[00:00] <chubboes> sacrelicious: just saying since I had ubuntu 1 week I reinstalled the whole thing like every day
[00:00] <olivier__> Beldar, here is the bootinfoscript: http://dpaste.com/3AA8RB7
[00:02] <sacrelicious> apparently theres a possible fix about checking a box for source code in the ubuntu register?
[00:02] <sacrelicious> i have no idea what that means though
[00:03] <DoverMo> sacrelicious, within your software source settings
[00:03] <ovrflw0x> where can i download other themes for unity?
[00:03] <ovrflw0x> how to remove "Displays" from "System settings" in Unity
[00:03] <Beldar> olivier__, Two problems elementary is not supported here, and for windows you are missing what was probably the boot partition. Just as info you are missing /bootmgr /Boot/BCD  in windows tis can be fixed with a recovery or install disc. That is all I can say you are not supported with either here.
[00:04] <OerHeks> !themes
[00:05] <OerHeks> webupd8 reports lot of themes too
[00:05] <sacrelicious> Okay, so the box next to source code has a "-" next to it instead of a check?
[00:06] <olivier__> Beldar, ok thanks to you, I was thinking grub can boot windows without using windows mbr
[00:07] <sacrelicious> WTF. I can't download anything from the software center, and now its claiming no package named firefox exists?
[00:10] <Beldar> olivier__, The mbr is not the issue.
[00:10] <Beldar> you are missing key windows boot stuff
[00:10] <mikeg31> What is the easiest command line editor to use to edit a file in Ubuntu for a Unix newbie?
[00:10]  * tome likes nano
[00:10] <expunge> mikeg31: nano -uw
[00:11] <Beldar> mikeg31, ubuntu is not unix
[00:11] <Kira9204> hands down nano
[00:11] <ovrflw0x> hi Kira9204
[00:11] <expunge> Beldar: sure it is
[00:11] <expunge> joe's a lot like nano, too
[00:11] <expunge> but nano is more prevalent
[00:11] <Kira9204> if you want something more advanced with highlighting and whatever i can recommend vim
[00:11] <olivier__> Beldar, shit it was probably on one of the 2 partition that I have deleted (a recovery one, and another), thanks for your help, I will try windows 7 boot repair
[00:11] <Beldar> it is linux technically different
[00:11] <expunge> Vim takes up-front learning
[00:12] <expunge> Beldar: Linux is a kernel
[00:12] <ovrflw0x> Beldar, olivier__  cussed
[00:12] <Beldar> expunge, Yes I know.
[00:12] <ovrflw0x> Beldar, olivier__ used nasty word show him the usual message
[00:12] <expunge> it's true that Unix is not Linux, one is an OS, one is a kernel
[00:12] <expunge> qutie profound
[00:12] <expunge> and also quite
[00:13] <Beldar> don't make broad generalizations than use a exact definition at the same time expunge
[00:13] <expunge> I don't make the generalizations, I just use'm
[00:13] <Beldar> expunge, You claimed ubuntu was unix
[00:13] <sacrelicious> someone please help -_-"
[00:13] <sacrelicious> I can not install any software, at all.
[00:13] <Beldar> it's not technically
[00:14] <Beldar> that is a broad generalization
[00:14] <Kira9204> sacrelicious: what version are you on?
[00:14] <sacrelicious> 13.04
[00:15] <mikeg31> Let me explain my problem a little further…I am using Ubuntu 14.10.  I cannot stop the system from autologging me in. I think the answer to my problem is here: http://askubuntu.com/questions/106428/how-to-disable-automatic-login, but the biggest obstacle for me now is easiest and safest way to edit system files
[00:15] <user2> who is he, and what is he to you, ooh girl
[00:15] <Beldar> !14.10 | mikeg31
[00:15] <expunge> Beldar: sure it is, an inventor of Unix even said so
[00:15] <qwd> Ubuntu 14.04 on Thinkpad x230. I turn off touchpad to use only trackpoint but it keeps reactivating itself, any idea how to stop this so I don't have to go back to mouse settings all the time?
[00:15] <expunge> nothing personal, I take his assessment over yours
[00:16] <mikeg31> excuse me 14.04 sorry
[00:16] <Kira9204> sacrelicious: thats quite an old release
[00:16] <Kira9204> sacrelicious: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Releases
[00:16] <sacrelicious> Kira9204, I keep getting an error "check your internet connection"
[00:16] <Beldar> expunge, Your rhetoric is contrived, you are back pedaling, you should have said nothing, let the ego go and move on.
[00:16] <_jack_> qwd: you probably have to set an xorg rule
[00:16] <mmiller14> mmiller13: ??
[00:16] <expunge> Beldar: I'll get right on that =P
[00:17] <kostkon> sacrelicious, 13.04 repos are dead. You need to upgrade to a supported release
[00:17] <_jack_> on arch you could just remove x86-input-synaptics :)
[00:17] <sacrelicious> Kira9204, I know, but I need to run it at the moment, I'm running on a laptop with a cracked screen using HDMI, until I can repair it (a few weeks from now) if I upgrade it, It will end up in extend mode with HDMI, instead of Clone mode.
[00:17] <sacrelicious> rendering my machine useless.
[00:17] <ovrflw0x> how can i run a script at startup of unity?
[00:18] <sacrelicious> eh... i'll give it a shot anyway.
[00:18] <Kira9204> sacrelicious: isn't that a bios setting?
[00:18] <Beldar> mikeg31, This a server?
[00:19] <sacrelicious> Kira9204, i dunno.
[00:19] <Kira9204> sacrelicious: like, you can switch on the keyboard
[00:19] <Kira9204> most laptops can
[00:19] <sacrelicious> Kira9204, just ran update manager. it says "failed to download repository information, check your internet connection"
[00:19] <Kira9204> sacrelicious: yeah, the repository is down
[00:20] <sacrelicious> Kira9204, oh, ok. so its not just me then?
[00:20] <ovrflw0x> how can i run a script at startup of unity?
[00:20] <Kira9204> no
[00:20] <sacrelicious> oh, whew... I thought something might really be wrong with my computer.
[00:21] <ImJune> does anyone know any good tutorials for 1.6 (video)
[00:21] <Kira9204> sacrelicious: well, since you are not at it at the moment(?) You can try to ping google.com?
[00:21] <ImJune> Im done with the basics
[00:21] <ImJune> oopps wrong room
[00:21] <Kira9204> (typing from the computer that is)
[00:22] <daftykins> sacrelicious: what version is this?
[00:23] <sacrelicious> Kira9204, how?
[00:23] <sacrelicious> daftykins, of linux? 13.04
[00:23] <Kira9204> sacrelicious: are you sitting at the computer in cloed mode right now?
[00:23] <sacrelicious> Kira9204, yep
[00:23] <daftykins> sacrelicious: that's been dead a fairly long time.
[00:23] <daftykins> !raring
[00:24] <daftykins> sacrelicious: i assume you're aware of this fact?
[00:24] <sacrelicious> daftykins, well, I am now.
[00:24] <Basketball> !trusty
[00:24] <Basketball> !ringtail
[00:24] <sacrelicious> i'm gonna run the update, seems the repository is back.
[00:24] <rrsemple> hi I am having an issue with Ubuntu 12.04.   I have no sound output from my PC.
[00:24] <rrsemple> I tested my speakers and they are fine
[00:24] <daftykins> sacrelicious: ok, so basically you canot be assisted with anything on that version in here, until you upgrade it to a supported release (12.04.5 or 14.04.1)
[00:24] <Basketball> !13.10
[00:24] <Kira9204> sacrelicious: ok, can you try to ping google.com from the terminal?
[00:24] <rrsemple> pulseaudio volume control shows the volume sliders / graphs displaying sound
[00:25] <rrsemple> and volume is turned up / mute is off
[00:25] <sacrelicious> Kira9204, just did.
[00:25] <rrsemple> I tried 2 different sound cards
[00:25] <daftykins> Basketball: if you're going to abuse the bot, please private message it
[00:25] <sacrelicious> daftykins, i'm trying up upgrade now, but its not working.
[00:25] <Basketball> sorry i was tring to remember what 13.10 was called
[00:25] <daftykins> sacrelicious: you'd have to upgrade twice, so your best bet is to backup and clean install
[00:25] <sacrelicious> daftykins, i can't do that at the moment.
[00:25] <sacrelicious> what other options do i have?
[00:26] <daftykins> sacrelicious: depends what you're trying to achieve, today
[00:26] <Kira9204> sacrelicious: if you are lucky sudo do-release-upgrade might work
[00:26] <sacrelicious> daftykins, well, this all started when I was trying to watch a bloody live stream, removed my browser, tried to install it, and realized it wouldnt work.
[00:26] <daftykins> hah, whoops.
[00:26] <Kira9204> sacrelicious: but i'd recommend a clean install of 14.004
[00:27] <Kira9204> *14.04
[00:27] <OerHeks> !eolupgrade
[00:27] <daftykins> Kira9204: no it's not going to work.
[00:27] <OerHeks> EOLupgrades gives a hack to use the old repo's..
[00:28] <daftykins> sacrelicious: see the last link in OerHeks's bot trigger, you can at least get a browser back. once you fix your screen you really should upgrade though (via clean install)
[00:29] <sacrelicious> do-release-upgrade is, in fact, working.
[00:29] <sacrelicious> booya.
[00:29] <daftykins> that seems unlikely
[00:29] <sacrelicious> thanks to everyone who has helped :)
[00:29] <daftykins> what's it doing, upgrading to 13.10 ?
[00:30] <sacrelicious> no clue.
[00:30] <daftykins> pretty sure you're in for an interesting night :)
[00:30] <daftykins> as i said, bad idea.
[00:30] <sacrelicious> should I just kill the upgrade process?
[00:30] <daftykins> depends how important using that machine is to you
[00:30] <sacrelicious> very.
[00:31] <daftykins> and how good your backups are...
[00:31] <sacrelicious> dont have any =/
[00:31] <daftykins> yeah, i knew that was coming.
[00:31] <sacrelicious> kill it?
[00:31]  * Beldar waits for the nah..nah ...nah..nah .. nah it worked later with no real conformation of a stable system
[00:32] <sacrelicious> hrm...i'll figure this out
[00:33] <sacrelicious> i'll do a clean install when I can... only question is - if I do one, will my HDMI start in clone mode, or in extend mode, by default?
[00:33] <daftykins> i didn't really get why you believed that installing in a given state would do one thing over another
[00:33] <daftykins> either way, things can be resolved
[00:33] <daftykins> what was up did you say? cracked screen? they're easy jobs
[00:33] <Leo_Verto> I'm trying to install 14.04.1 via pxe, can enter the installer and start setting stuff up but the installer fails to get a network configuration
[00:34] <Leo_Verto> from wireshark, it looks like the client is dead
[00:34] <Leo_Verto> manual network configuration didn't work either
[00:35] <daftykins> do you see the DHCP discovery packets?
[00:35] <Leo_Verto> nope
[00:36] <Kira9204> sacrelicious: seems like you are in for an intresting ride, i would had just backed up everything and done a clean tho
[00:36] <sacrelicious> Kira9204, yeah fair enough.
[00:36] <sacrelicious> anyway... i appreciate the help from everyone
[00:36] <Leo_Verto> I think something with the interface setup is wrong
[00:36] <daftykins> sounds about right, yep.
[00:36] <Leo_Verto> but this is just a generic gigabit eithernet port
[00:36] <daftykins> Leo_Verto: right but the client first gets an IP to boot over PXE, so maybe it's already configured
[00:37] <daftykins> i have no direct experience with that though so nevermind
[00:38] <Leo_Verto> well, the same thing already happened with a live-usb
[00:39] <Kira9204> sounds like a driver issue to me then
[00:39] <Kira9204> PXE loads an image into RAM and then boots from it
[00:40] <Leo_Verto> well, in /etc/network/devnames the ethernet controller is detected and assigned eth0
[00:40] <Kira9204> hmm, then it should have a driver for it...
[00:41] <Leo_Verto> I found this http://askubuntu.com/a/463125 which mentions a kernel parameter
[00:41] <Leo_Verto> and references a 404 document
[00:43] <Kira9204> Leo_Verto: what does lspci | grep Ethernet
[00:44] <Kira9204> output
[00:44] <Kira9204> does it find what it should?
[00:44] <Leo_Verto> yep
[00:44] <Kira9204> have you tried to force a DHCP update?
[00:45] <Leo_Verto> yeah
[00:45] <Kira9204> sudo ifdown eth0 && sudo ifup eth0
[00:46] <Leo_Verto> trying a live usb now, this shell doesn't have ifdown and ifup
[00:48] <Kira9204> Leo_Verto: just to ensure that the DHCP server isn't at fault here, have you tried to set a static IP?
[00:48] <Kira9204> should be pretty straightforward now that you are using a liveusb
[00:49] <Leo_Verto> set a static IP, I've found some pretty specific forum posts
[00:49] <Leo_Verto> pretty sure it's a mobo problem
[00:49] <Leo_Verto> that would also explain some usb ports not working
[00:49] <Oog> i have nginx-full 1.6.0-1+saucy0 installed - i want to install 1.6.1 because of the recent SMTP security issue. any idea when it will come out?
[00:50] <daftykins> Oog: what version are you on? "cat /etc/issue"
[00:50] <Oog> Ubuntu 14.04.1
[00:51] <Oog> daftykins: i updated :D
[00:51] <awesomess3> mine says: Ubuntu 14.04 LTS \n \l
[00:51] <awesomess3> what does the \n and \l mean?
[00:51] <Leo_Verto> yay
[00:51] <daftykins> Oog: good stuff, i thought it was you. the answer is don't know - try and track down the person that packages nginx maybe.
[00:52] <Leo_Verto> apparently this issue is specific to this one motherboard type, but someone found a fix for it
[00:52] <Leo_Verto> thanks a lot for the help daftykins and Kira9204 :D
[00:52] <Kira9204> Leo_Verto: np :D
[00:52] <daftykins> Leo_Verto: what board out of interest?
[00:52] <Leo_Verto> Gigabyte GA-990FXA-UD7
[00:53] <_Bah> laptops bluetooth is enabled ok, no soft or hard block. It can be seen by other devices, but not connected to nor can it discover the other devices. Ideas?
[00:53] <daftykins> Leo_Verto: hmm AMD fun - looked into BIOS updates i take it? (obviously that's risky)
[00:54] <Leo_Verto> latest bios
[00:54] <Leo_Verto> had to enable the IOMMU controller, whatever that is
[00:54] <daftykins> heh
[00:57] <darksider> hi guys
[00:57] <darksider> anyone with autofs experience?
[01:00] <expunge> darksider: probably someone
[01:00] <darksider> im sure of thst, i just wonder if that someone is around and willing to give a hand :_
[01:00] <darksider> :)
[01:01] <daftykins> ask the actual question and then you'll find out
[01:01] <darksider> i have a network share at 192.168.0.10/DSTCND that i want to mount in /mnt/DSTCND
[01:01] <daftykins> also try to ask it without using the enter key as punctuation
[01:01] <expunge> via what protocol?
[01:02] <f00fSteR> dstcnd protocol of course!
[01:02] <expunge> 'course
[01:03] <x9> my wifi disconnects randomly, suddenly shuts off- no access points at all
[01:03] <darksider> didn't know that know that #ubuntu turns into comedy central at night
[01:04]  * f00fSteR irc has left a distasteful mouth in my taste
[01:05] <darksider> cifs protocol
[01:05] <daftykins> darksider: why not just set it up in /etc/fstab and be done with it?
[01:06] <f00fSteR> x9: try pulling out your dongle and plugging it back in. try this repeatedly, until you see it pay off.
[01:07] <daftykins> ...
[01:07] <darksider> daftykins: making a long story short: the network is not always ready when the system boots, so the drive will not be mounted
[01:07] <x9> f00fSteR, 2 problems, 1 is its integrated, and 2, that's obviously a sex joke
[01:07] <daftykins> darksider: write a script then
[01:08] <Kira9204> x9: ah yes, i had this problem all the time with cheap wifi routers
[01:08] <Kira9204> deactivate wifi then reactivate ti
[01:08] <Kira9204> *it
[01:08] <f00fSteR> x9: modprobe -r iwlwifi && modprobe iwlwifi 11n_disable=1
[01:08] <Kira9204> or restart the router
[01:08] <TJ-> darksider: in that case use the mount option "_netdev" to tell mount not to try until the network is up
[01:08] <f00fSteR> x9: that'll disabl the buggy n mode on your dongle
[01:08] <darksider> hey TJ-
[01:09] <f00fSteR> TJ-: good one ;-)
[01:09] <TJ-> darksider: hiya ... how's it going? :)
[01:10] <darksider> great, spending the saturday night trying to crack this and everybody comes up with workarounds instead of solutions :)
[01:11] <rotzbub> ive got a nikon dsc coolpix s1200pj and am unable to read the photos of it. when i connect it, the camera wants me to open the projector and lsusb and dmesg give me no more info than "nikon connected" obviously i need to connect it via mtp but the usual tools dont know my camera....
[01:12] <daftykins> darksider: well you could look into _why_ your network comes up late
[01:12] <daftykins> darksider: is the system a laptop perhaps, with network configured by network manager - and you have manual login enabled so it takes until you login to get a connection?
[01:12] <daftykins> that'd explain it.
[01:15] <Beldar> rotzbub, I see nothing on the web for ubuntu or linux compatibility, might be some code, hope you have the time
[01:15] <darksider> daftykins: not really, but close :)
[01:15] <daftykins> darksider: how close?
[01:16] <rotzbub> Beldar: thing is, the camera was released in 2012. it even gets recognized as the correct type, but like you i find nothing. :/
[01:16] <darksider> not as close as me find a solution to this problem, I hope
[01:16] <darksider> :)
[01:17] <Beldar> rotzbub, Date of release means nothing.
[01:17] <rotzbub> oh well :(
[01:17] <rotzbub> thanks anyway
[01:18] <darksider> i have a system that turns everything on at the same time (physically) - the NAS that i want to mount takes longer to be ready
[01:19] <x9> myyyy interneetttt iss soooooo slooooooooooowww
[01:19] <daftykins> darksider: so why not remove that from the equation...
[01:20] <daftykins> darksider: it's quite amusing that you considered our suggestions workarounds, when everything's a workaround because you won't just leave it turned on / make sure to turn it on first :)
[01:22] <f00fSteR> darksider: muck u?
[01:22] <darksider> daftykins: when somebody's proposal is for me to rewire the whole thing instead of finding an easy software fix, i consider that a workaround (and not a really good one to be honest) ;)
[01:22] <daftykins> 'rewire the whole thing' ?
[01:22] <Kira9204> isnät the whole point of a NAS to leave it on?
[01:23] <daftykins> Kira9204: it is in my head :(
[01:23] <daftykins> and the rest of the world until now
[01:26] <darksider> hmmm, since conversation went way off course - I travel a lot, for days on and when I do that I turn everything off. When I come back on, I flip a switch and everything turns on at the same time, including the NAS and the ubuntu headless server
[01:27] <expunge> Kira9204: the whole point of a NAS is to sell proprietary OSes =)
[01:27] <darksider> hmm, maybe I should consider cancelling my trips, how's that for a workaround? :)
[01:27] <daftykins> it's helpful to know the background of a scenario to come up with a sensible courses of action at times. think of it as systems analysis
[01:28] <daftykins> darksider: so it's genuinely unfathomable to connect the NAS to a separate socket and leave the others in this gadget? if so i think that's ridiculous
[01:28] <Kira9204> expunge: thats why you build you own nas ;)
[01:29] <Kira9204> the pricing should not differ too much if at all
[01:29] <darksider> if i needed life / house-wiring advices, I'd probably join a different channel
[01:32] <darksider> also, the NAS also acts as a wifi access point which, for various reasons, I dont leave swithced on while im away
[01:33] <daftykins> well, good luck finding a solution to your non-issue
[01:34] <Kira9204> well, if you insist you can add a script that waits a while beforme mounting it
[01:34] <Kira9204> and adding it to rc.local
[01:34] <daftykins> yeah we get told we're working around then :(
[01:35] <darksider> my question was very specific: how to automount a network share
[01:36] <darksider> instead, I get wiring advices and sarcastic attemps
[01:36] <daftykins> you'd be surprised at the number of people that come in asking about a leaf when they had the wrong tree all the time
[01:36] <daftykins> if you have a problem with that, you're welcome to ask for a refund
[01:37] <darksider> for my wasted time?
[01:37] <darksider> consider that a present
[01:38] <Kira9204> darksider: is all you want to mount a network share? here is how i do it for sshfs cat /etc/fstab
[01:38] <Kira9204> sshfs#kira@<addr>:<dir>          /mnt/<mountpoint>     fuse    noauto,reconnect,uid=1000,allow_other,users,defaults,transform_symlinks 0 0
[01:39] <radiogenic> hey ya'll.  I'm taking the edx.org linux class and am installing 14.4 as part of the course requirements.  I found instructions online regarding how to get around the Windows 8 shenanigans but I wanted somebody to recommend me partitioning software to make that empty space (I don't want to partition with just any software.  I'm scared.)
[01:39] <radiogenic> anybody have a recommended Windows 8 partitioning software?
[01:39] <Beldar> radiogenic, yeah windows disk manager
[01:39] <radiogenic> ...o....oh....lol next you're going to tell me that windows 8 mounts .iso files natively!
[01:40] <daftykins> radiogenic: which it does XD but for the love of Tux don't try and install ubuntu that way
[01:40] <darksider> Kira9204: thanks for the advice. That's want I wanted to substitute with autofs, but people here really seem to hate that :)
[01:41] <Beldar> radiogenic, That to out of this world for you? It's the instructions straight from the mother ship.
[01:41] <darksider> I already had that set up
[01:41] <radiogenic> wait can i get the mothership instructions?  I'm on some random website.
[01:41] <daftykins> radiogenic: i'm doing LFS101x for fun too, you really ought to just virtualise if you're not comfortable installing natively
[01:41] <Kira9204> radiogenic: Gparted?
[01:41] <radiogenic> daftykins, i'm like, even less comfortable virtualizing.  never done it.
[01:42] <radiogenic> will it run way slower if I virtualize?  actually i think that's what i want to do now that i think of it
[01:42] <daftykins> radiogenic: heh, it's way easier and less risky than messing about dual-booting with win8
[01:42] <Beldar> I gave you the instructions you can lol all you want but that is how it is generally advised
[01:42] <radiogenic> okay.  yea.
[01:43] <daftykins> radiogenic: grab virtualbox from virtualbox.org, then get started :> you can always change your mind again
[01:43] <radiogenic> ok and to be clear that's not related to sandbox right?
[01:43] <radiogenic> brb
[01:43]  * radiogenic goes to virtualbox.org
[01:43] <daftykins> a VM is a *kind of* sandbox in a way, yeah
[01:43] <Beldar> oh boy play by play
[01:43] <Geo> service networking restart doesn't seem to work anymore as of 14.04; I have added a new bridge interface into /etc/network/interfaces, how do I get that to run? doing an ifup wan1 yields: "cannot find device: wan1"
[01:43] <daftykins> Beldar: perhaps we'll get the download speed stats too
[01:43] <Beldar> ;)
[01:44] <daftykins> Geo: it hasn't been the proper way to do it for years, it's generally advised to reboot sadly
[01:44] <Geo> proper or not, it worked :)
[01:44] <daftykins> i doubt it
[01:44]  * radiogenic stares at download progress
[01:44] <Geo> so that whole discussion aside, there should be some way to do this without rebooting
[01:44] <daftykins> br0 would be more likely the name of a bridge from bridge-utils
[01:46] <Geo> so there's no way to re-read the interfaces file, or even a single interface, w/o rebooting the machine is what you're saying?
[01:46] <radiogenic> my hotel's internet is 1mbit/sec...
[01:47]  * radiogenic stares harder
[01:47] <daftykins> Geo: well at the end of the day you're going to want it configured at boot, so why not just focus on getting it set right? :)
[01:47] <TJ-> Geo: ifup/ifdown is the way to do it, or if the existing interface doesn't have an entry in 'interfaces'; use "ip link set <INTERFACE> {down/up}"
[01:47] <radiogenic> hey has Linus Torvolds ever been in here?  afterall it's the biggest chatroom in the world focused on linux
[01:47] <Geo> TJ-: i added the entry to interfaces, and ifup wan1 says "cannot find device: wan1"
[01:48] <Geo> let me try your second thought
[01:48]  * Beldar stares at the ignore list, "ah a new user".
[01:48] <expunge> Kira9204: yes indeed =)
[01:49] <TJ-> Geo: If there is an entry "wlan1" in 'interfaces' then ifdown/ifup will operate on it, otherwise you need the ip2 tools or, the legacy ifconfig
[01:49] <Geo> TJ-: so ifup scans interfaces each time it is run?
[01:50] <radiogenic> wait
[01:50] <radiogenic> i have the x64 version of ubuntu
[01:50] <radiogenic> with virtualbox do i have to download the x86 version?
[01:50] <Geo> I'm not sure why its telling me wan1 isnt a device, if its added in there
[01:50] <expunge> radiogenic: download?
[01:50] <expunge> radiogenic: you apt-get virtualbox
[01:50] <daftykins> radiogenic: if your host OS is 64-bit windows 8, you'll want 64-bit virtualbox yes
[01:50] <daftykins> expunge: not an ubuntu user yet ;)
[01:50] <expunge> oh windows host =)
[01:50] <expunge> SOON muahahahhh
[01:50] <expunge> one of us, one of us
[01:50]  * daftykins licks his lips
[01:50] <radiogenic> so my x64 .iso of ubuntu will in fact work on virtualbox with win8 as host?
[01:51] <expunge> radiogenic: if it's 64bit win8, yup
[01:51] <radiogenic> yay
[01:51] <expunge> yayx0r
[01:51] <radiogenic> this is for the edx.org linux course
[01:51] <daftykins> radiogenic: yes, VMs or virtual machines are like pretend little computers that use a file on your host OS's hard disk as their virtual hard disk
[01:51] <radiogenic> i like to pretend
[01:51] <radiogenic> PRETENDING'S THE BEST
[01:52] <radiogenic> virtualbox dl complete brb
[01:52] <expunge> heh
[01:52] <JD3L> pretending rocks
[01:52] <JD3L> lel
[01:52] <daftykins> radiogenic: anywho, this is really an ubuntu support channel so be sure to keep general chat to #ubuntu-offtopic
[01:52] <TJ-> Geo: correct, 'interfaces' is part of the ifupdown system
[01:52] <Geo> then why wont it do it :P
[01:53] <radiogenic> but..but.. can't be PRETEND that general chat is allowed here?
[01:53] <radiogenic> jk
[01:53] <radiogenic> ok
[01:53] <Geo> ip link set wan1 gives the same error, btw
[01:53] <Geo> cannot find device wan1
[01:53] <daftykins> radiogenic: yeah i wouldn't recommend trying volunteers patience ;)
[01:53] <radiogenic> :3
[01:54] <Kira9204> Geo: you can map devices to aliases here: /etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-net.rules
[01:55] <Kira9204> be careful tho
[01:55] <radiogenic> i think the virtualbox install reset my network adapter
[01:55] <daftykins> yeah, it warns about that.
[01:55] <daftykins> !virtualbox
[01:55] <daftykins> hmm no mention of a channel
[01:56] <edition> !daftykins | I find virt-manager faster than virtualbox
[01:56] <expunge> top secret
[01:56] <daftykins> radiogenic: anywho, i have to go, but you can always ask in probably #virtualbox about any issues getting up and running with creating a VM etc
[01:56] <expunge> edition: not on windows you don't =)
[01:56] <expunge> it's #vbox IIRC
[01:56] <daftykins> edition: that's lovely, this is a windows user just starting out taking an edX.org course on Linux for beginners
[01:56] <expunge> or here
[01:57] <edition> im a windows user :)
[01:57] <expunge> edition: not on windows you don't =)
[01:57] <daftykins> good for you
[01:57] <Akiva-Thinkpad> how do I setup a midi controller to output on ubuntu? I just bought a midi controller, and have it hooked up via a usb chord atm :)
[01:58] <edition> !Akiva-Thinkpad You need to setup JACK
[01:58] <MonkeyDust> Akiva-Thinkpad  #ubuntu-studio is multi media dedicated
[01:58] <radiogenic> daftykins, ty for the help!  :3
[01:59] <daftykins> radiogenic: just a quick heads up, the way you setup a VM is you attach the downloaded .ISO to its' virtual CD drive, so there's no need to burn any DVDs etc. to install, anyhow enjoy and good luck :>
[01:59] <Akiva-Thinkpad> do I really need jack?
[01:59] <edition> well, thats the backend.
[02:00] <aarcane_> I accidentally deleted all of /run on a working system, and I suspect some current difficulties are a result.  What do I need to do to recreate /run ?
[02:00] <edition> but I would recommend Jack.
[02:00] <radiogenic> I AM SO EXCITED daftykins!  I'll let you know how it goes.
[02:00] <expunge> aarcane_: how'd you delete it?
[02:01] <aarcane_> expunge, rm -rf *
[02:02] <TJ-> aarcane_:  /run/ is a tmpfs so just reboot and everything will be fine
[02:02] <aarcane_> expunge, I was attempting to repair a non-booting machine, but it's since become apaprent some of the contents of /run are actually important beyond just runtime...
[02:02] <aarcane_> TJ-, so the problem is probably somewhere else then..
[02:03] <expunge> aarcane_: you were in /run/ when you ran that?
[02:03] <alfonsojon> Hi, I'm doing some theme development (porting Dust to GTK3), where can I get started?
[02:03] <TJ-> aarcane_: Some symlinks are created from other places: e.g. /var/run -> /run
[02:04] <expunge> alfonsojon: there're some gtk chans, but there might be more on irc.gnome.org
[02:04] <aarcane_> expunge, yes.  I knew what I intended to do, but it's had some unintended side-effects
[02:04] <alfonsojon> expunge: fantastic, thanks.
[02:04] <expunge> aarcane_: sure, just want to know exactly what happened
[02:07] <aarcane_> expunge, so this system boots over nfs, and after a recent power outtage, it's failed to boot.
[02:07] <aarcane_> expunge, so as a temporary solution and response to some of the on-screen text, I attempted to clear out /var/run, and because /var/run is a symlink, /run.
[02:08] <TJ-> aarcane_: what messages are being reported?
[02:08] <expunge> a recent power outage where the data actually is?
[02:09] <aarcane_> expunge, it's in the bedroom, so yeah.  power outage on both the NFS server and the network booted system.
[02:10] <aarcane_> TJ-, messages about programs not starting because of existing instances.  pid#s listed, and they corresponded to entries in /var/run when I inspected it.  then it hung.  I think it was a red herring, because those messages are all cleared up and I'm still encountering errors.
[02:11] <TJ-> aarcane_: OK... if the tmpfs failed to mount on /run/ at some point, the underlying root file-system's /run/ directory might actually contain files that are causing the hiccup
[02:11] <TJ-> aarcane_: If working on a non-live system that is easy to check, by simply mounting the root file-system someplace else and looking in its /run/ directory.
[02:11] <aarcane_> TJ-, I just solved the problem
[02:12] <TJ-> aarcane_: phew! that saved me some typing!
[02:13] <aarcane_> TJ-, expunge:  The problem was this:  A recent package install auto added network-manager.  When network-manager started, it gave no consideration to the fact that the system was an nfsroot system, and modified the network device settings.  Whenever network-manager would start, some time shortly after that, the system would freeze, sometimes printing stack traces; sometimes simply hanging indefinitely.
[02:14] <aarcane_> TJ-, expunge:  Now that I've manually disabled network-manager, and cleaned out /run in a more appropriate way and added it to fstab explicitly, the system boots stablely and reproducibly.
[02:15] <TJ-> aarcane_: Yay... we like success stories :)
[02:16] <sgtlaggy> hey guys, i've got a question. already searched google, but didn't find what I'm trying to do. how can i dd or cat to a specific partition instead of an entire device?
[02:16] <sgtlaggy> not trying to clone a drive. i want to dd/cat an iso onto sdi2
[02:17] <aarcane_> TJ-, expunge:  Thank you both for the valiant and prompt attempts to help :)
[02:17] <nahtnam> Hey!
[02:18] <TJ-> sgtlaggy: "dd if-/path/to/file.iso of=/dev/sdXY bs=1M" ... X == drive letter, Y == partition number, e.g. of=/dev/sdi2
[02:18] <nahtnam> I wanted to buy a laptop from System 76. I read about a lot of good reviews, then I found a reddit thread filled with a lot of bad ones. Do you think I should get one from System 76? If not, which laptop should I get? I am looking for i7 + 16 gb of ram + atleast Intel 4600 graphics
[02:19] <nahtnam> Must come with ubuntu
[02:19] <alfonsojon> nahtnam: With those requirements, it's System76 or bust.
[02:19] <TJ-> sgtlaggy: typo: "dd if=/path/to/file.iso ..."
[02:19] <nahtnam> alfonsojon: So do you think its worth getting?
[02:19] <wafflejock> nahtnam, I have one it does have faults but I like it all the same and overall no major issues
[02:19] <nahtnam> wafflejock: What kind of faults?
[02:19] <alfonsojon> nahtnam: I think so, personally
[02:19] <wafflejock> nahtnam, from what I understand they resell Clevo laptops so if you are on a budget perhaps check those out too
[02:20] <alfonsojon> They're not Macbook Pros, obviously
[02:20] <sgtlaggy> TJ-: all the links i found said you couldn't dd to a specific partition. maybe that's just old news or something different. and i think my problem was i didn't isohybrid it correctly the first time. thanks!
[02:20] <cynicallemon> nahtnam: theres always lenovo
[02:20] <alfonsojon> They're honestly above most Windows laptops in my opinion in terms of quality of build
[02:20] <nahtnam> alfonsojon: Which model do you have?
[02:20] <TJ-> sgtlaggy: sounds like people who don't know a thing about what they write! The whole point of 'dd' is it can write *anywhere*
[02:20] <wafflejock> nahtnam, just sensitivity problems with the touchpad doesn't deal with 3 monitor output (this isn't a huge deal but I only found Kubuntu to properly restore my desktop config on reboot with two external monitors)
[02:21] <alfonsojon> nahtnam: None, personally
[02:21] <alfonsojon> But I've used a friend's for a few days
[02:21] <alfonsojon> It was nice.
[02:21] <nahtnam> alfonsojon: Sorry, meant to ask wafflejock. What model do you have?
[02:21] <alfonsojon> They bought the Darter UltraTouch
[02:21] <wafflejock> nahtnam, I've got a Gazelle 7 gen
[02:21] <alfonsojon> I used it for a bit, the touch screen was eh
[02:21] <nahtnam> alfonsojon: Any issues with it? I dont want to waste 1k
[02:21] <alfonsojon> nahtnam: none that I knew of, it seemed fine.
[02:22] <alfonsojon> Lithium Ion battery is a bit dated (should be Lithium Polymer, but whatever)
[02:22] <wafflejock> er crap maybe it's 8 it's 1 gen old
[02:22] <nahtnam> alfonsojon: Awesome, thanks!
[02:22] <wafflejock> performance wise SSD is amazing though
[02:22] <nahtnam> wafflejock: Yeah, 8. So in your opinion do you think I should get it?
[02:22] <wafflejock> and I've installed every flavor of *buntu on it
[02:22] <wafflejock> yeah I'd rebuy from them again
[02:22] <nahtnam> What about the drivers then?
[02:23] <nahtnam> how did you get them working on all of your installs
[02:23] <wafflejock> haven't really had any problems with that the one I have just uses the Intel HD 4000 graphics though
[02:23] <wafflejock> graphics are surpringly good for Intel chipset though too
[02:23] <nahtnam> wafflejock: Kk, and finally do they have good customer support and warranty and what not?
[02:23] <wafflejock> HD video is no problem
[02:24] <wafflejock> nahtnam, regarding support I really haven't had to call them so I can't say
[02:24] <nahtnam> wafflejock: Kk. I guess ill take the risk and hopefully if something messes up, they will take returns or fix it
[02:24] <wafflejock> nahtnam, the touchpad stuff I found a workaround for on Unity and then on KDE, just installed GNOME Ubuntu, but for the most part i use an external everything anyway
[02:25] <nahtnam> wafflejock: Same, but I do ocasionally use the touchpad so if it doesnt work, ill have to get it fixed.
[02:25] <wafflejock> nahtnam, it works it just picks up palm touches
[02:25] <wafflejock> nahtnam, there are scripts to ignore those though
[02:25] <wafflejock> or settings
[02:25] <sgtlaggy> if anyone knows anything about syslinux/isohybrid: if i'm "converting" an iso to use it on the second partition, should the offset be the start of the second partition or end of the first? or something with the blocks?
[02:25] <nahtnam> oh ok, thats not a problem then
[02:25] <_Bah> im trying to set mic settings in alsamixer to minimize white noice, but every time I start recording (arecord, audacity) the settings are messed up. how to prevent that?
[02:26] <nahtnam> wafflejock: Thanks a lot for your input. I was feeling down after I read the reddit thread, but it sounds like a lot of haters got together to make that thread.
[02:27] <wafflejock> nahtnam, yeah I've looked around at lots of reviews too, some really positive some really negative... honestly I feel I lean more towards the positive but I can see it's not all perfect yet
[02:27] <wafflejock> that said super happy with it
[02:28] <expunge> sgtlaggy: pretty sure GRUB can boot from a file in an FS
[02:29] <jorge> what gnome version does ubuntu 12.04 use?
[02:32] <dodah> well if you keep changing your nick, maybe you'll confuse more folks than me..
[02:32] <expunge> jorge: 3.0
[02:35] <wafflejock> I'm digging 3.12 so far but not sure if the activities thing is working correctly with multiple monitors seems like only the primary goes across to different activities secondary monitor is "static"
[02:35] <wafflejock> maybe just some config I've yet to find though
[02:36] <stikkemz> hi dudes, i`m having quite the hustle trying to make a game work in wine/playonlinux, getting a direct3d error upon running the game
[02:37] <expunge> wafflejock: I seem to remember some of that being underdeveloped
[02:37] <expunge> stikkemz: which game?
[02:37] <stikkemz> ConquerOnline2
[02:38] <wafflejock> expunge, cool might be kinda nice actually just have to think more about what apps go where
[02:38] <expunge> mmm
[02:38] <stikkemz> expunge:  when you have a minute i`ll go into more detail
[02:39] <Tin_man> anyone order out for pizza?
[02:39] <_jack_> the pizza is aggressive
[02:39] <QuackBarCode> his flatulency must proceed him
[02:40] <expunge> stikkemz: gogo
[02:40] <QuackBarCode> so plz stand down wind and eat your pop korn pizzas
[02:40] <expunge> pizza-party
[02:40] <Tin_man> depends on the topping
[02:40] <QuackBarCode> anchovies frijolimollie
[02:40] <_jack_> one large pizza pie for the nutron household
[02:40] <Tin_man> lol
[02:40] <_jack_> **BOND WITH ME, JIMMY**
[02:40] <QuackBarCode> fuck the ducky
[02:40] <QuackBarCode> phu yak
[02:41] <QuackBarCode> fubarian warrior
[02:41] <Tin_man> anchovies is great if fresh.. left over not good
[02:41] <QuackBarCode> !fubarian function()
[02:41] <IdleOne> stop now, please.
[02:42] <Tin_man> sure glad my name isn't ducky
[02:42] <QuackBarCode> !fubarian function(){}(!kumarian)
[02:43] <stikkemz> expunge: so basically I install the damn game, wine works fine for everything up to the point I need to run the game. At that point I get a Direct3D incompatibility error. I tried emulating xp/7/8 over wine, also tried different versions of directx, followed some recommended tuts on dx packages needed to get it up and running and I feel like I`m missing something
[02:43] <stikkemz> expunge: let me know if you want the exact error msg
[02:44] <expunge> stikkemz: which game?
[02:44] <stikkemz> expunge: Conquer Online 2
[02:46] <stikkemz> expunge: according to the specs of the game I should be emulating the requirements -- http://co.91.com/guide/guides/systemrequire.shtml
[02:46] <maryjain> !find sherm stick
[02:47] <stikkemz> expunge: I`am also running nvidia geforce GT540M but i`m pretty sure wine used the intel graphics
[02:48] <expunge> stikkemz: conquer online?
[02:48] <darkelfjuggalo> Was adobe-Flashplugin removed from the repository for ubuntu 14.04 LTS? I just tried to get it from Adobe.com there is an option APT for ubuntu 10.04+ When i selected it the Software Center was opened and said no package 'adobe-flashplugin' was found
[02:48] <stikkemz> yeah, don't ask.. I`m trying to build a python bot for it
[02:48] <stikkemz> but i need it to run first
[02:48] <stikkemz> :))
[02:48] <stikkemz> expunge: yeah, don't ask.. I`m trying to build a python bot for it, but i need it to run first
[02:49] <expunge> heh
[02:49] <IdleOne> darkelfjuggalo: flashplugin-installer
[02:49] <expunge> stikkemz: did you read this? https://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=version&iId=4055
[02:49] <phunyguy> !info flashplugin-installer | darkelfjuggalo
[02:51] <darkelfjuggalo> I need this for the System Flash though[would the tarball file from adboe be better for this purpose] I have my chrome built in with the latest available flash, but my browser games crash if the Browser based plugin is enabled
[02:51] <stikkemz> expunge: took a glimpse over it, but i must have missed this bit: The game required the following winetricks:
[02:51] <stikkemz> - corefonts (fixed issue with game crashing when starting)
[02:51] <stikkemz> - flash11 (fixed issue with no menus showing up after starting game)
[02:51] <stikkemz> lemme check that out
[02:52] <expunge> mmm, winetricks is handy
[02:52] <stikkemz> expunge:  yeah i been busting my ballz with winetricks for a wile now but I mainly focused on the directx issue
[02:52] <stikkemz> expunge: testing now
[02:53] <expunge> poor balls
[02:53] <Guest81569> 为什么新安装的ubuntu14.04.1  cpu的使用率那么高  白分之50
[02:53] <stikkemz> poor indeed :(
[02:54] <Beldar> !cn | Guest81569
[02:55] <stikkemz> expunge: Q: in order to use a package i need to install it from the Package Installer first, ye?
[02:58] <stikkemz> expunge: I can't seem to find corefonts in the install list,and flash11.. I did find flash (Flash Player 12) ?
[02:58] <stikkemz> expunge: again, do I need to find them here or just set them in the WineTricks
[02:58] <edition> "apt-cache search corefonts"?
[02:59] <stikkemz> edition: tw mate
[02:59] <stikkemz> was installed tho
[03:00] <phunyguy> folks, can we try to keep the topic family friendly, please?
[03:00] <martin1989> NO
[03:00] <expunge> stikkemz: in winetricks?
[03:00] <martin1989> i'll fight with everyone!
[03:00] <phunyguy> really...
[03:00] <martin1989> come on!!
[03:00] <stikkemz> expunge: hmm?
[03:00] <martin1989> hahaha
[03:00] <phunyguy> martin1989: enough
[03:01] <martin1989> sorry..
[03:01] <martin1989> just joking
[03:01] <expunge> stikkemz: sorry what're you asking?
[03:01] <phunyguy> Well I'm not :)
[03:01] <phunyguy> !guidelines | For those that are interested,
[03:02] <Tin_man> as tin_man goes to bed, i'll leave you with a link..
[03:02] <edition> !help
[03:02] <stikkemz> well that link you told me about tells me that i need to install corefonts and flash11.. corefonts seems to be in the ttf-mscorefonts-installer package
[03:02] <Tin_man> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GpEOmZTYA4A
[03:02] <expunge> stikkemz: no no
[03:02] <stikkemz> expunge: well that link you told me about tells me that i need to install corefonts and flash11.. corefonts seems to be in the ttf-mscorefonts-installer package
[03:02] <expunge> stikkemz: winetricks is a script
[03:02] <edition> then install it
[03:02] <expunge> stikkemz: which takes arguments like 'flash11' and 'corefonts'
[03:02] <stikkemz> so i dont need to install those
[03:02] <stikkemz> i just need to add them
[03:02] <expunge> stikkemz: http://wiki.winehq.org/winetricks
[03:03] <stikkemz> ok, some reading should solve it
[03:03] <stikkemz> ty ty
[03:03] <stikkemz> <3
[03:03] <expunge> actually you can install winetricks via apt-get (in universe)
[03:03] <expunge> if you want
[03:03] <stikkemz> expunge: way ahead of that mate
[03:03] <stikkemz> ty anyway
[03:03] <expunge> k
[03:06] <Elora22>  Hi! I give you some videos. I hope you like! http://bit.ly/1lLuZsn
[03:06] <SchrodingersScat> !spam | Elora22
[03:06] <MetalGearNinja> hey guys im new to ubuntu so plz excuse this if its a dumb question but doesn anyone know if there is a way to install an apple recognized itunes?
[03:07] <MetalGearNinja> i do a lot with my 5s and am really missing my itunes
[03:07] <stikkemz> so i added those arguments to wineconfig in the libraries, also added d3d9
[03:07] <phunyguy> MetalGearNinja: VirtualBox with USB passthrough, and Windows XP or 7 inside.
[03:07] <phunyguy> it's the "only way"
[03:08] <MetalGearNinja> hmm ok thnx
[03:08] <stikkemz> and still same error "The game can not start. The problem might be related to your version of Direct3d"
[03:09] <stikkemz> expunge: so i added those arguments to wineconfig in the libraries, also added d3d9  and still same error "The game can not start. The problem might be related to your version of Direct3d"
[03:09] <expunge> MetalGearNinja: one or two versions work via Wine as well, but VirtualBox is "simpler"
[03:09] <expunge> MetalGearNinja: what do you actually use in iTunes?
[03:10] <stikkemz> expunge: also dxdiag.exe doesnt run..you want me to pastebin what it says?
[03:11] <expunge> stikkemz: nope
[03:11] <stikkemz> expunge: mmmkey
[03:11] <edition> Penguins don't eat apples
[03:11] <expunge> stikkemz: you read this 'HOWTO'?
[03:12] <thinkxl_> I'm trying to install this color pallet https://github.com/chriskempson/base16-gnome-terminal/blob/master/base16-default.dark.sh
[03:12] <stikkemz> expunge: the wiki page u gave me?
[03:12] <thinkxl_> I run it at ~ like ~/.base ... sh
[03:12] <thinkxl_> and nothing happen
[03:12] <thinkxl_> any help?
[03:13] <expunge> stikkemz: yeah, there's a big 'HOWTO' section
[03:13] <expunge> MetalGearNinja: top secret? =P
[03:13] <stikkemz> expunge: on it now
[03:18] <stikkemz> expunge: oryt.. i read it.. and installed those 2 packages - corefonts and flash11--
[03:19] <blackwings> greetings
[03:19] <stikkemz> expunge: same direct3d error upon launch
[03:19] <blackwings> anyone here that could answer a question of mine ?
[03:19] <expunge> blackwings: no, but some people are that could
[03:19] <blackwings> hmm, ok, ill just go ahead and state it
[03:20] <blackwings> im looking for something like a windows widget to display the songs i listen in my media player
[03:20] <blackwings> on the desktop
[03:20] <blackwings> with album cover and change buttons
[03:20] <phunyguy> blackwings: the indicator applet that comes with ubuntu does that already
[03:20] <phunyguy> you just have to click the volume icon.
[03:20] <blackwings> yes but its not on desktop
[03:21] <blackwings> im using dual screen, i got used to that way of using it since windows
[03:21] <blackwings> i change the songs easier that way
[03:21] <phunyguy> conky with hotkeys to control?
[03:21] <blackwings> that could work but i dont think there's gonna be a album cover
[03:21] <blackwings> also its gonna be hard to find a good script for less-known players
[03:22] <expunge> blackwings: this is ordinary Ubuntu you're using? What version?
[03:22] <blackwings> latest
[03:23] <blackwings> 14
[03:24] <expunge> blackwings: http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2012/08/coverbox-puts-music-artwork-controls-on-the-ubuntu-desktop ?
[03:24] <blackwings> tried that one aleardy
[03:24] <expunge> and?
[03:24] <blackwings> E: Unable to locate package canberra-gtk-module
[03:24] <blackwings> i get that in the terminal when trying to get the packages
[03:25] <expunge> it's called libcanberra-gtk-module
[03:25] <expunge> you have it installed? (dpkg -l | grep -i canberra)
[03:25] <blackwings> hmm
[03:25] <blackwings> not sure
[03:25] <stikkemz> expunge: any idea why i get errors when i run dxdiag.exe?
[03:25] <blackwings> its exe
[03:26] <expunge> stikkemz: run how? What errors?
[03:26] <expunge> blackwings: hrmm?
[03:26] <blackwings> im kinda new to ubuntu ,expunge, you're gonna have to tell me what i need to look for
[03:26] <stikkemz> expunge: well i asked you if I should pastebin you the damn thing and you said no :(
[03:26] <expunge> blackwings: run 'dpkg -l | grep -i canberra), see if you see libcanberra-gtk-module
[03:27] <expunge> stikkemz: so don't
[03:27] <blackwings> libcanberra-gtk-module:amd64
[03:27] <blackwings> i got that
[03:28] <OerHeks> stikkemz, direct3D is a wine issue
[03:28] <blackwings> is that good, expunge ?
[03:28] <OerHeks> !wine
[03:28] <stikkemz> ok, for anyone out there willing to help me out with why I get this error when I run 'wine dxdiag.exe' here is the output: http://pastebin.com/9w901WW6
[03:28] <expunge> blackwings: not really =)
[03:29] <blackwings> then how shall i proceed?
[03:29] <expunge> blackwings: what's the error, again?
[03:29] <stikkemz> OerHeks: ok.. so there is nothing to be done about it?
[03:29] <blackwings> E: Unable to locate package canberra-gtk-module
[03:29] <expunge> blackwings: from what command?
[03:29] <blackwings>  sudo apt-get install python-dbus python-gtk2 python-cairo python-rsvg python-xlib python-xdg canberra-gtk-module
[03:29] <expunge> blackwings: heh, okay
[03:29] <expunge> blackwings: just remove the 'canberra-gtk-module' from that, and try again
[03:29] <stikkemz> i see people who made this game run, but following their instructions didn;t cut it for me
[03:29] <blackwings> ok lemme try
[03:30] <expunge> stikkemz: the particular Wine version can be very important
[03:30] <expunge> also following steps exactly...
[03:30] <blackwings> ok it works, expunge
[03:30] <expunge> don't know how many times it took me citing the page before you claim to have read it... 3?
[03:30] <expunge> blackwings: =)
[03:30] <rasteroid> blackwings: there are no such packages, only libcanberra packages
[03:30] <theitus> ok can someone help with adobe flash player i cant run files
[03:31] <stikkemz> expunge: wine-1.6.2
[03:31] <blackwings> theitus im trying to install this http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2012/08/coverbox-puts-music-artwork-controls-on-the-ubuntu-desktop
[03:31] <expunge> stikkemz: it'll say on the page I linked which wine versions are best
[03:31] <expunge> theitus: files?
[03:32] <expunge> rasteroid: gj you just confused him
[03:32] <stikkemz> expunge: but i got the same issue with  wine 1.7
[03:32] <OerHeks> !playonlinux
[03:32] <expunge> stikkemz: that means nothing to me I'm afraid
[03:32] <rasteroid> expunge: thx k bai!
[03:32] <expunge> =P
[03:32] <rasteroid> expunge: but there *aren't*
[03:33] <stikkemz> expunge: that is the latest wine from their official repo
[03:34] <expunge> stikkemz: that means nothing to me I'm afraid
[03:34] <expunge> rasteroid: quoi?
[03:34] <chaosbringer> Hello all, I'm having issues finding a straight forward guide to set-up raid 0 before installing ubuntu
[03:34] <blackwings> ok expunge, i installed the application
[03:34] <theitus> files yes i cant find how to open abode flash
[03:34] <blackwings> how do i run it ?
[03:35] <blackwings> nvm found it, expunge, thanks for your help
[03:35] <theitus> how to run abode
[03:35] <expunge> chaosbringer: raid 0 is quite a bad idea
[03:35] <chaosbringer> I have a 250GB SSD and 2 3TB hdds.... trying to install ubuntu-gnome but set-up raid 0 on the 2 3TB HDDs before installing
[03:35] <chaosbringer> expunge, why exactly is it a bad idea?
[03:35] <expunge> theitus: what are you trying to "run"?
[03:35] <expunge> chaosbringer: raid 0
[03:35] <chaosbringer> expunge, why exactly is it a bad idea?
[03:35] <stikkemz> right... will stop wasting my time here. cheers
[03:35] <theitus> adobe flash player
[03:36] <rasteroid> expunge: je t'en prie, tu devrais pas essayer de parler en francais avec moi
[03:36] <expunge> chaosbringer: because the whole point of raid 0 is to get enterprise level access out of a patheticly small amount of consumer level hardware
[03:36] <blackwings> thanks for the help expunge
[03:36] <theitus> its kinda killing me
[03:36] <expunge> it's paradoxically bad
[03:36] <chaosbringer> pourquoi
[03:37] <jorge> why is ubuntu not letting me access facebook?
[03:37] <expunge> theitus: adobe flash player isn't something you ... "run"
[03:37] <chaosbringer> expunge
[03:37] <expunge> theitus: it's a plugin for browsers, mainly
[03:37] <chaosbringer> the point of raid 0 is to stripe the drives
[03:37] <chaosbringer> to make them seem as one
[03:37] <expunge> rasteroid: ikr
[03:37] <rasteroid> chaosbringer: it's not bad, i run lots of RAID0 SSD setups, both at home and at work
[03:37] <chaosbringer> intead of 2 3TB i'd get 1 6TB partition
[03:37] <expunge> chaosbringer: no, that is just part of raid 0
[03:37] <expunge> the point is to sacrifice reliability for access speed
[03:37] <chaosbringer> Ok, opinion to the side expunge
[03:37] <expunge> ok
[03:37] <chaosbringer> do you have a guide at how to do it?
[03:37] <expunge> raid 0?
[03:37] <theitus> i downloaded it it will not work
[03:37] <chaosbringer> any raid
[03:38] <chaosbringer> for gnome-shell prior to install guide
[03:38] <chaosbringer> will work
[03:38] <rasteroid> chaosbringer 'man mdadm'
[03:38] <chaosbringer> as long as it's straight forward
[03:38] <chaosbringer> yeah, i looked at mdadm
[03:38] <theitus> yeah a plugin to movie right
[03:38] <chaosbringer> but it looks like it's not "straight forward": example, i saw issues with grub in the forums, etc
[03:38] <chaosbringer> and the need to boot into another live CD after
[03:38] <chaosbringer> to fix it
[03:38] <expunge> chaosbringer: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/SoftwareRAID
[03:38] <theitus> play
[03:39] <chaosbringer> expunge, Note: This page is about Ubuntu 9.10. It may not apply to newer versions anymore.
[03:39] <rasteroid> chaosbringer: sudo mdadm -C /dev/md0 --raid-devices=4 /dev/sdb /dev/sdc /dev/sdd /dev/sde --level=raid0
[03:39] <chaosbringer> Looked at that as well
[03:39] <chaosbringer> rasteroid, is that all?
[03:39] <chaosbringer> so for me wanting two:
[03:39] <rasteroid> chaosbringer: all of those devices are plextor SSDs on an LSI HBA
[03:39] <rasteroid> yes
[03:40] <expunge> chaosbringer: you should look into JBOD
[03:40] <chaosbringer> And ubuntu picks it up right away? (I already partitioned them to be the same size unformatted
[03:40] <rasteroid> expunge: i run mongo on top of that
[03:40] <expunge> or just LVM
[03:40] <expunge> rasteroid: heh, I bet you do
[03:40] <expunge> I bet it's web scale
[03:40] <rasteroid> chaosbringer: well, you need to mount it
[03:41] <rasteroid> expunge: not to say i don't have lots of magnetic RAID6 on real controllers as well...
[03:43] <chaosbringer> You can mount and format the md0 device with gparted prior to installing with a livecd yeah?
[03:43] <nico_> chaosbringer: hi ( sorry for my bad english ) . i like too to build ubuntu in rai partition , and i know how to do this only with the .iso  of ubuntu 12.04 alternate ....now i discover is possible to do ( for 14.04 trusty tahr ) whit the .iso of the server edition , durin the install is possible to add " ubuntu desktop " , gnome desktop, lubuntu , xubuntu ..... ( sorry new time is the first time i enter in irc )
[03:44] <rasteroid> chaosbringer: yes, and you should 'mklabel gpt'
[03:44] <chaosbringer> K, yeah i'll need gpt anyways because msdos only sees 2TB
[03:44] <chaosbringer> and both my drives are 3TB
[03:44] <chaosbringer> I only use nix OS's anyways
[03:44] <rasteroid> chaosbringer: why do you want RAID0? why not RAID1?
[03:44] <chaosbringer> Because I want all 6TB
[03:44] <chaosbringer> raid 1 mirrors
[03:45] <chaosbringer> I am a software architect
[03:45] <rasteroid> chaosbringer: i'm well aware
[03:45] <chaosbringer> so
[03:45] <chaosbringer> I need tons of space
[03:45] <chaosbringer> for different virtual boxes, etc
[03:45] <chaosbringer> I've turned my PC into a workstation essentially with 32TB of ram and all the latest hardware
[03:45] <chaosbringer> i'll add more HDDs eventually
[03:46] <chaosbringer> You'd recommend both 10?
[03:46] <expunge> you want JBOD, not RAID
[03:47] <chaosbringer> expunge
[03:47] <expunge> RAID is not for getting more space, that is just an occasional side effect
[03:47] <chaosbringer> i've partitioned multiple drives
[03:47] <chaosbringer> to boot into the same OS before
[03:47] <rasteroid> chaosbringer: i think expunge is right :-)
[03:47] <chaosbringer> in fact, i will also have an SSD boot my os
[03:47] <chaosbringer> but I don't want 2 x 3TB i wanted 1 6TB
[03:47] <chaosbringer> isn't the only way of doing that with raid?
[03:47] <expunge> you can tell your system you have 1 6TB without using raid
[03:48] <expunge> no, it isn't
[03:48] <user7654> tar seems to be having issues with capturing *EVERYTHING* into an archive when I run '(tar cvfW > log.out) >& err.out I logg the following errors: http://paste.ubuntu.com/8004304/
[03:48] <chaosbringer> I do have an extra 2TB drive, maybe I could do 4TB in stripped and 4 TB in mirror
[03:49] <user7654> (I'm trying to backup what's left of a dead laptop)
[03:49] <rasteroid> chaosbringer: i think this is what you want: 'mdadm --create /dev/md2 --level=linear --raid-devices=2 /dev/sda3 /dev/sdc3 '
[03:49] <chaosbringer> how complex would be to set that up with 3 Drives? (2 x 3TB + 1 2TB)
[03:50] <GandalfGreyHat> I made a huge mistake.
[03:50] <expunge> look into LVM spanning
[03:50] <ahsm> good evening guys
[03:50] <rasteroid> expunge: my vaio laptop pulls ~900Mb/sec, in RAID0
[03:50] <lotuspsychje> !ssd | chaosbringer
[03:50] <user7654> how can I get a clean run of tar without errors and have it capture everything?
[03:50] <allenrm> hey all, can anyone tell me if its safe to install cinnamon on Ubuntu 14
[03:50] <chaosbringer> lotuspsychje, what does that have to do with me setting up raid with the non-ssd drives? :)
[03:50] <chaosbringer> That's cool though
[03:50] <expunge> rasteroid: neat
[03:51] <lotuspsychje> chaosbringer: just for ssd info, i also have an ssd tweak url if you want
[03:51] <GandalfGreyHat> I have a Lenovo Windows 8 computer. I had Ubuntu installed in a dual-boot setup for a long time, now the Windows 8 loader thing is giving me an error code of 0xc000000f and I'm about to just rage so hard.
[03:51] <expunge> allenrm: safe?
[03:51] <ahsm> I downloaded ubuntu a while ago installed it and everything was good, then i updated it and my super key (windows key) + W and other commands crash unity... what could it be?
[03:51] <allenrm> expunge, yeah is it going to crash my unity desktop, is it going to cause issues, you know?
[03:52] <thecodethinker> How do I get my trackpad on my lenovo e531 to right click?
[03:52] <chaosbringer> lotuspsychje, sure!
[03:52] <lotuspsychje> GandalfGreyHat: did you try single ubuntu on your machine?
[03:52] <thecodethinker> I think there's a config file that lets me define the right click area
[03:53] <thecodethinker> but I can't seem to find it
[03:53] <GandalfGreyHat> When I try booting with just a single Ubuntu drive, I get an error message of 1962: No operating system found
[03:53] <thecodethinker> erm
[03:53] <expunge> allenrm: it's an alternative to Unity
[03:53] <GandalfGreyHat> Fresh Ubuntu 12.04 install
[03:53] <expunge> allenrm: if you don't like it you can switch back
[03:53] <rasteroid> chaosbringer: the difference between RAID0 and linear is; the first one makes things faster, but if you lose one you lose them all, the second one just makes all the space on all the drives available.
[03:53] <lotuspsychje> chaosbringer: https://sites.google.com/site/easylinuxtipsproject/ssd
[03:53] <advx_> Hi all Good Morning, Have a great SUNDAY...
[03:53] <GandalfGreyHat> I think it's loading into some kind of Windows 8 Bootloader thing or something first
[03:53] <allenrm> thanks
[03:53] <GandalfGreyHat> I have no idea how this windows 8 crap works and it's more than pissing me off
[03:53] <expunge> advx_: and you
[03:54] <chaosbringer> rasteroid, i'm writing up the config I want with all the drives I have available (taking me a bit to type it! :) )
[03:54] <chaosbringer> lotuspsychje, thanks!
[03:54] <expunge> GandalfGreyHat: but you do have an idea of how it works: poorly =)
[03:54] <allenrm> i have had this build running for a few months now, and don't want to muck it up, BUT i used to run Mint and really liked the cinnamon DE
[03:54] <advx_> expunge, thanks
[03:55] <expunge> allenrm: back it up first?
[03:55] <lotuspsychje> GandalfGreyHat: try disable secureboot and install ubuntu clean
[03:55] <GandalfGreyHat> So from the top down here's what I had. I tried to install Ubuntu 12.04 alongside Windows 8. It worked, but very poorly. I wanted to use GRUB exclusively, but the Windows Bootloader takes priority over GRUB somehow, I could never get around that. I tried to install Ubuntu on an SSD and use it in the machine earlier today, and now I have this error and I can't get around it, and I want to just throw this entire system in the gar
[03:56] <chaosbringer> rasteroid, if i want something like this:
[03:56] <chaosbringer> 1x250SSD (For main os)
[03:56] <chaosbringer> 2x3TBHDD + 1x2TBHDD partitioned like this = 1 4TB Raid 10
[03:56] <chaosbringer> How would that look?
[03:56] <allenrm> expunge, i have everything backed up
[03:56] <chaosbringer> I'd mount /home /var /opt and a few others to the 4TB partition from the HDDs
[03:56] <GandalfGreyHat> If I installed Ubuntu flat out, and somehow miraculously get it to work, can I ever go back to wIndows 8 if I want to?
[03:56] <chaosbringer> that would give me back the fault tolerance while gaining the performance of raid 0
[03:57] <GandalfGreyHat> I want the option, not that I'd actually do it
[03:57] <chriys> hey guys
[03:57] <chriys> this the command I used: sudo iptables -A INPUT -p tcp --dport 1936 -j ACCEPT
[03:57] <chriys> I'm trying to open some port on my iptables but for some reasons it does really work
[03:57] <chriys> this the command I used: sudo iptables -A INPUT -p tcp --dport 1936 -j ACCEPT
[03:57] <tekkitindisguise> Hi
[03:57] <expunge> hi tekk
[03:58] <lotuspsychje> !iptables | chriys
[03:58] <expunge> GandalfGreyHat: if you do it right
[03:58] <rasteroid> chaosbringer: RAID10 requires 4 drives. you should check wikipedia for RAID. what you might want is the 3TB drives in RAID1 for backup, and the 1TBs in RAID0 for speed, using rsync to keep the current working data backed up to the redundant volume
[03:58] <ahsm_> hello
[03:58] <expunge> ahsm_: heya
[03:58] <GandalfGreyHat> I mean, is the EFI literally on the system board or something?
[03:58] <ahsm> hey expunge
[03:58] <tekkitindisguise> Anyone tried zorin?
[03:58] <GandalfGreyHat> I need to understand why this Windows 8 Bootloader keeps kicking me in the dick
[03:58] <chaosbringer> rsync? that seems hackish
[03:58] <chaosbringer> Also, I don't have a 1TB i think you mean 2TB
[03:58] <expunge> GandalfGreyHat: question for #windows, I fear
[03:59] <rasteroid> GandalfGeyHat: it's because different BIOSes only look in different directories for 8.efi files
[03:59] <expunge> GandalfGreyHat: efi is partly firmware, yes
[03:59] <rasteroid> *.efi files
[03:59] <chriys> lotuspsychje: I did those steps
[03:59] <GandalfGreyHat> .#windows is about as useless as a holy condom
[03:59] <lotuspsychje> lol
[03:59] <tekkitindisguise> turn of secure boot
[03:59] <tekkitindisguise> turn off secure boot
[03:59] <nicolinus> hi :) chaosbringer ( sorry for my bad english ) i like to run ubuntu in raid , before i know to do this only whit the .iso of ubuntu 12.04 alternate.... the versions after not create raid array...but i discover is possible to do whit the . iso ( for trusty tahr ) of the server edition , durin the installation is possible to create raid array , ald vlm to have the possibility to add new volume group after iunstallation....durin the install is possible to add
[03:59] <nicolinus>  ubuntu desktop , gnome desktop , xubuntu , lubuntu , ubuntu studio ......
[03:59] <chriys> lotuspsychje: I'm still getting the same issue my iptables shows that the rules are added. But When I test the ports it doesn't work.
[04:00] <chaosbringer> kk
[04:00] <rasteroid> GandalfGreyHat: have you tried using BootRepair?
[04:00] <GandalfGreyHat> the windows automatic boot repair is bollocks
[04:00] <expunge> mmhmm
[04:00] <GandalfGreyHat> if there's an ubuntu boot repair, I'd use it, if I could get ubuntu to boot
[04:00] <rasteroid> GandalfGreyHat: no, the Ubuntu one
[04:00] <tekkitindisguise> GET RID OF SECURE BOOT
[04:00] <expunge> GandalfGreyHat: well you aren't going to get much win32 bsod help in #ubuntu
[04:00] <rasteroid> GandalfGreyHat: look for a liveCD that includes it, and turn off secure boot in the BIOS
[04:01] <lotuspsychje> i never understand why users wanna mess with dualboots
[04:01] <GandalfGreyHat> How do I get into my BIOS?
[04:01] <tekkitindisguise> Just get rid of windows
[04:01] <GandalfGreyHat> I'm clueless man, all the typical bios buttons aren't working
[04:01] <chaosbringer> so rasteroid linear it is
[04:01] <TaZeR> restore windows with cmd line repair tool bootrec /fixmbr and bootrec /fixboot
[04:01] <rasteroid> GandalfGreyHat: usually you hold down the 'delete' key when it start
[04:01] <GandalfGreyHat> I want to just take a hammer to it
[04:01] <GandalfGreyHat> lotus, I don't want to dual boot anymore
[04:01] <TaZeR> the autmaotic one sucks
[04:01] <GandalfGreyHat> I jsut want Ubuntu
[04:02] <lotuspsychje> GandalfGreyHat: did you try single install ubuntu?
[04:02] <GandalfGreyHat> what's single install?
[04:02] <expunge> that's academic if you can't boot any OS
[04:02] <lotuspsychje> ive been able to install 14.04 on many machines with uefi, working out of the box
[04:02] <tekkitindisguise> Overwrite windows with ubuntu
[04:02] <GandalfGreyHat> I have an SSD in the unit with nothing but a fresh Ubuntu 12.04 LTS on it
[04:03] <GandalfGreyHat> The machine will not boot it
[04:03] <allenrm> expunge, thanks man, install went smooth, all "seems" to be normal
[04:03] <expunge> allenrm: =)
[04:03] <TJ-> GandalfGreyHat: On an UEFI system the boot menu is stored in the non-volatile RAM of the motherboard's firmware. When you installed 12.04 alongside Windows 8 my guess would be it was installed in legacy mode. In UEFI mode the firmware presents the list of boot options, and OSes can add themselves to that list if they boot in EFI mode. That is what Windows will have done so it takes precedence. Ubuntu would likely require you to use CSM mode to boot the HDD with GR
[04:03] <TJ-> UB installed in its MBR.
[04:03] <nicolinus> hi :) sorry for my bad english ( is the first time i entry in xchat :) )
[04:03] <tekkitindisguise> Why not trusty?
[04:03] <lotuspsychje> GandalfGreyHat: start over again, install 14.04 as only Os on your lenovo
[04:03] <tekkitindisguise> Yes
[04:03] <GandalfGreyHat> TJ-: thank you very much for that
[04:04] <GandalfGreyHat> That's the type of information I was looking for
[04:04] <GandalfGreyHat> So I just need to rip off my NVRAM
[04:04] <TJ-> GandalfGreyHat: No
[04:04] <GandalfGreyHat> and smash it with a hammer
[04:04] <GandalfGreyHat> hahahahaha
[04:04] <expunge> heh
[04:04] <GandalfGreyHat> I was joking
[04:04] <allenrm> expunge, i'm still learning the ropes, i keep trying new things as i feel thats the only way i will learn.
[04:04] <GandalfGreyHat> But yes, I understand now
[04:05] <GandalfGreyHat> I'll go back over and attempt to fix it in a minute
[04:05] <GandalfGreyHat> I have no idea how to access or manipulate my EFI though
[04:05] <expunge> allenrm: well there's nothing wrong with using backups to make you feel safe =)
[04:05] <GandalfGreyHat> so if something's broken in that, not sure what to do
[04:05] <rasteroid> GandalfGreyHat: in the BIOS menu, you can determine what you startup volumes are. if you set UEFI the system can only boot UEFI, if you set legacy it can boot older volumes
[04:06] <rasteroid> GandalfGreyHat: if you want to use UEFI you must start the installer as a UEFI volume
[04:06] <GandalfGreyHat> So here's what I'm going to try to do
[04:06] <TJ-> GandalfGreyHat: You need to boot the Ubuntu ISO installer in UEFI mode rather than CSM mode, then Ubuntu will install in the same way as Windows did, and all OSes you may choose to install later will be chosen via UEFO boot menu, with no interference between the OS boot-loaders, as used to be the case with BIOS legacy (UEFI CSM - Compatibility Support Module) and GRUB vs Windows in MBR
[04:06] <GandalfGreyHat> Get into BIOS, turn on Legacy, turn off Secure Boot, and attempt to boot from my Ubuntu 12.04 SSD
[04:06] <allenrm> the only backup i'm really worried about is my photo's and those are on a couple external drives hehe
[04:06] <dopie> hey im currently using ssh and im inside my site , how do i download a file to a specific location on my hard drive?
[04:06] <rasteroid> GandalfGreyHat: when you change these options and restart and re-enter BIOS setup you will see that the boot options change
[04:06] <lotuspsychje> it depends on the machine really, some machines can install ubuntu without changing uefi settings
[04:06] <rasteroid> GandalfGreyHat: that sounds good
[04:06] <expunge> dopie: from your local machine: scp user@localsite:path/to/file .
[04:07] <dopie> scp?
[04:07] <GandalfGreyHat> TJ- I've given up on Windows 8 dual boot, I just want Ubuntu only on this system now.
[04:07] <expunge> dopie: or, the less awful way: mkdir whatever; sshfs user@localsite whatever; cp whatever/path/to/file .
[04:07] <expunge> dopie: yup
[04:07] <rasteroid> dopie: secure copy
[04:07] <GandalfGreyHat> I have plenty of other Windows computers, but having Ubuntu on this one is important. We use it as a fancy shmancy ubuntu server
[04:07] <expunge> it's just 'cp' over ssh
[04:07] <GandalfGreyHat> rsync?
[04:08] <expunge> rsync?
[04:08] <TJ-> GandalfGreyHat: I'd recommend installing 14.04 LTS then; the ISO will boot in UEFI mode natively too (as long as you choose that from the offers in the mobo's boot-menu) :)
[04:08] <rasteroid> GandalfGreyHat: remote sync
[04:08] <GandalfGreyHat> alright
[04:08] <GandalfGreyHat> going to try 14.04
[04:08] <rasteroid> GandalfGreyHat: usually invoked by a CRON job
[04:09] <rasteroid> expunge: rsync?
[04:09] <TJ-> GandalfGreyHat: Ubuntu will work with UEFI Secure Boot too, although it doesn't hurt to turn that darned thing off if you don't need it
[04:09] <expunge> rasteroid: rsync?
[04:09] <lotuspsychje> TJ-: lol
[04:09] <lotuspsychje> uefi is a bad nightmare invention indeed
[04:10] <rasteroid> can someone please tell me how to get my *upgraded* precise->trusty box to use nvidia drivers without freaking out?
[04:10] <OerHeks> !uefi
[04:10] <rasteroid> lotuspsychje: t'is not
[04:10] <TJ-> lotuspsychje: I love it compared to the multiboot nightmares of BIOS legacy, but Secure Boot can cause problems if you need Nvidia or AMD proprietary GPU drivers
[04:10] <rasteroid> TJ: +1
[04:10] <expunge> it's exactly the same as BIOS, except that more learning is required
[04:11] <expunge> same problems
[04:11] <GandalfGreyHat> multiboot was easier on legacy bios
[04:11] <GandalfGreyHat> I understand writing and configuring a GRUB bootloader
[04:11] <rasteroid> and the manufacturers don't always follow the rules, Sony being particularly bad
[04:11] <GandalfGreyHat> but this newfangled shit is garbage
[04:11] <TJ-> It's better than BIOS in my opinion... being able to have a really powerful shell from firmware makes things so much easier to fix when things get really bad
[04:11] <rasteroid> TJ: +2
[04:11] <IdleOne> GandalfGreyHat: Please keep the language clean
[04:11] <expunge> well it makes moving the mouse around easier
[04:12] <TJ-> And UEFI provides for dynamical loading of device driver modules
[04:12] <expunge> how that is important to booting is beyond me
[04:12] <GandalfGreyHat> My apologies
[04:12] <GandalfGreyHat> I forgot that Ubuntu is family friendly
[04:12] <rasteroid> expunge: i think it means that you can net boot from a command prompt if you know the language
[04:13] <TJ-> UEFI is not the same as a GUI firmware... the GUI is something manufacturers add to BIOS *or* UEFI to make it easier for novice users to work with
[04:13] <expunge> rasteroid: you can do that without u/efi, too, though
[04:13] <expunge> TJ-: mmm, but that's the only plus =P
[04:13] <TJ-> UEFI Shell provides many powerful tools, like a GRUB or Linux rescue disk, built-in
[04:14] <expunge> grub does that on its own, though
[04:14] <expunge> pretty crufty if you ask me
[04:14] <rasteroid> expunge: without loading anything that isn't on the board?
[04:14] <TJ-> export: GRUB is *not* needed when we have UEFI ... Linux can be booted directly from UEFI
[04:14] <expunge> rasteroid: it's all on the board, somewhere
[04:14] <tekkitindisguise> Change the boot device
[04:14] <expunge> TJ-: yeah, but uefi isn't needed if grub can do it, either
[04:14] <lotuspsychje> well i dont like uefi, im almost sure there's an evil pact behind with w8 and manufacturs
[04:15] <expunge> lotuspsychje: oh there is =)
[04:15] <rasteroid> expunge: i'm going to quote you, "it's all on the board, expunge said".
[04:15] <TJ-> expunge: UEFI is needed, it configures the hardware. Without it, you've got an expensive pile of sandy components
[04:15] <expunge> rasteroid: be my guest
[04:15] <expunge> TJ-: or BIOS
[04:15] <expunge> or coreboot =)
[04:16] <TJ-> expunge: BIOS cannot do what UEFI can do, the reason we moved away from it was it had to contain amazing amounts of 16-bit compatible code
[04:16] <expunge> sure it can
[04:16] <expunge> I don't think that is the reason =)
[04:16] <lotuspsychje> my old amd 3200+ 64bit trusty desktop with bios, running rocketfast nothing like those slow w8 boxes
[04:16] <lotuspsychje> years old hardware...
[04:16] <rasteroid> lotuspsychje: certain manus, like sony, do all sorts of things to make it difficult to override their efi modules
[04:16] <expunge> lotuspsychje: yes, it's not rocket science
[04:17] <as73790> zz
[04:17] <as73790> :q
[04:17] <TJ-> The nice thing with UEFI too is you can install your own shell; I install the Tianocore V2 shell on everything... think of it like BASH; with scripts and so on in files on a proper file-system, before the OS
[04:18] <lotuspsychje> TJ-: with what purpose exactly?
[04:18] <expunge> yes, finally a shell you can use instead of just booting your OS...
[04:18] <expunge> amazing
[04:18] <expunge> and not at all crufty
[04:19] <chriys> does anyone knows Red5 here
[04:20] <lotuspsychje> chriys: whats that
[04:20] <TJ-> lotuspsychje: The 'E' stands for extensible. I can plug in some adapter, add its UEFI device-driver into the ESP, load it from shell (shell boot script) and have that device available for use before any boot loader or OS starts. In the BIOS days, that kind of device often meant it couldn't be a boot device, as was the case with e.g. many fakeRAID controllers
[04:21] <chriys> lotuspsychje: it's a media server
[04:21] <lotuspsychje> TJ-: ah i see tnx
[04:21] <chriys> check red5.org
[04:24] <expunge> chriys: try #polls
[04:24] <TJ-> One part of UEFI users's don't see though, is the properly designed API for the OS to talk even in 64-bit protected mode. With legacy BIOS the CPU would have to switch back to x86 Real mode with some expensive context switching. Now it is just like another syscall.
[04:24] <expunge> that's true, users do not see a properly designed UEFI
[04:25] <wookienz> hi guys, my NFS shares are trying to mount before the network is ready, which causes the machine to hang on boot. How do i delay the mounting?
[04:25] <expunge> wookienz: you call from fstab?
[04:26] <sacrelicious> hey guys i need help, how can i get a copy of gparted that will work on 13.04?
[04:26] <TJ-> It's nice you can see the contents of the UEFI's NVRAM via /sys/firmware/efi/efivars, for example. You can't do that with BIOS, even BIOS minor revisions can store their settings in different binary bits, and no-one except the manufacturers know what is there, and can't get at it to change if the BIOS is buggy
[04:26] <expunge> sacrelicious: sudo apt-get install gparted
[04:27] <expunge> TJ-: that does sound nice
[04:27] <TJ-> wookienz: Add the "_netdev option in fstab, for those NFS devices. See "man mount" and then do "/   _netdev"
[04:27] <sacrelicious> expunge: E: Unable to locate package gparte
[04:27] <expunge> finally a way to look at stuff I don't give two craps about
[04:27] <expunge> sacrelicious: gparted
[04:27] <jenenliu> hi guys
[04:27] <expunge> jenenliu: hi
[04:27] <sacrelicious> expunge: E: Unable to locate package gparted
[04:27] <lotuspsychje> !13.04 | sacrelicious
[04:27] <sacrelicious> sorry, forgot to copy the d from the text.
[04:27] <jenenliu> expunge: ;)
[04:28] <TJ-> expunge: And, as one who had to reverse engineer a Sony Vaio BIOS to figure out which bit to flip to enable hardware virtualisation support in Intel CPUs - which took me 3 weeks - I appreciate UEFI even more :)
[04:28] <sacrelicious> yeah I know, I'm trying to upgrade, but I can't wipe a usb stick and install a new upgrade.
[04:28] <sacrelicious> for some reason its not working, I need to fgure out how to get gparted on 13.04
[04:28] <rasteroid> YJ - are you thr guy who sussed the santa rosa?
[04:28] <expunge> eh, you're comparing a badly made BIOS with an idealized UEFI
[04:28] <ivan__> !queue http://www.speedtest.net/my-result/3679657630
[04:28] <lotuspsychje> sacrelicious: did you try the usbcreator app?
[04:28] <rasteroid> TJ-
[04:29] <sacrelicious> lotuspsychje: startup disk creator? yup. It can't format any of my usb keys for some reason.
[04:29] <TJ-> expunge: No, a locked down BIOS. The point is with efivars I have access to the system's configuration and can change it
[04:29] <lotuspsychje> sacrelicious: what error you getting?
[04:29] <ivan__> !queue http://www.speedtest.net/result/3679657630.png
[04:29] <rww> ivan__: what are you trying to do
[04:29] <rasteroid> TJ - IIRC it was byte 1512
[04:30] <ivan__> i am trying to get an invite
[04:30] <ivan__> by passing the interview
[04:30] <rww> ivan__: an invite to what?
[04:30] <expunge> TJ-: no, the point is you can be locked out of either
[04:30] <ivan__> hmmm
[04:30] <expunge> they're the same
[04:30] <ivan__>  wrong channel
[04:30] <rww> ivan__: because this is the Ubuntu support channel, not wherever you think you are
[04:30] <rww> indeed
[04:30] <ivan__> sorry
[04:30] <rww> no problem
[04:31] <sacrelicious> lotuspsychje: Error synchronizing after initial wipe: Timed out waiting for objects (udisks-error-quark, 0)
[04:31] <TJ-> rasteroid: 7 years ago; can't remember now... my article is at http://tjworld.net/wiki/Sony/Vaio/FE41Z/HackingBiosNvram
[04:32] <expunge> wow that looks boring =)
[04:32] <chubboes> after bacula-console-qt installed command "bat" gives permission denied msg?
[04:32] <rasteroid> TJ: they locked virtualization and hyperthreading
[04:32] <lotuspsychje> sacrelicious: and you cant inctall gparted?
[04:32] <TJ-> rasteroid: I never had problems with HT
[04:32] <sacrelicious> correct, i got the error message when trying to install it from the terminal, i suspect it might be because my repos are out of date
[04:33] <chubboes> >( expunge?
[04:33] <chubboes> after bacula-console-qt installed command "bat" gives permission denied msg?
[04:33] <expunge> no idea
[04:33]  * expunge splits
[04:33] <lotuspsychje> sacrelicious: maybe try unetbootin ?
[04:34] <rasteroid> TJ-i don't remember the name, i think an sz761 something. my current vaio doesn't have this problem
[04:34] <lotuspsychje> or loading the .iso from grub
[04:34] <sacrelicious> E: Unable to locate package unetbootin
[04:34] <lotuspsychje> !info unetbootin | sacrelicious
[04:35] <sacrelicious> lotuspsychje: E: Unable to locate package unetbootin
[04:35] <chubboes> unopaste: why?
[04:35] <chubboes> after bacula-console-qt installed command "bat" gives permission denied msg?
[04:35] <TJ-> rasteroid: I dumped Sony after that; that machine has been unbooted in my lab for several years. I use Dell's now since they have so much expansion potential and are easy to strip-down for servicing
[04:36] <rasteroid> TJ - they don't make them anymore
[04:36] <redeleven> What is the min amount of ram I should have on an old computer so it could run Ubuntu?
[04:36] <lotuspsychje> sacrelicious: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2/ISOBoot
[04:36] <rasteroid> TJ - but they are my preferred laptop. desktops are zotac/xeon and servers are supermicro/amd
[04:37] <TJ-> sacrelicious: If you're using 13.04 you'll need to switch the "/etc/apt/sources.list" to use the archives at "http://old-releases.ubuntu/com" instead of the usual archives, since 13.04 is EOL
[04:37] <lotuspsychje> redeleven: goto lubuntu or xubuntu
[04:37] <sacrelicious> TJ-: how do i do that?
[04:37] <blackwings> eyo,. im back
[04:37] <TJ-> redeleven: I've got machines with 384MB that do OK
[04:37] <redeleven> Okay, trying to bring life back to this ancient Vaio
[04:38] <blackwings> redeleven do you use gnome 3.10 ?
[04:38] <lotuspsychje> redeleven: lubuntu will revive your machine for sure :p
[04:38] <blackwings> do you have any idea how i can put the terminal transparency back on ?
[04:38] <advx_> Bye...Have a great day...
[04:39] <TJ-> sacrelicious: "sudo sed -i 's,http://.*archive\.,http://old-releases.,' /etc/apt/sources.list" then "sudo apt-get update"
[04:39] <sacrelicious> i'm so confused right now... i just want to figure out a way to upgrade to the current version to my computer actually functions again
[04:40] <TJ-> redeleven: I've got a couple of SRX51P that still do OK; you may need to use a Debian kernel though, because some of the older models don't support PAE (which is required with Ubuntu 32-bit kernels)
[04:40] <chubboes> sacrelicious: goto www.ubuntu.com get ISO disk image of new ubuntu
[04:40] <chubboes> burn it to disk
[04:41] <sacrelicious> chubboes: i did. I can not burn it for some reason
[04:41] <chubboes> hehehehehehe
[04:41] <redeleven> Sounds good, I will check it all out. Appreciate the help
[04:41] <chubboes> are you for real
[04:41] <rasteroid> sacrelicious: install unetbootin and use it to create a USB bootable drive
[04:42] <jenenliu> ;)
[04:42] <chubboes> sacrelicious: run it!
[04:43] <chubboes> sacrelicious: You have local computer repair shops?
[04:45] <chubboes> sacrelicious: cd-rom player only right
[04:56] <chubboes> OP chubboes
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[05:09] <roninms> como elimino todas las barras de tarea del escritorio de linux mint 17
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[05:32] <absk007> which FS partition should be on a fast drive other than /home? i keep some heavy apps in /opt so that will be on a fast drive too. What else should be on a fast drive for good perf.?
[05:34] <Beldar> absk007, The configs for some are in home I would just have the whole OS there myself, keep it simple the differentials are so small anyway if spinning HD's.
[05:34] <absk007> Beldar, i'm low on space. I've a fast 7.42 GB thumb drv. and a Class 4 16 GB microSD Card. Where to put what?
[05:35] <Beldar> absk007, Why no internal?
[05:36] <chriys> Everytime I try to install a package I get this error: E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
[05:36] <absk007> Beldar, 320GB HDD burnt it running Win 7 Ult.
[05:37] <absk007> chriys, try dpkg --configure -C
[05:37] <nicolinus> :) absk007 can be cool to create logical volume manager so is possible to resize the partitions when they are full ?....i use to create usr partition for the apps...but maybe i am wrong...
[05:37] <Beldar> absk007, You can only take that speed race so far with that hardware any hardware really, just use it.
[05:38] <chriys> absk007: I got this: dpkg: error: conflicting actions -C (--audit) and  (--configure)
[05:38] <bekks> absk007: Both USB thumb drives and SD cards arent "fast drives", both are awfully slow actually.
[05:38] <absk007> chriys, do either one
[05:38] <absk007> bekks, no options
[05:38] <bekks> absk007: In that case it doesnt matter where you put what.
[05:39] <chriys> absk007: same issue
[05:39] <absk007> the thumb drv. is a 2.0 one attached to 3.0 port
[05:40] <absk007> chriys, did you try "dpkg --configure" OR "dpkg -C" ?
[05:41] <Beldar> chriys, try sudo dpkg --configure -a  than  sudo apt-get install -f  post your sources in a pastebin if you still have problems after.
[05:41] <chriys> ok Beldar
[05:41] <absk007> the apt-get fixes many things.
[05:41] <Beldar> chriys, And a sudo apt-get update with the sources.
[05:41] <chriys> absk007: it ask me to do dpkg --configure package-name
[05:42] <chriys> Beldar: what do you mean with the sources
[05:42] <absk007> chriys, just do what Beldar says
[05:42] <Beldar> chriys, I said if the two commands do not work post your sources just add a update with it.
[05:43] <royalaxe> heyo guys
[05:43] <absk007> chriys, check this http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-general-1/dpkg-returning-an-error-code-1-a-896225/
[05:44] <chriys> ok
[05:44] <bekks> chriys: Whats the exact error you get?
[05:44] <Beldar> chriys, you can pull up all your sources with this command. grep -vr "^#" /etc/apt/sources.list{,.d/}
[05:44] <royalaxe> i should goto bash chan but perhaps the answer is here, has anyone ever run vlc from the terminal to play an avi file?
[05:44] <chriys> bekks: E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
[05:45] <Beldar> chriys, Follow beck's though I have to take off shortly.
[05:45] <bekks> chriys: Thats one line, and not a full error message. :)
[05:45] <bekks> chriys: Pastebin the entire output please and provide the URL.
[05:45] <chriys> here are my sources http://pastebin.com/iZY0fm2A
[05:46] <bekks> chriys: Thats only one part of your sources, you still may have content in /etc/apt/sources.list.d/
[05:47] <chriys> and this is the error after I did apt-get install -f  http://pastebin.com/YEd0T1vQ
[05:47] <chriys> ok let me check them.
[05:48] <bekks> chriys: Whats this "red5-server" all about?
[05:48] <chriys> it's a media server.
[05:49] <bekks> chriys: So check why it couldnt be started then.
[05:49] <chriys> the thing is this error appears whatever package I try to install
[05:49] <chriys> even if I purge that package
[05:49] <bekks> The thing is, that whatever package is going to be installed, dpkg assumes that the red-5server issue has to be foxed before.
[05:49] <bekks> *fixed
[05:51] <chriys> oh ok I see.
[05:51] <chriys> I just purged the red5-server and installed iptables-persistent
[05:52] <chriys> bekks: how can I verify what avoid red5-server to start
[05:53] <bekks> chriys: By installing it, waiting for the installation to fail, and checking the postinstall script which is mentioned, and investigating what causes that script to fail.
[05:54] <chubboes> How do I become the OWNER and Administrator?
[05:54] <chriys> this is the message when I try to install http://pastebin.com/PWGcWVHj
[05:55] <bekks> chubboes: Of what?
[05:55] <chubboes> Ubuntu 14
[05:55] <bekks> chubboes: 14.04 or 14.10?
[05:55] <chubboes> .04
[05:56] <theitus> help with getting and useing adobe flash
[05:56] <bekks> chriys: Now you have to investigate /var/lib/dpkg/info/red5-server.postinst and check why it fails.
[05:56] <absk007> theitus, no issue. Just install the "adobe-flashplugin-installer"
[05:56] <chubboes> because if I am not the OWNER then I get no access
[05:57] <bekks> chubboes: So ask the owner to grant you access.
[05:57] <chubboes> okay what do I type to upgade to .10
[05:57] <bekks> chubboes: What exactly is the message you get when doing what exactly?
[05:57] <chriys> bekks: what should I look for?
[05:57] <bekks> chriys: reasons why it fails.
[05:57] <chriys> sorry to ask but I'm really a newbie on this
[05:57] <chubboes> after bacula-console-qt installed command "bat" gives permission denied msg?
[05:58] <absk007> theitus, "sudo apt-get install -y flashplugin-installer"
[05:58] <adam_> Hi, I need help. I am not liking the Ubuntu 14.04 desktop, is there a way I can install Xubuntu's or Ubuntu studio's?
[05:58] <bekks> chubboes: you need to either a) configure bat to be run as user b) or run bat using gksu bat
[05:58] <absk007> adam_, sure...
[05:58] <bekks> chubboes: that has nothing to do with being "owner".
[05:58] <adam_> absk007 How?
[05:59] <chubboes> :)
[05:59] <bekks> adam_: sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop
[05:59] <adam_> Okay thank you, Bekks
[05:59] <theitus> do i put that in just how its typed
[06:00] <absk007> theitus, yep! in terminal you can remove the "-y" flag if you wanna see the download confirmation
[06:00] <sparton> adam: what did you not like about the desktop?
[06:02] <absk007> adam_, good that you switching from unity of ubuntu. Canonical managed to insert contextual ads based on your desktop search which means they keep & use your search text for their profit.
[06:03] <sparton> absk007: you can disable that
[06:03] <adam_> Well, one. All the ad programs.
[06:03] <chriys> bekks: this the /var/lib/dpkg/info/red5-server.postinst http://pastebin.com/PgHFaBMn
[06:03] <adam_> Two, terminal should be sitting there from the get go.
[06:03] <absk007> sparton, sure. By uninstalling 'em. But why enable by default in the 1st place.
[06:03] <chriys> Honestly after looking into it I can't tell you if it's right or wrong
[06:03] <adam_> 3, its just hard.
[06:04] <adam_> Xubuntu and Ubuntu studio looks much better and much simpler.
[06:04] <absk007> adam_, sparton, https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2012/10/privacy-ubuntu-1210-amazon-ads-and-data-leaks
[06:04] <adam_> And the multi desktops
[06:04] <adam_> Just perfect.
[06:04] <sparton> adam_ : Xfce and kde play pretty well in 14.04, gnome3 used to break things in other versions.
[06:05] <bekks> chriys: So you have to start red5-server and see why it fails.
[06:05] <theitus> i didnt get anything
[06:05] <adam_> sparton I admit it is fast.
[06:05] <absk007> theitus, did you try this? "sudo apt-get install flashplugin-installer"
[06:05] <sparton> break things as in with unity......if your goal is to not retain unity that gnome3 is fine
[06:06] <bt2bn> hi - i can't seem to find an answer to this question elsewhere - sometimes when i use the show desktop button or minimise in some way I lose the windows i was using and can't seem to get them back - my conkys disappear, my browsers are there but they are bars and i can't work out how to restore them - probably a simple answer but can someone help please?
[06:06] <theitus> ok it left me with mext cmd line
[06:06] <adam_> My FX-4100 Ubuntu 14.04 is killing my Windows 7 i7 3750
[06:06] <theitus> next
[06:07] <adam_> theitus its done then.
[06:07] <absk007> theitus, it's because you have disabled partner sources
[06:07] <theitus> cool thx
[06:08] <absk007> may be not if everything is fine
[06:08] <absk007> :)
[06:08] <adam_> I have used Ubuntu studio and Xubuntu but Ubuntu 14.04 has a more stable kernel.
[06:08] <bekks> adam_: Thats ot true. Both use the same kernel.
[06:08] <chriys> bekks: do you know how can I locate this file invoke-rc.d: initscript red5-server, action "start" failed. ?
[06:08] <bekks> *not
[06:08] <chriys> invoke-rc.d
[06:08] <adam_> Bekks, they are slightly diferent.
[06:08] <adam_> Same linux based.
[06:08] <theitus> oh how do you if it works though\
[06:08] <bekks> chriys: "invoke-rc.d" is a command.
[06:08] <adam_> But different.
[06:09] <bekks> adam_: Thats not true. Both are _identical_.
[06:09] <adam_> Bekks, no.
[06:09] <sparton> adam_ : stable yes.....using AMD grfx i liked the enhancements 3.16 brought....which is what I switched to
[06:09] <absk007> Everyone must be aware of "Ubuntu security notices" http://www.ubuntu.com/usn/
[06:09] <bekks> adam_: They are identical. The only difference is the desktop environment used.
[06:09] <adam_> bekks nope, I have looked at both kernels.
[06:10] <adam_> I tend to add, my own security, Bekks.
[06:10] <absk007> theitus, run youtube.com
[06:10] <bekks> adam_: So Ubuntu has nothing to do with your kernel differences then.
[06:10] <adam_> No I have looked at the coding, bekks.
[06:10] <theitus> youtube runs
[06:11] <chubboes> bekks: How do I connect to the bat director?
[06:11] <adam_> Bekks, I make I read the directions.
[06:11] <adam_> Bekks I meant coding
[06:11] <absk007> theitus, run addictinggames.com
[06:11] <bekks> chubboes: There is no "bat director". There is a bacula director only.
[06:11] <adam_> I am in two chats.
[06:12] <theitus> i just cant get games to run like battlefield 1942
[06:12] <adam_> Theitus what is your specs?
[06:12] <bekks> adam_: There are no "different kernels" for Ubuntu Kubuntu, etc. - there is just one repository and thus only one kernel for all.
[06:12] <chubboes> bekks: accually the is a console connection to the Director
[06:12] <adam_> bekks, Studio was made by 3rd party based on Ubuntu 12
[06:12] <adam_> Bekks, then they took it there own way.
[06:13] <chubboes> bekks: gksu bat
[06:13] <absk007> theitus, is the game flash based?
[06:13] <chubboes> try it
[06:13] <theitus> ok how to check specs im kinda new to this
[06:13] <adam_> theitus, time to learn. Did you buy or build your PC?
[06:13] <theitus> yes its flash based
[06:13] <bekks> chubboes: Start the bacula director, and use bat to connect.
[06:14] <theitus> bought
[06:14] <chubboes> okay
[06:14] <bekks> adam_: Ubuntu studio uses a realtime kernel, which is also exactly the same as the realtime kernel in the official ubuntu repos.
[06:14] <adam_> bekks, Thats the old kernel.
[06:15] <absk007> adam_, everyone buys stuffs. No one has a factory backyard. :)
[06:15] <adam_> Bekks, they took it their own way.
[06:15] <adam_> absk007 I meant that did he buy the parts and put it together
[06:15] <absk007> :)
[06:15] <adam_> absk007 or did he buy it at a store
[06:15] <adam_> absk007 or from a friend
[06:15] <apickle> Hello everyone.
[06:15] <apickle> I was curious.
[06:16] <adam_> absk007 this Pc I have is my old AMD Gaming rig.
[06:16] <apickle> How is it that I obtain DHCP on my interface?
[06:16] <adam_> absk007 That I built
[06:16] <apickle> dhclient?
[06:16] <bekks> adam_: The did not take any other way than the official Ubuntu way. Ubuntu Studio is a official derivative ans uses official kernels only.
[06:17] <bekks> adam_: Please read the last paragraph here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuStudio/RealTimeKernel
[06:17] <adam_> bekks, they only would do that if they were official.
[06:17] <bekks> adam_: Ubuntustudio is official.
[06:17] <infinmed> HELLO!
[06:17] <adam_> bekks, which version?
[06:18] <adam_> Thats for their latest 14.04 but the older ones arent
[06:18] <bekks> adam_: Even 12.04 was official.
[06:18] <adam_> bekks, partially.
[06:18] <adam_> bekks, Kernel only
[06:19] <nico_07> hi :) . bekks do you know if are not differences to ubuntu desktop and server ? i'd read about the server is different ... in one post...but i don't know if this is real... :) thanks :)
[06:19] <bekks> nico_07: Different set of default applications installed.
[06:19] <chubboes> bekks: How do I connect to X server?
[06:19] <apickle> So... how do I force a DHCP address lease on Ubuntu server?
[06:19] <bekks> chubboes: you dont need to.
[06:19] <adam_> chubboes you are in one.
[06:19] <chubboes> YES!
[06:20] <adam_> !server
[06:20] <nico_07> ( i have install my ubuntu on a raid and i use the server edition for to do that ) ....
[06:20] <edition> ?
[06:21] <theitus> how to open apps
[06:21] <chriys> bekks: finally I installed it manually
[06:21] <bekks> chubboes: You have to tell us what exactly you are doing, and you have ti tell us the exact error message. We cantguess what you are doing.
[06:21] <bekks> theitus: Ubuntu has no apps, it's not a smartphone. Ubuntu has installed programs only :)
[06:22] <theitus> program sorry ;
[06:22] <bekks> theitus: Which desktop environment are you using?
[06:22] <chubboes> bekks:    bat: cannot connect to X server
[06:22] <theitus> studio if thats what you mean
[06:22] <bekks> chubboes: So you are not running it locally, are you?
[06:23] <chriys> thx for your help
[06:23] <bekks> theitus: Then you have a menu, with all programs listed, I guess?
[06:23] <nico_07> thanks... ( durin the installation i had the choice to add ubuntu desktop , and gnome , ubuntu studio ... ) so now  i have justthe normal ubuntu but in a raid... ( thanks :) )
[06:23] <chubboes> bekks: it practically is localhost
[06:23] <bekks> chubboes: What does that mean? Do you use ssh localhost?
[06:23] <apickle> sudo ifconfig -a?
[06:24] <theitus> no not on desktop
[06:24] <chubboes> bekks: com'own you know what I want
[06:24] <bekks> chubboes: I have no clue what you want. So I am asking for clarification and details.
[06:25] <chubboes> bekks: okay "X server"  how do I get a connection to it?
[06:25] <bekks> chubboes: you dont "get an connection to the X server". Do you run "bat" inside "ssh localhost"?
[06:26] <chubboes> no
[06:26] <chubboes> bekks: ssh no
[06:26] <bekks> chubboes: So how exactly are you starting bat if it is not "gksu bat"?
[06:27] <chubboes> bekks: gksu SET as IP then run bat
[06:27] <bekks> What does that mean? Why dont you run "gksu bat"?
[06:28] <chubboes> connection fails
[06:28] <bekks> Can you please provide full error messages, not just parts of them?
[06:28] <chubboes> okay hold on------
[06:29] <bekks> chubboes: We need to know exactly what you are doing, and we need full error messages, as I already meantioned. :)
[06:31] <chubboes> bekks: bat ABORTING due to ERROR in console.cpp:157 Failed to connect to (computers name) then for populateLists
[06:32] <chubboes> other one is
[06:32] <chubboes> bat: cannot connect to X server :0
[06:35] <Guest2493> W:Failed to fetch http://extras.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/natty/main/binary-i386/Packages  404  Not Found , W:Failed to fetch http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/natty/main/source/Sources  404  Not Found [IP: 91.189.91.13 80] , W:Failed to fetch http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/natty/restricted/source/Sources  404  Not Found [IP: 91.189.91.13 80] , W:Failed to fetch http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/natty/univ
[06:35] <Guest2493> can anybody help me with this
[06:36] <rww> Guest2493: Are you running Ubuntu 11.04?
[06:36] <Guest2493> yes
[06:36] <rww> If so, it's End of Life and its repositories thus got moved.
[06:36] <rww> !eolupgrades
[06:37] <Guest2493> thanks
[06:47] <apickle> So
[06:47] <apickle> I created another user account for my bro
[06:47] <apickle> How do I give him sudo privileges?
[06:47] <apickle> Under HIS account?
[06:48] <sillopotatis> Give him the sudo password
[06:48] <SchrodingersScat> I think you can either add him to /etc/sudoers or a group with sudo privileges
[06:48] <SchrodingersScat> could be called sudoers?
[06:50] <redeleven> What is the command in Lubuntu that I would use to update the entire system?
[06:52] <apickle> I thought there was a nice and easy command to do it in 14.04...
[06:52] <Mrokii> Hello. I've been using an SD-card (from my camera) for a long time without problems. But a few days ago, when I insert the card in the reader, it isn't mounted automatically anymore (I need to click its entry in a filewindow). Also I'm always asked my admin-password to mount and dismount it. And today I noticed that the card is mounted as read-only (not sure if both things happened at the same time). Any
[06:52] <Mrokii> thoughts?
[06:55] <chaosbringer> Hello all. I'm having a few issues trying to install ubuntu 14.04 due to EFI / Bios issues
[06:56] <chaosbringer> First, how do I make sure that I delete all bios/gpt partitions on my drives as to "reset" them?
[06:56] <chaosbringer> Something similar to dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sdX bs=512 count=1
[07:01] <Stoneer> exit
[07:07] <tyteen4a03> is it possible to convert a MBT disk with Windows on it to a GPT one without data loss on an ubuntu livecd?
[07:20] <ga_sk8er> ok i  got 1 small question
[07:20] <ga_sk8er> i just installed ubuntu 14.4 & as im waiting for a program to install, my screen went blank so i  mived mouse around. it asked for password. how do i  turn off that feature?
[07:23] <ga_sk8er> really? over 1000 ppl & nobody can answer?
[07:24] <cfhowlett> !patience | ga_sk8er,
[07:24] <cfhowlett> ga_sk8er, for instant answers, pay for canonical support.  otherwise, patience + the volunteers in this channel.
[07:25] <ga_sk8er> pay for support? forget that
[07:25] <PENGYU> @ga_sk8er
[07:25] <PENGYU> did u do the update?
[07:25] <PENGYU> and activate the drive?
[07:27] <ga_sk8er> google was cheaper....was in the settings & then "brightness & lock"
[07:28] <ga_sk8er> i just installed ubuntu tonight so i figured it was some default power setting just like in windows
[07:29] <PENGYU> ya and but there is almost nothing to be configured....
[07:30] <ga_sk8er> yeah
[07:30] <ga_sk8er> i knew what my issue was. i just didnt know where the setting was
[07:31] <PENGYU> u wanna set up what?
[07:31] <PENGYU> what is ur issue then
[07:32] <ga_sk8er> after a few mins of inactivity my screen went blank. then when i  moved my mouse it wanted my password again. i  set it to never go blank
[07:34] <PENGYU> does it work then?
[07:35] <PENGYU> just go setting- brightness and lock
[07:35] <ga_sk8er> yeah i googled & figured out where it was
[07:36] <PENGYU> k...
[07:38] <ga_sk8er> whats a good app to use for webcam?
[07:38] <cfhowlett> ga_sk8er, cheese
[07:38] <cfhowlett> !cheese
[07:39] <cfhowlett> !info cheese
[07:39] <ga_sk8er> ok i remmber back in ubuntu 12 i  used some kind of cheese program but back then my cam wasnt recognized by ubuntu
[07:40] <cfhowlett> ga_sk8er, guvcview is also well-regarded
[07:41] <ga_sk8er> oh awesome!!!!! the cam i  have now works on linux :D :D :D
[07:42] <TaZeR> cool now ur a sexy
[07:46] <zezey> omg omg omg
[07:47] <cfhowlett> zezey, ask your ubuntu questions
[07:47] <zezey> it's alive!  ubuntu running on virtual machine!
[07:50] <dyn> hi,everybody
[07:50] <ga_sk8er> so its a virtual ubuntu....a "vubuntu" ? lol
[07:52] <dyn> where can find the best tutorial for the usage of command line irc client?
[07:52] <cfhowlett> !irc | dyn,
[07:52] <cfhowlett> dyn, pretty sure irssi (irrsi?) has a tutorial
[07:52] <eanyx> hi
[07:53] <cfhowlett> eanyx, ask your ubuntu questions
[07:54] <eanyx> Did anyone know why ubuntu 14.04 can't resume properly on laptop HP pavillon when closing ?
[07:55] <eanyx> The disk seems to turn on, but black screen and cannot login. must do a forced power off and restart
[07:57] <LapJup> will this wireless mouse work in ubuntu? http://www.staples.com/Dell-WM123-Optical-Mouse-Aqua/product_1198192?cmArea=home_box1
[07:58] <eanyx> Another point why ubuntu 14.04 use a 3.13 kernel for it LTS (long term support) as official linux kernel (kernel.org) for long term are 3.12 and 3.14
[07:59] <ThePadawan> looking for a very lightweight ubuntu distro (was think about peppermint, bodhi). Only need a gui to maintain a dev folder that would be a pita to do over cli (because it haves quite complex structure)
[07:59] <cfhowlett> LapJup best way: go to your local staples store with your ubuntu machine/USB and test it
[07:59] <cfhowlett> !lubuntu | ThePadawan,
[08:00] <cfhowlett> !mini | ThePadawan,
[08:00] <dyn> how set gnome2 as the default desktop environment?
[08:01] <dyn> I love the gnome2 environment
[08:01] <cfhowlett> !gnome | dyn,
[08:02] <dyn> I do this ,but it seems that it is the gnome3 environment
[08:03] <wligtenberg> @dyn then have a look at mate
[08:03] <wligtenberg> @dyn then have a look at mate ubuntu-mate might be right for you, but is in development
[08:03] <Node_3> Good morning
[08:03] <wligtenberg> good morning
[08:04] <cfhowlett> wligupdate ! ubuntu_mate?  really?  an official distro or what?  Link?
[08:04] <dyn> mate2? is it stable?
[08:04] <Nordom> Hello, I just finished my first kernel compile and got an error at the end dealing with the make. Can someone help me understand what the error means?
[08:04] <cfhowlett> !kernel > nordom
[08:04] <dyn> @wligtenberg
[08:05] <Nordom> cfhowlett: really wasn't the answer to my problem =(
[08:07] <Node_3> I'm a little bit lost as to how X handles mouse pointers; specifically the relation between the master pointer and slave pointer and also the virtual pointing device and the actual hardware device and I'm looking for some documentation that will give me a good overview of how this system works
[08:08] <BlaXpirit> I want to create a bootable install USB drive. Will `sudo dd if=file.iso of=/dev/sdX` work?
[08:08] <BlaXpirit> talking about Ubuntu 14.04 desktop iso
[08:10] <Node_3> BlaXpirit: Yeah but add bs=4M
[08:10] <mindstorm> and sync
[08:10] <BlaXpirit> OK, thank you
[08:11] <dyn> does anybody has successfully install ubuntu on a x86 based tablet?
[08:12] <cfhowlett> !touch | dyn,
[08:13] <Node_3> Out of curiousity, has anyone here tried Weyland yet?
[08:15] <dyn> thanks @ubottu
[08:17] <edition> Wayland
[08:17] <Mint_lovers> Hello everyone
[08:17] <cfhowlett> Mint_lovers, ask your UBUNTU questions
[08:18] <cfhowlett> !info wayland > edition,
[08:18] <Mint_lovers> I am a novice
[08:19] <BlaXpirit> If one OS is already present on my computer, with GRUB as well, how can I make Ubuntu just "add" itself to GRUB and not take over as the boot partition?
[08:19] <Mint_destroyer> ok
[08:19] <cfhowlett> BlaXpirit, sudo update grub IIRC
[08:20] <helmut_> hi
[08:20] <BlaXpirit> cfhowlett, what does that mean and when do I do it and on which OS?
[08:20] <cfhowlett> !grub > BlaXpirit
[08:20] <Mint_lovers> I came in with translation software
[08:20] <Node_3> BlaXpirit: If both operating systems are using Grub they should both detect eachother. The only difference will likely be which operating system comes first in the list, but that can be changed later.
[08:20] <cfhowlett> Mint_lovers, ask your questions
[08:21] <chubboes> !libvirtd
[08:21] <BlaXpirit> Node_3, I just want Ubuntu to not override the existing GRUB
[08:22] <Node_3> BlaXpirit: I'm not sure how to do that in a regular install process. What I would do is to install Ubuntu as usual
[08:22] <Node_3> BlaXpirit: let it overwrite Grub and then boot into the old operating system and just run sudo update grub to have the old system overwrite the new one
[08:22] <BlaXpirit> but it's different partitions..? how does that even work
[08:23] <Node_3> BlaXpirit: Grub is installed on the bootsector
[08:23] <chubboes> !14.10
[08:23] <BlaXpirit> OK, kinda makes sense. thx
[08:23] <Node_3> BlaXpirit: or the EFI partition depending on your computer
[08:23] <Node_3> BlaXpirit: So it's installed in the same place for any operating system, you will not have duplicates
[08:23] <Mint_lovers> Ubuntu Mint how to install sougouPinyin on
[08:23] <Node_3> BlaXpirit: Atleast not with the same bootloader. If you have other bootloaders they will still be there though
[08:24] <BlaXpirit> well no, I don't think it is installed in boot sector, maybe just a pointer to the actual location, which is on an actual partition
[08:24] <chubboes> !sougouPinyin
[08:24] <geirha> BlaXpirit: tell the second install to not install a boot loader. Then boot into the first ubuntu and run update-grub. It should now detect both ubuntu installs
[08:24] <BlaXpirit> geirha, I like this suggestion more. was coming to that conclusion myself, but wasn't sure it would work. thank you.
[08:24] <chubboes> !pinyin
[08:24] <Guest94547> hi why ubuntu installer cant access my hdd ( otherwise i cant mount on doubleklick)
[08:25] <cfhowlett> !cn | chubboes,
[08:25] <Node_3> BlaXpirit: Geirha's suggestion does sound better. I didn't know Ubuntu offered the option to not install a boot loader
[08:25] <geirha> Node_3: Been a while since I've installed Ubuntu now, but it used to be on one of the last step, under an "Advanced" button
[08:26] <geirha> where you can specify which drive or partition to install grub on, or none at all
[08:26] <Node_3> geirha: Hmm. I didn't see any option like this installing 14.04
[08:27] <BlaXpirit> gonna try
[08:27] <BlaXpirit> either way it should be exactly the same actions
[08:28] <cfhowlett> Node_3, if you do the auto-install option, I don't think it shows.  If you manually configure ...
[08:29] <Node_3> cfhowlett: Ah
[08:30] <ubuNoobNe> hi why ubuntu installer cant access my hdd ( and i cant mount on doubleklick)
[08:30] <Node_3> I haven't used Linux in a very long time. I used to run obsd years ago
[08:30] <Node_3> I must say that I'm quite impressed with ubuntu.
[08:31] <ircguest192492> hello all, when using mdadm, do you apply raid before installing with the livecd or after? (I've been doing it before and my linear "raid" is not persisting)
[08:32] <ircguest192492> hello all, when using mdadm, do you apply raid before installing with the livecd or after? (I've been doing it before and my linear "raid" is not persisting)
[08:32] <bekks> ircguest192492: you have to create it during the installaing from the server iso.
[08:32] <ircguest192492> kk, thanks!
[08:34] <redeleven> Does anyone know of a chromebook that would allow me to install Ubuntu onto it?
[08:34] <astroduck> Hi! My nautilus keeps on toggling show hidden files and list/grid view randomly. Any fix for that?
[08:35] <cfhowlett> redeleven,   look up chromebuntu   chromebuntu
[08:37] <Node_3> I'm having a problem with the mouse cursor skipping pixels in both y and x axis on a Synaptics touchpad. I've tried to use synaptics noise cancellation and to disable pad resolution and to increase psmouse polling rate/resolution and to disable hw cursor but it doesn't solve the issue
[08:38] <Node_3> Is there another driver I can use?
[08:40] <ircguest2948> Btw, the ubuntu-server install doesn't support linear RAID
[08:40] <ircguest2948> like mdadm does, only raid 0 through raid 6
[08:40] <Mrokii> Hello. I've been using an SD-card (from my camera) for a long time without problems. But a few days ago, when I insert the card in the reader, it isn't mounted automatically anymore (I need to click its entry in a filewindow). Also I'm always asked my admin-password to mount and dismount it. And today I noticed that the card is mounted as read-only (not sure if both things happened at the same time). Any
[08:40] <Mrokii> thoughts?
[08:40] <mustu> hi, I'm tryign to install a downloaded .deb file with software-center but software center starts downloading the deb file again instead of installing from the deb on disk
[08:42] <Node_3> Mrokii, Sounds like the filesystem might be damaged
[08:42] <ircguest2948> So, is there no way to have linear raid (like mdadm has) using ubuntu prior to installation? (It goes away after a reboot when using the livecd)
[08:43] <Mrokii> Node_3: The filesystem on the SD card?
[08:43] <Node_3> Mrokii: Yeah.
[08:44] <Node_3> Mrokii: What filesystem do you use on it?
[08:45] <Mrokii> Node_3: I can reformat the card but I don't see why that would stop Ubuntu from mounting it automatically. I don't know about the filesystem on the SD-card. I never changed it, I'm just using it in my camera.
[08:46] <Node_3> Mrokii: Then it's most likely fat32. You shouldn't have to reformat it
[08:46] <ircguest2948> Any ideas to persist mdadm linear "raid" when installing the system using a live cd??
[08:47] <bekks> ircguest2948: Create the raid usong the server iso, during the installation. And what is a "linear raid"?
[08:47] <Mrokii> Node_3: I thought so. Never had that problem before I think, and no clue why Ubuntu suddenly changed its behaviour.
[08:47] <Node_3> Mrokii: try running sudo dosfsck -w -r -l -a -v -t /dev/whatever-device-your-sd-card-has
[08:47] <ircguest2948> bekks, https://raid.wiki.kernel.org/index.php/RAID_setup#Linear_mode
[08:48] <Node_3> Mrokii: You may have to install dosfstools first, (sudo apt-get install dosfstools)
[08:48] <Mrokii> Node_3: Okay, I'll try that, thanks.
[08:48] <bekks> ircguest2948: Ah, thats a JBOD in fact. :)
[08:48] <Node_3> Mrokii: It's the equivalent of chkdsk in Windows. Good for sd cards and pen drives that tend to run fat32 and get some damage when it's ejected improperly
[08:49] <ircguest2948> yes
[08:49] <ircguest2948> JBOD
[08:49] <bekks> ircguest2948: "linear mode" is just a functionality, in case you want that, better use LVM.
[08:49] <bekks> Create multiple physical volumes for LVM, add them to the same Volume Group, done.
[08:49] <ircguest2948> well, i want to specify where each thing goes, (I have an SSD which I want the OS to be installed to)
[08:50] <bekks> ircguest2948: And using LVM thats possible, too.
[08:50] <ircguest2948> and /home /var /opt /<custom> into the linear array
[08:50] <bekks> ircguest2948: USe LVM instead.
[08:50] <ircguest2948> Any guide on how to do that for 14.04?
[08:50] <ircguest2948> how complicated?
[08:51] <ircguest2948> I had searched for a decent LVM guide but it all seemed like you had to install and configure after the fact or such thing
[08:51] <bekks> ircguest2948: Much more easy than dealing with RAID. Bott the server iso, create physical volumes for LVM in the partitioning section, create one volume group, create logical volumes, and then just assign the volumes to the filesystems.
[08:51] <ircguest2948> there's also no options for doing so on the 14.04 Ubuntu Gnome CD
[08:51] <ircguest2948> i dled the server cd now
[08:51] <cfhowlett> !lvm
[08:52] <bekks> ircguest2948: thats why I suggested to use teh server iso.
[08:53] <ircguest2948> Kk,
[08:53] <ircguest2948> will reinstall now. be back if any issue
[08:53] <ircguest2948> thanks
[08:53] <Mrokii> Node_3: the command you gave didn't show anything useful (not much at all). I formatted the card but that didn't change anything either). Doesn't matter too much, the card still works as usual in the camera, it's only "read-only" in Ubuntu, so not too much of a problem. Thanks anyway.
[08:56] <imacat> why is the ubuntu window so tiny when running virtualbox on a win8.1 dell laptop?
[08:56] <imacat> i upped the video memory to 64megs
[08:57] <eeee_> imacat: ctrl+f for full screen i think
[08:57] <imacat> that's not it... the screen size doesn't change
[08:57] <imacat> it's like less than 640x480
[08:57] <eeee_> right control
[08:57] <eeee_> (not left)
[08:58] <eeee_> ah ok, i get it
[08:59] <eeee_> maybe change the resolution in the display setting's?
[09:00] <ircguest2948> http://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/120242/using-lvm-with-ssd-and-sata-drives
[09:01] <dar_> dfd
[09:02] <ircguest2948> bekks: http://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/120242/using-lvm-with-ssd-and-sata-drives
[09:02] <imacat> I had a boyfriend named Ubuntu once.  He would "play the bongos" on my ass.
[09:02] <imacat> I had a boyfriend named Ubuntu once.  He would "play the bongos" on my ass..
[09:02] <imacat> I had a boyfriend named Ubuntu once.  He would "play the bongos" on my ass...
[09:02] <imacat> I had a boyfriend named Ubuntu once.  He would "play the bongos" on my ass....
[09:02] <imacat> I had a boyfriend named Ubuntu once.  He would "play the bongos" on my ass.....
[09:02] <imacat> I had a boyfriend named Ubuntu once.  He would "play the bongos" on my ass......
[09:02] <unopaste> imacat you have been muted for 60 seconds as it looks like you are pasting lots of lines into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com and paste just the URL of your data here when you are unmuted
[09:02] <cfhowlett> !ops | imacat,
[09:03] <bekks> ircguest2948: It is a matter of fact that you can specify the physical device where to logical volume will be created. This applies to "lvcreate".
[09:03] <ircguest2948> So I would need two logical volumes
[09:03] <ircguest2948> one for / efi swap
[09:04] <ircguest2948> and then another for the rest of the partitions?
[09:04] <ircguest2948> is that common?
[09:04] <ircguest2948> I guess I would only be able to increase the first (ssd volume) by adding ssds and the hdd one by adding hdds
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[09:04] <ircguest2948> so I guess that makes sense
[09:04] <ircguest2948> if that's the case
[09:06] <bekks> ircguest2948: you need one partition for /boot/efi, one for /boot, and logical volumes for every other filesystem you want to have.
[09:08] <Node_3> Although not strictly necessary I would suggest making /home its own partition. In any case you need to re-install ubuntu that will save a lot of time.
[09:08] <cfhowlett> agreed but backup the backup as well
[09:09] <ircguest2948> Node_3: I was trying to do the following -- / /boot/efi swap >> SSD | /home /var /opt >> HDD
[09:09] <ircguest2948> i'm reading up on LVM
[09:10] <ircguest2948> but it seems that then the SSD would have one logical volume
[09:10] <ircguest2948> and the 2 HDDs would have 1 logical volume
[09:10] <ircguest2948> with those partitions the way I mentioned
[09:10] <Node_3> ircguest2948: Personally I would put /home as a smaller partition on the ssd and then make a second partition for big files (downloads, video, music, pictures etc.) and mount it inside your home folder
[09:10] <Node_3> ircguest2948: That way you would get the benefit of ssd speeds when reading local settings and cache files
[09:11] <ircguest2948> Makes sense
[09:11] <Node_3> How much memory do you have?
[09:12] <ircguest2948> 32 GB of ram
[09:12] <ircguest2948> DDR3
[09:12] <Node_3> Yeah, skip putting the swap on the ssd
[09:12] <Node_3> Use that space for something else ;)
[09:12] <ircguest2948> I was thinking about not having any swap at all
[09:12] <Node_3> ircguest2948: Although Linux will rarely use it, you should make a swap partition
[09:12] <ircguest2948> but i guess i won't miss 2 gb
[09:12] <ircguest2948> yeah
[09:12] <ircguest2948> that's what I figured
[09:13] <Node_3> But I would make it on the hdd
[09:13] <ircguest2948> Kk, created a boot-usb
[09:13] <Node_3> With 32gig of ram, unless you're doing some extreme stuff, linux shouldn't have to page.. ever
[09:13] <ircguest2948> I do some extreme stuff
[09:13] <Node_3> video editing?
[09:13] <ircguest2948> vagrant + puppet etc
[09:13] <bekks> Node_3: And the swap is used for suspending, too.
[09:13] <ircguest2948> I run networks of VMs for programming purposes
[09:13] <Node_3> bekks: That's true. I almost forgot about that
[09:13] <bekks> Node_3: So if you choose suspend to disk, you need as much swap as RAM.
[09:14] <ircguest2948> Good to know
[09:14] <Node_3> bekks: Yeah
[09:14] <ircguest2948> Didn't know that
[09:14] <ircguest2948> ok so
[09:14] <ircguest2948> 32GB of of swap on HDD LV
[09:14] <Node_3> So as bekks suggested, in any case you're going to suspend the computer you should reserve 32gig for it. If you want to suspend fast I suggest putting it on the SSD if you have space
[09:14] <ircguest2948> Well
[09:15] <ircguest2948> i'm probably going to buy more SSDs in the next months
[09:15] <Node_3> You can use TuxOnIce in order to save some space..
[09:15] <bekks> ircguest2948: Then you can change that setup later on.
[09:15] <ircguest2948> What do you mean
[09:16] <ircguest2948> I'm saying I can probably put everything on the SSD LV and keep the large files on the HDD LV
[09:16] <ircguest2948> would that be best?
[09:16] <bekks> ircguest2948: That you can change your setup if necessary in a few month after buying more SSD.
[09:16] <bekks> ircguest2948: No, thats not best.
[09:17] <ircguest2948> So the 32GB of swap should be on the HDD LV?
[09:17] <bekks> ircguest2948: For a fast suspend no, for saving space on the SSD yes.
[09:17] <ircguest2948> So what would be the best? Is a fast suspend not a good thing?
[09:17] <ircguest2948> I'm not understanding
[09:17] <Node_3> ircguest2948: Yeah, when you're suspending everything in ram would have to be written to your hdd which, with 32gig, would take time
[09:17] <bekks> ircguest2948: It depends on how important things are to you.
[09:18] <ircguest2948> bekks: what is your suggestion
[09:18] <Node_3> ircguest2948: If you put the swap on the ssd, then when you suspend everything in ram will be written to your ssd instead which will make suspending faster
[09:18] <ircguest2948> Node_3: that's what I was thinking as well
[09:18] <Node_3> ircguest2948: Ah then we misread you :)
[09:18] <bekks> ircguest2948: I dont know how important things are to you.
[09:18] <ircguest2948> bekks: seems to disagree
[09:18] <Node_3> ircguest2948: No, he just misread you aswell but he seems to have aspergers or something
[09:18] <ircguest2948> lol
[09:19] <bekks> Node_3: Stop insulting people. Thank you.
[09:19] <Node_3> ircguest2948: Anyways, everything on the ssd is fine and big files on the hdd
[09:19] <Node_3> bekks: You're welcome
[09:19] <Node_3> ircguest2948: swap on the ssd if you want your suspends to be fast, if you don't care about how long it takes to suspend the computer then put the swap on the hdd
[09:19] <ircguest2948> It seems you have the ability to create Primary or Logical volumes using the standard install liveCD
[09:19] <ircguest2948> is that not suggested?
[09:21] <Node_3> ircguest2948: Doesn't matter much these days
[09:26] <Node_3> Anyways, i'm off.
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[09:36] <unopaste> Zooklubba you have been muted for 60 seconds as it looks like you are pasting lots of lines into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com and paste just the URL of your data here when you are unmuted
[09:54] <cyclist_2> Hi, there! I had to press the reset button on my laptop and the icon on the workspace that allowed me to switch users, restart and shutdown cleanly has vanished; is there a way to bring it back without a restart? I tried adding it again to the pannel, but it was not there [there're only apps to switch users and to shutdown, but not one to restart...]
[09:55] <mint17> hello all
[09:55] <reversiblean> Let's say i updated bunch of packages from external PPAs and i no longer remember their ppa names or do not have them on the apt-sources, how do i use ppa-purge or downgrade those packages to the default ones?
[09:56] <reversiblean> Is there way i could list/find the non-default/external packages?
[09:57] <mint17> ok if no one helps i`l fly away
[09:57] <mint17> :)
[10:05] <Edico> hi
[10:05] <NorCalRob> hi
[10:07] <Edico> I remained without space on my rood directory. I don't know what occupy my space, I have /home on separate partition. I see that /usr/src has 1.5 GB with linux-headers*
[10:08] <Edico> should I remove linux-headers of the other versions than I use with rm command or is there a tool do do that?
[10:09] <cfhowlett> Edico, first sudo apt-get autoclean
[10:10] <cyclist_2> Edico: you do not need to keep all linux-headers acquired from previous updates; they take quite a bit of space on th HD
[10:11] <cyclist_2> Edico: but be sure to keep the last 2 or 3, just in case the last one breaks something...
[10:14] <absk007> Edico, you probably run many things being root
[10:15] <absk007> check "ls -A /root"
[10:16] <Edico> absk007, no, I don't run things as root, just with the user created
[10:17] <absk007> hmm.. then it's complicated
[10:17] <absk007> apt-get autoclean doesn't clean /root. It cleans /var/cache/archives
[10:17] <absk007> ^/var/cache/apt/archives
[10:19] <Edico> I removed /usr/src/linux-headers* I don't use
[10:19] <Edico> I have enough space now
[10:19] <cfhowlett> absk007, apt-get autoremove is also good for the occasional spring cleaning
[10:19] <linuxuz3r> apt-get autoremove
[10:20] <absk007> but doesn't clean /root i suppose
[10:20] <cfhowlett> absk007, nope.  command man apt        will tell you all about apt options
[10:21] <Edico> thank you very much to all
[10:22] <absk007> Edico, all clear?
[10:23] <absk007> cfhowlett, autoremove is used to remove packages that were automatically
[10:23] <absk007> installed to satisfy dependencies for some package and that are no
[10:23] <absk007> more needed.
[10:24] <absk007> where does the dependencies get installed?
[10:24] <Edico> yes, I did that also
[10:24] <cfhowlett> absk007, depends. get installed all over ...
[10:24] <absk007> don't they get installed to /usr/bin & /usr/lib?
[10:25] <absk007> how to see disk analysis from terminal?
[10:29] <linuxuz3r> absk007, what do you mean by disk analysis
[10:29] <niop> hi, how to include multiple ip addresses on the same host in ssh file?
[10:29] <niop> repeat the host spec for each ip?
[10:30] <absk007> linuxuz3r, folder wise size recursively
[10:30] <niop> as in repeat this?:
[10:30] <niop> Host nas01
[10:30] <niop>      HostName 192.168.1.100
[10:30] <niop>      User root
[10:30] <niop>      IdentityFile ~/.ssh/nas01.key
[10:31] <linuxuz3r> absk007, du -h
[10:32] <absk007> duh??
[10:32] <linuxuz3r> i thought you meant disk performance
[10:32] <linuxuz3r> du -h
[10:32] <absk007> yeah! got that. duh??
[10:32] <absk007> :)
[10:33] <akyros> silly
[10:35] <davidga> hi  all
[10:35] <davidga> i have an asus x551
[10:35] <davidga> and wanted to try ubuntu
[10:35] <davidga> i get a kernel panic when trying to start ubuntu
[10:35] <davidga> what can i do in this issue
[10:36] <linuxuz3r> use a livecd
[10:36] <davidga> i have a live usb
[10:36] <davidga> created by rufus
[10:36] <cfhowlett> davidga, who the heck is rufuf??!
[10:36] <davidga> they guy who sold me the computer told me that it is an uefi machine
[10:36] <davidga> http://rufus.akeo.ie/
[10:37] <davidga> it has no bios
[10:37] <davidga> he told me that i should create the live usb with rufus
[10:37] <cfhowlett> davidga, never heard of that tool - and I've been using ubuntu since 2007.
[10:37] <davidga> i downloaded the LTS
[10:38] <Irbur> how does a computer have no bios?
[10:38] <cfhowlett> davidga, did you verify the ISO?
[10:38] <davidga> how do i verify it ?
[10:38] <lilstevie> Irbur, UEFI is technically firmware not BIOS ;)
[10:38] <cfhowlett> !md5sum | david
[10:38] <lilstevie> and isn't legacy bios which is what most people refer to ;)
[10:39] <Irbur> oh, sorry, thanks!
[10:39] <linuxuz3r> so ubuntu doesnt work with uefi
[10:39] <linuxuz3r> ?
[10:39] <linuxuz3r> !uefi
[10:39] <lilstevie> linuxuz3r, ubuntu works just fine with uefi :p
[10:40] <linuxuz3r> ok
[10:40] <Irbur> My computer is UEFI, it works fine!
[10:40] <Pencil_> I click on my home folder on the panel and nothing happens.  Can someone tell me what's broken?
[10:41] <linuxuz3r> ok
[10:41] <linuxuz3r> ok thanks guys
[10:41] <linuxuz3r> im out
[10:42] <davidga> i downloaded and it told that md5 checksum is different
[10:42] <davidga> so i assume that there was a download error
[10:42] <cfhowlett> davidga, bad ISO = bad installation
[10:42] <davidga> is this correct?
[10:42] <davidga> this was stupid easy
[10:42] <cfhowlett> davidga, correct.  download with torrent usually is more reliable method
[10:43] <davidga> thanks a lot from saving me dumping the
[10:43] <davidga> thanks a lot
[10:43] <cfhowlett> davidga happy2help
[10:44] <Kira9204> i just realized, why does no browser come with torrent aupport o.o
[10:44] <cfhowlett> Kira9204, cuz it's stupid easy to add
[10:44] <brotherBox> Kira9204: how would that even work?
[10:45] <elf_> ping
[10:45] <cfhowlett> !test | elf_,
[10:45] <serviscope_minor> hi
[10:46] <serviscope_minor> Just installed ubuntu 14.04, with XFCE. It's mostly a success, but I have a few minor problems.
[10:47] <serviscope_minor> 1. Doesn't respond to the sleep button or lid close. If I send the right dbus invocation from the shell, it does indeed sleep so that works. Not sure how to go about debugging that.
[10:47] <akyros> serviscope_minor, have you tried LXLE? - over the past couple of years I went through a few light-weight Linux distros to run on my old laptop (mist Ubuntu / Debian derivatives)
[10:47] <serviscope_minor> 2. The icon for nm-applet doesn't appear in the system tray, even if I use a separate standalone tray like stalonetray.
[10:47] <Kira9204> cfhowlett: yes, but if you think from a users perspective they will always go the easy route that works out of the box
[10:48] <serviscope_minor> akyros: it's regular standard ubuntu.
[10:48] <serviscope_minor> I just happen to prefer XFCE to unity
[10:48] <Kira9204> guess why IE has such market share on Windows? Becuse its already there and default
[10:48] <serviscope_minor> 3. It's now stuck on US keyboard. I can do the right xkb invocation from the shell as before, but doesn't seem optimal.
[10:49] <serviscope_minor> 2 is th most annoying since the workarounds are substantially more of a pain than the other two.
[10:49] <serviscope_minor> Any ideas on where to look at fixing these?
[10:49] <akyros> serviscope_minor, Heh I did that too for a while after Unity was introduced as default instead of Gnome2 on my fast (desktop) box but ended up just switching to KDE/Kubuntu - too many things to tweak in XFCE to make it work to my liking
[10:49] <serviscope_minor> akyros: it's only a few years old. i5 of a decent speed, and 4G ram.
[10:50] <serviscope_minor> akyros: well, this isn't actually for me. It's for a friend. Personally, I prefer FVWM2, but I'm old-fashioned like that.
[10:50] <serviscope_minor> but nonethelessit ought to work. I'm fairly sure 2 would be a problem on FVWM as well, since nm-applet seems busted, not XFCE in this case.
[10:52] <darksider> hi guys, i'm facing a very strange issue. I'm mounting a network share using cifs in fstab and it works, but when I try to do the same thing using the mount command (with the same options) I get access denied
[10:52] <ActionParsnip> darksider: did you prefix the command with sudo?
[10:53] <darksider> i am logged in as root
[10:53] <Kira9204> serviscope_minor: did you just install that? either way you can reset unity and change all localization optiobns in the settings menu
[10:53] <ActionParsnip> darksider: not wise but ok
[10:53] <serviscope_minor> Kira9204: yep I just instaled.
[10:54] <ActionParsnip> darksider: what is the output of: cat /etc/issue
[10:54] <darksider> ActionParsnip: I agree, its just temporary :)
[10:54] <serviscope_minor> Kira9204: also the setup has given me a keyboard switcher icon in the tray, but it only has 2 identical choices for US keyboards
[10:54] <darksider> syslog shows: Status code returned 0xc000006d NT_STATUS_LOGON_FAILURE
[10:55] <ActionParsnip> darksider: what is the output of: cat /etc/issue
[10:55] <darksider> ActionParsnip: Ubuntu 14.04.1 LTS \n \l
[10:55] <darksider> thats all
[10:56] <ActionParsnip> darksider: did you set a username and password to access the share with?
[10:56] <Kira9204> serviscope_minor: yes, but you can add more options and languages in the settings
[10:56] <darksider> ActionParsnip: i use the same credentials file as in fstab, it works there
[10:56] <serviscope_minor> Kira9204: it's odd though. It correctly figured out I was in the UK when I installed.
[10:57] <ActionParsnip> darksider: can you mount it using: sudo mount /mount/point , using the entry in /etc/fstab
[10:57] <darksider> yes
[10:58] <ActionParsnip> darksider: hmmm, not sure then. Sorry
[10:58] <ActionParsnip> darksider: could report a bug
[10:58] <darksider> no problem, thanks for trying :)
[11:00] <BartlomiejB> hi.
[11:00] <Kira9204> serviscope_minor: yeah, but didn`t you choose a diffrent keyboard layout during the installation?
[11:01] <p78artist> hello :)
[11:01] <Kira9204> also, you can use this: sudo dpkg-reconfigure locales
[11:01] <BartlomiejB> I installed Ubuntu on Acer Aspire S7-391 and now I have unusable computer: the only message after starting the computer is "No bootable device found".
[11:02] <Kira9204> BartlomiejB: did you install from USB?
[11:02] <BartlomiejB> I tried to run boot-repair to no avail: here is a log that this tool produced: http://paste.ubuntu.com/7991980/
[11:02] <ActionParsnip> BartlomiejB: did you set the boot device back to the internal drive?
[11:02] <BartlomiejB> Kira9204: yes, I did.
[11:02] <serviscope_minor> Kira9204: It selected UK during installation so I kept that,
[11:03] <ActionParsnip> BartlomiejB: you cqn also boot to the USB but boot the installed OS instead of the liveCD desktop
[11:04] <cyclist_2> Hi, there! I had to press the reset button on my laptop and the icon on the tray that allowed me to switch users, restart and shutdown cleanly has vanished
[11:04] <cyclist_2> is there a way to bring it back without a restart? I tried adding it again to the pannel, but it was not there [there're only apps to switch users and to shutdown, but not one to restart...]
[11:04] <BartlomiejB> ActionParsnip: how can I do that? I don't have that option when booting from USB.
[11:04] <cyclist_2> I need it because of another software problem which prevents me from using the keyboard
[11:04] <ActionParsnip> BartlomiejB: I thought the USB had the option to boot first drive
[11:05] <ActionParsnip> BartlomiejB: you can always boot to the liveCD and chroot to the installed OS then run updates and install Grub to the MBR
[11:05] <BartlomiejB> ActionParsnip: UEFI doesn't use MBR, AFAIK.
[11:06] <ActionParsnip> Ah
[11:06] <ActionParsnip> !uefi
[11:06] <ActionParsnip> BartlomiejB: not used uefi, it sounds like the devil
[11:08] <Kira9204> grub always ibstalls to /dev/sda during installation, however, depending ob the bios sometimes the USB drive occupies that namne making grub intall itself to the usb stick
[11:10] <BartlomiejB> Kira9204: I choose to install do /dev/mapper/...HDA0 during installer. perhaps it was mistake...
[11:12] <p78artist> hello :) i have a problem with the xfce-panel. all time i start my pc, the panel does not autostart. i set xfce4-panel in the autostart settings. but it didnt work. and sorry for my bad english
[11:12] <Kira9204> BartlomiejB: could very well be that it installed to the wrong drive yes
[11:13] <TJ-> BartlomiejB: It looks as if the UEFI boot-menu has been messed up
[11:13] <Kira9204> i tent to mound the HDA/SDA just to be sure beforehand
[11:13] <Kira9204> *mount
[11:16] <melvincv> I wonder why forticlient SSL VPN does not support Linux any more... i have not seen a version 5 forticlient for Linux, but they did release a version 4.
[11:18] <crazyhorse> can someone recommend a batch image resizer for ubuntu?
[11:18] <cfhowlett> crazyhorse, imagemagick will do batches IINM
[11:19] <cfhowlett> crazyhorse, phatch definitely will do batches
[11:24] <antheum> Hi all. I am running ubuntu 14.04. I need to place a config_fw_loader in the .config file. Can anyone assist
[11:26] <TJ-> antheum: It's already enabled and set-up
[11:26] <antheum> I have looked in the .config file and can't see it
[11:27] <antheum> TJ: I have looked in the .config older and can't see it
[11:27] <TJ-> antheum: "grep FW_LOADER /boot/config-`uname -r`" => "CONFIG_FW_LOADER=y  CONFIG_FW_LOADER_USER_HELPER=y"
[11:28] <antheum> TJ I am a bit of a newbee. You may have to expand
[11:29] <antheum> TJ: and aspie
[11:29] <TJ-> antheum: I showed you the command that confirms the feature is enabled. Udev handles firmware loading
[11:31] <antheum> TJ: ok so I type that into terminal. where the command says 'uname' do I replace with my user name?
[11:31] <juveniledelinque> hello everyone, my computer freezes often. it is not permanent freeze, the cursor moves every now and then, but it takes forever the computer to recover (never happened, at least, I didnt wait that long)
[11:31] <TJ-> antheum: Type the command *exactly* as I show it inside the double-quotes
[11:32] <antheum> TJ: many thanks
[11:32] <TJ-> antheum: You can copy/paste the command instead of typing, to avoid typing errors
[11:32] <TJ-> antheum: firmware files are expected to be in "/lib/firmware/"
[11:33] <juveniledelinque> when it began to slow down, I checked ram, and its % use was normal, I guess. %20 for firefox, %6-10 for chromium. all the rest values close to zero
[11:33] <antheum> TJ: ok there you go I didn't realise you can copy and paste from here
[11:33] <TJ-> antheum: I think that facility sometimes can depend on the IRC client you use, but most should support it :)
[11:33] <juveniledelinque> the hard drive is ok, too
[11:34] <juveniledelinque> for ex. I can move the cursor now, but the computer makes still no move
[11:34] <TJ-> juveniledelinque: does it occur predictably? Is it always when you have particular applications running?
[11:35] <TJ-> juveniledelinque: Once you have control again, view the end of "/var/log/kern.log" for clues - match the timestamps of the log messages with the time the issue occurs, there may be clues.
[11:35] <antheum> TJ: it says no such file or directory
[11:36] <juveniledelinque> TJ- it occurs a while after I start the device, within half an hour or so, not longer. it may be particular applications, because I almost always use the same applications lately
[11:36] <TJ-> antheum: That's not good. Which Ubuntu release is it ("cat /etc/issue") ?
[11:36] <neutralizer> hi, what is Host LAN IP from inside the container? is it docker0 from host? or eth0 from container?
[11:36] <TJ-> juveniledelinque: It almost sounds like paging to swap partition due to some process eating up RAM and causing pages to be swapped out.
[11:37] <remonm96> can anybode help me with installing atraci on ubuntu 14.04 lts?
[11:37] <antheum> TJ: ah ok it did come back with the print out you mentioned
[11:38] <antheum> TJ: I had cut and pasted the whole thing, like a proper noob
[11:38] <juveniledelinque> TJ- what process can it be? something happening at the background, a malware?
[11:38] <TJ-> antheum: :) we all are at some point
[11:40] <TJ-> juveniledelinque: I've seen some web-sites with bad Javascript cause a tab in a browser to cause it, and because you can't get to the terminal to check, it has often gone by the time you can check. In those cases I have a terminal open and visible running "top" ready to catch it.
[11:40] <juveniledelinque> and this happens on and off for over a month now. It seemed to have been gone after a reinstall a month ago, but lately it returned
[11:41] <juveniledelinque> TJ- I have exactly that now. the terminal open with 'top' running. but I cant see the terminal
[11:41] <juveniledelinque> I cant get to it
[11:41] <antheum> TJ: I also need a working userspace infrastructure configured.
[11:41] <TJ-> juveniledelinque: I've also noticed that effect when using the -lowlatency variations of the kernel, but then, the mouse pointer also freezes.
[11:41] <TJ-> antheum: As I said, Udev handles it
[11:42] <TJ-> antheum: It has built-in support for firmware loading. The rules file is simple: "/lib/udev/rules.d/50-firmware.rules"
[11:42] <antheum> TJ: what about the working userspace infrastructure configured
[11:45] <TJ-> antheum: see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/Firmware
[11:52] <antheum> TJ: thank you
[11:54] <DataGG> Yo there
[11:54] <juveniledelinque> TJ- I viewed kernel log, I cant detect any anomaly with my knowledge.
[11:54] <DataGG> one quick question: Is kernel 3.16 stable?
[11:54] <DataGG> Or should I go with 3.15.9?
[11:55] <juveniledelinque> but timestamps are not in continuity, there are gap points between them, like 50 min, 20 min..
[11:55] <SP33D> can some one plz help me to setup syslog so it don't logs one msg
[11:55] <SP33D> i simply don't understand this filter syntax right i don't know why
[11:56] <SP33D> i need other examples maybe can some one paste me a example of filter out of this
[11:56] <SP33D> Aug 10 13:52:46 h1 kernel: [134491.379425] type=1400 audit(1407671566.244:12928365): apparmor="DENIED" operation="ptrace" profile="docker-default" pid=3728 comm="ps" requested_mask="trace" denied_mask="trace" peer="docker-default"
[11:57] <SP33D> as i understand it comes from the kernl log part but i don't know how to filter that out so it don't gets logged
[12:00] <DataGG> Is kernel 3.16 stable? Or should I go with 3.15.9?
[12:02] <k1l_> DataGG: last stable ubuntu uses 3.13. so we suggest to use that
[12:05] <AlexPortable> I used unetbootin to make clonezilla bootable usb stick, but when i want to boot from usb stick i get 'no bootable medium found. insert bootable medium and press any key'.
[12:05] <TJ-> DataGG: 3.16 has some regressions in the PCI handling code that can affect allocation of expanded bridge windows
[12:08] <juveniledelinque> TJ- sorry, I was disconnected, if you replied me meanwhile.
[12:10] <TJ-> juveniledelinque: timestamps being far apart in time sometimes happens if nothing much is going on in the hardware department :)
[12:10] <b14ck> hello, can anyone tell me if there are any specific router settings i should make to connect wireless ? (i had another linux distrib. installed and it worked before)
[12:10] <crazyhorse> it places the usb stick in the drive, it sees the usb stick in the disk utility, it doesn't see the mounted usb stick
[12:10] <crazyhorse> what should it do?
[12:11] <juveniledelinque> TJ- oh, i see, thank you. but still dont know what could be devouring the system's resources
[12:11] <crazyhorse> it sees the volume  says "unknown 2.0Gb"
[12:13] <TJ-> juveniledelinque: Have you over-clocked the PC? Have you recently added any hardware devices? The best way to test it is to log-in and not open any applications for a while and see if it still happens. If you want to leave the PC while that test is running, open a terminal and run a simple script "while true; do echo "I'm still alive at $(date)"; sleep 1; done"
[12:16] <cfhowlett> b14ck, set your router to defaults is the usual answer
[12:17] <antheum> TJ: if x retrieves y from files in /lib/firmware, what is /lib/firmware
[12:17] <TJ-> antheum: A directory in the file-system
[12:18] <antheum> TJ: in relationship to its command
[12:18] <TJ-> antheum: I don't understand your question
[12:19] <antheum> TJ: ah ok. and how would I find that file in ubuntu
[12:19] <TJ-> antheum: Do you have an actual problem with an Ubuntu installation... because your questions are probably more appropriate for ##linux
[12:19] <k1l_> antheum: its a folder
[12:19] <juveniledelinque> TJ- admittedly a funny script :)
[12:19] <TJ-> juveniledelinque: By *very* informative :)
[12:19] <TJ-> juveniledelinque: s/By/But/
[12:19] <antheum> TJ: there is no problem. I am just learning how the system works
[12:20] <zagaza> hi guys, how do I give a folder basic web permission? just read or whatever it is
[12:20] <antheum> TJ: and the terminology. using windows, thus far, keeps you away from the good stuff
[12:21] <ActionParsnip> zagaza: what do you mean 'web permission'
[12:21] <antheum> TJ: can I give you an example
[12:21] <juveniledelinque> TJ- I haven't overclocked it, and I dont use the device with any hardware attached. I bet it wouldnt get jammed without any open application, or maybe even when only a browser window is open. I'll try this
[12:21] <zagaza> ActionParsnip I get You don't have permission to access /index.html on this server.
[12:21] <b14ck> cfhowlett: thanks
[12:21] <cfhowlett> b14ck, happy2help
[12:22] <ActionParsnip> zagaza: I have full system access via sudo
[12:22] <zagaza> I mean I get that in my browser
[12:22] <ActionParsnip> zagaza: what is the access on hthe file?
[12:23] <zagaza> what do you mean?
[12:23] <ActionParsnip> zagaza: what permissions are on the file you cannot access?
[12:23] <zagaza> gonna check
[12:25] <zagaza> 6560
[12:26] <zagaza> sorry, 600
[12:30] <yellabs> hello there
[12:30] <yellabs> is there a way to show a realtime clock on bash ?
[12:31] <TJ-> yellabs: "date" ?
[12:31] <yellabs> when i do date, it show clock , but not a live version
[12:31] <cfhowlett> yellabs, time
[12:31] <yellabs> time shows a bunch of zero
[12:32] <TJ-> yellabs: The command runs, reports, exits. If you want it to continuously update you won't be able to type commands in the same terminal
[12:32] <Paddy_NI> If I wanted to upgrade/install the latest stable Gnome on Ubuntu 14.04 would I use "Staging PPA" or the "Gnome Team PPA"?
[12:32] <TJ-> yellabs: "time" is for timing the execution of commands, not for RTC
[12:32] <Paddy_NI> Or perhaps both?
[12:32] <yellabs> ok
[12:33] <TJ-> yellabs: if you're keen to see the latest time you could edit the bash shell prompt PS1 to show the time
[12:33] <zagaza> so what's the correct way to go about permissions? should I set permissions on a folder, or on all the files? if i want them to be readable by web users
[12:34] <yellabs> yeah i did edit the .bashrc  , but indeed its a frozen time
[12:35] <MonkeyDust> zagaza  methinks #ubuntu-server is the channel you need
[12:36] <zagaza> cool thanks
[12:37] <yellabs> ah, well, i see now that a live clock is not an option
[12:37] <TJ-> yellabs: if you use 'screen' you could add the time to the optional status bar, or just press Ctrl+A T for instant time
[12:38] <elmaestro> hi guys, wat does it mean when i can browse but there is no assigned wired connection in network manager on sys tray?
[12:39] <cfhowlett> elmaestro, sure you're not on wifi
[12:39] <MonkeyDust> elmaestro  maybe you're connected through a wifi connection
[12:40] <MonkeyDust> elmaestro  even accidentally, through some unsecured wifi connected you're not aware of
[12:40] <ActionParsnip> zagaza: what sort of access do you want?
[12:40] <MonkeyDust> connection*
[12:41] <zagaza> ActionParsnip: I want my web folder and it's files to be accessed by anyone in browsers
[12:41] <ActionParsnip> elmaestro: run: sudo lshw -C network , you will see what is connected and not
[12:42] <ActionParsnip> zagaza: who is the owner and group on the file?
[12:42] <yellabs> ah , lovely hackers..
[12:42] <yellabs> thanks for time, take care..
[12:42] <yellabs> beaming into the real world
[12:43] <yellabs> :)
[12:43] <zagaza> ActionParsnip: a user I created
[12:43] <ActionParsnip> zagaza: and what user does the web server process run as?
[12:43] <chriys> hey guys does someone has a good link to lock user in their home directories for sftp (openssh-server) on ubuntu 12.04
[12:43] <chriys> ?
[12:43] <zagaza> ActionParsnip: sorry don't know how to look that up?
[12:44] <TJ-> ActionParsnip: there's two answer sessions going on; one's in #ubuntu-sever :)
[12:44] <ActionParsnip> zagaza: id keep it in #ubuntu-server but if the user running the process doesnt have permissions on the file you will get issues
[12:44] <zagaza> TJ- yeah I got directed to #ubuntu-server
[12:44] <ActionParsnip> Tj-: thanks
[12:45] <antheum> Hey Ubuntu. is there a difference between user@bash and $
[12:46] <ActionParsnip> chriys: https://www.linode.com/docs/tools-reference/tools/limiting-access-with-sftp-jails-on-debian-and-ubuntu
[12:46] <darkelfjuggalo> I usually use .deb or apt-get to get files from a repository... I have a Tar.bz file i need to extract, can someone remind me the proper code to do so
[12:46] <ActionParsnip> antheum: what do you mean 'user@bash' ?
[12:46] <sydney> If i install zram,will it hurt my system? like make it crash? Also,how do i use it? I know what it does :)
[12:47] <chriys> ActionParsnip: thx
[12:47] <ActionParsnip> darkelfjuggalo: install unp and you can use it to extract anything
[12:47] <TJ-> darkelfjuggalo: "tar -xf <archive.tar.gz>"
[12:47] <antheum> well I am just going through some documentation and it is talking about the command line. However, it its examples are user#bash. I don't have that when I open the terminal
[12:47] <ActionParsnip> sydney: I suggest you researh a little
[12:48] <MonkeyDust> sydney  if ubottu says it's ok, i guess it's ok
[12:48] <MonkeyDust> !zra
[12:48] <ActionParsnip> antheum: bash is just a shell. You automatically run bash when you start a terminal
[12:48] <MonkeyDust> !zram
[12:48] <sydney> ok :) I was curious when i came across it :)
[12:48] <antheum> ActionParsnip: thank you
[12:49] <ActionParsnip> sydney: also set vm.swappiness to 1. If you lots of RAM you won't use swap unless you suspend etc.
[12:50] <sydney> ActionParsnip: i have tried that,but it causes my programs to crash :-/
[12:51] <Tzunamii> sydney: How much RAM do you have in that system and what programs are crashing?
[12:51] <sydney> 1gb. google chrome
[12:52] <cfhowlett> sydney, 1 gig?  suggest you consider a lightweight buntu: lubuntu or xubuntu
[12:52] <ActionParsnip> Yeah zra looks good for you.  Ram is cheap dude. You'll really see the difference with more
[12:52] <ActionParsnip> *zram
[12:52] <sydney> I am already using a lightweight buntu :P
[12:52] <Mmmm|2> hi
[12:52] <sydney> So i should try zram?
[12:53] <sydney> ActionParsnip: im sure i would :)
[12:53] <sydney> or dont i have enough ram for zram to help?
[12:54] <Mmmm|2> since the last update, using wine is not possible until you do `echo 1 > /proc/sys/abi/ldt16` has root one after startup. Would you know how to launch that cmd automatically after each startup ? (as root)
[12:54] <Mmmm|2> -one
[12:54] <k1l_> sydney: lubuntu uses zram by default
[12:54] <MonkeyDust> Mmmm|2  create a cronjod and use @reboot
[12:54] <MonkeyDust> cronjob*
[12:55]  * Mmmm|2 googles cronjob
[12:55] <sydney> k1l_: Ahh,thats why it seems faster than when i have lxde installed on a unity install :)
[12:55] <MonkeyDust> Mmmm|2  like so:   sudo crontab -e and add: @reboot [your command]
[12:55] <ActionParsnip> Mmmm|2: you can use gnome-schedule as a GUI to crontab
[12:55] <k1l_> for small or old hardware you defintely should lok at lubuntu at all.
[12:56] <Mmmm|2> ActionParsnip: i'm using kde, so no gtk gui for me :x
[12:56] <Mmmm|2> I'll look into that MonkeyDust, thank you
[12:56] <ActionParsnip> Mmmm|2: im sure there I one but learning proper crontabs in cli is great as you can change jobs via ssh :-)
[12:57] <Mmmm|2> :)
[12:57] <sydney> k1l_: I am using enlightment :)
[12:59] <sydney> now rebooting...
[12:59] <MonkeyDust> Mmmm|2  in a terminal, type   crontab -e    then read the basic instructions, no need to bother google
[12:59] <ActionParsnip> I use openbox as standalone. Superlight
[12:59] <Mmmm|2> MonkeyDust: thank you, I'll reboot now to see if that works :
[12:59] <Mmmm|2> :)
[12:59] <MonkeyDust> Mmmm|2  did you use sudo?
[13:00] <Mmmm|2> MonkeyDust: I used the root account directly
[13:00] <Mmmm|2> brb
[13:00] <TJ-> Mmmm|2: Using "sysctl abi.ldt16=1" is better; and you can add that to a file in /etc/sysctl.d/ to have it applied at boot
[13:02] <ActionParsnip> Or in /etc/sysctl.conf
[13:04] <elmaestro> on sys tray it reads "device not managed"
[13:04] <TJ-> ActionParsnip: No, that's not a good place. That means updates to that script require user intervention to check the diff, decide on which version to use - package maintainers or the user's. The purpose of the sysctl.d/ directory is that packages and users can drop in their own requirements, which are read by "run-parts", without changing the configuration shipped in the package, making upgrades reliable
[13:05] <sydney> there :) DO i have to configure it or anything?
[13:07] <sydney> It *seems* faster :)
[13:09] <elmaestro> am sure am not on wifi, its a desktop PC and my only connection is wired
[13:10] <sydney> i should buy some more ram :P
[13:10] <ActionParsnip> sydney: just use the OS I guess. You could reboot for laughs
[13:10] <ActionParsnip> sydney: I would.  1Gb RAM costs peanuts
[13:10] <cfhowlett> sydney, if affordable, max out your ram
[13:11] <sydney> cfhowlett: um,4gb :)
[13:11] <cfhowlett> sydney, 4 > 1
[13:11] <TJ-> elmaestro: If there's an entry in "/etc/network/interfaces" for that network interface, Network Manager will by default not manage that same interface to avoid messing it up
[13:11] <sydney> I can probably go to like 24 if i switch my os to 64 bit :P
[13:12] <elmaestro> yes i have entries in interfaces file, my ip as issued by my provider
[13:12] <TJ-> elmaestro: That is why Network Manager doesn't list the device
[13:13] <elmaestro> TJ,thanks, but it means that those are the addresses my connection is based on?
[13:13] <sydney> But i dont need 24gb :P
[13:14] <TJ-> elmaestro: To check, use "ip address show"
[13:14] <elmaestro> what is ubuntu's equivalent to avafind, or a file search tool?
[13:14] <cfhowlett> elmaestro, whereis
[13:17] <ActionParsnip> sydney: 32bit with PAE can use up to 64Gb RAM. Each process will only get 3.2Gb RAM
[13:17] <elmaestro_> i cannot find whereis in software centre, wat next?
[13:17] <cfhowlett> elmaestro_, it's a terminal command
[13:18] <sydney> ActionParsnip: well, i dont  need that much ram. I will probably upgrade my ram to 4 gb,them install a 33d :)
[13:18] <sydney> ssd*
[13:19] <elmaestro_> is there an app with a GUI?
[13:19] <ActionParsnip> sydney: if you only want a basic system I dont think an SSD will make a huge difference.  The RAM certainly will
[13:19] <sydney> ActionParsnip: whats the max ram a 32buit ubuntu install will recognize? 3.2gb?
[13:19] <sydney> bit*
[13:19] <cfhowlett> sydney, what ActionParsnip said +1
[13:20] <ActionParsnip> sydney: no, the kernel is PAE so will allow up to 64Gb. Each process will only be able to use 3.2Gb though
[13:20] <antheum> HI all. can someone tell me how to access the dvd on ubunto 14.04
[13:20] <ActionParsnip> antheum: access what DVD?
[13:20] <cfhowlett> antheum, access it how?
[13:20] <antheum> the internal DVD
[13:21] <antheum> I mean I have just put a disc in there and I want to access it
[13:21] <ActionParsnip> antheum: what sort of DVD? A movie?
[13:21] <sydney> ActionParsnip: 32 bit recognizes 64 gb? what?
[13:21] <antheum> No its files
[13:21] <sydney> COol  if it does :)
[13:21] <ActionParsnip> antheum: the DVD should automatically mount. Does the drive spin?
[13:21] <antheum> yes and then nothing
[13:22] <antheum> I want to know where the access point is on the os
[13:22] <ActionParsnip> antheum: you can try and mount it manually using terminal
[13:22] <cfhowlett> antheum, /media/
[13:22] <antheum> ok how do I do that
[13:23] <cfhowlett> antheum, for that matter, you can run a terminal, then drag the DVD from the gui and drop it in the terminal for the location
[13:23] <antheum> I am looking for the access point. ie: in windows you can go through computer
[13:23] <sydney> Thanks all!! :D
[13:24] <BuJitsuBrown> can someone plese take a look at this http://paste.ubuntu.com/8007827/ what am i doing wrong?
[13:24] <cfhowlett> !details| antheum,
[13:24] <antheum> ok I just can't find a way to access the DVD player
[13:26] <antheum> Is that not enough iformation
[13:27] <cfhowlett> !dvd | antheum
[13:28] <ActionParsnip> antheum: sudo mkdir /media/dvd; sudo mount /dev/sr0 /media/dvd
[13:28] <antheum> ok its not a DVD as in a movie. I had placed some files on a DVD r before moving to ubuntu. now I want to get access to them. I can't find an entry point to access the disk
[13:30] <juveniledelinque> TJ- hello again, I ran the computer with only one browser tab and the terminal open (and plus the irc now), and it had no freezes, no jams so far
[13:31] <juveniledelinque> and the terminal gives 'still alive' every second
[13:31] <antheum> When I open home  there is nothing there that says internal disc drive
[13:32] <Guest69204> romania?
[13:32] <cfhowlett> antheum, depending on your formatting/creating of the DVD it may not read.  if it spins up and STOPS, it may/may be readable
[13:33] <cfhowlett> !romania | Guest69204
[13:33] <Guest69204> ok
[13:33] <Guest69204> ms
[13:33] <TJ-> juveniledelinque: That's good then, you're making progress in isolating it
[13:33] <antheum> ok but where is the access point anyway
[13:33] <BuJitsuBrown> olvida lo hey never mind guys you helped and didnt even know it (did you even know i was here) the syntax error '(' was sloved when @cfhowlett said  "for that matter, you can run a terminal, then drag the DVD from the gui and drop it in the terminal for the location " Soo thank you guys
[13:34] <Guest69204> team view pt unbutu este?
[13:34] <cfhowlett> BuJitsuBrown, happy2help
[13:34] <BuJitsuBrown> yes thnk you bye for now im sure to be back later;)
[13:35] <antheum> or is that just not a function ubuntu uses
[13:35] <juveniledelinque> TJ- so does it certainly mean that a particular application causes it (and i.e. not a ram error) ?
[13:36] <cfhowlett> antheum, ActionParsnip> antheum: sudo mkdir /media/dvd; sudo mount /dev/sr0 /media/dvd
[13:36] <antheum> cfhowlett: what is that for
[13:37] <TJ-> juveniledelinque: It'll take a while to determine that, maybe there's some web-site page you visit regularly that causes it?
[13:37] <cfhowlett> antheum, the answer to your query bout mounting the DVD
[13:37] <antheum> crhowlett: is the disc drive not automatically mounted
[13:38] <hyde> HI. I used command `xmodmap -e "keycode 66 = Escape NoSymbol Escape"` to turn caps lock into esc. this actually works. However, it is still *also* a caps lock. How can I fix that?
[13:38] <TJ-> antheum: In the GUI file explorers, usually you simply double-click on a DVD name in the devices summary pane to have it mounted and view files
[13:38] <cfhowlett> antheum, if NOT ... use the manual method.  it depends on the DVD - is it recognized, is it readable
[13:39] <antheum> cfhowlett: I guess I am asking  is there a place on the destop or home folder where the disc shows up. like in windows or linux mint
[13:40] <cfhowlett> antheum, I'm on xubuntu --- different arrangement of behavior.  ask the channel in general
[13:40] <antheum> ok where is the channel in question
[13:40] <cfhowlett> antheum, you're in it.
[13:45] <JOY> !
[13:45] <Sacrelicious> hey guys, I'm trying to format some usb key's in startup disk creator but i keep getting strange error messages
[13:45] <bekks> Sacrelicious: Which ones?
[13:45] <Sacrelicious> bekks: kingston data travelers, or are you referring to the error messages? I can pastebin them if you want
[13:46] <cfhowlett> Sacrelicious, no mind readers on duty.  paste the error messages
[13:46] <sydney> :P
[13:47] <Sacrelicious> bekks: pastebin.com/kXZmtvDj
[13:47] <Sacrelicious> cfhowlett: pastebin.com/kXZmtvDj
[13:48] <cfhowlett> Sacrelicious, sorry, but I'm not able to read.  China firewall issues
[13:49] <Sacrelicious> cfhowlett: i can msg them if you want, its about 8 or 9 lines long
[13:49] <kostkon> Sacrelicious, repost on paste.ubuntu.com
[13:49] <Sacrelicious> kostkon: will do
[13:50] <Sacrelicious> kostkon: http://paste.ubuntu.com/8008007/
[13:50] <Sacrelicious> cfhowlett: http://paste.ubuntu.com/8008007/
[13:52] <cfhowlett> Sacrelicious, you're getting that from startupdiskcreator?  Yuck.  install unetbootin and try that instead
[13:52] <Sacrelicious> cfhowlett: yeah i'm using an old version of ubuntu, 13.04, i made the error of not upgrading, i'm a linux newbie
[13:52] <kostkon> Sacrelicious, it seems there are problems with data traveller sticks on linux http://askubuntu.com/questions/102901/get-kingston-datatraveler-locker-working-under-ubuntu-11-10
[13:53] <kostkon> Sacrelicious, they are not usable at all
[13:53] <cfhowlett> !eolupgrade > Sacrelicious,
[13:53] <JOY> guys .... anybody know any java programing channel here??
[13:53] <Sacrelicious> kostkon: it happens with multiple sticks.
[13:53] <cfhowlett> JOY, ##java I think
[13:53] <Sacrelicious> cfhowlett: tried to install from terminal. E: dpkg was interrupted, you must manually run 'sudo dpkg --configure -a' to correct the problem.
[13:53] <Sacrelicious> cfhowlett: unebootin, that is.
[13:54] <Sacrelicious> i will post the error message i get from my other data sticks.
[13:54] <Sacrelicious> this is from one of my lexar ones: http://paste.ubuntu.com/8008043/
[13:55] <[Ex0r]> hmm, im having a problem. I have proftpd installed via sudo apt-get install proftpd, and whenever I try connecting to the FTP server, it sits at getting directory listing, and than times out.
[13:55] <kostkon> Sacrelicious, you could use gparted to delete the partitions on it and format it from there also
[13:56] <Sacrelicious> kostkon: tried it already, i will post the error message, one sec.
[13:56] <awanti> Hi. I am running ubuntu 14.04. I am facing problem in installing canon LBP2900 drivers in it. please help to solve this...
[13:57] <Sacrelicious> kostkon: okay, so I'm in gparted, how do I delete the partitions on the device exactally?
[13:58] <Sacrelicious> kostkon: wait, i got it, k one sec.
[13:58] <kostkon> Sacrelicious, are there any partitions listed
[13:58] <kostkon> Sacrelicious, ok
[13:59] <pr3d> hi, i want to install an older version from a ppa Repository. i have trusty installed. is that possible?
[14:00] <ActionParsnip> JOY: #java
[14:00] <cfhowlett> pr3d, if you can find the ppa version you want, yes
[14:00] <Sacrelicious> kostkon: okay, so in startup disk creator, I got my device selected, its blank, 7.3gb free. I have the ubuntu 14.04 iso selected, but the option to "make startup disk" is still greyed out
[14:01] <pr3d> yeah i have, but i dont know how to select the old version on apt-get
[14:01] <Sacrelicious> is there a way to get a copy of unetbootin that will function on 13.04?
[14:01] <kostkon> pr3d, is it for handbrake?
[14:01] <pr3d> no transmission
[14:02] <patates> anybody using chromium, can you check if you can see the revocation check settings, in settings.. I can't find it :S Did they remove this?
[14:02] <kostkon> Sacrelicious, download the .bin and run it
[14:02] <[Ex0r]> It just gets stuck on PASV message, than fails to get directory
[14:02] <Sacrelicious> kostkon: linux newbie here. how do i do that?
[14:03] <yeats> Sacrelicious: http://unetbootin.sourceforge.net/
[14:03] <ActionParsnip> Sacrelicious: got a system around with a supported OS? Unetnootin runs on mac and windows too
[14:03] <kostkon> Sacrelicious, btw, did you click erase disk in the startup creator, just in case
[14:03] <Sacrelicious> ActionParsnip: nah, this is my only system.
[14:03] <Sacrelicious> kostkon: sure did.
[14:03] <MonkeyDust> Sacrelicious  try this, scroll down, but we cannot give support, as 13.04 is !eol http://pkgs.org/download/unetbootin
[14:04] <Sacrelicious> kostkon: got this error: org.freedesktop.UDisks.Error.Inhibited: Daemon is inhibited
[14:04] <cfhowlett> Sacrelicious, use a different computer
[14:04] <Sacrelicious> cfhowlett: yeah i'm thinking i might just need to get a friend to make a live usb and boot from it tomorrow or something
[14:05] <kostkon> Sacrelicious, might as well read it and give the suggestions a try http://askubuntu.com/a/43985/1651
[14:05] <ActionParsnip> Sacrelicious: bit easier
[14:05] <pr3d> i want to install the v2.77 package from here: https://launchpad.net/~transmissionbt/+archive/ubuntu/ppa/+packages?field.name_filter=&field.status_filter=&field.series_filter=
[14:05] <yeats> Sacrelicious: on that page, click Download (for Linux), right click on the file -> Properties -> Permissions -> click Allow executing file as program - then double click on the icon
[14:07] <Sacrelicious> yeats: k, one sec.
[14:08] <OerHeks> pr3d, on what ubuntu version ?
[14:08] <pr3d> trusty
[14:08] <yeats> pr3d: there's not a trusty version of that deb
[14:08] <kostkon> pr3d, are you trying to downgrade it?
[14:08] <yeats> pr3d: if you explain what you're after, there might be a better way to do what you're trying to do
[14:09] <OerHeks> pr3d, why such old verdion, and it is not availavle, 2.83 and up are
[14:09] <OerHeks> version*
[14:09] <Sacrelicious> yeats: Could not display “unetbootin-linux-608.bin” The file is of an unknown type
[14:09] <pr3d> so its now possible to install an older package, that hasn't been packaged for my version?
[14:09] <MonkeyDust> pr3d  what do you want to achieve, maybe there's an easier way to achive it
[14:09] <yeats> Sacrelicious: did you save the file?
[14:10] <OerHeks> pr3d, no. unless you build it yourseld, which can give troubles with dependencies
[14:10] <Sacrelicious> yeats: yes
[14:10] <pr3d> MonkeyDust: i want to install an older version
[14:10] <MonkeyDust> pr3d  of what, to do what?
[14:11] <yeats> Sacrelicious: use the file manager to navigate the download location (probably ~/Downloads), then follow my above instructions
[14:11] <Sacrelicious> yeats: i did.
[14:11] <Sacrelicious> okay, so i got unetbootin running
[14:12] <yeats> ok
[14:12] <pr3d> i think OerHeks has answered it
[14:12] <Sacrelicious> I get this message when trying to make a live usb from unetbootin: No USB flash drives were found. If you have already inserted a USB drive, try reformatting it as FAT32.
[14:12] <Sacrelicious> but I do have 2 different ones in.
[14:12] <yeats> Sacrelicious: is the USB drive you're trying to write to formated FAT32?
[14:12] <cfhowlett> Sacrelicious, did you format as fat32?
[14:13] <Sacrelicious> unsure... can I do that in Gparted?
[14:13] <yeats> Sacrelicious: yes
[14:13] <yeats> Sacrelicious: be careful to format the right one though ;-)
[14:13] <Sacrelicious> yeats: what is the process?
[14:14] <yeats> Sacrelicious: make sure you have the right drive, then delete whatever partition is on there, then add a FAT32 one (should be pretty intuitive)
[14:14] <Sacrelicious> just create primary partition as fat32?
[14:14] <yeats> Sacrelicious: yep
[14:14] <Sacrelicious> word.
[14:15] <Sacrelicious> still no dice...hrmmm
[14:18] <Sacrelicious> i'm thinking it might be best just to make a clean usb stick on a friends computer
[14:19] <yeats> Sacrelicious: yeah - go for that - the only other thought is that you might try an older release of unetbootin (like http://sourceforge.net/projects/unetbootin/files/UNetbootin/584/)
[14:20] <yeats> possible they've changed some things since make it incompatible with 13.04?
[14:20] <ActionParsnip> Sacrelicious: you do know you can use dd to put the ISO on the USB...
[14:21] <yeats> or that^^ ;-)
[14:22] <Sacrelicious> ActionParsnip: not sure what dd is... explain
[14:23] <kostkon> !dd
[14:23] <kostkon> nope
[14:23] <ActionParsnip> Sacrelicious: use the web to find out.....
[14:23] <ActionParsnip> Sacrelicious: what is the device name of your USB?
[14:24] <Sacrelicious> ActionParsnip: kingston data traveler, and a lexar, no idea what the device name of the lexar is though
[14:24] <ActionParsnip> Sacrelicious: no. The device name in your OS. The make and model is of zero consequence
[14:24] <Sacrelicious> sdb
[14:25] <ActionParsnip> Sacrelicious: perfect.
[14:25] <ActionParsnip> Sacrelicious: and what is the name and location of your ISO?
[14:25] <ActionParsnip> Sacrelicious: case sensitive of course
[14:26] <Sacrelicious> ActionParsnip: /home/paul/Downloads/ubuntu-14.04.1-desktop-amd64.iso
[14:27] <ActionParsnip> Sacrelicious: then with all partitions on sdb unmounted, run:
[14:27] <ActionParsnip> Sacrelicious: sudo dd if=~/Downloads/ubuntu-14.04.1-desktop-amd64.iso of=/dev/sdb
[14:28] <ActionParsnip> Sacrelicious: I assume you have MD5 tested the ISO and that the data on the USB stick is not needed
[14:28] <MonkeyDust> I havent followed, what's Sacrelicious problem?
[14:28] <Sacrelicious> ActionParsnip: its not needed, as for md5, no idea what that means, but I got it from the ubuntu website, I'm assuming its fine.
[14:29] <ActionParsnip> MonkeyDust: old ubuntu and want iso on usb
[14:29] <ActionParsnip> Sacrelicious: it may have errors
[14:29] <Sacrelicious> ActionParsnip: worst case scenario, as I said, I'll just make a live usb at a friends place tomorrow, I just got stuff I need to get done on here today -_-"
[14:29] <ActionParsnip> Sacrelicious: source is moot. You can get the file from the dodgiest server you can find, as long as the MD5 hash matches it is complete and consistant
[14:30] <Sacrelicious> ActionParsnip: whats the process to test?
[14:30] <Sacrelicious> ActionParsnip: 2009088+0 records in 2009088+0 records out 1028653056 bytes (1.0 GB) copied, 9.04595 s, 114 MB/s
[14:30] <Sacrelicious> ActionParsnip: good to go?
[14:30] <ActionParsnip> Sacrelicious: you are pulling the data over the most unreluable network, The Internet. TCP does an Ok job of error checking but it isn't perfect
[14:31] <ActionParsnip> Sacrelicious: if the job has finished, run: sudo eject /dev/sdb , then reboot
[14:32] <Sacrelicious> ActionParsnip: will do, and thank you so much for this. if this works, I'll be back here in a half hour or so to thank you again. I really, really appreciate the help, I got onto the linux kool aid a little over a year ago but I've been so busy with work I have not had enough time to learn it properly
[14:32] <Sacrelicious> again, very, very much appreciated.
[14:32] <ActionParsnip> Np, easy stuff
[14:45] <chriys> when I try to change my system hostname I keep getting this error sudo: unable to resolve host myhostname
[14:46] <bazhang> !hostname | chriys
[14:46] <chriys> ok let me try that
[14:48] <antheum> Hi using 14.04. When I time in terninal 'cd /' it doesn't navigate into root directory
[14:48] <ActionParsnip> chriys: you need to edit /etc/hosts
[14:49] <ActionParsnip> antheum: what does: pwd , output afy
[14:49] <chriys> that's what I did
[14:49] <ActionParsnip> After you ran: cd /
[14:49] <chriys> let me retry
[14:49] <antheum> pwd
[14:49] <antheum> /home/antheum
[14:49] <ActionParsnip> chriys: you need to edit both that file and /etc/hostname
[14:49] <sudheer> Hello - Sorry for the long question... but recently I have installed Intel Graphics driver for ubuntu 14.04 and it screwed hole thing
[14:49] <chriys> oh ok let me do that
[14:50] <antheum> after cd / it show /
[14:50] <sudheer> now i ma getting few errors while rebooting hence can someone tell me what to do to fix this problem..?
[14:51] <sudheer> error code is drm: model has bad taint
[14:52] <antheum> ActionParsnip: after 'cd /' pwd shows '/'
[14:53] <[Ex0r]> grrr, what the heck
[14:54] <[Ex0r]> When you install MySQL, does it default to only listen on local ports? I can access it just fine locally, but if I access it remotely it says it can't be reached
[14:54] <bekks> [Ex0r]: Yes, by default, it listen to local connections only.
[14:55] <[Ex0r]> how can I change it?
[14:55] <[Ex0r]> I went in via phpmyadmin and made a new user that accepts connections remotely, but the server itself seems to be blocking remote access
[14:55] <OerHeks> [Ex0r], sounds like a router port-forwarding issue
[14:56] <[Ex0r]> It's not that, at all, as I am not even connected via a router.
[14:56] <OerHeks> then maybe your provider does not allow to run a service, ports <1024 closed
[14:57] <Guest50405> ciao
[14:57] <[Ex0r]> No, because it works on other servers
[14:57] <Guest50405> !list
[14:57] <[Ex0r]> It's only this specific server it wont connect to
[14:57] <WebWalker> test
[14:57] <[Ex0r]> Is there something in the mysql config that tells it to only listen locally
[14:57] <[Ex0r]> ?
[14:58] <OerHeks> [Ex0r], no, normally it should work ootb.
[14:58] <[Ex0r]> well for some reason it's not.
[14:59] <[Ex0r]> And it's only on this server, and i've reinstalled ubuntu four times, using 3 different releases
[14:59] <chriys> ActionParsnip: seems that it work but this is still showing up myusername@myoldhostname
[14:59] <[Ex0r]> thats the error im getting
[14:59] <antheum> ActionParsnip: ah / is the root directory. noob :-)
[15:00] <antheum> ActionParsnip: ah / is the root directory. noob :-)
[15:00] <cfhowlett> !test | WebWalker,
[15:01] <nael> some body can help me? :x
[15:02] <ActionParsnip1> Nael: do what?
[15:02] <nael> my mouse doesnt work
[15:02] <nael> he never click in programs
[15:02] <ActionParsnip1> Nael: is it a bluetooth mouse, a usb mouse...details
[15:02] <nael> notebook
[15:02] <nael> mouse pad
[15:03] <ActionParsnip1> Nael: what make and model?
[15:03] <nael> dell
[15:03] <ActionParsnip1> Nael: model?
[15:03] <nael> 14r
[15:03] <ActionParsnip1> Nael: see how im having to milk individual bits of info from you. Can you please give more details about the setup. Its getting incredibly tedious
[15:04] <chriys> thx for your help guys issue fixed
[15:04] <nael> i using vim comand in chrome for navegate..
[15:04] <draxxy> Hey everybody, just wondering if you'd be able to help me with something.
[15:04] <ActionParsnip1> chriys: no worries
[15:04] <chriys> but here is another one: Phpmyadmin loads only halfway when I try connect to mysql
[15:04] <ActionParsnip1> Nael: what is the output of: cat /etc/issue
[15:04] <chriys> in local I con connect using mysql -u username -p
[15:05] <nael> i dont know, how a check this?
[15:05] <draxxy> Hey there, when I first log on to Ubuntu I am able to use the internet for a couple of seconds and then it disconnects, could anybody help with this?
[15:05] <ActionParsnip1> Nael: its a terminal command
[15:05] <kostkon> nael, ALT+F2 to open a terminal
[15:06] <Michaela22>  You can find funny videos here. http://j.mp/1sqYQh3
[15:06] <nael> and after this?
[15:06] <ActionParsnip1> Nael: what does the output say?
[15:06] <cfhowlett> Michaela22  no spam
[15:06] <cfhowlett> and no porn
[15:06] <nael> i use guake..
[15:06] <kostkon> nael, same difference
[15:07] <ActionParsnip1> Nael: it doesnt matter if you use guake, run the command in guake. What is the output?
[15:07] <nael> nael@nael:~Downloads/Cursos$
[15:08] <ActionParsnip1> Nael: run: cat /etc/issue , what is the output?
[15:08] <nael> haa
[15:08] <nael> ok
[15:08] <nael> sorry
[15:08] <nael> kkk
[15:08] <ActionParsnip1> Nael: its a simple concept
[15:08] <draxxy> ActionParsnip1, would you be able to help me quickly?
[15:08] <ActionParsnip1> Nael: id have thoight a vim user would know basic stuff like this.....
[15:09] <ActionParsnip1> draxxy: ask and he channel will answer if it can
[15:09] <draxxy> when I first log on to Ubuntu I am able to use the internet for a couple of seconds and then it disconnects, could anybody help with this?
[15:09] <nael> say (file or directory not find)
[15:09] <ActionParsnip1> draxxy: wired or wireless?
[15:09] <draxxy> Wired
[15:09] <nael> put sudo before?
[15:09] <[Ex0r]> grr, this is pissing me off.. the entire server is jacked up
[15:10] <ActionParsnip1> nael: did you not add the words "run:" and did you put a space after the word "cat"
[15:10] <nael> not
[15:10] <ActionParsnip1> nael: sudo isn't needed
[15:10] <nael> will put now
[15:10] <cfhowlett> [Ex0r], #ubuntu-server        might know more ...
[15:10] <MonkeyDust> nael  run this command:     cat /etc/issue
[15:10] <ActionParsnip1> nael: copy and paste the commamd! Why do you think I give the exact command!?
[15:11] <nael> i cant se the comand all, i cant up the screen
[15:11] <sudormrf> Hi guys, my nagios instance is not sending emails anymore.  nothing has changed with regards to the nagios configs or the postfix configs.  I am able to send test messages from the box with postfix.  Could someone help me figure out what is going on?
[15:11] <draxxy> cat /etc/issue
[15:11] <nael> say comand not found
[15:11] <ActionParsnip1> nael: cat /etc/issue
[15:11] <MonkeyDust> nael  what screen?
[15:12] <ActionParsnip1> nael: lsb_release -cn
[15:12] <ActionParsnip1> nael: there is a space between lsb_release and the -cn bit
[15:12] <eeee_> ActionParsnip1: -cn ? what's n?
[15:12] <ActionParsnip1> eeee_: man lsb_release ;)
[15:13] <MonkeyDust> all that, just to get the user's ubuntu version :)
[15:13] <nael> error: no such option-n
[15:13] <yeats> sudormrf: try #nagios
[15:13] <nael> i put -cn in the end..
[15:13] <eeee_> ^^
[15:13] <MonkeyDust> nael  run this command:     cat /etc/issue
[15:14] <eeee_> nael: ActionParsnip1: isn't it lsb_release -a ?
[15:14] <ActionParsnip1> nael: lsb_release -c
[15:14] <nael> haa
[15:14] <nael> ubuntu 14.04.1 lts \n \z
[15:14] <sudormrf> yeats, #nagios is almost always dead
[15:14] <ActionParsnip1> eeee_: -a is a bit too much, trying to get a single line
[15:14] <ActionParsnip1> nael: finally!
[15:15] <nael> and lsb.. > codename: trusty
[15:15] <sudormrf> yeats, I have joined that channel and asked for help though
[15:15] <nael> sorry, i am newbie..
[15:15] <ActionParsnip1> Nael: at copying and pasting text? Seriously?
[15:15] <ActionParsnip1> nael: you have never copied and pasted text?
[15:16]  * cfhowlett thinks that's physically and cosmically impossible
[15:16] <yeats> sudormrf: aside from that pointer, I would check your postfix logs and syslogs for clues
[15:16] <nael> i dont, cant use mouse and dont know how with de keybord
[15:16] <cfhowlett> nael, uh uh. how are you chatting right now?
[15:16] <ActionParsnip1> nael: ok run: sudo modprobe -r psmouse; sleep 2; sudo modprobe psmouse
[15:17] <nael> some body :D
[15:17] <cfhowlett> nael,  beginning to look and sound like you're here to play games and waste time ...
[15:17] <antheum> If 'cd ~/desktop' take mes to desktop directory. why doest't 'cd ~/documents' take me to document
[15:18] <eeee_> antheum: maybe you need to capitalize documents, e.g. ~/Documents
[15:18] <nael> error: missing parameters. see-h
[15:18] <draxxy> antheum: are you doing cd ~/documents or cd ~/Documents
[15:18] <nael> in the 2 steep
[15:18] <MonkeyDust> nael  are you physically restricted?
[15:19] <draxxy> MonkeyDust: :P
[15:19] <ActionParsnip1> !info gpointing-device-settings
[15:19] <nael> i dont know what this mean
[15:19] <nael> :s
[15:19] <MonkeyDust> draxxy  that's a serious question, we can't know that
[15:20] <ActionParsnip1> nael: is the system fully updated?
[15:20] <sudormrf> yeats, yeah, that is what I have been doing.  Syslog does show the simulated error, postfix doesn't show that anything is being sent (no error messages, nothing)
[15:20] <nael> yes
[15:20] <sudormrf> yeats, when I sent the test messages via CLI the postfix logs lit up
[15:20] <nael> every day have updates for this system..
[15:20] <ActionParsnip1> nael: basically you are usimg the modprobe command to unload then reload the psmouse module
[15:20] <yeats> sudormrf: and you've restarted the nagios daemon?
[15:20] <nael> i ever made..
[15:21] <ActionParsnip1> nael: sudo modprobe -r psmouse
[15:21] <ActionParsnip1> nael: spaces between every word (you seem to struggle with spaces)
[15:21] <nael> is because this that my mouse stop move?
[15:22] <ActionParsnip1> nael: is what becuas3 the mouse isnt moving?
[15:22] <eeee_> the updates he kept installing
[15:22] <eeee_> nael: no
[15:22] <nael> because i doing this that you say..
[15:22] <eeee_> (i think that's what he said)
[15:22] <ActionParsnip1> nael: run the command I gave please, you should get no output
[15:23] <nael> he not click, but now he dont  moving..
[15:23] <nael> he have not output
[15:23] <ActionParsnip1> nael: did you run the command I gave or not?
[15:23] <nael> yes
[15:23] <eeee_> nael: run the second command he gave you too
[15:23] <antheum> draxxy: Will not attempt to process directory /home/antheum/Documents
[15:23] <nael> nael...$ sudo modprobe -r psmouse
[15:23] <ActionParsnip1> Nael: ok now press your up cursor and delete the "-r" bit
[15:23] <ActionParsnip1> nael: and hit enter
[15:24] <nael> nael...$ sudo modprobe psmouse
[15:24] <draxxy> antheum: try running 'cd ~' and then running 'ls'
[15:24] <antoineconde> exit
[15:24] <nael> and he show me nael...$
[15:24] <ActionParsnip1> nael: no output again?
[15:24] <nael> yes
[15:24] <ActionParsnip1> nael: great, try the touchpad
[15:24] <nael> is moving
[15:25] <ActionParsnip1> Magic
[15:25] <nael> but not click
[15:25] <antheum> draxy: ok works now. what was the reason. is it because I was in another directory already
[15:25] <ActionParsnip1> nael: in any application?
[15:25] <nael> the programs are unclick
[15:25] <nael> yes
[15:25] <draxxy> antheum: yes.
[15:25] <antheum> ok makes sense
[15:25] <nael> just work in the ubuntu bar..
[15:25] <kostkon> nael, try tapping it twice on something, e.g. a link and see if that will produce a 'click'
[15:26] <w0rldmaker> hey guys. im running a release upgrade on my server. it apperas to have stopped while 'preparing to unpack redis-server' last night
[15:26] <nael> doesnt work
[15:26] <w0rldmaker> should i ctrl-c the process?
[15:26] <nael> is like not click
[15:27] <nael> i just can use key board in programs..
[15:27] <ActionParsnip1> nael: try Fn+F3
[15:27] <nael> i try.
[15:27] <nael> mouse pad is on
[15:27] <nael> this get off he, and he stop moving
[15:28] <nael> i have a usb mouse and he do the same thing...
[15:30] <nael> mouse works in ubuntu things, but not in programs..
[15:32] <anaerobic> hello! I have a new system installed, the 14.10.1. the keyrings are shown with their earlier names that I long changed. how can I make them appear with their current names?
[15:32] <anaerobic> sorry, 14.04.1. of course
[15:36] <nael> action?
[15:37] <nael> tanks guy
[15:37] <nael> bye
[15:46] <sudormrf> yeats, sorry was working on something.  yes both nagios and postfix have been restarted
[15:46] <antheum> in order to use the cp command, do I also need to be in that particular directory?
[15:47] <ActionParsnip1> antheum: you can specify absolute paths for both source and destination
[15:48] <antheum> ActioParsnip: what does that mean?
[15:48] <draxxy> Could somebody help me? I am connected to wi-fi, TeamViewer connects, but I cannot browse the internet or download through wget.
[15:49] <MonkeyDust> antheum  if you are not in the folder you want, you must specify it with the cp command
[15:49] <antheum> MonkeyDust: Can you give an example
[15:49] <kostkon> antheum, cp <source> <dest>, usually
[15:50] <antheum> MonkeyDust: am I too young to be attempting this
[15:50] <draxxy> antheum: cp ~/Documents/file.zip ~/Desktop/
[15:50] <antheum> draxy: Thank you
[15:50] <MonkeyDust> antheum  cp /home/yourname/Documents/somefile /home/yourname/Videos/somefile
[15:51] <draxxy> Better example ^
[15:51] <antheum> MonkeyDust: Thank you. I shall fiddle with that line
[15:52] <gospod> hello, anyone here?
[15:53] <priuon> hello. I am using Linux xubuntu for quite a while now and have't found the time to make the touchpad of the asus notebook it is installed on work. I hoped it would be fine with a new version of xubuntu but 14.04 didn't install the touchpad either. xinput list does not show the touchpad. I can't find it in lshw lspci or lsusb either. Where should the device be visible?
[15:53] <draxxy> priuon: are there any drivers required for the mousepad?
[15:54] <rsa4096> Hi is there anyone who can help me in revising the English text?
[15:55] <AlexPortable> which english text?
[15:55] <frib> im trying to get bluetooth to work on an hp envy 15 j063cl -- in ubuntu 12 it works, but in ubuntu 14 it doesn't -- been trying to figure this out for a while and can't get it to work.  any help appreciated
[15:55] <antheum> ok so 'cp' tells the computer what you want to do. '/home/yourname/Documents/somefile' is where you are copying the file from. '/home/yourname/Videos/somefile' is where you want the file copied to? is this right
[15:55] <priuon> draxxy: Microsoft Windows 7 required drivers when I installed it last year. Asus provided drivers from different brands (manufacturer?).
[15:56] <rsa4096> AlexPortable, my linkedin profile description, I do not speak English
[15:56] <AlexPortable> rsa4096: how is this related to ubuntu?
[15:56] <draxxy> priuon: try ALT+F3 and check for results.
[15:56] <rsa4096> AlexPortable, no
[15:56] <AlexPortable> antheum: cp origin destination
[15:56] <AlexPortable> rsa4096: #ubuntu-offtopic
[15:56] <rsa4096> thanks
[15:57] <priuon> draxxy: alt f3 opens the application finder.
[15:58] <draxxy> priuon: what Ubuntu are you running?
[15:58] <antheum> AlexPortable: ok good. now if I am already in a directory and want to copy to the same directory. can I simply just cp filename new name
[15:58] <priuon> draxxy: xubuntu 14.04
[15:58] <AlexPortable> antheum: yes
[15:59] <draxxy> priuon: okay, are you talking from the laptop
[15:59] <jeunes> hello
[15:59] <AlexPortable> so if you are in /home/antheum/Documents/files/ and you want to make a copy of file.odf, you write: cp file.odf backup_file.odf
[15:59] <AlexPortable> or similar
[15:59] <priuon> draxxy: no
[16:00] <draxxy> priuon: and the laptop has access to the internet?
[16:00] <Mrokii> Hello. What dead simple way is there to record a video of yourself via webcam on Ubuntu 14.04 (including sound)? I tried cheese (which doesn't record sound, just video for some reason) and VLC (which displays a video when I use "play" mode but crashes everytime I try to record/stream it to a file.
[16:00] <priuon> draxxy: it has
[16:01] <antheum> AlexPortable: I need to physically type backup file
[16:01] <draxxy> priuon: okay, find your laptop drivers online and then use the 'wget' line in the Terminal to download the file.
[16:02] <draxxy> priuon: then use 'ls' in the download file and run the correct file.
[16:02] <draxxy> priuon: make sure to download Linux, though.
[16:02] <ActionParsnip1> Mrokii: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1076725
[16:02] <anaerobic> hello! I have a new system installed, the 14.04. the keyrings are shown with their earlier names that I long changed. how can I make them appear with their current names?
[16:02] <AlexPortable> antheum: what do you mean?
[16:02] <AlexPortable> antheum: the backup_ was only an example
[16:06] <priuon> draxxy: Asus does not offer any linux drivers on their support page. What else can I do?
[16:06] <antheum> AlexPortable: was you calling the file 'backup file.odf'
[16:06] <chriys> Hey guys got a big issue here. nothing can connect to mysql since I configure iptables
[16:06] <chriys> I can connect locally using mysql -u root -p
[16:07] <AlexPortable> antheum: what would you name it then?
[16:07] <bekks> chriys: So allow mysql connections to the mysql port you use.
[16:07] <chriys>  but any app inside the vps can't connect.
[16:07] <AlexPortable> antheum: cp file1.odf file2.odf
[16:07] <chriys> I did that
[16:07] <bekks> chriys: If you did it would be working.
[16:08] <bekks> chriys: Whats the port you are using for mysql, and which rule did you setup?
[16:08] <chriys> bekks: this what iptables -L -v returns http://pastebin.com/z3pVz5N3
[16:10] <antheum> AlexPortable: I would probably call it 'backup file.odf. It was the context I not sure of. I am 9 and aspie. My fault not yours. Thank you very much
[16:11] <bekks> chriys: http://www.cyberciti.biz/tips/linux-iptables-18-allow-mysql-server-incoming-request.html
[16:12] <chriys> bekks: I actually did that
[16:13] <chriys> let me reinitialize iptables
[16:13] <bekks> chriys: Does "ping vietransformee.org" work for you?
[16:13] <chriys> yep I can access the website of that hostname
[16:14] <bekks> chriys: And mysql is listening on that IP?
[16:15] <antheum> AlexPortable: it doest work. it says 'cp: target ‘two.odf’ is not a directory'.  two.odf is the file I am trying to copy
[16:16] <AlexPortable> why did you write target?
[16:16] <chriys> it just when down
[16:16] <antheum> AlexPortable: antheum@antheum-HP-ProBook-640-G1:~/Documents/Rem$ cp two.odf backup two.odf
[16:17] <antheum> AlexPortable: Rem is the folder the file is in
[16:17] <AlexPortable> you need to include the target in " if it has spaces
[16:17] <AlexPortable> so: cp two.odf "backup two.odf"
[16:18] <antheum> AlexPortable: ok I shall try
[16:19] <antheum> AlexPortable: Yay. So much fun :-)
[16:19] <fantasma_> hi
[16:19] <AlexPortable> whats aspie?
[16:20] <priuon> the synaptics site doesn't seem to offer a driver either. Something about a Synaptics Gesture Suite for Linux but no files linked.
[16:21] <antheum> AlexPortable: Aspie is Aspergers. Just means I have to work a little but harder to understand
[16:21] <fantasma_> hola amigos como entro a una sala en español
[16:21] <bekks> !es | fantasma_
[16:21] <antheum> AlexPortable: I take everything literally
[16:22] <fantasma_> ok gracias
[16:25] <priuon> i would think the ubuntu synaptics drivers would cover my device. Could the issue not be at some other point?
[16:26] <AlexPortable> ah
[16:27] <echo501>  Hello
[16:28] <echo501> I have a Ubuntu system that has a bad journal after a power cycle.
[16:28] <echo501> I'm getting the error "Target filesystem doesn't have /sbin/init"
[16:29] <echo501> I've access the server via a Ubuntu rescue disk
[16:29] <echo501> and am trying to run "debugfs -w /dev/sda1" to clear the jornal
[16:29] <echo501> but I'm getting debugfs not found.  Help?
[16:30] <compdoc> echo501, sounds like a bad idea
[16:31] <antheum> AlexPortable: If I want to move a file from a directory, the directory I am in, to for instance desktop. How would that work?
[16:33] <compdoc> debugfs is included with 12.04 and 14.04. At least on my systems
[16:34] <antheum> AlexPortable:This is the line I tried  antheum@antheum-HP-ProBook-640-G1:~/Documents/Rem$ cp "cmd line.odt" /home/desktop/ "reall cmd line.odt
[16:35] <someone-noone> Hello! What can you recommend as SMTP server? POP3 and IMAP are not necessary as it will be used only for sending mails.
[16:35] <anaerobic> hello! I have a new system installed, the 14.04. the keyrings are shown with their earlier names that I long changed. how can I make them appear with their current names?
[16:36] <anaerobic> also, could you maybe help me know of a tool to strip uploads (like pdfs) off of their metadata?
[16:37] <AlexPortable> antheum: cp fileyouwanttomove.odt ~/Desktop/
[16:38] <jonny3010> when i run this init script i get this error               root@Nano:/etc/init.d# ./utserver         : invalid option
[16:38] <AlexPortable> then fix the script?
[16:38] <jonny3010> I should work as its used all over th internet
[16:38] <jonny3010> lol
[16:38] <antheum> AlexPortable: so there is no requirement for /Home/
[16:38] <AlexPortable> there is
[16:39] <AlexPortable> ~ replaces /home/username/
[16:39] <jonny3010> http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=ete8KP9Z
[16:39] <antheum> AlexPortable: ok
[16:40] <anaerobic> everyone is at sunday mass? :)
[16:45] <antheum> AlexPortable: ok I am working out that people write exactly what the mean in here. There is nothing to be misinterpreted
[16:46] <antheum> AlexPortable: ok I am working out that people write exactly what the mean in here. There is nothing to be misinterpreted. Thank you Portable Alex
[16:46] <TJ-> antheum: Most people do; although some expect you to be able to read their minds and leave out vital parts :)
[16:53] <chriys> bekks: Issue seems to be getting worst
[16:53] <chriys> is there something wrong with my hosts file http://pastebin.com/5FdxErmu   ?
[16:53] <cyclist_2> Hi, there! I had to press the reset button on my laptop and the icon on the tray that allowed me to switch users, restart and shutdown cleanly has vanished; is there a way to bring it back without a restart?
[16:54] <cyclist_2> I tried adding it again to the pannel, but it was not there [there're only apps to switch users and to shutdown, but not one to restart...]
[16:54] <cyclist_2> I need it because of another software problem which prevents me from using the keyboard, sometimes
[16:55] <MonkeyDust> that's the second user today who is unable to use the keyboard
[16:58] <felipefg> Hey guys
[16:58] <eeee_> hey
[16:58] <felipefg> I have an Trusty domU which is freezing taking up 100% CPU on boot, and I can't even figure out why. Any advices?
[16:59] <absk007> Which Additional Driver to use? http://i.imgur.com/EzG1vnA.png
[16:59] <yeats> !bootchart | felipefg
[17:00] <absk007> felipe_, what's your PC specs?
[17:00] <yeats> felipefg: obviously, you have to be able to boot for that
[17:00] <felipefg> indeed
[17:00] <TJ-> felipe_: freezing (implies interrupt routine issue) or just spinning (endlessly doing something intensive) ?
[17:00] <felipefg> well it's a Xen guest VM
[17:00] <felipefg> I can always mount the filesystem from the host and run apt-get to install it
[17:01] <TJ-> felipe_: Does it still spin if you interrupt the DomU's boot by having it use a different init system, e.g. add "init=/bin/bash" to the kernel command-line?
[17:01] <OerHeks> absk007, the ones in use seems oke
[17:01] <felipefg> TJ-: seems to be spinning endlessly
[17:01] <absk007> OerHeks, ok.
[17:02] <felipefg> TJ-: well, no. I tried removing the fstab, for example, and it falls into a shell with the root filesystem mounted ro
[17:02] <felipefg> let me try the init=/bin/bash
[17:03] <TJ-> felipefg: It didn't spin in the initrd shell I assume?
[17:03] <echo501>  Hi -  Other than "sounding like a bad idea"....   Any other suggestions??  I get "/dev/md1 on root failed: Invalid argument"  Server fails to boot after GRUB menu
[17:03] <Raymond> I know stupid question, but I am no master in ubuntu. Does C/C++ programms run on ubuntu?
[17:03] <eeee_> Raymond: yes.
[17:04] <felipefg> it does, it even enters upstart and run several scripts
[17:04] <felipefg> it freezes after "stopping flush early jobs output to logs "
[17:04] <Raymond> thank you :)
[17:04] <felipefg> at least thats what apperas last
[17:04] <felipefg> however, as scripts are run in parallel, I never know what ran last
[17:05] <eeee_> Raymond: np
[17:05] <felipefg> btw, this is a HVM machine, which I'm accessing via VNC. However I had about the same simptoms booting it  as PV
[17:06] <Rohan_m> my touchpad works on its own i mean it goes crazy on its own i'm using ubuntu 14.04
[17:07] <antheum> TJ: thats the story of my life
[17:08] <BirdOwl> How do I verify my username again, its been a while and I have forgotten?
[17:08] <TJ-> felipe_: any clues if you enable maximum kernel debug logs on its command line with "debug" (and removing any "quiet splash" entries) ? You could also add "single" to boot to runlevel 1 single-user mode to see if that makes a difference
[17:09] <antheum> Is it possible to move a file from one directory to another without copying it
[17:09] <BirdOwl> Is it /msn or something like that?
[17:10] <hyde> Raymond: though, if you want a more pedantic answer: C/C++ are compiled languages. C/C++ doesn't really run anywhere. It is compiled to a binary executable.  But yes, there are C and C++ compilers which can produce binary which runs on Ubuntu ;)
[17:10] <wligtenberg> antheum, yes, with the mv command
[17:10] <SchrodingersScat> BirdOwl: I think you mean /msg nickserv followed by the command, you can also /query nickserv and get a window just for it, which can save you from muli-line disasters
[17:12] <k1l> !identify | BirdOwl
[17:12] <felipefg> not that I can see.. kernel messages cease before it freezes. I'm browsing /var/log/dmesg but they seem to be from an old boot, back on july when the machine worked fine
[17:14] <TJ-> felipe_: Not for a separate /var/ that's out of space?
[17:14] <cutter> hi, I've been trying out several flavors of ubuntu just to get lmms working, but it's totally broken. Is there some other alternative I can  use to create music in linux just as easy? Omg remove the package, it's broken! :)
[17:14] <TJ-> felipe_: s/for/got/
[17:14] <BirdOwl> SchrodingersScat, k1l: Ah thanks, wish I could set Xchat to automatically do that, can it?
[17:14] <k1l> BirdOwl: set freenode pw as the server pw in the settings
[17:14] <felipefg> nop, only one root filesystem, with 16G free
[17:16] <antheum> wligtenberg: that worked pretty well. Thank you :-)
[17:16] <felipefg> any way to force upstart to run serially, so at least I can see which script runs before it freezes?
[17:16] <TJ-> felipe_: OK... well my first act would be the "/init/bash" test to find out if the cause is due to init scripts or not. If it is, I'd selectively disable init scripts and/or enable verbose Upstart logging
[17:16] <wligtenberg> antheum: you are most welcome :)
[17:17] <TJ-> felipefg: I wish there were! :)
[17:17] <felipefg> aww
[17:17] <eeee_> BirdOwl: global menu > xchat > network list > edit > nickserv password
[17:17] <SchrodingersScat> BirdOwl: https://freenode.net/sasl/sasl-xchat.shtml there is also sasl
[17:17] <felipefg> TJ-: the init bash mode works fine, Im on it right now, browsing the filesystem
[17:18] <antheum> ok how about deleted a file from a directory.
[17:18] <antheum> ok got it 'rm'
[17:19] <BirdOwl> eeee_, Thanks'
[17:19] <BirdOwl> SchrodingersScat, Thanks as well
[17:19] <TJ-> felipe_: OK, so it is an upstart job then
[17:19] <jhutchins> antheum: http://tldp.org/HOWTO/DOS-Win-to-Linux-HOWTO.html http://www.linuxcommand.org/ https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BasicCommands http://www.macdevcenter.com/pub/a/mac/2005/05/20/terminal1.html http://www.ischool.berkeley.edu/~kevin/unix-tutorial/toc.html  http://linuxcommand.org/lc3_learning_the_shell.php  http://linuxcommand.org/tlcl.php
[17:20] <felipefg> BTW, the Xen HOST keeps logging "xen:balloon: reserve_additional_memory: add_memory() failed: -17" to the dmesg... however even with the VM running there should be over 8GB unallocated ram
[17:20] <SchrodingersScat> antheum: and once it's gone, it's gone, that does NOT go to a trash
[17:21] <felipefg> and there are two other trusty VMs running just fine
[17:21] <TJ-> felipefg: : That could do it... does that happen when the DomU is booted with "init=/bin/bash" ?
[17:22] <felipefg> hmm I didn't notice the times
[17:22] <felipefg> let me try again and see if it does
[17:23] <felipefg> TJ-: its logging even when the problematic VM is off
[17:23] <jdwwatts> anyway to get windoze office suite on here??
[17:23] <felipefg> (i've just destroyed it)
[17:24] <bazhang> !appdb | jdwwatts
[17:24] <TJ-> felipefg: Hmmm, possibly unrelated then?
[17:24] <felipefg> probably :-(
[17:25] <SchrodingersScat> !info libreoffice | jdwwatts
[17:25] <TJ-> felipefg: Looks like you need http://upstart.ubuntu.com/cookbook/#debugging
[17:25] <felipefg> hmm didnt try the --debug yet
[17:25] <jdwwatts> ok
[17:26] <felipefg> TJ-: I gotta leave for several minutes, but I'll be right back an try it
[17:26] <felipefg> TJ-: Thanks a lot for the attention!!
[17:27] <jdwwatts> I think I have  wine installed but myself i like libra my syster uses windows
[17:28] <sudormrf> Hey guys.  While I have made a bit of progress with this nagios thing, if someone could help me figure out why it is not sending automated emails I would appreciate it :).
[17:29] <sharpshooter> Hi, friends I'm using ubuntu 13.10 and I need to downgrade php version to 5.3 how to setup this ?
[17:30] <MonkeyDust> sharpshooter  13.10 is !eol, it works, but you can't upgrade anything -- change to a supported ubuntu release, then ask again
[17:30] <TrevorLaneRay> Hmm... Lemme do some googling... will brb.
[17:31] <TrevorLaneRay> What php version do you have, sharpshooter?
[17:31] <sharpshooter>  TrevorLaneRay : PHP 5.5.3-1ubuntu2.2 (cli) (built: Feb 28 2014 20:03:35)
[17:32] <TrevorLaneRay> Hmmm... Take a look here... http://askubuntu.com/a/220086
[17:32] <sharpshooter> TrevorLaneRay, ok
[17:34] <sharpshooter> TrevorLaneRay, I purged php5, the second command is not working for installation | Reading state information... Done
[17:34] <sharpshooter> E: Version '5.3.10-1ubuntu3.4' for 'php5' was not found
[17:34] <sharpshooter> E: Version '5.3.10-1ubuntu3.4' for 'php5-cli' was not found
[17:34] <sharpshooter> E: Version '5.3.10-1ubuntu3.4' for 'php5-common' was not found
[17:34] <sharpshooter> E: Version '5.3.10-1ubuntu3.4' for 'libapache2-mod-php5' was not found
[17:34] <eeee_> !pastebinit | sharpshooter
[17:36] <sharpshooter> TrevorLaneRay, http://paste.ubuntu.com/8009609/
[17:36] <Morkeleb> I need some xvidia help with dual screens here, if anyone knows about it. I've got an external monitor, 1600x1200 connected, but System Settings -> Displays only gives 800 and 1024 as options. xrandr lists 1024 as the highest for the VGA-1 monitor.
[17:36] <sharpshooter> TrevorLaneRay, please have a look at this, this is error when I try to install php5.3
[17:36] <Morkeleb> This is an eternal problem in linux, it seems, but I was really hoping 14.04 had made it a bit better.
[17:37] <jaapio> hi, how do I reset the color profiles of my user account? Some jpg images are displayed incorrect. But In an other user account everythings seems to be ok
[17:38] <bekks> Morkeleb: Did you install the nvidia drivers correctly?
[17:38] <jhutchins> Morkeleb: You say that like it's not a problem in other operating systems as well.
[17:39] <Morkeleb> bekks: Well, I've had no problems in Win7 with this computer.
[17:39] <Morkeleb> I know that linux and nvidia don't like each other, of course.
[17:40] <bekks> Morkeleb: That doesnt answer my question, since Windows is irrelevant for linux drivers.
[17:40] <Morkeleb> bekks: Sorry - I didn't see the first question :-)
[17:40] <thomaschaaf> Hello I think my server stops accepting tcp connections because of some limits being reached. I found net.ipv4.ip_conntrack_max but that doesn't seem to be used anymore? Where are the current limits defined?
[17:41] <bekks> thomaschaaf: Why do you think that your server stops accepting connections?
[17:41] <Morkeleb> bekks: Basically, I've installed UBuntu 14.04, and upgraded all packages. I've not installed any 3rd party drivers or other stuff, as the laptop monitor works perfectly. The problem arises when connecting the external monitor.
[17:41] <bekks> Morkeleb: So you do not have nvidia drivers installed, which is the cause of the symptoms you are experiencing.
[17:41] <bekks> !nvidia | Morkeleb
[17:42] <htns> sup guys
[17:42] <TrevorLaneRay> jaapio, try this...
[17:42] <TrevorLaneRay> gconftool-2 --unset /desktop/gnome/interface/gtk_color_scheme
[17:42] <htns> what's the best terminal to use? any thoughts
[17:42] <TrevorLaneRay> Worth a shot.
[17:42] <MonkeyDust> htns  the one you like most, that is the best
[17:42] <TrevorLaneRay> ^^^^
[17:42] <Morkeleb> Well. I've got an older ubuntu laptop right next to this one, WITH the external nvidia drivers installed. And it doesn't work there, either.
[17:42] <htns> MonkeyDust, which one do u use? ;)
[17:42] <Morkeleb> So I have to install the crappy external drivers then, do I?
[17:43] <MonkeyDust> htns  the default terminal
[17:43] <jaapio> TrevorLaneRay: forgot to say that I'm using kde :-(
[17:43] <thomaschaaf> bekks: I am running a storage server and after starting a  program to download files from that server I can't download a file from another computer anymore. I tried having an open connection with nc -l 4444 and doing nc server 4444 and then I got data sent both ways. When I started the nc after I started the download program nc would not transfer any data
[17:43] <thomaschaaf> also new ssh connections dont work
[17:43] <MonkeyDust> thomaschaaf  there's also #ubuntu-server
[17:43] <TrevorLaneRay> @jaapio Ahh, Mkay... will keep looking
[17:44] <Morkeleb> bekks: I'm currently using the Nouveau drivers - those aren't good enough?
[17:44] <tsar> I'm trying to remove ubuntu-desktop after installing xubuntu-desktop. $ sudo apt-get --purge autoremove ubuntu-desktop removes only two packages python-gpgme and ubuntu-desktop. How can I uninstall all the ubuntu-desktop packages?
[17:46] <nibbler_> !grub
[17:46] <Morkeleb> !nvidia
[17:46] <MonkeyDust> !purexubuntu | tsar
[17:46] <tsar> MonkeyDust, thank you.
[17:47] <htns> #dondo
[17:48] <tsar> MonkeyDust, that was the result: http://pastebin.com/Nnum7MFT
[17:49] <tsar> Looks like it didn't succeed.
[17:50] <tsar> Oh, and it's written there that it applies only to 12.10, and I've got 14.04.
[17:50] <MonkeyDust> tsar  it did, but it can't remove what's no longer there in newer ubuntu versions
[17:51] <tsar> MonkeyDust, according to Synaptic, I still have all the Unity-related packages.
[17:51] <MonkeyDust> tsar  apparentally, the !factoid itself needs to be updated
[17:51] <MonkeyDust> tsar  try   sudo apt-get autoremove
[17:52] <saiberz> '
[17:53] <tsar> MonkeyDust, it removes nothing
[17:53] <tsar> 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 4 not upgraded.
[17:54] <MonkeyDust> tsar  ok, there something deeper, but... do you have backups?
[17:54] <tsar> MonkeyDust, well, I guess it shouldn't harm anything like Firefox config folder.
[17:55] <antheum> Is it possible le to go back of logs in here
[17:55] <bazhang> !1984 | antheum
[17:55] <Morkeleb> bekks: Ok, I've installed the NVIDIA drivers with "additional drivers". Didn't help. I now have 1360 as the highest resolution on the external monitor, which is still too low. And the desktop goes beyond the screen
[17:55] <MonkeyDust> tsar  ok, first, in synaptic, try 'residual config', delete all
[17:57] <bekks> Morkeleb: Which monitor is it, and which resolution do you get exactly?
[17:57] <htns> how do i configure my ubuntu server to start with a gui
[17:57] <htns> i installed fluxbox, anyway i can enable the fluxbox?
[17:57] <MonkeyDust> htns  install a desktop environment
[17:57] <htns> but i did install fluxbox
[17:57] <Morkeleb> bekks: It's a DELL monitor. 1600:1200. The exact max resolution I get is 1360x768
[17:58] <tsar> MonkeyDust, there are no ubuntu-related packages, just old kernel image and nvidia driver.
[17:58] <bekks> Morkeleb: Which one exactly?
[17:58] <k1l> htns: choose fluxbox on the login screen?
[17:58] <k1l> htns: a, if its a server you need to install a displaymanager like lightdm aswell
[17:59] <htns> looks like i needed to install xorg first :P
[17:59] <MonkeyDust> tsar  hm, ok, paste this line   dpkg -l | awk '/^rc/{print $2}' |  sudo xargs dpkg -P
[17:59] <jhutchins> Morkeleb: How much video RAM do you have?
[17:59] <htns> k1l, thx, ill install lightdm
[17:59] <tsar> MonkeyDust, done.
[18:00] <MonkeyDust> tsar  nothing?
[18:00] <Morkeleb> bekks: The crappy thing doesn't say what model it is. It's worked with 1600x1200 before on older ubuntus, though.
[18:00] <Morkeleb> jhutchins: Not sure. How to check in Ubuntu?
[18:00] <bekks> Morkeleb: Then look at the label at the back of it.
[18:00] <tsar> MonkeyDust, http://pastebin.com/my8Mxn5M
[18:01] <MonkeyDust> tsar  ok, sit and wait
[18:01] <jhutchins> Morkeleb: I think lshw will tell you, /var/log/Xorg.0.log might as well.
[18:02] <tsar> MonkeyDust, I'm going to try the aptitude way: http://askubuntu.com/questions/451620/how-to-completely-remove-kubuntu-desktop-from-ubuntu/458347#458347
[18:02] <Morkeleb> bekks: Hmm..... 2001FP?
[18:03] <bekks> Morkeleb: So did you run nvidia-settings to configure it?
[18:03] <Morkeleb> Yah. That's where I do the configuration.
[18:03] <tsar> Now aptitude is working and I hope it won't destroy anything extra.
[18:04] <bekks> Morkeleb: And you start your computer with the monitor connected?
[18:04] <Morkeleb> yup
[18:04] <ryan_46> 600
[18:05] <htns> how can i change the resolution of fluxbox when i start with 'startx' ??
[18:05] <pngo> htns: xrandr
[18:06] <TJ-> Morkeleb: This one ( says native is 1600x1200 @ 60Hz http://www.dell.com/downloads/global/products/monitors/en/spec_2001fp_en.pdf
[18:06] <bekks> Morkeleb: Can you pastebin "xrandr -q" please, and provide the URL?
[18:06] <Morkeleb> TJ: THat's the one
[18:06] <fantasma> hola de don depuedo descargas peliculas  gracias
[18:06] <TJ-> Morkeleb: It's possible the EDID isn't being returned correctly from the monitor - can you "pastebinit /var/log/Xorg.0.log"
[18:07] <Morkeleb> just a sec...
[18:08] <Morkeleb> bekks: http://pastebin.com/DSTMSpZ0
[18:09] <Morkeleb> TJ: http://pastebin.com/uiET87n8
[18:09] <htns> pngo, xrandr: Failed to get size of gamma for output default
[18:09] <htns> :\
[18:10] <TJ-> Morkeleb: It is connected to the analog VGA port?
[18:10] <htns> is there some config file i can change to change the resolution??
[18:10] <Morkeleb> TJ: "Unable to read EDID for display device...."
[18:10] <Morkeleb> Yes.
[18:10] <TJ-> Morkeleb: "(WW) NVIDIA(GPU-0): Unable to read EDID for display device CRT-0"
[18:10] <TJ-> Morkeleb: Check cable... try replacement cable
[18:10] <Morkeleb> THat wold make it hard to read the EDID, wouldn't it
[18:10] <Morkeleb> Hm
[18:11] <Morkeleb> Nah. The cable is fine. I've just replaced it, and the old one wasn't showing signs of being broken either.
[18:11] <TJ-> Morkeleb: monitors are quite infamous for corrupting their EDID  EEPROM storage... could also be that
[18:11] <htns> so im running ubuntu within virtualbox, if that help
[18:11] <TJ-> Morkeleb: Did the monitor work with the 'old' cable?
[18:11] <htns> ubuntu server 14 inside latset version of virtualbox
[18:11] <htns> :3c
[18:11] <pngo> htns: not sure what that error msg is
[18:12] <TJ-> Morkeleb: Check pins at both ends, on the PC and on the monitor. look for bent pins, or blockages in sockets of the female receptacles.
[18:12] <Morkeleb> TJ: No. I was using a normal cable/setup, without it working. Now I'm using a KVM switch with new cables.
[18:12] <bekks> htns: You have to install the guest additions.
[18:12] <Morkeleb> Hm ok
[18:12] <htns> bekks, okay im doing that right now
[18:12] <htns> http://askubuntu.com/questions/3205/higher-screen-resolution-in-virtualbox
[18:12] <htns> thank goodness for ubuntu
[18:12] <TJ-> Morkeleb: Otherwise you'll have to create a custom "/etc/X11/xorg.conf" with the monitor V- and H-sync frequencies so the GPU can calculate the available modes
[18:13] <TJ-> Morkeleb: Aha! soon as you said "KVM switch" ... well known to cause EDID failure. You'll need the custom xorg.conf
[18:13] <techfreak1> hi gyus
[18:13] <techfreak1> https://gist.github.com/anonymous/8bc41da9f66871f46262
[18:13] <jhutchins> Morkeleb: The KVM is probably preventing the EDID from being read, it's attempting to "read" the KVM.
[18:13] <techfreak1> have a cursor lags problem in ubuntu
[18:13] <bekks> techfreak1: Whats to be found there?
[18:14] <techfreak1> someone can help?
[18:14] <Morkeleb> Hm. Argh.
[18:14] <Eco2876> hello I am trying to use lmms 1.0 on ubuntu 12.04 sound seems okay on the system but when I try to use lmms there is high distortion with alsa settings
[18:14] <techfreak1> ubuntu 14.04 by teway
[18:14] <Morkeleb> Ok. So how complicated is it to create a custom xorg.conf? I haven't done that since the dark ages.
[18:15] <TJ-> Morkeleb: Here's an example you can cut-down, where the EDID had to be overridden for one monitor. http://paste.ubuntu.com/8009921/
[18:15] <techfreak1> looks like problem with usb kernel module
[18:16] <OerHeks> Morkeleb, did you install virtualbox-guest-additions?
[18:16] <techfreak1> bekks: any advices?
[18:16] <Morkeleb> Thanks. But will I need to fill it in for the laptop display too?
[18:16] <TJ-> techfreak1: "pastebinit /var/log/dmesg" - clues will be there in the device configuration phase, if anywhere
[18:17] <Eco2876> any lmms user?
[18:17] <TJ-> Morkeleb: No, other displays can still autodetect if needed
[18:17] <Morkeleb> Ah, cool
[18:17] <TJ-> Morkeleb: Or, you could research the KVM, seen if there's a way to have it pass-through EDID
[18:17] <techfreak1> TJ-: http://paste.ubuntu.com/8009934
[18:18] <Morkeleb> Hm, thats a thought. THanks for the help so far :-)
[18:20] <techfreak1> TJ-: http://paste.ubuntu.com/8009952/ maybe will be heplful
[18:21] <antheum> Is it possible to copy a complete folder
[18:22] <tr33house> \part
[18:22] <techfreak1> TJ-: http://paste.ubuntu.com/8009960/
[18:23] <Morkeleb> TJ: Do I need to restart for the xorg.conf to take effect? Or just log in/out?
[18:24] <techfreak1> TJ-: acpi_osi=Linux irqpoll may halp I think
[18:24] <antheum> Do I need to use sudo
[18:25] <xangua> antheum: what is your goal?
[18:28] <Morkeleb> TJ: That did the trick :-)
[18:28] <htns> is there a lighter weight alternative to gnome-terminal?
[18:28] <bekks> htns: xterm
[18:28] <htns> becos... i only have fluxbox installed, and dont want to get 100 pkgs
[18:29] <htns> bekks, yeah but xterm isnt as sexy looking
[18:29] <bekks> htns: you dont need a terminal application at all on a server. :P
[18:29] <htns> hmm
[18:29] <Bombo> how can i start an xterm automatically after i login?
[18:29] <OerHeks> terminal application on a server is sexy.
[18:30] <bekks> htns: all you need is an ssh connection, which serves the same purpose as gnome-terminal on a server.
[18:30] <htns> i see
[18:30] <htns> thx
[18:30] <bekks> OerHeks: Redundancy is redundant. Not sexy. :)
[18:30] <htns> im trying to setup my minecraft dev environment
[18:30] <Bombo> or gnome-terminal
[18:30] <htns> Bombo, which DM/WM do you use?
[18:31] <Bombo> htns: lightdm
[18:31] <Bombo> htns: lxde right now
[18:31] <htns> hmm, i dunno then
[18:32] <Bombo> hm can i run a command before lightdm starts?
[18:32] <Bombo> i need to run a xrandr line to set the resolution
[18:32] <Bombo> lightdm starts in 1024x786, but i need 1360x786
[18:37] <Bluewolf> How does one check .iso hashes in the Download folder through the terminal?
[18:37] <Bombo> wasnt it $HOME/.xsession ?
[18:38] <Pugovka> привет)
[18:39] <antheum> Is any folder known as a directory. Even a sub folder?
[18:39] <ikonia> what do you mean ?
[18:40] <ikonia> a "folder" is the same thing as a "directory"
[18:41] <Bombo> Bluewolf: md5 hash? md5sum
[18:41] <Bluewolf> Bombo, md5sum yeah and how do I get it to spacifically target the .iso in my downloads with that?
[18:43] <antheum> ok if I  have a folder in Documents called Rem. How would I delete it
[18:44] <ikonia> antheum: right click on it and click "delete"
[18:44] <antheum> Sorry I mean in Terminal
[18:44] <ikonia> rm Rem
[18:44] <ikonia> rm -r Rem
[18:44] <Bombo> Bluewolf: put the file.iso and file.md5 in the same dir, run md5sum -c file.md5
[18:45] <antheum> ikonia: do I need to be in the documents directory or can I do it from home
[18:45] <ikonia> antheum: you need to be in 1 directory higher than the directory, or give the full path, eg: rm -f /somewhere/here/Rem
[18:47] <Bombo> ok found it, $HOME/.config/openbox/autostart
[18:47] <Bluewolf> Bombo, English man. I'm not familiar with commands at all, the most I know is running with administrator privileges "sudo".
[18:47] <antheum> ikonia: why -f
[18:48] <ikonia> force as it's a directory, or you can do "-r" for reursive, "man rm" for more info
[18:48] <eXn4> Good evning foks how is it going :)
[18:49] <s12> Evening
[18:51] <absk007> it's night time
[18:51] <Bombo> Bluewolf: do you have file.iso + file.md5 in the same folder?
[18:52] <terrorist> hi
[18:52] <terrorist> How can safely remove external usb HDD from command line?
[18:52] <Bluewolf> Bombo, Not sure what you mean by file.md5. The .iso is in my Downloads folder.
[18:52] <terrorist> like in windows or gnome which have safely remove button which will power down the device and after that you should just unplug and plug device cable for remounting
[18:53] <bekks> terrorist: just use "umount".
[18:53] <Bombo> Bluewolf: i thought you want to check a md5 checksum to see if the iso is complete?
[18:53] <Bombo> Bluewolf: what do you want to do (today)=
[18:53] <Bombo> ;)
[18:53] <HiddenDjinn> terrorist: remount
[18:54] <Bluewolf> Bombo, Yes I want to check the .iso checksum
[18:55] <Bombo> Bluewolf: you need a md5 sum file then from where you downloaded the iso
[18:56] <bekks> Bluewolf: Just looking at the site you downloaded the iso from and comparing the md5sum hashes is sufficient.
[18:56] <tsar> MonkeyDust, so, the receipt for removing unity seems to be this one: $ sudo apt-get autoremove --purge unity unity-common unity-services unity-lens-\* unity-scope-\* unity-webapps-\* gnome-control-center-unity hud libunity-core-6\* libunity-misc4 libunity-webapps\* appmenu-gtk appmenu-gtk3 appmenu-qt\* overlay-scrollbar\* activity-log-manager-control-center firefox-globalmenu thunderbird-globalmenu libufe-xidgetter0 xul-ext-unity xul-ext-webaccounts webaccounts
[18:56] <tsar> -extension-common xul-ext-websites-integration gnome-control-center gnome-session
[18:56] <Bombo> Bluewolf: that is a txt file with the checksum in it. if you got these two files, you can tell the program 'md5sum' to check the iso
[18:57] <Bluewolf> Bombo, I have the hashes from the site, I just don't know the command to tell 'md5sum' to check it?
[18:58] <gumble_> I have an live usb stick here with a ubuntu version on it. is there a quick way to check if it is 32 or 64 bit without restarting my pc and booting from the stick?
[18:58] <Bombo> Bluewolf: or you just generate the md5 sum for the iso, then look if it matches
[18:58] <Bombo> Bluewolf: just generate it, type 'md5sum the.iso' prints out a checksum, compare with eyes
[18:59] <SchrodingersScat> gumble_: if you do: uname -a   ##then it will probably have x86_64 listed, if it's 64bit
[19:00] <terrorist> Is there any GUI for rar?
[19:00] <gumble_> SchrodingersScat, but I'd have to reboot and run the live system on the stick for that or not?
[19:00] <SchrodingersScat> gumble_: oh, I see
[19:01]  * Bombo doesn't want to help terrorist 
[19:02] <gumble_> .
[19:03] <SchrodingersScat> gumble_: well, in my xubuntu 32-bit liveusb there's an md5sum.txt, and towards the end there's a few lines like './dists/trusty/main/binary-i386/Release' which I would expect to be different on a 64-bit
[19:03] <SchrodingersScat> gumble_: also README.diskdefines
[19:03] <gumble_> SchrodingersScat, found it! thanks for the help
[19:04] <Bluewolf> Bombo, "md5sum ubuntu-14.04-desktop-amd64.iso" in the terminal says - No such file or directory?
[19:04] <Bombo> Bluewolf: you need to be in the folder where the iso lies
[19:05] <Bombo> Bluewolf: 'cd Downloads' i guess
[19:05] <Guest4905> when using a mysql library , how long should it take other clients to build tumbnails for the new content?
[19:05] <Bombo> Bluewolf: then 'ls -l' shows a list of files in the current folder
[19:05] <Guest4905> thumbnails
[19:05] <ikonia> Guest4905: mysql has nothing to do with thumbnails
[19:05] <Guest4905> ikonia yes i know that
[19:06] <ikonia> then why did you ask ?
[19:06] <Guest4905> so ive run a library update, and it seens the new contect but not thumbnails, how does xbmc obtain those, does it do it on demand, or like every 12 hours or something?
[19:06] <Bombo> Bluewolf: it's the same as with windows (cmd.exe) ;)
[19:06] <ikonia> Guest4905: you're probably using cache
[19:06] <Guest4905> ikonia im asking how/when xbmc builds thumbnails when it sees new content
[19:06] <Bombo> Bluewolf: cd change directory, dir list content of dir
[19:07] <ikonia> Guest4905: on demand, you're probably using cache
[19:07] <Guest85549> Anyone willing to help? I'm having network issues in Ubuntu?..
[19:07] <Guest4905> ikonia how do I not use chache?
[19:07] <ikonia> Guest4905: flush the cache, check the client documentation
[19:08] <bekks> Guest85549: So ask your actual question :)
[19:09] <Guest85549> WELL, Ubuntu can't find my wireless card, so I'm forced to use my iPhone's tethering.
[19:09] <Guest4905> ikonia i dont want to do that, my thumbnails is 2.5 gb and i will loose all that and have to rebuild on each client from scratch?
[19:09] <Bluewolf> Bombo, I'm lost, it should not be difficult. How do I get it to checksum the .iso in my downloads, all I need is the hash and I will compare it with my eyes?
[19:09] <ikonia> Guest4905: your thunbnails would be either huge or an amaging number to be over 2GB
[19:09] <ikonia> Guest4905: you could just clear the cache for the files you want to refresh
[19:10] <norchacha> is this where I ask my ubuntu questions?
[19:10] <ikonia> it is
[19:10] <Guest4905> ikonia that thumbnail size is corrent, I have a lot of media, I did a fresh build of them last night so i know its only stuff i have
[19:10] <Guest4905> correct
[19:10] <norchacha> I have a question about running python scripts
[19:11] <ikonia> Guest4905: that seems unrealistic but does not change what I said
[19:11] <norchacha> I want to run a cgi-bin server, but everytime I try to run it gives me a 403 error
[19:11] <norchacha> python script needs to be executable it says
[19:11] <norchacha> however after a log chmods
[19:11] <norchacha> and right clicking and making it executable
[19:12] <norchacha> it still doesn't work
[19:12] <Guest4905> ikonia what do you mean unrealistic? Last night I deleted Thumbnails and Videodb78, created my library from scratch, and that is the thumbnails size, I have 4tb of media,
[19:12] <Artemis3> Bluewolf, you should use the terminal, cd the the folder and simply run md5sum file. when you open terminal it is cd Downloads to change to the Downloads folder
[19:12] <Bombo> Bluewolf: as i said, yes
[19:12] <ikonia> Guest4905: I have over 4Tb of media and my thumbnails are just a few hundred meg
[19:12] <Guest4905> either way ikonia they seem to be popping up on thier own as textures.db is updated over mysql i believe
[19:12] <sudormrf> anyone around that can help me figure out why nagios is not generating alert emails?
[19:13] <Artemis3> Bluewolf, you can autocomplete things by pressing tab when about half the name of folder or file.. case MaTtErs.
[19:13] <Guest4905> ikonia what do you think the issue could be then if that is way to large?
[19:13] <ikonia> Guest4905: no idea
[19:13] <Bombo> Bluewolf: got the term open?
[19:13] <iKrevedko> hi)
[19:13] <Bombo> Bluewolf: just type it
[19:14] <Guest4905> ikonia also my 4tb is 99% sd so 4tb of hd vs sd of course your tthumbnails would be less because you cant fit as many files?
[19:14] <ikonia> Guest4905: you have no idea what my content is
[19:14] <Bombo> Bluewolf: 'cd Downloads' changes to download folder, 'md5sum thefile.iso' shows you the sum. see if it matches.
[19:15] <Guest4905> that was meant to be a question ikonia
[19:15] <Guest4905> do you have alot of hd?
[19:15] <Bluewolf> Bombo: Got it, my stupidity has been over come. See if you had done that in the beginning I would have managed, anyway thank you :D
[19:15] <Bombo> Bluewolf: if you got a file with md5sum in it, you say 'md5sum -c file.md5' and md5sum tells you if its OK or not. no eyes needed
[19:15] <ikonia> Guest4905: a reasonable amount
[19:16] <Guest4905> that may be why mine is so big then, i dunno
[19:16] <Bombo> Bluewolf: if you done that a couple of times you see its not that complicated ;)
[19:16] <quantibility> this nick is registered
[19:16] <quantibility> some one stole me nick
[19:16] <Guest4905> i probably have about 12,000 individual vidoe files
[19:16] <Bluewolf> Bombo, You  really want to teach me that, look how long its taken just to md5sum (Not that difficult I know, I am)
[19:17] <Bluewolf> Best I use my eyes ::D
[19:17] <SchrodingersScat> quantibility: you probably want #freenode
[19:17] <quantibility> your right
[19:17] <Bombo> Bluewolf: there is a graphical tool to check that, wxChecksums, but its not in ubuntu unfortunately.
[19:17] <iKrevedko> Please help! Video and audio work  in  Firefox  is very slowly (adobe flash player  set)
[19:17] <Bombo> Bluewolf: thats enough for today's lesson ;)
[19:18] <m1dnight> guys, can I ask a question about my bash script here?
[19:18] <m1dnight> (its a very basic one :))
[19:18] <ikonia> maybe want to use #bash
[19:19] <felipefg> TJ-: damn, I booted in reovery mode, managed to do something that I'm not sure what because my VNC window was smaller than the full screen, now everything works... go figure
[19:19] <Bluewolf> Bombo: Yes Professor, tomorrow same time. Any study notes you want me to learn for tomorrows test? :D'
[19:19] <Xaphan> anyone have experience with daemontools on ubuntu?
[19:19] <iKrevedko> ahahah
[19:20] <TJ-> felipefg: You win the award for the most unusual bug solution I've heard this month :)
[19:20] <felipefg> hahaha
[19:20] <iKrevedko> There is a Russian?
[19:20] <Bombo> Bluewolf: ;)
[19:21] <SchrodingersScat> !ru
[19:21] <iKrevedko> lol)
[19:21] <redlance> Greetings.  I have 2 Brother laser printers.  They each have their own built in ethernet port, so they just sit out on my network, without a computer acting as a print server.  What if any, would the advantages be to running them through a samba print server?  Most of the client's a Windows boxes.
[19:21] <iKrevedko> thank you...
[19:21] <TJ-> redlance: central spooler would be about the only advantage
[19:21] <felipefg> but it called my attention that the VNC window was only showing the top left part. There probably was a descriptive error on screen but I couldn't see it
[19:21] <SchrodingersScat> !ask Xaphan
[19:21] <Xaphan> anyone know how to give a wine task crash protection, or restart it if it crashed automatically?
[19:21] <SchrodingersScat> !ask | Xaphan
[19:22] <redlance> TJ-, Would automatic driver download work?
[19:23] <TJ-> redlance: I'm not sure with CUPS; usually it requires doing a network-detection and it installs the driver from the archive automatically
[19:23] <iKrevedko> Users in russian channel  is died))
[19:23] <redlance> TJ-, Okay, thanks!
[19:24] <Xaphan> is anyone familular with daemontools daemon monitor?
[19:24] <quantibility> is there a room for thunderbird?
[19:25] <gumble_> is there a command which just outputs all partitions/disks and their disk space? I need to know if sdb is my usbstick
[19:25] <yeats> gumble_: df
[19:25] <yeats> gumble_: 'df -h' is for 'human-readable' output
[19:26] <quantibility> Yeats: android has an awesome free app for linux commands its sick
[19:26] <sudormrf> quantibility, https://wiki.mozilla.org/IRC
[19:26] <sudormrf> anyone around to help me figure out why nagios is not sending email notifications?
[19:27] <gumble_> yeats, thanks that is exactly what I searched for
[19:27] <kahrl> gumble_: I'd run mount and see which disk is mounted to /media/whatever_your_usb_stick_is_called
[19:27] <kahrl> (well, df displays this information too)
[19:28] <gumble_> kahrl, thanks too, but yeats solution already worked fine :)
[19:28] <quantibility> sudormrf: im a vet, since 11 im now 35
[19:28] <quantibility> ive been on irc for a long time
[19:28] <quantibility> on and off anyway
[19:29] <sudormrf> quantibility, well that page tells you the server address for mozilla's IRC
[19:29] <quantibility> ive writen two scripts
[19:29] <sudormrf> from there it should be simple...for a vet :D
[19:29] <quantibility> they are no longer found unless of course i manage to search of it when the sytem was upgrading but i doubt it..
[19:29] <quantibility> let me check
[19:30] <sudormrf> quantibility, worked just fine for me.  I connected and joined the thunderbird channel.  then left
[19:32] <quantibility> theres a reminate of it if you search the list you would see "By Shundun" called ***kblocker (edited for bots)
[19:32] <quantibility> http://digilander.iol.it/delphini/addons.html
[19:32] <quantibility> sadly though the file is gone
[19:32] <SamwiseGamgee> what is a ppa?
[19:33] <guntbert> !ppa | SamwiseGamgee
[19:34] <xNine> help, my internet speed gets random lag spikes over Wifi
[19:36] <SamwiseGamgee> If I run the following command in my terminal, "sudo apt-get install libreoffice," will that application show up in my Ubuntu Software Centre?
[19:37] <SamwiseGamgee> What will happen if I run that command line in my terminal?
[19:38] <absk007> how to disable monitor off automatically while VLC is fullscreen?
[19:39] <absk007> using LXDE
[19:39] <xNine> my WiFi is unnecessarily slow
[19:40] <Sixonesix> xNine: Tried turning power management off?
[19:41] <xNine> Sixonesix: I suspected something along that line, How can I find that setting?
[19:41] <Sixonesix> xNine: Try it temporarily first. In terminal, use iwconfig to get the list of your interfaces.
[19:42] <guntbert> SamwiseGamgee: apt-get is just another frontend to the same apt database as SoftwareCenter is - so no difference to be expected
[19:42] <Sixonesix> Assuming wlan0, "sudo iwconfig wlan0 power off"
[19:42] <SamwiseGamgee> ok, guntbert
[19:42] <xNine> Error for wireless request "Set Power Management" (8B2C) :
[19:43] <xNine>     SET failed on device wlan0 ; Operation not supported.
[19:44] <TBotNik> All; Not getting any answers on WP channel, all must be asleep!  Wondering if anyone here can help? Had to move a WP installed in test dir to main dir and will not login, giving DB errors at main page!  What is fix for this? DB user/pwd combo has not changed so guessing is a "Salt" issue.  Still pointed to the same DB. Need to reset all like fresh install!
[19:45] <x_root> hello, i have transmission and deluge installed, how can i set .torrent to transmission and magnet to deluge?
[19:45] <x_root> i tried some from the internet (*-mime torrent transmission-gtk.desktop, or something like that) and didn't worked.. =/
[19:47] <xNine> so there's no power management crap set on the chip, but it's still spiking every so often
[19:48] <theadmin> x_root: Right click any torrent file in your file manager, and in properties set them to open with Transmission
[19:48] <theadmin> x_root: As for magnet links, that would have to be set per-browser
[19:48] <xNine> to top it off, the chip turns off randomly, not showing any WiFi networks
[19:50] <x_root> theadmin, have tried from the terminal and didn't worked
[19:50] <theadmin> x_root: Tried what from the terminal?
[19:50] <x_root> but hat worked.. thanks A LOT theadmin, really :D
[19:51] <x_root> x-scheme-handler/torrent transmission.desktop .. something like that (can't remember exactly..) but that you said worked.. thanks.. really :)
[19:52] <xNine> How can I nail down my lag spikes?
[19:56] <tirengarfio> my sound try icon dissapear in gnome shell
[19:56] <theadmin> xNine: Keep a task manager of some sort open
[19:57] <theadmin> xNine: Watch for high CPU usage
[19:57] <xNine> theadmin: Network lag, not computer
[19:57] <bekks> xNine: Network lag might be imposed by high CPU load.
[19:58] <theadmin> xNine: Ah
[19:58] <xNine> compiz is the only thing doing much
[20:04] <SamwiseGamgee> I am running Xubuntu 14.04, and I want LibreOffice 4.3.  I believe I can install this new version of LibreOffice using the terminal.
[20:04] <SamwiseGamgee> Tell me if the following commands would work:
[20:04] <SamwiseGamgee> sudo apt-get install libreoffice
[20:05] <SamwiseGamgee> sudo add-apt-repository ppa:libreoffice/libreoffice-4-3
[20:05] <SamwiseGamgee> sudo apt-get update
[20:05] <SamwiseGamgee> sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[20:05] <bekks> SamwiseGamgee: Wrong order of commands.
[20:05] <theadmin> SamwiseGamgee: First add-apt-repository, then update, then install
[20:05] <bekks> dist-upgrade after update before install.
[20:06] <theadmin> SamwiseGamgee: Other than that should be fine.
[20:06] <SamwiseGamgee> thanks theadmin
[20:09] <SamwiseGamgee> Okay, theadmin, so is this the right order:
[20:09] <SamwiseGamgee> 1. sudo add-apt-repository ppa:libreoffice/libreoffice-4-3     2. sudo apt-get update 3. sudo apt-get dist-upgrade     4. sudo apt-get install libreoffice
[20:09] <theadmin> SamwiseGamgee: Yeah.
[20:09] <SamwiseGamgee> Awesome, thank you theadmin
[20:14] <antheum> How do I find the logs for this chat rooms again?
[20:15] <theadmin> antheum: irclogs.ubuntu.com
[20:17] <martin1989> hello people
[20:17] <martin1989> someone there?
[20:17] <antheum> Will the logs actualy show you conversations?
[20:18] <Geo> Is there a binary that will tell me the traffic rate in/out on an interface at the current point in time? not looking for long term logging like mrtg, just an instant look
[20:18] <martin1989> does any of you use skype?
[20:18] <bekks> martin1989: Why?
[20:18] <martin1989> i want to set a particular preference
[20:19] <martin1989> and i dont know how to do it
[20:19] <bekks> martin1989: So ask that particular question then :)
[20:20] <skinofstars> hello. i hope someone can help me. i just did an upgrade that failed part way through. i got back to a root term and finished apt-get upgrade, but now i can't in to a desktop session. getting "Failed to start session" on login
[20:22] <martin1989> good.. my question is: i want skype to close when a specific contact of mine goes away
[20:22] <Beldar> skinofstars, distro upgrade or within a release?
[20:22] <antheum> Will the logs actualy show you conversations?
[20:22] <martin1989> but close automatically
[20:22] <martin1989> is it possible to set that?
[20:22] <antheum> Can someone explain to me how to use the logs
[20:22] <skinofstars> Beldar: i was doing 13.10 to 14.04
[20:22] <quantibility> annything is possible martin
[20:23] <Beldar> skinofstars, Did you do a eol upgrade and change the sources?
[20:23] <martin1989> well.. how can i do that?
[20:23] <martin1989> i couldnt find it in ''preferences''
[20:24] <martin1989> is it some plug-in maybe?
[20:24] <skinofstars> Beldar: initially, i just hit the dist upgrade gui. when i got to root term , i just did apt-get upgrade
[20:24] <skinofstars> Beldar: but that was without a mounted /home
[20:24] <skinofstars> Beldar: /home wasn't mounting due to some missing dependencies
[20:25] <wolter> Why are the icons in my ~/.local/share/icons/hicolor not used as fallback/part of the system hicolor icon theme?
[20:25] <arvut> why doesn't ssh in ubuntu allow logins from wan ip's?
[20:25] <Beldar> skinofstars, Ah, not the correct way but it may be fixable. Can you get to a cli like a tty and run sudo apt-get -f install as a start. Also address your graphic hardware and if using any drivers not in the repos.
[20:26] <Beldar> skinofstars, Any PPA's and 3rd party repos used in 13.10?
[20:26] <skinofstars> Beldar: ahh, sorry, i'd done apt-get -f update
[20:26] <antheum> Will the logs actualy show you conversations?
[20:26] <skinofstars> Beldar: i'll have a check in the old sources list. probably nvidia though
[20:27] <Beldar> skinofstars, Nvidia from them or the ubuntu repos?
[20:27] <Beldar> or a ppa?
[20:28] <jeanlucas> Hi, someone can help me with efi boot not working?
[20:28] <skinofstars> Beldar: probably ubuntu repos. actually, the login screen woprks fine. it's desktop sessions that don't.
[20:28] <jeanlucas> Grub only sees Windows, not Ubuntu. I have the error boot-repair generated.
[20:28] <arvut> localhost is working, and I get to the loginscreen with the password auth and all, but then I get "Permission denied, please try again". the password is correct and same keyboardlayout is used.
[20:28] <antheum> Does anyone know how to use the logs?
[20:29] <skinofstars> Beldar: ok, only non-ubuntu in the old sources.list is spotify
[20:29] <winem> arvut, take a look at the error log of your httpd instance. sounds like you defined a folder as documentroot which does not exist or is not readable by the httpd user
[20:29] <Beldar> skinofstars, Probably goes no where is all. Problem is users add ppa's and 3rd party stuff which can change the app architecture causing failures like this, especially when upgraded incorrectly.
[20:30] <jeanlucas> can anyone help restoring Grub? Mine only sees Windows after I used boot-repair.
[20:30] <jeanlucas> http://paste.ubuntu.com/8010726/
[20:31] <skinofstars> Beldar: hmm. isn't there a dpkg fix command? i seem to remember that from a previous failed update, but i can't search at the moment
[20:31] <Beldar> skinofstars, Have you tried a safe X from recovery or a nomodeset boot?
[20:31] <skinofstars> Beldar: no, i have not. might be worth a spin. thanks
[20:31] <skinofstars> Beldar: i may be back ;)
[20:31] <Beldar> cool
[20:32] <antheum> Can I find the logs on my own computer from the IRC
[20:32] <arvut> winem: this has nothing to do with httpd. its sshd that denies access to wan users while localhost login works perfectly well with the password (i.e ssh user@localhost" works fine, while "ssh user@<wan.ip>" does not.
[20:32] <Beldar> jeanlucas, post the bootinfo url
[20:32] <jeanlucas> Beldar: http://paste.ubuntu.com/8010726/
[20:32] <winem> oh sorry, seems like I joined this channel too late
[20:33] <winem> arvut: do you have a firewall with configured NAT between your host and the WAN?
[20:34] <arvut> winem: the firewall permits ssh traffic, i get to the password prompt in ssh, after accepting the host.
[20:34] <Beldar> jeanlucas, No efi install not gpt partition table. However the windows is not showing it's boot info to show if uefi
[20:35] <antheum> Does anyone know?
[20:35] <Beldar> jeanlucas, Is the sdb disc first read in the bios?
[20:35] <Beldar> antheum, They areb on line.
[20:35] <Beldar> are*
[20:35] <winem> arvut: ok, so we can be sure that the ssh prompt is from the right server. next step would be to use ssh -v or -vv and to check the secure log (with increased loglevel)
[20:35] <expunge> antheum: ~/.xchat2, probably
[20:35] <expunge> antheum: if logging has been enabled
[20:36] <antheum> Beldar: how do you use them. for instance if I wanted to read over this page from today
[20:37] <arvut> winem: I'm used ssh, using it everyday in gentoo and to my dd-wrt router. its my friends ubuntu desktop that we try to ssh into, he can ssh to localhost, i can ssh to him but it just doesn't wanna accept the login (it adds the host fingerprint and all that usual stuff, but won't take the password even tho its correctly typed)
[20:37] <Beldar> antheum, Find them and the date you want and read them.
[20:37] <Beldar> antheum, NOt sure todays are there you will have to do some of the work is all.
[20:38] <jeanlucas> Beldar: yes, I am pretty sure sdb is the first read, I on Windows right now, want me to check anything?
[20:38] <antheum> Beldar: is this place called #ubuntu
[20:39] <Beldar> jeanlucas, pretty sure is not a definitive answer, yes check the bios, and or be sure sdb is rad first to start with. You have grub in sda and sdb mbr's
[20:39] <winem> arvut: this sounds weird. do both of you use the same user?
[20:39] <Beldar> antheum, yes.
[20:39] <newbie|3> hello
[20:40] <Beldar> jeanlucas, If it is a uefi bios it should be set as legacy and jut attempt to boot the sdb
[20:40] <Beldar> just*
[20:42] <jeanlucas> Beldar: I'll try
[20:42] <skinofstars> err, who was i just talking to?
[20:42] <skinofstars> Beldar: ?
[20:42] <winem> arvut: try to except a ssh user related issue
[20:42] <Beldar> jeanlucas, Windows although bootable seems to have some issues, not being able to see it's boot is not good, might need a chkdsk/f
[20:43] <Beldar> skinofstars> Beldar: ? Yes?
[20:44] <skinofstars> Beldar: i was missing some packages. fixed with apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[20:44] <skinofstars> Beldar: thanks for your help
[20:45] <Beldar> skinofstars, Cool, so you are set?
[20:45] <Beldar> no problem
[20:45] <skinofstars> Beldar: all cool :)
[20:45] <Beldar> skinofstars, 14.04 has 5 years support so stick with it.
[20:46] <Beldar> at least till next lts
[20:46] <skinofstars> Beldar: totally.
[20:46] <Beldar> ;)
[20:47] <kcj> Any ubuntu ops around? PM please.
[20:48] <Beldar> kcj, they have a channel what is the issue?
[20:49] <guntbert> kcj: you can /join #ubuntu-ops
[20:49] <jeanlucas> Beldar: me again, it was already Legacy and I booted from sda and sdb, both cases grub only sees Windows7
[20:49] <winem> sorry, but what does ops mean? operators / admins?!
[20:51] <KM0201> winem: pretty much just some folks on a power trip.. :)
[20:51] <Beldar> jeanlucas, Do a check on the windows from a right click on it in computers. I wonder if you have gotten grub into it's boot partition, can't tell as of now. Besides that you have a lvm for ubuntu, so it is a hunt and peck at possibilities. Getting windows straight is a good start to knock out outliers.
[20:51] <kcj> Thanks.
[20:51] <winem> KM0201: ok, thanks :)
[20:51] <Beldar> winem, Channel moderators
[20:51] <polarfuchs> Hello.
[20:52] <Beldar> KM0201, Please be accurate and keep your opinions to yourself.
[20:52] <KM0201> and then...
[20:52] <winem> Beldar: ok, thank you
[20:53] <KM0201> lol
[20:53] <polarfuchs> i just finished to install manually the very last version of Geary (e-mail client), because the one present in the repo is not up-to-date. But I'm looking for the way to start geary in french (or any other language). can someone help me?
[20:53] <Beldar> KM0201, You are not new here, try acting like an adult and follow the channels rules, this is support
[20:54] <KM0201> i dropped it long ago, you're the one keeping after it
[20:55] <Thyrth> Hey did any one get the useragent to work on Ubuntu ?
[20:55] <guntbert> Thyrth: what useragent?
[20:56] <Thyrth> Useragent Switch plugin for Chrome
[20:56] <Thyrth> http://www.reddit.com/r/Ubuntu/comments/2d5a85/native_netflix_working_in_ubuntu_1404/
[20:56] <Thyrth> This  is what I am talkin about
[20:57] <Beldar> KM0201, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/Guidelines read carefully please, your posting opinions...etc just misslead users as we clearly saw.
[20:57] <KM0201> Thyrth: i've got the netflix app.. (i didn't click your link).. it's working fine.
[20:57] <Dragin> Is there a channel to help install rscw and fftw?
[20:57] <KM0201> oh geez
[20:57] <Trudko> guys any idea why when I run video in default video app in ubuntu video is slow when I run it in vlc it works nicely
[20:58] <Thyrth> I'm also kinda new  to Ubuntu as well
[20:58] <Beldar> Thyrth, Technically both 3rd party and not supported.
[20:59] <Beldar> Thyrth, You may get help, the time of wait may be a factor is all.
[20:59] <MonkeyDust> Thyrth  the more new users we see, the better
[20:59] <KM0201> Thyrth: have you looked at this?.. the netflix app works fine for me...  http://itsfoss.com/netflix-ubuntu-1404-desktop-app/
[20:59] <Thyrth> I am new to it I switch over from Windows  its annoying
[21:00] <jeanlucas> Beldar: yeah, I had Ubuntu, installed Windows and Grub disappeared, as expected and then used bootrepair and after that I got here.
[21:00] <KM0201> wel, you hopefully kept Windows around while you troubleshoot
[21:00] <MonkeyDust> Thyrth  learn ubuntu like you learned windows: by using it and getting familiar with it
[21:00] <Thyrth> Nah I'm done with Windows I dislike it
[21:01] <expunge> Thyrth: there's a good extension for Firefox called uacontrol
[21:01] <KM0201> Thyrth: well, hopefully that works fo ryou... most people who go cold turkey like that, end up reinstalling windows when they get some insurmountable problem they can't figure out in 10min
[21:01] <Thyrth> Yeah I am famliar with this app  but  what I am using it uses html5
[21:01] <Beldar> jeanlucas, Yes that is a given, can do a chk on the windows setup so we can see it's boot to rule out grub having been put there? That will cause this eaxct issue.
[21:01] <expunge> but I'm pretty sure you can get a netflix app that works on its own
[21:01] <expunge> Thyrth: it uses html5 and incorrectly relies on ua sniffing?
[21:02] <Thyrth> ua sniffing I donnu
[21:02] <jeanlucas> Beldar: I'm not a Windows user, how do I do it?
[21:02] <klemax> Hello, is there a way to downgrade from php 5.5 to php5.2 or php5.3?
[21:03] <Beldar> jeanlucas, Go to computer right click the C partiton and there is a disc chk in one of the tabs, it will need a reboot to run is all.
[21:03] <Thyrth> I've been on ubuntu for more than two weeks I'm quit happy with it
[21:03] <Beldar> Thyrth, Two issue this is not chat, second preface answers to others with their nick, this is support only.
[21:04] <polarfuchs> i just finished to install manually the very last version of Geary (e-mail client), because the one present in the repo is not up-to-date. But I'm looking for the way to start geary in french (or any other language). can someone help me?
[21:04] <jeanlucas> Beldar: checking
[21:04] <Thyrth> ok then Where do I chat about apps Beldar ?
[21:04] <jeanlucas> Beldar: does it help if I say I have two HDs?
[21:04] <Beldar> Thyrth, #ubuntu-offtopic
[21:05] <jakesyl> hey guys been trying to pysftp into my ubuntu server using this script http://git.io/-o_IBw and been getrting this error http://git.io/lxIvLA
[21:05] <jeanlucas> Beldar: no problems on disk
[21:07] <timofygoktas> timofeygoktas
[21:07] <jakesyl> getting* it's wierd because when i try to ssh it prompts for a password
[21:10] <jakesyl> my sshd allows password authentication
[21:11] <klemax> use ssh keys instead.
[21:13] <_1_george> hey let me join you friend
[21:13] <Beldar> jeanlucas, I know you have two HD I have addressed you referencing sda and sdb. Are you not understanding some things I say to you, than addressing them if at all not in the moment?
[21:15] <Beldar> jeanlucas, You seem to not understand are just lost.
[21:15] <Beldar> and*
[21:15] <_Dex_> hi?
[21:15] <expunge> hi dex
[21:16] <_Dex_> spanish?
[21:16] <_Dex_> hi beldar
[21:16] <_Dex_> hi expunge
[21:16] <Beldar> !es | _Dex_
[21:16] <Zadochob> hi
[21:17] <expunge> hi zad
[21:17] <_Dex_> gracias soy nuevo en esto
[21:18] <ga_sk8er> ok i  just ran the terminal command for flash  player sudo apt-get install flashplugin-installer
[21:18] <expunge> ok
[21:18] <ga_sk8er> it tells me 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove & 1 not upgraded.....how do  i upgrade that 1?
[21:19] <jeanlucas> Beldar: thanks I guess
[21:20] <Bashing-om> ga_sk8er: Depends on what and why is being held. What results from terminal command -> sudo apt-get dist-upgrade <- ?
[21:21] <Beldar> jeanlucas, I have given you pertinent info. If you have not understood it I wont know unless you address it. We can't read your mind, however it is after a while not hard to tell there is an issue in this.;)
[21:21] <ga_sk8er> that upgraded it :)
[21:22] <ga_sk8er> now to go onlnie & see that it works
[21:22] <Beldar> jeanlucas, I'm not paid to to serve every whim, this is volunteer work it is a two way cooperation environment.
[21:23] <ga_sk8er> every time i  go to play an onlnie game, it tells me that my adobe flash player is out of date :(
[21:24] <Beldar> ga_sk8er, What browser?
[21:24] <ga_sk8er> firefox
[21:24] <_1_george> :'(:D
[21:24] <ga_sk8er> i have chromium downloaded. should i try it?
[21:24] <Beldar> ga_sk8er, Try chrome theyn have thier own pepper flash it might be more workable.
[21:24] <Beldar> ga_sk8er, Or chromium with pepper flash.
[21:25] <Beldar> ga_sk8er, The adobe linux flash is not supported and old is all.
[21:25] <ga_sk8er> chromium says it too
[21:26] <ga_sk8er> but how do i  update the flash player
[21:26]  * p_q1499 Please Visit Our channell #irccloud on irc.bluechat.it
[21:26] <Guest10323> hey guys, i cant seem to change the wallpaper on my desktop to anything other than whats in the /backdrop folder. i cant right click and set as wallpaper
[21:26] <jakesyl> is sftp different then ssh or does sftp tunnel through ssh
[21:26] <Beldar> ga_sk8er, Find the pepper flash download, it is more up to date but has it's limitations. And address any instructions you are missing or don't understand.
[21:26] <hakkal> Hello, after I did "sudo apt-get update" I got stuck at "100% [Waiting for headers]" Is there any fix for this? Thanks
[21:26] <Guest10323> sorry nick i was typing out my question
[21:27] <SchrodingersScat> jakesyl: believe it uses ssh
[21:27] <nuf0xx> ga_sk8er: see teh wiki: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Chromium/Getting-Flash
[21:27] <jakesyl> so why would this work with ssh and not sftp
[21:27] <Beldar> hakkal, Stuck how long? How many times have you just shut it down and tried again?
[21:27] <Guest10323> any help or advice?
[21:28] <Beldar> Guest10323, Right click what you want as wallpaper and click set as wallpaper.
[21:28] <hakkal> Beldar: I tried update 2 times, both stuck without response.
[21:29] <Guest10323> beldar, i cant. i do that and nothing happens
[21:29] <Beldar> Guest10323, Has to be a wallpaper friendly picture and nothing happens is an empty response
[21:30] <Beldar> hakkal, Try sudo apt-get -f install
[21:30] <hakkal> Beldar: Looks like it moved after 5 min of waiting. Maybe there was bad connection. Thank you for help
[21:30] <ga_sk8er> alot of times if the image has movement (like a gif) the system wont allow you to set it as wallpaper
[21:31] <Beldar> hakkal, That can be the case, you can change the mirrors if needed.
[21:31] <Guest10323> so i might have the wrong type of picture? hm okay? oh and im not trying to be rude its just that literally nothing happens on the screen. the right click menu stays open and i can click over and over again and nothing
[21:32] <Beldar> Guest10323, We know no rudeness intended, it is just details are pertinent, it does take awhile to understand what details.
[21:33] <Guest10323> i was just wondering if it was a bug and if anyone else in the community was experiencing this, but ill try some other pictures and get back to you guys! thanks a bunch fellas, you always come through for me!
[21:33] <conterfit-fake> O/
[21:34] <conterfit-fake> Hey nuf0xx!
[21:34] <Beldar> Guest10323, helpful link for getting help. ;)  http://www.sabi.co.uk/Notes/linuxHelpAsk.html
[21:34] <nuf0xx> sup fake?
[21:34] <Guest10323> thank you Beldar! sorry if i broke some rules
[21:35] <antheum> Can aybody help me with a driver problem
[21:35] <conterfit-fake> You used arch? what are you doing here?
[21:35] <Beldar> Guest10323, No rules broken, we jus want you to get help.
[21:35] <boze> I can connect to my VPN on 14.04, but it won't load web pages. Anygot any cluefull hints?
[21:35] <nuf0xx> testing
[21:35] <conterfit-fake> Tchau!
[21:36]  * nuf0xx tips hat
[21:36] <antheum> how do I get a conif_fw_loader into my .conif file
[21:36] <Beldar> antheum, Not with the issues addressed and some hardware details and other pertinents.
[21:37] <Beldar> without*
[21:37] <ga_sk8er> im installing pepper flash now. never had this much trouble in the past with other versions of ubuntu
[21:38] <antheum> Beldar: ok what do you need to know eactly
[21:38] <Beldar> ga_sk8er, You seemed unaware of the adobe flash not having support and the version being old, is this correct?
[21:39] <ga_sk8er> im running the new 14.4 version of ubuntu. last time i  ran ubuntu was the version 12.04
[21:39] <Beldar> ga_sk8er, Does not answer the question, broad statements like "never had this issue" mean nothing is all.
[21:40] <Beldar> and bypasses your own skill and knowledge level
[21:40] <ga_sk8er> no i didnt know anything about flash & lniux since version 12 so i didnt know they quit any support for it
[21:40] <Beldar> ga_sk8er, Quit long beforem 12.04
[21:40] <nuf0xx> Beldar: why you pick on people? they come here for help not to have you belittle them
[21:41] <arrrghhh> hey all.  getting an error message in Evolution on *some* outgoing messages on how I need to connect to my mailbox before sending mail... is there some step I can take before sending mail to fix this?
[21:41] <expunge> ga_sk8er: nothing much has changed
[21:42] <antheum> Beldar: ok finally I have actually found the correct software firmware, after days of trawling the world, and have downloaded it. However, on the read me file it states 'if I want to know if the kernel is supported I need look at  the CONFIG_FW_LOADER definition on your kernel's .config file.
[21:42] <ga_sk8er> it has changed alot for the better was just having some trouble with the flash player thing
[21:42] <ga_sk8er> back on version 12, i couldnt get my webcam to work....it works on version 14
[21:43] <antheum> Beldar: having looked at the .cofig fil. there doesnt appear to be that file
[21:43] <arrrghhh> here's a screenshot of the issue
[21:44] <arrrghhh> #ifdef CONFIG_CPU_VOLTAGE_TABLE
[21:44] <arrrghhh> er
[21:44] <arrrghhh> https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/12691845/Screenshot%20from%202014-08-10%2015%3A39%3A40.png
[21:46] <antheum> Beldar: any ideas
[21:47] <daftykins> arrrghhh: are you using POP and SMTP, or IMAP and SMTP?
[21:48] <antheum> Beldar: oh I have an intel centrino advanced-N 6235
[21:49] <ubone> could someone pls tell me the hex # of selected_bg_color in /usr/share/themes/Adwaita/gtk-2.0/gtkrc
[21:50] <arrrghhh> daftykins, IMAP and SMTP I believe
[21:51] <daftykins> arrrghhh: have you configured authentication on the outgoing? check with your provider for required settings
[21:51] <trism> ubone: #4A90D9
[21:51] <trism> ubone: in 14.04 anyway
[21:51] <arrrghhh> daftykins, it does work most of the time.  sends mail without issue more often than not
[21:51] <ubone> thank you exactly trism
[21:52] <daftykins> arrrghhh: ok, but is that configured? anything different about the ones that fail?
[21:52] <antheum> ok can anyone tell me if there is a particular place on here for kernel and firmware help
[21:52] <arrrghhh> daftykins, so far nothing different about the ones that fail from what I can tell.  I'll check the configuration (not my machine)
[21:53] <daftykins> antheum: depends what the issue is
[21:59] <andybrine> does anyone know if its possible to install totem 3.12 in ubuntu 14.04?
[22:07] <MonkeyDust> andybrine  if you find a PPA or so
[22:08] <andybrine> MonkeyDust do you know of a ppa that has it in?
[22:08] <MonkeyDust> andybrine  no
[22:09] <andybrine> MonkeyDust, Thats what I thought. I was hoping someone here would have installed it
[22:11] <klemax> How can i see supported php versions on ubuntu releases? ( all of them)
[22:12] <Exagone313> all are supported i think
[22:12] <klemax> all of them are supported on 10.04 , 12.04 and 14.04?
[22:12] <klemax> i dont think so.
[22:13] <Exagone313> http://askubuntu.com/questions/109404/how-do-i-install-latest-php-in-supported-ubuntu-versions-like-5-4-x-in-ubuntu-1
[22:15] <Exagone313> there is only 12.04 and 14.04 on this ppa
[22:22] <Guest24016> hi
[22:24] <arrrghhh> !hi
[22:27] <jcbjoe> hi
[22:27] <user7654> I seem to be having a permissions problem on a mounted ntfs filesystem.  even as root, I am unable to read or delete files.
[22:28] <daftykins> user7654: that's unlikely, perhaps it was mounted read only.
[22:28] <user7654> any idea what may be causing this?  also it seemsto only be files touched or handled by osx.
[22:28] <Dragin> Does anyone know of a room to help setup rscw and fftw?\
[22:29] <daftykins> Dragin: what are they?
[22:29] <user7654> nope, I checked... mount is rw, can post to pastebin if you like
[22:29] <Dragin> Programs to make Linux talk to my HAM Radio and vicea versa
[22:29] <daftykins> user7654: are you relying on an auto mount, or fstab?
[22:29] <Dragin> mainly for Morse Code
[22:29] <daftykins> Dragin: no idea but there's a bot to help you find channels
[22:30] <daftykins> !alis | Dragin Try this
[22:30] <sheksi> ciao
[22:30] <Dragin> thank you
[22:30] <jr_> What is ATI?
[22:30] <Dragin> !alis
[22:31] <user7654> daftykins: I manually mounted the filesystem.
[22:31] <sheksi> italiani??
[22:31] <daftykins> !it
[22:31] <user7654> the issue first reared it's head trying to run tar as a backup.
[22:31] <sheksi> si
[22:40] <samthewildone> Will any of my software be affected by disabling the source code repos ?
[22:43] <koell> Hi. i just got a thinkpad t440s. Now it has a full HD display, but anything is very small for me. Now I tried to find a different resolution, but there is no 16:9 resolution to choose from. I want to use 1600x900 :/
[22:44] <arrrghhh> daftykins, lol.  so authentication is not enabled, the checkbox for "server requires authentication" is unchecked... but of course since it works "most of the time" they are unwilling to check the box.  :s
[22:44] <daftykins> arrrghhh: mm-hmm, maybe be useful to say you're sharing a problem of someone elses in future too
[22:45] <arrrghhh> daftykins, ya I dunno.  I'm just going to tell him to double check his settings with his provider... blah.
[22:46] <arrrghhh> koell, which ones do you have to choose from?
[22:46] <daftykins> arrrghhh: also to join the 21st century, who uses a mail client XD
[22:47] <arrrghhh> daftykins, ohgod you have no idea.  It's my father.  Just glad I got him to use Ubuntu so I could stop having to deal with his various "Windows" issues...
[22:48] <daftykins> ah family :D
[22:48] <arrrghhh> ya, his problems are baffling.  Had to build a special version of gnucash 2.4.15 for him so he would be happy about some cash flow report...
[22:49] <koell> arrrghhh: 1920x1080, 1600x1050, 1600x1024, 1440x900, ...
[22:50] <koell> but no 1600x900
[22:50] <arrrghhh> koell, I would choose 1920x1080
[22:50] <daftykins> i think the idea is that there isn't a choice
[22:51] <daftykins> koell: are you saying your LCDs native resolution isn't available?
[22:51] <quantibility> where can i be helped on apache ?
[22:51] <daftykins> i'd bet apache has a channel.
[22:51] <quantibility> yeah me too
[22:51] <quantibility> i just wish i knew it
[22:51] <koell> i tried 1360x768 but this is too big for me, 1920x1080 is too small. i think 1600x900 would be great.
[22:51] <arrrghhh> quantibility, #apache doesn't work?  if you're running ubuntu-server the #ubuntu-server guys are helpful.
[22:51] <quantibility> i haven't yet familarized myself with Xchat, i more familar with mirc
[22:52] <daftykins> koell: that's not how resolutions work, you have to use the exact resolution of your display, then change the DPI if you have issues with the size
[22:52] <koell> daftykins: my native resolution is 1920x1080 but i would like to use 1600x900 for my eyes
[22:52] <quantibility> cant not send to channel probably cause my account has been logined into in forever
[22:52] <arrrghhh> quantibility, /j #apache-help
[22:52] <arrrghhh> and you may need to be authenticated (logged into with nickserv)
[22:53] <quantibility> yeah working on retiving
[22:53] <daftykins> quantibility: yeah go register, ask in #freenode if you have issues
[22:53] <koell> hmm, im using 1360x768 now. very sad there is no 1600x900 to choose from, as it is 16:9 as well. weird thing
[22:53] <daftykins> like i say you shouldn't just try and pick a resolution
[22:53] <arrrghhh> koell, how about this - try switching large text ON with 1920x1080
[22:53] <daftykins> nevermind.
[22:54] <arrrghhh> (it's under universal access)
[22:54] <koell> arrrghhh: i tried, but some apps dont use the big text then. it is not a highdpi screen so i think this is the wrong way
[22:54] <koell> i may call the support to change the display to 1600
[22:54] <arrrghhh> hm
[22:55] <koell> im just look into https://www.google.at/search?client=ubuntu&channel=fs&q=ubuntu+choose+1600x900
[22:56] <koell> maybe it is a driver problem. i mean i can use 1600 on windows...
[22:56] <arrrghhh> koell, if you want to get crazy https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Config/Resolution/#Adding_undetected_resolutions
[22:57] <koell> thanks, ill give a try
[22:58] <arrrghhh> that guy was trying to force a higher resolution, but was using the same link
[23:01] <felipefg> Another thing that has bugged me for a while. If I apt-get remove (or purge) a package, next time I fire up aptitude it's marked to be installed. How do I keep it from happening?
[23:03] <Beldar> felipefg, Why are you using both, you can clean the apt cache etc? I never use aptitude.
[23:04] <Ademan> The "Fira Sans" font is available in both otf and ttf formats, is one any better for Ubuntu than the other? (For instance if otf includes kerning information in a usable way unlike the ttf hinting)
[23:04] <Beldar> Ademan, Better is a subjective opinion, use what works for you.
[23:05] <Ademan> Beldar: that's true of a lot of things, however there is absolutely an objective "better" in this case
[23:05] <Ademan> but thanks
[23:06] <Beldar> Ademan, exactly objectivity may not even exist. ;)
[23:06] <felipefg> Beldar: I really like the aptitude user interface, when using it interactively. The uninstall via apt-get is done via scripts. Actually via ansible (which uses the python-apt binding, but the behaviour is the same as if I use apt-get on the command line)
[23:07] <Beldar> you may have a reasoning that suggests it does here however it is an opinion and subjective
[23:08] <Beldar> felipefg, I would only use aptitude if there was some dependencies that were involved and needed controlling.
[23:09] <Ademan> Beldar: I'm not really interested in debating the existence of objectivity, I actually sort of agree, but what you're saying isn't useful for this discussion
[23:10] <Beldar> Ademan, The problem here is best is not a support issue per-say both work correct?
[23:12] <arrrghhh> felipefg, I use aptitude - but only aptitude.  Works fine here...
[23:13] <Beldar> Ademan, If one did and the other did not it would be a closed issue. You disregarded my basic hint that it was not a support issue, I will assume not knowing the channels norms.
[23:14] <spadorleo> Hello :)
[23:14] <daftykins> hi
[23:14] <daftykins> aaand bye.
[23:16] <Ademan> So anyways, does anyone know if opentype fonts behave any better than true type fonts on Ubuntu?
[23:16] <cooldog> hello
[23:16] <felipefg> yeah, unfortunately using aptitude only would create a pretty bad anti-pattern on my automation scripts, as ansible's apt module doesn't give me this option
[23:17] <quantibility> logged in
[23:17] <quantibility> woot
[23:17] <felipefg> aptitude-only would be really convenient :-)
[23:17] <cooldog> ty
[23:18] <felipefg> it seems aptitude keep-all will remedy things. Guess I'll just use that
[23:18] <cooldog> Hii.. :)
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[23:22] <unopaste> cooldog you have been muted for 60 seconds as it looks like you are pasting lots of lines into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com and paste just the URL of your data here when you are unmuted
[23:23] <adamweld> hi fellas
[23:23] <Ademan> Hrm just as I suspected, it looks like otf stores hinting information differently from ttf's bytecode
[23:23] <cooldog> Hii.. :)
[23:24] <Bashing-om> cooldog: A support question ?
[23:24] <daftykins> cooldog: don't do that again.
[23:24] <Ben64> cooldog: this channel is for ubuntu support only, if you'd like to chat, please do so in #ubuntu-offtopic
[23:24] <cooldog> �key!!!!
[23:24] <cooldog> o k
[23:25] <cooldog> �key!!!!
[23:25] <cooldog> o k
[23:26] <orangerobot> is YUMI from pendrivelinux.com safe to create pendrive bootables?
[23:26] <Ben64> orangerobot: probably
[23:26] <arrrghhh> !help | cooldog
[23:26] <arrrghhh> orangerobot, yes I've used it before
[23:26] <daftykins> orangerobot: from Windows? of course.
[23:27] <daftykins> orangerobot: but if you're only making a drive with one, use Universal USB Installer
[23:27] <orangerobot> Ben64 arrrghhh daftykins I see. thank you
[23:27] <cooldog> i am pacint lol
[23:27] <orangerobot> daftykins: I will install 14.04 over my old one because I've messed up upgrading it
[23:29] <cooldog> Got To Go!!
[23:29] <cooldog> Bye!!
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[23:29] <unopaste> cooldog you have been muted for 60 seconds as it looks like you are pasting lots of lines into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com and paste just the URL of your data here when you are unmuted
[23:29] <Ben64> well that was quite pointless
[23:30] <arrrghhh> some people's children.
[23:31] <Ben64> arrrghhhAWAY: don't do away nick changes please
[23:34] <Pici> \/wii coolcat
[23:36] <DS-McGuire> Can anybody help me with signing the Ubuntu code of conduct? I have done it three times and it still says I haven't done it.
[23:36] <DS-McGuire> https://launchpad.net/~daniel-mcguire351
[23:39] <Bashing-om> DS-McGuire: It has been some time since I signed, but, I too had difficulties, and I had to remove the bad keys I had made, and carefully follow the instructions.
[23:40] <DS-McGuire> Bashing-om: Should I do what you did and see if that works?
[23:41] <Bashing-om> DS-McGuire: It is what I HAD to do, in order to pass the correct key to launchpad.
[23:41] <DS-McGuire> Bashing-om: Okay I will try that, thanks :)
[23:42] <Bashing-om> DS-McGuire: If still with problems, ket us know An I will try and review the proceedure ( it does work ).
[23:42] <Bashing-om> ket/let*
[23:42] <DS-McGuire> I will get back to you in a few mins, thanks :)
[23:46] <qpan> hi, can people see my text?...I'm new to irc
[23:48] <Loshki> qpan: loud & clear. If you have a Ubuntu support question, this is the place. Ask away...
[23:48] <qpan> cool, THANKS much
[23:50] <paris> Great. Have can I change to be the default "Times New Roman" in LibreOffice?
[23:52] <wafflejock> paris, in the preferences in LibreWriter settings there is a "Basic Font" section with defaults
[23:55] <dp> is anyone here from the nginx ppa?
[23:57] <Beldar> paris Is it not in the font choice?
[23:57] <Beldar> ah gone
[23:58] <wafflejock> yeah qpan just joined #angularjs asked a question and left too
[23:58] <Loshki> less than 7 minute attention span...
[23:58] <Beldar> dp, Not a support topic, contact them directly, don't roll for them.
[23:58] <Beldar> troll
[23:59] <dp> Beldar: eh?
[23:59] <Beldar> !PPA | dp
[23:59] <craigbass1976> I've got a permissions issue... I've got /var/www/html which is where all of my server's sites live.  I don't necessarily want all of them in there though; I want to be working on them without having them viewable to folks looking at the server
[23:59] <dp> understood. just didn't know if anyone from the ppa was in here so I could ask
[23:59] <Beldar> dp, Don't do that.