[01:52] <ScottK> Riddell: All migrated now.
[08:27] <lordievader> Good morning.
[10:58] <BluesKaj> 'Morning all
[12:23] <Riddell> ScottK: super, high five, what needed doing?
[13:04] <Riddell> ScottK: https://blogs.kde.org/2014/08/10/pykde5-status PyKDE5 Status 
[13:07] <shadeslayer> Riddell: FWIW I probably won't be doing Kubuntu stuff this week
[13:07] <shadeslayer> much magic happening at Randa
[13:07] <shadeslayer> so much coffee, chocolate, hacking :3
[13:08] <Riddell> shadeslayer: ah but do you have ice cream?
[13:09] <shadeslayer> yes
[13:09] <shadeslayer> well
[13:09] <Riddell> hmm
[13:09] <shadeslayer> kinda
[13:09] <shadeslayer> but I can forego ice cream in lieu of chocolate
[13:09] <shadeslayer> and beer
[13:09] <Riddell> shadeslayer: ah, but do you have a tomato plant?
[13:09] <shadeslayer> no
[13:09] <shadeslayer> we have mountains
[13:09] <shadeslayer> mountains > tomato plant
[13:09] <Riddell> fair enough
[13:09] <shadeslayer> Riddell: also, we have ice and we have cream
[13:10] <shadeslayer> 2 things are always better than one ;)
[13:10] <Riddell> clever
[13:14] <kdeuser56> Riddell: can you reproduce this: https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B-ihXi2hkCPfaUxrYzF6Q3A0Qzg/edit?usp=sharing ?
[13:14] <kdeuser56> Riddell: when you create a new text file in dolphin it has two lines and two empty spaces in the first line
[13:23] <Riddell> kdeuser56: yep
[13:23] <Riddell> investigate /usr/share/templates/TextFile.desktop
[13:24] <kdeuser56> Riddell: thats a .desktop file ... why investigate this?
[13:25] <Riddell> because that's what is used to make the template file
[13:25] <kdeuser56> Riddell: URL=.source/TextFile.txt ???
[13:30] <Riddell> libkonq5-templates: /usr/share/templates/.source/TextFile.txt
[13:38] <ScottK> Riddell: I finally removed nepomuk from the release pocket after finding a couple more things that depended on it (for some reason korundum never got updated).
[13:41] <Riddell> ah, nepomuk, you will not be missed
[13:41] <Riddell> I wonder if any tears will be shed whenever akonadi is replaced
[13:42] <BluesKaj> I doubt that very much Riddell :) it's an uneeded ball and chain
[13:43] <BluesKaj> for a lot of users
[13:44] <BluesKaj> wish it could be untied from the kubuntu-desktop
[13:44] <lordievader> Riddell: Have you seen my comments of yesterday about the Utopic daily iso with LVM + LUKS? (In short, it's broken)
[13:47] <Riddell> lordievader: nope I haven't
[13:47] <Riddell> what's up?
[13:49] <lordievader> Riddell: For me it is broken (hope it is specific to my vm): bug #1354679
[14:02] <ssareen> http://www.fpaste.org/124476/14076791/
[14:02] <ssareen> Im trying to install kdevelop on kubuntu 14.10
[14:02] <ssareen> Can someone help me out here?
[14:02] <kdeuser56> ssareen: any ppas?
[14:04] <kdeuser56> ssareen: do you use any third party repos?
[14:04] <ssareen> nope
[14:04] <ssareen> Its a fresh installation
[14:05] <ssareen> sudo apt-add-repository ppa:kubuntu-ppa/backports
[14:05] <ssareen> I did run this before sudo apt-get install kdevelop
[14:05] <kdeuser56> ssareen: oh okay, then you have ppas
[14:06] <kdeuser56> ssareen: have you used sudo apt-get update?
[14:06] <kdeuser56> ssareen: after adding the ppa?
[14:06] <ssareen> yup
[14:06] <kdeuser56> ssareen: why do you need the backports ppa on utopic?
[14:06] <ssareen> I didnt need it
[14:07] <ssareen> I saw a link online
[14:07] <kdeuser56> ssareen: why did you add it then?
[14:07] <ssareen> which asked me to add them
[14:07] <ssareen> So I did
[14:08] <kdeuser56> ssareen: try "sudo add-apt-repository --remove ppa:kubuntu-ppa/backports && sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install kdevelop"
[14:08] <ssareen> Okay
[14:09] <kdeuser56> ssareen: but i guess that wont change much as the backports ppa does not support utopic (14.10)
[14:09] <kubotu> feed branches-next had 17 updates, showing the latest 6
[14:10] <shadeslayer> ssareen: have you enabled -proposed
[14:10] <shadeslayer> if so, please disable it
[14:11] <ssareen> What is that>
[14:11] <ssareen> ?
[14:11] <ssareen> How do I disable it?
[14:11] <ssareen> Im running a fresh installation
[14:11] <kdeuser56> ssareen: the proposed repository ... have a look at /etc/apt/sources.list
[14:13] <kdeuser56> ssareen: search the file for "proposed" and remove that line
[14:13] <ssareen> Okay
[14:17] <apachelogger> can we please not do support in here?
[14:19] <kdeuser56> apachelogger: ok, ssareen please move over to #kubuntu if you still got that problem
[14:20] <ssareen> No success
[14:20] <ssareen> I didnt find proposed 
[14:20] <ssareen> Aagh moving into kububtu
[14:21] <kdeuser56> ssareen: I guess there is nothing I can do to help you, stick to kubuntu 14.04, looks like a packaging conflict
[14:21] <ssareen> Okay
[14:38] <allee> Riddell: utopic: is it okay for digikam to depend on khelpcenter4 | khelpcenter even when khelpcenter is only in ppa
[14:40] <Riddell> allee: yeah sure
[14:42] <apachelogger> sounds wrong
[14:43] <apachelogger> digikam has no relationship with khelpcenter, at best there is one with any application that is capable of displaying kde html documentation and/or docbook
[14:43] <Riddell> should suggest not depend
[14:43] <apachelogger> secondly since khelpcenter is (apparently) compatible with kde4 stuff khelpcenter ought to provide khelpcenter4 as to meet recommends etc. on khelpcenter4
[14:48] <allee> apachelogger, Riddell: it's only digikam-doc.  it depends on khelpcenter4 
[14:48] <apachelogger> same degree of wrong really
[14:49] <Riddell> I can see why it's tempted to do so
[14:49] <Riddell> but really why is there a separate doc package anyway?
[14:49] <Riddell> allee: you updating to 4.2?
[14:49] <allee> apachelogger: Why  Installing do but no user friendly  tool to read it?
[14:49] <allee> Riddell: yes I'm trying
[14:49] <Riddell> great
[14:49] <allee> to work on 4.2
[14:50] <allee> but quilt is driving me crazy.  Need to refresh knowlegde ;-)
[14:50] <apachelogger> allee: if you install kde-l10n-de you have translations but neither ki18n to load them nor the applications needing them :P
[14:56] <allee> apachelogger: can khelpcenter4 provide khelpcenter and vice versa?  
[15:02] <allee> so all kde 4 pkgs can suggest/recommend/depend khelpcenter and  KF5 dependen pkg can s/r/d on khelpcenter
[15:02] <allee> if it's suggest/rec/depend should then be scripted and update for all -doc pkgs.
[15:09] <kubotu> feed branches-next had 9 updates, showing the latest 6
[15:29] <allee> Riddell: is there a page listing  how to use kubuntu-dev tools to clone  digikam bzr repo, unpack the orig.tar and  add an additional patch?  I did all by hand  and #$^$ something  up.
[15:31] <allee> Ah, 2.) when I have a bzr repo updates for digikam 4.2 how/whom to submit? ( I've no commit right to kubuntu-packagers)
[15:39] <Riddell> allee: probably lots of docs spread about which gives some clues
[15:40] <Riddell> allee: push to your own branch and merge request it
[15:40] <Riddell> bzr push lp:~allee/kubuntu-packaging/digikam
[15:40] <Riddell> and do a merge request on launchpad
[15:41] <allee> okay. Thx!
[16:09] <kubotu> feed branches-next had 20 updates, showing the latest 6
[16:14] <Riddell> allee: and poking this channel may help to get a quicker review
[16:21] <allee> :-)
[16:38] <Riddell> oh I put 4.13.97 into trusty kubuntu-ppa/backports when it should have been in beta
[16:41] <Riddell> hmm and there's still an overlapping file which I thought I'd fixed
[16:41] <Riddell> http://qa.kubuntu.co.uk/plasma-status/build_status_5.0.1_utopic.html <-- if anyone wants some ninja fun
[16:41] <ScottK> Riddell: What would you think of trying to package pykde5 as a git snapshot?
[16:44] <Riddell> ScottK: would be great in kubuntu-ppa/experimental along with other unreleased bits of stuff using frameworks 
[16:44] <ScottK> I'll have a look.
[16:44] <Riddell> and he did give a list of working packages so seems worth looking at
[16:45] <ScottK> PyQt5 may need some build system work to go with it.
[16:45] <ScottK> Yep.
[16:52]  * Riddell out
[18:34] <ovidiu-florin> hey, do you guys use XMPP?
[18:34] <shadeslayer> yes
[18:35] <shadeslayer> that's equivalent to asking "Do you breathe" these days
[18:35] <ovidiu-florin> shadeslayer: what server do you use?
[18:36] <lordievader> ovidiu-florin: Bitbee, xmpp via IRC :D
[18:37] <ovidiu-florin> aha, thank you
[18:37] <ovidiu-florin> I was thinking of deploying my own
[18:39] <lordievader> ovidiu-florin: Bitlbee ain't a xmpp server, but it is a nice bridge between IRC and XMPP.
[18:40] <shadeslayer> Google Talk/Facebook/KDE Talk
[18:44] <ovidiu-florin> shadeslayer: I just created an account on KDETalk
[18:44] <ovidiu-florin> care to add eachother so I cat test it out?
[20:46] <Mamarok> Quintasan, if you are around: I am going to close https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=333649, as the guy never gave any feedback.
[20:48] <Mamarok> actually: you never reacted to his feedback, so I will leave it open for now