[00:01] thank you for help [00:02] my pleasure and good luck [00:02] you too [00:02] bye [01:37] hey does anyone know of app that i can use to automatically file my downloads in their appropriate folders? [01:45] quantibility: i use the file manager.. thunar [01:45] the issue is, what is appropriate? and how do you parse that.. you can script something that would do whatever you like [01:46] can it it do it auto matically? [01:46] quantibility: do what? [01:46] quantibility: i mean, if you have just arbitrary directories, no [01:47] so [01:47] quantibility: if you wanted to script something that moves based on some criteria, you can [01:47] i've been looking for an app like that for years [01:47] it needs to be made [01:47] then make one [01:47] quantibility: it *is* made. you script what you like [01:47] i thought about it [01:47] hmmm [01:47] were is script documentation? [01:47] just figuring out how to organize the files is probably impossible anyway [01:47] no [01:47] quantibility: "appropriate" is the issue. you have to determine what you want, and make it happen [01:47] see "everything is miscellaneous" [01:48] ali1234 [01:48] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WHeta_YZ0oE [01:48] i thought of organizing by file extention and makeing an appropriate folder for the like [01:48] yeah that's a reeally terrible way to organize files [01:49] what if you have a folder with mp3s and separate album art? [01:49] jpg's and such photo, mp4's and such video, [01:49] yeah but im doing about downloading on the fly [01:49] im talking about [01:49] what, 1000's of files a day? rofl [01:49] i've thought over other ideas as well, [01:49] no [01:49] yeah see the thing is i have like 10 years of unorganized downloads already [01:50] try 30 years here LOL [01:50] all the photos videos and such from my smartphone [01:50] yeah [01:50] auto find and file would be a neat feature [01:50] wounderful [01:50] i found a project that is nothing for a phone [01:51] i use dropbox.. though there are many options.. bitorrent sync or whatever [01:51] any java coders around that can crash course me in... Drop box for linux? [01:52] quantibility: there is a java channel [01:52] do i have to build it? [01:52] quantibility: dropbox releases a linux verion [01:52] hmm [01:52] quantibility, you could just use the awesome file searching application catfish. [01:53] right but im looking for automation [01:53] yeah, i just type what i want, and dont worry about directory structure so much any more [01:53] quantibility, automation to put files into organized directories where you look for them manually anyway? [01:54] quantibility: you can script what you like.. "move all files *.mp3 to ~/music/mp3" or whatever you like [01:54] yeah i have messed with mirc scripting before back in the day [01:54] im sure its simalar [01:55] no no no no i don't want web intergrated stroage [01:55] catfish you say? [01:56] no what i want is when i click on any file to download i want it to auto store the files retrived their apropriate folders [01:57] quantibility, what do you do with the files after that? [01:57] quantibility: just say what you want, friend.. i use dropbox to get my pictures or whatever i want from my phone to my computer. there are many ways to do that.. [01:57] nothing, just that they are organized when i want to look for em,,, [01:57] quantibility: bitorrent sync, for example. not "web integrated" at all [01:58] quantibility: there is nothing magic you can download that'll just happen to put your files exactly where you prefer them to be.. you'll have to decide how you prefer them, and script something.. or just manually put them there.. or search [01:58] lets say i download a pic, it goes into a pic folder... now for more elaborate organization im sure i would have to program (script or other wise) [01:59] see that the point it doesn't exists and i think i can develop it beautifully [01:59] quantibility, do you understand i'm proposing an alternative way of thinking... why keep them organized when you can just look for them with catfish when you want? [01:59] quantibility: what i would do is, download the pic.. then, the script i would write would run whenever i schedule it, and move the pic where i want [01:59] because having the computer search every file on the disk is really slow [01:59] yes [01:59] agreed [02:00] but there are ways to speed up the process like just scanning the image then referencing the file [02:00] quantibility: there is not overall "appropriate" place for pics.. there is where you download them to, and where you want them.. where you want them can be differtent than where i want then, thus, no "autosort" thing.. [02:00] same crap can be scripted right in mirc and Xchat i assume [02:00] sorting into directories based on filetype is really easy [02:00] the problem is it's not very useful [02:00] quantibility: xchat is not something i would move files around on my computer with. i would use bash [02:00] for the reasons i have given... [02:01] on the contrary its very useful, the idea behind it is TO sort not freaking browse [02:02] quantibility: do what you like.. you dont need to argue its usefulness. [02:02] * ObrienDave wonders how this convo is xubuntu support related [02:02] quantibility: i dont want it. and what you want can be differnt from what others want. but its easy to do what you want, many ways [02:02] yeah agreed [02:02] so where is ubuntu documentation for scripting so i can get started here [02:03] !bash [02:03] The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal (Gnome), K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE), or Menu -> Accessories -> LXTerminal (LXDE). Guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UsingTheTerminal [02:03] quantibility: there is not really "heres the handbook on how to script every little piece of ubuntu".. [02:07] quantibility: you can use many ways to script such a thing.. but, the distros basically have a set work flow, and if you want to customize on your own, you are welcome to [03:13] http://imgur.com/dp3AvWc this stick should boot now? btw im using xubuntu 12.04 [03:14] that pic is of the ISO, not the USB [03:15] it is the iso in the 8.2 filesystem (usb) [03:16] well, if that's the case, i looks correct. no guarantees [03:16] *it [03:16] okay i will try and come back [03:27] hello, I am trying out xubuntu for the first time. when i try watching video online i am not able to go to full screen. is it possible to fix this? [03:28] new, which player? website? DVD? mp4? details please [03:28] if by video you mean a flash video, flash sucks in linux new [03:29] mp4 [03:30] okaaaaay, so HOW are you viewing it? [03:30] online via mirror [03:31] cab you be a little more helpful new ¿ [03:31] can* [03:31] i can watch the video without any problems, it simply wont let me use full screen. [03:31] sorry, Im not sure what information is helpful. [03:32] by HOW, ObrienDave means what site, what player, whatever details you can give to help you new [03:32] HOW ARE YOU WATCHING IT? chrome? firefox? stand-alone player? [03:32] ah, ok. Chrome [03:33] ...... [03:34] try using firefox, see if it works. then i'll tell you why [03:34] I just did, Same result [03:35] well, that blows that theory LOL [03:35] lol sorry [03:35] which website? [03:36] nwanime.com [03:36] ive tried multiple videos to make sure it wasnt different between them [03:38] just view the first video, it's a flahs video, and it has a fullscreen button [03:39] i just went there, i have no problems with full screen [03:39] in chrome [03:39] and firefox === __jkl is now known as dr_jkl [03:40] http://www.nick.com/videos/clip/legend-of-korra-209-full-episode.html [03:40] what happens when you press full screen button? [03:43] *whistles and waits*;P [03:46] *drums fingers* [03:49] *sighs and drifts on back to main* [03:50] maybe he already saw the fullscreen button :) [03:51] oh no, there is a full screen button? i was scaling the resolution ;P rofl [04:09] so the last time i tried to boot a bootable usb, i got a error saying "this is not a bootable disk insert a bootable floppy and press any button to trty again". [04:10] that means you got a bad transfer [04:10] try again [04:11] so wipe the usb and make a startup disk again with the same iso? [04:12] yes, iirc your md5sum is correct for the ISO [04:12] okay [04:13] 14.04.1 64bit, yes? [04:13] yes [04:13] ok, remake the USB [04:14] do you have a DVD burner? [04:14] yes no dvd-r though [04:14] dvd-rw? [04:14] nada [04:15] ok, usb it is. i've had much better luck with DVD [04:15] what is command for md5sum? [04:15] dose it need sudo? [04:16] it shouldnt need sudo [04:16] okay i accedently typed md5sun so... im in the dark [04:18] ctrl-c to quit [04:18] 119cb63b48c9a18f31f417f09655efbd does it match the other hash? [04:18] that looks right [04:18] okay [04:19] ima make startup disk again and be back in a second [04:19] how much space should i reserve? [04:19] 2gb? [04:21] http://releases.ubuntu.com/trusty/MD5SUMS [04:22] okay [04:22] oh, depends on how large your stick is. you need 4GB or so for the install. [04:22] it is 8gb [04:22] so im all good [04:23] if you max out persistance, it will only use what is left after install [04:24] i only made 2gb reserve [04:24] thats fine [04:24] eta 8 min [04:25] no rush [04:25] i know,. i just sick of sitting on the flour :) [04:26] i can understand but somethings you can't rush. causes way more problems in the long run [04:27] it seems 2 nights ago you were worried about 90 minutes. LOL this has taken way more time than that ;P [04:28] yeah tell me about it. i want more experience. and i will do anything for that [04:29] experience takes time and making mistakes. you'll get there :) [04:29] how can i run anti virus ware via term? [04:30] clamav is the only one i know of. i'm sure there are others [04:30] okay [04:42] my pc unplugged [04:42] it is operational once more [04:45] ObrienDave, thanks for helping [04:45] no prob zacwalls [04:45] so how did you get involved with pc's? [04:46] i had my first programming class in 1971. been tinkering with computers ever since ;P [04:47] wow [04:48] i never had or probaly have a class. everything (almost) i taught myself [04:49] well, you're young and ambitious. you will learn patience as you get older :) [04:51] i have the ability to be patience but, i don’t use it often unless i must. [04:51] lol yes, i know :) [04:52] well i may have an infamous notoriety on irc but...i got nothing. :) [04:53] eta: 4 [04:54] so what os u use? [04:55] Xubuntu and Windows when i have to [04:55] dual-boot? [04:55] sure [04:56] aha [04:56] i just put a 1.5TB drive in my laptop. plenty of room nw LOL [04:56] ha [04:56] *now [04:56] 99% [04:57] Can anybody tell me how to install an older linux kernel on a fresh install of xubuntu 14.04? [04:57] why would you want to do that? [04:57] and how old? [04:57] Installation is complete. You may now run Ubuntu on other computers by booting them with this drive inserted. [04:58] Because I think the current kernel has some compatibility issues. And I'm on 2007 hardware [04:58] 0-0 [04:58] I installed kernel 3.2.61 on LMDE and it worked [04:58] but on xubuntu it won't boot [04:58] zacwalls, cool, shut down, remove stick, fire it up ;P [04:58] into that kernel [04:59] ObrienDave, how? why remove disk? [04:59] zacwalls, oh, sorry i thought you were installing to HD [05:00] nono [05:00] maby it will work this time! bye [05:00] k [05:00] gl [05:00] wait! [05:00] ok [05:01] wat command for shutdown? [05:01] do i need root? [05:01] nvm [05:01] bye [05:02] k [05:02] xubuntu815, LMDE and xubuntu do not have same kernel [05:04] Okay, that makes sense. So now I'm just trying to figure out a more stable kernel I can install on my system. I installed 3.9 from a guide I found dated 2012 and I booted into it but it had the same problem as kernel 3.13 and crashed. [05:04] well the error message this time was "boot error". [05:05] zsw_, i'm out of ideas. try a different USB stick [05:05] i dont have one [05:06] zsw_, i have to assume your BIOS is set up to boot the stick [05:06] idk [05:06] i never go in there often [05:07] http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1949602 [05:07] look what i found [05:07] that would be good to know. it needs to be set up that way [05:08] xubuntu815, the LMDE is on kernel 3.15.7-1 already [05:08] how do i figure out? [05:08] 3.15 kernel is extremely stable [05:09] * vrkalak is Admin for LinuxMint (LMDE) and Debian-Maintainer [05:11] Check CMOS (BIOS) settings for USB. I think you may need Auto or Legacy for USB. Anyway try a different setting and see if that works. Some will say in BIOS help that you need a specific USB setting to boot from USB. [05:11] I have generally found that on Dell computers you still have to press F12 during BIOS splash to select USB even if you earlier set USB before hard drive in boot order. On those computers the only time it "might" work without pressing F12 is if that USB device has always been connected and booted from since you set BIOS boot order. [05:11] zsw_, looks like you need to format the stick to EXT4 first [05:11] how? [05:12] what system is on your computer now? [05:12] xubuntu 12.04 [05:13] ok, delete the USB with gparted, refomat to EXT4 and reburn the stick [05:13] *reformat [05:14] obrienDave, how. im a noob remember :) [05:14] run gparted [05:15] downloading [05:16] k [05:17] i need to config root real quick [05:18] why? [05:18] cuz i beed root privileges to run sudo passwd root [05:19] i mean gparted [05:20] no, you just enter your password. gparted will run [05:20] are you doing this from terminal? no gui? [05:21] term [05:21] do you have a DE? [05:21] i bypassed it [05:22] huh? why? [05:22] no i bypass root [05:22] im at gparted [05:22] you can see the gparted gui? yes? [05:24] yes http://imgur.com/hS8oVNL what do i do? [05:25] ok, top right corner, make SURE you select your USB from the drop down [05:25] i dont know witch usb is the one [05:25] you should only have 1 8GB device in the list ;P [05:26] i got it [05:26] mine says 7.45GB [05:26] it is fat32 [05:27] its okay [05:27] ok, partition, format to, EXT4 [05:28] okay [05:28] green check mark to apply operation, accept the change [05:29] the format option is not highlighted [05:30] oh LOL you have to unmount it [05:30] okay [05:30] then you can format it to ext4 [05:30] its pending [05:30] green check mark to apply operation, accept the change [05:31] will take 30 seconds or so [05:31] okay done [05:32] http://i.imgur.com/RfZhxX1.png [05:32] can o boot now? [05:32] should look something like that [05:32] it did ima boot bow [05:32] now [05:33] hang on [05:33] okay [05:33] partition, manage flags, select boot [05:34] last column should change from msftdata to boot [05:35] the manage flags is not highlighted [05:36] it's ok, go ahead and reburn the USB again [05:36] okay [05:36] if that does not work, we'll try GPT partition table [05:37] okay [05:37] if that does not work i suggest a very big hammer for your stick LOL [05:38] yes but now make startup disk is not highlighted [05:38] did you eject the stick and reinsert? [05:39] 2 times [05:39] i couldent manage flags [05:39] imgur a pic for me please [05:39] couldn’t [05:40] http://imgur.com/hhPBzuZ [05:40] hint: the ISO will overwrite the flags anyway [05:40] aha [05:41] ok, click erase disk [05:41] okay [05:41] org.freedesktop.UDisks.Error.Inhibited: Daemon is inhibited [05:42] what does that mean? [05:42] dunno, did you close gparted? [05:42] no ugh [05:42] LOL [05:42] that will do it [05:43] close everything but IRC chat and disk creator [05:43] okay [05:43] well you might need chrome for imgur [05:44] or ff [05:44] firefox [05:44] YEAH [05:44] that's fine [05:44] got it? [05:44] yeah [05:44] cool, kick back, enjoy the show for a few, i'll be back in 10 [05:44] okay [05:54] i assume it's going good [05:56] :) [05:56] okay its done [05:56] Hello!!?? [05:56] hi [05:56] ok, see if it works [05:56] okay brb [05:56] help me!!! [05:58] wow [06:01] wow boot error [06:02] ok, dang [06:02] did u read the query? [06:02] yea [06:02] ext2 [06:02] let me check === marvin is now known as Guest58961 [06:03] well, lets try gparted. this time make new partition table GPT and format to fat32 [06:03] it is fat32 again === Guest58961 is now known as Marvin_1 [06:04] 1 partition is currently active on device /dev/sdb. [06:05] A new partition table cannot be created when there are active partitions. Active partitions are those that are in use, such as a mounted file system, or enabled swap space. [06:05] Use Partition menu options, such as unmount or swapoff, to deactivate all partitions on this device before creating a new partition table. [06:05] Trying to install 14.04 using the minimal iso, but my monitors die out at a 'random' point during the install [06:05] not sure what to do T_T [06:06] zacwalls, you can't do a thing with the stick munted. always unmount in gparted [06:06] okay didnt know [06:07] Marvin_1, that's normal. shake mouse, press shift key, something to wake up the monitor [06:07] zacwalls, no biggie [06:07] ObrienDave, nothing wakes it up. I had the same problem installing debian and the only solution was to get ssh up before I lost sight [06:08] I was using the mini iso since the normal one doesn't have ssh support (AFAIK), but I can't get it set up fast enough [06:09] http://imgur.com/iSh4SRA [06:09] hmm, at the beginning, F6 i believe, there might be an option for "nomodeset" [06:09] WHAT HAPPENED????? [06:10] i clicked on create partition table [06:10] when you changed partition table to GPT that is normal [06:10] now, new, fat32 [06:11] ObrienDave, quick google search shows that the command makes it rely on the bios video. If that's true, then the problem will still exist once I get it installed and switch to the video card? [06:11] it says i deleted all data [06:12] yes, partition, new, fat32 [06:13] it is highlighted [06:13] Marvin_1, not sure but that is the fix for black or blank screens [06:13] i mean it is not [06:14] zacwalls, click the unallocated area, right click for menu [06:14] I can use the screens on startup, but at what seems to be a time-dependent event, the computer acts as if it's going into sleep or something [06:15] without the ability to wake it up [06:15] ? [06:15] how do i label [06:16] zacwalls, you don;t need a lable right now [06:16] label* [06:16] okay fat32 done [06:16] ok, try the burn again [06:16] okay [06:17] Marvin_1, sorry, i avoid the mini ISO. i only know that nomodeset option might help [06:17] !nomodeset [06:17] A common kernel (boot)parameter is nomodeset, which is needed for some graphic cards that otherwise boot into a black screen or show corrupted splash screen. See http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1613132 on how to use this parameter [06:18] Doesn't seem to be a valid solution since the screens work. A second problem I'm having if you're willing to help is during install with the actual iso [06:18] okay starting [06:19] Using gparted, I can see my main hard-drive, but using the install GUI, I can't [06:19] the mini ISO is text based. there is no GUI afaik [06:20] Using the main iso [06:21] i don't know about that issue. i've never had that come up during install and i redid mine 24 hours ago [06:23] did it show any drives at all? [06:23] Just the flash drive in the installer [06:24] I have my HDD partitioned in ext4 already using the gparted that comes with the live boot and the installer won't see them [06:24] are you overwriting everything or going for a dual boot? [06:25] overwrite [06:25] did you select that option or "something else" [06:25] I don't get that option [06:26] It goes straight from "preparing to install" with the check for space and connection, to the list of drives with the flash drive being the only one up there [06:26] I have ubuntu on my desktop, and I recall it asking if I wanted to do it alongside and all that other crap [06:27] but my hdd on the desktop is completely empty, so I assume it knows it wants to overwrite anything there [06:27] yes, that is surprising. how larg of a drive? [06:27] *large [06:27] 2tb [06:28] ok, then you don't need GPT [06:29] i suggest formating the drive to FAT32 or NTFS and try the install with the full live ISO [06:30] Will do [06:33] done brb [06:33] k [06:34] ObrienDace, no dice :( [06:35] that is strange, no main drive at all? [06:35] Correct [06:36] is it a UEFI machine? [06:36] im going on a homicidal rampage. [06:37] zacwalls, i think your stick just will not work. it happens. you'll have to try a different stick [06:37] i dont have one [06:37] is your machine a UEFI? [06:37] Fairly certain it's BIOS [06:38] Marvin_1, if not, the secure boot will prevent you from seeing the drive. (thanks M$) [06:39] but i don't understand why gparted will see it but not the installer. only thing that makes sense to me [06:40]