[13:20] <bluesabre> ochosi: the screen off code for the greeter in utopic (1.8.5) seems to cause a new black screen issue
[13:23] <bluesabre> If I walk away from my computer for an extended amount of time, coming back, I can move my mouse but the screen stays dark (on the login screen)
[13:23] <bluesabre> If I type my password, the screen is restorted when logging back in
[13:23] <bluesabre> Still investigating, but good to know
[14:33] <bluesabre> xchat dropped from seed
[15:29] <brainwash> bluesabre: NOOOOOOO
[15:29] <brainwash> :P
[15:29] <bluesabre> haha
[15:30] <brainwash> so it looks like 14.10 will be a very boring release
[15:30] <elfy> when you adding hexchat and removing pidgin, abiword, gnumeric and light locker :p
[15:31] <brainwash> you can't just remove pidgin o.o
[15:31] <brainwash> how should people communicate over the internet? :)
[15:32] <bluesabre> send pings at spaced intervals to represent morse code
[15:32] <elfy> tincans and string
[15:33] <bluesabre> nope
[15:33] <bluesabre> $ tincans
[15:33] <bluesabre> tincans: command not found
[15:33] <elfy> :)
[16:39] <ochosi> bluesabre: hm, strange. i guess we can try the XActivateScreenSaver instead of XForceScreenSaver
[16:40] <ochosi> but either way, this is a standard xlib call, not sure what could be wrong with that
[16:40] <ochosi> also, that issue seems to have been reported in trusty already (going away for a longer period of time)
[16:40] <ochosi> is the screen really off or just black but with backlight?
[16:41] <ochosi> if it's off, then it's DPMS, not the stuff we added in the greeter
[16:41] <ochosi> (i guess nobody previously tested sessions sitting at the greeter for longer)
[17:06] <bluesabre> oh, this definitely was not a problem for me with trusty
[17:14] <bluesabre> I'll try a different video driver to see if that makes a difference