[00:56] <diddledan> ooh debian import freeze
[00:56]  * diddledan gets chilly
[00:56] <diddledan> not long now
[00:57] <diddledan> just over two months I guess
[01:07] <deids> hi
[01:07] <deids> hi
[01:08] <deids> i'm using debian 8 and i cant find the package dhcp3-server how come?? there is a replacement package?
[01:08] <deids> any idea?
[01:09] <stgraber> isc-dhcp-server
[01:10] <xnox> stgraber: you are, from now on, british to me =)
[01:11] <stgraber> xnox: :)
[01:19] <Laney> tally ho
[01:23] <deids> stgraber: thanks! save me!
[01:30] <deids> i get error at the boot "intel rapl no valid rapl domains"
[01:30] <deids> what make it happened?
[01:56] <daftykins> deids: this isn't debian support
[01:56] <daftykins> deids: the clue is in the channel name
[01:57] <deids> mmm but ubuntu based on debian so it's about the same..
[01:58] <deids> how i can check if the dhcp server is running?
[01:58] <deids> daftykins: ^
[02:02] <daftykins> yes i know, but why not join the debian channel :P
[05:32] <mapps> agh
[05:32] <mapps> power cable fell out again:<
[06:54] <knightwise> mornin everyone
[07:02] <diplo> Morning all
[07:02] <knightwise> mornin Diplo !
[07:28] <mapps> morningall
[07:28] <mapps> *morning all even
[07:28] <knightwise> hey mapps
[07:34] <mapps> just watched new gang related
[07:34] <mapps> great eo
[07:34] <knightwise> eo ,
[07:35] <knightwise> ?
[07:35] <mapps> ep
[07:35] <mapps> ;p
[07:35] <knightwise> ah
[07:36] <mapps> got more tv to watch
[07:36] <mapps> bt too late now
[07:36] <knightwise> we just finished downton abbey here
[07:36] <knightwise> binge watching some shows
[07:36] <mapps> never seen
[07:38] <knightwise> not bad at all.
[07:38] <knightwise> for the rest i'm hunting down some fan made star trek episodes
[07:38] <knightwise> and i've found some good stuff out there
[07:38] <knightwise> (and some horribly terrible stuff)
[07:49] <knightwise> mapps: do you ahve experience with vnc4server ?
[07:58] <mapps> used it once
[07:59] <mapps> whats up
[08:00] <knightwise> I got it running on the server , but how do you connect to it ?
[08:00] <knightwise> just plain via vnc ?
[08:00] <mapps> need a vnc client
[08:00] <mapps> yea
[08:00] <mapps> tightvncviewer
[08:00] <mapps> http://www.tightvnc.com/download.php
[08:01] <mapps> was what i used
[08:17] <SuperMatt> yo guys, in unity on 14.04, is there a way to use the classic lock screen?
[08:36] <xnox> SuperMatt: why would you want to? did you find bugs?
[08:36] <SuperMatt> colleague of mine is having some issues where sometimes he can't enter his password in to the box
[08:37] <SuperMatt> and I had something similar this morning when I woke my laptop from suspend
[08:40] <popey> wonder if it's that unity7 error where your password leaks through the screensaver?
[08:46] <brobostigon> morning boys and girls.
[08:51] <SuperMatt> popey: I genuinely don't know. All I know was mine was installed from 14.04.1 last night
[08:59] <popey> could be, saw someone ranting about it somewhere
[09:00] <popey> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/unity/+bug/1349128/comments/6
[09:01] <SuperMatt> thanks popealicious
[09:06] <dvrr> How to Recover dropped Database in mysql  ubuntu  please guide me
[09:08] <Gargoyle> dvrr: From your backup
[09:09] <popey> +1 correct answer every time
[09:10] <nigelb> Gargoyle++
[09:10] <bigcalm> Good morning peeps :)
[09:10] <Gargoyle> Morning bigcalm
[09:11] <dvrr> i don't have  backup  that is local machine
[09:11] <dvrr> Gargoyle
[09:14] <Gargoyle> dvrr: No backup = no database. You deleted it... gone... end of.
[09:16] <Gargoyle> dvrr: From the MySQL Docs: "Be *very* careful with this statement!"
[09:19] <dvrr> Gargoyle  I accidentally dropped my MySQL database  if any other way to recover  my db
[09:20] <SuperMatt> no
[09:20] <SuperMatt> you deleted it and now it is gone
[09:20] <Gargoyle> dvrr: Nope.
[09:20] <SuperMatt> maybe your hosting has some kind of backup
[09:20] <SuperMatt> who are you hosted with?
[09:21] <popey> he said it's local machine
[09:21] <SuperMatt> ah
[09:21] <SuperMatt> then no
[09:21] <bigcalm> You could send the machine to a data recovery firm and keep your fingers crossed
[09:22] <Gargoyle> dvrr: when you say "my MySQL" database. Do you mean a database you created with your own data or MySQL's internal "mysql" databse, and hence have borked your mysql install?
[09:26] <dvrr> no that is  mysql  database  only
[09:27] <Gargoyle> dvrr: Not sure what that reply means! Do you have important data you need to recover or just get mysql working again?
[09:31] <dvrr> since 2 days  user  working that database  lost 2 days data  important
[09:32] <dvrr> 100 mb data
[09:46] <Gargoyle> dvrr: That's bad luck... Well, not really luck. Lesson learned, eh.
[09:47] <SuperMatt> yeah, drop is one of the commands I use VERY carefully, I will check and double check everything
[09:47] <SuperMatt> same with rm
[09:48] <SuperMatt> I don't trust myself not to be a spazz
[09:48] <Gargoyle> SuperMatt: Snap.
[09:48] <popey> ditto
[09:48] <Gargoyle> Any data = Backup
[09:48] <Gargoyle> Important Data = Backup Twice
[09:48] <SuperMatt> I deal with a lot of customer stuff, natch, and mysqldump is done before almost everything
[10:37] <Myrtti> I have to say I was extremely positively surprised by Norwegian in comparison to Ryanair
[10:37] <Myrtti> small things make a great difference
[10:37] <jpds> Erm, you could s/Norwegian/$ANYTHING/ over Ryanair.
[10:39] <Myrtti> ok.
[10:40] <Myrtti> I won't go into details then.
[10:53] <davmor2> Myrtti: did it have seats?
[10:54] <Myrtti> Ryanair has seats so ergo so does Norwegian.
[10:56] <davmor2> Myrtti: haha it was meant as a joke :)  I've mostly only flown virgin and Lufthansa and they were both lovely.  Malta air was a little hairy hey JamesTait ?
[11:04] <Myrtti> I've flown Finnair, KLM, Delta, United, Virgin Atlantic, Ryanair and now Norwegian. I've disliked United the most.
[11:27] <Myrtti> little miss purry seems to have a different opinion on what is my job
[11:30] <davmor2> Myrtti: she's a cat ofcourse she things you're only there to love her, fuss her and feed her
[11:31] <OERIAS> Please help me!
[11:31] <Myrtti> it's funny though, she's a proper princess. No touching, no petting, no nothing unless HRH Bella, Duchess of Valkeakoski demands so.
[11:31] <Myrtti> OERIAS: have you blown a lightbulb?
[11:32] <davmor2> OERIAS: it helps if you ask something
[11:32] <OERIAS> I was banned from #ubuntu and I need someone here to ask IdleMan to please reinstate me
[11:33] <OERIAS> I am repenting for my sins as we speak
[11:33] <OERIAS> And I will behave
[11:34] <Myrtti> ach so.
[11:34] <popey> ask in #ubuntu-ops
[11:35] <OERIAS> banned there too mate
[11:35]  * popey checks the ban list
[11:35] <popey> no, you're not
[11:36] <OERIAS> Well please be kind, speak to IdelMan
[11:36] <popey> take it to #ubuntu-ops
[11:36] <OERIAS> I don't want to risk an expulsion from #ubuntu-ops
[11:36] <popey> this is not the place to sort your bans
[11:36] <popey> continuing with this doesn't help you.
[11:36] <OERIAS> Okay, thank you
[11:51] <directhex> popey: if you feed http://jenkins.mono-project.com/repo/xamarin.gpg to apt-key and "deb http://jenkins.mono-project.com/repo/debian sid main" to apt, you should be able to install mono-snapshot-XXXXXXXXX packages, which correspond to git commits. allows mono-using developers access to the latest crack, and also easy binary bisecting of bugs
[11:51] <directhex> the mono-snapshot command sets up the parallel environment
[11:58] <Gargoyle> Awwwww man!!! dvrr jinxed me! https://www.dropbox.com/s/vqy3k3d9gegnt99/Screen%20Shot%202014-08-08%20at%2012.56.35.png
[12:00] <knightwise> Gargoyle: I feel your pain
[12:01] <Gargoyle> knightwise: It's no biggie. Happens now and again. I just click "backup now", and it works.
[12:02] <Gargoyle> I never realised how much TimeMachine likes very specific versions of protocols.
[12:02] <Gargoyle> And my readyNAS is probably well overdue an update
[12:02] <knightwise> Thats why I love the ubuntu backup app. it backs up to everything ... over ssh , smb , the whole shbang
[12:04] <Gargoyle> Yeah. I don't know why Apple didn't just implement it in the sense of "just point me to some other location - by whatever means you like"
[12:09] <popey> yeah
[12:09] <popey> that annoys me too
[12:10] <Gargoyle> You can do that from the command line. But it's a right faff!
[12:17] <knightwise> you mean an Rsync
[13:17] <diddledan> morning
[15:04] <bigcalm> This Friday is taking a long time to finish
[15:16] <diplo> Sure is bigcalm !
[15:16] <diplo> And I've only been back since yesterday :/
[15:54] <diddledan> o_O so I've just got a new vps - it's running 12.04.5 so I figured I'd upgrade to 14.04 but do-release-upgrade doesn't seem to want to do it
[15:56] <diddledan> it seems do-release-upgrade does suggest 14.04 when you ask it to upgrade to a development release
[16:51] <mapps> good afternoon
[17:22] <rindolf> Cross posting from #gllug: Hi all. If anyone wants to meet me ( http://www.shlomifish.org/ ) - I'm in Heathrow now for this con - https://nineworlds.co.uk/ - it's great too BTW.
[17:32] <popey> hello Shlomi
[17:34] <rindolf> popey: meow.
[17:34] <popey> I'd never heard of nineworlds
[17:35] <rindolf> popey: now you did.
[17:35] <rindolf> popey: my friend told me about it.
[17:35] <popey> well indeed
[17:35] <rindolf> popey: we can meet in the hotel.
[17:35] <rindolf> popey: it's a bit of a grassroots con, with many people who are disabled, LGBT/etc.
[17:35] <popey> Sadly not, I won't be able to come to it this time.
[17:36] <popey> cool.
[17:36] <rindolf> popey: ah, OK.
[17:36] <rindolf> popey: are you too busy?
[17:36] <popey> need to spend time with the family
[17:36] <rindolf> popey: ah.
[17:36] <rindolf> popey: how old are your children?
[17:36] <popey> 7 & 10
[17:36] <rindolf> popey: ah, so quite old.
[17:37] <popey> yeah. one just had an operation so is recovering
[17:37] <rindolf> popey: I'd love to meet them too.
[17:37] <popey> so this weekend is a special blend of caring for one while not leaving the other one out
[17:37] <rindolf> popey: ah, I see. Good luck to him.
[17:37] <rindolf> popey: ah.
[17:38] <rindolf> popey: I think it's important to encourage people like that to not be needy.
[17:38] <popey> heh
[17:38] <rindolf> popey: and children should not be pushed into doing things they don't want to do.
[17:38] <rindolf> popey: there's always time to change.
[17:38] <popey> Someone very incosiderate is cooking bbq near me, I can smell it and am now very hungry, and have to go cook..
[17:39] <popey> another time rindolf ☻
[17:39] <rindolf> popey: bye ,, bon appetit.
[17:39] <rindolf> popey: you can also order food from a restaurant.
[17:39] <rindolf> Time >>> Money.
[17:42] <ali1234> not if you're unemployed
[17:43] <rindolf> ali1234: I'm happily unemployed and still thinks so.
[17:44] <ali1234> so how do you deal with having nothing to do all day and no money?
[17:44] <rindolf> ali1234: if you invest a little money doing something you love and that benefits you and other people, it pays back in spades later on - "Cast your bread upon the waters".
[17:44] <rindolf> ali1234: I have plenty to do.
[17:44] <rindolf> ali1234: I'm not bored at all.
[17:45] <rindolf> ali1234: boredom is a state of mind.
[17:45] <rindolf> ali1234: i have a lot of free time, though which is good.
[17:46]  * rindolf is going down to the con to meet some strangers - you can call me at +972-54-6232377
[17:46]  * rindolf is away.
[17:46] <rindolf> I don't usually IRC using my smartphone.
[18:03] <ali1234> anyone heard of these sportlobster clowns?
[18:03] <ali1234> they appear to be padding their social network with fake accounts using real email addresses
[18:08] <mapps> NO what is it
[18:08] <mapps> sportlobster?!
[18:09] <ali1234> it's a rubbish social networking site for people who like football
[18:09] <mapps> ugh
[18:09] <mapps> £39
[18:09] <mapps> woking -> stoke first class
[18:09] <mapps> :D
[18:09] <mapps> bargain!
[18:09] <ali1234> they claim to have 4 million users
[18:09] <mapps> always book in advance:)
[18:10] <mapps> talks cheap!
[18:10] <ali1234> i don't believe it. seems to be a scam to relieve premiership footballers of their cash
[18:13] <mapps> i used to get texts to my old o2 number 'PRO GAMBLER 20/1 HORSE TODAY' etc £1.53 a min
[18:13] <mapps> and its like..seriously
[18:13] <mapps> who rings them
[18:26] <switchtehbeat> erm, help?! anyone sold on ebay before from the UK?
[18:33] <switchtehbeat> anyone? it's really important!
[18:35]  * MartijnVdS stops the presses
[18:37] <switchtehbeat> lolwut
[18:38] <mapps> yea
[18:39] <mapps> what switchtehbeat
[19:04] <switchtehbeat> sorted it :) thanks though! :D
[20:04] <diddledan> http://www.fsf.org/blogs/community/free-software-in-space-gnu-radio-and-the-isee-3-spacecraft
[21:02] <mapps> http://www.amazon.co.uk/Nivea-For-Men-Travel-Essentials/dp/product-description/B0046SVNX0/ref=dp_proddesc_0?ie=UTF8&n=65801031&s=drugstore
[21:03] <mapps> that says fine for hand luggage? anyone got any experience using something like that
[21:03] <mapps> rather than buying everytihng individually , the bags clear seethrough
[21:07] <Myrtti> the reviews look like it
[21:09] <mapps> yea
[21:09] <mapps> one thing i did wonder is if i could squeeze a bottle of eau de toilette in there too
[21:10] <mapps> the guidelines for ryan air sounds like only 1 clear bag with liquids per person
[21:11] <Myrtti> yeah.
[21:12] <Myrtti> not taking any checked in?
[21:12] <mapps> nah
[21:12] <mapps> only going for 4 nights
[21:13] <mapps> its like 70quid each way extra
[21:13] <mapps> is it 1 plastic see through bag for all airlines generally?
[21:13] <Myrtti> yes
[21:13] <mapps> oh
[21:13] <mapps> what do you do with say lighters? not allowed a lighter in hand luggage i believe?
[21:14] <ali1234> actually all the airlines have different size rules
[21:14] <mapps> ive always just left mine on a table before flying
[21:14] <ali1234> it's really annoying
[21:14] <Myrtti> one one liter resealable see through bag
[21:14] <ali1234> you can fly out then on the way back "sorry that bags too big, you can buy a slightly smaller one for £5 over there"
[21:14] <mapps> heh
[21:14] <mapps> last time we flew..got to 'duty free'
[21:14] <mapps> and realised we still had hotel keys;p
[21:15] <mapps> i dropped my wallet and my key fell out my mate bursts out layghing then realised he had his too:)
[21:15] <Myrtti> ali1234: which airline checks your hand luggage contents after The official one?
[21:15] <Myrtti> never heard of such thing
[21:15] <mapps> hm
[21:16] <ali1234> Myrtti: okay it differs depending on the country then :)
[21:16] <mapps> my friend got told his bag was too big for hand luggage
[21:16] <mapps> but thts all ive seen
[21:16] <Myrtti> hand.luggage size differs, sure - but the one liter resealable for liquids is constant
[21:16] <mapps> yea
[21:17] <ali1234> yeah except it isn't
[21:17] <ali1234> for example at manchester airport your clear resealable plastic bag must be no bigger than 20cmx20cm
[21:18] <ali1234> each item in the bag must be below 100ml
[21:19] <shauno> it's the same rule, just spelt differently
[21:20] <shauno> https://www.gov.uk/hand-luggage-restrictions/overview   "holds no more than a litre and measures approximately 20cm x 20cm"
[21:20] <mapps> when it says liquid 100ml
[21:20] <mapps> so eau de toillete of 50ml is fine for sure?
[21:21] <mapps> couldnt see anything specifically mentioning it just i always forget to bring any and toothpaste
[21:21] <ali1234> yep, the uk rules say "approximately"
[21:21] <ali1234> the ireland rules say "MUST"
[21:21] <ali1234> so you can fly out to ireland with a 21cm bag, but they won't let you bring it back
[21:21] <mapps> yea
[21:22] <ali1234> this actualy happened to my brother while i was right next to him
[21:22] <shauno> I can't confess I've ever seen them measure the bag
[21:22] <ali1234> they have a standard sized bag which they compare to your bag
[21:23] <ali1234> if your bag is bigger, "sorry, go to the vending machine and pay us £5"
[21:24] <ali1234> the rules might be the same everywhere but they way they are enforced is not
[21:24] <ali1234> it also probably depends how the guards are feeling on that day
[21:25] <Myrtti> this is why I always put all liquids in The checked in
[21:26] <shauno> well, I guess everything is up for interpretation.  eg, you enterpret 1 euro is 5 quid ;)
[21:26] <ali1234> actually it was 7 euro for the plastic bag in one of those little kinder-egg style balls
[21:27] <ali1234> "worst toy ever"
[21:27] <shauno> ouch.  they're 1eur for 2 at dublin airport
[21:29] <ali1234> someone probably kicked up a fuss. this was at dublin
[21:29] <ali1234> circa 2010
[21:30] <mapps> they were giving them out free at manc last time
[21:31] <ali1234> yep they were at heathrow when we flew out, which is why ine was the right size (he brought his own)
[22:16] <mapps> did anyone know the answer..can u take eau de toilette / aftershave
[22:16] <mapps> i googled but nothing comes up and it doesnt say u cant..just says liquids
[22:16] <mapps> 100ml or under..so i assume fine