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mappshi all04:34
manxuserListening to Teenage Dirtbag at 8am .. Morning all.07:46
daftykinsXD07:47
daftykinshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QjUk3Bp16zs07:47
daftykinsqueue this one up07:47
manxuserok ok ..07:47
manxuserI have to say .. if I had an imaginary b-friend .. he'd be called bennie.07:49
manxuserv.Eyes wide shut.07:49
manxuserGhehe.07:49
daftykinsheh07:50
manxuserBennie .. off Eyes wide shut .. he's the dog who goes through cryo-stasis.07:51
manxuserBut seriusly .. this the soundtrack of my life ... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Femqf_Mel4U07:51
daftykinsi love TEB07:52
manxusertried to install Zorin OS last night .. just released 2 days ago .07:52
daftykinshrmm is that the Chinese one 0o07:53
manxusercan't get past the "creating user" thingy on the install screen .. but I have a terminal (oddly) ..thinkin' of a refund.07:53
daftykinsnah probably elementary OS i'm thinking of07:53
manxuserelementary is the bountysourced one .. massively .07:54
manxusercan't stand a big menu window though ..07:54
daftykinswhat do you mean?07:54
daftykinsbounty sourced makes me think of the great chocolate bar or kitchen towle07:55
daftykins*towel :>07:55
manxuserprob/ly a bettr link , but here goes .. https://www.bountysource.com/teams/elementary/bounties07:55
manxuserI'm just waiting for that nam film .. where the guys originally says ..07:56
daftykins'love the smell of napalm in the morning' ? :P07:57
manxuser"'cos in every gook there's an American waiting to get out .. !" but you could angle in the word bounty into the meme somewhere ..07:57
manxuserMy name is Nathan .. so it's..07:57
manxuser"I lve the smell of Naython in the morning .. ahem."07:58
manxuser**love07:58
manxuserno one's about in the Zorin chat-room anyhow ..07:59
manxuserWats good on telly at the moment ?08:00
daftykinsi don't even have broadcast hooked up :)08:00
daftykinswell, technically here's not the place for Zorin help, but if you're stuck on the user creation screen of an installer you could well have entered something it doesn't like08:01
manxusereah .. chucked away my tele 3 years ago . I only liked Radio6 . oh Ok08:01
manxuser**Yeah08:01
daftykinsthings like not trying to use a capital letter in a username, mismatched passwords08:02
daftykinsthe usual things to trip up on08:02
manxuserIt keeps doing it though .. I have a partiton that won't delete on Gparted.08:02
manxuseryes .. i didn't used a capital letter .. I could try again though ..08:02
manxuserbu t I have a terminal .. on the install screen .. couldn't I hack the system abit ?08:03
daftykinsa disk not responding to a good nuking from a live session doesn't sound good08:03
* manxuser awaits approval.08:03
daftykinsdepends if installation continued or not08:03
daftykinsi see no reason you couldn't chroot in and create a user manually08:03
manxuserno just a bit stuck thee .08:03
manxuserok .. transfering to laptop in other room .. it's been installing all night .. or thats how i left it.08:04
daftykinsit depends if it's an installer that's asking for the user config steps whilst in parallel, doing the actual file copy and package install etc.08:05
manxuserso what should i type then ?08:05
daftykinsreally depends what's happening on-screen08:06
manxuserpackage install has finished.08:06
daftykins!chroot08:06
lubotu3A chroot is used to make programs believe that the directory they are running in is really the root directory. It can be used to stop programs accessing files outside of that directory, or for compiling 32bit applications in a 64bit environment - see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BasicChroot08:06
manxuserhang-on.08:06
daftykinsfollow that08:07
manxuserwell over my head ..08:08
manxuserhow do i install a package again ?08:09
manxuserIt's not a command line .. its just a a screen that you can write into.08:12
manxuseroh . i need a webcam software for windows that just "works" now to show you a picture.08:14
manxuser#toilet-break08:14
maps|wrkthis sucks08:20
daftykinswussat? day-shift maps? 0o08:20
maps|wrkmy samsung laptop wont charge..think the dc jack must be broken=[08:20
maps|wrknah was just because mapps is the samsung laptop08:20
maps|wrkits gonna die in a bit and i cant charge it08:21
maps|wrk:((08:21
daftykinsd'aww08:21
maps|wrkyea08:21
daftykinsdoes the brick have an LED to know which part it is?08:21
maps|wrknah but like the power cable works in my samsung nc10 so if the cbales fine08:22
maps|wrksurely it has to be the power jack08:22
maps|wrkeverything else works fine08:22
daftykinsah reet08:22
daftykinswhat model laptop is it?08:22
maps|wrkSamsung RV52008:23
daftykinslots of jacks on ebay for a couple of quid ;)08:24
maps|wrkyea08:24
daftykinsyip solder job then08:26
maps|wrkhow hard does it look>08:27
daftykinseasy to strip... but dunno, i don't solder08:29
maps|wrkhmnm08:29
maps|wrkSamsung NP-NC1008:29
maps|wrksame as samsung nc10?08:29
maps|wrkseems to be08:29
maps|wrkmy nc10 charger also stopped working lol08:29
manxuserhttp://imgur.com/79xASSk   <-- That's as far as I have got .. anyways .. prob/ly not te best channel.08:32
maps|wrkwhat is it08:34
manxuserI was having a hat with daftkins about Zorin os 9 .. I thought I'd update him .. but just for the fun of it.08:36
manxuser**chat08:36
daftykinsah-har08:37
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daftykinsso what does the last text read?08:37
manxuserright hang-on ..08:38
manxuserGlib.source_remove(self.timeout_id)08:38
daftykinsnot a clue there.08:39
manxuserlast line ...08:40
daftykinsyeah but no idea on its' meaning08:40
manxuserGLib.source_remove(self.rows_changed_id) ..08:40
manxuserthat's pretty much it.08:40
manxuser... /usr/lib/ubiquity/frontend/gtk_components/nmwidgets.py:131 Warning Source ID 15449 was not found when attempting to remove it08:41
manxuseroh missed that one .. silly mirc.08:41
manxuseri ant scroll up either.08:42
manxuser**cant08:42
manxusershall I try with a capital .. even though I'm 99% sure that I_did already ?08:42
daftykinsthoughts...08:45
daftykins1) restart and see what happens, booting from the HDD 2) discover chroot'ing from the live session of the media you installed from and create a user if there isn't one08:46
daftykins3) just re-run the installer, nuke the disk and start again08:46
manxuseri tried 2) three times .. and I md5 checked the 7zip .. t's OK.08:47
daftykinsby 7zip i assume you mean your downloaded ISO is associated with 7zip08:47
manxuser*** i tried 3) three times .. and I md5 checked the 7zip .. it's OK.08:47
manxuserFound this today ... http://imgur.com/gallery/050Gw2I08:48
manxuserten dollars .. not bad .. http://www.thinkgeek.com/product/e5a7/?srp=108:50
manxuserplus $15 postage ;)08:50
manxuserI'm putting it into hibernation .. lets see if that works.08:54
daftykinsnope :)08:55
manxuserit wont even do that anyway.08:59
manxuserCrumbs .. for $10 .. you'd think they'd have a call center. grumbles.09:00
manxuserso which is easiest on the wiFi settings then ? Lubuntu or Xubuntu ?  (for a 2004 laptop) .09:06
daftykinsprobably equal09:06
brobostigonmorning boys and girls.09:13
daftykinswhat-o sir09:14
brobostigonmorning daftykins09:17
Myrttimäh09:58
daftykinso rly10:02
popeymorning10:03
shaunoikea make cows sheep now?10:10
shaunowow.  that was barely a sentence.  I think I'm going back to sleep10:10
daftykins:D10:10
daftykinsi'll bet there'd be a piece missing in the box.10:11
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manxuserIkea .. if only :(  ... http://www.reddit.com/r/ikea10:22
manxuserI wonder why I can't post anything on reddit at the moment ?10:22
manxuser#/me joins reddit channel10:22
daftykins:P10:22
manxuser\join #reddit10:23
manxuserAaaargh.10:23
daftykinsthat's the wrong slash, Gromit10:23
manxusernot now it isn't :D10:23
manxusermIRC doesn't like me today.10:24
daftykinsperhaps Khaled Mardam-Bey has it out for you10:24
manxuserreally  I'd just give him reddit gold to shut-up :)10:25
manxuseri really need to flash ubuntu touch on to my Nexus7 -2013 ..Crumbs it was me wo asked the question on the uupc for crying out loud .. just just ..10:27
manxuserI connected it to the ubuntu machine and it tanked my app center for android .. never did figure out how to et the pictures off it.10:28
manxuserFiniky in the extreme.10:28
manxuser**get10:28
manxuseranyway 10mins till i have Lubuntu :)10:29
manxuserUuurgh .. Just turned over a page to be faced with Clare Balding in the Telegraph .. can't be good :(10:30
daftykinswho's that?10:33
manxuserhow do I get it so that when the password page comes up on yahoo .. it fills it out for me in ubuntu .. real pig cos I use long passwords and multiple a/c's ... ???10:33
manxuserwho ?10:33
manxuserclar balding ?10:34
manxuser**clare10:34
popeysports tv presenter10:34
manxuser#horses I think .10:34
manxuserdoes sports too.10:34
popeyhappy birthday davmor210:34
manxuserHi popey.10:34
popeyhello10:35
popeyhot dogs for lunch today i think10:35
popeyand baked potato with cheese stuffed inside10:35
manxuserWho's the new community king ?  -perhaps we should ask Clare .. [smirk.]10:35
popeydpm10:36
popeyhttp://theravingrick.blogspot.co.uk/2014/07/the-community-team.html10:36
manxuserI like the community team.10:37
manxuser+110:37
popeyme too10:37
daftykinsit's like you're both speaking another language10:38
popeyreally?!10:38
manxuserthey need free huggs T-shirts though .. just to add that bit-o-fur :)10:38
popeyMy life's work is complete, I have been tweeted by Martine Croxall ☻10:39
manxuseris there still that App that just has Jono saying community over and over again ?10:39
popeythere's a couple10:39
MyrttiI like Clare Balding...10:41
daftykinsoh the *ubuntu* community10:41
manxuseroh dear-me . OK Ok she as a nice atitude, I'll give you that.10:42
manxuser**attitude10:42
manxuserI'm just about to get excluded if I cant remember my yahoo security question ..10:42
manxuserWhat is the name of your human beings Ubuntu ? Added 12April 201410:43
manxusercrypticall at least.10:43
daftykinsyeah you might want to change that :)10:44
manxuseroh great locked for 12 hours .. what a crappo service yahoo is these days.10:44
* manxuser vows never to upgrade to pemium.10:45
manxuser**premium.10:45
manxuseranyway I'm clogging the channel .. so better go .. Oh it's redtape BTW ... ketameen went well on Emerdale last week , ya don't say !10:46
popeyyes, we know it's you ☻10:48
popeyhaha, Clare Balding's partner lobbed rubbish back into a car!10:48
popeyhttp://www.standard.co.uk/news/london/angry-bbc-newsreader-throws-rubbish-back-into-car-in-traffic-jam-7722709.html10:49
manxuserhidemyass .. crap service bye.10:49
wikinoobhi all10:51
popeyhello10:52
wikinoobhi popey10:57
wikinoobsoo empty here..11:23
daftykinsno it's not! look that's three of us already...11:23
wikinoobfacebook kill the IRC11:24
Myrttifour11:24
penguin42and a half11:25
daftykinsfacebook most definitely does not replace the purpose of this channel and network :P11:26
wikinoobi hate facebook.11:27
wikinoobsome of you know about media wike?11:28
wikinoobwiki*11:28
Myrttithe software? who doesn't11:30
daftykinsi don't.11:32
wikinoobi'm after fresh installation of media wiki. and i want to make categories for the pages11:33
wikinoob?11:39
wikinoobsomeone?11:39
daftykinsi'd bet they have documentation11:41
wikinoobdaftykins: but it's not for the poor guy like me.11:43
wikinoobhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Help:Category11:43
wikinoobhere^11:43
wikinoobtotally unreadable11:44
wikinoobdaftykins: i'm trying to make a list of pages that belong to the same category.11:45
wikinooblats say category "linux" and pages "commends"  "installation" "kernel" will be under the same title11:46
daftykinsi don't really see what brought you here to ask for help with that 0o11:46
daftykinsbut as i said above i have no experience with that. maybe one of this lot can help, or perhaps you could find a more relevant channel11:47
wikinoobthe server run ubuntu11:47
wikinooband this is the best IRC room :-)11:47
daftykins¬_¬11:48
wikinoobi'm not from UK but i love the country and the people on England11:49
Myrttibecause #mediawiki doesn't offer any help?11:51
Myrttiwhat I'd do, and have done, is to go over to wikipedia, look for a page with categories defined in it, and see how it's done11:52
wikinoobyes i'm there more then day - but zero help11:52
wikinoobMyrtti: good idea!11:54
Myrttiinnit.11:54
popey\o/ hot dog success11:59
daftykinsi remember weekends as a kid, hot dogs every Sunday i think it was11:59
popeyI remember when i was <7 my dad used to make home made burgers. I'd watch the dukes of hazzard in the front room on the sofa as a treat while eating them.12:07
daftykins:D12:34
daftykinspopey: in colour? ;)12:37
popeyhah, yes.13:34
GargoyleDamn you, apparmor!15:06
GargoyleDo people actually use it?15:06
diddledanGargoyle: that sounds like a movie15:06
GargoyleOver an hour lost because I thought it was me messing up my ansible scripts.15:07
GargoyleThere's probably a Liam Neeson meme somewhere. "I don't know what your problem is apparmor, but I'm going to find you and delete you!"15:16
maps|wrkdaftykins,  did you look at the vids? seems not too bad15:18
maps|wrkreplacing the dc jack15:18
penguin42any other UKers mind saying how their doctors prescription reorder system works? Mine is a really lousy web form that ends up emailing them where they type it back in (if it hasn't been caught by their spam filter)15:22
diddledanpenguin42: that really is bad15:25
diddledanpenguin42: I've not looked into how my docs do it15:26
penguin42diddledan: What's your interface to ordering?15:27
popeyGargoyle: yes, we use apparmor _heavily_ on the phone15:27
popeyits used as part of app isolation.15:27
diddledanpenguin42: for my regular meds I somehow managed to get the pharmacy to take care of re-ordering15:27
penguin42Gargoyle: If you think apparmour is hard, try setting up SELinux15:28
Gargoyle:/15:28
penguin42diddledan: Ah, yes I hear some of them do15:28
GargoyleIs there someway I can find out why mysql is failing to install? Or does anyone have any experience with running it from a different data dir? I'm trying to change the dir before installation by having a config override already in /etc/mysql/conf.d/15:36
GargoyleOr should I just leave it to install normally, and then move the data?15:36
penguin42you're getting an error of some type?15:39
Gargoyledpkg: error processing package mysql-server-5.6 (--configure):15:40
Gargoyle subprocess installed post-installation script returned error exit status 115:40
penguin42oh that's inconvenient of it15:40
GargoyleProbably related to how debian initialises the mysql data directories.15:41
GargoyleI'll let it do a normal install and then relocate them after its finished. (Want to put data dir and log dir onto 2 different ebs volumes when I deplot to AWS)15:42
Gargoyle*deploy15:42
penguin42Gargoyle: You should be able to see hte preinst script in /var/log/dpkg/info/mysql-something.preinst15:42
penguin42or postinst15:42
GargoyleThanks penguin42. Not shedding much more light though.15:51
diddledanGargoyle: you can keep the data dir in it's normal place and mount a different ebs volume in that place yannow?15:52
Gargoylediddledan: I'm trying to standardise on /data1 and /data2 across all our servers.15:53
GargoyleI'll let apt do a normal install, and then create a bash script which moves everything and created symlinks.15:54
penguin42Gargoyle: http://elfstone.nl/2010/06/02/debian-packages-debugging-postinst/   ?15:54
Gargoylepenguin42: Oh, that might be helpful.16:00
GargoyleIf I hadn't just run "vagrant destroy" :P16:00
GargoyleJust going to do this lot with a script. http://stackoverflow.com/questions/22290655/change-mysql-data-directory-in-debian-716:02
Myrttismile, you're on a screenshot, again16:04
diddledan:-D16:05
MyrttiI'm not too happy with the previous screenshot so I'm replacing it so there's less to blur out16:05
diddledanwhat are we screenshotting for?16:06
MyrttiI made the first irssi theme that supports 256 colours16:06
diddledano..m..g16:06
diddledanthe first evar?!16:06
penguin42what colour am I?16:07
Myrttiit's horribly pink but I meant it more like proof of concept theme, not for general consumption16:07
diddledanwe're entering 1990!16:07
diddledan:-p16:07
Myrttididdledan: atleast first published one, it seems16:07
diddledanwow16:07
Myrttithe 256/24bit support is in the 0.8.17RC16:07
Myrttipenguin42: I'd say 6C16:09
* foobarry wanders past16:09
* Myrtti waves to foobarry 16:10
* foobarry nods awkardly16:11
Myrttibrilliant. That doesn't have anything to blur out since I'm cloaked and popey is cloaked too.16:12
Myrttithere we go then16:26
Myrttihttp://irssi-docs.wikispaces.com/Testing-new-irssi16:26
popeyhm?16:26
Myrttipopey: you've set the topic the last in here so irssi displays who set it and what host you did it from. But you're cloaked so there's less to blur out from the screenshot16:28
popeyhehe16:28
MyrttiI usually take the screenshots from here because the channel is publically logged and people speaking should at least in theory be aware of that16:29
diddledanyey I'm famous!16:37
diddledanI R SCREENSHOTTED16:37
* penguin42 is infamous16:39
diddledanpenguin42: muahahaha16:39
diddledan</evil laugh>16:39
Myrttipenguin42: yeah, you were in the previous screenshot too16:43
penguin42Myrtti: I'd think I'd have colour 42 or 2A16:44
MyrttiI have neither16:46
diddledanremember folks, www.youtube.com/watch?v=StTqXEQ2l-Y16:51
diddledanI love that song16:51
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deidshi18:23
deidsin ubuntu how i see the command in the script in the terminal?18:24
Myrttihuhwhat18:25
deidsMyrtti: i want to see the output of command18:25
deidsin script.18:26
Myrttideids: I don't do support in pm, and I'm not quite sure I could answer that question either way18:28
deidsMyrtti: you know how to put command output into a variable in python?18:28
Myrttinope.18:28
foobarrydoes anyone know a decent online UK tv guide that picks the best of the week's TV?18:33
foobarryby decent i mean interesting programmes rather than soaps etc18:33
Myrttiother than radiotimes.com?18:34
foobarrydo they do a pick of progs for the week Myrtti ?18:36
foobarryi thought that would negate their point of existence18:36
deidsfacebook kill every irc channel :-(   in 2009 the irc was full with nice people now it's all empty rooms, only ubuntu-uk live18:39
Gargoyledeids: Don't think that's true.18:41
GargoyleI still recognose people from 10+ years ago.18:41
deidswligtenberg:  i have 9 rooms open - here and ubuntu are the only live rooms.18:42
foobarry#ubuntu is busy18:43
GargoyleBeer time... cya all!18:43
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penguin42deids: Yeh it's a bit quiet on most of the chat channels these days18:44
deidswhy?18:44
foobarryits saturday night and holiday season18:44
foobarryand irc generation grew up and had kids18:45
foobarryor are out socialising18:45
deidsthe best time to make your own cluster :-)18:45
penguin42deids: But I suspect you're right about facebook and twitter etc  that's the new kids18:45
deidsall my frinds in facebook and twitter - i hate that.18:46
deidspenguin42: anyway i'm build a cluster computer, i think it's nice and cool thing to do.18:47
penguin42deids: Of anything useful?18:48
deidsfor the beginning - lerning how cluster work, but the main reason is 3d rendering18:49
penguin42what hardware?18:50
deids6 xeon cpus18:51
penguin426 boxes, each with one?18:51
deidsyes.18:53
penguin42why use Xeons for that?18:53
deidsi want to make an interface to monitoring the raid.18:54
deidsi get them free so - no question18:54
deidspenguin42: X321018:55
deidsthis is the model of the cpu18:56
deids4 gb ram for node18:56
penguin42oh well, if you've got a pile of CPUs18:56
deids160 gb X 2 for node18:56
deidsso 12 HDDs18:56
deids24gb ram :-)18:57
penguin42hmm 2.13GHz x 4 not too bad; by the time you've got 6 of those it'll be usefully fast - and keep you warm :-)18:57
deids600W x1218:58
deidsbut it not take that..18:58
penguin42where do you reckon on that?18:58
penguin42I thought you had 6 of them?18:59
deidsevery server has 2 PS18:59
deidsevery PS is 600W18:59
penguin42oh, those are your PS specs; why did you bother with 2 PSs in a cluster?18:59
deidsthe PS go in a drawerץץ19:00
deidsthe PS go in a drawer.. *19:00
penguin42?19:01
deidsbut the server dont take 600W19:01
deidsthe PS can give MAX 600W19:01
penguin42but why bother with 2 PSs per server?19:02
desidit's redundancy19:03
desidif one PS die you have 219:03
penguin42in clusters people normally rely on the redundancy of the machines in the cluster except maybe for the cluster management nodes19:03
desidhttp://www.itinstock.com/ekmps/shops/itinstock/images/dell-poweredge-1950-ii-2x-dual-core-3.0ghz-24gb-1u-rack-mount-server-vt-vmware-[4]-4328-p.jpg19:04
desidi get them with 2 PS.. i dont complain :-)19:05
penguin42desid: Yeh, you pay a premium for dual PS servers, and even then they don't normally require you to fit both19:05
desidpenguin42: i get them free  - i was garbage!19:06
penguin42oh well, in that case19:07
desidpenguin42: and the wife like it - so dont complain at all :-)19:08
desidshe like blender.19:08
penguin42haha19:09
desidi want to make a widget that show me the status of the raid.19:09
desid12 old HDDs..19:09
penguin42yeh there's probably already something that can do that19:10
desidi make the widget19:10
desidbut i cant understand how to take the output from bash and put it in to variable in python19:11
* penguin42 isn't really a pythony person19:12
desidyou know some?19:14
* penguin42 has only written a little and that was a while ago19:15
penguin42desid: https://docs.python.org/2/library/subprocess.html#module-subprocess  perhaps the subprocess command?19:16
penguin42desid: Sorry, check_output ?19:16
desidthanks!19:17
bigcalmGood morning peeps :)21:16
penguin42Good evening21:44
popeyyo21:53
bigcalmho ho21:54
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desidhi23:41
penguin42how's the new heating?23:41

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