=== torstehu_ is now known as torstehu === yofel_ is now known as yofel [07:06] hm, have any of you guys used thunar's file templates ever? [07:07] i personally haven't, but i feel it sucks a bit that we have a menu that's always empty there... [07:07] File > Create Document > No templates installed (is what i'm referring to) [07:10] ochosi: nope - not me [07:11] morning pixie/elfy [07:12] morning ochosi [09:36] morning ochosi/elfy [09:45] hey bluesabre_ [09:45] g'day === bluesabre_ is now known as bluesabre [09:45] hey knome [09:45] whats up guys? [09:46] manually upgrading a wordpress 3.5 site to 3.9.2. fun! [09:47] woo! [09:48] well, it's easier now [09:48] ...that i've just manually upgraded a wordpress 3.6 site to 3.9.2 [09:48] one more to go after this ;) [10:21] bluesabre: tested light-locker's dbus interface today for the first time [10:22] it's a bit more than half-ready i guess [10:23] yeah, saw that [10:23] slow and steady, eh [10:23] :) [10:30] hi bluesabre [10:33] hey elfy [10:33] how are things? [10:33] hey elfy [10:34] hi knome [10:34] bluesabre: ok thanks :) week off and the sun is mostly out [10:34] woot :) [10:34] hope the sun isn't too hot ;) [10:40] nope - this IS england :p [10:43] hah, well this is finland and it's too hot in here... [10:47] bluesabre: lordy, ppl still keep commenting on the black screen bugreport... [10:48] ochosi: yes, I have no love for light-locker these days [10:51] bluesabre: not sure what to do about that though [10:52] at this point, I think it's probably more of an issue with Xorg [10:52] well, it's multiple problems, but i guess the main issue is VT switching + suspend [10:52] or, even more compressed: VT switching [10:52] yeah [10:52] trouble is we don't know what these people posting have done in the meantime - only what they say they've done [10:53] yup [10:53] yeah, and in fact ppl are misattributing all kinds of issues to this bug [10:53] I'd bet my last penny - that they are different bugs [10:53] it has become a sort of catch-all [10:53] yup [10:54] several times we've had reports from ubuntu users [10:54] where their compositor froze and left them with a black screen [10:54] so how about [10:54] which had nothing to do with light-locker, which they didn't have installed [10:54] yeah, or those folks that just have general suspend bugs because of the graphics stack or xorg or whatever... [10:55] unsubscribe us from it - make a note that the original bug is fixed and if people have other issues they should create new bug reports as we're no longer monitoring this one [10:55] yeah, that sounds sensible [10:56] and specifically if *we* get notification once xubuntu-bugs is unsubscribed deal with that locally [10:56] shall I do that now ochosi ? [10:56] yup, that'd be great [10:56] thanks elfy [10:58] still, in the long run we have to deal with this somehow [10:58] if vt switching is causing so much headache [10:59] light-locker 2.0 :) [10:59] yeah, but we need at least some sort of idea when that's going to happen [11:00] thing is, that's something *i* definitely can't implement [11:00] i guess cavalier wants to clean up the dbus branch first and release that as ll 1.6 [11:00] ochosi: This bug has become a catch-all for issues that appear to be similar. The original issue is now fixed, the Xubuntu Team is no longer monitoring this bug. [11:00] too blunt? [11:00] :> [11:00] or just elfy enough [11:00] going back to xscreensaver is not an option =S [11:01] it's quite blunt, but as i've mentioned this a few times in the report already, go for it [11:01] brainwash: why not? [11:01] ok - xubuntu-bugs is unsubscribed and I've posted that :) [11:01] thanks [11:01] we might get them via xfpm though - not sure [11:02] because we just switched to light-locker which is the better (looking) solution [11:02] well i'm not the last person to admit an honest mistake, if we start to feel that way [11:03] what will suck though with xscreensaver is the fun settings duplication with xfpm :) [11:03] i think we should just work wiht light-locker and keep improving it [11:03] in a way, i'd personally prefer if we tried to improve the situation though [11:03] yay - they fixed the images \o/ [11:03] even if it took until 16.04 [11:04] right, 14.10 is just a play ground anyway, so no need to switch back [11:05] well, "just a playground" might be a bit exaggerated, but yeah, i tend to see it that way [11:06] as the recent vote on xchat has shown, the team doesn't agree on this though [11:10] the ones not in favor seem like they'd be in favor of having hexchat though for the sake of quick irc [11:10] * bluesabre advocates nothing [11:12] knome: is this bug still present? bug 1307929 [11:12] bug 1307929 in light-locker (Ubuntu) "light-locker crashes on every unlock" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1307929 [11:12] to me, it looks like some people interpreted the question as "should we drop xchat forever" instead of "should we do an experiment with no xchat on one release" [11:12] brainwash, i'll check that later today, or sth [11:13] yup [11:13] knome: thanks [11:14] time for work, bbl [11:14] hf bluesabre, ttyl [11:15] elfy: if now a shitstorm arises, i hope we won't be subscribed anymore ;) [11:15] I disagreed on removing something and leaving nothing in it's place - pidgin is not a replacement [11:15] ochosi: LOL [11:16] that argument is like taking a car from someone and giving them a motorbike as a replacement almost ;) [11:16] do you really wanna start this discussion now? (cause i'm about to head out for lunch...) [11:17] nah not at all - that's all done now :) [11:21] alright :) [11:21] in that case i can quietly head out ;) [11:22] yep - have some lunch for me :) [11:23] * ochosi is on a diet [11:23] but i'll make an exception for you, elfy [11:24] bbl [11:24] bon appetit [11:29] ochosi: when you're back - I like the tab swicher :) === ssarah_ is now known as ssaraH [15:23] Good luck with the CC check-in. [16:10] oh. [16:11] Crap [16:11] What time was that supposed to be? [16:11] in 50 mins. [16:12] skellat, did you catch this link from IRC or the ML: http://xubuntu.org/team-calendar/ ? :) [16:12] No, actually I didn't [16:13] well, there you go :) [16:13] it incorporates the team calendar and the trello calendat [16:13] *calendar [16:24] is there anything that we need from the CC? [16:24] that anyone else knows ... [16:24] don't think that we "need" anything [16:25] I didn't think so [16:26] Mental help for the entire team... [16:26] can't ask for that ... [16:26] doubt the CC can help with that.. [16:26] 2 of the team would have to self-administer ... [17:08] ochosi, pi-ping! [17:09] even anyone other than us two from team would be good ;) [17:11] * Unit193 pokes in for two seconds then out. -> [17:34] thanks knome :) [17:34] np, and ty elfy [17:34] :) [17:40] bbl