[00:01] <fred89> first sry for my bad englisch. can someone pls tell me how i can change the fontcolor of the search?  it's white and i cant see anything -.- cant find anything in ccsm or unity tweak tool :(
[00:02] <Joe_knock> Hello. Does anyone know how to install glib2 for gtk2?
[00:06] <linuxuser> nick eafie
[00:06] <Basketball> how can i uninstall a program and remove the config files then reinstall with the fresh config files
[00:08] <edition> apt-get purge ?
[00:08] <jak2000> Dickens?
[00:08] <jak2000> then why i cant navigate ot internet?
[00:08] <jorge> Charles Dickens
[00:08] <IdleOne> Basketball: apt-get purge package
[00:09] <Basketball> thanks
[00:09] <jorge> apt-get purge Basketball
[00:09] <IdleOne> jorge: Do you have anything helpful to say?
[00:09] <jorge> :)
[00:11] <arctictelecom> Does anyone know of an offline encyclopedia that is available for Linux?
[00:12] <TacticalJoke> arctictelecom:  You can download Wikipedia, I think.
[00:13] <arctictelecom> Do you specifically know how?
[00:13] <TacticalJoke> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Database_download#English-language_Wikipedia
[00:13] <fabio_> guys, what ssh broken pipe message means?
[00:13] <peoe> hello everyone, I just installed 14.04., and noticed that the keyrings, once unlocked, remain forever unlocked. not only that, even a hard drive that is once unlocked and removed, will be automatically unlocked when it is connected again. I checked for a setting to change that, but there seems to be none. is it really the case that the device security is so liberally set in 14.04.?
[00:14] <jorge> how do I move the close minimize maximize to the other corner?
[00:15] <clumsy_bot> Try out Unity Tweak Tool?
[00:18] <clumsy_bot> Anybody here got recommendations for a laptop that can run Ubuntu without much problems?
[00:23] <dke> Normally, Ubuntu should work on most of all systems (never seen, that Ubuntu ins't working on any system). But here is a link, what should probably help you.
[00:23] <dke> probablyhttp://www.ubuntu.com/certification/desktop/
[00:23] <dke> from the official ubuntu site.
[00:26] <fabio_> what means Write failed: Broken pipe
[00:26] <daftykins> give us some context
[00:35] <ice9> how to install elementary os desktop on ubuntu?
[00:35] <daftykins> !elementary
[00:36] <daftykins> ice9: unsupported, install their distro if you want it
[00:36] <_jack_> ice9: it's helpful to keep a seperate /home partition if you're gonna distro hop
[00:38] <agliodbs> the 14.04 server installer curses interface is WAY better than 12.04 was
[00:38] <agliodbs> good job, who ever did that
[00:47] <patchman> have a touchscreen that works, but the unity launcher doesnt respond to it.  how to fix?
[00:51] <crunchbang> hi
[00:58] <nicolas> connect concrete.mozilla.org
[01:00] <cheeseboy> there an ubuntu gnome channel?
[01:01] <trism> cheeseboy: #ubuntu-gnome
[01:28] <darksider> while my linux machine is running, i have lag peaks in internet access, im trying to figure out whats causes it. Do you know any app that allow network traffic monitoring?
[01:29] <SchrodingersScat> I think there's quite a few actually, one is iftop, that can show you things
[01:32] <darksider> SchrodingersScat: thanks. I'd like to use something that allows second by second logging
[01:35] <daftykins> darksider: tcpdump
[01:37]  * [SPIDER][MAN] GooD NiGht ALL
[01:37] <darksider> daftykins: thanks. ill take a look
[01:38] <daftykins> [SPIDER][MAN]: please disable that away message if you're going to stay in here
[01:39] <knob> Hello... not sure where to ask... as #networking is quiet.
[01:39] <knob> Hello guys.  About 36 hours ago I changed a domain's A Records to point to a new server's IP.   Yet at the moment, it is still not directing to that server (or the old one).  Any suggestions what I can check?
[01:40] <knob> This is the Ubuntu serve I was working on the other night
[01:42] <daftykins> knob: could be cached DNS, have you flushed and/or tried elsewhere?
[01:43] <knob> Hmm... only tried via different browser, yet same ISP
[02:01] <intx> d
[02:02] <newbiee> hi
[02:02] <hdtune2k> hi
[02:02] <newbiee> how do you make that when i try install php on ubuntu it says E: Unable to locate package php
[02:03] <chunxiao> hello, I'm freshman
[02:03] <newbiee> i should use apt-get or aptitude to install php?
[02:04] <OerHeks> newbiee, first find out the real name
[02:04] <gr33n7007h> newbiee, sudo apt-get install php5
[02:04] <newbiee> i hit tab button but not auto complete it
[02:05] <OerHeks> https://help.ubuntu.com/14.04/serverguide/php5.html
[02:06] <gr33n7007h> newbiee, apt-cache search *whatever*
[02:07] <newbiee> ok thanks you :)
[02:08] <newbiee> for example, it says 40 results called by that name. how can i see those before install?
[02:10] <daftykins> newbiee: as suggested, "apt-cache search php"
[02:11] <daftykins> newbiee: you likely want php5
[02:11] <newbiee> yes ok thanks you.
[02:14] <newbiee> do you find the last versions from apt-cache command too?
[02:14] <OerHeks> newbiee, the version you find is the latest (available & tested)
[02:15] <OerHeks> !latest
[02:16] <newbiee> thanks
[02:16] <newbiee> !sru
[02:16] <newbiee> !ppa
[02:17] <gr33n7007h> newbiee, apt-cache show php5 | grep -i version #=> will give exact version
[02:21] <newbiee> for example i did apt-cache search python and it showed me hundreds of results.  python3 maybe last stable one or python2.7 ?
[02:22] <newbiee> apt-cache show python | grep -i version # showed me python2.7 but apt-cache showed python3
[02:23] <nishi> hi
[02:25] <gr33n7007h> newbiee, apt-cache search python will list every under the python *keyword* in the repos apt-cache show python | grep -i version #=> 2.7 when using apt-cache show the packname has to be exact eg apt-cache show python3 | grep -i version
[02:26] <gr33n7007h> or apt-cache show mplayer | grep -i version
[02:26] <darkelfjuggalo> I am on a Custom Desktop running 32-bit Ubuntu 12.04: I want to upgrade to the latest[14.04 I believe] I did attempt this before with a direct upgrade and had a complete system Crash resulting in returning to 12.04. I want to try again going version by version; Can I simply Dist-Upgrade 12.04 to 12.10 to 13.04 to 13.10 to 14.04 with manually changing my Sources?
[02:27] <newbiee> gr33n7007h i must download which version python then? if i dont put version of python it shows 2.7 version by itself.
[02:29] <gr33n7007h> newbiee, python 2 "sudo apt-get install python" python 3 "sudo apt-get install python3" default python is 2.7
[02:30] <nishi> my system recieved a wifi network but i can not connect it. system restart select another OS then my  pc enable  to connect the wifi. Please help me
[02:30] <gr33n7007h> newbiee, It's not name python2 but just merely python
[02:30] <cynicallemon> best to have both versions of python installed these days
[02:31] <newbiee> if i can install both of them then its good. i will do so. thanks
[02:31] <gr33n7007h> newbiee, for both "sudo apt-get install python python3"
[02:32] <cynicallemon> newbiee, if you do and want to run python stuff via command line then for python 2 apps its "python myapp.py" for example, python3 apps its "python3 myapp"
[02:33] <Beldar> darkelfjuggalo, Not really a good idea. How many PPA's and 3rd part repos are on the 12.04?
[02:33] <dozor> @darkeljuggalo Doesn't sound like a good idea...best to backup personal data and do a clean install
[02:34] <Quiet_Wildcard> hallo
[02:34] <darkelfjuggalo> i do not know, the computer belongs to my girlfriend's 5 yo for school... he personally wiped Windows System32 file, and Ubuntu was put on and forgotten about
[02:34] <Quiet_Wildcard> iemand hier?
[02:34] <Beldar> Quiet_Wildcard, English?
[02:35] <Beldar> darkelfjuggalo, 12.04 has 3 more years support why change now?
[02:36] <silveira> :P
[02:36] <dozor> That is true, unless a new feature is required, might as well stay
[02:36] <Quiet_Wildcard> sorry
[02:36] <Quiet_Wildcard> I am dutch
[02:36] <silveira> hey yours mother fucker
[02:36] <Quiet_Wildcard> I was a long time ago
[02:36] <silveira> bitchs
[02:36] <Quiet_Wildcard> on irc :
[02:36] <Quiet_Wildcard> :)
[02:37] <TaZeR> hey dont swear at us were good men
[02:37] <silveira> all like penis
[02:37] <Beldar> !ops | silveira
[02:37] <cynicallemon> you need archlinx the silveira
[02:37] <darkelfjuggalo> Because Some of the assignments she is giving him for the homeschooling requires more up-to-date  software than 12.04 has available, and i'd rather him have the best than to have risk the program crashing becuase it isn't compatible with the system version
[02:37] <phunyguy> let's not egg it on.
[02:37] <Beldar> Quiet_Wildcard, There is probably a dutch channel if needed.
[02:37] <nishi> how to check my wireless driver is working properly
[02:38] <Quiet_Wildcard> now i am looking for some great force to to act
[02:38] <Quiet_Wildcard> a thunderclap thing
[02:38] <darkelfjuggalo> I found this article for what I am wanting to do can anyone look over and tell me if they trust it http://www.namhuy.net/2853/upgrade-ubuntu-12-04-lts-ubuntu-14-04-lts.html
[02:39] <cynicallemon> nishi, connect to an access point is usually a good test
[02:40] <Vivekananda> am back and still trying to troubleshoot samba installation for my ubuntu 12.04.  daftykins yo uasked me to look at the documented samba issue and thought that I can run the ubuntu 12.04 update I havent run for a bit but during the update samba4 install did not go through :   https://gist.github.com/vvikramjhu/57c8ded5e86545874e06
[02:41] <Beldar> darkelfjuggalo, Back it up and install 14.04. The upgrade your proposing has it's perils and really needs an experienced user and even than may fail. Will take a long time is going through 3 eol's
[02:43] <cynicallemon> darkelfjuggalo, just make sure 12.04 is fully up to date and just do a sudo update-manager -d
[02:44] <darkelfjuggalo> I have no media to do the fresh install... I tried to make one and it wouldn't load; I have time he is at his Father's for a week and I want to have the computer working properly when he returns, so time isn't a factor to me
[02:45] <darkelfjuggalo> will sudo update-manager -d go to 14.04 directly or step by step?
[02:45] <Quiet_Wildcard> i lost al my knowledge for irc
[02:45] <Quiet_Wildcard> I downloaded mirc 7.34
[02:46] <Quiet_Wildcard> but i know if you put in command like
[02:46] <Quiet_Wildcard> ./connect irc.lichtsnel.nl
[02:46] <cynicallemon> darkelfjuggalo, directly
[02:46] <Quiet_Wildcard> it wouldn't connect :/
[02:47] <Quiet_Wildcard> * /connect: not connected to server
[02:47] <Quiet_Wildcard> :/
[02:47] <darkelfjuggalo> my update manager displays things that apt-get update/apt-get upgrade didn't find... some of it is hardware relate; should I install this before the 14.04 upgrade?
[02:48] <darkelfjuggalo> and linux kernal upgrade; kernal upgrade should be included in the dist-upgrade, correct?
[02:50] <cynicallemon> darkelfjuggalo, yeah i would do a apt-get dist-upgrade before the upgrade to 14.04
[02:51] <Beldar> darkelfjuggalo, Honestly if you can't just do this without more than say two questions easily answered, expecting the channel to hold your hand through the whole thing is just not thinking. If it was just yours it would be one thing but it's another's. Be the positive roe model and hero your trying to be another way.
[02:52] <cynicallemon> Beldar, some of us need some hand holding and is more pressurised when its someone elses box
[02:52] <darkelfjuggalo> ok the update-manage updates found, which are mostly about linux kernal 3.11.0-26 do I need these before or after moving to 14.04
[02:52] <Beldar> cynicallemon, Let the user defend themselves and don't enable.
[02:53] <cynicallemon> Beldar, thats what I love about community spirit
[02:54] <cynicallemon> darkelfjuggalo, what is it telling you to do?
[02:54] <darkelfjuggalo> Beldar; I have enough training in linux to keep my own device running which is i started with 13.04 being my first ubuntu, This is a new obstacle from me, and I dont want to screw it up twice, so I am doing internet and IRC research to minimize that chance...
[02:54] <Beldar> from a failed 12.04 to 14.04 to a one by one through eol's back to a 12->14 is just not really thinking when not having any ability to check the repos etc.
[02:56] <darkelfjuggalo> cynicallemon ; update manager tells me 14.04 is available with update button; followed by hardware support with install button; followed by a list of 7 updates mostly about linux kernal version mentioned above
[02:56] <cynicallemon> just update it then, the process will update what needs updating in the correct order
[02:57] <sydney> So,if i am in a terminal window,and i cd into a folder,how do i 'un-cd' back out of it?
[02:57] <cynicallemon> darkelfjuggalo, well thats the theory anyway :)
[02:57] <cynicallemon> sydney, cd ..
[02:58] <sydney> Thanks!! :)
[02:58] <Beldar> sydney, as long as the work is done there and leaving is all that's needed an exit command
[02:59] <cynicallemon> sydney, u need a terminal 101 class :)
[02:59] <sydney> Beldar: i know,but it will come in handy :P
[02:59] <sydney> cynicallemon: i know most of the basics. :D
[02:59] <gr33n7007h> sydney, cd ..
[03:02] <gshmu> I'm using GIMP, when focus Toolbox, I can't using menu.  screen-shot: https://clbin.com/XJCiVm.png
[03:02] <sydney> cynicallemon: quiz me on some of the basics :)
[03:02] <darkelfjuggalo> Beldar; the return to 12.04 after the crash was a Recovery; the step by step idea was the next best thing i had since I mainly use terminal to apt-get upgrades, and to do what I have had to do before, I use GUI for non-system processes, so there is a lot I am not familiar with in this Area and I am trying to learn with the trial and Error without frying anything; I thank you and Cynicallemon for your advice and assistance; and I appreciate your co
[03:03] <dozor> @sydney another useful one...if you do a full path or multiple folder cd, you can return to your previous working directory by a "cd -"
[03:04] <dozor> most useful if you are, for example, in your /home/ folder and go somewhere else, such as /var/log, do some work and then need to move back to /home/
[03:04] <sydney> dozor:  :)
[03:04] <xangua> gshmu: you can enable gimp single window mode so the menu is always aviable
[03:04] <newbiee> ok thanks you all :)
[03:05] <gshmu> xangua: thanks
[03:05] <xangua> gshmu: go to window menu, singe window mode
[03:05] <sydney> I am learning to type without looking at the keyboard. :P Ugg
[03:05] <gshmu> xangua: work better
[03:06] <cynicallemon> darkelfjuggalo, no worries, hope it works out ok
[03:06] <Quiet_Wildcard> hi
[03:06] <cynicallemon> sydney, i am a proficient two fingered typist and proud of it
[03:07] <dozor> http://www.tipp10.com/en/
[03:07] <dozor> :-)
[03:09] <darkelfjuggalo> Thanks, I'm sure this should do fine... I do wish a 64-bit was on this computer though; the processor is AMD Anthalon 64
[03:09] <daftykins> so reinstall?
[03:10] <darkelfjuggalo> daftykins; No Media; I wasted a few discs trying to make a 64-bit install for 14.04 through unetbootin that the system would not read at all
[03:13] <cynicallemon> darkelfjuggalo, easier with a usb stick
[03:13] <dozor> agreed, usb stick for sure
[03:13] <cynicallemon> havent used a CD for about 4 years now
[03:14] <darkelfjuggalo> I left mine in louisiana back in April; no money to get a new one and I have 2 8GB that just barely hold half a GB becuase they fried in formatting to prepare for being made a Boot Device
[03:17] <Vivekananda> daftykins: in case you have a look at the console output you can see that during the update the samba4 ran into errors . please advice on how to purge and install samba4 again or is there something else I can do . ubuntu 12.04
[03:18] <daftykins> Vivekananda: sorry i'm off the clock watching a film
[03:18] <cynicallemon> darkelfjuggalo, they probably need a complete wipe and a new partition table creating
[03:18] <Quiet_Wildcard> hi
[03:18] <Quiet_Wildcard> I used a very famous IRC client back in 2002
[03:18] <daftykins> Vivekananda: although i could take a glance to see if my suspicions were right about your /etc/apt/sources.list if you pastebin it
[03:19] <Quiet_Wildcard> I can't remember the name anymore
[03:19] <Quiet_Wildcard> i remember someltink like twitch and it had a green logo
[03:19] <OerHeks> !info samb4 precise
[03:19] <Quiet_Wildcard> it wasn't twitch
[03:19] <Red_Mist> "<cynicallemon> havent used a CD for about 4 years now" My cd drive was so underused, it had jammed in place.. I had to keep tapping on it to make it open.
[03:19] <Quiet_Wildcard> who know what i mean
[03:20] <Vivekananda> daftykins: sure one sec
[03:20] <OerHeks> Quiet_Wildcard, on ubuntu ?
[03:20] <cynicallemon> Red_Mist, LOL
[03:20] <Quiet_Wildcard> no windows
[03:20] <Red_Mist> yeah, its wierd.. cd/dvd drives are the new floppy drives.
[03:21] <Quiet_Wildcard> and linux too i think
[03:21] <Quiet_Wildcard> it isn't in development anymore
[03:21] <Quiet_Wildcard> but it was way better than mirc does days
[03:21] <Vivekananda> daftykins: http://pastie.org/9457100   btw what did you suspect ?
[03:21] <OerHeks> Quiet so it is not ubuntu support related
[03:21] <darkelfjuggalo> I couldn't get into it like that unless I( was in OS Install...Windows requires me to format 90% of the time i plug it in, which I believe is a re-partition but when i lost the memory no form of reformat regardless of the filesystem type would give me that memory back
[03:21] <OerHeks> Quiet_Wildcard, join ##windows
[03:22] <Quiet_Wildcard> tnx
[03:22] <Quiet_Wildcard> :)
[03:23] <daftykins> Vivekananda: nope i was wrong, i imagined non-standard repos
[03:23] <cynicallemon> OerHeks, you should have helped him out - and charged him, windows users like to pay :)
[03:23] <Quiet_Wildcard> I know it!
[03:24] <Quiet_Wildcard> It was Pirch! :D
[03:28] <Vivekananda> daftykins: samba share was working fine and I guess in the process of purging / reinstalling it I messed something up. I wonder if there is a way to simply purge it all and then re install it and the system config of samba
[03:31] <Guest22158> this is my first use xchat , I'd like to know how can I change my  name to show?
[03:31] <SchrodingersScat>  /nick show
[03:31] <cynicallemon> Vivekananda, sudo apt-get remove --purge samba
[03:31] <Red_Mist> is there a point to stacking directories?
[03:31] <zykotick9> cynicallemon: fyi, "sudo apt-get purge foo" works, and is less typing
[03:32] <gr33n7007h> Guest22158, you could also join /join #xchat"
[03:32] <cynicallemon> zykotick9, yes well foo is shorter than samba :)
[03:33] <Guest22158> thanks!
[03:33] <gr33n7007h> np
[03:33] <Vivekananda> cynicallemon: yes I ried that and it does not work :(
[03:34] <daftykins> Vivekananda: what you did should've done it already, but you should be on 12.04.5 by now
[03:34] <cynicallemon> hexchat has more development than xchat now
[03:36] <gr33n7007h> jIRCii ftw
[03:39] <OerHeks> Vivekananda, why does it not work?
[03:39] <Vivekananda> OerHeks: it gives me errors
[03:39] <OerHeks> Vivekananda, did you stop samba4  first ?
[03:40] <Vivekananda> I just updated though so I I guess I will reboot
[03:40] <Vivekananda> OerHeks: ow nope I did not . let me try sudo service samba stop
[03:40] <Vivekananda> and then try again
[03:41] <Vivekananda> yep errors but I will try again after restart
[03:48] <AS> HELLO
[04:02] <Marion_> Does anyone know how to make ubuntu automaticly run xset -dpms and xset s off when your distro starts?
[04:05] <Vivekananda> OerHeks: I am back and tried to remove samba after stopping it . here is the output of the error : http://pastie.org/9457155
[04:06] <newbie|3> Hi
[04:07] <Ben64> Vivekananda: what is that samba4 package you have there?
[04:08] <OerHeks> Vivekananda, try to be exact > sudo apt-get --purge remove samba4
[04:12] <Vivekananda> OerHeks: okay trying again
[04:15] <Vivekananda> OerHeks: it worked so now I guess I dont have samba. I am trying to install samba now to get the sharing working. Will doing this work ? :  http://www.ubuntututorials.com/ubuntu-12-04-join-windows-workgroup/          or do I have to install the whole samba4 and other packages
[04:15] <OerHeks> Vivekananda, i don't know, i do not use samba
[04:16] <edition> !Vivekananda Samba is a service
[04:16] <OerHeks> samba4 is in alpha stage, not sure it is good to install
[04:16] <edition> @Vivekananda Samba is a service
[04:17] <TaZeR> are neck beards cool?
[04:17] <TaZeR> do any ubuntu devs have them
[04:19] <edition> !op TaZeR offtopic
[04:19] <TaZeR> !op edition reporting offtopic...
[04:20] <Ben64> TaZeR: keep this channel clear for ubuntu support only please
[04:20] <Vivekananda> OerHeks: in that case how do I enable network sharing between windows and ubuntu computers ?
[04:20] <eeee> !ops | TaZeR
[04:20] <TaZeR> will do
[04:20] <phunyguy> hi
[04:23] <phunyguy> let's not abuse the !ops trigger please.  They are there for emergencies, not someone making a single offtopic remark.  We are better than this.
[04:31] <man_alive> complete noob needs a little help  :-)
[04:33] <Vivekananda> man_alive: ask your question
[04:33] <man_alive> Thanks.  Got a free VPS for a month. Trying to figure out what packages are installed.
[04:35] <man_alive> Tried several commands over SSH but none show libtorrent or rtorrent, both of which are currently running so I know they are installed!
[04:35] <man_alive> Well rtorrent is running and it relies on libtorrent.
[04:36] <man_alive> tried -- dpkg --get-selections | grep -v deinstall
[04:37] <man_alive> I guess I should say $ dpkg --get-selections | grep -v deinstall
[04:38] <man_alive> also tried $ aptitude search '~i!~M'
[04:39] <man_alive> I get a nice long list of packages but neither libtorrent nor rtorrent are showing up
[04:39] <man_alive> Not sure why they wouldn't
[04:39] <SchrodingersScat> man_alive: how did you install them?
[04:40] <man_alive> Followed a script I found
[04:40] <SchrodingersScat> man_alive: if you compiled them, then why would dpkg know they are installed?
[04:40] <man_alive> downloaded gz and then used make and install
[04:40] <man_alive> Oh
[04:40] <SchrodingersScat> !info dpkg | man_alive
[04:41] <Linolex> hi all, what is the command / syntax to hide all JOINS PARTS and QUITS here?
[04:41] <SchrodingersScat> Linolex: that depends on your client, afaik
[04:42] <bgs> does anyone know how to forcibly switch frequency scaling back to acpi? adding `intel_pstate=disable` to grub doesn't seem to have helped.
[04:42] <Linolex> SchrodingersScat: just joining through Pidgin right now - on ubuntu
[04:42] <man_alive> Schrod: Are you saying that by installing the way I did I didn't actually "install" the packages?
[04:43] <SchrodingersScat> man_alive: you installed them, but you've circumvented dpkg/apt/etc. so you can't expect them to know about this.
[04:43] <man_alive> Aaaah. As I said, absolute noob.
[04:44] <man_alive> So, I want to upgrade my versions.
[04:44] <SchrodingersScat> Linolex: http://wiki.xkcd.com/irc/hide_join_part_messages#Pidgin_.28aka_Gaim.29 worth a shot
[04:44] <man_alive> I know who to download new and recompile as I can just change version numbers
[04:44] <man_alive> but I don't know how to get rid of my current versions.
[04:45] <man_alive> how*
[04:45] <enchilado> Linolex: I recommend not using Pidgin
[04:45] <SchrodingersScat> man_alive: if they install to the same spot, I'm not even sure if that's a problem.
[04:46] <man_alive> OK. If I follow my original list of steps they should simply overwrite, yes?
[04:46] <SchrodingersScat> man_alive: at least, for rtorrest and libtorrent, mileage may vary elsewhere
[04:46] <man_alive> Those are the two I'm looking at. I'm learning QUICKLY but it is trial by fire so far.
[04:47] <Linolex> enchilado: yes, I know, but sometimes and right now I am on Pidgin, but I thought that the /ignore command was the one doing this trick, and thus related to the server, and not to the software client... (hiding JOINS PARTS QUITS messages), but there seems not to be any "/ignore" commands on this server?
[04:47] <SchrodingersScat> man_alive: yep, get the new version, unpack, configure, etc.
[04:48] <Linolex> enchilado: (I am connecting through irc.ubuntu.com, perhaps different if I connected directly to irc.freenet.net?)
[04:48] <man_alive> Okay. That sounds easy.
[04:48] <enchilado> Linolex: AFAIK yes you have to do that client-side
[04:48] <man_alive> I assume my version of Ubuntu is a server version as it is terminal.
[04:48] <SchrodingersScat> Linolex: was that option in the pidgin menu like the wiki said?
[04:48] <enchilado> Use chat.freenode.net, not irc.freenode.net
[04:48] <SchrodingersScat> man_alive: likely
[04:49] <man_alive> Schrod: Would that be accurate, likely?
[04:50] <SchrodingersScat> man_alive: shouldn't really matter in this case, but sure, vps is probably server.
[04:50] <man_alive> Schrod: Can you recommend a source for me to read up on concepts? I've done a lot of googling and everywhere seems to have different recommendations.
[04:51] <wafflejock__> running Kubuntu here anyone got a suggestion for a hylafax-client GUI I can use or place with steps to configure print to fax
[04:51] <man_alive> I have done some programming but .nix is pretty much new to me.
[04:52] <SchrodingersScat> man_alive: You might have to narrow that down.  one goal at a time
[04:53] <man_alive> Schrod: I'm having a somewhat hard time with concepts. There seem to be services to start and stop. And "Screen" seems important.
[04:53] <man_alive> Happy to do work but not found really good source YET (sure I will).
[04:54] <cynicallemon> man_alive, what you looking for?
[04:54] <SchrodingersScat> man_alive: services are basically magic to me, you'll need someone longer in the tooth than me to explain that.  screen is awesome though. lets you continue work even if you disconnect, etc., split up the window for multiple frames, etc.
[04:54] <Linolex> SchrodingersScat: yes, thanks, needed to enable that plugin, seems to be working fine :-)
[04:54] <man_alive> So why do I see references to daemon all the time?
[04:55] <cynicallemon> SchrodingersScat, tmux is also good for that too
[04:55] <SchrodingersScat> Linolex: great
[04:57] <man_alive> SchrodingersScat: You've given me some really good hints at stuff to try. I'm off to SSH for a while. Might be back.
[04:57] <SchrodingersScat> man_alive: good luck
[04:57] <Linolex> enchilado: would you mind giving an example or two why you would recommend NOT using Pidgin for IRC?
[04:59] <cynicallemon> do people still use pidgin?
[05:00] <enchilado> Linolex: because it's a terrible IRC client that is limited with a poorly designed interface
[05:00] <SchrodingersScat> cynicallemon: I prefer finch
[05:00] <enchilado> Linolex: I'd recommend irssi or if you'd prefer a GUI then hexchat
[05:01] <Linolex> enchilado: that was why I asked, can you make an example of what is "most terrible" about it, which is far better in a real IRC client?
[05:01] <cynicallemon> SchrodingersScat, finch is ok but it has some heavy dependancies
[05:01] <SchrodingersScat> Linolex: this is getting a little off-topic, ultimately you can use what you like.  did you have a ubuntu question?
[05:02] <cynicallemon> enchilado, agreed
[05:02] <Linolex> SchrodingersScat: it is related to which irc client I will choose to use in Ubuntu, Pidgin or "other", which one is recommended and mostly used in Ubuntu?
[05:03] <OerHeks> irssi
[05:03] <cynicallemon> Linolex, i would prefer to use a specific irc app as opposed to a general all-in-one chat app just for security
[05:04] <Linolex> OerHeks: irssi I know from earlier, command-line based, I remember I liked it when using it on 10.04 a while
[05:04] <cynicallemon> OerHeks, yes irssi for terminal/console and hexchat for gui
[05:05] <Linolex> cynicallemon: is hexchat more secure than Pidgin?
[05:06] <cynicallemon> Linolex, well, hexchat deals with one protocol whereas pidgin deals with several hence more possible avenue of attack
[05:06] <Bashing-om> Linolex: irssi -> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1010780 <- how to install set up irssi, old but still works .
[05:07] <Linolex> SchrodingersScat: right now on this computer I am using 12.04 LTS, and have not installed any particular irc client here, the only one that came pre-installed was Pidgin, not even hexchat is preinstalled, as it is in Linux Mint. Seemingly the only one Ubuntu pre-installs is Pidgin?
[05:07] <phunyguy> Linolex: they were right.  This is offtopic.  It is not the place for opinions.  If you need help with something that isn't working, we can help.  We aren't here to help you choose an IRC client.
[05:08] <phunyguy> I vote that we discontinue that topic, and move on.
[05:08] <Linolex> cynicallemon: yes, of course, but since I will be connecting to several networks and need pidgin or other such thing for the non-irc connections, I will keep one such software open anyway. That is why Pidgin might be "enough", so I dont need so many different software to manage "chats"
[05:08] <wafflejock__> no one using any hylafax frontends?
[05:09] <Linolex> phunyguy: ok, terminating this "topic" now then
[05:09] <wafflejock__> I'm considering trying to get avantfax running but it's on a RasPBX box
[05:11] <edition> i notice that "ifconfig eth0 | grep 'RX bytes' " gets the recieved bytes for eth0
[05:11] <edition> how can this be accessible from C++?
[05:11] <edition> is there a related Linux API around ifconfig?
[05:11] <wafflejock__> edition: http://www.cplusplus.com/forum/unices/4956/
[05:12] <wafflejock__> edition: the general answer is as they have there either look in the source or do a system call
[05:12] <edition> in windows I would use the 'dependancy viewer'...
[05:12] <edition> so use objdump?
[05:13] <hyper_ch> hi there, I have a weird issue: when I attach an external usb 3 drive to a usb 3 port it doesn't show up anymore. It used to work just fine. However when I attach it to a usb 2 port it works
[05:13] <edition> !hyper_ch | have you tried lsusb -v?
[05:14] <hyper_ch> edition: it doesn't seem to spin up and doens't show up as sdX device
[05:14] <hyper_ch> but I?ll try lsusb -v
[05:14] <edition> dont forget grep :)
[05:14] <hyper_ch> ls /dev | grep sd
[05:15] <edition> are you sure?
[05:16] <hyper_ch> weird, now it started working after switching betweeen usb 2 and 3 ports like 5 time
[05:16] <hyper_ch> times
[05:16] <hyper_ch> fine, now I can do the raid hot swap backup :)
[05:16] <wafflejock__> edition: http://packages.ubuntu.com/trusty/net-tools
[05:17] <Beldar> hyper_ch, are you unmounting the usb before removing?
[05:17] <hyper_ch> Beldar: yes, but in that case it wasn't even mounted
[05:17] <edition> is there a direct method of getting source, for a well known program?
[05:17] <edition> such as ifconfig?
[05:17] <TJ-> hyper_ch: in a terminal run a watch on the kernel log and then insert the USB connector, see if there  are any events at all: "tail -f /var/log/kern.log"
[05:18] <Beldar> hyper_ch, The question was a general context of use .
[05:18] <hyper_ch> Beldar: that's the script I run on it http://paste.ubuntu.com/7995160/
[05:18] <TJ-> hyper_ch: somtimes ports that are shared by multiple USB controllers get 'stuck' and need a controller reset to kick them
[05:18] <hyper_ch> TJ-: will do so next time :) thx
[05:19] <wafflejock__> edition: I linked to it above
[05:19] <OerHeks> !source
[05:19] <edition> ok
[05:20] <edition> can I just borrow functionality from other programs of interest?
[05:21] <hyper_ch> writing with almost 95MB/s to external usb 3 drive is much better than usb 2 with 1/10th of that speed :)
[05:21] <obiwandk> &
[05:22] <wafflejock__> edition: just found this on googling for finding the package an app belongs to http://superuser.com/questions/10997/find-what-package-a-file-belongs-to-in-ubuntu-debian
[05:23] <wafflejock__> edition: regarding code you'll need to see the projects license usually in a LICENSE file with the source to know what you can do with the code
[05:23] <edition> ok :)
[05:23] <edition> so ill need to ask before 'borrowing' parts of code
[05:24] <wafflejock__> edition: maybe depends on the license, sometimes you need to include the license sometimes you need to give credit sometimes you need to ask but it depends
[05:25] <edition> is GTK+ ok for most ubuntu distributions?
[05:25] <cynicallemon> use BSD licensed stuff - far easier
[05:25] <wafflejock__> probably always safer to ask if you can get a response but some of the licenses are really open and allow you to do whatever you want but just free the author(s) from liability
[05:25] <edition> ill contact my lawyer...
[05:26] <wafflejock__> indeed IANAL
[05:29] <wafflejock__> edition: generally speaking you can make system calls though and not be including anyone's source really but just have an external dependency then even so licensing is a hairy issue
[05:29] <cynicallemon> kinda ironic how stallman goes on about freedoms yet when you try to develop software the gpl is a damn minefield
[05:29] <edition> :/
[05:29] <wafflejock__> cynicallemon: stallman has a very "narrow" definition for when he talks about freedoms
[05:32] <cynicallemon> freedom 4 - use BSD or MIT licenses
[05:32] <edition> is stallman creating a brick wall for corporates?
[05:32] <cynicallemon> ask netfliks
[05:32] <wafflejock__> edition: he's just trying to guarantee open source stays open source I think, but he might be mad
[05:32] <edition> probably :)
[05:33] <OerHeks> please keep this channel free for ubuntu support, join #ubuntu-offtopic for chit-chat
[05:33] <wafflejock__> sorry drifted off topic
[05:33] <wafflejock__> so no one on the hylafx eh "print is dead"
[05:34] <cynicallemon> yep he doesnt like ubuntu so lets not talk about him...
[05:34] <wafflejock__> hylafax*
[05:34] <daftykins> support only is the name of the game
[05:35] <cynicallemon> daftykins, dont forget community too, thats what drives it all
[05:36] <gr33n7007h> would doing "ulimit -c unlimited" cause any problems?
[05:36] <daftykins> cynicallemon: i'm talking about the purpose of this channel.
[05:37] <tirdtoon> join #yii
[05:38] <OerHeks> gr33n7007h, if your hardware can handle unlimited connections, no
[05:39] <gr33n7007h> OerHeks, just thought I'd ask because a java program I'm trying to run suggests doing just this
[05:41] <george1> is ubuntu 12.10 repositores servers going to be closed?
[05:42] <OerHeks> george1, yes
[05:42] <OerHeks> !12.10
[05:42] <george1> that means we can;t download apps from it anymore?
[05:43] <OerHeks> george1, it is EOL, so no updates. and serverspace cost money.
[05:43] <cynicallemon> george1, all retired versions get archived
[05:44] <george1> what do they do with archived ones? do they delete all apps from such repositores ?
[05:44] <brotherBox> Hi people. I use Ubuntu 14.04 x64 with the terminator terminal emulator and the terminus font. Doing a specific action in terminator crashes with the notification, that the !scaled_font->cache_frozen assertion in /build/buildd/cairo-1.13.0~20140204/src/cairo-scaled-font.c:459 failed. I have tried rebuilding the font cache with no success for my original problem. I also found that the problem only occurs when
[05:44] <brotherBox> using the terminus font. Can anyone point me in the direction towards steps that get this fixed?
[05:44] <daftykins> george1: they get renamed
[05:44] <OerHeks> there is an old-release hack, but i wouldn't bother it
[05:45] <george1> renamed? so those apps still remain there right daftykins?
[05:46] <cynicallemon> george1, http://old-releases.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/
[05:46] <daftykins> george1: as mentioned, it's a bad idea to make use of an EOL release. you should upgrade.
[05:46] <cynicallemon> george1, thats the repo greaveyard
[05:49] <george1> seems like i need to upgrade to 14.10, though i am little bit concerned here, a lot of users saying the kernel 3.13 is not bootng on some computers (especially older ones), also is this kernel stable enough? daftykins?
[05:50] <OerHeks> select your souces carefull :p
[05:50] <daftykins> george1: *14.04
[05:51] <george1> daftykins yes 14.04 trusty t
[05:51] <george1> t
[05:51] <george1> tahr
[05:51] <tac-tics> Hey guys.
[05:52] <tac-tics> My wifi suddenly goes out after long periods of working just fine
[05:52] <tac-tics> A friend suggested upgrading to the latest kernel might help (3.13 -> 3.15 or 3.16)
[05:52] <TJ-> tac-tics: check "/var/log/syslog" for clues
[05:52] <tac-tics> does that sound reasonable?
[05:53] <brotherBox> tac-tics: have you tried different machines/routers?
[05:53] <george1> latest kernels are least stable compared to older ones
[05:53] <tac-tics> TJ-: yeah. I'm trying to pinpoint exactly when it goes down so I can grab an error message
[05:53] <TJ-> tac-tics: it's not ideal to blindly change core components without evidence they are at fault; you may end up causing other problems
[05:53] <tac-tics> brotherBox: this laptop has had no problems with wifi. My new laptop has had problems at 3 separate locations (home, parent's home, hackerspace)
[05:54] <tac-tics> TJ-: True. Although it might also be a good learning experience.
[05:55] <tac-tics> It also appears (judging by NetworkManager) that my signal strength drops periodically
[05:55] <tac-tics> though again, no other laptop in the house has that issue
[05:56] <daftykins> wireless is radio, plenty of environmental elements could be attributed to that
[05:56] <daftykins> someone walking through your laptops line of sight, yada yada
[05:56] <tac-tics> Is Linux just less robust against environmental noise?
[05:56] <tac-tics> I was losing the signal consistently 3 feet in front of the wireless hub a few nights ago
[05:57] <TJ-> tac-tics: review the archives syslog files if the active one doesn't show anything, you can use "zgrep -n '\(wlan0\|wpa_supplicant\)' /var/log/syslog* | less" to isolate likely messages
[05:57] <TJ-> tac-tics: nothing to do with Linux... particular device chipset/driver combinations can have issues, especially where the manufacturers don't support the kernel module development actively
[05:58] <daftykins> tac-tics: that's a very daft statement
[05:58] <TJ-> tac-tics: most likely interference from other ISM devices on the same frequency band
[05:59] <gr33n7007h> tac-tics, try changing channel
[05:59] <daftykins> gr33n7007h: issue at 3 properties, that doesn't fly.
[05:59] <tac-tics> I can change the band here. But not at the other locations
[06:00] <gr33n7007h> daftykins, oh missed that completely
[06:00] <george1> daftykins a lot of users saying the kernel 3.13 is not booting on some computers (especially older ones), also is this kernel stable enough?
[06:00] <tac-tics> TJ-: There seems to be no error messages, using that command
[06:00] <TJ-> tac-tics: For example, do you use a Bluetooth headset with a cell phone close to the PC (BT uses the same frequency band as 802.11b/g/n - 2.4GHz)
[06:00] <daftykins> george1: one way to find out
[06:01] <tac-tics> TJ-: I do not
[06:01] <TJ-> tac-tics: I'm trying to point out the vast range of things that can contribute to signal drops that you wouldn't necessarily think of
[06:01] <tac-tics> and regardless of what noise there might be, our chrome book and three windows computers have not had trouble ever
[06:01] <george1> daftykins how?
[06:01] <gr33n7007h> even microwaves use 2.4
[06:01] <TJ-> tac-tics: different chipsets perform in different ways
[06:02] <tac-tics> that is possible
[06:02] <TJ-> tac-tics: if the signal drops so the PC loses the connection, you'll see it in the logs
[06:02] <tac-tics> perhaps i mis-typed the command
[06:03] <tac-tics> ah, I did
[06:03] <daftykins> george1: try it :P
[06:03] <TJ-> tac-tics: I was assuming the WiFi interface is "wlan0" but wpa_supplicant won't change
[06:03] <tac-tics> yeah. it's wlan0
[06:03] <daftykins> george1: stick to 12.04.5 if you don't want to go 3.13
[06:04] <george1> daftykins but trusty tahr comes default with 3.13 right?
[06:05] <TJ-> tac-tics: It isn't unusual, on portable PCs, to have the antenna connections jogged free from the sockets on the Wifi card internally. Usually they'll have 2 or 3 antennas (for MIMO)... just 1 coming free (if it is tasked with Rx  - receiving) can cause massive problems with reception even when Tx (transmission) is fine
[06:07] <mpourhadi> how can OS detect my monitor?
[06:07] <tac-tics> so I should be keeping an eye on both what I'm uploading and what I'm downloading separately for the purposes of diagnosing the problem?
[06:07] <daftykins> george1: all this will be apparant when you go to install it. plus available online... yes, yes it does.
[06:08] <TJ-> tac-tics: Just watch the current syslog, in a terminal, with "tail -f /var/log/syslog" and you'll soon get familiar with the messages that occur during normal operation, and hopefully spot abnormalities when things go wrong
[06:08] <tac-tics> gotcha
[06:08] <tac-tics> syslog isn't what you get from dmesg. Or is it?
[06:09] <TJ-> tac-tics: You can Ctrl+C to interrupt  the 'tail' and get back to the shell
[06:09] <jab> halo
[06:09] <jab> wie
[06:09] <tac-tics> TJ-: yep.
[06:09] <TJ-> tac-tics: syslog gathers all the service/daemon activity as well as some kernel activity.
[06:10] <tac-tics> I do Linux development. I just never learned much about how the system works beyond what a Lamp stack or C environment requires
[06:10] <TJ-> tac-tics: and what you're interested in specfically is wpa_supplicant messages and wlan0, wpa_supplicant is responsible for maintaining the encrypted WiFi link
[06:10] <tac-tics> I'm working to change that :)
[06:10] <tac-tics> gotcha
[06:11] <jab> wie geht es dir grade
[06:12] <TJ-> !de | jab
[06:13] <jab> ok
[06:35] <jadams> so I've got....something awful going on with my g++.  I was able to build a .so that uses libsass, but when I try to load it I get errors that seem to imply my libstdc++ or some such is the wrong version (that's being dynamically loaded) https://gist.github.com/knewter/6d044ad0c9f345ccfbb1
[06:35] <jadams> not really sur ehow to tell which library it's failing to load the correct version of
[06:36] <jadams> or how to make a simplified repro
[06:37] <enchilado> How could anyone mistake this for logic? http://imgur.com/gallery/lw8HeWG
[06:39] <enchilado> Wow
[06:39] <enchilado> Totally wrong channel
[06:39] <enchilado> Sorry :D
[06:39] <DoverMo> enchilado, so true!
[06:40] <edition> which IDE should I use with GTK+?
[06:41] <Biscuit> Do yall know how to tell the terminal where stuff in the downloads folder is?  I tried to say "cd downloads" but that didn't work
[06:42] <Biscuit> I downloaded a program but I don't know how to get it started from the terminal
[06:42] <bazhang> big D Biscuit
[06:42] <DoverMo> cuz "Downloads"
[06:42] <Biscuit> ok, I will try the big D, thanks
[06:43] <edition> how to get WinKey to open the Applications menu, in xfce?
[06:43] <cfhowlett> edition, ask #xfce      ?
[06:44] <edition> hey! cfhowlett!
[06:44] <cfhowlett> edition, ho!  1st Edition!
[06:44] <edition> aka. Ben Cottrell
[06:44] <edition> oops
[06:45] <cfhowlett> edition, oh, we're doxxing ourselves now? :)
[06:45] <Biscuit> @bazhang @DoverMo - thanks for the help. It works
[06:45] <edition> still trying to find a good GUI library to use...
[06:54] <darkelfjuggalo> I am running Ubuntu 14.04 LTS 32-Bit I have a Sapphire Graphics Card... unsure of the exact series number...With Ubuntu, will the exact series number matter when looking for Drivers?
[06:55] <cfhowlett> darkelfjuggalo, never heard of sapphire graphics.  I'd start with checking for support directly from sapphire.  exact match is optimal in all cases but if you can get to the same product release category, that often will get you at least partially up and running
[06:56] <DoverMo> darkelfjuggalo, sapphire is a brand. either use the addtional drivers dialog, or look at amd/nvidias website
[06:57] <JuJuBee> Greetings.  I have a frozen GUI however I can ssh to the same box.  How do I kill the GUI
[06:58] <trijntje> JuJuBee: sudo service lightdm restart
[06:58] <DoverMo> ^^^
[06:59] <JuJuBee> Screen still appears frozen.  No mouse movement or keyboard ... I tried ctrl-alt-f1 nothing
[07:00] <DoverMo> JuJuBee, replace restart with stop
[07:01] <JuJuBee> Screen still frozen, no mouse or keyboard working...
[07:02] <JuJuBee> Does it matter that I am using KDE?
[07:03] <cfhowlett> JuJuBee, easy test: logout.  choose an alternative DE.  login
[07:03] <JuJuBee> cfhowlett: cannot logout... ^
[07:04] <cfhowlett> JuJuBee, terminal inactive?  ow.  hate to suggest it, but a hard reboot may be advisable.
[07:04] <JuJuBee> cfhowlett: was trying  to avoid that
[07:04] <cfhowlett> JuJuBee, I completely agree ... but ...
[07:04] <JuJuBee> I can ssh
[07:05] <cfhowlett> JuJuBee, wait!
[07:05] <cfhowlett> !reisub|JuJuBee,
[07:07] <JuJuBee> well, that restarted the box
[07:07] <cfhowlett> JuJuBee, nice.  test the alternate DE?
[07:08] <helmut_> hi
[07:08] <DoverMo> was x freezing the system?
[07:08] <cfhowlett> !who
[07:08] <DoverMo> or was it a pre-x thing?
[07:10] <JuJuBee> DoverMo: I usually do use names but it is pretty quiet
[07:10] <JuJuBee> DoverMo: I don't know what was freezing it... htop did not show anything unusual
[07:11] <DoverMo> JuJuBee, oh no ;-;
[07:11] <scofieldpeng> sorry to interrupt everyone, is there anyone try to install the rabbitvcs on the unbuntu?(the filemanager is PCMAN-FM)
[07:12] <JuJuBee> Dover the command cfhowlett gave me worked.
[07:12] <JuJuBee> Thanks to both of you.
[07:12] <cfhowlett> JuJuBee, happy2help
[07:12] <JuJuBee> Gotta run
[07:12] <JuJuBee> laptop about to die
[07:13] <julio> ooohh nooo
[07:13] <scofieldpeng> i tried to install it, but it seems that it don't work on pcman-fm(i changed unity to lubuntu-desktop)
[07:18] <wafflejock> mystery solved can send and see old faxes from the hylafax server running on FreePBX RasPi using http://www.yajhfc.de/ (works in windows at least haven't done the deb installs yet but Java so I assume mostly the same)
[07:21] <OerHeks> !info hylafax-server
[07:25] <Biscuit> Today I installed the new Ubuntu 14 (last time I used Ubuntu 12.04). Previously I enjoyed the VPN service "Private Internet Access" (PIA). I have been googling to try to get PIA on my new computer, but I can't get it to work. Per chance do any of you know how to make it work? I've got it installed, but the icon is red and won
[07:25] <Biscuit> * icon is red and won't go green
[07:26] <cfhowlett> Biscuit, have you a url to PIA?
[07:27] <Biscuit> Yes cfhowlett, I have been on their website, but they don't support Ubuntu 14. The chat guy said, "Sorry not supported," and disconnected.
[07:27] <cfhowlett> Biscuit, well, that would seem to answer your query ...
[07:27] <cfhowlett> Biscuit, 12.04 is supported until 2017
[07:27] <devslash> im using redo backup and recovery which is based on ubuntu
[07:28] <devslash> has anyone used this before ?
[07:28] <cfhowlett> devslash, not ubuntu.  not supported here.
[07:28] <Biscuit> ha ha, yes, but I have been googling and found forums where people say they have got it to work in Ubuntu 14. I am so close, but no cigar
[07:28] <devslash> ok nm another quest
[07:28] <devslash> i replaced my drive with ssd but it wasnt formatted
[07:28] <devslash> i tried formatteing it as ntfs
[07:29] <devslash> then mounting it but i get an error ntfs signature is missing
[07:29] <Beldar> devslash, Did you make a partition table?
[07:30] <devslash> yea just 1 partition
[07:30] <devslash> formatted as ntfs
[07:31] <Beldar> devslash, Okay, do you know what a partition table is, not a partition.
[07:31] <devslash> yes
[07:31] <DoverMo> or you could just make it fat32 like a baws
[07:31] <devslash> nope
[07:31] <devslash> has to be ntfs
[07:32] <DoverMo> aw snap
[07:32] <Beldar> devslash, The way you answered does not say that however at least no clearly.
[07:32] <Beldar> not*
[07:32] <devslash> i have a partition table
[07:32] <devslash> i created it with gparted
[07:33] <anonymous_> hello
[07:33] <devslash> is that the right thing to do
[07:33] <anonymous_> ?
[07:33] <daftykins> hi.
[07:33] <cfhowlett> anonymous_, ask your ubuntu questions
[07:34] <anonymous_> ?
[07:34] <DoverMo> devslash, maybe you messed it up
[07:34] <devslash> ok i erased everything
[07:35] <DoverMo> devslash, you want it mbr?
[07:35] <DoverMo> or gpt
[07:36] <devslash> its a macbook
[07:36] <devslash> so its gpt right ?
[07:36] <daftykins> depends what you're trying to achieve
[07:37] <devslash> ibnstalling an os
[07:37] <DoverMo> devslash, I DUNNO bro. 'parted /dev/sd[poop] ; mklabel mbr ; [make a partition] ; [format ntfs, wait a long ass time]
[07:37] <DoverMo> wait
[07:37] <DoverMo> lo;l
[07:37] <DoverMo> it's "msdos" not mbr
[07:37] <DoverMo> wtf am i smoking
[07:38] <Beldar> DoverMo, language please.
[07:39] <amitprakash> Hi, how do i create a ubuntu container using systemd-nspawn on a non-ubuntu distribution?
[07:39] <cynicallemon> DoverMo:: youre smoking linux ubuntu edition
[07:40] <ax562> why does ubuntu suck :)
[07:40] <bazhang> !ot | ax562
[07:40] <cfhowlett> ax562, no FUD.
[07:41] <ax562> it was a joke?
[07:41] <bazhang> wrong channel for it ax562
[07:41] <cfhowlett> ax562, it wasn't funny.  stop now.
[07:41] <ax562> I <3 windows
[07:41] <cfhowlett> bazhang, thanks.  zero tolerance is the best policy.
[07:42] <ax562> cant take a joke
[07:42] <ax562> geezus
[07:42] <bazhang> #ubuntu-offtopic for chit chat ax562
[07:43] <cfhowlett> !guidelines|ax562, suggest you start your own "joke" channel.  also, review and follow the guidlines for use.
[07:43] <ax562> lol
[07:43] <ax562> dude I'm on ubuntu
[07:43] <cfhowlett> ax562, ask your support questions.  stay on topic.
[07:43] <ax562> ok
[07:44] <ax562> how can i fix my nvdia driver issue?
[07:44] <DoverMo> go windows!
[07:44] <ax562> windoze
[07:44] <cfhowlett> !nvidia | ax562
[07:45] <ax562> not working
[07:45] <cfhowlett> !details | ax562,
[07:45] <ax562> new bug that is not hw accel my card
[07:46] <DoverMo> ..
[07:46] <DoverMo> ax562, like how?
[07:46] <cfhowlett> ax562, no details = no assistance.
[07:47] <ax562> woe...just sharing my bugs
[07:47] <cfhowlett> !bug > ax562
[07:48] <ax562> I don't care about piss contest
[07:48] <ax562> linux vs windows
[07:48] <DoverMo> ax562, the nvidia drivers are non permissive closed source
[07:48] <ax562> just wondering why my pc doesn't live up to tech
[07:49] <DoverMo> ax562, the nouveau drivers are also strictly maintained by the free desktop community, however you could probably get a compiled version of the pre 3.10 nvidia release
[07:49] <ax562> i'm not trying to start a linux conflict
[07:49] <DoverMo> done! next customer
[07:50] <ax562> ?
[07:50] <cfhowlett> ax562, ? so why do you keep mentioning it?  if you have an actual support question: ask.  If you want to chitchat: #ubuntu-offtopic
[07:50] <Guest37482> hey everyone check out www.psykedelik-connection.com its my new social networking site, kind of struggling but still working on stuff in the future :) Thanks ! Nick K
[07:50] <cfhowlett> Guest37482, no spam.   unwelcome
[07:50] <ax562> ubuntu wants me to intstall drivers everytim e I log on
[07:51] <ax562> i install
[07:51] <ax562> then
[07:51] <ax562> again
[07:51] <ax562> install drivers
[07:51] <ax562> and video keeps skiiping, and skiiping and skipping
[07:51] <Guest37482> www.psykedelik-connection.com  #
[07:52] <Guest37482> #NICK K
[07:52] <cfhowlett> Guest37482, spam is a violation of the use guidelines.  stop spamming or go elsewhere.
[07:52] <ax562> not trolling.
[07:52] <Symian> ax562: weird, I've ran Ubuntu on dozens of systems that ran video perfectly. It sounds like maybe your computer is too old or cheap or something.
[07:52] <DoverMo> such troll
[07:52] <ax562> i was good about 4 months ago
[07:53] <ax562> lol
[07:53] <ax562> now I'm a target for asking for help?
[07:53] <c0d304> alt1
[07:54] <cfhowlett> c0d304, what?
[07:54] <c0d304> sorry was a mistake
[07:54] <cfhowlett> c0d304, no problem
[07:54] <Symian> ax562: did you install any major software before your computer became messed up? It might be a hardware failure.
[07:54] <ax562> ok. so no help?
[07:54] <cfhowlett> !patience | ax562,
[07:55] <ax562> no. I reinstalled ubuntu
[07:55] <Symian> ax562: where you live is it very hot weather? An overheated PC sometimes slows everything down.
[07:56] <ax562> I'm sorry.  That's why people feel intimidated comming to these boards.
[07:56] <ax562> Symian:lol. yes. I live in the iron core of earth. yes
[07:57] <Symian> Okay cool, good luck
[07:57] <ax562> exactly. thanks
[07:57] <DoverMo> ax562, read the manual
[07:57] <ax562> what?
[07:57] <ax562> read the manual?
[07:57] <loucal> I have been having the worst time getting my radeon 7790 to work with the catalyst drivers after upgrading to 14.04, no matter what my xorg.conf doesn't survive a reboot and I end up with only my apu (radeon 7480) working on reboot (monitors plugged into my gpu are black).  Anyone have any idea what i going on here?
[07:57] <DoverMo> yeah
[07:57] <DoverMo> read it
[07:58] <ax562> ok dude.
[07:58] <cfhowlett> !behelpful | DoverMo,
[07:58] <DoverMo> ax562, okay. i'mma be helpful. you actually have video skipping?
[07:58] <cfhowlett> loucal, 14.04?  current release is 14.04.1.  sudo apt-get dist-upgrade                    might fix you.
[07:59] <ax562> im not an expert but I would like experince opinion without judgement if possible.
[07:59] <DoverMo> ax562, you haven't answered my question
[07:59] <devslash> can anyone explain what kind of partition table i need to create
[07:59] <Symian> He's just trolling. Give it up boys.
[07:59] <ax562> I'm on 12.04 lts 64
[07:59] <ax562> dude
[07:59] <ax562> what?
[07:59] <DoverMo> yeah
[07:59] <ax562> trolling?
[07:59] <loucal> cfhowlett: thanks.. I only updated about 2 weeks ago to 14.04 but I'll try that
[08:00] <cfhowlett> ax562, pretty clear ... you're being observed.  stay on topic or ...
[08:00] <ax562> weird how people thing others troll.
[08:00] <ax562> ^see above.
[08:01] <DoverMo> ax562, ^see myy post
[08:01] <ax562> yes
[08:01] <DoverMo> ax562, you have.. frame skipping?
[08:02] <ax562> hd video skips
[08:02] <DoverMo> ax562, okay, and how much ram do you have?
[08:02] <ax562> 4gb
[08:02] <Symian> Onboard video cards suck at playing high end HD video as well.
[08:02] <Symian> Might be that.
[08:02] <ax562> windows play flawlessly
[08:03] <ax562> I have a lot of bluray
[08:03] <cfhowlett> ax562, current 12.04 version is 12.04.5         sudo apt-get dist-upgrade           may fix your issue.
[08:03] <ax562> i can try and will
[08:04] <loucal> Ok did a dist upgrade to 14.04.1 but no difference, on every reboot my beautiful xorg.conf is rewritten with an ugly 9 line one with 2 device sections one BusID "PCI:0@0:1:0" and the other PCI:1@0:0:0, does anyone know what could cause my xorg.conf to be rewritten on reboot?
[08:04] <ax562> would that mess up anything in my system?
[08:04] <DoverMo> ax562, it's either a ram, gpu (not drivers, the gpu capability), or cpu, limiting your HD playback. You can attempt to reinstall drivers such as your gpu's or maybe adobe flash if you use that, but I doubt those are the problem
[08:04] <cfhowlett> ax562, also test vlc-player.  it's in the repos
[08:04] <ax562> I'm currenty building
[08:05] <ax562> lol.  all work in windows. not a cpu gpu issue.
[08:05] <ax562> I play blurays beautifully in wondow without a hickup
[08:05] <DoverMo> ax562, windows is highly optimized
[08:05] <ax562> ok
[08:05] <ax562> so
[08:06] <ax562> ubuntu need optimization?
[08:06] <cynicallemon> ati video drivers are second rate in linux
[08:06] <ax562> nvdia
[08:06] <cfhowlett> ax562, you installed the restricted extras???
[08:06] <Guest37482> everyone check out www.psykedelik-connection.com thanks:) Nick K
[08:06] <ax562> no atie
[08:06] <cfhowlett> !ops | Guest37482 spamming
[08:07] <DoverMo> ax562, no. that's not the case at all with ubuntu
[08:07] <ax562> I'm just wondering why after installling with proper drivers I cant handle hd video
[08:07] <ax562> and in windows i can
[08:08] <cfhowlett> ax562, DID YOU install the restricted extras?
[08:08] <loucal> aticonfig -lsa does show both cards but the weak apu is the default and it seems to want to disable the 7790
[08:08] <edition> does Android-x86 work with virt-manager?
[08:08] <edition> *iso image
[08:09] <DoverMo> ax562, in this situation, windows has no similarities
[08:10] <ax562> cfhowlett: extras?
[08:10] <Beldar> edition, That would be a #android issue
[08:10] <ax562> DoverMo: similarities? one does a job one doesn't?
[08:10] <edition> ok
[08:11] <cfhowlett> ax562, ubuntu-restricted-extras      multimedia drivers.  also VLC is a reliable alternate media player.  Test both
[08:11] <loucal> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2220552 is actually exactly what is going on but I'm not having success like he is at fixing it
[08:11] <DoverMo> ax562, as in.. the way the software is coded between the two, cannot be reliably compared for accuracy
[08:11] <ax562> vlc is mediocre at best
[08:11] <ax562> one works one doesn't.
[08:11] <ax562> that's reliable.
[08:12] <cfhowlett> ax562,  so ... you tested it?
[08:12] <ax562> vlc never gave me good results before
[08:12] <ax562> 6 months ago
[08:12] <ax562> I can try again
[08:12] <ax562> by good result
[08:12] <cfhowlett> ax562, this is called "troubleshooting".  try method A.  outcome = X.  try method B.  outcome = X.
[08:12] <ax562> I mean HIGH quality video without skipping
[08:13] <DoverMo> ax562, there was a version of vlc that was causing distortion with the default sound server settings, but it's been fixed
[08:13] <ax562> ok
[08:13] <ax562> ok
[08:13] <ax562> I will try
[08:13] <ax562> I will be back with horrible results. my prediction.
[08:13] <ax562> brb
[08:13] <wafflejock> ax562: yeah VLC has been pretty solid for a long time for playing lots of codecs
[08:14] <ax562> yes but not hight quality video
[08:14] <ax562> EVER.
[08:14] <wafflejock> ax562: perhaps worth debugging further to see what bottlenecks you're hitting
[08:14] <ax562> vlc plays everything but at a meh quality
[08:14] <cynicallemon> mplayer is good IMHO
[08:14] <ax562> I use media player classic for hd video files
[08:15] <ax562> which wine will not execute
[08:15] <ax562> brb
[08:15] <ax562> should I use ubuntu-software center?
[08:15] <BuJitsuBrown> i recently upgraded to 14.04 from 12 lts. when my laptop boots up is say kubuntu  but my login screen and everything from that point on says ubuntu. does any one have a possible answer as to why this might be happing?
[08:16] <ax562> or should I go through vlc?
[08:16] <cfhowlett> BuJitsuBrown, at some point you test kubuntu?
[08:16] <ax562> apt-get?
[08:16] <BuJitsuBrown> yes i belive so like a year and a half ago
[08:17] <DoverMo> ax562, 'su -c "aptitude install vlc" root'
[08:17] <BuJitsuBrown>  another thing that bothers me is i dont ever get the grub screen
[08:17] <cfhowlett> ax562, sudo apt-get install ubuntu-restricted-extras vlc-player
[08:17] <ax562> cfhowlett: I do not have vlc present on my system.  does that work?
[08:18] <cfhowlett> ax562, install vlc with software center not CLI
[08:19] <Beldar> BuJitsuBrown, Single OS installs bypass the grub menu, tap shift to see it.
[08:19] <cfhowlett> BuJitsuBrown, you can invoke grub ^^
[08:19] <cfhowlett> BuJitsuBrown, you won't normally see it until you install a new kernel
[08:19] <ax562> imho high quality video/sound architecture is ignored for linux support
[08:19] <BuJitsuBrown> oh ok thank you
[08:19] <cfhowlett> ax562, off-topic
[08:20] <DoverMo> BuJitsuBrown, if you edit /etc/default/grub and comment out the GRUB_HIDDEN lines, then remake grub config, you'll get the menu
[08:20] <ax562> not really
[08:20] <ax562> HD video?
[08:20] <ala-lala> Will installing Konversation install KDE?
[08:20] <cfhowlett> ax562, yes really.  opinion is not tech support nor is it something solveable here.
[08:20] <bazhang> ax562, take the chit chat elsewhere please
[08:20] <ala-lala> On Ubuntu, with Gnome Flashback.
[08:20] <bazhang> ala-lala, no
[08:20] <ala-lala> good
[08:21] <cfhowlett> ala-lala, run this command in terminal apt-cache show konversation
[08:21] <bazhang> ala-lala, some kdelibs however
[08:21] <ax562> ok
[08:21] <ax562> you guys are a hard bunch
[08:21] <bazhang> its a busy channel ax
[08:21] <ala-lala> I do already have K3B, so I probably already have some KDE libs.
[08:21] <abhishek__> hello everyone can anyone help ! I want to setup ldap authentication server for 5 lac users.please help me on storage calcultions
[08:21] <bazhang> ala-lala, thats fine then
[08:21] <cfhowlett> !server | abhishek__, might be better?
[08:22] <ax562> bazhang: lol.  people intimidate in a busy way though.
[08:22] <DoverMo> ax562, you are also dumb. linux can certainly handle HD/higher res and high fps
[08:22] <cfhowlett> DoverMo, please.  no insults.
[08:22] <ala-lala> !server | abhishek__
[08:22] <DoverMo> ax562, and linux isn't a single entity
[08:22] <ax562> DoverMo: I'm not dumb.
[08:22] <bazhang> ax562, theres a chat channel for a reason, and we have asked you politely many times to keep them seperate
[08:22] <abhishek__> thank u ubottu :)
[08:23] <ax562> bazhang: I'm posting asked.
[08:23] <ala-lala> !no server is <reply> Ubuntu Server Edition is a release of Ubuntu designed especially for server environments, including a server specific !kernel and no !GUI. The install CD contains many server applications. Current !LTS version is !Trusty (Trusty Tahr 14.04.1) - More info: http://www.ubuntu.com/products/whatisubuntu/serveredition - Guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/12.04/serverguide/C/ -...
[08:23] <ala-lala> ...Support in #ubuntu-server
[08:24] <cfhowlett> ala-lala, ??? you had a server question.  ask in #ubuntu-server
[08:24] <ax562> I tried to open file. it force closed.\
[08:24] <ala-lala> No I didn't
[08:24] <bazhang> that was abhishek cfhowlett
[08:24] <cfhowlett> bazhang, doh!  darn shortcut completion!
[08:25] <ala-lala> And did my message to ubottu not work because of the length?
[08:25] <bazhang> heh
[08:25] <cfhowlett> ala-lala, sorry for confusion.
[08:25] <bazhang> ala-lala, its ok
[08:25] <ax562> lol
[08:25] <bazhang> ala-lala, in future, use /msg
[08:25] <ala-lala> oh
[08:25] <ala-lala> right
[08:25] <ax562> super lol
[08:25] <DoverMo> ax562, one of the first things you should do in an ubuntu distro, is install all of the media codecs you can. now.. that's a problem for most because they assume everything you ever need is installed by default : P
[08:26] <kopd> leave
[08:26] <ax562> DoverMo: did that.
[08:27] <ax562> kopd: what?
[08:27] <DoverMo> ax562, i doubt it. secondly. you should choose the correct drivers for your gpu. people also can get that wrong, if they have legacy cards for instance
[08:27] <kopd> sorry, error
[08:27] <ax562> DoverMo: I was on 12.04lts 64 with little hiccups.
[08:28] <ax562> DoverMo: should your os ask you everytime to choose video drivers?  EVERY TIME?
[08:29] <DoverMo> ax562, ubuntu 14, does not "ask" you ever to choose a driver.
[08:29] <Krone1232> it shouldnt
[08:29] <ax562> LOL
[08:29] <ax562> DoverMo. please
[08:29] <OerHeks> ax562, stop trolling please, keep this channel free for support.
[08:30] <ax562> no one is trolling
[08:30] <cfhowlett> ax562, it will do exactly that if you set software & updates to query Additional Drivers.
[08:30] <ax562> a lot of wierd people thinking people troll when looking for help
[08:30] <DoverMo> ax562, if you "failed" to install the driver for your gpu, the little driver pop up will show up
[08:30] <cfhowlett> ax562, drop the LOL's, stay on topic, drop the insults.  Trolling is obvious.
[08:30] <daftykins> it's your poor approach to asking questions that does it, ax562
[08:31] <DoverMo> ax562, it means, that you didn't install the driver!
[08:31] <ax562> ok.  so vlc is working
[08:31] <amitprakash> Hi, while booting my ubuntu container, I am facing http://bpaste.net/show/581384/
[08:31] <amitprakash> How do I resolve this issue?
[08:31] <Symian> #ubuntu has a 50 strike rule
[08:31] <Krone1232> ax 562 which graphic card do you have?
[08:32] <ax562> you "ubuntu" guys are banbarding me.  Is this what you do with people looking for answers?
[08:32] <gr33n7007h> ax562, it's probably when you say "<ax562> why does ubuntu suck :)"
[08:32] <DoverMo> ax562, I highly doubt ubuntu would have a 'deep freeze' feature, pertaining to gpu drivers
[08:32] <ax562> It was a joke
[08:32] <BuJitsuBrown> i am have what i think is som problems with apt-get update im getting 404's any ideas b/c idk what i am lokking at here http://pastebin.com/YikE8Ex3
[08:32] <cfhowlett> ax562, told you before - save your jokes for your day job.
[08:33] <Krone1232> Anyone have any issues with keyboard language?
[08:33] <cfhowlett> amitprakash, "container"?  I'm not familiar with that term: hosted server or something else?
[08:33] <bazhang> lets get back to ubuntu support please
[08:33] <cfhowlett> Krone1232, yes SOMEONE is.  give your details.
[08:34] <cfhowlett> BuJitsuBrown, what is the output of terminal:   cat /etc/issue
[08:34] <bekks> Krone1232: Sounds like you do. Do you want to ask your actual question?
[08:34] <zhang_> ?
[08:34] <Krone1232> sometimes when i log in, language is set to EN
[08:34] <cfhowlett> !cn |zhang_,
[08:34] <OerHeks> BuJitsuBrown, this ubuntu-audio-dev ppa  has no Trusty candidates > https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-audio-dev/+archive/ubuntu/ppa
[08:34] <BuJitsuBrown> @cfhowlett
[08:34] <Krone1232> it doesnt stay on my default language settings
[08:35] <amitprakash> cfhowlett, debootstrapped container
[08:35] <BuJitsuBrown> idk know how to due a print out from termin direct to pastebin
[08:35] <amitprakash> lxc, systemd-nspawn, docket etc etc
[08:35] <Krone1232> so i have to manually change keyboard language every time
[08:35] <cfhowlett> !paste | amitprakash,
[08:35] <amitprakash> its virtualization w/o h/w virtualization
[08:35] <Symian> BuJitsuBrown: you can use the `script` command to initiate a logging session for your command line history
[08:35] <amitprakash> cfhowlett, huh ?
[08:35] <cfhowlett> amitprakash, ah!  Yes!  I *almost* understand that!
[08:35] <cfhowlett> amitprakash, right.
[08:36] <cfhowlett> !paste | BuJitsuBrown, to paste use
[08:36] <Symian> script /tmp/mysession, then do what you want recorded, then type exit. You can copy+paste from /tmp/mysession after.
[08:37] <cfhowlett> Krone1232, global language settings?
[08:37] <Krone1232> SI
[08:37] <Krone1232> it is set
[08:37] <BuJitsuBrown> ok thank you i will repost my question after i process that last bit of  info
[08:38] <Krone1232> the language indicator also says SI, but it is set to EN
[08:38] <amitprakash> Hi, while booting my ubuntu container, I am facing http://bpaste.net/show/581384/ ... how do I resolve this issue?
[08:39] <elmaestro> how do i install printer drivers from CD when it wont autolaunch?
[08:39] <cfhowlett> elmaestro, hp CD?
[08:40] <elmaestro> hp deskjet 1050
[08:40] <ala-lala> !server | ala-lala
[08:41] <cfhowlett> elmaestro, shouldn't need the CD for that ... have your tried "add printer" WITHOUT the CD?
[08:41] <Beldar> elmaestro, Open the printer app and use it's drivers, I have that printer.
[08:41] <ala-lala> Yay learning to use ubottu
[08:41] <elmaestro> sorry, am a novice, how do i open printer app?
[08:41] <OerHeks>  HP is supported fine in linux
[08:42] <Beldar> elmaestro, Type printers in the dash like you would for any app.
[08:45] <elmaestro> beldar, works just fine, thanks
[08:50] <kelvinella> Hello, can a laptop crashes the wireless router?
[08:50] <cfhowlett> kelvinella, seriously doubt it ...
[08:50] <gr33n7007h> kelvinella, depends what you do to it?
[08:51] <kelvinella> a windows laptop wirelessly connect to a NAS server.  trying to copy more than 1 GB of file from laptop to NAS, then connection crashes
[08:51] <kelvinella> then all other 7 laptops in the room disconnect wirelessly
[08:52] <Ben64> if you have a terrible router its possible
[08:52] <BuJitsuBrown> i am have what i think is som problems with apt-get update im getting 404's any ideas b/c idk what i am lokking at here http://pastebin.com/YikE8Ex3
[08:52] <tirengarfio> sound does not work on ubuntu 14.04
[08:53] <cfhowlett> BuJitsuBrown, terminal command: cat /etc/issue              what does this return?
[08:53] <kelvinella> Ben64, its a crappy TP link
[08:53] <BuJitsuBrown> ok....
[08:53] <kelvinella> Ben64, except physically restarting the router, what else can I do?
[08:53] <BuJitsuBrown> http://paste.ubuntu.com/7996459/
[08:54] <kelvinella> I am in the office, the router is in my boss's room and he is in vacation for a few days
[08:54] <Ben64> kelvinella: get a new router?
[08:54] <cfhowlett> BuJitsuBrown, typo!   cat /etc/issue
[08:54] <BuJitsuBrown> oh sorry ok
[08:54] <kelvinella> the router still working with cat5 cable, because I can access the NAS server from internet
[08:54] <kelvinella> just the wireless part not working
[08:55] <ala-lalakonversa> I am ala-lala, I'm just trying Konversation.
[08:55] <cfhowlett> ala-lalakonversa, we see you
[08:55] <daftykins> that's lovely but this isn't your IRC client test channel
[08:55] <cfhowlett> !test | ala-lalakonversa,
[08:56] <ala-lalakonversa> I just wanted to tell you that I am ala-lala
[08:56] <daftykins> i could've gotten by without that information
[08:56] <BuJitsuBrown> @cfhowlett a better result i think http://paste.ubuntu.com/7996495/
[08:57] <cfhowlett> BuJitsuBrown, better. you've got the current ubuntu.  you're seeing 404/s.  mirrors sometimes go down for maintenance.  check your software update settings for the best server
[08:58] <joshi_linux> hey guys - I have a sort of home internet problem. At the moment my house can use wireless internet via two routers. One is a dual band router and one is older and thus not dual band. What can I do if I only want to use one router (the better one) but I enforce mac address filtering and I have already filled up all the spots on the dualband router?
[08:58] <joshi_linux>  Can I turn the other router or routers into a repeater to improve the wireless signal of the Single Wireless network that I want to create?
[08:58] <OerHeks> BuJitsuBrown, this ubuntu-audio-dev ppa  has no Trusty candidates > https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-audio-dev/+archive/ubuntu/ppa
[08:58] <PoolShark_> hi all.. anyone know how to get the ATI drivers for the Kabini CPUs to work? The Xorg driver consumes about half the CPU :-/
[09:00] <marcos__> Hello
[09:00] <horrow> Hey
[09:00] <marcos__> How to install mscorefonts in ubuntu 14.04
[09:00] <marcos__> ?
[09:01] <cfhowlett> marcos__, sudo apt-get install ubuntu-restricted-extras              observe the installer dialog
[09:01] <OerHeks> mscorefonts is part of restricted extras
[09:01] <horrow> clear
[09:01] <marcos__> I did this, but... don t work
[09:02] <cfhowlett> marcos__, do it again = paste the output
[09:02] <cfhowlett> !paste | marcos__
[09:02] <marcos__> One moment
[09:02] <joshi_linux> anyone know how to deal with letting more than 16 people on the one wireless network when doing mac address filtering? I've filled up my list of available users (16)? but want more - can I setup a repeater?
[09:02] <horrow> I would like to know how to change lighDM resolution ? 14.04 x64?
[09:03] <bazhang> joshi_linux, try ##networking
[09:03] <joshi_linux> thanks
[09:03] <joshi_linux> what is the two ## in the channel name, I thought channels started with only one hash #?
[09:03] <ala-lala> ^ same question
[09:04] <cfhowlett> joshi_linux, not always.   many have ##
[09:04] <cfhowlett> ##linux        ##windows
[09:04] <joshi_linux> but why do they have ##?
[09:04] <Krone1232> was wondering that also
[09:04] <ala-lala> But why are there two #'s instead of one?
[09:04] <BuJitsuBrown> @cfhowlett  its these lines that worry me the most paste.ubuntu.com/7996522/ not to mention the fact that one of my update avenues is telling me to check my internet conection http://imgur.com/FXSUFH6
[09:04] <bazhang> topical and official
[09:04] <bazhang> two ## for the former
[09:05] <joshi_linux> ok, but what's the difference between topical and official channels?
[09:05] <cfhowlett> BuJitsuBrown, ppa!
[09:05] <marcos__> The dialog box says: "ubuntu-restricted-extras ya está en su versión más reciente" (ubuntu-restricted-extras are in the latest version)
[09:05] <cfhowlett> !ppa
[09:05] <bazhang> this is more appropriate for #freenode , however
[09:05] <cfhowlett> marcos__, ... in
[09:05] <cfhowlett> English?
[09:05] <marcos__> But when I open LibreOffice dont appear
[09:06] <ala-lala> !ppa | BuJitsuBrown
[09:06] <cfhowlett> BuJitsuBrown, if you recently upgraded, ppa's are NOT enabled/upgrade by default.
[09:07] <BuJitsuBrown> oh ok thank you
[09:07] <marcos__> Thanks for your help
[09:07] <marcos__> bye
[09:08] <horrow> nobody knows howto change lightDM resolotion on login screen?
[09:08] <cfhowlett> horrow, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LightDM
[09:09] <horrow> cfhowlett, allready tried this but doesnt work
[09:09] <horrow> i have missing files
[09:09] <cfhowlett> horrow, "reporting problems" is on the bottom of that *official support* page
[09:09] <horrow> ok thanks
[09:09] <horrow> :)
[09:09] <almostevery> hello everyone, in 14.04., once you enter your keyring password at the beginning, thekeyring program forever keeps the keyring unlockable just by right-clicking 'unlock', without having to enter keyring password ever again across restarts. moreover, this holds for even the hardware passwords. when you remove and reconnect a hardware, you dont need to enter password, can just decrypt it just by selecting 'unlock'. how has it been that this was designed s
[09:09] <almostevery> o?
[09:10] <tirengarfio> I can not hear any sound on ubuntu 14.04 Im using usb speakers
[09:10] <cfhowlett> tirengarfio, unplug the speakers.  Hear sound?
[09:11] <tirengarfio> cfhowlett, Im not on a laptop, im on a desktop computer
[09:11] <cfhowlett> tirengarfio, try headphones
[09:11] <tirengarfio> that's true, one moment
[09:12] <utente_> ciao
[09:12] <tirengarfio> yes, theres is sound
[09:12] <utente_> films
[09:12] <cfhowlett> utente_, no.
[09:12] <tirengarfio> even when both are plugged, but just in the headphones
[09:13] <cfhowlett> tirengarfio, sure those speakers work?  speakers have power?
[09:14] <elmaestro> is there a keyboard shortcut for switching between workspaces
[09:15] <gr33n7007h> ctrl + alt + arrowkey
[09:15] <gr33n7007h> ^^ elmaestro
[09:15] <lisak> hey, does anybody know how to open midnight commander in maximized window ?
[09:15] <tirengarfio> cfhowlett, yes, the speakers work in another computer
[09:15] <tirengarfio> even using ubuntu
[09:15] <lisak> --window --maximize       parameters don't work as in gnome-terminal case
[09:16] <tirengarfio> on ubuntu 12.04
[09:16] <cfhowlett> tirengarfio, grr.  there's a configuration in ubuntu - somewhere _ that needs your attention.  Sorry, but IDK exactly where to go ...
[09:19] <lisak> got it, gnome-terminal  --window --maximize -e mc
[09:21] <elmaestro> thanks, how about shortcut for the dash on launcher?
[09:21] <cynicallemon> tirengarfio, have you looked at this http://www.unixmen.com/2012003-howto-resolve-nosound-problem-on-ubuntu/
[09:26] <elmaestro> how about moving applications between workspaces? keyboard shortcuts
[09:27] <almostevery> hello everyone, in 14.04., once you enter your keyring password at the beginning, thekeyring program forever keeps the keyring unlockable just by right-clicking 'unlock', without having to enter keyring password ever again across restarts. moreover, this holds for even the hardware passwords. when you remove and reconnect a hardware, you dont need to enter password, can just decrypt it just by selecting 'unlock'. how has it been that this was designed s
[09:27] <almostevery> o?
[09:27] <cfhowlett> almostevery, question about design?  no developers in this channel.
[09:28] <almostevery> cfhowlett, obviously I am more interested in knowing if I can prevent that in the design view behind it
[09:29] <tim__> Hy all
[09:29] <almostevery> than in the design view behind it*
[09:29] <cfhowlett> almostevery, but that's not what you asked ... :)
[09:29] <cfhowlett> not exactly obvious
[09:29] <almostevery> cfhowlett, ok, I am asking it now, then :)
[09:30] <lisak> pls which repo does contain raring ? it disappeared from here http://cz.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/
[09:30] <cfhowlett> !raring
[09:31] <cfhowlett> !eolupgrade | lisak, note: raring is end of life = no more support.
[09:31] <tim__> i have some question over virtual box
[09:31] <tim__> need help with start up
[09:32] <tim__> also need link to copy - paste page - to show problem
[09:32] <cfhowlett> !paste | tim__
[09:32] <lisak> cfhowlett, well I have such a idiotic motherboard that Raring was the last release it was working on
[09:32] <cfhowlett> almostevery, looking for ubuntu + 14.04 + keyring
[09:33] <cfhowlett> lisak, old.releases.ubuntu.com
[09:33] <lisak> thansk
[09:33] <elmaestro> how do i pull up qbittorrent that seems to be running in the background?
[09:33] <almostevery> cfhowlett, thank you, waiting :)
[09:34] <cfhowlett> elmaestro, ps -x | grep qbittorrent
[09:35] <daftykins> lisak: you understand raring is EOL and thus dead, yes?
[09:35] <elmaestro> bad ps syntax
[09:36] <tim__> http://imgur.com/uFTvSzr this is my problem
[09:37] <tim__> i think..
[09:37] <cfhowlett> elmaestro, ps -x is the list programs command        | grep qbitttorent filters for qbittorent
[09:38] <tim__> any idea's?
[09:39] <daftykins> tim__: looks like the kernel module isn't loaded for your running kernel
[09:40] <bekks> Thats what the message says.
[09:40] <bekks> And it tells you how to solve it, too :)
[09:40] <daftykins> it's nice like that.
[09:40] <tim__> i was diasabling auto start.. :-S
[09:41] <cfhowlett> tim__, d e r p
[09:41] <tim__> i was having installed as on autoboot
[09:41] <tim__> was distracting
[09:41] <tim__> what means derp?
[09:41] <daftykins> i have no idea what you're saying
[09:41] <cfhowlett> tim__, nvm
[09:42] <daftykins> cfhowlett: thats not very nice
[09:42]  * cfhowlett slaps himself with the !behelpful factoid
[09:42] <tim__> come guy's.. not all have IQ for computer's
[09:43] <cfhowlett> tim__, did you do the fix that the error message gave you?
[09:43] <daftykins> tim__: your english doesn't make much sense
[09:44] <elmaestro> still no luck pulling qbittorrent from background to front so i can see whats downloading...
[09:44] <tim__> no, didn't have solid internet link yet
[09:44] <tim__> will try now
[09:44] <tim__> am..
[09:45] <tim__> yes.. have problem with that.. don't know what to do
[09:45] <tim__> :-S
[09:45] <bekks> tim__: The message tells you to run a specific command.
[09:46] <tim__> in console, right?
[09:46] <xpand> Hi, everyone.. I downloaded Verdana from here
[09:46] <xpand> http://www.fontpalace.com/font-download/Verdana/
[09:46] <xpand> and installed it through the font viewer
[09:46] <xpand> I'm not satisfied how it looks when "bold"
[09:47] <xpand> and I want to remove it, but I can't seem to find where it is
[09:47] <xpand> I looked up everything in /usr/share/fonts
[09:47] <cfhowlett> xpand, you installed through font viewer?  so uninstall with ... fontviewer?
[09:48] <xpand> cfhowlett: It doesn't have uninstall... I am currently viewing the font and I have a grayed-out button, sayin "Installed"
[09:48] <xpand> Btw, I have installed font manager, too, but the font isn't there
[09:48] <cfhowlett> xpand, rather than worry about uninstall, you could just --- use a different font.
[09:49] <geirha> xpand: probably somewhere under ~/.local/share
[09:49] <xpand> I am a web developer and the site that the designer made, has Verdana font
[09:49] <xpand> I need to see it like it is in Windows
[09:49] <xpand> okay, let me check
[09:50] <xpand> oh, thank god
[09:50] <xpand> geirha: you had it right, bro ;)
[09:50] <xpand> xpand@cvetomir:~/.local/share/fonts$ pwd
[09:50] <xpand> /home/xpand/.local/share/fonts
[09:50] <xpand> -rw-rw-r-- 1 xpand xpand 129393 Aug  9 12:17 Verdana.ttf
[09:50] <xpand> Thanks for the help, geirha
[09:51] <xpand> I owe you a beer and nachos :D
[09:51] <cfhowlett> !beer
[09:51] <tim__> am.. so how to execute that comand?
[09:51] <ovrflw0x> which is the latest kernel in ubuntu atm?
[09:51] <geirha> Nice, I'll take the beer, but you can keep the nachos ;P
[09:51] <daftykins> tim__: type it.
[09:52] <xpand> okay :P
[09:52] <tim__> terminal.. sudo /etc/init.d/vboxdrv setup.. ? says no command
[09:52] <xpand> by the way.. while on the topic, why TT fonts look strange
[09:52] <xpand> I tried the mscore package as well
[09:52] <cynicallemon> ovrflw0x, the one you should have if youve been doing updates
[09:52] <ovrflw0x> which is the latest kernel version in ubuntu atm?
[09:52] <cfhowlett> xpand, graphics settings
[09:52] <ovrflw0x> cynicallemon, ?
[09:52] <xpand> Verdana Bold seems very strange
[09:53] <xpand> ovrflw0x: what tool do you suggest to tweak my graphics
[09:53] <ovrflw0x> arch linux has 3.15.8
[09:53] <xpand> so I can see them as they are meant to be
[09:53] <xpand> (the fonts)
[09:53] <ovrflw0x> cynicallemon, have you updated ubuntu?
[09:55] <cynicallemon> my server has 3.13.0-32-generic
[09:55] <cynicallemon> arch will always be more current
[09:55] <daftykins> ovrflw0x: 3.13
[09:56] <cynicallemon> more current but more prone to breakage too
[09:56] <ovrflw0x> why don't you use arch cynicallemon ?
[09:57] <tim__> daftykins, http://imgur.com/D8ekK5v
[09:57] <cynicallemon> ovrflw0x, i did for quite a while
[09:57] <ovrflw0x> then what happened?
[09:57] <cynicallemon> ovrflw0x, they lost the KISS plot
[09:57] <cfhowlett> ovrflw0x, cynicallemon offtopic or PM please
[09:58] <cfhowlett> tim__, run as root = sudo CommandGoesHere
[10:00] <tim__> as root... sudo ?
[10:00] <cfhowlett> !root | tim__
[10:02] <tim__> ok... completly lost.. damn.. this is not for blond people
[10:02] <cfhowlett> tim__, run the command but precede it with "sudo"   no quotemarks
[10:03] <iceroot_> is it safe to use DSA keys instead of RSA keys? or is DSA not safe anymore?
[10:03] <tim__> i have try to do so.. "sudo /etc/init-d/vboxdrv setup" nothing happend..
[10:04] <cfhowlett> tim__, paste
[10:04] <tim__> pass.. and reply.. no command
[10:04] <cynicallemon> tim__, you trying to setup virtualbox?
[10:04] <tim__> yap
[10:04] <tim__> have some startup problem's..
[10:04] <tim__> had..
[10:05] <tim__> was disabling auto boot
[10:05] <tim__> now can't start it up
[10:05] <iceroot_> tim__: sudo /etc/init.d/ instead of /etc/init-d/ ? just a typo here?
[10:05] <cfhowlett> !paste | tim__, show us.  use your paste.  (2nd request)
[10:06] <tim__> http://imgur.com/D8ekK5v
[10:06] <tim__> is it the right one?
[10:07] <iceroot_> tim__: the error message says all
[10:07] <iceroot_> tim__: no such file or directory
[10:07] <iceroot_> tim__: so your command is wrong
[10:07] <cfhowlett> tim__, did you install DKMS?
[10:08] <tim__> ubuntu software center says installed
[10:08] <tim__> reinstall?
[10:08] <daftykins> tim__: run one of the following in the answer here - http://askubuntu.com/questions/53364/command-to-rebuild-all-dkms-modules-for-all-installed-kernels
[10:08] <iceroot_> tim__: virtualbox-dkms  you have that installed?
[10:08] <cfhowlett> tim__, terminal time.  sudo apt-get install dkms
[10:09] <cynicallemon> tim__, have you got the kernel headers installed?
[10:09] <iceroot_> tim__: sudo apt-get install linux-headers-`uname -r`
[10:09] <iceroot_> tim__: and sudo apt-get install virtualbox virtualbox-dkms
[10:10] <cfhowlett> ! too many cooks
[10:10] <tim__> it suppoest to be.. i was running xp on linux before
[10:10] <iceroot_> cfhowlett: your turn :)
[10:10] <cfhowlett> iceroot_, going to get a PBJ sammich
[10:11] <tim__> iceroot.. it hold the terminal saying >
[10:12] <tim__> after uname
[10:12] <tim__> ow... uname need's to be renamed?
[10:13] <iceroot_> tim__: no, just copy paste it
[10:13] <tim__> i did
[10:13] <iceroot_> tim__: you messed up the ` stuff
[10:13] <tim__> >
[10:14] <tim__> what is with the ' ?
[10:14] <iceroot_> sudo apt-get install linux-headers-`uname -r`
[10:14] <iceroot_> [sudo] password for michael:
[10:14] <iceroot_> Paketlisten werden gelesen... Fertig
[10:14] <iceroot_> tim__: it says `execute this`
[10:14] <iceroot_> tim__: everything between these ` will be handled as a command
[10:15] <tim__> does any1 have a team viewer?
[10:15] <tim__> :-S
[10:15] <tim__> aha
[10:15] <iceroot_> sudo apt-get install linux-headers-`uname -r` virtualbox virtualbox-dkms     <--- copy paste thise line until dkms
[10:16] <iceroot_> tim__: ^
[10:16] <iceroot_> tim__: and then virtualbox wiöll configure itself and when you get a kernel update or something similar it will auto config itself
[10:18] <tim__> am.. was there something removed?
[10:18] <cfhowlett> tim__, prior dkms kernel may be removed
[10:19] <iceroot_> tim__: we just think that your "/etc/init.d/vboxdrv" is wrong because that is something virtualbox will do by itself if installed correctly
[10:19] <tim__> seem's like a good half of my computer can't be located...
[10:19] <tim__> :-)
[10:19] <tim__> aa
[10:19] <tim__> ok
[10:19] <tim__> tnx
[10:19] <almostevery> cfhowlett, do you still remember me?
[10:19] <almostevery> :)
[10:20] <tim__> do i need to reboot now?
[10:20] <cynicallemon> yes would help
[10:20] <almostevery> or shall I repost the question, if you're busy?
[10:20] <cfhowlett> almostevery, repost
[10:21] <almostevery> hello everyone, in 14.04., once you enter your keyring password at the beginning, thekeyring program forever keeps the keyring unlockable just by right-clicking 'unlock', without having to enter keyring password ever again across restarts. moreover, this holds for even the hardware passwords. when you remove and reconnect a hardware, you dont need to enter password, can just decrypt it just by selecting 'unlock'. how can I change this default?
[10:21] <tim__> not working yet.. :-S
[10:21] <cfhowlett> tim__, you might need to restart vbox or ubuntu.  in fact, do so
[10:22] <tim__> will reboot.. hope i get back
[10:22] <tim__> tnx for now
[10:22] <cynicallemon> cfhowlett, just told him to do that
[10:29] <tim__> hy, i am back and so are my troubles
[10:29] <tim__> :-S
[10:31] <cynicallemon> tim__, try a "sudo dpkg-reconfigure virtualbox" from a terminal window
[10:36] <noxon_> Hi
[10:36] <ovrflw0x> cynicallemon, is it easy to upgrade to newer version of ubuntu, when it arrives? or one has to wipe out previous ubuntu and then install new ubuntu?
[10:36] <noxon_> 14.10 ?
[10:36] <ovrflw0x> for stability
[10:37] <ovrflw0x> hey noxon_
[10:37] <noxon_> hi
[10:37] <iceroot_> ovrflw0x: if not needed you should not upgrade, 14.04 has 5 years of support, 14.10 only 9?? months
[10:38] <cynicallemon> ovrflw0x, depends what version of ubuntu you are upgrading from
[10:38] <ovrflw0x> 14.04 to 14.10
[10:39] <iceroot_> ovrflw0x: why you would need 14.10 (when it is stable)?
[10:39] <ovrflw0x> iceroot_, for new features
[10:40] <iceroot_> ovrflw0x: then make a backup and just upgrade (after 14.10 is stable)
[10:40] <iceroot_> ovrflw0x: no need to reinstall
[10:40] <Ben64> it really is best to stay on the LTS versions though. you can get all the new kernels still
[10:41] <iceroot_> ovrflw0x: i share the opinion of Ben64
[10:41] <ovrflw0x> Ben64, but i won't get all the new features  added to desktop environmnet
[10:41] <ovrflw0x> ment
[10:41] <Ben64> what "new features"
[10:41] <ovrflw0x> new features added for 'convenience"
[10:41] <iceroot_> ovrflw0x: for me its more important to have a stable and tested system instead of any (crazy) ubuntu ideas for non-lts releases which are not tested before
[10:42] <cynicallemon> ovrflw0x, same but if you want the freshness of an arch linux system then debian sid would be your nearest equivalent to be honest
[10:43] <ovrflw0x> okay
[10:43] <iceroot_> ovrflw0x: if you are not facing any issues you should "never touch a running system"
[10:43] <iceroot_> of course it should be still supported with sec-updates
[10:43] <cynicallemon> ovrflw0x, ubuntu is more like a comfy chair than a racing car seat
[10:44] <iceroot_> 14.10 will have mir? or is that not a topic anymore for ubuntu?
[10:45] <ovrflw0x> iceroot_, what is mir
[10:45] <iceroot_> ovrflw0x: x-server replacement
[10:45] <trijntje> iceroot_: I don't think so, but you can enable it if you want to try it out
[10:46] <daftykins> #ubuntu+1 would likely be the place for discussion on the next version
[10:46] <trijntje> its the same for 14.04 I think
[10:46] <iceroot_> ovrflw0x: i guess since 2 years it was a big topic and because of that i removed nearly all ubuntu installations because of this "canocial own way"
[10:46] <iceroot_> daftykins: i am not sure if it is ubuntu+1 or +2 or +10 :)
[10:46] <cynicallemon> mir is the next upstart
[10:47] <iceroot_> cynicallemon: no
[10:47] <iceroot_> cynicallemon: ah ok, got it wrong
[10:47] <cynicallemon> :)
[10:47] <iceroot_> upstart, mir, amazon-shopping-lense.... all this crazy stuff... but ok i guess that is offtopic for the support channel
[10:48] <interweb> How do I can encrypt and lock an external hard drive on Windows and Ubuntu to use it on both ?
[10:51] <iceroot_> interweb: after the end of truecrypt i am not sure if there is still something for both systems
[10:51] <iceroot_> interweb: The reference implementation for LUKS operates on Linux and is based on an enhanced version of cryptsetup, using dm-crypt as the disk encryption backend. Under Microsoft Windows, LUKS-encrypted disks can be used with FreeOTFE.
[10:52] <Symian> Truecrypt 7.1a is still a safe bet
[10:52] <xpand> I installed the msttcorefonts again.. Verdana seems okay, but now Sans-Serif is displayed as Arial
[10:52] <xpand> Why is this happening?
[10:52] <iceroot_> Symian: its not supported anymore and will not get fixes
[10:52] <interweb> Why did they ended Truecrypt ? Was that because of some special but or encrypting problem in it
[10:52] <interweb> ?
[10:52] <iceroot_> Symian: so truecrypt is not an option anymore, its end of support
[10:53] <iceroot_> interweb: the developer says they are not interested anymore and its not a free licence
[10:53] <iceroot_> interweb: so you can not fork it
[10:53] <iceroot_> interweb: but i guess its some US stuff again
[10:53] <interweb> iceroot_, So how do I can trust it ?
[10:53] <iceroot_> interweb: as i said, you can not trust it anymore
[10:54] <iceroot_> On 28 May 2014, the TrueCrypt website announced that the project was no longer maintained and recommended users to find alternate solutions
[10:54] <Symian> There's actually a very recent / still active audit on that version of true crypt saying they haven't found it's broken yet. But yeah, it's end of support. The alternatives aren't great either, so that's why I suggested TrueCrypt's last audited version.
[10:54] <cfhowlett> interweb, do not use it.  very clearly stated by truecrypt
[10:54] <iceroot_> Symian: dont use it, its not supported anymore
[10:55] <iceroot_> Symian: you are also not suggesting windows xp anymore, because its out of support, does not matter if the last relese of xp was good or bad, no support, no sec updates, no checks
[10:55] <Symian> I'm just wondering that after that, what is the alternative?
[10:55] <iceroot_> Symian: of if the us finds some security issues inside it noone will fix it
[10:56] <iceroot_> Symian: LUKS on linux for example
[10:56] <iceroot_> Symian: truecrypt was (imo) never a big thing on linux, just on windows
[10:56] <Symian> All right iceroot_, I'll check LUKS out.
[10:57] <iceroot_> Symian: LUKS is the ubuntu default when you install a new system and you are asked for encription
[10:57] <xpand> anyone to help me with fonts?
[10:58] <xpand> sans-serif is different since I have installed msttcorefonts
[10:58] <cfhowlett> xpand, your font library may be scrambled.  I THINK there's a "rebuild library" option in the font manager
[10:59] <xpand> cfhowlett: I can't see such an option
[10:59] <cynicallemon> xpand, fc-cache -fv
[11:00] <xpand> cynicallemon: I've rebuilt the cache, but it's the same
[11:01] <xpand> I've tried fc-match to see what it prints out
[11:01] <xpand> xpand@cvetomir:/$ fc-match sans-serif
[11:01] <xpand> DejaVuSans.ttf: "DejaVu Sans" "Book"
[11:02] <xpand> However, in the browser, it's different
[11:02] <xpand> I'm not an expert in knowing fonts, but it's not the same that it used to be
[11:02] <cynicallemon> fonts are a grey area for me
[11:03] <xpand> cynicallemon: thanks anyway, bro
[11:04] <xpand> I'll try and do something about it
[11:04] <xpand> It's those MS fonts for sure
[11:04] <xpand> because I tried removing them.. and it was okay
[11:04] <nonuby> laptop with freshly purchased 60gd kingston sdd installed (nothing on), if I install ubuntu 14.04 from USB stick and stick to standard options will the installer select optimal block size and settings  automagically?
[11:05] <cynicallemon> xpand, damn MS :)
[11:07] <stanklord> hello
[11:07] <xpand> cynicallemon: yup.. last day at work I was struggling with making filters work on IE for 2 hours.. and all of that, just to find out that they have stopped support on IE filters :D However, the tutorials on how to make CSS filters work are still on MSDN
[11:08] <xpand> how is that not stupid.. morons! MS can suck my balls :)
[11:09] <xpand> Ubuntu - One OS to rule them all!
[11:09] <nonuby> filters too are expensive anyway for the sake of visual parity
[11:09] <xpand> nonuby: yeah, but why do they have to stop something that clearly worked?
[11:09] <daftykins> this is the wrong place for the above discussion.
[11:10] <daftykins> take it to #ubuntu-offtopic please
[11:10] <stanklord> hi
[11:10] <stanklord> i am the stanklord
[11:10] <xpand> daftykins: yes, sir
[11:14] <joshi_linux> is it possible for ubuntu or any linux distribution to get an integrated notifcations system like mac osx has by installing some application.
[11:14] <stanklord> why doesnt anyone wish to converse with the stanklord?
[11:15] <joshi_linux> ill converse with you
[11:15] <stanklord> no
[11:15] <joshi_linux> can you help me
[11:15] <asuslaptop> where can I read about the non-free stuff on the Ubuntu that comes by default ?
[11:16] <joshi_linux> can anyone help me?
[11:16] <stanklord> i dont know what you're asking
[11:16] <stanklord> i am the stanklord
[11:16] <Abhijit> joshi_linux, ubuntu unity has notifications.
[11:17] <joshi_linux> and do other distributions have the ability to install some program to get integrated notifcations?
[11:17] <joshi_linux> Abhijit: Does ubuntu have file tagging like the mac too?
[11:17] <Abhijit> i dont know what is file tagging like mac.
[11:17] <streulma> are there people here using ubuntu on a Macbook Pro ?
[11:18] <streulma> I have problems with the broadcom touchpad
[11:19] <joshi_linux> Integrated notifications and tagging is all I need - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qv7FH9LDkyw
[11:20] <joshi_linux> Abhijit: file tagging is like that lijnk ^'
[11:21] <Abhijit> joshi_linux, cant watch it now. just try kde. thats the most advanced featured riched DE for linux as of now.
[11:22] <Abhijit> joshi_linux, ask in #kde how to do file tagging they might help
[11:22] <joshi_linux> thanks
[11:26] <samuraiRM> hello
[11:27] <daftykins> hi
[11:29] <samuraiRM> sorry in my desk appeared the folder "torO"
[11:29] <daftykins> it's not red is it?
[11:29] <samuraiRM> is a folder created by ktorrent
[11:32] <daftykins> samuraiRM: sooo are you here to ask a question?
[11:32] <cfhowlett> !details| samuraiRM,
[11:35] <linuxthefish> hi, how can i generate a bootable windows usb from ubuntu?
[11:35] <linuxthefish> winusb and unetbootin isn't working :(
[11:35] <samuraiRM> link for image?
[11:35] <linuxthefish> i have ISO and DVD, i've even tried with ISO's from windows site
[11:37] <royalaxe> linuxthefish: i typed "bootable ubuntu installer on usb stick" in google, grabbed the latest distro from somewhere and made the stick bootable with whatever program was suggested
[11:37] <daftykins> linuxthefish: if you formatted the drive as FAT, you *might* be able to 'dd' the ISO onto the drive
[11:37] <daftykins> royalaxe: you didn't read the question carefully enough.
[11:37] <linuxthefish> cheers daftykins, i'll give that a try - it works great with ubuntu
[11:37] <linuxthefish> ubuntu iso*
[11:38] <royalaxe> i can read minds
[11:38] <royalaxe> :)
[11:39] <linuxthefish> whoops, i nearly dd of'd onto sda xD
[11:40] <samuraiRM> ktorrent create a folder Toro?
[11:42] <littlebit> hi someone here?
[11:42] <nvdpl> Nope.
[11:42] <nvdpl> ;-)
[11:47] <stanklord> is gnome3 any fun to use?
[11:47] <compdoc> I only used it a week or so, and it looks very nice.
[11:48] <compdoc> I havent learned all the tricks, tho
[11:48] <Kira9204> linuxthefish: is the usb stick formatted as NTFS?
[11:48] <Kira9204> if not, there is your problem
[11:48] <linuxthefish> oh
[11:48] <stanklord> it looks very flashy
[11:48] <daftykins> Kira9204: that's completely false
[11:49] <linuxthefish> i will try DD'ing it to the usb stick first
[11:49] <cfhowlett> stanklord, it's free to install.  test for yourself.
[11:49] <daftykins> linuxthefish: make sure it's FAT32, the above is totally false.
[11:49] <linuxthefish> oh
[11:49] <Kira9204> daftykins: is it tho? Windows 7 and 8 works only on ntfs for me
[11:49] <linuxthefish> i think it was just plain FAT as formatted by the "disks" utility
[11:49] <Kira9204> whike fat does not boot at all
[11:49] <daftykins> Kira9204: total rubbish i'm afraid
[11:50] <Kira9204> well, it works for me so its worth a shot
[12:00] <Quezza> hey guys, i tried to recover my encrypted home directory with ecryptfs-recover-private and the "mount passphrase" But somehow the data in /tmp/ecryptfs.xxx is still encrypted but ecryptfs-recover-private said: "SUCCESS! Privat data mounted" - help pls
[12:02] <streulma> sudo rm -rf --no-preserve-root /mnt/hetznerbackup /
[12:02] <streulma> lol :)
[12:03] <streulma> someone did !
[12:11] <cfhowlett> !info ecryptfs
[12:11] <dragos> how to customise ubuntu live cd
[12:14] <dragos> how to customise ubuntu live cd
[12:14] <dragos> dolphin emulator not exist in trusty
[12:14] <IdleOne> !remaster
[12:15] <cynicallemon> dragos: although no longer developed, remastersys still works i hear
[12:15] <cfhowlett> cynicallemon, using unsupported software is not a good suggestion ...
[12:15] <dragos> how to customise ubuntu live cd
[12:16] <cfhowlett> dragos, read the @remaster link above!
[12:16] <cynicallemon> cfhowlett: your entitled to your opinion
[12:16] <dragos> what link
[12:16] <cfhowlett> !remaster > dragos
[12:17] <streulma> !mac > streulma
[12:20] <dragos> how to customise ubuntu live cd
[12:20] <f00fSteR> use fdisk -unix98 -verbose
[12:21] <dragos> how to customise ubuntu live cd
[12:21] <cfhowlett> !remaster | dragos, READ THIS LINK!
[12:21] <cfhowlett> dragos, asked and answered about 4 times now ...
[12:21] <dragos> now what
[12:21] <f00fSteR> http://customizeubuntu.com/ubuntu-livecd
[12:22] <f00fSteR> just go there
[12:22] <dragos> thx
[12:22] <cfhowlett> dragos, go there.  read the link.  follow the instructions
[12:22]  * Abhijit just had dejavu 4 times
[12:22] <f00fSteR> Sonikku ?
[12:22] <f00fSteR> Dude ?
[12:22] <f00fSteR> Andjrew ?
[12:22] <dragos> f00fSteR
[12:22] <f00fSteR> dragos: yado?
[12:23] <dragos> thanks for the link
[12:24] <Abhijit> now say that 4 times.
[12:27] <f00fSteR> yc
[12:27] <f00fSteR> yc yc yc
[12:27] <f00fSteR> for the other three ;-)
[12:27] <dragos> thx
[12:27] <dragos> +i dragos
[12:29] <f00fSteR> yw*
[12:29] <f00fSteR> yw my newbie friend
[12:29] <f00fSteR> yw good teacher!
[12:30] <f00fSteR> yw f00f ?
[12:46] <asuslaptop> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/Firmware < This needs to be updated as it says non-free kernel is not installed by default which is not true. It is installed by default on Ubuntu in guise of linux-firmware which is free + non-free on ubuntu else devices like AMD HD radeon graphics won't work out of the box with Ubuntu ..
[12:47] <cinnamon> asd
[12:47] <enchilado> k
[12:57] <swenzel> Hello together, is there someone who can read this? http://www.alsa-project.org/db/?f=8f57f0b72d65046469b8b6ce8a57ff6fe0371769
[12:57] <swenzel> http://www.alsa-project.org/db/?f=8f57f0b72d65046469b8b6ce8a57ff6fe0371769
[12:57] <swenzel> I can't get no sound out of my speakers and don't know why :/
[12:57] <MisterXX> haloo
[12:58] <cfhowlett> swenzel, also support available from the alsa project
[13:00] <cfhowlett> !sound | swenzel
[13:09] <Guest25532> Hi there! I'm getting an error when trying to upgrade my 12.04 system, after typing apt-get -f install: E: Internal Error, No file name for libc6.  It says li
[13:10] <daftykins> Guest25532: "it says li..." you got cut off there
[13:11] <Guest25532> sorry :) let me do a pastebin
[13:12] <Guest25532> http://pastebin.com/zRQyZRUn
[13:19] <killer> I have a machine that runs bootable usb 64 bit (14.04) quite well but is not able to load 32 bit image ,Is there any such issue with trusty  about that
[13:21] <TJ-> killer: Is it an UEFI based system?
[13:22] <killer> TJ-: No
[13:22] <killer> I made it bootable using uneetbootin and also with dd
[13:22] <killer> My netbook picked the usb but my desktop did not
[13:23] <TJ-> killer: For a legacy BIOS system, I can't think of an architectural reason for not booting an x86 image. How far does it get, or does the BIOS not even recognise the bootable device?
[13:23] <TJ-> killer: Not something as simple as boot order is it?
[13:24] <killer> No , I choose my usb from bootmenu and then , it stops there,some Error isgiven then , that Usb can't ben loaded
[13:24] <cfhowlett> killer, 1. verify the 32bit ISO  2. verify the 32bit USB.  or test ina
[13:25] <TJ-> killer: Is the USB a mass storage device, or ISO9660 image? (In other words, does it have a partition table and MBR) ?
[13:25] <killer> cfhowlett: The same usb worked on my netbook
[13:26] <TJ-> killer: Some BIOS won't boot from a Partitioned Device unless one of the primary partitions has its boot-flag active, even if there is a boot-strap loader in the MBR
[13:26] <TJ-> killer: You can change that easily with 'fdisk' if that could be the reason
[13:27] <killer> CAn I add the boot-flag using gparted
[13:27] <killer> ?
[13:27] <Guest25532> What can I do to fix this: http://pastebin.com/zRQyZRUn
[13:29] <TJ-> killer: Yes
[13:29] <killer> Okn , let me check it out
[13:30] <killer> thanx
[13:30] <TJ-> Guest25532: did you try the suggested correction?
[13:40] <Guest25532> TJ- yes I did
[13:40] <Guest25532> you mean sudo apt-get -f install?
[13:41] <TJ-> Guest25532: yes
[13:41] <Guest25532> I did :)
[13:41] <Guest25532> Then it says E: Internal Error, No file name for libc6
[13:42] <ActionParsnip> !info libc6
[13:42] <killer> On pressig the usb option on booting ,it says"No possible BIOS file found"
[13:43] <killer> _TJ
[13:43] <killer> TJ-
[13:43] <ActionParsnip> killer: did you Md5 test the ISO you downloaded?
[13:43] <TJ-> killer: That is a singular message; that comes from the PC?
[13:44] <killer> ActionParsnip: The same iso worked on my netbook
[13:44] <killer> YEs
[13:44] <ActionParsnip> killer: have you tried a different USB port?
[13:44] <TJ-> killer: That means you launched the PC's BIOS update function
[13:45] <TJ-> killer: check the system manual for the circumstances that cause it to expect a BIOS update on removable media. There may be an option in the setup, sometimes there's a jumper on the motherboard
[13:47] <killer> Yes The setting were a bit messed up , thanx ubuntu is booting now
[13:47] <TJ-> killer:  My bet is you're pressing the wrong key at boot to choose the boot device, you may be pressing the key for BIOS updates which offers a similar "Please select drive" menu as the manual boot device chooser
[13:47] <TJ-> killer: ahh, great, glad that was it - always prefer the simple solutions :)
[13:48] <killer> TJ-: Yes, and I was checking for different issues for over 3 hours
[13:49] <TJ-> killer: I know how it is... then you kick yourself if, like me, you realise you didn't plug the cable in :)
[13:49] <ActionParsnip> Hlad you got the gold :-)
[13:49] <killer> MY other machines usually boots up at F12 and I was trying it here too (F9 was the key)
[13:50] <joshi> hi guys - which part of ubuntu affects how the different programs look in ubuntu. Is it a theme? desktop manager? window manager, desktop environment or none of the above? I'd like to change my ubuntu to see if I can make it look more like mac osx?
[13:51] <ActionParsnip> joshi: the window manager mainly but other factors come into play
[13:51] <ActionParsnip> Joshi: there are lots of guides amd scripts and whatnot to mac-theme Ubuntu
[13:52] <Foreword> k
[13:52] <ActionParsnip> Joshi: what is the output of: cat /etc/issue
[13:54] <joshi> sorry ActionParsnip I'm not on an ubuntu machine at the moment.
[13:54] <ActionParsnip> Joshi: no worries
[13:54] <joshi> can anyone recommend a specific script or tutorial for the lots of mac lookalike type ubuntu things. One that they might have tried previously that works.
[13:55] <loucal> Could anyone point me in the right direction to investigate a video card slowdown?  My radeon 7790 is painfuly choppy when my screensaver comes on (skytentacles) but my much weaker apu (radeon 7480D) is fine.  I want to make sure I'm not part of some cryptocurrency mining botnet but I think if that were the case I would hear my GPU fans picking up.  I'm just lost as to where to start to investigate.
[13:55] <joshi> I also hear ubuntu has the ability for an apple mac like notifications centre where notifications for facebook, dropbox drive etc all appear? Is this true. What is the application called, is it available on other distros?
[13:58] <joshi> Oh and then there is.. Also I would like to look at trying to find and remove duplicate files. I have tried i think it is rmlint but I believe there is a faster application with a similar name, something LINT - does anyone know what it is? Also I would like to look at trying to find and remove duplicate files. I have tried i think it is rmlint but
[13:58] <joshi> I believe there is a faster application with a similar name, something LINT - does anyone know what it is?
[14:00] <zelda> Hi I have setup a lamp server using VestaCP. Whenever system mails are sent they do not have FQDN in from address. But I have properly set the FQDN: http://paste.ubuntu.com/7998650/ also I have set reverse DNS pointing the subdoain to the server IP. What might be the issue?
[14:01] <compdoc> zelda, what service sends the emails?
[14:01] <zelda> how do i check it?
[14:01] <LucaS05> hi. how can i start contributing to ubuntu code?
[14:03] <LostNva> joshi: fslint
[14:03] <zelda> compdoc: they are system emails, like emails sent after taking backups etc, how do I check the service?
[14:03] <ActionParsnip> Joshi: th notifications package is call notify-bin
[14:03] <joshi> ActionParsnip: thanks i'll look into that package.
[14:04] <ActionParsnip> LucaS05: contact a project and offer your services
[14:04] <LucaS05> where i can contact it?
[14:04] <ActionParsnip> LucaS05: use Launchpad. People put contact details on there
[14:07] <compdoc> zelda, I dont think theres a service thats installed by default to send email. I install nullmailer, because its very simple compared to postfix
[14:07] <linuxthefish> hi, how do i add public keys for apt-get update?
[14:07] <linuxthefish> "W: GPG error: http://download.opensuse.org  Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 1BE1E8D7A2B5E9D5"#
[14:10] <zelda> compdoc: I found EXIM installed, so i would have to look into it then. Thanks.
[14:11] <ActionParsnip> linuxthefish:
[14:11] <ActionParsnip> sudo apt-key adv --recv-key --keyserver keyserver.ubuntu.com A2B5E9D5
[14:13] <ActionParsnip> Opensuse have an Ubuntu repo?
[14:13] <linuxthefish> yeah
[14:14] <ActionParsnip> Weird but...oo
[14:14] <ActionParsnip> Ok
[14:15] <webfox> Hello guys!
[14:15] <webtux> hello fox :p
[14:16] <webfox> Does anybody know a cool start for study how to create a website session with php?
[14:16] <ActionParsnip> webfox: I'd try in an http channel.
[14:16] <webfox> ActionParsnip: all right :P
[14:18] <otjura> I recently repartitioned my hdd to use xfs and noticed this in cfdisk: http://a.pomf.se/xdaytz.jpg
[14:18] <otjura> any explanation why there are those two 1.05MB empty spaces?
[14:20] <moschte> hallo
[14:20] <moschte> whois <moschte>
[14:20] <TJ-> webfox: how about the source: http://php.net/manual/en/book.session.php
[14:21] <webfox> TJ-: yes, looking into it. Thank you ;)
[14:21] <ActionParsnip> otjura: you will get a small space at the start of the drive. The on in the middle is just before the extended partition, maybe its working the same as the first primary partition.... just my guess
[14:22] <sgo11> hi, are anyone using lxde? after login, I saw "Xfce Notify Daemon" Error popup. It says "Unable to start notification daemon, Another notification xndaemon is already running". I have no idea why there are two notification daemon suddenly. which one is the default one in lxde? thanks.
[14:23] <TJ-> otjura: Usually the first sector used by partitions is 2048 to allow certain alignments to work across various types of disks
[14:23] <ActionParsnip> sgo11: did you install lxde on xubuntu?
[14:24] <sgo11> ActionParsnip, no. lxde on ubuntu gnome. this didn't happen before.
[14:25] <ActionParsnip> sgo11: are there any bugs reported?
[14:25] <sgo11> ActionParsnip, what I did yesterday is: add lubuntu daily dev, install lxqt and update then upgrade. And then I ppa-purge the ppa and did update/upgrade again. that's all. this error didn't happen yesterday restart though.
[14:26] <sgo11> ActionParsnip, not sure about bug report. once I found this error, I did google. no luck. then come here.
[14:27] <ActionParsnip> sgo11: I suggest you report a bug
[14:28] <sgo11> ActionParsnip, ok. do you know which one is the default notification daemon? I don' want to see this error at every login. maybe I can remove another one.
[14:29] <TJ-> sgo11: check the process list and see if the parent ID of the 'xndaemon' processes helps identify the reason
[14:30] <sgo11> TJ-, I did "ps -ef | grep -i daemon". I didn't see "xndaemon"...
[14:30] <sgo11> don't*
[14:31] <TJ-> sgo11: that's probably an abbreviation for xfce-notify-daemon
[14:32] <TJ-> sgo11: maybe try "pgrep notify" to narrow it down
[14:32] <sgo11> TJ-, I can find xfce4-notifyd
[14:32] <sgo11> TJ-, I saw two xfce4-notifyd with PIDs 1994 and 2819.
[14:33] <ActionParsnip> Same parent PID?
[14:33] <sgo11> ActionParsnip,  both have the same PPID 1785.
[14:33] <TJ-> sgo11: that'l be the ones to investigate:  "xfce4-notifyd: /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/xfce4/notifyd/xfce4-notifyd"
[14:33] <ActionParsnip> sgo11: you could check the session file, see what gets ran when you log in
[14:34] <sgo11> ActionParsnip, there should be one xfce4-notifyd, right?
[14:35] <ActionParsnip> sgo11: not sure tbh
[14:35] <ActionParsnip> sgo11: check the lxde session file in /usr/share/xsessions
[14:36] <sgo11> TJ-, both are running the same command "/usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/xfce4/notifyd/xfce4-notifyd" with the same PPID.
[14:36] <TJ-> sgo11: as ActionParsnip says... it sounds like maybe there's a double entry in the session.d/ maybe causing two to start "grep notify /etc/X11/Xsession.d/*"
[14:37] <sgo11> TJ-, nothing returns.
[14:37] <Enissay> Upgrading to the last version of sublime Build 3059 made my side panel buggy (in 13.04)... how can I roll back to Build 3047 safely ?
[14:37] <sgo11> ActionParsnip, what to check in /usr/share/xsessions ?
[14:37] <Enissay> http://www.sublimetext.com/3
[14:37] <ActionParsnip> sgo11: the lxde session file......
[14:38] <ActionParsnip> sgo11: it will show you some commands
[14:38] <ActionParsnip> Enissay: Raring is no longer supported in any way
[14:39] <sgo11> ActionParsnip, do you mean LXDE.desktop ? it shows startlxde.
[14:39] <ActionParsnip> sgo11: ok that makes things easier
[14:39] <Enissay> ActionParsnip, I know I must upgrade, but it wont be possible for another month... :<
[14:39] <sgo11> ActionParsnip, wait.
[14:40] <ActionParsnip> sgo11: lxde has config files in ~/.config/lxde somewhere with settings and commands to run on login
[14:40] <sgo11> ActionParsnip, I think you should look at Lubuntu.desktop. that is "Exec=/usr/bin/lxsession -s Lubuntu -e LXDE"
[14:40] <ActionParsnip> Enissay: thats fine, but the community cannot support EOL releases
[14:41] <ActionParsnip> sgo11: exactly, so check the 'Lubuntu' session settings
[14:42] <TJ-> sgo11: did you check what command has the parent PID of  1785 ?
[14:42] <sgo11> TJ-, 1785 is init --user
[14:45] <serviscope_minor> hi, so my upgrade from 1204 to 1404 has stalled unstalling libperl5.18.
[14:45] <serviscope_minor> The last message is:
[14:46] <serviscope_minor> GLib-CRITICAL **: g_once_init_leave: assertion `result != 0' failed at /usr/lib/perl/5.18/DynaLoader.pm line 207
[14:46] <serviscope_minor> anyone got any ideas?
[14:46] <serviscope_minor> there are many more error messages before that
[14:46] <serviscope_minor> from that package
[14:46] <TJ-> sgo11: OK, so "init --user" will start from "/etc/X11/Xsession.d/99upstart"
[14:47] <sgo11> TJ-, I haven't found where xfce4-notifyd gets started.
[14:47] <bjorkintosh> so if i connect any device to my laptop other than the keyboard and mouse.
[14:47] <bjorkintosh> it freezes.
[14:48] <bjorkintosh> is there a reason for this?
[14:48] <bjorkintosh> via USB.
[14:48] <ActionParsnip> serviscope_minor: are there any bugs reported?
[14:48] <serviscope_minor> ActionParsnip: er not sure what you mean. Can you clarify?
[14:48] <ActionParsnip> bjorkintosh: do you have the latest bios?
[14:49] <bjorkintosh> for my computer?
[14:49] <serviscope_minor> googling for it yielded a lot of copies of a few forum posts and little else
[14:49] <bjorkintosh> i'm not sure how i'd upgrade to it as it's  windows binary.
[14:49] <ActionParsnip> serviscope_minor: it may be a known issue, you can check on laumchpad
[14:49] <ActionParsnip> Launchpad
[14:49] <serviscope_minor> ActionParsnip: google didn't pick that up.
[14:49] <ActionParsnip> bjorkintosh: do you dual boot?
[14:49] <bjorkintosh> no.
[14:50] <ActionParsnip> bjorkintosh: ah
[14:50] <ActionParsnip> bjorkintosh: what happens when you try to boot with another usb device attached?
[14:50] <ActionParsnip> bjorkintosh: is it any device at all?
[14:50] <TJ-> sgo11: "init --user" reads its startup files from $XDG_CONFIG_DIRS: "/etc/X11/Xsession.d/00upstart:3:    export XDG_CONFIG_DIRS="/usr/share/upstart/xdg:/etc/xdg" "
[14:50] <bjorkintosh> any device at all.
[14:50] <bjorkintosh> it just freezes once i log in.
[14:51] <bjorkintosh> i wonder if it has anything to do with permissions.
[14:51] <ActionParsnip> serviscope_minor: google doesnt pick up a lot of things
[14:51] <bjorkintosh> 'cause it worked fine on 13.10
[14:51] <serviscope_minor> ActionParsnip: true. Nothing obvious stands out in launchpad
[14:51] <ActionParsnip> bjorkintosh: sounds like a bug then
[14:51] <bjorkintosh> after upgrading to 14.04, it's since been doing that.
[14:51] <bjorkintosh> hmm.
[14:51] <bjorkintosh> the next version comes out in october, right?
[14:51] <bjorkintosh> perhaps i might start upgrading now.
[14:52] <serviscope_minor> ActionParsnip: I'm now going to go with no, it's not in launchpad.
[14:53] <ActionParsnip> serviscope_minor: found this http://askubuntu.com/questions/453831/help-online-upgrade-from-12-04-to-14-04-stuck
[14:53] <ActionParsnip> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/zentyal-core/+bug/1310694
[14:53] <serviscope_minor> ActionParsnip: that has no answers sadly. I already found that one.
[14:54] <ubuntu_user> does anyone know how to get my nexus 7 2013 detected by adb and fastboot? i want to install ubuntu and get rid of android
[14:54] <serviscope_minor> well apart from abandon it and reinstall
[14:55] <ActionParsnip> serviscope_minor: might be the way forward. Personally I always clean install. Online upgrades seem to have too many issues so I don't bother.  In any OS.
[14:58] <yorwos> im using ubuntu studio which has xfce , i have tried to install kwin in the past but i get a lot errors if i do kwin --replace , should i uninstall re-install kde-whatever or ?
[14:59] <yorwos> kde-window-manager
[15:00] <Enissay> ActionParsnip, nvm, I installed ST2... and soon will install 14.04... thanks anyway <3
[15:00] <ActionParsnip> What is ST2?
[15:02] <fedor> is this the place to ask for help or i should go to another channel?
[15:04] <fedor> hello to everyone, is this the place where i can ask for help?
[15:04] <kostkon> fedor, this is the plae
[15:04] <kostkon> place*
[15:07] <ActionParsnip> Fedor: this is the official chanel for Ubuntu support
[15:07] <fedor> assuming it is, i want to know if the problem with my sound is solvable. Couple of days ago i installed U 14.04. Everything was quite OK. Then i couldn not watch anything with the cue of sound. I solved it somehow with alsa or pulse (can't say what was indeed the solution). Now again, after I updated the system (thought i am not inclined to assume that this update was the problem) sound does not work again.
[15:09] <fedor> I am now desperate. If nothing helps i am going to delete U14.04. And that is promissing me some great problems. Last time i tried to do it i almost lost my ready-for-defence thesis.
[15:11] <bjorkintosh> you didn't back up, fedor?
[15:11] <bjorkintosh> tsk tsk.
[15:13] <fedor> Then I was sure that nothing out of the ordinary will happen. Alas, was I not right!
[15:13] <ubuntu_user> how to extract .img file of ubuntu?
[15:13] <bjorkintosh> so have you learnt to back-up now?
[15:13] <ubuntu_user> or mount it to access is content
[15:14] <TiagoTiago> Hi
[15:15] <fedor> I formatted partitions with U and tried to boot into already installed W-s. But i could not even with liveCD. I was terrified. However I found how to solve the problem. But now, I think, is not the time to mourn for the times long gone. I want to solve my sound issue. Is there any way to do it apart from pulse and alsamixer?
[15:15] <TiagoTiago> I got a bios RAID 5 array with 3 physical disks and 2 volumes; one volume I got Win7, and I was planning on installing Ubuntu on the second one, but only the volume with Win7 shows (the two volumes are visible and work just fine when I boot Win7). What can I do to fix this?
[15:15] <ActionParsnip> ubuntu_user: why do you want to extract it?
[15:16] <ubuntu_user> ActionParsnip, i need the bootimg
[15:16] <ActionParsnip> ubuntu_user: if you want to put the data on a USB stick to install with, you don't extract it
[15:16] <TiagoTiago> I think it's BIOS RAID, it's on a Asus P8 H67-M Pro mobo
[15:16] <fedor> Tiago, how many drives you see on boot (in BIOS)?
[15:17] <ubuntu_user> ActionParsnip,  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Nexus7/Installation
[15:17] <ubuntu_user> manual installation section
[15:17] <TiagoTiago> the 3 physical ones; and the RAID setup screen shows the two volumes
[15:17] <TiagoTiago> That's not counting the DVD drive and the pendrive with the live Ubuntu installed
[15:18] <ActionParsnip> ubuntu_user: ok if you pulled the file out of the archive then you are done extracting
[15:18] <fedor> When you install, have you tried to select from the dropdown list of drives something?
[15:19] <ActionParsnip> ubuntulog: as shown by this command: sudo fastboot flash userdata /path/to/unzipped/*.img
[15:19] <ActionParsnip> ubuntulog: I hope its not the Raring image. Raring is no longer supported
[15:20] <TiagoTiago> It only shows the first volume (it shows the two partitions, the boot partition and the partition all the files are in; the partition Win7's setup created on that disk)
[15:20] <TiagoTiago> The Disks program, from inside the liveUSB "Try Ubuntu
[15:20] <TiagoTiago> oops, bumped on enter
[15:21] <TiagoTiago> The Disks program, from inside the liveUSB "Try Ubuntu" mode, shows both the 3 physical disks, and the first volume, but not the second one
[15:22] <TiagoTiago> and also things like the DVD drive, the pendrive, the virtual disks created by the live Ubuntu etc, of course
[15:23] <TiagoTiago> Gah! I should've bothered to install Chatzilla first; Freenode's IRC webclient is a pain to read :(
[15:24] <ActionParsnip> TiagoTiago: can you use a command to do with raid to scan the array?
[15:24] <TiagoTiago> I'm not very familiar with Linux; which command would that be?
[15:24] <beast101> hi
[15:26] <beast101> hi everyone
[15:26] <Arse_> hi beast101
[15:26] <TiagoTiago> hello
[15:26] <fedor> hi beast
[15:26] <beast101> how's it going?
[15:26] <fedor> not so good
[15:27] <beast101> why?
[15:27] <tk456> hi any reason why ubuntu 14.04.1 live can't read my windows ntfs drives?
[15:27] <tk456> it could before
[15:27] <MonkeyDust> fedor  beast101 #ubuntu-offtopic for nice social chat please
[15:28] <tk456> says my drives are unclean???
[15:28] <TiagoTiago> beast101: I'm so so; trying to setup Win7 and now also Ubuntu on a BIOS RAID 5 array for the last few days, messed up sleep patterns aren't a good idea if you're already depressed :(
[15:28] <TiagoTiago> Oh, oops, while I was writing my reply I missed MonkeyDust message, sorry
[15:28] <fedor> Got you point, MonkeyDust. The question remains, is there any way to tackle the sound issue apart from configuring alsa or pulse?
[15:28] <hellknight> Is there anything like Sequel Pro for Ubuntu?
[15:29] <MonkeyDust> hellknight  what's sequel pro?
[15:29] <hellknight> it is a MySQL client for OS X.
[15:30] <webtux> hi guys , i have a swap partition placed at the end of my hdd disk; i just want to know if there is a "best place" (speed speaking) in the disk; i mean, is the end of the disk slower/faster than the start ?
[15:30] <ActionParsnip> tk456: if the NTFS is in an inconsistent state it will not read it
[15:30] <TiagoTiago> ActionParsnip:  I'm not sure if you missed my reply: <TiagoTiago> I'm not very familiar with Linux; which command would that be?
[15:31] <ActionParsnip> tk456: if its USB based and you didn't use the safe remove feature in your OS you will get issues
[15:31] <tk456> inconsistent, sounds about right, windows chopped up my 3gig drive into two parts
[15:31] <sgo11> Hi, I still can not find where starts xfce4-notifyd. but I found two processes in 'ps -ef'. one is "notification-daemon". another one is "xfce4-notifyd". If I close the error popup window, "xfce4-notifyd" is gone. I think that means "notification-daemon" might be "xndaemon" in the error message and cause xfce4-notifyd fails to start.
[15:31] <ActionParsnip> TiagoTiago: I know one exists. I dont use junk fakeraid. I use proper raid
[15:31] <TiagoTiago> Oh
[15:31] <ActionParsnip> tk456: Is it usb based?
[15:31] <sgo11> btw, I found "notification-daemon" starts from /etc/xdg/autostart.
[15:31] <tk456> no
[15:31] <tk456> ActionParsnip, no
[15:32] <ActionParsnip> tk456: if you have a windows OS. Chkdsk the partition to make sure it is healthy
[15:32] <TiagoTiago> I assumed I had proper RAID when I started things, the mobo says it got RAID support; only later I learned that it can be different from having a dedicated add-on card. And that there is also a way to do things by software.
[15:33] <tk456> ActionParsnip, kk will do thank you :)
[15:33] <ActionParsnip> TiagoTiago: yeah thats not quite the same thing
[15:33] <TiagoTiago> Though, from what I've read so far, it sounds like the mobo should make the RAID transparent to the OSes; works just fine with Windows, not sure what is going on with Ubuntu
[15:34] <TiagoTiago> But I keep finding things that contradict what I had concluded earlier, so I could be wrong about this too...
[15:34] <ActionParsnip> TiagoTiago: where y
[15:34] <ActionParsnip> TiagoTiago: sorry
[15:34] <TiagoTiago> np
[15:35] <ActionParsnip> TiagoTiago: where you go into the controller and setup the array, then the OS only sees the presented disks
[15:36] <TiagoTiago> Right after the video card screen, and before the POST screen, there is a screen that shows that if I press control-i it loads the RAID setup thingy
[15:36] <tk456> ActionParsnip, checked them, win says they have no errors
[15:36] <TiagoTiago> I mean, when I turn on the computer, that is what happens
[15:37] <ActionParsnip> TiagoTiago: try: sudo mdadm -s
[15:37] <ActionParsnip> tk456: is that with a full scan?
[15:37] <tk456> ActionParsnip, aah okies will do thanks again ;)
[15:38] <TiagoTiago> ActionParsnip: sudo: mdadm: command not found
[15:39] <ActionParsnip> tk456: if its the system drive you will need to reboot to get the scan to run
[15:39] <sonjbond> Unknown configuration key `foreign-architecture' found in your `dpkg' configuration files.      how to solve this problem ?
[15:39] <kelvinferraz> hello
[15:39] <MonkeyDust> sonjbond  is it ARM ?
[15:39] <TiagoTiago> On the software center it says it's for software RAID, but isn't software RAID a different thing from BIOS RAID?
[15:39] <tk456> ActionParsnip, hmm do you hit F4 or something when rebooting?
[15:40] <ActionParsnip> tk456: what to do?
[15:40] <tk456> chkdisk
[15:40] <sonjbond> what is ARM ?
[15:40] <ActionParsnip> TiagoTiago: its the same thing
[15:40] <ActionParsnip> sonjbond: a cpu architecture
[15:40] <TiagoTiago> ActionParsnip: thought software RAID was setup and ran by the OS itself and not by the BIOS
[15:40] <ActionParsnip> tk456: its a command, in command prompt. Or you can run the GUI application
[15:41] <sonjbond> hmm , I found this error when i use apt-get
[15:41] <tk456> ActionParsnip, roger ty
[15:41] <MonkeyDust> sonjbond  what's the output of    cat /etc/issue
[15:41] <sonjbond> Ubuntu 14.04 LTS \n \l
[15:41] <ActionParsnip> sonjbond: http://askubuntu.com/questions/82330/stuck-with-foreign-architecture-i386-when-using-apt-get
[15:42] <loucal> Is there any way to see what processes are using gpu time? My gpu is crippled
[15:42] <TiagoTiago> I think I remember reading that software RAID was also OS dependent (can't put Windows on an array setup by Linux because the Windows installer won't know about the array)
[15:42] <MonkeyDust> sonjbond  my guess is, i386 and amd64 are somehow conflicting
[15:44] <sonjbond> yep, I tried to install a modem driver of 32 bit on my 64 bit Ubuntu OS last night ..  after that I am seeing this error ..  and now my modem is not connecting ...
[15:44] <TiagoTiago> The box of my mobo says it got "Intel Rapid Storage Technology supporting RAID 0, 1, 5 and 10"
[15:45] <TiagoTiago> And the setup thingy at boot also says it is that "Intel Rapid Storage Technology"
[15:47] <ActionParsnip> Yeah its raid but its basically like a 'home user' grade
[15:48] <TiagoTiago> But is it the same thing as software RAID?
[15:48] <sgo11> TJ-, sorry to interrupt you. I found this /usr/share/dbus-1/services/org.xfce.xfce4-notifyd.Notifications.service which has the line "Exec=/usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/xfce4/notifyd/xfce4-notifyd". is this where the program starts from? thanks.
[15:49] <sgo11> I still can not find why xfce4-notifyd autostarts.
[15:50] <MoPac> Hello. I'm looking for help with a reinstall-in-place. Situation: I accidentally broke my system through a chmod typo.  Ub-14.10, LUKS, btrfs. Now running from live USB with LUKS partition unlocked. Want to reinstall everything but leave my home folder alone a la https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuReinstallation
[15:51] <MoPac> But problem: installer doesn't give that screen recognizing existing installation. Options are only to put new system on. Do I need to mount my old installation somewhere? Or does the installer just not work like that anymore?
[15:52] <TiagoTiago> Hm, I guess I should've done it thru apt-get itself instead of the Software Center; got an error when trying to install that mdadm thing, and now when I tried to uninstall it to try again it stopped at "waiting for apt-get to close", which I guess means apt-get is waiting for some user input and Software Center is oblivious...
[15:52] <Peyam> Hi
[15:52] <TiagoTiago> nvm, seems it has moved on finally
[15:52] <Peyam> Does spotify ( NOT PREMIUM) work on ubuntu?
[15:52] <MoPac> Peyam: Yes
[15:52] <TiagoTiago> Still frustrating only seeing a static message and a non-moving progress bar...
[15:53] <Peyam> MoPac, I will try it now. if it requres Premium I will punish you
[15:53] <MoPac> Peyam: Get the program from the spotify website itself. I've never had any issues with it or noticed any missing functionality, and I've never paid
[15:53] <instigator> Hello. Is it possible to create a partition inside linux and install windows on it? (want to dual-boot)
[15:53] <MoPac> Peyam: Spotify has a special build just for Linux
[15:54] <Peyam> good thanks. Last time I check 2 years ago it reqiured Premium
[15:54] <cfhowlett> !dualboot | instigator,
[15:54] <eeee> MoPac: do you have a seperate /home partition?
[15:55] <cfhowlett> instigator, note: as you installing linux > windows, your grub bootloader will get written over.  you'll need to reinstall grub to get it back
[15:55] <MoPac> eeee: nope, although I do have a separate /boot partition
[15:55] <MoPac> eeee: but /home is on the main one, and there's no swap
[15:56] <instigator> ubottu: ok ill try it out. Thanks
[15:56] <MoPac> I could just back it up, but it's huge, and I was hoping to just be able to reinstall in place
[15:56] <eeee> MoPac:  do you have an external hdd to back up /home to ?
[15:56] <MoPac> ^mindreader
[15:56] <eeee> MoPac: i see
[15:57] <instigator> ubottu: really? 0_0
[15:57] <MoPac> Just wondering for now if the installer is still set up to do that thing at the link I posted above? (recognize and 'upgrade' to existing version?)
[15:58] <ActionParsnip> instigator: you can but you will need to reinstate Grub as the Windows installer will overwrite the MBR
[15:58] <MoPac> Why oh why did I slap the spacebar while doing find /usr/lib.... type -f chmod .... ??
[15:59] <ActionParsnip> MoPac: hitting space while find is running wont do amything
[15:59] <almostevery> hello everyone, as an ubuntu user with perseverance, here is my request for help once again. I just started using 14.04., and saw that the new design of the keyring program doesn't 'forget' the keyring passwords. that is, across restarts of computer or re-insertions of hardware, it doesn't ask the password again, but instead it suffices to right-click on unlock to access the keyring. is there a way to change this to the one in 12.04.?
[15:59] <ActionParsnip> Anything*
[15:59] <instigator> ActionParsnip: would you reinstate Grub after you create the partition?
[16:00] <ActionParsnip> instigator: yes or only Windows will boot
[16:00] <cfhowlett> almostevery, this seems worthy of a bug report - have you filed one?
[16:00] <MoPac> ActionParsnip ... what I did was to issue the wrong command and not check before I ran it.. I meant to chmod everything in a subfolder of /usr/lib but instead I ran chmod recursively on every non-folder file in all of /usr/lib
[16:00] <trijntje> almostevery: it does require the password. However, it automatically unlocks it when you provide your login password
[16:00] <ActionParsnip> instigator: creating the space for Windows won't affect Grub. Installing Windows will
[16:00] <trijntje> if you want it to ask again after you logged in just change it to something other then your login password
[16:00] <eeee> MoPac: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuReinstallation
[16:01] <almostevery> trijntje, you mean the login password that I need to enter to access my desktop at each session?
[16:01] <MoPac> eeee: Yes, but that's the problem I'm having. Running the installer from here (live USB), even with the LUKS partition unlocked, I don't get that screen where it says that I have an existing installation and offers to upgrade it
[16:01] <TiagoTiago> ActionParsnip: I installed mdamd and ran that command you said; it gave me an error: mdadm: -s does not set the mode, and so cannot be the first option.
[16:01] <trijntje> almostevery: yeah
[16:01] <MoPac> eeee: when I choose 'something else', it just takes me to the partition table
[16:02] <almostevery> trijntje, so that means if the login password is compromised by any accident, the keyrings are, too.
[16:02] <MonkeyDust> MoPac  yes, there's you can define partitions
[16:02] <MoPac> eeee: and the partition table GUI's next step is "install now", so I assume that even if I set the mount points as they were before, it wouldn't be taking me to that upgrade screen
[16:02] <cfhowlett> MoPac, exactly.  something else = manually configure
[16:02] <eeee> MoPac: ok, im wondering if you erase everything in "/" manually and leave /home, and then reinstall to "/" without choosing the format option would that work..
[16:02] <trijntje> almostevery: yes
[16:02] <almostevery> trijntje, I don't think it is a wise thing to do. I don't see any purpose for this change.
[16:03] <cfhowlett> almostevery, set a strong password should safeguard that ...
[16:03] <trijntje> almostevery: its not a change, this behaviour has always been the default
[16:03] <trijntje> but if you don't like it, feel free to set a differentt password for the keyring
[16:03] <MoPac> eeee: I doubt it. Although I'm not an expert on the mechanism, I assume it'll be creating a new home folder and doing everything as root...
[16:03] <almostevery> cfhowlett, but why make it one -or more- step(s) less secure when users are already prone to penetration in every possible way
[16:04] <almostevery> ?
[16:04] <cfhowlett> almostevery, meta - issue.  correctable by changing the keyring password.  perhaps time to configure your system as you wish and move on?
[16:04] <ActionParsnip> MoPac: ohhhhw
[16:05] <almostevery> trijntje ??! I haven't used 13.04. or 13.10. but with 12.04. it wasnt the case
[16:05] <MoPac> ActionParsnip: yeah, ouch, right?
[16:05] <ActionParsnip> MoPac: very.
[16:05] <trijntje> almostevery: yes it was, unless your keyring and login password weren't the same, or you somehow broke the keyring program accidentally
[16:06] <almostevery> cfhowlett, this is precisely why I am here in the first place. I asked how I could change this default setting
[16:06] <MoPac> On the upside, I got to see the absolute hilarity that can ensue when, in order to make the system boot at all, you 777 all of /usr/lib
[16:06] <MonkeyDust> MoPac  being root when you are "not an expert" == VERY bad idea
[16:06] <almostevery> trijntje> almostevery: its not a change, this behaviour has always been the default
[16:06] <trijntje> almostevery: I already told you, change the password for the keyring, and it won't unlock automatically
[16:07] <MoPac> Spoiler: all the windows flash back and forth every 1 to 2 seconds between non-stylized fonts/menus and your pre-set menu fonts and GTK icons
[16:07] <eeee> MoPac: maybe if you change the /home folder's name to something else, it won't touch it while reinstalling,
[16:07] <MoPac> MonkeyDust: not an expert on the mechanism of the installer, but I did know what I was doing with chmodding that subfolder. I was just being careless with my keystrokes and lazy with my eyes
[16:07] <almostevery> trijntje change the password of 'Login' keyring, you mean?
[16:08] <cfhowlett> trijntje, details/tutorial/how to keyring password change?
[16:08] <Bombo> i'm running ubuntu 14.04 with lxde, and the lxsession-logout doesn't show the shutdown window when i press the shutdown button. it is running several times in the bg, i see it with htop. i can run it in a term, but nothing happens...
[16:09] <VectorX> hi, i need to create a secure wb server running nginx and the well LNMP stack so to speak, which would include ssh, ftp, stuff like selinux or apparmour, mail etc, where would i find a good guide with detail explanation ?
[16:09] <trijntje> almostevery: yes, change the password of the keyring
[16:09] <cfhowlett> !server | VectorX, server channel would know this kind of stuff ...
[16:10] <MoPac> almostevery trijntje : I've tried to get around this in the past with multiple keyrings.  For instance, I put the passwords for my encfs stashes, if they're on any keyring at all, on a different one. Problem there is that when you do unlock another keyring, the dialog where you enter the password has a check box asking if you want to unlock it at login. And it's always checked by default, and I was never able to find a way to stop that behavior. So if you
[16:10] <sgo11> is that possible to check the installation date of an installed package? thanks.
[16:11] <MoPac> almostevery : do you have a specific issue with data that you're trying to keep locked until you enter a password for it?
[16:11] <almostevery> I don't see what's the purpose of getting things to a more complicated and not better state than before
[16:11] <almostevery> MoPac, how do you mean a specific issue?
[16:12] <cfhowlett> sgo11, more /var/log/dpkg*
[16:12] <TheSexualMessiah> Hello
[16:13] <MoPac> almostevery : I mean, for example, is the new beahviour a problem for you specifically because you have an encrypted drive or folder that you don't want mounted just because the main login password was entered?
[16:13] <cfhowlett> sgo11, also more /var/log/apt*
[16:13] <sgo11> cfhowlett, thanks a lot. :)
[16:14] <cfhowlett> sgo11, happy2help
[16:14] <trijntje> almostevery: try this: http://www.ossdoc.com/2013/01/how-to-change-ubuntu-keyring-password.html
[16:14] <almostevery> MoPac, both. I dont want my drives to be auto-recognized and decrypted, and I dont want my keyrings to be kept ready to be unlocked with a click without me entering a password.
[16:14] <almostevery> either
[16:14] <TheSexualMessiah> im new using ubuntu, can anyone help to improve the speed? Thanks
[16:14] <almostevery> and this is logical. it is security
[16:14] <cfhowlett> TheSexualMessiah, speed of what?
[16:14] <TheSexualMessiah> some tweak..
[16:15] <almostevery> I dont know what ubuntu had in mind
[16:15] <TheSexualMessiah> boot up speed opening programas etc..
[16:16] <MoPac> for drives - e.g., encrypted cloud stashes, I use gnome encfs manager to get around that problem, and I like it a lot
[16:16] <cfhowlett> TheSexualMessiah, more ram
[16:16] <trijntje> almostevery: how many times have I told you that it uses the login password to unlock the keyring? So it DOES ask you for a password to unlock it, when you login
[16:16] <TheSexualMessiah> i have 16gb cfhowlett
[16:16] <TheSexualMessiah> but unity feels sluggish..
[16:17] <cfhowlett> TheSexualMessiah, try a different desktop environment.    sudo apt-get install xfce4 lxde
[16:17] <MoPac> The gnome encfs manager developer also (awesomely, within like hours of my asking) added functionality to choose which keyring to save a drive's password to if you want it cached at all
[16:17] <TheSexualMessiah> i like Unity
[16:17] <trijntje> TheSexualMessiah: make sure you have video drivers installed
[16:17] <trijntje> !drivers
[16:17] <trijntje> !driver
[16:17] <TheSexualMessiah> i have the power, amd fx 8core but unity slows down things..
[16:18] <theseb> Hard to set up computer to just *SEND* email? Do I need to do all similar hardcore setup one does to set up a mail *SERVER*?
[16:18] <trijntje> go to software & updates -> Additional drivers
[16:18] <cfhowlett> TheSexualMessiah, so ... you wont' even test a different DE?  live with it.
[16:18] <almostevery> trijntje, I think you dont understand, or want to understand the problem I've been talking about. but there are other people here who did.
[16:18] <TiagoTiago> ActionParsnip: -s worked with dmraid instead of mdadm, it seems to be able to see the second volume; what do I do now?
[16:18] <MonkeyDust> TheSexualMessiah  i picked this up in this channel http://paste.ubuntu.com/7999738/
[16:18] <cfhowlett> TheSexualMessiah, but as trijntje suggests, update your drivers>addigtional drivers
[16:18] <abilash> Hello! This is my first time here
[16:18] <TheSexualMessiah> i have all my drivers updated, sorry
[16:19] <TheSexualMessiah> thanks MonkeyDust
[16:19] <TheSexualMessiah> gtx 480 ti
[16:19] <TheSexualMessiah> 780**
[16:19] <cfhowlett> abilash, ask your ubuntu questions
[16:19] <almostevery> and I am not a ubuntu user since yesterday. I know how to change keyring password. it is not my problem here.
[16:20] <MoPac> almostevery re: the above, I haven't tried to rig this system to do something like storing a VPN password in a credentials file in an encfs stash, thereby exposing it only when I use gencfs-manager to unlock the stash. Maybe it's possible? I don't know how aggressively ubuntu will try to keyring-ize those credentials. But for my actual encrypted data, this system has worked really well, and it meshes well with the need to keep working data synced with, fo
[16:20] <almostevery> cfhowlett rightfully mentioned earlier that this could be a bug report. it is not a normal situation to have all keyrings open
[16:21] <cfhowlett> almostevery, file the bug.  this will NOT be fixed in IRC.  change or don't change the password. really nothing more to discuss here.
[16:21] <almostevery> and whoever claims otherwise, sorry, I think it isn't the way the distros have been.
[16:22] <cfhowlett> almostevery, please continue this thread it #ubuntu-offtopic so that this channel can be used for those with technical support issues
[16:22] <MoPac> almostevery : just so I understand better, this is a different behaviour than the one before, where new keyrings would want to "open" because Ubuntu wanted to put them in a chained configuration, with the key to all the other keyrings put on the 'default' login keyring?
[16:22] <almostevery> cfhowlett, I see that it cannot be solved here. but it IS a technical problem, I guess, and a very core one at that
[16:22] <theseb> what app do i need to send email? i know about mutt but do i need anything else like postfix?
[16:23] <MoPac> theseb : you're talking about running a whole actual mailserver, right? Not just "sending email" by logging on to an existing service like gmail or a company mail account?
[16:24] <derek-g_> what's the easiest remote control software like logmein I can install on ubuntu?
[16:24] <theseb> MoPac: i have an ubuntu server and i only want to send notifications of certain events to the sysadmin....whatever is easiest in a script
[16:24] <cfhowlett> almostevery, and yet you've been offered the immediate solution - repeatedly.  Yet you insist on knowing WHY canoncial made this choice. this is NOT the venue that discussion.  #ubuntu-dev or #ubuntu-offtopic plus the bug report would be more likely to get that question answered.  Otherwise it seems a whole LOT like - something other than tech support.
[16:25] <almostevery> MoPac, when I enter a keyring's password only once, then it is apparently saved, and from then on, it suffices forever only to access desktop, and then you can just right-click 'unlock' and access the contents of the keyring
[16:25]  * trijntje sighs and leaves
[16:26] <almostevery> cfhowlett, I got and agreed with your point. but I am still talking on the problem with another user, on a technical level.
[16:26] <almostevery> if I may
[16:26] <MonkeyDust> derek-g_  logmein seems to be a website, not a program
[16:26] <cfhowlett> almostevery, OK -- PM that discussion please
[16:26] <MoPac> almostevery : I haven't looked at it in 14.10, but my previous experience is that this used to happen in a very specific way: the second keyring password was saved as a credential on the "default" keyring, which opens on login
[16:27] <Guest4905> so I am trying to update an xbmcbuntu install to 13.1 from 13.0, I made sure I have the ppa in my sources( http://ppa.launchpad.net/team-xbmc/ppa/ubuntu/ quantal/main), do a sudo-apt-get update, and then sudo apt-get intall xbmc but it still says that I have the latest version. Am I missing something?
[16:27] <cfhowlett> !13.10 | Guest4905,
[16:27] <cfhowlett> Guest4905, note : end of life
[16:27] <almostevery> cfhowlett, why should I pm it? a technical discussion is taking place at the moment, alongside other technical discussions of other users
[16:28] <cfhowlett> Guest4905, 12.04 and 14.04 are LTS
[16:28] <Guest4905> cfhowlett yikes, so I have to upgrade my whole distro now?
[16:28] <MoPac> almostevery: but it could be removed from the default keyring manually, and if I remember right, it was possible to keep it from being saved on the default keyring when it was entered each time, but this required remembering, each time, to uncheck the box that says "unlock this keyring at login" or something to that effect.  If you entered the second keyring password with that box checked, then it would unlock at login
[16:28] <ActionParsnip> derek-g_: what do you want to do on the remote system?
[16:28] <cfhowlett> Guest4905, do you like things like security updates?  upgrade.
[16:28] <MoPac> ...but only until such time as you went to the "default" keyring, found that second keyring credential, and removed it
[16:28] <derek-g_> ActionParsnip, jsut a random user support
[16:28] <ActionParsnip> derek-g_: teamviewer works
[16:29] <Guest4905> cfhowlett but why would I still not be able to use xbmc 13.1 if tis not even an offical ppa?
[16:29] <ActionParsnip> derek-g_: you could use vnc if you are doing it over LAN only, or through an SSH tunnel for over WAN
[16:29] <almostevery> MoPac, where would these checkboxes be?
[16:29] <cfhowlett> !ppa | Guest4905,
[16:30] <rafaellaguna> anybody for helping on uefi?
[16:30] <derek-g_> ActionParsnip, nnah. I can't. I need all automated like logmein.
[16:30] <ActionParsnip> derek-g_: automated what?
[16:30] <cfhowlett> Guest4905, unsupported by Ubuntu/canonical are the PPA's.  see the PPA maintainers for support.
[16:30] <Guest4905> ubottu i know what a ppa is, and that is why I am wondering why I cant just use the xbmc PPA without having to upgrade my whole distro
[16:30] <derek-g_> ActionParsnip, so I don;'t have to worry about them changing ip or buying different router etc.
[16:30] <ActionParsnip> Guest4905: contact the PPA maintainer
[16:30] <rafaellaguna> I'd like to install Ubuntu on Acer Aspire E
[16:31] <cfhowlett> rafaellaguna, ... OK ... and?
[16:31] <cfhowlett> !install | rafaellaguna
[16:31] <ActionParsnip> derek-g_: you can use noip to resolve the IP to a name and use that. Over WAN its going to be pretty slow
[16:31] <rafaellaguna> cfhowlett, I just can't, I read everything about uefi setup but I can't even access a console
[16:32] <Guest4905> cfhowlett ok i guess ill have to take the plung and upgrade. I have a higly customized setup with stuff like tvheadend and things like that. It wont break them will it?
[16:32] <ActionParsnip> !uefi
[16:32] <rafaellaguna> kernel panic - no init found
[16:32] <ActionParsnip> rafaellaguna: did you MD5 test the ISO you downloaded?
[16:33] <MoPac> almostevery : the behavior is (was?): I set up a stash in gnome encfs manager and tell it to cache that password in my custom "keyring2".  Next time I log on to system, the creds in the 'default' keyring are unlocked, but 'keyring2' is still secure. I go to gnome encfs manager and ask to open that stash. It knows that the credential is in keyring2, so it asks ubuntu to open that keyring if it's not open.  Ubuntu (Seahorse?) then gives me a pop-up dialog f
[16:33] <rafaellaguna> yes, it's fine, used on another computer
[16:33] <cfhowlett> Guest4905, assume it will.  backup your backups.  personally, I also moved to a separate /home   which I DO NOT FORMAT during installation.  this retains my data and configs during the past 3 upgrades 10.04 12.04 14.04
[16:33] <Guest4905> cfhowlett cant i just sudo apt-get upgrade?
[16:33] <MoPac> almostevery: in that popup box, under the password entry field, there is a tick box with something like 'open this keyring on startup' or 'save this keyring password to the default keyring'.  I enter my password and UNCHECK it.
[16:33] <cfhowlett> rafaellaguna, 1. verify the ISO  2. verify the USB
[16:33] <rafaellaguna> all verified, cfhowlett
[16:34] <cfhowlett> Guest4905, sudo do-release-upgrade
[16:34] <quantibility> do ubuntu developers have a chill channel?
[16:34] <cfhowlett> !eolupgrade | rafaellaguna, but as you're already EOL ...
[16:34] <cfhowlett> !info chill
[16:34] <Nancy> lpm todos hablan ingles aca
[16:34] <quantibility> !info chill
[16:34] <quantibility> ?
[16:34] <cfhowlett> !es | Nancy,
[16:35] <Nancy> vallan a lamierda
[16:35] <rafaellaguna> Nancy, VAYAN
[16:35] <almostevery> MoPac, I dont have them in 14.04. maybe it's in other distros
[16:35] <quantibility> someone inite me to #ubuntu-en ill behave
[16:35] <rafaellaguna> cfhowlett, what? I'm trying to install Ubuntu 14.04 in a new laptop computer
[16:36] <quantibility> rafaellaguna i have installed ubuntu on a new lap top computer
[16:36] <cfhowlett> !efi | rafaellaguna, doh!   right.  got you confused with someone else. sorry.  hey , your new aspire has uefi so ...
[16:37] <Nancy> ay bueno
[16:37] <Nancy> me equivoco siempre en esa palabra xD
[16:37] <cfhowlett> Nancy, No Habla Espanol.  go to ubuntu-es
[16:37] <cfhowlett> !es | Nancy
[16:38] <Nancy> alguien me explica para que es este chat
[16:38] <rafaellaguna> cfhowlett, I followed all the steps, it just doesn't boot (no init)
[16:38] <rafaellaguna> cfhowlett, but Windows was killed by Ubiquity
[16:38] <cfhowlett> rafaellaguna, all what steps?
[16:38] <rafaellaguna> cfhowlett, Case when Ubuntu must be installed in EFI mode"
[16:38] <cfhowlett> rafaellaguna, confirm: installation completed?
[16:39] <rafaellaguna> yes, completed
[16:39] <rafaellaguna> no errors, but no start after
[16:39] <rafaellaguna> 3 partitions (/, swap and /home) as usuakl
[16:39] <rafaellaguna> bootmanager in sda
[16:40] <cfhowlett> rafaellaguna, just for testing: boot your USB and reinstall grub
[16:40] <cfhowlett> !grub
[16:40] <almostevery> cfhowlett, there is not a channel named #ubuntu-dev, by the way
[16:40] <rafaellaguna> I can't boot in console mode<
[16:40] <MoPac> almostevery : hmm, so I just tried making some test keyrings on this live USB of 14.10 , and it looks like there is no longer anything in the 'properties' dialog for a keyring, and I don't see that check box when I unlock a non-default one. So maybe the system has indeed changed, or maybe it's just an issue with the live USB setup or with 14.10 being under dev
[16:41] <cfhowlett> almostevery, sorry for bad intel.  They have a channel somewhere.
[16:41] <almostevery> MoPac, yes. it is completely different from before. even its folder location is different
[16:42] <Janusz> Hello. I've got big and muscular body. Can I get a discount on Ubuntu polo so I will advertise Ubuntu this way?
[16:42] <TiagoTiago> brb, gonna install Chatzilla
[16:42] <cfhowlett> Janusz, you are in the wrong channel. ask #ubuntu-offtopic
[16:44] <TiagoTiago> Ah, much better, can read without getting a headache now
[16:44] <TiagoTiago> Anyway, I found this: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/dmraid/+bug/292302
[16:44] <TiagoTiago> Could it be responsible for the issue I'm having?
[16:45] <MoPac> almostevery: found my old gripe at http://askubuntu.com/questions/331081/keyrings-seahorse-disabling-default-setting-of-auto-unlock-at-login-for-seconda?rq=1 , so confirmed that it changed. Maybe there's a changelog somewhere of it?
[16:47] <TiagoTiago> Oh, I forgot to mention, doing sudo dmraid -ay I get this error: ERROR: no mapping possible for RAID set isw_bgchiahfbd_Raid5Vol2
[16:47] <gas-sho> what command loads a picture taker?
[16:48] <SchrodingersScat> gas-sho: of the screen? Print Screen.  Of you? Cheese??
[16:50] <almostevery> MoPac, I joined #ubuntu-devel channel, if you like, join to hear if anyone helps.
[16:51] <MoPac> almostevery : thanks, but going to have to go once my /home backup finishes
[16:51] <Guest52118> Hey people
[16:52] <kile> Hi
[16:52] <cfhowlett> kile, ask your ubuntu questions
[16:56] <bjorkintosh> my ubuntu question is, how to fix usb access permissions.
[16:56] <bjorkintosh> is there a usb group?
[16:57] <sgo11> I think I finally figured it out. dbus service starts automatically which is defined in /etc/init/dbus.conf. and then dbus service will autostart dbus services in "/usr/share/dbus-1/services/*.service". and the file "org.xfce.xfce4-notifyd.Notifications.service" has "Exec=.../xfce4-notifyd". that's how xfce4-notifyd autostarts.
[17:03] <Kai120> hola
[17:03] <Kai120> -.{.-
[17:03] <Kai120> hola???__:_
[17:03] <expunge> Kai120: shalom
[17:03] <Kai120> eh?
[17:04] <expunge> Kai120: hi
[17:05] <cfhowlett> Kai120, ask your ubuntu question
[17:05] <Kai120> ok
[17:05] <Kai120> em
[17:05] <Kai120> my ubuntu
[17:05] <Kai120> have a problems
[17:05] <Kai120> problems whit the dpkg
[17:06] <cfhowlett> !enter
[17:06] <Kai120> !enter
[17:06] <Kai120> ey
[17:06] <Kai120> please talk-.
[17:06] <jmadero> what's the best remote desktop software to use between two Ubuntu machines?
[17:06] <jmadero> I see vnc but it says it's slower than rdesktop, so should I just use rdesktop?
[17:06] <cfhowlett> Kai120, ask your ubuntu questions
[17:06] <Kai120> (Ping timeout: 260 seconds)
 Kai120, ask your ubuntu questions
[17:06] <TiagoTiago> The guidelines thing says 10-15 would be enough to repeat a question if I get no answers so here it goes:
[17:07] <Kai120> Some time ago I install the java 7 from terminal
[17:07] <Kai120> since then it tells me that utilize synaptic sudo dpkg --configure -a.
[17:08] <xubuntu697> on skype... on the michrophone I have "Pulse audio server (local)" but I can't choose anything else why? :(  pulse audio server (local) doesnt work D:
[17:08] <xubuntu697> everytime i turn on the pc it asks me a password...how can i remove it?everytime i turn on the pc it asks me a password...how can i remove it?
[17:08] <Kai120> I do it in the terminal but only says removing .... outadet cache and does not load anymore
[17:08] <TiagoTiago> I am trying to install Ubuntu on a Intel Rapid Storage Technology RAID 5 array; but only one of the volumes is available; if I do "sudo dmraid -ay" it says "ERROR: no mapping possible for RAID set isw_bgchiahfbd_Raid5Vol2" . How do I fix this?
[17:08] <expunge> xubuntu697: recent versions of Skype make it hard to not use pulseaudio
[17:09] <Kai120> help me to do? eh searched everywhere in vain I can not use synaptic or install anything from terminal or ubuntu software center
[17:09] <derek-g_> how secure is skype on Ubuntu privacy wise? Is it even under apparmor profile?
[17:09] <TiagoTiago> Windows can see the two volumes just fine, so it's something specific to Ubuntu (or perhaps Linux in general)
[17:09] <Kai120> {-...........-
[17:09] <Kai120> shut up
[17:09] <xubuntu697> MEHH if someone wants to help me send me a direct message
[17:09] <Kai120> i go to watch el rostro de analía
[17:09] <cfhowlett> !ops | Kai120,
[17:10] <xubuntu697> everytime i turn on the pc it asks me a password...how can i remove it?everytime i turn on the pc it asks me a password...how can i remove it?
[17:10] <cfhowlett> derek-g_, skype is no more or less secure on skype than it is on windows
[17:10] <xubuntu697> on skype... on the michrophone I have "Pulse audio server (local)" but I can't choose anything else why? :(  pulse audio server (local) doesnt work D:
[17:10] <cfhowlett> on Linux
[17:10] <derek-g_> cfhowlett, well - isn't there selinux and apparmor?
[17:11] <Kai120> eh
[17:11] <xubuntu697> on skype... on the michrophone I have "Pulse audio server (local)" but I can't choose anything else why? :(  pulse audio server (local) doesnt work D:
[17:11] <xubuntu697> on skype... on the michrophone I have "Pulse audio server (local)" but I can't choose anything else why? :(  pulse audio server (local) doesnt work D:
[17:11] <xubuntu697> on skype... on the michrophone I have "Pulse audio server (local)" but I can't choose anything else why? :(  pulse audio server (local) doesnt work D:
[17:11] <derek-g_> cfhowlett, so to prevent app from touching things it's not supposed to go to?
[17:11] <cfhowlett> derek-g_, it's microsoft owned ... expect no special miracles
[17:11] <Kai120> i speak spanish :(
[17:11] <Kai120> the channel ubuntu-es
[17:11] <xubuntu697> there is any alternative to skype that is available even on android and ubuntu?
[17:11] <Kai120> no talk me
[17:11] <derek-g_> cfhowlett, i know:( I have no choice. family uses it and I'm overseas.
[17:11] <cfhowlett> !skype | derek-g_,
[17:11] <Kai120> bye :(
[17:11] <TiagoTiago> derek-g_:  I believe after Microsoft acquired Skype, it sends all communication thru their own servers (not P2P anymore), and I think they have some backdoors in the protocol. I don't remember the details and haven't read about it recently, so maybe they fixed it, but I remember a while ago it was found that the protocol was not safe
[17:11] <silentfury> hi guys, i'm having a problem with the filesystem being marked as read-only in a cloud instance
[17:12] <MonkeyDust> xubuntu697  skype uses its own protocol, not sure if any other program can use it
[17:12] <xubuntu697> #ubuntuit
[17:12] <SchrodingersScat> !info ekiga | xubuntu697
[17:13] <expunge> the next most popular video chat service is probably google's
[17:13] <grml`> q
[17:13] <derek-g_> SchrodingersScat, i know about alternatives. but what am I supposed to do if others are on skype and they're not techincal whatsoever to install something else.
[17:13] <xubuntu697> porca trota
[17:14] <derek-g_> it sucks. skype sucks.
[17:14] <xubuntu697> do sta il canale ubuntu italiano????
[17:14] <TiagoTiago> Considering Google looks into even the pictures you send attached to emails, I wouldn't consider anything from Google to be much more secure.
[17:14] <ActionParsnip> !it
[17:15] <ActionParsnip> SchrodingersScat: you can use pidgin but it is instant messagimg only
[17:16] <SchrodingersScat> derek-g_: not sure, if you can't motivate/shame them into respecting themselves, there's not much anyone can do.
[17:17] <ActionParsnip> SchrodingersScat: just use another protocol. Have your buddies do the same, no more skype
[17:18] <SchrodingersScat> ActionParsnip: I'm not the one with the skype buddies.
[17:18] <MonkeyDust> "simply convince your buddies", shouldnt be too hard
[17:19] <TiagoTiago> The problem is convincing your buddies' buddies and so on
[17:19] <ActionParsnip> Well if people want to use it then the problem will persist
[17:19] <ActionParsnip> Same as the move from Windows to Linux, similar mentality
[17:20] <TiagoTiago> Except that with Windows/Linux it's more about convincing software makers and not naive individuals
[17:21] <brainyron> see what the NSA has done to us?  Noone knows who to trust anymore, so we trust noone
[17:21] <MonkeyDust> in god we trust
[17:21] <genii> !info freecad > genii
[17:22] <TiagoTiago> Things were already bad before when the companies were already screwing up by themselves, but now we know those screwups got real consequences, not just hypothetical anymore
[17:22] <ActionParsnip> brainyron: the whole nsa bashing has become so boring now
[17:22] <derek-g_> There is no way I can convince my mom to use something else but skype... and calling on regular phone from overseas is 50 cents a minute - this blows soo much.
[17:22] <derek-g_> ActionParsnip, I'll bash them all day long. fuck NSA scum.
[17:22] <MonkeyDust> derek-g_  great, but no topic for this channel
[17:23] <cfhowlett> derek-g_, family friendly channel = no profanity.  thank you.
[17:23] <TiagoTiago> Is there something like OTR for the audio part of Skype?
[17:23] <SchrodingersScat> vendor lock-in is probably off-topic as well, it's a larger social problem
[17:23] <cfhowlett> TiagoTiago, OTR?
[17:23] <brainyron> like I said, noone
[17:24] <ActionParsnip> brainyron: I dont mind the nsa. Its been going a lomg time and you didnt know about it but you still went to work and the price of bread was unchanged
[17:24] <TiagoTiago> Off The Record; it's a thing for text IM that encrypts the communication in a way that can be easilly decrypted into anything, so they can't prove you said what they get out if they intercept your communication
[17:25] <TiagoTiago> It does a handshake thing with who you're speaking to so that both sides can decrypt the right thing the other can, but without revealing the key to whoever might be intercepting the communication
[17:25] <TiagoTiago> the other said*
[17:26] <expunge> all it really does is protect it while it's transmitted
[17:26] <TiagoTiago> Yeah
[17:26] <expunge> which is y'know, nice
[17:26] <expunge> but don't expect it to keep you from going to jail =)
[17:26] <TiagoTiago> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Off-the-Record_Messaging
[17:27] <TiagoTiago> If either your machine or the machine of who you're talking to is compromised, there isn't much you can do to keep yourself safe
[17:27] <ActionParsnip> TiagoTiago: pidgin has an OTR plugin.
[17:27] <brainyron> ActionParsnip: Didn't know, but smart people long suspected.  Have you seen the Simpsons movie?  They more or less nailed it in parody before anybody "knew"
[17:27] <TiagoTiago> Does it do audio too? And is it compatible with Skype's protocol for audio and/or video?
[17:27] <derek-g_> well - logically at least we can do is strict enfocing selinux and apparmor profile enabled for Skype. Des anyone know if at least that is being done in Ubuntu?
[17:27] <ActionParsnip> brainyron: not seen it, sorry
[17:27] <cfhowlett> or you could restrict yourself to saying idiotic things in person and not over the internet.  oh, wait ...
[17:28] <ActionParsnip> brainyron: nsa can do what they want. I dont care
[17:28] <derek-g_> ActionParsnip, shilling?
[17:28] <Pulock2014> updating my Ubuntu 12.04 lts
[17:28] <ActionParsnip> derek-g_: we don't have those nowadays ;-)
[17:29] <ActionParsnip> Pulock2014: always a good thing
[17:29] <derek-g_> ActionParsnip, I mean - r u being a shill for nsa?
[17:29] <TiagoTiago> If they are allowed to do all that crap they've been doing, they have too much power... I worry it might not even be possible to take that power back now they have it
[17:29] <ActionParsnip> derek-g_: dont know what that is, let me check
[17:29] <aliteralmind> I followed these steps (http://www.howtoforge.com/ssh_key_based_logins_putty_p4) for a no-password SSH key-pair login on Windows 7, but I keep getting "Server refused our key". I added "LogLevel DEBUG3" to /etc/ssh/sshd_config, but I don't know what file it's writing to. Any ideas on fixing the refused key or finding the log file? Thanks.
[17:30] <ActionParsnip> derek-g_: no. I just dont care what they do. Not a shill (nice word btw)
[17:32] <Pulock2014> ActionParsnip, getting a problem with some hardware update something with hardware enablement stack ...i am not being specific....sorry for that
[17:32] <ActionParsnip> Pulock2014: does it say its out of date or something similar?
[17:33] <ActionParsnip> aliteralmind: try http://www.howtoforge.com/ssh_key_based_logins_putty
[17:33] <Pulock2014> ActionParsnip, when i try to update it gives an error message saying stuff about software dependencies ....ten i see the details and i see wine mentioned...
[17:34] <Pulock2014> ActionParsnip, i will give the exact details if the problem persists
[17:34] <ActionParsnip> Pulock2014: can you pastebin the output please
[17:34] <aliteralmind> ActionParsnip: That's exactly the tutorial I went through. :)
[17:36] <ActionParsnip> aliteralmind: all I can suggest is check out some YouTube videos. May shed some light
[17:36] <snappy_> i lost the rirhts to my usb drive and cant get it back, have formatted, and gksudo nautilus but it just changes back to no acsess
[17:37] <aliteralmind> ActionParsnip: Will do. Thanks.
[17:37] <ActionParsnip> snappy_: what filesystem is it usimg?
[17:37] <snappy_> fat 32 and i tryed ext4
[17:37] <Nightwalker_> leave
[17:38] <snappy_> but still wright proteckted
[17:38] <ActionParsnip> snappy_: fat32 wont hold Linux permissions. Can you check which it actually is please
[17:38] <aliteralmind> ActionParsnip: Any idea on how to find which file is being logged to, via "LogLevel DEBUG3" in /etc/ssh/sshd_config?
[17:38] <snappy_> fat 32
[17:38] <ActionParsnip> aliteralmind: /var/log somewhere
[17:39] <aliteralmind> ActionParsnip: Great. :)
[17:39] <ActionParsnip> snappy_: you cannot chmod and chown fat32. Have you ran an fsck on the unmounted filesystem to make sure the data is consistent
[17:39] <bencc> when installing from backports, does it override existing installed package?
[17:40] <bencc> for example, if I have hparoxy installed and I'm calling apt-get install haproxy/trusty-backports
[17:40] <ActionParsnip> snappy_: also, be sure you use the safe removal feature in your OS. Fat32 is not robust
[17:40] <cfhowlett> bencc, no cuz backports won't BE in the current packages
[17:40] <TiagoTiago> "sudo dmraid -ay"  gives me this error: "ERROR: no mapping possible for RAID set isw_bgchiahfbd_Raid5Vol2";  and Raid5Vol2 is exactly where i wanna install Ubuntu. any idea how I can fix that?
[17:40] <bencc> cfhowlett: I don't understand your answer
[17:40] <snappy_> ActionParsnip: how do i run fsck?
[17:40] <bencc> cfhowlett: backports are in the sources by default and allow manuall install
[17:41] <ActionParsnip> snappy_: its a terminal command sudo fsck /dev/fat32partitionnamehere
[17:41] <snappy_> got it one sec
[17:41] <skypce> hello guys
[17:41] <skypce> i am modifying source code of an app with gtk
[17:41] <skypce> i have this problem
[17:41] <skypce> please check
[17:41] <cfhowlett> bencc, 14.04 has a CoolProgram.  I still use 12.04.  There are no plans to release a 12.04 version of CoolProgram but ... if it's in backports, I can get it.
[17:42] <Sven_vB> so i have 2 computers which "lsb_release -sd" both identifies as "Ubuntu 12.04.5 LTS". i aptitude up{d,gr}ate-d both to have the latests package lists, checked the available version of the daemon package (aptitude versions '^daemon$'), both show only 0.6.4-1. then i try to install it… which one machien (which happens to run apt-cacher-ng) does fine, but the other (using that apt-cacher-ng) says it can't verify the package. what can i do to
[17:42] <skypce> http://skypce-sandbox.com/little.png
[17:42] <Sven_vB> help it verify and install?
[17:42] <cfhowlett> bencc, and backports are NOT enabled by default.  You have to explicitly authorize
[17:42] <skypce> i cant change the size of the window?
[17:42] <cfhowlett> IIRC
[17:42] <blarghlarghl> how do i add this ppa? https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/tmux all the other ones have actual ppa names (for example, https://launchpad.net/~pi-rho/+archive/ubuntu/dev has 'ppa:pi-rho/dev') but the official one doesn't.
[17:43] <bencc> cfhowlett: backports are enabled by default but you need to manually install a package from backports
[17:43] <snappy_> ActionParsnip: how can i run it unmounted?
[17:43] <cfhowlett> bencc, OK.
[17:44] <ActionParsnip> snappy_: its no different to how you run it when it is mounted. You must unmount filesystems to fsck them
[17:44] <blarghlarghl> so i'm not sure what its name is :(
[17:45] <cfhowlett> !encryption > cfhowlett
[17:46] <Bombo> hm should 'lxsession-logout' run as root or user?
[17:46] <snappy_> this ois the output fsck from util-linux 2.20.1 dosfsck 3.0.16, 01 Mar 2013, FAT32, LFN /dev/sdb1: 1 files, 1/975495 clusters
[17:47] <snappy_> ActionParsnip: its strange cus i formatted it couple of times
[17:48] <ActionParsnip> snappy_: did you unplug it after the format?
[17:48] <genii> blarghlarghl: If you notice, the tmux versions listed there for specific Ubuntu versions are the same versions reported when you do "apt-cache policy tmux"
[17:48] <snappy_> yep
[17:48] <ActionParsnip> snappy_: did you use the safe remove feature in your OS before physically unplugging it?
[17:48] <genii> blarghlarghl: In other words, there is no ppa name to use because those are the versions which are in the existing repositories
[17:49] <snappy_> well not exaktly every time
[17:49] <Bombo> 'sudo lxsession-logout' works all the time but 'lxsession-logout' doesn't so i guess it must be run as root. but how can i change the 'shutdown' button in lxde to 'sudo' ?
[17:50] <ActionParsnip> snappy_: this is why you are getting issues. Why do you think that feature is in the OS?
[17:50] <snappy_> ActionParsnip: you think i roasted it some how?
[17:51] <snappy_> ActionParsnip: that have crosed my mind :)
[17:51] <MonkeyDust> what's the command again to see all the $VARIABLES?
[17:51] <ActionParsnip> snappy_: no its just not fully synced and such, so the filesystem is marked as 'dirty' so Ubuntu mounts it readonly
[17:51] <ActionParsnip> MonkeyDust: env
[17:51] <roasted> hi hey hello I am here!
[17:51] <ActionParsnip> roasted: howdy
[17:52] <snappy_> ActionParsnip:  oooh.. what can i do about it?
[17:52] <roasted> ActionParsnip: how are ya you handsom devil
[17:52] <ActionParsnip> snappy_: do you have a windows system?
[17:53] <snappy_> ActionParsnip: yes i still do have a xp, what are you thinking?
[17:53] <ovrflw0x> what's wrong with the "upstart" script why is it not running at boot? http://sprunge.us/GFOS
[17:55] <LDX> Is anyone else having a hard time updating Skype on Ubuntu 14.04 64-bit?
[17:56] <ovrflw0x> what's wrong with the "upstart" script why is it not running at boot? http://sprunge.us/GFOS
[17:56] <expunge> LDX: probably someone else is
[17:57] <f00dMonsta__> anyone have an issue with the UI lagging really bad when opening a new window? but normal otherwise?
[17:57] <LDX> I'm not
[17:57] <f00dMonsta__> the entire OS freezes when I open a new window of any sort
[17:58] <LDX> Specs?
[17:58] <f00dMonsta__> only happens sometimes
[17:58] <f00dMonsta__> and fixed if I restart compiz
[17:58] <malsoma> same here
[17:58] <ovrflw0x> what's wrong with the "upstart" script why is it not running at boot? http://sprunge.us/GFOS
[17:58] <LDX> I can't change my cursors from the Gnome black
[17:58] <snappy_> ActionParsnip: il boot into xp and try to format it, tank you so much for you time and expertice
[17:59] <ActionParsnip> snappy_: plug in usb, check the disk for errors then safe remove it and use in Ubuntu
[18:00] <ActionParsnip> f00dMonsta: what is the output of: cat /etc/issue
[18:01] <f00dMonsta__> ActionParsnip: Ubuntu 14.04.1 LTS \n \l
[18:01] <f00dMonsta__> and as a sideeffect, none of my indicators work anymore
[18:02] <ActionParsnip> f00dMonsta: if you use a non-compoziting session like XFCE (install xfce4 package, log off and log in to XFCE) is it ok?
[18:02] <MonkeyDust> f00dMonsta__  i guess it's kernel 3.13 that has fan issues, your device  will heat up too fast, it's what forced me back to 12.04
[18:03] <LDX> $Ubuntu++; Ubuntu rocks!!
[18:03] <ovrflw0x> LDX, why?
[18:03] <LDX> Why??
[18:03] <ovrflw0x> why it rocks?
[18:03] <LDX> Because it's awesome
[18:03] <LDX> O.o
[18:03] <ovrflw0x> for what?
[18:03] <ovrflw0x> in what?
[18:04] <ovrflw0x> what's wrong with the "upstart" script why is it not running at boot? http://sprunge.us/GFOS
[18:04] <LDX> Oh, so you"re one of THOSE people
[18:04] <ovrflw0x> what those?
[18:04] <LDX> Poser ovrflw0x
[18:05] <ovrflw0x> what the feck
[18:05] <f00dMonsta__> ActionParsnip: well I don't know when it occurs, so I'll have to use xfce for an extended period of time to see if it happens...
[18:05] <ovrflw0x> no one's replying about upstart script
[18:05] <ovrflw0x> what's wrong with the "upstart" script why is it not running at boot? http://sprunge.us/GFOS
[18:05] <f00dMonsta__> ActionParsnip: actually, now that I think about it... xchat may be related to it
[18:05] <MonkeyDust> ovrflw0x  as soon as someone can help, they will
[18:05] <Sven_vB> ovrflw0x, no-one replied to my daemon problem as well ;)
[18:06] <f00dMonsta__> ActionParsnip: cos I notice it right away when I start up xchat
[18:06] <expunge> ovrflw0x: why would it run on boot?
[18:06] <ovrflw0x> expunge, for switching to discrete radeon gfx by vgaswitcheroo
[18:06] <expunge> ovrflw0x: no, I mean what makes you think it should run, at boot
[18:06] <ovrflw0x> coz of runlevel
[18:07] <ovrflw0x> start on runlevel [2345]
[18:07] <f00dMonsta__> ActionParsnip: mmm i can't restart unity now... I'm getting a butt load of errors and warnings. No pastebin of it cos it's on tty1
[18:07] <expunge> ovrflw0x: where is the script?
[18:07] <ovrflw0x> /etc/init
[18:08] <ActionParsnip> f00dMonsta: have you tested your RAM using Me,test86 in Grub as well. Just to rule it out as a cause
[18:09] <f00dMonsta__> ActionParsnip: "unity.glib.dbus.server GLibDBusServer.cpp:579 Can't register object 'org.gnome.SessionManager.EndSessionDialog' yet as we don't have a connection, waiting for it..."
[18:09] <ovrflw0x> expunge, now what?
[18:09] <ovrflw0x> expunge, you there bud?
[18:10] <ovrflw0x> yo expunge ... here punge pungi
[18:10] <ovrflw0x> here
[18:10] <expunge> huh?
[18:10] <ovrflw0x> what's wrong with the "upstart" script why is it not running at boot? http://sprunge.us/GFOS cfhowlett <---
[18:11] <f00dMonsta__> ActionParsnip: trying to get as many diagnoising steps done as I can while it's happening, cos it will be fixed after a restart
[18:11] <cfhowlett> ovrflw0x, no idea ... this topic exceeds my limited range of knowledge
[18:11] <f00dMonsta__> ActionParsnip: if nothing else to do I'll do the ram test
[18:11] <blarghlarghl> how do i add this ppa? https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/tmux all the other ones have actual ppa names (for example, https://launchpad.net/~pi-rho/+archive/ubuntu/dev has 'ppa:pi-rho/dev') but the official one doesn't.
[18:12] <trism> blarghlarghl: that's now a ppa, that is the ubuntu source package information
[18:12] <trism> blarghlarghl: so just: sudo apt-get install tmux;
[18:12] <trism> blarghlarghl: now = not
[18:12] <blarghlarghl> ah. heh.
[18:12] <ovrflw0x> expunge, why's that script not running at boot?
[18:13] <blarghlarghl> trism: Oh. Of course. I was wondering why I wasn't getting 1.9.5 there though, but that's for utopic only. Stupid me.
[18:13] <blarghlarghl> trism: thanks. I'll try one of the actual ppas then :)
[18:13] <f00dMonsta__> ok time to restart
[18:14] <ovrflw0x> here expunge
[18:15] <ovrflw0x> what's wrong with the "upstart" script why is it not running at boot? http://sprunge.us/GFOS cfhowlett <---
[18:15] <cfhowlett> ovrflw0x, ?  asked and answered
[18:15] <cfhowlett> IDK
[18:16] <ovrflw0x> by mistake
[18:16] <expunge> ovrflw0x: what makes you think it would run at boot
[18:16] <ovrflw0x> expunge, here punji punji here here expungi
[18:16] <expunge> ...
[18:17] <ovrflw0x> expunge, do  you know wtf upstart script is?
[18:17] <expunge> was nice talking to you, ovrflw0x
[18:17] <ovrflw0x> yeah
[18:21] <ovrflw0x> what's wrong with the "upstart" script why is it not running at boot? http://sprunge.us/GFOS  Anyone?
[18:22] <ActionParsnip> blarghlarghl: sudo add-apt-repository ppa:pi-rho/dev ; sudo apt-get update ; sudo apt-get install tmux
[18:23] <sydney> Why does ubuntu take 15secs to resume from standby? also,when it does resume,my wifi is connected.
[18:24] <TiagoTiago> Enough time has passed, I'll give it another try:
[18:24] <oal_> Hi. I have an Asus router at home that can be used for VPN. I've set it up, and it works well on my Mac (OSX), but not on my Ubuntu computer. I can connect, but it seems to disconnect again immediately. Any ideas?
[18:24] <MonkeyDust> sydney  suspend (to ram) or hibernate (to disk)?
[18:24] <sydney> MonkeyDust: suspend
[18:24] <sydney> suspend = standby IMO :P
[18:25] <Vivekananda> have a very funny situation . there are three computers on my network  a win 8.1 a ubuntu 12.04 and a win 7 ( of a friend) . now the o these three  nos  1 and 2 dont see each other on the network but  1 and 3  are fine and so are 2 and 3 . wonder what is wrong and where . I did edit the /etc/hosts file but deleted the change
[18:25] <ActionParsnip> sydney: depends on the hardware
[18:25] <TiagoTiago> Neither the live USB installer nor the "Try Ubuntu" mode are seeing the second volume of the fakeRAID RAID 5 array where I want to install Ubuntu to; how can I fix it?
[18:25] <MonkeyDust> sydney  first on my mind: make sure you have enough swap
[18:25] <nahtnam> Hey! Im buying a new laptop and I was wondering if I should get a 15.1 inch or 17.3 inch? I will be connecting it to a monitor (screen closed) most of the time, but occasionally taking it out to go to a friends place or what not. What size do you think I should get?
[18:25] <sydney> I do,i have already checked that...
[18:25] <sydney> ActionParsnip: it just started doing it. :-/
[18:25] <bekks> TiagoTiago: Because anything else besides Windows cant deal with Fakeraid. :)
[18:26] <sydney> nahtnam: I like 15,because then the laptops not huge :P
[18:26] <ActionParsnip> Vivekananda: if you edit the dhcp config you can make Ubuntu send its hostname to the router which will update the router properly. May help
[18:26] <bekks> TiagoTiago: The cause is that the FakeRAID manufacturer ships Windows drivers only.
[18:26] <TiagoTiago> Is it really fakeRAID? My mobo box says it got "Intel Rapid Storage Technology", and that is the thing I used to set it up
[18:26] <expunge> Vivekananda: "see"?
[18:26] <nahtnam> sydney: Same here, but my dad is telling me to get the bigger one
[18:26] <nahtnam> so I dont know
[18:26] <Vivekananda> ActionParsnip: thanks.  how do I do it ?
[18:26] <TiagoTiago> Why would the first volume work but not the second though?
[18:26] <bekks> TiagoTiago: That crap is FakeRAID.
[18:27] <ActionParsnip> Vivekananda: edit /etc/dhcp/dhclient.conf
[18:27] <TiagoTiago> I can read and write just fine to the first volume of the array, why would that work but not the second volume in the array?
[18:27] <bekks> TiagoTiago: Dont use FakeRAID. When going to use RAID across multiple operating systems, use a hardware RAID controller.
[18:27] <Vivekananda> expunge: on the  "browse network computers' on ubuntu 12.04 and also on the 'network'  on windows , on click, shows all the network computers that that computer can 'see'
[18:28] <sydney> nahtnam: its your choice. :) What do you like better?
[18:28] <wligtenberg> Would someone be able to help me further with this bug: Ident
[18:28] <wligtenberg> * *** Found your hostname
[18:28] <wligtenberg> * *** No Ident response
[18:28] <wligtenberg> * Welcome to the freenode Internet Relay Chat Network wligtenberg
[18:28] <wligtenberg> * Your host is tepper.freenode.net[192.186.157.43/8001], running version ircd-seven-1.1.3
[18:28] <wligtenberg> * This server was created Sun Jul 20 2014 at 01:18:10 UTC
[18:28] <unopaste> wligtenberg you have been muted for 60 seconds as it looks like you are pasting lots of lines into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com and paste just the URL of your data here when you are unmuted
[18:28] <sydney> ttyl
[18:28] <TiagoTiago> I don't have money right now to buy a card; and even if I could, I'm not sure I got a slot to spare on the mobo
[18:28] <ActionParsnip> wligtenberg: do you have an ident server running?
[18:28] <deids> hii
[18:28] <deids> hii
[18:29] <deids> someone know how to put command output into a variable in python?
[18:29] <wligtenberg> @ActionParsnip, I don't know what you are talking about
[18:29] <Vivekananda> ActionParsnip: http://pastie.org/9458303 what do I change ?
[18:29] <TiagoTiago> There is no solution for my situation other than buying a card and wiping the disks to make a new array?
[18:29] <wligtenberg> @ActionParsnip, that was a copy paster error
[18:29] <MonkeyDust> deids  better ask in the python channel
[18:29] <wligtenberg> Could someone help me with this bug: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/grub-installer/+bug/1354730
[18:29] <ActionParsnip> Vivekananda: line 16....too obvious?
[18:29] <webtux> Hi, does anybody know what the CPU bogomips value stands for ? (cat /proc/cpuinfo|grep bogomips) Thanks
[18:29] <wligtenberg> That was what I wanted to do... :)
[18:30] <deids> MonkeyDust: you cant
[18:30] <MonkeyDust> deids  i can't what?
[18:30] <ActionParsnip> Vivekananda: remove the < and > and the word "hostname" and put the actual ubuntu hostname in
[18:30] <deids> MonkeyDust: send there...
[18:30] <MonkeyDust> deids  register first
[18:31] <ActionParsnip> Vivekananda: if you dont know your hostname, run: hostmame , and use that. You can even copy and paste that text
[18:31] <ActionParsnip> wligtenberg: are you running an ident service?
[18:31] <deids> MonkeyDust: you've been put here because #python requires you to register your nickname with Freenode
[18:32] <ActionParsnip> wligtenberg: sorry missed your earlier response
[18:32] <ActionParsnip> wligtenberg: then you probably arent which is why you get that message. Its nothing to worry about
[18:32] <wligtenberg> ActionParsnip: :) well, if you can help out with why grub won't install during installation, that would be fine too :)
[18:32] <deids> MonkeyDust: i really dont want to register
[18:32] <mpr_> Hello everyone
[18:33] <ActionParsnip> wligtenberg: can you install it manually?
[18:33] <wligtenberg> ActionParsnip: that worked, but now it just boots to a grub commandline... :(
[18:33] <MonkeyDust> deids  that's your choice of course ... try #ubuntu-app-devel
[18:34] <mpr_> I need some help with an odd networking issue: I have installed a USB wifi stick on my Mythbuntu machine. It’s an Edimax 7711usn with a Ralink chipset
[18:34] <ActionParsnip> wligtenberg: omgubuntu has a guide called " sticking it to grub ". You can chroot and put Grub on the MBR
[18:34] <deids> MonkeyDust: i'm here once in a year..
[18:34] <wligtenberg> ActionParsnip: And grub2-common is not installed yet, and as soon as I chroot I lose my network...
[18:34] <mpr_> According to both my router and network-manager on the client, it is now connected
[18:34] <ActionParsnip> wligtenberg: you can use the instal CD for packages
[18:34] <wligtenberg> ActionParsnip: thank you I will check it out
[18:35] <mpr_> But neither can I access it from another machine, nor does it have internet access
[18:35] <ActionParsnip> mpr_: run: lsusb , you can use the 8 character hex id to find guides
[18:35] <wligtenberg> ActionParsnip: Did I mention I am doing this with ubuntu-server?
[18:36] <ActionParsnip> wligtenberg: same deal.
[18:36] <mpr_> ActionParsnip: ID 7392:7711
[18:36] <mpr_> I already found guides that say in some cases wrong or duplicate modules will be loaded. I have blacklisted those accordingly
[18:36] <wligtenberg> ActionParsnip: Does that also work with usb image?
[18:38] <deids> facebook kill every irc channel :-(   in 2009 the irc was full with nice people now it's all empty rooms
[18:39] <wligtenberg> deids, been here much? It is quite full most of the time
[18:39] <sudormrf> Hey guys.  I am trying to figure out why nagios isn't sending alerts.  sent a test email from the cli with postfix and it was delivered fine, but nagios isn't sending alerts :S.  I am sure it is something simple that I am missing.  If anyone is around that could help me figure it out it would be much appreciated :)
[18:40] <deids> wligtenberg: no.. here people in and out every sec.. there is no conversion...
[18:41] <deids> wligtenberg:  i have 9 rooms open - here and ubuntu uk are the only live rooms.
[18:42] <bjorkintosh> deids, it's a weekend. people have lives these days.
[18:42] <wligtenberg> and holidays for a lot of people...
[18:42] <bjorkintosh> thanks to their smartphone apps  keeping them deeply social and local :)
[18:42] <deids> what holidays?
[18:42] <bjorkintosh> summer holidays.
[18:43] <esteban19> i hacçve problems to read a CD-RW disc, thats my dmesg | tail http://pastebin.com/ASnpuZJf
[18:44] <esteban19> apparently, i had not close the burn...
[18:44] <deids> ok.. i can undestand that.. but if you have 1000 pepole in the room and you get answer after 30 min - it's problem/..
[18:44] <serviscope_minor> hi I'm having trouble with an ubuntu install. I have a broken install of 14.01. I'm now reinstalling. However, it doesn't seem to give be the option of keeping /home without also having 2 copies of 14.04 installed
[18:45] <AndroidLoverInSF> anyone know an easy way have multiple VMs share the same network, i want to test a 2 or 3 server jboss cluster, seems like 3 virtual box VMs may be too much overhead? is virtual box good for that or xen or something else
[18:46] <kostkon> serviscope_minor, did you have a separate partition for /home on your first install?
[18:46] <serviscope_minor> no no separate /home
[18:46] <absk007> does Ubuntu uses upstart or init?
[18:46] <kostkon> serviscope_minor, I'm guessing you've just answered your own question
[18:47] <serviscope_minor> kostkon: no, not really.
[18:47] <serviscope_minor> I heard that ubuntu was meant to have this feature where it keeps the files now.
[18:47] <serviscope_minor> so there is no need for sarcastic comments.
[18:47] <ovrflw0x> this 3.13 kernel is BUGGY with vgaswitcheroo what to do?
[18:49] <TiagoTiago> Hm, perhaps I could remove the second volume and resize the first volume, then partition it and that way Ubuntu will see two disks? There  is no way to avoid having to wipe the contents is there? I already spent a couple of days setting up Windows before finding out Ubuntu wouldn't see the second volume....
[18:49] <kostkon> serviscope_minor, I wasn't trying to be sarcastic. anyway, no, you need to go into advanced mode and create a new partition for your /home yourself.
[18:50] <serviscope_minor> kostkon: wouldn't that erase /home?
[18:50] <nintendofan> I'm trying to install syslinux to a USB flash drive. I followed according to the syslinux wiki and downloaded and extracted the current syslinux release. However, when I run ./syslinux -i /dev/sdc I get this: /dev/sdc: invalid media signature (not a FAT/NTFS volume?)
[18:50] <serviscope_minor> hm
[18:50] <serviscope_minor> what about deleting everything but /home and not formatting the partition for the install
[18:50] <nintendofan> And I know for sure that the filesystem on /dev/sdc1 is a FAT volume.
[18:51] <ovrflw0x> how to change the default mirror in ubuntu?
[18:51] <viper474> nintendofan: so did you try with the 1 at the end?
[18:52] <kostkon> serviscope_minor, not possible. you need to backup your data and then modify your paritions.  resize your / , create a new partition for /home, then proceed with the installation.
[18:52] <ActionParsnip> wligtenberg: yes
[18:52] <serviscope_minor> kostkon: sorry the comment souded a bit sarcy. Tone is hard to judge on IRC. I apologise.
[18:52] <kostkon> serviscope_minor, np
[18:52] <serviscope_minor> kostkon: I mean why do I need a /home on a separate partition?
[18:52] <serviscope_minor> apart that it makes reinstallation easier
[18:52] <nintendofan> viper474: Looks like that worked.
[18:53] <viper474> nintendofan: cool. simple. =P
[18:53] <kostkon> serviscope_minor, it's your choice. it will make any future (re)installations easier
[18:54] <viper474> nintendofan: the sdc is the device, sdc1 is the partition. :)
[18:54] <serviscope_minor> true, though I've found on space constrained laptops, I end up either running out of space on / or /home
[18:54] <ovrflw0x> what's the latest ubuntu kernel available?
[18:54] <Basketball> !grub_repair
[18:54] <viper474> ovrflw0x: kernel.org 3.16 stable
[18:54] <Basketball> !grub
[18:55] <ovrflw0x> viper474, i asked for ubuntu
[18:55] <TiagoTiago> I'm gonna try something, might be back later. Cya
[18:55] <mpr_> ActionParsnip: So it could be something with conflicting modules. But in that case, would everything look fine both on the router and on network-manager (as well as iwconfig)
[18:55] <serviscope_minor> well  time to try it :)
[18:55] <ovrflw0x> i have 14.04.1 and which latest kernel i can upgrade it to?
[18:56] <genii> !info linux-image trusty
[18:56] <genii> !info linux-image-generic trusty
[18:56] <ovrflw0x> !info kernel
[18:57] <ovrflw0x> genii, is there anyway i can install 3.15 kernel on trusty?
[18:57] <genii> ovrflw0x: 3.13 as above. If you feel adventurous though you can install the mainline kernel
[18:57] <genii> !mainline | ovrflw0x
[18:57] <Guido1> hello, i have a computer with 1210 MHz and 1,7 GB RAM. I want to watch some movies with it from either an USB stick or local network. In the moment I have ubuntu 10.04 with VLC and it works fine until films have a size of 1 GB or more. What can I do so that I can watch bigger movies? I thought about a different linux.
[18:58] <genii> Guido1: What happens when you play something more than 1G ?
[18:58] <ovrflw0x> genii, what's wrong with this "upstart" script? http://sprunge.us/GFOS it's not running during boot!
[18:59] <genii> ovrflw0x: Sorry, I'm not currently in the mood to debug scripts today
[18:59] <Aaron> hi i have a question i just install Ubuntu right i have windows 8 but every time i want grub to boot; i have to press f9 and boot from the h/d can someone help me?
[18:59] <Guido1> genii: the sound and pictures doesn't match if I use parole or VLC. in one case the pictures are fine, but the text not. in the other case the text is fine, but the pictures have a signiificant delay - you see how the pictures build up
[18:59] <Aaron> so i can boot directly with grub
[18:59] <ovrflw0x> genii, it's really small script only few lines
[19:00] <kostkon> Guido1, it starts lagging you mean
[19:00] <genii> ovrflw0x: Talk to me Monday :) I just got back from vacation
[19:00] <Guido1> kostkon: yes
[19:01] <ovrflw0x> Anyone? , what's wrong with this "upstart" script? http://sprunge.us/GFOS it's not running during boot!
[19:01] <kostkon> Guido1, actually, is it server or desktop 10.04?
[19:01] <ovrflw0x> genii, can you tell in which kernel version did "vgaswitcheroo" bug got fixed?
[19:01] <Guido1> kostkon: schould be desktop
[19:02] <genii> ovrflw0x: No, but you could scan the trusty-changes mailing list archive for clues.
[19:02] <kostkon> Guido1, it's not supported anymore. you could try upgrading to 12.04. 1.2GHz and 1.7GB RAM is not that bad
[19:02] <genii> ( unless it's some version later than 3.13 I guess)
[19:02] <sudormrf> Hey guys.  I am trying to figure out why nagios isn't sending alerts.  sent a test email from the cli with postfix and it was delivered fine, but nagios isn't sending alerts :S.  I am sure it is something simple that I am missing.  If anyone is around that could help me figure it out it would be much appreciated :)
[19:02]  * genii goes to make more coffee
[19:02] <x9> Hello, I'm running Xubuntu 14.04, and I'm thinking of trying the Cinnamon environment. How can I move from Xfce to Cinnamon?
[19:03] <kostkon> Guido1, it might even fix the issue
[19:03] <Guido1> kostkon: yes, but the newer vesrions need more RAM and CPU so I expect that it is getting worth
[19:04] <kostkon> Guido1, upgrade, then install the lubuntu or xubuntu matapackage to get the respective desktops
[19:05] <Guido1> kostkon: okee, will think about it - upgarde is quite easy, downgarde not
[19:05] <kostkon> Guido1, downgrade to what? 8.04? :X
[19:05] <Guido1> kostkon: after an upgrade back to what I have now
[19:06] <kostkon> Guido1, there is also gnome fallback in 12.04 or whatever is called these days
[19:06] <mpr_> So I can ping the router, but not another machine on the network
[19:07] <kostkon> Guido1, and unity2d. i.e. many available options
[19:07] <Guido1> kostkon:  by the way, I'm watching via an old TV with composiet
[19:07] <kostkon> Guido1, interesting. how's the image quality
[19:08] <Guido1> kostkon: depends on the movie. quite good
[19:08] <x9> How do I install Cinnamon instead of Xfce?
[19:08] <kostkon> Guido1, the higher the res and compression the better i guess
[19:09] <Guido1> most movies are flv ;-) some few mp4 and mkv
[19:09] <kostkon> Guido1, flv lol
[19:10] <Guido1> that's what you get easy
[19:11] <Basketball> how do i add rpo deb http://repository.spotify.com stable non-free via terminakl
[19:14] <x9> Basketball: do sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list and add that line at the end of the document
[19:14] <Basketball> x9,  no from terminal like apt-get-repository --add something like that
[19:15] <genii> Basketball: Better not to add foreign repos directly to the main sources.list like that. Do something more like: echo "deb http://repository.spotify.com stable non-free" | sudo tee -a /etc/apt/sources.list.d/spotify.list
[19:21] <x9> I want to go from Xubuntu back to pure Ubuntu. I'm trying the terminal command at psychocats/Ubuntucat, but I'm getting a lot of packages not located
[19:21] <Justanick> Hello, what exactly does "unsupported" mean in combination with ubuntu-support-status?
[19:22] <brainyron> If you run into problems, you're on your own
[19:22] <brainyron> basically
[19:22] <Pici> !eol
[19:23] <Justanick> eol for Ubuntu 14.04?
[19:23] <OerHeks> You didn't mention 14.04 Justanick
[19:23] <genii> Justanick: With specific packages that show unsupported status, they have usually been installed from a third party repository.
[19:24] <genii> ( although some in official repos are unsupported because they are being either phased out or they have been unmaintained for a while)
[19:24] <brainyron> http://lmbtfy.com/?q=eol+for+Ubuntu+14.04
[19:25] <OerHeks> please no let me google that for you links, thanks
[19:25] <kostkon> Justanick, wanna paste them? ubuntu-support-status --show-all
[19:25] <Justanick> genii: That is the list of packages. http://codepad.org/h0WVqJ5Z
[19:25] <Justanick> kostkon:
[19:25] <Justanick> http://codepad.org/h0WVqJ5Z
[19:26] <kostkon> Justanick, and when does the support end for those
[19:26] <genii> Justanick: If you do apt-cache policy <packagename> on any of those, you can see if you installed them from a third party repository like PPA, or if they are in official repos but still unsupported
[19:26] <IdleOne> !lmgtfy | brainyron
[19:27] <IdleOne> Please don't give lmgtfy links either
[19:27] <x9> How can I remove Xubuntu to go back to pure Ubuntu? (Running 14.04.1)
[19:28] <genii> x9: Usually something like sudo apt-get purge xubuntu-desktop && sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[19:28] <Justanick> genii: http://de.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ trusty/universe amd64 Packages
[19:28] <Justanick> For a boost lib package as example
[19:29] <Justanick> kostkon: The packages are listed as not supported
[19:29] <kostkon> Justanick, hmm
[19:30] <genii> Justanick: So that one is in offical repos but unsupported. To find out why it would be unsupported, you'd either have to scan the trusty-changes mailing list archive for libboost change logs, or possibly ask on the same list why it's unsupported. Usually if they are planning to make a major version change also, the old version will become unsupported.
[19:31] <Guest38241> heloo :D
[19:32] <mpr_> I am trying to blacklist some modules by adding them to /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist.conf, but they are still being loaded
[19:32] <sudormrf> Hey guys.  I am trying to figure out why nagios isn't sending alerts.  sent a test email from the cli with postfix and it was delivered fine, but nagios isn't sending alerts :S.  I am sure it is something simple that I am missing.  If anyone is around that could help me figure it out it would be much appreciated :)
[19:32] <mpr_> I also did update-initramfs -u afterwards
[19:34] <genii> mpr_: Maybe check in /etc/modules if their name is in there
[19:34] <ovrflw0x> genii, what's the meaning of this? http://sprunge.us/PegL
[19:34] <Justanick> genii: Are security updates still supplied for the unsupported versions?
[19:34] <absk007> can you post your bash PS1 if it's multiline with Git support?
[19:35] <genii> ovrflw0x: It looks like you just downloaded some later kernel version deb file and directly used dpkg on it.
[19:35] <Justanick> How can I be sure, that all the installed package will get security updates? 14.04
[19:35] <OerHeks> ovrflw0x, why install the headers by a non-ubuntu-header deb ?
[19:35] <ovrflw0x> i installed the kernel then tried to install the headers for that kernel
[19:35] <OerHeks> ovrflw0x, just use this:  sudo apt-get install linux-headers-$(uname -r)
[19:36] <genii> Justanick: Depends if they are unsupported because not being maintined, or if they are unsupported because a newer version is out soon.
[19:36] <viper474> Justanick: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LTS
[19:36] <ovrflw0x> genii, yes so what to do?
[19:36] <genii> Justanick: Security updates are almost always supplied for any version, however, if they are available.
[19:36] <genii> ovrflw0x: What repository did you get the deb from?
[19:37] <ovrflw0x> genii, http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/v3.15.6-utopic/
[19:37] <Justanick> Thanks so far
[19:37] <genii> ovrflw0x: Add the ppa, instead of downloading individual files from the ppa
[19:37] <ovrflw0x> okay later, but now what to do ? how to install the headers genii
[19:39] <OerHeks> sudo apt-add-repository ppa:kernel-ppa/ppa && sudo apt-get update
[19:41] <ovrflw0x> OerHeks, now what to do? how to install headers
[19:41] <OerHeks> ovrflw0x, then:  sudo apt-get install linux-headers-$(uname -r)
[19:41] <ovrflw0x> OerHeks, i just installed 3.15.6 kernel and i'm not running it
[19:42] <ovrflw0x> i want to install the headers so that when i boot into 3.15.6 it automatically compiles the wifi driver otherwise i won't be able to connect to internet
[19:42] <ovrflw0x> OerHeks, ^
[19:42] <OerHeks> how did you install that kernel ?
[19:42] <palasso> Hello, could somebody tell me what's the default port in Transmission-gtk for ubuntu 14.04?
[19:42] <OerHeks> downloaded from this ppa or kernel.org?
[19:42] <ovrflw0x> OerHeks, dpkg -i kernel
[19:43] <ovrflw0x> from here OerHeks http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/v3.15.6-utopic/
[19:43] <ovrflw0x> OerHeks, Fetched 1,276 kB in 1min 1s (20.8 kB/s)
[19:43] <ovrflw0x> W: Failed to fetch http://ppa.launchpad.net/kernel-ppa/ppa/ubuntu/dists/trusty/main/binary-amd64/Packages  404  Not Found
[19:43] <ovrflw0x> now what
[19:43] <genii> ovrflw0x: If you ran the commands OerHeks gave you, you should be able to install the newer 3.15 kernel now from apt-get instead of manually with the dpkg like you were trying earlier
[19:44] <hamid> hi
[19:44] <ovrflw0x> genii, should i remove the dpkg -i kernel?
[19:45] <Guest71525>    hi
[19:45] <Guest71525> hiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii
[19:45] <ovrflw0x> hey Guest71525
[19:46] <genii> ovrflw0x: It likely didn't get installed. But to make sure, you should run: sudo apt-get -f install
[19:46] <Guest71525> r u ok
[19:46] <ovrflw0x> yes how r u
[19:46] <OerHeks> ovrflw0x, ahh i see, are you on 14.04 or utopic 14.04 ?
[19:46] <Guest71525> tnx
[19:46] <Guest71525> how old r u
[19:46] <genii> Guest71525: This is the Ubuntu support channel.
[19:46] <palasso> Hello, could somebody please tell me what's the default port in Transmission-gtk for Ubuntu 14.04?
[19:46] <ovrflw0x> OerHeks, 14.04.1 lts
[19:46] <kostkon> !topic | Guest71525, first thing to do after joining a channel
[19:46] <genii> Guest71525: For casual talk not asking support questions, you should go to #ubuntu-offtopic and not here
[19:47] <ovrflw0x> OerHeks, now what to do?
[19:47] <OerHeks> either way, that ppa is empty
[19:47] <Guest71525> ok
[19:47] <Guest71525> sorry
[19:47] <ovrflw0x> OerHeks, so then how to update the kernel?
[19:48] <MrDoctor> I just installed ubuntu 14.04 in my computer.  I see characters like . or " in the titlebar appearing as an [x]. How do I fix it?
[19:49] <ovrflw0x> OerHeks, you there bud?
[19:49] <genii> ovrflw0x: You could go back to trying download/dpkg once more. The latest mainline kernel and headers for Trusty though are at http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/v3.15-rc2-trusty/
[19:49] <cwonrails> Ubuntu mastermen: I've been running Ubuntu on my Acer C720, my Macbook 15 inch Retina in VMware, and on my old Macbook - should I get a separate comp for Linux, and if so what are your suggestions?
[19:49] <genii> ovrflw0x: The ones you tries earlier were from a Utopic branch and not Trusty
[19:51] <ovrflw0x> genii, how to remove that kernel now?
[19:51] <onat> is there some program on linux that is missing? Like some really good app that is not available on ubuntu?
[19:51] <OerHeks> ovrflw0x, and on http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/v3.15-rc2-trusty/ there is no 3.15.6, only 3.15-rc2
[19:52] <OerHeks> so you messed up
[19:52] <genii> ovrflw0x: I already told you, it's probably not installed because it ran into dependency issues. But to clean up the installed/non-installed lists of things, you should do: sudo apt-get -f install
[19:52] <ovrflw0x> what to type instead of install?
[19:52] <delt> Hello
[19:52] <delt> how do i tell which PPA a package is from, eg. one found by "apt-cache search" ?
[19:52] <genii> OerHeks: Yes, I didn't catch it earlier that they tried a 14.10 kernel package instead of a 14.04
[19:53] <delt> preferably from the command line
[19:53] <SchrodingersScat> delt: does apt-cache show bring anything up?
[19:54] <genii> delt: apt-cache policy
[19:54] <ovrflw0x> genii, -f flag is not listing the 3.15.6 kernel!
[19:54] <OerHeks> problem now is, did the utopic kernel really install ..
[19:54] <OerHeks> ah
[19:54] <ovrflw0x> yes
[19:54] <genii> ovrflw0x: You don't use something like sudo apt-get -f install <some-package-name>    you just do: sudo apt-get -f install   ( to clean up the lists)
[19:55] <delt> SchrodingersScat: nice nick (: from the apt-cache manpage i see "showpkg" command
[19:55] <genii> Please don't improvise commands, it makes it a headache to sort out.
[19:55] <delt> genii: thanks (:
[19:55] <MrDoctor> I just installed ubuntu 14.04 in my computer.  I see characters like . or " in the titlebar appearing as an [x]. How do I fix it?
[19:55] <genii> delt: You're welcome!
[19:56] <delt> genii: ....except it doesn't show me which ppa :(
[19:56] <delt> MrDoctor: characters where?
[19:56] <genii> delt: What problem are you more exactly having?
[19:57] <delt> genii: i'd like to know which PPA a package comes from, using the command line.
[19:57] <OerHeks> ovrflw0x, wget those 2 correct files from http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/v3.15-rc2-trusty/ and use dpkg -i to install them, i think grub2 will be updated buy you can check that out.
[19:57] <ovrflw0x> OerHeks, i remove utopic kernel, but i want 3.15.6 kernel not 3.15.2 for trusty, how to get it?
[19:57] <kostkon> delt, apt-cache policy package_name
[19:57] <ovrflw0x> removed*
[19:58] <delt> genii: the two commands listed above (apt-cache showpkg and apt-cache policy) show much information, but not the ppa/universe/multiverse source...
[19:58] <genii> delt: apt-cache policy <packagename> WILL tell you. For instance, I have freecad from ppa and it reports:   500 http://ppa.launchpad.net/freecad-maintainers/freecad-daily/ubuntu/ trusty/main amd64 Packages
[19:58] <MrDoctor> mpr, minimized windows display these [x] like characters where the " or . characters appear in the titlebar names. I am using ubuntu 14.04, unity.
[19:58] <OerHeks> there is no 3.15.6
[19:58] <genii> delt: So it's not from ubuntu repos, but a ppa
[19:59] <MrDoctor> This is an absolutely fresh installation, mpr. I installed the amd64 14.0.1 dvd.
[19:59] <delt> genii: ah, i see for ubuntu repos it does, but i'd like to find which ppa "carla-git" comes from.
[19:59] <genii> ovrflw0x: The latest kernel that there is for Trusty is 3.15.2  ... 3.15.6 for Trusty is not available yet.
[20:00] <delt> genii: i installed it from the kxstudio ppa's, but i'd like to be able to check for other packages as well, which ppa they come from.
[20:00] <ovrflw0x> genii, wtf is utopic kernel?
[20:00] <genii> delt: What does apt-cache policy carla-git    ...report?
[20:00] <OerHeks> trusty 14.04 lts <> utopic 14.10 alfa
[20:00] <genii> ovrflw0x: Please watch your language, even swearing in acronym is not appreciated here.
[20:01] <delt> genii: http://www.deimos.ca/miscjunk/carla-git.txt
[20:01] <ovrflw0x> genii, that's too restrictive
[20:01] <kostkon> delt, http://ppa.launchpad.net/ubuntu-sdk-team/ppa/ubuntu/ precise/main comes from http://ppa.launchpad.net/ubuntu-sdk-team/ppa/ubuntu/ precise/main. do the same for your ppa
[20:01] <genii> ovrflw0x: utopic is the next version AFTER trusty, but it is in development and not released
[20:01] <OerHeks> ovrflw0x, you cannot mix, as apt-get does not proceed, forcing it is not what you want.
[20:01] <kostkon> delt, sorry i meant http://ppa.launchpad.net/ubuntu-sdk-team/ppa/ubuntu/ precise/main  ->   https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-sdk-team/+archive/ubuntu/ppa
[20:01] <OerHeks> ovrflw0x, else you can try 14.10 alfa, but that could be a bumpy ride
[20:01] <ovrflw0x> genii, are you moderator of this channel?
[20:02] <MonkeyDust> ovrflw0x  what you want, is not supported in this channel
[20:02] <ovrflw0x> huh?
[20:02] <genii> delt: When you see that result, it means either the ppa you installed it from was removed already, or else it was manually installed with dpkg -i
[20:02] <genii> ovrflw0x: Yes.
[20:02] <ovrflw0x> ok
[20:02] <delt> genii: ah i see. thanks very much for the info.
[20:03] <delt> kostkon: thanks for the info as well.
[20:03] <genii> delt: No problem
[20:03] <kostkon> delt, np
[20:03] <ovrflw0x> OerHeks, how can i go from 14.01.1LTS to 14.10 alfa?
[20:03] <ovrflw0x> OerHeks, how can i go from 14.04.1LTS to 14.10 alfa?
[20:04] <MonkeyDust> ovrflw0x  if you have to ask that, you shouldnt do it
[20:04] <Nordom> Hello, I am looking to setup Xen in ubuntu. Ideally I want to make a windows VM. The guide I am using is fedora. I could use a little help with it and/or be pointed at a guide that will help me setup Xen up on ubuntu
[20:05] <MrDoctor> Read the Gentoo or Archwiki page for it Nordom . You've come to the wrong place.
[20:05] <genii> ovrflw0x: If you go to Utopic Alpha, you will not be able to get support in this channel until October when it is in official release
[20:05] <delt> ok, thanks everyone for your help!
[20:07] <genii> ovrflw0x: If you still want to go to Utopic and don't want support, then sudo do-release-upgrade -d
[20:08] <MonkeyDust> ovrflw0x  after that, it will be you advicing other people not to do it
[20:08] <ovrflw0x> genii, http://paste.ubuntu.com/8001473/ OerHeks
[20:09] <OerHeks> ovrflw0x, there is a #ubuntu+1 channel for comming releases
[20:09] <genii> ovrflw0x: Install the kernel first
[20:10] <OerHeks> genii +1
[20:10] <ovrflw0x> genii, will installing 3.15.2 automatically update the wifi driver also ? when i boot into that new kernel?
[20:11] <kostkon> ovrflw0x, if it is dkms capable/aware, then yes
[20:11] <ovrflw0x> genii, i get same "dependency" error even though i installed kernel image first!!
[20:12] <genii> ovrflw0x: No. Your wifi driver is whatever came with Trusty. But if it was some kernel issue that prevented the driver from working and it was fixed in that kernel, then it won't matter
[20:13] <genii> ovrflw0x: The 3.15.2 kernel deb installed OK ?
[20:13] <ovrflw0x> genii, http://paste.ubuntu.com/8001499/ yes installed
[20:13] <genii> Use sudo
[20:14] <genii> ovrflw0x: ^
[20:14] <ovrflw0x> genii, i did
[20:14] <genii> afk phone
[20:14] <ovrflw0x> OerHeks, ?
[20:15] <genii> ovrflw0x: Looks like it has some circular dependency to itself. Use the --force-depends  option
[20:16] <ovrflw0x> genii, http://paste.ubuntu.com/8001537/
[20:17] <genii> ovrflw0x: syntax is: sudo dpkg -i --force-depends linux-headers-3.15.0-031500rc2-generic_3.15.0-031500rc2.201404201435_amd64.deb
[20:18] <OerHeks> it is complaining for the rc package
[20:18] <ovrflw0x> genii, http://paste.ubuntu.com/8001552/ <-- Still
[20:20] <genii> ovrflw0x: Looks like the Trusty version of dkms doesn't like the mainline kernel
[20:20] <hans69> hi guys
[20:20] <ovrflw0x> still it's named trusty!???
[20:20] <expunge> hi hans
[20:21] <hans69> hi
[20:21] <ovrflw0x> hey
[20:21] <hans69> i have a question
[20:21] <ovrflw0x> oka sk
[20:21] <Rayaan> i have a windows 8 64 bit laptop with uefi secure boot - is there an easy way to install ubuntu and completely remove windows? i just want to boot into a gnu/linux os as i always have
[20:21] <expunge> Rayaan: most likely
[20:21] <expunge> hans69: prove it
[20:21] <ovrflw0x> genii, so what are my options now?
[20:21] <hans69> i have ubuntu with ambiance dark how can i make spotify the same
[20:21] <expunge> Rayaan: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UEFI
[20:22] <genii> ovrflw0x: You are still running Trusty, yes. The idea here I think was you needed a later kernel because of your wifi than what came with Trusty. But installing a later kernel does not change the version of Ubuntu that you using under that.
[20:22] <ovrflw0x> genii, vgaswitcheroo is buggy in 3.13.x kernel
[20:23] <genii> wifi/video/other-hardware  etc
[20:23] <ovrflw0x> genii, so what to do now?
[20:23] <genii> ovrflw0x: What's in the error log of /var/lib/dkms/bcmwl/6.30.223.141+bdcom/build/make.log
[20:23] <ovrflw0x> switch to some other distro?
[20:23] <kostkon> hans69, latest spotify comes with a black theme
[20:24] <kostkon> hans69, is your install 64bit or 32bit?
[20:24] <genii> ovrflw0x: If you switched to another distribution it would make our lives as helpers easier! ;) But we should see whats in the log.
[20:24] <ovrflw0x> genii, http://paste.ubuntu.com/8001599/
[20:24] <hans69> ok but i cant read the search good
[20:25] <hans69> the tekst is almost the same as the background
[20:25] <ovrflw0x> genii, did you see log?
[20:25] <hans69> how can i solf this
[20:26] <genii> ovrflw0x: Yes. I'm thinking.
[20:27] <ovrflw0x> genii, it reaches dkms and find headers not present
[20:27] <ovrflw0x> finds
[20:27] <genii> ovrflw0x: The headers ARE present. The Makefile is missing.
[20:28] <ovrflw0x> genii, lol what kinda drunk people upload such kernel stuff
[20:28] <daskdt> d
[20:28] <ovrflw0x> b
[20:29] <genii> ovrflw0x: Give me a while. I'm examining the contents of http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/v3.15-rc2-trusty/linux-headers-3.15.0-031500rc2-generic_3.15.0-031500rc2.201404201435_amd64.deb
[20:29] <daskdt> Every time I install ubuntu my sound level on my laptop maxes out lower.
[20:29] <daskdt> Any tricks to amp volume output?
[20:29] <clark> hi all, can somebody explain to me what is going on here? why do grep only take 3 files and not all 4 ?   https://gist.github.com/anonymous/7a0ed180249b225ab12b
[20:29] <daskdt> Inbuilt speakers on my ultrabook
[20:30] <expunge> clark: what're you trying to do?
[20:31] <expunge> daskdt: mplayer -af volume=20
[20:31] <expunge> daskdt: make sure pcm is up
[20:31] <clark> expunge, I just got this weird behavior sometimes then I try to use "grep" to search for files,  like in this example it don't find the first folder
[20:31] <daskdt> expunge: Thank you but will that fix things globally?
[20:32] <expunge> clark: what are you searching for, and in what files do you want to search?
[20:32] <expunge> daskdt: nope
[20:32] <Ben64> clark: it probably has something to do with modifications you've done to your shell and/or grub or you aren't on ubuntu
[20:32] <expunge> doesn't really look like you're using grep properly
[20:32] <clark> I made this gist to illustrate the problem  https://gist.github.com/anonymous/7a0ed180249b225ab12b
[20:33] <daskdt> I'm a noob please bear with me, is PCM global? Linux is always quieter across the board than Win8 on my laptop and its weird.
[20:33] <expunge> clark: that just makes me think you aren't using grep properly
[20:33] <daskdt> expunge: ^^
[20:33] <kostkon> daskdt, have you already tried checking your volume levels in alsamixer. PulseAudio controls yours pcm and master, maxing out all the others but it may have missed some.
[20:33] <expunge> daskdt: yes
[20:33] <genii> ovrflw0x: Please pastebin results of: ls -l /usr/src/linux-headers*
[20:33] <kostkon> daskdt, make sure everything is 100% and more importantly not muted
[20:34] <ovrflw0x> genii, http://paste.ubuntu.com/8001674/
[20:35] <daskdt> sudo apt-get alsamixer
[20:35] <daskdt> ?
[20:35] <expunge> daskdt: you already have it
[20:35] <daskdt> When I search in unity is just comes up with a reference image
[20:35] <expunge> daskdt: it's a terminal app
[20:35] <SchrodingersScat> clark: when you put a pattern, it shows internalTest1
[20:35] <SchrodingersScat> clark: er, insideTest1
[20:36] <kostkon> daskdt, it's a command line app and as such it lacks a desktop file and as a result it is not visible in the dash
[20:36] <daskdt> Thanks is there a !google search bot function in here?
[20:37] <expunge> daskdt: there is indeed
[20:37] <genii> Weird, those are all circular symlinks
[20:37] <kostkon> daskdt, there is a bot, but it does not offer that
[20:37] <daskdt> kostkon:
[20:37] <expunge> daskdt: http://www.google.com/
[20:37] <SchrodingersScat> clark: I think it might be accepting the first folder as the pattern, and then trying to grep the other directories., for example if you make directories 'a' 'b' 'c' then glob the grep with * then it says b and c are directories
[20:38] <expunge> SchrodingersScat: what is the string he's grepping for?
[20:38] <SchrodingersScat> expunge: he's not.
[20:39] <daskdt> kostkon: it all looks right.. I tried "allow louder than 100%" and that helped a little
[20:39] <kostkon> daskdt, open the terminal and give:  alsamixer    or first give:  man alsamixer   to find out about the available shortcuts you can use while in the app.  press q to quit the man page
[20:39] <expunge> SchrodingersScat: so what are you talking about? =P
[20:39] <SchrodingersScat> expunge: I think that's the root of his problem.  misuse of grep
[20:40] <Ben64> SchrodingersScat: on my systems, grep doesn't act like that though
[20:40] <clark> SchrodingersScat,  yes, you are right!
[20:40] <ovrflw0x> yo genii you lost or something?
[20:40] <daskdt> kostkon: thanks a lot
[20:40] <expunge> SchrodingersScat: uhuh
[20:41] <Guest86503> hi
[20:41] <expunge> hi guest
[20:41] <Guest86503> i want to know someting
[20:41] <Guest86503> how to use aircrack-ng on linux mint
[20:42] <Ben64> Guest86503: mint is not supported here, sorry
[20:42] <Ben64> Guest86503: their support channel is #linuxmint-help on irc.spotchat.org
[20:42] <daskdt> Anyone here play Tribes Ascend?
[20:42] <SchrodingersScat> expunge/Ben64: the syntax as far as I know it is 'grep pattern files' so if he's entering "grep directory1 directory2 .." then are you saying grep won't take directory1 as the pattern?
[20:42] <expunge> SchrodingersScat: that isn't what he's entering...
[20:43] <SchrodingersScat> it was grep in*
[20:43] <genii> ovrflw0x: Normally you have some dir like: /usr/src/linux-headers-<major-version>-<minor-version> where the the symlinks for Makefile (as example) point to /usr/src/linux-headers-<major-version>      but in this case they just wrap around back to themselves and there is no /usr/src/linux-headers-3.15  directory they would normally point to
[20:43] <genii> ovrflw0x: So it's a bit confusing, yes.
[20:43] <expunge> SchrodingersScat: yes, I saw
[20:43] <ovrflw0x> genii, so ubuntu is crappy distro?
[20:43] <genii> ovrflw0x: Why you diss us?
[20:44] <SchrodingersScat> expunge: http://mywiki.wooledge.org/glob?action=show&redirect=globbing
[20:44] <expunge> SchrodingersScat: man grep
[20:44] <OerHeks> ovrflw0x, crappy hw-driver for your device.
[20:45] <SchrodingersScat> expunge: and what are you trying to show me?
[20:45] <genii> ovrflw0x: What it means is that when you try to cram a kernel that wasn't supplied with your distribution into it, there will be unexpected issues. (ubuntu or not ubuntu)
[20:45] <expunge> SchrodingersScat: man grep
[20:46] <ovrflw0x> genii, but the 3.13.x kernel that came with it doesn't have vgaswitcheroo working nicely
[20:46] <ovrflw0x> it's buggy
[20:46] <genii> ovrflw0x: So the main issue here is that whatever hardware you have that requires vgaswitcheroo to work is not linux-friendly
[20:47] <genii> ( and not that linux is not itself friendly)
[20:47] <ovrflw0x> genii, in arch linux vgaswitcheroo worked perfectly!
[20:47] <dn4> yo why is your operating system taking up 2 megabytes each time my OS boots up
[20:47] <ovrflw0x> genii, but the cute "wiggle" of unity brought me to ubuntu, but it sucks now
[20:47] <dn4> I only have 80 times to boot up my OS before my "/" runs out of memory
[20:48] <dn4> is ubunt supporting terrorist hackors for data mining?
[20:48] <dn4> ubuntu
[20:48] <daskdt> I can't get java working on crunchyroll on ubuntu 3.13.0-32-generic
[20:48] <Beldar> ovrflw0x, proclamations of sucks do not really help your here bias is a huge red flag
[20:48] <daskdt> on chromium
[20:48] <ovrflw0x> hey Beldar wazzup bud
[20:49] <Beldar> the ignore
[20:49] <ovrflw0x> Beldar, only if i can get vgaswitcheroo working nicely!
[20:49] <daskdt> i have icedtea too :/
[20:49] <xangua> daskdt: chromium/chrome no longer supports netscape plugins
[20:49] <dn4> go ddammit why is ubunt iwriting to my fucking hdd as root
[20:49] <daskdt> oh no. thats horrible. i dont want to have a 2d browser just for crunchyroll :/
[20:50] <ovrflw0x> genii, Beldar dn4 just cursed!
[20:50] <SchrodingersScat> !language | dn4
[20:50] <Flannel> dn4: Please mind the language.  You've probably got a log file full of errors or something.
[20:50] <xangua> daskdt: well since ubuntu comes with firefox, you already have a 2nd browser ;)
[20:51] <genii> dn4: Your frustration is understandable but please keep the channel family-friendly and refrain from profanity
[20:53] <genii> ovrflw0x: I'm out of immediate ideas on your issue.
[20:57] <ovrflw0x> genii, can you check this small script? http://paste.ubuntu.com/8001831/ maybe it fixes the issue
[20:57] <clark> SchrodingersScat,  do you know what syntax to use to grep all ?  can't figure out how to do that
[20:57] <clark> http://unixhelp.ed.ac.uk/CGI/man-cgi?grep
[20:57] <ovrflw0x> genii, is the script correct?
[20:57] <expunge> clark: grep all for what?
[20:57] <kpenb> I am buying a wfew 4 tb internal hdd. Does linux detect all 4tb?
[20:58] <expunge> clark: why aren't you using grep string in* ?
[20:58] <kpenb> *Western digital
[20:58] <expunge> kpenb: most likely
[20:58] <genii> ovrflw0x: I already told you earlier that I'm not debugging any scripts today.
[20:58] <ovrflw0x> kpenb, what do you have to store that you need 4TB of HDD!???
[20:58] <expunge> clark: or grep -r string in*
[20:58] <expunge> or just grep -ir string .
[20:58]  * expunge asks, as if he's going to get an answer
[20:58]  * expunge rolls eyes
[20:59] <kpenb> Backing up some old data scattered across many old hard drives
[20:59] <rasteroid> can anyone give me some next steps to get my nvidia card working on a precise box upgrade to trusty?
[20:59] <expunge> rasteroid: how isn't it working?
[20:59] <expunge> kpenb: mmmhmmm
[21:00] <rasteroid> i have a fresh install that works fine with the edgers repository
[21:00] <rasteroid> the bad one just flashes orange and then never gets to the greeter
[21:00] <kpenb> ovrfw0x that is the reason for the 4 tb
[21:00] <ovrflw0x> what reason kpenb ?
[21:01] <rasteroid> i've been tracking lightdm bugs, and issues with pam, but nothing i've seen has fixed it
[21:02] <kpenb> ovrflw0x, condensing old hard drive data sorry irc'ING on a tablet at the store
[21:02] <rasteroid> i see the same pam_kwallet dlopen warnings in bopth, so i don't think that's the problem
[21:02] <clark> expunge, the same example as before, made a new gist here:  https://gist.github.com/anonymous/854d1d34624fbdf6d446
[21:02] <kpenb> Just need to know if Ubuntu or any linux distribution detects 4 tb
[21:03] <clark> expunge, how should you do if you want to find all folders ?
[21:03] <expunge> kpenb: yes of course
[21:03] <expunge> kpenb: probably before any other OS did
[21:03] <SchrodingersScat> clark: you need to read up on grep, it takes in a pattern, you need to tell it what to look for then what to look in
[21:03] <expunge> clark: find all folders?
[21:03] <expunge> clark: you just want to find folders?
[21:03] <expunge> clark: that start with 'in'?
[21:03] <rasteroid> expunge: any thoughts as to what i should look for, at, etc.?
[21:03] <kpenb> thanks I think it is a great deal 4 tb western digital for 145 US
[21:04] <kpenb> *dollars
[21:04] <expunge> kpenb: that is a good deal
[21:04] <expunge> kpenb: but two 2TB drives for 72.5 would be better, if you don't have a backup plan
[21:05] <kpenb> OK I will purchase thank you all :)
[21:06] <clark> SchrodingersScat, ls
[21:06] <merca> hello ubuntu community, I've been having the problem for longer than a month that the computer jams even on a very low level of activity. I reinstalled systems a couple of times, it didnt change. the hard disk is shown fine. what could be the reason?
[21:07] <clark> SchrodingersScat,  ok, it seems grep needs two arguments,  thanks
[21:07] <expunge> merca: the hard disk is shown fine?
[21:07] <expunge> clark: grep is not for finding files
[21:07] <merca> expunge, yes
[21:07] <expunge> clark: use 'find in*'
[21:07] <rasteroid> merca: power supply, too?
[21:08] <merca> rasteroid, I had an ailing power supply which had a loose contact point, which I used for a while until I bought a brand new power supply yesterday.
[21:08] <clark> expunge, yes, I guess that is better in this example
[21:09] <rasteroid> merca: because it's not the first thing one suspects
[21:09] <merca> rasteroid, but it still happens now with the new power supply.
[21:11] <rasteroid> merca: memcheck is good?
[21:11] <merca> having started almost in the same period, the monitor began occasionally to omit a letter or two from a web page. I think it was only web pages, i.e. I dont remember any such error with on office docs
[21:11] <merca> with office docs*
[21:12] <merca> rasteroid, I havent done memcheck yet.
[21:12] <merca> could it be the ram?
[21:12] <bekks> merca: Yes.
[21:12] <rasteroid> merca: if you've re-installed and the problem persists it points to the hardware
[21:13] <expunge> not if he reinstalled the same system =P
[21:13] <xubuntu697> heyy
[21:13] <merca> rasteroid, I think so, too. I just don't know what sort of hardware it may be
[21:13] <xubuntu697> there is a way to removew the password every time i start the pc?
[21:13] <dn4> a log file full of NSA hacks
[21:13] <xubuntu697> I want the pc to log in automatically wityhout me typing the pass
[21:14] <expunge> xubuntu697: on Xubuntu?
[21:14] <xubuntu697> yes
[21:14] <xubuntu697> ;_;
[21:14] <expunge> xubuntu697: http://askubuntu.com/questions/51086/how-do-i-enable-auto-login-in-lightdm
[21:15] <merca> I will do the memtest, are there such tests/checks to see how other parts are performing (graphic card, processor..) ?
[21:16] <Akiva-Thinkpad> question; in 14.04 ubuntu, is there a /bin/bash
[21:16] <Akiva-Thinkpad> ?
[21:16] <Akiva-Thinkpad> I am missing it on 14.10, and I am just wondering why
[21:16] <bekks> Akiva-Thinkpad: "yes".
[21:16] <dn4> why did linux work in 2000 on an old cpu and now it doesn't
[21:16] <Akiva-Thinkpad> bekks, thanks
[21:16]  * Akiva-Thinkpad wonders why its missing on 14.10
[21:16] <dn4> and it has 2mb files in logs on each startup?
[21:16] <Akiva-Thinkpad> wait
[21:16] <Akiva-Thinkpad> pah
[21:16] <Akiva-Thinkpad> nvm
[21:17] <guille_> Hi. How can I change the fonts ? I have 14.04 LTS
[21:19] <kostkon> guille_, try Unity Tweak. It's in the software centre
[21:21] <merca> it should be enough to run memtest overnight, right?
[21:21] <delt> *sigh* where was the "nolisten tcp" i had to remove for remote apps?
[21:21] <Xeago> using efibootmgr I removed my old mentions of my previous arch install, however, ubuntu doesn't boot anymore
[21:22] <rasteroid> merca: yes, it should take hours, maybe not overnight
[21:22] <Xeago> running efibootmgr in try ubuntu, doesn't show the list at all
[21:23] <Xeago> I ran boot-repair, all it wanted to do was some fsck, that failed because it is an luks encrypted install
[21:23] <merca> rasteroid, thank you for your help. expunge, bekks, thank you, too. good night!
[21:23] <merca> or day!
[21:23] <Xeago> (ignore it not showing all, I forgot try ubuntu doesn't give you a root shell by default)
[21:24] <wakey> hello
[21:24] <Xeago> so in any case, it used to have "Boot0015 Ubuntu", but it does no longer, how do I get it back?
[21:25] <expunge> wakey: heya
[21:27] <wakey> hello i have a problem please read it and help me
[21:27] <wakey> http://paste.ubuntu.com/8002019/
[21:27] <expunge> that's quite a long read
[21:27] <ovrflw0x> "Displays" in control centre is messing things up how to "remove" it?
[21:28] <ovrflw0x> anybody? how to remove that individual package?
[21:28] <wakey> ya..
[21:28] <wakey> sorry
[21:28] <wakey> please help me dude
[21:28] <wakey> i'll tell u in short
[21:28] <wakey> i deleted linux partitions
[21:29] <wakey> and got stuck with grub2.0 boot prompt
[21:29] <wakey> i can access windows but i need to install another llinux
[21:29] <expunge> wakey: what's stopping you?
[21:29] <wakey> but now i cant since booting 4rm it gives me the grub2.0 boot prompt
[21:30] <expunge> now you can't what?
[21:30] <wakey> i cant install linux / use a liveusb/cd
[21:30] <expunge> why not?
[21:30] <ianorlin> go into bios and select live cd usb as boot device
[21:30] <wakey> it comes to ggrub2.0 boot prompt
[21:30] <wakey> obviously i did that
[21:30] <expunge> wakey: how'd you install it before?
[21:31] <wakey> normal installation'
[21:31] <ovrflw0x> "Displays" in control centre is messing things up how to "remove" it?
[21:31] <ovrflw0x> "Displays" in control centre is messing things up how to "remove" it?
[21:31] <wakey> expunge
[21:32] <wakey> read that link fully please
[21:32] <wakey> u'll understand
[21:32] <wakey> i'm not noob
[21:32] <tammy> Is there a wway I can make my browser wait longer before timing out on a web page?
[21:32] <wakey> sorry if u think that way :P
[21:32] <expunge> tammy: probably
[21:32] <ovrflw0x> "Displays" in control centre is messing things up how to "remove" it?
[21:32] <expunge> wakey: all I currently think is that you aren't answering my question
[21:32] <tammy> expunge: how so?
[21:32] <expunge> tammy: what browser?
[21:33] <wakey> what question?
[21:33] <tammy> expunge: firefox
[21:33] <expunge> wakey: the one I asked you
[21:33] <wakey> previously i installed linux
[21:33] <wakey> using lili usb creator
[21:33] <wakey> and then botted using that usb
[21:33] <wakey> booted
[21:33] <wakey> and follwed the steps
[21:33] <expunge> tammy: go to about:config
[21:33] <kostkon> tammy, about:config   there should be an option in there
[21:33] <expunge> tammy: alter network.http.connection-timeout
[21:34] <wakey> used manual partition allocation
[21:34] <kostkon> ^^
[21:34] <expunge> wakey: so do it again
[21:34] <wakey> for dua boot with windows 8.1
[21:34] <wakey> dude
[21:34] <tammy> expunge: thanks. Where is about:config?
[21:34] <kostkon> tammy, type it in the address bar
[21:34] <expunge> tammy: type it into the location bar
[21:34] <wakey> i get stuck at grub boot prompt
[21:34] <wakey> i dont get the installtion process
[21:35] <expunge> wakey: is it grub of the install media, or your old install?
[21:35] <wakey> i boot from the usb only
[21:35] <wakey> so it should be the instal media
[21:36] <expunge> wakey: then your usb imaging was not done properly
[21:36] <wakey> actually it is done properly
[21:36] <wakey> i checked on other systems
[21:36] <expunge> wakey: then install =)
[21:36] <ianorlin> and it boots on those?
[21:36] <wakey> yes
[21:36] <tammy> expunge: after I change the value, do I have to do anything in order to apply the changes?
[21:36] <expunge> tammy: nope
[21:36] <wakey> it goes to the installtion process
[21:36] <wakey> but gets stuck at boot promp at mine
[21:36] <expunge> tammy: though closing firefox and re-opening it will save it more better
[21:36] <wakey> u know what grub boot prompt is right?
[21:37] <ianorlin> yes
[21:37] <ianorlin> what disks do you have on your system wakey?
[21:37] <expunge> if you change a pref in firefox and it happens to crash immediately afterwards, for whatever reason, the change might not persist
[21:37] <expunge> if you close it and open it again, it will
[21:37] <tammy> expunge: so, let's say I enter in all 9's for the value. I this in microseconds or what?
[21:37] <wakey> what do u mean?
[21:37] <wakey> i have 1tb
[21:37] <kostkon> tammy, it could be just seconds
[21:38] <wakey> hdd
[21:38] <wakey> no ssd
[21:38] <tammy> kostkon: doesn't seem to make a difference.
[21:38] <wakey> @ianorlin
[21:38] <expunge> tammy: oh, looks like it's broken in Firefox right now
[21:38] <tammy> expunge: of course it is -_-
[21:38] <ianorlin> that should be /dev/sda
[21:39] <expunge> tammy: yeah =P
[21:39] <ianorlin> if you boot to live medium do your partitions show up?
[21:39] <wakey> how to remove messages of people joining notification?
[21:39] <expunge> tammy: you might ask irc.mozilla.org's #firefox if they have a solution
[21:39] <expunge> wakey: options button top left
[21:39] <tammy> expunge: any other browser I could try this on? I've been battling this issue for a few days now
[21:39] <tammy> I'm tired of screwing with my server at this point
[21:39] <expunge> tammy: yeah, they all have such an option IME
[21:39] <sade479> a
[21:39] <ianorlin> wakey that depends on your client
[21:40] <Bashing-om> wakey: ianorlin :: just joining ... we talking for partitioning MBR of GPT  on the target hard drive ?
[21:40] <expunge> tammy: https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/response-timeout-24-hours/?src=cb-dl-updated ? =)
[21:40] <wakey> bashing
[21:40] <expunge> tammy: but the simplest way, depending on what you're doing, would be to use wget or curl
[21:40] <wakey> please see this
[21:40] <wakey> http://paste.ubuntu.com/8002019/
[21:40] <kostkon> 24h wow
[21:40] <Bashing-om> wakey: Look'n at your /8002019 .
[21:41] <wakey> thanks
[21:41] <jphase> how can I restore a corrupt/lost /etc/passwd file?
[21:41] <bekks> jphase: From your backup only.
[21:41] <tammy> expunge: heh. I'll give this addon a shot
[21:41] <MoPac> Hi all.  I'm having a weird installation issue (latest 14.10 image on live USB, UEFI).  The installer consistently fails to create a LUKS partition. I can't seem to get any much detail: there's a popup that there was an error setting up the encrypted volume, and the partman log just says "LUKS format failed"
[21:41] <jphase> crap
[21:42] <kostkon> !14.10 | MoPac
[21:42] <MoPac> Ah, I didn't realize that +1 was still a thing
[21:42] <kostkon> MoPac, it's still is yeah
[21:43] <kostkon> it*
[21:43] <SchrodingersScat> MoPac: for as long as there's a next version
[21:43] <jphase> there was a tar command the overwrote this file and now my terminal session is active but I need to create a new passwd file
[21:43] <tammy> expunge: the addon isn't working :/ it still just stops trying to load
[21:43] <Xeago> For some reason I have lost a boot entry in efibootmgr, how do I restore it?
[21:44] <Xeago> I deleted Boot0013 and Boot0014 which were my old arch installs. Rebooting didn't work after.
[21:44] <Xeago> Boot0015 used to be Ubuntu
[21:44] <Xeago> but it has disappeared
[21:45] <expunge> tammy: I'd use wget or curl
[21:45] <wakey> bashing?
[21:45] <kostkon> tammy, try this maybe instead? https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/session-keep-alive/
[21:47] <Bashing-om> wakey: UEFI is a whole new ball game "P.S : i tride using recovry disk and typing bootrec /fixmb or fixboot etc." only thing I know to try. // I do not know what tools Windows has to restore the boot code for a UEFI system, sorry,
[21:48] <wakey> my windows works properly since i have a seperate option on bios/UEFI boot page for windows boot manager
[21:48] <wakey> there is also ubuntu in that since i havent deleted it properly i think
[21:49] <wakey> that is the one causing problems
[21:49] <wakey> i had instaled my linux in UEFI mode only
[21:49] <wakey> that is the laptop has a partition for EFI system partition
[21:50] <wakey> in which i had installed grub
[21:50] <wakey> but it also has the windows boot loader also
[21:50] <wakey> so i cant delete it // but anyways i cant access it
[21:51] <wakey> since i had deleted only linux swp and home or root partitions
[21:51] <wakey> even i find a way to fix grub it wint be of any use
[21:51] <wakey> i just want to install new linux
[21:51] <wakey> :phew:
[21:52] <wakey> people had seperate problems of my type but i have all combined
[21:52] <wakey> any1 there?
[21:52] <wakey> :P
[21:53] <syntroPi> http://linux.die.net/man/8/efibootmgr
[21:53] <chubboes>  why does bacula-console-qt  give a permission denied msg
[21:54] <wakey> syntro
[21:54] <wakey> where to download?
[21:54] <chubboes> after install
[21:55] <chubboes> typing bats
[21:55] <wakey> and where?
[21:55] <chubboes> xterm
[21:55] <wakey> at grub boot prompr?
[21:55] <chubboes> yeah
[21:55] <wakey> i dont think i can do @ boot prompt
[21:55] <chubboes> where?
[21:55] <Bashing-om> wakey: Few of us are knowledgeable with UEFI - yet, I only am aware of bits and pieces. As a starting place to " i just want to install new linux " show the channel what there is to work with: from the ubuntu liveUSB -> sudo apt-get install gdisk , sudo gdisk -l /dev/sda | pastebinit , sudo parted -l | pastebinit <- . Will see what I can do.
[21:56] <enjoi> aloha
[21:56] <wakey> bashing
[21:56] <syntroPi> wakey: afaik efi consists of entry in the firmware (similar to "bios") and the boot loaders on the disk.  you can boot a livecd in efi mode manipulate entries like here http://askubuntu.com/questions/63610/how-do-i-remove-ubuntu-in-the-bios-boot-menu-uefi. But since i dont own an UEFI machine, i dont really know
[21:56] <enjoi> by chance can anyone tell me the default version of apache that ubuntu 14.04 comes with?
[21:57] <bekks> !info apache2 trusty
[21:57] <jphase> ah so luckily I had an active terminal session and just pasted in a default ubuntu passwd file and was able to connect - thx for the help either way :D
[21:57] <wakey> i cant boot into livelinux since i get stuck @ grub boot prompt
[21:57] <wakey> @bashing
[21:57] <enjoi> ah, nice
[21:57] <enjoi> ty bekks :)
[21:57] <enjoi> and ubottu
[21:57] <enjoi> <3
[21:58] <wakey> as i said earlier
[21:58] <enjoi> I'm downgrading for Airtime to 2.2.22, just wanted to make sure it wasn't default and not taking extra steps for nothing :-p
[21:58] <syntroPi> wakey try using the boot key (depends on your system, intel may have f10, hp f9, others maybe f12) and then choose efi boot cd
[21:58] <wakey> same thing to you @ syntro
[21:58] <wakey> dude i did that -_-
[21:58] <enjoi> I see your name and think wakey bakey
[21:58] <enjoi> lol
[21:58] <wakey> lol
[21:58] <enjoi> just sayin
[21:58] <wakey> fine fine
[21:59] <enjoi> alrighty, back to fixing this airtime setup
[21:59] <NTQ> Hi. I got a GPG error since today. Anyone an idea? http://paste.ubuntuusers.de/419512/
[21:59] <enjoi> thx again guys :)
[21:59] <enjoi> <3 this chan with a passion
[21:59] <wakey> yo tell me some solution :P
[22:00] <enjoi> for at?
[22:00] <Bashing-om> wakey: All I cab suggest is that the USB was burned under the 'legacy' mode, and will not boot up in UEFI mode ?? // maybe play around with the systems settings in UEFI and see if you can get that live(USB) to boot. Untill we can get a live environmnt there is nothing else that can be done.
[22:00] <wakey> no
[22:00] <enjoi> oh lol
[22:00] <wakey> it recognizes it as EFI usb
[22:00] <wakey> EFI usb device
[22:00] <chubboes> after bacula-console-qt installed command "bat" gives permission denied msg
[22:01] <wakey> syntro
[22:01] <chubboes> vapeking all day
[22:01] <wakey> any other way to use efibootmgr?
[22:01] <chubboes> syntro?
[22:02] <wakey> bashing
[22:02] <chubboes> yes
[22:03] <wakey> for the live linux to work i need to fix the grub bootloader
[22:03] <wakey> thats the problem :P its a cirle ... i need to fix this to fix this xD
[22:03] <wakey> *that
[22:04] <wakey> https://askubuntu.com/questions/509176/deleted-my-previous-linux-partition-and-now-getting-stuck-at-grub-boot-prompt-wh
[22:04] <Bashing-om> wakey: Fixing the boot code on the USB drive is required // but another thouhgt, can you boot from a DVD ? .. rather than fixing the USB, burn a DVD so we do not have the additional problem of the USB booting issue ?
[22:05] <wakey> i dont think usb is the problem since it works in other systems
[22:05] <wakey> btw
[22:05] <syntroPi> wakey BEFORE grub gets exectued your EFI firmware looks if the boot key is pressed (enable it cd or usb booting before) then present you the boot choices. there you should be able to select a boot loader on cd or usb stick, so that grub on your hdd wont be exectued at all
[22:05] <wakey> windows cd works
[22:05] <wakey> usb i mean
[22:05] <wakey> thats EFI only
[22:05] <wakey> anyways... problem is with grub
[22:06] <winem> a colleague removed the whole partition table (ntfs for windows, swap, grub, etc) on a laptop of another colleague. I used testdisk and was able to restore the whole partition table within minutes
[22:06] <chubboes> do windows then whatever
[22:06] <wakey> thats a biig process
[22:06] <wakey> have a lot of data in wondows
[22:06] <wakey> chubboes please read my questio n or pastebin
[22:07] <wakey> http://paste.ubuntu.com/8002019/
[22:07] <wakey> @syntro
[22:07] <wakey> yes its supposed to work like that
[22:07] <wakey> but it doesnt?
[22:07] <syntroPi> wakey i never used that but you may also use something like http://www.easyuefi.com/index-us.html from windows
[22:08] <wakey> thanks
[22:08] <wakey> possibly it will help
[22:10] <syntroPi> wakey you also can use the windows cd to boot it in repair mode and fix boot options (it may restore the original windows boot loader) and then reinstall the linux from that point after then
[22:10] <chubboes> oh wakey wakey goto www.ubuntu.com get ISO disk image
[22:10] <wakey_> sorry
[22:11] <wakey_> some connction problem
[22:11] <TJ-> wakey: You need to mount (from Windows) the *hidden* EFI system Partition (usually the first partition, type EF00, less than 512MB), then navigate into it and delete the "\EFI\ubuntu\" directory.
[22:11] <wakey_> can u repeat watever u guys said b4r?
[22:11] <wakey_> how to?
[22:11] <TJ-> wakey: You will also need to delete the UEFI boot menu entry. If you still had Linux you could use "efibootmgr" to do that, as it is, you will need to use the UEFI's only tools, or a similar Windows tool
[22:12] <wakey_> tj : how to mount that "hidden" EFI sp ?
[22:13] <TJ-> wakey: From Windows? I think in Disk Management you highlight the EFI System Partition, right-click, and on the context menu should be an option to mount... you may need to un-hide it first. I'm not sure how much Windows prevents the user getting to it though... You might be quicker booting a Linux Live ISO and doing it from that
[22:17] <enjoi> can't wait for my memory to get here :(
[22:17] <enjoi> I ordered 2GB
[22:18] <enjoi> I'm running ubuntu 14 on a DELL Optiplex gx520
[22:18] <enjoi> with 2GB of ram, and a sata hdd
[22:18] <enjoi> I'm hoping the 2GB will give it a bit of a better performance
[22:19] <TJ-> enjoi: It definitely will. The more RAM the better for all OSes really
[22:19] <expunge> enjoi: neat
[22:19] <expunge> enjoi: I have the same thing this very second, s/520/620
[22:19] <expunge> enjoi: how much did you spend on 2GB?
[22:19] <enjoi> oh, which brings up the question, maybe someone might know, if I were to get an 8GB stick of ram, even if the board didn't support it, would there be a way to still utilize it in linux some how?
[22:20] <enjoi> expunge, 20 bucks on amazon
[22:20] <expunge> enjoi: nice
[22:20] <expunge> enjoi: link? =)
[22:20] <enjoi> sec
[22:20] <kostkon> enjoi, less swap usage, that's a big plus
[22:20] <expunge> enjoi: I think that varies a lot
[22:20] <expunge> the mainboard could have real limits
[22:20] <expunge> the BIOS could have artificial ones
[22:20] <enjoi> oh 25 :P
[22:20] <enjoi> http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000ACZC9C/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o02_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
[22:20] <expunge> definitely make sure the BIOS is the latest available
[22:21] <expunge> enjoi: thanks =)
[22:21] <enjoi> no prob man
[22:21] <TJ-> enjoi: Usually if there's dual slots you're better off putting in 2 matching modules of say 4GB to get 8GB
[22:21] <TJ-> enjoi: I installed 8GB on all my Dells; some needed a BIOS update to 'see' it
[22:22] <enjoi> nice
[22:22] <enjoi> I installed ubuntu so I could start on some android development actually, and run my radio server
[22:22] <enchilado> 42
[22:22] <enchilado> Eep, sorry.
[22:22] <enjoi> this optiplex was 3ghz and 100 bucks from this chinese dude, perfect fit lol
[22:23] <expunge> mine too! s/chinese/whitebread/
[22:23] <expunge> our comps are twins bra
[22:26] <enjoi> lmao
[22:26] <enjoi> they got the hook ups
[22:26] <expunge> manual says 4gb is max for the gx520
[22:27] <expunge> but who knows for sure =)
[22:27] <expunge> I've seen boxes that shipped with AMD-V and the BIOS had no way to use it until an update was released years later
[22:27] <expunge> anyways, 4 is plenty
[22:28] <TJ-> expunge: Highly likely 4GB is the maximum; the chipset is Intel 945G ... most of those northbridges only have a 32-bit address bus
[22:29] <neldogz> if i wanted to find out what DNS servers I am using on Ubuntu 14.04 what command would i use/
[22:29] <expunge> TJ-: also the manual says it is...
[22:30] <neldogz> resolve.conf is empty
[22:31] <chubboes> neldogZ: try dnsdomainname
[22:31] <chubboes> in xterm
[22:32] <TJ-> expunge: The manuals often say it because, especially for older PCs, when they were designed large capacity RAM modules were not manufactured. I've seen several systems that say maximum DIMM module size is 2GB per stick... most of those will accept 4GB modules, and some even larger modules
[22:32] <neldogz> chubboes, that command doesn't return anything
[22:33] <expunge> TJ-: you really have a disconnect between the present and a handful of lines ago =P
[22:33] <neldogz> I had to use m-tool | grep DNS, why has Ubuntu removed this from the standard location of /etc/resolv.conf
[22:33] <chubboes> neldogz: try just    domainname
[22:34] <TJ-> expunge:  in what way?
[22:34] <neldogz> chubboes, nothing using domainname either
[22:34] <chubboes> then i am not sure
[22:34] <DoverMo> neldogz, what is m-tool?
[22:35] <expunge> TJ-: heh
[22:35] <expunge> doesn't matter
[22:35] <neldogz> DoverMo, it's called the network manager tool
[22:36] <DoverMo> ..
[22:36] <neldogz> DoverMo, i guess it reads directly from the network manager in Ubuntu
[22:36] <neldogz> /etc/resolv.conf is empty for me
[22:37] <neldogz> DoverMo, http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/maverick/man1/nm-tool.1.html
[22:37] <DoverMo> oh nm
[22:37] <Ntemis> is there anyone that speak hebrew here?
[22:37] <DoverMo> neldogz, i use wireless, so all that's ever in their is the private ip
[22:38] <Ntemis> i am locked out of my email and the captch is in hebrew :(
[22:38] <Ntemis> captcha
[22:38] <neldogz> DoverMo, try this: issuing just nm-tool
[22:38] <neldogz> it shows everything
[22:38] <neldogz> just like it should
[22:39] <SchrodingersScat> !ot | Ntemis
[22:39] <DoverMo> neldogz, i don't use nm either
[22:39] <neldogz> How do you show the DNS servers you are using?
[22:39] <goeo_> hi, i'm trying to mount an apple disk image doing ´sudo mount -o loop,ro -t hfsplus xcode_5.1.1.dmg /mnt2´ and i get ´mount: /mnt2: mount failed: Unknown error -1´. i tried dmg2img'ing and mounting the iso, same happens.
[22:41] <expunge> goeo_: tried without -t hfsplus?
[22:41] <neldogz> goeo_, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/hfsplus
[22:42] <goeo_> expunge, yes, and with hfs
[22:42] <goeo_> same happens
[22:42] <aliteralmind> Any ideas why I can't see this static file via nginx? Here's the nginx's setting file (http://dpaste.com/0SPTHP8)
[22:42] <aliteralmind> And "ls - l /home/jeffy/django_files/django_test/static/" returns
[22:42] <aliteralmind> -rw-rw-r-- 1 jeffy jeffy    1 Aug  6 22:55 temp.txt
[22:42] <expunge> goeo_: what does 'file' think the .dmg is?
[22:43] <aliteralmind> Yet http://104.131.200.120/static/temp.txt gives a 404 not found.
[22:43] <goeo_> expunge, xcode_5.1.1.dmg: VAX COFF executable not stripped
[22:43] <expunge> aliteralmind: that's the right ip is it?
[22:43] <goeo_> and the iso: xcode_5.1.1.iso: Apple Driver Map, blocksize 2048, blockcount 1399811, devtype 0, devid 0, descriptors 0, contains[@0x800]: Apple Partition Map, map block count 3, start block 1, block count 15, name Apple, type Apple_partition_map, contains[@0x1000]: Apple Partition Map, map block count 3, start block 16, block count 1399792, name disk image,
[22:43] <goeo_> type Apple_HFS, contains[@0x1800]: Apple Partition Map, map block count 3, start block 1399808, block count 3, type Apple_Free
[22:44] <TJ-> !paste | goeo_
[22:44] <chubboes> I do not have one
[22:44] <goeo_> > For posting multi-line texts
[22:44] <goeo_> that wasn't multi-line :p
[22:44] <aliteralmind> Yes. And the server is on at the moment.
[22:44] <expunge> george2: -1 for the converted one, too?
[22:44] <aliteralmind> expunge: Yes. And the server is on at the moment.
[22:45] <expunge> aliteralmind: I'm sure #nginx would know
[22:45] <aliteralmind> expunge: Ah. Didn't know there was an #nginx. Thanks  :)
[22:46] <expunge> /msg alis list *nginx*
[22:46] <X120e> hi would anyone care to have alook at my system test output just to make sure everything is working correctly?
[22:47] <expunge> X120e: ...sure?
[22:48] <wafflejock_> if I want to install gnome alongside KDE in a kubuntu installation what package(s) should I install?
[22:49] <X120e> expunge how do i send it to you email?
[22:49] <wafflejock_> X120e: typically in IRC people use pastebin to share something, you can private message (PM) someone by clicking/double clicking their name in most clients
[22:50] <daftykins> !paste | X120e
[22:50] <X120e> expunge it is because it output as report.html
[22:50] <expunge> X120e: http://webdevout.net/test/
[22:51] <X120e> okay thank you
[22:52] <_jack_> #join #archlinux
[22:56] <X120e> expunge you just have to change the ext. back to . >  html http://paste.ubuntu.com/8002613/
[22:57] <expunge> daftykins: thanks a lot
[22:58] <X120e> expunge it was to big for webdevout
[22:58] <expunge> X120e: sorry I'm not going to sign up and log in to use some pastebin
[22:58] <X120e> expunge isnt it free?
[22:59] <mikeg3> How do I save a file in vi?
[22:59] <bekks> X120e: It doesnt matter. There are zillions of pastebins out there which do not require a registration at all :)
[22:59] <DoverMoo> mikeg3, "esc" ":wq"
[22:59] <DoverMoo> enter"
[22:59] <X120e> expunge i just click on the link and it showed me the paste
[22:59] <mikeg3> thanks dovermoo
[22:59] <bekks> X120e: because you have an account there and you are logged in currently. We dont.
[23:00] <X120e> no i didnt have an account
[23:00] <X120e> its the first time i paste to there
[23:00] <wafflejock_> hmm k think I'm gonna clonezilla/dd my drive then try this out http://askubuntu.com/questions/452864/how-to-get-gnome-shell-3-12-on-ubuntu-14-04
[23:01] <X120e> expunge i used paste.ubuntu.com
[23:01] <expunge> wafflejock_: cloning is the tedious way to backup a Unix install
[23:02] <expunge> X120e: that pastebin is intolerable to me =)
[23:02] <X120e> oh okay........
[23:02] <wafflejock_> expunge: what do you think would be better?
[23:02] <X120e> do you know of another site for html thats bigger then 16kb
[23:02] <X120e> my html file is 587kb
[23:03] <expunge> X120e: http://justbeamit.com/
[23:03] <X120e> okay thanks
[23:03] <chudmu> im having a problem, i can not install libre office in my ubuntu 12.04
[23:04] <chudmu> can anyone help me
[23:04] <X120e> expunge http://www.justbeamit.com/vdfrp
[23:04] <DoverMo> chudmu, why nu
[23:04] <chudmu> DoverMo,  idk
[23:05] <DoverMo> chudmu, did you use cli to install?
[23:05] <expunge> X120e: got it
[23:05] <chudmu> what is cli
[23:05] <chudmu> DoverMo,  whats a cli
[23:05] <expunge> chudmu: command line interface
[23:05] <X120e> expunge thank you btw for taken the time to help me.
[23:05] <DoverMo> cli/terminal
[23:05] <expunge> interfacing with a computer via lines of commands
[23:05] <chudmu> Exagone313,  yep i did
[23:05] <expunge> X120e: mmhmmm
[23:05] <wafflejock_> expunge: I have to backup like 100GB doing rsync isn't going to be faster than just cloning it and getting back to what I had is no work just cloning back, if I'm doing something that might screw up my desktop I think backing up is a good move
[23:05] <chudmu> i did with cli, but it did not work
[23:05] <expunge> X120e: were you concerned about something in particular?
[23:05] <DoverMo> chudmu, so what error do you get?
[23:06] <expunge> wafflejock_: backing up is
[23:06] <chudmu> DoverMo,  i do not get any error in cli, but it doesnt get added in my computer after the installation finishes
[23:06] <X120e> expunge i just want to make sure ubuntu installed correctly and that all drivers are correct and the system it self is working right
[23:06] <expunge> X120e: if it wasn't working, you would notice =)
[23:07] <X120e> sometimes..............
[23:07] <expunge> X120e: the only thing that wouldn't be immediately apparent are peripherals
[23:07] <expunge> like cameras, printers
[23:07] <DoverMo> chudmu, unity desktop?
[23:07] <darkelfjuggalo> I am running play on linux via Ubuntu 14.04 LTS in order to play League of Legends... I have followed all installation requirements, I have performed recommended Linux based Patches for 14.04 , but my Full screen Viewer is crashing when it tries to load... is there a possibility this is an Ubuntu Driver issue for Full Screen 3D rendering?
[23:07] <chudmu> DoverMo,  xfce desktop
[23:07] <wafflejock_> expunge: not worth the time to setup all the development tools and everything
[23:07] <X120e> i'm not an expert with ubuntu so i don't know how to check system logs etc....
[23:08] <wafflejock_> expunge: thx for your input though
[23:08] <expunge> wafflejock_: awhaw
[23:08] <DoverMo> chudmu, maybe consider reinstalling xfce4-panel?
[23:08] <chudmu> DoverMo,  no how do i do it
[23:09] <DoverMo> chudmu, apt-get install xfce4-panel --reinstall
[23:09] <chudmu> DoverMo,  but u know other programs downloads and works fine
[23:09] <mmiller13> Does anyone knows if it's possible to make a program run faster?
[23:09] <expunge> mmiller13: sure is
[23:09] <X120e> expunge firefox has crashed afew times already things like that
[23:09] <expunge> X120e: on what page?
[23:09] <expunge> Firefox crashes sometimes on any OS, though
[23:10] <mmiller13> how?
[23:10] <X120e> true
[23:10] <mmiller13> expunge: How?
[23:10] <X120e> also the first time i try to run system test it crashed
[23:10] <mmiller13> mmiller13: t
[23:10] <wafflejock_> X120e: there are various log viewers have you checked the lense to see if you have any system log viewers installed
[23:10] <ovrflw0x> how do i stop X from trying to load "fglrx" module http://paste.ubuntu.com/8002687/
[23:11] <X120e> i would have just the default ones from ubuntu itself
[23:11] <expunge> mmiller13: lots of ways
[23:11] <_Bah> can set laptops bluetooth on and other devices can see it (detected as phone for some reason), but it cant find any of the other devices. suggestions?
[23:11] <DoverMo> ovrflw0x, in general, you can always blacklist a module in /usr/lib/modprobe.d/
[23:12] <wafflejock_> X120e: basically you can look in /var/log/ and that has the logs from lots of programs, also if you run a program from the terminal you can usually see some output about what went wrong and search for issues related to the error
[23:12] <DoverMo> ovrflw0x, although that doesn't solve the problem in theory
[23:12] <ovrflw0x> DoverMo, /etc/modprobe or /usr/lib..?
[23:12] <DoverMo> ovrflw0x, usr lib
[23:12] <chubboes> x120e: type log at search your computer icon
[23:12] <ovrflw0x> DoverMo, if no solve in theory then what to do?
[23:12] <wafflejock_> X120e: I'm on Kubuntu right now so I have ksyslog but if you just hit winkey and type log or system log in the lense you should find something
[23:13] <DoverMo> mmiller13, the short answer is no
[23:13] <chubboes> x120e: pick system log icon
[23:13] <ovrflw0x> DoverMo, there no modprobe.d in usr lib
[23:13] <X120e> okay thanks guys but from what you saw from the system test report explunge does the system seem okay?
[23:14] <DoverMo> ovrflw0x, make one then. or just use etc
[23:14] <wafflejock_> X120e: didn't see it the link seems to be dead now
[23:15] <DoverMo> ovrflw0x, understand that blacklisting isn't really standard protocol. it's just a feature of modprove
[23:15] <wafflejock_> g2g bbiab hopefully
[23:15] <X120e> wafflejock i would have to resend it as it is only for 1 person
[23:16] <user2> hi guys, I like linux
[23:16] <user2> X120e: hi, do you also own a thinkpad x120e?
[23:17] <X120e> user2 yes i do
[23:18] <user2> X120e: X120e, Nice. I have also a X120 on which I want to install linux after holidays
[23:19] <user2> X120e: does it run smoothly? and did you manage to install all the essential drivers?
[23:19] <X120e> user2 yes it did and yes ubuntu installed everything and from what i can tell it runs fine
[23:21] <user2> X120e: good to know, thanks for sharing
[23:21] <X120e> your welcome
[23:22] <ovrflw0x> DoverMo, i blacklisted fglrx in modprobe.d but still i get same error in Xorg.0.log
[23:22] <X120e> I have a new link if anyone eles would care to have alook at my system test output?
[23:23] <DoverMo> ovrflw0x, you have to remake the init
[23:23] <expunge> just link to it, someone who cares will go there
[23:23] <ovrflw0x> how
[23:23] <DoverMo> ovrflw0x, i don't know
[23:23] <X120e> oh okay
[23:23] <X120e> http://www.justbeamit.com/u8dn8
[23:23] <X120e> thank you
[23:23] <ovrflw0x> DoverMo, you know of any link?
[23:23] <chubboes> i would like to see your system test information for my references
[23:23] <DoverMo> ovrflw0x, there's like 2 commands. but I couldn't say off the top of my head
[23:23] <DoverMo> different flags etc
[23:23] <X120e> http://www.justbeamit.com/u8dn8
[23:24] <ovrflw0x> what keywords i should search for  DOVER
[23:24] <DoverMo> ovrflw0x, ask someone else
[23:25] <chubboes> http://www.justbeamit.com/u8dn8 was clicked for checking ?? But download did not happen..
[23:27] <X120e> chubboes thats because the link only works 1 time i would have to repost it
[23:27] <chubboes> oh, No do not have to worry about me
[23:27] <josiah> Hi guys
[23:27] <josiah> need some help here
[23:27] <sacrelicious> hey guys, please help me out, I'm trying to watch a live event online, but for some reason live streams keep freezing on me. youtube and all the rest work fine, but any live streams freeze after about 20 seconds and do not continue
[23:27] <josiah> when I view a transaction with gettransaction
[23:28] <sacrelicious> is it a plugin issue? I'm new to linux and don't know how to upgrade my plugins on it.
[23:28] <josiah> I get part of the transaction data
[23:28] <josiah> how do I view all the transaction data
[23:28] <DoverMo> sacrelicious, what browser?
[23:28] <sacrelicious> DoverMo, tried with both firefox and chromium
[23:28] <josiah> sorry wrong channel
[23:28] <SchrodingersScat> josiah: i think you want #bitcoin
[23:28] <sacrelicious> it literally just freezes and then stops.
[23:29] <sacrelicious> its not a lag issue, it just completely stops.
[23:29] <expunge> sacrelicious: it's probably the particular services sucking
[23:29] <X120e> anyways i have to go thank you guys for your time
[23:29] <expunge> most streaming flash sites are very poorly made
[23:29] <DoverMo> sacrelicious, right. well it sounds like a plugin issue. you're saying it's on a different site than youtube?
[23:29] <sacrelicious> expunge, it happens with every single live stream.
[23:29] <chubboes> you are welcome
[23:29] <expunge> sacrelicious: most are very poorly made
[23:29] <sacrelicious> DoverMo, yeah, any time i try to watch something live, I have tried this with multiple live events, trust me, its not a service issue.
[23:30] <ovrflw0x> how to remove "Displays" from "System settings"?
[23:30] <DoverMo> sacrelicious, okay. well i would recommend using firefox and adobe flash, try reinstalling them perhaps
[23:30] <Beldar> sacrelicious, IT may be just a higher resolution than the computer can run continuously, any lag in the video with sound?
[23:30] <DoverMo> sacrelicious, if that doesn't work. chromium and a firefox plugin can also take advantage of pepper flash. however that usually causes more problems, BUT, there's a small chance it will work
[23:31] <expunge> sacrelicious: look into rtmpdump and the like
[23:31] <sacrelicious> Beldar, its not lagging. it plays perfectly for 10 seconds and then freezes, and wont continue. I repeat - this is not a lag issue, and it is not an issue with a particular service. I'm a big sports fan, the exact same thing happens with any live sporting service I try to subscribe to.
[23:31] <DoverMo> sacrelicious, technically adobe flash is like 11.2 and pepper is like.. 11.8/11.9 or something; maintained by google
[23:31] <sacrelicious> same thing happens with live audio streams when i try to play them through VLC.
[23:32] <DoverMo> sacrelicious, make sure to install all optinal codecs
[23:32] <sacrelicious> DoverMo, how do i do that?
[23:32] <ovrflw0x> how to remove "Displays" from "System settings"?
[23:32] <chubboes> sacrelicious: goto ubuntu software center icon and type in search "flash" and download  the right one
[23:33] <ovrflw0x> how to modprobe a module in an upstart script?
[23:33] <sacrelicious> chubboes, this raises another issue. ubuntu software center crashes every time i try to run it.
[23:33] <expunge> sacrelicious: likely irrelevant if it's Flash streaming
[23:33] <Beldar> sacrelicious, Note this is free help, and not every response word for word is always read so have some continuity with this.
[23:33] <chubboes> sacrelicious: restart your computer
[23:34] <sacrelicious> chubboes, ???
[23:35] <sacrelicious> chubboes, its not just crashing now, i havent been able to start the software centre for about 3 months.
[23:35] <chubboes> sacrelicious: I restart when ubuntu freezes
[23:35] <sacrelicious> one sec, i'll get the error message.
[23:35] <sacrelicious> wait, nevermind, its working, okay, hold up
[23:36] <laspahr_mint17> hey :) I'm trying to update my linux kernel on mint 17 to 3.14, but I'm having issues... it won't install the kernel-ppa/ppa right /:
[23:36] <SchrodingersScat> !ubuntu | laspahr_mint17
[23:36] <kostkon> !mint | laspahr_mint17
[23:36] <laspahr_mint17> darn.. sorry
[23:37] <laspahr_mint17> linuxmint-help isn't a very helpful channel :0
[23:37] <wolter> Help, my system seems to have lost some icons, like software center and file manager navigation icons
[23:37] <laspahr_mint17> :)\
[23:38] <wolter> Also, my system font was replaced with some generic sans serif font
[23:38] <_Bah> any idea how to troubleshoot bluetooth device searh?
[23:38] <expunge> _Bah: hrmm?
[23:38] <_Bah> search
[23:38] <Guest_204383647> Hello.. Help updating Linux Kernel?
[23:38] <sacrelicious> hold up a moment, i appreciate the help everyone, just give me one sec, I know i seem like a total idiot, lol
[23:38] <expunge> Guest_204383647: what about it?
[23:39] <expunge> _Bah: what's the trouble?
[23:39] <_Bah> the bluetooth seems to go on correctly. and can be seen by other devices. but the search doesnt find the other devices
[23:39] <Guest_204383647> need to go from 3.13 to 3.14.. having power issues (can't suspend, hibernate, close lid without specifying to do nothing)
[23:39] <Guest_204383647> which would be a BIOS issue but my BIOS is up to date, so must be a kernel issue, or so I was told
[23:40] <ovrflw0x> how to remove "Displays" from "System settings"?
[23:40] <expunge> _Bah: other devices in discovery mode?
[23:40] <_Bah> yes
[23:40] <expunge> well that's a problem =)
[23:40] <expunge> _Bah: ordinary 'Ubuntu'?
[23:40] <AncientPC> I'm trying to automate a Docker build script. How do you force aptitude to install a package even if it means downgrading other packages?
[23:40] <sacrelicious> okay, so i'm in the software center, i just removed firefox, i'm attempting to reinstall, and I'm getting spammed with messages saying "This requires installation of untrusted packages"
[23:40] <_Bah> yeah. 14.01 desktop
[23:41] <_Bah> 04.01
[23:41] <ovrflw0x> here expunge here here
[23:41] <sacrelicious> and then it doesnt download....
[23:41] <ovrflw0x> how to remove "Displays" from "System settings"?
[23:41] <Guest67794> Hey, does anyone know where the development chat room is ? I need to ask about re-compiling the kernel
[23:41] <chubboes> sacrelicious: :(
[23:42] <sacrelicious> well... now i've lost my internet browser.... what is going on here?
[23:42] <Guest_204383647> May I get some help?
[23:42] <chubboes> sacrelicious: which is your favourite browser?
[23:42] <expunge> Guest_204383647: what's up?
[23:43] <DoverMo> chubboes, ask me
[23:43] <sacrelicious> chubboes, firefox. I just uninstalled it...and now I can't reinstall it... =/
[23:43] <expunge> Guest67794: why do you need to recompile your kernel?
[23:43] <Guest67794> expunge I have old hardware, and need a non-pae kernel
[23:43] <ovrflw0x> how to remove "Displays" from "System settings"?
[23:44] <Guest_204383647> Updating Linux Kernel.. 3.13 to 3.14. Having ACPI trouble, not allowing me to go into hibernate, suspend, close lid, etc...
[23:44] <sacrelicious> and now the software center is crashing... this is very bizarre. I'ma gonna try a reboot... be back shortly.
[23:45] <ovrflw0x> how to remove "Displays" from "System settings"?
[23:45] <Guest_204383647> expunge: Updating Linux Kernel.. 3.13 to 3.14. Having ACPI trouble, not allowing me to go into hibernate, suspend, close lid, etc...
[23:47] <enjoi> eff it, i'm just going to run radiodj via wine lol
[23:47] <Guest67794> Ok, well apparently this is the only chat room, where people talk. I'm trying to re-compile the kernel with no pae in it for i386.
[23:48] <sacrelicious> eh...yep...same thing
[23:48] <Guest67794> I discovered what things to change in the .config files and such, but the rules script keeps overwriting the .config files.
[23:48] <sacrelicious> I can't seem to install firefox because it contains "untrusted packages" .... =/
[23:48] <Guest67794> sacrelicious I don't trust Firefox ;) I use seamonkey
[23:48] <ovrflw0x> how to remove "Displays" from "System settings"?
[23:49] <Beldar> Guest67794, If people are just chatting they are breaking the channel rules of support only.
[23:49] <enjoi> not sure if this would help, but I found this regarding the matter I think : http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/slackware-14/latest-kernel-not-appropriate-for-my-cpu-936632/
[23:49] <sacrelicious> well... thats fine... but this doesn't do anything to solve my issues with live streams.. =/
[23:49] <Guest_204383647> expunge: help..?
[23:50] <enjoi> ah, I see
[23:50] <DoverMo> sacrelicious, ?
[23:50] <enjoi> bit out of my range unfortunately, but I am sure someone will wake up and see :P
[23:50] <enjoi> allot of people just kind of dip in and out while at work or w/e
[23:50] <expunge> Guest_204383647: hi
[23:51] <expunge> what's up?
[23:51] <Guest_204383647> ....
[23:51] <Beldar> Guest67794, There is ##kernel
[23:51] <enjoi> but they will eventually get to ya
[23:51] <Guest_204383647> expunge: Updating Linux Kernel.. 3.13 to 3.14. Having ACPI trouble, not allowing me to go into hibernate, suspend, close lid, etc...
[23:51] <sacrelicious> errr...
[23:51] <sacrelicious> okay so
[23:51] <sacrelicious> hrm...
[23:51] <expunge> Guest_204383647: you need to know how to try 3.14?
[23:51] <sacrelicious> now i'm trying to install ANYTHING from the software center... and I can't, i get spammed with windows saying "requires installation of untrusted packages"
[23:51] <Guest_204383647> expunge: how to upgrade to it.. it won't install kernel-ppa/ppa right
[23:52] <ovrflw0x> how to remove "Displays" from "System settings"?
[23:52] <DoverMo> sacrelicious, lolwut. do an "apt-get update" in cli and see if that returns normally
[23:52] <olivier__> hello everyone, I have some big trouble with my grub, it cannot show windows in the startup list. Before installing linux on this laptop, I have resized and moved windows partition to the end and installed linux at the begining. I was thinking grub will see windows and propose it in the startup menu, but no. grub-repair not fixing the problem. Could anyone help me please?
[23:52] <ovrflw0x> how to remove "Displays" from "System settings" in Unity
[23:52] <OerHeks> kernel-ppa/ppa is empty
[23:52] <sacrelicious> DoverMo, doing that now, one sec.
[23:52] <Guest_204383647> OerHeks: then what ppa do I need?
[23:52] <Beldar> olivier__, How did you move windows?
[23:52] <sacrelicious> DoverMo, apt-get update is stuck at this: 61% [Waiting for headers]
[23:53] <DoverMo> sacrelicious, wait for the headers!
[23:53] <sacrelicious> DoverMo, wait, nevermind, ha
[23:53] <olivier__> Beldar, with gparted from the livecd
[23:53] <ovrflw0x> how to search for packages in ubuntu?
[23:53] <ovrflw0x> apt-get search mypackage?
[23:53] <enjoi> hey, I found this blog here, I wonder if it might help with that PAE and streaming, http://blog.felipe-alfaro.com/page/20/
[23:53] <olivier__> ovrflw0x, apt-cache search mypackage
[23:53] <sacrelicious> DoverMo, same thing. untrusted packages after the update.
[23:53] <expunge> olivier__: pastebin the output of sudo lsblk -f, and your grub.cfg
[23:54] <OerHeks> Guest_204383647, you can download mainline builds here https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/MainlineBuilds but i am afraid it is not supported here
[23:54] <Beldar> !bootinfo | olivier__ run this extract the zip first than pastebin the output
[23:54] <Guest_204383647> OerHeks: what do you mean?
[23:54] <Beldar> olivier__, If you moved the front of the windows partition I have seen this brick windows.
[23:55] <OerHeks> Guest_204383647, see the last line at that page
[23:55] <DoverMo> sacrelicious, well sounds like you have some validation problems with your mirrors...
[23:55] <sacrelicious> DoverMo, i'm not sure i know what that means...
[23:55] <DoverMo> sacrelicious, did you add any repos recently?
[23:55] <sacrelicious> DoverMo, nope.
[23:55] <ovrflw0x> olivier__, i want adwaita theme for unity is it there?
[23:56] <olivier__> Beldar, http://dpaste.com/08DJCXS
[23:56] <Guest_204383647> OerHeks: ah, okay
[23:57] <olivier__> ovrflw0x, absolutely no idea
[23:57] <ovrflw0x> where can i download other themes for unity?
[23:57] <ovrflw0x> icon themes
[23:57] <wolter> My system seems to have most theming capabilities after an update, how do I fix?
[23:57] <sacrelicious> well this sucks, i was trying to fix a stream issue so i uninstalled a web browser and tried to reinstall it, failed, and now have no web browser o_O
[23:57] <Beldar> olivier__, That us the scritp you run the commands on the link to generate the actual boot script.
[23:57] <DoverMo> sacrelicious, when did that error happen?
[23:57] <wolter> (Some icons gone, theme engine not working)
[23:57] <wolter> (Fonts changed)
[23:58] <sacrelicious> DoverMo, i don't know, I haven't used the software center in ages. Just tried to use it to reinstall firefox 10 minutes ago, I can't install anything from it without getting that error.
[23:59] <chubboes> sacrelicious: are you using windows and ubuntu?
[23:59] <sacrelicious> chubboes, nope, just ubuntu.
[23:59] <Beldar> olivier__, Actually Thatis some command, use the boot script I gave you.