[03:52] <ScottK> Riddell: pykde5 packages: https://launchpad.net/~kubuntu-ppa/+archive/ubuntu/next/+sourcepub/4346355/+listing-archive-extra
[03:53] <ScottK> Riddell: Also, two review requests that someone (maybe you) might commit: https://git.reviewboard.kde.org/r/119704/ and https://git.reviewboard.kde.org/r/119705/
[08:41] <seaLne> upgrading to the 4.13.97 packages in trusty this morning resulted in http://paste.kde.org/palqhclfs an apt-get -f install looks like its fixed it
[08:46] <seaLne> well after that the dist-upgrade then complained about kmail requiring another apt-get -f install before finally finishing
[08:46] <Riddell> um, wibble
[08:47] <Riddell> there's a file overwrite issue in kmail I need to fix
[08:47] <Riddell> but that's a bit bigger
[08:47] <Riddell> I tested with kubuntu-desktop installed
[08:47] <Riddell> guess I need to test with kde-full and other bits installed
[08:49] <seaLne> calligrastage-data was also left behind when that uninstalled calligra
[09:27] <santa> morning
[09:28] <santa> Riddell: hi, do you remember all that faulty wrap-and-sort's which removed some -dev packages?
[09:29] <santa> I found out by accident whats wrong -> using " \n" instead of plain "\n" to separate paragraphs
[09:29] <yofel> there's even a bug report for that
[09:30] <santa> that confuses python-debian and wrap-and-sort
[09:30] <yofel> against python-debian IIRC
[09:30] <santa> indeed
[09:30] <santa> we can workaround it tough
[09:33] <Riddell> santa: ah hah
[09:34] <santa> so I'm sending a couple of merge requests to make the wrap-and-sort safe while the bug doesn't get fixed
[09:35] <santa> also it will be very convenient for me in siduction, since I'm dealing with the packages with python-debian
[09:52] <soee> is there some info @ plasma 5.0.1 ?
[09:56] <Riddell> http://qa.kubuntu.co.uk/plasma-status/build_status_5.0.1_utopic.html
[09:56] <santa> Riddell: merge requests sent, if I'm not mistaken only 3 source packages from frameworks affected, none from plasma
[09:57] <santa> yofel: if you have the bug report of python debian at hand, it would be nice to have a link to post my findings
[09:58] <Riddell> thanks
[10:09] <yofel> santa: debian 655988
[10:10] <yofel> santa: also watch out for debian 743174
[10:20] <Riddell> markey: do you know if there's any plans to replace nepomuk in amarok with baloo?
[10:20] <markey> Riddell: yes I think that would make sense
[10:21] <Riddell> markey: at the moment I'm removing nepomuk from the package as it doesn't exist any more, is that going to break lots of things?
[10:21] <santa> yofel: ah, they already know its for the spaces, let's see if they fix it, then. thank you for the links :)
[10:22] <markey> Riddell: not going to break anything of importance. I think you could go ahead
[11:56] <Riddell> 2123123123
[11:56] <Riddell> meh
[11:58] <valorie> who's phone number?
[11:58] <valorie> oops
[11:58] <valorie> whose
[12:03] <Riddell> nobody's just this silly router half dropping connections 
[12:03] <Riddell> and me typing away in frustration
[12:08] <valorie> sounds like what we are experiencing here
[12:08] <valorie> perhaps the whole internet is sick
[12:26] <BluesKaj> 'Morning
[13:27] <apachelogger> sdfghjkl
[13:27] <apachelogger> who the bloody fing hell put a beta release in the fing backports ppa
[13:27] <Mamarok> heja, guys, shouldn't be the 4.13.97 release be in beta instead of backports?
[13:27]  * Mamarok putting things a bit more diplomatical than what Harald just did :)
[13:28] <Riddell> Mamarok: that might have been me
[13:29] <apachelogger> might fine job there
[13:29] <apachelogger> *mighty
[13:29] <Riddell> Mamarok: do you think you can keep harald from eating me?
[13:29] <Mamarok> he just had lunch, no wirries
[13:29] <Mamarok> worries*
[13:29] <Mamarok> and I still have some chocolate at hand for the worst case :)
[13:29] <soee_> broken http://qa.kubuntu.co.uk/plasma-status/build_status_5.0.1_utopic.html
[13:30] <Riddell> soee_: should be fixed in a minute
[13:30] <soee_> :D
[13:30] <Riddell> Mamarok: yeah but there's another two days until 4.14 appears and the mistake will be overwritten and forgotten
[13:31] <Mamarok> not by mighty logger I fear...
[13:33] <Riddell> aww look the guy who does http://www.themukt.com/ likes us http://paste.kde.org/p8rcupv9c
[13:34] <valorie> very nice
[13:35] <Mamarok> yeah, nice one :)
[13:38] <Mamarok> /var/cache/apt/archives/khelpcenter4_4%3a4.13.97-0ubuntu1~ubuntu14.04~ppa2_amd64.deb 
[13:38] <Mamarok> trying to overwrite '/usr/share/kde4/apps/khelpcenter/plugins/othercontrolmodules.desktop', which is also in package kde-runtime-data 4:4.13.3-0ubuntu0.1
[13:39] <Riddell> um, not seen that one
[13:40] <Riddell> Mamarok: you just doing a dist-upgrade with kubuntu-ppa/backports enabled?
[13:40] <Mamarok> not a dist upgrade, just a plain upgrade
[13:40] <Mamarok> error message made by muon package manager
[14:43] <Odur> Heh, I just wondered if I had enabled beta backports by mistake, then I checked here :)
[14:44] <Riddell> Odur: any issues with it besides being in the wrong place?
[14:45] <Odur> Riddell: Haven't tried it yet.
[14:46] <Riddell> Odur: have you installed it?
[14:46] <Odur> Riddell: Nope. I just saw the upgrade notice
[15:18] <Mamarok> works fine, the error was corrected with -f
[15:20] <Riddell> Mamarok: still I'll put in a replaces/breaks to stop future issues, thanks for notifying
[15:34] <Riddell> allee: did you do your digikam merge request?
[15:45] <soee_> woho almost all green :)
[15:53] <soee_> someone on plasma5 atm? want to ask about one thing
[15:55] <soee_> we have systray, with arrow icon to show more options (Status and notifications etc.), now thers some 'lag' with icons when opening this widget - we see widget opened and the icons shows up sometimes with a small delay
[15:55] <soee_> probably when opening first time this widgert after reboot, shouldnt they (icons) be cached somehow to prevent this 'lag' ?
[16:58] <Riddell> seaLne: calligra was getting removed because there's a library that changed version plus it depends on nepomuk which is dead, I'm backporting it but as usual it's taking ages
[16:58]  * Riddell out
[18:34] <soee_> Riddell: will you release 5.0.1 today for tests?
[19:50] <kdeuser56> apachelogger: nice work! http://apachelog.wordpress.com/2014/08/11/volume/
[19:51] <kdeuser56> apachelogger: is this supposed to be merged with kmix? or does it replace kmix? 
[19:52] <soee_> btw kubuntu 14.10 will ship pulseaudio 5 ?
[19:55] <kdeuser56> soee_: good question ... does not yet look like it
[19:56] <soee_> what holds it back ?
[19:56] <kdeuser56> i don't know
[19:56] <soee_> :)
[19:56] <kdeuser56> soee_: but you could try https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-audio-dev/+archive/ubuntu/pulse-testing
[19:57] <soee_> oh interesting
[20:11] <shadeslayer> psht, who needs PA, we can just cat to /dev/snd
[20:11] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: ^^ you should make phonon read from /dev/snd
[20:11] <shadeslayer> and write to /dev/snd
[20:25] <kdeuser56> shadeslayer: I hope you are joking :D
[20:56] <allee> Riddell: no merge request yet. Had no time  over the weekend.  Started again right now ...
[21:09] <Darkwing> Hey claydoh
[21:37] <allee> shadeslayer: what's the naming convention for a debian/patches/  diff that is takens from upstream git (i.e. can be dropped after next release)
[21:38] <allee> and described in a b.k.o report
[21:50] <shadeslayer> allee: upstream_foo_bar_unicorns.patch
[21:50] <allee> shadeslayer: thx
[22:23] <claydoh> hey Darkwing sorry for the late pong
[22:38] <shadeslayer> kdeuser56: I wasn't
[22:38] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: btw thoughts on proposing policy around experimental libs?
[22:38] <kdeuser56> shadeslayer:serously?
[22:39] <shadeslayer> its' the one true way
[22:43] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: go ahead?
[22:43] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: policy stuff? yeah, will do tomorrow morning
[22:43] <shadeslayer> written down
[22:44] <shadeslayer> ETOODRUNK
[22:45] <apachelogger> I am writing the shittiest code in a long time
[22:45] <apachelogger> well
[22:45] <apachelogger> I am copying the shittiest code around
[22:46] <shadeslayer> is that because you're not sufficiently drunk
[22:46] <shadeslayer> mmm breakpad has no package
[22:49] <shadeslayer> oh oh 
[22:49] <shadeslayer> someone did a blog post
[22:49] <shadeslayer> on Breakpad and Qt
[22:51] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: wanna refactor me code?
[22:51] <shadeslayer> no
[22:51] <shadeslayer> breakpadding
[22:52] <apachelogger> I now can move a bar in dragon through my code
[22:52] <apachelogger> it's sorcery I say
[22:52] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: breaking pad
[22:55] <shadeslayer> yes
[22:59] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: are my glasses downstairs
[22:59] <shadeslayer> I can't see them hee
[22:59] <shadeslayer> *here
[22:59] <shadeslayer> oh nvm
[22:59] <shadeslayer> tangled in wires
[23:05] <kdeuser56> apachelogger: is your audio plasma applet now supposed to replace kmix?
[23:06] <kdeuser56> apachelogger: volume, sorry
[23:10] <apachelogger> who knows
[23:10] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: don't see them
[23:10] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: found them
[23:10] <shadeslayer> nvm
[23:11] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: scru u
[23:12] <kdeuser56> apachelogger: you should know if you feel like further extending your work ...
[23:12] <apachelogger> I should?
[23:12] <kdeuser56> apachelogger: you coded this ... right?
[23:13] <apachelogger> so?
[23:13] <shadeslayer> no u
[23:13] <kdeuser56> apachelogger: so you have a plan, no?
[23:13] <apachelogger> shadeslayer: tell alex that I'll look into other things on my todo tomorrow
[23:13] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: tell him yourself, he's angry at me
[23:13] <shadeslayer> for catching something
[23:14] <apachelogger> no one likes a smartass :P
[23:14] <shadeslayer> or well, I think he's angry at me
[23:14] <shadeslayer> no shit
[23:14] <apachelogger> give him a hug, surely that will help
[23:14] <shadeslayer> why do you think I hate you
[23:14] <apachelogger> :O
[23:14] <apachelogger> why now I am angry at u 2
[23:15] <kdeuser56> apachelogger: it would be pretty cool to see this further developed and support more advanced actions like moving sinks 
[23:15] <shadeslayer> good
[23:15] <shadeslayer> that way no one talks to me
[23:15] <shadeslayer> and I win
[23:15] <shadeslayer> \o/
[23:16]  * apachelogger doesn't think anyone ever anywhere should support moving sinks
[23:17]  * sithlord48 supports moving of sinks.
[23:17] <kdeuser56> apachelogger: sorry I meant redirecting audio ... like for example you can redirect shound from your browser to your microphone input
[23:17] <kdeuser56> apachelogger: that way one could easily share stuff with friends when chatting with them at the same time
[23:17]  * apachelogger supports moving computers up and down the stairs
[23:18] <sithlord48> this is why i am forced to use veromix  instead of kmix would love to see support for that in next kde mixer when using pulse or any sound system where you can do it.
[23:18] <kdeuser56> apachelogger: this is really easy to achive with pulseaudio
[23:20] <kdeuser56> apachelogger: thing is how to expose pulseaudio in a sensible way in a system tray applet
[23:20] <apachelogger> write a thread on forum.kde.org
[23:20] <kdeuser56> apachelogger: would you read it?
[23:21] <apachelogger> sure
[23:21] <kdeuser56> I find the following question very interesting for example: http://askubuntu.com/questions/421014/share-an-audio-playback-stream-through-a-live-audio-video-conversation-like-sk
[23:22] <kdeuser56> apachelogger: ok, I will do so after sleeping a few hours, will ping you about it ... any objections if I use the visual design groups forum?
[23:22] <apachelogger> *shrug*
[23:22] <apachelogger> might as well I guess
[23:23] <apachelogger> at the end of the day VD decides what goes where or not anyway
[23:23] <kdeuser56> yeah thing is to be powerful and useable at the same time ... 
[23:24]  * kdeuser56 is going to sleep now, will ping apachelogger in a few hours