[01:52] Riddell: All migrated now. === fenris is now known as Guest9006 === fenris is now known as Guest69815 [08:27] Good morning. [10:58] 'Morning all === shadeslayer_ is now known as shadeslayer [12:23] ScottK: super, high five, what needed doing? [13:04] ScottK: https://blogs.kde.org/2014/08/10/pykde5-status PyKDE5 Status [13:07] Riddell: FWIW I probably won't be doing Kubuntu stuff this week [13:07] much magic happening at Randa [13:07] so much coffee, chocolate, hacking :3 [13:08] shadeslayer: ah but do you have ice cream? [13:09] yes [13:09] well [13:09] hmm [13:09] kinda [13:09] but I can forego ice cream in lieu of chocolate [13:09] and beer [13:09] shadeslayer: ah, but do you have a tomato plant? [13:09] no [13:09] we have mountains [13:09] mountains > tomato plant [13:09] fair enough [13:09] Riddell: also, we have ice and we have cream [13:10] 2 things are always better than one ;) [13:10] clever [13:14] Riddell: can you reproduce this: https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B-ihXi2hkCPfaUxrYzF6Q3A0Qzg/edit?usp=sharing ? [13:14] Riddell: when you create a new text file in dolphin it has two lines and two empty spaces in the first line [13:23] kdeuser56: yep [13:23] investigate /usr/share/templates/TextFile.desktop [13:24] Riddell: thats a .desktop file ... why investigate this? [13:25] because that's what is used to make the template file [13:25] Riddell: URL=.source/TextFile.txt ??? [13:30] libkonq5-templates: /usr/share/templates/.source/TextFile.txt [13:38] Riddell: I finally removed nepomuk from the release pocket after finding a couple more things that depended on it (for some reason korundum never got updated). [13:41] ah, nepomuk, you will not be missed [13:41] I wonder if any tears will be shed whenever akonadi is replaced [13:42] I doubt that very much Riddell :) it's an uneeded ball and chain [13:43] for a lot of users [13:44] wish it could be untied from the kubuntu-desktop [13:44] Riddell: Have you seen my comments of yesterday about the Utopic daily iso with LVM + LUKS? (In short, it's broken) [13:47] lordievader: nope I haven't [13:47] what's up? [13:49] Riddell: For me it is broken (hope it is specific to my vm): bug #1354679 [13:49] bug 1354679 in ubiquity (Ubuntu) "Intitialisation of encrypted volume failed" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1354679 [14:02] http://www.fpaste.org/124476/14076791/ [14:02] Im trying to install kdevelop on kubuntu 14.10 [14:02] Can someone help me out here? [14:02] ssareen: any ppas? [14:04] ssareen: do you use any third party repos? [14:04] nope [14:04] Its a fresh installation [14:05] sudo apt-add-repository ppa:kubuntu-ppa/backports [14:05] I did run this before sudo apt-get install kdevelop [14:05] ssareen: oh okay, then you have ppas [14:06] ssareen: have you used sudo apt-get update? [14:06] ssareen: after adding the ppa? [14:06] yup [14:06] ssareen: why do you need the backports ppa on utopic? [14:06] I didnt need it [14:07] I saw a link online [14:07] ssareen: why did you add it then? [14:07] which asked me to add them [14:07] So I did [14:08] ssareen: try "sudo add-apt-repository --remove ppa:kubuntu-ppa/backports && sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install kdevelop" [14:08] Okay [14:09] ssareen: but i guess that wont change much as the backports ppa does not support utopic (14.10) [14:09] feed branches-next had 17 updates, showing the latest 6 [14:10] ssareen: have you enabled -proposed [14:10] if so, please disable it [14:11] What is that> [14:11] ? [14:11] How do I disable it? [14:11] Im running a fresh installation [14:11] ssareen: the proposed repository ... have a look at /etc/apt/sources.list [14:13] ssareen: search the file for "proposed" and remove that line [14:13] Okay [14:17] can we please not do support in here? [14:19] apachelogger: ok, ssareen please move over to #kubuntu if you still got that problem [14:20] No success [14:20] I didnt find proposed [14:20] Aagh moving into kububtu [14:21] ssareen: I guess there is nothing I can do to help you, stick to kubuntu 14.04, looks like a packaging conflict [14:21] Okay [14:38] Riddell: utopic: is it okay for digikam to depend on khelpcenter4 | khelpcenter even when khelpcenter is only in ppa [14:40] allee: yeah sure [14:42] sounds wrong [14:43] digikam has no relationship with khelpcenter, at best there is one with any application that is capable of displaying kde html documentation and/or docbook [14:43] should suggest not depend [14:43] secondly since khelpcenter is (apparently) compatible with kde4 stuff khelpcenter ought to provide khelpcenter4 as to meet recommends etc. on khelpcenter4 [14:48] apachelogger, Riddell: it's only digikam-doc. it depends on khelpcenter4 [14:48] same degree of wrong really [14:49] I can see why it's tempted to do so [14:49] but really why is there a separate doc package anyway? [14:49] allee: you updating to 4.2? [14:49] apachelogger: Why Installing do but no user friendly tool to read it? [14:49] Riddell: yes I'm trying [14:49] great [14:49] to work on 4.2 [14:50] but quilt is driving me crazy. Need to refresh knowlegde ;-) [14:50] allee: if you install kde-l10n-de you have translations but neither ki18n to load them nor the applications needing them :P [14:56] apachelogger: can khelpcenter4 provide khelpcenter and vice versa? [15:02] so all kde 4 pkgs can suggest/recommend/depend khelpcenter and KF5 dependen pkg can s/r/d on khelpcenter [15:02] if it's suggest/rec/depend should then be scripted and update for all -doc pkgs. [15:09] feed branches-next had 9 updates, showing the latest 6 [15:29] Riddell: is there a page listing how to use kubuntu-dev tools to clone digikam bzr repo, unpack the orig.tar and add an additional patch? I did all by hand and #$^$ something up. [15:31] Ah, 2.) when I have a bzr repo updates for digikam 4.2 how/whom to submit? ( I've no commit right to kubuntu-packagers) [15:39] allee: probably lots of docs spread about which gives some clues [15:40] allee: push to your own branch and merge request it [15:40] bzr push lp:~allee/kubuntu-packaging/digikam [15:40] and do a merge request on launchpad [15:41] okay. Thx! [16:09] feed branches-next had 20 updates, showing the latest 6 [16:14] allee: and poking this channel may help to get a quicker review [16:21] :-) [16:38] oh I put 4.13.97 into trusty kubuntu-ppa/backports when it should have been in beta [16:41] hmm and there's still an overlapping file which I thought I'd fixed [16:41] http://qa.kubuntu.co.uk/plasma-status/build_status_5.0.1_utopic.html <-- if anyone wants some ninja fun [16:41] Riddell: What would you think of trying to package pykde5 as a git snapshot? [16:44] ScottK: would be great in kubuntu-ppa/experimental along with other unreleased bits of stuff using frameworks [16:44] I'll have a look. [16:44] and he did give a list of working packages so seems worth looking at [16:45] PyQt5 may need some build system work to go with it. [16:45] Yep. [16:52] * Riddell out [18:34] hey, do you guys use XMPP? [18:34] yes [18:35] that's equivalent to asking "Do you breathe" these days [18:35] shadeslayer: what server do you use? [18:36] ovidiu-florin: Bitbee, xmpp via IRC :D [18:37] aha, thank you [18:37] I was thinking of deploying my own [18:39] ovidiu-florin: Bitlbee ain't a xmpp server, but it is a nice bridge between IRC and XMPP. [18:40] Google Talk/Facebook/KDE Talk [18:44] shadeslayer: I just created an account on KDETalk [18:44] care to add eachother so I cat test it out? [20:46] Quintasan, if you are around: I am going to close https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=333649, as the guy never gave any feedback. [20:46] KDE bug 333649 in Playlist "everytime when i open Amarok an error is message is being displayed" [Normal,Needsinfo: waitingforinfo] [20:48] actually: you never reacted to his feedback, so I will leave it open for now