[10:09] <nik90> gventuri_: we got a bug about the alarm sound at https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-clock-app/+bug/1354370
[10:10] <nik90> gventuri_: need your design opinion
[10:36] <gventuri_> Let me have a look
[10:42] <gventuri_> nik90: most of the sounds are soft-ish, I just tested all of them
[10:42] <nik90> gventuri_: ah
[10:42] <gventuri_> nik90: for the moment, I would use 'Ubuntu' as a defualt
[10:43] <nik90> gventuri_: is there a plan to bring a separate alarm ringtones folder?
[10:43] <nik90> gventuri_: post-rtm?
[10:43] <gventuri_> maybe we could file a bug under sound
[10:43] <nik90> gventuri_: ok
[10:43] <gventuri_> nik90: I think you would need stronger sounds anyway
[10:43] <nik90> yeah
[10:43] <gventuri_> even for ringtones
[10:43] <gventuri_> not just for alarms
[10:44] <gventuri_> could you file a bug?
[10:44] <nik90> ah
[10:44] <gventuri_> is there a 'sounds' project?
[10:44] <nik90> "ubuntu" is the default ringtone for calls as well. Wouldn't it cause confusion?
[10:44] <nik90> there is a ubuntu-touch-sounds project afaik
[10:44] <gventuri_> ok
[10:46] <nik90> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubuntu-touch-sounds
[10:47] <jouni_> hello
[10:47] <gventuri_> jouni_: hi
[10:47] <jouni_> buongiorno
[10:47] <gventuri_> we are talking about the sounds of alarm
[10:47] <jouni_> alright
[10:48] <gventuri_> at the moment they are all quite soft
[10:48] <jouni_> ringtone or alarm?
[10:48] <gventuri_> it would be lovely to have 1-3 sounds that are more strong
[10:48] <gventuri_> I believe it is the same set
[10:48] <gventuri_> Am I mistaken?
[10:48] <jouni_> yeah I can do a couple more no worries
[10:48] <jouni_> yeah same set
[10:49] <gventuri_> that'sokay (for now)
[10:49] <jouni_> users can also add their own sounds
[10:49] <gventuri_> ok
[10:50] <gventuri_> how?
[10:50] <jouni_> just need to save a sound file in the folder on the device
[10:50] <jouni_> hold on lemme see what the path is
[10:50] <nik90> jouni_: that path is in the system folder, dont think users have permission to do add there
[10:51] <gventuri_> can you do that without a PC?
[10:51] <jouni_> there is no gui on the phone, command line only
[10:51] <jouni_> nik90: you remember what the path is?
[10:51] <nik90> 1 sec
[10:52] <nik90> jouni_: /usr/share/sounds/ubuntu/ringtones
[10:52] <jouni_> ah yes there they are
[10:52] <nik90> jouni_: when the phone is connected, the user only sees the home folder (documents, music, pictures and downloads)
[10:52] <nik90> everything else is hidden and restricted
[10:52] <jouni_> so if someone wants to add a ringtone
[10:53] <jouni_> they need to make the image writable first
[10:53] <nik90> yup
[10:53] <jouni_> and then push with adb to the right path
[10:53] <nik90> but that isn't user friendly
[10:53] <jouni_> we could perhaps make system settings able to accept sounds via the content hub
[10:53] <jouni_> so that you could export stuff from say, music app easily
[10:55] <nik90> I suppose yes
[10:55] <jouni_> need to ask the system settings devs.. I’ll find out who they are
[10:55] <gventuri_> also the media player
[10:55] <nik90> jouni_: seb128 and laney afaik
[10:55] <jouni_> yeah was looking for seb but can’t see him online
[10:55] <jouni_> nik90: can you ask them if you see them?
[10:55] <nik90> jouni_: sure
[10:56] <jouni_> gventuri_: yeah if an app accepts a certain filetype via content hub, any other app that outputs that file type can export to it
[10:56] <jouni_> nik90: thank you!
[10:56] <gventuri_> jouni_: on a different node, could we add something like the 'old ringtone' on iOS
[10:56] <jouni_> like an old school phone? yeah sure
[10:57] <gventuri_> cool
[10:57] <nik90> jouni_: yeah I agree with gventuri_, we would still need to add 2-3 ringtones which are strong (like the old school one)
[10:57] <jouni_> was gonna spend a day creating some new sounds after the sprints, I’ll do it next week
[10:57] <jouni_> no problemo
[10:57] <nik90> gventuri_: can you assign jouni_ to that bug in ubuntu-ux
[10:58] <gventuri_> I can't see the bug
[10:58] <nik90> gventuri_: once they land, I will mark that bug resolved
[10:58] <gventuri_> nik90: did you save it?
[10:58] <nik90> gventuri_, jouni_: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-clock-app/+bug/1354370
[10:58] <gventuri_> nik90: ok
[10:58] <jouni_> i assigned myself
[10:59] <gventuri_> ok
[11:00] <nik90> thnx guys
[11:00] <jouni_> no worries
[11:00] <jouni_> what you working on these days nik, the clock?
[11:01] <nik90> yeah the new clock app designs
[11:01] <nik90> gventuri_: oh btw, I have implemented the fastscroll and custom swipe delete similar to the address book. It landed in trunk. Once we get a few more stuff in, I will push an update to store
[11:02] <nik90> jouni_: you can try out the new clock app via the ubuntu touch store. Search for "Clock Reboot"
[11:02] <jouni_> nice, will give it a go
[11:04] <gventuri_> Do you want me to start filing bugs? I noticed a few of them
[11:04] <gventuri_> nik90: on launchpad I mean
[11:04] <nik90> gventuri_: yeah go ahead. I will look into them parallely
[11:04] <gventuri_> nik90: ok, cool
[11:09] <mpt> JohnLea, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SecurityAndPrivacySettings#Locking
[11:09] <JohnLea> mpt; thanks!
[11:10] <JohnLea> mpt; one other question while I'm at it - is there a rotation lock setting somewhere in the designs as well?
[11:11] <JohnLea> mpt; e.g. setting that locks the phone/tablet into it's current orientation?
[11:12] <mpt> JohnLea, yes, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/StatusBar#rotation-lock
[11:12] <mpt> which links to https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SystemSettings#phone-quick-access
[11:27] <mpt> JohnLea, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Storage#Phone
[11:27] <mpt> JohnLea, ogra was the engineer who asked for that
[11:42] <JohnLea> mpt, is there anywhere the user can see their IP address in System Settings atm?
[11:43] <mpt> No
[11:43]  * snwh is surprised there is activity in this channel
[11:45] <JohnLea> mpt, according to the design, will the phone automatically connect to previously connected wifi networks automatically with zero user intervention (e.g. no notifications, the device just connects automatically?)
[11:47] <mpt> JohnLea, if “Auto-join previous networks” is on, which it should be by default. <https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Networking#wi-fi-phone> That option is not implemented yet.
[12:37] <nik90> gventuri: ping
[13:01] <gventuri> nik90 pong
[13:01] <gventuri> nik90: pong
[13:02] <nik90> gventuri: hey I wanted to ask if you thought about the add custom world city by search online feature we discussed sometime back
[13:02] <nik90> gventuri: we are getting closer to rtm and ideally I would like to have the feature implementations done asap and focus on just bug fixes
[13:02] <gventuri> nik90: yeah, I think I added a note to the spec
[13:03] <nik90> oh
[13:03] <gventuri> nik90: https://docs.google.com/a/canonical.com/presentation/d/1JvDyhsW17d1-Mz8OY1YMBKwfRI2z9qgyRjbujEsxEMk/edit#slide=id.g338feb3e7_08
[13:04] <nik90> gventuri: nice. I will then start working on that
[13:04] <gventuri> nik90: it shows a progress indicator while searching online
[13:04] <gventuri> nik90: it might take a while if not on wifi
[13:04] <nik90> gventuri: ok. What happens if the user is not connected online? Due to no wifi or 3g for instance
[13:05] <nik90> although it is a really rare care
[13:05] <nik90> case*
[13:06] <gventuri> nik90: it can happen indeed
[13:06] <gventuri> nik90: maybe we could create an empty state with a call to action to add a new city
[13:07] <gventuri> nik90: or we could just display an empty state with a notification that you are not online
[13:07] <gventuri> the second option is probably my favourite
[13:08] <nik90> gventuri: I think for RTM we should go with third since allowing the user to add his own city is a bit more complicated since I am not sure how that goes well with the day light saving rules and so on.
[13:08] <nik90> I will work on this in the weekend and see where that leads to
[13:09] <gventuri> absolutely
[13:09] <gventuri> that's what I was thinking as well
[13:10] <nik90> great
[13:11] <gventuri> I added a note to that page
[13:11] <nik90> just saw it. thnx