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ScottKRiddell: pykde5 packages: https://launchpad.net/~kubuntu-ppa/+archive/ubuntu/next/+sourcepub/4346355/+listing-archive-extra03:52
ScottKRiddell: Also, two review requests that someone (maybe you) might commit: https://git.reviewboard.kde.org/r/119704/ and https://git.reviewboard.kde.org/r/119705/03:53
seaLneupgrading to the 4.13.97 packages in trusty this morning resulted in http://paste.kde.org/palqhclfs an apt-get -f install looks like its fixed it08:41
seaLnewell after that the dist-upgrade then complained about kmail requiring another apt-get -f install before finally finishing08:46
Riddellum, wibble08:46
Riddellthere's a file overwrite issue in kmail I need to fix08:47
Riddellbut that's a bit bigger08:47
RiddellI tested with kubuntu-desktop installed08:47
Riddellguess I need to test with kde-full and other bits installed08:47
seaLnecalligrastage-data was also left behind when that uninstalled calligra08:49
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santamorning09:27
santaRiddell: hi, do you remember all that faulty wrap-and-sort's which removed some -dev packages?09:28
santaI found out by accident whats wrong -> using " \n" instead of plain "\n" to separate paragraphs09:29
yofelthere's even a bug report for that09:29
santathat confuses python-debian and wrap-and-sort09:30
yofelagainst python-debian IIRC09:30
santaindeed09:30
santawe can workaround it tough09:30
Riddellsanta: ah hah09:33
santaso I'm sending a couple of merge requests to make the wrap-and-sort safe while the bug doesn't get fixed09:34
santaalso it will be very convenient for me in siduction, since I'm dealing with the packages with python-debian09:35
soeeis there some info @ plasma 5.0.1 ?09:52
Riddellhttp://qa.kubuntu.co.uk/plasma-status/build_status_5.0.1_utopic.html09:56
santaRiddell: merge requests sent, if I'm not mistaken only 3 source packages from frameworks affected, none from plasma09:56
santayofel: if you have the bug report of python debian at hand, it would be nice to have a link to post my findings09:57
Riddellthanks09:58
yofelsanta: debian 65598810:09
ubottuDebian bug 655988 in src:python-debian "python-debian: deb822 wrong result when space in newline after paragraph" [Normal,Open] http://bugs.debian.org/65598810:09
yofelsanta: also watch out for debian 74317410:10
ubottuDebian bug 743174 in python-debian "paragraph parsing truncates on comments" [Normal,Open] http://bugs.debian.org/74317410:10
Riddellmarkey: do you know if there's any plans to replace nepomuk in amarok with baloo?10:20
markeyRiddell: yes I think that would make sense10:20
Riddellmarkey: at the moment I'm removing nepomuk from the package as it doesn't exist any more, is that going to break lots of things?10:21
santayofel: ah, they already know its for the spaces, let's see if they fix it, then. thank you for the links :)10:21
markeyRiddell: not going to break anything of importance. I think you could go ahead10:22
Riddell212312312311:56
Riddellmeh11:56
valoriewho's phone number?11:58
valorieoops11:58
valoriewhose11:58
Riddellnobody's just this silly router half dropping connections 12:03
Riddelland me typing away in frustration12:03
valoriesounds like what we are experiencing here12:08
valorieperhaps the whole internet is sick12:08
BluesKaj'Morning12:26
apacheloggersdfghjkl13:27
apacheloggerwho the bloody fing hell put a beta release in the fing backports ppa13:27
Mamarokheja, guys, shouldn't be the 4.13.97 release be in beta instead of backports?13:27
* Mamarok putting things a bit more diplomatical than what Harald just did :)13:27
RiddellMamarok: that might have been me13:28
apacheloggermight fine job there13:29
apachelogger*mighty13:29
RiddellMamarok: do you think you can keep harald from eating me?13:29
Mamarokhe just had lunch, no wirries13:29
Mamarokworries*13:29
Mamarokand I still have some chocolate at hand for the worst case :)13:29
soee_broken http://qa.kubuntu.co.uk/plasma-status/build_status_5.0.1_utopic.html13:29
Riddellsoee_: should be fixed in a minute13:30
soee_:D13:30
RiddellMamarok: yeah but there's another two days until 4.14 appears and the mistake will be overwritten and forgotten13:30
Mamaroknot by mighty logger I fear...13:31
Riddellaww look the guy who does http://www.themukt.com/ likes us http://paste.kde.org/p8rcupv9c13:33
valorievery nice13:34
Mamarokyeah, nice one :)13:35
Mamarok/var/cache/apt/archives/khelpcenter4_4%3a4.13.97-0ubuntu1~ubuntu14.04~ppa2_amd64.deb 13:38
Mamaroktrying to overwrite '/usr/share/kde4/apps/khelpcenter/plugins/othercontrolmodules.desktop', which is also in package kde-runtime-data 4:4.13.3-0ubuntu0.113:38
Riddellum, not seen that one13:39
RiddellMamarok: you just doing a dist-upgrade with kubuntu-ppa/backports enabled?13:40
Mamaroknot a dist upgrade, just a plain upgrade13:40
Mamarokerror message made by muon package manager13:40
OdurHeh, I just wondered if I had enabled beta backports by mistake, then I checked here :)14:43
RiddellOdur: any issues with it besides being in the wrong place?14:44
OdurRiddell: Haven't tried it yet.14:45
RiddellOdur: have you installed it?14:46
OdurRiddell: Nope. I just saw the upgrade notice14:46
Mamarokworks fine, the error was corrected with -f15:18
RiddellMamarok: still I'll put in a replaces/breaks to stop future issues, thanks for notifying15:20
Riddellallee: did you do your digikam merge request?15:34
soee_woho almost all green :)15:45
soee_someone on plasma5 atm? want to ask about one thing15:53
soee_we have systray, with arrow icon to show more options (Status and notifications etc.), now thers some 'lag' with icons when opening this widget - we see widget opened and the icons shows up sometimes with a small delay15:55
soee_probably when opening first time this widgert after reboot, shouldnt they (icons) be cached somehow to prevent this 'lag' ?15:55
RiddellseaLne: calligra was getting removed because there's a library that changed version plus it depends on nepomuk which is dead, I'm backporting it but as usual it's taking ages16:58
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soee_Riddell: will you release 5.0.1 today for tests?18:34
kdeuser56apachelogger: nice work! http://apachelog.wordpress.com/2014/08/11/volume/19:50
kdeuser56apachelogger: is this supposed to be merged with kmix? or does it replace kmix? 19:51
soee_btw kubuntu 14.10 will ship pulseaudio 5 ?19:52
kdeuser56soee_: good question ... does not yet look like it19:55
soee_what holds it back ?19:56
kdeuser56i don't know19:56
soee_:)19:56
kdeuser56soee_: but you could try https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-audio-dev/+archive/ubuntu/pulse-testing19:56
soee_oh interesting19:57
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shadeslayerpsht, who needs PA, we can just cat to /dev/snd20:11
shadeslayerapachelogger: ^^ you should make phonon read from /dev/snd20:11
shadeslayerand write to /dev/snd20:11
kdeuser56shadeslayer: I hope you are joking :D20:25
alleeRiddell: no merge request yet. Had no time  over the weekend.  Started again right now ...20:56
DarkwingHey claydoh21:09
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alleeshadeslayer: what's the naming convention for a debian/patches/  diff that is takens from upstream git (i.e. can be dropped after next release)21:37
alleeand described in a b.k.o report21:38
shadeslayerallee: upstream_foo_bar_unicorns.patch21:50
alleeshadeslayer: thx21:50
claydohhey Darkwing sorry for the late pong22:23
shadeslayerkdeuser56: I wasn't22:38
shadeslayerapachelogger: btw thoughts on proposing policy around experimental libs?22:38
kdeuser56shadeslayer:serously?22:38
shadeslayerits' the one true way22:39
apacheloggershadeslayer: go ahead?22:43
shadeslayerapachelogger: policy stuff? yeah, will do tomorrow morning22:43
shadeslayerwritten down22:43
shadeslayerETOODRUNK22:44
apacheloggerI am writing the shittiest code in a long time22:45
apacheloggerwell22:45
apacheloggerI am copying the shittiest code around22:45
shadeslayeris that because you're not sufficiently drunk22:46
shadeslayermmm breakpad has no package22:46
shadeslayeroh oh 22:49
shadeslayersomeone did a blog post22:49
shadeslayeron Breakpad and Qt22:49
apacheloggershadeslayer: wanna refactor me code?22:51
shadeslayerno22:51
shadeslayerbreakpadding22:51
apacheloggerI now can move a bar in dragon through my code22:52
apacheloggerit's sorcery I say22:52
apacheloggershadeslayer: breaking pad22:52
shadeslayeryes22:55
shadeslayerapachelogger: are my glasses downstairs22:59
shadeslayerI can't see them hee22:59
shadeslayer*here22:59
shadeslayeroh nvm22:59
shadeslayertangled in wires22:59
kdeuser56apachelogger: is your audio plasma applet now supposed to replace kmix?23:05
kdeuser56apachelogger: volume, sorry23:06
apacheloggerwho knows23:10
apacheloggershadeslayer: don't see them23:10
shadeslayerapachelogger: found them23:10
shadeslayernvm23:10
apacheloggershadeslayer: scru u23:11
kdeuser56apachelogger: you should know if you feel like further extending your work ...23:12
apacheloggerI should?23:12
kdeuser56apachelogger: you coded this ... right?23:12
apacheloggerso?23:13
shadeslayerno u23:13
kdeuser56apachelogger: so you have a plan, no?23:13
apacheloggershadeslayer: tell alex that I'll look into other things on my todo tomorrow23:13
shadeslayerapachelogger: tell him yourself, he's angry at me23:13
shadeslayerfor catching something23:13
apacheloggerno one likes a smartass :P23:14
shadeslayeror well, I think he's angry at me23:14
shadeslayerno shit23:14
apacheloggergive him a hug, surely that will help23:14
shadeslayerwhy do you think I hate you23:14
apachelogger:O23:14
apacheloggerwhy now I am angry at u 223:14
kdeuser56apachelogger: it would be pretty cool to see this further developed and support more advanced actions like moving sinks 23:15
shadeslayergood23:15
shadeslayerthat way no one talks to me23:15
shadeslayerand I win23:15
shadeslayer\o/23:15
* apachelogger doesn't think anyone ever anywhere should support moving sinks23:16
* sithlord48 supports moving of sinks.23:17
kdeuser56apachelogger: sorry I meant redirecting audio ... like for example you can redirect shound from your browser to your microphone input23:17
kdeuser56apachelogger: that way one could easily share stuff with friends when chatting with them at the same time23:17
* apachelogger supports moving computers up and down the stairs23:17
sithlord48this is why i am forced to use veromix  instead of kmix would love to see support for that in next kde mixer when using pulse or any sound system where you can do it.23:18
kdeuser56apachelogger: this is really easy to achive with pulseaudio23:18
kdeuser56apachelogger: thing is how to expose pulseaudio in a sensible way in a system tray applet23:20
apacheloggerwrite a thread on forum.kde.org23:20
kdeuser56apachelogger: would you read it?23:20
apacheloggersure23:21
kdeuser56I find the following question very interesting for example: http://askubuntu.com/questions/421014/share-an-audio-playback-stream-through-a-live-audio-video-conversation-like-sk23:21
kdeuser56apachelogger: ok, I will do so after sleeping a few hours, will ping you about it ... any objections if I use the visual design groups forum?23:22
apachelogger*shrug*23:22
apacheloggermight as well I guess23:22
apacheloggerat the end of the day VD decides what goes where or not anyway23:23
kdeuser56yeah thing is to be powerful and useable at the same time ... 23:23
* kdeuser56 is going to sleep now, will ping apachelogger in a few hours23:24
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