[00:26] <martin1989> people
[00:26] <martin1989> how can i update my system?
[00:27] <martin1989> i have lubuntu 13.10
[00:27] <martin1989> upgrade i meant
[00:27] <martin1989> upgrade to latest version
[00:29] <absk007> martin1989, sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[00:31] <average_guy> martin1989: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/TrustyUpgrades
[00:33] <average_guy> where it says "Ubuntu Servers" is the way
[00:35] <average_guy> always backup anything important first
[00:39] <Panchito> what version of lubuntu would you recommend for installing on an Asus laptop with an Intel Celeron B830 1.80Ghz with 4Gb ram
[00:42] <Panchito> Is there still someone here who can advise me?
[00:45] <average_guy> If you want lubuntu Panchit, I recommend heading to http://lubuntu.net/ and grabbing the current version.  It will run great on your hardware.
[00:46] <Panchito> Yeah, I was there a moment ago, but there are three choices, and I need to know which to use...
[00:47] <Panchito> Obviously I shouldn't use the one for Macs
[00:47] <Panchito> I have a 64bit intel processor...  Celeron 1.8ghz
[00:48] <average_guy> correct, you want the amd64 desktop
[00:49] <Panchito> Even though it says AMD?
[00:49] <average_guy> yes, I know it's confusing but it IS the one
[00:49] <average_guy> you can run it live and try it out b4 you install also
[00:50] <Panchito> Cool, thanks, AVEGUY!  You're the guy!  How do I run it live?  New to this...
[00:50] <average_guy> just burn to disk or usb, pop it in and fire it up
[00:51] <Panchito> Okay, dude.  Thanks!!!
[12:04] <koell> How do I change the dpi setting in lubuntu? I've a 1920x1080 screen and would like to increase the zoom. It is too small for my eyes atm. :/
[13:13] <holstein> koell: did you try the included display tool? you can also try "arandr"
[13:13] <holstein> !Info arandr
[13:35] <koell> holstein: display tool? i tired the "monitor settings" from lubuntu menu -> preferences
[13:56] <suncokret> is somebody here?
[14:51] <ianorlin> koell: you might also want to try increasing font size
[14:53] <ianorlin> koell you can do that in lxappearance
[14:53] <ianorlin> although that is customize look and feel in the menu
[15:34] <zerothis> how to i tunnel to get websites to desktop without using http ports?
[15:51] <zerothis> afk
[16:43] <Glorfindel> When I try to install from a terminal I get the following: http://paste.ubuntu.com/8018559/
[16:44] <Glorfindel> now I am able to install from the software center but this is faster than finding and adding to the basket and... etc
[17:03] <zerothis> Glorfindel: you have another application open that is designed to install and uninstall software synaptic, gdebi, software update or something like that. Also, another terminal might be in the process of installing or uninstalling.
[17:04] <Glorfindel> no, I have nothing open but the terminal that I know of
[17:04] <Glorfindel> I made sure to close the Software Center first
[17:05] <Glorfindel> Actually it wasn't open until after I tried to use the prompt
[17:05] <zerothis> in terminal type: "sudo killall -9 " without quotes and include the trailing space then press tab twice and say yes. this shows you all of the running processes.
[17:07] <Glorfindel> and supply the sudo password when prompted as well I assume?
[17:07] <zerothis> a gui application can be running and not seeable in gui. very rare cuz Linux is generally not like that, but possible, you closed it but it hung after removing the window and taskbar icon; or likewise is hung when loaded before window and icon were seen. Or it's off screen.
[17:08] <zerothis> yes, any application that can install or uninstall could be hidden from normal users
[17:08] <zerothis> in terminal
[17:09] <Glorfindel> this is what I get http://paste.ubuntu.com/8018760/
[17:10] <Glorfindel> double tab doesn't do anything
[17:11] <zerothis> don't hit enter yet, "sudo killall -9 " then tab, tab, then say yes, then see the list of running processes
[17:11] <Glorfindel> oh, ok
[17:12] <zerothis> In Linux the terminal multitasks also. you can perform operations in the middle of a command
[17:13] <Glorfindel> here it is http://paste.ubuntu.com/8018806/
[17:13] <Glorfindel> Also I do have the SC running right now as well as the updater, these where not running when I tried before however
[17:15] <zerothis> hmm, its got me stumped. I've prayed for your system, that's about all I can think of at this point
[17:16] <Glorfindel> lol ok
[17:16] <Glorfindel> I guess I will just have to live with the GUI one then :)
[17:21] <Glorfindel> thanks for the help :)
[17:39] <krytarik> Glorfindel: Have a look at these two threads - in that order: http://askubuntu.com/questions/407605/how-to-identify-the-process-locking-a-file , http://askubuntu.com/questions/15433/unable-to-lock-the-administration-directory-var-lib-dpkg-is-another-process
[17:41] <Glorfindel> thank you
[17:47] <Glorfindel> aha, in the second one it says "@jaime: probably apt-get (or some GUI frontend to it) was halted while executing, leaving apt in a locked state. –  bouke"
[17:48] <Glorfindel> that did happen, I accidentally closed the Software Center while it was installing something
[17:48] <zerothis> cap problem solved, they don't block ping or ip addresses directly so: ping -c 1 google.com | grep -o '[0-9]\{1,3\}\.[0-9]\{1,3\}\.[0-9]\{1,3\}\.[0-9]\{1,3\}' | google-chrome
[18:32] <absk007_> It's been more than 6 days since running my minilaptop ASUS 1215B continuously with Lubuntu OS.
[19:05] <absk007> How to choose keyboard shortcuts for Openbox?
[19:29] <absk007> which is lightweight Geany or Bluefish? I need a lightweight programming text editor.
[19:30] <absk007> GUI based text editor
[19:31] <phillw> I use Bluefish
[19:35] <absk007> phillw, how much is the download size?
[19:35] <ianorlin> Geany is still pretty light
[19:35] <absk007> ^installed size
[19:36] <ianorlin> absk007: that gets complicated by dependencies
[19:36] <absk007> ianorlin, which is more lighter including dependencies?
[19:38] <ianorlin> the dependenices depend on what is installed I don't know off the top of my head but there is --dry-run for apt-get will tell you installed size but won't install
[19:39] <absk007> ianorlin, doesn't tell the size
[19:39] <phillw> absk007: Download size: 3.7 MB Estimated disk space required: 72 MB
[19:40] <absk007> phillw, nothing like that while in --dry-run
[19:40] <absk007> but i did apt-get install geany & then bluefish and selected "n" and found that bluefish needs 13.7MB disk space and geany 9MB
[19:41] <absk007> phillw, ianorlin, so which one will give more features & start quickly considering their approx. similar sizes.
[19:41] <phillw> i looked on http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/blfs/view/svn/postlfs/bluefish.html I'm guessing *buntu has a lot of the stuff it needs already installed
[19:42]  * ianorlin only used geany but things like this dpened on personal prefrence
[19:42] <absk007> phillw, ianorlin, which is lightweight: geany or bluefish?
[19:42] <phillw> yup, I tried 3 or 4, decided to stick with  bluefish
[19:43]  * silverlion too
[19:43] <silverlion> there is nothing better then bluefish
[19:43] <silverlion> ;)
[19:45] <absk007> i think after these controversies, i will try both & purge the not so fateful one.
[20:09] <absk007> ianorlin, how to choose theme. I've installed monokai.conf
[20:10] <ianorlin> theme for what bluefish?
[20:11] <absk007> ianorlin, no. your fav. geany
[20:44] <Hamish_B> Hi, in lubuntu 14.04 we're trying to associate tiff images with a certain app from a rebuild of the install iso. it seems by mime type but lxsession-default-apps dialog isn't showing me much control or making much sense to me. any tips? /usr/share/ or /etc/xdg ?
[20:46] <Hamish_B> ok, /etc/xdg/lubuntu/applications/default.list looks like the thing
[20:50] <ianorlin> lxsessoin-default apps isn't really for setting mimetypes
[20:50] <ianorlin> can you locate the file in pcmanfm and right click on it?
[20:51] <ianorlin> or will you be doing this a lot?
[21:05] <Hamish_B> I'm trying to set it up for all new users (we make a custom geospatial live dvd built upon lubuntu [http://live.osgeo.org])
[21:06] <Hamish_B> I edited the etc/xdg/.../defaults.list file, hopefully that gets it
[21:10] <koell> I just tried to turn on my 2nd external monitor. I've one connected via VGA, the other one with DVI. I tried to turn on VGA but it doesnt work. Whats going wrong with my setup??
[21:17] <ianorlin> koell is this on a laptop with an internal screen as some older ones don't support 3 displays but have different connectors
[21:18] <ianorlin> or is it  a desktop?
[21:18] <koell> ianorlin: it is a thinkpad r52. it has a x300 ati graphics card. i though i can run both with the dockingstation. as there are vga and dvi as well :/
[21:19] <ianorlin> also if you are using arandr sometimes it needs to be closed and opened again to detect new displays
[21:20] <koell> arandr? im using xrandr all the time. is there something diff with arandr?
[21:20] <ianorlin> no arandr is GUI
[21:20] <ianorlin> for xrandr
[21:21] <koell> okey. i ll look at. do you think there would be an alternative solution to use a vga splitter?
[21:21] <ianorlin> would that have them mirrored though?
[21:22] <koell> idk, i dont want to use mirroring :D
[21:23] <koell> wow arandr is really cool =)
[21:24] <koell> ianorlin: can i get a wider view in arandr? i would like to place my 2nd screen on the left and the other on the right.
[21:25] <koell> oh just resized xD
[21:26] <koell> ianorlin: i just tried to place the third screen and got: XRandR returned error code 1: xrandr: cannot find crtc for output VGA-0
[21:41] <ianorlin> ah yeah you can't have 3 displays then I don't think
[21:49] <koell> why? i also have a intel 915gm. im sad :()