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skellatwx KCMH00:02
* skellat slaps jenni00:02
jrgiffordI shrug.00:03
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skellatYes, we will not be presenting UbuCon at OLF 201402:39
skellatYes, I just found out that there is shockingly no Ubuntu-related content even proposed for presentation at OLF 201402:40
skellatI will be writing more about this later on Monday02:40
belkinsaIt's a shame that the USA LoCo's are dieing or dead.13:07
belkinsaSigh.13:07
yanoaww14:01
belkinsaThough I might try something in a few weeks once school starts.14:07
dzhoLoCo was always an awkward fit for the US, seems to me, since a lot of the focus of the effort originally was localization, and localization for the big English-speaking countries, while still a necessary job, isn't nearly so big a job relative to population size as it might be for less-commonly used languages.16:02
* dzho wonders about a compare-contrast with locos in .ca, .uk, .au, .nz, .za, .sg . . . 16:03
belkinsaWell, what I think what the English-speaking ones are meant for is to socialize and see what others are doing.  But it seems not.16:03
belkinsadzho, that would be wrothwhile do that.16:03
dzhomy hope was that it would form as an umbrella 501(c)3 but that hope was dashed early on.16:03
dzholocal FLOSS/LUGs still sort of struggle along with out much organizational support at all.16:04
dzhoI think there's a perception, perhaps a subconscious one even, that the corporate calvary had arrived and that Everything Would Be OK Now with regard to Linux/FLOSS support and promotion.16:05
dzhoand I really don't think that's true.  FLOSS/Linux is still way outgunned in terms of promotion and support and organization.16:06
dzhoit's a different facet of tragedy-of-the-commons from what's happened with eg OpenSSL16:07
thafreakI dunno...I keep using ubunt16:11
thafreakbut I don't feel like talking about ubuntu16:11
dzhobelkinsa: And while I think that's true, one might read that as me "blaming" Canonical or something, but that's not how I see it.  I think Canonical is in the same tough situation Microsoft is in, with the move of consumer devices from desktop+laptop to phone+tablet16:11
belkinsaIt's starting to happen to me too...16:11
thafreakEvery time i go to a meetup, people just want to talk about deskop choices and talk about how they like this UI or hate that one16:11
dzhothafreak: yeah, I've never been that intense about Ubuntu as such, but that seems to have been what the whole structure of the LoCo wanted from us.16:12
thafreakeveryone seems focused on the desktop though16:12
dzhothafreak: everyone16:12
dzho?16:12
dzhoyou mean, everyone in LoCos?16:12
thafreakI've not been to a meeting where people talked about juju or MAAS or anything cool16:12
dzhoah16:12
thafreakyeah sorry16:13
thafreakSo I stopped going to things...I now focus on groups like devops meetings16:13
thafreakwhere they're not necessarily ubuntu people, but atleast they don't talk about desktops all day16:13
dzhothafreak: devopscle?16:13
dzhoany others?16:13
thafreakAnd I'm only really an ubuntu user because debian propper tends to not work for me16:14
thafreakyeah, devopscle16:14
thafreakI'm also trying to make it to more programming meetups too16:14
thafreakI was just setting up a new VM to use as sort of the place where I ssh to from anywhere16:15
thafreakwhere I write code, run tmux, irssi, all the stuff from16:15
thafreakWent with jessie initially...ended up re-installing and going with trusty16:15
thafreakI use NFS for my home dir, jessie was hanging on reboot16:16
thafreakI spent a few hours trying to figure out what was wrong, then got pissed and re-installed trusty16:16
thafreakI just wanted things to work as expected16:16
thafreakNow, it was a minor problem, everything else worked fine...and I don't really reboot the machine ever16:17
thafreakbut still16:17
thafreakI didn't like that it would hang indefinitely on reboot16:17
thafreakalso, it hung for like a minute on boot "populating /dev"...trusty didn't16:17
thafreakbut, that's where I come from...loco's don't really suite me. I don't tend to meet people who use NFS for their home dir :)16:18
Unit193skellat: Re; Email.  Care to take?   I believe you know more of the possible speakers than I did.20:12
cyberangerpossible speakers...20:16
Unit193Yeah, they'd like a list of speakers/presentations that we were able to come up with.20:17
cyberangerskellat: and I should be on that list afaik20:20
Unit193Great!20:21
skellatJob opening in Cleveland if anybody is interested: https://www.usajobs.gov/GetJob/ViewDetails/37786020022:05
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