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nik90gventuri_: we got a bug about the alarm sound at https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-clock-app/+bug/135437010:09
ubot5Ubuntu bug 1354370 in Ubuntu UX "default sound for alarm doesn't get its job done" [Undecided,New]10:09
nik90gventuri_: need your design opinion10:10
gventuri_Let me have a look10:36
gventuri_nik90: most of the sounds are soft-ish, I just tested all of them10:42
nik90gventuri_: ah10:42
gventuri_nik90: for the moment, I would use 'Ubuntu' as a defualt10:42
nik90gventuri_: is there a plan to bring a separate alarm ringtones folder?10:43
nik90gventuri_: post-rtm?10:43
gventuri_maybe we could file a bug under sound10:43
nik90gventuri_: ok10:43
gventuri_nik90: I think you would need stronger sounds anyway10:43
nik90yeah10:43
gventuri_even for ringtones10:43
gventuri_not just for alarms10:43
gventuri_could you file a bug?10:44
nik90ah10:44
gventuri_is there a 'sounds' project?10:44
nik90"ubuntu" is the default ringtone for calls as well. Wouldn't it cause confusion?10:44
nik90there is a ubuntu-touch-sounds project afaik10:44
gventuri_ok10:44
nik90https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubuntu-touch-sounds10:46
jouni_hello10:47
gventuri_jouni_: hi10:47
jouni_buongiorno10:47
gventuri_we are talking about the sounds of alarm10:47
jouni_alright10:47
gventuri_at the moment they are all quite soft10:48
jouni_ringtone or alarm?10:48
gventuri_it would be lovely to have 1-3 sounds that are more strong10:48
gventuri_I believe it is the same set10:48
gventuri_Am I mistaken?10:48
jouni_yeah I can do a couple more no worries10:48
jouni_yeah same set10:48
gventuri_that'sokay (for now)10:49
jouni_users can also add their own sounds10:49
gventuri_ok10:49
gventuri_how?10:50
jouni_just need to save a sound file in the folder on the device10:50
jouni_hold on lemme see what the path is10:50
nik90jouni_: that path is in the system folder, dont think users have permission to do add there10:50
gventuri_can you do that without a PC?10:51
jouni_there is no gui on the phone, command line only10:51
jouni_nik90: you remember what the path is?10:51
nik901 sec10:51
nik90jouni_: /usr/share/sounds/ubuntu/ringtones10:52
jouni_ah yes there they are10:52
nik90jouni_: when the phone is connected, the user only sees the home folder (documents, music, pictures and downloads)10:52
nik90everything else is hidden and restricted10:52
jouni_so if someone wants to add a ringtone10:52
jouni_they need to make the image writable first10:53
nik90yup10:53
jouni_and then push with adb to the right path10:53
nik90but that isn't user friendly10:53
jouni_we could perhaps make system settings able to accept sounds via the content hub10:53
jouni_so that you could export stuff from say, music app easily10:53
nik90I suppose yes10:55
jouni_need to ask the system settings devs.. I’ll find out who they are10:55
gventuri_also the media player10:55
nik90jouni_: seb128 and laney afaik10:55
jouni_yeah was looking for seb but can’t see him online10:55
jouni_nik90: can you ask them if you see them?10:55
nik90jouni_: sure10:55
jouni_gventuri_: yeah if an app accepts a certain filetype via content hub, any other app that outputs that file type can export to it10:56
jouni_nik90: thank you!10:56
gventuri_jouni_: on a different node, could we add something like the 'old ringtone' on iOS10:56
jouni_like an old school phone? yeah sure10:56
gventuri_cool10:57
nik90jouni_: yeah I agree with gventuri_, we would still need to add 2-3 ringtones which are strong (like the old school one)10:57
jouni_was gonna spend a day creating some new sounds after the sprints, I’ll do it next week10:57
jouni_no problemo10:57
nik90gventuri_: can you assign jouni_ to that bug in ubuntu-ux10:57
gventuri_I can't see the bug10:58
nik90gventuri_: once they land, I will mark that bug resolved10:58
gventuri_nik90: did you save it?10:58
nik90gventuri_, jouni_: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-clock-app/+bug/135437010:58
ubot5Ubuntu bug 1354370 in Ubuntu UX "default sound for alarm doesn't get its job done" [Undecided,Triaged]10:58
gventuri_nik90: ok10:58
jouni_i assigned myself10:58
gventuri_ok10:59
nik90thnx guys11:00
jouni_no worries11:00
jouni_what you working on these days nik, the clock?11:00
nik90yeah the new clock app designs11:01
nik90gventuri_: oh btw, I have implemented the fastscroll and custom swipe delete similar to the address book. It landed in trunk. Once we get a few more stuff in, I will push an update to store11:01
nik90jouni_: you can try out the new clock app via the ubuntu touch store. Search for "Clock Reboot"11:02
jouni_nice, will give it a go11:02
gventuri_Do you want me to start filing bugs? I noticed a few of them11:04
gventuri_nik90: on launchpad I mean11:04
nik90gventuri_: yeah go ahead. I will look into them parallely11:04
gventuri_nik90: ok, cool11:04
mptJohnLea, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SecurityAndPrivacySettings#Locking11:09
JohnLeampt; thanks!11:09
JohnLeampt; one other question while I'm at it - is there a rotation lock setting somewhere in the designs as well?11:10
JohnLeampt; e.g. setting that locks the phone/tablet into it's current orientation?11:11
mptJohnLea, yes, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/StatusBar#rotation-lock11:12
mptwhich links to https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SystemSettings#phone-quick-access11:12
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mptJohnLea, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Storage#Phone11:27
mptJohnLea, ogra was the engineer who asked for that11:27
JohnLeampt, is there anywhere the user can see their IP address in System Settings atm?11:42
mptNo11:43
* snwh is surprised there is activity in this channel11:43
JohnLeampt, according to the design, will the phone automatically connect to previously connected wifi networks automatically with zero user intervention (e.g. no notifications, the device just connects automatically?)11:45
mptJohnLea, if “Auto-join previous networks” is on, which it should be by default. <https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Networking#wi-fi-phone> That option is not implemented yet.11:47
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nik90gventuri: ping12:37
gventurinik90 pong13:01
gventurinik90: pong13:01
nik90gventuri: hey I wanted to ask if you thought about the add custom world city by search online feature we discussed sometime back13:02
nik90gventuri: we are getting closer to rtm and ideally I would like to have the feature implementations done asap and focus on just bug fixes13:02
gventurinik90: yeah, I think I added a note to the spec13:02
nik90oh13:03
gventurinik90: https://docs.google.com/a/canonical.com/presentation/d/1JvDyhsW17d1-Mz8OY1YMBKwfRI2z9qgyRjbujEsxEMk/edit#slide=id.g338feb3e7_0813:03
nik90gventuri: nice. I will then start working on that13:04
gventurinik90: it shows a progress indicator while searching online13:04
gventurinik90: it might take a while if not on wifi13:04
nik90gventuri: ok. What happens if the user is not connected online? Due to no wifi or 3g for instance13:04
nik90although it is a really rare care13:05
nik90case*13:05
gventurinik90: it can happen indeed13:06
gventurinik90: maybe we could create an empty state with a call to action to add a new city13:06
gventurinik90: or we could just display an empty state with a notification that you are not online13:07
gventurithe second option is probably my favourite13:07
nik90gventuri: I think for RTM we should go with third since allowing the user to add his own city is a bit more complicated since I am not sure how that goes well with the day light saving rules and so on.13:08
nik90I will work on this in the weekend and see where that leads to13:08
gventuriabsolutely13:09
gventurithat's what I was thinking as well13:09
nik90great13:10
gventuriI added a note to that page13:11
nik90just saw it. thnx13:11
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