[00:00] is what i try, as you can see in the log of this chat [00:01] if you have a better idea, jump in, don't wait until he's gone to offer advice [00:01] no Dave, i really tell him what to do, befoure you say that is not good idea [00:02] whatever [00:45] hello [00:45] hi [00:45] Thunar takes a long time to start the first time because it is waiting for something [00:46] can I autostart whatever it is [00:46] when open Thunar from terminal, what say ? [00:46] to elliminate lagtime [00:46] terminal just says thunar - I tried that. [00:46] but before, you kill all thunar process right ? [00:47] I watched to the taskmanager to see what is started [00:47] yes, I rebooted to kill all procs [00:47] you can killall Thunar, then try [00:47] have samba or nfs files mount ? what dir for default open with Thunar ? [00:47] it is something to do with gvfs [00:48] thunar opens to /home/angie [00:48] uninstalling gvfs-backends solves the problem but the software center depends on it and this computer is being built for a friend so I have to keep the software center [00:49] rename .config/Thunar folder, for another, like Thunarback, offcourse, before kill thunar [00:49] I looked in /usr/bin and there is no gvfs-backends [00:50] according to taskmanager thunar starts gvfs-network gvfs-smb and gvfsd-dnns [00:50] I tried autostarting those to kill the lag time but it didn't work [00:51] open Thunar as root take too long ??? [00:52] same thing. [00:52] first instance takes forever. after that it opens quickly [00:53] starting thunar from command line with sudo [00:53] and a comand like "thunar /" take too long too ? is no a problem with the dafault dir ? [00:56] is not the correct, but if dont want to erase gvfs or anithing, can put thunar run when start the session as daemon, "thunar --daemon" but is not the correct thing [00:56] i cant find where thunar save the logs [01:01] thunar / still take too long on first instance [01:01] found an entry for AT-spi something in the autolaunch menu, I think might be the solution. Waiting for reboot so I can find out [01:02] trying to remove gvfs-backends from apt-get remove is also try to delete the store ? [01:04] renso that is correct. [01:04] uninstall gvfs-backends also uninstalls ubuntu software center. [01:04] on my machine I use synaptic buy my friend likes the software center so I have to keep it [01:05] and solve the thunar lag time problem [01:06] only the store ? you can remove gvfs and then install only the store [01:06] atspi didn't help. trying the thunar --daemon suggestion. [01:06] the store and some download manager both depend on gvfs-backends [01:06] you see this post ? http://crunchbang.org/forums/viewtopic.php?id=19392 [01:07] delete gvfs-backends solve the problem for what i see [01:08] in resume " My solution was to edit /usr/share/gvfs/mounts/network.mount.distrib and set Automount from =true to =false." [01:09] will try that. thank you [01:12] hello im trying to change my os from xubuntu 12.04 to ubuntu 14.04.1 via clean install. i alredy do the md5 sum and hash match and everything. its for windows install. 64bit. it is really annoying. i don’t know what to do any more. can i get some help maby? [01:13] thanks for your help renso [02:44] Failed to create secure directory: Read-only file system [02:44] everything says that eveb firefox\ [02:44] even [03:15] how can i skip update version of ubuntu without fresh install? [03:41] i just want to install the iso of ubuntu 14.04.1 i have for 2 days now!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! please help me!!!!!!! [03:42] zacwalls: sure.. whats the issue? [03:42] !install | zacwalls [03:42] zacwalls: Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall - Don't want to use a CD? See http://tinyurl.com/3exghs - See also !automate [03:42] everything [03:43] zacwalls: i literally download the iso i want to use, and make bootable media, either usb or dvd and boot the media and follow the steps.. what is the issue? specificially? [03:43] zacwalls: if its "everything", then, you dont have the iso downloaded.. please download the iso and let us know when you are ready [03:43] like i get corruped files and stuff like that. and then rww banned me yesterday [03:44] zacwalls: i know nothing about the banning, but that will *not* effect your install.. please download and use.. [03:44] !md5 [03:44] To verify your Ubuntu ISO image (or other files for which an MD5 checksum is provided), see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/HowToMD5SUM or http://www.linuxquestions.org/linux/answers/LQ_ISO/Checking_the_md5sum_in_Windows [03:45] im going to clear some stuff and download another iso [03:45] zacwalls: "clearing stuff" will also not effect your install... unless you literally dont have room for the iso [03:46] i hate wubi sooooooooooooooooo much [03:46] zacwalls: ? [03:46] zacwalls: please use the #xubuntu-offtopic channel to "hate" things.. otherwise, dont use what you dont like [03:46] !wubu [03:47] !wubi [03:47] Wubi allows you to install or uninstall Ubuntu 12.04 LTS from within Windows ( version 7 or earlier ) in a simple and safe way. Wubi is INCOMPATIBLE with UEFI, Windows 8 Certified computers, and Windows RAID arrays. https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WubiGuide for more information. File wubi bugs at http://launchpad.net/wubi/+filebug [03:47] AFAIK, its been discontinued.. [03:47] i have ubuntu though or xubuntu same thing [03:47] zacwalls: xubuntu *is* ubuntu.. [03:47] !xubuntu [03:47] Xubuntu is Ubuntu with Xfce as the desktop environment. More info at http://www.xubuntu.org/ - To install from Ubuntu: « sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop » - Join #xubuntu for support - See also: !Ubuntu and !Xubuntu-Channels [03:48] where can i get an iso for xubuntu [03:48] zacwalls: ? the link right above ^ has it.. and the one i gave earlieras well [03:48] aha [03:49] i got http://xubuntu.org/getxubuntu/ from quickly dropping "download xubuntu" in a search engine [03:52] i want ubuntu [03:52] and i cant find an iso for linux [03:53] i feel like going on a homicidal rampage. [03:53] zacwalls: ? [03:53] zacwalls: i think you are misinformed, friend.. [03:53] every iso has wubi [03:53] zacwalls: you are in the xubuntu channel.. so if you want ubuntu, get it, but this channel is about xubuntu.. [03:54] zacwalls: wubi will not affect your install.. just dont use it [03:54] how [03:54] zacwalls: literally dont click on wubi from inside windows, and you wont be using it [03:54] i have xubuntu!!! [03:55] !wubi | zacwalls this explains it quite well [03:55] zacwalls this explains it quite well: Wubi allows you to install or uninstall Ubuntu 12.04 LTS from within Windows ( version 7 or earlier ) in a simple and safe way. Wubi is INCOMPATIBLE with UEFI, Windows 8 Certified computers, and Windows RAID arrays. https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WubiGuide for more information. File wubi bugs at http://launchpad.net/wubi/+filebug [03:55] i dont have windows [03:55] zacwalls: you wont fine an "iso for linux".. since linux is the kernel.. xubuntu uses th elinux kernel.. ubuntu.. etc [03:55] zacwalls: then, you are not going to be able to use wubi.exe.. so you can igrnore it [03:56] ignore* [03:56] want an iso without it? [03:56] !mini [03:56] The Minimal CD image is very small in size, and it downloads most packages from the Internet during installation, allowing you to select only those you want. The installer is text based (rather than graphical as used on the Desktop DVD). See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/MinimalCD [03:56] every time i try to boot i get a boot error [03:56] zacwalls: everytime you try to boot what you get what error? [03:57] a boot error [03:57] zacwalls: we cannot read minds.. and i realize you are obvisously mis-informed and upset, but, i do not konw what boot error you have unless you communicate it with me.. nor do i know what you are doing to get the un-shared error.. understand? [03:57] like "that is not a disk" or "boot error " [03:58] zacwalls: boot again, and share *exactly* what you are getting and how.. otherwise, start at the beginning.. download whatever iso you want, test the md5 and install [04:04] zacwalls: im going to bed.. handy tips: dont assume your hard drive is "ok", test it.. take whatever error you are getting and put it in a search engine. see *exactly* waht drive the error is about. boot the bootable live installer media on another machine to test that its working [04:05] good luck! [04:05] yeah right [04:05] oh.. and ignore wubi [04:06] zacwalls: "yeah right"? [04:07] like i could ever have good luck [04:07] zacwalls: i dont understand what thats about.. i am a volunteer, as are many others here.. *all* of us actually.. please try and work with your comments and attitude to become "help-able" as much as possible.. thanks.. [04:10] anyone here from earlier? I just wanted to let you guys know that a clean reinstall seemed to fix the problem [04:11] And now to my next question. What is the best way to install amd drivers. I have seen muliple ways and I also saw something called bumblebee, but the guys that was talking about it was using a nvidia card. [04:11] shane____: i would have probably tried the recovery kernel.. there is a way to reset passwords and make users, admin users.. etc [04:12] !amd [04:12] shane____: i suggest trying the open drivers.. then, move on to the repo ones.. [04:12] !ati [04:12] For Ati/NVidia/Matrox video cards, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VideoDriverHowto [04:13] holstein i tried the recovery kernel and it did not work..I reset my password, and then I couldnt log in at all [04:13] shane____: im just saying, for future reference.. you can make an admin user, or whatever you need.. [04:15] yup ill remember that..thanks for the help...and just curious what is bumblebee [04:15] !info bumblebee [04:16] bumblebee (source: bumblebee): NVIDIA Optimus support for Linux. In component universe, is extra. Version 3.2.1-5 (trusty), package size 43 kB, installed size 231 kB (Only available for linux-any) [04:16] shane____: for nvidia dual gpu's.. [04:18] ahh..also it seems like there are no open source drivers for my gpu, however it looked like here are no open source drivers for any new amd gpu's am I looking in the wrong area [04:18] shane____: its more like, the creators of your hardware havent made a driver that is open source [04:19] shane____: the open source driver *is* being used, by default.. [04:19] ok...soo im confused then..should I continue to use what ever is running now or go to the binary ones [04:21] shane____: there is no "should", friend.. if you were not promised linux support, then you do what you like [04:22] shane____: if the open driver is meeting your needs, i say, use it.. if its not.. try the proprietary one in the repos [04:23] ok well I guess thats all for now..thanks for the help:D Odds are i will be back soon:P === torstehu_ is now known as torstehu === Azelphur_ is now known as Azelphur [06:08] yo [07:26] Just installed xubuntu 14.04 --- whenever I try to sudo apt-get install any package I get E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (2) [07:27] Anyone got any ideas as to why this is happening? [07:27] wlz reboot and try again [07:27] did that... [07:28] Weird... [07:29] I was hoping to not run into these kinds of snags' [07:29] wlz wait 1 [07:30] ? [07:32] wlz, did you reboot or shutdown? [07:33] I've even threw my pc out the window [07:34] that does not answer the question [07:34] w1z, and it wastes time ... [07:35] I've done both if you really want to know. [07:35] if i did not really want to know, i would not have asked. glwt [07:37] ok [07:38] See ya then losers [07:39] uh [07:39] knome, see? [07:39] *sigh* [07:39] i'm off to do some real work... [08:47] Are there another repository for tor ? [08:51] !tor [08:52] Tor is a program to route connections through several servers for anonymity. It is in Ubuntu's repositories, but the Tor Project recommends using their Tor packages due to past issues with Ubuntu's. For setup info, see option (2) of https://www.torproject.org/docs/debian.html.en | To use Tor on freenode, see !tor-sasl === bluesabre_ is now known as bluesabre === Pici` is now known as Pici [10:58] hey, people! anybody wants to help me? [10:58] kurono_, when you state the problem ... maybe. [10:58] !ask [10:58] i have a problem with shutting down my laptop. [10:59] if i want to shutdown, it hangs up in the shell. [10:59] Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience [10:59] !kurono paste the terminal commands and feedback [10:59] cfhowlett: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :) [10:59] !paste [10:59] For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use http://imgur.com/ !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic. [11:00] sudo shutdown -h now [11:01] nope. install pagebinit then use that to paste from your command line [11:01] *pastebinit* [11:02] my internetconection is too weak to do this. sorry. [11:06] it is already installed. and now? [11:06] kurono_, run your shutdown command with -v (verbose flag) copy and paste the output to paste.ubuntu.com [11:07] ah, thanks. just a minute. [11:11] whats the next step? [11:15] cfhowlett, what is the next step? [11:15] kurono_, ask in #ubuntu [11:16] huh? why? am i too annoying, or what is it??? my os IS xubuntu. [11:17] kurono_, more eyes and brains in #ubuntu = more chance of an answer [11:17] ah, okay... but thanks for your try! [11:18] kurono_: xubuntu is ubuntu with xfce basically - so here is better for xubuntu specific, ubuntu is better for the more general stuff :) [11:19] yes, but i thought it was a xubuntu specific problem, because of i had mint before, without problems. [11:19] kurono_, so ... you won't even try? [11:21] kurono_, most issues are common to all flavors of Ubuntu. please ask in #ubuntu. many of us help in multiple channels [11:21] i am already in #ubuntu and asking. ;-) [11:22] ok, great, see you there :) [11:22] thank you all. :-b [12:13] has the "span wallpaper" option disappeared somewhere? [12:14] or have I just forgotten where the setting hides? [12:21] ... never mind, found it [12:21] it's just a bit confused about what it thinks my "primary" screen is [12:22] and only shows the "spanning screens" option on the leftmost monitor [15:13] hi [15:13] hi [15:13] i lost my xubuntu root password,so is there any way to recover it? [15:37] hi all, [15:38] I need to configure remotely the remote desktop on Xubuntu 14.04 [15:39] just installed vino [15:40] but got [15:40] :~$ /usr/lib/vino/vino-server Cannot open display: Run 'vino-server --help' to see a full list of available command line options [15:42] running vino server from SSH [15:49] xubuntu039: try removing variables.. go local on the machine and configure vino .. [15:52] :( that's the problem I can't access machine now .... [15:52] xubuntu039: well, if you cant access the machine, you wont be able to set up remote access.. [15:53] xubuntu039: i have setup x11vnc which i can run remotely via ssh.. basically turning it "on" when needed [15:54] ok vnc could be fine, any idea on limitation ? [15:54] xubuntu039: your limitations will be specific [15:55] xubuntu039: for me, i wanted remote desktop, so i went with what worked for me and the client i wanted to use [15:55] xubuntu039: limitations are security, access.. etc.. all with different pros and cons [15:56] ok, let me try [15:56] thanks [17:09] i was reading a xubuntu review recently and saw that the person had put some cool looking resource monitors on his desktop...I cant seem to find the review any more, but do you guys have any recommendations [17:11] !info conky [17:11] conky (source: conky): highly configurable system monitor (transitional package). In component universe, is optional. Version 1.9.0-4 (trusty), package size 3 kB, installed size 42 kB [17:11] shane____: Did you check Add New Items in the panel? [17:13] ya I saw the basic cpu monitor that you can put up on the task bar, the one I saw was on the actual desktop and it showd cpu usage, gpu usage, memory usage so on so on [17:13] Probably conky then [17:13] ubuntuforums: conky beginners guide has tons of examples [17:16] by the 100's ... [17:17] choose one from column A and two from column B === tavasti` is now known as tavasti [19:07] Hi, is it possible to encrypt ~/ (cryptsetup Luks) during install Xubuntu? (live cd xubuntu 14.04) [19:09] !encryption [19:09] For information on setting up encrypted private directories (8.10+) see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EncryptedPrivateDirectory [19:09] yolateng0: i think you need the mini iso [19:09] !mini [19:09] The Minimal CD image is very small in size, and it downloads most packages from the Internet during installation, allowing you to select only those you want. The installer is text based (rather than graphical as used on the Desktop DVD). See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/MinimalCD [19:09] !luks [19:31] thanks ubottu and holstein . [19:31] actually the idea of a mini distro is a good idea. [19:31] its more like the old alternate isos.. or a net install [19:32] LUKS encrypts the entire disk so that it is applicable to other platforms and Linux distributions. i prefer Luks ;) [19:34] LUKS is obviously more efficient that ecryptfs :) [19:34] < holstein> ;) [19:35] yolateng0: im literally not interested in either. but, i encourage you to use a mini iso to do which ever you like [19:35] Hello peoples [19:36] hi === limelight is now known as wuzzabazoo [19:37] I have a question. It's not really xubuntu related I suppose, but I don't honestly know where to ask it, so I thought I'd ask it here and maybe be pointed in the right direction :) [19:38] I have a router with functioning wifi hooked up to my modem/router, to which my PC hangs tethered. How do I access the wireless devices connected to the secundary router? [19:39] wuzzabazoo: by networking them, based on your needs.. [19:39] !samba [19:39] Samba is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and https://help.ubuntu.com/12.04/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html [19:39] or whatever else.. ssh.. [19:39] well, I'd love to have SSH access to my phone, for instance [19:39] * Hedgework shudders at the mention of samba [19:39] wuzzabazoo: you would have to have an ssh server on your phone.. do you? [19:39] I do :) [19:40] There's a free one available for android right now, it seems like it would do the job, but I have no way to tell [19:40] wuzzabazoo: then, get he machine on the same LAN and test pinging them.. them, connect [19:40] wuzzabazoo: so, you have an ssh server? or no? [19:40] That's the thing though, that's not possible; I have the pc hooked up to the modem/router which has no functioning wifi. [19:40] wuzzabazoo:regardless, i would get a simpler setup.. just try pinging the machines from each other.. then, when you get around to ssh or whatever, it'll be easier to test [19:40] My phone is hooked up to the secundary one via wifi instead. At the time it seemed a decent worksaround. [19:41] wuzzabazoo: if its not possible, then, you dont need to worry about it.. otherwise, you just configure your machines to be on the same LAN [19:41] Ah, I figured since they're technically all interconnected, there would be methods to achieve it anyway :< [19:41] the "sencondary wifi one" doenst need to be setup as you have it setup.. you get everything where they have the same IP range [19:42] Oho? Oh that's cool, that'd probably solve it, right? [19:42] wuzzabazoo: i didnt say "probably".. i say, get them on the same ip range. the same lan, and ping them from one another.. then, they are connected [19:43] I see~ Alright, thanks, I'll try and figure out how to do that. :) [19:43] wuzzabazoo: you are using the router as a seperate network.. you have it configured that way.. you will want to pass that through as just a wifi access point.. right now, you have (as i see) 2 seperate networks [19:43] Yeah, that's exactly right [19:43] you can set it up so that the wifi router is only supplying wifi, and not being another dhcp server for a seperate network [19:44] I have IP range 192.168.178.XXX which is the modem, and then 192.168.1.XXX for the Wifi capable one [19:44] Ahh~ I get it! [19:44] basically acting more like a switch for the 192.168.178.x network [19:44] Thanks so much, I bet I can fix it now! :D [19:44] so, when you join with a wifi device, i'll get a 192.168.178.x address.. and you can ping the gateway.. and the other machines connected wired or whatever [19:45] That's pretty much the solution I'd been hoping for! :D [19:46] wuzzabazoo: all routers can have different configuration for that.. or, not allow that configuration, or whatever.. a networking channel or your router manufacturer should be able to help you [19:47] Oh, there's a bunch of options here. DHCP (which I don't want, if I understand correctly), PPPoE, Static, PPTP, L2TP or Disabled. [19:48] wuzzabazoo: you should ask in a networking channel, or the device manufacturer.. thats not the correct area for the configuration you seek [19:49] Ah, alright. Well, thanks a bunch for helping me on my way, at least! I wasn't sure how to phrase what I was looking for, so googling was rather hard. [19:50] You get phrases like "accessing device connected to router via wifi connected to another router" <- Google got nothing for me. >.> [20:48] i installed realvnc on 14.04 server with xfce desktop. [20:49] when i connected for the first time, it asked to choose either default program or one empty panel [20:49] instead of selecting one empty panel i selected default program [20:50] how do i revert to one empty panle [20:50] s/panel === Luyin_ is now known as Luyin [22:40] Anyone had trouble with xfce4-terminal not playing nice with multiple x screens? [22:50] yes, there have been several bugs like that [22:52] you wouldnt know how to fix it would you? not being able to have terms open on more than one screen is a pain. [23:04] hello [23:04] is here somebody for help? [23:04] suncokret, greetings and welcome [23:05] greetings too [23:06] how can i change resoluton in log on screen? [23:06] :) [23:06] screen resolution [23:06] i understand :) [23:07] what is different about the logon screen? [23:08] because is ubuntu 14.04 there is bug when user are inactive for some time monitor turn off [23:08] and screen is locked [23:08] in ubuntu [23:09] and then it switch to that screen [23:09] and i want to have same resolution on that screen as in system [23:09] :) [23:10] somebody told me that screen lock is bug because we can't disable that [23:10] i mean screen lock after time set in power menagment [23:11] i don't have that issue with the screen locking [23:11] i have in lubuntu [23:11] and somebody here told me that it is bug in ubuntu [23:12] may i suggest you ask in main #ubuntu channel. i'm not sure how to help with this [23:13] so in xubuntu when you are inactive and monitor switch off screen don't lock? [23:13] mine does not lock, no [23:14] i have heard others with the same issue as you [23:14] yes [23:14] i use lubuntu, and i was install xfce [23:14] but it is same issue under xfce [23:15] it's the light locker issue (probably not the right name) [23:19] do you use xubuntu? [23:25] yes [23:27] most *ubuntu are the same, just a different DE (Desktop Environment) [23:27] yes, and some programs [23:28] true [23:28] are you logged into XFCE? [23:29] no i am now in lxde [23:29] they are very similar to me [23:29] but lxde is lighter [23:30] yes, but i'm not sure if they use the same power manager [23:30] can you log into XFCE? then we can check your power manager settings [23:31] i think that xfce used same power manager [23:31] ok, let's check your settings please [23:31] wait [23:32] maybe i can download in synaptic some other power manager [23:32] or just log into XFCE :) [23:33] now i see [23:33] lxde use xfce power manager [23:33] ok, start it [23:33] i start it [23:34] ok, general, from the top.... [23:35] always show icon.... [23:35] nothing... [23:35] nothing... [23:35] nothing... [23:35] ObrienDave, please don't spam the channel. [23:35] check monitor power management control [23:36] knome, was not spamming, 3 settings the same in a row, sorry [23:36] i don't have same [23:36] i have [23:36] when batery is present [23:36] ask [23:36] nothing, nothing [23:37] monitor power checked [23:37] :) [23:37] check show notifications [23:37] suncokret, please do not use enter as punctuation... [23:37] you can use !pastebin or !imagebin for transfering information [23:38] so can you continue [23:38] suncokret, i'm trying to give you my settings [23:39] good [23:39] continue, please [23:39] :) [23:39] let me do some imagebins so people dont get angry ;P [23:39] !imagebin [23:39] Screenshots can be made with the [PrtScr] button. Want to show us a screenshot of your problem? Upload an image to http://imgur.com/ [23:42] http://i.imgur.com/vbCrnpV.png [23:44] http://i.imgur.com/GiorYhx.png [23:44] hi there [23:45] http://i.imgur.com/ChZ3Yol.png [23:46] http://i.imgur.com/jUePjnj.png [23:47] http://i.imgur.com/xHsVezz.png [23:47] xubuntu023, hello [23:48] http://i.imgur.com/gOagss7.png [23:48] suncokret, those are my settings [23:49] thanks... now i see why your screen don't lock... [23:49] http://i.imgur.com/ChZ3Yol.png [23:50] because you set "put display to sleep..." and "switch off display" to never [23:50] the screen shuts off occasionally, but does not lock [23:51] i din't know how shut off when you set to "never" :) [23:52] even with my settings, i'm not sure why screen goes blank.