[01:22] <deitarion> Does anyone know of a way to get rid of the categories in the Places sidebar in GTK+ 3.x file dialogs and can anyone point me to the icon names I need to symlink to restore color to my Places icons?
[01:24] <deitarion> I've been trying to ditch all the GTK+ 3.x applications added between 12.04 and 14.04 but I haven't been able to get Ark working and I'm still evaluating QMMP as a replacement for Audacious Media Player which restores external MIDI support.
[02:00] <deitarion> My need for that answer just became a little less urgent. Turns out I just needed to manually run `kbuildsycoca4` to unbreak Ark because Lubuntu 14.04 broke KDE's ability to do it on demand.
[02:46] <mikubuntu> what an awful day --- att said they would just have to bring a new box for my upgraded speed paclkage of 45mbps, which they graciously offered bcause comcast offered me 105mbps. the guy was here from 11am til 8pm!!! drilling holes in the house and running new cable, etc. arrrrrgh. well, hes gone now, and i only tested the lubuntu laptop in the living room, which connected without any prob. i din't thinnk it was necessary to test
[02:48] <mikubuntu> so i'm hookd to ether now trying to figure how to get connected wireless. this task tray doesnt even have the little applet that shows available networks, and the network connections app from the menu doesn't detect networks either. (it was working on the previous modem fine)
[02:49] <mikubuntu> btw -- 45mbps 'ain't all that'
[02:53] <holstein> i say, since you have spent 9 hours on it, maybe just give it a break and come back fresh.. could be anything
[02:55] <mikubuntu> i'm brave, i'll have a go if someone could help me diagnose
[02:55] <mikubuntu> (have terminal, will type0
[02:55] <holstein> mikubuntu: you said the machine worked before the new att modem showed up.. sounds like you might want to call att
[02:56] <holstein> mikubuntu: what do i do? i try all machines i have.. i try and wire in and see how the wifi is set up.. i typicaly reset the modem and build from scratch after "the guy" leaves anyway
[02:56] <mikubuntu> they don't 'support' linux (of course)
[02:56] <holstein> mikubuntu: ?
[02:57] <holstein> mikubuntu: so.. get something they do support
[02:57] <holstein> mikubuntu: dont stack up all your odds negatively.. i assure you, lubuntu is not prevening that connection from happening
[02:57] <holstein> mikubuntu: are you seeing the wifi access point?
[02:57] <holstein> do you have any other machines to test with?
[02:58] <mikubuntu> as i said -- i tested mom's lubuntu laptop, and its working fine
[02:59] <holstein> mikubuntu: i see no mention of mom's laptop above..
[02:59] <holstein> mikubuntu: what are you trying to connect? and how is what failing?
[02:59] <mikubuntu> it has the little applet in the tray and i just clicked on it, it showed me all the available wireless signals, i put in the password and voila
[02:59] <holstein> mikubuntu: ok.. so whats the question?
[02:59] <holstein> mikubuntu: that lubuntu laptop *is* connecting? whats the problem then?
[03:00] <mikubuntu> this other box is not connecting
[03:00] <holstein> ok.. what other box?
[03:00] <mikubuntu> see 22:46
[03:00] <holstein> mikubuntu: no thanks, you can just tell me more clearly right now
[03:00] <holstein> mikubuntu: what other box? what wifi chip? what errors?
[03:01] <holstein> mikubuntu: are you able to see the device? do you have the nm-applet running?
[03:01] <mikubuntu> well, hes gone now, and i only tested the lubuntu laptop in the living room, which connected without any prob. i din't thinnk it was necessary to test the other lub box in  the other room.
[03:01] <mikubuntu> nm-aplet doesn't appear on this box
[03:01] <holstein> mikubuntu: so, its not connecting then? do you have the nm-applet in the tray?
[03:01] <holstein> mikubuntu: ok.. run it, manually, and see that it appears
[03:02] <mikubuntu> ok, how
[03:02] <mikubuntu> does it need to be installed somehow?
[03:02] <holstein> mikubuntu: i open the terminal and type "nm-applet" and run it, and share error output
[03:02] <holstein> mikubuntu: the applet comes with lubuntu
[03:03] <mikubuntu> k, i thought so, but its not appearing
[03:03] <holstein> mikubuntu: you can also run a live CD on the hardware and test that everything is working as expected.. so you can see if the issue is with your installation
[03:03] <holstein> mikubuntu: ok.. what errors?
[03:08] <holstein> mikubuntu: good luck to you..
[03:08] <holstein> !wifi | mikubuntu this can be helpful
[03:09] <holstein> as well as #ubuntu, since you have a more general wifi connection issue that is not lubuntu or lxde specific necessarily.. im out..
[03:10] <mikubuntu> seems to be connected now, but did return these errors :: http://paste.ubuntu.com/7985111/
[03:42] <sgo11> Is that possible to uninstall/remove whoopsie and apport? thanks.
[03:49] <sgo11> this is crazy, I can not even uninstall/remove firefox !?
[03:49] <sgo11> it will automatically remove my lubuntu-desktop. how come?
[03:50] <sgo11> it seems I can not remove anything. I tried transmission. it's the same. it will also remove lubuntu-desktop. how come?
[03:51] <sgo11> what a crazy world !
[03:59] <mikubuntu> holstein: seems to be connected now, but did return these errors :: http://paste.ubuntu.com/7985111/
[04:12] <sgo11> hi, when a window is focused, in the lxpanel window list, it's focused with gray gradient color. (hopefully my english makes sense). Is that possible to remove the gradient effect? thanks.
[04:24] <ianorlin> sgo11 then how will you tell which window is active and has mouse?
[04:24] <sgo11> ianorlin, I am trying to remove the gradient effect. not the color. the focus window can still has dark background.
[04:25] <sgo11> ianorlin, everything is flat now. I don't like gradient.
[04:55] <Someus> Hi. I installed Lubuntu. But my keyboard layout is set to US whereas i selected LV during installation.
[04:56] <Someus> Why is that?
[04:57] <ianorlin> I think that is a bug
[04:57] <Someus> ianorlin hi. I had to adjust it manually.
[04:59] <Someus> Also during Lubuntu boot i got message on screen ..../cryptswapt1 drive is not ready
[04:59] <Someus> not sure what it was
[05:01] <Someus> Does it have to do with "Encrypt Home folder" option during install?
[05:04] <sgo11> To customize lubuntu, how to change the text "Logout Lubuntu 14.04 Session?" when clicking the shutdown button in the panel? thanks.
[05:20] <fares> hi all
[05:22] <fares> i use lubuntu 14  when i update to  14.04   the update end with some error   after restart and run the system again   when i  choose user  and enter password  after login   the system return me  to  the  login  window again
[05:23] <fares> i can use guest   user  only
[05:25] <fares> ?
[05:26] <ianorlin>                 /reconnect
[05:29] <sgo11> any ideas with any of my questions? thanks.
[05:52] <sgo11> can anyone please help me on changing the logout text? thanks.
[05:54]  * ianorlin thinks it is embeded in an image
[05:54] <sgo11> ianorlin, it's not an image. if I change the locale, the words will be changed and "Lubuntu 14.04" remains.
[05:58] <absk007> how to change theme?
[05:58] <absk007> i've downloaded an openbox theme
[05:59] <sgo11> absk007, obconf
[06:01] <absk007> sgo11, should i extract the archive .tar.gz & select the .obt file which is along side a directory with lots of pngs?
[06:01] <sgo11> absk007, sorry, I never change a theme yet. maybe some other people can help you on this. I just know you can select diff themes in obconf.
[06:02] <absk007> why isn't the border changing of some apps?
[06:04] <hateball> they might be using different decorations, what apps are they
[06:05] <absk007> hateball, hexchat
[06:06] <absk007> it use Pixbuf gtk engine
[06:06] <absk007> how to change the gtk theme?
[06:07] <hateball> a google suggests gtk-chtheme but I do not know
[06:07]  * hateball uses KDE, just lurks here for more general questions really ;|
[06:13] <absk007> how to uninstall wifi drivers?
[07:09] <sgo11> can anyone help, please? basically, I want to remove the text at the top of lxsession-logout.
[07:14] <Someus> Hi I need a sound recorder application
[07:16] <Someus> is there sound recorder in Lubuntu in default apps?
[07:17] <hateball> Someus: I'd install and use Audacity
[07:18] <Someus> I don't need complex one
[08:28] <absk007> sound off on lock. why ?
[12:08] <average_guy> Bug #1354405
[12:08] <average_guy> I am trying to improve my bug reports, what else could I attach to this to make it more helpful?
[12:10] <phillw> average_guy: depends if you want your rain to melt...
[12:11] <phillw> make that *brain* :P
[12:13] <average_guy> I have used vmxray to go in and pull logs before if thats what you mean phillw, I don't really know what specifically to go get tho
[12:13] <phillw> average_guy: there is channel #ubuntu-bugs and there is also a short session from bug master general at http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2013/06/24/%23ubuntu-classroom.html#t21:30
[12:13] <average_guy> awesome thx
[12:15] <phillw> average_guy: my introduction can be found at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Testing/Activities/Classroom/Saucy/
[12:16] <phillw> that's all back when we had classroom sessions, so plenty on there to read up on :)
[12:19] <phillw> average_guy: and to totally fry your brain.... http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~sgtatham/bugs.html
[12:21] <average_guy> this all looks like good info, thx phillw.  I yam readin away :D
[12:23] <phillw> average_guy: there is a bug master on here, he is away from keyboard most of the time. But you can always ping him ... his nick starts as tewar ..... you can guess the rest :)
[12:23] <phillw> He's a good guy.
[12:27] <phillw> average_guy: for a ubiquity bug on release +1 grab balloons in #ubuntu-quality
[12:29] <phillw> or you can go to #ubuntu+1 (balloons is pretty good at taking bugs on)
[15:47] <sgo11> Why lxqt does not use the icons from the icon theme that I picked?
[16:09] <absk007> i installed lubuntu minimal but couldn't connect to internet. I ran pppoeconf but it did find my LAN but couldn't recognize the net connection in it.
[16:10] <absk007> how to install httrack Website Copier?
[17:52] <absk007> is there anyone in here who could help me setup lubuntu minimal after installing?
[17:52] <galo> hi I want to change the login background. Is there a simple way to substiute  he default background with any .jpg of my choosing ?
[17:53] <galo> Maybe even the same .jpg I use as edesktop wallpaper for example
[17:53] <galo> *desktop
[17:54] <rafaellaguna> galo, let me check it
[17:54] <galo> thanks fafarellaguna
[17:54] <galo> rafaellaguna...
[17:55] <rafaellaguna> I need to remember where the files are in the package...
[17:55] <rafaellaguna> ready, galo?
[17:56] <galo> I was hoping to just scrounge around and find the file and change it...
[17:56] <rafaellaguna> absk007, I'm with you right now
[17:56] <galo> yes...ready
[17:56] <rafaellaguna> you need a 1600x1200 image or it will be deformed
[17:56] <rafaellaguna> must be a PNG file, not JPEG
[17:56] <galo> k
[17:57] <rafaellaguna> then you edit /etc/lightdm/lightdm-gtk-greeter.conf
[17:58] <rafaellaguna> look for "background=whatever.png" and put there your image in the way "background=/home/galo/images/whatever.png"
[17:59] <rafaellaguna> we're working in some way to use current wallpaper, but it's not working for now, sorry
[17:59] <absk007> rafaellaguna, after installing minimal, i ran pppoeconf. It did find my LAN & WLAN but doesn't configure them.
[17:59] <absk007> rafaellaguna, brb
[18:00] <absk007> eating
[18:00] <rafaellaguna> :)
[18:00] <rafaellaguna> minimal without desktop? or minimal with lubuntu-core?
[18:00] <galo> so will I have success if I follow the above rafaellaguna ?
[18:00] <rafaellaguna> indeed, galo :)
[18:01] <galo> well ty then !
[18:02] <galo> ohh and what is the best way please to convert my .jpg to .png ?...thanks
[18:03] <galo> mtpaint ?
[18:04] <rafaellaguna> easier, open the jpg with LX Image Viewer (the default Lubuntu viewer) and use the menu File / Save As
[18:04] <rafaellaguna> in the name put whatever.png and voilà
[18:05] <galo> excellent, even easier
[18:05] <rafaellaguna> if you have the menu-less version look for a "save as" icon at the bottom and choose the file format
[18:06] <galo> thats a great function
[18:08] <rafaellaguna> an easy way to convert ico, png, tif, png, bmp and jpg formats
[18:13] <absk007> rafaellaguna, minimal with WM
[18:15] <rafaellaguna> do you have a desktop?
[18:16] <absk007> rafaellaguna, yeah! but nothing installed apart from LXTERM & XTERM
[18:16] <absk007> rafaellaguna, why pppoeconf doesn't config my LAN?
[18:17] <rafaellaguna> it should do
[18:18] <absk007> but it doesn't
[18:18] <rafaellaguna> why don't you use nm-applet
[18:19] <absk007> but it's not available.
[18:19] <rafaellaguna> oh right, because you don't have a connection inside the VM
[18:19] <absk007> rafaellaguna, not VM.
[18:20] <absk007> i installed it in my HDD
[18:20] <rafaellaguna> ok
[18:20] <absk007> rafaellaguna, soln?
[18:20] <rafaellaguna> the question is I never configured it, I always used nm-applet
[18:20] <rafaellaguna> let me derive this question to another guy ;)
[18:21]  * ianorlin has mostly used nm-applet as well
[18:21] <absk007> rafaellaguna, is nm-applet available in lubuntu-core?
[18:21] <rafaellaguna> I think so, let me check what package includes it
[18:23] <absk007> rafaellaguna, no it doesn't. http://packages.ubuntu.com/trusty/lubuntu-core
[18:23] <ianorlin> yeah it isn't in lubuntu core
[18:23] <rafaellaguna> network-manager-applet, outside yes
[18:26] <absk007> how to install. No net in lubuntu-core
[18:26] <rafaellaguna> that's beyond my skills :(
[18:27] <absk007> i installed lubuntu-core using lubuntu alt. image
[18:30] <absk007> rafaellaguna, ianorlin, who will help me?
[18:30] <absk007> why is no one helping me?
[18:30] <rafaellaguna> don't desperate :)
[18:31] <ianorlin> absk007 normally my internet is just plugging into ethernet may setup automatically but I don't know how you configured your mini install
[18:32] <absk007> ianorlin, i didn't configure the internet while installing lubuntu-core
[18:33] <rafaellaguna> yup, mine too, when I did a minimal setup a dialog configured LAN
[18:34] <absk007> rafaellaguna, but i cancelled 'em
[18:34] <rafaellaguna> a ha! :)
[18:35] <absk007> so what..one may not have internet while installing but might have internet after installation
[18:36] <rafaellaguna> no, you have internet WHILE installing, because a minimal setup may need some extras not present in the ISO, so it connects automatically or let you configure a PPP connection
[18:37] <absk007> rafaellaguna, then how it installed? I installed using alternative installer image
[18:37] <absk007> i didn't connect it to internet at any moment. Remove the n/w cables
[18:38] <rafaellaguna> the Alternate ISO? it has a full desktop, you should have a LAN setup tool
[18:40] <absk007> rafaellaguna, so how do i do that?
[18:41] <rafaellaguna> have you check askubuntu in the meanwhile? I'm looking for a solution, anyway
[18:41] <rafaellaguna> what does ppoeconf say?
[18:44] <absk007> rafaellaguna, pppoeconf says nothing. It just hops my LAN, WLAN, MUlti-mode.... but doesn't do the work
[18:44] <absk007> how to see power stats in lubuntu?
[18:46] <rafaellaguna> here's the wiki for adslpppoe: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ADSLPPPoE
[18:55] <ianorlin> powerstats do you mean for battery absk007?
[18:55] <absk007> ianorlin, yep!
[18:55] <absk007> rafaellaguna, what more is there other than manual installation.
[18:56] <ianorlin> lubuntu by defualt uses xfce battery monitor?
[19:05] <absk007> ianorlin, does it show the stats?
[19:37] <ianorlin> it shows percent of battery
[19:54] <absk007> ianorlin, but i need a stat.
[20:02] <ianorlin> it also shows full charge and how much charging
[20:11] <absk007> ianorlin, but i need a stat
[20:11] <absk007> like in the ubuntu
[20:11] <ianorlin> a stat?
[20:12] <absk007> Power Statistics
[20:12] <holstein> absk007: use the one from ubuntu.. since lubuntu *is* ubuntu
[20:12] <ianorlin> might bring in a ton of dependencies
[20:12] <absk007> damn!
[20:12] <holstein> depends on what it is... otherwise, something like conky might do the trick
[20:13] <holstein> !conky
[20:13] <ianorlin> abskoo7 powertop has some power management features but not sure what stats you are thinking
[20:13] <holstein> !info conky
[20:44] <deitarion> Since I updated to Lubuntu 14.04, the update manager seems to have started nagging me to restart daily. Is there a way to disable that feature or do I just have to rip out the entire GUI update manager and cook up my own update notifier using a apt-get, a terminal, and a shell script?
[20:45] <deitarion> s/a apt-get/apt-get/
[20:52] <deitarion> Also, I'm too burned out to report yet another bug, but LXPanel is ignoring the OnlyShowIn key on several package manager components and displaying duplicate menu entries.
[20:53] <deitarion> For example, software-properties-gnome.desktop and software-properties-gtk.desktop
[21:00] <deitarion> According to the results I found, there should be "auto-launch" and "hide-reboot-notification" keys under com.ubuntu.update-notifier in the dconf hierarchy, but I just examined my entire dconf hierarchy and they seem to have been removed along the way from 12.04 to 14.04.
[21:01] <deitarion> (This sort of nonsense is why I despise GNOME and anything they or their adherents get their grubby hands on. It's MY computer, dammit, and I'll rip out and replace as much of it as I need to in order to make it recognize that it answers to me!)
[21:03] <phillw> deitarion: just say yes...
[22:46] <deitarion> For anyone who stumbles across the channel logs and wants my solution, http://blog.ssokolow.com/archives/2014/08/08/hacking-together-a-quick-update-notifier/
[23:51] <hyponic> Hi.. i am having problems with macmini that installed lubuntu on. I can't get the sound to work. when i try to start audio mixer it says GStreamer was unable to detect sound device. ps i am new to linux so please be patient with me.
[23:57] <phillw> hyponic: you will need to hang around for wxl . ppc testers are few in number
[23:59] <hyponic> i googled a bit and i found an old post saying to download  linux-backports-modules-alsa-generic but i can't find that package