[02:32] <Kilos> sjoe
[06:26] <Squirm> morning
[06:28] <ThatGraemeGuy> morning Squirm, everyone
[06:30] <mazal> Morning everyone
[06:33] <ThatGraemeGuy> hey mazal 
[06:48] <superfly> ohi
[06:58] <bduk1> More almal
[06:58] <ThatGraemeGuy> 'lo superfly, bduk1 
[06:58] <ThatGraemeGuy> anyone else using kde+quassel?
[06:59] <superfly> hi ThatGraemeGuy
[06:59] <superfly> I am
[06:59] <ThatGraemeGuy> if you click an http link to an image does it load in your web browser?
[06:59] <ThatGraemeGuy> mine opens gwenview for some reason :-o
[07:07] <inetpro> good mornings
[07:24] <ThatGraemeGuy> lo inetpro 
[07:47] <Kilos> hi ThatGraemeGuy inetpro superfly and others
[07:47] <Kilos> hi mazal 
[07:48] <mazal> Môre oom
[07:48] <superfly> ThatGraemeGuy: uh, I'll have to see...
[07:49] <superfly> ThatGraemeGuy: nope, opens in my default browser
[07:55] <ThatGraemeGuy> thanks
[09:48] <Kilos> inetpro, the topic bar still needs updating sometime please
[09:57] <Kilos> hi Xethron 
[10:37]  * Squirm looks around
[10:37] <Squirm> hi
[10:38] <Kilos> hi Squirm 
[10:41]  * Kilos goes to lde. wbb
[11:22] <Kilos> hi bushtech  Rynofear  
[11:23] <bushtech> hi kilos
[11:59] <superfly> ThatGraemeGuy: do you know much about Mikrotik routers?
[12:36] <AlphaGuyy> goodAfternoon
[12:36] <Kilos> hi AlphaGuyy  
[12:36] <AlphaGuyy> :)
[12:37] <AlphaGuyy> i made it
[12:37] <Kilos> good
[12:37] <AlphaGuyy> pidgin up running
[12:37] <Kilos> cool
[12:37] <AlphaGuyy> compiz crashed 
[12:38] <Kilos> i dont play with that
[12:38] <Kilos> let it do its own thing
[12:38] <AlphaGuyy> cant remember how to enable fancy effects
[12:38] <Kilos> what fancy effects?
[12:38] <AlphaGuyy> snappy windows etc
[12:39] <AlphaGuyy> i think i got it now but its not working
[12:39] <ThatGraemeGuy> superfly: I don't, I can give you Lance's details if you like, he's a guru with that stuff
[12:39] <Kilos> look in settings for stuff to play with and also install unity-tweak-tool
[12:40] <Kilos> and aptitude
[12:41] <Kilos> sudo apt-get install aptitude then use aptitude for installing and reinstalling, it gives you fixes for prob things
[12:42] <Kilos> i think its more user friendly than apt-get
[12:43] <AlphaGuyy> what is aptitude'
[12:43] <superfly> ThatGraemeGuy: please, I'd really appreciate it
[12:44] <superfly> AlphaGuyy: aptitude is the better package manager, if it can deal with multiarch
[12:44] <AlphaGuyy> The following extra packages will be installed:
[12:44] <AlphaGuyy>   libboost-iostreams1.46.1 libclass-accessor-perl libcwidget3 libept1.4.12
[12:44] <AlphaGuyy>   libio-string-perl libparse-debianchangelog-perl libsub-name-perl
[12:44] <AlphaGuyy>   libtimedate-perl
[12:44] <AlphaGuyy> seeing that im using 12.04 wudnt it be better i just download newer version
[12:45] <AlphaGuyy> or should i just keep this update ..
[12:45] <Kilos> its an improved apt-get imo
[12:46] <Kilos> oh ya you on 12.04 hey. if its running fine stay with it
[12:46] <Kilos> 14.04 you need to do more work to get things setup right
[12:47] <Kilos> sorry unity-tweak-tool is in 14.04
[12:47] <AlphaGuyy> yeah i couldt find that now
[12:47] <mazal> Shees I have to start looking into aptitude
[12:47] <Kilos> there was another tweak thing for 12.04 but ive forgotten what it was
[12:47] <mazal> Never get round to learn that
[12:47] <Kilos> aptitude rocks mazal  
[12:48] <AlphaGuyy> maaz coffee
[12:48] <Maaz> AlphaGuyy: coffee is liquid code
[12:49] <AlphaGuyy> i cant find aptitude now
[12:49] <Kilos> are you offline?
[12:50] <AlphaGuyy> online
[12:50] <AlphaGuyy> apt get is done
[12:50] <AlphaGuyy> now what
[12:50] <Kilos> now use aptitude like apt-get
[12:51] <Kilos> sudo aptitude reinstall compiz
[12:51] <Kilos> it will tell you if there are probs or fixes
[12:51] <AlphaGuyy> thanx
[12:52] <AlphaGuyy> i still dont know how this terminal commands works 
[12:52] <Kilos> do you know man pages?
[12:52] <AlphaGuyy> im just pasting lines
[12:52] <superfly> Thanks ThatGraemeGuy
[12:52] <Kilos> thats fine you get used to it
[12:52] <ThatGraemeGuy> np
[12:53] <Kilos> AlphaGuyy  use sudo aptitude install synaptic
[12:53] <AlphaGuyy> done
[12:53] <Kilos> then you can open synaptic and see what all is installled and what is available
[12:53] <AlphaGuyy> i have until 3:45time
[12:54] <Kilos> go sudo apt-get update and then sudo aptitude upgrade
[12:54] <Kilos> that should upgrade everything important 
[12:55] <AlphaGuyy> ok still busy on synaptic
[12:55] <AlphaGuyy> 2mbps line
[12:55] <Kilos> ai!
[12:55] <AlphaGuyy> free internet cant complain
[12:56] <Kilos> oh yes
[12:56] <AlphaGuyy> computer lab at mosque
[12:57] <AlphaGuyy> 12.3 kB/s 1min 51s
[12:57] <Kilos> anyway AlphaGuyy  in the terminal you can type in man aptitude or other package name to see how to use it
[12:57] <AlphaGuyy> kewl thanx
[12:57] <Kilos> np
[12:58] <Kilos> and you can open many terminals , no need to wait for one to do its thing
[12:58] <Kilos> ctrl+alt+t opens a new one
[13:00] <AlphaGuyy> sudo aptitude install synaptic
[13:01] <AlphaGuyy> alpha@alpha-3000-N200:~$ sudo aptitude install synaptic
[13:01] <AlphaGuyy> No packages will be installed, upgraded, or removed.
[13:01] <AlphaGuyy> 0 packages upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
[13:01] <AlphaGuyy> Need to get 0 B of archives. After unpacking 0 B will be used.
[13:01] <AlphaGuyy> does that mean im up to date
[13:05] <Kilos> yip
[13:07] <Kilos> haha i remember at time not so long ago when i was told to open a terminal for the first time hahaha
[13:07] <Kilos> "a what"
[13:08] <mazal> hehehehe
[13:08] <mazal> I'm from the DOS days , so wasn't so strange for me
[13:08] <mazal> Until the commands started
[13:08] <Kilos> i thought a terminal was a place where busses got together to party
[13:09] <AlphaGuyy> my first experience with computers was in the green screen days
[13:09] <mazal> ditto
[13:09] <AlphaGuyy> when i had floppy disk games on old warehouse computers
[13:09] <AlphaGuyy> then i got windows95 and doom that only ran in dos
[13:10] <AlphaGuyy> i learnt a few cd.. commands thats all
[13:11] <AlphaGuyy> finding ubuntu is refreshing i feel like a kid again , like that first dos experience altho i bean at it only a few yrs now on and off
[13:11] <AlphaGuyy> im so tired of windows 
[13:11] <AlphaGuyy> the ubuntu look and feel is a relief
[13:12] <AlphaGuyy> and challenging and free
[13:12] <AlphaGuyy> and not to mention proudly south African
[13:13] <Kilos> haha
[13:29] <mazal> Bye everyone , have a nice evening
[13:56] <AlphaGuyy> hey guys
[13:56] <AlphaGuyy> whats the "primary" key
[13:57] <AlphaGuyy> eg. control primary alt
[13:57] <Kilos> what does it do?
[13:58] <AlphaGuyy> unfolds cube
[13:58] <AlphaGuyy> i got effects working
[13:58] <AlphaGuyy> but cude is flat
[13:58] <AlphaGuyy> 2d
[13:59] <Kilos> are you not runn ing in 2d mode
[13:59] <Kilos> when you boot you should see choices to choose 2d or ubuntu
[14:00] <Kilos> ytou need a good graphics card though i think
[14:01] <Kilos> the windows key are called super keys in ubuntu
[14:01] <Kilos> dunno what primary is
[14:01] <Kilos> wait for a clever guy to answer that one
[14:29] <AlphaGuyy> i got it >>>whoowhoo
[14:29] <AlphaGuyy> see ya guys next time
[14:29] <AlphaGuyy> cube rotating windows wobbling
[14:30] <AlphaGuyy> cheers
[14:38] <Squirm> and computer being slow ^^
[14:39] <Squirm> I guess I prefer speed over looks
[15:04] <Kilos> yip
[16:03] <Vince-0> surp
[16:06] <Kilos> hi Vince-0  hows thing with you?
[16:07] <Vince-0> ag same dizl
[16:07] <Kilos> lol
[16:07] <Vince-0> collected some hdds for you
[16:07] <Kilos> wonderful ty very much
[16:08] <Vince-0> no problem, I'm sorting packing and then delivery - just a bit busy with company move etc right now
[16:08] <Kilos> np
[16:21] <inetpro> Kilos: have you ever tried aptitude on it's own?
[16:22] <inetpro> with it you can also see what is installed... no need for synaptic really
[16:24] <Kilos> nope inetpro  
[16:24] <Kilos> you didnt tell me
[16:24] <Kilos> hehe
[16:25] <Kilos> you know man pages and i dont see eye to eye
[16:26] <inetpro> Kilos: topic set
[16:27] <Kilos> oh ty very much sir
[16:27] <inetpro> you should try aptitude on it's own, it's not a man page
[16:43] <Kilos> lol
[16:43] <Kilos> there are no pictures there man
[17:24] <magespawn> good evening
[17:33] <Kilos> hi magespawn  
[17:33] <magespawn> hey Kilos 
[17:34] <magespawn> so whats up?
[17:35] <Kilos> um
[17:35] <Kilos> its supposed to be up your side man
[17:35] <Kilos> your internet
[17:36] <Kilos> here its just another day and week
[17:41] <magespawn> same old, same old
[17:41] <inetpro> Kilos: why do you need pictures?
[17:42] <Kilos> haha they are easier to see and understand
[17:50] <Kilos> oh inetpro  now i see how it works, will take a while to understand it all but ty
[17:50] <Kilos> how long has it been in this form too?
[17:53] <inetpro> been like that forever
[18:32] <Kilos> ai! internet half dead
[18:32] <Kilos> Maaz  hi
[18:32] <Maaz> Sup Kilos
[18:52] <charl> good evening ladies and gentlemen
[18:52] <charl> Maaz: coffee on
[18:52]  * Maaz puts the kettle on
[18:52] <charl> hi Kilos, inetpro, magespawn 
[18:52] <Kilos> hi charl  
[18:52] <Kilos> Maaz  coffee please
[18:52] <Maaz> Kilos: Sure
[18:56] <Maaz> Coffee's ready for charl and Kilos!
[18:57] <charl> Maaz: danke
[18:57] <Maaz> Bitteschön
[18:58] <inetpro> hello charl
[19:25] <magespawn> hi charl 
[20:36] <magespawn> bed time, good night all