[00:08] skellat: That sucks. [00:08] Unfortunately we're driving down on Friday so Ubucon is likely out for us. [00:09] cmaloney: Yeah, people weren't even interested if we asked for travel & lodging cash to be paid out of Canonical Community Budget for them. I would have pushed hard for that and even then bupkis. [00:11] I get to hone my skills for apologizing tonight during the OLF planning meeting I think. I've been doing such a great job as an apologist on the telephone for $FederalAgency until I hit furlough. [00:11] skellat: It's a useful skill. :) [00:12] btw: is Ohio planning on having a booth at OLF? [00:13] cmaloney: I don't think so. There are no free booths anymore and the cost for the booth alone is high along with how long it takes me to get to Columbus cost-wise. [00:14] I'd have to get money out of Canonical Community Budget for it and I don't have enough people to staff it. [00:14] skellat: Understandable [00:14] That's partly why I wanted to offer our resources [00:14] I know we're both hurting for people now that Ubuntu is no longer the cool kid in town. :) [00:15] For me to go down is akin to a trip from Utica to middle of the mitten [00:16] s/Utica/Rochester Hills/ [00:16] ROchester -> Lansing. :) [00:17] I was thinking in terms of distance. I've done the trip from Rochester up to Central Michigan University and back in...January 2002, I think [00:17] That was back during undergrad at Rochester College [00:18] Ashtabula to Columbus is not a fun trip [00:19] cmaloney: I need to go take care of some things but I'll wing you an e-mail after the OLF planning meeting tonight [00:19] sounds good. Take care and TTYL! [14:19] Good morning [14:22] Hello [14:24] how are you today? [14:25] brb, diaper duty... [14:25] Enjoy. :) [14:25] Having a less diaper-filled day so far. [14:29] Back. That wasn't too bad. [14:29] I was wondering if any knows of a linux expo held in michigan? [14:29] I used to live in Los Angeles and attended SCALE [14:30] Was wondering if anything like that existed here? [14:55] PhillyMelt02: Closest would be Ohio Linuxfest which is a regional conference. [14:55] http://ohiolinux.org [14:55] http://goo.gl/ielN4 - Ohio LinuxFest 2014 - The Future of Free | Free and Open Software Conference and Expo - Columbus, Ohio - October 24-26, 2014 [15:02] Thanks. I'll have to check it out. Was hoping one would be a little closer to home but it is doable. [15:03] We do have a local Linux / UNIX users group in the area as well [15:03] http://mug.org [15:03] http://goo.gl/XzBZ0f - Michigan!/usr/group | mug.org – A Michigan-based Linux and UNIX Free and Open Source Community [15:03] August meeting is tomorrow night [15:05] PhillyMelt02: could you describe SCALE? [15:06] http://www.socallinuxexpo.org [15:06] http://goo.gl/IaJ5tP - SCALE 12x [15:06] It was a multi-day event with exhibitors and speakers covering a wide range of topics. [15:07] penguicon! [15:08] SCALE was cool because you were free to attend the sessions/speakers you wanted without too much hassle. No additional fees/registration required. [15:08] sounds like you should start one here. [15:10] From what I saw at SCALE it takes a monumental effort of many dedicated people. I unfortunately don't have the time to take on something that ambitious. [15:15] Yeah, apparently MUG tried one back in the old days [15:15] It is still spoken of in hushed tones. [15:16] and regarded as a "we won't be doing that again" [15:16] event [15:18] That is too bad. Hopefully MUG may change its mind in the future. [15:23] This is a long, long time ago. Back when big iron roamed the earth [15:24] I'm one of the current MUG board members as well. [15:35] Cool. Thank you for volunteering your time. [15:36] Mug has been around for a long time. I think MUG tried it in the mid 90s [15:36] MUG has evolved nicely too. I remember around '00 they really were a unix group wiht not much linux focus. Lots of SCO people there. [15:37] jrwren: Funny enough they're cleaning out one of the storage closets at work. They unearthed a SCO box [15:37] I asked if I could take it to the shooting range. [15:37] * cmaloney doesn't even normally shoot. [15:41] I'm sorry, I'm not familiar with the term SCO [15:42] SCO was one of the first and most successful PC-based UNIX distributions [15:42] PhillyMelt02: SCO was a popular unix in the 80s and 90s. Linux ate its lunch [15:42] Ahh. I wasn't introduced to unix/linux until I attended college in 2002. [15:42] Unfortunately someone bought the name and IP and decided the best way to compete was to litigate [15:43] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Santa_Cruz_Operation#Asset_sale [15:43] http://goo.gl/MRpse - Santa Cruz Operation - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia [15:43] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_SCO_Group [15:43] http://goo.gl/VH8mjF - SCO Group - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia [15:44] Which is sad because Caldera was pretty nice. [15:46] Are the MUG meetings open to non-members? I see there is a scheduled meeting tomorrow in Farmington Hills. [15:46] Yep. Free as in beer as well [15:46] PhillyMelt02: there are literally countless user group meetings in the area. [15:47] Well, there's two major ones [15:47] MUG and MDLUG [15:47] PhillyMelt02: tonight is SEMJS in Ann Arbor, even if you don't use JS much, 100ish smart people go there for meet and greet. [15:51] Thank you for the invitation. Unfortunately with my work schedule and the time to get to A2 I won't make it. [15:51] I went to UM in A2 so it would be nice to get back there for a visit. [15:51] Does SEMJS have regular monthly meetings? [15:51] yes. [15:51] see SEMJS on meetup.com [15:52] Where is your work? [15:53] I work from my home about 1.5 hours east of A2. [15:53] I do data entry/update for an investment management firm [15:53] So my work begins at 4PM when the stock market closes [15:53] ah. There are many detroit area groups. [15:54] http://www.meetup.com/cities/us/mi/detroit/tech/ [15:54] Mobile Monday and Detroit Craftsman Build are particularlly good AFAIK [15:55] oh, and API Craft - they meet Thursday [15:56] Thanks for all the info. [15:56] I have been wanted to get involved for awhile. [19:11] .np squeekyhoho [19:11] squeekyhoho's current track - Вторжение by Invisible Devastation on ID EP [19:21] cmaloney: I think I need to study defense or opening moves next. I feel like I'm flopping around blindly with those [19:21] brousch: You too? :) [19:21] This is definietly a game that rewards patience. [19:22] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Go_opening_theory [19:22] http://goo.gl/M0yuvR - Go opening theory - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia [20:48] Well, driving home was fun [21:05] did you try it with your eyes closed? [21:44] back in 'merica [23:28] brousch: No, but we drove in this wet mess down to Dearborn [23:28] many flooded roads [23:30] How does a wet mess compare to a hot mess? [23:34] a wet mess has a lot more cleanup [23:58] Robin Williams died :( [23:58] I found out because I just got a text from a coworker "Cluster is having load issues, mostly under control" [23:58] got online to learn it was due to his death (and the resulting spike in usage on WP) [23:58] same thing happened for Michael Jackson