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loahello.00:00
loai like game dota 2, and i see that it loads little slow, i want speed up it a bit. how i can watch what is a bottleneck when it is loading?00:00
laughingtiger!emergency00:00
loafor example if it io hungry00:01
loai am thinking about buying ssd00:01
laughingtiger!bazhang00:01
Brysonso in a directory of, say, a million files, rm -f dir/* fails. find with --delete works though. What is find doing differently when looking at the files in the directory?00:03
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TJ-Bryson: the shell tries to expand the "dir/*" into a list containing every file... the command line can't take that! find -delete operates on 1 file at a time00:06
loacan somebody ban nevermoreraven ?00:07
chacaneBryson: the 'xargs' command is designed to work on large argument lists too, I believe00:07
phunyguyloa: please join #ubuntu-ops to discuss00:07
loaphunyguy, https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/25725476/screenshot-2014.08.08-04%3A08%3A14.png00:08
BrysonTJ-: I had somebody one tell me some one-liner answer to this question ni the past, something about find using inodes for looking at files so the number of them is not relevant? does that sound right? I may be remembering incorrectly. I don't remember enough of what he said to do effective googling00:08
phunyguyloa: why can't you listen?00:08
ObrienDaveloa, put them on your ignore list. done.00:10
loadone.00:10
loabut i think he is spamming not only to me.00:10
loanevermind.00:10
phunyguyloa: if it was not in this channel, we can't do much about it00:10
phunyguyyou wll have to take that up in #freenode00:10
phunyguybut next time, keep in mind, the ops hang out in #ubuntu-ops00:11
TJ-Bryson: No... its much more simple. "*" is the shell's Exansion operator which matches all entries. It builds a list of names generated by that expansion. With 1 million files in a directory the list will be too large to pass on the comman-line to a process00:11
loaphunyguy, it was in this channel and i don't know him.00:12
Brysonvery well. thanks TJ-00:12
phunyguyloa: just keep in mind for the future.  We don't need vulgar private messages repeated in the channel.00:12
TJ-my typing is getting terrible... I must have lost a finger00:12
loaphunyguy, sorry.00:12
phunyguyno worries :)00:13
jak2000hi all how to install skype: sudo apt-get install skype not work00:13
bazhangjak2000, enable partner repos00:15
Bashing-omjak2000: Release 14.04 : Filename: pool/partner/s/skype/skype_4.3.0.37-0ubuntu0.12.04.1_amd64.deb . It is there. What release are you running ? .00:15
mikeg3Sorry for the delay in getting back to you…changed my password and rebooted…problem still exists.  Under my username it says "Login" if I click it immediately logs me in.00:18
delinquentmehaving some serious difficulty getting a printf statement to give me a tab https://gist.github.com/carlcrott/c5e28bebdfd9dc2db25500:19
jak2000Bashing-om i am runing 14.04 ubuntu version(64bits)00:21
TJ-delinquentme: lose the echo and ``s, just use " printf "\t- %s-%02d"  ...  "00:21
jak2000bazhang how to enable partner repos?00:22
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delinquentmeTJ-, awesome!!00:23
mikeg3How can I troubleshoot Ubuntu 14.04 not requiring a password when I log in?  Even though I want to type one.  Autologin is off.  I tried changing my password, did not help00:23
loahow i can switch quickly locale in terminal?00:24
loai remeber that it is something like LC_ALL=C00:25
TeraJLanyone have silverlight working in any way or form that can test this site out? http://irisonline.pt/ evrything i've tried i get a black screen after the loading, thanks (tried with moonlight and wine), it is not ubuntu, but if it runs on ubuntu i'll really have to switch to it00:25
TeraJL(this website is trustfull is from a portuguese cable company to watch tv online, you can check before clicking)00:25
Jeffrey_floa: you want console or terminal?00:29
Jeffrey_floa: CTL-ALT-F1 though F600:30
loaJeffrey_f, console00:31
loai done it00:31
loaby LANG=C00:31
c0mpub0mbquestion, how do I go about fixing this issue? https://gist.github.com/robertkraig/867bd912e7d5a7cb8bee00:39
c0mpub0mbthat system runs raring00:39
c0mpub0mbCodename:raring00:40
zykotick9!raring | c0mpub0mb00:41
ubottuc0mpub0mb: Ubuntu 13.04 (Raring Ringtail) was the 18th release of Ubuntu. Support ended on January 27, 2014. See !eol, !upgrade and http://ubottu.com/y/raring00:41
OerHeksc0mpub0mb, upgrade :-)00:41
c0mpub0mbOerHeks: I'm affraid, this machine it's kind of important, it's running phabricator instance.00:42
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d4rks1d3rIm bumping my problem, getting really frustrated here: fresh Ubuntu 14.04 install and during the boot process, the screen goes blank (no video input). However, the machine works perfectly through ssh00:43
triplcHi all, how to disable "Scanning for Btrfs filesystems..." to get back 15seconds boot time? I am using 14.04. I remember that in 12.04 it does not do that. I does use btrfs filesystem in both 12.04 and 14.04; but 12.04 does not need to scan for btrfs.00:44
d4rks1d3rany ideas? even crazy ones :)00:45
c0mpub0mbOerHeks: right now I can't even get sudo apt-get install update-manager-core00:45
c0mpub0mbbecause apt-get update doesn't work w/ any of these repos.00:45
Tracebell2000Hey! I'm rather new to ubuntu and I'm trying to setup rutorrent on Ubuntu server 14.04.1, rutorrent is not asking for a password, I read that the way to fix this is to add AllowOverride AuthConfig to the apache2.conf, but when I do that I get "The server encountered an internal error or misconfiguration and was unable to complete your request." Can anyone help me out?00:45
Bashing-omd4rks1d3r: Indicative of a graphics driver issue // Nvidia , ATI  ? Try booting with the boot parameter " nomodeset ".00:47
d4rks1d3rBashing-om: videocard: Intel Corporation System Controller Hub (SCH Poulsbo) Graphics Controller (rev 07), tried nomodeset00:48
d4rks1d3rBashing-om: also it's a server so no X installed, just textmode00:49
nishihow to check my wireless driver is working properly00:49
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Bashing-omd4rks1d3r: That is a tough issue with that card. See: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsVideoCardsPoulsbo .00:51
nishiOur college wifi block the fb and how to  access fb00:53
BustinHey there, newish to linux, fresh install of Xubuntu 14.04 LTS. I can't seem to pair my bluetooth with Blueman. Is there known bugs / issues with Ubuntu and bluetooth devices? The device I'm trying to pair, is a Bluetooth Apple Keyboard.00:57
alexanderhello00:59
alexanderi'm looking for some support on ubuntu01:00
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d4rks1d3rBashing-om: tried the solution in the link, it changed the resolution during booting but still went blank01:01
Bashing-omd4rks1d3r: Driver loaded ? -> lsmod | grep gma <- // what results ?01:03
d4rks1d3rBashing-om: http://paste.ubuntu.com/7984376/01:04
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BustinHey there, newish to linux, fresh install of Xubuntu 14.04 LTS. I can't seem to pair my bluetooth with Blueman. Is there known bugs / issues with Ubuntu and bluetooth devices? The device I'm trying to pair, is a Bluetooth Apple Keyboard.01:07
gr33n7007hBustin first of all sudo apt-get install bluez-compat01:10
ObrienDaveBustin, second, does your system actually have bluetooth? most don't01:11
BustinObrienDave: yes, it does.01:11
BustinObrienDave: my magic mouse (apple bluetooth mouse) pairs up.01:11
Bustinthe keyboard doesn't.01:11
Bustingr33n7007h: bluez-compat ? I'll give that a shot01:12
BustinBlueman seems to crash, quite often01:12
Bustingr33n7007h: after installing that, what is the next step01:14
raypulverso I swapped out hard drives temporarily to attempt some data recovery01:14
raypulverand now the sound doesnt work :/01:14
raypulveris this odd?01:15
gr33n7007hBustin, rfcomm connect /dev/rfcomm0 Apple Keyboard Mac address01:16
skypcehey guys, how can i boot powerbook g4 from usb?01:16
gr33n7007hBustin, you can find that with hcitool scan01:17
chriyshey guys how can look inside of the logs of apache01:18
gr33n7007hBustin, you installed bluez?01:19
Bustingr33n7007h: yes01:19
gr33n7007hBustin, do you know your apple keyboard mac address01:19
Bustingr33n7007h: yes, I have it01:20
gr33n7007hBustin, right, now type: rfcomm connect /dev/rfcomm0 XX:XX:XX:XX:XX:XX <=# XX meaning your mac address of keyboard01:21
Bustingr33n7007h: what's the <=#, getting a "no such file or directory"01:22
ObrienDavenot that part ;P01:22
ObrienDaverfcomm connect /dev/rfcomm0 XX:XX:XX:XX:XX:XX01:22
gr33n7007hBustin, type this: "sudo rfcomm connect /dev/rfcomm0 XX:XX:XX:XX:XX:XX" without the quotes replace XX with keyboard MAC address01:23
Bustingr33n7007h: Can't connect RFCOMM socket: Host is down01:24
gr33n7007hBustin, Is your bluetooth on the keyboard on?01:25
crocketCan I trust UbuntuUpdates.org repository?01:26
ObrienDavecrocket, yes, i use them all of the time01:28
ObrienDaveyou may not trust me ;P01:29
Vampire-Billcroket: what would make you think that you could not trust them01:29
Vampire-Billcrocket: what would make you think that you could not trust them01:29
crocketVampire-Bill, I just found it today.01:29
gr33n7007hBustin, you still there?01:29
crocketSo, I can't automatically trust it.01:29
crocketI just need to inspect it before I trust it.01:29
Bustingr33n7007h: I am, funny enough, no fn + bluetooth shortcut01:30
Bustinand no switch01:30
BustinI assumed it was always on, considering I paired my bluetooth mouse, without having to touch anything01:30
ObrienDaveBustin, is there a battery in the keyboard?01:30
gr33n7007hIs your bluetooth mouseworking now?01:30
gr33n7007hBustin, turn the bluetooth on the keyboard on01:31
BustinObrienDave: keyboard is on, gr33n7007h it's on, green light is flashing, meaning it's searching.01:32
gr33n7007hBustin, let's try another way then01:32
ObrienDavecrocket, afaik, that is an official Ubuntu website01:32
crocketObrienDave, How can I prove it?01:32
gr33n7007hBustin, type: sudo hidd --connect XX:XX:XX:XX:XX:XX01:33
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43UAAPE21What!!!!!!!01:33
Bustingr33n7007h: Can't get device information: Host is down01:33
ObrienDavecrocket, i was wrong, http://www.ubuntuupdates.org/about01:34
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ObrienDavei trust it01:34
gr33n7007hBustin, type: hciconfig -a hci001:34
optrustyWelcome to Ubuntu Customization Kit 2.4.7! (Running on Ubuntu 14.04, 3.13.0-21-generic x86_64)01:34
Bustinwhen using blueman, it finds the devices, but clicking pair I get "Authentication Cancelled" instantly01:34
ObrienDavecrocket, many others here trust it01:35
gr33n7007hBustin, and does it say its UP RUNNING01:35
optrustyI am using ubuntu dev01:35
crocketObrienDave, well... trust01:35
BustinUP RUNNING PSCAN gr33n7007h01:35
gr33n7007hBustin, pastebin these commands: "sudo hciconfig -a hci0", "sudo hcitool scan --class"01:36
ObrienDavecrocket, any particular PPA that has you concerned?01:37
crocketObrienDave, tor01:37
ObrienDavesafe01:37
crocketObrienDave, UbuntuUpdates.org has the latest stable version of tor.01:37
ObrienDavei use that one01:38
crocketObrienDave, I'm using tor from ubuntu official repository right now.01:38
ObrienDavei use that tor repository. and when appropriate, T.A.I.L.S01:39
crockettails01:39
ObrienDavelook it up ;)01:39
ObrienDavehttps://tails.boum.org/01:40
Bustingr33n7007h: http://pastebin.com/zCrqK16r01:40
gr33n7007hBustin, thank you01:40
Bustingr33n7007h: Can't create HID control channel: Operation now in progress01:41
crocketObrienDave, I've set up an anonymous firefox profile with FreeSpeechMe and tor.01:41
crocketIn the profile, no history is recorded.01:41
ObrienDavetails is self contained01:41
crocketObrienDave, How can you be sure?01:41
crocketObrienDave, Is it isolated?01:41
gr33n7007hBustin, type: sudo service bluetooth restart01:42
Bustingr33n7007h: using the other method, Can't connect RFCOMM socket: Connection refused01:42
ObrienDavecrocket, NOTHING is 100% secure and safe. you can only minimize your exposure01:42
gr33n7007hBustin, type: sudo service bluetooth restart01:42
Bustingr33n7007h: Can't get device information: Host is down - when trying sudo hidd --connect01:43
ObrienDavecrocket, tails is a live system you install to a USB stick. as isolated as you can get i would think01:43
crocketObrienDave, Within an isolated proxy, you can be sure that you're routed via tor.01:44
gr33n7007hBustin, type: sudo service bluetooth restart01:44
gr33n7007hfirst01:44
Bustingr33n7007h: I did01:44
crocketObrienDave, Does tails run tor on itself?01:44
gr33n7007hBustin, right wait don't type anything till I tell you01:44
ObrienDaveyes01:44
Bustingr33n7007h: bluetooth start/running, process 2714501:44
crocketObrienDave, I'm not sure how it isolates tor from the clearnet.01:44
ObrienDavego check it out01:44
gr33n7007hBustin, type: hciconfig hci0 piscan01:45
Bustingr33n7007h: done01:45
fookitallHello01:45
Bustingr33n7007h: do'h, daughter, brb.01:46
gr33n7007hBustin, ok01:46
andlabsHi. I'd like to edit a pre-existing ISO to add a single ifle. This is a bootable ISO. What'st he best way to do so with Linux? Thanks.01:52
stonnerandlabs: mount iso with read/write permissions01:53
stonnerandlabs: put the file01:53
stonnerandlabs:  umount the iso01:53
andlabsthanks01:53
andlabsstonner: I get mount: block device /tmp/file.iso is write-protected, mounting read-only01:57
andlabsthe file is rw-rw-rw-01:57
ubuntuuser1357linux seems to not find my sound card yet it's part of my intel motherboard.  how can I find my sound card?01:58
stonnerandlabs:  create a directory on your home folder, ex: /home/username/mount_dir02:00
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gr33n7007hubuntuuser1357, sudo aplay -l02:01
jl420is there anyone on here who can help me with dvd playback issues. I can post the results when i try to run from terminal wiht mplayer. Im kinda new to this but the results def dont look right i just dont know exactly what to do from here02:02
stonnerandlabs: run the command with root privilege: mount -o rw,loop pathtotheiso mount_dir02:02
stonnerandlabs: try this02:03
ashwin18Hey guys, I need some help. I'm currently in the live bootable environment on ubuntu 14.04 64 bit, I need to MOVE a folder named .foldername located in /home/myname/ to my usb hard drive, but I keep getting permission errors. the current owner is apparantely "user #1000", 'id' in the terminal gives "uid=0(root) gid=0(root) groups=0(root)"02:04
ashwin18Some more info: the folder I want to move is located on my older ubuntu installation02:05
ashwin18And I'm a linux newbie02:05
andlabsstonner: that's what I did02:06
andlabswith sudo yes02:06
LostNvajl320: whats the playback issue? no playback at all?02:06
LostNvajl420*:02:07
jl420any help would be appreciated. I installed ubuntu 14.04 about 2 weeks ago. Ive been trying to enable dvd playback. there all store bought movies im trying to use....Ive installed restricted extras package, libdvdread4, libdvdnav4, and the libdvcss and still i have no luck. Ubuntu see the drive i can even eject it using the terminal. automount only works with one dvd02:07
LostNvamight have to set the region02:08
jl420Its weird this one movie it picks up reads and plays but no others. I set the region to region code 102:08
ObrienDaveashwin18, .foldername is owned by root. you have to go through sudo, change permissions, or the root terminal to move that folder02:08
jl420LostNva02:08
stonnerandlabs: is the iso use the filesystem iso9660?02:08
andlabswhat'st he best way to find out02:08
ashwin18ObrienDave: althoug I understood what you said I'm new at this and googled solutions haven't really worked, can you walk me through this please?02:09
ObrienDavestonner, iso9660 defined CD recording, not the ISO file02:09
ashwin18I can navigate into the /usr/myname folder in terminal02:09
LostNvajl420: do the movies all play in another player?02:10
stonnerObrienDave: the type of the iso should be according to isso966002:10
ObrienDaveashwin18, yes, because you have read permissions for that folder, not write permissions02:10
LostNvajl420: all i can tell  you if one plays fine and the others dont, all I can think of is region code.02:11
jl420anyone have any ideas. It automounts and plays this one stupid movie called "setup" with 50 cent lol but no other movie...Could it be in some weird way cause that movies named "setup"???02:11
ashwin18ObrienDave: No I meant I can go as far as navigating to teh correct folder in terminal but I'll need someone to walk me through02:11
Beldarjl420, Have you tried multiple players vlc is a good one to try.02:11
andlabsObrienDave: actually iso9660 does define a filesystem structure for data discs, but it is not the only possible filesystem structure02:11
ObrienDaveashwin18, read for yourself http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ISO_966002:12
ashwin18I tried starting nautilus using sudo but that doesnt work either, going to that folder's properties throws up a real quick error message about the current user being user 1000 before nautilus crashes02:12
ashwin18why am I reading about the ISO container format?02:12
ObrienDaveandlabs, really? naw, seriously? dang ;P02:12
gremlynso anyone have an idea as to why the same hardware on 12.04 has drastically slower download speeds through Sabnzbd+ when running 14.04?02:12
jl420LostNva Its weird i mean like 20 other movies all that work in other players. Its so weird this one movie works. Yes ive tries vlc while am still trying lol....I ran it in mplayer via terminal i can show u the results02:12
hammetti need help with iso mount n kdesudo02:13
gremlyngotta be some sort of resource settings... I tried everything through the sab settings to make it better to no avail, so I figure maybe Ubuntu is tying up resources differently?02:13
ashwin18ObrienDave:  could you please walk me through this? The folder is like 200 kb and all I need to do is get it on my  portable hard drive then repartition and reformat the internal one02:13
LostNvajl420: like Beldar said, try other players, and see if you get same results on same computer, vlc, smplayer, mplayer etc.02:14
ObrienDaveashwin18, my apologies, sent link to the wrong person02:14
jl420Ive been trying to solve this issue for 5 days now...I just dont get why this one movie02:15
ashwin18ObrienDave:  no problem at all02:15
jl420* works.02:15
ashwin18OMG I think I did it02:15
ashwin18I started an instance of nautilus using sudo, then navigated to the folder, right click > copy, then used the SAME INSTANCE of nautilus to navigate to my destination and 'paste'02:16
jl420Im in Canada so region code 1 is what i would want rght02:16
ashwin18I was directly using 'paste' on the desktop before, that's why it didnt take it02:16
ObrienDaveashwin18, we love self helpers :D \o/02:16
ashwin18And just checked the permissions, it says 'me' awesome!02:16
ashwin18ObrienDave: haha, I learn something new everyday with nux02:17
ObrienDaveashwin18, so does everyone here :))02:17
LostNvajl420: im not really sure if you can, but can you try different region code, where did the movies come from.02:17
ashwin18:P02:17
stonnerandlabs: try this $sudo mount -o loop,unhide,rw -t iso9660 yourimage.iso /mnt/iso/02:18
andlabssitll nope02:18
ashwin18Gotta go, I have a hot date with my PC, reformat and everything ;)02:18
andlabsstonner: if it helps, this ISO is bootable02:19
andlabs(need to change boot configuration, but that's on the main data track/ISO section)02:19
jl420They're all popular movies bought here in Canada and made in America. Its not hte discs its somethin with ubuntu. I just switched to ubuntu 14.04 roughly 2 weeks ago. (I really am enjoying it) other than this problem. But on windows xp I had no problems with watching these movies on this system02:20
LostNvajl420: yeah thats an odd problem, need to figure out whats different about the one movie that plays.02:21
LostNvajl420: maybe the one movie isnt in dvd format.02:21
jl420LostNva Do u think it could possibly be the name of the movie itself "setup"???02:22
LostNvajl420: no, are you sure its a dvd?02:22
dcwilliams_VAHas anyone gotten webex working with 14.04?02:22
jl420Yes theyre all store bought movies. I dunno its so weird02:23
jl420the stuff that shows up in mplayer when i run a dvd through terminal is weird02:23
LostNvajl420: put the setup move and one other movie in and right click, choose properties, see whats different if possible.02:24
jl420I cant because only the setup movie will show up at the side. No other movie mounts.02:25
Beldardcwilliams_VA, Java issue?02:25
jl420I guess i shoulda been more clear about my problem....Only that one movie even mounts02:25
LostNvajl420: yeah makes sense, I've had dvd issues, it was all or nothing though. Thats odd.02:26
dcwilliams_VAlooks like it.02:26
Beldardcwilliams_VA, http://askubuntu.com/questions/459838/webex-is-not-working-in-ubuntu-14-04-please-help02:26
dcwilliams_VAThanks!02:26
ubuntuuser1357gr33n7007h: 'sudo aplay -l'  gives "aplay: device_list:252: no soundcards found..."02:26
LostNvajl420: all I could suggest is try reinstall the goodies, sudo apt-get install libdvdcss libdvdread4 libdvdnav402:27
Beldardcwilliams_VA, took less than a minute to find may work several options.02:27
jl420LostNva do u think I should un-install all that stuff first???02:27
LostNvajl420, yeah wouldn't hurt.02:28
gr33n7007hubuntuuser1357, pastebin this "find /lib/modules/`uname -r` | grep snd"02:28
hammetthi everybody, i need some help with KDESUDO.... I don't know how to use that shell ext. But i really have a problem with the script mount -o loop -t iso9660 file.iso /media/iso02:29
jl420Ok I have tried this before but Im gonna give it all another go. If that doesnt work do u know where i might be able to find some more help on the issue. LostNva02:29
LostNvagood luck02:30
LostNvajl420: here just not me lol.02:30
jl420LostNva how do I get people to help lol?02:31
LostNvaBeldar is the man, hint hint02:31
andlabsso is there a way I can forcibly mount this a swritable02:32
Beldarone question does not make any knowledge02:32
jl420LostNva thank u I dont know how to personally ask him a question but ill try and figure it out... Thank u so much for your help and pointing me in the right direction02:33
LostNvanp02:33
stonnerandlabs: in osx exist a software called unarchiver02:33
stonnerandlabs: but in linux i think isomkfs cal help you02:33
jl420Beldar I can only get one store bought dvd to mount even though all the dvds are the same other than name02:34
Beldarjl420, This an external reader?02:34
jl420No its an internal02:34
jl420Beldar its internal02:35
Beldarjl420, Can you confirm it works on more than one dvd at all?02:35
jl420Beldar I put this movie in it mounts and plays any other movie i put in doesnt even mount.02:36
jl420Beldar the movies all work on other players and worked on this one until i installed ubuntu02:36
stonnerandlabs: you can mount as red permissions, then copy all the content to a directory, make the changes and create a new iso02:37
jl420Beldar Its a dell latitude d610 lap top that had windows xp if that helps02:37
Beldarjl420, I would rule out the player itself, not really an area I know well, myself I'm careful to confirm from the bottom up. There are newer dvd encryption setups that can cause this.02:38
stonnerandlabs: dont forget to use the option: unhide02:38
inthedryerWho here despises UEFI?02:39
zykotick9jl420: typically you don't mount dvds, you just play them...02:39
wolfspylol02:39
wolfspylololool02:39
Beldarinthedryer, Not really a support issue, state the issue you need help with to the channel.02:39
jl420Beldar so u think this is an encryption issue even tho i installed everything necceasary02:39
Beldarjl420, I'm guessing to be honest, not my at my pay scale. ;)02:40
jl420zykotick9 I just mean it doesnt even auto show when i put a dvd in it doesnt ask me what to do except this one movie lol02:40
jl420Beldar I see that makes sense. I thought there was no pay scale with open source free os02:41
jl420lol02:41
zykotick9jl420: if you happen to have mplayer installed, try "mplayer dvd://1" other then that, i got nothin' good luck.02:41
jl420Beldar do u know anyone else who might be able to help02:42
andlabsstonner: that works, but this is a bootable ISO02:42
Beldarjl420, It's code for "I have no idea". ;)02:42
andlabsso an in place editw ould be better02:42
jl420zykotick ran it with mplayer like that. If i show u the results can u interpret them??02:42
zykotick9!tab | jl42002:43
ubottujl420: You can use your <tab> key for autocompletion of nicknames in IRC, as well as for completion of filenames and programs on the command line.02:43
stonnerandlabs: it works. i have created a osx bootable iso doing this, no problem02:43
zykotick9jl420: can you paste it to paste.ubuntu.com?02:43
Beldarjl420, checking the web though with any movie and 14.04 and linux would be another way I would look, if it is an issues other have had it should be there, askubuntu is a good site to check with the right search terms02:43
jl420Beldar I know i was jk.... Ive been trying to figure this out for awhile ive learned alot about ubuntu and terminal commands thanx to this problem i just wish i could figure it out02:43
inthedryerI'm trying to install Kubuntu 14 on a GX70 laptop (technically a spinoff, but same motherboard). It uses an AMD A10 2.5Ghz, and a radeon 8970M. After much fuss I finally can get it to read the live USB without cutting off Windows, but upon proceeding past GRUB, the GUI dies and the screen goes blank.02:44
jl420zykotick9 i will give it a shot02:44
Beldar!nomodeset | inthedryer one option to try02:44
ubottuinthedryer one option to try: A common kernel (boot)parameter is nomodeset, which is needed for some graphic cards that otherwise boot into a black screen or show corrupted splash screen. See http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1613132 on how to use this parameter02:44
LostNvajl420: also read this http://www.deskshare.com/Resources/articles/video-dvd-formats.aspx02:45
jl420ok i just pasted it there zykotick902:48
zykotick9jl420: what's the link?02:48
inthedryerThanks for the tip, I shall report back results as soon as I finish configuring the clean Win 8 install, and try the live USB again.02:49
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ObrienDavelink? what link?02:49
amrooryIam trying to install PXEboot to use it to deploy UBUNTU images through the netwrok using this guide https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PXEInstallMultiDistro,,, but it's not working with recent version of software ... So any one can help me ... Thank you in advance02:49
jl420zykotick9 http://paste.ubuntu.com/7984984/02:49
ubuntuuser1357gr33n7007h:  http://pastebin.com/rrMBCj3k  bunches of sound modules....02:50
zykotick9jl420: you don't have a /dev/dvd are you SURE it's a dvd drive?02:50
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zykotick9jl420: "ls /dev/dv*" does it return anything?  maybe a dvd2 or something?02:51
jl420that was with no dvd inserted... this is with the dvd inserted zykotick9 http://paste.ubuntu.com/7985021/02:52
gr33n7007hubuntuuser1357, pastebin "lspci -v | grep -A7 -i "audio""02:53
inthedryerHow's the stability of VLC 64-bit?02:53
zykotick9jl420: it's not missing a disc, it's missing the drive!02:53
zykotick9jl420: A) do you have a /dev/sr0?  B) does the drive have a DVD logo on it?02:54
ObrienDavezykotick9, mine gives me the same error with no disk in02:54
jl420O really ok. I can see the drive in the disk manager02:55
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jl420sorry "disks' in ubuntu shows the drive as being ther. Its like its not pointed to it it sr0 i know tha02:56
jl420zykotick902:56
zykotick9ObrienDave: if you have a dvd drive, there should be a /dev/dvd with or without a disc.02:56
zykotick9jl420: sorry, i guess i can't help you... best of luck.02:57
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ubuntuuser1357gr33n7007h: no output02:57
jl420zykotick so do u know why the drive shows up in the disks application but not in the terminal?02:58
ObrienDavezykotick9, xubuntu, no disk, no /dev/dvd on my system02:58
zykotick9ObrienDave: it's not on jl420 (at least according to mplayer)02:59
jl420zykotick9 could it be that its not being pointed to the right spot03:00
blueprintzzzanyone know any good proxies for xchat on ubuntu?03:00
gr33n7007hubuntuuser1357, sounds like a broken soundcard? was it working before?03:00
aliteralmindQuestion: I'm following these instructions (http://goo.gl/0kEifc), which are telling me to create a new user whose only purpose is to "own" a Django web app, for the purpose of limiting the damage of a hack attempt.03:01
inthedryerAny reccomended partioning schemes, I've allocated 40MB of SSD to linux, and am looking at leaving the option for multiple distros03:01
zykotick9ObrienDave: i don't have anything in my dvd drives, but i still have the devices /dev/dvd /dev/dvd2 and /dev/dvdrw2?03:01
zykotick9inthedryer: MB or GB?03:01
aliteralmindIt's telling me to change ownership of the django project directory (mydjangoapp) to the app-exclusive user (mydjangoappuser).03:01
inthedryerGB,03:01
ObrienDavezykotick9, i have DVD-RW in drive. /media/david/Xubuntu 14.04.1 LTS amd64/  still no /dev/dvd03:01
aliteralmindI understand the benefit of that, but it brings up a problem:03:01
zykotick9inthedryer: ok, 'cause 40MB is to small ;)03:02
inthedryerIn the past I've allocated roughly ~150MB to a boot partion, and made a separate partition for home03:02
gr33n7007hubuntuuser1357, just type: lspci03:02
andlabsstonner: aha!03:02
gr33n7007hsee if there's any output then pastebin03:02
andlabsit's actually a UDF03:02
jl420that was with no dvd inserted... this is with the dvd inserted http://paste.ubuntu.com/7985021/03:03
zykotick9ObrienDave: interesting...  well jl420, according to ObrienDave maybe you aren't suppose to see a /dev/dvd?03:03
amrooryIam trying to install PXEboot to use it to deploy UBUNTU images through the netwrok using this guide https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PXEInstallMultiDistro,,, but it's not working with recent version of software ... So any one can help me ... Thank you in advance03:03
KevinBryanHello03:03
inthedryeractually I can check the scheme I'm using on this dual boot system (only one hard drive)03:03
jl420ObrienDave can u look at what i pasted03:03
KevinBryanBrazil?03:04
jl420that was with no dvd inserted... this is with the dvd inserted http://paste.ubuntu.com/7985021/03:04
zykotick9jl420: if that's the case, mplayer would require additional options.  sorry, perhaps i've lead you astray :(03:04
ObrienDavejl420, it still says Couldn't open DVD device: /dev/dvd (No such file or directory)03:04
jl420ObrienDave sooooo im new to this what do u think it means03:04
ObrienDavejl420, i have been looking ;)03:04
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jl420ObrienDave sorry thank u03:05
ObrienDavejl420, well, i'm no expert but maybe you need to look in /media for the disk03:06
crocketHow do I add a new desktop action to firefox icon?03:06
inthedryerheres what sfdisk says03:06
inthedryer/dev/sda1   *     1    100    100     102400    7  HPFS/NTFS03:06
inthedryer/dev/sda2       101  95468- 95368-  97656250    7  HPFS/NTFS03:06
inthedryer/dev/sda3     95468+ 305244  209777- 214810625    5  Extended03:06
inthedryer/dev/sda4         0      -      0          0    0  Empty03:06
inthedryer/dev/sda5     95469  95713-   245-    250000   83  Linux03:06
unopasteinthedryer you have been muted for 60 seconds as it looks like you are pasting lots of lines into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com and paste just the URL of your data here when you are unmuted03:06
ObrienDavelol inthedryer03:06
jl420ObrienDave how would i go about doing that. Could u provide me some some fairly detailed instructions or point me in the way to them by chane03:07
ubuntuuser1357gr33n7007h: http://pastebin.com/SF4gpLc003:08
KevinBryan?03:09
ObrienDavejl420, insert dvd, open a file manager, find /media/<your user name>/03:09
amrooryIam trying to install PXEboot to use it to deploy UBUNTU images through the netwrok using this guide https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PXEInstallMultiDistro,,, but it's not working with recent version of software ... So any one can help me ... Thank you in advance03:09
ObrienDavejl420, that's where my DVDs show up03:10
inthedryeroops, didn't realize it would look like that03:10
ObrienDave!pastebin | inthedryer03:10
ubottuinthedryer: For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use http://imgur.com/ !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic.03:10
crocketI got it03:10
inthedryerI got it, I think it auto gave me that message03:11
gr33n7007hubuntuuser1357, It's not picking up the integrated sound card HW, you could possibly check in you bios to see if there is an option to enable it other then that I don't know03:11
Bustingr33n7007h: my apologies, daughter was needy! You still around?03:11
gghttp://imgur.com/dp3AvWc this stick should boot now? btw im using xubuntu 12.0403:11
inthedryeror did you, here, if you're bored, is my last partitioning scheme03:11
inthedryerhttp://paste.ubuntu.com/7985119/03:11
gr33n7007hBustin, yep03:11
BustinRemember where we left off?03:11
jl420ObrienDave thanx im gonna keep workin on this If u think of anything else that might help me please let me know. Also is there a way to provate message on this caht03:11
inthedryerThink is was a hybrid of a number of FAQ's and whatnot03:12
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ubottujl420: Please ask your questions in the channel so that other people can help you, benefit from your questions and answers, and ensure that you're not getting bad advice.03:12
gg!lol03:12
ObrienDavejl420, better for you and others to keep the help here03:12
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gr33n7007hBustin, make sure the keyboard in search mode then type: sudo hidd --connect 00:22:41:D9:CE:6303:13
ObrienDavejl420, what do you use for a media player?03:13
jl420schrodingersScat do u know anthing that could help me with my dvd issues03:13
jl420ive tried mplayer and vlc03:13
jl420obriendave03:13
ubuntuuser1357gr33n7007h:  thanks for helping confirm that.  unfortunately my 100BaseT lan port is busy moving a couple hundred GB of files so it will be another 4hrs or so before I can reboot.03:14
inthedryerspeaking of kernel, is it that useful to give it its own partition03:14
Bustingr33n7007h: still giving me the "host down"03:14
Bustinmessage03:14
gr33n7007hubuntuuser1357, np03:14
ObrienDaveinthedryer, i run 2 linux partitions / and /home03:15
inthedryerAlso, I checked my hdd, and I already freed up 80GB, would I be better off putting /home here?03:15
jl420Im Lost!!! I cant figure this cd/dvd drive problem03:15
sgo11hi, I am trying to disable journaling in ext4. when I do that, it shows it can only be cleared when filesystem is unmounted or mounted read-only. I tried to umount it. but there is a problem. if the fileystem is umounted, how can I find it? /dev/sdb1 does not exist when it's unmounted. thanks.03:16
ubuntuuser1357gr33n700h:  any idea how to get it to use my bluetooth adapter and headset as a sound card?03:16
gr33n7007hBustin, the only reason it will say that is that there no route to your keyboard 1) it's powered off 2) it's not in discoverable mode03:16
ubuntuuser1357gr33n700h:  that it *is* seeing.... just not as a sound card!03:17
inthedryerI probably give this problem way too much thought. I only split the last one into 6 linux partitons03:17
daftykinsjl420: 1) install VLC 2) play disc 3) be happy03:18
jl420daftykins I sure wish it worked like that for me03:18
gr33n7007hubuntuuser1357, I wouldn't know how sorry :(03:19
daftykinsjl420: at what point does it go wrong?03:19
ObrienDaveinthedryer, lol just a bit. at one time you needed 6 or so. and i think there is a distro that still uses separate / /root /home etc.03:19
jl420from the time i put the disc in.03:19
jl420daftykins03:19
jl420daftykins I try to play any movie and vlc says it cannot open the mrl03:20
jl420thats how this started now ive tryed EVERYTHING I can find on the issue daftykins03:20
andlabsHi. How can I add a file to a UDF disk image? Thanks.03:20
ubuntuuser1357gr33n7007h:  hey np, just figured I'd ask.... if anyone else knows bluetooth well.... care to giv it a shot?03:20
daftykinsjl420: and what did 'EVERYTHING' involve?03:21
Bustingr33n7007h: I'm certain it's in "pairing" / "searching" mode03:21
daftykinsjl420: ok, can you "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install pastebinit" then "dmesg | pastebinit" please03:21
ObrienDavedaftykins, me and zykotick9 have been trying to help. only 1 DVD mounts and/or plays03:22
Bustingr33n7007h: http://pastebin.com/VEHYkEt903:22
daftykinsObrienDave: '1 DVD' ?03:22
ObrienDavethat's what he said03:22
jl420daftykins here we go... I installed ubuntu restricted extras, libdvdread4, libdvdnav4, libdvdcss since then ive spent hours trying to solve the problem using vlc and mplayer through terminal.03:22
daftykinsObrienDave: as in one disc of several films? jl420 can you confirm?03:22
jl420yes i will do that now daftykins03:22
daftykinsjl420: 'libdvdcss2' yes?03:23
inthedryerlol, I think the idea was to use one kernel in a small boot sector to speed up startup for multiboot (its still just dual boot). I best get to work and see if I can deal with UEFI and GPT partioning on my other system.03:23
jl420ive tried lots of different store bought dvd movies and only one works and the only thing different about this one dvd movie is its name is setup03:23
jl420doing what u asked now daftykins03:23
inthedryerdid you get the proprietary drivers?03:24
JordanJ2Hi all, I'm getting a few errors with my IPv6 only VPS and doing apt-get update, I get these errors http://paste.ubuntu.com/7985230/ and this is what is in my /etc/apt/sources.list http://paste.ubuntu.com/7985228/03:24
jl420yes 2 sorry daftykins03:24
inthedryerDVD is not open source, so you need to get drivers after install, also most have copy protection schemes03:24
gr33n7007hBustin, try: hidd --search03:24
inthedryerso I assume that one that worked wasn't copy protected03:24
gr33n7007hBustin, try: sudo hidd --search03:24
daftykinsinthedryer: drivers is not an appropriate term for DVD film.03:24
KevinBryanhello03:24
daftykinsinthedryer: please don't comment when you don't understand the topic well03:25
ubuntuuser1357can output be piped to pastebinit, i.e. lspci|pastebinit03:25
daftykinsyes.03:26
inthedryerI couldn't think of the right term. codec right?03:26
Bustingr33n7007h: http://pastebin.com/GhUvKU1c03:26
ubuntuuser1357daftykins: sweet (if that yes was intended as an answer...)03:27
ObrienDaveinthedryer, the real issue is the system is not recognizing the DVD at all. no mount, no read, no play03:27
daftykinsubuntuuser1357: yep, you could've also tried it to find out ;)03:27
jl420daftykins http://paste.ubuntu.com/7985245/03:27
inthedryerooh, but its recognizing the drive?03:28
ubuntuuser1357the man might give an example of that.  such syntax could be a really handy way tp pastebin stuff03:28
daftykinsinthedryer: i know you mean well but you're not helping03:28
daftykinsjl420: ok at least i see the drive fine on line 760 there03:28
gr33n7007hBustin, make sure green led is blinking on keyboard and try: hidd --killall && rfcomm connect /dev/rfcomm0 00:22:41:D9:CE:6303:29
jl420daftykins so thats good right lol03:29
daftykinsjl420: yep, now can you explain what ObrienDave told me about one DVD working and others not? also, what kind of discs are these? all legitimate purchased films (i don't care whether you're naughty or not, it'll just make life a lot easier to know either way)03:30
JordanJ2Hi all, I'm getting a few errors with my IPv6 only VPS and doing apt-get update, I get these errors http://paste.ubuntu.com/7985230/ and this is what is in my /etc/apt/sources.list http://paste.ubuntu.com/7985228/03:30
pacoSMy dvd detects the DVD but does not play it I get error while reading file with chapters ... any one has seen this error??03:31
andlabsok different question03:31
andlabshow do I add an ISO to a loop device03:31
daftykinsJordanJ2: your first paste suggests a DNS issue, not a repo issue03:31
daftykinsandlabs: sudo mkdir /mnt/image && sudo mount -t iso9660 -o loop /path/to/file.iso /mnt/image03:32
jl420daftykins They are all legetimate big name hollywood films all coywrite protected. The only diffrence with the one dvd that works and the one that doesnt is the name. None of them are burnt or anything theyre all legite good copys. the name of the one that works happens to be "setup". its a movie no different than the rest but the name03:32
andlabsdaftykins: that's how to mount an ISO image03:32
andlabsI just want to drop it into a loop device03:33
sgo11is that possible to remove whoopsie? when I try to apt-get remove it, it will also remove desktop manager...03:33
Bustingr33n7007h: this is baffling, the green light is flashing, ran the command, and Can't connect RFCOMM socket: Host is down03:33
daftykinsandlabs: i don't follow the distinction then, sorry.03:33
Bustinbut my bluetooth mouse (which is a mac mouse too) pairs fine03:33
sgo11the same happens to apport.03:33
andlabsdaftykins: so I can use /dev/loop0 in utilities like cdrwtool that demand an actual CD burner03:33
gr33n7007hBustin, this is puzzling me too, have you got new batteries in the keyboard?03:34
daftykinsandlabs: oh so you just want to know the device name once mounted?03:34
jl420daftykins is there anything else i can do03:34
gr33n7007hBustin, try turning power on keyboard ON/OFF a couple of times and try again03:34
Bustingr33n7007h: ok, it's connected, and did it via Blueman.03:35
BustinWow..03:35
daftykinsjl420: so the film that works, you see an icon appear on the desktop, but for the others - nothing?03:35
Bustinit found it, and actually connected. Using it as we speak, thank you for all your help03:35
gr33n7007hBustin, glad to hear :)03:35
Bustingr33n7007h: should I remove bluez?03:35
jl420daftykins yup exactly03:35
andlabsdaftykins: sure that works03:35
gr33n7007hBustin, no not really03:35
daftykinsjl420: no obvious damage to the disc surface i take it?03:35
andlabsah, it's losetup03:36
jl420daftykins nope theyre all good and played in this player before ubuntu install 2 weeks ago03:36
daftykinsandlabs: so manual mount as above then spot the mount location with 'df -h' maybe03:36
Bustingr33n7007h: I want to thank you for your assistance, and being so patient.03:36
Bustinvery helpful, thanks again.03:36
daftykinsjl420: what was different then? Windows?03:36
gr33n7007hBustin, np :)03:36
inthedryerback as a customer, so yest it gets to the welcome screen, the mouse freezes up and it shortly thereafter crashes03:36
jl420daftykins ya it had windaows xp but it was going downhill fast and i really like ubuntu other than this03:37
sgo11Is that possible to uninstall/remove whoopsie and apport? thanks.03:37
jcabbHi. 12.04 installed.  Does this OS automatically spin down a SATA or do I need to configure that?  Thanks.03:38
inthedryerI'm in grub v2.02, found an editing screen: "setparams 'Start Kubuntu'"03:38
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SchrodingersScatjcabb: there's a 'spin down disks' option in the power settings, if that sounds right03:39
xanguajcabb: you probably need something like tlp http://www.webupd8.org/2013/04/improve-power-usage-battery-life-in.html03:39
daftykinsjl420: mmm pretty old school system, Pentium M and what looks like 1GB RAM. i can only suggest trying other distributions until you find something that works, i have no idea why it'd be so picky.03:39
jcabbxangua, its a desktop if that matters03:39
jcabbI just don't need the HDD spinning 24/7 just when accessed via samba or ssh03:39
daftykinsjcabb: just so you know, that induces more wear over time03:40
jl420daftykins its actually 2gbs of ram but your right it is a very dated system. What about a fresh install or maybe Lubuntu03:40
jcabbdaftykins, ok ill keep it in mind03:40
jcabbSchrodingersScat, just checked, HDD isnt an option just suspension & batt stuff.. thx tho03:40
daftykinsjl420: i doubt you'd see much difference sticking within the ubuntu family still really, you may want to consider further afield but also keep within the debian family (maybe debian itself, or other derivatives like Mint which is based off of ubuntu)03:41
jl420daftykins do u think mint would be a good option with my limited system hardware03:42
SchrodingersScatjl420: found it in 'on ac' but now I'm not sure about that..03:42
SchrodingersScatoops03:42
SchrodingersScatjcabb: ^03:42
jcabbok thx03:42
NeoGeo64so im having a lot of fun running linux.03:42
daftykinsjl420: mmm depends which desktop you go with i suppose, give them a shout about whether one is lightweight or not03:43
daftykinsNeoGeo64: great to hear, however this channel is for support questions only03:43
ObrienDavejl420, i would recommend Xubuntu03:44
inthedryerok, I tried editing the grup starup parameters to statup in text, and it gets stuck03:45
daftykinsjl420: oh i had one more idea which i forgot... can you put one of the non-working discs in then run "tail /var/log/syslog | pastebinit" and also "tail /var/log/messages | pastebinit"03:45
jl420daftykins ok thank u im gonna start looking into different distros.... this is a laptop im working with i have 2 other computers I can use so I have no problem trying different things ObrienDave would tha not be the same as me switching to Lubuntu? and just a question as a linux newb but is the terminal commands pretty much the same throughout03:45
daftykinsjl420: indeed a Dell Latitude D610 ;)03:45
daftykinsrunning BIOS A06 no less.03:45
inthedryerWARNING: CPU 2 PID 1 at /build...03:46
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daftykinsinthedryer: please construct full sentences rather than just typing or pasting randomly03:46
jl420daftykins yup its a beast lol... What do u think the best distro would be for my latitude d61003:46
jcabbjl420, i found crunchbang to run great myself03:46
daftykinsjl420: would you like to run the above for me first - also i have no idea, i would donate that system to Africa.03:47
inthedryerThat's the main item of text output before it gets stuck during startup of the live USB in text mode03:47
Bustingr33n7007h: since you're so familiar, and good with Linux, how stable is compiz with Xubuntu 14.04 LTS? Or is it03:47
jl420lol ya no doubt i dunno it works pretty good as a spare computer daftykins03:47
jl420Ill run those now daftykins03:48
inthedryerIt then mentions the Hardware name, and hexidecimal addresses.03:48
gr33n7007hBustin, never used compiz so can't really help there03:49
daftykinsinthedryer: please see my earlier comment.03:49
BustinNo worries gr33n7007h, thanks :)03:49
gr33n7007hBustin, xfce is quite customizable and sleek03:49
daftykinsBustin: most people run xubuntu for the lightweight style, to get away from the unnecessary 3D junk that compiz gives unity on standard ubuntu. not sure why you'd want to add it back in :)03:50
jl420http://paste.ubuntu.com/7985350/ daftykins03:50
Bustindaftykins: I am quite happy with xubuntu, but I don't like not seeing animations for minimize and maximize, that's all really lol03:50
amrooryIam trying to install PXEboot to use it to deploy UBUNTU images through the netwrok using this guide https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PXEInstallMultiDistro,,, but it's not working with recent version of software ... So any one can help me ... Thank you in advance03:51
amrooryIam trying to install PXEboot to use it to deploy UBUNTU images through the netwrok using this guide https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PXEInstallMultiDistro,,, but it's not working with recent version of software ... So any one can help me ... Thank you in advance03:51
inthedryerI was decribing the output of the text based startup in the hopes that this would point to what parameter I may change to correct the issue. I'm working off the original link you had poseted.03:51
amrooryIam trying to server to use it to deploy UBUNTU images through the netwrok using this guide https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PXEInstallMultiDistro,,, but it's not working with recent version of software ... So any one can help me ... Thank you in advance03:52
bong1so do we now have a clickey like program on linux? https://www.grc.com/freeware/clickey.htm03:52
jl420the second command u asked me to run says im trying to send an empty document daftykins03:52
ObrienDave!patience | amroory03:52
ubottuamroory: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. While you wait, try searching https://help.ubuntu.com or http://ubuntuforums.org or http://askubuntu.com/03:52
daftykinsamroory: don't do that again.03:52
xangua!info xcompmgr | Bustin maybe this helps03:52
ubottuBustin maybe this helps: xcompmgr (source: xcompmgr): X composition manager. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.1.6-1 (trusty), package size 18 kB, installed size 69 kB03:52
daftykinsjl420: ok no problem, no clues there then (assuming you put the disc in just beforehand)03:53
amrooryoky sorry03:53
jl420ok ill try again daftykins03:53
xanguait offers shadows  in menus and fade effect when minimize03:54
jl420ya it says im trying to send an empty document did u see the first one daftykins03:54
daftykinsjl420: yep nothing useful i'm afraid. definitely distro change time03:54
daftykinsamroory: as a tip though, someone is more likely to want to help if you say what you've tried (as per the guide) and where it stops working. you can write up a more lengthy explanation, pop it on paste.ubuntu.com then include it in your question.03:55
ObrienDavejl420, how about a clean install, back up and reformat03:55
jl420daftykins thank u for your help.. and u think linux mint would be the best be for me im a pretty advanced computer user bertter with hardware than software but i enjoy learning and u know what system im using lol soooo with all that lol03:56
jl420daftykins i am new at linux tho and would it be the same basic principle as ubuntu03:56
daftykinsjust experiment really, if you get a different result on the DVD playing - great03:57
mikeg3Hi I have installed ubuntu 14.04 and have had to reset my password for login.  Now when I try to log in, all it requires is a mouse click, even though I want to type my password.  what is wrong?03:58
mikeg3Auto login is disabled, btw03:59
jl420whats the best desktop unity, xfce....etc04:00
lotuspsychje!best04:00
daftykinsthere is no best, only that which works for you.04:00
daftykinslotuspsychje: can't believe that one got deleted too =|04:00
lotuspsychjedaftykins: did they do a cleaning perhaps?04:01
inthedryerxfce is quite fast.04:01
daftykinslotuspsychje: yeah, i've spotted some ops murdering factoids without replacing04:01
bong1jl420: lxde i use it myself with lubuntu, its so fast.04:01
lotuspsychje!factoids04:01
ubottuHi! I'm #ubuntu's favorite infobot, you can search my brain yourself at http://ubottu.com/factoids.cgi | Usage info: http://ubottu.com/devel/wiki/Plugins | Bot channels and general info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/Bots | Make a clone of me: /msg ubottu botclone04:01
lotuspsychjedaftykins: tnx lemme check latest ones :p04:02
inthedryerA nontechie friend has been running an unupdated version for years, and it gets the job done.04:02
jl420bong1 is it reliable and is there alot of the same applications and principles as unity04:02
lotuspsychjeunity is also fast, depends how one uses it04:03
daftykinsinthedryer: please stop using this as a chat channel, you're welcome to chat in #ubuntu-offtopic04:03
jl420I am very pleased with my unity desktop just looking to try something different hoping it will help me solve an issue....Is it bad to keep installing and uninstalling different os often04:05
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inthedryerI'm not using it as chat, the man asked what was the best desktop, and I gave him anecdotal info about it. Plus I have proper problems going on in the mean time.04:06
daftykinsinthedryer: try and keep it to support only and not argue, thanks04:06
lotuspsychjejl420: its best to solve your specific issue04:07
bong1 well said inthedryer04:07
nightdemon666hey guys... i need some help. my ubuntu box is screwed up hardcore now. i know what i did, i have tried to reverse it, now im nearly forced to reinstall :-( I NEED HELP04:11
eeeenightdemon666: what did you do?04:11
nightdemon666i have been messing with VDPAU and getting VA working... i got it working fairly well, but i wanted to fix an issue with a file it wanted to open but couldnt04:12
nightdemon666i added a couple of environment variables in /etc/environment and once i rebooted the problems started04:13
daftykinsboot live session, chroot, undo the mistakes04:13
daftykinsback in time for dinner.04:13
nightdemon666i ssh'd in since by graphics was SO SLOW and removed the variables and rebooted again,  but the problem has persisted :-(04:14
nightdemon666this is my media center box and have put alot of work into it04:14
inthedryerWhat sort of hardware is in it?04:15
daftykins"the problems" ?04:15
nightdemon666eeee you getting all of this... i tried removing the intel-linux-graphics-installer to attempt going back to stock intel graphics drivers04:15
nightdemon666its a mac mini 2007 build04:15
nightdemon666interl version04:15
nightdemon666everything worked pretty well. i was very satisfied,, until i broke it today :-(04:15
daftykinsstill waiting to hear what the problems are04:16
sgo11how can I define a second icon theme which will be used when the icon is missing in the chosen icon theme? thanks.04:16
nightdemon666when i htop, i see that one of the cores is going crazy to nearor at 100%04:16
inthedryerTo run the stock intel drivers, did you have to use a driver wrapper?04:17
euxneksI just installed ubuntu 14.04 and <super> is not being recognized when pressed04:17
euxneksalt, ctrl work04:17
eeeeeuxneks: type xev in the terminal04:17
daftykinsinthedryer: nightdemon666 means the default drivers from the base install, now please stop wasting peoples time04:17
euxneksevery other key works.. any suggestions I can follow?04:17
RahulANwhy i am not getting chrome on my launcher? it is running04:17
RahulANand as i am minimizing it, it is lost, I don;t know where?04:18
nightdemon666daftykins, im sorry, im a wasting your time?04:18
euxnekseeee: yeah, strange, <super> is not recognized, maybe I have to change my keyboard layout04:18
daftykinsnightdemon666: read the sentence again, the first nick was the intended recipient04:18
inthedryerHow do you know what he means? I'm trying to at least help get the screws turning until my problem is solved04:18
daftykinsinthedryer: because i know what i'm talking about.04:19
BeldarRahulAN, In the terminal google-chrome04:19
nightdemon666ok, just making sure... im trying to get to the point here where what im trying to do is get to the bottom on what the heck happend to make this crazy graphics issue persistant04:19
RahulANhow to get chrome running on side bar?04:19
daftykinsnightdemon666: so oter than high CPU Load on one core, still waiting to hear what problems you're experiencing04:19
nightdemon666i made sure the environment variables i set were removed from the /etc/environment file... do they get stuck somewhere else too and the system is still using those variables?04:20
RahulANBeldar, yes it invokes but nothing is shown on side bar of chrome04:20
nightdemon666the symptom is that the graphics are now REALLY choppy and slow04:20
BeldarRahulAN, side bar of chrome?04:20
nightdemon666because that one core is working its ass off to render the video output i guess :-/04:21
RahulANNo side bar of ubuntu desktop04:21
RahulANBeldar,  ^04:21
daftykinsnightdemon666: "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install pastebinit" - then "pastebinit /var/log/Xorg.0.log"04:21
daftykinsnightdemon666: also what version is this please?04:21
nightdemon66614.0404:21
nightdemon666amd mac04:21
BeldarRahulAN, not a chrome or unity user, maybe the reset for your release might work04:21
inthedryerI don't want to interupt with my problem while in the middle of solving his. Thus I do as my Math Teacher once said "Just by asking me the problem and my bouncing your questions back at you, you guys figure out the problems yourself "04:22
daftykinsinthedryer: that is not acceptable here.04:22
RahulANBeldar, previously when i was working i was getting my running application icon on my desktop side bar, but as i am running chrome its icon is not coming on side bar04:23
Beldarinthedryer, That can become really irritating04:23
sgo11found the solution, just edit index.theme. anyway.04:23
nightdemon666inthedryer, i appreciate any help,im pretty bummed out about screwing my computer up04:23
BeldarRahulAN, not a chrome or unity user, maybe the reset for your release might work04:23
* johnc4510 to channel...I know this isn't an ubuntu problem but maybe someone can help...i registered my nick and password with freenode yesterday and used both. today it won't recognize my password....and /stats p shows me no freenode staff. How do i reset my password?04:23
RahulANBeldar, how to reset?04:24
nightdemon666http://paste.ubuntu.com/7985553/04:24
euxnekslooks like my keyboard layout is fine04:24
Beldarjohnc4510, #freenode04:24
lotuspsychje!register | johnc451004:24
ubottujohnc4510: Information about registering your nickname: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat/Registration - Type « /nick <nickname> » to select your nickname. Registration help available by typing /join #freenode04:24
euxneksso, new question: xev doesn't detect <super> key presses04:24
BeldarRahulAN, look up unity compiz reset for your ubuntu release.04:24
johnc4510Beldar: looking now04:24
daftykinsnightdemon666: standard intel driver in use, what are you judging 'choppiness' from?04:26
sgo11hi, I am trying to disable service at startup. for example "sudo update-rc.d -f whoopsie remove". it doesn't work. after reboot, the service is still running. can anyone help? thanks.04:27
sayash\quit04:27
euxneksoh snap04:27
nightdemon666when i click on the dash, it now takes forever to load, anything takes for ever to load. at log in screen everything seems normal, but when i boot to the desktop, when i click on anything its choppy as crap04:27
euxneksI just figured it out, I had a "joystick" button pressed which disables the super key04:27
ObrienDavethat was easy ;P04:28
daftykinsnightdemon666: i'd suggest you look up how you should've uninstalled that other intel driver...04:30
nightdemon666i also tried a different accountof mine on the system, so its definitely system wide. when i had the VDPAU driver installed, i did do the no-no of setting the driver system wide by uncommenting the file /etc/X11/Xsession.d/20vdpau-va-g04:30
daftykinsVDPAU is not a driver.04:30
nightdemon666but i set the comments back, and no changes :-(04:30
inthedryerAs for me, I have a system that never ran linux, and has hardware designed for windows 8, in other words, designed to make installing linux a bit**04:30
nightdemon666i did sudo apt-get purge intel-linux-graphics-installer04:31
daftykinsinthedryer: EFI installs are easy04:31
daftykinsnightdemon666: i know what you did, but that's not what i said :)04:31
nightdemon666which other intel driver daftykins?04:32
nightdemon666you said you can see that the stock one is in use?04:32
daftykinswell i can see *A* 'intel' driver is in use04:33
nightdemon666andyes, i understand that VDPAU is not a driver, i mis-stated that04:33
nightdemon666yeah the i915 one right?04:34
daftykinswell i don't know how the one you downloaded the installer for would be called, if anything different04:34
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daftykinsbut what i said above was for you to go back to that site, presumably 01.org ? and look at how *they* say to properly uninstall their driver04:34
Beldarinthedryer, At one time MS was the largest contributor to the linux kernel, no design for making linux anything in usfi.04:35
nightdemon666i can pop in a live CD and see what kernel module loads, but i don t have time for that now04:35
Beldaruefi*04:35
daftykinsnightdemon666: in fairness though it sounds like you've been fiddling with everything under the sun, so perhaps you should just clean install04:35
nightdemon666yeah i thought about that too... i do need to look further into that, although i reinstaleld it again just to see if the installer would happen to fix something that got messed up04:35
nightdemon666daftykins, i know, i'd hate to have to do that too, it acts as an smb server and ssh/sftp server for other clients :-(04:36
daftykinsah, you made a huge mistake in your HTPC design.04:37
daftykins*modularity* is key04:37
nightdemon666daftykins, yep just thought about that too. all the files should reside on a separate server that all it does is host files on a headless server. nothing fancy04:39
k_sze[work]Looks like the '-U' option of `top` is broken even in 12.04 LTS04:42
k_sze[work]Is there anyway around it?04:43
daftykinsnightdemon666: btw have i seen you in XBMC before? is that what you use?04:54
Anon_77514hello04:59
inthedryerdaftykins: Why have you been rude to me? I don't know as much as you, but thats why we are here, and yes I'm picking up this chat room's etiquette rules (and irc commands) as I go, but I am picking them up. Why not restore the atmosphere of magnanimity by answering this: How, on grub 2.02, shall I enter commands in order to produce the data needed to find the root of my problem?05:00
Anon_77514anyone know anything about kali linux05:00
inthedryera little bit05:01
Anon_77514do you hack?05:01
Anon_77514or what do you do because im in here to try and learn something05:02
inthedryerHave you got your Kali distro running smoothly? And do you own the systems you are trying to hack?05:03
Beldar!kali | Anon_77514 of course you are05:03
ubottuAnon_77514 of course you are: Ubuntu channels can only provide support for Ubuntu itself, as other distributions and derivatives have repository and software changes. Please consult their websites for more information. Examples: gNewSense (support in #gnewsense), Linux Mint (see !mint), kali-linux (#kali-linux), CrunchBang (support in #crunchbang), BackTrack (support in #backtrack-linux)05:03
Anon_77514i have kali setup on vmware and i also have a win 7 on vm ware05:03
Anon_77514the win 7 i want to use as test05:04
daftykinsAnon_77514: this is not the channel for you.05:04
inthedryerkali ought to have its own channel05:04
daftykinsit does.05:04
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daftykinsit's linked above05:04
daftykinsinthedryer: it's becoming pretty apparent that you're trolling05:05
vicsar.05:05
inthedryerI'm not trolling, i don't find pleasure in the activity05:05
inthedryerI just happen to be a dilettante, I mess with a little bit of everything, but havent gotten around to mastering anything, hence why I am here05:07
daftykinsinthedryer: you think i've been rude, i've been repeatedly telling you your actions are against channel policy and you've continued anyway. do not address people you are unable to help.05:08
malkaunsanyone experiencing 2 lockscreen on resume in 14.04?05:10
malkaunslockscreens*05:10
jjjjhttp://timemachine.jounin.jp/05:12
patrikubuntu phone05:13
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daftykins!touch | Guest8349905:13
ubottuGuest83499: Information about the Ubuntu Touch platform for Phone and Tablet is available here https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch . Support and discussion in #ubuntu-touch05:13
Anon_77514ubuntu is phone programming?05:13
Guest83499what is the new ubuntu project05:16
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Guest83499hai05:16
Guest83499jack05:16
Beldarnot answering pointless questions05:17
Guest83499ubuntu05:17
inthedryerdaftykins: If I came off rude it was by accident, I feel you have been rude on purpose. There was no need to use your experience and knowledge as a bludgeon. And I am nowhere closer to solving my problem. Do you not know commands to type in at the grub prompt?05:17
Guest83499interface05:17
Guest83499ubutu interface05:17
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daftykinsinthedryer: i was using neither, i have been telling you to stop breaking the rules of the channel, now silence please.05:18
inthedryerAnybody but daftykins, have you any experience with live CD's or live USB's crashing?05:20
daftykinsBeldar: we've got one of THOSE on our hands yet again.05:21
inthedryerOne of those, what the hell is with your ego trip man? Yeah I could have left our the "Anybody but" but the "Silence Please" quite irked me.05:22
BeldarI just use the ignore not worth the headache. ;)05:23
daftykins^_^05:23
tac_Why does bash choke to death when I write a command with a ! in it?05:24
tac_like echo "hello!"05:24
tac_it doesn't store the failed command in my history. And more aggrivatingly, it doesn't let me escape the ! with echo "hello\!"05:25
malkaunsworks fine for me05:25
malkaunsno idea05:25
tac_the \! thing doesn't actually do an escape, I should clarify. I *just* want the !, not the slash in front of it05:25
terryworks fine for me escaped and not05:26
daftykinstac_: i believe there's a bash channel if you get stuck here05:26
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Guest98459Yo, did ubuntu shit aint working.05:32
Guest98459wtf yo, website said dis shit be easy05:33
tac_apparently set +H turns this behavior off globally05:35
tac_and otherwise, you can escape only with single quotes using \05:35
Guest98459da shit kewps fudkin up at da instal screen. wtf?05:39
runfromnowhereHm, is this the right channel to use to discuss an Ubuntu Server/KVM issue?05:39
hateballrunfromnowhere: you can try, but there is also #ubuntu-server05:40
runfromnowhereAhh that might be a better place to try, I'll ask there first :)05:40
runfromnowhereThanks!05:40
secstackHi. Where are configs saved which were set in the system configurations?05:40
Guest98459yo hateball, you ever have probs wit install not stating?05:40
Guest98459How do I fix dat shit, do I need to get gentoo?05:41
moarrrubuntu is trash and useless and slow - https://twitter.com/DanMAbraham05:42
moarrr:P05:42
daftykinsmy my, the trolls are in force today05:42
Guest98459so wat do I get moarrr?05:45
secstackWhere are my system configurations are saved? Home directory?05:46
hateballsecstack: "system" configurations typically go in /etc, user configurations in your home05:47
Guest98459And nigga, callin a mothafucka a troll aint solvin dis shit05:48
somsip!ops | Guest9845905:49
ubottuGuest98459: Help! Channel emergency! (ONLY use this trigger in emergencies) - Pici, Myrtti, jrib, Amaranth, tonyyarusso, Nalioth, lamont, CarlK, elky, mneptok, PriceChild, Tm_T, jpds, ikonia, Flannel, genii, wgrant, stdin, h00k, IdleOne, nhandler, Jordan_U, popey, Corey, ocean, cprofitt, djones, Madpilot, gnomefreak, lhavelund, k1l, rww, phunyguy, bazhang05:49
ObrienDavewow, full moon time ;P05:51
secstackhateball, so everything I do in the system settings of Ubuntu is stored under /etc and not in ~?05:51
hateballsecstack: No. It depends on the application you configure05:53
hateballsecstack: Usually you have systemwide settings in /etc, with user overrides in ~/05:53
secstackhateball, okay but I assume that Ubuntu system settings are saved in ~ (because they are user specific).05:54
Anon_77514whats the purpose of ubuntu05:54
hateballsecstack: Basically, if you're asked to enter your password to change something it's not stored in your ~/05:54
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thomas_-help06:08
thomas_--help06:08
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Anon_77514whats so good about ubuntu06:14
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hateball!ot | Anon_7751406:14
ubottuAnon_77514: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!06:14
Anon_77514ok srry06:15
Alihi06:23
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Guest76506can you help me ?06:23
Guest76506Earth Link, owner of sense in my online distributor has shut down all ports Is there a way or program I tried to open all the roads for two years and did not succeed for any way to open06:24
Guest76506Earth Link, owner of sense in my online distributor has shut down all ports Is there a way or program I tried to open all the roads for two years and did not succeed for any way to open06:25
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alexnderhello06:27
alexnderД06:28
tr33housealexnder: hey!06:30
tr33housealexnder: welcome to the #ubuntu channel \o06:33
tr33house\quit06:33
sgo11hi, when I run "sudo update-grub", which partition will it install to? My grub is at /dev/sdb. It doesn't take any change after I run "sudo update-grub".06:34
hateballsgo11: update-grub only updates the config in /boot/grub/grub.cfg06:40
hateballsgo11: So it doesnt care what partition that might be on06:41
laughingtigerwhy are you updating grub sgo11?06:42
sgo11hateball, I changed the timeout to be 0 in /etc/default/grub. but it doesn't change.06:42
hateballsgo11: Do you mean that it does not change /boot/grub/grub.cfg, or that it "doesnt work" ?06:44
laughingtigerdo it again sao11 and it may work.06:45
eeeesgo11: try grub-mkconfig06:45
sgo11let me try it again.06:46
laughingtigeror try update-grub206:46
hateballall update-grub is, is a wrapper for grub-mkconfig :)06:46
sgo11it doesn't work. so what should i do now?06:47
laughingtigernow reboot it06:47
laughingtigerand then do it again, maybe it'll work.06:48
sgo11laughingtiger, update-grub2 and update-grub are the same program.06:48
laughingtigerlol. I think the file you've tried to edit didn't get saved.06:49
sgo11hateball, I change GRUB_HIDDEN_TIMEOUT=0 and GRUB_TIMEOUT=0 in /etc/default/grub, then run sudo update-grub. it doesn't work.06:49
laughingtigercheck the file06:49
hateballsgo11: What I asked was: does it not change the contents of /boot/grub/grub.cfg at all?06:50
hateballOr does it "not work" when you boot?06:50
sgo11hateball, I don't where to look in grub.cfg. I did grep those parameters. nothing in grub.cfg06:50
sgo11I don't know*06:50
hateballsgo11: the params have different names, grep for time06:50
eeeesgo11: cat /boot/grub/grub.cfg | grep timeout06:51
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sgo11hateball, eeee http://pastebin.de/12901006:52
eeeesgo11: it's set to 006:53
sgo11eeee, but at every boot, I can see the grub is counting from 8s.06:54
sgo11btw, I installed the ubuntu to a usb flash drive. /dev/sdb is where the grub installed. I am not sure if that matters or not.06:55
laughingtigerwhy didn't you mentioned this earlier, this is exactly where the problem lies.06:56
laughingtigerlol06:57
sgo11laughingtiger, I said the grub was installed in /dev/sdb. is that not enough? so please, what is the problem? thanks.06:57
blueingressHi have anyone use evernote from ubuntu?06:58
laughingtigerwell, is /dev/sdb your usb or hard drive? sgo1106:58
sgo11laughingtiger, /dev/sdb is my usb.06:58
laughingtigermaybe grub has been installed into somewhere else. lol06:59
sgo11laughingtiger, when I install ubuntu, I am sure that is installed to /dev/sdb. I used this usb flash in many PCs. the grub is the same when booting from that usb drive.06:59
laughingtigerI don't know, I just think you installed it on a usb is the cause of the problem06:59
sgo11hateball, eeee sorry to interrupt, any ideas?07:01
eeeesgo11: sudo nano /etc/default/grub07:01
sgo11eeee, yeah, do I pastebin the contents to you?07:02
eeeesgo11: no, add this line GRUB_RECORDFAIL_TIMEOUT=$GRUB_TIMEOUT07:02
eeeethen sudo update-grub and restart07:03
sgo11eeee, ok. doing it now. thanks.07:03
laughingtigerbtw, don't be so obsessed with those little tricks. lol07:04
laughingtigerand don't care what I've said , I'm only a laughing tiger who can only lol. lol07:05
sgo11eeee, sorry. it still shows 8s. I am in grub screen.07:05
Beldar!bootinfo | sgo11 this will tell you every where grub is07:08
ubottusgo11 this will tell you every where grub is: Boot info script is a useful script for diagnosing boot problems. Run the script following the directions here: http://bootinfoscript.sourceforge.net/ and then look at RESULTS.txt (or !pastebin it for others to look at).07:08
Beldarplug the usb in when running it07:08
TJ-Having fun with GRUB?07:08
eeeesgo11: type cat /boot/grub/grub.cfg | grep recordfail=07:13
sgo11eeee, that shows set recordfail=107:14
eeeetry to manually set it to 0, and reboot07:15
eeeeif it works thats the problem, but next time you run update-grub it'll disappear07:15
sgo11eeee, ok. I will try that. if that dose not work, i will paste bootinfo result to pastebin. thanks.07:15
eeeesudo nano /boot/grub/grub.cfg > ctrl+w to search, type recordfail=07:16
sgo11eeee, sorry, it still shows 8s.07:18
eeeesgo11: what's on your pc?07:20
sgo11eeee, Beldar http://pastebin.de/12901107:21
HelperW_I have a question I have ubuntu setup07:21
eeeemaybe the grub found on the other drive is being run, and it sees the OS of the USB?07:21
HelperW_but im pretty new to this07:21
sgo11eeee, another ubuntu installation.07:21
eeeesgo11: ok great07:21
HelperW_a lot of the time  I see access denied for my files. is there a way I can disable that for a whole directory?07:21
HelperW_I login with my FTP credentials07:22
sgo11eeee, at boot time, I choose boot from USB. it uses my /dev/sdb usb grub.07:22
HelperW_into my var/www/html folder.07:22
HelperW_But everythime I try to create a new folder I get 'access denied'.07:22
HelperW_How can I enable it that it's always possible to create files and folders via FTP?07:23
Beldarsgo11, You have /boot/grub/grub.cfg /etc/fstab in the OS and the usb.07:23
HelperW_"Error -140: remote mkdir failed"07:23
eeeesgo11:  so there's only one OS to choose from in the grub menu?07:23
HelperW_I guess I have to set 'somewhere' write access.. but I have not yet a clue where.07:23
sgo11Beldar, yeah, I should have them. But I only use my USB system. never mount my PC partitions.07:23
Beldarsgo11, And the grub boot menu in both mbr's07:23
sgo11eeee, there are two OS in the grub menu. that's why I want to get rid of grub screen. it's useless when I choose boot from usb.07:24
Beldargrub is not smart enouigh to know the difference07:24
sgo11Beldar, there are two grubs. one is installed in PC. another one is installed in usb.07:24
eeeesgo11: try grub-install /dev/sdb07:25
Beldarsgo11, Yeah, whay is that I never got your reasoniong07:25
Beldarwhy* reasoning*07:25
sgo11eeee, what will that do?07:25
eeeesgo11: reinstalled grub in the /dev/sdb07:26
eeeeor you could try to remove the timeout in the other OS07:26
eeeesgo11: when grub loads, is the USB OS the first in the list?07:26
TJ-sgo11: When the GRUB menu shows, do you see "Yisixue 13.11" or "Ubuntu" + "Ubuntu 高级选项" ?07:26
sgo11eeee, there are two grubs. if I don't boot from usb, the PC OS is at the first entry because that is PC's grub. if I choose boot from usb, the USB OS is at the first entry, because that is USB grub.07:27
TJ-sgo11: If you see "Yisixue 13.11" the PC is booting from GRUB on /dev/sda, if you see "Ubuntu" it is booting from the USB on /dev/sdb07:27
sgo11TJ-, I am sure it's booting from /dev/sdb.07:27
TJ-sgo11: So you see "Ubuntu" as the first menu entry?07:27
sgo11TJ-, that's right.07:27
TJ-sgo11: Good :) that avoids any confusion here.07:28
sgo11TJ-, I never mount my PC OS during my USB OS running session.07:28
sgo11PC partitions*07:28
TJ-sgo11: I came in after you described the original problem; can you summarise the issue for me?07:28
sgo11so, what should I do now?07:28
sgo11TJ-, I try to setup grub timeout to be 0, basically, I don't want the grub screen shown. (the USB grub)07:29
Beldarsgo11, The sda is booting using its grub files look at the /etc/default/grub leading to the grub.cfg on sda and sdb07:30
TJ-sgo11: OK ... and I've seen you mention "8s" ... I assume you mean the count-down timer showing 8 seconds at the point the menu displays?07:30
sgo11TJ-, yeah. I setup GRUB_HIDDEN_TIMEOUT=0 AND GRUB_TIMEOUT=0 in /etc/default/grub and then run update-grub. it doesn't work.07:30
bahamasanyone know about any issues with upstart on ubuntu 14.04? I have a file only with 'description', and when trying to run sudo service <my_service> status, I get 'description: not found'07:31
sgo11Beldar, what does that mean? sorry I don't get it. thanks.07:31
TJ-sgo11: when you generated the BootInfo output, was the booted OS Ubuntu from the USB device?07:31
sgo11TJ-, USB device. here, I never use PC OS. I never ever use PC OS.07:32
sgo11TJ-, I only use USB OS.07:32
Beldarsgo11, Your time out is 0 in the sdb grub.cfg but 10 in the sda grub.cfg you happen to have fixated on 8 it is a 10 second time out you are boot from the sda grub everything.07:32
Beldarbooting*07:32
Beldartwo identical grub setups including mbr's is a bit much for grub just running like that.07:34
TJ-sgo11: OK. Here's what is happening. BIOS offers you a boot device to choose from, you choose USB *but* the HDD is listed first. When BIOS loads GRUB's MBR from /dev/sdb and GRUB asks the BIOS for the first disk id, which is supposed to be /dev/sdb, BIOS instead tells it the first disk is /dev/sda, so the GRUB MBR on /dev/sdb reads core.img and grub.cfg from /dev/sda07:34
sgo11Beldar, do you mean if I uninstall PC OS, everything will be fine? I don't really get it. because I am using my USB grub. my USB grub at /dev/sdb will read my sda grub setup?07:34
TJ-Beldar: This is a well known BIOS bug07:34
BeldarTJ-, cool still it is just using the OS's grub is all.07:34
TJ-sgo11: So, the 8 seconds you see is in fact the remainder of the 10 second timeout you have set on /dev/sda07:34
TJ-Beldar: It is using both /dev/sdb and /dev/sda, due to the BIOS bug07:35
sgo11TJ-, ok. got it. so what should I do to avoid this bug without changing anything in /dev/sda ?07:35
sgo11TJ-, is that possible? thanks.07:35
BeldarTJ-, So the sdb mbr is booting the sda grub.07:36
TJ-sgo11: So, my suggestions are 2. First, try to change the permanent boot order in BIOS so the USB device is listed first - don't just select the USB device in the manual boot device chooser, and second, alter the timeout value on /dev/sda1/boot/grub/grub.cfg07:36
Beldarsda1's grub that is07:36
TJ-Beldar: precisely :)07:37
sgo11TJ-, Beldar ok, got it. thanks.07:37
BeldarI figured it was two grub instances, had not heard of the bug though07:37
eeeeTJ-: if GRUB is reading the grub.cfg of /dev/sda, then wouldn't the list be off?07:37
eeeei mean, the naming at least07:37
sgo11yeah, the list is different when I boot from different grubs.07:38
TJ-Beldar: To be technical... when GRUB starts it had to rely on BIOS services. It asks the BIOS for the first hard disk which has code 0x80 ... that is supposed to be the disk that boot began on (/dev/sdb) *but* in these buggy BIOSes the BIOS still returns the first disk in the system as 0x80 so GRUB continues loading itself from /dev/sda's core.img and then grub.cfg07:38
BeldarTJ-, Ah, that makes sense, heh and grub is so simple in general use.07:39
TJ-eeee: No... this is the fun part. Once GRUB's core.img has loaded it uses its own disk access code modules and knows the correct device to read the grub.cfg from, by the UUID of the file-system07:39
eeeeTJ-: yeah, but wouldn't the naming be off?07:39
eeeeMenu entry bla bla07:40
eeeenot the uuid getting mixed up07:40
TJ-BIOS > MBR of boot disk > MBR asks which is the boot disk? MBR reads core.img from the boot disk, which initialises GRUB's disk access modules, which searches for the UUID of the GRUB root file-system and loads the menu07:40
eeeeok, well if it's loading /dev/sda's grub, wouldn't it use the menu entry's there?07:41
TJ-eeee: Strangely, no, because if the way GRUB writes the core.img. The problem occurs in the early stages when the BIOS is returning the wrong drive info to GRUB. Because sgo11 has 2 almost identical installations its luck that it loads... otherwise we'd be dealing with a "grub rescue>" prompt07:44
TJ-sgo11: Are you able, in BIOS, to completely remove the HHD from the boot order temporarily, as a test? Booting from USB then should result in GRUB correctly using the configuration from grub.cfg on on the USB as it is now07:45
TJ-I wrote a diagnostic MBR for the syslinux project some years ago that exposes this bug. In that project we added a hot-key you can hold down if this happens, if the MBR detects that key-down, it ignores the BIOS and figures things out correctly07:47
Beldarclever07:47
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TJ-I suspect what has happened is, the sda install at some time did a save_env() of the timeout and so it's core.img reads that env and when the /dev/sdb1 grub.cfg is read and executed and does load_env() it is inheriting the sda value07:52
SpaceJamswhats up08:00
trung__hi, just started using tmux. Can I ask why are meta key bindings also use escape? For example I bound M-n to "create-window". It works when I press Alt-n which is intended, but also works when I do Escape-n which is really annoying08:13
somsiptrung__: one to ask in the tmux support channel. Though I use CTRL B as the main command binding08:14
trung__join #tmux08:15
geirhaM-n generates the sequence \en08:16
peter_hi08:18
greenmang0i am on ubuntu trusty on aws, running "ln -sv filename linkname" shows something like this in output -  _jolokia_ -> _jolokia-jvm-1.2.2-agent.jar_  - notice the underscores around the filenames, i wonder where do they come from08:20
greenmang0noticed similar output when downloading files with "wget"08:20
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somsipgreenmang0: can you put the output in pastebin08:22
geirhagreenmang0: the translators for your language has probably translated the ` and ' from the english version, to those _ characters08:22
geirhagreenmang0: try   export LC_ALL=en_US.UTF-8;   then do another ln -sv08:22
geirhaIf you feel those _ are wrong, you should report it as a bug against the coreutils package and/or try to contact the localization team for your language08:24
greenmang0geirha: export didn't help08:30
greenmang0somsip: http://paste.debian.net/114326/08:32
M^ttI see some strange listen on port behavior from apache2 with ipv6, for port 80 it seems to work as expected but for 443 its dropping a part of the address ?08:34
M^tthttp://pastebin.com/Qpduat5308:34
TJ-greenmang0: The "-" is, in Latin, the single-quote forward-tick08:34
legendHi there. Spell checker doesn't seem to be working on my ubuntu 12.04.1 LTS. There's no read underline or something whenever i type wrong.08:34
greenmang0TJ-: it's an underscore that I am getting08:34
legendI forgot to mention. It's in Libre Office.08:35
M^ttdid i make a config mistake ?, i did the ipv6 :443 conf the same as the ipv6 :80 conf which seems to work as i would expect08:35
TJ-greenmang0: I know, the codes are different. If you do "ln -sv jolokia-jvm-1.2.2-agent.jar jolokia | hexdump -C" do you get see the same codes as these:  http://paste.ubuntu.com/7987013/08:36
hateballlegend: what locale are you using08:37
TJ-greenmang0: notice how for my output the UTF-8 code is "e2 80 98"08:37
minatuhi all08:37
TJ-greenmang0: that was for the opening single-quote mark. The closing single quote mark has code "e2 80 99"08:38
hateballlegend: for spellcheck to work, make sure you have the hunspell packages for your locale installed08:39
TJ-greenmang0: And if I do "LC_ALL=C ln -sv jolokia-jvm-1.2.2-agent.jar jolokia" the output uses the ASCII single-quote character: 'jolokia' -> 'jolokia-jvm-1.2.2-agent.jar'08:40
legendhateball, how to check it ? I think it's English(India) under Tool > Language > For Selection in Libreoffice08:40
greenmang0TJ-: i am getting the exact same output with hexdump as yours, and yes, LC_ALL=C worked just like you stated08:41
hateballlegend: It doesnt seem like there are any hunspell packages for en-in08:43
legendhateball, It's still not working after installing hunspell packages08:43
minatuI'm trying to build a stable version of apache in Ubuntu, which most stable of apache in Ubuntu? Any suggest?08:45
hateballlegend: If you change the document language to en-Us ?08:45
legendhateball, After changing to en-US it's still not working.08:45
hateballlegend: hmmm08:46
legendhateball, Right now. I am chatting with you in Xchat. And in this xchat application Spell check is working fine. Does Libre Office uses a separate dictionary ?08:48
hateballlegend: I don't know what xchat uses actually08:48
hateballlegend: if you install the package myspell-en-gb, does that change anything?08:49
hateballA restart of LO is needed of course08:49
TJ-greenmang0: so, your native language character-set is interpreting the UTF codes as underscores instead of open and closing quotes that are in the English UTF-8 character sets08:50
legendhateball, i am showing you a log when i installed hunspell package from terminal. I hope you find something interesting here. Link:- http://paste.ubuntu.com/7987111/08:51
legendI will try that package you mentioned.08:51
hateballlegend: oh just the package hunspell is not enough, maybe I was unclear. apt-get install hunspell-en-us08:52
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jerem`hi guys08:53
jerem`for a particular needs, I have to use Ubuntu 8.04 but repos seems to be down08:54
somsip!eol | jerem`08:54
ubottujerem`: End-Of-Life is the time when security updates and support for an Ubuntu release stop, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Releases for more information. Looking to upgrade from an EOL release? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EOLUpgrades08:54
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jerem`somsip: maybe there are some unofficial repo somewhere ?08:55
legendhateball, Thanks. Spell check is working now! Not under en-IN but en-US.08:55
llutzjerem`: even if there exists an inofficial repo, would your trust those packages?08:56
somsipjerem`: maybe there is. But this is the official support channel, and 8.04 has been dead since May 9th 201308:56
geirhagreenmang0: Have you changed the terminal font?08:56
TJ-jerem`: Use http://old-releases.ubuntu.com08:58
jerem`llutz and somsip . I need to install a 8.04 to reproduce the client env08:58
jerem`TJ-: thank you08:58
somsipTJ-: thanks - I've not come across that before. I can fix a 10.10 issue I've got now...08:59
jerem`:)08:59
hateballlegend: Yes I guess there are no in libraries09:01
legendYeah09:02
mjsey89How can I mount a network drive on start up instead of having to manually re-mount every boot?09:04
Ben64!fstab | mjsey8909:06
ubottumjsey89: The /etc/fstab file indicates how drive partitions are to be used or otherwise integrated into the file system. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Fstab and http://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/fstab.html and !Partitions09:06
jerem`!sources.list | jerem`09:12
ubottujerem`, please see my private message09:12
SomeoneWeirddoes anyone know if I can configure ssh-agent to force asking for a password again for specific domains?09:18
SomeoneWeirdugh that sentence is structured badly, anyway it still kind of makes sense09:19
sikor_sxewhat is the preferred way to restart dhclient on ubuntu?=09:20
marc32Does anyone use a "Broadcom Corporation BCM43228 802.11a/b/g/n [14e4:4359]" wifi NIC with Ubuntu 14.04 LTS? Mine does not work09:20
jerem`guys, about sources.list can I just put the URL ?09:20
jerem`deb http://domain.example.net/ubuntu/hardy/09:21
bcvery!broadcom | marc3209:21
ubottumarc32: Help with Broadcom bcm43xx can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx09:21
cfhowlett!hardy|jerem`,09:21
ubottujerem`,: Ubuntu 8.04 LTS (Hardy Heron) was the eighth release of Ubuntu. Desktop support ended on May 12 2011, Server support ended on May 9th 2013. See http://ubottu.com/y/hardy for more details.09:21
mjsey89Ben64,  sorted ty09:21
jerem`cfhowlett: thank but that's not my problem09:21
marc32bcvery, yeah but its not that easy, seems to be a bug: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/broadcom-sta/+bug/134315109:22
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1343151 in broadcom-sta (Ubuntu) "no signal with BCM43228" [Undecided,Confirmed]09:22
somsipjerem`: are you wanting to update the packages?09:22
jerem`I'm not usual with sources.list09:22
jerem`from http://old-releases.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/ , how can I fill my sources.list for hardy please ?09:22
cfhowlett!eolupgrade|jerem`,09:23
ubottujerem`,: End-Of-Life is the time when security updates and support for an Ubuntu release stop, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Releases for more information. Looking to upgrade from an EOL release? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EOLUpgrades09:23
keyshi09:23
cfhowlettjerem`, details and how to ^09:23
jerem`don't want upgrade, just change my sources.list09:23
jerem`with this repo http://old-releases.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/09:24
Ben64jerem`: if you checked the link you'd see the answer09:24
somsipjerem`: for what reason?09:24
cynicallemonjerem`, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SourcesList09:24
aa1exhello!09:27
jerem`ok thank cynicallemon09:27
jerem`somsip: I need a 8.04 because I have to reproduce a client environment09:27
somsipjerem`: so will you want to update after changing your sources.list?09:27
aa1exI have a problem with elementary os, for some reason it is hiding some apps window. The process is there, it is  runngin but I get no window :( is it a know issue??09:28
somsipaa1ex: not supported here. Try something like #elementaryos09:29
cfhowlettaa1ex, elementary OS is not ubuntu = not supported here.  sorry09:29
jerem`somsip: no, I need to change the sources.list cause the official one give me 404 error. I guess the repo moved09:29
cfhowlettjerem`, the repo is dead - end of life and no longer supported ...09:30
aa1exbut it's almost the same and that chnnl is empty :( is what I described somthing know to happen in linux or is it a wired thing with my config?09:30
cfhowlettaa1ex, NOT the same NOT supported09:30
somsipjerem`: you're missing the point. Just as cfhowlett has said, but if you want to install individual packages, you can do that from downloading them from launchpad, which is a pain if you have more than a few09:30
aa1exI googled it but there was no luck09:30
cfhowlettaa1ex, sorry.  for ubuntu support - install ubuntu.09:30
somsipaa1ex: http://elementaryos.org/docs/irc-faq09:30
jerem`somsip: I need several packages for 8.04 , but the official repo isn't available so ..09:31
aa1exok what if it happened on ubuntu? :P lol thanks.09:31
cfhowlettaa1ex, ha ha no.09:32
somsipjerem`: so...download individual packages from launchpad if you want to go that way.09:32
jerem`or change the repositories to http://old-releases.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/09:32
F1skrHow do I check wheter a service is based on upstart or sysV? Ubuntu 14.04 server09:32
cfhowlettaa1ex, by the way, if you can't get the support you need from the OS you installed --- perhaps you should consider your options09:32
cfhowlett!server | F1skr,09:32
ubottuF1skr,: Ubuntu Server Edition is a release of Ubuntu designed especially for server environments, including a server specific !kernel and no !GUI. The install CD contains many server applications. Current !LTS version is !Trusty (Trusty Tahr 14.04) - More info: http://www.ubuntu.com/products/whatisubuntu/serveredition - Guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/12.04/serverguide/C/ - Support in #ubuntu-server09:32
darksiderhi all09:34
aa1exI konow but I love eOS, I've been using it for almost a year now and suddenly some windows desappear. I'll check the forums thnks09:34
linuxnoob89HI all, I am trying to run a tool on Xvfb (while I already have an xvfb running (Xvfb:4))  commands+output  http://shrib.com/2HUQi2cw09:35
darksiderI have a question: I have an atom based system with Ubuntu 32bit server. When ACPI is enabled in BIOS, the screen goes off during boot (the machine works fine in background, i can use it thru SSH. Any ideas?09:36
jerem`ok problem solved when adding old repositories09:36
jerem`in hardy09:37
sebastienyep09:38
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jerem`thank you again TJ-09:39
jerem`for giving me the http://old-releases.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/09:39
cynicallemonjerem`, yeah all releases are archived there09:39
jerem`yeah my hardy works fine now09:40
somsipjerem`: so what did you do?09:40
cynicallemonalmost makes me wantto install warty for a laugh09:40
Kira9204darksider: does it work with acpi off tho?09:50
darksiderKira9204: yes, it works fine09:50
stevenmHey I'm using the remote desktop sharing (vino) feature on 14.04 - when I VNC to it, it doesn't refresh - but mouse movements/keyboard works and such - any ideas?09:54
stevenmmy res is 5760x1080 which could have something to do with it?  (3 x 1080p screens horizontally)09:55
Kira9204darksider: then it would seem that there is no acpi support for your system in qestion. But since its an atom should`t it have like a 10w power consumpyion?09:56
darksiderKira9204: could be, however, before ubuntu I had a gentoo and it worked fine09:57
cynicallemonKira9204, yeah most of those atom boards are about 10w10:00
darksiderit could be even less than 10W, its an embedded system10:00
cynicallemondarksider, i have an intel atom board 32bit only and its never been good with a gui10:01
darksiderKira9204: im installing the system now, ran into a problem10:01
Kira9204ok10:02
darksidercynicallemon: its a server installation, so no GUI, I use it as a Plex media server10:02
Kira9204well, i would not make a big deal out of it10:02
eliudnir_is it normal to get an older package from the software center EVEN IF you use the drop-down to specify a newer package (I am getting Conky 1.8.1 even when I select 1.9.0 from the dropdown)10:02
cynicallemondarksider, cool, my atom is a server too and a pretty stable one too10:03
glcheethamHi guys, I have a postfix server that can send but not receive, emails sent to it get returned to sender with "Recipient not found", can anyone help?10:03
darksiderI have two external drives i need to mount at boot time, an usb HDD and a network drive. I modified fstab and all works well doing mount -a. However, when I boot I get usb diskdrive not ready or not present10:04
Kira9204stevenm: yeah, i remeber having similar problems before, but solved it by disabling desktop effects10:04
llutzglcheetham: check $mydestination/$mydomain and your usernames.10:04
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Kira9204surprisinhly i had more success with rdp servers to linux machines10:06
cynicallemonglcheetham, you may want to check your aliases file too10:06
glcheethamllutz, Sorry, but this is my first time setting up a mail server and I'm reasonably unfamiliar with the structure of the conf files. Which conf file should I edit?10:06
llutzglcheetham: /etc/postfix/main.cf is the main config for postfix. more elp in #postfix and on postfix.org in the documentation10:07
glcheethamok cheers guys on it now will report back10:08
cynicallemonglcheetham, did you look at this https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Postfix when setting it up?10:08
darksiderKira9204: any ideas? Could it be that the modules are not loaded?10:08
Kira9204darksider: im guessing that its trying to mout the drive before the USB drivers are active10:08
Kira9204darksider: you could try to have a timeout?10:08
Kira9204or add it to rc.local?10:09
Kira9204i have several sshfs drives for my server but i always ends up mounting them after the system has booted10:10
Kira9204so im somewhat in the same boat10:10
cynicallemonKira9204, yeah USB drives are slow to react at boot, best to mount them just after boot10:11
darksiderKira9204: i changed raiserfs to auto in fstab and it worked10:11
kdeuser56sometimes cp, rsync or btrfs send slow down the system considerably, if the files are being written to a slow disk ... why is that and what can be done about it?10:11
darksiderKira9204: i can't mount them later as i have daemons that load at boot time which rely on data on the USB disk10:12
stevenmKira9204, like which ones?10:13
darksiderKira9204: the system is installed on a 4GB compactflash so I keep it only for the system, not user data10:13
geirhaApart from buying a faster disk? :) ionice might help10:13
ElMaestrohi guys, brand new ubuntu user, how do i upgrade from 9.1 that I am now on to newer versions?10:13
somsip!eolupgrade | ElMaestro10:14
ubottuElMaestro: End-Of-Life is the time when security updates and support for an Ubuntu release stop, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Releases for more information. Looking to upgrade from an EOL release? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EOLUpgrades10:14
cfhowlettElMaestro, cleanest and easiest method is to download the ISO, make a boot USB and install10:14
cynicallemonagreed10:14
cynicallemonand back your data up10:14
cfhowlettthis ^^ 210:14
ElMaestrodoes the new installation mean i loose all my settings esp, wired network config10:15
cfhowlettElMaestro, they should reconfigure automatically with the new installation but note your settings in case you must do some manual work10:15
ElMaestrois it possible to upgrade it online?10:16
geirhaElMaestro: see the last link from ubottu. On a side note, there is no 9.1 version, you probably have 9.1010:17
Kira9204stevenm: xrdp, but it can still have problems with unity 3D, so i recommend that you use gnome session fallback10:18
geirha(which means it was released in year 2009, month 10)10:18
Kira9204stevenm: http://askubuntu.com/a/26027410:18
cfhowlettElMaestro, you'd need to upgrade to 10.04 > 12.04    ///10:18
mjsey89I'm running php and apache and trying to create a directory on a mounted drive using mkdir in php. However I get a permission denied error, even though I can view the folders already at that path10:18
ElMaestroam a bit scared to do complete installation, cause took me all of two days to configure my ethernet statically, and yes am on 9.10 currently10:18
stevenmKira9204, I'm actually using xrdp in combination with vino10:18
stevenmKira9204, do you mean flashback?10:18
Kira9204stevenm: flashback?10:19
cfhowlettElMaestro, then don't.  just because 9.10 has NO support or security updates ...10:19
cfhowlettElMaestro, one other option10:20
stevenmKira9204, yeah 14.04 doesn't come with fallback - but you can install flashback10:20
cfhowlettElMaestro, download the 10.04 alternative install disk.  set that ISO as software source.  upgrade.  then do it again for 12.0410:20
Kira9204stevenm: i was actually not aware, but then yes, flasshback and use metacity10:22
stevenmcool it's working :)10:22
Kira9204nice :D10:23
cynicallemonElMaestro, i would just get the latest iso like mention and back data up and reconfigure the network - might be easier10:24
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Kira9204mybit: php runs at its own user10:26
Kira9204*as10:26
stevenmIs it even possible to use unity with metacity? (i.e. non 3d mode) in 14.04?10:27
Kira9204you could solve the problem by adding php yo a common group that the folder is owned by10:27
ElMaestroi would like the upgrade to also be installed on HDD10:29
greenmang0geirha: was AFK, no I didn't change the font, LC_ALL=C fixed the problem10:30
Kira9204stevenm: accoring to omgubuntu there should be a an option http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2014/04/session-chooser-ubuntu-lightdm.jpg10:31
geirhagreenmang0: No, it doesn't fix anything.10:31
ElMaestrohow do i check my system data in ubuntu like one does in windows with "dxdiag" ?10:32
geirhagreenmang0: It just hides the symptom while introducing other problems10:32
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greenmang0geirha: hmm, what do you think the right fix is?10:32
greenmang0i am using iterm210:33
Kira9204ElMaestro: install hardinfo10:33
geirhagreenmang0: Could you try with uxterm or gnome-terminal or one of the other terminal emulators?10:33
Kira9204or use lspci10:34
geirhagreenmang0: I'm guessing your iterm2 uses a font that lacks the symbols for those unicode quote characters10:34
broglinI updated the kernel in ubuntu 12.04 today from the official repos to 3.13.0-32-generic and I am getting references to "kernel BUG" in my syslog, and my machine has frozen hard several times today. Is this kernel known to be faulty?10:34
ElMaestroam two days old in ubuntu, how do i install hardinfo?10:34
AbhijitElMaestro, sudo apt-get install hardinfo?10:34
cfhowlettElMaestro, in 9.10??"? can't.  no longer supported10:34
geirhagreenmang0: If so, the real fix is to switch to a monospaced font that does have those symbols10:34
Kira9204ElMaestro: that, or via software center10:34
Kira9204for a more user friendly approach10:35
greenmang0geirha: i am on mac, using default font -  monaco - which is monospaced, not sure if i can use gnome-term or uxterm on mac10:35
anton02is there anything wrong with running live ubuntu off a usb drive regularly?10:35
broglingreenmang0: you can change the font10:35
cfhowlettanton02, not wrong - just inefficient10:36
anton02cfhowlett: why inefficient?10:36
Kira9204w8,, iw ElMaestro using 9.10??10:36
ElMaestro"couldnt find package hardinfo"10:36
fribi can't get bluetooth to work in 14.04 LTS can anyone help pls? thx10:36
cynicallemonanton02, no problem at all10:36
broglinfricking firefox keeps crashing :-(10:36
fribit used to work in ubuntu 12 though -- is it broken now?10:36
cfhowlettElMaestro, and you won't .  the 9.10 repos are no more.  9.10 is unsupported.10:37
Kira9204ElMaestro: what version are you on?10:37
cynicallemonanton02, usb drive is slower than a spinning hard drive or SSD10:37
ElMaestronow i get it, that y u r saying i first upgrade to 10.0410:37
cfhowlettElMaestro, note: 10.04 is also end of life.  12.04 is still active10:38
ElMaestro9.1010:38
Kira9204hardinfo is present in 10.04, altho oäim not sure if the repository is still avaiöable10:38
greenmang0geirha: switched to Ubuntu Mono, didn't help10:38
glcheethamHi again, I still can't figure out why my mail server will send but not receieve, ubuntu 14.04/postfix/dovecot10:38
anton02cynicallemon: well how do i load OS into RAM?10:38
cynicallemonElMaestro, forget upgrading if your 9.10 install is two days old, just go and install 14.0410:38
Kira9204ElMaestro: you should really consider upgrading to 14.0410:39
glcheethamI can however send mail to addresses on the same domain as the server10:39
stevenmKira9204, yeah you get that after you install it10:39
ElMaestroIts what I want to do, but am scared of having to loose my ethernet network config, its taken me 2 days just to get static IPs functional10:40
anton02ElMaestro: you mean lose10:40
geirhagreenmang0: Hm. Very odd.10:40
ElMaestroyes, lose10:40
glcheethamElMaestro, static ips are reasonably easy to set up and you will leave yourself open to security vulns by not upgrading10:41
anton02an example of a setence with 'loose': i have loose shoe laces10:41
mishravikasHi everyone am using ubuntu 12.04 and it keeps on freezing frequently, can anyone help me out in finding the problem please?10:41
glcheethammishravikas: what graphics drivers are you using, if any? What card do you have?10:41
ElMaestrohad tried following a tutorial which ended up "ifupdown(eth0) device not managed" on sys tray10:42
Ben64ElMaestro: install 14.04, then come back here for instructions on static ips or whatever else you want to do10:43
ElMaestrobut how will I access internet when I will not know how to configure network connections?10:43
glcheethamElMaestro: Ubuntu 14.04 has gui tools10:44
cynicallemonElMaestro, network manager10:44
Ben64it should work with a dynamic ip10:44
cfhowlettElMaestro, as I suggested to you previously: note your current settings10:44
ElMaestroam upgrading to 10.04 first as cfhwolett suggested10:45
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glcheethamElMaestro: A fresh install is a better idea.10:45
geirhagreenmang0: If you copy/paste the following character into your iterm2, does it show up as _ still?  -->  ‘  <--10:46
mishravikasglcheetham: sorry I got disconnected did you get my last msg?10:46
intxhehe np10:46
glcheethammishravikas: no, could you send it again?10:46
mishravikasglcheetham: It shows "AMD Radeon HD 8600M Series " under graphics tab in system details10:46
Ben64ElMaestro: didn't you say you just installed? 2 days ago?10:47
glcheethammishravikas: and have you installed graphics card drivers yet?10:47
ElMaestroyes, and just got the network config this morning!!10:47
Ben64ElMaestro: then don't bother with upgrading. install 14.0410:48
geirhagreenmang0: may be the terminal emulator and the shell on ubuntu are using different encodings10:48
ElMaestromy 9.10 is side by side with windows 7, is this a factor?10:48
Ben64no10:49
mishravikasglcheetham: under additional drivers I can see this https://i.imgur.com/hCPAwXM.png does it mean I have the drivers?10:49
cfhowlett!dualboot| ElMaestro10:50
ubottuElMaestro: Dual boot instructions: x86/AMD64: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DualBoot/Windows - Macs: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MacBookPro https://help.ubuntu.com/community/YabootConfigurationForMacintoshPowerPCsDualBoot10:50
glcheethammishravikas: yes that means you have the drivers, but you are using the experimental ones. Can you remove them and try installing one that isn't experimental? If not, jsut install the one you have now again and we'll try to see if something else is making your system lag10:51
cynicallemonElMaestro, you can chose what partition ubuntu gets installed onto or have a side by side install with another OS10:51
mishravikasglcheetham: how do I remove this one and install the one which is not experimental?10:51
glcheethammishravikas: click remove and install it again10:52
mishravikasglcheetham: ok am on it10:53
ni891667hiii10:53
cynicallemonglcheetham, with your postfix problem, have you opened a port on your firewall to accept smtp traffic?10:53
cfhowlettElMaestro, at the partitioning stage: take your time, read carefully and manually configure the installation. most importantly, select your current 9.10 partition as the target for your 10.04 OS10:53
darksiderdoes anyone know how to enable root login thru SSH in ubuntu 14?10:53
ElMaestroyes, <cfhowlett>, thats what i will do10:54
cynicallemondarksider, dont allow root login10:54
geirhadarksider: set up host based authentication10:54
ElMaestrowhile installing this? what do i set as mount points for my current Win7 partition?10:55
cfhowlettElMaestro, WHOA!10:55
ObrienDaveElMaestro, DONT touch those10:55
cfhowlettElMaestro, do NOT TOUCH that windows stuff.  don't mount, don't look at ti10:55
mishravikas_glcheetham: I remove it and now I have option to activate it, but how do I install a new driver and not just activate this one?10:55
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glcheethamcynicallemon: Yeah my router has all the ports I need open10:56
cfhowlettElMaestro, I explicitly told you: 9.10 ubuntu partition is the target for 10.04 ubuntu partition10:56
darksidercynicallemon: the computer is not accessible from outside the LAN10:56
gewoonmhi all, on my private network I get different fingerprints for my SSH server. Any clues?10:56
darksiderso no real risk10:56
ElMaestrook, got it10:57
glcheethammishravikas_: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/AMD10:57
darksiderdo you guys know how to mount drives on first access in fstab?10:58
darksideri get errors mounting them at boot time10:58
darksiderbut no problem doing it after login10:58
ElMaestrothe iso has finished installing, do i have to burn to CD or can i mount it virtually or something?10:59
Ben64cfhowlett: why are you suggesting 10.04? that is no longer supported either10:59
cfhowlettBen64, I know, trying to get him to 12.04 from 9.1010:59
Ben64why not just install 14.04 and be good until 201911:00
cfhowlettElMaestro, the image file is the software source.  use the link I sent you earlier11:00
cfhowlettBen64, cuz he's scared to lose his network ... and he likes pain.  We did suggest it, but ...11:00
Ben64this isn't going to end well11:01
cynicallemonBen64, it might but the odds are against it11:01
Ben64its a fresh 9.10 install. trash that and install 14.04 for best results. static ip is not required for accessing just about any internet11:02
Ben64plus that is easily configurable using graphical tools after installation11:02
cfhowlettBen64, ElMaestro note the above.  your choice.11:02
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cynicallemon10.04 > 12.04 > 14.04 - 3x more trouble and ways to fail11:03
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Kira9204ElMaestro: get 14.04 and come back11:04
Kira9204you have the network manager during the installation just as you have now11:05
Kira9204note your setting, and them replicate them11:05
gewoonmin my private network, Cyberduck gives a fingerprint ending in :63 over SFTP, while both normal SSH and running "ssh-keygen -lf" give back a fingerprint ending in :6611:06
cynicallemonalso no guarantee that settings in 9.10 will make it to 14.04 ok11:06
Kira9204i always do clean installt11:06
Kira9204*installs11:07
* cfhowlett thinks this will be a valuable learning experience11:08
fribdoes anyone know how to fix bluetooth in ubuntu 14.04?11:18
JeSauceHey guys, I'm using ubuntu 12.04, im getting libudev.so.1 missing message, any idea how can I install it?11:19
thysso the security has been breached on my commercial webserver found a bunch of scriptkiddy stuff in a old joomla site which had to liberal permission. He uploaded the stuff two days ago and seemed to aim for elevating privileges. They files are deleted and the permissions are set lower @644. What else should I look for?11:20
cfhowlett!server| tjus11:21
ubottutjus: Ubuntu Server Edition is a release of Ubuntu designed especially for server environments, including a server specific !kernel and no !GUI. The install CD contains many server applications. Current !LTS version is !Trusty (Trusty Tahr 14.04) - More info: http://www.ubuntu.com/products/whatisubuntu/serveredition - Guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/12.04/serverguide/C/ - Support in #ubuntu-server11:21
thysso the security has been breached on my commercial webserver found a bunch of scriptkiddy stuff in a old joomla site which had to liberal permission. He uploaded the stuff two days ago and seemed to aim for elevating privileges. They files are deleted and the permissions are set lower @644. What else should I look for?11:21
cfhowlettthys, ask in#ubuntu-server11:22
cfhowlettor ##linux11:22
thysoh sorry, I did not mean to post twice. I'm not thinking straight11:22
Kira9204JeSauce: do you have a libudev.so.0 or just .so?11:22
JeSauceKira9204: I've a libudev.so.011:23
JeSaucebut no libudev.so.111:23
Kira9204JeSauce: ok, then symlink 0 to or or copy it11:23
Kira9204sudo ln -sf /lib/$(arch)-linux-gnu/libudev.so.1 /lib/$(arch)-linux-gnu/libudev.so.011:23
zagazahi guys, what other priveleges can I give a user except for ALL=(ALL:ALL) ALL ? is there any way I can restrict a user to only be able to access a folder and its subdirs?11:23
Kira9204oh w8 that might be the other way around11:24
JeSauceKira9204: you mean symlink libudev.so.0 to libudev.so.111:24
Kira9204JeSauce: yes11:24
Kira9204that should solve it11:24
JeSauceKira9204: tried it, it keeps throwing exceptions when I try to run popcorntime11:24
JeSauceKira9204: its kind of required for new release of popcorntime11:25
Kira9204JeSauce: there are no packuages for it? there should be a guide11:25
Kira9204JeSauce: what is it complaining about after the symlinkm11:26
Dickensgood AM everyone..11:26
JeSauceKira9204: No, all articles are about missing libudev.so.0 and in my case its the otherway, I've libudev.so.1 missin11:26
JeSaucemissing*11:27
Dickensdoes Ubuntu Desktop have a built in dhcp server it uses for Inernet Connection sharing, or do I need to set up dhcpd and iptables and all that jazz11:27
Kira9204DementedShaman: it has a built in one11:27
Dickensi'm assuming you mean Dickens?11:28
adminewb(trusty/unity) is there a term for keeping multiple unity desktops active at once for different logins? where you can switch between, using Ctrl-Alt-Fx for 7<=x<=9 or so... ?11:28
mishravikasglcheetham: am installing this http://support.amd.com/ja-jp/kb-articles/Pages/latest-linux-beta-driver.aspx  is this the right one?11:28
JeSauceKira9204: woah! tried it again now it worked11:28
JeSaucewoohoo11:28
JeSaucethanks alot Kira920411:28
Kira9204no prob :D11:28
gewoonmSo I guess no SSH-experts here? :)11:28
Dickenskira9204: i'm assuming that answer was directed at me?11:29
Dickensgewoonm I know how to use SSH but not sure i'd be called an "expert" what issue are you having?11:29
Kira9204Dickens: just set he connection to shared and whola, cobnectint computers will get ips autimatically11:30
DickensKira9204: Do you know how many are in it's DHCP pool?11:30
gewoonmhi Dickens, thanks for thinking with me! The problem is I get different fingerprints from my Ubuntu server11:30
Dickensyour ubuntu server has fingers?11:30
Dickenso_O11:30
gewoonmwith Cyberduck it ends in :63, with SSH-command in terminal it ends in :6611:30
zagazaor better yet, how do I set a home directory for a user and make sure they cannot "go back" ?11:31
gewoonmDickens :) SSH-fingerprints11:31
Dickensi know sorry just kidding, i'm thinking11:31
juulCan anyone tell me why I can't seem to install the i386 version of libraries on my amd64 system? Here's what happens when I try: http://pastebin.com/iw08UFv411:31
Kira9204Dickens: not im my head, but if you connect one computer and take the subnetmask you can easily calculate it11:31
juulubuntu 14.0411:32
Dickensgewoonm, I am inclined to believe that the SSH Fingerprint is client specific and not machine specific but i cant be positive11:32
Kira9204Dickens: http://www.subnet-calculator.com/11:32
Dickensthanks kira920411:32
DickensI will take a look11:32
adminewbmy question is about the unity desktop which is suspended, while another one is active on-screen: is it a config default to make all nonactive unity desktops have their apps be unable to run? is there a way to reconfig to have them run normally, even though their windows can't appear on screen until the desktop is reactivated?11:32
juulgewoonm: what is the problem?11:32
gewoonmDickens, I thought the fingerprints are to identify the server, so they should be server-specific11:33
gewoonmjuul: The problem is I get different fingerprints from my Ubuntu server when connecting with different applications11:33
Dickensgewoonm, I believe it's both11:33
gewoonmjuul: with Cyberduck it ends in :63, with SSH-command in terminal it ends in :6611:33
Kira9204genial: SSH keys are user specific11:34
Dickensah11:34
Dickensperhaps cyberduck is running as a different user?11:34
Dickensi dunno.. shot in the dark11:35
Dickensgewoonm, does it prevent you from connecting somehow?11:35
Kira9204Dickens: you cab always look with htop11:35
gewoonmDickens: I'd like to know first if it's a problem11:35
Kira9204basically a terminal task manager11:35
Dickensyea you can... or rather gewoonm can11:36
gewoonmDickens: before continuing11:36
adminewbmaybe I best rephrase: is it a unity config default to make all nonactive desktops' apps be unable to run? is there a way to reconfig to have them run normally, even though their windows can't appear on screen atm?11:36
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Dickensummm i dont see how it would be a problem gewoonm11:36
juulgewoonm: this can happen if one program decides to use one type of encryption and the other uses another type11:36
Dickensit's really just an ID11:36
juulgewoonm: the server generally has several keys, e.g. one DSA key, one RSA key and one ECDSA key11:36
backSlasherI'm looking to chmod +i a currently mounted directory, but using mount --bind doesn't work11:37
Dickensdoesnt mean anything unless you are specifically looking to allow only certain fingerprints11:37
gewoonmDickens: yeah, but when connecting remotely, I want to make sure I connect to my own machine, not with MITM (maybe bing paranoid here)11:37
gewoonmjuul: I tried "for k in /etc/ssh/ssh_host*.pub; do ssh-keygen -lf "$k"; done" none list the appropriate fingerprint11:37
Dickenspretty paranoid it sounds lol...11:37
juulyeah, having a different fingerprint from what you expect is very concerning11:37
gewoonmDickens, Kira9204: what was that about htop?11:38
Dickensto see if a program is running as a different user gewoonm11:38
Dickensperhaps cyberduck has it's own local user or something11:38
juulgewoonm: none match cyberduck or none match ssh command's fingerprint?11:38
Dickensi think the fingerprint you'rew seeing is the client end and not server end11:39
gewoonmjuul: one of them (the RSA one) is matching the ssh-terminal-command fingerprint. Cyberduck doesn't match with any11:39
Dickensi.e. cyberduck's fingerprint (or whatever user it's running as), but I could be wrong11:39
Dickensthats cuz it has it's own11:39
Kira9204gewoonm: you can use it to watch wich user owns what process11:39
gewoonmKira9204, Dickens: I checked, I'm the owner of all processes11:40
juulgewoonm: it could simply be that cyberduck uses sha-1 while ssh uses md511:41
juulgewoonm: or the other way around11:41
Dickensalso perhaps cyberduck isnt using the same encryption11:41
Dickensyou could set your server to only allow RSA fingerprints or something11:41
Dickensso you cant connect any other way11:41
juulgewoonm: for the fingerprinting11:41
gewoonmjuul, Dickens: how do I find out the sha-1 or md5 version of the fingerprint?11:42
adminewbwhen one runs a terminal emulator window with multiple shells/tabs, it would be considered abnormal if only the shell processes for the tab currently on-screen were allowed to run... yes? it appears that unity desktops behave abnormally, in that sense11:42
adminewbam I making sense?11:43
Dickensgewoonm, i think if it's a 32byte key it's standard md511:44
greenmang0geirha: nope, it shows up as a question mark11:44
juulgewoonm: sha1sum <filename> and md5sum <filename>11:44
Dickensif it's 40bytes it's SHA111:44
Dickenscould be wrong tho11:45
geirhagreenmang0: then you have a mismatch between the terminal emulator's (iterm2) encoding and the shell's11:45
gewoonmjuul: but what should I checksum? The id_rsa key?11:45
geirhagreenmang0: make sure iterm2 uses utf811:45
greenmang0geirha: iterm's encoding is set to UTF811:45
juulgewoonm: /etc/ssh/ssh_host* on the server11:46
greenmang0how do I check shell's encoding?11:46
juulthe pub keys11:46
geirharun locale11:46
gewoonmjuul: they both give different answers, but nothing "familiar", nothing that looks like a fingerprint11:46
Dickensi'm looking stuff up11:47
juulgewoonm: they won't include the colon separators but otherwise they should be the same11:47
greenmang0geirha: locale on trusty host - http://paste.ubuntu.com/7988181/11:47
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Dickensgewoonm can you share the keys for each client for me?11:48
Dickensas well as the server key11:48
adminewbI must be speaking Greek, without knowing it11:49
Dickensthere's a SHA1 to MD5 converter and vice versa and I'm curious to see if they translate to the same11:49
juulgewoonm: nevermind, i'm wrong11:49
Dickensadminewb, we're helping other ppl please hold11:49
adminewbk11:49
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Dickensadminewb, not sure what your question is?11:50
juulgewoonm: but is the cyberduck fingerprint 32 or 40 bytes?11:50
Dickensare you saying you can only run a program when the terminal is open?11:50
adminewbDickens, that may be because I'm misinterpreting what's happening11:50
Dickenspossibly i dunno11:51
Dickenscant really understand the question lol11:51
geirhagreenmang0: And there's nothing else involved inbetween? like tmux or screen?11:51
adminewbto appearances though, it seems that unity will allow only processes from the desktop on screen to run11:51
adminewbdesktops on other virtual graphical terminals behave like they're in suspended animation11:51
Dickensi dont think that is true11:51
adminewbok11:52
Dickensperhaps it's not drawing the changes?11:52
Dickenslike i can download torrent sin the background while IRCing11:52
Dickensand i have firefox running in background too and it still gets my emails11:52
Dickensso i can see it's actually doing something11:52
adminewbwell I have multiple unity desktops going at once, different logins11:52
Dickensah so you're running each process as a different user?11:53
geirhagreenmang0: Oh and if you open a new iterm and run locale, does your OSX system also have utf-8 set?11:53
greenmang0geirha: oh, yeah, tmux11:53
gewoonmjuul, Dickens: I can share the fingerprints with no issues, right?11:53
adminewbeach desktop is a different user11:53
Dickensgewoonm what do you mean?11:53
Dickensgewoonm you can paste it here without issue... sure11:53
Dickensor rather pastebin11:53
Dickenswe cant use your keys since they are randomly generated11:53
adminewbone desktop is primarily to run a wine/win32 app on a wine virtual desktop which takes up full screen11:54
greenmang0geirha: http://paste.ubuntu.com/7988217/11:54
gewoonmjuul, Dickens: check: serverkey is: c7:af:49:ef:f7:9e:a7:64:75:fd:39:dd:17:50:cd:66       Cyberduck claims it is: 61:10:f2:34:c5:7b:ea:34:7e:a7:a0:44:a4:c9:68:6311:54
Dickensadminewb i've never done that before so I dont know, but I think it should be able to run11:54
adminewbok Dickens11:54
Dickensgewoonm i'll check11:54
adminewbit may be some quirk of how a certain wine app behaves while it's on an off-screen unity desktop11:54
gewoonmjuul, Dickens: since I use passwordless login, I also checked if maybe Cyberduck reports the fingerprint of my own RSA-key, but no. That has a completely different fingerprint.11:55
geirhagreenmang0: LC_CTYPE=C  that might cause some conflict11:55
adminewbthanks for the info11:56
Rohan_mhow to pass argument to nmap ?11:56
darksiderquestion: I have a service running at startup, i used: update-rc.d -f plexmediaserver remove, but it still tries to start it11:56
darksiderany ideas?11:56
Rohan_mhow to pass argument to nmap ? through shell script11:57
juulgewoonm: I think it is likely that cyberduck is miscalculating11:58
gewoonmjuul: that's weird11:59
Dickensgewoonm, check out https://forums.vandyke.com/showthread.php?t=1077312:00
Dickensit's a script that will output sha1 and md5 of the ssh_host_rsa_key.pub12:01
juulgewoonm: are you connecting from the same computer?12:01
Dickensseems really simple to copy and paste in to gedit or whatever editor you want and run it12:01
Dickensjust a shell script12:01
greenmang0geirha: what should I set it to? en_US.UTF-8 ?12:01
Dickensjuul he is12:02
Dickensi just realized my sha1 to md5 caluclator doesnt really work the way i thought12:02
juulgewoonm: with the two pieces of software? and if not, are the two pieces of software using the same internet connection? could one be using IPv4 and another IPv6? if so, could the DNS entries for IPv4 and IPv6 be different for the server? what if you enter the IPv4 address instead of the hostname when connceting?12:02
Dickensit can only take a string in plaintext and convert it to those12:03
geirhagreenmang0: Yes, all of them should be that in my opinion (apart from LC_ALL)12:03
Dickensjuul: he's using the same machine and same user account12:03
greenmang0geirha: what should be the value for LC_ALL?12:03
Dickensjuul, just different clients on the same machine12:03
juulstill, one client may not support ipv6 and the other may prefer it12:04
gewoonmjuul, Dickens: I tried the shell script, still no matching strings12:04
geirhagreenmang0: It should be unset12:05
Dickensstrange12:05
greenmang0okay12:05
Dickensi'm at a loss then lol12:05
Dickensi doint really know much about the keys i must admit12:05
gewoonmjuul: I'm on a local network, entering a 'normal' ip-address12:05
gewoonmjuul: where normal is ipv412:05
Dickensi always thought the keys were either machine specific or user specific, so I dont think each client has a different one but perhaps12:05
geirhagreenmang0: You may occationally want to use LC_ALL to force all values to the same locale temporarily, but it should not be set by default.  Just setting LANG=en_US.UTF-8 should suffice.12:05
juulgewoonm: ok, my bet is on cyberduck mis-implementing the fingerprint calculation. i would open a bug with them12:06
Dickensgewoonm, if the server key is always the same then you'll know if they are connecting to the right server12:06
greenmang0geirha: the problem i see is only on that particular system, on other systems things are fine12:06
Dickensperhaps create a script that displays the server fingerprint when you login12:07
geirhagreenmang0: possibly it's the only system where such commands are localized12:08
gewoonmjuul, Dickens: thanks. I'll file a bug report12:08
greenmang0geirha: hmm12:08
greenmang0geirha: is there any such change in trusty you know of?12:09
gewoonmDickens: from a paranoid standpoint, that wouldn't work. If the fingerprints don't match, you could have a MITM-attack, so then anything that is displayed back to you could be a lie12:09
adminewbjust noticed that precise 12.04.5 came out; looks like a departure from 12.04.4 in how it's packaged as ISO images and so forth12:09
greenmang0cause other system i am testing this on is running precise12:09
adminewbor maybe I'm confused12:10
cfhowlettadminewb, "departure"??? doubtful that it'll be that significantly differently12:10
geirhagreenmang0: Works fine for me. I also ssh from OSX to Ubuntu often, though I use uxterm, not iterm (can't figure out how to configure iterm to my needs)12:11
adminewbwell it maybe be partway through the publishing scripts, idk12:11
geirhaI use Xquartz as X server, and uxterm I installed via macports12:11
greenmang0geirha: i also have xquartz, will give a uxterm try, thanks for all the help :)12:12
adminewbonly the *-dvd-<arch> iso's appear, nothing like a *-desktop or *-alternate12:13
adminewbthat's for the cdimage server12:14
darksideri feel ignored, anyone with ubuntu booting experince, willling to give me an advice? :)12:14
cfhowlett!patience|darksider,12:15
ubottudarksider,: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. While you wait, try searching https://help.ubuntu.com or http://ubuntuforums.org or http://askubuntu.com/12:15
darksidercfhowlett: i havent repeated the question quickly, it was 30 mins ago, and i think somebody with average ubuntu experience could give me a hand :). However, thanks for the advice ;)12:17
cfhowlettdarksider, 30 minutes? restate the details please for the new arrivals.  we can only scroll back so far ...12:18
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zagazahow do I change the password for another user? passwd username doesnt work12:20
zagazaor rather, passwd username changes the password for the logged in user for me12:20
cfhowlettzagaza, sudo passwd username12:20
zagazatried that as well12:20
geirhazagaza: well it's the right answer, so try it again12:21
cfhowlettzagaza, Users and Groups         - advanced settings12:21
darksidercfhowlett: true. I'll briefly explain my problem: I have Ubuntu 14 server running. I installed PlexMediaServer (PMS) and everything works fine. However, I want to move the PMS metadata folder to an USDB harddrive due to space limitations on internal HDD. When I set the metadata folder to the usb HDD, PMS crashes at system bootup.12:21
zagazacfhowlett, I am doing it through command line, dont have gui access12:21
cfhowlettdarksider, server?  #ubuntu-server might be better suited to your query12:22
zagazanvm it worked, seems I just couldn't access my ftp with that pw for some reason12:22
cfhowlettdarksider, sorry.  everything I know about PMS would be - unhelpful - in this context12:22
darksidercfhowlett: its just a normal ubuntu with no GUI :).12:23
darksidercfhowlett: I'm suspecting that the external HDD might not be accessible when the service starts, hence it crashes12:24
cfhowlettdarksider, I've no PMS experience12:24
darksidercfhowlett: is there a way to stop the service from starting at boot time and start it manually?12:25
ubunti can not uninstall libreoffice base12:25
cfhowlettdarksider, yes, but I don't know where/how ... ask THAT exact question12:26
cfhowlett!details |ubunt,12:26
ubottuubunt,: Please elaborate; your question or issue may not seem clear or detailed enough for people to help you. Please give more detailed information, errors, steps, and possibly configuration files (use the !pastebin to avoid flooding the channel)12:26
darksidertried sudo update-rc.d -f plexmediaserver remove12:26
darksiderbut service still tries to start and crashes in flames12:27
darksider:)12:27
ubunthow i can to uninstall libreoffice base?12:27
cfhowlettubunt sudo apt--get purge libreoffice-base12:28
ObrienDavesudo apt-get purge libreoffice-base12:28
ubunterror -> E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)12:32
ubuntI write sudo apt-get purge libreoffice-base and then output error -> E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)12:34
SP33Dcan some one tell me how to set server hostnames realy right?12:38
SP33Di think i do something wrong sometimes it works but i now whant to fix that12:38
cfhowlett!server | SP33D12:39
ubottuSP33D: Ubuntu Server Edition is a release of Ubuntu designed especially for server environments, including a server specific !kernel and no !GUI. The install CD contains many server applications. Current !LTS version is !Trusty (Trusty Tahr 14.04) - More info: http://www.ubuntu.com/products/whatisubuntu/serveredition - Guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/12.04/serverguide/C/ - Support in #ubuntu-server12:39
SP33Dwhen a server runs for example on go.com and responds on that host whats its hostname its go?12:39
SP33Dwhere do i set the .com12:39
SP33Dor is the hostname always the full hostname?12:39
SP33Dfor example if i have 3 servers go.com s1.go.com s2.go.com s3.go.com12:41
cfhowlettSP33D, most of the server users are in the server channel ...12:42
SP33Dok12:42
SP33Dthen asking other question how to set own hostname right12:42
SP33Dfor example this box12:42
TeraJLi've installed pipelight, but the page i'm trying the login is not working (its working on both windows and mac with same login and password), does anyone have an idea of something to try? i've tried "data tamper"  on firefox but when i click on login i get nothing, i've tried to do login on mac and copy silverlight data files but it did not worked as well.. and wireshark i'm not very good with it12:43
sakamopIf you just want to set hostname, you need to change /etc/hosts and etc/hostname then reboot. If you need to your name resolution etc, I have no idea.12:44
SP33Dgot it12:44
SP33Dit gets set with domainname command12:44
SP33Dso thats the answer hostname = name of the single box and the domain then via  domainname so example .tld12:45
Rohan_mi need help with nmap12:45
Rohan_mAny nmap expert here ?12:46
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hateball!anyone12:46
hateball...12:46
hateball!ask | Rohan_m12:47
ubottuRohan_m: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience12:47
Tharuler03Is anyone running Ubuntu 14.04 in Hyper V Gen 2?12:49
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typ_i've had nothing but bad experiences with hyper-v and linux guests12:55
Tharuler03Ok thanks. I was going to try it out but i think i'll go with Virtual Box12:56
Guest58558tt12:58
darksiderhow can i load a module at startup?12:58
darksiderinstead of manually modprobe?12:59
mistawrighthi guys i need some help. i am trying to build a kernel and add support for fbtft to it. I have checked out the kernel sources and added the drivers to my kernel/drivers/video folder. I have also ran the commands to add it to the make file etc. however when i do make menuconfig i do not see it in the options. Can anyone help with this?12:59
cfhowlett!kernel | mista13:00
ubottumista: The core of Ubuntu is the Linux kernel: see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel - You shouldn't have to compile your own, and if you need to troubleshoot issues, you can try a !Mainline kernel instead, but if you insist, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel/Compile (see also !Stages)13:00
adminewbdarksider, try "man modprobe.d"13:00
mistawrightthe compiling of the kernel is not the issue. the driver that i added to kconfig not showing up in menuconfig  is the issue13:01
typ_Tharuler03: i would advise that13:02
darksideradminewb: thanks, just added it to /etc/modules13:02
darksider:)13:02
typ_hyper-v has like 1-2 linux distris wich are supported for their integration service13:02
adminewbwelcome13:02
typ_go with vmware or virtualbox or kvm even13:03
typ_but i guess you have a windows host13:03
typ_virtualbox has no clustering13:03
yecril71plWhy does the file owner have a trailing slash in Nautilus?13:03
leliviakidwhat's the usual cpu usage? i mean if i'm just using firefox13:04
yecril71plWhy does the file owner have a trailing hyphen in Nautilus?13:04
elmaestrohow can i mute onboard speaker if am using external speakers as output?13:05
Tharuler03Yes i do, running Windows 8.1. But will give VMware a go now i'm thinking, thanks13:05
marc32does anyone use a "Broadcom Corporation BCM43228 802.11a/b/g/n [14e4:4359]" under Ubuntu 14.04 LTS?13:07
typ_Tharuler03: not that much "supported" linux guests for vmware either13:08
typ_but i have not found a guest that couldn't run the integration service13:08
typ_but i mostly run debian flavoured anyway13:08
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Tharuler03ok cool, thanks :)13:09
sijo_Hi - how can I assign static IP for a VMware Virtual Machine, after installing Ubuntu 12.04 in it..?13:12
hateballmarc32: Are you taking a poll, or do you have a support question?13:13
svipHow do I configure networking to request a specific IP without creating another interface?13:13
svipI can get it to lock onto my IP, but then it creates eth0:0 in addition to eth0, which uses the leased IP by the DHCP server.13:13
svipI don't want two IPs.13:13
adminewbelmaestro, is this relevant? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=97068813:16
marc32hateball, I'm trying to debug an issue with a BCM43228. im looking for someone with a similar problem.13:16
hateballmarc32: Alright13:16
Dickensin unity/nautilus how do I get the default directory view to be in list format... it seems i have to change it for every folder13:19
Dickensi want to apply it to all folders tho13:19
Dickensalso is there a way to show "hidden" files in the GUI like in windows13:19
DickensI know i can run ls as sudo and see them but i'm wondering if the GUI can as well13:20
rasputinhello everybody13:20
rasputinmor13:21
rasputino13:21
debsanDickens, ctrl+h for hidden files13:21
rasputinonks suomesta ketään13:21
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rasputinhello13:21
Dickensdebsan can it be default to show hidden files or do i need to use that everytime?13:21
elmaestrohow do i adjust screen resolution?13:24
debsanDickens, will be permanent. To toogle off you need to press ctrl+h again13:25
playbizq13:27
sviphttp://www.tecmint.com/ip-command-examples/ << This static solution isn't working for me.13:32
svipIt still just uses the IP provided by the DHCP server.13:32
jattsudo apt-get update says:13:32
jattW: GPG error: http://de.archive.ubuntu.com trusty-updates Release: The following signatures were invalid: BADSIG 40976EAF437D05B5 Ubuntu Archive Automatic Signing Key <ftpmaster@ubuntu.com>13:32
jattshould I worry?13:32
cfhowlettjatt, common error.  usually self-correcting after the package maintainer updates it. wait a week or 213:34
juuljatt: it could be someone trying something malicious, but it is more likely someone doing something wrong13:34
jattcfhowlett: juul: I see, thanks!13:35
mikeg3Hi…I am trying to troubleshoot a problem…I had to reset my password for Ubuntu 14.04.  Now when I try to log in, I click the word "Login" below my user name, and I am automaticallly logged in.  Autologin is turned off and I do not want to autimatically log in  How can I fix this?13:39
skrydalI try to build file share server, I have 5 HD, I want to make raid 1 and raid 5, how I can store data on RAID 5 partition (using samba)? Please any help. thanks :)13:40
elmaestroam currently on lucid lynx, can i upgrade without having to install afresh?13:41
cfhowlett!lucid|elmaestro,13:41
ubottuelmaestro,: Ubuntu 10.04 LTS (Lucid Lynx) was the twelfth release of Ubuntu.  Desktop support ended May 9 2013. Server support continues. See http://ubottu.com/y/lucid for more details.13:41
jattmikeg3: just for troubleshooting: what happens if you do Ctrl-Alt-F3 and try to login there? it asks for a password?13:41
cfhowlett!eolupgrade13:41
ubottuEnd-Of-Life is the time when security updates and support for an Ubuntu release stop, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Releases for more information. Looking to upgrade from an EOL release? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EOLUpgrades13:41
cfhowlettelmaestro, you'd have to attempt an eolupgrade to 12.04 and then to 14.04   lot less painful and opportunity for error if you just clean install 14.0413:42
elmaestrocool, so download iso of 14.0413:43
mikeg3Jatt: At what point should I press Ctrl-Alt-F3….as soon as it starts after the BIOS13:43
cfhowlettelmaestro, 1.404.113:43
PwrSurgequestion, anyone here have intel graphics drivers working in 14.04?13:43
PwrSurgehaving a hell of a time to make them work13:43
PwrSurgealso lightdm is broken13:44
PwrSurgehave to restart it 2 times before i see the login screen13:45
PwrSurgesurprized this made it as an LTS13:45
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adminewbmikeg3, Ctrl-Alt-F3 is for after your system is started13:45
jattmikeg3: when you are on the screen with the Login button you click to access your desktop13:45
frainfreezeAnyone know where esorotica is?13:46
PwrSurgewhen I see the login screen, it's only a black screen with mouse cursor showing13:46
cfhowlett!nomodeset | PwrSurge13:46
ubottuPwrSurge: A common kernel (boot)parameter is nomodeset, which is needed for some graphic cards that otherwise boot into a black screen or show corrupted splash screen. See http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1613132 on how to use this parameter13:46
PwrSurgei had no issues before with 12.0413:47
frainfreezeWe tried to update my ubuntu 13.04 to 14.04, now in GUI details it says 14 in terminal it says 13, also i don't have anything on screen, i came by making html file on windows and opening it from ubuntu, only thing I can see is desktop with that file, no gui menu bar13:47
frainfreezeletters are switched with boxes13:47
frainfreezelogin screen is all white13:48
frainfreezeany idea?13:48
kostkonfrainfreeze, try resetting your unity/compiz http://www.webupd8.org/2012/10/how-to-reset-compiz-and-unity-in-ubuntu.html13:49
kostkonfrainfreeze, also, to make sure that the upgrade process has completed successfully, try giving:  sudo apt-get dist-upgrade in the terminal. you can bring up a terminal by pressing ALT+F213:51
skrydal Server (File Sharing, SAMBA) - RAID 5      I try to make server, i will make two partition RAID 1 and RAID 5.     On RAID 5 I want to store data( I will use SAMBA), How I can store and share that partition in Ubuntu 14.04 LTS.      Thank you for any help.13:52
cfhowlett!server | skrydal13:52
ubottuskrydal: Ubuntu Server Edition is a release of Ubuntu designed especially for server environments, including a server specific !kernel and no !GUI. The install CD contains many server applications. Current !LTS version is !Trusty (Trusty Tahr 14.04) - More info: http://www.ubuntu.com/products/whatisubuntu/serveredition - Guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/12.04/serverguide/C/ - Support in #ubuntu-server13:52
mikeg3Jatt, tested Control-Alt-F3, logs in fine at $ prompt13:57
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frainfreezeand finaly keyboard died, I am now on windows, and no I was not able to open terminal13:59
frainfreezewindows bars went gone13:59
frainfreezei was able to interact with mozila only by mouse13:59
frainfreezeand only mozila13:59
cfhowlett!raid | skrydal14:00
ubottuskrydal: Tips and tricks for RAID and LVM can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/SoftwareRAID and http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/LVM-HOWTO - For software RAID, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FakeRaidHowto14:00
frainfreezei ll ask in croatian channel, thanks14:01
jontywhttp://blog.emfcamp.org/post/94157161753/announcing-tilda-mke-the-incredible-emf-2014-camp14:02
skrydalthank you ubottu14:03
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AlexPortableIs there a free backup software for ubuntu that lets me backup partitions?14:10
AlexPortableso I can restore a full image of my harddisk14:10
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cfhowlettclonezilla14:10
cfhowlettAlexPortable, ^14:10
gsowhat is the proper way of making this work: ssh -t gso@system 'su - c whoami' | gzip > file.gz  ?   I am never receiving the password prompt of su, because it's piped to gzip14:12
AlexPortableMS Windows Method C: Unetbootin (Not recommended)14:13
AlexPortablewhy is unetbootin not recommended?14:13
darksiderI have a riddle for you guys: when I boot ubuntu normally, screen goes blank (system still works). If I disable ACPI support in BIOS, everything works fine. But if I use ACPI=off kernel option, screen still goes blank14:14
darksiderany ideas?14:14
badbugzi am trying to get vga+hdmi output to work together on fglrx (radeon). i find that only one (either vga or hdmi) can be active any given time. how do i make both work together? thank you.14:14
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reversibleanHi, is there a fix for the ugly font rendering in Java swing apps?14:21
reversibleanI'm using Oracle JDK + Android Studio in Trusty14:22
noir_Sup guys. I have a font rendering problem. If I enable bitmap fonts I can14:23
noir_               have lot of fonts (for example I like tewi font) but on some programs, like14:23
noir_               the browser, I have an horrible font rendering. If I disable bitmap fonts14:23
noir_               everything goes ok but i can't use the fonts I like14:23
noir_ How to enable bitmap fonts but make these programs go better?14:23
noir_sorry for bad paste14:23
unopastenoir_ you have been muted for 60 seconds as it looks like you are pasting lots of lines into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com and paste just the URL of your data here when you are unmuted14:23
Nebukadnezahi14:24
Nebukadnezaare there 13.04 repositories still available, somewhere?14:25
noir_Sup guys. I have a font rendering problem. If I enable bitmap fonts I can14:25
noir_have lot of fonts (for example I like tewi font) but on some programs, like14:25
noir_the browser, I have an horrible font rendering. If I disable bitmap fonts14:25
noir_everything goes ok but i can't use the fonts I like14:25
cfhowlettNebukadneza, oldreleases.ubuntu.com   IIRC14:25
Nebukadnezacfhowlett: mh, i fear not ;(14:26
Nebukadnezaoh wait14:26
Nebukadnezaits not on the list, but the repo seems to exist14:26
cfhowlettNebukadneza, why are you mucking about with unsupported?  upgrade to 12.04 / 14.0414:26
Nebukadnezai'm not mucking, i know its unsupported14:27
Nebukadnezai'm politely asking14:27
Nebukadnezaat least thats what i intended to ;014:27
cfhowlettNebukadneza, http://old.releases.ubuntu.com/14:27
Nebukadnezaah, seems like it is here: http://old-releases.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/raring/14:29
Nebukadnezaoh, and there's the CDs and stuff14:29
Nebukadnezathanks cfhowlett!14:29
cfhowlettNebukadneza, happy2help14:29
Nebukadneza:)14:29
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lord4163I just installed Ubuntu 14.04.1 but now the scrolling with the touchpad is inverted?14:34
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cfhowlettlord4163, system settings / mouse       reverse the invert14:37
badbugzi am trying to get vga+hdmi output to work together on fglrx (radeon). i find that only one (either vga or hdmi) can be active any given time. how do i make both work together? thank you.14:44
anoneemousehi. as of 14.04 my usb bluetooth adapter is no longer working14:44
badbugzxrandr says HDMI1, VGA1 and LVDS1 all connected14:45
anoneemouseIt shows up in lsusb: 0a12:0001 Cambridge Silicon Radio, Ltd Bluetooth Dongle (HCI mode)14:45
badbugzhowever, xrandr --output LVDS1 --auto --right-of VGA1 --output VGA1 --auto --scale 1.0001x1.0001 --verbose14:45
badbugzxrandr: cannot find crtc for output LVDS114:45
anoneemousecan someone help? It doesn't show up in hcitool. I already tried installing linux-firmware (already installed). hcitool dev shows nothing14:47
sydneyShould i even have a swap with 1gig of ram? My pc loves to bog because of swapping. i have swappiness turned down. ;)14:47
badbugzif i xrandr --output HDMI1 --off, then xrandr --output LVDS1 --auto --right-of VGA1 --output VGA1 --auto --scale 1.0001x1.0001 --verbose then VGA1 displays14:48
hollenjfhello all... i had a cam corder record video dvd footge onto a dvd-r 30min disc... how can I mount or import the data onto my pc... i cant seem to see it in dmesg or anything14:48
badbugzis there some quirks with how dual triple displays work in 14.04? mind you i have never tried hdmi+vga at the same time14:49
cfhowlettsydney, 1 gig of ram?  you'd probably find l/x/ubuntu much faster.  test:  sudo apt-get install xfce4 lxde              logout/choose xfce4/lxde       session.  login.14:49
sydneycfhowlett: um,i am using lxde :P14:49
sydneycfhowlett: and it still loves to bog out,but not near as much :P14:49
cfhowlettsydney, how big is swap?14:49
sydneycfhowlett: 1gig14:50
sydneycfhowlett: swappiness = 2014:50
cfhowlettsydney, 20 gigs ram?  no way.  2 should be plenty14:50
liam_Liam14:50
cfhowlettsydney, 2 gig swap14:50
elmaestroguys how do i disable onboard speaker in favor of my other sound system from headphone jack?14:50
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sydneyhollenjf: when you plug the camcorder  into the computer,does the computer recognize it?14:51
sydneycfhowlett: what are you talking about? I have 1gig of ram,1 gig of swap,and my swappiness is set at 20?14:51
hollenjfsydney: just have the disc... camcorder was a loaner..14:51
cfhowlett!swap | sydney,14:51
ubottusydney,: swap is used to move unused programs and data out of main memory to make your system faster. It can also be used as extra memory if you don't have enough. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SwapFaq for more info14:51
Guest76964Hola people...have a small problem. While making a liveUSB of OpenSuse through command, i sent the file to the wrong place...the direction was dev/sdb but i firstly sent it to dav/sdx (That was default, I didnt realise). Can anyone tell me where that is, where I sent that large file to?14:52
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noir_How can I make a bash script that mounts a non-mounted NTFS drive?14:53
lord4163cfhowlett: Had to turn off "Normal scrolling", I think this is normal scrolling? :P14:53
badbugzdoes anyone here use dual monitor with ubuntu?14:56
badbugzwhat hardware am i looking to get if i need hdmi dual display?14:56
badbugzi think i've got decent graphics card (fglrx - radeon 6xxxM)14:57
badbugzmaybe just stick with vga switch :P14:58
badbugzhdmi splitter's not cheap14:58
OSaddictIf I have a non-bootable flash drive with a FAT partition and a Linux kernel on it, how do I install GRUB to the flash drive and make it bootable?14:59
badbugzi do have this aten mini kvm switch but 14.04 detects that EDID is invalid somehow :(15:00
badbugzOSaddict: grub-install /dev/<usb device>15:01
OSaddictI did sudo grub-install --force /dev/sdb, but when I try to boot the flash drive, I only get a flashing cursor.15:01
badbugzOSaddict: fdisk /dev/sdb15:01
badbugzmake it bootable15:01
darksiderhow can I report a system crash in ubuntu?15:01
badbugzapport i believe15:01
badbugzhmmm i am gonna try `nomodeset` :)15:04
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optrustyCan I customize ubuntu mini with UCK15:10
qtrainHello everyone.  Can anyone help with a quick $PATH issue? http://askubuntu.com/questions/508655/installing-a-script-in-path15:11
pmjdebru1jnoptrusty: last I recall UCK is broken and unmaintained15:11
scotty^Does anyone have access to set bug 1354346 to Wishlist for me?15:11
ubottubug 1354346 in cryptsetup (Ubuntu) "Upgrade to cryptsetup 1.6.4" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/135434615:11
optrustypmjdebru1jn: so what now15:13
pmjdebru1jnoptrusty: what now how15:14
pmjdebru1jnoptrusty: you can either try it yourself see if it's been fixed in the meanwhile15:14
pmjdebru1jnor take a look at ubuntu-default-builder15:14
optrustypmjdebru1jn: Does it have a GUI15:15
optrustylol15:15
pmjdebru1jnor just fix the issues uck has, and try to contribute to that15:15
pmjdebru1jnoptrusty: no ubuntu-defaults-builder doesn't have a GUI15:15
optrustypmjdebru1jn: Does it have a CLI15:15
pmjdebru1jnyes15:15
pmjdebru1jndoes anybody here have experience with creating unity webapps15:15
optrustypmjdebru1jn: Any alts15:16
OerHekshi pmjdebru1jn, unity search lenses ?15:17
pmjdebru1jnno clue15:17
pmjdebru1jnOerHeks: hi... no webapps15:17
MeXTuXThis error is showing when booting: usb 1-1.3: string descriptor 0 read error: -22 maybe it's something I can't fix but would like to hide it. Is there a fix for this or can I just hide all boot messages?15:17
pmjdebru1jnoptrusty: again uck might be fixed now, try and see15:17
pmjdebru1jnI'm just warning you that it might be broken15:17
pmjdebru1jnOerHeks: as in the oxide stuff15:18
pmjdebru1jnI'm wondering how I can have my webapp have firefox to ask the user about adding it as a webapp15:18
pmjdebru1jnpresumably with a meta tag15:18
kaizokuhello15:20
kostkonpmjdebru1jn, http://developer.ubuntu.com/web/15:21
OerHekspmjdebru1jn, i guess you already found http://developer.ubuntu.com/web/cookbook/15:21
PwrSurgecan anyone tell me how  it's possible 14.04 was released?15:22
PwrSurgeextremely buggy, does not even qualify for an alpha15:22
badbugzhmm.... i just turned off LVDS1 while using the VGA1 and HDMI1. works ok15:22
pmjdebru1jnPwrSurge: it works just fine for most people15:22
PwrSurgestill can't get intel accelerated graphics working15:22
badbugzatleast dual monitor works (was really trying to get triple to work :(15:22
pmjdebru1jnPwrSurge: did you try 14.04.1?15:22
pbxPwrSurge, if you have a specific problem you need help with, give details and ask for help15:22
cfhowlettPwrSurge, this is not the place for rants.  if you want assistance, provide details of your issues and wait for volunteer assistance or get paid assistance from canonical15:22
pmjdebru1jnPwrSurge and what particular Intel?15:23
badbugzrants rants no more rants15:23
OerHeksDarktable runs fine on Unity :-D15:23
badbugz#ubuntu does not tolerate rants!15:23
PwrSurgeFailed to open VDPAU backend libvdpau_i965.so: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory15:23
PwrSurgei96515:23
pmjdebru1jnvdpau?15:23
pmjdebru1jnisn't that experimental stuff?15:24
pmjdebru1jnoh no15:24
pmjdebru1jnPwrSurge: having vdpau not working, is a far shot away from "my intel isn't working"15:24
PwrSurgelet me try to reboot15:24
pmjdebru1jnit's merely a minor optimization feature15:24
badbugzwhat does it do?15:24
PwrSurgethe whole desktop is unaccelerated15:24
pmjdebru1jnPwrSurge: that has nothing to do with vdpau15:25
* badbugz looks right15:25
* badbugz looks left15:25
pmjdebru1jnPwrSurge: and usually you don't have that package15:25
pmjdebru1jnPwrSurge: try a clean 14.04.1 live cd15:25
cfhowlett!behelpful|badbugz,15:25
ubottubadbugz,: As our !guidelines say, "When helping, be helpful". If you're not familiar with the issue at hand, let someone else handle it instead of making !offtopic comments or jokes.15:25
pmjdebru1jnoh well15:26
ses1984hi-- i'm having a problem with a machine crashing randomly. i pulled the hard drive out and put it into a known working machine. when i boot, i just get a blinking cursor15:26
ses1984i've tried to go into grub menu by pressing/holding shift, nothing's happening15:26
ses1984i have verified in the bios boot menu that i'm trying to boot this hard drive15:26
badbugzinteresting. i should get acceleration to work properly now under this new ati driver15:27
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badbugzses1984: oh boy. did you corrupt your mbr or something?15:28
kilianphello15:29
badbugzhiya15:30
ses1984badbugz: i don't think the hard drive is corrupted, if i put it back in the crashing machine, it boots fine15:30
ses1984i've tried setting the bios hard drive mode to ide and ahci and i get a blinking cursor with both15:31
badbugzses1984: ahh i didn't get the "boots fine" part. cool15:31
ses1984i'm booting into a live ubuntu usb key, hopefully i can figure out how to fix grub?15:31
kaizokuhello world15:31
badbugzses1984: and what happens when you liveusb the failing machine?15:31
cfhowlettkaizoku, ask your ubuntu questions15:31
ses1984i dont know, haven't tried? it only fails once every 12-24 hours15:32
kaizokuwhy?15:32
ses1984i'm live booting the replacement machine with the hd from the failing machine in it, trying to figure out how i can boot from that drive15:32
cfhowlettses1984, I'd suggest you my have a failing drive.15:32
kaizokuit's only for ubunut support ?15:32
scotty^kaizoku - 4215:32
cfhowlett!topic | kaizoku,15:33
ubottukaizoku,: Please read the channel topic whenever you enter, as it contains important information. To view it at any time after joining, simply type /topic15:33
ses1984cfhowlett: i'll check that with smart15:33
badbugzses1984: oh so random crash. post the kernel log after your system crashes and reboot takes place.15:33
kaizokuokay , sorry about that :)15:33
badbugzses1984: yeah smartctl can give you some indication15:33
badbugzses1984: what's the current status of the drive? current kernel log?15:33
badbugzses1984: what happens if you plug a new drive into the failing machine?15:34
kostkon!offtopic | kaizoku, there is the offtopic channel for general chat15:34
ubottukaizoku, there is the offtopic channel for general chat: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!15:34
badbugz(a new drive with buntu on it)15:34
mjuszczakI can't for the life of me pull a source package from launchpad.  I've been trying for days.  How would one pull the source package for a user's ffmpeg package?15:35
badbugzisn't there some incanation of apt-add-repo or something?15:35
cfhowlettmjuszczak, ffmpeg has been deprecated in favor of libav-tools   (avconv replaces ffmpeg)15:35
badbugzthe bloke wants the src. give him the src! :)15:36
cfhowlettses1984, test your mobo with an ubuntu USB?15:36
kaizokuit's the first time :X , thanx for ur info. , if i hv any Qs I will come here ^_^15:36
badbugz(oh that just adds a new lp repo)15:36
OerHeksmjuszczak, what package exactly ?15:37
badbugzany more problems anyones having with ubuntu.15:37
rihbynein 13.04  LTS I want my global menu bar to be always visible. any how to for this?15:38
rihbynecurrently it autohides when we dont hover over it or press keystroke for menu bar15:38
ses1984cfhowlett: how does one test a mobo?15:38
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cfhowlettrihbyne, 13.04 is NOT LTS.  nor is it supported anymore.  12.04 is LTS15:39
cfhowlettses1984, if you get a boot from a ubuntu USB, the problem you see is not your mobo ...15:39
ses1984cfhowlett: in the known working machine or the crashing machine? both of them boot just fine. the crashing machine doesn't crash except after ~12 hours or more15:40
scotty^rihbyne: Also, in 14.04 you can set menus to be displayed in the window's title bar instead of in the global menu bar.15:40
cfhowlettses1984, test the crash machine.15:40
hey_joe_i tried to install memcached (without knowing anything about it) using apt-get install memcached - well, the install froze, and now it forces me to use dpkg reconfigure -a everytime i try to purge memcached15:41
ses1984well, booting is no problem. but that rule out the motherboard being bad. it's just OK enough to boot, possibly not OK enough to have a stable system15:41
hey_joe_and fails again. what do i do?15:41
badbugzses1984: i suggest you capture the kernel log after the crash and post it where someone can view it15:41
hey_joe_i just want memcached removed and all remains of it15:41
badbugzses1984: it could be driver crash, software crash or hardware - until somehow reviews the logs, there's no way to read the systems brain15:42
ses1984badbugz: i'm not asking for help to figure out what's wrong with crashing machine. i'm just trying to figure out how to boot the known working machine...which i think should be booting but for some reason i'm getting just a cursor. i'm fixing grub now and about to reboot to see what happens15:43
badbugzhey_joe_: apt-get remove --purge memcached15:43
badbugzhey_joe_: apt-get remove --purge -y memcached15:43
hey_joe_badbugz: E: dpkg was interrupted, you must manually run 'dpkg --configure -a' to correct the problem.15:43
badbugzhey_joe_: so run that15:43
hey_joe_running dpkg --configure -a freezes system again15:43
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hey_joe_on memcached install15:43
badbugzhey_joe_: ctrl+alt+f1 and try again.15:45
badbugzhey_joe_: freezes. why freezes?15:45
hey_joe_not sure15:45
badbugzhey_joe_: ctrl+alt+f1 and try again.15:46
hey_joe_i think it's a problem with my custom system authentication15:46
hey_joe_libnss-mysql15:46
hey_joe_im on a mac...15:46
badbugzses1984: what happens if you press escape when you get that cursor? anything in ctrl+alt+f1?15:47
ses1984nothing15:47
ses1984just cursor15:47
badbugzcycle15:47
badbugzctrl+alt+f1...f615:47
ses1984i think the issue might be the the crashing computer was efi and the known working one is not15:47
badbugzdoes your bios offer 'efi disable'/15:48
badbugz?15:48
badbugzefi is a piece of crap15:48
ses1984not the known working one. it's definitely non efi15:48
ses1984the known working one has no efi anything on it15:48
OerHeksEFI is fine15:49
OerHeks!uefi15:49
ubottuUEFI is a specification that defines a software interface between an operating system and platform firmware. It is meant as a replacement for the BIOS. For information on how to set up and install Ubuntu and its derivatives on UEFI machines please read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UEFI15:49
samthewildonehow do I install a icon theme set via .zip ?15:49
ses1984OerHeks: if efi was "fine" then i should be able to just drop this hard drive in and boot..alas i can't15:49
badbugzefi is not fine15:49
samthewildoneI remember there was a command line way15:49
badbugzefi is 2.2 million lines of crap code15:49
ses1984everything efi that i have ever had to deal with made me want to throw a hatchet into my computer monitor15:49
badbugzmore than your linux kernel code15:50
ses1984and this is not helping15:50
cfhowlett!behelpful|badbugz,15:50
ubottubadbugz,: As our !guidelines say, "When helping, be helpful". If you're not familiar with the issue at hand, let someone else handle it instead of making !offtopic comments or jokes.15:50
badbugzcfhowlett: ok :)15:50
badbugzanyhow. i am out of ideas ses1984 buddy.15:50
badbugzgoodluck15:50
* badbugz gotta go15:51
badbugzlaters15:51
loahello.15:54
idoochenghello, how can I connect Wifi under Xubuntu 14.0415:55
loahow i can protect my system from swapping? when some application began consume memory too fast?15:55
loafor example i wrote application and done mistake and application consume memory very fast.15:55
OerHeksso you want to control swapping, just when your system needs it too? that sounds like fun.15:57
SchrodingersScatidoocheng: there should be a network-manager icon in the top-right, possibly to the left of the date/time.15:57
sfnI have installed Ubuntu 14.04 Beta. If I update will the installation get upgraded to 14.04 distribution release?15:57
OerHekssfn, yes15:57
reversibleanIs there any official or recommended fix for ugly font rendering in java swing apps without installing openjdk-fontfix patch?15:58
TJ-loa: You could make the OOM killer more aggressive15:58
OerHekssfn 14.04.1 now15:58
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idoochengmember:identifier:schrodingersscat, yes I can see it, but I when i open it no wifi information shows15:59
sfn@OerHeks, very much thanks for your clarification15:59
loaTJ-, that not what i want. i want something like rules, for example this application and it's child are not trustable, if they trying consume more that limit just do clean up and kill them all.15:59
SchrodingersScatidoocheng: we might need information specific to the card you are using, or generally more details.15:59
TJ-loa: see "ulimit -Sv ..."16:00
idoochengSchrodingersScat: how i can check my card type16:00
nopunditryhello ubuntians! I'm getting an update notice that says 'new hardware support is available'..it is the first time I get an update like this. could you please help me know what it is for?16:01
wadI'm planning on installing Ubuntu 14.04 LTS 64-bit desktop edition on a new box with two hard drives in a RAID-1 configuration. I googled around for some documentation on the process, but I'm not sure I found the best one.16:02
cfhowlettnopunditry, probably an update to a hardware driver.16:02
SchrodingersScatidoocheng: I think for internal card you could check 'lspci'16:02
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wadI've used the mdadm tools a lot, I like software raid.16:03
nopunditrycfhowlett, thank you :)16:03
TJ-wad: To make it easier to configure the RAID-1 mirror, you might find it easier to use the -server ISO to install the base system, then once it is installed, simply do "sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop" to add all the desktop packages. The server installer can handle MD RAID, although you may have to use its "drop to shell" option to create the array correctly, before continuing with the Partitioning step16:04
wadTJ: great advice, thanks!16:04
wadTJ-, is there an option to encrypt the drives as well?16:05
TJ-wad: That way, at the shell you can do "mdadm --create /dev/md0 --level=raid1 --metadata=1.0 --raid-devices=2 /dev/sda /dev/sdb" or whatever you need16:05
* wad nods16:05
* wad grabs this text and puts it in his notes16:05
TJ-wad: Apply encryption on top of the mirror? I can't remember if the -server installer supports that... but again, you can do that from the shell16:06
wadOkay.16:06
* wad starts downloading the server iso16:06
TJ-wad: "cryptsetup luksFormat /dev/md0 ..." then "cryptsetup luksOpen /dev/md0 cryptdev ..." or whatever - you might want to encrypt per file-system rather than whole disk of course16:07
* wad puts that in his notes too16:08
samthewildonewhere is the local theme / icon directory in ubuntu ?16:08
wadYeah, just the filesystem on the partition.16:08
relipsewhere do I get ubuntu server 32 bit?16:08
trijntjeI want to automatically make a weekly/daily backup of my full home to an other HD on the network. What is the best way to do this, I shut down my pc at night, and if the backup starts while my home is in use I'll end up with a corrupted backup right?16:08
idoochengSchrodingersScat: that shows so many lines which is the card info?16:08
trijntjeshabius: try looking in .local/share16:09
TJ-wad: I have /boot/ file-system encrypted separately (supported by GRUB with GRUB_ENABLE_CRYPTODISK=y)16:09
SchrodingersScatidoocheng: does one say wireless?16:09
wadSo the crypt stuff happens after the creation of the RAID-1, after the creation of the filesystem, and before the installation of the OS?16:09
nopunditryalso I have the current problem that my system gets easily jammed (cursor doesn't move, page loads freeze, can't move between open programs). this happens with 'not that many' programs or tabs open (3-4 programs and 5-6 tabs in browser) whereas the system used to work fine during more than double as much activity. how can I check whether this is due to part or all of my hardware failing, or a background program (that compromised my system) running that16:09
nopunditryburdens the system?16:09
TJ-wad errr, If you're making a bootable MD mirror, then its mdadm --create, {f,g}disk /dev/md0, then cryptsetup luksFormat /dev/md0p?, then cryptsetup luksOpen /dev/md0p? crypt?, then mkfs.ext4 /dev/mapper/crypt? ... that make sense?!16:11
wadAh, okay. So the crypt stuff is before the mkfs.16:12
TJ-wad:  you may need "kpartx -a /dev/md0" after the partitioning step if the kernel's PTs aren't updated16:12
idoochengSchrodingersScat: no wireless, but i find   Network controller: Broadcom Corporation BCM4312 802.11b/g LP-PHY16:12
SchrodingersScat!broadcom | idoocheng, I should have guessed, another victim of their campaign against freedom16:13
ubottuidoocheng, I should have guessed, another victim of their campaign against freedom: Help with Broadcom bcm43xx can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx16:13
TJ-wad: Yes. cryptsetup will create a device-mapper node /dev/mapper/<your-chosen-crypt-name> which is the file-system container16:13
sandyHi  does ubuntu 14 differ from linux mint 17 with regards to supported devices, in particular an older USB modem cmotech D-50, does anyone have any experience with this?16:13
idoochengSchrodingersScat: thanks!16:13
sudheerHi - can someone help me how to speed up ubuntu 10.0416:14
trijntje!10.04 | sudheer16:14
ubottusudheer: Ubuntu 10.04 LTS (Lucid Lynx) was the twelfth release of Ubuntu.  Desktop support ended May 9 2013. Server support continues. See http://ubottu.com/y/lucid for more details.16:14
reedwhat's the best twitter desktop client nowadays?16:15
relipsechrome16:15
sudheersorry its 14.0416:15
reedrelipse, I'm not going through the pain of using free software only to give up my freedom to Google, thanks :)16:15
SchrodingersScatreed: chromium-browser then?16:16
sudheerubottu: - Its 14.0416:16
reedSchrodingersScat, nope, not touching any of that Google crap. Firefox :)16:16
cfhowlettreed, "best"?  the one that you use and prefer.  no way to measure.  install and test your options16:16
trijntjesudheer: that depends on your system, what are the specs and what exactly is slow?16:16
nopunditrysorry for the long question. shortly, I have a system that often jams lately at low level of workload. hard disk is shown healthy. how can I check other key hardware parts that might cause the problem, or else whether the system is compromised (a background activity causing an overload)?16:16
reedcfhowlett, indeed, I should have said 'popular' :)16:17
reedcfhowlett, I'm assuming that like email clients they all suck, might as well use one that many others use :)16:17
cfhowlettreed, see the ubuntu software center and compare the ratings ...16:17
sudheerwell here is my configuration16:18
sudheerIntel® Pentium(R) Dual CPU T3200 @ 2.00GHz × 216:18
sudheer3 GB RAM16:18
reedcfhowlett, good idea, thanks16:18
sudheerInitially it was fast but now I am facing some issues while booting16:18
cfhowlettreed, happy2help16:19
inthedryerI am getting a "radeon ring 3 test failed" followed by an "s1 startup failed on resume" message during boot. After that the installer crashes. How might I sort this out?16:21
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domenico_list16:31
cfhowlett!list > domenico_16:32
ubottudomenico_, please see my private message16:32
domenico_salve16:32
funknsteinagreed16:33
domenico_list16:34
sfnI am having Ubuntu 14.04. Is it possible to make launcher to auto hide? If I have more space it will help for eclipse layout16:35
cpinedhello, I need help...my ubuntu 14.04 has slowed down ... I hear a lot of hard disk thrashing.  Even the keyboard response is slow.16:36
wadTJ-, okay, so once I get luks installed and set up, will I need to enter the passphrase on every boot?16:37
cpinedIt is getting ridiculous ...sounds now like a window OS.16:37
wadcpined, run htop from a terminal, what do you see?16:38
wadcpined, you can also see hard disk activity with iotop16:38
cpinedI only have top installed.16:38
sfnIs it possible to make launcher to auto hide? If I have more space it will help for eclipse layout16:39
wadsudo apt-get install htop iotop16:39
idoochengquit16:39
wadhtop will tell you if you are into swap.16:39
Beldarsfn, Left panel should be auto hiding are you fully upgraded?16:39
TJ-wad: Yes, or you can add a key-file to one of the LUKS slots, and configure /etc/crypttab to run a script to find and mount a (removable) device with the key-file on, or you can install dropbear (ssh server) into the initrd and have SSH from a controlling system send the key-file/pass-phrase16:40
sfnIf I make update ,will it enough?16:40
Beldarsfn, No exact answer since it should be working, always be updated.16:41
sfn@Beldar, thanks I will try16:41
metaleerizdoghello16:41
cpinedwad, what do I look for with htop?16:42
wadTJ-, thanks. Yeah, what I actually want is to be prompted for a passphrase on boot.16:42
inthedryerOk, so I've finally grabbed the error messages on boot. First "Restore Sound Card State --> [Fail]" Then "drm:r600_dma_ring_test --> Radeon Ring 3 test failed" then "drm:s1_resume --> s1 startup failed on resume [0xFFFFFF]" Then the install splash pulls up, and it crashes.16:42
wadcpined, See the bars across the top, and the numbers? The numbered bars are for each CPU core.16:42
wadThe longer the bar, the more CPU usage.16:42
metaleerizdogi think bazhang s mom is a whore16:42
wadThere is also a memory bar, and a swap bar.16:42
Beldar!ops | metaleerizdog16:43
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metaleerizdog!ops16:43
wadIf your hard drive is thrashing, you migth be out of RAM, and using swap space. htop will show you how much swap you are in.16:43
Beldarand a registered user to boot16:43
cpinedwad: currently installing skype and the top bar is at 100%16:44
bizkithey16:44
wadcpined, how many CPUs does htop show?16:45
cpinedI only have 1.1. gig left on the drive...does that matter?16:45
wadOh, yeah, if you're nearly out of hard drive space, the computer will slow down.16:45
cfhowlettcpined, yep.  that'd be the end of your /swap16:45
wadYou need to free up some hard drive space, ASAP!16:46
cpinedhow can I tell how many CPUs I have, sorry.16:46
cpinedoh, I think I have two CPU's16:46
wadThe bars at the top of htop... yeah16:46
inthedryerHave I provided enough information?16:47
cpinedwad: so really I need to free up some space?16:47
wadIf you've only got a gig of disk space, I'd say that's the most important thing to do.16:47
wadDelete some videos or something. :)16:47
cpinedyup...videos is the culprit16:47
cpinedthanks16:47
* wad called it16:47
Beldar!cookie | wad lol16:49
ubottuwad lol: Wow! You're such a great helper, you deserve a cookie!16:49
inthedryerWhy is the installer crashing? Its a fairly new system.16:50
cfhowlett!md5sum | inthedryer, 1. verify the ISO   2. verify the USB16:52
ubottuinthedryer, 1. verify the ISO   2. verify the USB: To verify your Ubuntu ISO image (or other files for which an MD5 checksum is provided), see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/HowToMD5SUM or http://www.linuxquestions.org/linux/answers/LQ_ISO/Checking_the_md5sum_in_Windows16:52
inthedryerYes, the checksum checks out.16:54
cfhowlettinthedryer, on both?16:54
inthedryeron the iso16:55
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inthedryerThere seems to be a problem with the radeon drivers --> "radeon ring 3 test failed." My system uses an 8970m17:00
OerHeksinthedryer, see http://askubuntu.com/questions/457391/radeon-ring-0-test-failed-on-boot-ubuntu-14-0417:01
OerHeks unchecked "Enable GPU switching"17:01
wolfspyHi guys, why does my Lenovo B570 laptop show this when I try to boot from any live USB? http://i.imgur.com/oe24eNR.jpg17:02
Beldarwolfspy, Could be a number of things how about some history leading to this.17:04
wolfspyuuh17:04
Beldarin other words details17:04
wolfspywhen I plug in a usb and try to boot to it, that shows up17:04
wolfspymost usbs*17:04
Beldar!nomodeset | wolfspy17:04
ubottuwolfspy: A common kernel (boot)parameter is nomodeset, which is needed for some graphic cards that otherwise boot into a black screen or show corrupted splash screen. See http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1613132 on how to use this parameter17:04
Beldarwolfspy, preface answers to others with their nick and try not to use post other than to give concise answers. ;)17:06
inthedryerunfortunately, there are no related BIOS (UEFI) settings to change, and I haven't gotten anything installed yet.17:06
wolfspyubottu, Nothing shows up before that screen so I can't set any options17:06
ubottuwolfspy: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)17:06
wolfspyoh17:06
Beldarwolfspy, Is the usb for installing ubnuntu?17:07
wolfspyyes17:07
wolfspyand most other linux usbs do that too17:07
Beldarwolfspy, what app did you use for loading the usb?17:07
wolfspywin32diskimager17:07
wolfspyI could try a cd mabye17:08
wolfspyI read somewhere that it only supports certian partation layouts so mabye it doesnt work well with usbs eaither...?17:09
tete_did someone here ever setup an encrypted raid5 with lvm? this is driving me crazy. i have 3 SSDs and want to have a "big" raid 5 with encryption, and prefer lvm (so i have to enter the password only once etc. instead of swap and / ). so i created 2x raid5, one for /boot with ext3 and one for a big encrypted lvm, inside that lvm i have swap and /17:09
tete_but the last step of the installer is saying that it was not able to install grub17:09
inthedryerWhat's a good linux based usb creator, I used Linux Live Usb on windows to create the one that gives me the radeon error.17:09
tete_this is now the 6th or 7th install :/17:09
cfhowlettinthedryer, unetbootin17:09
Beldarwolfspy, You need a app that will get you to the first gui the nomodeset link shows, there are a handful out there look at pendrivelinux17:10
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Beldarwolfspy, You would need a dvd, burn as an image.17:11
Beldarwolfspy> I read somewhere that it only supports certian partation layouts so mabye it doesnt work well with usbs eaither...? Ubuntu uses usb's easily.17:12
BigMaoHi there, how do I source my .bash_profile when I log into Ubuntu 12.04 LTS?17:14
BigMaoI had my environment variables in .bashrc for years, but now I realized I needed to move them17:14
wolfspyBeldar, my laptop doesn't support some partatition layouts, not ubuntu17:14
Beldarwolfspy, And that means what exactly?17:15
BigMaonow the problem is that my environment variables won't get loaded when I open a new terminal, because it's not a login shell.  Is it possible for these environment variables to be loaded only once (when I actually log in?)17:15
frost_bitedoes anyone know how to mount a freebsd slice under linux? I can mount the entire ufs parition but I cant view individual slices.17:15
BigMaoI already tried to source .bash_profile in my .profile.  It led to some funny behavior where every time I logged in, it would prompt me for my password again.17:15
wolfspyBeldar, my laptop wont boot to drives with some partatition layouts17:15
wolfspylike guid17:15
Beldarwolfspy, a usb should be a staright fat3217:16
Beldarstraight*17:16
wolfspyyeah17:16
Beldarmsdos17:16
enigma617hi17:17
Beldarwolfspy, If the usb's are guid you need to change the partition table to msdos.17:19
wolfspyit is msdos17:19
wolfspythe laptop just has booted fine from dvds in the past but it sometimes doesn't work with usbs17:19
Beldarwolfspy, guid id gpt, msdos is the standard that has been around for a long time17:19
Beldaris*17:19
BeldarI doubt you have guid usb's never seen that without making it wolfspy17:20
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Beldarunless an apple I suppose wolfspy not sure on apple17:20
wolfspywell17:20
wolfspyI wasn't really talking about guid anyway.....17:20
frost_bitecan linux mount a freebsd slice?17:21
Beldarwolfspy, Than don't post garbage not related we are trying to help you.17:21
loacan somebody explain me, if i have 8gb ram and i don't consume many ram, i need swap or not?17:23
furryduckyou never NEED swap17:23
furryduckbut it can't hurt17:23
Beldarloa, ram is used as needed.17:23
furryduckunless you're low on hdd space17:23
loasometimes i run out of memory and my system hangs17:23
Beldarloa, make a awap17:23
loabecouse of swap proccess.17:23
furryduckIf you run out of RAM, then you are using a lot of ram.17:23
loaso i can switch of swap safely?17:24
loaoff17:24
Beldar!swap | loa look at swappiness17:24
ubottuloa look at swappiness: swap is used to move unused programs and data out of main memory to make your system faster. It can also be used as extra memory if you don't have enough. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SwapFaq for more info17:24
* furryduck 17:24
vocoyhello everyone, I have a 64 bit device with 2gb ram. the ram is however shown as 1,9GB in system settings. so I am confused which one to refer to. should I install 64 bit ubuntu, or 32 bit one, because the latter is recommended for machines with <2gb ram?17:25
furryduckeither one will work, however the 64-bit version may be better.17:26
furryduckdo you know what architecture your cpu is?17:26
vocoyfurryduck, where can I see it? I guess it's amd17:26
Beldarvocoy, It is standard to see the ram that, you have 2 gigs basically.17:26
Beldarway*17:26
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furryduckare you running windows right now, or linux?17:27
vocoyfurryduck, I'm running ubuntu 12.04.4.17:27
furryduckyou can upgrade without reinstalling17:27
Beldarloa, Do you understand swappiness?17:28
furryduckbut you can get your architecture with "uname -p"17:28
vocoyfurryduck, I had a long while ago the experience that upgrade could go messy :)..which was when I also somewhere heard that 'clean install' would be better17:28
furryduckI like to clean-install every few versions.17:29
loaBeldar, yeah, but i think when i will run into oom it will be ignored.17:29
loai think i will just switch off swap.17:29
loaand buy another 8gb17:29
BigMaoIs .gnomerc still the right file to configure gdm?17:29
Beldarloa, not a good idea what is oom?17:29
mlsaI can see my mobile broadband adapter as wwan0 (ifconfig) but not under "Network" in Gnome17:30
loaBeldar, out of memory sityuation.17:30
mlsaI can see and use the modem just fine in my alternate debian-installation17:30
vocoyfurryduck, and I also do this install (actually reinstall) for I have strange problems with system performance (it gets stuck often lately at low level of activity)..I thought a clean install might help better than upgrade to solve that?17:30
Beldarloa, use a lower swappiness it will swap later try that first, turning the swap off is a lat resort and may make things only worse.17:31
furryduckyes, that's the nice thing about free OSs. If it gets slow, just wipe and reinstall.17:31
Beldarlast*17:31
furryduckworks every time xD17:31
loaBeldar, i will try.17:31
furryduckas a backup of course17:31
furryduckususally it's best to solve the problem.17:31
loaBeldar, yeah i remember that every time is switch swap in a short time i switch off it back. lol17:32
furryduckyou could also try upgrading, and if it fails, or has problems, then reinstall.17:32
Beldarloa, bad technique.17:32
loaBeldar, switch on *17:32
vocoyfurryduck, yet I tried to find out why, and don't know how to do it. my hard disk works fine, the system says. I don't know where else to look. I also thought if the system is compromised by malware etc..but dont know how to check that. could that be possible?17:33
furryducktechnically yes, but I highly doubt it.17:33
Beldarloa, get a SSD you will not even notice any swapping. Set the swappiness lower and use the computer so it is not swapping so much there are limitations to any computer.17:33
furryduckA windows virus/ malware cannot run on ubuntu17:33
furryduckand most viruses are written for windows.17:34
vocoydon't think of anything else that causes freezes with 4 programs, 5-6 tabs17:34
loaBeldar, swap is not recommend to hold on ssd17:34
Beldarloa, That is old school, modern SSD's have the same life as a spinning one.17:34
furryduckWhen I have a problem, I find the best place to start is by running "dmesg".17:34
furryduckThat will show the system log.17:35
loaBeldar, can you give me example of modern?17:35
Beldarloa, it's all on the web do the research, get one that is been released within the last couple of years.17:36
loaok17:36
furryduckI've had pretty bad experiences with Samsung 840 series ssds.17:37
furryduckThey always seem to fail in RAID17:37
loasoftware raid?17:37
furryduckyep17:37
furryduckand hardware17:37
andre_Guys I have a problem with my ubuntu 12.04, avery time that I reboot the system, some configuration are reset.17:37
furryduckI tried both17:38
loastrange.17:38
furryduckI usually prefer to use software though17:38
andre_Any idea what can I do to solve this problem.17:38
furryduckI've sent back 3 500gb ones.17:38
furryduckare you using a Live CD, andre?17:38
furryduckor live USB17:38
andre_No.17:38
vocoyfurryduck, I found this in dmesg output : http://paste.ubuntu.com/7990541/   but cant make sense of it :(17:38
andre_Is installed on my HD.17:38
Beldarfurryduck, There is no real validity in you experience in this to many outliers and is not ubuntu support.17:39
Beldaryour*17:39
mlsacould the missing mobile broadband option in network manager be the result of missing packages? modemmanager and networkmanager are both installed17:39
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furryduckI'm just putting in my two cents.17:40
loafurryduck, consumers drives are not supposed to work in any type of raids)17:40
furryduckI know, I google that later.17:40
Beldarfurryduck, yes we know, this channel is support is all.17:40
furryduckare you saying this is the wrong channel for that type of conversation?17:41
Beldarover 1500 users imagine if evryone was adding there 2 cents furryduck17:41
Beldartheir*17:41
furryduckoh, ok, sorry, I'm new to irc.17:42
Beldarfurryduck, No biggie, you were trying to help, it is just concrete info is needed ans support is all. ;)17:42
Beldarand*17:42
furryduckdo you use /msg for private messages?17:43
Beldarfurryduck, Don't pm without asking a user first, I have it off for example.17:44
furryduckoh, ok17:44
cpinedhello, when I click on applications to run I hear the hard disk thrashing pretty loud, is that normal?17:44
furryduckis it in pulses?17:44
furryducklike Wurrrr .... Wurrr ... Wurrr17:44
vocoycould this mean a reason to cause sporadic freezes? I found nothing else noticeable in dmesg output: http://paste.ubuntu.com/7990541/  ?17:45
Beldarcpined, use the smartdisk in the disks app top right corner.17:45
furryduckThat section looked like a hardware error.17:45
Beldarsmartcheck that is cpined17:45
furryduckpower specifically.17:45
furryduckcould you upload your whole dmesg?17:46
cpinedBeldar: How do I do that?17:46
Beldarcpined, open the disks app top right corner is a drop down smart data ans self test will show you data.17:47
vocoyfurryduck, it is long. and not sure if using 'less' lists it properly17:48
vocoyso, for the reinstall, I can use 64 bit download?17:48
andre_So... any idea about my problem?17:48
Beldarcpined, Thrashing from here is a hard thing to use as any real data, I would be sure the HD is in good shape and not to full.17:49
cpinedBeldar: what do i look for?17:49
furryduckit depends17:50
furryduckwhat did "uname -p" give you17:50
furryduck?17:50
vocoyx86 6517:50
vocoysorry, 64 :)17:50
furryduckxD17:50
furryduckThat means your processor is 64-bit17:50
furryduckI'd use the 64 bit build if I were you.17:50
vocoyyes, sure..no,I was just referring to this recommend of 32 bit17:51
Beldarcpined, problems with the HD in the data the assessment is a okay start, smatcheck can be run from a terminal, I would research this, some here might walk you through, but you have to be realistic with just a "my disc is thrashing" notice.17:51
royalaxelol, im going to use that next time someone asks me what my os bit is. 65, cos mines better17:51
furryduckThat is most likely reccomended because lots of 32-bit processors have smaller amounts of ram. 64-bit is newer than 32-bit17:52
furryducklol royalaxe17:52
furryduckI was thinking the same thing17:52
furryduckx86_819217:53
YetAnotherCharac[Ubuntu 12.04 server] On login through ssh, a warning is generated if some partition is almost full (e.g., 99%). Can the threshold be changed? If yes, how?17:53
royalaxewe now have to change our names to morris moss17:53
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Beldarcpined, Your best insurance is backups off the HD in the end on a external or another internal HD if you want to be prepared for any failure.17:53
furryduckYetAnotherCharac, have a look here: http://askubuntu.com/questions/7925/can-i-configure-low-disk-space-warning-to-a-lesser-threshold17:54
YetAnotherCharacfurryduck: Isn't that for gnome only?17:54
BeldarYetAnotherCharac, Don't fill up the HD.17:54
YetAnotherCharacBeldar: I want to lower it17:55
furryduckare you referring to a command line warning?17:55
YetAnotherCharacfurryduck: yes17:55
YetAnotherCharacfor /boot17:55
YetAnotherCharacI want to lower it to 90%17:55
BeldarYetAnotherCharac, Or make the partition larger, if a boot partition remove extra kernels.17:55
YetAnotherCharacBeldar: I just removed extra kernels, I want to have a longer time of warning next time this happen17:56
BeldarYetAnotherCharac, trying to reset a warning is a bad idea just monitor the thing.17:56
YetAnotherCharac(it broke apt-get, was a pain to repair)17:56
YetAnotherCharacBeldar: Then I guess I should make an additional script checking it17:57
BeldarYetAnotherCharac, it did not break apt-get you had a broken update, not rocket science stuff.17:57
furryduckhere's a good one: http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/mac-osx-unix-get-an-alert-when-my-disk-is-full/17:58
furryduckif you're looking for a pre-made script17:58
BeldarYetAnotherCharac, one server?17:58
YetAnotherCharacBeldar: yes17:58
YetAnotherCharacfurryduck: thanks!17:58
furryduckYou're very welcome.17:58
sdf30sHi, I wish to open a mp3 stream from a webdav resource, play it using a media player and preferably stream it back out over icecast. any suggestions, since mpd doesn't stream from webdav collections? HOw do I go about streaming in from webdav and streaming out over icecast?17:58
BeldarYetAnotherCharac, If you do this and never check you are just asking for trouble, a boot partition is not really needed anyway.17:59
sdf30swebdav is on an external server. media player and icecast on my server17:59
YetAnotherCharacBeldar: it came with the install, and I have no physical access to the machine17:59
furryducksdf30s: you could mount the webdav resource17:59
furryduckand use it like a local filesystem18:00
DGMurdockERROR###ERROR###ERROR###ERROR###ERROR###ERROR###ERROR Failed to lock /var/lib/apt/lists/lock18:00
sdf30sfurryduck: my music collection is huge and mpd wants to scan tqags over gigabytes of mp3s... any better suggestions?18:00
t0th_-hi18:00
YetAnotherCharacBeldar: There is room for ~22 more kernels, I'm planing ahead for next year...18:00
t0th_-i have /etc/rc.local is not executed in startup, how i can solve?18:01
BeldarDGMurdock, Context? any stopped upgrades, broken packages, other installers open?18:01
furryduckdo you not want it to scan?18:01
BeldarYetAnotherCharac, you only need 2 sets18:01
sdf30sfurryduck: no... just stream in from webdav... read tagsw on the go one file at a time while playing18:01
sdf30sfurryduck: similar to m3u and pls files with pointers to the file locations18:02
BeldarYetAnotherCharac, one working a nd another to be sure you have a woking install.18:02
Beldarand * working*18:02
YetAnotherCharacBeldar: Yeah, but I'm not always on the machine, and not the only user, and I will leave at some point and want them to have some warning18:03
sdf30sMPD doesn't do this-> Here's my username and password for my webdav ... these are the file paths I want you to play over the next hour streamed out over icecast18:03
DGMurdockBeldar,  trying to do system updates18:03
BeldarDGMurdock, Yes, and any answers to what I addressed. Ask if you do not understand.18:04
DGMurdockBeldar,  also im not really using ubuntu im using pinguyos  a ubuntu based os and it not lasted verson18:05
furryduckDO you mean that's what you're tyring to do?18:05
sdf30syes18:05
BeldarDGMurdock, You will have to ask the it is not supported here. But what I asked is good investigative info.18:05
Beldarthem*18:05
sdf30si have mpd and icecast play local files... problem is playing mp3s streamed from external webdav... any suggestions/ alternatives/ hacks/ scripts?18:06
furryduckyou could mound the web-dav, then create a directory of with soft-links to the files you want to play.18:06
sdf30sfuse is diabled on my server18:06
BeldarDGMurdock, I might suggest you just install ubuntu, way more support.18:06
furryduckoh.18:06
DGMurdockBeldar,  no i dont think there are any installers open not sure if there are any broken packages18:06
BeldarDGMurdock, we are done your not supported here is all. ;)18:07
Beldaryou're*18:07
furryduckyou could use rsync to sync a remote directory with the songs you want with a local one.18:08
furryduckcreate a cron job to do this at intervals.18:08
sdf30swebdav is my only option .. i have no contro over the external server18:08
furryduckyou could use 'cadaver'18:08
furryduckto sync the files.18:09
sdf30si used HTTP::DAV and dave to sync files but it is not automated when I want to play dynamic playlists on the fly ... how do I script dave/cadaver?18:10
sdf30show do I mentain an index on my server pointing to external webdav collection (several GBs)18:11
sdf30smaintain*18:11
sdf30splay me song 67, 228, 752, 3 from webdav... for eg18:12
furryduckand you want to queue them up on the fly, while playing?18:12
sdf30syes, mpd cannot create a database since fuse is not feasible18:13
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sdf30sIf only I could create hooks to the thousands of webdav files and proxy it to mpd on the fly18:14
sdf30smpc add doesnot accept webdav links .... only plain http links to stream18:14
sdf30smpd queries the proxy which fetches it the filestream from webdav18:15
sdf30sEXTERNAL webdav >> proxy >> mpd >> icecast... the proxy is only my way of representing my problem since mpd does not talk webdav nor can webdav be mounted which will again waste a lot of bandwidth indexing over the internet for tags18:17
furryduckhere's the man-page for cadaver: http://linux.die.net/man/1/cadaver18:17
sdf30sit requires user input iirc ... i want my proxy to know which nested subdirectory to look for to fetch the filestream18:18
furryduckhere's a scripting example for cadaver: http://robertmarkbramprogrammer.blogspot.com/2010/09/using-webdav-and-cadaver-with-dotcms.html18:19
furryduckcadaver is both interactive, and scriptable18:20
sdf30si see... i gave up cavader and picked dave because it does not recurse directories18:20
furryduckthe same principl applies to scripting dave.18:21
furryduckwith the <<EOF and such18:21
studmufdoes anyone know how to extend a folder using a second drive?18:21
sdf30slets assume I can fetch the file one by one to be played back using dave/ cadaver... how do i instruct mpd to play these automatically one after another based on playlistsw?18:22
furryduckI'm not familiear with mpd, but you could try a for loop, reading a file in bash.18:22
furryduckI'm pretty sure when bash does a for loop on the lines in a file, it doesn't read the next line until it's processed the previous one.18:23
sdf30show do I do callbacks that mpd is done playing to queue next download18:23
sdf30show do i maintain an index of thousands of file locations within the webdav?18:23
furryduckI'm not familiar with MPD, so I don't know.18:24
furryducksorry18:24
sdf30sindex on my server to query and create playlists?18:24
sdf30smy question is on the file caching side ... not the playback side18:24
furryduckyou could use find or locate18:24
furryduckfind /path/to/music18:24
sdf30son a huge webdav collection?18:24
furryduckoh, right, no remote bash access18:25
sdf30sindexing, fetching, caching (downloading using cadaver/dave) is one part of the problem18:26
sdf30scaching I can figure out by using say a /tmp location18:26
sdf30sfetching can be automated IF I know where to look for inside the huge webdav containing thousands of complicated paths18:27
mannershelp my ubuntu install seems screwed up18:27
mannersi can upgrade r get anything from apt18:27
mannersits 12.10 which i know needs to be updated18:27
sdf30sindexing is a means to keep a telephone directory whereby I can query and queue the files inside /tmp18:28
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Psil0Cybinhey guys i typed route in my terminal and i see this in the list18:29
Psil0Cybinpacone13.mailin18:29
Psil0Cybinwhat would that be?18:29
Psil0Cybinabove link-local18:29
Psil0Cybinits a local gateway..18:29
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mannersif i try to do sudo apt-get update i get loads of errors like this Failed to fetch http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/quantal-security/universe/binary-i386/Packages  404  Not Found [IP: 91.189.88.153 80]18:30
mannersplease anyone can you help18:31
SchrodingersScat!quantal | manners18:31
ubottumanners: Ubuntu 12.10 (Quantal Quetzal) was the 17th release of Ubuntu.  Support ended on May 16th, 2014. See !eol, !upgrade and http://ubottu.com/y/quantal18:31
mannersbut i cant do-release-upgrade either18:31
mannersChecking for a new Ubuntu release18:32
mannersNo new release found18:32
manners!upgrade18:32
ubottuFor upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes - see also http://www.ubuntu.com/desktop/get-ubuntu/upgrade18:32
SchrodingersScat!eol | manners, check the EOLupgrade page18:32
ubottumanners, check the EOLupgrade page: End-Of-Life is the time when security updates and support for an Ubuntu release stop, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Releases for more information. Looking to upgrade from an EOL release? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EOLUpgrades18:32
OerHeks!eolupgrade | manners18:32
ubottumanners: End-Of-Life is the time when security updates and support for an Ubuntu release stop, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Releases for more information. Looking to upgrade from an EOL release? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EOLUpgrades18:32
OerHeksif you add old-release, you might be able to upgrade.18:32
ciphergothRecently upgraded to 14.04, and "ping localhost" returns "ping: unknown host localhost". There is a localhost entry in /etc/hosts. Any ideaS?18:33
jhutchinsciphergoth: Have you messed with /etc/resolv.conf?18:34
sdf30show do i maintain an index of thousands of file locations within the webdav to automatically cache by fetching the indexed webdav paths using dave/cadaver?18:34
ciphergothjhutchins, resolv.conf says it's generated by resolvconf(8)18:35
ciphergoththere's nothing in resolv.conf to say read /etc/hosts so maybe it doesn't18:35
jhutchinsciphergoth: Sorry, thinking of nsswitch not resolv.conf18:36
ciphergothhosts:          files mdns4_minimal [NOTFOUND=return] dns mdns418:36
ciphergothI haven't touched it18:37
Beldarmanners, That is a long upgrade to a supported, 14.04 just be aware and backed up.18:38
mannersFailed to fetch http://old-releases.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/quantal-security/multiverse/binary-i386/Packages  404  Not Found18:40
mannersgrrrr18:40
mannersi cant even do the upgrade as described18:40
OerHeksbackup your data and do a fresh install18:41
mannershmmm only problem with that is its a remote server18:41
mannerswhy would it say not found18:45
aeyesihi, um can someone help a little bit with 5.1 sound on 14.04? ah guess i need to switch from alsa to pulseaudio but meh how to make pulseaudio by default <,<18:45
Kytes01hi18:49
Kytes01can i run ubuntu from pendrive as a normal system?18:49
Kytes01I mean everything what i change will be saved on pendrive18:49
ianorlinthere is persistent isos18:50
bazhang!usb | Kytes0118:50
ubottuKytes01: For information about installing Ubuntu from USB flash drives, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromUSBStick - For a persistent live USB install, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LiveUsbPendrivePersistent18:50
bazhangKytes01, see the part about persistent18:50
Kytes01ok18:51
Kytes01or if not persistent because it demands iso, can i just install ubuntu on it with grub?18:51
rifqeehi18:51
ianorlinyes but not sure how long a usb stick will last with full install and not get worn out18:52
bazhangKytes01, did you read the link?18:52
rifqeehow to hide ip?18:52
Kytes01ok i will see that link18:52
Kytes01thanks for help18:52
bazhangrifqee, on IRC?18:52
rifqeeat ubuntu im new user18:52
bazhanghide ip where rifqee18:53
ianorlinon irc?18:53
rifqeewhat is irc? sory im not american18:53
bazhangrifqee, this is irc18:53
ianorlininternet relay chat what you are on now rifqee18:53
rifqeei mean on any website18:54
indoctrinatedVPN is a good place to start18:54
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rifqeethe anonymous used to hide ip18:55
indoctrinatedIf you want to hide your IP for web traffic, consider a VPN solution, or TOR. Neither one is foolproof, though.18:55
rifqeeis there have any free vpn?18:56
indoctrinatedThere are, but you have to look around.18:56
rifqeebut many for windows18:57
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rifqeecan ubuntu hack wifi?18:57
indoctrinatedIf you use a VPN service, you can configure NetworkManager to use it I believe (I can't check; I'm on a Win 8 machine at work)18:57
rifqeeok18:58
Kira9204FRee VPN? I pretty much guarantee that they aren't safe18:59
Kira9204there are several cheap VPN solutions18:59
rifqeewitch is better VPN?19:00
expungebettervpn.cx19:00
rifqeeok19:01
rifqeebettervpn.com?19:02
expungebettervpn.co.uk19:03
emxon my 14.04 lts compiz is using lots of cpu resources. what can i do about it?19:04
bazhang!notunity | emx19:05
ubottuemx: Ubuntu 11.10 and higher use the !Unity desktop environment by default.  To use GNOME Shell instead, install the "gnome-shell" package and investigate "gnome-tweak-tool".  For GNOME Fallback mode, which is similar to GNOME 2, install "gnome-panel". Both packages will place entries in the Sessions dropdown.19:05
aeyesiemx i guess....graphic drivers?19:05
expungeemx: use something else19:05
emxaeyesi, was fine with 12.1019:05
johan`I have an issue where the pwd box for log in doesn't appear after going out of sleep mode (opening laptop up after having it closed). My mouse appears and the computer is fully functional otherwise. Does anyone here know if there's a key command to force the pwd box to appear? Ubuntu 12.0419:05
aeyesiah silly was just idea (:19:05
johan`PS. This is not a constant issue, sometimes it does appear19:06
aeyesiI wish to make work 5.1 sound xD19:06
emxbtw: by cpu resources i mean up to 400 % of an octa core19:06
aeyesiemx  maybie CPU render the unity...19:06
aeyesiwhich mean graphic card is taking break cuz it has no drivers19:06
aeyesibut its just idea19:06
aeyesi>.<19:06
ViziteyHelp please. I can ser wife. At the beginning it worked. But now not19:07
aeyesiser?19:07
ViziteySet19:07
bazhangwifi?19:07
ViziteyYes19:07
aeyesiaha wifii19:07
Vizitey))19:08
codephobichi19:08
aeyesiquick tips19:08
codephobicis there a hardware channel on irc?19:08
ViziteyHelp please19:08
bazhang!wifi | Vizitey19:08
ubottuVizitey: Wireless documentation, including how-to guides and troubleshooting information, can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs19:08
bazhangcodephobic, ##hardware19:08
aeyesiright click on network manager > manage connection19:08
codephobicI'm having some problems with my new system19:08
codephobicah, thanks bazhang19:08
aeyesiand delete you're conection to reset it*19:08
aeyesithen try to connect again19:08
ViziteyThanks19:08
rifqeehow to hack wifi?19:09
penginhey guys, quick question. I have a service (gollum) that I'm starting with a script in init.d. The service starts fine, but I also see the script still running when I do a ps -A.19:09
penginis there a way to get the script to close itself once it has run?19:09
expungerifqee: by hacking it19:09
rifqeeyeah. but how?19:09
expungepengin: hrmm?19:10
bazhang!ot | rifqee19:10
ubotturifqee: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!19:10
bazhangrifqee, thats not supported here. please stop asking19:11
penginexpunge: sorry if that was confusing. basically, im seeing the script I use in init.d (gollum.sh) still listed on the running processes on my server19:11
expungepengin: what's it do?19:11
pengin#!/bin/bash19:12
pengincd /home/ubuntu/gollum19:12
pengin/usr/local/bin/gollum19:12
penginexpunge: really basic script, just does the above19:12
penginchanges to a directory and starts a servicew19:13
expungewell that seems useless19:13
expungebut you could look into bash's 'exit'19:13
penginawesome, that looks like what I need. thanks for helping with the n00b question19:14
UsQUEHi anyone using SoftEther VPN maybe? I want to change the listen to my eth1 device but dont find any option how to do :S19:20
mihailzethello!19:26
expungeHOLA!19:26
mihailzetuse qutim?19:27
expungeno, but I use libpurple sometimes19:29
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JordanJ2Does someone know where I can find the default 14.04 sources.list?19:37
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unopastealuno1 you have been muted for 60 seconds as it looks like you are pasting lots of lines into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com and paste just the URL of your data here when you are unmuted19:37
bob3JordanJ2 thinks in /etc/apt/19:38
JordanJ2Yes, but I corrupted that one19:38
OerHeksJordanJ2, generate one here http://repogen.simplylinux.ch/19:39
bob3well i usually sudo cp mine from the desktop to there19:39
OerHeksmain restricted universe multiverse security (backports) partner extra's19:40
JordanJ2Ah okay19:41
JordanJ2Would htop be in main?19:41
OerHeks!info htop19:41
ubottuhtop (source: htop): interactive processes viewer. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.0.2-3 (trusty), package size 65 kB, installed size 185 kB19:41
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rwwJordanJ2: universe19:42
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frainfreezehi, I have windows and ubuntu on hard disk, only one, how to delete evrything so I can istall all new?19:48
Bashing-omfrainfreeze: You do not "have" to do anything IF ubuntu is to be the sole OS . Boot the liveDVD(USB) -> install, choose "erase disk and install ubuntu" . boom, done.19:50
frainfreezecool , thanks19:50
Bashing-omfrainfreeze: In the event you are going to dual boot // easiest is to install Windows first, then from the ubuntu installer -> choose "install along side" .19:52
frainfreezeok bashing-om. thanks19:57
ahmadgbghi, im having a very weird problem. Im currently installing Ubuntu Server 14.04. While partitioning and choosing "physical volume for RAID" im not able to change the bootflag to "on". i cant even choose "primary" or "logical" partition. help?19:59
TuplanollaI have an annoying problem. Trying to "apt-get remove lightdm" forces me to install mdm and "apt-get remove mdm" forces me to reinstall lightdm. I want to get rid of all display managers and use a tty to log in.20:00
ulkeshI am running Ubuntu 14.04.1, with three displays.  Is it possible to have a separate wallpaper per display?  I tried SyncWall, but it seems to want to stretch/crop/etc a single image.  I'd prefer to use three separate images (one per display).20:01
zivesteroy.. when is 14.04.1 gonna be prompting 12.04 :-/20:02
Bashing-omfreanux: : )20:03
Bashing-omahmadgbg: Hey, are you installing on hardware rais, or software raid ( ubuntu, dmraid) ?20:06
ahmadgbgBashing-om, software20:06
VivekanandaHey everyone . trying to install samba and samba system cofig in ubuntu 12.04 but does not work. Can someone help . https://gist.github.com/vvikramjhu/d6b2f60c4d85ac6ac98220:06
ahmadgbgBashing-om, i read that i can fix it by partitioning the disk before the installation with gparted. going to try it :P20:07
Bashing-omahmadgbg: I am hunting up the docs I used long ago to set up raid. brb20:09
ahmadgbgBashing-om, thanks :P20:09
Bashing-omahmadgbg: Have a read here : https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/SoftwareRAID , Old but still good .20:12
KLVTZIn your own opinion, or perhaps best practice, where should backup files live on an ubuntu instance for production?20:13
KLVTZBasically, I would like to make a backup of all my project files somewhere else in my remote host, but where is a coherent place to put it?20:13
henry__exit20:13
geirhaKLVTZ: /var/backup maybe20:15
ahmadgbgBashing-om, will try it20:15
Bashing-omKLVTZ: "production" machine "best practice -> off the machine and off the premise . ( machines break, fires happen ) .. importatnat data is importance ) .20:15
KLVTZgeirha: thanks! I was thinking the var folder20:16
KLVTZBashing-om: Oh I've made a relentless amount of backups on other devices off of production.20:16
KLVTZI remember square space, when first starting out, had their servers in water because of a hurrican20:17
KLVTZit's interesting what may face our data in a diseaster like that20:17
Bashing-omKLVTZ: Yeah ! Depending on the level of protection .. 3 backups in 3 locations .20:18
geirhaI interpreted it as "backup for when I accidentally rm(1)"20:18
geirhain which case a local filesystem makes restoring easy20:19
penginwhen a new crontab gets created, does the cron service need to be restarted?20:19
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geirhapengin: no, but it may take a minute or two for it to notice the change20:19
geirhaso if you're making a testjob, put it 3 minutes in the future20:20
geirha(or more)20:20
penginim trying to get this job to run every 5 minutes, but no go =/20:20
pengin*/5 * * * * /home/ubuntu/gollum/.sync.sh20:20
dsdaThe MOTD on -server suggests that landscape is enabled by default and that one can access through landscape.canonical.com. <--- I'm hoping this isn't true?20:20
geirhapengin: check /var/log/syslog, see if the CRON job is run there20:22
geirhae.g. grep CRON /var/log/syslog20:22
geirhapengin: most likely, cron runs the script, but the script fails because it's lacking some environment variables20:23
penginit looks like only cron.hourly20:24
penginthe script works fine when launched manually20:24
geirhapengin: http://askubuntu.com/a/23438/901620:24
Vivekanandaanyone care to comment on my problem20:24
geirhapengin: which crontab is it btw, the one you change with crontab -e ?20:24
pengingeirha: yeah20:24
pengincrontab -e20:25
geirhapengin: change it to:   */5 * * * * /home/ubuntu/gollum/.sync.sh >/home/ubuntu/gollumsync.log 2>&120:25
geirhathat should catch any error messages, if any. If you install an MTA, it will also mail you the output when it fails20:26
benccwhat is ubuntuupdates.org? http://www.ubuntuupdates.org/package/core/trusty/universe/backports/haproxy20:26
rwwbencc: a third-party website that scrapes data from Ubuntu and Launchpad servers20:27
pengingeirha: just tried that, Ill see what comes out, thanks20:27
geirhapengin: On a side note, you should avoid adding extensions to commands. E.g. no .sh at the end of the script filename20:27
benccrww: I can't find haproxy 1.5 backport on trusty20:27
benccrww: http://packages.ubuntu.com/trusty-backports/all/haproxy20:27
rwwbencc: Do you have backports enabled on your system?20:28
pengingeirha: okay, I can do that. what's the reasoning behind not adding extensions?20:28
benccrww: I meant the link to the package. but I think it's here http://packages.ubuntu.com/trusty-backports/haproxy20:28
geirhapengin: http://www.talisman.org/~erlkonig/documents/commandname-extensions-considered-harmful20:28
benccrww: can I enable backports for only a single package?20:28
rwwbencc: yes, that's the default mode of operation20:28
geirhapengin: also a bit odd that the file is "hidden" (starts with a .)20:28
rwwbencc: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuBackports has all the info. once you get it set up, sudo apt-get install haproxy/trusty-backports should work20:29
benccrww: how do I install this package?20:29
rwwbencc: I'm about to go AFK, but that page and the other folks here should be able to help if you have questions about the process :)20:29
benccrww: thanks :)20:29
benccbackport packages are updated with each ubuntu release?20:31
dsdaThe MOTD on -server says that the server can be managed through landscape.canonical.com20:31
dsdaI'm hoping this isn't enabled by default?20:31
Vivekanandahello everyone20:32
BeldarVivekananda, You are not new here follow the rule of just reposting, no help me please no hellos.20:33
VivekanandaBeldar: hmmm I was waiting for the time limit to be off before doing that  anyways here is the repost20:34
VivekanandaHey everyone . trying to install samba and samba system cofig in ubuntu 12.04 but does not work. Can someone help . https://gist.github.com/vvikramjhu/d6b2f60c4d85ac6ac98220:34
BeldarVivekananda, Nice try you were trying to get attention. You are a user of the channel you never give help that is okay just follow the norm. The wait time is 10 min, you were well wilthin  a repost of it.20:36
VivekanandaBeldar: you mean to say I never give out help ? if that is what you mean that I dont coz I dont usually know the correct answer or I wouldnt be asing so many questions :)20:37
andybrineHi Everyone20:38
andybrineIm on Gnome Shell and there is no system tray on the top panel, is there a way to add that?20:39
mikeg3Hi...I think I need to edit my /etc/gshadow file.  I am not well versed in command line editing.  Are there any GUI options that would work?  Thanks in advance.20:39
phunyguyandybrine: the systemtray reveals at the bottom20:40
phunyguypush the mouse to the edge of the screen on the bottom20:40
andybrineim trying that but it doesnt show up20:40
phunyguyno idea then.20:41
phunyguybut that's where it is20:41
andybrineOh ok. Thanks phunyguy20:41
BeldarVivekananda, So can I assume are at least at a 5-6 year old cognitive level where we learn to get in line and wait out turn?20:45
Beldarour*20:45
ahmadgbgBashing-om, thanks! worked like a charm20:47
andybrineHas anyone come across this message when trying to add shell extentions "We cannot detect a running copy of GNOME on this system"20:47
VivekanandaBeldar: I am not following you. But that is fine coz I want to stick to the topic of asking. If there is something relevant that I need to observe let me know that directly.20:47
Beldarandybrine, Stuff from the extensions go there, check the website.20:47
Vivekanandaby topic I mean the samba issue I am having20:47
BeldarVivekananda, You are responsible for acting like an adult here and following the channels rules like everyone else, please start doing so.20:48
Bashing-omahmadgbg: Great ... and - up up and away !20:49
Beldarandybrine, Some things may go in the transparent popup on the bottom if you like.20:49
Vivekanandaokay that was clearer thanks. I will look into the rules again20:50
Vivekanandathere used to be a page for this channel rules  cant seem to find. can someone ping me the link20:51
mikeg3Hi...I think I need to edit my /etc/gshadow file.  I am not well versed in command line editing.  Are there any GUI options that would work?  Thanks in advance.20:51
Bashing-ommikeg3: What is prompting you to consider editing "/etc/gshadow" ? file  /etc/gshadow -> /etc/gshadow: regular file, no read permission .20:51
kostkon!guidelines | Vivekananda20:52
ubottuVivekananda: The guidelines for using the Ubuntu channels can be found here: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/Guidelines20:52
mikeg3Bashing, currently I can log in without a password.  Even though I want a password.  I want to fix that ASAP!20:53
Bashing-ommikeg3: I do not run a GUI, but as I recall, there is a check box in " user accounts" to control that behaviour (??) .20:54
mikeg3Bashing, been  there tried that in User accounts...no effect20:55
mikeg3Bashing,  check this article, which I am attempting to follow  http://askubuntu.com/questions/106428/how-to-disable-automatic-login20:56
OerHeksmikeg3, just enable autologin, and you will need no password to boot.20:58
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guntbertOerHeks: he wants it the other way round20:58
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Bashing-ommikeg3: look'n / brb20:59
mikeg3OerHeks, I want the exact opposite....It is logging me in automatically and I caNNOT MAKE IT STOP20:59
alexThunderi can't get the open-source radeon driver to work anymore. if i try to modprobe it, it says "ERROR: could not insert 'radeon': Invalid argument". i got hybrid graphics (intel integrated and a 7970m dedicated) - can someone help me?21:02
WXZ1how do I remove a packages and all it's dependencies (which aren't dependencies of any other package not to be removed)?21:06
Bashing-ommikeg3: I can add nothing to what the askubuntu link advises, sorry.21:06
Bashing-omalexThunder: hybrid graphics ! Have you seen : http://askubuntu.com/questions/205112/how-do-i-get-amd-intel-hybrid-graphics-drivers-to-work/288355#288355 ?21:07
guntbertWXZ1: sudo apt-get remove <packagename>    and then   sudo apt-get autoremove21:07
deitarionIs there a 14.04 equivalent to the 12.04 com.ubuntu.update-notifier.hide-reboot-notification key? The only answers I'll accept are "Yes, here it is" or "No. You may now rip out the update manager and clone its functionality using apt-get and shell scripts"21:07
alexThunderBashing-om: yes, but thats about the catalyst/proprietary driver. It works, but i now want to use the foss driver (again - it used to work just a couple of hours ago)21:09
mikeg3Bashing, do you think I am running afoul of some permissions issue maybe?21:09
Bashing-omalexThunder: Open source efforts: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Config/HybridGraphics .21:10
WXZ1how do I remove a packages and all it's dependencies (which aren't dependencies of any other package not to be removed)?21:10
WXZ1a package*21:10
deitarion...or I suppose I could just configure my window manager to deny the "please reboot now" window permission to appear.21:10
guntbertWXZ1: I told you already,you need to read what is said :)21:11
WXZ1guntbert: it kicked me21:11
guntbertWXZ1: sudo apt-get remove <packagename>    and then   sudo apt-get autoremove21:11
WXZ1but how does autoremove know which packages are dependencies21:12
alexThunderBashing-om: it only tells me to install fglrx21:12
WXZ1and which packages I actually installed?21:12
VivekanandaI tried looking at uubntu channel guidelines for time after which a question can be repeated but did not find anything specific.  I hope I am in time to ask my question again.21:13
guntbertWXZ1: there is a flag in the package system - for automatically/manually installed21:13
WXZ1I see21:13
usr13mikeg3: gksudo gedit21:13
Vivekanandatrying to install samba and samba system cofig in ubuntu 12.04 but does not work. Can someone help . https://gist.github.com/vvikramjhu/d6b2f60c4d85ac6ac98221:13
Bashing-omalexThunder: I doubt it is a permission issue .. by those numbers in the link : have you looked at "/etc/lightdm/lightdm.conf" see if it requires editing ? ( next ??)21:14
usr13mikeg3: But what exactly do you need to do?21:14
WXZ1then I guess I don't have any unused packages because autoremove told me I don't. :|21:14
guntbertWXZ1: seems to be the case21:15
Bashing-omalexThunder: sorry bout that one .. mikeg3 ^^ .21:16
alexThunderBashing-om: np, I already figured21:16
mikeg3I am not sure what to do other than follow the suggestion in the article with the green checkmark; unfortunately my commandline skill is weak21:17
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alexThunderis there actually channel for foss radeon driver support?21:17
BeldaralexThunder, no21:18
BeanzeroHello :)21:19
usr13mikeg3: You should not avoid learning comandline methods, (they are usually not that hard).21:19
deitarionGiven how fast this channel moves, I'm going to assume that I'm not getting any answers for how to disable reboot nags in update-manager and move on to replacing it with apt-get, a zenity dialog for GUI, and shell scripting.21:19
usr13mikeg3: You might even enjoy learning.21:19
BeldaralexThunder, I do see a #radeon21:19
evilbugjust to double check, lts versions are now supported 3 years from the point release and not the initial release yes?21:19
mikeg3maybe a gksu primer21:20
kostkon!patience | deitarion21:20
ubottudeitarion: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. While you wait, try searching https://help.ubuntu.com or http://ubuntuforums.org or http://askubuntu.com/21:20
alexThunderBeldar, yes, thanks. I just found it too21:20
deitarionkostkon: In a slower-moving channel, I'd wait. Here, I'm pretty anybody who actually saw my question has had ample time to answer it.21:20
usr13mikeg3: Continue to build on your knowledge, just learn one task at a time.21:21
Beldardeitarion, Reboots are generally kernel related, a few other instances, you can have a no reboot for kernels.21:21
usr13mikeg3: If you feel adventurous, try vimtutor21:21
Bashing-omalexThunder: Mind you I do not know, as I do not have direct experience, but I would think that one would have to move the xorg.conf file out of the way, disable a graphics set in bios, and (re-)install the foss driver for the then available graphics (??)21:22
deitarionBeldar: If I didn't need a newer GCC and glibc, I'd still be on 12.04 where it allows you to turn off the reboot nags.21:22
Beanzeroi donno if its firefox or ubuntu but try to visit www.soundcloud.com and listen to music it cant start21:22
kostkonevilbug, 5 years in total21:22
Beldardeitarion, This a uptime thing?21:23
pi2hello21:23
alexThunderBashing-om, Well, i did this already :D21:23
evilbugBeanzero: have you tried another browser?21:23
user1415is there any GPU video converter available,/21:23
pi2/quit21:23
evilbugkostkon: ah, ok. gotcha.21:23
droid909guys, if my ubuntu in vmware and i want to expend its fs, i added space in vmware to my virtual hdd, now i've installed system-config-lvm and can open it as root, but everythig is greyed out, why can't i edit anything?21:23
droid909ubuntu is guest21:23
Bashing-omalexThunder: OK, so we need to look at what is available and what driver is loaded ?21:24
deitarionBeldar: It's a "refuse to choose between losing my focus to a popup and losing my focus to having to tear down and then rebuild my entire session" thing.21:24
usr13user1415: We probably don't even know what a GPU video converter is.21:24
Beanzeroevilbug: nope21:24
Beanzerolet me do that21:24
droid909is there an easyer way?21:24
Beldardeitarion, Oh, I thin they have meds for that. ;)21:24
Beldarthink*21:24
deitarionBeldar: In 12.04, I could relegate it to a tray icon which I could deal with on my own terms.21:24
evilbugBeanzero: my firefox works fine on os x.21:24
usr13user1415: What is it you need to do?21:24
alexThunderBashing-om, I guess. lsmod doesn't say anything about radeon. When I try to modprobe radeon, it says "ERROR: could not insert 'radeon': Invalid argument"21:25
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user1415usr13: sorry, didnt hit the asksign..   I mean a converter that is using the GPU to convert videos (all I tried are using cpu only)21:25
deitarionBeldar: Plus, you're looking at someone who used to run KDE 3.5, then switched to LXDE when KDE 4.x was too heavy. I'm fully willing to reinvent any and every component on my desktop that doesn't acknowledge my authority. I refuse to let a patronizing update nagger defy me.21:26
Bashing-omalexThunder: My thohgt process is -> lspci -nnk | grep -iA3 vga , sudo lshw -C display <- .21:26
evilbugBeanzero: plus do you have flashblock enabled for soundcloud?21:26
Bashing-omthought*21:26
Beanzeroevilbug: sorry for wasting your time21:26
Beanzerofirefox is the prob21:26
evilbugBeanzero: what specifically?21:27
user1415usr13: nvidia gpu21:27
Beanzeroidn21:27
Beanzerosoundcloud just dosnt work with ubuntu = firfox21:27
evilbugBeanzero: i'd like to know why exactly still :(21:28
alexThunderBashing-om, http://paste.ubuntu.com/7992195/21:28
Bashing-omalexThunder: Look'n at your 7992195/ .21:28
Beanzeroevilbug: explain21:28
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Beanzeroi have java + flashback21:28
Beanzerono flashblock21:28
usr13user1415: https://libav.org/21:28
evilbugBeanzero: if you whitelist soundcloud on flashblock it'll work.21:29
user1415usr13: all I found out yet, is that libav/ffmpeg only is using the gpu to decode, but not to encode21:30
Bashing-omalexThunder: I see: "Kernel driver in use: i915" that is Intel . Konfiguration: latency=0- no driver is loaded. So I "assume" ATI is disabled in bios ?21:31
bekksBashing-om: Take a look at "lspci -k" and look for ATI.21:32
alexThunderBashing-om, i don't have an option for enabling/disabling this in bios.21:32
Bashing-omalexThunder: Let's take bekks' hint and try and sort this out.21:33
alexThunderBashing-om, it says: 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD/ATI] Wimbledon XT [Radeon HD 7970M]21:33
Beanzeroevilbug: thank you but ill just go with chrome21:34
Beanzerothank you for your time21:34
evilbugquitter!21:34
PoolShark_hi all.. if I have a machine with multiple sound devices, is there a way to route some applications to one of them and other applications to the other?21:36
evilbugPoolShark_: not sure, but jack might be able to do that.21:37
Bashing-omalexThunder: Yeah, To me that indicates that the ATI card is available, and no driver is loaded for it .. I would think we need to deside which grahics set to use, and as there is no setting in bios ( strange) .. take a lokk at "/etc/X11/Xorg.conf" see if we can make heads or tails out of it.21:38
Bashing-omlokk/look*21:38
PoolShark_yeah I installed jack but it seems.... over my head21:39
mangophi21:39
Vivekanandahoping someone can comment on my issue for samba install. if there a better alternative can someone lemme know.  https://gist.github.com/vvikramjhu/d6b2f60c4d85ac6ac98221:40
alexThunderBashing-om, well, i don't have that xorg.conf anymore. I deleted it when I was uninstalling fglrx. Earlier this day I was using my intel igpu and could run stuff with the radeon using DRI_PRIME=1 <whatever>21:40
mangopUm.. I get a black screen after booting up my laptop until i press enter, which boots Ubuntu. I need the grub menu to be able to launch windows again. Can someone help me please21:41
daftykinsVivekananda: line 51 states the issue pretty clearly. does an smb.conf exist in /etc/samba/ ?21:42
TaZeRis it true cannicatal has backdoors into ubuntu21:44
TaZeRmy friend told me that i didnt believe it21:44
mangoperr.. Also for some reason the screen that says press F12 to choose what to boot first is also gone. So i can't repair using a cd...21:45
Vivekanandadaftykins: I assumed  that on installing samba it will generate the conf file not too sure though21:45
SP33Dwow changing to lubuntu desktop brings much performance gains even on high end pc's21:45
SP33Dthere need to change a lot21:46
Beldarmangop, Are you tapping the shift key on powering in to get the grub menu?21:46
Fr0ZnIs lubuntu nice SP33D?21:47
daftykinsVivekananda: that error message is pretty blatant, check if it's there and rename it if so21:47
mangopI have tried that, doesn't work, still a black screen21:47
SP33Dfrozen using it a lot but on my master work pc i tryed unity 3d because it has many graphic cards and so on21:47
SP33Dbut firefox an all freezes sometimes with lubuntu that is fixed i like it a lot21:47
SP33Dit don't looks nasty and is much faster21:48
Beldarmangop, Use nicks here to preface to whom you answering. Any clue as to why it's just black?21:48
Beldaryour*21:48
Fr0Znso good performance with hight end cpu21:48
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SP33Di hope we all the ubuntu community get soon the html interface finished so we can make a window manager in nodejs with html only21:48
Fr0Zni will try it ty21:48
mangopBeldar no idea, I checked the grub config file and anything with hidden in it is commented out if that means anything21:49
daftykinsSP33D: please take your general chat to #ubuntu-offtopic thanks21:49
Bashing-omalexThunder: I have to struggel with hybrid graphics, out of my depth here. As it stands now these is no driver (module) loaded for any graphics set. As you advise there is no menas in bios to control the graphics sets, I would think a "/etc/X11/Xorg.conf" would then be required .21:49
Bashing-omthese/there*21:49
Beldarmangop, The issue here are details, you have given virtually none.21:50
SP33Daftykins little question what part of ubuntu your coding on at present?21:50
SP33Ddaftykins little question what part of ubuntu your coding on at present?21:50
mangopBeldar err I'm not sure what details you need sorry21:50
daftykinsSP33D: that's off topic here, support questions only thanks21:50
Beldarmangop, What is the graphic harsware?21:51
Beldarhardware*21:51
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alexThunderBashing-om, uh oh :D uhm ... liken this? http://paste.ubuntu.com/7992376/21:52
mangopBeldar it's a laptop so its Intel Ironlake Mobile21:52
mangopBeldar also the menu has shown up before21:53
mangopit used to work and for some reason it doesn't now...21:53
Beldarmangop, Did you modify the graphic drivers since it worked and now, when not working?21:53
mangopBeldar nope, I haven't even used this laptop for months21:54
SP33Dthen simpy list all files that are modifyed scince thats month21:57
SP33Dor in the last month21:57
SP33Dcant be so much21:57
Bashing-omalexThunder: Beats me, all I know to do is expeiment/ what is currently "Kernel driver in use: i915". The system is seeing the Intel graphics. How to make it see the ATI card, well I would think in 'Xorg.conf" . Maybe not enough in the file to this time to make that happen (??) .21:57
Beldarmangop, Why not just reinstall the windows bootloader to the boot either the mbr or a uefi setup what ever it is since you want the windows boot. Do you have any use for the ubuntu?21:57
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alexThunderBashing-om, i915 is (probably) the intel driver. Well, I'll just give it a try - brb22:01
Bashing-omalexbligh1: I am still think'n . What returns from ->  lsmod | grep radeon ,  lsmod | grep i915 <- ?22:02
evilbugexit22:04
alexThunderBashing-om, no luck :/ Btw. X is supposed to load the module on its own, isn't it? Since i can't even modprobe the radeon module, i think the problem isn't in the xorg.conf (well, just my thought, but i am anything but an expert on this :D)22:05
BesTtTPershendetje T'Gjithve Ketu :))22:05
BeldarBesTtT, Can you make sense in english?22:06
mangopBeldar I can't because even the boot screen is black I can't choose to boot the cd22:07
Bashing-omalexThunder: Problem being that there are 2 sets of graphics, and X can not decide on it's own what to do. If you could turn one of them off in bios, X would not have this problem.22:07
Beldarmangop, No bios splash?22:07
linuxthefishubuntu is not good for normal desktop use?22:08
mangopBeldar yeah its gone22:08
Beldarlinuxthefish, Can you parse that to an actual issue?22:08
Beldarmangop, NOt sure than myself.22:09
mangopBeldar could the kernal command thing "quite splash" have anything to do with this (in grub config)22:10
Bashing-ommangop: Black screen when booting up the liveDVD, maybe a graphics driver issue ? Have you tried booting to the liveDVD's boot options screen, and see about the options from the F6 key ?22:11
linuxthefishBeldar for laptops in general22:11
linuxthefishi switched over to ubuntu on about 50 modern laptops and nearly all of them have had issues from high fan on resume to display going blank after login22:12
Beldarlinuxthefish, Any opinion is subjective, and not really a support issue.22:12
mangopBashing-om I can't actually boot from a cd/dvd because the bios splash doesn't come up22:12
linuxthefishis there plans for more laptop support in ubuntu?22:12
OERIAS?join #ubuntu-ops22:12
gazzais there a keyboard shortcut to switch between workspaces?22:13
linuxthefishgazza ctrl + s?22:13
Beldarlinuxthefish,  This is support not polling, no attachment to ubuntu canonical.22:13
linuxthefishoh :/22:13
Beldarmangop, quiet splash is post grub menu22:14
rwwOERIAS: You may want to change your "auto-login" "script" to use / instead of ? then.22:14
Bashing-ommangop: Then that is a) hardware problems, b) Bios problem . If bios can not load and pass of to a boot loader ( LiveDVD is known good), you look at th hardware level. For sure if there is no BIOS splash screen - It has nothing yet to do with any operating system.22:15
alexThunderBashing-om, Mh, i'll tinker around with it, see how far I get. Thanks for taking some time :)22:15
Bashing-omalexThunder: regret I am no more help // let us know what goes on .. I am always open to learning.22:16
mangopBashing-om Not sure if it is hardware problems because nothing has changed or happened, I'll research more about the bios22:17
mangopThanks Beldar Bashing-om22:17
alexThunderBashing-om, If i should manage to get it working again, I'll tell you - but dont count on it :)22:17
Bashing-omalexThunder: Just because I do nopt know. others here do ! .. hang in here and see what others advise.22:17
Bashing-omnopt/not*22:18
alexThunderBashing-om, Well, I need it to be working for tomorrow. Either I get the foss driver working within the next few hours or I'll just stick with the proprietary one. Trying to get it to work will probably require some reboots, so I might miss some answers anyway22:21
frainfreeze:D22:22
frainfreezeIt is done22:22
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gdoteofi am having a weird issue with my seiki 4k display.  i can't change the resolution to 1080p, whether i do it with xrandr or the built in "displays" app.. the screen just goes black for a second and then goes back to 1080p like i never told it to do anything else22:26
ice9how to disable dash lense?22:27
gdoteofany resolution other than 2160p just resets itself22:27
pawel_sup dogs22:27
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alexThunderBashing-om, nvm, it works now. Just tried the 3.16 utopic kernel22:28
VivekanandaI am having a difficult time removing / fresh reinstalling  samba4. currently I am trying to remove it completely and here is what I see :http://pastie.org/945680322:29
Bashing-omalexThunder: Great, nother one to keep in mind: https://launchpad.net/~oibaf/+archive/graphics-drivers/ <- Updated and Optimized Open Graphics Drivers Supported Ubuntu versions:- 13.10 (saucy)& now 14.04 .22:30
alexThunderBashing-om, thanks! I'm out. Thanks (again) for your help. Wish you a good night/day/younameit :)22:31
ahmadgbgHi, im trying to connect two ubuntu pc crossover. They cant ping eachother22:31
daftykinsahmadgbg: did you statically address them both?22:31
ahmadgbgdaftykins, yes22:32
daftykinsahmadgbg: sure there are no typos?22:32
daftykinsVivekananda: 'cat /etc/issue' ?22:32
RELOADINGHello22:33
JNixxRELOADING: Hi22:33
Vivekanandadaftykins: Ubuntu 12.04.4 LTS \n \l22:33
ahmadgbgdaftykins, nothing that i can find22:34
daftykinsVivekananda: have you set yourself to receive unstable packages or something?22:34
ahmadgbgdaftykins, i have two interfaces in both pcs22:34
Vivekanandadaftykins: dont remember explicitly. is there a way I can check that ?22:34
daftykinsbug 99237122:35
ubottubug 988509 in samba4 (Ubuntu Precise) "duplicate for #992371 setoption.pl is not executable" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/98850922:35
Bashing-omahmadgbg: Common router ? see: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2159449 .22:35
daftykinsVivekananda: ^22:35
daftykinsVivekananda: /etc/apt/sources.list22:35
ahmadgbgBashing-om, crossover.22:36
daftykinsahmadgbg: what is the other interface attached to?22:36
ahmadgbgdaftykins, first pc is a web server so its connected to my router. the other port is to the backup server (the other pc)22:37
ahmadgbgdaftykins, eth0 and p3p122:37
expungeaustincb: stop spamming22:37
austincbom spamming?22:40
austincbom spamming?22:40
TaZeRhes just got a stutter22:41
expungeno, he's sending /msg's22:41
expungeto everyone who joins22:41
TaZeRi didnt get one22:42
expungeTaZeR: clearly he's a human and not a bot22:42
expungedid you not just see him question my accusation?22:42
indoctrinatedlol22:42
TaZeRyou can be both lol22:42
TaZeRa hubot22:42
expungelolololololzzzz...22:42
ice9how to disable a lense?22:43
expungeice9: which one?22:43
ice9expunge: I want to disable them all and keep the applications lens22:43
expungeyou can uninstall any you don't want22:44
expungedpkg -l | egrep -i 'unity.*?lens'22:44
indoctrinatedThat's what they want you to think. They want you to think that the they are a human masquerading as a bot, where it's actually a bot masquerading as a human masquerading as a bot.22:44
indoctrinatedDeep, man.22:44
expungeso deep22:44
indoctrinatedMarianas Trench deep22:44
Beldarso deep gotta  nap on that, yawn22:45
deitarionDone. I've now replaced the provided update notifier with a zenity+shellscript one that doesn't nag about reboots --> http://blog.ssokolow.com/archives/2014/08/08/hacking-together-a-quick-update-notifier/22:46
urdaSo uh, still no 14.04.1 updates for do-release-upgrade hm?22:46
ice9expunge: is there a way to enable/disable without uninstalling lenses?22:47
expungeice9: undoubtedly22:47
ice9expunge: how?22:47
urdado-release-upgrade doesn't show anything new on 12.04.5 :\22:48
OerHeks!nounity22:48
ubottuUbuntu 11.10 and higher use GNOME 3 with the !unity shell by default. To use GNOME Shell instead, from 12.10 and up install the "ubuntu-gnome-desktop" package. From 11.04 to 12.04, install the "gnome-shell" package and investigate "gnome-tweak-tool".  For GNOME Fallback mode, which is similar to GNOME 2, install "gnome-panel". Both packages will place entries in the Sessions dropdown. Using Natty? See !classic22:48
expungeice9: no idea, I don't use it22:48
Basketball how to automatically show/mount usb devices connected via pcmcia-usb adaper?22:53
* EvaLoTion Trading 600 LTC .. SERIOUS DEALER MSG ME ..!!22:54
feel_hey yall im having a problem with ardour3 when I start it up I get this terminal looking window called "ardour log" that says [ERROR]: JACK: Cannot use real-time scheduling (RR/5)(1:option not permitted) & [ERROR]: JACK: JackCliant::AquireSelfRealTime error any tips22:55
jak2000hi all22:55
expungehi jak22:55
expungesuppah22:55
Basketballanyone22:56
expungeBasketball: they aren't mounted automatically?22:57
expungefeel_: you could ignore it22:57
Basketballno22:57
jak2000how to configure mi gateway? http://pastie.org/9456840 i want  configure my eth0: 192.168.0.86/24 dateway: 192.168.0.254  how to?22:57
feel_expunge: I can't open or run ardour past that point22:59
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expungefeel_: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1143784&p=7857224#post785722423:02
croephaso, is there a preferred way to apt-get upgrade postgresql-server that doesn’t involve an automatic restart of the database?23:02
expungemight ask -server if nobody here speaks up23:03
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croephaexpunge: thanks23:04
expungeor even whatever's at the end of /msg alis list *postgresql*23:04
croepha /msg alis list *postgresql*23:05
sharpen047hey guys, i was hoping someone could help me with my boot issue onubuntu. its a p4 system and has been running for about 2 years now. it started yesterday and wont load past the loading mouse animation. i can move the mouse but the animation is frozen. it boots up in low graphics mode as well.23:06
Pitbull_RHi all. Thinking about installing ubuntu but have some doubts regarding my situation. Anyone have time to answer some questions?23:07
daftykinssharpen047: version? system sounds pretty old23:07
expungesharpen047: what'd you do yesterday?23:07
daftykinsPitbull_R: that's the purpose of the channel, just ask (preferably on one line)23:07
expungePitbull_R: lots of people23:07
Bashing-omPitbull_R: Ask a question, we respond is how this works.23:08
finlstrmlooking for some suggestions here. currently on ubuntu "12.04.5" but with the mainline kernel 3.2.x (system was installed on 12.04) and want to move to mainline 3.13.x like a real  12.04.5 w/ Trusty HWE... any thoughts?23:09
croephaapt-get purge is wanting to remove packages that I don’t want to remove, what do i do?23:09
Pitbull_Rexpunge: thanks. I have been a WIn user all my life, but recently I have found myself tinkering with some linux. I bought a HP Proliant MicroServer this week and the idea is to set up a small home server that will allow me to access my files from the outside, but mainly to run Plex to share my media, run SickBeard and SABnzbd and Couchpotato (and I heard something about headphones?).23:09
expungePitbull_R: about headphones?23:10
Bashing-omfinlstrm: Why ? the HWE is made available to support new hardware .23:10
expungePitbull_R: what's stopping you23:10
daftykinsfinlstrm: yeah, install the trusty HWE then23:10
expungeTaZeR: k-lined =P23:10
finlstrmwant the new kernel version23:10
finlstrmive ran sudo apt-get install linux-generic-lts-trusty linux-image-generic-lts-trusty but brakes unity23:10
Pitbull_RWell, the server came with a 250gb disk, I have a 1,5 tb disk in my current pc and it'll be going over to the server, and I'll be adding either a 3rd 4tb drive or a 3rd and 4th 2tb drives.23:11
expungePitbull_R: ah23:11
expungePitbull_R: well if you have any trouble, this is the place23:11
expungealthough server installs are even simpler23:11
Pitbull_RWill I be able to set up raid with these drives and have some sort of redundancy?23:11
expungePitbull_R: yes... but RAID isn't really about redundancy of _data_, it's about redundancy of _access_23:12
expungewhich is probably not really what you're after23:12
Pitbull_RNo :(23:12
expungePitbull_R: a good backup system, though, yes, good idea23:12
Pitbull_RI want to keep the data safe.23:12
daftykinsi'd disagree with that statement23:12
expungedaftykins: yeah but you'd be wrong23:12
daftykinsif you bought 2 x 2TB disks they could be mirrored, so if one died you'd still have the other23:12
expungeRAID kills drives, it is not about protecting data, not unless you can afford to instantly replace a drive in a _very_ large array23:12
daftykinsbut you've still got to back that up separately, so perhaps that's what expunge is getting at with his rude approach23:13
expungerude?...23:13
Pitbull_RInitially I was thinking unRAID but figured out that any which way I cut it, I will always lose a tone of space.23:13
expungePitbull_R: you can backup important stuff with the space you can use equally on each, and use the rest for stuff you don't care about23:13
Pitbull_RI guess that is one way to go. Would it be possible to partition the 2TB drives equally, say 250GB - 1750GB, then have the 250GB partitions set in mirror?23:16
Bashing-omfinlstrm: "ive ran sudo apt-get install linux-generic-lts-trusty linux-image-generic-lts-trusty but brakes unity" you need Xserver and Graphics support also : sudo apt-get install --install-recommends linux-generic-lts-trusty xserver-xorg-lts-trusty libgl1-mesa-glx-lts-trusty .23:16
expungePitbull_R: yup23:16
expungeanything is possible in software23:16
expungeand that's both possible and simple23:16
jak2000expunge any advice?23:16
finlstrmBashing-om: thanks, ill give that a try. forgot about graphics23:17
expungejak2000: sorry I don't know anything about Ubuntu's network configs23:17
expungejak2000: ask again23:17
expungesomeone in the channel will know23:17
hollenjfI made two DVD-R videos with a sony camcorder. I cant seem to mount.. or get any feedback on dmesg when inserting the dvd-d into the dvd drive23:17
Dickenswhats the question jak200023:17
expungehollenjf: you know the device path?23:17
hollenjfexpunge: yes..: /dev/sd023:18
expungeDickens: jak2000 | how to configure mi gateway? http://pastie.org/9456840 i want  configure my eth0: 192.168.0.86/24 dateway: 192.168.0.254  how to?23:18
expungehollenjf: the camcorder said it was making a video dvd?23:18
hollenjfexpunge: yes.. indeed, and it even had on camcorder playback.23:18
Dickensjak2000 /etc/network/interfaces23:19
expungehollenjf: and video DVDs ordinarily work on this bxo?23:19
Dickensexcuse me sudo pico /etc/network/interfaces23:19
hollenjfexpunge: yes23:19
Dickensjak2000 is your eth0 set to static?23:19
expungehollenjf: okay, try this: sudo apt-get install mplayer; mplayer -dvd-device /dev/sd0 dvd://23:19
Dickensjak2000: also are you using ubuntu desktop or ubuntu server?23:20
hollenjfexpunge: ok..; will try.. thx!   :)23:20
Pitbull_REven something crazy like the 250GB partitions in raid 1 (mirror) and the rest, the 2x 1750GB partitions and the 1500GB drive) in a spanned single drive (raid0) formation? The 250GB I'd reserve for OS.23:20
expungePitbull_R: you can do whatever23:22
fred89first sry for my bad englisch. can someone pls tell me how i can change the fontcolor of the search?  it's white and i cant see anything -.-23:23
Pitbull_Rexpunge: sounds interesting. Would you say it's something a relative Linux newb like me could set up or does it still involve a metric shit ton of file editing and all that :)23:23
fred89unity tweak tool is installed, but i cant find the option..23:23
expungePitbull_R: I don't see why you'd have any particular trouble with it23:24
hollenjfexpunge: it claims no stream found23:24
sharpen047daftykins: expunge : 10.04. all i did was start it up. its a bit old yes.23:25
ahmadgbgLooking for a good backup solution, anyone?23:25
expungeahmadgbg: rdiff-backup23:25
Pitbull_RRegarding my current 1,5TB drive, I guess I can't just add it to the span since it's NTFS, so I suppose I'd have to first set up the 2x 1.75TB span first, copy my files over from the 1.5TB, then format and add that one to the span?23:25
Basketball how to automatically show/mount usb devices connected via pcmcia-usb adaper?23:25
expungehollenjf: mmm23:25
expungehollenjf: could be some odd format, I s'pose23:26
daftykinssharpen047: 10.04 desktop is not supported.23:26
ahmadgbgexpunge, is this between two pc?23:26
sharpen047daftykins: right. unfortunately i cant upgrade23:26
expungeahmadgbg: if need be23:26
expungeahmadgbg: one tool per job, that's the best way =)23:26
* expunge has to go23:26
daftykinssharpen047: we cannot support EOL releases23:27
feeltrying to get jack working  *warning* ogg module not installed, ogg support disabled23:27
feelThis is jack 3.1.123:27
sharpen047daftykins: alright darn. Thanks anyways!23:27
feeloops hit enter too soon23:28
daftykinssharpen047: you could install lubuntu 14.0423:28
sharpen047daftykins: i cant upgrade because its a cnc computer. running EMC23:28
fred89first sry for my bad englisch. can someone pls tell me how i can change the fontcolor of the search?  it's white and i cant see anything -.-23:28
feeltrying to get jack working  when I run "jack" in terminal I get "*warning* ogg module not installed, ogg support disabled this is jack 3.1.1"23:29
Pitbull_RRegarding my current 1,5TB drive, I guess I can't just add it to the span since it's NTFS, so I suppose I'd have to first set up the 2x 1.75TB span first, copy my files over from the 1.5TB, then format and add that one to the span?23:30
ice9how to add desktop session in lightdm for a new installed one?23:30
sharpen047daftykins: its running a realtime kernel. i just figured it shouldnt be too hard to diagnose since low graphics worked.23:31
furier_websync - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=815361923:33
daftykinssharpen047: yeah, but as it's out of support we can't really do anything about it. only server of 10.04 is still supported - but even then only until April of 201523:33
sharpen047daftykins: alright worth a shot right? any chance you could take a guess and i can look into it myself? its either that or lose all my settings and reinstall.23:35
jak2000Dickens: Ubuntu desktop23:36
sharpen047daftykins: actually. is 12.04 supported?23:36
jak2000Dickens i see my eth0 in /etc/network/interfaces right?23:36
daftykinssharpen047: sure is23:36
daftykinssharpen047: realtime kernel on a CNC machine seems a bit overkill :>23:36
sharpen047daftykins: let me see if i can boot into the 12.04 version and see if it does the same thing23:37
jak2000Dickens: http://pastie.org/945689523:37
daftykinssharpen047: from what? CD?23:37
sharpen047daftykins: its running through a par port, so real time pulses :P. what other way is there besides am I/O card?23:37
daftykinsi have no idea what you mean23:38
sharpen047daftykins: its a multiboot system one version of ubuntu was upgraded to 12.04 some time back but havent used it since the plugins for my cnc didnt work with it. they would now that time has passed and plugins are supported23:38
jak2000Dickens?23:38
Bozzais there a separate irc for ubuntu server?23:38
Bozzais there a separate irc channel for ubuntu server?23:39
Dickensyes jak200023:40
Dickensyour interfaces looks fine23:41
SchrodingersScat!ubuntu-server | Bozza23:42
ubottuBozza: Ubuntu Server Edition is a release of Ubuntu designed especially for server environments, including a server specific !kernel and no !GUI. The install CD contains many server applications. Current !LTS version is !Trusty (Trusty Tahr 14.04) - More info: http://www.ubuntu.com/products/whatisubuntu/serveredition - Guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/12.04/serverguide/C/ - Support in #ubuntu-server23:42
albdumhello guys I have a problem on a fresh install, everything worked fine till I run apt-get install nvidia-current...... now it goes to a blipping dash and I cannot even see ctrl alt +F1 shell23:47
albdumany ideas ?23:47
albdumalso when i try the restore root option and try apt-get remove nvidia* doesn't even show me the nvidia driver....23:48
albdumbtw its ubuntu 1423:49
Bashing-omalbdum: Can you boot to grub's "recovery" console -> enable Networking -> resume normal boot -> additional drivers, and try and install a different grahics driver ?23:50
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albdumBashing-om: i tried enabling networking but doesn't work :(23:51
goliathhi23:52
albdumi do have access to the filesystem tho from the live usb :)23:52
Bashing-omalbdum: UnGood ! wired or WIFI internet connection ?23:53
albdumboth :)23:53
peoehello everyone, I just installed 14.04., and noticed that the keyrings, once unlocked, remain forever unlocked. not only that, even a hard drive that is once unlocked and removed, will be automatically unlocked when it is connected again. I checked for a setting to change that, but there seems to be none. is it really the case that the device security is so liberally set in 14.04.?23:57
newb`would anyone recommend installing ubuntu on 8gb usb stick and running it that way?23:59

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