[01:17] <Laney> Chipaca: I can't re-re-review really, traveling back from China today - could you ask someone else to? The leak is real afaics and you could olve it imediately by delete in the destructor. I also think that should be initialised in the initialisation list.
[01:17] <Laney> Feel free to ignore the second thread if you want.
[05:14] <Guest83499> ubuntu touch
[05:14] <Guest83499> indians have cheap rated akash tablet
[05:15] <Guest83499> it is way to enter ubuntu touch  to indian schools
[06:20] <bzoltan> ogra_: is this addition scheduled? https://code.launchpad.net/~bzoltan/ubuntu-seeds/add_settings/+merge/229602
[06:44] <dholbach> good morning
[08:23] <pitti> which component provides the lock screen's "No data sources availble" string?
[08:34] <pitti> dpm: ^ perhaps you happen to know
[08:34] <ogra_> pitti, not 100% sure but i think thats accountservice
[08:34] <dpm> pitti, I don't know, but I saw a translator getting confused by that message (I've never seen it myself)
[08:35] <dpm> pitti, or perhaps libusermetrics?
[08:35] <pitti> dpm: err, it's the standard message in the lock screen
[08:35] <ogra_> pitti, mterry can give you a definite answer
[08:35] <ogra_> pitti, that shouldnt be ... then something is broken for you
[08:35] <pitti> ogra_: I think have about four different things which are called like "accounts service" :)
[08:35] <ogra_> haha
[08:35] <ogra_> yeah
[08:36] <dpm> pitti, on the lock (welcome?) screen I see only my stats, no "No data sources available"
[08:36] <pitti> ogra_: you mean you see that string in German?
[08:36] <ogra_> for some of the info it is german
[08:36] <ogra_> depends on the app that sends it
[08:36] <pitti> well, I don't have any stats, this is a freshly wiped phone
[08:36] <ogra_> if you see the fallback string there is surely something wrong
[08:36] <pitti> ogra_: what shoudl I see instead?
[08:37] <ogra_> "no text messages recieverd today" would be one ...
[08:37] <ogra_> or "$n songs played today"
[08:37] <pitti> it's not in unity8 nor accountsservice
[08:38] <pitti> ogra_: "Nischt los heute!" ?
[08:38] <ogra_> if you double tap the text it should move on to the next store
[08:38] <ogra_> the strings i get from camera and music app are properly translated ... the ones from messaging app arent yet
[08:40] <pitti> ogra_: well, on a freshly installed phone there's zero data from all of them
[08:40] <ogra_> pitti, "Sharing dynamic informations between the user session and the greeter" on the ML should have the answer
[08:40] <ogra_> somewhere buried in the thread
[08:40] <ogra_> pitti, then they should still tell you that :)
[08:41] <pitti> dpm: could you add indicator-transfer to http://projects.davidplanella.org/stats/utopic/de ?
[08:42] <pitti> dpm: ah, nevermind -- https://translations.launchpad.net/indicator-transfer/trunk doesn't exist, and the branch shows it's not i18n'ed
[08:43] <dpm> pitti, I can't, it's not set up for translations
[08:43] <pitti> https://bugs.launchpad.net/indicator-transfer/+bug/1348825
[08:43] <pitti> dpm: sorry for the noise
[08:44] <dpm> pitti, np at all. Here's a list of known i18n issues, if that helps: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-translations/+bugs?field.tag=touch
[08:46] <pitti> dpm: ah thanks; I added my recent one (#1354325)
[08:46] <dpm> awesome, thanks!
[08:48] <ogra_> bzoltan, there are more seed changes that piled up ... i'll look after traincon-0 is over
[08:50] <bzoltan> ogra_: OK, thanks
[09:06] <oSoMoN> does anyone know how memory is managed when an app is quit? I’m seeing neither Component.onDestruction nor Qt.application.aboutToQuit being called, not even destructors of custom C++ components…
[09:09] <ogra_> oSoMoN, i think it just sends SIGKILL
[09:10] <oSoMoN> ogra_, actually, even sending sigquit to the app doesn’t seem to emit those signals or call the dtors, that’s suspicious isn’t it?
[09:10] <oSoMoN> that is, it works fine on desktop, but not on a device
[09:10] <ogra_> dunno, would it normally process all that by default when an external kill signal comes in ?
[09:11] <ogra_> ricmm, ^^^
[09:13] <oSoMoN> ogra_, ah indeed, it doesn’t do that even on desktop when getting a kill signal, my bad
[09:13] <oSoMoN> that’s unfortunate as I have no way of knowing when my app is going to be quit
[09:14] <oSoMoN> it also means that cleanup handlers in every layer of the code are never called…
[09:14] <dpm> ogra_, would you happen to know from which project the Shutdown/Restart dialog when you long-press the on/off button comes from? I'm trying to figure out where to report a bug at
[09:17] <pitti> ogra_: hm, I sent a SMS now, "1 text messages sent today" -> still not translated; does that work for you?
[09:17] <ogra_> yes
[09:17] <ogra_> well, as i said, messaging-app isnt translated here either
[09:17] <ogra_> music and camera send proper german strings
[09:18] <Chipaca> pitti: hiya. got a minute or five?
[09:20] <pitti> ogra_: you mean it appears in German to you? I'm currently digging through messaging-app, seems the pot is again out of date or so (I just completed the translations in LP, but the strings that I saw weren't there)
[09:20] <pitti> Chipaca: what's up?
[09:20] <Chipaca> pitti: dunno if you remember the system settings branch I asked you about, wrt translations
[09:20] <ogra_> pitti, right, photos and messages have german strings here
[09:21] <Chipaca> pitti: I don't know how the translated strings are extracted, in that building the package doesn't result in new extracted strings
[09:21] <Chipaca> pitti: was trying to figure that out, and dpm referred me to you
[09:21] <pitti> Chipaca: I don't remember, I'm afraid
[09:21] <Chipaca> pitti: https://code.launchpad.net/~chipaca/ubuntu-system-settings/push-helper/+merge/229571
[09:22] <Chipaca> clearly the strings are extracted by something, but I don't know what. There are commits by "launchpad automatic translation update" with those changes, but I don't know how to test nor trigger that.
[09:23] <jibel> dpm, I think it's unity8
[09:25] <pitti> Chipaca: "LP automatic translation update" happens by LP itself, if you configure it that new/changed translations shoudl be auto-committed to trunk
[09:25] <pitti> Chipaca: apparently that's on for our touch projects; but this of course relies on an always up to date PO template (.pot)
[09:27] <Chipaca> pitti: updated in the branch, or in the package?
[09:27] <pitti> Chipaca: in the branch
[09:29] <Chipaca> ok, so presumably there's a make target or something i need to run to update that
[09:29] <Chipaca> will dig
[09:29] <Chipaca> pitti: thanks
[09:31] <pitti> Chipaca: just discussing that with Saviq in #ubuntu-devel
[09:31] <Chipaca> mardy: ping. Could you do a review of https://code.launchpad.net/~chipaca/ubuntu-system-settings/push-helper/+merge/229571 at some point? Laney gave it a first pass, but then was unable to continue
[09:31] <pitti> Chipaca: in the last branch I touched, it was "cd obj-*/po; make pot"
[09:31] <pitti> Chipaca: but I hope that there's a simpler way
[09:31] <Chipaca> pitti: :) ok
[09:32] <Chipaca> mardy: also if you could illuminate me wrt how to update the pot, I believe I put everything in place for it to Just Work but need test (and do it)
[09:33] <mardy> Chipaca: AFAIK, you don't need to update the pot
[09:33] <Chipaca> mardy: on the one hand, tell me more about this black magic :)  on the other, i'd like to at least test the pot updating since I added to the mechanism that should do so
[09:34] <Chipaca> because it didn't get strings from python files and now it does (in my branch)
[09:42] <mardy> Chipaca: I'm afraid I can't help you much. But IIRC it was "make pot"
[09:42] <mardy> Chipaca: but don't submit the result
[09:42] <ricmm> ogra_:
[09:43] <ricmm> oSoMoN: so we've been over this a couple of times, apps need to put themselves in a "ready to die unknowingly" state as soon as they as suspended
[09:43] <oSoMoN> ricmm, got it, but that doesn’t apply to manually quitting an app from the dash
[09:44] <ricmm> right, about that one, there is a plan to resume then for when that signal is issued
[09:44] <ricmm> its just been low on the list
[09:44] <ricmm> oSoMoN: but it can be done :) whats the instant benefit of it right now?
[09:44] <oSoMoN> ricmm, but that’s ok, I found an approach that will ensure my app doesn’t need to be aware of when it’s quit
[09:45] <ricmm> great, but as I said, for manual quitting we could do the resume, because its a user action
[09:45] <ricmm> but for low memory cleanup we cant
[09:45] <oSoMoN> right
[09:47] <ricmm> oSoMoN: is this for the browser?
[09:47] <oSoMoN> ricmm, yes
[09:48] <ricmm> did you guys ever start using things like the state saver and so on for the open tabs?
[09:48] <oSoMoN> ricmm, I’m implementing that right now, but not using the state saver because we also want to preserve sessions across reboots
[09:49] <oSoMoN> ricmm, so I’m saving the session persisently under ~/.local/share/webbrowser-app/, and I was trying to use a lock file to ensure that two instances of the app wouldn’t override each other’s sessions when run on desktop (doesn’t apply on touch where only one single instance is allowed to run anyway)
[09:49] <ricmm> why do we want to preserve sessions across rebots?
[09:50] <oSoMoN> ricmm, because you don’t want to loose all your open tabs if you reboot your device
[09:50] <oSoMoN> ricmm, that’s how other browsers do it too
[09:50] <ricmm> well, up to you, I think there was design that said all apps should cycle their caches on reboot
[09:50] <tvoss> oSoMoN, why not use an sqlite database? should take care of the locking automagically
[09:51] <ricmm> but to be fair... I dont mind
[09:51] <ricmm> although one thing is true
[09:51] <ricmm> I have about 70 tabs on my android
[09:51] <ricmm> 65 of which I havent used in months
[09:51] <ricmm> lol
[09:51] <pitti> dpm: how much effort is it for you to refresh http://projects.davidplanella.org/stats/utopic/de?
[09:51] <oSoMoN> ricmm, heh :) that’s a different issue though, tabs management can be a time-consuming task
[09:51] <ricmm> its horrible
[09:51] <ricmm> I'm always waiting for the day when the phone needs an update, they do get cycled then
[09:52] <ricmm> heh
[09:53] <Chipaca> mardy: right! got it. you "make pot" in the *build* dir, and it updates the pot in the *source* dir
[09:53] <Chipaca> mardy: and it works :)
[09:53] <Chipaca> mardy: so what do i do now?
[09:53] <mardy> Chipaca: nothing, don't update the file :-)
[09:53] <Chipaca> mardy: i mean to advance the landing of this branch
[09:56] <oSoMoN> tvoss, can I lock a sqlite db for writing during the entire lifetime of an instance of the app?
[09:57] <tvoss> oSoMoN, yup, http://www.sqlite.org/lockingv3.html
[09:58] <oSoMoN> interesting
[09:59] <oSoMoN> I’d need an exclusive lock on the db for the entire duration of the app’s run
[10:03] <dpm> pitti, it just takes me a minute, so no effort, but unfortunately I'm dependant on the daily LP autocommits. So as there is no LP translations API I cannot query the stats from LP, so every day I do a bzr pull of each project listed to get the stats directly from the po files. So even if I refresh the stats now, as we're past the time exports have been committed, the stats will be the same
[10:03] <pitti> dpm: ah, ok; I thought this was the stats on LP
[10:03] <pitti> dpm: I translated a good chunk now, I'll see in a week when I'm back from holiday :)
[10:04] <dpm> I'd love it to be live stats, but I can't unless I do screen-scraping, which is not something I'm actually considering :)
[10:05] <dpm> sure, or tomorrow if you still happen to be online
[10:06] <pitti> dpm: no, I won't
[10:07] <dpm> pitti, ok, so if we don't happen to talk again before you go, I hope you have a nice holiday :)
[10:07] <pitti> dpm: thanks!
[10:24] <mgreg> with ubuntu touch is it possible to run android apk apps?
[10:24] <ogra_> mgreg, no
[10:25] <mgreg> just native android apps then
[10:29] <tsdgeos> Wellark: https://code.launchpad.net/~aacid/indicator-network/update_pot/+merge/230081
[10:37] <tsdgeos> renatu: what happened to your o?
[10:38] <tsdgeos> renatu: anyway, are you the guy i ask about phone-app?
[10:39] <tsdgeos> or is that boiko?
[10:43] <tsdgeos> hmmm isn't it a bit weird that the browser doesn't let me download a file?
[10:43] <tsdgeos> oSoMoN: ↑
[10:45] <oSoMoN> tsdgeos, download should work, there are a few caveats though, can you elaborate on what you’re trying to do, and what’s happening?
[10:45] <tsdgeos> oSoMoN: so basically i click a link to a .tar.xz file
[10:45] <tsdgeos> oSoMoN: i get a "i don't know how to open this" and a cancel button
[10:46] <oSoMoN> tsdgeos, yeah, known issue, there’s no app to handle the content so it won’t let you download it
[10:46] <tsdgeos> oSoMoN: that's bad :D
[10:46] <oSoMoN> tsdgeos, I suppose we could make the file manager app able to handle all types of content by default, which would solve the issue
[10:46] <tsdgeos> what if i then want to transfer this file to my computer
[10:47] <tsdgeos> since my wifi driver broke and the phone is the only thing i can use to download stuff
[10:47] <tsdgeos> been there :D
[10:47] <oSoMoN> tsdgeos, with the ubuntu security model, an app has to own the file, so there must be at least one handler registered for it
[10:47] <oSoMoN> tsdgeos, use the terminal app and wget :)
[10:48] <tsdgeos> yeahhhh
[10:48] <tsdgeos> no
[10:48] <tsdgeos> oSoMoN: shall i file a bug about it?
[10:48] <oSoMoN> tsdgeos, please do, I’m not sure how it will be addressed yet, but that’s an issue for sure
[10:48] <tsdgeos> oSoMoN: there's also an issue with the browser, doesn't seem to update the address bar until it actually starts loading the page
[10:48] <tsdgeos> which is a bit confusing
[10:49] <tsdgeos> i.e. i'm in start.ubuntu.com, click on the address bar, write google.com, press enter, address bar text goes back to start.ubuntu.com and not until google.com starts loading it updates
[10:49] <tsdgeos> is this known? want a bug too?
[10:50] <oSoMoN> tsdgeos, I’ve seen that too, that’s a valid issue, bug report welcome!
[10:50] <tsdgeos> okidoki
[10:50] <oSoMoN> thanks!
[10:54] <tsdgeos> oSoMoN: which project is it? sorry :D
[10:56] <nik90> Laney: ping (concerning ringtones and alarm sounds import using content-hub from music-app in system-settings)
[10:59] <davmor2> Kaleo: so location on the camera should it actaully show position info somewhere?
[11:00] <davmor2> Kaleo: in the snapped image
[11:01] <Kaleo> davmor2, it's saved in the metadata of the pic, is all
[11:01] <tsdgeos> renatu: also any idea who creates the "Message from" notification?
[11:06] <davmor2> Kaleo: or not http://davmor2.co.uk/~davmor2/screenshots-desktop/location.png
[11:07] <Kaleo> davmor2, I don't remember if nautilus or eog would show you that specific metadata
[11:08] <davmor2> Kaleo: admittedly that was without the fix so it might be that it never got a location as it wasn't allowed to connect to the location service
[11:08] <Kaleo> davmor2, but in any case you are probably hitting the "no GPS info" available
[11:08] <Kaleo> davmor2, no no, it used to work fine
[11:08] <Kaleo> davmor2, just the GPS lock is 10-20 minutes
[11:08] <davmor2> Kaleo: I was using gps at the time in here maps to test that it tracked me correctly
[11:09] <Kaleo> davmor2, ok so try reading the metadata differently:
[11:09] <Kaleo> getting the cmd for you
[11:12] <Kaleo> davmor2, exiv2 pr -p a Pictures/chocolat.png
[11:12] <Kaleo> grep on GPS
[11:14] <freundTech> I got a question: I'm interested in porting Ubuntu-Touch for Samsung Galaxy Y GT-S5360. I already read the porting guide, but my problem is, that there is no CM 10.1 for the Galaxy Y. There are no official CM build and the latest inofficial version is CM 9.2 (Some librarys are outdated and closed source, so newer versions are not possible). Is it still possible to port Ubuntu-Touch?
[11:14] <davmor2> Kaleo: Exif.Image.GPSTag                            Long        1  390
[11:16] <Kaleo> davmor2, as in that's the only line?
[11:16] <davmor2> Kaleo: yeap
[11:17] <Kaleo> davmor2, so, you enabled location in the settings?
[11:17] <Kaleo> davmor2, and is it really allowed to the location service?
[11:18] <Kaleo> davmor2, (I know it was working 2 weeks ago, 3 independent people confirmed it)
[11:18] <davmor2> Kaleo: this was yesterday, that's what I'm saying I don't know if the camera could talk to location service.  I was just curious to know if it should and what I should see
[11:19] <Kaleo> davmor2, right
[11:39] <oSoMoN> tsdgeos, sorry, just saw your question: https://bugs.launchpad.net/webbrowser-app/+filebug
[11:39] <tsdgeos> oSoMoN: yeah found it laready, no worries
[11:47] <derek-g> cmon guys. release ubuntu phone already.
[11:48] <popey> happy birthday tvoss
[11:48] <tvoss> popey, thank you :)
[11:49] <tsdgeos> anyone knows where the 7digital scope lives? is that server side?
[11:49] <tsdgeos> pstolowski: ↑
[11:50] <pstolowski> tsdgeos, yes
[11:51] <tsdgeos> pstolowski: is the code public? how does one translate it?
[11:52] <tsdgeos> Wellark: i'm disabling the wifi but it stays connected
[11:52] <tsdgeos> Wellark: any idea what is wrong and do you want me to do something to debug it?
[11:53] <pstolowski> tsdgeos, https://launchpad.net/ubuntu-rest-scopes pls check with facundobatista or davidcalle
[11:53] <tsdgeos> pstolowski: oki, after lunch
[12:13] <kissiel> Hi guys! Do I understand correctly, that Devel flavour of emulator reflects what will be in RTM image?
[12:15] <lool> right now, we're all tracking devel/utopic; in some time, the archive will be branched for RTM but that will be announced
[12:16] <lool> kissiel: for now, devel is the base of what will be in RTM
[12:16] <kissiel> lool, so if I want to have look and feel of what will become RTM i should stick with devel?
[12:16] <lool> for now, yes
[12:16] <kissiel> lool, allright, thanks
[12:16] <lool> if you're sub-ed to ubuntu-phone@, you should see an announcement when RTM archive is branched
[12:17] <kissiel> lool, ok, ty
[12:41] <Chipaca> how do i request a wakelock? (where can i read about that?)
[12:43] <Chipaca> rsalveti: is that ^ a question for you?
[12:44] <ogra_> i dont think your app can, only a truted helper will
[12:44] <Chipaca> rsalveti: (btw: hi. Also btw: news about sound profiles?)
[12:44] <ogra_> *trusted
[12:44] <rsalveti> Chipaca: sorry, not yet, will ping you soon
[12:44] <rsalveti> Chipaca: only system services can request a wakelock
[12:44] <rsalveti> via powerd
[12:44] <Chipaca> I thought push notifications counted as a system service
[12:45] <Chipaca> a trusted one at that
[12:45] <rsalveti> Chipaca: can you explain what you're trying to implement?
[12:45] <Chipaca> rsalveti: waking the device from deep sleep to check notifications
[12:46] <tvoss> Chipaca, is that for push or for poll?
[12:46] <rsalveti> Chipaca: right, that needs to be a hwalarm (platform-api) and then a suspend blocker once the device is up
[12:46] <rsalveti> tvoss: poll
[12:46] <rsalveti> push can't wake up the device unless via sms or phone calls
[12:46] <Chipaca> rsalveti: yes, got platform api, am looking around for the suspend blocker
[12:47] <Chipaca> um
[12:47] <Chipaca> rsalveti: this is for push
[12:47] <rsalveti> but a push that is actually a poll, right?
[12:47] <tvoss> Chipaca, why would push need to wake the device?
[12:47] <Chipaca> tvoss: to check for notifications?
[12:47] <rsalveti> your process is waking up the device to check for something, so that's more of a poll :-)
[12:48] <Chipaca> rsalveti: well, yes, it needs to poll until we implement waking via special sms'es
[12:48] <Chipaca> rsalveti: yes. The service that polls is called push notifications.
[12:49] <Chipaca> we'd need to implement poll even if we had waking via special sms'es, anyway, because those don't always go through
[12:49] <Chipaca> tvoss: rsalveti: push will poke polld for it to go check its things also, btw
[12:50] <tvoss> Chipaca, what is the wakeup frequency we are talking about here?
[12:50] <Chipaca> tvoss: configurable. 15 minutes? 5?
[12:50] <tvoss> Chipaca, well, the less frequent the better
[12:50] <rsalveti> right
[12:50] <Chipaca> agreed, to a point
[12:50] <tvoss> Chipaca, what is the duration of staying awake?
[12:50] <Chipaca> i'd argue that polling once an hour is pretty useless :)
[12:51] <Chipaca> tvoss: again configurable; i'd say ~a minute worst case?
[12:51] <Chipaca> worst case == the network takes a long time to come up, and is then slow
[12:53] <rsalveti> Chipaca: so I'd assume you first need to wake up the device, and keep the cpu on until the check for notifications is done
[12:53] <rsalveti> Chipaca: then you'd also want to present that to the user, and how would that happen?
[12:53] <rsalveti> Chipaca: waking up the screen for the timeout period or just enabling the led notification?
[12:53] <rsalveti> vibrating and such
[12:54] <rsalveti> Chipaca: to keep the cpu on (not screen), you need to request a system state from powerd: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/powerd
[12:54] <Chipaca> rsalveti: yes, the loop AIUI right now would be: set alarm for N mins in the future. Block waiting for it (in a goroutine). Once fired, grab wakelock, wait for network, poke polld, check notifications, wait for polld ack, wait for notifications to be presented, release wakelock
[12:54] <rsalveti> and release when done
[12:55] <rsalveti> Chipaca: so I'd assume you need to turn the screen on when presenting the notifications
[12:55] <Chipaca> rsalveti: notifications would just vibrate, go to the messaging menu etc; if the screen is off you won't see bubbles
[12:55] <rsalveti> that would need to happen via the system-compositor api
[12:55] <Chipaca> no, no screen on
[12:55] <rsalveti> oh, perfect then
[12:57] <Chipaca> is there a way to answer "did the device go to deep sleep"?
[12:57] <Chipaca> or do i use heuristics?
[13:00] <Chipaca> man, i wish i had a device that actually deep slept :-(
[13:00] <rsalveti> Chipaca: have a flo?
[13:00] <rsalveti> Chipaca: otherwise with a mako, remove your sim
[13:01] <Chipaca> rsalveti: mako
[13:01]  * Chipaca throws the sim out the window
[13:01] <rsalveti> Chipaca: no easy way atm
[13:01] <rsalveti> Chipaca: the kernel knows that
[13:01] <rsalveti> so the way to check now is running dmesg after resuming and checking the kernel log
[13:02] <Chipaca> rsalveti: I think i'll just check whether the connection dropped
[13:02] <Chipaca> should be good enough
[13:02] <rsalveti> Chipaca: also remove the usb cable
[13:02] <rsalveti> right
[13:32] <mhall119> popey: davmor2: you guys re-flash regularly, is the SoundCloud scope one of the default installed ones?
[13:33] <ogra_> it isnt on 178
[13:35] <mhall119> ok, thanks
[13:38] <ogra_> mhall119, and serching for soundcloud in the store doesnt reveal a scope either
[13:40] <ogra_> tvoss, oh ... on a sidenote ...
[13:40] <ogra_> tvoss, HAPPY BIRTHDAY !!!!
[13:41] <mhall119> oh, happy birthday tvoss
[13:45] <mhall119> hmm, online music and online videos scopes are gone now?
[13:45] <tsdgeos> is there any workaround for the gallery crashing
[13:45] <tsdgeos> ?
[13:45] <tsdgeos> i need to test mms sending
[13:46] <tsdgeos> which needs me to pick up something from the gallery
[13:46] <mhall119> tsdgeos: what image?
[13:46] <tsdgeos> mhall119: latest
[13:46] <rsalveti> tvoss: happy birthday!
[13:46] <mhall119> devel-proposed?
[13:46] <tsdgeos> yes
[13:46] <mhall119> is there a bug for the gallery crashing?
[13:47] <pmcgowan> tsdgeos, there is a branch on the bug
[13:47] <tsdgeos> someone told me it was known
[13:47]  * mhall119 doesn't actually have a workaround for you, sorry
[13:47] <tsdgeos> pmcgowan: do you have the bug# at hand?
[13:47] <pmcgowan> https://bugs.launchpad.net/barajas/+bug/1351289
[13:47] <pmcgowan> hoping for real fix from kdub
[13:47] <tsdgeos> tx
[13:48] <kdub> pmcgowan, its kinda smelling like a hybris or driver problem, not sure what to suggest next
[13:50] <pmcgowan> kdub, ok not sure either
[13:53] <tvoss> rsalveti, thank you :)
[14:13] <tsdgeos> is it me or clicking the "new" icon in the calendar all doesn't seem to do anything?
[14:19] <popey> tsdgeos: wfm
[14:19] <tsdgeos> popey: not the hamburger -> new
[14:19] <tsdgeos> but the new that is directly besides the hambuger
[14:20] <popey> thats not new
[14:20] <popey> thats "go to today"
[14:20] <popey> so if you're on today, yeah, it won't do anything
[14:20] <ogra_> now i'm hungry
[14:21] <tsdgeos> popey: lol, is it?
[14:21] <tsdgeos> ok, then we need tooltips ;)
[14:21] <nik90> tsdgeos, popey: no the icon needs to be changed. I had the same issue before as well
[14:22] <popey> eh?
[14:22] <popey> i see a box with a tick in it
[14:22] <popey> new is a box with a +
[14:23] <popey> dpm: https://translations.launchpad.net/camera-app/trunk/+pots/camera-app/en_GB/19/+translate what do you propose?
[14:23] <dpm> popey, "Rubbish bin"
[14:23] <popey> haha
[14:23] <dpm> sorry, couldn't resist
[14:24] <dpm> popey, I'd send another translation suggestion
[14:24] <popey> to revert it back?
[14:24] <dpm> I'd translate it as the original to be consistent with the rest of the apps
[14:24] <popey> k
[14:24] <popey> done
[14:26] <nik90> popey: true but a calendar icon with a tick inside doesn't really say "Today".. I don't have ideas on how to fix it, but it is a bit confusing icon IMO
[14:26] <popey> well indeed
[14:33] <rsalveti> kdub: is that happening on every device?
[14:33] <rsalveti> because the tls slots should be the same for all of them
[14:35] <kdub> rsalveti, its apparently krillin only
[14:35] <kdub> but, I'm just going from the bug comments
[14:36] <rsalveti> afaik bad context was a quite common warning
[14:37] <kdub> it might be, but its raising SIGILL on a eglMakeCurrent, so this one seems like a warning related to the real cause
[14:38] <rsalveti> oh, yeah
[14:38] <Randy_O> Hi everyone, anyone with CMake experience? I've got everything set to compile and build, but when I run the main.qml file, it tells me that my plugin module is not installed. Any ideas how to point it to the right place?
[14:38] <rsalveti> interesting that I'm getting a crash and no BAD_CONTEXT
[14:43] <kdub> maybe there's a missing hybris hook?
[15:13] <olli> Saviq, ricmm suggests to bump https://bugs.launchpad.net/unity8/+bug/1338430 to critical in order to gain better UX, are you OK with putting that on your list?
[15:13] <rsalveti> kdub: could be as well, but interesting that the workaround is not related with that
[15:13] <olli> pmcgowan, ^
[15:13] <Saviq> olli, it kind of is on our list
[15:14] <pmcgowan> olli, yeah I think we need to
[15:14] <Saviq> olli, at least improving it in some ways
[15:14] <Saviq> olli, done
[15:18] <olli> Saviq, thx!
[15:22] <pmcgowan> kdub, rsalveti you guys have thoughts on that gallery issue?
[15:23] <nik90> sergiusens: hi, dholbach came quite close to fixing the debian packaging along with your cmake fixes. We have still have a bit more to do since it doesn't seem to run on the device using the generated click package. It just shows a failed event without so much saying why it doesn't run
[15:26] <sergiusens> nik90: ok, I'll check that now that I'm home
[15:26] <nik90> sergiusens: sweet.thnx
[15:28] <mpt> Ohhh … I can set a passcode, turn on Developer Mode, then get rid of the passcode
[15:29] <mpt> That probably isn’t a good idea
[15:29] <ogra_> mpt, the backend isnt replaced yet
[15:29] <mpt> ogra_, what does that mean?
[15:29] <ogra_> mpt, adbd will not start if no password is set, it checks that explicitly
[15:30] <ogra_> the UI will pick that up once these bits have been replaced underneath
[15:30] <ogra_> (read: this is not final yet)
[15:30] <ogra_> the actual implementation switches off dev mode along with the password going away
[15:31] <mpt> ogra_, so when you go back to the Developer Mode screen the switch will be off?
[15:31] <ogra_> yes
[15:31] <mpt> excellent
[15:31] <ogra_> i cant replace adb until everyone is ready for that switch ... thats why it still behave like that
[15:32] <ogra_> (lab testing, SDK, phablet-tools, everyone uses adb ... switching that to not run as root means a lot of assumptions need correcting ;) )
[15:39] <rsalveti> pmcgowan: I'd need to check, will try to get to that later today
[15:40] <pmcgowan> rsalveti, thanks
[16:58] <kenvandine> elopio, https://code.launchpad.net/~ken-vandine/content-hub/testability/+merge/230145
[17:58] <jhodapp> mzanetti, PING
[17:58] <jhodapp> mzanetti, sorry for the caps :)
[18:28] <squinty> any web page for instructions on dual-booting ubuntu-touch and kitkat 4.4 on a google nexus 7?  I have a utube tutorial video that covers that topic but wish to cross reference the information before attempting the process.  thanks. :)
[18:29] <squinty> oh.. nexus 7 (2013)
[18:30] <mzanetti> jhodapp: hey
[18:31] <jhodapp> mzanetti, just wanted to follow up about what you asked me yesterday with that crash
[18:31] <mzanetti> ah, right.
[18:31] <mzanetti> jhodapp: I haven't been able to track it down
[18:31] <mzanetti> jhodapp: I could get as far as this:
[18:32] <mzanetti> jhodapp: the crash happens in /usr/bin/unity8
[18:32] <mzanetti> it leads to the MediaPlayer somewhere
[18:32] <mzanetti> jhodapp: last thing happening in unity is the media player app being launched
[18:32] <jhodapp> mzanetti, it seemed to me that something is going out of scope before it should and that makes media-hub crash
[18:33] <mzanetti> jhodapp: thing is, the dash is not part of unity8 any more
[18:33] <mzanetti> jhodapp: which means, I'm struggling to see what could have been using the media player in unity
[18:33] <mzanetti> jhodapp: all I could think if is notifications
[18:34] <mzanetti> so maybe some notification sound, the media player is launched and that collides somehow... but seems a bit far-fetched too...
[18:34] <jhodapp> mzanetti, but what sound would play then?
[18:34] <mzanetti> no clue...
[18:34] <mzanetti> Saviq: did you have any better ideas regarding this? ^
[18:35] <jhodapp> mzanetti, have you watched the media-hub log live? tail -f /home/phablet/.cache/upstart/media-hub.log
[18:35] <mzanetti> jhodapp: this happens in automated testing
[18:35] <Saviq> mzanetti, nope, nothing more
[18:35] <mzanetti> jhodapp: that random input stuff
[18:35] <jhodapp> mzanetti, oh I see
[18:35] <Saviq> we should have a camera recording ↑ 
[18:35] <mzanetti> jhodapp: I asked if we could maybe supply it with some screen recording somehow...
[18:36] <mzanetti> Saviq: yeah, I asked robotfuel about it. He said he might have some ideas
[18:37] <mzanetti> robotfuel: hey, maybe having the media-hub.log would be useful too...
[18:37] <jhodapp> mzanetti, that's a good idea
[19:00] <ajalkane> Trying to run autopilot tests on desktop. Anyone know what I should install when getting this error:
[19:00] <ajalkane> ImportError: No module named ubuntuuitoolkit
[19:01] <robotfuel> ajalkane: apt-get install ubuntu-ui-toolkit-autopilot
[19:03] <ajalkane> robotfuel: thanks, that did it
[19:17] <nik90> mzanetti: quick question, if I provide an example from online, say http://api.geonames.org/search?q=Samoa&maxRows=10&username=krnekhelesh will that still work with Qt XMLReader that you implemented?
[19:19] <nik90> mzanetti: In the loadTimeZonesFromXml() function, you use QFile to provide the XML file to the XMLReader. But say instead I provide a link to it after replacing QFile appropriately that should still work, right?
[19:52] <arketyp> Hi. Sorry, I'm a little bit lost in the documentation. I'm wondering if anyone knows the status with multitouch gestures for the 2nd gen Thinkpad X1 Carbon...?
[19:53] <arketyp> Currently I only have two-finger gestures working, out of the box.
[19:55] <arketyp> The touchpad that is, not the screen. Maybe I'm in the wrong forum.
[20:03] <mzanetti> nik90: still here?
[20:03] <nik90> mzanetti: sort of
[20:03] <mzanetti> nik90: I'd recommend to check if the server supports json
[20:03] <nik90> mzanetti: it does
[20:04] <nik90> mzanetti: why?
[20:04] <mzanetti> nik90: then it's quite straight forward with QJsonDocument
[20:04] <nik90> ah
[20:04] <mzanetti> just fetch it like my wheretheissat does
[20:04] <nik90> mzanetti: would I have to deal with QNetwork and so on like you did in your example?
[20:05] <mzanetti> basically you just load it with QNetworkRequest and then use QJsonDocument::toVariantMap() and have all the data there
[20:05] <mzanetti> nik90: yes, but that's not much more complicated than loading a file
[20:05] <nik90> mzanetti: okay. I will have a go at it and see where I get with it
[20:06] <mzanetti> nik90: well, let me know if you need help
[20:11] <cwayne> nik90: hey, how did you get the geonames username?
[20:15] <nik90> cwayne: I created one myself there
[20:15] <nik90> cwayne: anyone can
[20:15] <cwayne> nik90: oh, do you have a link?
[20:15] <cwayne> oh nm
[20:15] <cwayne> sorry, i somehow missed the link on the top right
[20:16] <nik90> yup
[20:16] <nik90> no worries
[21:56] <zeusz4u> anyone online?
[21:56] <zeusz4u> need help!!!
[22:00] <zeusz4u> can anyone help me?
[22:01] <Beldar> zeusz4u, state the issue for assistance.
[22:01] <zeusz4u> I'm having issues installing Ubuntu Touch on a Nexus 7 2013 flo
[22:01] <zeusz4u> http://askubuntu.com/questions/508784/issues-installing-ubuntu-on-nexus-7-2013-cant-get-past-the-ubuntu-recovery-imag
[22:01] <zeusz4u> I have also posted my question here
[22:01] <zeusz4u> the problem is I cannot get past the Ubuntu recovery screen
[22:02] <zeusz4u> According to the instructions it should be pretty straight forward
[22:02] <zeusz4u> no input needed from the user
[22:02] <zeusz4u> no matter what option I chose there, I always end up booting into Android
[22:03] <Beldar> dude calm down, you 're disappointed anyway, this is free help treat it as such.
[22:03] <zeusz4u> Secure Boot enabled and Lock State is Unlocked
[22:04] <zeusz4u> i know... it's in development
[22:04] <zeusz4u> under development
[22:04] <zeusz4u> I didn't expect to have such issues... after all, every Nexus 7 2013 device has the same firmware...
[22:05] <zeusz4u> so if it works on one, it should work on every single device
[22:06] <zeusz4u> Any ideas what I am doing wrong?
[22:07] <zeusz4u> I followed the step-by-step guide in the official Ubuntu Touch tutorial
[22:07] <zeusz4u> and I think something's wrong, and I should not be getting this error in the terminal:
[22:07] <zeusz4u> Cannot cleanup tree to ensure clean deploymentexit status 255
[22:08] <zeusz4u> maybe I should try a different channell?
[22:08] <zeusz4u> I mean, software channell
[22:08] <cwayne> the only thing that looks different is that it's from a VM
[22:09] <cwayne> im not sure that should matter though
[22:09] <cwayne> id rm -rf ~/.cache/ubuntuimages and try again
[22:10] <zeusz4u> I don't know how to configure virtualbox to connect the device automatically, and directly access the physical USB ports whenever the tablet is connected...
[22:10] <zeusz4u> I always have to go to Devives > USB Devices, and enable the tablet
[22:10] <zeusz4u> the adb devices will list the tablet
[22:10] <zeusz4u> and shows it's in recovery mode
[22:10] <cwayne> if its in recovery, you shouldn't be doing --bootstrap
[22:11] <zeusz4u> I also have a first gen Nexus 7, but I see that is no longer supported
[22:11] <zeusz4u> By the way, by unlocking I think I've voided my warranty anyway :)
[22:12] <zeusz4u> i don't care too much about it
[22:12] <cwayne> nope
[22:12] <cwayne> I've called google to ask about that specifically
[22:12] <cwayne> it doesn't void warranty :)
[22:12] <zeusz4u> well that's good news
[22:12] <zeusz4u> it showed me a warning at some point
[22:12] <zeusz4u> that unlocking the bootloader might void warranty
[22:16] <cwayne> yeah but I've called and asked them specifically and they said it didnt
[22:39] <zeusz4u> ~$ ubuntu-device-flash --channel=devel 2014/08/08 17:36:14 Expecting the device to expose an adb interface... 2014/08/08 17:36:14 exit status 255
[22:39] <zeusz4u> i'm getting this error when I try to execute the command without --bootstrap
[22:40] <zeusz4u> I deleted the cache files
[22:40] <zeusz4u> and I'm redownloading them now
[22:41] <squinty> zeusz4u:  fwiw, just about an hour or so ago I installed ubuntu-touch on my google nexus 7 (2013) using the information at the following page (and a couple of other links)  http://allhackersnews.com/2013/12/multiboot-system-multirom-nexus-5nexus-7.html
[22:43] <zeusz4u> did you keep Android?
[22:44] <zeusz4u> I don't need Android now, I have a different Nexus 7 first gen tablet which is running android
[22:44] <zeusz4u> btw, I've seen MultiROM on youtube
[22:45] <zeusz4u> fingers crossed, it's uploading the images to my device
[22:45] <zeusz4u> I'm at the Ubuntu Recovery screen, once again
[22:46] <zeusz4u> maybe I'll try the stable channell now
[22:47] <zeusz4u> or maybe stick with Android
[23:19] <squinty> zeusz4u:  fwiw, I installed Ubuntu touch on my google nexus 7 (2013) an hour or so ago and didn't have any problems doing it.  followed the directions at (as well as a couple of other links)  http://allhackersnews.com/2013/12/multiboot-system-multirom-nexus-5nexus-7.html
[23:21] <squinty> zeusz4u:  not really sure if I am that thrilled about it to be honest though...early days yet though.  Then again, android doesn't really either for that matter which is why I was interested in seeing what Ubuntu Touch could do
[23:29] <cwayne> squinty: any specifics of whats wrong?
[23:31] <zeusz4u> I was also interested to see it in action
[23:31] <zeusz4u> and play with it for a couple of weeks
[23:32] <zeusz4u> I would probably have reintalled Android 4.4.4 anyway, as stock version was 4.4.2, and system updates was not yet picking up any further system updates
[23:32] <zeusz4u> I did a reinstall from factory image a few minutes ago
[23:33] <zeusz4u> one think i frogot to do is to use sudo when tried installing ubuntu
[23:33] <zeusz4u> i ran it with my current user's privileges
[23:45] <cwayne> is there a test suite for reminders?