[10:09] gventuri_: we got a bug about the alarm sound at https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-clock-app/+bug/1354370 [10:09] Ubuntu bug 1354370 in Ubuntu UX "default sound for alarm doesn't get its job done" [Undecided,New] [10:10] gventuri_: need your design opinion [10:36] Let me have a look [10:42] nik90: most of the sounds are soft-ish, I just tested all of them [10:42] gventuri_: ah [10:42] nik90: for the moment, I would use 'Ubuntu' as a defualt [10:43] gventuri_: is there a plan to bring a separate alarm ringtones folder? [10:43] gventuri_: post-rtm? [10:43] maybe we could file a bug under sound [10:43] gventuri_: ok [10:43] nik90: I think you would need stronger sounds anyway [10:43] yeah [10:43] even for ringtones [10:43] not just for alarms [10:44] could you file a bug? [10:44] ah [10:44] is there a 'sounds' project? [10:44] "ubuntu" is the default ringtone for calls as well. Wouldn't it cause confusion? [10:44] there is a ubuntu-touch-sounds project afaik [10:44] ok [10:46] https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubuntu-touch-sounds [10:47] hello [10:47] jouni_: hi [10:47] buongiorno [10:47] we are talking about the sounds of alarm [10:47] alright [10:48] at the moment they are all quite soft [10:48] ringtone or alarm? [10:48] it would be lovely to have 1-3 sounds that are more strong [10:48] I believe it is the same set [10:48] Am I mistaken? [10:48] yeah I can do a couple more no worries [10:48] yeah same set [10:49] that'sokay (for now) [10:49] users can also add their own sounds [10:49] ok [10:50] how? [10:50] just need to save a sound file in the folder on the device [10:50] hold on lemme see what the path is [10:50] jouni_: that path is in the system folder, dont think users have permission to do add there [10:51] can you do that without a PC? [10:51] there is no gui on the phone, command line only [10:51] nik90: you remember what the path is? [10:51] 1 sec [10:52] jouni_: /usr/share/sounds/ubuntu/ringtones [10:52] ah yes there they are [10:52] jouni_: when the phone is connected, the user only sees the home folder (documents, music, pictures and downloads) [10:52] everything else is hidden and restricted [10:52] so if someone wants to add a ringtone [10:53] they need to make the image writable first [10:53] yup [10:53] and then push with adb to the right path [10:53] but that isn't user friendly [10:53] we could perhaps make system settings able to accept sounds via the content hub [10:53] so that you could export stuff from say, music app easily [10:55] I suppose yes [10:55] need to ask the system settings devs.. I’ll find out who they are [10:55] also the media player [10:55] jouni_: seb128 and laney afaik [10:55] yeah was looking for seb but can’t see him online [10:55] nik90: can you ask them if you see them? [10:55] jouni_: sure [10:56] gventuri_: yeah if an app accepts a certain filetype via content hub, any other app that outputs that file type can export to it [10:56] nik90: thank you! [10:56] jouni_: on a different node, could we add something like the 'old ringtone' on iOS [10:56] like an old school phone? yeah sure [10:57] cool [10:57] jouni_: yeah I agree with gventuri_, we would still need to add 2-3 ringtones which are strong (like the old school one) [10:57] was gonna spend a day creating some new sounds after the sprints, I’ll do it next week [10:57] no problemo [10:57] gventuri_: can you assign jouni_ to that bug in ubuntu-ux [10:58] I can't see the bug [10:58] gventuri_: once they land, I will mark that bug resolved [10:58] nik90: did you save it? [10:58] gventuri_, jouni_: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-clock-app/+bug/1354370 [10:58] Ubuntu bug 1354370 in Ubuntu UX "default sound for alarm doesn't get its job done" [Undecided,Triaged] [10:58] nik90: ok [10:58] i assigned myself [10:59] ok [11:00] thnx guys [11:00] no worries [11:00] what you working on these days nik, the clock? [11:01] yeah the new clock app designs [11:01] gventuri_: oh btw, I have implemented the fastscroll and custom swipe delete similar to the address book. It landed in trunk. Once we get a few more stuff in, I will push an update to store [11:02] jouni_: you can try out the new clock app via the ubuntu touch store. Search for "Clock Reboot" [11:02] nice, will give it a go [11:04] Do you want me to start filing bugs? I noticed a few of them [11:04] nik90: on launchpad I mean [11:04] gventuri_: yeah go ahead. I will look into them parallely [11:04] nik90: ok, cool [11:09] JohnLea, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SecurityAndPrivacySettings#Locking [11:09] mpt; thanks! [11:10] mpt; one other question while I'm at it - is there a rotation lock setting somewhere in the designs as well? [11:11] mpt; e.g. setting that locks the phone/tablet into it's current orientation? [11:12] JohnLea, yes, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/StatusBar#rotation-lock [11:12] which links to https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SystemSettings#phone-quick-access === MacSlow is now known as MacSlow|lunch [11:27] JohnLea, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Storage#Phone [11:27] JohnLea, ogra was the engineer who asked for that [11:42] mpt, is there anywhere the user can see their IP address in System Settings atm? [11:43] No [11:43] * snwh is surprised there is activity in this channel [11:45] mpt, according to the design, will the phone automatically connect to previously connected wifi networks automatically with zero user intervention (e.g. no notifications, the device just connects automatically?) [11:47] JohnLea, if “Auto-join previous networks” is on, which it should be by default. That option is not implemented yet. === nik90 is now known as nik90|Lunch === nik90|Lunch is now known as nik90 === MacSlow|lunch is now known as MacSlow === greyback is now known as greyback|lunch [12:37] gventuri: ping [13:01] nik90 pong [13:01] nik90: pong [13:02] gventuri: hey I wanted to ask if you thought about the add custom world city by search online feature we discussed sometime back [13:02] gventuri: we are getting closer to rtm and ideally I would like to have the feature implementations done asap and focus on just bug fixes [13:02] nik90: yeah, I think I added a note to the spec [13:03] oh [13:03] nik90: https://docs.google.com/a/canonical.com/presentation/d/1JvDyhsW17d1-Mz8OY1YMBKwfRI2z9qgyRjbujEsxEMk/edit#slide=id.g338feb3e7_08 [13:04] gventuri: nice. I will then start working on that [13:04] nik90: it shows a progress indicator while searching online [13:04] nik90: it might take a while if not on wifi [13:04] gventuri: ok. What happens if the user is not connected online? Due to no wifi or 3g for instance [13:05] although it is a really rare care [13:05] case* [13:06] nik90: it can happen indeed [13:06] nik90: maybe we could create an empty state with a call to action to add a new city [13:07] nik90: or we could just display an empty state with a notification that you are not online [13:07] the second option is probably my favourite [13:08] gventuri: I think for RTM we should go with third since allowing the user to add his own city is a bit more complicated since I am not sure how that goes well with the day light saving rules and so on. [13:08] I will work on this in the weekend and see where that leads to [13:09] absolutely [13:09] that's what I was thinking as well [13:10] great [13:11] I added a note to that page [13:11] just saw it. thnx === greyback|lunch is now known as greyback === om26er is now known as om26er|dinner === om26er|dinner is now known as om26er === nik90 is now known as nik90|Dinner === om26er_ is now known as om26er === nik90|Dinner is now known as nik90