[00:02] wx KCMH [00:02] * skellat slaps jenni [00:03] I shrug. === ChanServ changed the topic of #ubuntu-us-oh to: The IRC home of Ubuntu Ohio! | General Technical Support is **NOT** offered here. Please consult #ubuntu #xubuntu #kubuntu #lubuntu #ubuntu-gnome #edubuntu #ubuntustudio or #ubuntu+1 instead | Severe Weather Alerts in ##weather-us-oh | Verified until 2015-11-19 | Not only no UbuCon but there were no "general call" proposals to talk Ubuntu for OLF 2014 [02:39] Yes, we will not be presenting UbuCon at OLF 2014 [02:40] Yes, I just found out that there is shockingly no Ubuntu-related content even proposed for presentation at OLF 2014 [02:40] I will be writing more about this later on Monday [13:07] It's a shame that the USA LoCo's are dieing or dead. [13:07] Sigh. [14:01] aww [14:07] Though I might try something in a few weeks once school starts. [16:02] LoCo was always an awkward fit for the US, seems to me, since a lot of the focus of the effort originally was localization, and localization for the big English-speaking countries, while still a necessary job, isn't nearly so big a job relative to population size as it might be for less-commonly used languages. [16:03] * dzho wonders about a compare-contrast with locos in .ca, .uk, .au, .nz, .za, .sg . . . [16:03] Well, what I think what the English-speaking ones are meant for is to socialize and see what others are doing. But it seems not. [16:03] dzho, that would be wrothwhile do that. [16:03] my hope was that it would form as an umbrella 501(c)3 but that hope was dashed early on. [16:04] local FLOSS/LUGs still sort of struggle along with out much organizational support at all. [16:05] I think there's a perception, perhaps a subconscious one even, that the corporate calvary had arrived and that Everything Would Be OK Now with regard to Linux/FLOSS support and promotion. [16:06] and I really don't think that's true. FLOSS/Linux is still way outgunned in terms of promotion and support and organization. [16:07] it's a different facet of tragedy-of-the-commons from what's happened with eg OpenSSL [16:11] I dunno...I keep using ubunt [16:11] but I don't feel like talking about ubuntu [16:11] belkinsa: And while I think that's true, one might read that as me "blaming" Canonical or something, but that's not how I see it. I think Canonical is in the same tough situation Microsoft is in, with the move of consumer devices from desktop+laptop to phone+tablet [16:11] It's starting to happen to me too... [16:11] Every time i go to a meetup, people just want to talk about deskop choices and talk about how they like this UI or hate that one [16:12] thafreak: yeah, I've never been that intense about Ubuntu as such, but that seems to have been what the whole structure of the LoCo wanted from us. [16:12] everyone seems focused on the desktop though [16:12] thafreak: everyone [16:12] ? [16:12] you mean, everyone in LoCos? [16:12] I've not been to a meeting where people talked about juju or MAAS or anything cool [16:12] ah [16:13] yeah sorry [16:13] So I stopped going to things...I now focus on groups like devops meetings [16:13] where they're not necessarily ubuntu people, but atleast they don't talk about desktops all day [16:13] thafreak: devopscle? [16:13] any others? [16:14] And I'm only really an ubuntu user because debian propper tends to not work for me [16:14] yeah, devopscle [16:14] I'm also trying to make it to more programming meetups too [16:15] I was just setting up a new VM to use as sort of the place where I ssh to from anywhere [16:15] where I write code, run tmux, irssi, all the stuff from [16:15] Went with jessie initially...ended up re-installing and going with trusty [16:16] I use NFS for my home dir, jessie was hanging on reboot [16:16] I spent a few hours trying to figure out what was wrong, then got pissed and re-installed trusty [16:16] I just wanted things to work as expected [16:17] Now, it was a minor problem, everything else worked fine...and I don't really reboot the machine ever [16:17] but still [16:17] I didn't like that it would hang indefinitely on reboot [16:17] also, it hung for like a minute on boot "populating /dev"...trusty didn't [16:18] but, that's where I come from...loco's don't really suite me. I don't tend to meet people who use NFS for their home dir :) [20:12] skellat: Re; Email. Care to take? I believe you know more of the possible speakers than I did. [20:16] possible speakers... [20:17] Yeah, they'd like a list of speakers/presentations that we were able to come up with. [20:20] skellat: and I should be on that list afaik [20:21] Great! [22:05] Job opening in Cleveland if anybody is interested: https://www.usajobs.gov/GetJob/ViewDetails/377860200 [22:05] [ USAJOBS - Search Jobs ] - https://j.mp/1uknb8M [23:15] Hello everyone.