[09:48] <edition> another persons computer :)
[09:49] <edition> i don't think they would allow that
[09:49] <qjqqyy> portable edition
[09:50] <qjqqyy> ow he left...
[09:54] <d4rks1d3r> what does SYSTEM_TRUSTED_KEYRING mean?
[10:00] <jakob2> Buying a new computer, is nvidia or ATI prefered theese days? What works best?
[10:02] <hyde> jakob2: I don't know the answer either way, but it probably depends on if you are ok with proprietary drivers, or if you want open source ones.
[10:04] <jakob2> hyde: I'm guessing the free drivers are missing features? Free drivers are prefered of course, but not if they perform worse than proprietary
[10:04] <hyde> Theory: (noir seems to be gone), to get the source of the package, `apt-get source package` is better than searching the web. that will give you the sources of the binary you are actually using.
[10:04] <Walex> jakob2: I get pretty good overall performance in TF2 with the free drivers on an ATi 7850. But the kernel must be at least 3.13 or newer
[10:05] <jakob2> Walex: I'm on 3.15 so that's fine :)
[10:05] <jakob2> Walex: does ATI still have that icky catalyst control program?
[10:06] <hyde> jakob2: one thing to consider is, do you want the latest and greatest (which might require proprietary drivers to advantage off), or are you ok with an older card (which might have good support in OSS drivers too)
[10:06] <Walex> jakob2: yes but the GNU/Linux package does not use it.
[10:07] <jakob2> hyde: I'm fine with an older card, I'm just planning to play some minecraft every now and then if I'm in the mood
[10:07] <jakob2> I'm no gamer
[10:07] <l337> hi there, can anyone please help me install SSL on Ubuntu 12.04LTS?
[10:08] <jakob2> hyde: is there a specific old and stable card that i should go for?
[10:08] <hyde> jakob2: then I'd probably go with whatever has better OSS support, since those will keep getting better, while with proprietary drivers you might be in trouble (ie. need to tweak stuff) after next big distro update.
[10:08] <jakob2> right
[10:08] <hyde> and my possibly outdated/wrong understanding is, ATI has better OSS drivers.
[10:08] <jakob2> which is ATI?
[10:08] <jakob2> hyde: alright thanks
[10:08] <hyde> mm, AMD
[10:09] <jakob2> AMD it is
[10:09] <l337> anyone? :(
[10:10] <pilatus> guys what is the most recent AMD radeons currently supported by catalyst for linux? I will buy one at Wal-Mart next time
[10:10] <jakob2> l337: sudo apt-get install openssl
[10:11] <hyde> l337: generally, don't ask to ask, just ask about your actual problem. "install SSL" does not really mean anything. SSL is a protocol, an abstract thing (or a specification document).
[10:12] <hyde> if you don't know the right terminology, then you can ask how to do whatever it is you want to do (with SSL in this case, I presume)
[10:12] <l337> jakob2, hyde, thanks for the replies. well, I have the certificates from an SSL authority and I wonder about how do I install them
[10:12] <jakob2> l337: for what? A web server?
[10:12] <l337> jakob2: yes
[10:12] <jakob2> l337: which one? Apache? Nginx?
[10:12] <l337> sorry, am quite a newb
[10:12] <l337> fuck knows, actually
[10:13] <jakob2> :P
[10:13] <l337> I've got ZPanel installed on Ubuntu
[10:13] <Walex> l337: ironic coonsidering your nickname :-)
[10:13] <l337> yeah
[10:13] <OerHeks> https://help.ubuntu.com/14.04/serverguide/certificates-and-security.html
[10:13] <jakob2> l337: did you follow a tutorial?
[10:13] <l337> I've put it like this exactly from that perspective :P
[10:13] <l337> jakob2: yes, a few
[10:13] <jakob2> oh
[10:13] <l337> and it didn't work everytime
[10:13] <jakob2> for zpanel
[10:14] <jakob2> can you link it?
[10:14] <l337> the thing is, I'm trying to "migrate" a SSL from my old hosting to a VPS I've purchased
[10:14] <jakob2> or maybe just visist http://127.0.0.1/eragfaerg and look at the error page
[10:14] <l337> and if I understood correctly, as long as the domain name remains the same, I can do it
[10:14] <jakob2> is it apache or nginx?
[10:14] <jakob2> or lighttpd mayhaps?
[10:14] <jakob2> yes you can!
[10:14] <l337> jakob2: Apache/2.2.22 (Ubuntu) PHP/5.3.10-1ubuntu3.13 with Suhosin-Patch Server at vapeboy.co.uk Port 80
[10:14] <Hopeness> So many people
[10:14] <jakob2> there you go, apache it is
[10:15] <jakob2> http://www.digicert.com/ssl-certificate-installation-apache.htm
[10:15] <jakob2> l337: let me know if you get stuck
[10:15] <l337> thanks so much, will give that a try
[10:15] <l337> and get back to you
[10:15] <l337> \o/
[10:18] <john_rambo> I am using Gmail under Claws Mail client .....I am getting this evry now and then http://imagebin.ca/v/1Vzk5Oa4VEnG ..... I got this 3 time within 5 minutes ....Is this norma ?
[10:19] <john_rambo> normal ?*
[10:20] <l337> jakob2: a quick question, do I copy the private key from the old host as well?
[10:24] <jakob2> l337: yes
[10:24] <jakob2> l337: sorry for slow response, copy all the files!
[10:24] <jakob2> the cert and private key
[10:25] <jakob2> I have one .cert and one .key
[10:26] <sciarpa> salve
[10:26] <tarelerulz> What is the different from installing Ubuntu  on  sd card and  putting the files from an Ubuntu installer cd on the sd card?
[10:28] <bobptz> hyde,  I did what you said.  I opened the syslog and the dmesg file.  I could not find the error, although I had just seen it on screen.  Also I could not find the Xorg.0.log file.  I tried to make a copy of the /var/log directory.  Do you want me to upload a file for checking?
[10:29] <l337> jakob2: mind if I pm you?
[10:31] <jakob2> l337: It's better to type in public, then I'll be corrected if I'm wrong
[10:31] <l337> the questions are just plain stupid
[10:31] <jakob2> go ahead
[10:31] <jakob2> just ask, don't worry :P
[10:32] <l337> I've found two config files in /etc/apache2: httpd.conf (empty) and apache2.conf
[10:32] <l337> which one should I edit?
[10:32] <l337> I presume the non-empty one
[10:32] <jakob2> Uhmm I'm not sure, don't you have a virtualhost somewhere? It's been a while since i confed apache
[10:32] <jakob2> I just use nginx nowadays
[10:34] <bigbrovar> Hi guys.. getting bluetooth headset to work in a2dp mode stopped working (after I applied some updates on ubuntu 14.04) when I try to enable a2dp more in sound settings I get this error http://paste.ubuntu.com/7978594/
[10:35] <bigbrovar> so what I get now is sound in mono
[10:35] <ice9> is xorg now started using normal user not root?
[10:37] <bobptz> hyde, have you seen my message?
[10:38] <bigbrovar> maybe I should do a reinstall?
[10:40] <rasputin> moi
[10:40] <rasputin> hi
[10:40] <rasputin> mooi
[10:40] <rasputin> hello
[10:41] <bigbrovar> anyone having problems enabling a2dp on their bluetooth headset? when I try I get this error http://paste.ubuntu.com/7978594/
[10:41] <rasputin> lol idk
[10:42] <bigbrovar> guess I should file a bug then
[10:44] <Shadow}}> Is there a line to download an Audio CD burner? For MP3.
[10:45] <bigbrovar> the other day I can't burn an audio cd with brasero.. now a2dp which use to work just stopped working forcing me to listen to coldplay in mono.. It can be frustrating when I spend more time away from serious Linux server related work to fix simple problems on a deskop OS
[10:45] <Shadow}}> Such as k3b or brasao(Something of the spelling). Idk if either is free though... Need a free one..
[11:10] <Kevin_Linux> /help
[11:12] <cfhowlett> Kevin_Linux, protocol for support: STATE THE ISSUE!
[11:12] <cfhowlett> !details
[11:14] <Kevin_Linux> cfhowlett:??
[11:14] <cfhowlett> Kevin_Linux, no tell the problem = no help offered
[11:15] <ObrienDave> !ask | Kevin_Linux
[11:17] <Kevin_Linux> Thank you, I am the novice to learn, thank you to give me guidance
[11:18] <cfhowlett> !manual | Kevin_Linux, read this.
[11:18] <rohdef> Kevin_Linux, everyone is novices just at different levels
[11:20] <kurono_> hey everyone! i have a problem: i cannot shutdown my system without switching off from hand.
[11:20] <Kevin_Linux> I began to use the Linux mint to know IRC can communicate, so come in, oh, thank you, I'm in using mobile phone client now, to become familiar with the environment, in order to learn, thank you care about,,
[11:21]  * cfhowlett is beginning to hate google translate
[11:21] <cfhowlett> Kevin_Linux, did you try #ubuntu-cn          ?  Chinese language support
[11:26] <Kevin_Linux> Cfhowlett: thank you for your kind, but I feel better with a little mint,
[11:26] <cfhowlett> Kevin_Linux, mint is not supported here.  sorry.
[11:26] <cfhowlett> !mint | Kevin_Linux
[11:27] <sangdrax> Is there a new ubuntu openssl package to address the security advisories released on the 6th?  I know openssl version 1.0.1i fixes most of them, but I don't know what version that translates to in ubuntu
[11:28] <cfhowlett> !heartbleed
[11:28] <Kevin_Linux> thank you ubottu
[11:29] <sangdrax> the CVE's released on the 6th aren't heartbleed, I have updated to fix that already.
[11:29] <sangdrax> https://www.openssl.org/news/secadv_20140806.txt
[11:41] <lore_> .
[11:43] <Malsasa_> Hello, can somebody tell me forum rules when no one permitted to answer badly such as advicing fork bomb or rm -rf /? I have googled, searching on ubuntuforums.org, but no luck. I need to read that post to warn myself and my friends. Thank you.
[11:44] <cfhowlett> !danger
[11:44] <juniour> hi i wan to run a script at boot but its not working any help here
[11:44] <cfhowlett> Malsasa, that is the *m *f trigger
[11:45] <cfhowlett> Malsasa, I believe that maliciously suggesting said command is a violation of guidelines and should result in a permban
[11:45] <ObrienDave> Malsasa, IRC Guidelines: http://ubottu.com/y/gl
[11:45] <juniour> i kept my script in /etc/init.d/ dir  chmod 755 my_script and update-rc.d my_script defaults
[11:45] <juniour> but not working
[11:46] <Malsasa> cfhowlett: thank you but I am searching for ubuntuforums rules page about that. Do you have the link? The main rules I have, but the fork bomb-like rules no. I need the page mentioned you can't give fork bomb advice to someone.
[11:46] <cfhowlett> Malsasa, uknown
[11:46] <cfhowlett> unknown
[11:47] <cfhowlett> however see the forum use guidelines ... should be there
[11:47] <Malsasa> cfhowlett: i remember, some years ago i have read such page on ubuntuforums. It is veru good, remind all members NOT to give bad advices.
[11:47] <juniour> ??
[11:48] <Malsasa> cfhowlett: yes I have, but no explanation about fork bomb and r* -r* / there.
[11:48] <cfhowlett> Malsasa, submit a query to the forum mods
[11:49] <Malsasa> cfhowlett: hmmm, thank you but I don't want to bother them. Them all are busy, right?
[11:49] <cfhowlett> Malsasa, way less busy the IRC ops
[11:50] <rajmahendra> I am using Ubuntu 13.10 and first time installed Skype  when ever i connect i am getting "Skype can't connect"  i tried to login in skype.com i can login ... any one help me ?
[11:51] <llutz> Malsasa: CoC point "Take responsibility for our words and our actions" covers that  i'd guess
[11:51] <cfhowlett> Malsasa, this ^^^^
[11:52] <Malsasa> llutz: yes, but I ever see a page with so many explanations about many bad advices. I need that.
[11:52] <llutz> rajmahendra: hasn't skype banned old versions last week?
[11:52] <Hopeness> Hello
[11:52] <rajmahendra> Really ?!
[11:52] <rajmahendra> how can i use skype then !?
[11:52] <cfhowlett> rajmahendra, update to the newest version
[11:53] <rajmahendra> any other skype client ?
[11:53] <cfhowlett> llutz, source?
[11:53]  * aeyesi whispers
[11:53] <cfhowlett> rajmahendra, the version in repos works
[11:53] <aeyesi> anyone know how to 5.1 ?
[11:53] <rajmahendra> it says Skype 4.2 for linux
[11:53] <llutz> cfhowlett: some german news-sites refering to http://blogs.skype.com/2014/06/20/making-way-for-the-next-generation-of-skype-on-desktop/
[11:54] <rajmahendra> i tried update adn uptrade
[11:54] <sakamop> aeyesi: context! 5.1 surround sound? some other 5.1?
[11:54] <aeyesi> yeah
[11:54] <cfhowlett> rajmahendra, nope.  sudo apt-get dist-upgrade    should get it
[11:54] <aeyesi> ubuntu uses alsa by default right?
[11:54] <OerHeks> rajmahendra, you need to upgrade, 4.2 is banned from their servers.
[11:55] <rajmahendra> sudo apt-get dist-upgrade  will upgrade ubuntu to 14 right ?
[11:55] <OerHeks> no
[11:55] <cfhowlett> rajmahendra, no it will not
[11:56] <cfhowlett> rajmahendra, apt-get do-release-upgrade will get the latest ubuntu.  dist-upgrade will upgrade the currently installed distro: 14.04   >>> 14.04.1
[11:57] <rajmahendra> cfhowlett, dist-upgrade  show following    Building dependency tree
[11:57] <rajmahendra> Reading state information... Done
[11:57] <rajmahendra> Calculating upgrade... Done
[11:57] <rajmahendra> 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
[11:57] <llutz> cfhowlett: "do-release-upgrade" is a script/program, not an apt-option
[11:57] <cfhowlett> llutz, doh.  right.
[11:57] <Malsasa> cfhowlett: OerHeks: llutz: sirs, i've found it http://ubuntuforums.org/announcement.php?f=326 from ubuntuforums > New to Ubuntu > Announcements.
[11:58] <rajmahendra> cfhowlett,  no update is found for skype using dist-upgrade
[11:58] <cfhowlett> rajmahendra, run this command      cat /etc/issue
[11:59] <Malsasa> cfhowlett: OerHeks: llutz: sirs, thank you.
[11:59] <rajmahendra> cfhowlett, Ubuntu 13.10 \n \l
[11:59] <cfhowlett> Malsasa, happy2help
[12:00] <Malsasa> cfhowlett: I've bookmarked it and I don't want it to gone again.
[12:00] <Malsasa> Sorry for my English.
[12:03] <rajmahendra> cfhowlett, Ubuntu 13.10 \n \l
[12:03] <rajmahendra>    is look same
[12:04] <cfhowlett> !13.10
[12:04] <cfhowlett> rajmahendra, see above - no longer supported.  time to upgrade
[12:05] <rajmahendra> cfhowlett, better to upgrade ubuntu ? i am gettign some issue in 14 so i moved back to 13
[12:05] <www> heloo
[12:05] <cfhowlett> rajmahendra, 13.10 is not supported ... no security.  choose your poison
[12:05] <www> alo
[12:06] <cfhowlett> www greetings.  state your problem
[12:06] <rajmahendra> cfhowlett, hmmmm :(
[12:06] <stangeland> is it possible to devise a command which will run recursively through a filestructure and calculate how much MB is used on different types of files?
[12:06] <cfhowlett> rajmahendra, choices choices.
[12:07] <marianne_> hi there! I'm on the ubuntu site and looking at the 14.04 LTS download.... can someone please provide the link to the known issues page?
[12:07] <aeyesi> there should be none but u never know... marianne
[12:08] <rajmahendra> cfhowlett, is there any client support connecting to skype ? :)
[12:09] <marianne_> aeyesi: then I guess my next question is... I'm on 12.04, do I have to go to 13.10 and then just upgrade, or can I install over the top?
[12:09] <cfhowlett>  rajmahendra you'd have to ask skype.  I'd say running an unsecured, unsupported OS ... skype is the least of your issues.
[12:09] <cfhowlett> !ekiga
[12:09] <Atlantic777> Hello! On a laptop we have problems with sound playback. Everything worked fine until regular update. After that, sound just died. Mic works ok, but speakers (or headphones) simple don't. speaker-test didn't help. alsamixer says that everything's fine, it's not muted. Any ideas how to debug?
[12:09] <rajmahendra> cfhowlett, that is very true :)
[12:10] <cfhowlett> marianne_, 12.04 is a long term support release as is 14.04    direct upgrade is available for LTS > LTS
[12:11] <cfhowlett> !skype
[12:12] <llutz> stangeland: like (single filetype):   ls -lrt dir-struct/*.filetype | awk '{ total += $5 }; END { print total }'
[12:12] <cfhowlett> marianne   https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TrustyTahr/ReleaseNotes#Known_issues
[12:13] <llutz> well, extensions, not necessarily filetypes
[12:13] <marianne_> cfhowlett: Just checked my software updater and it's not showing yet, and yes, I verified my settings
[12:13] <stangeland> llutz, mmm ok...isnt there some way to automatically discover all filetypes in the dir structure and do a calculation for each?
[12:14] <llutz> stangeland: idk
[12:14] <l337> hey guys, I'm having trouble restarting apache2: Syntax error on line 85 of /etc/zpanel/configs/apache/httpd-vhosts.conf
[12:14] <l337> 85: ScriptAlias /cgi-bin/ "/_cgi-bin/"^M
[12:14] <l337> what could be the issue?
[12:14] <cfhowlett> marianne_, check your software sources : enable LTS only
[12:15] <jeffreylevesque> when I close the lid of my laptop Ubuntu 14.04 goes to sleep.  When I open the lid, the screen is frozen, and I cannot even type my login password.  Is this a known issue?
[12:15] <cfhowlett> marianne_, then run a terminal       sudo do-release-upgrade -p
[12:20] <marianne_> cfhowlett: hummm....it has been verified that you can actually upgrade from 12.04 to 14.04? yes I'm paranoid
[12:21] <llutz> l337: use "dos2unix /etc/zpanel/configs/apache/httpd-vhosts.con"
[12:21] <cfhowlett> marianne_, verified.  yes.  LTS has always had that capability.  although IMHO you're better off torrenting the ISO and doing a clean install.  (Free advice and worth every penny you paid.)
[12:21] <llutz> l337: use "dos2unix /etc/zpanel/configs/apache/httpd-vhosts.conf"  your file contains msdos lineendings
[12:24] <marianne_> cfhowlett: iso just finished downloading.... it's just painful to set it all up again after doing a clean install
[12:24] <cfhowlett> !md5sum | marianne_, verify the IS and the USB
[12:24] <DS-McGuire> 13:15 <DS-McGuire> I think I am being a bit stupid but... I can't figure out how to join the mailing list for Ubuntu-docs! Can somebody help?
[12:24] <noir_> Hi guys. In a pretty fresh install I have some font rendering problems in the  browser. For example, check this screen.  http://hostimage.webjapt.com/images/screenftf.png how could I solve?
[12:25] <cfhowlett> marianne_, also, you might find it helpful to make a dedicated /home     when you install, DO NOT FORMAT /home
[12:25] <cfhowlett> marianne_, actually make home BEFORE you install.  move the current home to dedicated /home
[12:26] <marianne_> cfhowlett: good idea, probably move most stuff to the Mac first, just in case
[12:26] <cfhowlett> marianne_, either way, backup ^2
[12:27] <marianne_> cfhowlett: oh yeah.... learned that the hard way years and years ago
[12:28] <marianne_> cfhowlett: I'm also big into RTFMing first so I know what I'm getting into
[12:28] <OerHeks> DS-McGuire, https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-doc
[12:29] <cfhowlett> marianne_, my god!  you *choke* READ?!  around here, you're like a ... a unicorn!  I've heard of this, but never actually met an ubuntero who RTFM's!
[12:30]  * ObrienDave detects snarkyness ;P
[12:30] <marianne_> cfhowlett: lol, be nice, we are all odd in our own little ways
[12:30] <cfhowlett> marianne_, trust me, those comments are intended to be compliments!
[12:31] <ObrienDave> marianne_, i concur
[12:31] <xcscs> why all the folders in the /proc have the same content ?
[12:31] <marianne_> cfhowlett: and they were taken as such....it's just I've hosed things so many times and found out later it was a known issue
[12:31] <cfhowlett> marianne_, anyway, you're doing LTS > LTS at the right time, imho.  the first point release just came out a couple of weeks ago.  Dont know why the online updater doesn't work
[12:31] <llutz> xcscs: http://www.tldp.org/LDP/Linux-Filesystem-Hierarchy/html/proc.html
[12:31] <xcscs> thnks
[12:32] <ObrienDave> i heard there was a bug somewhere in the updater that has the point release on hold. don't quote me
[12:32] <cfhowlett> marianne_, note what apps you've added, note your FF plugins, passwords, etc.  then go for it.  I only do LTS so the first upgrade in 2 years felt nice.  I'm on Ubuntu Studio so I can't speak in detail about ubuntu, but come here for any assistance you might need.
[12:33] <marianne_> cfhowlett: that's why I was asking, I knew it was released, but nothing was showing up... probably spend the next few days reading and then tackle it on the weekend
[12:33] <ObrienDave> marianne_, the ISO works fine
[12:33] <marianne_> cfhowlett: all you guys here have been very helpful in the past
[12:33] <cfhowlett> marianne_, that is so much preparation and staged planning --- it'll pay off.  Users like you don't show up as they've don't their homework.
[12:34] <cfhowlett> *done*
[12:34] <cfhowlett> marianne_, happy2help
[12:35] <marianne_> cfhowlett: ok, I haven't read anything yet... still on the firewall change call for work, but I'm wondering if the ISO has an upgrade option
[12:35] <cfhowlett> marianne_, nope.
[12:36] <emx> how do i make a clean ubuntu install? what i have: running 12.04 (which i don't want to upgrade) and another distro on a different partition.
[12:36] <cfhowlett> marianne_, the usb will offer "try ubuntu" or "install ubuntu"
[12:36] <cfhowlett> emx, partition some space, install ubuntu to that partition.
[12:36] <emx> cfhowlett, no space left for that
[12:37] <marianne_> cfhowlett: probably go the terminal route then and have the iso on had in case I hose it all
[12:37] <cfhowlett> emx, ??? then you need to overwrite one of your existing OS?
[12:37] <cfhowlett> marianne_, that'll work
[12:37] <eeee> emx: you want to replace 12.04 with 14.04.1 ?
[12:38] <marianne_> eeee: yuppers
[12:38] <emx> cfhowlett, yes, which would be 12.04. what i don't know: can i overwrite the current installation.
[12:38] <emx> eeee, yes
[12:38] <emx> without upgrade
[12:38] <emx> clean install
[12:38] <emx> i guess bootable usb drive is the option?
[12:38] <cfhowlett> emx, yes.  select the 12.04 part as your 14.04 installation target.  format it that partition.  do NOT format your /home partition
[12:39] <cfhowlett> !md5sum|emx, yep, usb.  verify the ISO and the USB
[12:39] <emx> cfhowlett, i got a backup of those files
[12:39] <eeee> emx: install via live usb, and in the "something else" option, check the box that says "format" for whatever partitions you have (except the efi one of course)
[12:39] <cfhowlett> emx, make 2 backups
[12:39] <Alexanderrockz_> yo
[12:39] <eeee> (of course if you dont have anything you want on it anymore in the home directory)
[12:39] <cfhowlett> Alexanderrockz_, ask your ubuntu question
[12:40] <glcheetham> Hi any other guys in UK having slow apt-get update? I posted a question on the ubuntu forums here: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2238327 about it
[12:40] <Alexanderrockz_> my ubuntu lags like crazy
[12:40] <cfhowlett> glcheetham, don't know but your software source utility will test for the fastest mirro
[12:40] <cfhowlett> mirror
[12:42] <glcheetham> It's still giving me grief, been like this for a couple of days now
[12:42] <glcheetham> But my ubuntu server updates super quickly
[12:42] <noir_> Hi guys. In a pretty fresh install I have some font rendering problems in the
[12:42] <noir_> browser. For example, check this screen.
[12:42] <noir_> http://hostimage.webjapt.com/images/screenftf.png
[12:42] <glcheetham> updates repos, that is
[12:42] <cfhowlett> glcheetham, did you localize your mirrors?
[12:43] <Alexanderrockz_> can someone help me
[12:43] <eeee_> Alexanderrockz_: shoot
[12:43] <Alexanderrockz_> my ubuntu wont stop  lagging
[12:43] <glcheetham> Yeah, Software and Updates > Download From > United Kingdom main server
[12:44] <Yevgeny> I have with PXE booting
[12:44] <eeee_> Alexanderrockz_: type top in the terminal, see if anything is consuming alot of resources
[12:44] <Alexanderrockz_> ok
[12:44] <cfhowlett> glcheetham, that's the default.  run the test option ... might surprise you.
[12:44] <Yevgeny> I get an error message PXE-E51
[12:44] <emx> eeee, cfhowlett, thanks
[12:44] <eeee_> np
[12:44] <cfhowlett> emx, happy2help
[12:44] <Yevgeny> no DHCP or proxyDHCP offers recieved
[12:45] <Yevgeny> but when I start windows n the pc I get an IP adress
[12:46] <Yevgeny> Anyone know much about PXE boot?
[12:47] <Yevgeny> I get the error messag: no dhcp or proxydhcp offers recieved
[12:47] <cfhowlett> !pxe
[12:47] <sakamop> glcheetham: You can manually choose a mirror to use. I do not think your problem is the UK mirror per see; it might be your ISP
[12:47] <emx> Yevgeny, sounds like you got no dhcp server
[12:47] <Alexanderrockz_> pings thse days
[12:47] <Alexanderrockz_> lol
[12:48] <Yevgeny> well I have a dhcp server
[12:48] <cfhowlett> Yevgeny, #ubuntu-server or ##linux would know more, I suspect
[12:48] <Yevgeny> when i start windows or linux on the pc I get an IP adress
[12:48] <Yevgeny> no problem there
[12:48] <glcheetham> The auto select server decided that it couldn't find a good one to use
[12:48] <Yevgeny> there's some kind of connection error between the pxe server and the pc
[12:48] <Yevgeny> cfhowlett: thanks
[12:48] <Alexanderrockz_> also, whats compiz
[12:49] <Alexanderrockz_> i'm new to ubuntu
[12:49] <Alexanderrockz_> so
[12:49] <cfhowlett> Alexanderrockz_, one problem at a time ...
[12:50] <Alexanderrockz_> ok lol
[12:50] <glcheetham> I'm pretty sure compiz is a compositing window manager
[12:51] <glcheetham> Mutter does the same thing
[12:51] <sakamop> Alexanderrockz_: Can I sk what you mean by "ubuntu is lagging". Do you mean the desktop is slow to respond , or do you have network latency?
[12:51] <Alexanderrockz_> umm
[12:52] <Alexanderrockz_> desktop's slow
[12:52] <cfhowlett> Alexanderrockz_, ubuntu uses unity as the desktop environment - a bit of a memory hog.  test a different DE
[12:53] <Alexanderrockz_> ok
[12:53] <sakamop> Alexanderrockz_: Ah OK. Has it always been that way or is this a change?
[12:53] <kostkon> Alexanderrockz_, what's your graphics card
[12:53] <Alexanderrockz_> umm
[12:54] <eeee_> u can't umm that dude.. you get an umm for kostkon's Q though
[12:54] <eeee_> :D
[12:54] <Alexanderrockz_> lol
[12:55] <Alexanderrockz_> anyhoo
[12:55] <sakamop> Alexanderrockz_: If it worked before and not now, something broke. If it's always been that way, it could be configuration or using Unity on a low end machine. More information is required.
[12:55] <Alexanderrockz_> graphics card information is intel celeron @1.80GHz
[12:56] <cfhowlett> Alexanderrockz_, and your ram?
[12:56] <eeee_> Alexanderrockz_: did it run fine before?
[12:56] <Alexanderrockz_> 4.00 gb
[12:56] <Alexanderrockz_> yea
[12:56] <eeee_> ok, you're in luck then :D
[12:56] <Alexanderrockz_> yay
[12:57] <sakamop> Ubuntu really needs something like DXDiag.
[12:57] <cfhowlett> Alexanderrockz_, celeron?  I'm guessing you've got some - "legacy" hardware.  try this:  sudo apt-get install lxde                    logout/choose lxde session, login
[12:57] <Alexanderrockz_> ok
[12:57] <Pici> sakamop: perhaps you were looking for lshw?
[12:57] <sakamop> Pici: It's not as complete.
[12:58] <sakamop> Pici: It doen't have driver versions, etc.
[12:58] <eeee_> Alexanderrockz_: what are you using for the graphics driver?
[12:59] <eeee_> (go to dash > drivers)
[12:59] <Alexanderrockz_> ok
[13:00] <glcheetham> guy on the ubuntu forums told me that my apt-get update is trying to connect to the wrong ip address to get to the mirror. I think it's got something to do with the fact that I tried setting a proxy. How do I fix this?
[13:01] <cfhowlett> glcheetham, find your proxy tutorial and reverse it
[13:01] <cfhowlett> !proxy
[13:01] <Pici> hrm.. thats less than helpful.
[13:01] <mjayk> glcheetham: are you currently using a proxy / how did you set he proxy up
[13:01] <cfhowlett> glcheetham, sorry that's not it
[13:01] <glcheetham> I set the proxy through the gui, network > proxy settings, and it is not currently in use
[13:02] <sakamop> BTW Intel Celerons aren't legacy, they are still in production. They are entry level chips though.
[13:02] <mjayk> glcheetham: if its not currently in use then it shouldn't be a problem, can you link to your forum post?
[13:02] <Alexanderrockz_> i got hundreds of 404 not found when i ran the sudo command
[13:02] <glcheetham> Here ya go http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2238327
[13:02] <eeee_> Alexanderrockz_: is this an old system you haven't used in a long time?
[13:02] <cfhowlett> Alexanderrockz_, sudo apt-get update
[13:03] <linux> hello all
[13:03] <linux> I've an issue make and make install "wordfield"
[13:04] <linux> reference to `gzopen'
[13:06] <Alexanderrockz_> it still errors me
[13:06] <linux1622> about installing wordfield?
[13:06] <cfhowlett> Alexanderrockz_, what does        cat /etc/issue              show you
[13:06] <eeee_> Alexanderrockz_: which ubuntu release is this?
[13:06] <linux1622> let me check
[13:06] <mjayk> glcheetham: im confused that IP address that you are trying to connect to looks like a digitalocean server in singapore
[13:06] <Alexanderrockz_> umm
[13:06] <Alexanderrockz_> 1 at a time lol
[13:06] <linux1622> only this ... Ubuntu 14.04.1 LTS \n \l
[13:06] <cfhowlett> Alexanderrockz_, cat /etc/issue
[13:07] <Alexanderrockz_> btw 12.10
[13:07] <eeee_> it's the same question, do as cfhowlett suggested
[13:07] <cfhowlett> Alexanderrockz_, there it is.  12.10 is no longer supported so ... no updates
[13:07] <mjayk> glcheetham: if you go to archive.ubuntu.com in your browser  does that work ?
[13:07] <cfhowlett> Alexanderrockz_, 12.04 is supported fro about 2 more years.  14.04 for 5 years.  install one or the other
[13:07] <Alexanderrockz_> aww
[13:08] <Alexanderrockz_> ok
[13:08] <eeee_> Alexanderrockz_: do you intend to upgrade?
[13:08] <glcheetham> Archive.ubuntu.com works in browser, I can connect to the internet otherwise fine, and the proxy is not longer in use or needs to be in use
[13:08] <Alexanderrockz_> i guess
[13:08] <linux1622> anyone?
[13:08] <glcheetham> And a digitalocean server in singapore... lol :-)
[13:08] <mjayk> glcheetham: have you messed with your dns settings?
[13:08] <cfhowlett> !patience | linux1622,
[13:09] <djo_> opaaa
[13:09] <eeee_> k, updating the graphics drivers might fix the lag
[13:09] <djo_> imali bg tuka
[13:09] <eeee_> ( Alexanderrockz_  )
[13:09] <cfhowlett> djo_, ???? English?
[13:09] <linux1622> ok thank you
[13:09] <Alexanderrockz_> ?
[13:09] <djo_> sorry
[13:09] <djo_> i have a question
[13:09] <cfhowlett> djo_, ask your ubuntu question
[13:09] <djo_> y
[13:10] <djo_> how to activate my AGP
[13:10] <glcheetham> Just to let everyone know, I have fixed my problem. Very much thank you for hinting about DNS mjayk
[13:10] <cfhowlett> djo_, AGP????
[13:10] <cfhowlett> !cookie|mjayk,
[13:10] <djo_> i thinck this is my video cart
[13:11] <gulzar> Ubuntu 14.04 is stuch at "will now halt" at every shutdown. Though it reboots properly
[13:12] <djo_> some on?
[13:12] <cfhowlett> !details | djo_,
[13:13] <mjayk> gulzar: you are shuting down via terminal ?
[13:13] <gulzar> mjayk: tried GUI and terminal both
[13:13] <djo_> no idea
[13:13] <eeee_> djo_: are you trying to use a program with the graphics card?
[13:13] <djo_> when i try to play something
[13:13] <gulzar> mjayk: anyting to do with nvidia?
[13:13] <dwayne> I have an Ubuntu 12.04.5 LTS installation that never fully shuts down as well
[13:14] <djo_> y
[13:14] <djo_> envidia
[13:14] <mjayk> gulzar: sounds like when you do it via terminal you dont specify a time but if same happens in gui i dont know sorry
[13:14] <dwayne> I've tried using the UI and even "sync; sync; init 0"
[13:14] <andlabs> Hi. Is there a PPA that comes with xutils-dev 1.8? The current version, 1.7, won't work for some things I am trying to build .Thanks.
[13:14] <gulzar> mjayk: I use "sudo shutdown -h now"
[13:14] <mjayk> gulzar: sorry matey that was my initial thought
[13:15] <gulzar> mjayk: Thank You
[13:15] <Alexanderrockz_> :|
[13:16] <Alexanderrockz_> i gotta go
[13:16] <mjayk> gulzar: there is the same problem on askubuntu, seams like falling back to opensource nvidia drivers fixed it
[13:16] <mjayk> gulzar: http://askubuntu.com/questions/125844/shutdown-does-not-power-off-computer
[13:17] <bahamas> anyone have any idea what's wrong with this upstart script http://bpaste.net/show/9YVf9uXqB2uSixwukAFO/? each line is not recognized
[13:17] <SP33D> how can i end a crashed programm starter
[13:17] <eeee_> SP33D: click on the "x" then Force quit
[13:17] <SP33D> i expirence strange things with wine in ubntu utopic but don't can end the wine programm starter graphicaly
[13:18] <cfhowlett> !utopic|SP33D,
[13:18] <SP33D> there is no window or process any more
[13:18] <SP33D> i am dev but i don't know all :(
[13:18] <mjayk> SP33D: tried wineserver -k ?
[13:18] <bahamas> anyone?
[13:19] <cfhowlett> SP33D, utopic not supported in this channel
[13:19] <SP33D> wine server -k makes nothing and ps aux don't shows wine anymore
[13:19] <noir_> bahamas: what?
[13:19] <cfhowlett> SP33D, #ubuntu+1
[13:19] <eeee_> SP33D: try pkill wine
[13:20] <slashdot>  
[13:20] <eeee_>  
[13:20] <eeee_> was curious
[13:21] <bahamas> noir_: the upstart script I pasted above is not working. I get 'description: not found; respawn: not found'
[13:21] <noir_> bahamas: can you paste it again? I missed it
[13:22] <bahamas> http://bpaste.net/show/9YVf9uXqB2uSixwukAFO/
[13:23] <noir_> bahamas: uhm, can't help you sorry... Maybe you are running it with the wrong interpreter? Sometimes it happens to run with bash instead of sh for example and everything goes wrong.
[13:24] <noir_> By the way, why some websites with chromium have horrible font rendering? For example facebook is barely readable.. What should I do?
[13:24] <cfhowlett> noir_, use firefox?
[13:26] <glcheetham> yeah noir_, chromium isn't really meant to be stable and bug-free anyway
[13:26] <noir_> cfhowlett: with iceweasel it seems to go better, but it seems a little slower as browser
[13:26] <cfhowlett> !browser | noir_, choose your poison
[13:27] <andlabs> actually
[13:27] <andlabs> asking again, because this time I have the version numbers right :S
[13:27] <andlabs> Hi. I need xutils-dev 1.18 to build some software with jhbuild, but Trusty only comes with 1.17. Is there some PPA I can use to upgrade? So far searching has led nowhere. Thanks.
[13:28] <SP33D> this are only libs @ andlabs
[13:28] <compdoc> andlabs, there might be, but sometimes you need to compile your own
[13:28] <SP33D> simply download new version and put it where the old was
[13:28] <SP33D> no changes needed
[13:30] <noir_> By the way firefox font rendering sucks too with certains websites, like facebook and github, so maybe he's trying to use some font that has bad rendering, but i don't know how to check it and solve
[13:31] <SP33D> in ubuntu trusty how do you restart the starter bar
[13:31] <SP33D> in unity
[13:31] <andlabs> SP33D: that sounds bad, though it's just complaining about some m4 macros
[13:31] <andlabs> compdoc: hm...
[13:35] <andlabs> nope, even the m4 macros have to be autotol'd
[13:35] <andlabs> blah
[13:37] <andlabs> oh wait the packag ejust includes the macros
[13:37] <andlabs> hm
[13:37] <sakamop> Could also be new to linux desktop and not used to the font rendering. it's different on windows or mac.
[13:37] <sakamop> Different between distros too. Isn't the ubuntu font renderer not free?
[13:38] <andlabs> nothing seems to be breaking so far, thanks
[13:38] <YokoBR> guys, is it normal for an acer aspire one to be between 34 C - 46 C ?
[13:40] <sakamop> I cant comment on that specific model, but it's within tolerance for the chips. It's probbaly summer too where you are, so that will result in the machine running hotter.
[13:41] <hey_joe> i just did "apt-get install sysinfo" stupidly on my server machine... i think it installed all sorts of X libs etc..
[13:41] <hey_joe> whats the best way to remove it, and everything it installed just now
[13:41] <hey_joe> aside from apt-get remove sysinfo - i don't believe that will grab all the depencies it just threw up on my system
[13:42] <Guest77072> hello all
[13:43] <Guest77072> is this LXLE
[13:45] <sakamop> What is LXLE? I know LXDE and can't think what keyboaed layout causes that to be typo.
[13:46] <brontosaurusrex> sakamop, lxle.net < they have a page
[13:47] <andlabs> right, neve rmind; thanks anyway
[13:49] <nutzz> how can I list all the directories that I was in?
[13:49] <s12> ls
[13:49] <s12> ls -a to show hidden
[13:50] <nutzz> I mean, if I do ca dir1; cd dir2; cd dir3. Is there any command that will list dir1, dir2 and dir3?
[13:50] <bcvery> nutzz, pwd
[13:51] <QinLiming> hi
[13:51] <nutzz> I mean, a history of all the directories that I worked on since the computer is on
[13:55] <mjsey89> Hi all
[13:56] <mjsey89> What is the best way to access a network drive on a windows domain
[13:57] <vuiiiiiiiiiiiic> http://bet-tips.cogia.net/?ref=1810
[13:58] <s12> http://goo.gl/Io5L3Y
[13:58] <bcvery> !samba | mjsey89
[13:59] <chrisgeorge> When using dir_colors in ubuntu, for some reason the default for any directory with the permissions drwxrwxrwx, is a green background and blue foreground. I can't seem to find the correct dir_colors entry to change this. Any ideas?
[14:01] <mjsey89> cool
[14:01] <mjsey89> asks me for a username and password though
[14:01] <s12> are you using samba?
[14:02] <|Frodo|> hello! I've installed Kubuntu (12.04 LTS) on my eeepc netbook with atom processor. the hardwaree clock works fine, but when running Kubuntu for a while (in idle), the software cloack "looses" time, up to severeal minutes per hour. why is that happaning?  __  I can run a (selfmade9 script via cron to adjust the software clock every 10 minutes via NTP or hardware clock, but is there a better way?
[14:05] <bobptz> 12.04 refuses to boot with error:  "Could not write bytes: broken pipes”.  I checked the disks, they are ok.  Here is the dmesg: http://paste.ubuntu.com/7964696/.  Can somebody experienced help me please?
[14:06] <|Frodo|> s/cloack/clock/
[14:06] <mjsey89> s12, yes  I am
[14:08] <s12> And i assume it's your windows drive your trying to access?
[14:10] <bobptz> 12.04 refuses to boot with error:  "Could not write bytes: broken pipes”.  I checked the disks, they are ok.  Here is the dmesg: http://paste.ubuntu.com/7964696/.  Can somebody experienced help me please?
[14:13] <s12> @bobptz http://askubuntu.com/questions/355515/could-not-write-bytes-broken-pipe-12-04
[14:15] <sgo11> hi, how to check which font I am currently using in a terminal? I got some font problems. thanks.
[14:15] <noir_> sgo11: what kind of terminal are you using?
[14:16] <sgo11> noir_, lxterminal
[14:16] <noir_> sgo11: hasn't it a config file somewhere?
[14:17] <kotsar> Hi guys! I'm facing very interesting issue in ubuntu 14.04 (unity). I have laptop with where headphones out and microphone in are merged in one. When I switch on my laptop my laptop speakers are working great, but headphones are not working. In unity sound settings it's indicated Speakers and S/PDIF. But after I reboot my laptop, the SPDIF device disappears, only speakers are left, and I can connect my headphones and they are working properl
[14:17] <kotsar> y. So every time I need to use my headphones, I need to switch on my laptop and then reboot it. Anybody can help?
[14:17] <sgo11> noir_, GUI shows it chooses "monospace".
[14:17] <sgo11> noir_, Monospace is like a group. I am wondering which font I am currently using.
[14:18] <noir_> sgo11: can you provide a screen? maybe it's a common font :P
[14:20] <sgo11> noir_, that is not what I want. I want to use some command line tool to check which font I am currently using. my fonts are overlapping with each other. very weird. I have setup the same in other PCs, other PCs have no problem.
[14:25] <sgo11> This is very weird. If I setup the font to be Dejavu Mono in lxterminal, it works very well. If I setup the font to be Monospace, it doesn't work. BUT I configured /etc/fonts/local.conf, it uses Dejavu Mono in Monospace family. This config file always works in other PCs. what's wrong here?
[14:26] <s12> What are you trying to achieve?
[14:27] <sgo11> does it mean my local.conf is not working? why is not working? I am using the same file in another PC which works fine. they have the same md5sum.
[14:27] <sgo11> s12, Use DejaVu Sans Mono as Monospace font. I did configure this in local.conf.
[14:28] <sgo11> This is the first time I met such issue. weird.
[14:28] <Zenn> can someone here update the softwares in ubuntu software center ?
[14:28] <Zenn> almost half of it is outdated
[14:29] <s12> When did you run a Apt update last?
[14:30] <cfhowlett> !who
[14:30] <sikor_sxe> hi there, where does ubuntu store the domain name?
[14:30] <OerHeks> !latest
[14:31] <Chaos_Zero> I like gedit alot but I find so far it is very unstable, usually freezing forever when I try to open or save files. Is there a way to get a more stable version, possibly older?
[14:31] <Zenn> OerHeks, the eclipse ide is outdated
[14:31] <Zenn> and there isnt any skype
[14:32] <sgo11> what can cause /etc/fonts/local.conf not working? thanks.
[14:32] <cfhowlett> Chaos_Zero, before you try older, try different: vim  is supposed to be quite usable
[14:32] <cfhowlett> Zenn, false.  skype is in the repos.
[14:32] <OerHeks> Zenn, skype is in the partner 3th party repo
[14:33] <Zenn> 3th party repo what ?
[14:33] <noir_> man xchm
[14:33] <noir_> ops
[14:33] <cfhowlett> !repos | Zenn
[14:34] <manue475> hej
[14:34] <Zenn> cfhowlett, what about the eclipse ide?
[14:35] <cfhowlett> Zenn, never used it.  heard good things about it.  YMMV
[14:35] <Zenn> :(
[14:35] <Zenn> it is outdated
[14:35] <manue475> it is only a test, does somebody can read me?
[14:36] <kostkon> manue475, no
[14:36] <Zenn> manue475, yes
[14:36] <cfhowlett> !test | manue475,
[14:36] <cfhowlett> Zenn, there are about 20 editors available .. pretty sure ONE will meet your needs.  install and test
[14:36] <manue475> thanks kostkon, it is allways good to have people who read the mind.
[14:36] <Zenn> well I already installed eclipse
[14:37] <Zenn> :)
[14:37] <Zenn> thought would come in here and let you guys know it is outdated
[14:37] <Zenn> https://www.eclipse.org/ -> 4.4
[14:37] <Zenn> ubuntu software 3.8
[14:37] <cfhowlett> Zenn, thanks.    moving on now ...
[14:37] <brontosaurusrex> Zenn, i'am shocked
[14:37] <manue475> I like to join to asterisk channell but I get a message that says I should be a member.
[14:38] <Bundestrojaner> good evening
[14:38] <cfhowlett> manue475, nothing to do with ubuntu ...
[14:38] <bobptz> s12, the problem started after I updated 12.04 for newer hardware, through the update manager
[14:38] <kostkon> !register | manue475
[14:38] <Bundestrojaner> how can i check where apt-get installed a program to?
[14:38] <pressure679> My irc programs doesn't work, anyone knows what's wrong?
[14:38] <cfhowlett> pressure679e , can you see this message?
[14:39] <manue475> thanks for information
[14:39] <pressure679> cfhowlett: Yes, although this is Firefox
[14:39] <cfhowlett> pressure679, so ... IRC works for you!
[14:39] <bobptz> s12, then I went to ubuntu tweak and used the JANITOR to wipe older stuff.  After that the laptop never booted again.  So I should reverse all this?  And what will happen if I hit update again?
[14:39] <Zenn> you should be bronto
[14:39] <Zenn> need cpr?
[14:40] <pressure679> cfhowlett: Well, sort of
[14:40] <johnjohnthedon> hello guys
[14:40] <cfhowlett> !details | pressure679, don't cookie crumb the clues.  details
[14:41] <johnjohnthedon> i have a file thats in multiple directories i want to remove them with one command can someone let me know what command to use please?
[14:41] <x9> hello, running xubuntu 14.04 and for some reason, randomly, my wireless card shuts off or something? Wi-Fi connections drop and it faults to Ethernet (and all connected file transfers fail because nothing is connected to ethernet)
[14:41] <cfhowlett> bobptz, don't use janitor.  learn how to manually clean your system.  it's really not that complicated
[14:41] <pressure679> There's much more to it, it's with emacs' IRC client & xchat gtk & gnome versions, just stopped working this morning
[14:42] <x9> I've had it go a day of full use without fail, but then it will fail randomly
[14:42] <x9> are there any power saving features in Ubuntu I can tweak? (even though the laptop is connected to mains power)
[14:42] <pressure679> It's on ubuntu 12.04 btw
[14:42] <hualet_deepin> johnjohnthedon: find . -name "you-file-name" | xargs rm
[14:42] <s12> @bobptz sorry i've never toyed with janitor im not sure how it does things. Try reversing it if it gives you that option
[14:42] <bobptz> cfhowlett, what can I say, I trusted it.  Anyway, my priorityis to fix the system now
[14:43] <johnjohnthedon> thanks hualet
[14:43] <bobptz> s12, even if it allowed reversing, I cannot start ubuntu, just CLI
[14:43] <cfhowlett> bobptz, what is the output of terminal command:    cat /etc/issue
[14:44] <bobptz> cfhowlett, I have copied the entire /var/log directory and I can view it (from windows).  If you want me to see the /etc/issue, I need to reboot (exit from windows)
[14:45] <bobptz> cfhowlett would it help if you looked at the dmesg file?  I have this one
[14:45] <cfhowlett> bobptz, no don't reboot!
[14:45] <bobptz> cfhowlett, ok....
[14:45] <kostkon> bobptz, also the /var/log/dpkg.log
[14:45] <bobptz> ok, this is easy, please wait
[14:46] <cfhowlett> bobptz, I was after knowing your current version ... anyway, did you sudo apt-get dist-upgrade            to get the latest distro packages...
[14:46] <x9> are there any power saving features for wi-fi cards?
[14:46] <Bundestrojaner> how can i look up where apt-get installed a program to?
[14:46] <x9> namely one that shuts off the card after so long?
[14:47] <bobptz> cfhowlett, no
[14:47] <TeraJL> can someone test this bug on your PC (it only takes a second), and report it? it has been bugging me since 12.04 with no fix https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/unity-control-center/+bug/1349436
[14:47] <hualet_deepin> Bundestrojaner: dpkg -L package-name
[14:47] <Bundestrojaner> hualet_deepin: thx :)
[14:47] <x9> TeraJL: sorry, unless it affects Xubuntu as well
[14:47] <cfhowlett> bobptz, may I suggest:   sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade         don't be shocked if it pulls down a whole bunch of goodies
[14:47] <kostkon> TeraJL, have i seen you here before? :P
[14:48] <TeraJL> x9: i think it's a unity problem :/
[14:48] <bobptz> cfhowlett, ok guys, do you want to see any of the logs before I reboot?
[14:48] <TeraJL> kostkon: probably
[14:48] <bobptz> cfhowlett, or you want me to run the dist-upgrade?
[14:48] <cfhowlett> bobptz, YES run dist-upgrade      to make sure you've go the latest ... might fix your issue
[14:49] <bobptz> cfhowlett, ok, I will try this.  let me go then
[14:49] <kotsar> Hi guys! I'm facing very interesting issue in ubuntu 14.04 (unity). I have laptop with where headphones out and microphone in are merged in one. When I switch on my laptop my laptop speakers are working great, but headphones are not working. In unity sound settings it's indicated Speakers and S/PDIF. But after I reboot my laptop, the SPDIF device disappears, only speakers are left, and I can connect my headphones and they are working properl
[14:49] <kotsar>  y. So every time I need to use my headphones, I need to switch on my laptop and then reboot it. Anybody can help?
[14:50] <bobptz> cfhowlett, I can connect to internet through wire, but the CLI mode will establish a connection with the net?
[14:51] <cfhowlett> bobptz, if you're connected at all, using CLI will not change that.
[14:51] <bobptz> cfhowlett, well, when I booted with liveCD, it could not connect to the net
[14:52] <cfhowlett> bobptz, that's different ... live cd hasn't been optimized and configured after installation to  your system
[14:52] <bobptz> cfhowlett, so if I go to recovery mode and the to CLI, I will have connection?
[14:53] <cfhowlett> bobptz, don't recover.  boot as regular.  start a terminal and upgrade
[14:56] <bobptz> cfhowlett, my system showes the error and the hangs.  It does not go to GUI
[14:56] <cfhowlett> bobptz, OK, now try recovery
[14:56] <bobptz> cfhowlett, I can only go to recovery mode. So should I procceed?
[14:56] <cfhowlett> bobptz, sorry, but I gotta work tomorrow.  gtg
[14:57] <bobptz> cfhowlett, ok, I will try anyway
[15:02] <manu8> hello again.
[15:02] <manu8> does somebody know something about asterisk?
[15:04] <sikor_sxe> what could be wrong if hostname -d is not consistent?
[15:06] <Zenn> I cant find skype in the software centre
[15:06] <manu8> ok, good day for everybody
[15:07] <x9> Zenn: download it from http://skype.com
[15:08] <x9> is there any automatic power saving software in Ubuntu to shut off wireless cards?
[15:10] <mjrbordo> Hello everybody :D
[15:10] <mjrbordo> anybody have any idea why grub dont recognize ubuntu after instalation ?
[15:10] <mjrbordo> im talking about 14.04
[15:11] <x9> mjrbordo: upgrade, fresh install from disk, or wubi?
[15:11] <mjrbordo> from usb
[15:12] <mjrbordo> first 2 times i tryed on empty ssd disk
[15:12] <jhutchins> mjrbordo: What did you try to do?  How did you try to do it?  What did you expect to happen?  What happened instead?
[15:12] <mjrbordo> now i trying to install with windows 8.1 but its same
[15:12] <mjrbordo> i just install with swap partition
[15:12] <x9> computer came with/had installed Windows 8.1 or are you installing that alongside Ubuntu?
[15:14] <mjrbordo> after instalation i saw the window with " To use ubuntu need to reboot computer now or still try ubuntu" - smth like this and after rebooting there is no option in grub to chose ubuntu. Only options "Try ubuntu, install ubuntu... ect.
[15:14] <x9> remove the USB stick and reboot again
[15:14] <TJ-> mjrbordo: You've left the boot media in, and it is starting instead of the hard disk because it is ahead of the hard disk in the firmware's boot menu order
[15:15] <x9> mjrbordo: remove your install stick and reboot the computer. should work properly then.
[15:15] <mjrbordo> i tried without sb stick and was same
[15:17] <mjrbordo> now i have 8.1 and its just start windows  instead grub to chose OS
[15:17] <Scriptonaut> anyone here know how to get heroku on ubuntu 12.04 with apt-get
[15:18] <Eldunar> hello do u know when wayland will come?
[15:18] <x9> !boot-repair | mjrbordo
[15:18] <Peter_> Hi, I'm using 12.04LTS and would like use perf for performance measurement. I need to find a package that contains an uncompressed vmlinux and I think it would be linux-image-3.2.0-67-generic-dbgsym but no -dbgsym package seems to be available for my kernel version. I would downgrade but I cannot, is there any way I can generate that package myself?
[15:19] <mjrbordo> in grub or ubuntu  terminal ?
[15:19] <root_> #italy
[15:19] <Scriptonaut> terminal
[15:20] <kennedy> oi
[15:20] <TJ-> Peter_: use "/usr/src/linux-headers-`uname -r`/scripts/extract-vmlinux"
[15:20] <kennedy> oiii
[15:21] <yogeshp> I am trying to install 14.04 on g505s and unable to boot the system. Live CD is boots up well. Nothing happens after loading Initrd (in failsafe). There is a win7 already installed and it uses BIOS. How would I debug the issue further?
[15:22] <phunyguy> yogeshp: have you checked that the livecd is error-free?
[15:22] <yogeshp> PhoenixSTF: Livecd was working well
[15:23] <phunyguy> that's not what I asked
[15:23] <phunyguy> !md5
[15:23] <yogeshp> phunyguy: ooh! did not.
[15:23] <phunyguy> :)
[15:24] <phunyguy> I would say that is a first step... if that shows that there are no errors, then there is something else going on.
[15:24] <c2h6o> Hey guys... I"m unable to install the citrix receiver on ubuntu 14.04
[15:24] <c2h6o> ia32-libs dependency is not met
[15:25] <phunyguy> c2h6o: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CitrixICAClientHowTo
[15:25] <OerHeks> c2h6o, no need for ia32 package, just add :i386
[15:25] <phunyguy> did you follow that?
[15:27] <c2h6o> libwebkitgtk-
[15:28] <c2h6o> it says cannot install libwebkitgtk-1.0-0:i386
[15:29] <yogeshp> phunyguy: dccff28314d9ae4ed262cfc6f35e5153  ubuntu-14.04-desktop-amd64.iso it matches what site has said
[15:30] <x9> so in xubuntu, is there a way to make smooth transitions on desktop backgrounds, like with compiz or something?
[15:31] <c2h6o> dpkg: dependency problems prevent configuration of icaclient:
[15:31] <c2h6o>  icaclient depends on libxerces-c3.1.
[15:31] <c2h6o>  icaclient depends on libcurl3 (>= 7.19.1).
[15:31] <c2h6o>  icaclient depends on libwebkit-1.0-2 | libwebkitgtk-1.0-0.
[15:31] <c2h6o> and that's where it stops
[15:32] <c2h6o> libwebkitgtk dependency is not met, even though it says I have the latest version
[15:32] <s12> is it dependant on a specific package?
[15:38] <c2h6o> s12, it is dependent on libwebkitgtk-1.0-0
[15:38] <c2h6o> s12, not sure what the question is
[15:39] <Peter_> TJ: thanlks!
[15:40] <emx> i try to use a self signed certificate on odroid ubuntu. what i get is this: ssl_error_rx_record_too_long
[15:41] <trijntje> I want to install ubuntu encrypted with separate home and root partitions. How can I do this? I used the graphical installer to create two 'physical volumes for encryption', but now I have to give my password twice every time I boot
[15:42] <trijntje> (once for /, and once for /home)
[15:42] <xrosnight> i upgraded the chromium browser to version 34 but the browser warns me that flash plugin is not installed while firefox works well. why is that? how to fix?  Thanks!
[15:42] <trijntje> xrosnight, pepperflashplugin-nonfree
[15:42] <xrosnight> trijntje: apt-get install $that_one?
[15:42] <zubuntu> hi
[15:42] <trijntje> xrosnight, yes
[15:43] <zubuntu> i cannot boot to ubuntu
[15:43] <zubuntu> runnian dual boot
[15:43] <c2h6o> TJ-, your wizard skills are required
[15:43] <zubuntu> running
[15:43] <s12> @c2h6o have you tried installing an older package which is being requested?
[15:43] <xrosnight> trijntje: it warns " E: Unable to locate package pepperflashplugin-nonfree"
[15:43] <TJ-> c2h6o: my wizzard skills are failing right now :(
[15:44] <trijntje> xrosnight, thats weird, I have it here (pepperflashplugin-nonfree). Which version of ubuntu are you running?
[15:44] <xrosnight> linuxmint 13 trijntje
[15:44] <xrosnight> based on ubuntu 12.04
[15:44] <xlmnxp> hi
[15:45] <zubuntu> i dont know what happened
[15:45] <zubuntu> one day i closed my pc
[15:45] <zubuntu> and then i couldnt boot to ubuntu anymore
[15:45] <zubuntu> it is giving black screen
[15:45] <zubuntu> looks like command line but it doesnt type
[15:46] <OerHeks> !mint | xrosnight maybe mint has no pepperflash-plugin
[15:46] <mjrbordo> x9
[15:46] <x9> yes mjrbordo?
[15:47] <trijntje> I want to install ubuntu encrypted with separate home and root partitions. How can I do this? I used the graphical installer to create two 'physical volumes for encryption', but now I have to give my password twice every time I boot
[15:47] <xlmnxp> i need terminal color code :D
[15:47] <xlmnxp> URL :D
[15:48] <s12> trijntje your unlocking two encryptions, would be pointless without a password for each
[15:49] <trijntje> s12, what do you mean pointless, since the passwords are the same I only want to give it once
[15:49] <Dr_Dan> Q:  i have a older ASUS netbook. Its has just Intel Atom N550 at 1.6ghz.  Its only 2 cores.   Would U14 run on this?  Or should use Lubuntu/Xubuntu
[15:50] <eeee> trijntje: if somebody guessed it then it's probably over, it defeats the point
[15:50] <s12> trijntje, from what i understand your unencrypting your root folder first then your home folder second if theres no password theres no need to encrypt it
[15:50] <Dr_Dan> Oh.  Its got 2GB ram
[15:51] <trijntje> s12, who is talking about no password? I want it to use the same password to decrypt both home and root
[15:51] <s12> @Dr_Dan https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/SystemRequirements
[15:51] <trijntje> eeee, guessed what, guessing has nothing to do with my question
[15:52] <eeee> sorry, no idea i thought you were encrypting twice
[15:52] <sgo11> hi, I installed ibus input method. now, at every login, the default input method is set to ibus. how can I change the default input method to be English? thanks.
[15:52] <trijntje> eeee, no, i have a / partition and a /home partition, both encrypted
[15:52] <Dr_Dan> S12,  thank you.  Do you have a personal opinion?  It may install,   but would it be slow?
[15:53] <s12> @Dr_Dan Personally i'd try the LiveBoot from a USB or look at other lightweight flavours of linux
[15:54] <s12> @trijntje you have two encryptions therefore you need two passwords
[15:54] <TJ-> trijntje: The solution is to add a key-file to the /home/ encrypted-volume, store it in the root-filesystem encrypted volume, and add an entry in "/etc/crypttab" so that cryptsetup can unlock the /home/ encrypted volume automatically
[15:55] <molgrum> can anyone link me to file a bug for blender-ogrexml-1.9? i can't access the bug section for it
[15:55] <trijntje> molgrum, ubuntu-bug blender in a terminal
[15:55] <molgrum> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/trusty/i386/blender-ogrexml-1.9 clicking bugs there takes me to trusty general
[15:55] <molgrum> trijntje: i'll try that thanks
[15:56] <trijntje> TJ-, cool, thanks a lot, I'll give that a try
[15:56] <TJ-> trijntje: alternatively, store the key-file on an external USB device and have that plugged in at boot-time, and set "/etc/crypttab" to use a key-file and custom script that knows how to mount and read the USB device
[15:56] <trijntje> TJ-, I'll probably stick with the first options, since I've lost quite a lot of usb drives over the years ;)
[15:57] <trijntje> thanks again, I'm off
[15:57] <TJ-> trijntje: "dpkg -L cryptsetup" will show you some examples including default scripts that come with the cryptsetup package
[15:57] <molgrum> i wonder if trinjtje meant "ubuntu-bug blender-ogrexml-1.9"
[15:57] <TJ-> trijntje is going to lose his data ... he didn't wait to be told about the importance of an offline back-up of the LUKS headers for the encrypted devices!
[15:58] <NTQ> Hi there. I am using Ubuntu Gnome 14.04 x64 with nemo as the default file manager. But the current version is only 2.2.3. So I thought I could use this ppa: https://launchpad.net/~gwendal-lebihan-dev/+archive/ubuntu/cinnamon-nightly . But if I try to dist-upgrade, it wants to install much more than only the new version of nemo. Could this be dangerous for my gnome?
[16:04] <Ca11um> I have installed the latest Ubuntu Desktop and installed the latest (non-beta) driver for my ATI RADEON graphics card. In the past I've been able to correct the overscan settings in the Catalyst Control Center, but now the settings seem to be cut down.
[16:04] <Ca11um> Does anybody know where I can change the overscan for my display?
[16:05] <samthewildone> Why does my computer reboot randomly ?
[16:05] <samthewildone> It happens only at night when I play Google Music...
[16:05] <samthewildone> This never happened when I had windows installed. So it has to be something ubuntu 14.04.1 is doing...
[16:06] <TJ-> samthewildone: It's telling you to get to bed :)
[16:06] <samthewildone> TJ-, I'm already in bed... I play music on my computer when I sleep.
[16:06] <samthewildone> its one of my habits, been doing it for years.
[16:06] <TJ-> samthewildone: sounds like the PC is joining you :)
[16:07] <samthewildone> TJ-, so your telling me that my PC is self-aware ?
[16:07] <xangua> samthewildone: do you put your computer in the bed and let it overheat¿
[16:07] <samthewildone> my computer is a desktop and no... I did not have any sexual relations with my computer.
[16:07] <TJ-> samthewildone: I'm damn sure mine is... if I threaten it with being thrown out the window again, it behaves itself!
[16:08] <samthewildone> For real people, isn't there a changelog I can see ?
[16:09] <TJ-> samthewildone: Is the shutdown controlled or instant, as if power was turned off, and does it reboot or just go to power-off state?
[16:09] <TJ-> samthewildone: if slightly controlled there may be some clues in one of more of the system log files
[16:10] <OerHeks> how 'randomly'? after one hour?
[16:11] <samthewildone> Well when I wake up from my slumber, I log in and when I start Chrome it say's "chrome wasn't shutdown properly, restore to last page?"
[16:11] <samthewildone> Also when I log in my splash screen for compiz loads up, signifying that the computer has rebooted.
[16:12] <xangua> sounds like suspend
[16:12] <samthewildone> Also I don't know the exact time the computer reboots but, I know when I wake up the music is no longer playing.
[16:12] <TJ-> samthewildone: first stop, "/var/log/" and look for clues, especially in syslog and kern.log and their saved backups
[16:12] <samthewildone> ok
[16:13] <marianne_> samthewildone: could also be a brown out or power spike causing the reboots without warning
[16:15] <samthewildone> TJ-, http://pastebin.com/a8q9V2Fg
[16:15] <samthewildone> Don't know what I'm looking for but, figures that the computer reseted around 5:30
[16:17] <samthewildone> Something just crashed....
[16:17] <A8260LG> 6HQHO5~~ touch my butt feddy ~~QGQWJW
[16:17] <A8260LG> 6IL5B9~~ touch my butt feddy ~~O9BAXO
[16:17] <A8260LG> D5PSUF~~ touch my butt feddy ~~VOV4HH
[16:17] <A8260LG> RQIHQ3~~ touch my butt feddy ~~F0WE8A
[16:17] <A8260LG> OQEP0M~~ touch my butt feddy ~~VACPH6
[16:17] <A1FLKNO> 1AKAGR~~ touch my butt feddy ~~8DYC2O
[16:17] <A1FLKNO> D497VM~~ touch my butt feddy ~~4AZYNN
[16:17] <A1FLKNO> YED8HT~~ touch my butt feddy ~~6NRRRL
[16:17] <A1FLKNO> 1B40PO~~ touch my butt feddy ~~RW2KXU
[16:17] <ASER2HS> FEYQ31~~ touch my butt feddy ~~Z0RBYA
[16:17] <ASER2HS> 2RVA5X~~ touch my butt feddy ~~1IPYOJ
[16:17] <ASER2HS> JIVHUI~~ touch my butt feddy ~~1R6JGJ
[16:17] <ASER2HS> ZEPND3~~ touch my butt feddy ~~Q4IV6P
[16:17] <A20SX8V> 9O8NCY~~ touch my butt feddy ~~OALS1A
[16:17] <A20SX8V> RAGQWV~~ touch my butt feddy ~~GCWUE2
[16:17] <A20SX8V> QBJ3B7~~ touch my butt feddy ~~CTD1ZQ
[16:17] <A20SX8V> SDX2MF~~ touch my butt feddy ~~XJ14TO
[16:17] <A20SX8V> O9QKUY~~ touch my butt feddy ~~UM8QF0
[16:17] <AX6V8OZ> YVQ6AN~~ touch my butt feddy ~~TL8S30
[16:17] <AX6V8OZ> VPZAVD~~ touch my butt feddy ~~B241G8
[16:17] <AX6V8OZ> 54GZCG~~ touch my butt feddy ~~L3B8XY
[16:17] <AX6V8OZ> 6B88LE~~ touch my butt feddy ~~Q9RV5P
[16:17] <AX6V8OZ> LV40BH~~ touch my butt feddy ~~4RYREG
[16:17] <A20SX8V> C6T6GM~~ touch my butt feddy ~~ZJGNV2
[16:17] <A1FLKNO> J05HMS~~ touch my butt feddy ~~QUUDTW
[16:17] <A1FLKNO> 0EPBDO~~ touch my butt feddy ~~YT0IMB
[16:17] <ASER2HS> O5WSVG~~ touch my butt feddy ~~I4A6BE
[16:17] <samthewildone> you know what I think it's this compiz thing
[16:17] <A1FLKNO> LT3LOY~~ touch my butt feddy ~~XYCSL6
[16:17] <A8260LG> KPNXK3~~ touch my butt feddy ~~TZ8GY2
[16:17] <A8260LG> UG239O~~ touch my butt feddy ~~292ACM
[16:17] <A8260LG> TANW0L~~ touch my butt feddy ~~IWYOEH
[16:17] <AX6V8OZ> 84JYO1~~ touch my butt feddy ~~J7FRSA
[16:17] <AX6V8OZ> JU76Z5~~ touch my butt feddy ~~QY9LFA
[16:17] <AX6V8OZ> S9GQDG~~ touch my butt feddy ~~BBJWYP
[16:17] <AX6V8OZ> GGNQ35~~ touch my butt feddy ~~EWD8R0
[16:17] <samthewildone> ?
[16:17] <unopaste> A20SX8V you have been muted for 60 seconds as it looks like you are pasting lots of lines into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com and paste just the URL of your data here when you are unmuted
[16:17] <unopaste> A1FLKNO you have been muted for 60 seconds as it looks like you are pasting lots of lines into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com and paste just the URL of your data here when you are unmuted
[16:17] <unopaste> A8260LG you have been muted for 60 seconds as it looks like you are pasting lots of lines into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com and paste just the URL of your data here when you are unmuted
[16:17] <OerHeks> !ops
[16:17] <unopaste> AX6V8OZ you have been muted for 60 seconds as it looks like you are pasting lots of lines into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com and paste just the URL of your data here when you are unmuted
[16:17] <AB07W4U> O3198J~~ touch my butt feddy ~~KX07BW
[16:17] <AXA3DZ7> 7TZDKL~~ touch my butt feddy ~~F71HT1
[16:17] <AXA3DZ7> K5H1P0~~ touch my butt feddy ~~3E5Q6Z
[16:17] <AXA3DZ7> B41HAB~~ touch my butt feddy ~~FTSN02
[16:17] <AXA3DZ7> LV5Q0Y~~ touch my butt feddy ~~GK9469
[16:17] <AOEN38S> QI1S3H~~ touch my butt feddy ~~ZFQ13F
[16:17] <AZ9U5TE> 56K8NW~~ touch my butt feddy ~~X3TC80
[16:17] <AZ9U5TE> D0TPYV~~ touch my butt feddy ~~6QCMQW
[16:17] <AZ9U5TE> 27D9T6~~ touch my butt feddy ~~DF15MS
[16:17] <AZ9U5TE> SJHE7A~~ touch my butt feddy ~~HGRT7I
[16:17] <AXA3DZ7> RBEDDI~~ touch my butt feddy ~~EQKI65
[16:17] <AWVDDMJ> ZOP7KA~~ touch my butt feddy ~~7T23PU
[16:17] <AWVDDMJ> EJEHUF~~ touch my butt feddy ~~UWMX66
[16:17] <AWVDDMJ> E1LXVW~~ touch my butt feddy ~~HNY5FV
[16:17] <AWVDDMJ> MSDAL6~~ touch my butt feddy ~~64O628
[16:17] <AXA3DZ7> 2NTUKN~~ touch my butt feddy ~~BRGQ15
[16:17] <AWVDDMJ> O2AGBU~~ touch my butt feddy ~~AAGYK1
[16:17] <AWVDDMJ> WK21H5~~ touch my butt feddy ~~CG5T94
[16:17] <unopaste> AXA3DZ7 you have been muted for 60 seconds as it looks like you are pasting lots of lines into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com and paste just the URL of your data here when you are unmuted
[16:17] <AWVDDMJ> FKKJ9X~~ touch my butt feddy ~~3QMZX9
[16:17] <AZ9U5TE> 5DLKW7~~ touch my butt feddy ~~RGJKDG
[16:17] <AZ9U5TE> 9KL5GK~~ touch my butt feddy ~~X7SLMJ
[16:17] <AWVDDMJ> PJ7ZDX~~ touch my butt feddy ~~AKAHQ6
[16:18] <AZ9U5TE> TG6JJW~~ touch my butt feddy ~~BHUOVW
[16:18] <AWVDDMJ> MU9576~~ touch my butt feddy ~~ZASEMX
[16:18] <AZ9U5TE> X6AWJ0~~ touch my butt feddy ~~1NCNFD
[16:18] <AZ9U5TE> APR9J3~~ touch my butt feddy ~~Z7T0XO
[16:18] <phuh> AWESOME STUFF
[16:18] <unopaste> AWVDDMJ you have been muted for 60 seconds as it looks like you are pasting lots of lines into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com and paste just the URL of your data here when you are unmuted
[16:18] <unopaste> AZ9U5TE you have been muted for 60 seconds as it looks like you are pasting lots of lines into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com and paste just the URL of your data here when you are unmuted
[16:18] <unopaste> AWVDDMJ you have been muted for 60 seconds as it looks like you are pasting lots of lines into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com and paste just the URL of your data here when you are unmuted
[16:18] <unopaste> AZ9U5TE you have been muted for 60 seconds as it looks like you are pasting lots of lines into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com and paste just the URL of your data here when you are unmuted
[16:18] <samthewildone> jezz people still do this ?
[16:19] <MohammadAG> samthewildone you're not cool enough to understand
[16:19] <Pici> Sorry unregistered folks, you'll be unable to speak until we work this out.
[16:19] <MohammadAG> but yeah, #ubuntu-unregged seems worse
[16:20] <samthewildone> I'll come back
[16:21] <sgen_> Hello, my sound wont work since I apt-get upgraded yesterday. How can I fix this
[16:25] <s12>  
[16:27] <NTQ> Hi there. I am using Ubuntu Gnome 14.04 x64 with nemo as the default file manager. But the current version is only 2.2.3. So I thought I could use this ppa: https://launchpad.net/~gwendal-lebihan-dev/+archive/ubuntu/cinnamon-nightly . But if I try to dist-upgrade, it wants to install much more than only the new version of nemo. Could this be dangerous for my gnome?
[16:27] <d4rks1d3r> hi guys, can you point me to a good tutorial on how to build a new kernel on Ubuntu 14.04?
[16:28] <OerHeks> NTQ, that ppa will update your whole cinamon, can't tell if that hurts, as it is not our repo
[16:29] <mjrbordo1> Hi there. When ubuntu is starting i get this error "Kernel panic - not syncing: No working init found! Try passing init= option to kernel. See.....
[16:29] <NTQ> OerHeks: I have not installed cinnamon. So maybe I got a fresh installation of cinnamon? That should not be a problem. I have not to use it. ;)
[16:30] <mjrbordo1> 1 line before is " Starting init:/bin/sh exitst but couldn't execute it (error -8)
[16:31] <OerHeks> NTQ, i think so, that ppa installs the whole desktop.
[16:32] <mjrbordo1> anybody know somthing about init probs
[16:32] <mjrbordo1> or about kernel panic ?
[16:32] <phunyguy> mjrbordo1: did you mess with anything or did it just stop working?
[16:32] <anon_031> Does anyone know why my AMD gpu is hot after installing 14.04?
[16:33] <phunyguy> mjrbordo1: please answer in the channel so other folks can benefit
[16:34] <mih1406> Hi, does the amazing Spring framework provides role-based permissions for users?
[16:34] <mjrbordo1> i installed on clear SSD
[16:34] <mih1406> Oops, my mistake :)
[16:35] <phunyguy> mjrbordo1: did you check your install media for errors?
[16:35] <mjrbordo1> then it happend after rebooting
[16:35] <phunyguy> !md5
[16:35] <mjrbordo1> how i can do it ?
[16:35] <phunyguy> I just showed you
[16:35] <mjrbordo1> from live ubuntu ?
[16:36] <phunyguy> mjrbordo1: it is good practice to check BEFORE you wipe your OS and try to install  :)
[16:36] <phunyguy> but you may be able to get to a boot menu on the livecd and I recall there being an option there to check the install media for defects
[16:37] <mjrbordo1> but i need to use "!md5" where? im in live usb ?
[16:37] <phunyguy> try what I just said.
[16:37] <mjrbordo1> in terminal ?
[16:37] <OerHeks> mjrbordo1, open terminal ( ctrl alt T )
[16:37] <mjrbordo1> oo
[16:37] <phunyguy> boot to the livecd, and press a key before it starts to load to get to the ubuntu livecd boot menu
[16:37] <phunyguy> also, how are you chatting
[16:37] <phunyguy> from livecd?
[16:37] <mjrbordo1> not
[16:38] <mjrbordo1> from win 81
[16:38] <mjrbordo1> win8.1
[16:38] <phunyguy> well you should be able to to it from windows too
[16:38] <phunyguy> (see second link on !md5)
[16:38] <lordd> hi guys, I've been looking back and forth but no luck today..
[16:38] <mjrbordo1> so i need to plug in USB stick and use !md5 command from windows console?
[16:39] <phunyguy> how did you write USB stick?
[16:39] <mjrbordo1> with the program
[16:39] <mjrbordo1> i forgot who was
[16:39] <phunyguy> ....unetbootin?
[16:39] <mjrbordo1> yes
[16:39] <s12> liveusbcreator?
[16:39] <mjrbordo1> thats right
[16:39] <mjrbordo1> second one
[16:40] <mjrbordo1> im mean ubetbot...
[16:40] <phunyguy> I woudl recommend you download the ISO, and write that to USB....
[16:40] <phunyguy> download iso, check for defects, then write to USB
[16:40] <user123321> What is the setting I need to set in interfaces file to enable networking between my VM's without a router?
[16:40] <mjrbordo1> i got CD like this and its not running at all
[16:41] <phunyguy> mjrbordo1: you have a CD burned?
[16:41] <mjrbordo1> yes
[16:41] <mjrbordo1> but iso
[16:41] <phunyguy> mjrbordo1: do you still have the ISO?
[16:41] <mjrbordo1> yes
[16:41] <phunyguy> ....so click that link, and check the ISO for defects.
[16:42] <mjrbordo1> which one link ?
[16:42] <phunyguy> !md5
[16:42] <phunyguy> grumble
[16:42] <phunyguy> To verify your Ubuntu ISO image (or other files for which an MD5 checksum is provided), see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/HowToMD5SUM or http://www.linuxquestions.org/linux/answers/LQ_ISO/Checking_the_md5sum_in_Windows
[16:42] <emx> when i access a local host through https:// i get a log entry in other_vhosts_Access.log (which seems to be created vor hosts listening on 80, not 443). why?
[16:42] <mjrbordo1> ok
[16:43] <sauraedron> hi, how do i make unity not respond to some of my keys ..  my other application use keys (ctl+shift+u key)
[16:43] <phunyguy> sauraedron: open the Unity Dash and type "keyboard"
[16:44] <phunyguy> see options in there
[16:44] <sauraedron> then->shortcuts?
[16:44] <phunyguy> yessir.
[16:45] <sauraedron> @phunyguy - then what ?
[16:45] <anon_031> How can i stop my AMD graphics card from running constantly at 70C after installing 14.04? I've tried both opensource and proprietary drivers but doesn't seem to make any difference :(
[16:45] <phunyguy> sauraedron: I think you can handle it from here.
[16:45] <mitch-_> i have ubuntu 14.04 for my laptop. I'm currently traveling to a different timezone. can i have my clock change automatically to the correct time based on the location i'm currently in? (I'm in EST instead of CST)
[16:46] <phunyguy> anon_031: unfortunately I don't think you are going to get an aswer for that from Ubuntu... I would say get a hold of the vendor of your card for some support,.
[16:46] <anon_031> phunyguy: damn, that's a shame - i've installed arch/debian and ubuntu on this machine before and didn't have this problem
[16:47] <phunyguy> I understand.... but that's ATI/NVIDIA for you.
[16:47] <anon_031> yeah :( isn't there some way in 3.11+ to use advanced power management tools for gpus?
[16:47] <phunyguy> the vendor probably knows :)
[16:47] <phunyguy> aside from that, I have no idea
[16:52] <sauraedron> any1?
[16:52] <phunyguy> sauraedron: I answered you....
[16:52] <s12> change the shortcuts to something else
[16:53] <s12> something that wont affect what you need
[16:53] <phunyguy> I told you where to find the shortcuts.... change them.
[16:53] <phunyguy> or delete.
[16:53] <s12> ^ or that
[16:54] <sauraedron> @phunguy - stupid of me..
[16:54] <sauraedron> thanks :)
[16:54] <phunyguy> also, you don't need the @.  This isn't twitter  ;)
[16:54] <sauraedron> tschh .. :D
[16:55] <jpedroza2k> Good morning. I just installed Pulseaudio 5 from the ppa in an attempt to stop my bluetooth headset from stuttering while listening to music. Now I can pair the headset, but it doesn't show up in sound settings. I have reset the bluetooth adapter, re-paired the headset, but all to no avail. Still no sound from headset. Is there a way to revert back to version 4 of pulseaudio, or is there a better way to fix this issue?
[16:55] <sauraedron> phunyguy, one more some shorcuts dont work (app based) like ctrl+shift+u in qtcreator
[16:55] <sauraedron> is it something i need to configure ?
[16:55] <phunyguy> sauraedron: there is probably some app-specific config, yes
[16:55] <phunyguy> that I can't help with.
[16:56] <sauraedron> ohk , thanks a lot :)
[16:58] <notmoose> hello all, my laptop goes into suspend mode after ~5min of doing nothing, even when its plugged in, while im watching a move
[16:58] <Beldar> jpedroza2k, Try looking in the terminal by running alsamixer
[16:58] <notmoose> how can i disable the suspend mode?
[16:58] <notmoose> ive already set the power management to Don't suspend, yet its still going in suspend mode after 5min
[16:59] <jpedroza2k> Beldar: I see Headphone 1 and Headphone, but only one can be controled (Headphone) which appears to be the hard wired headphone jack.
[17:00] <Beldar> jpedroza2k, Not really an issue I can help with other than the mixer.
[17:01] <Beldar> jpedroza2k, YOu can do a ppa-purge to get back to the ubuntu repos that the PPA changed.
[17:01] <Beldar> !ppa-purge | jpedroza2k
[17:01] <notmoose> guys please does anyone know how to disable suspend/sleep mode?
[17:02] <jpedroza2k> notmoose: System Settings->Power
[17:02] <iliv> any rsyslog users around?
[17:03] <iliv> when using imfile, is there a way to avoid writing to default /var/log/syslog and directly send messages to centralised log server?
[17:03] <iliv> so, what I'd like to do is on the client monitor a file with imfile, NOT write anything to syslog files on the client, and push that file's lines to a remote log server instead
[17:03] <notmoose> jpedroza2k: ive already tried that one, it still goes to suspend mode after 5min of not doing anything
[17:04] <jpedroza2k> notmoose: Not sure then. Did you make the change to both on battery and plugged in?
[17:04] <notmoose> yes i did
[17:05] <notmoose> the screen is plugged in to my tv though from my laptop, not sure if that matters
[17:05] <jpedroza2k> notmoose: Then I sadly must give you support answer #112: It works for me.
[17:05] <jpedroza2k> :(
[17:05] <notmoose> it mainly happends when im watching something with flash in fullscreen
[17:05] <notmoose> ah shit
[17:06] <notmoose> not the answer i was looking for :)
[17:06] <kookster> anyone know how i can close a ssh session based off the IP address that its connected to with?
[17:07] <kookster> im using "netstat -tnpa | grep ESTABLISHED.*sshd" to get all the connected SSH sessions
[17:07] <phunyguy> notmoose: please watch your language
[17:07] <Beldar> notmoose, Please keep the language clean. One of the keys for help here is details, like the release and desktop should be in your inquiry. Also be aware this is free help and has a wait time while people come on the channel and or understand and you have provided enough details. ;)
[17:08] <Pici> kookster: You could check the output of who, and then grep the output of psaux for that pts/number (killing the associated sshd process should do the trick)
[17:09] <kookster> could you type that out for me? I am really new to linux
[17:09] <mitch-_> does anyone know about time zone automatically changing?
[17:09] <d4rks1d3r> can anyone point me to a good tutorial for compiling a kernel under ubuntu?
[17:10] <OerHeks> d4rks1d3r, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/BuildYourOwnKernel
[17:10] <kookster> o gosh
[17:10] <kookster> i see
[17:11] <d4rks1d3r> OerHecks: thanks, i want to be able to customize it (e.g. using menuconfig)
[17:12] <kookster> ugh i really need to lock this server down. It looks like there are atleast 4 bots trying to bruteforce into it :/
[17:13] <samthewildone> Is the channel fixed ?
[17:13] <Pici> kookster: You may want to look into fail2ban.
[17:13] <Pici> samthewildone: yes.
[17:13] <samthewildone> Pici, was tweaking ubuntu while waiting'
[17:13] <samthewildone> :|
[17:13] <kookster> to the googles! thanks Pici
[17:14] <Pici> kookster: the default configuration it comes with in Ubuntu is usually good enough for most people too :)
[17:14] <samthewildone> Is USB3.0 supported ?
[17:14] <samthewildone> especially charging and file transfer ?
[17:14] <samthewildone> I have the Note 3 for quite a while and wondered if those features work on 14.04.1
[17:15] <s12> mitch-_ why does it have to be automatic?
[17:16] <mitch-_> s12, because i travel for my job quite a bit. and i have my VM (windows) running the correct time off of the host system. and i want my calendar to be correct for meetings and such.
[17:16] <SchrodingersScat> samthewildone: usb3.0 works on mine
[17:17] <samthewildone> Unable to mount SAMSUNG Android; Unable to open MTP device '[usb:009,002]'
[17:17] <samthewildone> This is the error I get after selecting (Media device (USD 3.0)) on my Note 3
[17:18] <Beldar> samthewildone, what android and ubuntu release?
[17:18] <samthewildone> Latest release of ubuntu and android 4.4.2 KitKat
[17:19] <Beldar> samthewildone, You have the developers on the android usb debugg ticked?
[17:19] <mjrbordo> what if md5 checksum is fine with mine iso and it doesnt run on rebooting ?
[17:19] <mjrbordo> im talking about iso on DVDrom
[17:20] <emx> http://pastie.org/9453579 why?
[17:20] <Beldar> samthewildone, Developer options that is.
[17:20] <samthewildone> Beldar, nope
[17:20] <samthewildone> Beldar, not on.
[17:20] <emx> the command: apt-get install apache2-mpm-itk
[17:21] <Beldar> samthewildone, Try that you have to tap an area 7 times to show the option have you done this and are you familiar with this?
[17:21] <samthewildone> Why would I need to turn it on ?
[17:22] <samthewildone> all I want to do is transfer files through usb3.0 via my computer / phone.
[17:22] <Beldar> samthewildone, some androids it needs to be to use the usb, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XcFVRDZ5Z9Q
[17:23] <aliteralmind> Finally made it through the Django/Digital Ocean/Ubuntu muck. Here's a blog post all about it: http://goo.gl/33IlDu
[17:23] <trijntje> nice clickbait aliteralmind, why don't you go away?
[17:24] <liam> Hey  guys...I started the  LFS101x Introduction to Linux course, through the Linux foundation . Kinda excited...anyone else did it? I hope to eventually work somehow in Linux and figured this a good introduction. Any opinions?
[17:24] <trijntje> !offtopic | liam
[17:24] <SchrodingersScat> he actually was talking about blogging that yesterday, probably still !ot
[17:24] <aliteralmind> trijntje: I went through a lot of conversations yesterday on this group regarding this. People helped me. I'm showing them the results. By all means don't click on it.
[17:25] <liam> apologies, thanks anyway.
[17:25] <samthewildone> okay I enable the dev options and usb 3 still doesn't work.
[17:25] <trijntje> aliteralmind: I'm sorry. Its just that there's this spammer that does the same thing, joins the channel, and pastes an obfuscated link with some 'catchy' title ;)
[17:26] <theseb> why 1st terminal i open is SLOOOOW but then i open second and it is responsive? happens ALL THE TIME NOW
[17:27] <aliteralmind> trijntje: NP. Here's the full link: http://aliteralmind.wordpress.com/2014/08/07/doingthedeepdowndiggitydivewithdjangoanddigitalocean/
[17:27] <x9> Okay, I'm having a strange glitch in Xubuntu 14.04.1...
[17:27] <x9> I was playing osu! under Wine when suddenly the computer locked up, Ctrl+Alt+F1 wasn't even going to a terminal.
[17:28] <SchrodingersScat> aliteralmind: curl -I can also get the header so you know where shorturls might lead
[17:28] <x9> So I did a soft reset, and then after rebooting, the screen went black after logging in. I was able to get to a terminal with CTRL,ALT,F1 though, and did another soft reset.
[17:29] <trijntje> theseb: caching. If you have already opened something it is in the computer memory instead of on the harddisk, thats why its fast
[17:29] <x9> The second reboot didn't even go to the login screen, and I wasn't getting a terminal. Rebooted into Recovery mode, and went to "Normal" boot, and finally it loads, but now I don't have an output to my second monitor and my background was reset to default.
[17:30] <x9> I'm going to try rebooting one more time, after I install irssi
[17:30] <Beldar> samthewildone, So you are not new here, we use nicks as a preface when addressing others. Did you check the box in the options for usb debugging, and unmount the usb and plug it back in?
[17:31] <theseb> trijntje: thanks...but even after launches the terminal is sTILL unresponsive like cpu is overloaded
[17:31] <theseb> trijntje: if i kill it and start 2nd one after loading it is responsive
[17:31] <aeyesi> um... does someone experience with 5:1 sound (yesh once again xD)
[17:31] <aeyesi> ?
[17:32] <Beldar> aeyesi, address the actual issue for help.
[17:33] <aeyesi> ok, how to enable 5.1 sound ? ^^
[17:33] <aeyesi> I am not sure anymore if ubuntu have pulseaudio or alsa by default (old wikis says pulse but it seems i have only alsa) but meh
[17:33] <s12> google didn't return anything for that search?
[17:33] <Beldar> aeyesi, Ubuntu release and desktop is important.
[17:34] <aeyesi> 14.04.1
[17:34] <aeyesi> It does ... but many of them are somewhat old ~
[17:35] <aeyesi> So i am just askin just for sure,...
[17:35] <samthewildone> Beldar, yes
[17:35] <pbx> in ubuntu 14.04, how do i remove Thunderbird from the little-envelope menu in the upper right?
[17:36] <Beldar> samthewildone, Thanks, not sure beyond that. There are wifi apps on google play that work
[17:36] <aeyesi> Beldar ... at least,,, alsa or pulseaudio is by default?
[17:39] <aeyesi> since /etc/pulse/daemon.conf does not exist i guess alsa
[17:39] <Beldar> aeyesi, So my contact with you was primarily a help for you to get help, not an area I really know, however here is a link since we do not know what you have tried so far, no details from you. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DigitalAC-3Pulseaudio
[17:39] <aeyesi> So i have to install pulseaudio i guess
[17:40] <aeyesi> mm
[17:40] <trism> pbx: in dconf-editor: com/canonical/indicator/messages and then remove the thunderbird.desktop from applications then run: restart unity-panel-service
[17:40] <Beldar> aeyesi, it is installed, that link shows dependencies.
[17:41] <trism> pbx: although if you run thunderbird again, it will probably return
[17:41] <Beldar> aeyesi, Be careful here and document any changes.
[17:41] <pbx> thanks trism
[17:47] <nutzz> is there any way to grop commands? like curly braces in programming?
[17:48] <MonkeyDust> nutzz  you mean grep?
[17:48] <SchrodingersScat> nutzz: there are functions within bash, yes  grop(){ echo "This is grop" } ; grop
[17:48] <nutzz> sorry I mean group
[17:49] <MonkeyDust> nutzz  there's also #bash
[17:49] <nutzz> ok
[17:49] <SchrodingersScat> nutzz: grop() { echo "This is grop"; } ; grop #needed a ; after the echo
[17:49] <s12>  
[17:50] <quantibility> who directed me yesterday to sounb? i reinstalled and i need some help remembering things
[17:51] <quantibility> for instance where did all my ubuntu software go? how do i update that?
[17:51] <nutzz> SchrodingersScat: This doesn't output anyhing grop() { echo "test";  echo "a"; echo "b"; }
[17:51] <SchrodingersScat> nutzz: you didn't call the function
[17:52] <SchrodingersScat> nutzz: when you enter 'grop' in the same terminal it should echo the test, a, b, etc.
[17:52] <nutzz> woo,
[17:52] <nutzz> this is realy cool
[17:52] <SchrodingersScat> nutzz: functions are like setting a variable, in bash, sort of..
[17:52] <Ycarene> is libxml2-dev broken?
[17:52] <SchrodingersScat> more like an alias
[17:53] <SchrodingersScat> nutzz: http://mywiki.wooledge.org/BashGuide
[17:53] <nutzz> SchrodingersScat: thanks
[17:54] <Guest74506> Ycarene: define?
[17:54] <SchrodingersScat> nutzz: welcome, have fun
[17:54] <Ycarene> Attempting to install dvd95 via source, results in /usr/bin/ld: ../dvdauthor/.libs/libauthor.a(readxml.o): undefined reference to symbol 'xmlTextReaderIsEmptyElement@@LIBXML2_2.4.30' even though I have libxml2 installed.
[17:56] <Ycarene> re-installing the library doesn't work.
[17:59] <MonkeyDust> Ycarene  what is the output of   cat /etc/issue
[18:02] <Ycarene> Linux Mint 17 Qiana \n \l
[18:02] <MonkeyDust> Ycarene  mint is not supportede here
[18:02] <bazhang> !mintsupport | Ycarene
[18:02] <quantibility> I can't log into SU?
[18:03] <quantibility> someone help?
[18:04] <soman> How to make mic on my webcam logitec work in skype? Xubuntu 14.04.1,  3.13.0-32-generic #57-Ubuntu SMP, skype 4.3. VIdeo works but sound doesn't. With 12.04 mic and mic were working well
[18:04] <Rug> I have squid3 running on one of my servers and it is working as a proxy. BUT as soon as I enable 'transparent' it fails to operate.  any suggestions?
[18:04] <Rug> http_port 8888  <- works      http_port 8888 transparent  <- does not work
[18:04] <quantibility> su problem? how do i fix?
[18:04] <MonkeyDust> Rug  better ask in #ubuntu-server
[18:04] <soman> alsamixer shows that sound is realtec ALC850
[18:04] <Rug> MonkeyDust: thanks
[18:10] <supercom32> When using the "blkid" command, what TYPE shows up for devices which are unformatted without any file system? Does anyone know?
[18:15] <geirha> supercom32: it simply won't show up in blkid at all
[18:17] <mitch-_> my request for a time zone automatically changing isn't possible with Ubuntu 14.04 is it.... there's no daemon that i could switch to from the standard one that woudl have it?
[18:19] <MonkeyDust> !ntp | mitch-_ start here
[18:20] <mikemarsh> how do i add facebook integration into gnome shell on ubuntu 14.04?
[18:21] <potato_farmer> Is there a room for Ubuntu MAAS assistance? Or is this it?
[18:23] <MonkeyDust> maas
[18:23] <MonkeyDust> !maas
[18:23] <mitch-_> MonkeyDust, thank you but. that has no feature to automatically set the time zone based on current location. (IE i'm traveling to EST right now and my clock is still set to my home time zone... CST)
[18:24] <mitch-_> it can SHOW me the time zone i'm in based on location. but not SET my clock based on that. :(
[18:24] <EsoRotica> Hi there: I'm attempting to move an extended partition into some unallocated space (Windows -> blank -> ubuntu ->blank) on my disk via GParted on the liveCD. However when I use Gparted, it never finishes scanning the drive. I've also attempted from the command line with the same result
[18:25] <EsoRotica> Gparted from the install works fine, its when I use the LiveCD that the scan does not complete*
[18:26] <frainfreeze> I didn't know anything about ubuntu while installing, now I am in this hoples mess, I need help, so I had windows7 when I decided to install ubuntu, I installed it and updated it up to 13.04 then I had problems and was offline. When I came back my disto was EOL. can I now burn lts 14 to cd and switch 13.04 with 14?
[18:27] <tac-tics> Does anyone have any ideas on why my Wifi might suddenly stop working after a while?
[18:27] <EsoRotica> frainfreeze: Is Windows still on the disk as well?
[18:29] <frainfreeze> Yes
[18:29] <frainfreeze> I can't make backup
[18:29] <frainfreeze> And that is basicly my whole lif work in 100gb windows
[18:29] <MonkeyDust> frainfreeze  you can do that, it will work, but you simply cannot upgrade or install something new
[18:29] <EsoRotica> frainfreeze: Thats fine. I'm assuming you paritioned off some space for Ubuntu to begin with. Do you have file there you need to save?
[18:29] <indoctrinated> tac-tics: what are you doing before your Wi-Fi drops? Is it the connection, or do you lose the device?
[18:30] <frainfreeze> So I can install 14 over 13? I wont loose windows files?
[18:30] <tac-tics> indoctrinated: Nothing in particular. Last night, I lost it while editing a text file, not doing any other work
[18:30] <frainfreeze> For ubuntu ones , it is not problem everything is mostly python and some of platform inependent c++, I need to keep windows working
[18:30] <MonkeyDust> frainfreeze  if you have a separate /home
[18:31] <tac-tics> this laptop (not ubuntu) has had no trouble the last few days with it. Wireless modem is in the same room (literally 4 feet from the laptop)
[18:31] <MonkeyDust> frainfreeze  if you have no important documents in ubuntu, choose "something else" and fresh install 14.04
[18:31] <EsoRotica> frainfreeze: Well, there are a few ways to go about it... I would say the something else method on the CD
[18:31] <mjrbordo> ok i downloaded iso from official ubuntu.com (14.04.1) and i burn it on dvd. Why it not booting?
[18:32] <indoctrinated> Did you lose the device, or just the connection? (ex. is wifi0 still there in ifconfig?)
[18:32] <tac-tics> ahh
[18:32] <kamirpc> Hello guys :)
[18:32] <Guest82383> What can I use to draw a shape in onCreateView in a fragment. I mean I can use a Button that has no listener but it seems like a poor solution, what is used to just draw a shape?
[18:32] <tac-tics> hmm. I never saw a wifi0. Is that distinct from wlan0?
[18:32] <EsoRotica> frainfreeze: if the intsall isnt borked, you could in theoretically just dist-upgrade
[18:32] <indoctrinated> they're the same. It depends on how you want to name the device
[18:32] <Beldar> mjrbordo, Did you set the dvd to be first read in the bios
[18:32] <tac-tics> Whatever the default is then
[18:33] <Guest82383> Why does a button with the same width and height result in an oval shape and not a circle (it uses an OvalShape drawable as background)?
[18:33] <tac-tics> wlan0 is still around
[18:33] <tac-tics> so I didn't lose the device
[18:33] <mjrbordo> Beldar yes of course
[18:33] <frainfreeze> So when I run instalation, is there anything special i have to do and keep eye on? And can I remove 13 after installing 14 , as it is laptop with only 250gb of space
[18:33] <compdoc> Guest82383, sounds like screen rez is wrong
[18:33] <mjrbordo> first dvd then usb then "hdd" cuz i got ssd :)
[18:33] <Beldar> mjrbordo, Burned as an image? Can you describe not booting from you end?
[18:34] <EsoRotica> Guest82383: http://developer.android.com/guide/topics/resources/drawable-resource.html
[18:34] <indoctrinated> Does NetworkManager show available networks?
[18:34] <Guest82383> What is that you do ComplexType or TypedValue?
[18:34] <Rohan_m> I need Help with my internet connection on ubuntu
[18:35] <mjrbordo> yep when i open dvd in windows i see ubuntu-xxx.iso
[18:35] <Guest82383> to use dp and sp in code?
[18:35] <tac-tics> indoctrinated: yes, it does
[18:35] <tac-tics> indoctrinated: including the one that disconnects me
[18:35] <Beldar> mjrbordo, preface with nicks please, did you burn the iso as an image?
[18:35] <indoctrinated> If you see networks in NetworkManager but keep getting disconnected, it may be wireless noise. I have that problem in my apartment.
[18:35] <EsoRotica> frainfreeze: Sorry, I must have misunderstood something. Did you say you DO have documents to save in the 14 installation?
[18:35] <Bombo> i'm trying to set my screen resolution to 1360x768 (16:9) using the nvidia control panel on ubuntu 14.04, but it fails: Xorg.0.log says '(II) NVIDIA(0): Virtual screen size determined to be 1360 x 768' but later '(II) NVIDIA(0): Setting mode "DVI-I-1: nvidia-auto-select @1024x768 +0+0"' so i end up in 1024x786. this is my conf: http://bombo.jpe.gs/x11/xorg.conf log: http://bombo.jpe.gs/x11/Xorg.0.log
[18:35] <indoctrinated> Try changing the channel on your router
[18:36] <tac-tics> indoctrinated: is there a reason I'm having an issue with Ubuntu and not with any windows machines I have or with my Chromebook?
[18:36] <Rohan_m> Any networking expert I need Help with my internet connection on ubuntu
[18:36] <indoctrinated> If your router allows it, try using the 5GHz band too
[18:36] <MonkeyDust> Rohan_m  ask and wait
[18:36] <tac-tics> thanks. I'll try it out
[18:36] <indoctrinated> No problem.
[18:36] <mjrbordo> Beldar i think yes. When i open a disc its 1 file called exacly as i downloaded it
[18:36] <indoctrinated> Rohan_m send me a private message real quick
[18:37] <frainfreeze> EsoRotica, no I must keep windows intact, only windows, and i have 13.04 , I want to put 14.04 instead it
[18:37] <frainfreeze> EsoRotica, I can not make back up and windows stuff is whole life work
[18:37] <Beldar> mjrbordo, should be burned as an image sounds like you just transfered the iso to the dvd.
[18:37] <mjrbordo> Beldar so how i should burn that as an image?
[18:38] <EsoRotica> frainfreeze: working with partitions is always a dangerous task, have you tried to attempt to update the ubuntu intall via package manager?
[18:38] <mjrbordo> Beldar so how i can burn it as an image?
[18:38] <Beldar> mjrbordo, http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop/burn-a-dvd-on-windows
[18:38] <Rohan_m> indoctrinated: I just switched to new ISP (optical fibre) it works fine on  windows but when i'm ubuntu i'm unable to connect to some website like facebook and servers on other locations also same happens in my android phone even for whatsapp but on windows stuuf works fine , when i change the connection to different ISP's line it works fine on Ubuntu and android what si problem
[18:39] <frainfreeze> EsoRotica, no as I don't know anything about OS-es expecialy not unix, i was window suser for years, trying to switch on buntu
[18:39] <EsoRotica> frainfreeze: YAY for that!
[18:39] <Beldar> frainfreeze, Do you have windows imaged/cloned and or backed up?
[18:39] <EsoRotica> frainfreeze: There are a few ways to do it. If I remember correctly you can do it through the GUI or you can run commands in the terminal. Let me check the GUI way
[18:40] <indoctrinated> Hmm.
[18:40] <mjrbordo> Beldar thx for help. I know i'm retard :D and i read tutorials in english when i have Polish language on system so sometimes i dont notice the most simple solutuions :D
[18:40] <EsoRotica> Beldar: No, and he said he cant.
[18:40] <Beldar> mjrbordo, No problem, your doing fine by asking fine help. ;)
[18:40] <frainfreeze> EsoRotica, yeah ubuntu rocks, it is epic.... I love it! As soon i do this I will abandon windows bt it has to work
[18:41] <Rohan_m> I just switched to new ISP (optical fibre) it works fine on  windows but when i'm ubuntu i'm unable to connect to some website like facebook and servers on other locations also same happens in my android phone even for whatsapp but on windows stuuf works fine , when i change the connection to different ISP's line it works fine on Ubuntu and android what is the  problem?
[18:41] <Beldar> EsoRotica, Just noticed the issue we get many here who don't is all.
[18:41] <EsoRotica> frainfreeze: http://www.themukt.com/2014/06/17/upgrade-ubuntu-14-04-lts-previous-versions/
[18:41] <frainfreeze> Beldar no I have no possiblities for that
[18:41] <EsoRotica> frainfreeze: disregard that
[18:41] <indoctrinated> GAH! I have to run to lunch. Rohan_m, shoot me a PM on twitter. (@alexthejourno) and I'll see if I can figure it out later (or you can ask someone here, if it's urgent)
[18:41] <Beldar> EsoRotica,This is a channel where as peers we work together so don't freak out if someone chimes in. ;)
[18:42] <EsoRotica> Beldar: I was not freaking out in any ways, just getting you up to speed*
[18:42] <EsoRotica> frainfreeze: I meant to send you this. http://www.tuxtrix.com/2014/03/upgrade-from-ubuntu-1304-to-ubuntu-1404.html
[18:43] <frainfreeze> oh, ok
[18:44] <EsoRotica> frainfreeze: you an not likely tro have installed third party PPAs unless you've opened the terminal at some point to get some newer versions of software installed. It sounded like you didnt spend much time in Ubuntu... Is that the case?
[18:45] <frainfreeze> Actualy I messed alot... Even switched to old archive to get things
[18:45] <Guest82383> if i want to draw a shapedrawable, what do I use? can I use just View? and have the shapedrawable as bg ?
[18:45] <frainfreeze> I update everythign to latest, installed some dev tools etc.
[18:45] <EsoRotica> frainfreeze: Okay, Then maybe a fresh install would be best afterall.
[18:46] <mjrbordo> Beldar i dont have first option on my win 8.1 Pro O.o but I downloaded infra instead
[18:47] <frainfreeze> Any leads? Somethign to keep eye on? I realy realy have only one copy of windows work wich I made in last 4 years... That must stay intact, EsoROtica
[18:57] <s12>  
[19:00] <phunyguy> s12: can we help you with something? I noticed several times now where you just entered a blank line.
[19:01] <Rohan_m> I just switched to new ISP (optical fibre) it works fine on  windows but when i'm ubuntu i'm unable to connect to some website like facebook and servers on other locations also same happens in my android phone even for whatsapp but on windows stuuf works fine , when i change the connection to different ISP's line it works fine on Ubuntu and android what si problem
[19:01] <s12> phunyguy Sorry resting on the keyboard, moving things around, will avoid in future
[19:01] <phunyguy> s12: no worries, was just checking.
[19:07] <streulma> Hello, what is better to use for me? HP 17 inch notebook with normal HDD and Ubuntu, or Macbook Pro 13 with SSD and HDD with Ubuntu?
[19:09] <bprompt> streulma:    better is always relative.... it depends on a variety of other factors... I mean 17" screen is a nice screen real estate... you can fit lots of things at the same time there..... then again an SSD is smoking fast... but 13" screen is, well..  13"
[19:10] <streulma> bprompt smoking fast ?
[19:10] <bprompt> streulma:   yeap
[19:10] <streulma> yes but is it Done to install Ubuntu on a Macbook Pro ?
[19:10] <bprompt> ?
[19:10] <bprompt> is it done?
[19:11] <streulma> bprompt, yes, if I come elsewhere, then they see Ubuntu instead of OSX :D
[19:11] <bprompt> streulma:    well.... so... that's ok.... I'd think
[19:11] <bprompt> unless you want to "keep up with the joneses"
[19:12] <s12> dual boot!
[19:12] <bprompt> yeap.. you can always just install both, macOSX and *nix
[19:12] <MonkeyDust> bprompt  "smoking fast", "keep up with the joneses"... what do you mean?
[19:12] <bprompt> hehhe
[19:14] <bprompt> smoking fast   [19:15] <s12> Is there an ideal platform for creating desktop widgets on ubuntu?
[19:15] <preyalone> Is there a package for the original Bourne shell?
[19:16] <s12> Hold that thought, solved now
[19:24] <sudoritz> Quiestion for sudoers file
[19:24] <sudoritz> i treid added a user to the file (and it still wont let me login sudo su -
[19:24] <sudoritz> visudo
[19:24] <sudoritz> i even added a new gorup and added user to that group
[19:24] <sudoritz> and it still shows is not in the sudoers file.
[19:25] <sudoritz> even did this as the group
[19:25] <sudoritz> %sudoresolve ALL=(ALL) ALL
[19:25] <sudoritz> resolve	ALL=(ALL) 	ALL
[19:25] <MonkeyDust> sudoritz  don't abuse the enter key, it has rights too
[19:26] <SchrodingersScat> sudoritz: and you are user 'resolve'?
[19:30] <OldOneEye> hi i just installed fall back gnome, how do i delete the others?
[19:30] <icetea_> hi
[19:31] <MonkeyDust> OldOneEye  you don't, simply logout, switch, login
[19:32] <PCworker> Hello, Is it possible to upgrade Ubuntu 12.04 LTS straight to the new Ubuntu 14.04 LTS?
[19:32] <OldOneEye> i have but i wanna remove them and keep just fallback
[19:32] <icetea_> I have an issue with an Ubuntu VM (KVM). A Ubuntu ISO is attached (can't remove it since I don't have access to it) and when I reboot the ISO is booted. If I select boot from local drive there it starts grub. Is there a way from Ubuntu or grub to disable the ISO boot before grub? The BIOS is SeaBIOS or sth like that.
[19:33] <xangua> PCworker: you can upgrade from LTS to LTS, yes
[19:33] <xangua> OldOneEye: 'others' what? what do you wanna delete
[19:35] <qtros> Hi all
[19:35] <PCworker> xangua: How do I go about doing that? I tried the update manager, but all it shows is a non-LTS version.
[19:35] <qtros> I installed nvidia drivers v331 via Update Manager
[19:35] <qtros> Now I have unbootable system :D
[19:36] <qtros> Have Nvidia GT 240
[19:36] <daftykins> PCworker: you need to set to LTS only
[19:37] <daftykins> icetea_: is it a VPS from a provider?
[19:37] <icetea_> daftykins: Yes.
[19:37] <PCworker> daftykins: Duh, brain fart, Sorry for wasting your time.
[19:37] <icetea_> But with a control panel where I can't detach the ISO.
[19:37] <OldOneEye> i wanna delete the other desktops in login screen and keep fallback
[19:37] <mjrbordo> I've got Acer Aspire E1-572G and brightness setting doesnt work on Fn +\- keys
[19:38] <daftykins> icetea_: contact them to unmount it...
[19:38] <levo> how possible is this: i got a pdf opened in evince, i want to highlight some text and after right-clicking or pressing some combination keys, append the selected texts to a pre-determined file.
[19:38] <daftykins> icetea_: what you have asked is KVM/VPS support, not ubuntu support :)
[19:39] <mjrbordo> sb help ?
[19:39] <xangua> OldOneEye: what desktops¿
[19:39] <OldOneEye> at login
[19:39] <OldOneEye> ubuntu 2d 3d etc
[19:40] <daftykins> mjrbordo: *FIRST* google result - http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2192280
[19:40] <xangua> OldOneEye: just leave them there ald you'll be OK
[19:40] <bprompt> levo:    are you doing bookmarks by any chance?
[19:40] <OldOneEye> ok
[19:40] <reactormonk> I'm in an ubuntu chrot from an usb stick and moving my data from one harddisk to another. But the chroot doesn't have grub-install. how do I install the bootloader on the new harddisk?
[19:41] <levo> bprompt: i'm selecting the english words i don't know the meaning of and need to have em all gathered in one file for reviewing purposes.
[19:41] <PCworker> daftkins: It is there now. I will do the upgrade tonight.
[19:41] <daftykins> reactormonk: you don't run grub-install from inside the chroot, but outside on the device
[19:42] <reactormonk> daftykins, well, outside there's an arch because that's what I had handy.
[19:42] <daftykins> "there's an arch" ? do you mean you're booted with Arch Linux media? can't help you then.
[19:42] <daftykins> reactormonk: ^
[19:42] <levo> i have an idea. all the selected text goes to a buffer. so it's possible to get that buffer using XX command and writing a script and setting a key combination for that script.
[19:43] <reactormonk> daftykins, hm, sad. looks like I'll have to install grub-install inside the chroot then.
[19:43] <daftykins> that's no hardship.
[19:44] <levo> suppose i select some texts, is there any commands that gives me the selected text?
[19:44] <daftykins> levo: 'gives' ? you mean like ctrl+C? :)
[19:44] <bprompt> levo:   ctrl-c   =)
[19:44] <daftykins> hehe bprompt ^5
[19:44] <MonkeyDust> OldOneEye  /usr/share/xsessions/ contains the entries ... in a terminal, paste this line: sudo cp /usr/share/xsessions/ /usr/share/xsessions_backup/      then delete the entries you want from /usr/share/xsessions/
[19:45] <levo> daftykins: no when you just highlight some texts it goes to the clipboard
[19:45] <levo> and this is different from ctrl+c 's clipboard address
[19:46] <MonkeyDust> OldOneEye  forget what I said, it doesnt work
[19:47] <PCworker> is there a list of the "most commonly used" command line commands? The ones that even the experts use regularly?
[19:48] <MonkeyDust> PCworker  sudo is quite common
[19:49] <pbx> PCworker, any unix/linux intro will cover the important basics.  E.g. http://www.ee.surrey.ac.uk/Teaching/Unix/
[19:49] <reactormonk> which package contains grub-install ?
[19:49] <tomhfife> I am able to connect to certain WiFi access points when I boot from the Ubuntu Live USB, but not when booting into my normal Ubuntu installation. Wifi works for some access points but not others, I believe the problem is related to not connecting to wireless N
[19:49] <tomhfife> I have a Broadcom wireless chip
[19:49] <pdo_fn14> Need to opening update-manager manually in standard users?. IMHO I never know doing manually
[19:49] <OerHeks> your most used bash comands > history | awk '{CMD[$2]++;count++;}END { for (a in CMD)print CMD[a] " " CMD[a]/count*100 "% " a;}' | grep -v "./" | column -c3 -s " " -t | sort -nr | nl |  head -n10
[19:49] <tomhfife> anyone have any ideas about taht?
[19:50] <daftykins> tomhfife: yeah, likely your broadcom device has poor drivers. have you seen the broadcom link?
[19:51] <daftykins> !broadcom | tomhfife
[19:51] <rasputin> idk
[19:51] <bprompt> levo:    have you looked into Klipper? maybe
[19:51] <mjrbordo> anybody know how to edit /etc/default/grub ?
[19:51] <rasputin> helol
[19:51] <bprompt> !klipper | levo
[19:51] <rasputin> hello
[19:51] <daftykins> rasputin: yes?
[19:51] <levo> bprompt; thanks, another pal suggested me xclip
[19:51] <tomhfife> daftykins: thank you. I guess I need to use the older drivers that are on the Live Disc, I'll check the link. Thanks!
[19:52] <pdo_fn14> Manually to refreshing db like apt-get update
[19:52] <pdo_fn14> I'm mean
[19:52] <bprompt> levo:    you can set Klipper's "history count"  to have as many entries in it...so it doesn't remove entries till it gets to that "history count" value....which means you can tell it 1,000 and it will simply pile up 1,000 from the clipboard buffer
[19:52] <PCworker> MonkeyDust: and pbx: Yeah, I am studying the Terminal commands for command line usage. I want to be able to contribute to this OS and have the knowledge to be able to Use, Repair and Maintain anything and everything about it.
[19:53] <bprompt> levo:    it also allows "commands" to be executed and strings replacement on-the-fly using regexs
[19:53] <levo> bprompt: thanks, i'm taking a look @ it
[19:54] <bprompt> levo:   and Klipper's history is accessible also through the "edit contents" option
[19:54] <PCworker> And Ubuntu Support has been a tremendous help to me since I became a Serious Linux User.
[19:59] <shabeo> Hello!
[20:00] <shabeo> i... got a question
[20:00] <shabeo> is there an IRC channel for kali linux?
[20:00] <daftykins> !alis | shabeo
[20:00] <kostkon> !kali
[20:02] <Alchemico> hey
[20:02] <Alchemico> anyone?
[20:02] <daftykins> anyone what?
[20:02] <daftykins> ask a question if you have one.
[20:04] <shabeo> !kali
[20:05] <shabeo> !alis
[20:05] <daftykins> shabeo: stop making the bot repeat please, you've already seen that output
[20:10] <user01> hey im having proxy problems in xfce
[20:10] <user01> for google-chrome
[20:11] <user01> usr/bin/google-chrome --proxy-auto-detect doesnt seem to work
[20:11] <user01> works fine in firefox
[20:11] <user01> is there something else to try?
[20:12] <user01> my env variables are set
[20:12] <user01> for proxy
[20:13] <Urchin[emacs]> user01: find proxy settings and punch in data manually?
[20:14] <user01> tried that too with --proxy-server
[20:15] <daftykins> user01: why are you trying to configure chrome via switches at run...?
[20:15] <PCworker> pbx: i went to that webpage you suggested and I appreciate it, much. That one is going to help a bunch. Thanks for the information.
[20:15] <daftykins> why not consult its' built-in settings...
[20:16] <user01> daftykins: it says . . . When running Google Chrome under a supported desktop environment, the system proxy settings will be used. However, either your system is not supported or there was a problem launching your system configuration.
[20:16] <user01> daftykins: it refers me to the man pages then
[20:16] <daftykins> user01: what is 'it' in this case?
[20:17] <user01> daftykins: when i click on change proxy settings under network in advanced settings
[20:17] <daftykins> of what...
[20:17] <user01> daftykins: chrome://settings/
[20:18] <daftykins> is there something wrong with configuring it manually?
[20:18] <user01> daftykins: manually where?
[20:18] <user01> daftykins: im using xfce
[20:18] <daftykins> *facepalm* i give up.
[20:19] <user01> daftykins: do you mean manually in google chrome?
[20:19] <daftykins> yes
[20:19] <user01> daftykins: that is chrome://settings/
[20:19] <user01> daftykins: what i just told you a few lines back
[20:19] <user01> daftykins: <user01> daftykins: it says . . . When running Google Chrome under a supported desktop environment, the system proxy settings will be used. However, either your system is not supported or there was a problem launching your system configuration.
[20:19] <daftykins> user01: right but that's for auto, why not just configure manually?
[20:20] <user01> daftykins: is there a different tab for configuring manually?
[20:20] <OerHeks> i think you must restart chrome, or logout/login to make it work, chrome keeps a process running even if you close it.
[20:21] <user01> daftykins: <user01> daftykins: when i click on change proxy settings under network in advanced settings
[20:21] <user01> daftykins: i got that message
[20:22] <daftykins> user01: sorry i give up, perhaps OerHeks can assist you further
[20:23] <user01> daftykins: so is there another place to configure manually other than advanced settings --> network --> Change proxy settings . . .
[20:23] <daftykins> do you not understand english? see above.
[20:23] <user01> daftykins: i was reponding to your previous comment
[20:23] <user01> daftykins: read my english
[20:23] <aalex> hello. I upload packages to Launchpad on my PPA, but the package don't show up: https://launchpad.net/~mapmap/+archive/ubuntu/mapmap/+packages
[20:24] <daftykins> user01: stop talking to me please
[20:25] <user01> daftykins: ditto to me too pls
[20:25] <daftykins> idiot.
[20:25] <user01> thanks!
[20:25] <user01> OerHeks: I restarted OerHeks
[20:25] <gorelative> anyone here familiar with nginx
[20:25] <OerHeks> aalex, https://help.launchpad.net/Packaging/BuildScores
[20:25] <user01> OerHeks: the same
[20:26] <daftykins> gorelative: either ask the actual question, which would be more appropriate in #ubuntu-server - or find their own channel
[20:26] <gorelative> thanks ill go to -server
[20:26] <user01> OerHeks: or it requires a complete system restart?
[20:27] <trism> aalex: did you check your email? the upload may have been rejected for a variety of reasons
[20:28] <OerHeks> user01, i am not sure, if setting a proxy needs system restart.
[20:29] <user01> OerHeks: hmmm ok thanks ill try a complete system restart . . . but i cant manually set inside chrome so ill have to launch as before will try thanks
[20:31] <Guest90382> Hello.  I have to do a dpfg grub configure with a boot cd since I cannot boot into ubuntu.  How do I make sure I dpkg configure on the correct partition where my bootloader is located?
[20:31] <Guest90382> Is there any way I can specify /dev/sda1 ?
[20:32] <aalex> trism: thank you!
[20:32] <aalex> It has been rejected. (Source/binary (i.e. mixed) uploads are not allowed.)
[20:32] <user1> test
[20:33] <aalex> So, now I should rebuild it using git-buildpackage as a source only build, perhaps
[20:34] <user01> OerHeks: rebooting did it with the command line option, thanks for your help
[20:35] <OerHeks> user01, have fun
[20:35] <user01> OerHeks: is it a google process that keeps running then?
[20:36] <user01> OerHeks: firefox had no such issue
[20:48] <s12> Is it possible to force a proccess to stop, ive tried the kill option even with sudo. Python debugger has stopped the whole python enviorment. Ubuntu 14.04
[20:51] <srepfler> hi, I have a desktop with two network interfaces eth0 and eth1. My IP address is assigned to eth0 via DHCP and is bound to it via it's MAC address. I would like to connect a Mac over eth1 which I would like to be able to access the network over eth0 (DHCP will not assign it an IP address). What's the best way to achieve this?
[20:51] <srepfler> I have the latest Ubuntu LTS
[20:51] <Badoo> Hello Can I get a registeration code
[20:56] <shmup_> any suggestions for sitting on the 'preparing to install ubuntu gnome' screen? i've googled, but it's a bunch of non-solutions :)
[20:56] <shmup_> tried silly things like ubiquity --debug, not checking the two optional checkboxes.
[20:59] <Shormax> Hi guys, can someone give me a good anti-malware for Ubuntu 14.04 pls ? :)
[21:00] <cybertails> Hello Folks...
[21:01] <cybertails> With Wubi, Why is there a Limit with 30GB for the install size?
[21:02] <Beldar> !av | Shormax
[21:03] <Beldar> cybertails, That is the way it was developed. By the way it is not under support per-say and is designed for a try out in lieu of a full install. It can be transfered to a partition.
[21:04] <cybertails> I was just wondering as I was thinking of installing it on a partition on my External Hard Drive, that's why I asked :)
[21:05] <Beldar> cybertails, When transfered it can be extended to any size you would like.
[21:05] <cybertails> kk
[21:05] <Beldar> same with an regular install cyber
[21:05] <Beldar> cybertails, ^^
[21:05] <Elena22>  Here some videos. I hope you like them! http://bitly.com/1nx3K4c
[21:06] <Beldar> Don't click on that anyone
[21:06] <cybertails> thanks for that, I think I'm going to do a dual-boot with the External Hard Drive having a seperate 100GB Partition (It's a 1TB Drive)
[21:07] <Beldar> cybertails, Would you like the transfer link?
[21:07] <Beldar> cybertails, An external is not the optimal use is all.
[21:07] <cybertails> Thanks for that, I'll be fine then
[21:07] <ahsm> hey guys
[21:08] <Beldar> cool
[21:08] <ahsm> is this a help channel?
[21:08] <Beldar> ahsm, ubuntu support.
[21:08] <ahsm> #ubuntu-support?
[21:09] <Beldar> !topic | ahsm
[21:09] <ahsm> sweet =)
[21:09] <ahsm> ok well i have a question, i need some support :P
[21:09] <shmup> okay. preparing to install ubuntu. ~30 minutes of overall waiting. working internet connection (talking to you through it). any suggestions?
[21:09] <compdoc> shmup, grab a beer too
[21:10] <shmup> i have a few bananas and some iced coffee
[21:10] <Beldar> shmup, Address any issue you need, without details it is our guess.
[21:10] <Landinius> Question: is there a way to expand the Terminal log so u can scroll way longer that i can right now?
[21:10] <chriys> hi guys, I just installed openssh-server but for some reason I get connection refused when to connect (ftp and ssh)
[21:10] <shmup> Beldar: there are no details in the situation of sitting at the Preparing to Install Ubuntu screen. it is a screen with two checkboxes for additional drivers, and a continue button.
[21:11] <Beldar> Landinius, in edit-profile preferences
[21:11] <ahsm> when i installed ubuntu after downloading latest version (14.04 LTS) everything was dope but then i updated it and the super key + W now crashes unity... what could this be?
[21:11] <Beldar> shmup, Do it from the live desktop.
[21:11] <user123321> what does the command "killall -0 {something}" do?
[21:11] <shmup> i've tried ubiquity --debug
[21:11] <shmup> Beldar: i am talking to you from live desktop
[21:13] <Beldar> shmup, Not sure I recognize that screen can you image it and post it in a imagebin? The install is pretty straight forward, if you have another OS there be sure it is imaged/cloned and or backed up, be prepared for any contingency.
[21:14] <shmup> this is a known issue since at least 12.04, but there are no known solutions. sure, i'll grab you a screenshot.
[21:14] <Beldar> shmup, cool and any links on the issue you see would be nice.
[21:14] <user123321> Does anyone know what does "killall -0 haproxy" mean? I couldn't see the killall command with -0 prefix in the manpage.
[21:15] <Beldar> !patience | user123321
[21:15] <chriys> hi guys, I just installed openssh-server but for some reason I get connection refused when to connect (ftp and ssh)
[21:15] <user123321> Oh ok, sry I thought no one noticed :D
[21:16] <shmup> Beldar: http://i.imgur.com/sIxIY8a.png
[21:17] <Beldar> shmup, Is this 14.10 or 14.04?
[21:17] <shmup> 14.04.1
[21:17] <Beldar> shmup, Cool is there an unallocated space for ubuntu?
[21:18] <shmup> Beldar: Oh, I thought that was a screen I'd get to after another continue, heh. I only just chose English for my language one click prior.
[21:19] <shmup> So maybe if I handle my partitions in Disks all will be well?
[21:19] <Beldar> shmup, Do you know what unallocated space means in this context? Is this a dual boot and if so with what exactly?
[21:19] <Guest2194> Hi.  Ive read a few google results about hard links. And I understand then as an inode pointing to a particular piece of data, exactly as a regular file. Does this "fool" my laptop into thinking it has less space than it does, as when I do a du from outside the folder, I get a sum of both files?
[21:19] <shmup> No, my space is all allowcated. I have an older build installed at the moment. I have a new SSD in here that I'm only going to install /home on.
[21:20] <shmup> allocated*
[21:20] <shmup> I just didn't know I had to prepare this ahead of time. I thought the installer brought you to a screen for that.
[21:21] <Beldar> shmup, allocated with what, my concern here is uefi/efi and gpt partitioning already there and any other OS's
[21:22] <shmup> They are already there, but are you saying that I can't get to the "Preparing disk space" process until I resolve something?
[21:22] <shmup> I'm going to just wipe out my drive that already has the gpt partitioning.
[21:23] <Beldar> shmup, We need to be on the same page, if you do not understand me address that.Yes there is a resize option, however if you have UEFI/efi this is a little different is all.
[21:24] <Landinius> thanks Beldar found it :)
[21:24] <Beldar> shmup> I'm going to just wipe out my drive that already has the gpt partitioning. YOU will still have a gpt partition table is all
[21:24] <Beldar> Landinius, Cool, no problem.
[21:25] <shmup> I need to determine if I have UEFI/efi
[21:26] <shmup> Is this an adequate way to determine? [ -d /sys/firmware/efi ] && echo UEFI || echo BIOS
[21:26] <Beldar> shmup, Was this a W8 or apple computer ever, UEFI is a different bios setup it is noticeable.
[21:27] <shmup> No, neither of those
[21:27] <Beldar> shmup, Not sure on the command, let be prompt the bot on uefi just for info.
[21:27] <Beldar> !uefi | shmup
[21:28] <Landinius> ok got another terminal question. is there a /? u can use to use to load one page at a time and resume by using "space" or something?
[21:28] <Beldar> shmup, Mainly since you asked for info, just trying to make sure your set is all.
[21:29] <shmup> Yeah cool cool. Does it help you if you know that I installed 13.10 last year the same way I'm attempting to install 14.04 now?
[21:29] <shmup> I'm reading wiki for UEFI, though
[21:29] <ahsm> when i installed ubuntu after downloading latest version (14.04 LTS) everything was dope but then i updated it and the super key + W now crashes unity... what could this be?
[21:30] <Beldar> shmup, Sounds like you know what is up than if you have installed previously.
[21:30] <shmup> Beldar: I just meant that does it mean anything if normal installer worked last time with an upgrade, heh
[21:30] <shmup> Beldar: Did not mean to give a tone of _I am experienced_. Was hoping that would clue some information.
[21:31] <samthewildone> how do I empty my trashcan when I have root access files in them >
[21:31] <Beldar> shmup, This uefi/efi stuff has been around since at least the 12.04 release, ubuntu does automatic changes for this. What happens is if there is a W8 there it needs to be resized in windows is all leaving an unallocated space.
[21:31] <shmup> samthewildone: rm -rf ~/.local/share/Trash/*
[21:32] <shmup> Is one way, anyways.
[21:32] <shmup> Sudo that I meant, samthewildone
[21:32] <Beldar> samthewildone, This a server, why are you in root?
[21:32] <samthewildone> shmup,
[21:32] <samthewildone> shmup, thanks
[21:32] <samthewildone> :D
[21:33] <shmup> Staying late at work today to get machine ready for tomorrow is maybe a better idea for weekend. :P
[21:33] <samthewildone> shmup, go HOME
[21:34] <shmup> I should D:
[21:34] <shmup> I need to solve this triviality so I can make real progress!
[21:34] <samthewildone> I'm assuming your a network admin
[21:34] <shmup> Naw, a developer
[21:34] <samthewildone> C/C++ ?
[21:35] <shmup> We're a web shop. Mostly python and php and then the frontend kinda stuff you'd expect
[21:35] <samthewildone> im currently in school for software development.
[21:35] <samthewildone> working with Qt
[21:35] <shmup> Awesome :)
[21:35] <guntbert> !ot | samthewildone shmup
[21:35] <shmup> Yep, back to my Ubuntu problem.
[21:35] <Beldar> get a room lol
[21:35]  * samthewildone runs in a cave
[21:35] <Beldar> ;)
[21:36] <Beldar> shmup, As long as the resize sees you setup you should be fine.
[21:36] <samthewildone> Okay so has anyone pondered on my USB3.0 problem ?
[21:36] <Beldar> your*
[21:37] <Beldar> samthewildone, Have you checked usb2?
[21:38] <Beldar> samthewildone, This is not in root is it?
[21:38] <samthewildone> nope
[21:38] <samthewildone> user
[21:38] <samthewildone> just want to be able to use my usb3 features as on windows.
[21:38] <samthewildone> File transfer which was ungodly fast.
[21:38] <Beldar> cool I would try usb2 just for a check is all samthewildone
[21:40] <Beldar> samthewildone, android has a two choice on read one is mtp the other media I believe I forget how to change this you might ask in #android as well.
[21:41] <Beldar> might be a click on the android drop down top left
[21:42] <samthewildone> I did that already
[21:42] <samthewildone> when my phone is plugged in, it gives me three options. One of them being "use 3.0"
[21:42] <samthewildone> the other 2 works, camera & standard usb
[21:42] <Beldar> samthewildone, strange you have a modern android and 14.04 should just plug and go.
[21:43] <samthewildone> My phone works fine with the standard usb2.0 option
[21:43] <samthewildone> don't get me wrong.
[21:44] <Beldar> 12.04 needed a mtp setup from a ppa, releases beyond just plugged
[21:46] <TJ-> samthewildone: Have you monitored the kern.log to see what is *actually* happening when the device is connected? It may be the port is taken by the USB2 controller via the uhci driver
[21:47] <samthewildone> TJ-, whats up my MAFIA friend...
[21:47] <samthewildone> TJ-, I did but, that stuff is so hard to understand.
[21:47] <samthewildone> I hope you weren't expecting me to get a book on kern.log 101 ...
[21:48] <samthewildone> Some of the stuff was easy to figure out, like the date and time.
[21:48] <Dragin> I am typing su and it asks for my password. I KNOW my password, but it keeps saying Authentication failure. How can I reset the password? I would rather not go into root if I can use su. Anyone have any ideas?
[21:48] <TJ-> samthewildone: Well we can't guess - if there's information there put it in a pastebin so experts here have some change of giving you useful advice
[21:48] <guntbert> Dragin: you are looking for    sudo  , not   su
[21:48] <guntbert> !sudo| Dragin
[21:49] <samthewildone> TJ-, that's another problem, I tried posting in pastebin but no luck.
[21:49] <Dragin> dumb question, but what's the difference?
[21:49] <samthewildone> TJ-, the file keeps updating
[21:49] <Beldar> samthewildone, here is a link, just info. http://www.howtogeek.com/192732/android-usb-connections-explained-mtp-ptp-and-usb-mass-storage/
[21:49] <TJ-> samthewildone: Of course, that's the point of log files :)
[21:49] <Dragin> thanks guys
[21:50] <samthewildone> :|
[21:50] <samthewildone> where can I find the directory of this book for evil again ?
[21:51] <samthewildone> TJ-, the directory of kern.log
[21:51] <samthewildone> oh wait I can do "whereis ..."
[21:52] <samthewildone> nope
[21:53] <gabmus> hello people, i have a problem with a new laptop i just bought: the installation of 14.04 gnome works fine, but right after installation, on first boot i get a kernel panic. my machine is an asus laptop with a bay trail celeron and integrated graphics
[21:53] <samthewildone> gabmus, TJ- will tell you to see your kern.log
[21:54] <jhutchins> gabmus: Will it boot in rescue mode?
[21:54] <TJ-> samthewildone: all logs are in "/var/log/" ... simply do "sudo tail -n 1000 /var/log/kern.log | pastebinit"
[21:54] <gabmus> it boots with an older kernel
[21:54] <jhutchins> TJ-: This assumes it somehow gets around the kernel panic.
[21:55] <gabmus> it boots in 3.13.0-24
[21:55] <gabmus> let me boot and ill pastebin the kernel log
[21:55] <TJ-> jhutchins: what kernel panic?
[21:55] <samthewildone> TJ-, http://paste.ubuntu.com/7983221/
[21:56] <gabmus> not syncing something, let me just get the log
[21:57] <TJ-> samthewildone: "usb 8-2: new high-speed USB device number 12 using xhci_hcd" ... tells us the device reports itself as a USB2 device but it is using the USB3 controller in compatibility mode
[21:57] <samthewildone> :D
[21:57] <jhutchins> gabmus: Yeah, that's just saying it wasn't able to flush the disk cache, which isn't a problem at boot.
[21:58] <TJ-> samthewildone: Now with this info we can dig deeper: "lsusb -v -s 04e8:6860 | pastebinit"
[21:58] <gabmus> http://paste.ubuntu.com/7983237
[21:58] <jhutchins> gabmus: So what does it NOT boot?
[21:58] <TJ-> samthewildone: That will tell us everything the USB device reports as its capabilities
[21:58] <gabmus> what?
[21:58] <jhutchins> Ah, boots with the older kernel.
[21:59] <gabmus> right
[21:59] <TJ-> gabmus: My bet would be the initrd.img file is incomplete for the newer kernel; possibly the /boot/ file-system ran out of space
[21:59] <jhutchins> sorry, gotta run.
[21:59] <TJ-> gabmus: My bet would be the initrd.img file is incomplete for the newer kernel; possibly the /boot/ file-system ran out of space
[22:00] <gabmus> .
[22:01] <gabmus> shouldnt /boot be in the / partition?
[22:01] <gabmus> maybe installing a newer kernel could help?
[22:03] <maujhsn> gambmus i have an older ASUS laptop and I notice over time time ASUS, and Linux have issues The problem perhaps is in the BIOS!
[22:04] <gabmus> what problem could there be in the bios? also my pc is brand new
[22:04] <gabmus> maybe i have to disable some intel shit?
[22:04] <TJ-> gabmus: Sometimes /boot/ can be in a separate file-system. Regardless, check the size of the latest kernel's initr.img ("ls -latr /boot/initrd.img*") and see if it looks significantly different to the other known good intrds
[22:05] <maujhsn> gabmus It is technical, and hard to explain!
[22:05] <gabmus> maujhsn: try to explain it at least
[22:05] <dlam> ehhh something weird happened and now when I `ls -l` it's all question mark thingys like:   ???     anyone know what to check?
[22:06] <TJ-> gabmus: The fact that the older kernel boots successful is a strong indicator that the problem is *not* with the firmware configuration, a Panic with VFS is almost always when the kernel tries to mount the initrd image
[22:06] <Artemis3> dlam, type reset
[22:07] <maujhsn> gabmus ASUS is microsoft software friendly...they are not Linux software friendly if that makes sense to you!
[22:07] <gabmus> kernel panic - not syncing: Fatal exception in interrupt
[22:07] <gabmus> maujhsn: im sorry but it doesnt make much sense to me
[22:07] <maujhsn> ASUS and LINUX just dont like each other!
[22:07] <gabmus> TJ-: what am I supposed to do to fix this issue?
[22:08] <gabmus> maujhsn: i was told the exact opposite
[22:08] <TJ-> gabmus: Boot to the known-good kernel, then run the command I just recommended and compare the initrd.img* file sizes as I suggested
[22:08] <gabmus> TJ-: which command?
[22:08] <TJ-> maujhsn: That isn't helpful. Please stick to specific support issues.
[22:09] <maujhsn> gabmus whoever told you this is wrong!
[22:09] <nevermoreraven> I tried to use "firefox -ProfileManager" in terminal without quotes and it just opens the defualt profile instead in enlightenment de but don't have this problem with gnome
[22:09] <TJ-> gabmus: "ls -latr /boot/initrd.img*" and compare the file sizes to see if the most recent img file looks a lot different to the others
[22:10] <maujhsn> gambus Do you have linux installed on your ASUS!
[22:10] <gabmus> http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/7983318
[22:11] <gabmus> i think the file sizes are similar, arent they?
[22:11] <joelmo> do anyone know if there is a place I can put a xorg.conf under my user directory so that rules are read at login
[22:11] <maujhsn> gambmus Or are you u running it on a USB?
[22:12] <gabmus> its running on the hdd
[22:12] <maujhsn> Ok
[22:12] <TJ-> gabmus: OK, sizes look to be what to expect, so now try re-generating the suspect initrd.img
[22:12] <TJ-> gabmus: which kernel version is it that is failing? -32-generic?
[22:12] <gabmus> TJ-: yes
[22:13] <nevermoreraven> I tried to use "firefox -ProfileManager" in terminal without quotes and it just opens the defualt profile instead in enlightenment but don't have this problem with gnome
[22:13] <TJ-> gabmus: Let's try regenerating it, this at least can rule in/out whether the image is corrupt: "sudo update-initramfs -uv -k 3.13.0-32-generic"
[22:14] <TJ-> gabmus: You'll see a lot of messages (due to the -v verbose flag) ... if something goes wrong generating the image it should be obvious
[22:14] <Dragin> can anyone help me get past this error? http://pastebin.com/PZzc6b7f
[22:14] <hwilde> Dragin,   locate rfftw.h
[22:14] <gabmus> done, stuff looks fine
[22:15] <gabmus> do I try to reboot or what?
[22:15] <Dragin> should'nt that have been in the tarball for rscw?
[22:15] <TJ-> gabmus: OK, try a reboot... if it fails again, try another reboot but that time hold down Shift key as the system starts to get to GRUB boot menu, then choose Advanced sub-menu, and try the Recovery option
[22:15] <hwilde> Dragin, no it should have been installed when you ran "make" and "make install" for FFTW
[22:16] <Dragin> ahhh
[22:16] <Dragin> thanks
[22:16] <gabmus> TJ-: recovery with which kernel?
[22:16] <TJ-> Dragin: That is a dependency - you have to install the -dev packages of the relevant libraries yourself
[22:16] <Dragin> thanks
[22:16] <gabmus> TJ-: same issue, same kernel panic
[22:16] <TJ-> gabmus: The one that breaks ... you're hoping to get a better result because Recovery doesn't do so much as a regular start
[22:17] <TJ-> gabmus: Are you able to photograph the screen when it happens and upload it for us to view?
[22:17] <gabmus> do i have to take a pic to the kernel panic?
[22:17] <maujhsn> Yes
[22:18] <TJ-> gabmus: The next suggestion is an extension of the previous 'Recovery' method. In the boot menu, highlight the "Recovery" option then press 'e' to edit it. You'll get a simply text editor, navigate to the line beginning "linux ...", move to the end of the line and add the text "break=premount", then press Ctrl+X to boot the modified entry
[22:19] <TJ-> gabmus: This "break=premount" will interrupt execution of the initrd.img file-system's "/init"  shell script, *if* the kernel is getting that far. If this leaves you at a shell prompt it proves the initrd.img is GOOD and we can look for other causes, such as a bad root file-system reference
[22:20] <nevermoreraven> I tried to use "firefox -ProfileManager" in terminal without quotes and it just opens the defualt profile instead in enlightenment but don't have this problem with gnome
[22:21] <TJ-> nevermoreraven: could "firefox" be a script that ignores that option?
[22:21] <gabmus> http://imgur.com/F4wcVGV
[22:21] <nevermoreraven> dunno
[22:21] <nevermoreraven> it works fine in gnome
[22:22] <nevermoreraven> but in enlightenment window manager it doesn't work
[22:22] <nevermoreraven> how would I know it is a script?
[22:22] <TJ-> nevermoreraven: show us "which firefox" and "hash -t firefox"
[22:23] <gabmus> it seems not to crash
[22:23] <gabmus> its stuck at "random: nonblocking pool is initialized" tho
[22:23] <nevermoreraven> hash -t firefox doesn't work TJ-
[22:23] <nevermoreraven> says it is not found
[22:24] <TJ-> nevermoreraven: OK, that rules out the bash shell having cached the path to an incorrect firefox script
[22:24] <TJ-> gabmus: OK... that could be good news. You might need to press Enter a couple of times to get a shell prompt. or it may be you need to switch to the VT (virtual terminal) it is on with Alt+F1 or Alt+F7, depending in which is active now
[22:25] <gabmus> i am in (initramfs) console
[22:25] <TJ-> gabmus: That is great :)
[22:25] <gabmus> ok
[22:25] <TJ-> gabmus: OK, I've just read the photo - thanks for that, it's very useful, it has pinpointed the cause.
[22:26] <gabmus> great!
[22:26] <gabmus> because my next hope is archbang xD
[22:26] <TJ-> gabmus: The panic is caused in the RTL driver's interrupt handler, I assume that system has a Realtek network device?
[22:26] <gabmus> yes, exactly
[22:26] <gabmus> do i need a driver for it or what?
[22:27] <TJ-> gabmus: OK... this might not solve the problem permanently, but... if the cable is connected to the port (assuming it isn't WiFi!), try booting with the cable disconnected. That should prevent the card receiving interrupts
[22:27] <maujhsn> gabmus Your wasting your time w/ this!
[22:27] <gabmus> oki doki
[22:28] <styles> I've been running the open source drivers for my Radeon HD 7870 for some time. I wanted to try the closed sourced ones by AMD (because I'm going to start playing Dota and do see some issues with the open source ones). Do you recommend installing them from the AMD site or via the "Additional Drivers"
[22:28] <TJ-> gabmus: Arghhh no, stop
[22:28] <x_root> hello, just a doubt about bash, to open a program is just write the program command and.. that's it right?
[22:28] <TJ-> gabmus: I just did "modinfo rtl8221ae" and it reports it is a PCI WiFi device!
[22:28] <gabmus> TJ-: i get a kernel panic in fact
[22:28] <x_root> like, if everytime the sessio start i want to open "thunderbird" i put the *.desktop of the program in the .sh and.. that's it.. right?
[22:29] <styles> x_root, depends if the program is in your path?
[22:29] <gabmus> TJ-: what hopes do i have?
[22:29] <TJ-> gabmus: Is it possible you can disable wireless radio with a hardware kill switch? I'm trying to find away to get you started with the latest kernel so we can do direct diagnosis
[22:29] <x_root> my path styles? "/home/$USER"?
[22:29] <gabmus> so i cant use wifi?
[22:29] <gabmus> nor ethernet?
[22:29] <styles> x_root, type env
[22:30] <TJ-> gabmus: Well, the fact it boots fine with the older kernel means either there is a regression in the rtl8221ae driver, or something else has changed in the configuration for the more recent initrd
[22:30] <maujhsn> maujhsn :)
[22:30] <gabmus> TJ-: if i use the older kernel, the wifi doesnt work correctly
[22:30] <TJ-> gabmus: You can use Ethernet... but try disabling the Wifi radio, in case it helps
[22:30] <ObrienDave> gabmus, calm down, be patient, let TJ- help you
[22:30] <x_root> styles, did.. and now?
[22:31] <x_root> mandatory path?
[22:31] <gabmus> sorry
[22:31] <TJ-> gabmus: OK ... well that sort-of points to the kernel driver being broken even more... maybe this later kernel was thought to fix the known bugs but just hits other more serious bugs.
[22:31] <Dragin> WOW! To have been such a small file, it took forever to make!
[22:31] <TJ-> gabmus: My first step now would be to suggest we blacklist that kernel module so it isn't loaded... then you can boot into the more recent kernel safely, and we can work from there
[22:31] <Jammerx2> There's a window that I move partially off screen (the title bar only) by alt + dragging. Whenever the window loses focus it shifts it down and to the right, is there any easy way to combat that?
[22:33] <TJ-> gabmus: boot into the older kernel, and at a terminal do: "echo 'blacklist rtl8221ae' | sudo tee /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist-rtl8221ae.conf"
[22:33] <nevermoreraven> TJ- what should I do?
[22:33] <TJ-> gabmus: Then, all being well, you can safely boot into the newer kernel (without the WiFi for now) so we can investigate more
[22:33] <maujhsn> gabmus What model ASUS do you have?
[22:34] <TJ-> nevermoreraven: I'm not sure, if you are executing the regular firefox executable  the only explanation that makes sense would be a typo in the command line
[22:34] <nevermoreraven> i see
[22:35] <TJ-> maujhsn: if you read the kernel panic you'd see it is a X551MA with BIOS revision 402
[22:36] <gabmus> command done, do i reboot now?
[22:36] <daftykins> TJ-: for assistance with gabmus' issue, it's the kernel... bug 1341275
[22:36] <TJ-> daftykins: Thanks, I'd just hit that :)
[22:37] <daftykins> :D
[22:37] <gabmus> o_o now i get some awkward kind of error im not quite able to identify
[22:37] <adymitruk> why does the browser resolve a domain, but nslookup can't?
[22:37] <rypervenche> adymitruk: What command are you running with nslookup?
[22:37] <TJ-> gabmus: OK, a fix is to use the latest stable upstream kernel
[22:38] <Basketball> when i run apt-get update i get W: Failed to fetch http://dl.google.com/linux/deb/dists/testing/non-free/binary-i386/Packages  404  Not Found [IP: 74.125.224.128 80]
[22:38] <adymitruk> https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/QPwvXUz6
[22:38] <gabmus> wooohoo! nice! :D now, how do i do that :3
[22:38] <TJ-> gabmus: See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/MainlineBuilds
[22:38] <adymitruk> rypervenche: ^^^
[22:38] <bram__> anyone who has an idea, i'm trying to install ubuntu server on 2 ssd's with a software raid. In the installer i only see 1 disk, if i open a terminal window and do dmesg | grep sd i see the 2 disks
[22:38] <guest683> can you read that?
[22:38] <TJ-> gabmus: install the recommended packages in that article from http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/v3.16-utopic/
[22:39] <gabmus> thank you, just let me try! btw will my wifi work this way?
[22:39] <rypervenche> adymitruk: That page is not loading for me, possibly blocked by my work. Can you use a different pastebini site please?
[22:39] <TJ-> gabmus: Yes
[22:39] <guest683> hello?
[22:39] <MoProductions> I’m almost embarassed to ask, but I can see a file called profiler.dat in my window, but can’t seem to get a terminal to find it with the find command.  I’m actually looking for a different file but was using that as a test case.  Is tehre a simple “just look thru the whole system and show me where every file named “foo” is”?
[22:39] <daftykins> guest683: didn't see a first message, no. ask a question if you have one
[22:39] <adymitruk> rypervenche: that's because it's supposed to be local network only
[22:40] <adymitruk> nslookup works for google.com and others
[22:40] <daftykins> MoProductions: "man find"
[22:40] <rypervenche> adymitruk: Well I'll need to see what you're typing and your error in order to be able to help.
[22:40] <rypervenche> adymitruk: Ah, it just loaded.
[22:40] <bram__> hmm, never mind looks fixed after deleting the software raidsets, however i did dd if=/dev/random on all the disks and created a blank partition
[22:41] <MoProductions> i’m a bit new to linux and the man page + other websites couldn’t answer my questions
[22:41] <Dragin> How do I give myself permissions to do what needs to be done to these folders please? http://pastebin.com/ncCarRJh
[22:41] <rypervenche> MoProductions: You can type "sudo updatedb" then "locate blah" will give you everything you need.
[22:41] <gabmus> so i have to install the image and headers deb for amd64?
[22:42] <rypervenche> MoProductions: If you need it to grab something case insensitive, use "locate -i blah"
[22:42] <rypervenche> adymitruk: And you're using "api.stackato-t3xs.local" in your browser?
[22:42] <maujhsn> gambus i386!
[22:42] <gabmus> i have amd64
[22:42] <MoProductions> rypervenche: Ahhhh….”locate”….that seemed to work out great even without the -i.  Didn’t know about that command, thank you.
[22:43] <adymitruk> rypervenche: https://
[22:43] <rypervenche> Dragin: You need to have root permissions to be able to add anything to /usr/local.
[22:43] <adymitruk> but yes
[22:43] <gabmus> and what about the all package? do i have to install that too?
[22:43] <TJ-> gabmus: Correct, the -generic_amd64.deb and and _all.deb
[22:43] <gabmus> so 3 debs?
[22:43] <TJ-> gabmus: correct
[22:43] <gabmus> sorry if i may sound ripetitive, but i just have to make sure :3
[22:43] <TJ-> gabmus: You're quite right to query if you are unsure :)
[22:43] <Dragin> so then I need to do the make install as root then?
[22:44] <rypervenche> adymitruk: What does "dig api.stackato-t3xs.local" give you? Also try it without the .local. I believe it is probably using mDNS since it's a .local address, so dig/nslookup probably won't work for that.
[22:44] <rypervenche> Dragin: Yes, unless you decide to play it somewhere else on your system. I'd recommend using "sudo checkinstall" instead though, because it will create a deb package and install it for you.
[22:44] <skypce> hello people
[22:45] <rypervenche> Dragin: It doesn't always work, but when it does, it makes it easy to remove the package from your system :)
[22:45] <Dragin> thanks =)
[22:45] <gabmus> done, im rebooting
[22:45] <skypce> which package has  gtk-update-icon-cache ?
[22:45] <adymitruk> https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/rolqL8rG
[22:45] <daftykins> skypce: is that a file? use apt-file
[22:46] <OerHeks> !find gtk-update-icon-cache
[22:46] <adymitruk> rypervenche: ^^
[22:46] <gabmus> oh my god it actually works, im so happy right now T.T
[22:46] <skypce> great thank you
[22:46] <Dragin> I typed sudo -v, gave my password... still gives the same error
[22:46] <gabmus> thank you very much guys, particularly thank you TJ, you've been very very helpful <3
[22:47] <TJ-> gabmus: it works?
[22:47] <gabmus> yeo
[22:47] <gabmus> yep*
[22:47] <adymitruk> rypervenche: same thing for without the api, without the local and without both
[22:47] <TJ-> gabmus: Great :) I'm just figuring out what the bug is in the driver now
[22:47] <gabmus> the os booted and everything looks fine, lemme just check the wifi
[22:47] <Dragin> command not found on the xudo checkinstall
[22:47] <Dragin> sudo even
[22:47] <gabmus> meh, wifi is still not working ;I
[22:48] <rypervenche> adymitruk: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/.local
[22:48] <rypervenche> adymitruk: "Although .local is an officially reserved Special-Use Domain Name[6] and such host names will never be resolvable by the global Domain Name System, a considerable proportion of the queries submitted to it do specify that pseudo-TLD.[7]"
[22:48] <adymitruk> rypervenche: so how does the browser resolve it then?
[22:49] <rypervenche> adymitruk: If you want something resolveable, try a non .local address and see if that works for you.
[22:49] <qtrain> having trouble with npm  Node is installed correctly but when i try to run npm i get Error: ENOENT, stat '/../../.node'  Any ideas
[22:49] <qtrain>  ?
[22:49] <adymitruk> rypervenche: can't change it
[22:49] <rypervenche> adymitruk: It can resolve, but it uses multicast DNS to do it, not DNS, which is what nslookup uses.
[22:49] <rypervenche> adymitruk: Let me see if I can find something that will work for you.
[22:49] <TJ-> gabmus: in what way "not working" ? "tail -n 1000 /var/log/syslog | pastebinit" will help us here
[22:49] <adymitruk> rypervenche: thanks.. I'll google some more and come back
[22:50] <maujhsn> gabmus Why am I not getting through to you that ASUS is more Microsoft Windows friendly not LINUX!
[22:50] <rypervenche> adymitruk: Also, where do you have the domain's DNS record? Is it on that machine or on another machine?
[22:51] <adymitruk> rypervenche: another machine
[22:51] <gabmus> TJ-: the wifi just doesnt work... but i remember i blacklisted the driver, so im deleting the .conf file that blacklists the wifi driver and im trying again
[22:51] <adymitruk> I think it's the last machine that's a windows service
[22:51] <adymitruk> rypervenche:^^^
[22:51] <rypervenche> adymitruk: Well nslookup was querying that machine itself. (127.0.1.1)
[22:51] <TJ-> gabmus: hahaha yeah, I forgot that! I hope it boots :)
[22:51] <qtrain> also, this is output if I try and run sudo apt-get install npm.  Says I've held broken packages.  Can anyone help me fix?
[22:51] <rypervenche> adymitruk: Check your /etc/resolv.conf
[22:51] <qtrain> http://pastie.org/9454241
[22:51] <gabmus> ok, it boots, but the wifi is still not working :\
[22:52] <adymitruk> https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/B5wlCTCc
[22:52] <adymitruk> rypervenche: interesting
[22:52] <rypervenche> It's going to take a minute for that to load for me :/
[22:53] <adymitruk> rypervenche: weird.. I'm seeing it quick..
[22:53] <maujhsn> gabmus I've had the same issues with my older model ASUS, and not getting wifi to work!
[22:53] <adymitruk> rypervenche: can you curl https://www.irccloud.com/pastebin/B5wlCTCc
[22:53] <rypervenche> adymitruk: It's my work blocking it. I just created a tunnel and can see it now. So your DNS servers are local, so you either need to have the address in /etc/hosts or it won't resolve.
[22:54] <gabmus> any idea to make the wifi work?
[22:54] <rypervenche> adymitruk: So you'll probably want to change what your nameserver(s) should be.
[22:54] <adymitruk> rypervenche: catch-22.. I'm trying to use the DNS entry to get the IP
[22:55] <rypervenche> adymitruk: That's not a catch 22, put your DNS server's IP in your resolv.conf.
[22:55] <TJ-> gabmus: Right, the rtl8821ae driver is the Linux kernel staging tree. That is for poor quality drivers, often from manufacturers, that are candidates to be cleaned up so they can join the mainline drivers. So, you can consider the driver currently experimental (at least for the 3.13 kernel version in Trusty)
[22:55] <maujhsn> Lucky for me I own an old HP laptop w/ AMD technolgy as well!
[22:55] <TJ-> gabmus: in what way "not working" ? "tail -n 1000 /var/log/syslog | pastebinit" will help us here
[22:55] <adymitruk> rypervenche: so how ever the browser is managing to find the IP, I need to do the same
[22:55] <gabmus> http://paste.ubuntu.com/7+9
[22:55] <rypervenche> adymitruk: Your browser is probably using mDNS, like I said, so it is using a multicast request to find the IP. nslookup won't do that.
[22:56] <fun> hey folks who have used ovh here?
[22:56] <rypervenche> adymitruk: It's only able to do that because of the .local ending.
[22:56] <gabmus> http://paste.ubuntu.com/7983609 sorry
[22:56] <rypervenche> fun: I've got OVH.
[22:56] <adymitruk> rypervenche: so what can I use from the command line to find it?
[22:56] <gabmus> the wifi doesnt work meaning that it doesnt detect any wifi network around while im like 30cm far from the router
[22:56] <adymitruk> rypervenche: is there some mdns alternative to nslookup?
[22:56] <d4rks1d3r> Hi, anyone with good experience in Ubuntu? Namely the bootup process?
[22:57] <fun> rypervenche: I got  idea to try and create snapshot of VPS 1 and restore to VPS2, would it work? customer service saying yes and now
[22:57] <rypervenche> adymitruk: Try ping?
[22:57] <d4rks1d3r> I have a very strange issue, and I hope somebody can crack this riddle :)
[22:57] <Beldar> d4rks1d3r, Many, what is the issue?
[22:57] <fun> this way I can spin more ready made ubuntu instances :D
[22:57] <maujhsn> gabmus Try the latest linux mint instead you may have better luck with it installed on your ASUS!
[22:57] <gabmus> d4rks1d3r: write the whole problem in one message please
[22:57] <gabmus> maujhsn: its ubuntu based :I
[22:57] <blbofjd> ??
[22:58] <maujhsn> Yes!
[22:58] <maujhsn> But better
[22:58] <blbofjd> hehe
[22:58] <gabmus> maujhsn: im not quite sure there isnt a way to make wifi work in ubuntu if there is on mint
[22:58] <Beldar> maujhsn, please opinions to yourself.
[22:59] <adymitruk> rypervenche: ping works :)
[22:59] <d4rks1d3r> Here goes: I installed Ubuntu 14.04 server - no GUI - during the boot, the screen goes blank (no video input). However, everything else works fine, i can ssh and do whatever
[22:59] <rypervenche> adymitruk: Also, you could do "dig @224.0.0.251 -p 5353 api.stackato-t3xs.local"
[23:00] <adymitruk> what's so special about 224. ip?
[23:00] <rypervenche> adymitruk: That uses the multicast address.
[23:00] <maujhsn> gabmus Linux Mint works w/ wifi on my old ASUS!
[23:00] <TJ-> gabmus: Thanks. It seems the driver for the RTL8221ae has been asked to scan for networks, and is in a loop switching between 2.4GHz and 5.xGHz frequency bands ("rtl8821ae-0:rtl8821ae_phy_switch_wirelessband():<0-0> 5G")
[23:00] <rypervenche> adymitruk: 224.0.0.251 is the multicast DNS address.
[23:00] <adymitruk> rypervenche: ok.. that worked
[23:00] <d4rks1d3r> I forgot, also when I shut it down, it freezes during the process
[23:01] <l337_> can someone help me please? I'm having problems with ssh access. It stopped working for me (using terminal on mac). ssh: connect to host **.***.**.** port 22: Connection refused
[23:01] <Beldar> d4rks1d3r, If you have ssh reload the mbr with grub
[23:01] <adymitruk> rypervenche: does nslookup have a similar functionality?
[23:01] <fun> l1337 try another machine
[23:01] <fun> also reboot u ubuntu box
[23:01] <gabmus> TJ-: any idea?
[23:02] <rypervenche> adymitruk: I would hope so. I don't use nslookup. I'd recommend using dig, but I'd have to check the man page to figure it out.
[23:02] <skypce> !find appstream-glib
[23:02] <d4rks1d3r> Beldar: if it was a grub problem, it wouldnt boot to the point to be accessable
[23:02] <d4rks1d3r> right?
[23:02] <Beldar> d4rks1d3r, Okay you're the expert. ;)
[23:02] <fun> rypervenche: any ideas about restoring snapshop to vps 2?
[23:02] <adymitruk> rypervenche: if dig is better, I'm not going to worry about it.. I'll read up on it and use it
[23:02] <fun> on ovh :)
[23:02] <adymitruk> rypervenche: thank you very much! You've saved me a day
[23:03] <l337> fun: done, same thing
[23:03] <rypervenche> fun: I don't use a VPS with them. I'm not sure what hypervisor they use on their end. You'd probably have to ask them, and even then they may not know. :P
[23:03] <TJ-> gabmus: I'd like some proof that driver ever works first - someone else that can use it. With it being in staging, and looking at the recent commits affecting it, I think I'd consider it mostly 'broken' :)
[23:03] <rypervenche> adymitruk: Anytime :)
[23:03] <fun> rypervenche: yes they dont know :) they use VMware something hypervisors
[23:03] <l337> what the hell, I didn't change anything
[23:04] <fun> l337: then access via console
[23:04] <fun> and issue service ssh restart something like that
[23:04] <gabmus> TJ-: so no way my wifi will work anytime soon right?
[23:04] <d4rks1d3r> Beldar: I'm asking...Trying to understand, however it's worth the shot - what should I use to update MBR?
[23:04] <fun> restart ssh service
[23:05] <rypervenche> fun: SSH is apparently no longer accepting requests on that port from your machine. I'd do a telnet from another machine to see if it's listening for other IPs. If not, then you'll need to get console access to the machine.
[23:05] <Beldar> d4rks1d3r, grub-install /dev/sdX X is the HD and needs root or sudo.
[23:05] <rypervenche> l337: ^ rather
[23:05] <fun> hehe
[23:05] <Beldar> d4rks1d3r, Than update-grub same root or sudo
[23:06] <idefine> hi, where can I specify options for upstart? Specifically I'd like to set a value for --logdir
[23:06] <TJ-> gabmus: It is asked to scan by wpa_supplicant: "00:51:17 GabMus-Asus-X551MA wpa_supplicant[775]: wlan0: CTRL-EVENT-SCAN-STARTED " ... but just keeps flipping between frequency bands.
[23:07] <gabmus> cant i force one frequency manually?
[23:08] <TJ-> gabmus: There are some new parameters that can be passed to the module to modify its behaviour; I'm checking on what they might do to help, now
[23:08] <l337> rypervenche: I have console access to it
[23:08] <gabmus> thank you kindly :3
[23:08] <l337> rypervenche: what do I do?
[23:08] <TJ-> gabmus: oooo... firmware! can you "grep firmware /var/log/dmesg | pastebinit" ?
[23:09] <gabmus> sure just a sec
[23:09] <d4rks1d3r> Beldar: same issue
[23:09] <gabmus> hyyp://paste.ubuntu.com/7983705
[23:09] <nevermoreraven> on them x pills
[23:10] <nevermoreraven> yo
[23:10] <nevermoreraven> fosho
[23:10] <nevermoreraven> keep it real
[23:10] <l337> rypervenche: I did a restart "sudo service ssh restart"
[23:10] <nevermoreraven> you know what I am saying?
[23:10] <l337> “stop: Unknown instance: ssh start/running, process 1637”
[23:10] <l337> this is what I got back
[23:10] <skypce> guys
[23:11] <skypce> help me
[23:11] <skypce> i am trying to compile gnome-software 3.14.3
[23:11] <d4rks1d3r> any other suggestions?
[23:11] <skypce> i am trying to compile gnome-software 3.13.4 say sorry
[23:11] <skypce> i have this error
[23:11] <skypce>  trying to overwrite '/usr/local/share/glib-2.0/schemas/gschemas.compiled', whic
[23:11] <skypce> h is also in package gtk+ 3.13.1-1
[23:11] <skypce> dpkg-deb: error: subprocess paste was killed by signal (Broken pipe)
[23:11] <blbofjd> yes, it works
[23:12] <l337> fuck, not even ssh 127.0.0.1 is working
[23:12] <l337> "ssh: connect to host 127.0.0.1 port 22: Connection refused"
[23:12] <TJ-> gabmus: does this show a file: "ls -l /lib/firmware/rtlwifi/rtl8821aefw.bin"  ?
[23:13] <fun> rypervenche: I called OVH support they said atm its not on
[23:13] <fun> in future they might enable it
[23:14] <mikeg3> Hi something is messed up with the way I log in…I think I am auto logging in…I am no longer prompted for a password in Ubuntu 14.10
[23:14] <fun> folks what would be the easiest way to copy entire Ubuntu install from 1 VPS to another?
[23:14] <gabmus> TJ-: yes, the file is there
[23:15] <TJ-> gabmus: OK, we need to get confirmation the driver did load it: "pastebinit /var/log/dmesg" please
[23:16] <gabmus> http://paste.ubuntu.com/7983746
[23:16] <ObrienDave> !language | l337
[23:16] <suncokret> hello
[23:17] <suncokret> how can i change screen resoluton in log on screen?
[23:18] <TJ-> gabmus: For Your Information :) "[   13.738475] rtl8821ae: module is from the staging directory, the quality is unknown, you have been warned."
[23:18] <gabmus> meh, i know it, i installed a staging kernel, right?
[23:19] <svenx> gabmus: i have the same card, in my asus.. something. htpc-thingie. i have to blacklist it on the kernel command line to make the kernel not panic
[23:20] <svenx> gabmus: you make it boot without blacklisting? (tons of scrollback to read)
[23:20] <svenx> i'm hitting https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1327741
[23:20] <TJ-> gabmus: ahah! "rtl8821ae_module_init+0x2b/0x1000 [rtl8821ae]" ... there's a crash caused by this module, in cfg80211 around time "[   14.019892]"
[23:21] <gabmus> TJ-: what am i supposed to do then?
[23:21] <TJ-> gabmus: Not a staging kernel, no. You've installed the latest mainline kernel... but this particular driver is in the kernel's 'staging' source-code tree because it is not up to quality - Relatek dumped it there and expect kernel devs to tidy up their mess
[23:21] <TJ-> gabmus: Complain to RealTek about the poor state of their drivers, and otherwise, wait
[23:21] <gabmus> aw, what a mess
[23:22] <gabmus> do i have to wait then?
[23:24] <lawltoad> whats the diff between /sys/fs/cgroup/cpuset/tasks and /sys/fs/cgroup/cpuset/cgroup.proc
[23:24] <TJ-> gabmus: Lots of similar bug reports around, you're not the only one affected. There's a post on the linux-wireless mailing list reporting it, but no follow-up there
[23:25] <Red_Mist> Any good "how to linux" pages out there?
[23:25] <svenx> gabmus: maybe check recent commits to see if they mention the issue. https://git.kernel.org/cgit/linux/kernel/git/torvalds/linux.git/log/drivers/staging/rtl8821ae
[23:25] <livthekid> try the ask ubuntu
[23:25] <TJ-> svenx: I've already done that
[23:26] <svenx> TJ-: ok
[23:26] <nevermoreraven> TJ- I have an ubuntu based distro on 12.04 how can I make a script know that it is ubuntu 12.04?
[23:26] <TJ-> svenx: gabmus has the lastest kernel
[23:26] <nevermoreraven> I can't get it to work says it can't detect my version
[23:26] <gabmus> yep... what if i get an usb wifi dongle? could it work?
[23:26] <skypce> hey guys, do you can tell me if gnome-software package is working ¿? skypce-sandbox.com
[23:28] <TJ-> gabmus: You should make a bug report to the kernel developers, against the linux-wireless sub-section, for this. there are currently none filed: https://bugzilla.kernel.org/buglist.cgi?query_format=specific&order=relevance%20desc&bug_status=__all__&product=Networking&content=rtl8821ae&list_id=362971
[23:28] <TJ-> gabmus: Yes, if the device has a good driver
[23:29] <gabmus> ok... thats not the best solution but *sigh* i see no other chance
[23:29] <gabmus> or... i can return the laptop and get something else... do you have good experience with hp notebooks?
[23:30] <delinquentme> so I want to make a loop which takes an input of 7 .... and evaluates that variable to 01, 02,03,04,05,06,07
[23:31] <nevermoreraven> how do I spoof what my OS and version is?
[23:32] <Red_Mist> Okay, I answered my own question.. also.. this is awesome.. it should be in irc header! http://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2014/03/2400-introduction-to-linux-course-will-be-free-and-online-this-summer/
[23:34] <OerHeks> Red_Mist, check out http://fullcirclemagazine.org/
[23:34] <TJ-> gabmus: I wouldn't be surprised if this is fixed inside 2 or 3 months
[23:35] <Red_Mist> OerHeks: thanks, will check it out.
[23:35] <theevil24a> theevil24a
[23:35] <theevil24a> oe quien habla español
[23:35] <l337> can anyone please try and ssh 66.172.33.46?
[23:35] <gabmus> TJ-: really? so its better if i wait?
[23:35] <gabmus> what would *you* do?
[23:36] <TJ-> delinquentme: "for a in {1..7}; do printf "%02d\n" $a; done"
[23:36] <mikeg3> How can I troubleshoot Ubuntu 14.10 not requiring a password when I log in?
[23:37] <Daekdroom> !ubuntu+1 | mikeg3
[23:37] <TJ-> gabmus: I'd get a (cheap) wifi dongle for now and be patient :)
[23:37] <OerHeks> mikeg3, go into system sttings > accounts> there you can manage autologin
[23:37] <TJ-> gabmus: You have an otherwise excellent PC ... these are the things we in the Linux community have to put up with, because of the Microsoft monopoly on PCs
[23:37] <Basketball> when i run apt-get update i get W: Failed to fetch http://dl.google.com/linux/deb/dists/testing/non-free/binary-i386/Packages  404  Not Found [IP: 74.125.224.128 80]
[23:38] <gabmus> TJ-: i am used to self built desktop pcs, there arent any issues with my desktop pc so far, so im not used to this kind of problems :\
[23:38] <mikeg3> OerHeks: Been to settings accounts, Autologin is already off.
[23:38] <gabmus> i think ill just wait then... thank you very much for all the effort you put in helping me
[23:40] <TJ-> gabmus: There are some hardware manufacturers that do no provide any linux driver supprt, although they are getting rarer now. Most commodity hardware gets drivers (even if they have to be reverse-engineered by the community) eventually
[23:40] <gabmus> one last thing: how can i check if this issue is solved over time? do i have any reference page i can watch?
[23:42] <TJ-> gabmus: You remember the Mainline Kernel Builds wiki page I pointed you to? Bookmark it, and check back every month or so to look at the recent mainline builds in the PPA ... as work on kernel version 3.17 gets underway there will be a series of Release Candidate builds available... rc1, rc2, ... etc, until the final 3.17 is released. When you see a new one, install it and test. If it works great, if there are problems, revert to the previous stable release (3.16
[23:42] <TJ-> in this example)
[23:42] <TJ-> gabmus: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/MainlineBuilds
[23:43] <mikeg3> sorry for typo using 14.04
[23:43] <gabmus> perfect, thank you :)
[23:46] <mikeg3> How can I troubleshoot Ubuntu 14.04 not requiring a password when I log in?  Even though I want to type one.  Autologin is off.
[23:48] <Daekdroom> mikeg3, does your user account have a password set for it?
[23:49] <mikeg3> Yes it does, although I had to do a lost password reset procedure
[23:49] <TeraJL> which KDE distro based on ubuntu you guys USE?
[23:49] <Daekdroom> TeraJL, there is Kubuntu.
[23:49] <mikeg3> then the problem started
[23:50] <TeraJL> i see so many rage about kubuntu that's why i've asked..
[23:50] <Daekdroom> TeraJL, I'm afraid your question is offtopic for this channel.
[23:50] <Daekdroom> mikeg3, Can you go to system settings > user accounts and check whether the account has a password?
[23:51] <Guest97136> hello
[23:51] <Guest97136> I am having trouble with "apt-get update", can anyone help?
[23:51] <mikeg3> If I am there, how can you tell if the password is already set.  I see dots, I assume password is set.
[23:52] <TeraJL> Daekdroom: i understand that, can you tell me a channel that may be best, and possibly ubuntu related?
[23:52] <Daekdroom> Yes, I believe that indicates the password is set.
[23:52] <gabmus> g2g guys, its been a pleasure
[23:52] <gabmus> again thank you everybody, see you soon!
[23:53] <Daekdroom> TeraJL, there is a Ubuntu offtopic chatter channel in #ubuntu-offtopic. You may or may not get answer for your question there.
[23:53] <mikeg3> I do not have to type an initial password though, just a mouseclick to log in.
[23:53] <Daekdroom> mikeg3, try setting the password again, then.
[23:53] <Daekdroom> It'll ask for your current password, if the old password doesn't work, then it's probably a blank password since the lost password procedure.
[23:54] <mikeg3> ok brb to set password
[23:56] <Guest97136> I am unable to update my repositories
[23:56] <Guest97136> I get error:  I am having trouble with "apt-get update", can
[23:56] <Bashing-om> Guest97136: :" I am having trouble" is broad .. are there specifics we can work with ?
[23:56] <Guest97136> E: Some index files failed to download. They have been ignored, or old ones used instead.
[23:56] <Guest97136>  have tried updating software resources
[23:57] <wehde> does anyone else use 14.04 and pulseaudio with network playback?
[23:58] <Guest97136> there when I try to select best server I get an error
[23:58] <Guest97136> asking me to check my connection
[23:58] <Guest97136> I can very well surfvia browser
[23:59] <Bashing-om> Guest97136: Let's look at the source.list file .. -> cat -n /etc/apt/sources.list | pastebinit , tail -v -n +1 /etc/apt/sources.list.d/* | pastebinit<-, See if we can see the error of the package manager's ways.