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diddledanooh debian import freeze00:56
* diddledan gets chilly00:56
diddledannot long now00:56
diddledanjust over two months I guess00:57
deidshi01:07
deidshi01:07
deidsi'm using debian 8 and i cant find the package dhcp3-server how come?? there is a replacement package?01:08
deidsany idea?01:08
stgraberisc-dhcp-server01:09
xnoxstgraber: you are, from now on, british to me =)01:10
stgraberxnox: :)01:11
Laneytally ho01:19
deidsstgraber: thanks! save me!01:23
deidsi get error at the boot "intel rapl no valid rapl domains"01:30
deidswhat make it happened?01:30
daftykinsdeids: this isn't debian support01:56
daftykinsdeids: the clue is in the channel name01:56
deidsmmm but ubuntu based on debian so it's about the same..01:57
deidshow i can check if the dhcp server is running?01:58
deidsdaftykins: ^01:58
daftykinsyes i know, but why not join the debian channel :P02:02
mappsagh05:32
mappspower cable fell out again:<05:32
knightwisemornin everyone06:54
diploMorning all07:02
knightwisemornin Diplo !07:02
mappsmorningall07:28
mapps*morning all even07:28
knightwisehey mapps07:28
mappsjust watched new gang related07:34
mappsgreat eo07:34
knightwiseeo ,07:34
knightwise?07:35
mappsep07:35
mapps;p07:35
knightwiseah07:35
mappsgot more tv to watch07:36
mappsbt too late now07:36
knightwisewe just finished downton abbey here07:36
knightwisebinge watching some shows07:36
mappsnever seen07:36
knightwisenot bad at all.07:38
knightwisefor the rest i'm hunting down some fan made star trek episodes07:38
knightwiseand i've found some good stuff out there07:38
knightwise(and some horribly terrible stuff)07:38
knightwisemapps: do you ahve experience with vnc4server ?07:49
mappsused it once07:58
mappswhats up07:59
knightwiseI got it running on the server , but how do you connect to it ?08:00
knightwisejust plain via vnc ?08:00
mappsneed a vnc client08:00
mappsyea08:00
mappstightvncviewer08:00
mappshttp://www.tightvnc.com/download.php08:00
mappswas what i used08:01
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SuperMattyo guys, in unity on 14.04, is there a way to use the classic lock screen?08:17
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xnoxSuperMatt: why would you want to? did you find bugs?08:36
SuperMattcolleague of mine is having some issues where sometimes he can't enter his password in to the box08:36
SuperMattand I had something similar this morning when I woke my laptop from suspend08:37
popeywonder if it's that unity7 error where your password leaks through the screensaver?08:40
brobostigonmorning boys and girls.08:46
SuperMattpopey: I genuinely don't know. All I know was mine was installed from 14.04.1 last night08:51
popeycould be, saw someone ranting about it somewhere08:59
popeyhttps://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/unity/+bug/1349128/comments/609:00
lubotu3Ubuntu bug 1349128 in Unity 7.2 "Ubuntu 14.04 lock screen doesn't accept keyboard input and sends it back to the underlying window (until using indicators)" [Critical,In progress]09:00
SuperMattthanks popealicious09:01
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dvrrHow to Recover dropped Database in mysql  ubuntu  please guide me09:06
Gargoyledvrr: From your backup09:08
popey+1 correct answer every time09:09
nigelbGargoyle++09:10
bigcalmGood morning peeps :)09:10
GargoyleMorning bigcalm09:10
dvrri don't have  backup  that is local machine09:11
dvrrGargoyle09:11
Gargoyledvrr: No backup = no database. You deleted it... gone... end of.09:14
Gargoyledvrr: From the MySQL Docs: "Be *very* careful with this statement!"09:16
dvrrGargoyle  I accidentally dropped my MySQL database  if any other way to recover  my db09:19
SuperMattno09:20
SuperMattyou deleted it and now it is gone09:20
Gargoyledvrr: Nope.09:20
SuperMattmaybe your hosting has some kind of backup09:20
SuperMattwho are you hosted with?09:20
popeyhe said it's local machine09:21
SuperMattah09:21
SuperMattthen no09:21
bigcalmYou could send the machine to a data recovery firm and keep your fingers crossed09:21
Gargoyledvrr: when you say "my MySQL" database. Do you mean a database you created with your own data or MySQL's internal "mysql" databse, and hence have borked your mysql install?09:22
dvrrno that is  mysql  database  only09:26
Gargoyledvrr: Not sure what that reply means! Do you have important data you need to recover or just get mysql working again?09:27
dvrrsince 2 days  user  working that database  lost 2 days data  important09:31
dvrr100 mb data09:32
Gargoyledvrr: That's bad luck... Well, not really luck. Lesson learned, eh.09:46
SuperMattyeah, drop is one of the commands I use VERY carefully, I will check and double check everything09:47
SuperMattsame with rm09:47
SuperMattI don't trust myself not to be a spazz09:48
GargoyleSuperMatt: Snap.09:48
popeyditto09:48
GargoyleAny data = Backup09:48
GargoyleImportant Data = Backup Twice09:48
SuperMattI deal with a lot of customer stuff, natch, and mysqldump is done before almost everything09:48
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MyrttiI have to say I was extremely positively surprised by Norwegian in comparison to Ryanair10:37
Myrttismall things make a great difference10:37
jpdsErm, you could s/Norwegian/$ANYTHING/ over Ryanair.10:37
Myrttiok.10:39
MyrttiI won't go into details then.10:40
davmor2Myrtti: did it have seats?10:53
MyrttiRyanair has seats so ergo so does Norwegian.10:54
davmor2Myrtti: haha it was meant as a joke :)  I've mostly only flown virgin and Lufthansa and they were both lovely.  Malta air was a little hairy hey JamesTait ?10:56
MyrttiI've flown Finnair, KLM, Delta, United, Virgin Atlantic, Ryanair and now Norwegian. I've disliked United the most.11:04
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Myrttilittle miss purry seems to have a different opinion on what is my job11:27
davmor2Myrtti: she's a cat ofcourse she things you're only there to love her, fuss her and feed her11:30
OERIASPlease help me!11:31
Myrttiit's funny though, she's a proper princess. No touching, no petting, no nothing unless HRH Bella, Duchess of Valkeakoski demands so.11:31
MyrttiOERIAS: have you blown a lightbulb?11:31
davmor2OERIAS: it helps if you ask something11:32
OERIASI was banned from #ubuntu and I need someone here to ask IdleMan to please reinstate me11:32
OERIASI am repenting for my sins as we speak11:33
OERIASAnd I will behave11:33
Myrttiach so.11:34
popeyask in #ubuntu-ops11:34
OERIASbanned there too mate11:35
* popey checks the ban list11:35
popeyno, you're not11:35
OERIASWell please be kind, speak to IdelMan11:36
popeytake it to #ubuntu-ops11:36
OERIASI don't want to risk an expulsion from #ubuntu-ops11:36
popeythis is not the place to sort your bans11:36
popeycontinuing with this doesn't help you.11:36
OERIASOkay, thank you11:36
directhexpopey: if you feed http://jenkins.mono-project.com/repo/xamarin.gpg to apt-key and "deb http://jenkins.mono-project.com/repo/debian sid main" to apt, you should be able to install mono-snapshot-XXXXXXXXX packages, which correspond to git commits. allows mono-using developers access to the latest crack, and also easy binary bisecting of bugs11:51
directhexthe mono-snapshot command sets up the parallel environment11:51
GargoyleAwwwww man!!! dvrr jinxed me! https://www.dropbox.com/s/vqy3k3d9gegnt99/Screen%20Shot%202014-08-08%20at%2012.56.35.png11:58
knightwiseGargoyle: I feel your pain12:00
Gargoyleknightwise: It's no biggie. Happens now and again. I just click "backup now", and it works.12:01
GargoyleI never realised how much TimeMachine likes very specific versions of protocols.12:02
GargoyleAnd my readyNAS is probably well overdue an update12:02
knightwiseThats why I love the ubuntu backup app. it backs up to everything ... over ssh , smb , the whole shbang12:02
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GargoyleYeah. I don't know why Apple didn't just implement it in the sense of "just point me to some other location - by whatever means you like"12:04
popeyyeah12:09
popeythat annoys me too12:09
GargoyleYou can do that from the command line. But it's a right faff!12:10
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knightwiseyou mean an Rsync12:17
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diddledanmorning13:17
bigcalmThis Friday is taking a long time to finish15:04
diploSure is bigcalm !15:16
diploAnd I've only been back since yesterday :/15:16
diddledano_O so I've just got a new vps - it's running 12.04.5 so I figured I'd upgrade to 14.04 but do-release-upgrade doesn't seem to want to do it15:54
diddledanit seems do-release-upgrade does suggest 14.04 when you ask it to upgrade to a development release15:56
mappsgood afternoon16:51
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rindolfCross posting from #gllug: Hi all. If anyone wants to meet me ( http://www.shlomifish.org/ ) - I'm in Heathrow now for this con - https://nineworlds.co.uk/ - it's great too BTW.17:22
popeyhello Shlomi17:32
rindolfpopey: meow.17:34
popeyI'd never heard of nineworlds17:34
rindolfpopey: now you did.17:35
rindolfpopey: my friend told me about it.17:35
popeywell indeed17:35
rindolfpopey: we can meet in the hotel.17:35
rindolfpopey: it's a bit of a grassroots con, with many people who are disabled, LGBT/etc.17:35
popeySadly not, I won't be able to come to it this time.17:35
popeycool.17:36
rindolfpopey: ah, OK.17:36
rindolfpopey: are you too busy?17:36
popeyneed to spend time with the family17:36
rindolfpopey: ah.17:36
rindolfpopey: how old are your children?17:36
popey7 & 1017:36
rindolfpopey: ah, so quite old.17:36
popeyyeah. one just had an operation so is recovering17:37
rindolfpopey: I'd love to meet them too.17:37
popeyso this weekend is a special blend of caring for one while not leaving the other one out17:37
rindolfpopey: ah, I see. Good luck to him.17:37
rindolfpopey: ah.17:37
rindolfpopey: I think it's important to encourage people like that to not be needy.17:38
popeyheh17:38
rindolfpopey: and children should not be pushed into doing things they don't want to do.17:38
rindolfpopey: there's always time to change.17:38
popeySomeone very incosiderate is cooking bbq near me, I can smell it and am now very hungry, and have to go cook..17:38
popeyanother time rindolf ☻17:39
rindolfpopey: bye ,, bon appetit.17:39
rindolfpopey: you can also order food from a restaurant.17:39
rindolfTime >>> Money.17:39
ali1234not if you're unemployed17:42
rindolfali1234: I'm happily unemployed and still thinks so.17:43
ali1234so how do you deal with having nothing to do all day and no money?17:44
rindolfali1234: if you invest a little money doing something you love and that benefits you and other people, it pays back in spades later on - "Cast your bread upon the waters".17:44
rindolfali1234: I have plenty to do.17:44
rindolfali1234: I'm not bored at all.17:44
rindolfali1234: boredom is a state of mind.17:45
rindolfali1234: i have a lot of free time, though which is good.17:45
* rindolf is going down to the con to meet some strangers - you can call me at +972-54-623237717:46
* rindolf is away.17:46
rindolfI don't usually IRC using my smartphone.17:46
ali1234anyone heard of these sportlobster clowns?18:03
ali1234they appear to be padding their social network with fake accounts using real email addresses18:03
mappsNO what is it18:08
mappssportlobster?!18:08
ali1234it's a rubbish social networking site for people who like football18:09
mappsugh18:09
mapps£3918:09
mappswoking -> stoke first class18:09
mapps:D18:09
mappsbargain!18:09
ali1234they claim to have 4 million users18:09
mappsalways book in advance:)18:09
mappstalks cheap!18:10
ali1234i don't believe it. seems to be a scam to relieve premiership footballers of their cash18:10
mappsi used to get texts to my old o2 number 'PRO GAMBLER 20/1 HORSE TODAY' etc £1.53 a min18:13
mappsand its like..seriously18:13
mappswho rings them18:13
switchtehbeaterm, help?! anyone sold on ebay before from the UK?18:26
switchtehbeatanyone? it's really important!18:33
* MartijnVdS stops the presses18:35
switchtehbeatlolwut18:37
mappsyea18:38
mappswhat switchtehbeat18:39
switchtehbeatsorted it :) thanks though! :D19:04
diddledanhttp://www.fsf.org/blogs/community/free-software-in-space-gnu-radio-and-the-isee-3-spacecraft20:04
mappshttp://www.amazon.co.uk/Nivea-For-Men-Travel-Essentials/dp/product-description/B0046SVNX0/ref=dp_proddesc_0?ie=UTF8&n=65801031&s=drugstore21:02
mappsthat says fine for hand luggage? anyone got any experience using something like that21:03
mappsrather than buying everytihng individually , the bags clear seethrough21:03
Myrttithe reviews look like it21:07
mappsyea21:09
mappsone thing i did wonder is if i could squeeze a bottle of eau de toilette in there too21:09
mappsthe guidelines for ryan air sounds like only 1 clear bag with liquids per person21:10
Myrttiyeah.21:11
Myrttinot taking any checked in?21:12
mappsnah21:12
mappsonly going for 4 nights21:12
mappsits like 70quid each way extra21:13
mappsis it 1 plastic see through bag for all airlines generally?21:13
Myrttiyes21:13
mappsoh21:13
mappswhat do you do with say lighters? not allowed a lighter in hand luggage i believe?21:13
ali1234actually all the airlines have different size rules21:14
mappsive always just left mine on a table before flying21:14
ali1234it's really annoying21:14
Myrttione one liter resealable see through bag21:14
ali1234you can fly out then on the way back "sorry that bags too big, you can buy a slightly smaller one for £5 over there"21:14
mappsheh21:14
mappslast time we flew..got to 'duty free'21:14
mappsand realised we still had hotel keys;p21:14
mappsi dropped my wallet and my key fell out my mate bursts out layghing then realised he had his too:)21:15
Myrttiali1234: which airline checks your hand luggage contents after The official one?21:15
Myrttinever heard of such thing21:15
mappshm21:15
ali1234Myrtti: okay it differs depending on the country then :)21:16
mappsmy friend got told his bag was too big for hand luggage21:16
mappsbut thts all ive seen21:16
Myrttihand.luggage size differs, sure - but the one liter resealable for liquids is constant21:16
mappsyea21:16
ali1234yeah except it isn't21:17
ali1234for example at manchester airport your clear resealable plastic bag must be no bigger than 20cmx20cm21:17
ali1234each item in the bag must be below 100ml21:18
shaunoit's the same rule, just spelt differently21:19
shaunohttps://www.gov.uk/hand-luggage-restrictions/overview   "holds no more than a litre and measures approximately 20cm x 20cm"21:20
mappswhen it says liquid 100ml21:20
mappsso eau de toillete of 50ml is fine for sure?21:20
mappscouldnt see anything specifically mentioning it just i always forget to bring any and toothpaste21:21
ali1234yep, the uk rules say "approximately"21:21
ali1234the ireland rules say "MUST"21:21
ali1234so you can fly out to ireland with a 21cm bag, but they won't let you bring it back21:21
mappsyea21:21
ali1234this actualy happened to my brother while i was right next to him21:22
shaunoI can't confess I've ever seen them measure the bag21:22
ali1234they have a standard sized bag which they compare to your bag21:22
ali1234if your bag is bigger, "sorry, go to the vending machine and pay us £5"21:23
ali1234the rules might be the same everywhere but they way they are enforced is not21:24
ali1234it also probably depends how the guards are feeling on that day21:24
Myrttithis is why I always put all liquids in The checked in21:25
shaunowell, I guess everything is up for interpretation.  eg, you enterpret 1 euro is 5 quid ;)21:26
ali1234actually it was 7 euro for the plastic bag in one of those little kinder-egg style balls21:26
ali1234"worst toy ever"21:27
shaunoouch.  they're 1eur for 2 at dublin airport21:27
ali1234someone probably kicked up a fuss. this was at dublin21:29
ali1234circa 201021:29
mappsthey were giving them out free at manc last time21:30
ali1234yep they were at heathrow when we flew out, which is why ine was the right size (he brought his own)21:31
mappsdid anyone know the answer..can u take eau de toilette / aftershave22:16
mappsi googled but nothing comes up and it doesnt say u cant..just says liquids22:16
mapps100ml or under..so i assume fine22:16
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