[07:31] <darkxst> ricotz, you want to test ppa:darkxst/systemd? thinking of copying it into -staging soon
[07:32] <jcbjoe_> hi this has probably been asked 500 times i will be 501 .. whats up with not being able to put icons on deskto of gnome
[07:33] <jcbjoe_> i just installed gnome within gnome lol and it looks like old gnome but i still can't put icons on desktop
[07:34] <jcbjoe_> meh
[07:34] <jcbjoe_> i like xfce anyway
[07:34] <jcbjoe_> thanks
[07:35] <ricotz> darkxst, hi, i don't think i can, please don't copy it though -- i assume this doesnt include the ubuntu specific changes, and is just a copy of experimental-git?
[07:35] <darkxst> ricotz, it has all the ubuntu patches and works fine with upstart
[07:36] <ricotz> darkxst, oh really, does pitti know about this package?
[07:36] <ricotz> i am more concerned about lxc though
[07:38] <darkxst> ricotz, yes pitti knows, though it won't go into ubuntu until its in debian
[07:38] <darkxst> I don't really use the lxc stuff
[07:40] <ricotz> darkxst, i see, i assumed this is a debian branch since there is no mention of the ubuntu changes in the changelog
[07:40] <ricotz> so the changes of "208-7ubuntu1" are included?
[07:41] <darkxst> https://bitbucket.org/unit193/systemd/src/d62e15dbfcf72f2399ea614c01bc8c4afb278c6c/debian/changelog?at=wip/unit193/experimental
[07:45] <ricotz> darkxst, who is "Unit 193"? i would prefer to have it based on the current release to avoid creating confusions and regressions
[07:46] <darkxst> it should have everything up to 208-7ubuntu2
[07:46] <darkxst> Xubuntu dev
[07:46] <ricotz> ok, again the changelog says otherwise
[07:49] <ricotz> e.g. python-systemd <-> python3-systemd
[08:02] <darkxst> hmm that is missing from the ubuntu changelog also
[08:03] <ricotz> it is far from 208-7ubuntu2
[08:11] <darkxst> maybe it was actually 208-6ubuntu2
[09:27] <darkxst> ricotz, oh, the debian 214 branch was out of date (missing most of 208-7)
[11:41] <RuudschMaHinda> hello there!
[11:42] <RuudschMaHinda> does anybody know. if there is a way to change from imap to pop3 in evolution? it doesn't give me the option either when adding an account or when later trying to edit it! I really really need it!
[11:48] <RuudschMaHinda> bump
[11:50] <RuudschMaHinda> nobody uses pop on evolution in here?
[11:51] <darkxst>  RuudschMaHinda nobody uses pop anymore!
[11:51] <RuudschMaHinda> darkxst: lol.. I do.. because some freemail providers only save mails for 30 days..
[11:51] <RuudschMaHinda> and I am not nobody
[11:51] <RuudschMaHinda> ;)
[11:52] <RuudschMaHinda> still, how can I choose pop? it says I can in the online documentation, but I can't anywhere in the install..
[11:53] <RuudschMaHinda> are there any advanced flags I can check?
[11:55] <RuudschMaHinda> well then.. back to thunderbird for me then..
[11:57] <RuudschMaHinda> I allready had to install another terminal since the original one has a transparency slider but officially no transparency except when looking at the about screen, and now evolution won't let me choose how to access my mails.. this day sucks! I just switched to a brand new gnome install and frustration ensues.. >:(
[11:59] <RuudschMaHinda> and noobody on here nor on the official evolution channel knows anything.. or stops replying once I tell them that there is no option to choose from... what the heck..
[11:59] <RuudschMaHinda> sorry for venting on here, but I am really pissed at the moment..
[11:59] <RuudschMaHinda> google only shows reults for older versions of evolution as well..
[12:02] <darkxst> RuudschMaHinda, I really don't know what answers you are looking for?
[12:03] <RuudschMaHinda> I want to know how to tell evolution to use POP instead of IMAP
[12:03] <RuudschMaHinda> [13:42:37] <RuudschMaHinda> does anybody know. if there is a way to change from imap to pop3 in evolution? it doesn't give me the option either when adding an account or when later trying to edit it! I really really need it!
[12:03] <darkxst> RuudschMaHinda, no idea
[12:03] <darkxst> I suspect it should work, but never tried
[12:04] <RuudschMaHinda> so did I.. and it doesn't :(
[12:04] <darkxst> so file a bug ;)
[12:06] <RuudschMaHinda> at first I want to know if it is one, or just my stupidity...
[12:06] <RuudschMaHinda> I haven't used evolution in years
[12:08] <darkxst> RuudschMaHinda, I see pop when setting a new account in evo
[12:08] <RuudschMaHinda> very strange.. which mail provider do you use?
[12:09] <darkxst> you can't change an already setup account
[12:09] <darkxst> RuudschMaHinda, my own
[12:10] <RuudschMaHinda> ok.. so if I add a new account I get the configuration assistant.. may be there is another way than that assistant.
[12:11] <darkxst> I guess recognised providers skip most steps
[12:11] <darkxst> I still don't understand why you want to use POP though
[12:12] <RuudschMaHinda> because two of my freemail providers delete mails after 30 days..
[12:12] <darkxst> RuudschMaHinda, find new mail providers ;)
[12:13] <RuudschMaHinda> haha.. I don't like imap because with pop I can delete the mails from their servers and still keep them on my own
[12:14] <darkxst> your doing it wrong then ;)
[12:15] <RuudschMaHinda> how would you do it?
[12:15] <RuudschMaHinda> H O L Y F U * K
[12:16] <darkxst> copy the emails you want to save, to a local email account
[12:16] <RuudschMaHinda> going BACK after it gets the details gets you to a screen where to choose protocolls!
[12:38] <Paddy_NI> If I wanted to upgrade/install the latest stable Gnome on Ubuntu 14.04 would I use the "Staging PPA" or the "Gnome Team PPA"?
[12:38] <Paddy_NI> Or both?
[12:41] <darkxst> Paddy_NI, right now everything is on gnome3-staging, but will likely move to gnome3 ppa soon
[12:41] <darkxst> ^3.12 that is, gnome3-staging will become 3.13 soon
[12:41] <Paddy_NI> Okay thank you :-)
[13:16] <LinDol> hi all
[13:27] <SonikkuAmerica> Yo
[19:51] <georgelappies> hi all