[00:00] <wafflejock> craigbass1976, what do you mean by "folks looking at the server" the files need to be readable by the apache/www-data user so apache can read/serve the files out to you perhaps you want .htaccess
[00:00] <craigbass1976> I have a ~/html where I can put them all, then just link from /var/www/html to somethign that's in ~/html/ when I'm ok with it going out on the web.  But I get a 403 permission error when trying to view such a site, even when www-data owns everything
[00:01] <wafflejock> craigbass1976, www-data needs read permission on all the folders up to the one serving the files, I typically just keep it all in /var/www and use the conf files to change what shows up where
[00:01] <wafflejock> craigbass1976, probably best to ask in an #apache chat though too
[00:02] <craigbass1976> wafflejock: Ahh, I guess I could just stick them in /var/www/ and ln -s /var/www/html/test-site-link /var/www/test-site-dir
[00:02] <wafflejock> craigbass1976, you can use a2ensite a2dissite to enable or disable various site configuration files (it makes a link in sites-enabled to point to conf in sites-available)
[00:03] <Beldar> Loshki, I have the join and eave off.
[00:03] <Beldar> leave*
[00:03] <wafflejock> craigbass1976, there're definitely a few ways to do it depending on exactly what you want to have happen in terms of accessibility I would also check out .htaccess for temporary auth stuff if you don't want a directory accessible to all
[00:04] <Loshki> Beldar: so do I, but I timestamp messages, so I know s/he'd gone <= 7 minutes. join & heave :-)
[00:04] <DS-McGuire> Bashing-om: I have signed it now. thanks  a lot, I deactivayted and reactivated my key :)
[00:07] <Beldar> Loshki, And I'm sure Yoh Momma is proud all you can do is make smart remarks on the IRC. ;)
[00:08] <Deihmos> with htc making a windows phone to the htc one m8 i wonder if it will be possible to load up windows phone on the android device
[00:08] <daftykins> that's completely off topic
[00:11] <craigbass1976> wafflejock: htaccess is going to be so full of other stuff, I don't want to make it more complicated -- I'll just stick it up a directory int he tree
[00:11] <Loshki> Beldar: mostly I do support here?
[00:13] <Bashing-om> DS-McGuire: Good-deal ! I was looking at how I did it. Glad we do not have to walk through that process ( again) .
[00:19] <DS-McGuire> Bashing-om: I am glad too! haha! Thank you for your help :D
[00:21] <Bashing-om> DS-McGuire: : ) Moral support sometimes helps most.
[00:21] <DS-McGuire> Bashing-om: That is definitely what I needed haha!
[00:28] <martin1989> people
[00:28] <Beldar> Not even close to the definition of morale support but seemed to work anyway. ;)
[00:28] <martin1989> how can i upgrade my system?
[00:28] <martin1989> to latest version
[00:28] <martin1989> ??
[00:28] <martin1989> i have 13.10
[00:28] <adamweld> from what to what?
[00:28] <Beldar> !eol | martin1989 See eol upgrades
[00:28] <martin1989> 13.10--->latest version
[00:28] <wafflejock> martin1989, backup first use clonezilla or something
[00:29] <martin1989> mmnah
[00:29] <martin1989> i dont need to back up
[00:29] <Beldar> martin1989, Back it up first.
[00:29] <martin1989> dont have any important info
[00:29] <wafflejock> k yeah if you're cool with losing it allthat's fine
[00:29] <Beldar> than fresh install 14.04 martin1989 will be faster
[00:30] <wafflejock> the latest dist upgrade actually went well for me but I clean installed to kubuntu and now switched to ubuntu gnome.... can't make up my mind
[00:30] <martin1989> but i dont have any bootable media available right now
[00:30] <martin1989> only a fast connection
[00:30] <wafflejock> martin1989, USB?
[00:30] <Beldar> martin1989, So what will you d if it fails?
[00:30] <martin1989> neither
[00:30] <Beldar> do*
[00:31] <martin1989> can it fail and make unusable the system?????
[00:31] <martin1989> i didnt know that!
[00:31] <Beldar> martin1989, Yes
[00:31] <wafflejock> martin1989, absolutely
[00:31] <martin1989> wow!!
[00:31] <wafflejock> martin1989, it used to be more a of a problem
[00:31] <wafflejock> the last two I did weren't catastrophic but it can be
[00:32] <wafflejock> always good to backup before major upgrades regardless of the system anyhow
[00:32] <Beldar> martin1989, A install basically no PPA's and 3rd party apps or packages will most likely succeed.
[00:32] <wafflejock> I mean if it's not just a toy machine you don't mind bricking
[00:33] <Bashing-om> martin1989: ^^ and make sure screen saver is disabled !
[00:33] <wafflejock> using "bricking" loosely typically only the OS would have issues not the hardware
[00:33] <Beldar> If you tweak it enough than failure is more likely
[00:35] <martin1989> ok thanx everybody
[00:35] <Basketball> can i brick computer by updating 12.04's kernel from 2.2 to 3.16
[00:35] <wafflejock> martin1989, it's best to just get an external drive (or NAS if the budget allows) and use clonezilla to duplicate the whole disk (clonezilla will use DD and copy the entire disk exactly)
[00:35] <wafflejock> clonezilla is a bootable ISO so pretty easy to use too
[00:36] <wafflejock> saved me earlier when I forgot to copy my KeePass files over with all my passwords in them
[00:36] <wafflejock> using eSATA it moved 10GB in about 2 minutes which was pretty awesome
[00:38] <tgh> wafflejock: awesome, over the network?
[00:38] <wafflejock> tgh nope eSATA is just external SATA so like an internal cable but... external :P
[00:38] <wafflejock> I think if I had a gigabit switch I could get close to the same rate
[00:38] <wafflejock> but only 100mbps ones sitting around
[00:39] <wafflejock> right now my NAS is running fsck
[00:39] <wafflejock> I want to get Gnome deja dup backup setup using the NAS but it's being lame and slow... making me want a faster NAS
[00:40] <wafflejock> it's an oldy ReadyNAS Duo, with a SPARC proc running debian Sarge
[00:42] <wafflejock> 84% done so maybe an hour to go???? who knows?
[00:43] <wafflejock> anyone here use Deja Dup or can recommend how I should go about configuring it for backup to the NAS, should I use the windows share option, the NAS supports SMB CIFS SSH, I could just mount the cifs volume somewhere and from Deja Dups perspective say it's a local folder to write to but not sure what's best
[00:44] <wafflejock> decisions... decisions
[00:44] <tgh> wafflejock: have you thought about repurposing an old desktop as a ubuntu server/nas solution? I finally figured it out and cant be happier for the $
[00:44] <orangerobot> hello there. i've just clean installed ubuntu 14.04 64bit into my pc and I boot into a blank (black) screen but I can see my mouse cursor. Anythink I could have a look at to see what's wrong?
[00:45] <wafflejock> tgh, I have actually thought about it, but have never configured RAID myself
[00:45] <wafflejock> I'm a bit apprehensive about that
[00:45] <wafflejock> my NAS uses some black magic X-RAID thing that seems to work well but the hardware is just old and hard to find supporting packages for that proc
[00:46] <tgh> I have 2 mb's of various ages and all have simple bios raid options. Ubuntu server allows for software raid too
[00:46] <tgh> actually 3 motherboards now that i think about it
[00:47] <wafflejock> orangerobot, can you get to a tty using Ctrl+Alt+F1, Ctrl+Alt+F7 is usually where the X display is running
[00:47] <wafflejock> tgh, yeah only board I have sitting around is pretty ancient IDE and all
[00:48] <tgh> wafflejock: ah, the good old boards!
[00:48] <wafflejock> tgh, but was thinking about a NUC or some sort of small tower instead of a pure NAS
[00:48] <Bashing-om> orangerobot: A balck screen is generally indicative of graphics, but seeing the mouse is different (??) Nvidia/ATI for graphics ? Might try and boot with "nomodeset" see what results.
[00:49] <tgh> wafflejock: I am curious about the NUC too but now that I finally took the plunge and learned basic ubuntu server setup I stopped being interested in NAS boxes
[00:49] <orangerobot> wafflejock: right now I can't, but I can if I do it before I get the blank screen. There. done it. What should I look for? .xsession_errors?
[00:49] <orangerobot> wafflejock: yes I use nvidia ati for graphics
[00:50] <wafflejock> orangerobot, yeah you can check some log files, check dmesg to see if it has anything illuminating or whatever you can find, nvidia or ATI/AMD they are competitors who make different chipsets
[00:50] <haizum> how do i make it so that when i do ls -a, it lists the dotted directories at the top of the tree rather than alphabetically?
[00:50] <tgh> wafflejock: the features of 12.04 and community support made the plunge fairly painless for a noob like me
[00:51] <wafflejock> orangerobot, like Bashing-om suggested using nomodeset might be worth trying first then if that works out see if maybe you have drivers you can install for your chipset specifically... you can use lspci to see devices
[00:51] <Shadow}}> Hi; I came home to my surround sound chord unjacked and now its no longer playing in 5.1. Only in AC-3...
[00:52] <wafflejock> tgh, yeah I only started using Ubuntu seriously with 12.04, didn't like Unity though so I went with Kubuntu then upgraded that to 14.04 and then decided to switch to Ubuntu Gnome cause I was distracting myself with KDE
[00:52] <orangerobot> wafflejock: hmmm ok.. i'll try searching the web for drivers maybe that helps.. thanks
[00:52] <Shadow}}> I tried force shut downing it all with speakers rebooted per se. I tried restarting without them plugged in..Tried all possible audio settings for output...
[00:53] <Shadow}}> Neither the headphone front jack nor back stereo jack produce working results when both used to.
[00:53] <libmrsnakes> can anybody help me update kernel?  i've followed instructions but am stuck at 3.4 and updater says system up to date.  been working on this all day.
[00:53] <Shadow}}> Is there a ..eh..an Audio type module update I can do to see if it fixes it?
[00:53] <Guest26146> need help to get dvd to work have all plugins and dvdread4 installed and vlc
[00:53] <tgh> wafflejock: i hear you. I liked gnome2..... since 13.10 though unity has matured nicely. I use it exclusively now when not in the terminal
[00:54] <wafflejock> tgh, yeah I like what I saw in Unity 14.04 update too... I might switch once more but for now need to organize my backup strategy to make switching easier
[00:54] <tgh> wafflejock: I havent had any gui on my server though. makes a slimmer os
[00:54] <Guest26146> vlc i click play and its stops right away
[00:54] <Shadow}}> Seriously someone throw me some ideas, Last thing I have to think is the chord went out specifically on both 3.1 and 5.1 but not AC-3...
[00:55] <tgh> wafflejock: agreed, so about using an ubuntu server (desktop) for a backup solution :)
[00:55] <wafflejock> tgh, yeah I use AWS with a VPS running Ubuntu Server edition I added XFCE so I can remote in with a GUI for the rare cases I want it but it's normally not running
[00:55] <Shadow}}> Guest26146: Are you playing a torrent downloaded file and what extension is the file itself?
[00:56] <wafflejock> Shadow}}, perhaps you want alsa-mixer?
[00:56] <wafflejock> Shadow}}, not sure but when I've had audio issues that seemed like the place to start since it's fairly low level
[00:56] <Shadow}}> wafflejock: Seems to me I merely need a means (app/program) to redo my used default audio and/or yata yata so yes seems that would work.
[00:57] <Shadow}}> wafflejock: Got a line to download from apt-get? I dislike...search engines..
[00:57] <wafflejock> Shadow}}, I think another one that was useful was pavucontrol
[00:57] <tgh> wafflejock: how do you like AWS? ive been curious
[00:57] <wafflejock> Shadow}}, think it's in alsa-tools
[00:58] <Shadow}}> wafflejock: That an app or built in? o-o
[00:59] <wafflejock> tgh, it's been pretty good, I have a "medium" server which is like around 1.5-2GHz but it's pretty snappy costs about $30 per month but depends on data throughput which is always a little scary
[00:59] <Bashing-om> Liberty: Hardware enablement stcak enabled ? show us -> uname -r . cat /etc/issue . (12.02/3/4 are end of life )
[00:59] <wafflejock> Shadow}}, you can get alsa-mixer in alsa-tools package using sudo apt-get install asla-tools then run alsa-mixer (it's command line "GUI") or sudo apt-get install pavucontrol it's a pulse audio layer audio control GUI (think GTK or something)
[00:59] <Shadow}}> Don't make me go to google, Please give me a line to download asa via apt-get ;-;
[01:00] <Shadow}}> HUZZAH! Thank you wafflejock, very much.
[01:00] <tgh> wafflejock: yeah, probably gonna hold off on the monthly charges for a while. Forces me to learn more LAN skills any who lol
[01:00] <wafflejock> Shadow}}, np let me know how it goes, Alsa-Mixer is a bit hard to navigate but look around and it tells you what to press to see other inputs/outputs
[01:00] <Shadow}}> wafflejock: Alrighty.
[01:02] <Shadow}}> Say uh..how to run a program from line? Safely from root... might need to add that.
[01:02] <wafflejock> tgh, yeah I'm hosting this http://intellectual-tech.com/ <-- me and my brother with a small business, and like 5 other sites right now and our e-mail, git server, jenkins, it's doing everything
[01:03] <Shadow}}> I'm still newish to linux especially the real linuxy parts; Moreover I'm a slow learner...Amazing comprehension slow draw due to thinking...
[01:03] <wafflejock> Shadow}}, typically you can run a command in the command line if bash (the command interpreter/shell) sees the name of the binary/executable file in your path
[01:04] <Shadow}}> wafflejock: So...Just alsa-mixer?
[01:04] <wafflejock> Shadow}}, so you should be able to just type alsa-mixer because there will be a link in your /usr/bin that it adds when it does the apt-get install
[01:04] <wafflejock> Shadow}}, yup
[01:04] <Shadow}}> Ahh!
[01:04] <cre8torx> just alsamixer
[01:04] <wafflejock> Shadow}}, you can type "which asla-mixer" (sans quotes) to see where it finds it
[01:04] <Shadow}}> I'm running in term from sudo -s, So shoudl I add sudo to it for safety?
[01:05] <wafflejock> Shadow}}, you generally don't want to run as root
[01:05] <Shadow}}> Lately I've been ignoring the usage of sudo while in root.
[01:05] <wafflejock> sudo just executes something as root then exits the root shell basically
[01:05] <Shadow}}> Yes, Well my computers have always been stubborn root seemed to solve this.
[01:05] <Shadow}}> Really? Pointless. If root.
[01:05] <wafflejock> Shadow}}, it's a learning thing I'm sure, I did that a lot when I first used linux too
[01:05] <wafflejock> Shadow}}, yeah if you're already root it's not doing anything
[01:05] <Shadow}}> Or not, Depends I suppose...Anyway...gonna try that mixer see if I can produce results..
[01:06] <wafflejock> cre8torx, oh no -?
[01:06] <wafflejock> oh yeah no -
[01:06] <wafflejock> just alsamixer
[01:06] <cre8torx> no -
[01:06] <wafflejock> stupid human memory no ECC :P
[01:07] <cre8torx> alsamixer
[01:07] <Shadow}}> Hm... wafflejock? Just "alsa-mixer and alsa-tools" failed to run from line. Am I missing something?
[01:07] <wafflejock> Shadow}}, see comments above use alsamixer no -
[01:07] <wafflejock> I had recalled incorrectly
[01:07] <wafflejock> it happens
[01:07] <Shadow}}> OH
[01:08] <Shadow}}> I thought you had mistakenly thought you added a -? to your line given to me so I ignored you....
[01:08] <Shadow}}> Ah! The thingy from my puppydrive, Thanks wafflejock ..THIS I can handle.
[01:09] <Shadow}}> It runs within the terminal?? Neat..
[01:10] <Shadow}}> Kay. If I plug int he speaker jack it drops Speaker to 0, If I unplug the jack it goes to 100. Seems to be using the built in audio...
[01:10] <Shadow}}> And failing to change to jack-in
[01:10] <demoz> hello,can anyone tell me how could i run dos2unix command on every new file created in a folder ?
[01:11] <chriys> is it worth to protect something else than ssh using fail2ban
[01:12] <chriys> ?
[01:12] <orangerobot> wafflejock: i've installed the fglrx driver and everything 'seems' to have come back to normal. thank you for the heads-up
[01:13] <wafflejock> Shadow}}, well that's interesting.... not sure what's up though
[01:13] <wafflejock> Shadow}}, you can try manually increasing the volume after you jack in there
[01:13] <Shadow}}> wafflejock: Should I set Input settings to Line-In or Analog Input?
[01:13] <wafflejock> orangerobot, np glad you got it sorted
[01:13] <wafflejock> Shadow}}, dunno honestly I just fiddled with it till I found the muted input I was trying to turn on
[01:14] <Shadow}}> wafflejock: Same! Yet now none are working.
[01:15] <Shadow}}> Hmm...Somehow I made it a Dummy Output >->;
[01:15] <wafflejock> chriys, I have it on my mail setup too and it bans people think that's probably good thing
[01:16] <chriys> oh ok good to know I got install a media server for live streaming. You think it's a good idea to set it up for that application ?
[01:17] <wafflejock> chriys, if it has a login that can be brute forced then I think it's a good thing to have, the config isn't too bad either actually I fixed mine cause the regex it was using wasn't matching some of the failures in the auth.log
[01:17] <Shadow}}> Hah! Just found a hidden mic in my monitor...neat...
[01:17] <wafflejock> chriys, basically you just tell it which "filter to use" that's defined in another text file that has a list of regular expressions to use to parse out the IP from the log file line and you tell it which log file to apply to
[01:18] <wafflejock> Shadow}}, haha nice
[01:18] <chriys> that's another thing I don't know exactely how the principle of brute force works
[01:18] <Shadow}}> wafflejock: Least they could of done is tell me its there. Wait..It was cheaper for it, Nvm. xD
[01:18] <chriys> but I don't know that I'll have to open 4 ports to be able to use that media server
[01:18] <wafflejock> chriys, basically if a service has a username and password and lets you keep guessing then someone can use a program (jacktheripper) to guess passwords till it gets yours
[01:19] <wafflejock> fail2ban will see auth errors in the logs and ban the IP after a certain number of retries for a certain amount of time
[01:19] <wafflejock> so it makes brute force cracking much harder if not impossible
[01:20] <ga_sk8er> how do i  tell my video card model number so i  can get my driver
[01:20] <wafflejock> Shadow}}, that's probably an NSA feature addition ;P
[01:20] <Shadow}}> wafflejock: Likely. Bout four years before the whole thing was news.
[01:20] <wafflejock> ga_sk8er, lspci should list it
[01:21] <Shadow}}> wafflejock: Watch the hand listening to your phone calls and watching your ISP's data streaming, Don't look at your own tech. Lol
[01:22] <chriys> wafflejock: I see i think I'll set it up then
[01:22] <wafflejock> Shadow}}, getting OT so this is the last I'll say about it but I saw some news about them hijacking Cisco hardware and adding their own firmware with backdoors before shipping to businesses
[01:23] <ga_sk8er> ok i  found it thanks :)
[01:23] <wafflejock> ga_sk8er, np
[01:23] <Shadow}}> wafflejock: Hah. Decent way to do business.
[01:25] <Shadow}}> wafflejock: Hm.. I got a PUFF outta them.. Idk man.  I'm puzzled.
[01:26] <ga_sk8er> so since i  have the radeon x300 se i  go to the amd page & choose desktop, radeon x, radeon X3xxx Serioes, then choose my linux version, .....right?
[01:26] <wafflejock> ga_sk8er, sounds right looks like one too many Xes though
[01:27] <ga_sk8er> in terminal i  got radeon X 300 SE
[01:27] <ga_sk8er> oh i see what i did lol
[01:28] <ga_sk8er> dang it....amd site currently doing maintenance so cant get the driver....any other way?
[01:30] <[Eli]> Anyone could help me make my Ethernet card work on my Linux?
[01:31] <blueprintzzz> what kinda card is it eli
[01:32] <[Eli]> hmmm not sure, it came with my Asus computer, I can look it up though
[01:32] <wafflejock> ga_sk8er, probably best to just wait
[01:32] <wafflejock> ga_sk8er, otherwise you might get something older
[01:32] <blueprintzzz> look it up and ill see what i can do
[01:33] <ga_sk8er> idk if there might of been a command line or something to do it
[01:33] <[Eli]> Thanks Blueprintzz
[01:33] <Bashing-om> ga_sk8er: If HD 2x/3x/4x-series chipset. ATI dropped support and there is no proprietary driver available after release 12.04.1 - Heads Up -.
[01:34] <quantibility> ga sla8er
[01:34] <quantibility> which amd driver
[01:34] <quantibility> i have a bit
[01:37] <[Eli]> Blueprintzz I'm gonna have to login into Windows to check this out, not sure how to find out from Linux, I'll be back, thanks.
[01:41] <sfn>  I have installed Voyager Linux 14.04 and tried to install b43 wireless through package manager. It seems "downloads.openwrt.org" could be connected and the package mager is hanging. When tried from the terminal I get "E: dpkg was interrupted, you must manually run 'sudo dpkg --configure -a' to correct the problem."
[01:41] <sfn>  when I tried to run "sudo dpkg --configure -a" from terminal I get "HTTP request sent, awaiting response... Read error (Connection timed out) in headers. Retrying."
[01:42] <Peyam> sfn, I dont think you will get a proper help here since it is a ubunt channel and even if voyager is a derivate
[01:53] <jim1> does anyone know a good video converter?ty
[01:53] <lotuspsychje> !convert
[01:53] <_Trullo> Error! Missing an input.
[01:55] <lotuspsychje> jim1: try software centre with convert as keyword
[01:55] <jim1> oh ok
[01:56] <blueprintzzz> jim1 i use downloadhelper as a firefox addon
[01:56] <blueprintzzz> converts and downloads videos off sites
[01:57] <jim1> well i wanted a program cause i need to convert an avi we need to watch a movie our dvd player doesnt support it
[01:57] <matt__> Has anyone here done a downgrade?
[01:58] <[Eli]> Hey blueprintzzz the ethernet card is an Intel Intel 1217-V
[01:58] <xangua> matt__: downgrade is not supproted
[01:58] <[Eli]> That's all I could find out ;-(
[01:58] <matt__> I have a headless laptop(gpu fried I think) and 14.04 installs with min install but I can't get 12.04 to install
[01:59] <blueprintzzz> eli install wine and run one as a windows gui
[02:00] <blueprintzzz> one sec let me see what i can find
[02:00] <Beldar> jim1, Avi is a container, are you completely sure it will not play, what have you done?
[02:02] <[Eli]> Wine ? isn't this like some sort of emulation software?
[02:02] <blueprintzzz> eli try this in terminal
[02:02] <blueprintzzz> sudo apt-get install linux-image-`uname -r`
[02:02] <blueprintzzz> so wait it would be
[02:03] <blueprintzzz> sudo apt-get install linux-image-`e1000e.ko -r`
[02:03] <blueprintzzz> i think let me look
[02:03] <[Eli]> Ok, I will wait.
[02:03] <[Eli]> thanks
[02:05] <blueprintzzz> try this find / -name 'e1000e.ko' 2>/dev/nu and tell me what it says
[02:05] <[Eli]> so I type: find / -name 'e1000e.ko' 2>/dev/nu    on the terminal window?
[02:06] <blueprintzzz> yes
[02:06] <[Eli]> ok thanks.
[02:06] <[Eli]> bash: /dev/nu: Permission denied
[02:07] <user7654> Could someone please explain the proper application of patch or link to an example.  I have sourcefile.c and file.diff to apply.  how do I patch sourcefile.c with file.diff
[02:07] <blueprintzzz> did u put sudo in front of it
[02:08] <blueprintzzz> sudo gives u root permission just requires password
[02:08] <blueprintzzz> but nvrm that
[02:08] <blueprintzzz> try this sudo lshw -C network  should tell u some info
[02:08] <[Eli]> new to Linux here kind of lost lol
[02:08] <blueprintzzz> put sudo in front of all apt-get and installs
[02:08] <[Eli]> sorry so I should type sudo and my username password then the command you said?
[02:08] <blueprintzzz> no no
[02:09] <lotuspsychje> !su
[02:09] <blueprintzzz> sudo lshw -C network  copy this and paste itll then ask for ur password
[02:09] <blueprintzzz> itll say
[02:10] <[Eli]> ok it asked for pass and I entered mine
[02:10] <blueprintzzz> hit enter
[02:10] <[Eli]> now new line with this: eli@eli-K30AD-M31AD-M51AD:~$
[02:10] <[Eli]> do I type the command now?
[02:10] <blueprintzzz> no seems theres not a driver at all
[02:10] <blueprintzzz> try this
[02:11] <blueprintzzz> lsmod | grep -i e100   paste this
[02:11] <Dragin> Can anyone give me an idea on what is happening here, and more to the point, how to fix it? http://pastebin.com/UxMdaEGF
[02:11] <[Eli]> ok let me try
[02:11] <[Eli]> eli@eli-K30AD-M31AD-M51AD:~$ lsmod | grep -i e100
[02:11] <[Eli]> eli@eli-K30AD-M31AD-M51AD:~$
[02:11] <martin1989> upgraded my system :-D
[02:11] <blueprintzzz> dragin why are you trying to use rouge programs
[02:12] <martin1989> all cool
[02:12] <martin1989> haha
[02:12]  * Dragin is puzzled by blueprintzzz's question...
[02:12] <Dragin> Not sure what you mean
[02:12] <wafflejock> martin1989, congrats
[02:13] <martin1989> thnx waffle
[02:13] <user7654> been working with Dragin on this.  actually both of us need to make sure patch is applied properly first....
[02:14] <user7654> both of us are unsure as to the proper use of patch, thus my question above
[02:15] <Dragin> I equate a "rogue program" as a hack, or cheat. This is neither.
[02:15] <PlayOnLinux_> i need help using play on linux. it is very anoying. and all tutorials are outdated
[02:35] <chriys> hey guys I got this error when I try to log in ssh Write failed: Broken pipe
[02:37] <wafflejock> chriys, not sure google says https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=97003
[02:38] <chriys> I don't know if it's due to fail2ban
[02:38] <Dragin> netsplit?
[02:39] <bitemyapp> I'm having trouble with xmonad, ubuntu, and a macbook pro 11,1. my modmask is set to modMask4, but it doesn't seem to recognize cmd as my super key although Ubuntu does.
[02:39] <wafflejock> chriys, did you fail login more than the limit set?
[02:39] <bitemyapp> Does anybody know how to remap it with .xinitrc so that it'll work?
[02:39] <chriys> nope
[02:41] <wafflejock> chriys, generally speaking fail2ban just watches log files if it finds matches based on the regex you give it then it adds an IP to the iptables to deny that address so shouldn't be causing problems I don't think, I installed it on my AWS server and haven't had problems
[02:41] <chriys> ok I see
[02:42] <wafflejock> chriys, think the only time I've seen that message though is when I have an SSH connection already going and the connection is lost for some reason
[02:42] <chriys> me too
[02:42] <chriys> for some reason I think fail2ban just banned me
[02:43] <wafflejock> chriys, did you have it configured to e-mail you for bans?
[02:43] <chriys> yeah but I don't have a mail server up and running
[02:44] <wafflejock> chriys, yeah think various versions of sendmail can be configured to use gmail SMTP or otherwise too though in my case it was for an e-mail server setup
[02:44] <PlayOnLinux_> hello?
[02:44] <ga_sk8er> i couldnt get my video card to work so then i  cant play my steam stuff on linux so  im back to windows for now
[02:44] <wafflejock> PlayOnLinux_, hey yeah saw your query never used it though
[02:44] <somsip> !info sendEmail | chriys (can be useful for F2B, with Gmail SMTP)
[02:44] <ga_sk8er> i might come back at ubuntu later on again on a newer pc
[02:45] <wafflejock> ga_sk8er, bummer I still have a windows box for big time games anyhow
[02:45] <PlayOnLinux_> oh is that you jonny?
[02:45] <PlayOnLinux_> ezio, awesome nick
[02:45] <chriys> I was thinking about setting up a mail server
[02:45] <ga_sk8er> all i  mainly do is social stuff like facebook & twitter....then i  play some onlnie games on pogo.com.....& my steam games
[02:45] <somsip> chriys: what host do you use?
[02:45] <wafflejock> chriys it was an adventure
[02:45] <ga_sk8er> oh & my music on spotify & pandora
[02:46] <wafflejock> chriys, everything was easy till I started adding security then it got complicated... but happy to have it working finally
[02:46] <PlayOnLinux_> query wafflejock
[02:46] <chriys> lol agree
[02:46] <Beldar> ga_sk8er, Chat is on #ubuntu-offtopic this is support.
[02:46] <wafflejock> chriys, http://flurdy.com/docs/postfix/#config-secure-auth <-- this is the guide I used
[02:47] <chriys> somsip: I use the ip address
[02:47] <ga_sk8er> sorry
[02:47] <ezio> PlayOnLinux_, xie xie
[02:47] <somsip> chriys: no - I was asking where your servers are hosted, as if you setup a mailserver on AWS, they are commonly blacklisted. sometimes emails get rhoguh fine, other time they fail. YMMV. That's why I use senemail
[02:47] <somsip> *sendemail
[02:47] <wafflejock> PlayOnLinux_, I'm Shaun not jonny sorry
[02:48] <chriys> wafflejock: Oh my gosh it looks like a testament
[02:48] <PlayOnLinux_> okay
[02:48] <wafflejock> somsip, they have a form you can fill out to stop from being blocked after 10 messages but think there's more to do to be safe from outside blacklisting
[02:48] <chriys> somsip: I have a vps with digitalocean and I didn't set any mail server yet on my vps
[02:48] <PlayOnLinux_> ezio, Huanyíng
[02:48] <somsip> wafflejock: yeah - I tend to go with the line of least resistance for simple stuff like emails from F2B
[02:48] <ezio> is it possible to create a mail queue that sends mail asynchronously?
[02:49] <somsip> chriys: okeydokey - just thought I'd mention it in case it was relevant
[02:49] <wafflejock> somsip, yea could see that for sure just happened to already want a mail server
[02:49] <chriys> oh ok
[02:49] <PlayOnLinux_> so im having some trouble with pla on linux
[02:49] <ezio> PlayOnLinux_, i uderstand what you mean, but lul
[02:50] <Beldar> !details | PlayOnLinux_
[02:50] <ezio> PlayOnLinux_, yeah i got this nick after the former owner hadn't used it for 2 years
[02:50] <PlayOnLinux_> ioh
[02:50] <PlayOnLinux_> not bad
[02:51] <benzhninja> the microsoft surface 3. I'm trying to find a reason to get this thing
[02:53] <lotuspsychje> dont
[02:53] <lotuspsychje> surface is bad nightmare
[02:56] <benzhninja> you cant tell me you go into a best buy and say "I dont do much. I just want a laptop to browse the web and check email"
[02:56] <jorge> does anybody here use keepass2?
[02:57] <lotuspsychje> benzhninja: any laptop will do fine with ubuntu, get something not too old
[02:58] <SchrodingersScat> !ask | jorge
[02:58] <benzhninja> you dont have something with an i core processor to browse the web you are being wasteful
[02:58] <somsip> !ot | benzhninja
[02:58] <benzhninja> ok
[02:58] <wafflejock> jorge, yeah I do
[02:58] <jorge> keepass2 won't let me copy and paste passwords
[02:59] <jorge> keepass2 cuts off passwords at the end when you select to view them
[02:59] <wafflejock> jorge, you sure you're not just trying to paste too slowly it clears the clipboard after 10 seconds
[03:00] <wafflejock> if you click in a text input usually ctrl+A will select all regardless of whats visible
[03:00] <unicornjedi> hey guyz, my bluetooth dongle aint working. Im on ubuntu 14.04. my bluetooth worked before, i don't know why its not working now.
[03:00] <jorge> no I am not doing it too slowly wafflejock
[03:00] <wafflejock> jorge, just figured I'd check... did you install from the repos or build from source?
[03:01] <jorge> from repos
[03:01] <jorge> using 12.04 ubuntu
[03:01] <[Eli]> Man I love ElementaryOS, if only my Ethernet card would work with it :-( neither of my two wireless N Cards work with it, neither does my Intel Ethernet, only my 8 year old card with speeds of only 54Mbps works.
[03:01] <wafflejock> hmm k I built from source cause I'm using kbdx files since the android and windows client use that now
[03:01] <wafflejock> jorge, but still not sure I entirely understand the issue
[03:01] <rww> !derivatives | [Eli]
[03:01] <unicornjedi> see? rfkill list all3: hci0: Bluetooth	Soft blocked: no	Hard blocked: no
[03:02] <jorge> it won't let me copy to clipboard wafflejock
[03:02] <wafflejock> jorge, meaning when you select an entry in keepass right click and hit copy to clipboard it doesn't work?
[03:02] <jorge> yes
[03:02] <wafflejock> jorge, or just when you open and view the password you can't copy it?
[03:02] <wafflejock> oka
[03:02] <wafflejock> hmm
[03:03] <benzhninja> you dont have something with an i core processor to browse the web you are being wasteful
[03:03] <wafflejock> jorge, have you tried running from command line and seeing if you get any output when you do the copy
[03:03] <jorge> okay will do
[03:04] <PlayOnLinux_> i tried to download skyrim and it said it installed it. cant find file anyware
[03:05] <wafflejock> jorge all else fails I can help you with building it from source you just have to setup the launcher/desktop icon yourself but the build just requires you to be able to find a few dependencies (cmake, qt4-qmake, a few others)
[03:05] <wafflejock> not positive it will fix the issue either but there's a lot of newer stuff than what's in the repos
[03:05] <jorge> wafflejock http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=Y1tGcdLc
[03:06] <wafflejock> jorge, sorry it's greek to me
[03:06] <wafflejock> was hoping for something more like Error :)
[03:06] <jorge> what is the difference between keepass2 to keepassx?
[03:06] <wafflejock> jorge, ah well I use keepassx actually thought that's what we were discussing
[03:07] <benzhninja> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OOaRvQ1dIoM&index=25&list=UUNnyiMfdarYbMqhel6uUkAw
[03:07] <wafflejock> but the kbdx is the newer file format from keepass (windows version)
[03:07] <jorge> I am using keepass2 wafflejock
[03:07] <wafflejock> since my brother uses windows and I wanted to be able to share files with him I used keepassx
[03:07] <wafflejock> jorge when you save a new database file is it .kbd or .kbdx
[03:08] <jorge> kdbx
[03:08] <wafflejock> ah k so it is the same format as the compiled version of keepassx the one in the repos makes .kbd files
[03:09] <wafflejock> yeah I didn't notice the keepass2 package in the repo not sure about that one
[03:10] <wafflejock> jorge yeah so not sure what's wrong with keepass2 but I have used keepassx on Unity KDE and now Gnome and no troubles (but had to compile myself for the kbdx support)
[03:12] <kam270> Hi  i have this error when using LVM : Insufficient free extents (1) in volume group saturn: 512 required
[03:12] <kam270> how do i get rid of this error ?
[03:12] <it> hey
[03:15] <Beldar> is, Please use you regular nick
[03:15] <is> ok
[03:16] <Beldar> or at least one registered
[03:16] <Beldar> since you are registered
[03:18] <coolstar> I'm having issues trying to use my USB microphone with Ubuntu
[03:18] <chriys> wafflejock: finally fixed the issue was related to the chroot
[03:19] <Beldar> coolstar, And the details are?
[03:19] <coolstar> Beldar: the headphones on the headset work but the microphone doesn't
[03:19] <coolstar> lsusb is properly showing the device
[03:19] <Beldar> coolstar, Has it ever worked?
[03:19] <coolstar> and I can see the mic in the KDE audio settings
[03:19] <coolstar> Beldar: it works fine in Windows
[03:20] <Beldar> coolstar, irrelevant, this is ubuntu the question is within those auspices.
[03:20] <coolstar> it never worked in Ubuntu
[03:21] <wafflejock> Beldar, not entirely irrelevant we know the hardware works
[03:21] <Beldar> coolstar, never used kubuntu myself so not sure other than in the volume controls in ubuntu.
[03:22] <wafflejock> coolstar, you can try alsamixer in the command line install with alsa-tools package see if you can activate or unmute the device
[03:22] <chriys> I change changed a Subsystem value inside of sshd_config to sftp internal-sftp
[03:22] <chriys> and now ssh connection ar refused
[03:22] <coolstar> wafflejock: it shows up in alsamixer
[03:23] <chriys> there was some like /usr/
[03:23] <chriys> does someone can provide me that line? pls
[03:23] <wafflejock> coolstar, can you toggle the mute in there? or does it look like it's on
[03:24] <coolstar> wafflejock: hmm, tried unmuting it and now I'm hearing myself...
[03:24] <wafflejock> coolstar, I had a similar issue and used alsamixer and pavucontrol to eventually get it working but had to fiddle around quite a bit
[03:24] <Beldar> coolstar, Have you done a search with the info from lsusb at askubuntu posting the hardware is usually prudent here.
[03:26] <coolstar> wafflejock, Beldar: this is what I see in alsamixer: https://imgur.com/8OMJ6Yh
[03:27] <wafflejock> coolstar, try to select it and hit M
[03:27] <wafflejock> think you want 00 in the bottom not MM
[03:27] <coolstar> wafflejock: tried that and I'm hearing myself on the headphones whenever I say something...
[03:28] <wafflejock> coolstar, okay so it's on then right but you don't want the monitor feedback
[03:28] <coolstar> wafflejock: how do I turn off the monitor feedback?
[03:28] <wafflejock> coolstar, think you need to change to a different card F6 and look for some sort of monitor or something like that
[03:28] <Amy_Lu_Who> Is there a terminal command to turn off my laptop mouse pad?  If so what is it?
[03:29] <wafflejock> Amy_Lu_Who, depends on your device you can use lspci to see what kind of touchpad it is then search for how to change the values it's using
[03:30] <wafflejock> mine had some settings to avoid the accidental palm touches that was disabled by default
[03:30] <Beldar> Amy_Lu_Who, I would check the manual for a key combo. Do you have a desktop and if so what is it?
[03:30] <coolstar> wafflejock: I don't see any monitor in there :/
[03:30] <Amy_Lu_Who> wafflejock, i am new to ubunto would you be so kind as to walk me through this?  (sorry, but I am determined to learn!)
[03:30] <wafflejock> coolstar, you see any sort of mixing or loopback named parts?
[03:31] <wafflejock> Amy_Lu_Who, yeah you know how to launch a terminal?
[03:31] <coolstar> wafflejock: I don't
[03:31] <Amy_Lu_Who> wafflejock, yes.  :)  and I know sudo apt get upgrade and a few others.
[03:31] <wafflejock> coolstar, not sure but I would leave the mic unmuted from an alsa perspective and maybe try the pavucontrol GUI to see if you can get any further
[03:32] <Amy_Lu_Who> Beldar, is this something I should go to the person who built my machine?
[03:32] <coolstar> wafflejock: hmm, let me install pavucontrol, one min
[03:32] <wafflejock> Amy_Lu_Who, run lcpci in the terminal
[03:32] <wafflejock> Amy_Lu_Who, it should list a bunch of your hardware, look for Synaptics or ElanTouch
[03:33] <wafflejock> or something else that sounds like a touchpad maybe
[03:33] <Amy_Lu_Who> lcpci: command not found
[03:33] <wafflejock> lspci
[03:33] <wafflejock> sorry
[03:33] <Amy_Lu_Who> do i need to type "run lcpci"
[03:33] <wafflejock> no just, lspci
[03:33] <wafflejock> I said lc at first
[03:33] <wafflejock> mistype
[03:33] <Amy_Lu_Who> wafflejock, thanks got it.
[03:34] <chriys> does someone has an idea on how to fix that error. I get it when I try to log in ssh /bin/bash: No such file or directory connection xx.xx.xx.xx closed
[03:34] <Amy_Lu_Who> wafflejock, well thats a lot of stuff. now what am i looking for?
[03:36] <_2_mya> hey
[03:36] <wafflejock> Amy_Lu_Who, Snaptics or Elantouch are two popular ones
[03:37] <_2_mya> what?
[03:37] <wafflejock> Amy_Lu_Who, but just something with PS/2 or touchpad related stuff in the line... you can just pastebin the whole thing too
[03:37] <wafflejock> _2_mya, hello
[03:37] <_2_mya> wts up
[03:37] <Amy_Lu_Who> wafflejock,  SATA Controller?
[03:37] <wafflejock> _2_mya, not much you having issues with ubuntu?
[03:37] <wafflejock> Amy_Lu_Who, nope that's Serial ATA for your hard drive
[03:38] <_2_mya> yeah :(
[03:38] <wafflejock> Amy_Lu_Who, you can just go to pastebin.com or paste.ubuntu.com in a browser and then copy and paste your console
[03:38] <wafflejock> _2_mya, what's gone wrong?
[03:38] <_2_mya> people
[03:38] <Amy_Lu_Who> wafflejock, oops.  *dunce cap* you sure you want the whole thing because i went over it twice and nothing is jumping out at me
[03:39] <wafflejock> Amy_Lu_Who, if you want to keep guessing I'll keep telling you what lines are too though that works and you'll learn more :)
[03:39] <wafflejock> Amy_Lu_Who, yeah just http://paste.ubuntu.com
[03:40] <Amy_Lu_Who> wafflejock, type that in the terminal?
[03:40] <Loshki> chriys: it's probably a server side issue. Can you login as that user/password via other means?
[03:40] <chriys> I chrooted my openssh-server but I get this error when I try to log in ssh /bin/bash: No such file or directory connection xx.xx.xx.xx closed
[03:40] <wafflejock> Amy_Lu_Who, nope just open that up in a browser
[03:40] <wafflejock> Amy_Lu_Who, there is a terminal program to do it too
[03:41] <wafflejock> Amy_Lu_Who, think it's pastebinit but I haven't used it really
[03:41] <wafflejock> !pastebinit
[03:41] <wafflejock> yeah that ^
[03:41] <coolstar> wafflejock: still doesn't appear to work in skype or audacity :/
[03:41] <coolstar> and I'm hearing everything I'm saying right now which is starting to drive me crazy :/
[03:41] <TJ-> chriys: That's what you'd expect if the chroot doesn't contain that file and supporting libraries
[03:41] <chriys> Loshki: nope sftp was working before until I remove the line forecommand internal-sftp in order to allow ssh connection
[03:42] <wafflejock> coolstar, those are just the voices in your head :) sorry not sure where else to point you at this point
[03:42] <coolstar> wafflejock: hmm, seems now mic is working in audacity
[03:42] <coolstar> but I still hear myself :/
[03:42] <chriys> TJ-: how can put those file and the library in
[03:42] <coolstar> wafflejock: if I mute the mic with the hardware switch I don't hear myself anymore...
[03:43] <Loshki> chriys: I don't chroot my ssh-server, but I agree with TJ-, you're missing stuff in your chrooted environment.
[03:43] <Amy_Lu_Who> ok so i have a browser with 25 lines of code on it...
[03:44] <chriys> Actually there nothing inside except some folder
[03:44] <chriys> Loshki: what should put in
[03:44] <wafflejock> Amy_Lu_Who, there should be a submit/paste button somewhere that then updates the URL
[03:44] <Amy_Lu_Who> wafflejock, ok so i have a browser with 25 lines of code on it...
[03:44] <wafflejock> Amy_Lu_Who, drop that to us
[03:44] <wafflejock> the new URL that is
[03:44] <TJ-> chriys: Are you using sshd_config's "ChrootDirectory" option? If so, I'd suspect ownership permissions on the path components leading up to it
[03:44] <Amy_Lu_Who> http://paste.ubuntu.com/8013518/
[03:45] <coolstar> wafflejock: is there a way I can turn off the monitor?
[03:45] <Amy_Lu_Who> wafflejock, oh that is nifty
[03:45] <wafflejock> Amy_Lu_Who, well dang it your right
[03:45] <wafflejock> I don't see it either
[03:45] <hseg> Hi. vsftpd won't accept the settings I gave it: http://sprunge.us/NKIP it either complains that: OOPS: priv_sock_get_cmd or OOPS: vsftpd: refusing to run with writable root inside chroot()
[03:45] <chriys> TJ-: yeah and the path is %h
[03:45] <wafflejock> coolstar, sorry would expect to see it somewhere in the ALSA settings really, would just try to toggle the mute on them one by one to see if there's any effect
[03:45] <Loshki> chriys: you need enough files to support a login. There are programs to help you create them because it's kind of a chore. See e.g. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BasicChroot
[03:46] <Amy_Lu_Who> wafflejock, well that means im not a complete idiot.  whew! one worry dismissed :)
[03:46] <chriys> and this is what ls -l /home return drwxr-xr-x 5 root root 4096 Aug 10 23:15 vietransf
[03:46] <wafflejock> Amy_Lu_Who, haha yeah and learned to use pastebin which is nifty
[03:46] <TJ-> chriys: does this help? http://askubuntu.com/questions/134425/how-can-i-chroot-sftp-only-ssh-users-into-their-homes
[03:46] <wafflejock> Amy_Lu_Who, but not sure why we don't see your device there you can try, sudo lshw, in the terminal
[03:46] <Beldar> coolstar, I would use the hardware info from lsusb on the web for info.
[03:47] <Amy_Lu_Who> wafflejock, yes very.  it will go in my "how to use my computer" file which has a place of honor on my desktop.  hehe
[03:47] <nikita_> Is there an Xchat for Windows?
[03:47] <Beldar> coolstar, That info should be in any inquiry here.
[03:47] <wafflejock> Amy_Lu_Who, lshw is going to give a ton more output maybe good to try the pastebinit program too
[03:47] <chriys> TJ-: that's the link I used to fix the broken pipe issue
[03:47] <coolstar> Beldar: the mic is now working with some settings changed
[03:47] <coolstar> Beldar: but I'm hearing myself through the headphones, which is super annoying
[03:47] <Beldar> cool
[03:47] <nikita_> My friends use Windows, so I need an Xchat for windows.How can I get it?
[03:47] <TJ-> chriys: Are you seeing errors in auth.log on the server?
[03:48] <chriys> what's the location of that file
[03:48] <wafflejock> Amy_Lu_Who, you can do this
[03:48] <coolstar> Beldar: any way I can stop it from playing back the microphone on the headphones?
[03:48] <Beldar> nikita_, hexchat is a free forl of xchat
[03:48] <wafflejock> sudo apt-get install pastebinit
[03:48] <Beldar> fork*
[03:48] <wafflejock> sudo lshw | pastebinit
[03:48] <coolstar> Beldar: hearing oneself like that gets annoying really quickly :(
[03:48] <wafflejock> Amy_Lu_Who, ^ that will give you a URL with the output
[03:48] <chriys> TJ-: what's the location opf auth.log
[03:48] <Loshki> nikita: more opinions on ##windows probably...
[03:49] <TJ-> chriys: Same as all the other log files: "/var/log/"
[03:49] <jorge> gnu/linux
[03:49] <Beldar> coolstar, no idea, seems like a standard working situation if headphones rather than a single ear bud...etc
[03:49] <andrea_> ciao a tutti
[03:49] <andrej> I have a bunch of machines sitting on private network (no route to the outside). They receive updates via apt-cacher-ng, which works fine for most things. What doesn't work is things from PPA; I'd like to be able to update PPA packages, but it keeps telling me BADSIG, even though I manually installed the correct key, and verified w/ "apt-key finger" that it's present.
[03:49] <jorge> what happened to gobuntu?
[03:49] <TJ-> chriys: it's up there prominently on the askubuntu question I pointed you to
[03:49] <wafflejock> Amy_Lu_Who, once we know exactly what hardware you have (or at least a good idea) we can look up how to change whatever for it specifically
[03:49] <coolstar> Beldar: that doesn't happen in Windows though
[03:49] <andrea_> !list
[03:49] <andrej> Is aptitude trying to verify the key against the server?
[03:49] <Amy_Lu_Who> wafflejock, ok.  yup thats a lot of stuff to sift through.  let me see if i can remember the pastebin.
[03:50] <hseg> vsftpd won't accept the settings I gave it: http://sprunge.us/NKIP it either complains that: OOPS: priv_sock_get_cmd or OOPS: vsftpd: refusing to run with writable root inside chroot()
[03:50] <Beldar> coolstar, Bro, windows is of no relevance here in pretty much any situation, I use windows, it is just not a a relevant comparison.
[03:51] <wafflejock> true good to know it works but it will certainly work differently
[03:51] <chriys> here is a block of line from auth.log http://pastebin.com/TrrTP1vg
[03:51] <wafflejock> totally different software
[03:51] <Amy_Lu_Who> wafflejock, http://paste.ubuntu.com/8013586/
[03:51] <wafflejock> cool 1 sec
[03:51] <Loshki> hseg: so is it true? Is your chrooted root partition writable?
[03:51] <wafflejock> hseg, believe you need to make the root folder for vsftpd non writeable it can have writebale sub folders
[03:51] <Amy_Lu_Who> wafflejock, (400 lines wow.)
[03:51] <chriys> TJ-: here is a block of line from auth.log http://pastebin.com/TrrTP1vg
[03:52] <hseg> The directory I gave it is mode 775, group-owned by ftp
[03:52] <hseg> All I want is to allow anonymous up/down-loads to a specific directory, having all files there being owned by www-data.
[03:52] <wafflejock> Amy_Lu_Who, yeah and still see nothing for synaptics Elantouch or touch itself when I do find on the document.... bewildering... you know the make/model number of the laptop (should be on the case or on a sticker on the bottom)
[03:54] <Hilikus> when i log in to my guest account on ubuntu there is no internet connection. if i try to connect from the network manager toolbar it says insufficient privileges
[03:55] <Hilikus> how can i fix this
[03:55] <wafflejock> Amy_Lu_Who, if this search came up right it's an ELAN touchpad but not sure why we weren't seeing that in lspci (I have one too) http://www.driverscape.com/manufacturers/notebook/laptops-desktops/w65_67sz/106503
[03:55] <TJ-> chriys: Best thing to do is start a 2nd sshd instance on a different port, in the foreground ("/usr/sbin/sshd -p 1234 -d"), then try connecting to it and watch the messages it spits out on the console for clues.
[03:56] <chriys> lol it refuses connexions
[03:56] <wafflejock> Amy_Lu_Who, ah try... xinput list
[03:56] <hseg> chriys: You might want to add -D to that - it will turn on debug mode, which will give you more data to work with.
[03:56] <goodwin> Beldar: how do i make a bootable ubuntu usb?
[03:56] <hseg> /usr/sbin/sshd -dDp 222
[03:56] <Amy_Lu_Who> wafflejock, i don't know either.  i did not build the machine and i despise the touchpad with the fire of a thousand suns.  especially in a spreadsheet.  i bump it when typing and loose data.  grr.  (oops rant sorry
[03:57] <chriys> oh ok
[03:57] <wafflejock> Amy_Lu_Who, hah yeah I had the same problem there's a way to use xinput to change a setting in there to block palm touches
[03:57] <TJ-> chriys: If it is behind a firewall, that would be expected. Test it on localhost rather than externally, or open the firewall port temporarily.
[03:57] <wafflejock> Amy_Lu_Who, it seemed to work pretty well
[03:57] <Beldar> goodwin, There is a number of usb loaders unetbootin is used there are a handful of others.
[03:57] <chriys> hmm ok let me try something first
[03:58] <hseg> So why am I getting these errors?
[03:58] <wafflejock> Amy_Lu_Who, there's quite a bit of info here but this page might lead you to the result you want if you have the time to try some things out http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2067590
[03:58] <Amy_Lu_Who> wafflejock, ok i will pastebin this too.  yeah i need to be able to turn it back on in case i need to use laptop as a laptop
[03:58] <goodwin> Beldar: thanks.
[03:58] <hseg> Isn't there a simple way to do this seemingly trivial thing?
[03:58] <wafflejock> Amy_Lu_Who, for me it was just a matter of using an xinput command to set a property though
[03:59] <Beldar> goodwin, No problem, pendrivelinux has windows usable usb loaders as well if you need to look around.
[03:59] <Amy_Lu_Who> wafflejock, http://paste.ubuntu.com/8013617/
[03:59] <goodwin> Beldar: how muck disk should be allocated for ubuntu and swap partitioin?
[03:59] <wafflejock> hseg, there is a security problem with a writeable root vsftpd folder that allows an attacker to break out of the jail
[04:00] <TJ-> chriys: I'm not sure why you're trying to force a chroot but then expect a command external to sshd to work. You need to carefully read "man sshd_config" and the explanation of "ChrootDirectory"
[04:00] <Beldar> goodwin, Minimum of 6 gigs for install, and swap would be equal to you ram if you want to hibernate. I you have like 20 gigs ram let us know that.
[04:00] <hseg> Oh? A) Could you give a link? B) How, then, do I give anonymous access to a specific folder?
[04:00] <Amy_Lu_Who> wafflejock, thats what i should do.  so if i plug in the mouse the pad would be blocked automatically!!
[04:00] <chriys> TJ-: I'm following this link https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BasicChroot
[04:01] <goodwin> Beldar: i have 8g ram
[04:01] <Amy_Lu_Who> wafflejock, now i see synaptics
[04:01] <Beldar> goodwin, 6 gigs is not much room however.
[04:01] <Beldar> goodwin, Depends on your use for a swap than
[04:02] <goodwin> Beldar: I want to compile android from source code
[04:02] <wafflejock> hseg, I followed this guide to setup vsftp, but ultimately I am now using git and jenkins to get things onto the server and to fix permissions for deployed stuff http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=518293
[04:03] <john2x> hello. how do I run a python script as another user (i.e. via sudo -u someuser), but keep my current virtualenv active for the script to run?
[04:03] <Beldar> goodwin, Probably best to have a 8 gig swap if you have the room than.
[04:04] <Amy_Lu_Who> wafflejock, i don't know how to code.  is that a googleable question or one for another chatroom?  I feel bad monopolizing your time like this.
[04:04] <Beldar> goodwin, Isn't this a reoccurring thing for you?
[04:05] <goodwin> Beldar: at least once
[04:05] <Beldar> goodwin, Just seems familiar your nick and this android compiling.
[04:06] <goodwin> Beldar: not sure how often
[04:06] <wafflejock> Amy_Lu_Who, it's not a big deal I can walk away whenever (which btw I might sometimes I usually come back) but now that you know the touchpad type and your OS (lsb_release -a, to see details) you can probably find an answer with google
[04:06] <Beldar> goodwin, Have you ever succeeded in any of it or are you jsut getting info?
[04:06] <Beldar> just*
[04:07] <goodwin> Beldar: i did it 4 years ago once
[04:08] <goodwin> Beldar: maybe that's another person you met
[04:08] <andrej> I have a bunch of machines sitting on private network (no route to the outside). They receive updates via apt-cacher-ng, which works fine for most things. What doesn't work is things from PPA; I'd like to be able to update PPA packages, but it keeps telling me BADSIG, even though I manually installed the correct key, and verified w/ "apt-key finger" that it's present.
[04:09] <andrej> Is aptitude trying to verify the key against the server?
[04:09] <TJ-> andrej: how did you manually install the key?
[04:09] <Beldar> andrej, PPA's are not supported here, however make sure they have a release for the installs./
[04:11] <Amy_Lu_Who> wafflejock, I googled and got: http://askubuntu.com/questions/65951/how-to-disable-the-touchpad
[04:12] <Beldar> Amy_Lu_Who, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SynapticsTouchpad
[04:12] <Amy_Lu_Who> wafflejock, if i put "xinput set-prop 12 "Device Enabled" 0" in the terminal will i be able to turn on the touchpad again? (and how)
[04:13] <savem14> wahhhhhttt
[04:13] <savem14> hermahermahermmmmm
[04:14] <goodwin> Beldar: can i have separate system and user data on ubuntu? like C: and D: on windows, so that reinstall windows only affect C:
[04:15] <Beldar> goodwin, Not sure I understand.
[04:16] <chriys> TJ-: this is what the command you gave returns http://pastebin.com/YGYZMBVG
[04:16] <Beldar> goodwin, ubuntu users often have a separate home partition for reinstalls of the OS.
[04:17] <Amy_Lu_Who> Beldar, wow thank you.  I completely over complicated that.
[04:17] <andrej> TJ- ... got it of the ppa web-page, saved it to a file, and "apt-key add file"
[04:17] <Beldar> goodwin, But the addition of I would believe be SDK not sure.
[04:17] <andrej> verified with apt-key finger that it worked
[04:18] <andrej> but apt still talks about untrusted packages, which makes me think that it is trying to a key-server
[04:18] <andrej> which it can't reach
[04:18] <andrej> aptitude, that is
[04:18] <goodwin> Beldar: I don't get you
[04:19] <Beldar> goodwin, I assume the SDK reference?
[04:20] <TJ-> andrej: Was that on the clients that use the proxy?
[04:20] <wafflejock> Amy_Lu_Who, just use a 1 in place of the 0
[04:20] <Beldar> goodwin, https://developer.android.com/sdk/index.html  I assume you would use this is all.
[04:21] <wafflejock> Amy_Lu_Who, you can save that little script into a file and give it a .sh extension then make it executable (sudo chmod u+x targetFile) then you just run the script like ./activateTouchPad.sh anytime you want to activated it or deactivated it, there's also ways to map keybindings using the setting usually to call a script so you can bind it to whatever key combo you want then too
[04:22] <Akiva-Thinkpad> how do I test my new keyboard layout? I editted the text document, but the changes are not showing up when I reload the layout
[04:22] <Beldar> goodwin, better info, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AndroidSDK
[04:22] <Akiva-Thinkpad> do I need to restart my computer?
[04:23] <Amy_Lu_Who> wafflejock, oh cool.  thank you! I have to save the scripts for another time I need to go now.  Really appreciate all the help.
[04:23] <Amy_Lu_Who> wafflejock, but that did make it to my "how to" file.
[04:24] <goodwin> Beldar: forget about SDK. just for general case, on linux it seems there is no clear separation between os and user because it is often /usr for system and /opt for 3rd party install
[04:24] <andrej> TJ- yes
[04:25] <br_oken> Hello! I just reformated my server to Ubuntu Server 14.04.1 . I used to be able to mount a remote Windows Share using Webmin but now I do not see the "smbfs" option anymore. I tried typing "smbmount" in CLI but it says "no such command". What do ?
[04:25] <goodwin> Beldar: it is not like windows C: for OS and D for the rest
[04:28] <andrej> TJ-  ones that use the proxy but DO have direct internet access don't display the problem
[04:28] <Beldar> goodwin, using windows a base for understanding linux is a waste of time, nothing even close really.
[04:28] <andrej> which makes me think that aptitude must be doing something with the ppa server on a non-standard port
[04:28] <Beldar> as a*
[04:29] <andrej> anyway ... I'm off for the day ... spent the afternoon manually logging into machines and updating them :/ ... had enough for today
[04:30] <chriys> is there a way to reverse latest command I did ?
[04:31] <somsip> chriys: what was it?
[04:31] <chriys> chroot /home /bin/bash
[04:32] <chriys> seems that everything is screwed I can't run any command. They are all unknown
[04:32] <owen1_> using the terminal, how to tell if i use wired or wireless connection?
[04:33] <goodwin> Beldar: so how do i best organize partitions for accommodating update and upgrade?
[04:33] <somsip> chriys: I would guess 'chroot /' but it is a guess.
[04:33] <chriys> I can't even use the basic text editor nano
[04:34] <br_oken> am I to use cifs instead of smbfs then ?
[04:34] <somsip> owen1_: ifconfig will show either ethX (wired) or wlanX (wireless)
[04:34] <owen1_> somsip: i see both entries
[04:34] <Beldar> goodwin, C and D are just partitions in windows or HD's ubuntu can have multiple partitions as well and HD's. A separate home is used for distro upgrades in general yes, you can have just partitions for data etc, and a shred one with winmdows in a ntfs format if needed.
[04:35] <Beldar> shared*
[04:35] <somsip> owen1_: but one will have an IP on it and one won't, unless both are active
[04:35] <owen1_> somsip: both have 'inet addr' but it's different!
[04:35] <owen1_> 107 and 106
[04:35] <owen1_> (at the end)
[04:35] <somsip> owen1_: looks like both are active then
[04:36] <owen1_> somsip: what does it mean? which one is actualy being used?
[04:36] <chriys> how to get out of chroot
[04:36] <somsip> owen1_: sorry - not sure
[04:36] <owen1_> somsip: no worries
[04:36] <owen1_> thanks
[04:37] <destrier> can anyone recommend any FOSS games similar to Plants vs. Zombies?
[04:38] <Beldar> destrier, Try #ubuntu-offtopic this is support.
[04:39] <macsplean1> @destrier not FOSS, but warcraft III tower defense is similar
[04:39] <Beldar> maybe ##linux if registered with freenode
[04:39] <macsplean1> anyone here know how to make the bash prompt appear at the top of terminal instead of the bottom?
[04:39] <somsip> macsplean1: type "clear"
[04:39] <destrier> thanks macsplean1 sounds interesting
[04:41] <macsplean1> somsip i was thinking of something different see http://serverfault.com/questions/152310/reverse-bash-console-text-flow although no answer is there
[04:41] <somsip> macsplean1: hideous. I can't help you.
[04:42] <mz125> #PART
[04:52] <br_oken> update: my smbfs problem is resolved.
[04:53] <donald> which ubuntu distro is the best
[04:53] <br_oken> depends on your needs I guess
[04:54] <br_oken> i wouldn't use Ubuntu Server for a desktop use
[04:54] <br_oken> i tried mint for a while, wasn't my taste
[04:54] <donald> same
[04:55] <donald> lubunt something wrong with it
[04:55] <Abhijit> donald, try elementary os
[04:55] <donald> works ok then
[04:56] <donald> has anyone tried pinguy os
[04:57] <chriys> I'm back I disable the chroot jails. does someone has a link for chroot jail that also allow ssh an sftp login ?
[04:58] <br_oken> is there something out there that is more user-friendly and estheticaly presentable than Grub ?
[05:00] <morgan_freeman> you're trying to troll us aren't you?
[05:01] <br_oken> no i just think it is ugly and I doubt the average user needs to have 5 new boot options each time the kernel gets updated
[05:01] <br_oken> just my 2 cents
[05:01] <br_oken> I can live with it. It becomes more annoying when u want to set grandma with a Ubuntu install
[05:02] <br_oken> or any 'nux install for that matter
[05:04] <donald> well nite all
[05:11] <br_oken> I get this message from time to time on my fresh Ubu Server 14.04.1 install :
[05:11] <br_oken> no talloc stackframe at ../source3/param/loadparm.c:4864, leaking memory
[05:11] <br_oken> what do ?
[05:18] <Loshki> br_oken: 14.04.1, being a dot-1 release, isn't ready for "grandma" yet. Use 12.04.latest...
[05:22] <Loshki> br_oken: see also http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2214042
[05:29] <wasi> Hi
[05:30] <br_oken> my memory leak is 14.04 related, but the grub thing has been my pet-peeve for years
[05:30] <wasi> how to reset time and date in ubuntu
[06:01] <chriys> is it worth going to ubuntu 14.04 ?
[06:05] <Artemis3> chriys, from? what you do?
[06:06] <chriys> from Ubuntu 12.04. A basic Lamp Server and Media Server
[06:06] <chriys> plus email server nothing really special.
[06:06] <Artemis3> chriys, if its working perfect i'd say no
[06:07] <chriys> But the Media Server will require a lot of resources
[06:07] <chriys> I'm reinstall from scratch which one you think will be better
[06:07] <Artemis3> chriys, oh in that case you can go ahead
[06:07] <TBotNik> All: having localhost issues! One Kubuntu 12.04 LTS Desktop
[06:07] <chriys> alright
[06:07] <chriys> thx
[06:08] <Artemis3> chriys, but why bother what is working?
[06:08] <Artemis3> chriys, well have fun
[06:08] <TBotNik> All: Error => The requested URL / was not found on this server
[06:08] <chriys> if you think one of them will give me less issue i'll go for that one
[06:08] <jorge> omg just shot a huge load
[06:09] <Artemis3> chriys, but you said you already have a 12.04 server working
[06:10] <chriys> well it's a vps I deleted it and now I have to recreate so I'm wondering which version to take
[06:11] <chriys> TBotNik: Had the same issue previously haven't been able to figure it out. All I know is that an app I installed my be the potential cause of the issue
[06:11] <wafflejock> chriys, would go 14.04
[06:11] <chriys> ight thx
[06:11] <wafflejock> chriys, longer support and newer packages and both are stable
[06:12] <chriys> great
[06:13] <chriys> TBotNik: I installed Kaltura and Red5 and after playing with hosts. The fight started.
[06:13] <chriys> unfortunately I can't tell you more than that
[06:14] <jorge> omg
[06:14] <TBotNik> chriys: Think it is in one of the alias defs but do not know where to look/check!
[06:15] <newbiee> hi
[06:15] <TBotNik> chriys: Looking at Apache2 logs now!
[06:15] <newbiee> apt-get install znc will install me which version of znc?
[06:16] <chriys> k
[06:16] <wafflejock> newbiee, http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=znc
[06:16] <hseg> vsftpd is not honoring allow_writeable_chroot. It is version 3.0.2. What am I doing wrong?!
[06:17] <wafflejock> hseg, not sure it's pretty particular with the config settings safe to assume you restarted vsftpd service yea?
[06:17] <hseg> Yes.
[06:18] <TBotNik> chriys: Error.log show 3 lines saying => Mon Aug 11 01:06:21 2014] [error] [client 127.0.0.1] File does not exist: /etc/apache2/htdocs
[06:18] <wafflejock> hseg, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/vsftpd/+bug/1348972
[06:18] <hseg> wafflejock: How is that related
[06:18] <hseg> ?
[06:18] <chriys> TBotNik: lol I had the exact same error msg
[06:19] <chriys> but didn't know what to do.
[06:19] <chriys> i will be glad to have a fix
[06:19] <newbiee> wafflejock thx. how can i learn it on command line without browsing web?
[06:20] <newbiee> Ubuntu 12.04.5 LTS
[06:20] <wafflejock> hseg, sorry thought it was about building it for the allow writeable root option here's a bug with some discussion about the actual issue but says it should be in that version https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/vsftpd/+bug/1065714
[06:20] <TBotNik> chriys: htdocs is only suppose to exist in /var/www and only if you are performing muliple hostings
[06:20] <chriys> well I got 2 virtual hosts on that server
[06:21] <wafflejock> newbiee, not sure honestly sudo apt-cache search znc shows you the info about it but not version
[06:21] <newbiee> hmm ok thank you
[06:21] <wafflejock> newbiee, http://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/6284/check-package-version-using-apt-get-aptitude
[06:21] <wafflejock> newbiee, np
[06:21] <TBotNik> chriys: I never use virtual host I just usually run over 2 aliases and no virtual hosts
[06:22] <chriys> why no virtual hosts
[06:22] <wafflejock> I use virtual hosts for everything now
[06:22] <wafflejock> hosting multiple domains for real but also on local it seems easier to just setup my hosts file and make up local domains
[06:23] <wafflejock> that said I don't have htdocs
[06:23] <wafflejock> I think that was in older versions of apache
[06:24] <newbiee> wafflejock i see apt-cache policy znc shows the install candidate. thanks
[06:24] <hseg> wafflejock: thanks, but Version: 3.0.2-1ubuntu2.14.04.1
[06:25] <TBotNik> chriys: You need no virtual hosts if you are not hosting for other 3rd parties.  If you host for other 3rd parties, then you should have a harden server and each outside account then gets a virtual host.  Alternate is if you have to run spoof testing for something then you virtual host but usually then to alternate port like 8080 or 9080 or something else you choose.
[06:26] <TBotNik> chriys: Well something has set itself to point to htdocs in one of the conf files so looking at that now!
[06:27] <chriys> let me know when you find it
[06:27] <wafflejock> newbiee, cool good to know, I have generally relied on that packages site
[06:36] <TBotNik> All: OK found all the htdocs call in the apache config files deleted and restarted but still getting this htdocs error!
[06:37] <chriys_> o_O
[06:37] <newbiee> wafflejock the command was written on the page you provided already. :)
[06:38] <smarin> marin
[06:38] <smarin> saf
[06:38] <smarin> asf
[06:38] <smarin> asf
[06:55] <TBotNik> All: Need an apache expert.  Localhost not working.  Apache log originally showing /etc/apache2/htdocs does not exist error. Thought that was coming from some config issue but now see it is produced every time I try to access localhost.  Really stumped
[06:55] <somsip> TBotNik: try #apache
[06:57] <TBotNik> somsip: Actually is #httpd and already posted there with no response!
[06:57] <JNixx> Couldn't that also be a loopback issue?
[06:58] <somsip> TBotNik: where is /etc/apache/htdocs referred to in your config or virtual hosts files?
[06:58] <helmut_> hi
[06:58] <edition> guten tag!
[07:01] <TBotNik> somsip: No, used to be, so cleared that, restarted apache.  Still have error!  Thinking something changed that makes this some default.  I can dump the apache2.conf and the 2 included dirs to PB if that will help?
[07:02] <somsip> TBotNik: so grep -nir htdocs /etc/apache2 gives no results at all, but the error suggests something is pointing to htdocs?
[07:04] <TBotNik> somsip: Yup nothing with that cmd
[07:04] <somsip> TBotNik: what version of apache? Have you tried disabled all mods then reenablign them one by one?
[07:05] <TBotNik> somsip: Everytime I run or refresh browser calling "localhost" it add that error to the log
[07:05] <TBotNik> somsip: Let me try disabling the included dirs first
[07:06] <somsip> TBotNik: okay, but that doesn't answer the question. Also, check the contents of /etc/apache2/sites-available/000-default.conf (if on apache 2.4 on 14.04) or 00-default if on 2.2 on 12.04
[07:08] <perazika> is it possible to use old ubuntu 8.04 today in 2014, to get new flash player and new reload packing manager?
[07:08] <SwedeMike> perazika: what's a "reload packing manager"?
[07:08] <somsip> perazika: 8.04 went end-of-line some time ago
[07:09] <somsip> !hardy | perazika
[07:09] <TBotNik> somsip: Was ahead of you on the 00-default, but "conf.d" and "sites-enabled" are the 2 included dirs and disabling both those, I still have the error produced when I try to run localhost
[07:09] <somsip> TBotNik: what version of ubuntu and apache are you running?
[07:10] <TBotNik> somsip: 12.04 runs apache 2.4. You have to go back to 10.04  for 2.2
[07:10] <somsip> !info apache2 precise
[07:11] <somsip> TBotNik: the official version of Apache for 12.04 is 2.2.22 as above. So have you installed 2.4 from unofficial sources?
[07:12] <perazika> I now that but for my older hardware new ubuntu not work correctly
[07:12] <sfn> I have installed Xubuntu 14.04 in Dell Inspiron Laptop. I have tried to install b43 wireless driver through package manager. Package manager is hanging as "(downloads.openwrt.org HTTP request sent, awaiting response... Read error (Connection timed out) in headers.
[07:12] <sfn> Retrying}
[07:12] <somsip> perazika: maybe a lightweight, current version of ubuntu might be worth trying. Like lubuntu or xubuntu
[07:13] <somsip> !broadcom | sfn (I think that's a broadcom driver isn't it?)
[07:13] <TBotNik> somsip: what is cmd for apache ver?  Would use phpinfo() cmd if localhost was working
[07:14] <ztane> is there any facebook messenger/desktop integration that would work nicely with unity now
[07:14] <TBotNik> somsip: I know I've upgraded several times!
[07:15] <sfn> @ubottu, thanks for your message, yo are correct, now the issue is that I could not close the package manager as it is still trying for the connection
[07:15] <TBotNik> somsip: Mostly when adding frameworks, since I support the top 10 php frameworks
[07:15] <somsip> TBotNik:  sudo /usr/sbin/apache2 -v
[07:15] <perazika> I try lubuntu but not work, only ubuntu 8.04 work perfect, but I need some new aplications and I dont know how to get them in old ubuntu
[07:16] <somsip> perazika: you can't, officially. Which is why you really need a better solution that using a very outdated version
[07:16] <ztane> - that is, firefox notifications do not work, unity webapp is some cr*p that opens the facebook front page in a browser window - everything else works except the chat
[07:17] <somsip> TBotNik: if you've been upgrading PHP/Apache from PPAs to support new framework features, maybe things have ended up a bit messy
[07:17] <TBotNik> somsip: Kubuntu 12.04 LTS Apache 2.2.22 so totally default it looks!
[07:17] <somsip> TBotNik: so back to the last point before you said you had 2.4 installed...
[07:19] <XYZAFFA1R> I am trying to compile a package from source and it fails on the "make" step, I followed the read me perfectly, here is my terminal output: http://sprunge.us/UjWR
[07:19] <somsip> TBotNik: ok - lets see some pastes. Copy of the error message for starters
[07:19] <TBotNik> somsip: No most upgrades and strange thing happen from Pear.  That is the alias I originally found pointing to the "/etc/apache2/htdocs", and the error is correct this dir does not exist and never has on this machine
[07:19] <somsip> XYZAFFA1R: you need to contact the author of openspades (assuming that is the code you're trying to compile)
[07:19] <XYZAFFA1R> somsip, Why?
[07:20] <somsip> XYZAFFA1R: because they wrote it, so they will be used to troubleshooting it
[07:21] <sfn> How to close the hanging Xubuntu 14.04 package manger ?
[07:21] <somsip> TBotNik: try the grep -nir htdocs on your PEAR install dir
[07:23] <somsip> TBotNik: and sudo apache2ctl -S might show something too
[07:23] <somsip> TBotNik: also, when did it last work, and what have you changed since then
[07:24] <TBotNik> somsip: logs in PB at: http://pastebin.com/835Fd2JF
[07:26] <TBotNik> somsip: return from apache2ctl -S =>  apache2ctl -S
[07:26] <TBotNik> apache2ctl -S
[07:26] <TBotNik> apache2: Could not reliably determine the server's fully qualified domain name, using 127.0.0.1 for ServerName
[07:26] <TBotNik> [Mon Aug 11 02:25:19 2014] [warn] NameVirtualHost *:80 has no VirtualHosts
[07:26] <TBotNik> VirtualHost configuration:
[07:26] <TBotNik> Syntax OK
[07:28] <server-draxxy> Hello guys, I seem to be having trouble with my server.
[07:28] <somsip> !details | server-draxxy
[07:29] <TBotNik> somsip: I changed nothing, it just quit working.  Was working a WP project where we got locked out of WP Admin on remote site, so downloaded to LH and can not get to the files and have done nothing at all to the box.  Have the same problem with SAMBA, suddenly quit working on all 4 12.04 local boxes.
[07:29] <server-draxxy> I have disabled UFW to allow all ports incoming/outgoing but I still cannot remotely access the server through SSH
[07:30] <somsip> server-draxxy: connect with ssh -vvv which will output more information
[07:31] <White_Cat> My rdsnapshot task doesnt seem to be running
[07:31] <server-draxxy> I'm using: ssh -R 22:121.220.137.234:22 server@ubuntu-serv with no luck.
[07:31] <RaduIoan> hello people
[07:31] <White_Cat> hourly doesnt auto run and daily weekly doesnt even run manually
[07:31] <RaduIoan> i`m havibg sound problems can someone helps me
[07:31] <somsip> TBotNik: I don't find that happens much with computers, unless there is an underlying hardward problem which also seems unlikely. Things don't tend to stop working. They get changed, and then stop working
[07:31] <White_Cat> may I have some help troubleshooting this?
[07:32] <server-draxxy> somsip: I'm using: ssh -R 22:121.220.137.234:22 server@ubuntu-serv with no luck.
[07:32] <TBotNik> somsip: Added my apache.conf to PB at: http://pastebin.com/835Fd2JF
[07:32] <cuqaaa> hey, i have a problem logging in to my user account with ubuntu 14.04, guest account works fine, but normal login does not start unity properly
[07:32] <somsip> server-draxxy: so connect with -vvv and get more verbose output.
[07:33] <cuqaaa> I see the background image and the desktop, but no taskbar, cant start any program, etc
[07:33] <TBotNik> You can see where I commented out the include dirs
[07:33] <mat619> Hi there. I need help with a fresh 14.04.1 install I did on a Jetway server mainboard based machine - I'm experiencing several issues, let's start with the most severe one: eth0 is a Realtek RTL 8111/6168/8411 rev 06, driver in use is the r8169, cable and switch are perfectly OK - but I get about 20-30% packet loss, and the switch complains about tons of FCS and Tx/Rx errors on the port I attached the machine to.
[07:33] <server-draxxy> somsip: still with -R or not?
[07:33] <cuqaaa> but I did not make any changes to configuration files or whatsoever
[07:33] <mat619> This box can't even be accessed via ssh, that's how bad the packet loss and error count is. Any idea what might be causing this?
[07:33] <somsip> server-draxxy: I would suggest using the most basic format possible to exclude any other problems
[07:34] <TBotNik> mat619: You sure you have the correct drivers and that the NIC was good?  Is it onboard NIC or addin?
[07:35] <somsip> TBotNik: I'm not sure what you're trying to achieve now. You've disabled all sites and conf.d. I suggested disabling mods. And you've said somethign about PEAR modules, but claimed you've not changed anything.
[07:35] <XYZAFFA1R> somsip, Maybe some one else here knows the problem though, is it such a bad idea to try that?
[07:35] <somsip> XYZAFFA1R: how long since you last asked? How many people have offered advice? There's your answer.
[07:35] <XYZAFFA1R> somsip, :(
[07:36] <XYZAFFA1R> somsip, It works on 14.04 but I'm not install 14.04 just for this
[07:36] <mat619> TBotNik: No, I'm not sure tbh - never had issues with autodetecting / driver module loading and RTL81xx cards. The server is brand new from the manufacturer, so should be OK I guess. The RTL is onboard, but bus-wise attached via PCI-E it seems
[07:37] <TBotNik> somsip: Had not changed anything before LH quit working.  Changed everything since then to try to make it work.  Can uncomment the include dirs and then send /conf.d/aliases.conf and the 000-default to PB if that helps
[07:37] <RaduIoan> sound had a drastic decrease after two days of installation
[07:38] <RaduIoan> now not working at all
[07:38] <wafflejock> oooo just found gnome-tweak-tool let me change everything I wasn't liking about gnome, super happy now
[07:39] <server-draxxy> somsip: i'm just running with 'ssh -P 22 121.220.137.234 -vvv' now.
[07:39] <somsip> server-draxxy: ssh -vvv user@server
[07:40] <TBotNik> mat619: Onboard NICs and there drivers are commonly problematic as many are experimented with, so need driver tweaks!  I'm not good at that but really ran into it hard with my laptop.  Was Centrino 100N wireless, requiring iwlwifi6, which is not downloadable anywhere on the net.  Had to get new LIVEDVD and reload machine to fix it.
[07:40] <wafflejock> XYZAFFA1R, the output from the program doesn't really leave much to be searched for Error 1 from compiling random cpp code isn't going to come back with much useful
[07:41] <server-draxxy> somsip: 'debug1: connect to address 121.220.137.234 port 22: Operation timed out'
[07:41] <somsip> server-draxxy: and -p for ssh for port, -P for scp for port
[07:41] <XYZAFFA1R> wafflejock, so nothing I can really do?
[07:41] <server-draxxy> somsip: it has already recognised the correct port.
[07:41] <wafflejock> XYZAFFA1R, like somesip said need to contact the developers if the README doesn't tell you anything about debugging
[07:42] <clouder007> please kindly tell me where to find for about importing boot images in maas , I have tryied everything in internet but still it seems difficult to do so. i am desperate  HELP.............................................
[07:42] <somsip> server-draxxy: is the ssh daemon set up to allow password based logins?
[07:42] <mat619> TBotNik: The RTL 81xx series is very common in both desktop and server systems. Either mine here came broken from the factory, or the driver has issues
[07:43] <server-draxxy> somsip: no, but when I try any other port that is forward (e.g 25566) it has a fit at me because that's my Apache2 port. So it shows that ports are not the issue.
[07:43] <somsip> server-draxxy: well, that tells you that connectivity is not an issue.
[07:44] <server-draxxy> somsip: i'll try a quick ssh service restart and just check if it fixes or not.
[07:44] <somsip> server-draxxy: check the sshd_config to make sure it is allowing what you need to do
[07:46] <clouder007> anybody atleast tell me which is the irc for cloud
[07:47] <haboqueferus> for cloud?
[07:47] <clouder007> yes
[07:47] <clouder007> for cloud
[07:47] <Toolkitman> hi
[07:47] <somsip> !alis | clouder007 (not sure what you mean, but you can search with this)
[07:47] <frib> is bluetooth supposed to work out of the box in ubuntu 14?
[07:48] <cfhowlett> !bluetooth > frib
[07:48] <RaduIoan> sound had a drastic decrease after two days of installation laptop is asus x54h
[07:48] <edition> is there a great Windows 7 theme for xfce/xubuntu?
[07:48] <Toolkitman> i have installed Ubuntu Unity on my Pandaboard, but seems Video Drivers are not installing
[07:49] <RaduIoan> and the linux distribution is linux mint ciannamon 17
[07:49] <frib> cfhowlett, that link seems to be for linux 10 and 11
[07:50] <cfhowlett> frib, ah, updating is required!  for BT, methodology should still work
[07:51] <frib> cfhowlett, for example i don't know where these simple-agent and test-device scripts are
[07:52] <cfhowlett> frib, I've never used BT.  repeat your question directed at the general channel.
[07:52] <edition> strange. I added the latest Inkscape PPA, but it reverts to the older version...
[07:53] <cynicallemon> edition: why do you want a windoze 7 theme?
[07:53] <Toolkitman> it's awesome
[07:53] <frib> i am trying to connect to bluetooth devices in ubuntu 14, can see them but can't connect .. does anyone know if there is a documentation for bluetooth in ubuntu 14 or how to solve this problem?
[07:55] <edition> inkscape PPA wont work.
[07:55] <cfhowlett> edition, PPA?  Inkscape is in the repos
[07:55] <edition> no. I want a recent version.
[07:55] <moein> hi every body, I wanna bypass our country INTERNET restriction by using ssh and VPS server, any body can help?
[07:55] <edition> !offtopic
[07:55] <cynicallemon> edition: then contact the maintaners of the ppa
[07:56] <willwork4foo> moein: PrivateInternetAccess
[07:56] <server-draxxy> somsip: I've checked sshd_config & only port 22 is given.
[07:56] <moein> willwork4foo,  explain more...;)
[07:56] <frib> i got this from dmesg: [    5.540803] Bluetooth: can't load firmware, may not work correctly.  is there a way to fix this?
[07:57] <TBotNik> somsip: OK upgraded the PB to include the 2 .conf files
[07:57] <server-draxxy> somsip: i'm in through ssh port 25567
[07:58] <cfhowlett> edition you did purge the repo Inkscape before installing the PPA, yes?
[07:58] <edition> yes
[07:59] <TBotNik> somsip: Notice the nameserver lookup is off so turning it on, as I have a name in the nameserver file.
[07:59] <cynicallemon> moein: if you mean ssh tunneling via VPN on a VP then this may get you off to a start - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SSH_VPN
[07:59] <cfhowlett> edition, if you truly deleted the repo version and actually installed the PPA version, then the ppa is the current version available to you.
[07:59] <edition> ko
[07:59] <edition> ok
[08:00] <cfhowlett> edition, 0.48.4   in my machine
[08:00] <edition> there is a new version (stable)
[08:01] <edition> 0.48.5
[08:01] <willwork4foo> moein: www.privateinternetaccess.com
[08:01] <cfhowlett> edition, IMHO grabbing shiny new stuff just because it's shiny and new if frequently more trouble than it's worth, especially the case for PPA's.  But ... ymmv
[08:02] <edition> nevermind. what about the Windows 7 theme :)
[08:02] <cynicallemon> cfhowlett, thats what debian say about ubuntu :)
[08:02] <moein> cynicallemon, yes it is, but the problem is, i am looking for free VPN server.
[08:03] <cynicallemon> moein: http://freevpn.me/
[08:03] <moein> willwork4foo, thanks, but the url is inaccessible in my country!
[08:04] <cfhowlett> moein, suggestion: find your local ubuntu or linux user group.  ask them. they would likely know.
[08:04] <moein> cynicallemon,  thanks, but it is inaccessible in my country!
[08:04] <cynicallemon> moein: can you use tor to access those sites?
[08:05] <moein> cynicallemon, No!
[08:05] <edition> its hard to find a good Windows 7 theme...
[08:05] <cfhowlett> edition, very obviously ... not supported here.
[08:06] <cynicallemon> edition: just use windows7 if its such an issue
[08:06] <moein> cfhowlett, thanks, can you help me how to find local channel!
[08:06] <cfhowlett> edition, but, you easily deploy windows wallpapers.  download the theme packs from MS.  extract wallpapers.
[08:06] <cfhowlett> moein, what country?
[08:07] <moein> cfhowlett, Iran
[08:07] <cfhowlett> moein, spoken language is pashto?  (excuse my ignorance)?
[08:08] <RaduIoan> hei
[08:08] <moein> cfhowlett,  No, Persian(or Farsi)
[08:08] <RaduIoan> can u see me ?
[08:08] <somsip> !farsi
[08:08] <cfhowlett> !test | RaduIoan,
[08:09] <RaduIoan> but still I need help is anyone willing to help me
[08:09] <RaduIoan> Google Traducere pentru companii:Translator ToolkitInstrumentul de traducere a site-urilor webGlobal Market Finder
[08:09] <White_Cat> My rdsnapshot task doesnt seem to be running. Hourly doesnt auto run and daily/weekly/monthly doesnt even run manually. May I have some help troubleshooting this?
[08:09] <frib> im using a BCM20702A0 bluetooth adapter in ubuntu 14 but it won't pair with devices.  please help.  thanks
[08:10] <cfhowlett> !details | RaduIoan,
[08:11] <cfhowlett> moein, www.sabily.org        see the support channels/forums/irc
[08:11] <moein> cfhowlett, sorry. apparently , our local channel is not active enough!
[08:11] <TBotNik> somsip: Still there?
[08:11] <somsip> TBotNik: yes
[08:11] <cynicallemon> frib: take a look at this (and good luck) http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2231813
[08:12] <cfhowlett> moein, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IranianTeam
[08:12] <RaduIoan> I installed Linux Mint ciannamon 17 and after a few days in the short circuit occurred in the neighborhood and movies sound or any audio material not hardly go through a given system than maximum, but not this morning so not goes
[08:12] <somsip> !mint | RaduIoan
[08:12] <TBotNik> somsip: Did you look at the latest in the PB?  Noticed you were helping others so maybe went by too quick?
[08:13] <cfhowlett> !flavor | RaduIoan, mint is not ubuntu.  for ubuntu support, install an ubuntu flavor.
[08:14] <Quazar> Looking up irc.spotchat.org
[08:14] <Quazar> * Connecting to irc.spotchat.org (67.230.170.10) port 6667...
[08:14] <Quazar> * Connected. Now logging in...
[08:14] <Quazar> * *** Looking up your hostname...
[08:14] <Quazar> * *** Could not resolve your hostname: Domain name not found; using your IP address (67.230.170.10) instead.
[08:14] <Quazar> * RROR :Closing link: (mint17@67.230.170.10) [Registration timeout]
[08:14] <unopaste> Quazar you have been muted for 60 seconds as it looks like you are pasting lots of lines into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com and paste just the URL of your data here when you are unmuted
[08:14] <TBotNik> somsip: Really getting tired. Up on this WP project @ 7, now 20 hrs, after 3 here, so may have to give up to get rest!
[08:15] <Guest46217> so what is it ?
[08:16] <cyclist_2> Hi, there! Is there any applet to restart the system? I can only find one to swap users and another to shutdown the system...
[08:16] <cuqa_> hey, I cant login to ubuntu as my normal user. It's stuck at the background but no menu bar nor can I open anything. I can login as guest though, what can I do?
[08:16] <cuqa_> anyone an idea?
[08:16] <somsip> TBotNik: Check make sure your default vhost is enabled, check you apt-get history log for changes you don't know about, your bash history for things that may have been done that you don't know about, and make sure you know what changes you made to PEAR
[08:16]  * nick| sets mode +q #ubuntu Guest46217!*@*
[08:17] <cfhowlett> cyclist_2, applet?  command line terminal:  sudo reboot
[08:17] <nick|> lol
[08:17] <somsip> TBotNik: and make sure /var/www does exist and is +r for www-data
[08:17] <winem> cuqa_: don't use this as a common workaround or on production systems. but you can run following commands "echo 1 > /proc/sys/kernel/sysrq; echo 1 > /proc/sysrq-trigger"
[08:17] <nick|> poor shmuck, i was j/k
[08:18] <winem> this will force your system to reboot immediatley. but it's NOT recommended to do this unless it's absolutely required and you have no other chance to reboot it
[08:21] <Beldar> cuqa_, Have you tried a safe x in recovery or nomodeset boot? Any info leading to this like graphic drivers or replacing the desktop manager?
[08:25] <cyclist_2> cfhowlett: hi, cfhowlett; unfortunately, the reason I ask this question is twofold: 1-because the icon to do so [on the icon tray] has disappeared after a hard shutdown; 2-because recently my keyboard has been locked on ALT mode [not now, of course!] and that makes it impossible for me to issue commands via CLI [even after CTRL+ALT+Fx] -- the letters appear as if I am pressing ALT or ALT GR; I understand that to be a software bug, but I nev
[08:26] <cyclist_2> cfhowlett: do let me know if part of my previous message was missing, due to length limitations here
[08:26] <cfhowlett> cyclist_2, I have no answer as I'm on Ubuntustudio/Xubuntu.  Someone using plain vanilla ubuntu would know.  ask the channel again
[08:27] <cyclist_2> cfhowlett: thank you
[08:27] <cyclist_2> Hi, there! Is there any applet to restart the system? I can only find one to swap users and another to shutdown the system...
[08:28] <eeee_> why dont you fix the power button?
[08:30] <eeee_> ( @ cyclist_2 )
[08:31] <cyclist_2> eeee_: ???
[08:31] <eeee_> cyclist_2: if i understood correctly you want an app to restart the system cause the power button isn't working anymore?
[08:33] <cyclist_2> eeee_: the power button has been missing for the first time ever since I performed a hard shutdown [had to press the reset button to shutdown the irresponsive system]
[08:34] <Repox> Hi guys. I recommandation for an application that can monitor and log the processes that are consuming most memory/cpu usage?
[08:34] <cyclist_2> eeee_: I installed another applet to "shutdown" the system, but that is the last thing I want to do; I would rather restart it
[08:34] <cynicallemon> cyclist_2: you can restart your system from a terminal  - sudo reboot
[08:35] <cyclist_2> eeee_: unfortunately, the reason I ask this question is twofold: 1-because the icon to do so [on the icon tray] has disappeared after a hard shutdown; 2-because recently my keyboard has been locked on ALT mode [not now, of course!] and that makes it impossible for me to issue commands via CLI [even after CTRL+ALT+Fx] -- the letters appear as if I am pressing ALT or ALT GR; I understand that to be a software bug, but I never experienced that
[08:35] <eeee_> if you want an app you can make your own .desktop file that reboots the system
[08:36] <cynicallemon> cyclist_2: sounds like a reinstall
[08:37] <cyclist_2> cynicallemon: sorry, but that is out of the question!
[08:38] <eeee_> cyclist_2: are you sure it's a software issue?
[08:38] <eeee_> cyclist_2: can you try to run xev in the terminal, maybe the key is stuck ?
[08:38] <cyclist_2> cynicallemon: I have the feeling that the said icon could reappear after a restart, but I seldom do restart my system without greater reason [going on for 3 ~ 6 months logged-on]
[08:40] <cynicallemon> cyclist_2: then if it might come back after a restart then perhaps you should try
[08:41] <cyclist_2> eeee_: I can try it, but right now the keyboard is wotking correctly...; again, when it happens, the entries from the keyboard become useless...;  but the mouse still works -- unfortunately, the said icon ["power button"] has vanished since last time it ocurred...
[08:41] <damilaptop> ey guys, wondering if you could help me with something. i'm looking to (well, already built) an ubuntu server in a VM on my travelling laptop .. using hyperv
[08:41] <ikonia> damilaptop: so what's the question ?
[08:41] <cynicallemon> damilaptop: and?
[08:42] <damilaptop> however! the ip addressing on the linux virtual machine isn't updating when i change sites
[08:42] <ikonia> why would it ?
[08:42] <damilaptop> i've tried doing a dhclient -r / dhclient
[08:42] <ikonia> it gets dhcp from the virtual network
[08:42] <ikonia> not a real network unless you've patched it through as a pass through network device on hyperv
[08:43] <damilaptop> i have :)
[08:43] <damilaptop> so i've pushed two virtual network devices to the linux vm, one being the wireless.. one being the ethernet
[08:43] <ikonia> damilaptop: then it' a problem with either a.) hyperv not being a pass through device b.) the dhcp server on the site you are on not offering up a response to the request
[08:43] <cyclist_2> cynicallemon: I know what you mean, but I would rather fix it ***without*** a restart; I have already installed a "shutdown" applet to the icon tray, but I will only use it as the last resort [better that pressing the reset button...]
[08:43] <damilaptop> that way the linux machine should get a connection depending on which i'm using
[08:43] <damilaptop> the ethernet works fine..
[08:43] <damilaptop> i restart linux and it gets dhcp without any dramas
[08:44] <damilaptop> but it won't do it without a restart
[08:44] <ikonia> damilaptop: that suggests the card is not being used as a pass through
[08:44] <cynicallemon> cyclist_2: if you restart every 3-6 months, how are you handling kernel updates that need a reboot usually - assuming you update of course?
[08:45] <edition> is there a good introductory GTK+ manual?
[08:45] <cynicallemon> ikonia: sounds like it agreed
[08:45] <moein> cfhowlett, can you tell me how to find a free server to host me as VPN?
[08:45] <damilaptop> with hyperv, you don't passthru devices, you configure virtual switches with your existing devices - then both the host and the virtual machines use it; so if my host can get internet on it, the virtual machine should be able to as well
[08:46] <damilaptop> on a Windows VM this works fine
[08:46] <cynicallemon> edition: gnome website
[08:46] <cfhowlett> moein, contact your local ubuntu or linux team
[08:46] <edition> thanks
[08:46] <ikonia> damilaptop: there you go then, there is your problem
[08:46] <moein> cfhowlett, ok. thanks,
[08:46] <damilaptop> yes.. linux is the problem; thus why i've come in here
[08:46] <ikonia> damilaptop: why is linux the problem ?
[08:47] <damilaptop> exactly the same scenario with a windows virtual machine works; with a linux virtual machine it doesn't
[08:47] <JNixx> Hyper-v doesn't have NAT by default
[08:47] <JNixx> You have toi give the linux VM a static IP from the network you'r on
[08:47] <cynicallemon> edition: http://www.gtk.org/documentation.php
[08:47] <damilaptop> no you don't jnhghy
[08:47] <damilaptop> JNixx..
[08:47] <ikonia> damilaptop: again, that doesn't mean linux is the problem
[08:47] <cfhowlett> moein, https://www.vpnbook.com      works in China ...
[08:48] <jnhghy> damilaptop: ok, I won't ... wait .. what?
[08:48] <cyclist_2> cynicallemon: frankly, I do not care much for those updates; I am ***not*** up-to-date...; my system is Ubuntu 10.04, but never before I experienced this issue; and I am not about to upgrade it because the power button does not show; if I have to, I will wait until I have to restart/shutdown, to see if the said button reapears...
[08:48] <vaskozl> Is it possible to install the ubuntu touch DE on regular ubuntu?
[08:48] <damilaptop> with Hyper-V you have three networking types; a public (which gives your virtual machine a network presence), a private (which gives access to the host only) and a local (which gives vm's access to each other only)
[08:48] <damilaptop> lol sorry jnhghy
[08:49] <damilaptop> if you had to set a static ip address on a VM in Hyper-V it would render the virtual environment all but useless for a lot of things
[08:49] <vaskozl> no ubuntu touch DE package?
[08:50] <JNixx> damilaptop. If you use External you should get an IP from DHCP.
[08:50] <Beldar> vaskozl, No the touch is it's own OS
[08:51] <damilaptop> yeah, that's correct JNixx
[08:51] <vaskozl> is there any good touch screen wm/de then?
[08:51] <Beldar> vaskozl, #ubuntu-touch is the channel.
[08:51] <vaskozl> that can actually be installed?
[08:51] <damilaptop> and it does .. when there's a reboot on the linux vm
[08:51] <cynicallemon> Hyper-V another spiffing product from M
[08:51] <cynicallemon> *MS
[08:52] <Mobutils> Mobutils:  http://p.ngx.cc/ce - If anyone has any experience with mongoose.js / mongodb that might be able to assist… Soo weird, I get the document from a query… but when i try to change then save the doc numberAffected returns 0… as if the doc can’t be found…. but it was with the inital query…
[08:52] <JNixx> damilaptop: Maybe i just skimmed over the last few posts. Thought you didn't get an IP. Maybe i misunderstood
[08:52] <Mobutils> ^sorry for off topic.
[08:52] <damilaptop> ahh
[08:52] <Beldar> vaskozl, The channel has headers, one is a known installable on hardware list
[08:53] <damilaptop> lol nah, the issue is when i change networks my host laptop gets an ip .. but the virtual machine doesn't get a new one unless i restart the vm
[08:53] <JNixx> damilaptop: I would say that is more to do with DHCP polling time than a Hyper-V problem
[08:54] <damilaptop> i *dont* think it's a hyperv issue at all, ikonia suggested that :P
[08:54] <moein> cfhowlett, can not be loaded! :(
[08:55] <cfhowlett> moein, no surprise.  contact your local people.  sorry.
[08:56] <JNixx> damilaptop: what about doing a "sudo service networking restart" instead of restarting the entire VM, does thsat work?
[09:01] <cynicallemon> damilaptop: how about installing some decent virtualisation software like VirtualBox
[09:01] <daGrevis> hey! when i shutdown my xubuntu, it hangs up. where could I find more info?
[09:20] <cristianmatiaz> hello there
[09:20] <cristianmatiaz> i have some problem with interet
[09:21] <cristianmatiaz> i don't know why all the browsers doesn't work
[09:21] <cristianmatiaz> but for example this chat does
[09:21] <cristianmatiaz> any idea?
[09:22] <daGrevis> cristianmatiaz, sounds like a dns problems
[09:22] <Pricey> cristianmatiaz: What's the error?
[09:22] <daGrevis> what happens when you open your terminal and type in
[09:22] <daGrevis> ping 8.8.8.8
[09:23] <cristianmatiaz> daGrevis,  i thought that and i put 8.8.8.8, 8.8.4.4 into dns
[09:23] <cristianmatiaz> ok
[09:23] <daGrevis> ohh if it doesn't help it's not that :(
[09:23] <cristianmatiaz> daGrevis, i dont recive any error when i ping 8.8.8.8
[09:24] <daGrevis> cristianmatiaz, what happens when you ping google.com
[09:24] <cristianmatiaz> daGrevis, 5 packets transmitted, 5 received, 0% packet loss, time 4006ms
[09:24] <daGrevis> follow-up question: what do you have in /etc/resolv.conf ?
[09:25] <daGrevis> oh wait then it's all good. works through terminal
[09:25] <daGrevis> what error do you see in your browser and what browser is that?
[09:25] <Guest45271> 哈
[09:25] <cristianmatiaz> nothing in the browser, just doesn't work
[09:26] <Guest45271> 白痴问题 ，自己搞定
[09:26] <cristianmatiaz> daGrevis, is in loop loading but doesnt show anythig
[09:26] <daGrevis> cristianmatiaz, what browser?
[09:26] <daGrevis> try to start it in safe mode
[09:26] <Guest45271> 2个白痴
[09:27] <somsip> !zh | Guest45271
[09:27] <cristianmatiaz> daGrevis, i tried with firefox and chrome
[09:28] <cristianmatiaz> how can i start in safemode the browser?
[09:28] <daGrevis> from terminal:
[09:28] <daGrevis> firefox -safe-mode
[09:28] <daGrevis> oh wait it doesn't for like that
[09:29] <daGrevis> oh maybe it does. does it work for you like that?
[09:29] <cristianmatiaz> yes daGrevis
[09:30] <daGrevis> are sites loading too?
[09:30] <cristianmatiaz> daGrevis, but.. is always blank with the same error
[09:30] <daGrevis> what error is that?
[09:30] <cristianmatiaz> daGrevis, the error for me is that is not loading the pages XD
[09:31] <cristianmatiaz> daGrevis, maybe i have some problem with the protocol http?
[09:31] <daGrevis> right. well then i won't be able to help you with this. out of my scope :(
[09:32] <cristianmatiaz> daGrevis, ok thnx to try anyway :)
[09:32] <daGrevis> curl http://google.com/ | tail
[09:32] <daGrevis> what does it say?
[09:33] <xtrox> Hello
[09:33] <cristianmatiaz> daGrevis, w8  i'm installing curl
[09:34] <xtrox> During install ubuntu ask you if you want to crypt personal folder == choose not to
[09:34] <xtrox> How to do it after
[09:34] <GNU[BDC]> press next
[09:35] <Ool> ecryptfs for the home
[09:35] <cristianmatiaz> daGrevis, shows me the html of google.it
[09:35] <daGrevis> xtrox, maybe this can help you https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EncryptedHome
[09:35] <daGrevis> cristianmatiaz, that proves that http works, imo
[09:35] <reversiblean> What is the easiest way to update Oracle Java without having to download the whole archive again?
[09:35] <cristianmatiaz> daGrevis, so i don't knows what's the problem :S
[09:36] <cristianmatiaz> i'm gonna try to reinstall the browsers i don't know
[09:36] <theadmin> reversiblean: None, really. Use a PPA the next time
[09:36] <theadmin> reversiblean: That way you can just use apt-get as you normally would.
[09:36] <theadmin> reversiblean: Please see https://launchpad.net/~webupd8team/+archive/ubuntu/java
[09:37] <Rory> In bash, when you run a command like ^foo^bar and it replaces the first instance of foo with bar... is there a way to replace *all* instances of foo with bar in the previous command?
[09:37] <Rory> I'd prefer also if it works in zsh the same way
[09:37] <reversiblean> yup, I've seen that. is web8 team trusted?
[09:38] <Rory> reversiblean: generally. they certainly have the benefit of a long history
[09:38] <theadmin> reversiblean: You can trust them, yes, they are very popular and provide a *lot* of software for Ubuntu that's not available in official repos
[09:38] <reversiblean> OK, thanks for the info.
[09:39] <reversiblean> What about the java swing apps and font rendering issue? Why isn't there any proper fix?
[09:40] <theadmin> reversiblean: Not sure what you mean, I haven't had any issues with Swing
[09:40] <theadmin> reversiblean: But I was using OpenJDK
[09:40] <k1l_> reversiblean: wbupd8 PPAs got a lot of stuff in their PPA. be aware that you will get some other updated packages form there too
[09:40] <theadmin> k1l_: Not this one, this one just has Java
[09:40] <reversiblean> sure.
[09:45] <reversiblean> I'm referring to the bug: https://netbeans.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=216655#c87
[09:45] <reversiblean> and this http://youtrack.jetbrains.com/issue/IDEA-57233
[09:45] <steven> any convenient way to get svn  > 1.7.10 working on 1404? cos the old sources only ship 1.7.9 and 1404 ships with 1.8.8?
[09:47] <reversiblean> I've tried quite a few suggested solutions and there's some improvement, but none of them come close to the font rendering quality of other apps like eclipse.
[09:54] <edition> is it wise to install KDE in xubuntu?
[09:54] <xtrox> daGrevis thank you
[09:55] <theadmin> edition: It'll work fine
[09:55] <edition> no issues?
[09:55] <theadmin> edition: You can switch between desktops on the login screen
[09:55] <edition> because last time I installed Unity, I ended up reinstalling xubuntu...
[09:56] <theadmin> edition: You should install ubuntu-desktop, not just Unity
[09:56] <edition> i did :)
[09:56] <theadmin> edition: Same for KDE, install kubuntu-desktop
[09:56] <edition> ok
[09:57] <edition> is there a Visual Studio color theme for KDevelop?
[09:58] <reversiblean> @theadmin Oops! sorry, I posted the link to the wrong bug before. Second link is the correct one.
[10:00] <theadmin> reversiblean: Ah, I see what you mean now, I thought you had issues with text not displaying at all or something
[10:00] <theadmin> reversiblean: Yeah, that's a long-lasting problem, I don't know if we'll ever get a fix... Oracle gonna Oracel
[10:00] <edition> is it possible to use kubuntu-desktop in reverse?
[10:00] <theadmin> edition: What do you mean?
[10:01] <edition> so, remove based on kubuntu-desktop...
[10:01] <edition> is it possible?
[10:01] <theadmin> edition: Ah, that... not directly
[10:01] <edition> ok
[10:01] <theadmin> !purexfce | edition
[10:01] <theadmin> edition: ^ see that
[10:01] <edition> ok
[10:02] <OERIAS> ?join #debian
[10:02] <reversiblean> @theadmin ok, thanks
[10:02] <edition> why not have a portable desktop setup?
[10:02] <theadmin> edition: Not sure what you mean, you can install Ubuntu to a USB stick easily
[10:03] <edition> so, users can easily install/remove desktop environments, when needed...
[10:03] <theadmin> edition: Well, they can, that's what the -desktop packages are for
[10:03] <edition> sorry, noob question.
[10:04] <theadmin> edition: The problem with metapackages is that they just pull in a ton of dependencies, removing which is a pain later. The package group approach used by some other distros is a bit better in that regard.
[10:04] <edition> :/
[10:04] <theadmin> edition: But that's more of a Debian problem
[10:05] <edition> debian has better support for my laptop, since opensuse overheated my cpu...
[10:05] <edition> ill stick with ubuntu.
[10:05] <theadmin> edition: I mean, Debian created APT, so
[10:05] <edition> apt dependancies issues. right.
[10:11] <Rory> In bash, when you run a command like ^foo^bar and it replaces the first instance of foo with bar... is there a way to replace *all* instances of foo with bar in the previous command?
[10:11] <theadmin> edition: To compare with Windows, it's like when games install all those "Visual C++ runtimes" and when you uninstall the games those things stay
[10:11] <theadmin> edition: Sort of
[10:11] <edition> and the annoying registry entries... I've used windows for years...
[10:12] <edition> wait. ubuntu doesn't really have a 'registry'?
[10:12] <k1l_> edition: linux as such doesnt have a registry
[10:12] <edition> just config files?
[10:13] <theadmin> edition: Yeah
[10:13] <k1l_> edition: dont search for windows like habbits in linux. there are different ways of handling that.
[10:13] <geirha> Rory: !!:gs/foo/bar
[10:15] <Rory> nice one geirha
[10:15] <userings> edition: The concept behind Linux is "everything is a file". :)
[10:15] <theadmin> edition: Pretty much any program will create it's own directory for configuration under ~/.config (proper XDG way) or ~/.programname
[10:16] <hipitihop_> I am on 12.04 ona Dell Studio XPS laptop. Update manager does not show any lts upgrade option. Is there a manual way to move to next LTS release and is this recommended
[10:16] <cfhowlett_> hipitihop_, sudo apt do-release-upgrade -p
[10:17] <cfhowlett_> hipitihop_, although, personally, I prefer downloading the ISO.  Verify that and clean install.  Keep /home separate.
[10:18] <hipitihop_> cfhowlett_, yeh clean would be nice, but would prefer not to stuff about with reinstalling things
[10:18] <cfhowlett_> hipitihop_, understandable.
[10:19] <hipitihop_> cfhowlett_, I assume "sudo apt do-release-upgrade -p" meant to be "sudo apt-get do-release-upgrade -p"
[10:20] <cfhowlett_> hipitihop_, nope.
[10:20] <cfhowlett_> hipitihop_, I think do-release-upgrade is a  script.  apt-get is a command
[10:20] <geirha> 12.04 doesn't have apt
[10:21] <geirha> apt(1) I mean
[10:21] <cfhowlett_> geirha, eh?  mine did!
[10:21] <hipitihop_> geirha, indeed, command not found. So the correct way to upgrade is ?
[10:21] <geirha> cfhowlett_: it though it was introduced in 14.04
[10:21] <theadmin> hipitihop_: sudo do-release-upgrade
[10:22] <hipitihop_> theadmin, no -p option ?
[10:23] <Tzunamii> afaik, if you're going to upgrade from 12.04 to 14.04 you should use the -p parameter IF you have it set to only upgrade to LTS versions
[10:23] <theadmin> hipitihop_: Well, with -p yes
[10:25] <Tzunamii> Make sure to check /etc/update-manager/release-upgrades
[10:25] <hipitihop_> theadmin, now asking re unity3d and graphics hardware and suggests I keep existing so prefer not to bork the machine
[10:25] <theadmin> hipitihop_: What graphics card do you have?
[10:26] <hipitihop_> theadmin, not sure, it's a dell studio xps 16, checking...
[10:28] <theadmin> hipitihop_: lspci | grep VGA
[10:29] <hipitihop_> theadmin, Mobility Radeon HD 3670
[10:29] <theadmin> bah ati cards
[10:29] <chillibite> what do you think about using an OS that isn't entirely free (non gpl)?
[10:29] <hipitihop_> theadmin, Mobility Radeon HD 3670 - AMD/ATI RV635/M86
[10:29] <theadmin> hipitihop_: Perhaps you might have issues
[10:30] <enchilado> chillibite: I use Windows.
[10:30] <theadmin> chillibite: No problems for me with that. I am not Richard Stallman.
[10:30] <theadmin> chillibite: Also, please take that to #ubuntu-offtopic
[10:30] <chillibite> theadmin: i am talking about ubuntu
[10:30] <hipitihop_> theadmin, sound slike I should er on the side of caution. BTW it is not important I do LTS on this machine anymore but that may not make a lot of difference
[10:31] <chillibite> theadmin: and hoping one day that ubuntu would be entirely compliant with gpl
[10:31] <enchilado> theadmin: what, you're not? Whaat
[10:31] <theadmin> chillibite: Hopefully not going to happen. I really like where Ubuntu's headed. Commercialisation is important to get developers to Ubuntu
[10:32] <theadmin> chillibite: If you want a fully GPL compliant distro, check FSF, they have a list
[10:32] <chillibite> theadmin: yeah i know, i was hoping ubuntu will he on that list one day while still being commercially viable (profitable)
[10:33] <chillibite> for example we helped the parliament of Zimbabwe migrate to Ubuntu
[10:33] <enchilado> Why do you care that much about things being GPL?
[10:33] <chillibite> freedom
[10:33] <theadmin> chillibite: And? Are you actually going to look at the code and modify it?
[10:33] <cfhowlett_> can we please continue this discussion in #ubuntu-offtopic
[10:34] <theadmin> cfhowlett_: Sorry, got offtrack
[10:34] <chillibite> theadmin: some of it
[10:34] <Morkeleb> I've got some challenges with file sharing in 14.04: I've shared a folder, from Properties -> File sharing etc. (I guess that's Samba?). I've set the permissions to "Others can create and delete files and folders". Still, when I mount this share with -cifs from another Linux machine (older Mint installation), the permissions doesn't work. If I create a folder on the share, it becomes unwritable.
[10:34] <chillibite> theadmin: not all of it, but the entire distro should be have the source available
[10:34] <theadmin> chillibite: Then don't use Ubuntu.
[10:35] <theadmin> chillibite: And again, #ubuntu-offtopic please.
[10:35] <chillibite> theadmin: so we aren't talking about ubuntu?
[10:35] <theadmin> chillibite: This channel is techsupport only
[10:35] <cfhowlett_> chillibite, this is the tech support channel ...
[10:36] <chillibite> theadmin: one example, how can users be sure that the ubuntu phone won't have spyware recording our conversations and sending them to the cia?
[10:36] <chillibite> i hope you see that as a tech support question
[10:36] <hipitihop_> Anyone have a link to google chrome beta 37 I want to try new native netflix support and it keeps trying to install stable i386
[10:36] <cfhowlett_> chillibite, it belongs in off-topic.  4 request
[10:37]  * hipitihop_ wonders if asking for google chrome install links for ubuntu is off-topic here
[10:37] <theadmin> chillibite: This is not a techsupport issue, Ubuntu phones aren't even out yet... Also, the Ubuntu DVD has a "GPL mode" which you can select during boot, which will cause the installer to only install GPL'd programs.
[10:37] <theadmin> hipitihop_: chrome.google.com
[10:38] <chillibite> theadmin: thanks i didn't know that and that's great (gpl only installer)
[10:39] <theadmin> chillibite: Well, rather, free software only (FSF approved licenses, such as GPL, BSD, etc)
[10:39] <k1l_> chillibite: ubuntu-touch, which is the phone base of ubuntu is opensource. so go and have a look at the code if you mind. but dont just tell people it will be spyware if you do have any proof
[10:40] <editorx> hi all :)
[10:41] <chillibite> k1l_: i'm just talking about the possibility, even in the firmware of having malicious code, that's all
[10:41] <hipitihop_> theadmin, been there, despite choosing beta.html & 64 bit, it downloads i386 stable. maybe their links are screwed or I'm suffering a brain fart
[10:41] <k1l_> chillibite: so only dreaming of the possibility is clearly #ubuntu-offtopic relevant.
[10:42] <theadmin> hipitihop_: Oh, I haven't attempted to get beta releases
[10:42] <cfhowlett_> chillibite, this is "concern trolling" i.e. pretended heartfelt concern at theoretical possibilities.  If you must indulge, do so in #ubuntu-offtopic so people with ACTUAL tech support issues can get assistance
[10:42] <Morkeleb> No one knows Samba? I also created a share in smb.conf, which is public and writable. Still, on the machine mounting it, I get "permission denied" when trying to copy a folder with files.
[10:43] <cfhowlett_> !samba | Morkeleb
[10:43] <theadmin> Morkeleb: I have no idea what I'm really talking about, but did you log in as the user who owns the folder shared? Is anonymous access (if that's a thing) allowed?
[10:43] <samuraiRM> hi
[10:44] <chillibite> cfhowlett_: these are real concerns, and i agree probably off topic here so... whatever
[10:44] <k1l_> Morkeleb: synced samba users with real system users?
[10:44] <Morkeleb> theadmin: Yes and yes. Both logged in as the same user AND public access allowed.
[10:44] <chillibite> and i am not pretending to be concerned
[10:44] <samuraiRM> screensaver for xubuntu?
[10:44] <Morkeleb> Hm. Forgot the syncing...
[10:44] <hipitihop_> theadmin, yup I'm specifically interested in 37 as that apparently now supports netflix natively in html5 no silvelight needed
[10:45] <theadmin> hipitihop_: Wait seriously? That sounds good
[10:45] <cfhowlett_> samuraiRM, xscreensave is available but may cause conflict with the lightlocker greeter.  Xubuntu recommends one or the other but not both
[10:45] <theadmin> hipitihop_: ...even though I have no access to Netflix, I think that is a good thing
[10:45] <hipitihop_> theadmin, totally agree
[10:45] <Morkeleb> But still: In smb.conf, it says "public = yes" and "writable = yes", so why the heck isn't it so?
[10:45] <hipitihop_> theadmin, this g+ link work ? https://plus.google.com/104912707432334684242/posts/1gnbmo63xVa
[10:46] <samuraiRM> So what?
[10:46] <theadmin> hipitihop_: lol, having to have to switch useragent to windows... that's dumb
[10:47] <editorx> Morkeleb, what permission has the directory shared?
[10:48] <hipitihop_> theadmin, sure the whol euser agent stuff is braindead. nonethless if this works it is way better then my current solution pipelight (no disrispect to the devs, excellent product but prefer not to need)
[10:48] <Morkeleb> editorx: All permissions for everyone
[10:48] <samuraiRM> http://postimg.org/image/5e9f2uhnv/
[10:48] <Morkeleb> But when the computer mounting the share tries to copy a directory with files to the share, the directory immediately becomes non-writable
[10:49] <chillibite> tech support questions: will i be able to access  https://trisquel.info using firefox under ubuntu :-) ( this is not spam! )
[10:50] <samuraiRM> blank after 4 minutes it a solution?
[10:50] <vitimiti> Of course you are, chillibite
[10:50] <vitimiti> At least I can
[10:50] <samuraiRM> unic solution'
[10:50] <samuraiRM> thank
[10:52] <editorx> Morkeleb, after the edit of smb.conf have you reloaded the conf?
[10:52] <chillibite> theadmin: can you please help me, i am in need of tech support. i would like to use a free gnu/linux distrobution. how will i be able to download the latest .iso of trisquel and burn it as a bootable dvd using ubuntu?
[10:53] <hipitihop_> so does anyone have any clue how to install Chrome beta 37 or later on 12.04 ? chrome site has its links screwed up it seems and downloads stable i386 instead of 64 beta
[10:53] <Morkeleb> editorx: Of course. I'm beginning to suspect AppArmor...?
[10:53] <edition> !offtopic
[10:53] <cfhowlett_> chillibite, full details of install are on the trisquel site.  as you no doubt know
[10:53] <theadmin> chillibite: Download it with a browser, burn using Brasero or K3B or whichever burning tool you prefer.
[10:54] <chillibite> theadmin: thanks so much! :-)
[10:54] <hipitihop_> chillibite, http://unetbootin.sourceforge.net/ lets you setup bootable usb
[10:54] <chillibite> nice one, thanks
[10:54] <k1l_> chillibite: stop that trolling now!
[10:59] <editorx> Morkeleb, I think it's something easier :)
[10:59] <Quazar> hi
[11:00] <Guest73875> ani ideea where linux mint has a volume control ?
[11:00] <ghost_21> hi i just downloaded ubuntu any recomdations that i should do
[11:00] <Guest73875> ghost_21,  wait 1 minute
[11:00] <k1l_> !mint | Guest73875
[11:00] <cfhowlett_> ghost_21, verify it.  install it.  have fun with it.
[11:01] <Guest73875> that server is not suported
[11:01] <Guest73875> from mine porv
[11:01] <ghost_21> its installed already i just dont know the good parts of ubuntu but the looks
[11:01] <k1l_> Guest73875: so ask in ##linux or find a mint channel on freenode
[11:01] <ghost_21> whats the hype of it
[11:01] <k1l_> ghost_21: just use it and install the programs you need from the ubuntu repo
[11:01] <frib> whoever gave me these instructions: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2231813 for fixing bluetooth in ubuntu 14 thank you so much!!!
[11:02] <frib> it was such a longshot but i actually got it to work flawlessly!!!
[11:02] <ghost_21> whats the bluetooth for
[11:02] <frib> bluetooth devices
[11:04] <ghost_21> can i use my phone?
[11:04] <cfhowlett_> ghost_21, what has your phone to do with ubuntu?
[11:05] <ghost_21> can i connect my phone with the bluetooth on ubuntu
[11:05] <cfhowlett_> ghost_21, maybe ...
[11:05] <k1l_> ghost_21: depends on your phone make and phone OS
[11:05] <cfhowlett_> ghost_21, better yet, why are you asking us.  try it
[11:06] <cfhowlett_> ghost_21, for android phones, airdroid on the phone is a very common solution
[11:06] <chillibite> ghost_21: i often share my phones internet connection via bluetooth with ubuntu or transfer photos (often of trisquel gnu/linux install fests)
[11:07] <ghost_21> cool
[11:07] <ghost_21> what are the thing i can do with ubuntu that i cant on windows 7 except for the obvious
[11:08] <chillibite> ghost_21: and my phone is an android (unfortunately, due to the non free software and google spyware)
[11:08] <theadmin> ghost_21: Nothing
[11:08] <theadmin> ghost_21: Err
[11:08] <theadmin> Sorry, read it wrong
[11:08] <cfhowlett_> ghost_21, try it, note the differences and come back when you discover such things for yourself.
[11:08] <theadmin> ghost_21: Ubuntu is more customisable, safer, free
[11:09] <chillibite> ghost_21: plenty of things, here's just one: transfer files via ssh using a gui or shell (out of the box) say for web dev or something
[11:10] <ghost_21> whats web dev
[11:10] <ghost_21> develop?
[11:10] <cfhowlett_> !manual > ghost_21
[11:10] <chillibite> website development - yeah
[11:10] <edition> !manual > edition
[11:11] <ghost_21> ok ubottu
[11:11] <theadmin> ghost_21: Here's a thing, if you are fine with what Windows does for you, run Ubuntu in a virutal machine (see http://virtualbox.org for example) first to see if you enjoy using it
[11:11] <theadmin> ghost_21: Then do a full install
[11:11] <ghost_21> i already did a full install
[11:11] <theadmin> Ah
[11:11] <ghost_21> im just no to linux software
[11:12] <chillibite> ghost_21: the only thing windows imho has an advantage over gnu/linux is gaming
[11:13] <ghost_21> nah i dont game on my laptop
[11:14] <theadmin> Meh... Gaming on Linux is acceptable these days thanks to Valve
[11:14] <ghost_21> im mostly going to use it for coding now
[11:14] <chillibite> what language
[11:15] <ghost_21> i started with html and css but i want a third one just for when im not building a website
[11:16] <chillibite> ghost_21: well if you want to learn more about gnu/linux start with bash, file permissions etc. then C (use vi or vim as your text editor)
[11:17] <ghost_21> is bash a language
[11:17] <theadmin> ...vi is a terrible recommendation for someone new to Linux
[11:17] <theadmin> ghost_21: Bash is a language, it's what Linux uses for it's "command prompt" so to say
[11:17] <edition> @theadmin agreed
[11:18] <ghost_21> i was looking for more of a programming code
[11:18] <theadmin> ghost_21: Python is easy to get started with
[11:19] <jobeaier> Hello, people.
[11:19] <ghost_21> can you tell me how to get to python that came with unbuntu
[11:19] <ghost_21> or do i have to install it
[11:19] <chillibite> ghost_21: python is pre installed
[11:19] <theadmin> ghost_21: Open a terminal, type "python" in
[11:19] <ghost_21> ok
[11:19] <theadmin> ghost_21: That will give you an interactive shell, you can also type your script in a text file and run it with "python myfile.py"
[11:19] <samuraiRM> fuck off
[11:20] <jobeaier> I installed Xbuntu 14.0.4.1 but I found audio is skipping, btw I am using ICH5 [Intel ICH5], device 4: Intel ICH - IEC958 .
[11:20] <ghost_21> is there a way to code not in the terminal
[11:20] <jobeaier> How to fix the alsa driver?
[11:20] <theadmin> ghost_21: Use a text editor, Geany is a good one
[11:21] <theadmin> ghost_21: Python has an IDE called IDLE, you can install it from the Software Centre
[11:21] <theadmin> But I'm not a fan of it
[11:21] <jobeaier> Any ubuntu developers here?
[11:22] <jobeaier> I am looking for support. And I want to report this bug.
[11:22] <ghost_21> i like how easy it is to install software from the software center
[11:22] <chillibite> ghost_21: i prefer apt-get
[11:23] <theadmin> chillibite: Oi, this person is new to Linux, don't scare them away with the command line :P
[11:23] <ghost_21> apt-get python install?
[11:23] <chillibite> sudo apt-get install python
[11:23] <chillibite> but it's already there so...
[11:23] <ghost_21> ahh its difrent from kali
[11:24] <ghost_21> so how do i open it or is it build in the terminal?
[11:24] <theadmin> ghost_21: Open what?
[11:24] <chillibite> are you a troll man
[11:24] <ghost_21> python
[11:24] <theadmin> ghost_21: As I said, type "python" in a terminal
[11:25] <theadmin> ghost_21: On Linux, you can usually open any program just by typing its' name in a terminal. For instance, try "firefox"
[11:25] <cfhowlett_> !bug | jobeaier,
[11:25] <ghost_21> Python 2.7.6 (default, Mar 22 2014, 22:59:56)
[11:25] <ghost_21> [GCC 4.8.2] on linux2
[11:25] <ghost_21> Type "help", "copyright", "credits" or "license" for more information.
[11:25] <ghost_21> thats what came up
[11:25] <ghost_21> no program came up
[11:25] <ikonia> ghost_21: what is it you want to actually do ?
[11:25] <theadmin> ghost_21: Right, now type your Python code. Or type it in a file and run it with "python something.py"
[11:25] <ghost_21> ohhhhh
[11:25] <ikonia> ghost_21: it's a "shell" or "interperator" in that respect
[11:26] <cfhowlett_> ghost_21, for python support ##python
[11:26] <ghost_21> that how i run the script
[11:26] <ikonia> ghost_21: python script.py
[11:26] <ghost_21> right?
[11:26] <ikonia> whatever your script is calle
[11:26] <chillibite> you need to go to duckduckgo.com and type "python tutorial"
[11:26] <ikonia> called
[11:26] <ikonia> chillibite: nah - you don't
[11:28] <chillibite_> if he wants to learn python then it think it'd be easier to download a pdf book rather than ask question after question while demonstrating that he barely understands the answers or maybe go to #python
[11:28] <chillibite_> anyway my wife and kid are calling me for lunch so see you later
[11:29] <ghost_21> it says im unregestered
[11:29] <ikonia> chillibite: he's not asking questions about learning python, he's asking how to run a script he's been told and he's been told to use #python
[11:29] <ghost_21> were can i register
[11:29] <ikonia> ghost_21: the guys in #freenode can help you
[11:29] <ghost_21> ok
[11:29] <ghost_21> sorry i was slow on catching on my bad
[11:29] <ghost_21> but i understand now
[11:34] <niop> hi, getting error msg on installing pkg-config-0.28 saying that hard link already exists.. just delete hard link?  make[3]: Entering directory `/root/pkg-config-0.28'
[11:34] <niop> cd /usr/local/bin && ln pkg-config x86_64-unknown-linux-gnu-pkg-config
[11:34] <niop> ln: failed to create hard link ‘x86_64-unknown-linux-gnu-pkg-config’: File exists
[11:36] <carpediembaby> Hello i am having trouble installing additional languages in ubuntu 14,04 that i just installed in a virtual machine. I tried adding new language in language support but the nez lqnguage shows up as greyed out. Also, i am unable to get the language switcher in the panel at the top.. any suggestions on how to debug the issue?
[11:37] <editorx> niop, is it not ln target link_name ? :? it seems another order for the argument
[11:37] <editorx> ln -s x86_64-unknown-linux-gnu-pkg-config pkg-config ?
[11:38] <vitimiti> carpediembaby, to make it not be grayed out you have to drag it over the "English" language, which is like the fallback and last one, not the "English (US)" or anything like that, just "English"
[11:38] <geirha> niop: what are you building and why?
[11:38] <niop> editorx: not sure what you mean there, not a linux guru quite.  but this might be offending makefile command install-exec-hook:
[11:38] <niop>         cd $(DESTDIR)$(bindir) && $(LN) pkg-config$(EXEEXT) $(host_tool)
[11:39] <carpediembaby> vitimiti: it is undraggable.. it doesnt matter how i drag it, it goes back to where it was
[11:39] <niop> trying to install a node package image resize, which depends on some graphics libs. eg apt-get install libglib2.0-dev.  cairo is another. but cairo depends on pkg-config.  and the latter is bringing up that error. perhaps due to aborted previous install.
[11:41] <carpediembaby> vitimiti: okm i got it above it somehow, but how can i change the layout of the keyboard now?
[11:41] <niop> geirha: error msg in installing node package i think was: gyp: Call to './util/has_cairo_freetype.sh' returned exit status 0.
[11:41] <niop> why the attempt to install cairo
[11:41] <niop> doing using make as appears there's no apt automatic install of those things.
[11:42] <vitimiti> carpediembaby, you go to Configuration -> Keyboard and there, in the most bottom part, you have a link to the layout
[11:42] <vitimiti> You click it and config it
[11:43] <geirha> niop: why didn't you install it via apt?
[11:43] <niop> i wouldn't have, but not that familiar with ubuntu, and didn't find an apt cmd for it in google search.. so assumed it would require a direct download.'
[11:43] <niop> curl
[11:44] <niop> *would have
[11:44] <carpediembaby> vitimiti: in Text Entry the checkbox to "show current input source in the menu bar"? It is already checked but there is no effect
[11:44] <ikonia> niop: if your that "skilled" you can build it from source you should be able to work out the package manager
[11:44] <theadmin> niop: Just search the Software Center for your software first before trying to install it. If the software is relevant, it's likely in the repositories
[11:45] <niop> actually.. it's in docker.  so there's no ui.
[11:45] <vitimiti> No, carpediembaby
[11:45] <niop> on digitalocean
[11:45] <ikonia> niop: again - there is the package manager
[11:45] <vitimiti> carpediembaby, you hit the plus button and add the layout you need
[11:45] <ikonia> niop: which if you are capable of building software you should be able to grasp the basics of very easy
[11:45] <niop> ikonia: in there as well?
[11:45] <vitimiti> With the minus button you delete layouts
[11:46] <vitimiti> carpediembaby, the checkbox you talk about makes the layout appear or not in the menu bar of ubuntu
[11:46] <niop> ikonia: windows heritage,  but learning fast.  not the package manager so much, other than in mint.
[11:46] <ikonia> niop: there is a lot of documentation on the web
[11:46] <ikonia> niop: https://help.ubuntu.com https://wiki.ubuntu.com
[11:46] <niop> ok.. package manager from cmd line.
[11:46] <niop> ta
[11:47] <carpediembaby> vitimiti: yes, thanks! got it! the display is too small so didnt see it earlier..
[11:48] <vitimiti> carpediembaby, good
[11:49] <carpediembaby> which is another problem. Is there a default zoom functionality in ubuntu so that everything is just bigger? I have a display which is 3200 x 1800 but everything is very small in ubuntu on this screen
[11:49] <ikonia> carpediembaby: change the resolution
[11:49] <ikonia> carpediembaby: set it to tsomething thats useable/readable
[11:50] <carpediembaby> ikonia: i am running a virtual machine to that just reduces the size of the vm window
[11:50] <cristianmatiaz> hello there someone can help me to resolve a problem with the protocol http?
[11:50] <ikonia> carpediembaby that doesn't change anything
[11:51] <ikonia> cristianmatiaz: what's the actual issue?
[11:51] <cristianmatiaz> ikonia, internet works but i cant navigate with the browser
[11:51] <ikonia> cristianmatiaz: you'll need to expand beyond that
[11:51] <ikonia> cristianmatiaz: what error are you getting, what are you actually doing ?
[11:52] <cristianmatiaz> ikonia,  i just wanna navigate to internet but the browser is looping loading nothing
[11:52] <ikonia> looping ?
[11:52] <Busserl> cristianmatiaz: have you checked your DNS setting?
[11:53] <ikonia> cristianmatiaz: first things first, what version of ubuntu are you using ?
[11:53] <cristianmatiaz> i did the test "system testig" and i recive the error failed to http
[11:53] <cristianmatiaz> ikonia, 12.04
[11:53] <ikonia> cristianmatiaz: ok, do you know how to open a terminal ?
[11:53] <cristianmatiaz> ikonia, yes
[11:53] <carpediembaby> ikonia: it does, unfortunately. at least for me. When i change the resolution, the display becomes smaller with the rest of the screen filled with black. This happens in full screen mode. In window mode, it simply resizes the window to fit the resolution. The size of the content remains the same
[11:54] <ikonia> carpediembaby: change your resolution to a usable size
[11:54] <Cool2BeBlue> :D
[11:54] <ikonia> cristianmatiaz: open a terminal and do "apt-get update" and put the output in pastebin.ubuntu.com please.
[11:54] <carpediembaby> ikonia: you mean on the host? or on the guest?
[11:54] <ikonia> cristianmatiaz: if you can't do that please do "sudo apt-get install pastebinit"
[11:54] <atreyus> buenos dias a todos
[11:54] <ikonia> carpediembaby: either the host or guest, which ever works best for you
[11:55] <cristianmatiaz> ikonia, im installing it
[11:55] <ikonia> cristianmatiaz: thank you
[11:55] <carpediembaby> ikonia: as i said, it doesn't work with the guest. I was hoping to avoid changing the resolution on the host though.
[11:56] <mat619> Hi there. I'm experiencing very weird networking behavior on this new server: its Realtek 8111/6168/8411 onboard NIC causes a huge lot of frame checksum errors and packet loss (around 25%). if I configure the interface with a static ip instead of via dhcp, I even experience 85% packet loss! Any ideas?
[11:56] <steven> anyone using ubuntu 14.04 with apache 2.2?
[11:56] <mat619> I tried changing to the original driver that Realtek provides, didn't change anything.
[11:57] <phasip> I have a ubuntu 8 machine and a usb stick with a ubuntu 14.04 install. Problem is, the computer doesn't have boot from usb. is there a simple way to update to 14.04 using this usb?
[11:57] <ikonia> steven: just ask your real question
[11:57] <Ool> isn't apache 2.4 by default with 14.04 ?
[11:57] <karooga> Hi anyone familiar with VMEbus?
[11:57] <steven> yeah thats my problem, ok well I have an svn 1.7, I cant upgrade it to 1.8 so I have to use 1.7 on the ubuntu 14.04 server
[11:57] <ikonia> karooga: just ask your real question
[11:57] <six86> Hello. I just wanted to setup a clean ubuntu 12.04.5 server installation. After installation "apt-get update" fails with "Failed to fetch ... hash sum mismatch" I know how to temporarily solve the issue, but where does the problem come from? I tried reinstalling but it still fails.
[11:57] <ikonia> steven: why is that a problem ?
[11:57] <geirha> phasip: no ... how ancient is the computer?
[11:58] <steven> so I managed to install svn1.7 but cannot install apache.24 with webdav cos the current packages require svn 1.8.9
[11:58] <Busserl> carpediembaby: So your vm is displayed too small? I'd say that's a problem with the vm-host software, it should recognize a high resolution display and resize its display accordingly.
[11:58] <ikonia> mat619: is this a home network or a professional network
[11:58] <karooga> ikonia: Can Xen expose VMEBus to guest OS?
[11:58] <mat619> ikonia: profesisonal
[11:58] <geirha> phasip: I mean it has to be quite ancient to not be able to boot usb
[11:58] <cristianmatiaz> ikonia, how can i use pastebin init?
[11:58] <ikonia> karooga: should be able to
[11:58] <ikonia> cristianmatiaz: apt-get update | pastebinit
[11:58] <Busserl> carpediembaby: Maybe you could try some remote protocol, instead of the "native" vm display.
[11:58] <ikonia> cristianmatiaz: then give us the url
[11:58] <steven> so the problem is that I can either use svn1.7 or apache24, but since they're not compatible this is not the way to go, hence I have to downgrade apache
[11:58] <cristianmatiaz> ikonia, cool!
[11:58] <steven> ikonia: ^ makes sense?
[11:59] <ikonia> mat619: check on the switch hops to see if packet loss is more/less at certain parts of the network, or if it's just the last hop
[11:59] <ikonia> steven: why are they not compatible ?
[11:59] <koell> How do I set the dpi/zoom in lubuntu 14.04? There is no setting as in the usual ubuntu :/
[11:59] <mat619> ikonia: it occurs even to the switch itself
[11:59] <ikonia> mat619: which switch....
[11:59] <phasip> geirha: It has a printer port.
[11:59] <karooga> ikonia: I can't find any documentation about it, any ideas about where I can look to confirm this?
[11:59] <carpediembaby> Busserl: no. I get the same resolution on guest as on host. But the problem is that this resolution is too high. On windows 8 (host) there is an option to zoom everything, so everything is readable. I was looking for something like that in ubuntu
[11:59] <mat619> ikonia: the switch its plugged into, so on a 1 hop distance
[12:00] <steven> cos svn in ubuntu > 1404 is not updated to the latest 1.7.17 (the current version used in ubuntu is 1.7.9) but apache24 support was introduced in 1.7.10 ikonia :D
[12:00] <ikonia> karooga maybe worth hitting the xen mailing list, good conversation on that to confirm
[12:00] <ikonia> steven: that doesnt suggest it's not compatible
[12:00] <karooga> ikonia: thanks
[12:00] <ikonia> steven: what part of svn is "not compatible"
[12:00] <steven> apache webdav <-> svn
[12:01] <karooga> ikonia: was trying the irc channel - think ppl are sleeping.  Great will try mailing list.
[12:01] <steven> I just need a convenient way to install apache2.2 on that machine, i'll only use it for webdav anyway and proxy it thru nginx
[12:01] <geirha> phasip: oh dear :)  well it's possible to get it installed, but it'll be cumbersome. Might be easier to get a DVD burned and boot that.
[12:01] <steven> I dont feel like compiling everything manually tho hence I was asking
[12:01] <ikonia> steven: the best option would be to log a bug as a crticial compatibility bug
[12:01] <cristianmatiaz> ikonia, im wating the result
[12:01] <ikonia> steven: and try get the correct webdav/svn package bumped up tot he supported version
[12:01] <ikonia> karooga: irc channel is very dead.
[12:02] <Busserl> carpediembaby: That's what I meant, the desktop and the vm software should "zoom", yes. I am not sure if such a DPI setting exists, it is unfortunately not considered often, even Google Chrome on Windows still doesn't do it right.
[12:02] <boriseto> Hello, is it possible to reformat/reinstall a system and keep all the ssh keys and ftp configurations that are made? Can I even keep the private key that I have to connect to other servers?
[12:02] <steven> no no, everything within the repos in 1404 are compatible, but I had to install an older version of svn which is not compatible with the apache stuff in 1404
[12:02] <steven> so technically its cos I need svn 1.7 rather than 1.8
[12:02] <ikonia> steven where did you get the older version ?
[12:03] <steven> I added extra repo from saucy
[12:03] <carpediembaby> Busserl: Google Chrome on windows works like a charm!
[12:03] <Busserl> mat619: So have you tried a different cable?
[12:03] <ikonia> steven: you can't mix repos
[12:03] <steven> installed and locked the installation so it doesnt upgrade to 8
[12:03] <ikonia> steven: you've probably screwed your machine with dependencies
[12:03] <six86> Hello. I just wanted to setup a clean ubuntu 12.04.5 server installation. After installation "apt-get update" fails with "Failed to fetch ... hash sum mismatch" I know how to temporarily solve the issue, but where does the problem come from? I tried reinstalling but it still fails.
[12:04] <steven> nah, only installed 3 packages from that repo and locked it, this is not the issue ikonia ;D
[12:04] <ikonia> steven: I didn't say it was the issue
[12:04] <geirha> phasip: If you do want to try a harddrive install, /msg ubottu !install
[12:04] <ikonia> steven: I said you've probably screwed your box - you can't mix repos
[12:04] <phasip> Allright geirha, I'll try that!
[12:04] <ikonia> steven: you're making an unsupportible solution, sorry
[12:04] <Busserl> carpediembaby: Not if you use the zoom option you talked about. Then it gets blurry, unlike Firefox or other updated software. But enough of Windows.
[12:04] <steven> no I did not screw anything and you can mix it, I just used it to only install 3 packages so nothing screwed up
[12:05] <ikonia> steven: sorry - you've made an unsupportable machine
[12:05] <steven> well tell me how to get svn 1.7 working on ubuntu 1404 the clean way
[12:05] <mat619> Busserl: yup. the server also has another NIC (Intel I350) which I tried using the same cable on the same switch port, 0% packet loss
[12:05] <geirha> phasip: In your case the "Install from existing Linux" is likely the most applicable.
[12:05] <ikonia> steven: no idea without any research,
[12:05] <cristianmatiaz> ikonia, doesnt show anything
[12:05] <ikonia> either way your machine is out of the bounds of this channels support
[12:05] <steven> I did not make an unsupportable machine? I can simply reverse it by remove the lock and upgrade it to the latest packages in the sources
[12:05] <ikonia> cristianmatiaz: it didn't give you a url back, that's interesting
[12:05] <carpediembaby> Busserl: maybe, i am not sure which options make it work. So is there something that can be done on ubuntu?
[12:06] <cristianmatiaz> ikonia, i don't know why :S
[12:06] <ikonia> cristianmatiaz: can you do "telnet pastebin.ubuntu.com 80"
[12:06] <ikonia> cristianmatiaz: does that give you a "prompt" back or just hang
[12:06] <Busserl> mat619: I am just guessing, but I have read about packet loss in combination with hardware checksum offload on the NIC. I'd try to disable that in the driver, if possible.
[12:06] <cristianmatiaz> ikonia,  Connected to pastebin.ubuntu.com.
[12:07] <ikonia> cristianmatiaz: ok, so you can connect to it on the web server port, interesting
[12:07] <ikonia> cristianmatiaz: have you checked the ubuntu "proxy" settings
[12:07] <ikonia> cristianmatiaz: make sure they are not enabled ?
[12:07] <cristianmatiaz> ikonia, i never change the dafult
[12:07] <ikonia> cristianmatiaz: worth double checking
[12:08] <cristianmatiaz> ikonia, where are they?
[12:08] <mat619> Busserl: oh! that's a good hint then, sounds like it could be related
[12:08] <ikonia> cristianmatiaz: you'll need to check https://help.ubuntu.com for your version I can't remember off the top of my head
[12:08] <mat619> Busserl: but to disable it in the driver I'd have to dig in the make options I guess?
[12:09] <mat619> Busserl: then I can't use r8168-dkms anymore, and every kernel update breaks my NIC driver. not cool :/
[12:10] <Busserl> mat619: I am not sure, I don't think you'd have to recompile the driver. I changed driver options of my soundcard a long time ago with an entry somewhere.
[12:10] <cristianmatiaz> ikonia, maybe something is getting busy the port?
[12:10] <ikonia> cristianmatiaz: what port ?
[12:11] <cristianmatiaz> ikonia, 8080
[12:11] <ikonia> what has 8080 got to do with anything ?
[12:11] <cristianmatiaz> ikonia, i don't know XD
[12:11] <ikonia> right, so don't say random things then
[12:12] <cristianmatiaz> ikonia, im not expert of this was just a doubt
[12:12] <Busserl> boriseto: You can reuse ssh-keys, yes. All configuration should be in /etc
[12:12] <cristianmatiaz> ikonia, im gonna go to eat somthing see you later
[12:14] <boriseto> Busserl, thank you very much.
[12:14] <ikonia> cristianmatiaz check the proxy settings as I suggested
[12:14] <boriseto> Busserl, I guess I would need to backup the .ssh folder in /home too.
[12:16] <Busserl> boriseto: that should do it, yes. Also I usually copy my old config file for ftp for example by hand into the config file, I wouldn't just overwrite it with my backup. But that's me.
[12:16] <Busserl> boriseto: I mean I'd just manually copy my changes I needed into the new install/config.
[12:17] <Busserl> boriseto: And read the man file for changes to default settings, if needed.
[12:17] <six86> nobody else an idea about the "hash sum mismatch" problem?
[12:17] <boriseto> Busserl, oh I see, will update them manually, I just need to backup them first. And do you know where the ftp connections are saved from nautilus?
[12:18] <shay_shay> anyone else using 3.16.0 having deadlocks when copying large files?
[12:19] <k1l_> shay_shay: 3.16 is not a ubuntu final verison kernel
[12:19] <eeee_> six86: sudo rm /var/lib/apt/lists/* && sudo apt-get update
[12:20] <six86> eeee_: Yeah i know... but the problem reappears with every isntallation... it can't be normal?!
[12:21] <eeee_> six86: did you try to delete the /lists/partial as well ?
[12:21] <shay_shay> k1l_: 3.16 is final version for utopic
[12:21] <eeee_> six86: try switching the servers too
[12:21] <k1l_> shay_shay: yes, which is supported in #ubuntu+1 only and is not a final at all.
[12:21] <six86> eeee_: I deleted /varlib/apt/lists/* and that fixes the problem, bu this can't be a standard step for every installation. Is this a bug somewhere?
[12:25] <eeee_> six86: i get it once in a while
[12:26] <eeee_> something to do with the server's file and the hash or checksum of the file i guess being inconsistent, i think, you dont have to delete the whole /lists/* folder you can delete the affected file and sudo apt-get update again
[12:27] <eeee_> six86: if it happens with you alot, maybe you should switch the server you are using? i am using the US main server and the main server sometimes
[12:32] <Busserl> boriseto: No, sorry. Should be in your /home folder.
[12:32] <Busserl> boriseto: all user-related settings should be there. Anything system wide is usually in /etc.
[12:33] <boriseto> Busserl, great. Thank you for all the help and for giving me directions where to look for the other things. :)
[12:35] <hanwizy> ot allow other programes
[12:35] <Busserl> boriseto: no problem, just remember to backup stuff. :)
[12:35] <six861> re
[12:35] <six861> was dropped
[12:38] <remowylliams> Hi all I'm trying to understand the HWE support situation. My understanding was 12.04 lts was going to be supported till 2017
[12:38] <boriseto> Busserl, yeap. Reconfiguring deja dup at the moment.
[12:41] <philio> hello
[12:42] <Ben64> remowylliams: it still is
[12:43] <cfhowlett_> remowylliams, 12.04 is supported until 2017.
[12:43] <viktor> i repeatedly am unable to change to permissions of my backup drive (and use it) and i think it might be physically broken. can anybody tell me how i can determine this?
[12:43] <boriseto> Busserl, just in case somebody else has the same questions as me, all the credentials for nautilus are saved in seahorse. Again, thank you and have a nice day.
[12:43] <remowylliams> cfhowlett_: but any kernel bugs are not going to be fixed etc.
[12:44] <Ben64> remowylliams: who said that?
[12:44] <Busserl> boriseto: Thank you. :)
[12:44] <remowylliams> Ben64: that's what the HWE thing is saying http://wiki.ubuntu.com/1204_HWE_EOL
[12:44] <cfhowlett_> remowylliams, eh?  kernel upgrades are a regular event!
[12:45] <Ben64> remowylliams: if you are using the standard 12.04 kernel, its supported till 2017, and if you're using trusty's kernel with the HWE, its supported till 2017. I'm not seeing a problem here
[12:45] <cfhowlett_> remowylliams, as noted on that same page: 12.04.5, or 14.04 will fix.
[12:46] <remowylliams> Ben64: I've been trying the update suggestions sudo do-release-upgrade as an example with no update available
[12:47] <cfhowlett_> remowylliams, sudo do-release-upgrade -p                      will see 14.04
[12:47] <Ben64> remowylliams: do-release-upgrade is how you go to 14.04. i thought you wanted to stay on 12.04?
[12:48] <remowylliams> lsb_release -d says Description:    Ubuntu 12.04.4 LTS
[12:48] <xinghizkhan> hello, how can metadata be deleted from pdf files?
[12:50] <kostkon> remowylliams: you haven't even installed the latest updates? 12.04.5 is out. your lsb_release should say 12.04.5
[12:50] <X140-3G> Hey all! Little help for install 3G modem (LG X140)...
[12:51] <remowylliams> kostkon: I've tried most everything I know to do an update. I'll go back and check again.
[12:51] <xinghizkhan> ok, I think I found it; sudo apt-get install pdftk  it must be this tool, I guess?
[12:51] <remowylliams> kostkon: this is ubuntu server which it seems doesn't come with update-manager?
[12:52] <cfhowlett_> remowylliams, the sysadmin IS the "update manager" on server ...
[12:53] <FabulFabiFabo> Hi body body
[12:54] <FabulFabiFabo> there is peapol use iptables-persistan in ubuntu 14.04 ?
[13:05] <kunal27891> I has installed Mate 1.8 on top of Ubuntu , my nm-applet does not work
[13:05] <PechosRey> Hi
[13:05] <kunal27891> Hi
[13:05] <Penny22>  You can find funny videos here. http://bitly.com/1mCp5tB
[13:06] <cfhowlett_> !ops | Penny22, spam porn
[13:06] <kunal27891> nm-applet does not work please help
[13:07] <trijntje> !details | kunal27891
[13:07] <kunal27891> I installed Mate 1.8 on top of Ubuntu , after installing my network applet does not show up in mate menu
[13:08] <cfhowlett_> !patience | kunal27891
[13:08] <kunal27891> when i fire nm-applet in terminal it works
[13:09] <trijntje> kunal27891: so it doesn't start automatically
[13:09] <trijntje> !startup
[13:09] <kunal27891> exactly
[13:11] <kunal27891> I startup programs the network manager applet is there but it doesn't fire up on startup
[13:11] <kunal27891> In startup programs the network manager applet is there but it doesn't fire up on startup
[13:12] <mat619> Busserl: A'ight... I toyed around with hardware checksum offloading, but still no good
[13:12] <mykrobinson76> morning, all
[13:12] <mat619> Busserl: in fact, nothing changed at all
[13:13] <mat619> Busserl: still insane amounts of packet loss
[13:13] <mykrobinson76> Need some assistance in 14.04 with disabling an interrupt that is causing high cpu by the process kworder. Details here:   http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2238674
[13:14] <kunal27891> does anyone know where is nm-applet located in linux ??
[13:15] <cfhowlett_> kunal27891, open a terminal: whereis nm-applet
[13:15] <kunal27891> thanks
[13:17] <dhanu> hello everyone :)
[13:21] <PechosRey> hi
[13:22] <PechosRey> i got trouble while updating ubuntu 12.04 to 14.04
[13:22] <cfhowlett_> !details | PechosRey,
[13:22] <PechosRey> while updating, the muon updater forced me to stop kdm and i got into console
[13:23] <PechosRey> now after a reboot i always get to the console
[13:23] <cfhowlett_> PechosRey, muon updater?  the default ubuntu updater is preferred ... or you could use the command line
[13:23] <PechosRey> if i do startx xwindows appears for few seconds then i am back in console
[13:24] <MonkeyDust> !info muon
[13:24] <cfhowlett_> MonkeyDust, ty
[13:24] <mboeru> hello, can anyone tell me where I can find the ubuntu source code repository of the initrd scripts?
[13:24] <cfhowlett_> MonkeyDust, learn something new everyday
[13:24] <MonkeyDust> cfhowlett_  didnt know it either
[13:25] <cfhowlett_> PechosRey, if you can see the command line: sudo do-release-upgrade -p
[13:26] <PechosRey> ah thanks that`s what i would ask for
[13:26] <PechosRey> didnt`know a command to go back into the upgrade process
[13:26] <editorx> a "dpkg-reconfigure x11-common" might solve something?
[13:29] <PechosRey> sudo do-release-upgrade -p is not working
[13:29] <PechosRey> no new publishes found
[13:29] <cfhowlett_> PechosRey, cat /etc/issue
[13:29] <editorx> PechosRey, a "cat /var/log/Xorg.0.log" what shows? Why doesn't it start?
[13:31] <PechosRey> cat /etc/issue -> Ubuntu 14.04.1 LTS \n \l
[13:31] <PechosRey> but it has sure not finisdhed the upgrade process
[13:31] <PechosRey> it was below 50%
[13:31] <cfhowlett_> PechosRey, editorx seems to have insight into your Xorg issues.  work with him.  then complete the upgrade
[13:32] <PechosRey> output of the Xorg.0.log is very very long should i look for something special?
[13:33] <kennen> Hi, i have an broken dd image, and need to check this with fsck, can i tell fsck an offset for the right partition?
[13:34] <MonkeyDust> PechosRey  try sudo dpkg --configure -a
[13:34] <PechosRey> if i do startx it starts kdm and desktop then i got the mouse pointer and a black screen
[13:35] <cfhowlett_> PechosRey, curious: are you running kubuntu?
[13:35] <Guest64536> come funziona?
[13:35] <cfhowlett_> why the KDE stuff
[13:35] <PechosRey> yes kubuntu
[13:36] <cfhowlett_> !it|Guest64536,
[13:37] <Guest64536> grazie
[13:38] <frsfett4> hello
[13:38] <frsfett4> How to report a audio bug in xbuntu?
[13:38] <sad> Hi
[13:39] <MonkeyDust> frsfett4  start by describing your issue here
[13:39] <mboeru> how would someone commit a patch in let's say the initrd scripts in ubuntu?
[13:39] <frsfett4> My AC97 audio card not working correctly on Xbuntu 14.0.4.1
[13:39] <cfhowlett_> !bug|frsfett4,
[13:40] <frsfett4> Tried the daily alsa build, not working.
[13:40] <MonkeyDust> frsfett4  "not working correctly" is a bit vague
[13:40] <frsfett4> I play music the sound is skipping and distorted.
[13:42] <kennen> Can someone tell me how i can run fsck on the second partition of an dd image? (its ext4)
[13:42] <PechosRey> dpkg --configure -a also not helping pc hangs after this
[13:42] <frsfett4> Any fix for the audio?
[13:42] <MonkeyDust> frsfett4  what would you write in the bug description ... write that here, in one line
[13:43] <danielhyuuga> o.o
[13:43] <danielhyuuga> hi
[13:44] <danielhyuuga> what version of ubuntu does everyone use here?
[13:45] <MonkeyDust> danielhyuuga  one op the supported versions, type /topic to find out what versions are supported
[13:45] <cfhowlett_> danielhyuuga, doesn't matter.  no polls please.  chitchat in #ubuntu-offtopic
[13:45] <necrogami> 5.04 \o/
[13:45] <necrogami> lol
[13:46] <danielhyuuga> nah im not trying to open a poll or what, just asking cause im kinda seeking for how to submit feedback for ubuntu 14.10
[13:46] <PechosRey> is there a chance to resume the upgrade process i started under X with this command kubuntu-devel-release-upgrade in the console mode
[13:46] <MonkeyDust> danielhyuuga  #ubuntu+1 for 14.10
[13:46] <danielhyuuga> thank you
[13:48] <PechosRey> i also tried update-manager -d but this also needs a running X server
[13:50] <PechosRey> so there is no solution to resume an uncompleted upgrade process from console without running X?
[13:50] <PechosRey> only chance is to get X running again?
[13:51] <MonkeyDust> PechosRey  what you can try: boot in repair mode (don't remember the exact name), then select repair packages
[13:52] <PechosRey> ok i will try this
[13:53] <PechosRey> is there a way to scroll the console output of a log file?
[13:53] <PechosRey> just checking Xorg.0.log for error but it`s very long
[13:54] <PechosRey> i only see the last few lines of output
[13:54] <marianne_> hi guys.... quick question -- currently have a iMac with 10.8.5 installed (late 2013 hardware)... anyone here ever attempt an upgrade to ubuntu? if so known issues?
[13:54] <cfhowlett_> !mac | marianne_
[13:58] <LMU850T> Little help with 3G modem LUM850T
[13:58] <LMU850T> idVendor 0x1004 idProduct 0x6169
[13:58] <PechosRey> repair packages also not helping
[13:59] <PechosRey> but is it possible to force a reinstall of all the Xorg components
[13:59] <PechosRey> i am sure the upgrade process was at the xorg modules because i got forced to change to console mode
[13:59] <pbx> i've installed davmail (on 14.04) and have no tray icon for it. looks like i need this patch, but if anybody knows another workaround please share!  https://launchpad.net/~timekiller/+archive/ubuntu/unity-systrayfix
[14:01] <marianne_> finally upgraded my 12.04 to 14.4 and it went flawlessly...
[14:02] <cfhowlett_> marianne_, upgrade in place or clean install?
[14:02] <MonkeyDust> PechosRey  try a fresh install, that takes about 15 minutes -- backup first
[14:04] <PechosRey> wanted to avoid backing up all the folders
[14:04] <PechosRey> does it help to delete the xorg config?
[14:04] <cfhowlett_> !home | PechosRey, make a dedicated /home
[14:05] <MonkeyDust> PechosRey  by backing up, you can avoid the struggle you're having now
[14:07] <marianne_> bummer...looks like there isn't any documentation for the model i have... guess I'm over to the iMac forums to look for a fix
[14:07] <PechosRey> too sad the upgrade script won`t run without X
[14:08] <PechosRey> is it possible to boot with live cd and resume upgrade from there
[14:09] <dhanu> jj
[14:09] <dhanu> j
[14:10] <cfhowlett_> PechosRey, never seen it done  that way ...
[14:12] <frainfreeze> i have 2 questions, in softwarecenter it only ofers me to "use the source " why?
[14:13] <PechosRey> ok then it seems i have to backup my home folder and do a clean install :(
[14:13] <MonkeyDust> PechosRey  that's the easiest, fastest and cleanest way
[14:14] <PechosRey> hopefully i won`t miss any important folders
[14:14] <frainfreeze> How do I change to download?
[14:14] <MonkeyDust> PechosRey  simply backup your complete /home folder
[14:15] <MonkeyDust> frainfreeze  because soem source are not active by default, you have to activate them
[14:15] <frainfreeze> No it is for all software, it only ofers source
[14:16] <frainfreeze> mybe I just need to update software chache?
[14:17] <frainfreeze> nope deosn't help
[14:19] <frainfreeze> any idea guys?
[14:20] <frainfreeze> help :P
[14:20] <k1l> frainfreeze: which ubuntu is it exactly?
[14:20] <frainfreeze> 14.04
[14:20] <frainfreeze> ethernet conection
[14:21] <tekk> hi guys, i’m finding USB 3.0 on Ubuntu 14.04 to be a little sluggish… a drive I can get 400MB/s out of on Mac OS X…. gets around 40MB/s on Ubuntu 14.04… is this expected?
[14:21] <frainfreeze> tekk idk for mac but ubuntu is faster than windows, so you might have a problem
[14:22] <tekk> so the usb 3.0 stack in Ubuntu should work as expected?
[14:22] <frainfreeze> works fine for me, I m not expert nor I know anything about it, sorry
[14:23] <frainfreeze> kll
[14:24] <frainfreeze> if i select "use this source" after it downloads I can use software how can i avoid downloading source ? or is it suposed to be like that? | kll
[14:24] <k1l> what software is it?
[14:24] <frainfreeze> every single one
[14:26] <MonkeyDust> frainfreeze  maybe everything you want, is in sources that are not activated by default -- or are you using ppas?
[14:26] <MonkeyDust> frainfreeze  e.g.: universe must be activated by the user
[14:27] <frainfreeze> MonkeyDust , I have no Idea, I just switched from windows
[14:27] <MonkeyDust> frainfreeze  ok, so the whole concept of repositories is new to you?
[14:28] <smv> after installing Ubuntu 14.04.1 from CD on a ProBook 4530s the system never boots. initially it booted in efi mode, and the whole system worked fine from the live CD. I believe it has something to do with the hdd partitioning layout, but I don't know where to start checking from. any advices>
[14:28] <smv> ?
[14:28] <frainfreeze> Everything is new, I mean I used ubuntu 12 for some time, i know how to use terminal, etc but nothing about repositories
[14:31] <k1l> frainfreeze: http://askubuntu.com/a/148645/31260
[14:34] <Phuzzy> Hi, can anyone point me to the change log for 12.04.5?
[14:34] <maddawg> wow... chrome's remote desktop actually works quite well in ubuntu
[14:34] <maddawg> O_O... impressive
[14:34] <frainfreeze> kll, i did that and there was no effect, ut you just need to close and reopen software center :D
[14:34] <frainfreeze> thank you
[14:36] <k1l> Phuzzy: its not a change. its more like a "servicepack" with all recent updates for bugs and security fixes since 12.04.4
[14:37] <Phuzzy> k1l: thats exactly what im looking for
[14:37] <Phuzzy> as in what packages are now in by default
[14:38] <k1l> Phuzzy: the same version numbers as of the 12.04 release
[14:39] <MonkeyDust> Phuzzy  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/LTSEnablementStack#A12.04.5_.2B-_14.04_Hardware_Enablement_Stack_Policies_and_Procedures
[14:39] <Phuzzy> so then what is supposed to go here? --> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PrecisePangolin/ReleaseNotes/ChangeSummary/12.04.5
[14:41] <MonkeyDust> Phuzzy  the bold text explains what it is or what you can do: it doenst exist yet
[14:41] <k1l> Phuzzy: i think they are still working on it
[14:41] <k1l> Phuzzy: just look up the specific packages you are interested
[14:41] <k1l> packages.ubuntu.com
[14:45] <Phuzzy> right. thanks!
[14:45] <frsfett4> Pulseaudio make sound skipping.
[14:46] <frsfett4> Any idea how to report this bug?
[14:46] <NicksCode> Ohh if I try to open a video with ogg theora totem crashes, and nautoilus crashes if I try to see its properties weird
[14:46] <NicksCode> nautilus*
[14:47] <frsfett4> Using audacious and pulseaudio make sound distorted and skipping.
[14:47] <MonkeyDust> frsfett4  still reporting 'bugs' are you ... if you don't get answer here, ask in #ubuntu-studio, it's multimedia dedicated
[14:49] <frsfett4> the channel is invited only.
[14:49] <MonkeyDust> frsfett4  then !register first
[14:50] <frsfett4> I am from china.
[14:50] <frsfett4> I have no acess to google
[14:50] <somsip> !register | frsfett4
[14:51] <frsfett4> can you send me a proxy app called goagent?
[14:51] <maddawg> are you in china?
[14:51] <frsfett4> I cannot download it.
[14:51] <maddawg> why not?
[14:51] <MonkeyDust> frsfett4  then use duckduckgo instead of google
[14:51] <cfhowlett_> frsfett4, use baidu
[14:51] <frsfett4> Yes, the country block google
[14:52] <maddawg> haha
[14:52] <maddawg> get a new country
[14:52] <somsip> !behelpful | maddawg
[14:52] <maddawg> also you should use VPN not a proxy
[14:53] <maddawg> especially in china.. china has blocked a lot of proxy servers now
[14:53] <maddawg> if they block the ability to download the app most likely all the IPs that the apps proxies to are also probably blocked
[14:53] <maddawg> try out mullvad or PIA
[14:54] <NicksCode> When trying to open a video file with OGG theora codec totem segafaults and if I try to view its proerties nautilus segafaults too, got any idea what could that be?
[14:54] <maddawg> (mullvad offeres a free trial)
[14:54] <XYZAFFA1R> I am trying to compile something from source and on the "make" step it returns an error, here is terminal output: http://sprunge.us/fLdJ
[14:54] <MonkeyDust> frsfett4  keep it in the channel please, no pm
[14:55] <frsfett4> I am using bing instead.
[14:55] <brontosaurusrex> XYZAFFA1R, is that from git?
[14:56] <XYZAFFA1R> brontosaurusrex: Yes
[14:56] <frsfett4> MonkeyDust, can you send me?
[14:56] <XYZAFFA1R> brontosaurusrex: https://github.com/yvt/openspades.git
[14:57] <brontosaurusrex> XYZAFFA1R, let me try ...
[14:57] <XYZAFFA1R> ok
[14:58] <brontosaurusrex> XYZAFFA1R, did you read the README.md ?
[14:59] <MonkeyDust> frsfett4  www.duckduckgo.com
[14:59] <XYZAFFA1R> brontosaurusrex: Of course.
[15:00] <mahdi> Hi every body
[15:01] <mahdi> I have a question and I'm new here
[15:01] <cfhowlett_> !ask | mahdi
[15:01] <marcrs> does anyone have a "Broadcom Corporation BCM43228 802.11a/b/g/n [14e4:4359]" network controller working under Ubuntu 14.04? I'm trying to investigate an issue with the broadcom-sta driver whichs does not seem to work properly.
[15:01] <mahdi> Ok. what is best idea for learning Kernel ?
[15:02] <cfhowlett_> !kernel | mahdi
[15:02] <cfhowlett_> mahdi, http://www.linuxlinks.com/article/20090405061458383/20oftheBestFreeLinuxBooks-Part1.html
[15:02] <brontosaurusrex> XYZAFFA1R, SDL compile with no problems?
[15:03] <XYZAFFA1R> brontosaurusrex: Yes
[15:06] <BlackWings> hellow
[15:06] <BlackWings> anybody here with good knowledge of website security/host security & linux ?
[15:07] <xjkx> When will ubuntu 14.10 be released ?
[15:07] <somsip> xjkx: october
[15:07] <xjkx> somsip: thanks
[15:08] <cfhowlett_>  BlackWings ##linux
[15:12] <roadtrip> Is there a certificate exam called Linux+? And what is it?
[15:12] <cfhowlett_> roadtrip, ask ##linux
[15:12] <cfhowlett_> roadtrip, or ask #ubuntu-offtopic
[15:13] <roadtrip> thanks cfhowlett.
[15:13] <chriys> Hi all, I'm running ubuntu 14.04 but for some reason I can't manage to change DocumentRoot
[15:14] <xangua> chriys: document root? elaborate
[15:14] <Duxiutao> Hi there, my window does not display title bar, what should I do?
[15:14] <MonkeyDust> chriys  that's a server?
[15:15] <MonkeyDust> chriys  iirc, documentroot is a specification in dhcp settings or so
[15:15] <Duxiutao> `uname -a` shows this:
 chriys  that's a server?
[15:15] <Duxiutao> #57-Ubuntu SMP Tue Jul 15 03:51:12 UTC
[15:16] <pbx> any gnome-do users know if there's a plugin for fast user switching?
[15:16] <chriys> xangua MonkeyDust Duxiutao MonkeyDust: I'm talking about apache 2 I want to change the folder where the website is hosted. Instead of /var/www I want /home/myuser/html
[15:16] <MonkeyDust> chriys  apache is also server technology ... is that a server?
[15:17] <MonkeyDust> chriys  if yes: better ask in #ubuntu-server
[15:17] <cfhowlett_> !server | chriys
[15:18] <Duxiutao> chriys, you better ask this in #apache
[15:18] <Duxiutao> MonkeyDust, my title bar disapeared, what should I do?
[15:19] <MonkeyDust> Duxiutao  title bar of what exactly?
[15:19] <chriys> MonkeyDust: I was talking about apache 2.2 that little web server that you put you website in it to allow people to see.
[15:19] <Duxiutao> MonkeyDust, title bar of every window
[15:20] <MonkeyDust> Duxiutao  what's the output of   cat /etc/issue
[15:20] <Duxiutao> I googled this, people always say I should run metacity --replace
[15:20] <Duxiutao> but I haven't install that program
[15:21] <Duxiutao> MonkeyDust, nothing there
[15:22] <MonkeyDust> Duxiutao  what's the output of    lsb_release -sd
[15:23] <Duxiutao> nothing either...
[15:23] <MonkeyDust> Duxiutao  are you in ubuntu right now, or in any other linux distro?
[15:25] <Duxiutao> ah ... in ubuntu but another distribution under ubuntu 14.10, called kylin:for chinese users
[15:25] <McDuckie> hello
[15:25] <McDuckie> how can i check if a port is blocked on a server?
[15:25] <Duxiutao> hi, McDuckie
[15:25] <McDuckie> i am trying to talk to a smtp server but keep getting connrefused
[15:25] <MonkeyDust> Duxiutao  it's impossible that don't have output for the commands I suggested
[15:25] <cfhowlett_> Duxiutao, 14.10?  ask in #ubuntu+1
[15:25] <cfhowlett_> !cn | Duxiutao
[15:26] <Duxiutao> cfhowlett_, thks, 14.04, sorry, I am in 14.04
[15:26] <zerothis> my isp has capped me. only seems to affect major sites like google, amazon, etc. is there a way to bypass?
[15:27] <JNixx> zerothis. What have they capped? Your bandwidth?
[15:27] <cfhowlett_> zerothis, yes.  pay for the premium package
[15:27] <reon_> How would I merge the packages listed on the right hand side off on http://packages.ubuntu.com/uk/precise/amd64/ifinnish ?
[15:28] <|Lord_Zoo|> 
[15:28] <cfhowlett_> Duxiutao, also: #ubuntukylin-devel
[15:28] <zerothis> jnixx: yup, 2.5gb. premium package offers only 1gb more for %50 more cost (for that I'd just buy as two customers and get 5gb)
[15:29] <JNixx> zerothis: Not much you can do at all. They control the pipes.'
[15:29] <reon_> I have ispell-fi_0.7.orig.tar.gz, ispell-fi_0.7-18.diff & ispell-fi_0.7-18.dsc how do I manually merge them assuming they are to be merged?
[15:30] <zerothis> cfhowlett_: jnixx: what's the point of Linux if I can't stick-it-to-the-man?
[15:30] <MonkeyDust> reon_  maybe the people in #bash have a tip or script
[15:30] <JNixx> zerothis: You control Linux, but you don't control server providing you with internet unfortunately :(
[15:30] <Pici> MonkeyDust: this is more of a packaging question
[15:30] <cfhowlett_> zerothis, not the business of this channel.
[15:31] <zerothis> jnixx: cfhowlett: since the cap only affects major sites and everything except web works, I figured I could tunnel past somehow
[15:32] <gundy> ch
[15:34] <JNixx> zerothis: You can try, but i can't see it working. It would be strange if it did.
[15:35] <zerothis> <-- uses Linux. JNixx: "t would be strange" if i were worried about looking strange I'd join the Apple cult
[15:37] <MonkeyDust> zerothis  what the people in this channel are saying, is that it cannot be done
[15:39] <zerothis> i once used Linux to tunnel my Gamecube through FTP for multiplayer. I have Linux, I can do anything. Just can't remember how i did it
[15:41] <JNixx> zerothis: You are being throttled by a company who controls the equipment your data needs to travel through. They can do whatever they want. It's not like a Gamecube and a Gnu/Linux system you have at home.
[15:42] <ndboost> can something like tmux handle ssh'ing to remote hosts? I'm on a windows box and I ssh into an ubuntu box and do most of my work from that box. Often times I'll ssh from that ubuntu box to various other systems..
[15:43] <somsip> ndboost: yes, but nesting can get a bit weird to control
[15:43] <ndboost> it'd be nice if i could do something like split screens on that single putty/ubuntu box and have ssh sessions from my ubuntu box to 4 different servers
[15:43] <ndboost> nesting... hm
[15:44] <Artemis3> sounds a job for tmux
[15:44] <OEP> ndboost: I think that's sort of the big use case of tmux; ssh to a system once and get multiple shell sessions
[15:44] <somsip> ndboost: so you can ssh to #1, set up your screens, open connections to the other 4. But if you want to then open tmux on one of the other 4, it can get weird
[15:44] <ndboost> OEP, but multiple shell sessions which would ssh to different hosts :)
[15:44] <ndboost> ah okay somsip that seems what i want to do
[15:45] <OEP> ndboost: you can run any arbitrary commands in a tmux subshell; it is a fully functional shell
[15:45] <ndboost> would i use something like tmux new-window
[15:45] <somsip> ndboost: I would use on new window for each connection, but that's just my preference as I use a tiling WM so don't need to split tmux screens
[15:46] <OEP> Does anyone know if they will release a new minimal CD installer for 12.04.5 (with a 3.5 series kernel or greater)
[15:46] <SimonJR> what are best themes for ubuntu 14.04 where can I get them?
[15:46] <MonkeyDust> !themes | SimonJR we cannot decide what you like most
[15:47] <mjuszczak> Trying to get the source of this package: https://launchpad.net/~jon-severinsson/+archive/ubuntu/ffmpeg -- any ideas?  I've tried every combination with bzr clone and I've also tried the lp-source binary
[15:48] <SimonJR> ok thanx will check it out later
[15:48] <SimonJR> do I need to use terminal to install it or can I just download and install it
[15:49] <SimonJR> somebody please help me with ubuntu software centre the search menu is missing
[15:50] <SimonJR> there use to be a search box at the right but it is now missing why?
[15:51] <SimonJR> for ubuntu 14.04
[15:51] <mjuszczak> Is there a channel for package builds?
[15:51] <viliny> hey guys
[15:52] <JNixx> viliny: Hi :)
[15:52] <viliny> my isp keeps shutting off my internet service because allegedly i have suspicious traffic. I've combed everything down and can't find what they are talking about. I run a lot of ssh related stuff from home due to also working there and having a mesh vpn going etc etc
[15:52] <viliny> all my traffic at home is routed through my ubuntu server
[15:53] <JNixx> viliny: You have to get them to be more specific. SSH and VPN traffic isn't a concern for an ISP.
[15:53] <viliny> anyone able to recommend a good program to fine comb the traffic and see all outbound ssh connections and their destination?
[15:53] <viliny> Oh how i've tried
[15:53] <viliny> im expecting a phone call from somebody who isn't a complete dumbarse tomorrow...
[15:53] <viliny> this is the third time i've talked them into re-enabling the connection
[15:54] <JNixx> viliny. You could setup an IDS system between your modem and your network.
[15:54] <JNixx> That might pickup something
[15:54] <JNixx> viliny: Also, are you sure now one else has gotten access to a wireless/cabled network you have at home?
[15:55] <viliny> cabled no, wireless... not likely
[15:55] <viliny> id see their devices in the dhcp leases and or client list on the ap
[15:55] <viliny> i actually have snort installed on the server, but i can't pick up any alerts
[15:57] <JNixx> viliny: Without knowing exactly what they call "suspicious traffic" it's hard to diagnose the problem. If it was botnet traffic then you know what to look for. But just getting told that you have sus data coming out of your network is not really enough info.
[15:57] <NeoGeo64> Hey all, I have a quick question:  I have been using Ubuntu on my USB drive for a few weeks and have made it my home, by changing settings, adding programs, etc.  When I install it to my HDD, will it just be a default, normal install or will it keep all of my programs and settings I have added while running in live mode?
[15:57] <NeoGeo64> Actually, it's Linux Mint 17 but its based off Ubuntu.
[15:57] <viliny> JNixx: i know i know, last time they came with port 135 blaa blaa  blaa and i shut off the port completely, this time my network is apparently trying to brute force ssh
[15:57] <MonkeyDust> NeoGeo64  ask in the mint channel and don't expect a quick answer
[15:58] <viliny> this is probably just... their automated systems failing with my heavy network use - but i'd like to inventory all outbound connections to check if they are legit or if there really is a problem
[15:58] <NeoGeo64> Well, suppose that I am running Ubuntu live off USB.
[15:58] <viliny> any experience with smoothwall?
[15:58] <NeoGeo64> Would installing Ubuntu from the USB drive keep all the settings and programs I added while running in live mode?
[15:59] <MonkeyDust> NeoGeo64  too late, we now know that we cannot help you, because it's modified by the mint people and we don't know what they modified
[15:59] <Pici> NeoGeo64: no
[15:59] <JNixx> viliny: There is a worm going around that infects systems with open port 135 and port 445 from memory. As far as i know it was a Windows dll.
[15:59] <NeoGeo64> Well, what if this was Ubuntu.
[15:59] <NeoGeo64> I also have an Ubuntu USB installation
[15:59] <JNixx> viliny: It would try to brute force SSH
[16:00] <NeoGeo64> I'm undecided as what to commit to... so will my settings and programs be installed or will it be a default install where I have to re-add everything?
[16:00] <NeoGeo64> i also use ubuntu on USB
[16:00] <viliny> any idea what it was called JNixx ?
[16:01]  * NeoGeo64 is sorry for wasting your time.
[16:01]  * NeoGeo64 thought this was a place for help
[16:01] <JNixx> viliny: We picked up multiple copies of the same worm. It's polymorphic so it has a bunch of different hashes, but i'll get you a link to it from virustotal
[16:01] <viliny> NeoGeo64: whats up?
[16:01] <NeoGeo64> just read up.
[16:01] <viliny> thank you JNixx
[16:01] <MonkeyDust> viliny  he wants mint support
[16:01] <ndboost> got tmux working, thanks for the help everyone
[16:01] <NeoGeo64> I also had a Ubuntu question
[16:02] <NeoGeo64> ugh I'll just go to Google.
[16:02] <viliny> NeoGeo64:
[16:02] <JNixx> viliny: http://mcaf.ee/wvi5e
[16:02] <NeoGeo64> viliny:
[16:02] <viliny> NeoGeo64: mint is based off ubuntu but mint has its own channel, ubuntu is based on debian but again, own channeö
[16:03] <viliny> people tend to want to have disribution specific things in their own channels
[16:03] <hamiltont> If I want to install the /etc/apt/sources.list for erlang (see https://www.erlang-solutions.com/downloads/download-erlang-otp ) , is there a one-liner I can use to properly say 'trusty' or 'precise' , etc?
[16:04] <viliny> what you want is irc.spotchat.org -> #linuxmint-help
[16:04] <viliny> apparently...
[16:04] <JNixx> viliny: Once the malware is extrated from that file you end up with http://mcaf.ee/9cq3v which is the actual executable.
[16:04] <viliny> that gave me very little content
[16:05] <dario_> rm -fvr $HOME/.xchat2/budus.so $HOME/.xchat2/buduscript/
[16:05] <hamiltont> ah, I see
[16:05] <viliny> i only see the headers on these links of yours
[16:05] <JNixx> viliny: strange. I'll just link the full link
[16:06] <JNixx> viliny: Dropfile > https://www.virustotal.com/en-gb/file/a71bd8965a4eaeee48ffa2c99f5c7d20a763fa1a765d5769412f2f61482aa7b9/analysis/
[16:06] <JNixx> viliny: extracted executable: https://www.virustotal.com/en-gb/file/5d243f17cd22d50b129507c4732bf39105ed1f52f4a3a8b3d57425939f9279ae/analysis/
[16:06] <JNixx> viliny: I doubt you have it, but it's going around and very active.
[16:07] <viliny> hmm
[16:07] <viliny> i happen to have avg as a knee jerk reaction to this
[16:07] <viliny> i used to use immunet that was based on clamav but didn't bother with its end of life and new desktop...
[16:08] <viliny> point being, avg doesn't seem to detect it
[16:09] <JNixx> viliny: At least not the dropfile. It detect the payload. But newer signatures should detect it. The problem is it's polymorphic, but they all have similarities and herustics should pick it up.
[16:10] <viliny> yeah, im trying adawares virus scanner again
[16:11] <JNixx> BRB
[16:12] <GGChatUser142074> w
[16:16] <fujitsu> f
[16:18] <JNixx> back
[16:20] <Rohan_m> Hello i got a new isp when i try to ssh from windows using putty it works but from ubuntu when i try with openssh it fails connection times out what can be the problem however with my previous ISP i was able to use SSH both from ubuntu and windows What can be the problem ?
[16:21] <JNixx> It shouldn't be an ISP problem
[16:21] <JNixx> Are you using the GUI on Ubuntu or the terminal?
[16:22] <Rohan_m> JNixx: terminal
[16:23] <Rohan_m> JNixx: there
[16:23] <k1l> Rohan_m: you need to give the user with the "ssh" command. it uses the default user if no username is given
[16:23] <JNixx> so when you do: "ssh user@111.111.111.111" it justtimes out?
[16:23] <Rohan_m> k1l: i use command like this "ssh user@host"
[16:24] <JNixx> firewall not blocking outgoing port 22 (or which ever port you use)?
[16:25] <idimmu> is your ubuntu box actually able to connect to the internet?
[16:25] <Rohan_m> idimmu: yes ! but at facebook.com data loss becomes to 99% after sometime however with other ISP netowrk it works fine
[16:26] <Rohan_m> JNixx: did not get you can you please explain
[16:27] <JNixx> Rohan_m: I asked if the firewall on your Ubuntu computer could be blocking outgoing connections on the port you use for SSH, normally port 22.
[16:28] <tsar> Hi. I have installed gnome-do and it isn't running. Terminal output is empty. What can I do to make it work?
[16:28] <Rohan_m> JNixx: i dont know about firewall how do icheck but ssh works when i switch to ther ISP on same router by changing the line both are DHCP
[16:28] <Rohan_m> JNixx: *other isp
[16:29] <JNixx> Rohan_m: Can you explain what you do to change "ISP" in detail pleasde? So I understand what exactly you are doing.
[16:30] <Rohan_m> JNixx: i have a TP link wlan router i simply plug out one ISP's WAN cable and interchange it with other one's
[16:32] <Rohan_m> JNixx: there ?
[16:33] <JNixx> Rohan_m: Well That shouldn't affect your internal network at all. It should just change the public IP address you have.
[16:33] <MindSupernova> how can I get skype working again?
[16:33] <MonkeyDust> MindSupernova  what happens when you try?
[16:33] <JNixx> rohan_m: where is the PC you want to SSH into from this Ubuntu machine?
[16:33] <ryan_46> kil
[16:33] <MindSupernova> MonkeyDust, doesn't connect
[16:33] <Rohan_m> JNixx: NY
[16:34] <ryan_46> sorry wrong paste
[16:34] <MonkeyDust> MindSupernova  sure your username and password are correct?
[16:34] <JNixx> Rohan_m: I dno't know, maybe IP filtering on the other end?
[16:34] <MindSupernova> yeah I tested it on the skype site MonkeyDust
[16:35] <Rohan_m> MonkeyDust: they are correct
[16:35] <Rohan_m> JNixx: no cause it works from putty when i'm on windows
[16:35] <OerHeks> MindSupernova, what version, 4.2?
[16:35] <MindSupernova> OerHeks, how do I find that out?
[16:36] <OerHeks> MindSupernova, in skype itself, in softwarecenter ..
[16:36] <JNixx> Rohan_m: I'm not sure. There is no difference SSHing from Windows with putty or Ubuntu with openssh
[16:36] <MindSupernova> OerHeks, 4.2
[16:36] <kostkon> MindSupernova, get 4.3
[16:36] <OerHeks> MindSupernova, there should be an update to 4.3, skype blocked connections from 4.2 now
[16:37] <MindSupernova> how?
[16:37] <OerHeks> just update
[16:37] <Rohan_m> JNixx: also facebook open while i'm on windows but does not open from ubuntu and android also whatsapp doest work when i'm on that ISP however facebook works from windows i did a mtr
[16:37] <kostkon> MindSupernova, repos have 4.3 already. what version of ubuntu are you on?
[16:37] <JNixx> Rohan_m: Have you check your DNS settings on Ubuntu
[16:37] <MonkeyDust> Microsoft forces people to upgrade to 4.3, there's an angry blog about it
[16:37] <OerHeks> MindSupernova, what ubuntu version are you using?
[16:37] <Rohan_m> JNixx: yeah !
[16:37] <MindSupernova> OerHeks, 12.04
[16:37] <expunge> 4.3 of what?
[16:38] <MindSupernova> OerHeks, should I try rebooting? I already did sudo apt-get update and don't see a change
[16:38] <JNixx> Rohan_m: Can you try giving your Ubnutu box a static IP and static DNS (8.8.8.8 for example)
[16:38] <kostkon> MindSupernova, you need to enable the Partner repo and then you'll get the update
[16:38] <MindSupernova> kostkon, how?
[16:38] <Rohan_m> JNixx: yeah i did that but DNS automatically comes back to 127.0.1.1
[16:39] <viliny> JNixx: hey so back again, ran a scan on all computers and results are 6 cookies, which are the same across computers no other problems...
[16:39] <kostkon> MindSupernova, open the update manager, click on settings, then on 3rd party software
[16:39] <Rohan_m> JNixx: i did it from /etc/resolv.conf
[16:39] <OerHeks> MindSupernova, i have no info that skype 4.3 is not available for 12.04
[16:39] <viliny> these computers be recently reinstalled and stuff, so im back to trying to figure out the ssh traffic on my linux router - any tips on suitable software? :)
[16:39] <Rohan_m> JNixx: cant give my ISP does not support it
[16:39] <viliny> tried etherape but its a mess
[16:39] <MonkeyDust> MindSupernova  i have 4.3 on 12.04.4
[16:39] <JNixx> Rohan_m: that's wrong. goto /etc/resolv.conf and set nameserver "8.8.8.8"
[16:40] <JNixx> viliny: Well that's good i guess :)
[16:40] <viliny> yeah but i knew this already :)
[16:40] <OerHeks> MindSupernova, you might want to try :  sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[16:40] <JNixx> Rohan_m: I mean /etc/resolvconf/resolv.conf
[16:40] <OerHeks> MindSupernova, dist-upgrade might trigger the update
[16:41] <Rohan_m> JNixx: in my ubuntu 14.04 there is no directory resolvconf how ever /etc/resolv.conf is there
[16:41] <Rohan_m> JNixx: ok there is directory wait
[16:42] <MindSupernova> OerHeks, nope. I can't find partner repo kostkon
[16:43] <JNixx> viliny: Sorry i'm not sure. Id setup an IDS system on an own box to monitor the network. An  easy one to use is Sophos UTM. I use it at home.
[16:43] <JNixx> viliny: But i'd say you're clean.
[16:43] <MindSupernova> kostkon, is it canonical partners?
[16:46] <MindSupernova> I tried canonical partners but that didn't work
[16:46] <MonkeyDust> MindSupernova  you first have to apt-get update, after you activated it
[16:47] <MindSupernova> MonkeyDust, how do I uninstall it?
[16:47] <bialykot> hi ppl
[16:47] <kostkon> MindSupernova, ?
[16:48] <MonkeyDust> MindSupernova  uninstall what?
[16:48] <MindSupernova> uninstall skype so I can install the new 4.3
[16:48] <MonkeyDust> MindSupernova  simply upgrade, no need to uninstall
[16:48] <expunge> binaryhat: heya
[16:48] <MindSupernova> I downloaded the new one from the skype website but installing it didn't do a thing. should I reboot?
[16:49] <kostkon> MindSupernova, just simply check for updates in the update manager
[16:49] <kostkon> MindSupernova, click on the button
[16:49] <viliny> JNixx: im using tcpdump to log all traffic outwards to ssh and seeing no traffic
[16:49] <expunge> MindSupernova: use the package manager
[16:49] <MindSupernova> there nothing but a suggestiong to upgrade to 14.04
[16:49] <Scriptonaut> guys, so I have a hdd that is around 300GB. It says that there isn't really much data on it, but I'm fairly sure there is, because I never formatted it, it was running windows and became corrupted or something. How would I attempt to recover it?
[16:49] <viliny> if i initiate a remote ssh to my shell provider i can see that but nothings else
[16:49] <JNixx> viliny: I think your ISP has made a mistake then. Either that or they have to provide details.
[16:49] <viliny> scripto, slam it in a computer and run a live linux on that machine
[16:49] <MonkeyDust> Scriptonaut  are you in ubuntu now?
[16:49] <expunge> Scriptonaut: what says?
[16:50] <Scriptonaut> I'm in ubuntu
[16:50] <Scriptonaut> I have the drive hooked up
[16:50] <Scriptonaut> oh sorry, gparted
[16:50] <viliny> can't access the file system Scriptonaut ?
[16:50] <MonkeyDust> Scriptonaut  what's the output of   df -h|pastebinit
[16:50] <kostkon> MindSupernova, click on "Check" again
[16:50] <Scriptonaut> http://pastebin.com/mGfRGMs8
[16:51] <Scriptonaut> the partition with all the data should be sdb3
[16:51] <kostkon> MindSupernova, assuming you have indeed enabled the Canonical Partner repo
[16:51] <Scriptonaut> viliny, ya. The drive was never formatted, but it says that it's basically empty
[16:51] <viliny> JNixx: im getting brute forced from china
[16:51] <MindSupernova> kostkon, there's nothing man
[16:51] <JNixx> viliny: who isn't :P Get off port 22 and it will stop. It's just bots
[16:52] <zeroquake> hey any tutorials giving simple top down view of how stuff works in ubuntu?
[16:52] <viliny> this ill block china
[16:52] <expunge> zeroquake: stuff?
[16:52] <Pici> viliny: consider installing and running fail2ban or similar.
[16:52] <MindSupernova> kostkon, in ubuntu software center there's a box suggestiong skype:i386 must be removed before installing skype 4.3
[16:52] <viliny> think i'll, but do you think the isp has trouble differentiating attacks and me attacking?
[16:52] <MonkeyDust> !manual | zeroquake start here
[16:52] <zeroquake> i nevah used linux , planning to learn it .
[16:52] <MindSupernova> kostkon, should I select install anyway?
[16:52] <Scriptonaut> so does anyone know of a way to recover ntsf?
[16:52] <zeroquake> yup , will start with that.
[16:53] <Scriptonaut> there is a windows recovery drive
[16:53] <Scriptonaut> that is 8.61GB filled (out of 9.43GB)]\
[16:53] <MonkeyDust> zeroquake  learn ubuntu like you learned windows or mac: by using it and getting familiar with it
[16:53] <JNixx> viliny: The ISP will know the difference.
[16:53] <viliny> Pici: what is fail2ban?
[16:53] <viliny> JNixx: but these people were seriously... lost
[16:53] <kostkon> MindSupernova, that's when you try to install the .deb from skype.com?
[16:53] <MindSupernova> kostkon, yeah
[16:53] <JNixx> viliny: Their support desk i guess. But it would be strange for an ISP to cut off a customer because they are getting normal bot traffic from China.
[16:54] <expunge> MindSupernova: that would be the wrong way
[16:54] <zeroquake> yes . the reason i gave up on it last time was if i come across some error or something , i had to google , coudnt understand most of the answers , will give it another try now.
[16:54] <Pici> viliny: A tool that uses iptables or hostsdeny to ban addresses that make numerous failed authentication requests to ssh and similar services.
[16:54] <Pici> viliny: its pretty much a must-have on any web-facing install I do.
[16:54] <viliny> Pici: ah thanks, does it require a lot of time?
[16:54] <MindSupernova> expunge, I tried sudo apt-get remove skype but it suggests to use auto-remove and there's a lot of packages wanting to be removed
[16:55] <MindSupernova> about 500 mb
[16:55] <Pici> viliny: It starts working as soon as you install the package, the defaults are very sane.
[16:55] <viliny> anyone familiar with webmin for linux firewalling? i want to wildcard the s#¤% out of chinas ip range...
[16:55] <JNixx> viliny: apt-get install fail2ban that's it. Standard is 6 attemps before ban
[16:55] <expunge> MindSupernova: you don't need to remove it
[16:55] <expunge> MindSupernova: just install the newer version _from your package manager, not skype.com_
[16:56] <viliny> thanks guys
[16:56] <kostkon> MindSupernova, you could try giving the following command:   apt-cache policy skype*      then pasting the output on http://paste.ubuntu.com/
[16:57] <viliny> they told me the attacks are every hour 10 to the hour... this attack i just got that was directed AT me fits the description... i mean these people couldn't find their ass with a map so im wondering if they could have failed to see the difference between inbound and outbound :/
[16:57] <viliny> can you check fail2ban logs or results or banlist somewhere?
[16:57] <MindSupernova> kostkon, http://paste.ubuntu.com/8018666/
[16:58] <JNixx> viliny: It's in /var/log/auth.log and fail2ban.log (or something like that.)
[16:58] <MindSupernova> expunge, http://paste.ubuntu.com/8018666/
[16:59] <viliny> my auth.log is absolutely FILLED with snort saying i have bad traffic on ipv6
[16:59] <JNixx> viliny: Are you on IPv6? Fail2ban doesn't support it yet'
[16:59] <JNixx> viliny: use SSHGuard
[17:00] <viliny> any easy way to just disable ipv6 altogether?
[17:00] <kostkon> MindSupernova, apt-cache policy skype:i386  ?
[17:01] <MindSupernova> kostkon, http://paste.ubuntu.com/8018692/
[17:01] <MindSupernova> expunge, ^
[17:01] <expunge> viliny: if you're using network-manager, yeah
[17:02] <viliny> hey my server is sending out 22 traffic to the ministry of defense in london
[17:02] <JNixx> viliny: That's not good
[17:03] <JNixx> viliny: Unplug it
[17:03] <JNixx> viliny: time to reformat the system
[17:03] <kostkon> MindSupernova, it says 4.3 even if it is the 32bit version
[17:04] <dft> heh what happened to raring under http://ca.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/
[17:04] <dft> all the raring directories are gone?
[17:04] <DJones> !Eol | dft
[17:05] <dft> ubottu: poo
[17:05] <DJones> dft: It became end of life in January, the repo's will have been removed
[17:05] <xyNNN> anyone xp with the dell xps 13 notebook?
[17:05] <dft> DJones: ok ty
[17:06] <OerHeks> xyNNN, XP ? not supported here and EOL
[17:06] <DJones> !eolupgrade | dft This may be useful info,
[17:06] <xyNNN> Experience .... oh my god.. not windows xp
[17:09] <MindSupernova> kostkon, http://imgur.com/lxrlAWo,p1seqSw,AWIjpEp
[17:10] <syntroPi> how come the update server for germany delivers packets which arent trustworthy(cant be verified by apt) but the main server delivers those updates without any problems?
[17:11] <kostkon> MindSupernova, what happens when you try to remove it,   sudo apt-get remove skype
[17:11] <syntroPi> malicious packets in question include libavcodec54 libavformat54 libavdevice53 libavresample1 libswscale2 libavfilter3 libav-tools
[17:12] <OerHeks> syntroPi, good question, ask this in #ubuntu-de too.
[17:12] <MeXTuX> I have been having some issues when burning 25 GB blu-ray discs. The error is http://paste.ubuntu.com/8018745/ the UDF image was created using truncate command. Some pages recommend using dvd+rw-format or growisofs -use-the-force-luke=spare:none option. Any ideas?
[17:13] <MindSupernova> kostkon, http://paste.ubuntu.com/8018810/ && http://imgur.com/Q6xyBsL
[17:14] <MindSupernova> I just did a check and still nothing
[17:15] <OerHeks> MindSupernova, ah, you are set to LTS releases, change your updates back
[17:15] <kostkon> MindSupernova, ok, I'll rephrase. What happens when you try to remove  sudo apt-get remove skype:i386
[17:18] <MindSupernova> ah you guys are fucking awesome.
[17:18] <MindSupernova> kostkon, skype:i386 will be removed
[17:19] <IdleOne> No swearing please
[17:19] <MindSupernova> woops
[17:19] <kostkon> MindSupernova, do it, then sudo apt-get install skype and THEN  open your file manager, press CTRL+H or View -> Show Hidden Files from the menu and delete the folder .Skype
[17:20] <waldemar> Hey there, i have a problem with Unison, can i ask for help in this channel?
[17:21] <expunge> waldemar: problem with unison on ubuntu? =P
[17:21] <waldemar> Yes :)
[17:21] <expunge> this is a good spot, then
[17:21] <waldemar> both server and client
[17:22] <waldemar> Ok, i have set up a sync pair with an ssh server on an ubuntu 12.04 server 32 bit and an ubuntu 12.04 desktop 32 bit
[17:23] <waldemar> at first everything worked, but after a few month i recognized, that when i create a new folder on the client and create or paste data in it, sometimes unison does not recognize it and does not synchronize it
[17:23] <waldemar> i have no idea what to do about it
[17:23] <loa> hello, ubuntu people.
[17:24] <loa> maybe it will be offtopic but i wonder maybe someone knows games like FTL?
[17:24] <loa> such atmosphere for example.
[17:24] <expunge> loa: someone probably does
[17:24] <expunge> ah
[17:24] <waldemar> expunge: oh sorry, shoud i write your name befor my messages, so you see it highlighted?
[17:25] <Pici> loa: such as rougelikes: nethack? dungeon crawl stone soup?
[17:25] <zerothis> cap issue solved, I have Linux I can do anything. Including bypassing my ISP cap
[17:25] <laini> i have backbox
[17:25] <MonkeyDust> zerothis  how did you do it?
[17:25] <expunge> loa: why not just play FTL
[17:26] <MindSupernova> I have to add everyone back into my contact list?
[17:26] <loa> export, want something new)
[17:26] <expunge> loa: oh =)
[17:26] <expunge> loa: ever played MegaTraveller?
[17:26] <MonkeyDust> MindSupernova  no, they are on the skype servers
[17:27] <MindSupernova> how do I retrieve it?
[17:27] <MonkeyDust> MindSupernova  by logging in
[17:27] <MindSupernova> no its empty
[17:27] <expunge> loa: http://www.abandonia.com/en/games/660/MegaTraveller+1+-+The+Zhodani+Conspiracy.html
[17:28] <zerothis> ping still works, I ping the addresses of the blocked sites and get the IP address back. then browse to the ip addr
[17:28] <MonkeyDust> MindSupernova  maybe no one is online and your offline buddies are hidden
[17:29] <zerothis> also, the links browser works out-of-the-box.
[17:29] <expunge> loa: Planet's Edge is a little like that, too
[17:30] <zerothis> we'll I'm off to tell Linux to count to infinity, twice, once backwards
[17:30] <loa> expunge, you are oldschool)
[17:30]  * zerothis afk
[17:30] <chriys> hey guys when I set AllowOverride All in Apache 2.4 I get Internal Server Error on the browser
[17:30] <waldemar> hm should i repeat my question, i thnk most people don't see it anymore?
[17:30] <MindSupernova> MonkeyDust, ah-ha! you were right. I just had to wait and contacts now appeared. Thanks to everybody you guys are wonderful.
[17:30] <pitwalker> Greetings to everyone. I have text disappearing problem on a fresh 14.04.1 install. The problem first appeared in the graphical install keyboard layout selecting screen. In synaptic (ubnutu/lxde) the categories and the listed packages hiding during a mouseover. Any idea?
[17:30] <expunge> waldemar: perfectly fine
[17:30] <expunge> chriys: #httpd
[17:31] <chriys> thx
[17:31] <expunge> loa: maybe, but FTL is clearly a throwback to older schools
[17:31] <Beldar> waldemar, Every 10 min is asked for as a wait time for reposting.
[17:32] <waldemar> i have set up a Unison sync pair with an ssh server on an ubuntu 12.04 server 32 bit and an ubuntu 12.04 desktop 32 bit. At first everything worked, but after a few month i recognized, that when i create a new folder on the client and create or paste data in it, sometimes unison does not recognize it and does not synchronize it
[17:32] <expunge> waldemar: well then, if it doesn't give you an error message, I'd suggest using better software =)
[17:33] <waldemar> expunge: you mean an alternative for rsync or for unison as client
[17:33] <expunge> rsync is fine, unison I wouldn't vouch for
[17:34] <waldemar> expunge: do you know a trusty alternative for unison?
[17:34] <expunge> maybe lsyncd
[17:34] <expunge> I think I'd just use rsync/rdiff-backup and a cron
[17:35] <waldemar> expunge: A frontend which shows the changes as a list is important
[17:35] <expunge> it is?
[17:36] <waldemar> yes, it is for my girlfriend and it is important for her
[17:36] <waldemar> so i gues it is a must have ;)
[17:37] <expunge> you want a list of the things you're backing up?
[17:38] <MonkeyDust> waldemar  not sure if it's useful,   watch -n 1 -d [command]             shows differences in realtime
[17:38] <MonkeyDust> differences/changes
[17:39] <joelmo> how chan I change the key placements of super and alt in software, I run linux on a macbook, the super and alt keys are in different positions when I plugin a pc keyboard, im aware of setxkbdmap -otion altwin:swap_alt_win but this changes the placement of the keys at both keyboards so they are still inconsistent
[17:39] <expunge> waldemar: with rdiff-backup/-fs, you could simply diff -qr two dirs
[17:39] <waldemar> it is to sync a relatively big directory with multiple subdirectories, to not lose the overview it is important that she can see it. Also she is a former windows user and she definitely needs a gui.
[17:40] <waldemar> With options like skip, ignore, etc.
[17:40] <expunge> the overview?
[17:40] <expunge> skip ignore?
[17:40] <expunge> why would you want to skip or ignore something...
[17:40] <MonkeyDust> waldemar  try grsync
[17:41] <MonkeyDust> waldemar  but if she wants something that look exactly like windows, she should use windows
[17:42] <waldemar> MonkeyDust: that's not the point, she just needs a gui, because she don't want to learn to write commands into the shell
[17:43] <expunge> a gui for what?
[17:43] <expunge> you trying to make backing up non-automated for some reason?...
[17:43] <joelmo> what are you looking for waldemar
[17:43] <expunge> that's less reliable
[17:43] <waldemar> joelmo: i have a problem with unison, it sometimes does not recognize new folders
[17:44] <MonkeyDust> waldemar  explain that the shell is more reliable, faster and more versatile than any gui
[17:44] <joelmo> hm i dont know unison so well, I use dejadup which have worked for me
[17:44] <waldemar> MonkeyDust: She really is not that good with computers
[17:45] <joelmo> dejadup have a gui too
[17:46] <dino82> Make a fakeui with buttons on a php page that run shell scripts ?
[17:47] <expunge> waldemar: a person who isn't good with computers should not be manually running backups
[17:47] <expunge> automate it, and forget it
[17:48] <joelmo> automatic backups are probably useful no matter if you are good with computers anyway
[17:50] <dino82> Uh yarrak dont msg random people youtube links thanks
[17:52] <zerothis> MonkeyDust: save time bypassing cap with:  ping -c 1 google.com | grep -o '[0-9]\{1,3\}\.[0-9]\{1,3\}\.[0-9]\{1,3\}\.[0-9]\{1,3\}' | google-chrome
[17:53] <waldemar> expunge, joelmo: Ok, to explain the whole story: She has to work on the same data, at home on her own Computer and at Work on her office Computer. It is a very small Office from the university and they are all social scientists, so no people who understand any more then where the power button of the computer is. To work on her data, she carries arround a USB hard drive. She fears, to lose it, so she wants to backup it on the server.
[17:54] <expunge> right, that's an ordinary person who needs a backup _system_
[17:54] <expunge> set up a backup _system_ and forget about it
[17:55] <MonkeyDust> zerothis  sure you're addressing the right person?
[17:55] <expunge> copy at work, copy at home, and for extra redundancy, one more copy elsewhere (on a network, don't waste time with a usb stick)
[17:57] <joelmo> waldemar, deja-dup can backup to any ssh, ftp, or s3 store, I just put my backups on a thumbdrive
[17:57] <expunge> that's such a cumbersome approach
[17:57] <expunge> that is what people without good backup systems do
[17:58] <expunge> a good backup system requires no human intervention
[17:58] <OerHeks> expunge, who tests the backup, the computer?
[17:59] <samuraiRM> hi
[17:59] <expunge> tests it for what?
[17:59] <expunge> samuraiRM: hi
[17:59] <samuraiRM>  /join xubuntu
[17:59] <renebarbosa> backups without testes are so secure as not having backups
[17:59] <renebarbosa> without tests*
[17:59] <samuraiRM> channel xubuntu?
[17:59] <expunge> renebarbosa: that's quite a silly thing you just said
[18:00] <OerHeks>  /join #xubuntu
[18:00] <expunge> samuraiRM: /msg alis list *xubuntu*
[18:00] <renebarbosa> no it's not :)
[18:00] <expunge> it is, you just said backups are as secure as not having backups
[18:00] <expunge> which is patently false
[18:00] <renebarbosa> expunge, no
[18:00] <expunge> yup
[18:00] <renebarbosa> not tested backups are so secure as not having them
[18:00] <renebarbosa> it's a fact
[18:00] <renebarbosa> if you don't test them
[18:00] <expunge> doesn't matter how you qualify it, that's what you said
[18:01] <renebarbosa> what you will do when you need it and they .. err.. don't work?
[18:01] <samuraiRM>  /msg alis list *xubuntu*
[18:01] <OerHeks> i reacted on " requires no human intervention"
[18:01] <renebarbosa> sit and cry? :P
[18:01] <samuraiRM> thanks
[18:01] <expunge> renebarbosa: define test please
[18:01] <samuraiRM> where is the cahannel
[18:01] <Beldar> renebarbosa, Can you lay off the enter key and stick with actual support.
[18:01] <samuraiRM> for xubuntu?
[18:01] <expunge> samuraiRM: that command will tell you
[18:01] <Pici> samuraiRM: its called #xubuntu
[18:01] <Pici> oddly enough
[18:01] <red_> how to open webpage in terminal ??
[18:02] <expunge> red_: xdg-open URI, or name_of_browser_executable URI
[18:02] <Pici> red_: w3m comes with Ubuntu Server.
[18:02] <MonkeyDust> red_  lunx and links2 are terminal browsers
[18:02] <Beldar> red_, ^^
[18:02] <red_> thanks guys!!
[18:02] <MonkeyDust> red_  lynx and links2 are terminal browsers
[18:03] <Bluewolf> How's do I make a USB drive an OS install Drive?
[18:03]  * OerHeks loves W3M with utf support
[18:03] <expunge> Bluewolf: from Ubuntu?
[18:04] <OerHeks> Bluewolf, one usb with the iso, and select 2nd usb as destination to install
[18:04] <expunge> Bluewolf: you can use an app like unetbootin
[18:04] <expunge> Bluewolf: or if you're careful, dd
[18:04] <OerHeks> unetbootin will make a live iso, not install
[18:05] <Bluewolf> expunge, Yes, Ubuntu 14.04. What program would I use to make a live .iso off the USB Flash?
[18:05] <jon-work> seems the 12.04->14.04.1 LTS upgrade finally works. no announcement email was sent, though
[18:05] <OerHeks> !spam | yarrak please don'tspam in Dm, thanks
[18:05] <Beldar> Bluewolf, Are you trying to make a install usb of an installed ubuntu?
[18:05] <expunge> Bluewolf: I just said
[18:06] <dino82> Yeah can the OP get rid of yarrak please
[18:06] <Bluewolf> Beldar, No, I want to burn a .iso to my flash so I can reinstall off my USB?
[18:06] <Beldar> report the spam to the mods as evidence
[18:07] <artsy> Pici: a bit too narrow banmask possibly. D:
[18:07] <Pici> artsy: we'll see.
[18:07] <morkeleb> Help! I just added a repository with this line: "add-apt-repository ppa:happy-neko/ps3mediaserver" - now I need to remove and purge it. How?
[18:08] <tsar> Greetings. I've installed tracker and I want to use its search tool, but looks like it hasn't indexed anything. How can I make tracker index my files? They are already included in its settings.
[18:08] <OerHeks> Bluewolf, just use unetbootin to make a live bootable usb
[18:08] <Beldar> Bluewolf, No installed OS to do this with or another computer?
[18:09] <Beldar> Bluewolf, If you have a linux with grub there you can boot the iso with grub.
[18:12] <paullus> hi, does anyone know how to change the login screen of Ubuntu 14.04 to look like the one in 12.04?
[18:13] <paullus> also, how can I display the distro name and version number on my wallpaper?
[18:13] <Myrtti> hm
[18:14] <Bluewolf> OerHeks - There was a program I used before which I did not need to install, unetbootin needs to be installed through Software Center?
[18:14] <OerHeks> Bluewolf, oh, if you run ubuntu now, why not the standard usb-creator ?
[18:14] <staxxx> Hello everyone. Under pulseaudio, I can only see "Dummy output" and "No cards available for configuration". The sound level bars are moving for the dummy output, but there is no sound output... any help please?
 sudo aplay -l returns a: no soundcards found
[18:15] <OerHeks> else yes,unetbootin is in softwarecenter
[18:15] <Bluewolf> OerHeks, Yes that's it, is it okay to use that?
[18:15] <OerHeks> Bluewolf, sure, works fine here.
[18:18] <Bluewolf> OerHeks: That's strange, I have an 8GB USB and its telling me "There is not enough space for this image." The image in question is a 1.2GB .iso?
[18:18] <OerHeks> Bluewolf, format the usb first
[18:18] <OerHeks> fat32
[18:19] <Bluewolf> OerHeks: Oh okay I formated it to NTFS, Long or slow format?
[18:19] <expunge> Bluewolf: unetbootin is?
[18:19] <Bluewolf> expunge, Is?
[18:19] <expunge> Bluewolf: you said 'it', did you mean unetbootin?
[18:20] <expunge> Bluewolf: is it that hard of a question? =)
[18:20] <Bluewolf> expunge, You nearly lost me, with it I meant - standard usb-creator
[18:21] <dino82> I imagine shuffling through page after page of notes and scribblings
[18:21] <expunge> Bluewolf: use unetbootin, it works
[18:23] <Beldar> Bluewolf, The ubuntu startup disc creator only works on ubunti iso's
[18:23] <Bluewolf> expunge, OerHeks: There seems to be a debate between - unetbootin and the standard usb-creator, what's the difference between the two and does it matter which I use - The .iso is debian?
[18:24] <expunge> Bluewolf: ATM I'd say the difference is unetbootin would complain less and work more
[18:24] <OerHeks> well, you didn't mention debian iso, verry funny
[18:24] <expunge> but if either does the job, either is fine
[18:25] <picca> hello, I am the DD in charge of the tango package, I would like an update of this package in 14.04. what is the procedure to follow
[18:26] <expunge> picca: the DD?
[18:26] <Pici> picca: Take a look at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/StableReleaseUpdates and #ubuntu-motu
[18:27] <picca> Pici: thanks
[18:28] <chriys> hey is it possible to create an image of my server to install on another server ?
[18:28] <expunge> chriys: yup
[18:28] <expunge> chriys: but it's simpler to just duplicate the partition table, copy the data, and install grub
[18:28] <chriys> basically I want to have all the settings I have on my new vps to the old one
[18:29] <chriys> oh ok how to do that ?
[18:29] <Bluewolf> OerHeks, Sorry my mistake, but I am still trying to do it in Ubuntu 14.04. I formated the USB and its allowing me to continue so do I or does the standard usb-creator not work with other OS's?
[18:30] <Bashing-om> chriys: Check out -> apt-cache show aptoncd <-. see if that suits your needs .
[18:30]  * expunge headdesks
[18:30] <expunge> chriys: you can backup and restore a partition table with sfdisk, or sgdisk
[18:30] <expunge> chriys: you can install grub with grub-install
[18:30] <expunge> chriys: you can copy data reliably with rsync -ap /mnt/original/ /mnt/new/
[18:30] <chriys> expunge: ok but what's easier and how to do that
[18:30] <expunge> what's easier?
[18:31] <chriys> yeah
[18:31] <MonkeyDust> chriys  how much easier do you want it?
[18:31] <chriys> the most possible
[18:32] <MonkeyDust> chriys  it doesnt get much easier than 10 character commands
[18:32] <Beldar> Bluewolf, There are handfuls of usb loaders it is not rocket science, the info you need is all over the web, there is a debian channel. Is the so far outside your ability to just figure out?
[18:32] <absk007_> It's been more than 6 days since running my minilaptop ASUS 1215B continuously with Lubuntu OS.
[18:32] <chriys> MonkeyDust: lets go then what should I do
[18:32] <Beldar> this*
[18:33] <MonkeyDust> chriys  follow expunge 's suggestions
[18:33] <Beldar> absk007, This is support.
[18:34] <dman129> hi guys ... i installed apache 2 and tried to access it from a external ip ... well all i can see is a white page for whatever i type in ... from the inside of my home network i can see the everything ...  for example   test.no-ip.org/index.html   stays white without text from outside but works from inside
[18:34] <dman129> can u help me here pls
[18:34] <Bluewolf> Beldar: No it's not far out of my ability to figure out, but I have done that in the past an mad a big error. So do forgive me if I would rather be careful.....
[18:34] <absk007> Beldar, then I wanna know If i should run it like so?
[18:35] <Beldar> absk007, Can you be clearer please?
[18:35] <chriys> expunge: do you have a link or something cause I didnt understand very you suggestion
[18:35] <absk007> Beldar, should i run the laptop continuously for so long?
[18:36] <absk007> is it harmful for both me & my laptop?
[18:36] <Beldar> absk007, Unless it's overheating many do.
[18:36] <expunge> chriys: no... I should do a writeup, meh
[18:37] <absk007> Beldar, My Core temp. rises to whopping 90 degrees while browsing. And now it's 67 degrees Celsius.
[18:37] <Beldar> absk007, I never turn mine off, I just use suspend when not using.
[18:37] <OerHeks> absk007, depends on the cpu, 90' can be good or bad
[18:37] <Beldar> absk007, clean it with a air can and get a cooling pad to start with.
[18:37] <absk007> Beldar, but while I'm not using, i download something from internet. So my laptop is always on
[18:38] <absk007> OerHeks, it's a atom like cpu. AMD C50
[18:38] <Beldar> absk007, Your worst enemy is overheating.
[18:39] <absk007> Beldar, the bottom seems heated up. But the exhaust is at the side.
[18:39] <expunge> kind of like hard drive failure, really; if it fails, you have to replace it, and if it doesn't, you don't
[18:39] <expunge> no point worry about it
[18:39] <expunge> worrying =P
[18:39] <absk007> expunge, my 320GB HDD already failed
[18:39] <expunge> absk007: then you have to replace it =)
[18:39] <absk007> running using thumb drv. 7.42 GB
[18:40] <ssarah> hei, what's the package name for free file sync? or why isnt it part of the default repository and what's the alternative?
[18:40] <expunge> ubuntu1 ?
[18:41] <ssarah> uh?
[18:41] <expunge> uh?
[18:41] <Beldar> ssarah, The alternative was a text install now since 12.04 called the mini a tiny net installer.
[18:41] <expunge> ...
[18:43] <ssarah> by alternative i mean the software that's in the repositories by default that is like free file sync
[18:43] <ssarah> like uniso, but that didnt seem to work right
[18:43] <ssarah> *unison
[18:43] <OerHeks> !info rsync
[18:43] <Beldar> ssarah, helps if you just give your end goals, there are many apps that do similar things.
[18:44] <expunge> ssarah: oh are you whosit's girlfriend?
[18:44] <expunge> ssarah: waldemar's?
[18:44] <ssarah> read my name backwards and stop doing it.
[18:44] <Beldar> bad to be asking that
[18:44] <Artemis3> ignore no support questions
[18:44] <ssarah> just sync a folder across a secure LAN
[18:45] <Beldar> expunge, You are the one who was all over me for outing a user, lol.
[18:45] <expunge> ssarah: over and over, or once?
[18:45] <expunge> Beldar: hrmm?
[18:45] <ssarah> from user:192.168.1.n:/home/user/ to user:192.168.1.m:/home/user/ to
[18:46] <expunge> ssarah: you can use scp -r for a one-off
[18:46] <ssarah> nevermind, i changed my mind, expunge, please continue, it reminds me of the irc golden days
[18:46] <ssarah> nein, it should be a daily thing
[18:46] <expunge> ssarah: I'd probably mount the remote/s with sshfs and use rsync -a
[18:46] <fission6> not sure if this is the right channel but I was running a screen session which has a uwsgi process and i went to look at it after several weeks and it looks like this now http://i.imgur.com/lOhhN0h.png
[18:46] <ssarah> yeh, a cron job with rsync sounded like an option
[18:46] <expunge> the irc golden days when someone came in and mentioned his girlfriend's unison was broken, and then someone with a female-looking name came in and asked about unison?
[18:46] <expunge> ssarah: a good option
[18:47] <ssarah> yeh, but such a hassle to remember those things
[18:47] <expunge> fission6: type 'reset' and hit enter
[18:47] <ssarah> info me, expunge, im XX
[18:47] <expunge> you're XX?
[18:47] <ssarah> wait wait, that's wrong im XY
[18:47] <Artemis3> -_-
[18:47] <ssarah> manly man
[18:47] <expunge> ah
[18:47] <fission6> expunge: amazine
[18:48] <expunge> I really don't care...
[18:48] <fission6> what was my issue?
[18:48] <ssarah> ah ok
[18:48] <expunge> fission6: your shell probably caught some output that wasn't meant for it
[18:48] <expunge> fission6: and confused it properly
[18:48] <fission6> weird
[18:48] <expunge> yeah, happens
[18:48] <fission6> so weird
[18:48] <fission6> thank you!
[18:48] <expunge> np
[18:49] <ssarah> im reading about rsync
[18:49] <ssarah> such a hassle...
[18:49] <expunge> ssarah: rsync -a one/ two/
[18:49] <expunge> all there is to it
[18:49] <expunge> not to be confused with rsync -a one two/
[18:49]  * Beldar rolls their eyes on a "probably" answer taken as a actual answer.
[18:50] <expunge> and what is the difference between an answer and an actual answer, I wonder
[18:50] <preyalone> Why doesn't apticron ever email me?
[18:50] <expunge> and when did you become a plurality? =P too much popcorn?
[18:50] <expunge> preyalone: I'd use && and an email sending app for that
[18:51] <ssarah> expunge, ok, but i need the remote user on that, rsync -a /home/user/ user:192.168.1.2/home/user/backup
[18:51] <ssarah> as so?
[18:51] <expunge> cron's job is ideally... cronning
[18:51] <expunge> ssarah: you can use rsync via ssh, but again, I'd just use sshfs, it simplifies things a lot
[18:52] <ssarah> ok, so, make script with: mount sshfs then rsync and put that on cron?
[18:52] <expunge> yeah why not
[18:52] <ssarah> sounds good
[18:52] <ssarah> but i like to be a script kiddie. unison sounded good, but didnt work, oh well.
[18:54] <expunge> unison sounds very high level to me
[18:54] <expunge> more to go wrong, less to know about why
[18:55] <andymcnab4> .xchat2/budus.so
[18:55] <ssarah> but on the other hand, all that nice research the guy that made it did, is not gona be used
[18:59] <BITSY> .
[18:59] <quantibility> .
[19:01] <andymcnab4> correre per vivere meglio
[19:03] <andymcnab4> licantropo
[19:03] <Pici> !it | andymcnab4
[19:05] <absk007> How to choose keyboard shortcuts for Openbox?
[19:07] <AnnaH> anna
[19:08] <AnnaH> by
[19:08] <AnnaH> good by
[19:17] <fission6> will this create a temporary swap https://github.com/pydata/pandas/issues/1880#issuecomment-9920484
[19:18] <Base64-> Hey, is it possible to create a vpn connection pre login screen, then do a ldap auth over that?
[19:18] <Pici> fission6: looks fine to me.
[19:18] <Base64-> I cant see why not, but wanted to check
[19:19] <fission6> how do i stop using it and clean it up after I complile something Pici
[19:19] <pbx> anyone know a command accessible via gnome-do for fast user switching?
[19:19] <quantibility> try bash
[19:19] <quantibility> #bash
[19:20] <Beldar> !who | quantibility
[19:20] <quantibility> pbx
[19:20] <quantibility> there
[19:20] <quantibility> sheesh
[19:20] <Pici> fission6: take a look at the swapoff command.
[19:20] <fission6> thanks
[19:20] <Pici> quantibility: what does that have to do with bash?
[19:21] <Beldar> quantibility, Just asking you to make sense, and lay off the enter.
[19:23] <ciscoftw> having problem enabling swap on my system... top shows now swap, but fstab says to mount it ...also cant start it via 'swapon /dev/mapper/...' ...i'm using an encypted filesystem too
[19:24] <LostNva> ubottu: how do you do the !tab to enter name, easy things elude me.
[19:24] <rww> LostNva: I just typed Lo and pressed the tab key on my keyboard
[19:26] <LostNva> rww, ok got it
[19:26] <jhattara> ubuntu 14.04 with logitech USB headset (ubuntu says it's Permium Stereo USB Headset 350) has audio channels reversed (right plays left, left plays right) any ideas how to fix this ?
[19:27] <jhutchins> jhattara: rewire?
[19:29] <deftones43> anyone here that can answer a Ubuntu install question?
[19:29] <absk007> which is lightweight Geany or Bluefish? I need a lightweight programming text editor.
[19:30] <jhutchins> deftones43: We won't know until you ask it.
[19:30] <jhutchins> absk007: vi
[19:30] <absk007> jhutchins, GUI based
[19:30] <bekks> absk007: gvim
[19:31] <absk007> bekks, anything unrelated to vi
[19:31] <bekks> absk007: kate
[19:31] <jhutchins> AFIK the only programming language that even cares about fonts is APL.
[19:31] <deftones43> ok, I have ab acer 5520 laptop, my dvd drive seems to not be reading dvd's, only cd's. I can't seem to get the usb install method to work either. Is there a minimal installer I can put on a cd to install ubuntu, or i heard there was a net installer. would either one of these methods be possible?
[19:31] <absk007> bekks, Kate would require me to download more libs.
[19:32] <absk007> bekks, i'm limited space
[19:32] <absk007> ^i've
[19:32] <bekks> absk007: Thats a requirement for almost every graphical editor.
[19:32] <Base64-> Any thoughts on whether ubuntu gui login page connected to ldap would work over a certificate based vpn connection during boot?
[19:32] <MonkeyDust> !mini | deftones43 is this useful
[19:32] <Pici> absk007: mousepad perhaps?
[19:34] <MonkeyDust> absk007  leafpad is light and fast
[19:34] <deftones43> thanks ubottu. I was having trouble navigating the site to locate that. I'm currently using (gag) windows xp on this thing. lol
[19:34] <absk007> MonkeyDust, it's not a programming editor
[19:34] <jhutchins> Base64-: No reason it wouldn't.
[19:35] <Ilyas> test
[19:35] <MonkeyDust> absk007  there's a new versatile editor, read it on omgubuntu or so, moment...
[19:35] <absk007> Pici, it's not a programming editor
[19:35] <jhutchins> absk007: you have mutually exclusive conditions.
[19:35] <Pici> absk007: I personally haven't used it. I was just thinking of lightweight editors.  I use vim myself.
[19:35] <Base64-> Jhutchins: thanks, can you think of any way to intergrate the login credentials provided to the login gui to build the vpn during login,
[19:36] <Base64-> Or better to do them seperately
[19:36] <bprompt> absk007:     what languages are you after with the editor?
[19:37] <jhutchins> Base64-: I'd do it seperately, it's simpler.  You could probably get a DM to call a VPN setup before the window manager, but it wouldn't be a standard setup.
[19:37] <absk007> bprompt, C, C++, Java, Javascript, Python, Ruby
[19:38] <bprompt> absk007:   hmm how much ram do you have?  ddr3?  ddr2?
[19:38] <Base64-> Jhutchins: thanks! Last question... In my vpn network, ill have some servers (web etc), what do you think is the best way to prevent someone who hasnt ldap authenticated from accessing them? Kerbrous maybe? Or some kind of vlan switch post login?
[19:43] <MonkeyDust> absk007  I understand you're a developer ... there's also #ubuntu-app-devel, i'm sure they can help better
[19:43] <absk007> bprompt, i've DDR3 2GB RAM
[19:44] <absk007> but a meagre 1GHz CPU
[19:44] <bprompt> absk007:     geany is very light.. .but Kate is superior IMO, bluefish is slow and lame
[19:45] <absk007> bprompt, Kate will need more libs coz i'm on lubuntu
[19:46] <bprompt> absk007:     well... are you on a 4gbs hdd?    with hdd space these days.. it not like you'll be running out of space anytime soon anyway
[19:46] <absk007> bprompt, installing geany. Lemme try both Bluefish & Geany. Lemme see which one starts quickly
[19:46] <absk007> bprompt, i'm on 7.42GB thumb drive.
[19:47] <absk007> my 320GB hdd crashed running Win7 Ult.
[19:47] <OerHeks> 7.42 GB is not much for "development"
[19:47] <bprompt> absk007:     bluefish is rather slow... geany fares better between the two
[19:48] <bprompt> heheh, agree there =)
[19:48] <absk007> OerHeks, i've WebStorm installed.
[19:49] <absk007> but due to it's slow startup, i need a faster alternative.
[19:50] <bprompt> sounds like you need a new SSD, even with 2gbs ram... an SSD would run spiffy and you can run something like Aptana Studio or Komodo Edit
[19:50] <absk007> ah! geany is fast
[19:50] <absk007> like leafpad
[19:50] <absk007> bprompt, 1st i need my 320GB primary HDD replaced.
[19:52] <bprompt> absk007:    http://www.barryvan.com.au/2009/01/geany-ide-tango-dark-colour-scheme/   <---
[19:53] <absk007> bprompt, any quick config. to make geany way much faster?
[19:53] <bprompt> absk007:    http://www.geany.org/Download/Extras   <-- a few other themes there too... I use the dark and the vibrant
[19:53] <quantibility> does anyone know the wounderful application JACK?
[19:53] <mikeg3> !autologin
[19:53] <EL3PHANTEN> Hi
[19:54] <Pici> quantibility: I know of it.  The folks in #ubuntustudio are probably more versed on troubleshooting it though.
[19:54] <bprompt> absk007:   not much really, you can get into Edit > preferences... is very configurable... but runs well optimized right out of the box
[19:54] <absk007> bprompt, i <3 monokai like themes.
[19:55] <EL3PHANTEN> I am trying to install ubuntu from usb, but I still want windows to be there. But on installation screen, I get no option to install together with windows. Help
[19:55] <Bashing-om> EL3PHANTEN: Partitioning ? UEFI ? MBR ? .
[19:56] <bprompt> absk007:   http://geanycolourscheme.xtreemhost.com/filetypes/  <--- you can make your own theme, for whatever filetype, if you wish
[19:56] <EL3PHANTEN> It was UEFI but I turned legacy support option on on BIOS
[19:56] <EL3PHANTEN> I have had Ubuntu installed on before
[19:57] <Bashing-om> EL3PHANTEN: Then we looking at ( MBR, bios) .. maybe then the 4 primary partition limit is in effect ?
[19:57] <EL3PHANTEN> But that time, my win8 wouldnt work.. Now I have one big partition with win7 on
[19:57] <EL3PHANTEN> okey
[19:58] <EL3PHANTEN> Is there any way to fix that?
[19:58] <relish> Hello. When I do an apt-get update, I get  Method http has died unexpectedly! Sub-process http received a segmentation fault.
[19:59] <relish> How do I debug this?
[19:59] <EL3PHANTEN> Bashing-om: is thera a way to fix that. I could mention that the win7 installation was made to day, so I am willing to format the whole thing and start over
[20:01] <EL3PHANTEN> anyone?
[20:01] <Bashing-om> EL3PHANTEN: Well, need to verify what you are working with partition wise, do you have 'buntu liveUSB handy ?/ installer should see Windows, and make the adjustements. Need to look to see why not.
[20:02] <bprompt> EL3PHANTEN:   usually... the way I've done it is... install ubuntu from the usb.... do a manual partitioning of the hdd, and pick the "/" partition and then make my "swap" partition, and just install, once booted into ubuntu... you can do an "update-grub" and that will include the win64 partition
[20:03] <EL3PHANTEN> bprompt: Do you also only see one large free space at partition screen?
[20:03] <EL3PHANTEN> even if windows is installed
[20:04] <pluma> I can't get my Liliput USB display working on my laptop (using Intel HD graphics). I'm using stock Ubuntu 14.04. I tried blacklisting udl (someone suggested that on AskUbuntu) and I was able to reboot and have only the usb screen enabled, but then the built-in screen wouldn't show up.
[20:04] <EL3PHANTEN> Bshing-om: I made the bootable usb from ubuntu.com. There was this software on the site. Then I downloaded torrent 14.04.1
[20:05] <bprompt> EL3PHANTEN:   nope, it shows the win64 partition too... as ntfs and that there's used space, but as Bashing-om suggested.. is better to verify what you have partitions wise... from a liveUSB  run ->   sudo parted -l  <-- to see what's there and if it's MBR or GPT
[20:05] <relish> I did an strace apt-get update, in case anyone cares here is the crash log: http://www.hpcforge.org/log.txt
[20:06] <EL3PHANTEN> bpompt, Okey you say I shall choose try ubuntu?
[20:06] <EL3PHANTEN> and do those commands
[20:08] <daskdt> Anyone here know a way to delete all facebook activity
[20:08] <bprompt> EL3PHANTEN:  yeap
[20:08] <daskdt> no scripts i find work :/
[20:08] <jhutchins> daskdt: Nope.
[20:08] <jhutchins> daskdt: Not designed to make that possible.
[20:09] <daskdt> it used to be
[20:09] <EL3PHANTEN> bprompt, Bashing-om: okey thank you, I will do. I will be right back when I'm there
[20:09] <relish> http://deletefacebook.com/
[20:09] <absk007> bprompt, how to choose theme. I've installed monokai.conf
[20:10] <daskdt> relish:  thanks, i was hoping to erase everything before
[20:10] <daskdt> using the delete
[20:10] <bprompt> absk007:      what was in the monokai.conf?    did it have a colorschemes, filedefs folders?
[20:11] <daskdt> reboot brb
[20:11] <absk007> bprompt, nope. it's a file. Got from https://github.com/codebrainz/geany-themes
[20:12] <jjido> hello I am trying to start a VPN connection. Is this a good place to ask? vpnc stops on packet_1 with no response from target
[20:12] <daskdt> back
[20:12] <daskdt> So maddening that facebook makes it so hard to remove your content
[20:13] <relish> is there a safe way to reinstall apt
[20:14] <bprompt> absk007:     those may not work for your geany version.. notice the versioning on it
[20:15] <absk007> i've 1.x How to update to latest?
[20:15] <ciscoftw> i having a problem with swap.... my fs is enctyped too, does that in itself break swap?
[20:15] <absk007> bprompt, those themes are compatible
[20:16] <absk007> i've 1.23.1
[20:16] <EL3PHANTEN> bprompt, excuse me. Can you type the sudo command again. I am on usbLive now
[20:17] <bprompt> EL3PHANTEN:    sudo parted -l;
[20:17] <EL3PHANTEN> thank you
[20:18] <bprompt> absk007:     then.....  you can try giving it to ~/.config/geany    and maybe replace the geany.conf there with that
[20:18] <EL3PHANTEN> bprompt, Warning: /dev/sdb contains GPT signatures, indicating that it has a GPT table.
[20:18] <EL3PHANTEN> However, it does not have a valid fake msdos partition table, as it should.
[20:18] <EL3PHANTEN> Perhaps it was corrupted -- possibly by a program that doesn't understand GPT
[20:18] <EL3PHANTEN> partition tables.  Or perhaps you deleted the GPT table, and are now using an
[20:18] <EL3PHANTEN> msdos partition table.  Is this a GPT partition table?
[20:18] <EL3PHANTEN> yes/no_
[20:19] <bprompt> hmm.... that looks a bit odd.... sounds like a gpt hdd
[20:19] <EL3PHANTEN> Okey shall I just press yes and hope for the best _ >(
[20:20] <croepha> is there a log for this channel?
[20:21] <lotuspsychje> !log
[20:21] <EL3PHANTEN> I meant smiley. english layout
[20:21] <croepha> thanks
[20:22] <EL3PHANTEN> bprompt, Model: ATA ST1000LM014-SSHD (scsi)
[20:22] <EL3PHANTEN> Disk /dev/sdb: 1000GB
[20:22] <EL3PHANTEN> Sector size (logical/physical): 512B/4096B
[20:22] <EL3PHANTEN> Partition Table: gpt
[20:22] <koell> I just connected a 2nd external monitor to my thinkpad r52. sadly only 1 of them works at the same time. whats going on?
[20:22] <EL3PHANTEN> I typed yes
[20:22] <aliteralmind> Any idea what user postgres does not have permission to directory dbbackup?
[20:23] <aliteralmind> postgres@originaldjangster:/home/jeffy/django_files/django_test$ groups postgres
[20:23] <aliteralmind> postgres : postgres ssl-cert db
[20:23] <aliteralmind> postgres@originaldjangster:/home/jeffy/django_files/django_test$ ls -l
[20:23] <aliteralmind> drwxrwx--- 2 jeffy db    4096 Aug 11 16:11 dbbackup
[20:23] <aliteralmind> postgres@originaldjangster:/home/jeffy/django_files/django_test$ cd dbbackup/
[20:23] <aliteralmind> -su: cd: dbbackup/: Permission denied
[20:23] <aliteralmind> (Sorry, will dpaste that next time.)
[20:24] <pbx> any gnome-do users know how to increase the size of the font in the UI?
[20:24] <absk007> bprompt, got it working.
[20:27] <bprompt> absk007:     I use dark and vibrant ones.. as well as the default =)
[20:28] <Bashing-om> EL3PHANTEN: Might behoove us at this point to look at that hard drive with the GOT tools ..-> sudo apt-get install gdisk , sudo gdisk -l .dev.sda <- is what I think.
[20:28] <absk007> bprompt, i luv monokai in all programming text editors
[20:28] <Bashing-om> GOT/GPT*
[20:28] <EL3PHANTEN> Bashing-om, I will try that
[20:29] <Bashing-om> EL3PHANTEN: Typo again ! -> sudo gdisk -l /dev/sda <- .
[20:29] <EL3PHANTEN> Bashing-om,  okey ty
[20:29] <bprompt> absk007:    to be fair... dark or vibrant aren't a lot different from monokai's =)
[20:30] <Bashing-om> !pastbinit | el3
[20:30] <absk007> bprompt, yep. :)
[20:30] <absk007> bprompt, thanks btw
[20:30] <EL3PHANTEN> Bashing-om, not sdb
[20:30] <Bashing-om> !pastebin | el3
[20:31] <Bashing-om> EL3PHANTEN: ^^
[20:31] <EL3PHANTEN> ubottu, okey thank you
[20:31] <EL3PHANTEN> again more intelligent than me
[20:32] <Bashing-om> EL3PHANTEN: If more than 1 hard drive, yeah, bed to look, and match. IF primary is GPT best that ALL hard drives are GPT // saves a LOT of confusion at some later time.
[20:32] <EL3PHANTEN> Bashing-om, okey I beleave it was suppose to be sdb
[20:33] <EL3PHANTEN> I have only one. sda is usb
[20:33] <EL3PHANTEN> Bashing-om, wait I will upload the multi-line text
[20:34] <hosler> i like ubuntu
[20:35] <quantibility> yeah i like xubuntu
[20:35] <Bashing-om> EL3PHANTEN: OK, then look at it as /dev/sdb .. let's see what is -> sudo apt-get install pastebinit , sudo gdisk -l /dev/sdb | pastebinit <-. pass the resulting URL back to us.
[20:35] <hosler> i like cornbread too
[20:36] <quantibility> those commands are just like the cool trick i learned about curl
[20:37] <EL3PHANTEN> Bashing-om, http://paste.ubuntu.com/8020392/ this was on the first and second commands
[20:37] <EL3PHANTEN> Bashing-om, Should I answer yes or no_
[20:37] <Bashing-om> EL3PHANTEN: Lookin at your /8020392/.
[20:37] <Artemis3> someone should update the mini iso web page, it has the wrong checksums (against current MD5SUMS anyway)
[20:39] <ice9> why does Ubuntu make a lot of modifications on upstream software?
[20:39] <Artemis3> ah nvm
[20:40] <Artemis3> was looking at sha1 -_-
[20:40] <EL3PHANTEN> Bashing-om, sorry the terminal outputted something danish. Hopefully you know what it is
[20:41] <quantibility> lol
[20:41] <Bashing-om> EL3PHANTEN: ?/ confused. "sudo gdisk -l /dev/sdb" the 'l' option for 'list' // where is the "list" why is it going into a write mode ? is there no data on the hard drive ?
[20:41] <Artemis3> ice9, i can say they do that to the kernel because, they kept 3.13 and keep backporting changes, the rest i doubt they change much (its done by debian packagers anyway)
[20:41] <expunge> ice9: you might not quite understand the point of a distro =)
[20:41] <EL3PHANTEN> Bashing-om, there is win7 64bit
[20:42] <ice9> Artemis3: expunge I'm talking about 3rd party apps like Apache, "sitesavailable"etc..
[20:42] <expunge> ice9: you might not quite understand the point of a distro =)
[20:42] <Artemis3> ice9, probably the answer lies somewhere in launchpad (description of changes)
[20:43] <Bashing-om> EL3PHANTEN: run only -> sudp gdisk -l /dev/sdb <- and I hope to see that listing of possible partitions on that hard disk, else I do not know.
[20:43] <ice9> expunge: it's not a must that a distro force apps to do user's conf in a certain way!
[20:43] <pitwalker> yeah, the source of text disappearing the wrong "nouveau" kernel driver, wrong for an old NVIDIA card.
[20:44] <Artemis3> ice9, many distros modify the software, its part of the freedoms of free software ice9
[20:44] <EL3PHANTEN> Bashing-om, so I shall not choose any option now on what to use. right?
[20:45] <skr> did anyone here managed to get kvm vga passthrough working?
[20:45] <ice9> Artemis3:  okay so what's the wisdom of Ubuntu to do it with the current way? that was my initial question
[20:45] <jhutchins> ice9: There's nothing that prevents you from doing a monolithic configuration for apache.
[20:45] <expunge> ice9: you might not quite understand the point of a distro =)
[20:45] <ice9> expunge: seems not, please explain to me the point of a distro
[20:45] <Artemis3> ice9, as i said, the answer probably lies somewhere in the package description of changes within launchpad, or ask the package maintainer
[20:46] <jhutchins> ice9: As someone who manages a multi-site server, being able to easily toggle sites on and off is handy for me.
[20:46] <Bashing-om> electricprism: My primry hard drive output of gdisk as an example of what I expect to see: http://paste.ubuntu.com/8020460/ .
[20:46] <expunge> ice9: the point of a distro is to provide software in a particular way you can't simply get on your own
[20:47] <Bashing-om> electricprism: Sorry bot that .. EL3PHANTEN ^^ .
[20:47] <ice9> expunge: right so?
[20:47] <jhutchins> ice9: Did you have an ubuntu support question?
[20:48] <ice9> jhutchins: what do you mean?
[20:48] <Artemis3> ice9, different distros have different policies, that simple.
[20:48] <EL3PHANTEN> Bashing-om, http://paste.ubuntu.com/8020482/
[20:49] <Bashing-om> EL3PHANTEN: look'n at your m/8020482/.
[20:51] <Bashing-om> EL3PHANTEN: I do not have a clue as to what is on that hard disk .. I do not know what to advise in this instance. I expect something like my : http://paste.ubuntu.com/8020460/ .
[20:52] <Loshki> expunge: and please explain to me the point of having literally hundreds of distros (see e.g. distrowatch)
[20:52] <expunge> Loshki: people like different things
[20:53] <Pumpkin-> and egos, never underestimate the power of egos
[20:53] <EL3PHANTEN> Bashing-om: Okey, but assuming that I dont care if I loose all data, and start all over. Should I try tochoose GPT or MBR. whats better
[20:53] <styx_> hi! is there something like: http://snapshot.debian.org/package/eglibc/ for ubuntu packages?
[20:54] <expunge> styx_: what aspect, the snapshot?
[20:55] <styx_> I would like all eglibc packages which has been released
[20:55] <EL3PHANTEN> Bashing-om: And if so, shall I try to install ubuntu first then win7 next time.
[20:55] <styx_> not just the newest one
[20:56] <expunge> all?
[20:56] <EL3PHANTEN> If I have to format that is
[20:56] <styx_> expunge: all or just a lot
[20:56] <mikeg3-2> Hi.  I am running Ubuntu 14.04 and I am being autologged in constantly even though I do not want to be.  I want to type a password to login.  I have tried to disable autologin via settings.  It does not work.
[20:57] <pbx> mikeg3-2, by "constantly" you mean whenever you boot?
[20:57] <expunge> mikeg3-2: egrep -ir auto /etc/*lightd*
[20:57] <mikeg3-2> yes whenever I boot
[20:58] <mikeg3-2> have an interesting article here http://askubuntu.com/questions/106428/how-to-disable-automatic-login
[20:58] <newbie|4> Hi, voidfire?
[20:58] <pbx> mikeg3-2, and the "User Accounts" settings for the user that's auto-logging-in shows "Automatic Login Off"?
[20:59] <mikeg3-2> pbx, yes autologin is off
[21:00] <Bashing-om> EL3PHANTEN: EFI is by far better// but right now mostly not understood by many of us // IF you choose to (RE-)install. best/easiest if Windows is installed 1st  ( from old MBR partitioning knowledge). See then if ubuntu's installer - in UEFI mode - sees Windows and will " install along side".
[21:00] <styx_> expunge: you know something like this?
[21:01] <EL3PHANTEN> Bashing-om: Okey. I beleave I just got rid of windows. I chose GPT, and it says -> Total free space is 1953525101 sectors (931.5 GiB)
[21:02] <Bashing-om> EL3PHANTEN: Looks correct to me ( housekeeping takes 5% of the hard drive for system use) .
[21:03] <mikeg3-2> I am thinking I need to edit /etc/group
[21:06] <victorbjelkholm_> Hey! I recently added "xmodmap ~/speedswapper" to swap some keys in my ~/.profile file. Now I see "xmodmap:  please release the following keys within 2 seconds" every time I open up a new shell... Anyone know how to get rid of the message?
[21:06] <EL3PHANTEN> Bashing-om: okey I will try to reboot, if win7 is still there, I will try ubuntu installer.. cya and thank you for you patience.
[21:07] <Bashing-om> EL3PHANTEN: Good. fingers crossed // We ( al of us ) are here to help get ya up on 'buntu.
[21:10] <Pici> di/70
[21:15] <jim3> hello, i have ubuntu 14.04 with gnome installed,but i messed my de so i had to reinstall gnome again...so everytime i boot up i have to set my de to gnome..is there any way that when i boot up i will be at gnome?
[21:16] <apollon> hello
[21:17] <apollon> Hat jemand vielleicht eine Sekunde und kann mir dabei helfen etwas zu installieren ? Bin ganz neu in Ubuntu/Linux
[21:17] <Pici> !de | apollon
[21:17] <Beldar> jim3, The gnome shell or the fallback?
[21:17] <apollon> ty
[21:17] <jim3> the gnome shell beldar
[21:18] <Beldar> jim3, If you are using the autologin, logout than in and it will default to the shell./
[21:19] <jim3> i dont use the autologin beldar
[21:22] <Beldar> jim3Than choose the shell when you login in. Is it you want it to say gnome in that login drop down every time? I tink it defaults to what the original install was.
[21:22] <Beldar> think*
[21:23] <joe--> Hi, I installed Ubuntu 14.04.1 LTS to a netbook.  I installed it via NetInstall with unetbootin.  Problem is it seems like everything was installed to the hard disk, but without having my USB stick plugged in it wont boot into the OS
[21:23] <joe--> I'm wondering if the boot information somehow got stuck on the USB stick?
[21:23] <Beldar> joe--, run sudo parted -l from the install and pastbin it, I will give you the command to fix this.
[21:24] <Beldar> pastebin*
[21:25] <joe--> paste.ubuntu.com/8020742
[21:25] <joe--> thank you..
[21:27] <Beldar> joe--, Remove the usb and run sudo grub-install /dev/sda than sudo update-grub
[21:28] <Beldar> joe--, On occasion with a usb boot the drives get reversed so grub goes to the usb is all.
[21:28] <Beldar> the mbr that is.
[21:29] <joe--> Got a warning about Sector 33 in use by the program "FlexNet"..
[21:29] <joe--> is that fairly normal?
[21:30] <joe--> Beldar: worked, and I was able to boot back into ubuntu without the usb stick thank you again
[21:30] <Beldar> joe--, Ah the yee old flexnet, use this app to fix that, just the basic repair first gui. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Boot-Repair
[21:31] <Beldar> joe--, Ah cool that was fixed awhile back.
[21:31] <joe--> it sucessfully booted, should I still do the boot repair thing or?
[21:35] <hey_joe> I would like to invite everyone to a Beta Shell Account site: https://shellicio.us
[21:35] <hey_joe> Registration is free, instant, and online.  Let us know what you think!
[21:35] <Pricey> hey_joe: Spam sucks.
[21:35] <hey_joe> spam?
[21:35] <hey_joe> i love spam.
[21:35] <Pricey> hey_joe: Also, do you have any offline shells?
[21:36] <hey_joe> offline shells?
[21:36] <rww> lol
[21:36] <Pricey> hey_joe: Yep.
[21:36] <hey_joe> I am not quite sure what you mean.
[21:36] <Pricey> hey_joe: As in, ones that aren't online.
[21:36] <rww> Pricey: i know someone who sells sea shells on the sea shore
[21:36] <Pricey> hey_joe: I would pay for that.
[21:36] <rww> Pricey: the shells that she sells are offline shells i'm sure
[21:37] <hey_joe> Pricey: I do have offline shells.
[21:37] <hey_joe> Pricey: $50/mnth just for you.
[21:37] <Pricey> hey_joe: Anyway, please don't spam :)
[21:37] <hey_joe> I didn't spam.
[21:37] <rww> Yes you did.
[21:37] <hey_joe> I did?
[21:37] <rww> Yep.
[21:37] <hey_joe> Cause I invited a channel to use a service I just finished setting up?
[21:37] <Sverdar> unsolicited invitations are spammy as hell, but tks anyway :P
[21:38] <hey_joe> I didn't violate any channel rules.
[21:38] <rww> Yes you did.
[21:38] <hey_joe> Where?
[21:38] <Mast> Ok. Basic question. Anyone had a problem with ubuntu hanging during the install? I've tried 4 difference computers and it does the same thing.
[21:38] <rww> !ot
[21:38] <rww> and don't spam it there either, kthx
[21:38] <hey_joe> didn't violate any rules.
[21:38] <hey_joe> we've wasted more time and screen real estate chatting about it.
[21:38] <hey_joe> trolls.
[21:39] <expunge> =)
[21:39] <agliodbs> on server 14.04, somehow it came up with eth0 configured to the wrong network.  I've switched to using eth1, but the default setup for eth1 doesn't include a gateway address via dhcp.  What's the easiest way to get eth1 configured correctly?
[21:39] <hey_joe> ah well.
[21:39] <expunge> some things are worth destroying
[21:39] <hey_joe> later folks.
[21:39] <expunge> joinspam is one of those things
[21:39] <Mast> I get a great deal of OSError: [Errno 28] No space left on device
[21:39] <rww> anyways, back to on-topic support stufff
[21:39] <agliodbs> I'm getting a bit lost in the maze of command-line network config tools.
[21:40] <_unreal_> ok quick question, I'm about to download and install the latest LTS iso. I have an Athlon x64 3400, with 3gb ram, and 38TB of storage. the computer has an ATI X1050 video card and gig ethernet. I'm planning on using this tower to be a media server for my home network serving video and music data to any capable streaminmg media device I have. I'm wondering what LTS version I should get.
[21:40] <Sverdar> agliodbs: maybe this one helps http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/setting-up-an-network-interfaces-file/
[21:40] <expunge> _unreal_: just get the latest ubuntu version
[21:40] <Bashing-om> Mast: " No space left on device" look and see whay -> df -h df -i <- for starters.
[21:41] <expunge> LTS is for people who irrationally avoid updating
[21:41] <_unreal_> this computer may MAY also be used for some low end steam games rarlly
[21:41] <Mast> I did these, and I get reports of 2% usage
[21:41] <Mast> The only reason I can think is that its a bad drive, but S.m.a.r.t status says its "good"
[21:41] <agliodbs> Sverdar: right, once the file is configured correctly, what command do I run to reconfigure the network?
[21:41] <expunge> Mast: smart is irrelevant, as you can see
[21:42] <Mast> I can't see really, but I understand what you mean
[21:42] <_unreal_> export, I planning on having this be mostly a closet computer. mostly in suspend state or OFF. the media that is streamed may need to be transcoded on the fly
[21:42] <agliodbs> the /etc/init.d/networking apparently does nothing
[21:42] <_unreal_> to xbox360 and PS, or the blueray
[21:42] <agliodbs> it's really seeming like I can't actually make any runtime network changes on 14.04.  Everything I do seems to be overridden by some other ubuntu utility.
[21:42] <Mast> Maybe a better question, would be what could the common causes for such a problem as mine?
[21:42] <Sverdar> agliodbs: ifconfig eth1 down && ifconfig eth1 up
[21:43] <Sverdar> and sould be working
[21:43] <Sverdar> *should
[21:43] <_unreal_> or ifup eth1
[21:44] <Bashing-om> Mattickbot: "common causes for such a problem as mine: /boot partition full -> df -h to see.
[21:45] <agliodbs> Sverdar: I'm still not picking up the gateway address from dchp
[21:45] <agliodbs> Sverdar: even though my 12.04 laptop has no issue doing so
[21:45] <_unreal_> what I'm trying to figure out is if I should download ubuntu server or ubuntu desktop
[21:46] <k1l> _unreal_: is that system gpoing to act as a server?
[21:46] <_unreal_> yes its going to be a pure media/DATA server for streaming content
[21:47] <Sverdar> agliodbs: try to configure it manually and see if it works. DHCP should get that automatically. If not I would think DHCP server is bad configurated but you used it before... so let's try manual stuff :P
[21:47] <k1l> so go with the server install.
[21:48] <_unreal_> is there really any major difference between server and desktop or is it just a collection of server friendly options and same for desktop
[21:48] <agliodbs> Sverdar: resolve.conf gets overwritten by some utility whenever I reload the ifconfig
[21:48] <_unreal_> preloaded
[21:48] <expunge> _unreal_: if you're going to play a game on it, get desktop
[21:48] <k1l> you could install a desktop afterwards. but keep in mind that servers dont have desktops to reduce the system load to a minimum
[21:48] <expunge> _unreal_: it's just what's preloaded
[21:48] <k1l> _unreal_: the base is the same. the desktop installs have all the desktop stuff preinstalled.
[21:49] <_unreal_> I'll still use the gui now and thenb
[21:49] <_unreal_> then
[21:49] <linuxuz3r> hi
[21:49] <_unreal_> ease of use and management
[21:49] <linuxuz3r> what is an rsa key
[21:49] <k1l> so its not a server if you use the desktop.
[21:50] <PastorWade> Anyone know how to get a lenovo h535 to boot up ubuntu?  It's installed but giving a 1962 error
[21:50] <agliodbs> Sverdar: I added a gateway to /etc/network/interfaces,but ubuntu still isn't picking it up
[21:50] <_unreal_> ok so desktop would be the better choice and I'll just remove the calls for starting desktop automaticly
[21:50] <k1l> !text | _unreal_
[21:50] <agliodbs> Sverdar: it really seems like ubuntu is using some set of network configuration files other than /etc/network
[21:52] <_unreal_> because its going to be running as a server 99% of the time. once its fullly up and running most anything and every thing I do to the system will be remote management via SSH or maybe even HTML
[21:52] <expunge> _unreal_: if you just boot a desktop system and it's running server stuff with just a login screen up, the "load" of the desktop will be next to nothing
[21:52] <EL3PHANTEN> Bashing-om: I just installed Ubuntu :D up and running, devided the 1tb into 500/2. Anyways, turns out I lost Windows. Anyways I suppose it will be easy to install win7 on the remaining 500gb.
[21:52] <Sverdar> agliodbs: yeah, maybe your network-manager is doing that. But I can't help you on that, I don't have Unity or something like that in my Ubuntu.
[21:52] <agliodbs> Sverdar: it's 14.04 server.  no network-manager
[21:52] <k1l> _unreal_: real server tasks are meant to be managed through ssh or configs in the first place.
[21:53] <agliodbs> given that /etc/init.d/networking is useless, is there some way to force ubuntu to reload all networks from scratch, other than a full reboot of the system?
[21:53] <_unreal_> EL3PHANTEN, you typically want to load windows first then install linux. if you lost your windows then the choices made for partitioning where not ideal and there for removed the windows install
[21:53] <expunge> EL3PHANTEN: yes it'll be easy
[21:54] <theborger> hello users.  how can i remove the motd message that comes up when i log in via SSH?
[21:54] <EL3PHANTEN> _unreal_: I know, I just couldnt get it to work. So I tried something
[21:54] <Sverdar> agliodbs: ooh me too, and I'm not having that issue at all. I've changed that yesterday actually.
[21:54] <theborger> i don't need the documentation etc to show
[21:54] <Bashing-om> EL3PHANTEN: Lost Windows ? is it installed ? .. from ubuntu terminal command -> sudo update-grub <- see if Windows is not picked up by grub.
[21:54] <theborger> google is not showing much info
[21:55] <_unreal_> EL3PHANTEN, typically it will ask during the install if you would like to preserve your windows instilation. I'm asujming you chose to use entire disk for partitioning rather then use unused space on the drive
[21:55] <Sverdar> agliodbs: try sudo service network-manager restart
[21:55] <agliodbs> no such service
[21:55] <_unreal_> Bashing-om, he mentioned changing his partitions around. I believe he wiped every thing
[21:56] <Beldar> _unreal_, Stop assuming and ask for proof of what's on the HD.
[21:56] <EL3PHANTEN> Whats the ubuntu paste link again ubott?
 Bashing-om: I just installed Ubuntu :D up and running, devided the 1tb into 500/2.
[21:56] <_unreal_> Beldar,
[21:56] <agliodbs> Someone seems to have designed this so that you can't make changes to the network without rebooting the machine.
[21:56] <Beldar> EL3PHANTEN, pastebin sudo parted-l run in ubuntu
[21:57] <Bashing-om> _unreal_: I was hoping other wise, earlier He had advises was going to (RE-)install Windows, and try once more to install ubuntu.
[21:57] <theborger> anyone??
[21:58] <DJJeff> checking for arm-linux-gcc... no
[21:58] <DJJeff> checking for gcc... gcc
[21:58] <DJJeff> can not find arm-linux-gcc in apt-file search
[21:58] <Beldar> theborger, Keep you inquiries in one post, anyone no comments, make it concise and connected.
[21:59] <_unreal_> Bashing-om, so your just looking for preserving windows and producing a dualboot system. wipe the system, load windows. then start the linux install it will ask how you'd like to modify your HD, you want to use remaining HD space or adjust as needed. it should walk you threw it.
[21:59] <costa71> ciao
[21:59] <theborger> hello users.  how can i remove the motd message that comes up when i log in via SSH? it shows the documentation, and stats etc. how do i remove this?
[21:59] <EL3PHANTEN> Bashing-om: http://paste.ubuntu.com/8021007/
[21:59] <OerHeks> DJJeff, what tutorial says it is in ubuntu repo's ?
[21:59] <costa71> !addon
[22:00] <Beldar> mmm UEFI
[22:00] <Beldar> costa71, State the issue please.
[22:00] <EL3PHANTEN> and http://paste.ubuntu.com/8021010/
[22:00] <OerHeks> !info gcc-arm-linux-gnueabi
[22:00] <Bashing-om> _unreal_: Yepper, was hopping for that outcome with EL3PHANTEN ( seems he hosed up the partition table GPT/MBR and lost the Windows partition).
[22:01] <andrej> I have a bunch of machines sitting on private network (no route to the outside). They receive updates via apt-cacher-ng, which works fine for most things. What doesn't work is things from PPA; I'd like to be able to update PPA packages, but it keeps telling me BADSIG, even though I manually installed the correct key, and verified w/ "apt-key finger" that it's present.
[22:01] <andrej> Is aptitude trying to verify the key against the server?
[22:01] <k1l> theborger: make the scripts in /etc/update-motd.d not executable
[22:02] <Viking667> hi all. I've just installed a Sapphire R9 270 into the wife's machine, running 64-bit 14.04.
[22:02] <Viking667> I did have a ASUS R7 240.
[22:02] <Bashing-om> EL3PHANTEN: Nope no see a Windows entry // Beldar's advise applies .
[22:02] <Beldar> EL3PHANTEN, Do you have the windows install media?
[22:02] <Viking667> now I'm not seeing a /dev/dri and I'm wondering what I missed.
[22:03] <EL3PHANTEN> Beldar: You mean like a win7 usb? then yes. I will try it in school tomorrow
[22:03] <Viking667> do I just run a dpkg-reconfigure on amdcccle?
[22:03] <EL3PHANTEN> On the remaining 500gb
[22:03] <agliodbs> wow, ubuntu 14.04 server is a disaster.  time to switch to debian
[22:03] <agliodbs> later
[22:04] <_unreal_> agliodbs?
[22:04] <Beldar> EL3PHANTEN, Cool, be aware you seem to still have a gpt partiton table, this is an issue you need to understand is all.
[22:04] <k1l> theborger: or better try dpkg-reconfigure landscape-comon
[22:04] <_unreal_> hehehe I'm switching my server grade tower from debian to ubuntu because its got old hardware in it and does not seem to have a high level of support natively
[22:05] <expunge> _unreal_: wha?
[22:06] <EL3PHANTEN> Beldar: okey. That mean I cannot just boot from win7 usb and install on the unallocated space?
[22:06] <Beldar> EL3PHANTEN, Seems to be a uefi/efi bios as well, the info on a windows forst is good as it makes it an easier fix if needed is all.
[22:06] <_unreal_> expunge, I've had nothing but issues getting any thing working. networking is still not working on that computer and other issues, err WIFI, my video card is not fully working YET every thing works hunky dorry on ubuntu.
[22:06] <Beldar> first*
[22:06] <_unreal_> EL3PHANTEN, correct
[22:07] <expunge> _unreal_: what version of Debian?
[22:07] <_unreal_> 7.6
[22:07] <EL3PHANTEN> Crap. then I start all over tomorrow
[22:07] <Beldar> EL3PHANTEN, I would ask in ##windows on the uefi gpt install.
[22:07] <Beldar> for W7
[22:07] <_unreal_> EL3PHANTEN, whats what I said before you'll have an easyer time just starting from scratch.
[22:08] <Beldar> EL3PHANTEN, This is what happens when you just try something rather than being sure is all. ;)
[22:08] <expunge> _unreal_: so you were comparing Debian stable with Ubuntu (which is sourced from Debian unstable)
[22:08] <expunge> just FYI
[22:08] <Beldar> and no backups or images/clones EL3PHANTEN
[22:08] <EL3PHANTEN> _unreal_: Okey when all formatted, like earlier today. 1. I install windows on the 1000gb drive. ? right
[22:09] <_unreal_> yes just install like its a single install, the windows that is
[22:09] <_unreal_> after that dont worry about getting drivers and all the other stuff on it just get it installed to a point where you can stop.
[22:10] <_unreal_> THEN put your ubuntu disk in, and start the install. the main thing your looking for is presesrving your windows installation. there are walk threws look on google. theyw ill show you what to do for a DUAL boot. now the install process should ask if you want to have a dual boot system.
[22:11] <EL3PHANTEN> _unreal_: okey. Then I can choose in BIOS. UEFI "for win8". or legacy support "for other OS"... Should I choose any particular?
[22:11] <_unreal_> uefi is for booting from thumb drives
[22:12] <_unreal_> what is your source? for your windows and linux? cd/dvd's? or usb drives?
[22:12] <EL3PHANTEN> _unreal_: usb both
[22:12] <bekks> uefi is not for booting from thumb drives, it is a replacement for the acient BIOS booting method.
[22:12]  * Beldar loves questionable instructions with no reference to the importance of images/clones
[22:12] <_unreal_> isnt that an oxymoron? its a replacement for the BOOTING method LOL
[22:13] <Viking667> hm. I still can't see any /dev/dri, even though I've reconfigured fglrx-amdcccle-updates and fglrx-updates.
[22:13] <Viking667> so. Where to from here?
[22:13] <_unreal_> Viking667, i've been having ati issues as well
[22:13] <k1l> _unreal_: please dont advice into the blue in here. some users come in here beeing frustrated and tend to trust the supporters.
[22:13] <Beldar> EL3PHANTEN, Install windows make sure it works, use it's disk manager to make a unallocated if not there, and clone that windows install.
[22:14] <EL3PHANTEN> _unreal_: I tried today, but didnt seeem to get the option to choose together with win, in ubuntu installation. only an empty partition table.
[22:15] <Beldar> EL3PHANTEN, You had a partition table no partitions is what you mean.
[22:15] <EL3PHANTEN> Beldar: is that the resize C: partition in windows?
[22:15] <_unreal_> I cant help on the exact info for the dual boot blaa blaa blaa. its been to long
[22:16] <EL3PHANTEN> Beldar: on ubuntu installation, I saw only 1000gb free space
[22:16] <EL3PHANTEN> Even if win7 worked
[22:16] <Beldar> EL3PHANTEN, Most likely yes, however this is if you have just the windows boot partition and the C partition. You can do a manual windows install to specific partition sizes, leaving an unallocated space.
[22:17] <EL3PHANTEN> _unreal_: it's okey. I guess I will be back here tomorrow, when I do this.
[22:17] <Viking667> feels like a 900 horsepower engine with a pair of pedals.
[22:17] <_unreal_> EL3PHANTEN, if the only thing you viewed was an empty drive during the linux install. I'm going on a hunch that the worng HD partition option may have been chosen.
[22:17] <Viking667> sigh.
 Beldar: on ubuntu installation, I saw only 1000gb free space. This is because it is uefi and gpt, you have to have the unallocated to install ubuntu to
[22:17] <_unreal_> Viking667, "redbull"?
[22:18] <Beldar> Viking667, Keep your comments to the inquiry the extra off topic stuff confuses your issues, and spams the channel.
[22:18] <EL3PHANTEN> Beldar: I tried making allocated partition in windows. But it still didnt show up
[22:19] <Beldar> EL3PHANTEN, You can't build a linux partiton in windows.
[22:19] <Beldar> EL3PHANTEN, You want unallocated.
[22:19] <Viking667> Beldar: I was actually referring to the new video card I'd installed, which seems to be supported by the fglrx driver, but the kernel doesn't allocate a /dev/dri
[22:20] <EL3PHANTEN> Beldar: yes, but during installation, it still showed 1000gb free space
[22:20] <Beldar> Viking667, cool just keep it concise and relevant to our inquiry so we can help is all. ;)
[22:20] <EL3PHANTEN> after I made unallocated in windows
[22:20] <Beldar> your*
[22:21] <Beldar> EL3PHANTEN, Chances are you had not made an actual unallocated, you were there we were not, it's a guess at this point from our end, no proof available.
[22:21] <Viking667> Beldar: cool. Ubuntu 14.04, 64-bit. With R7-240 ASUS card, DRI works. With Sapphire R9-270X, it doesn't seem to work.
[22:22] <Beldar> Viking667, Thanks outside my knowledge area is all, just making sure you get help. ;)
[22:22] <Viking667> the fglrx modprobes, so I'm wondering what I missed. I ran dpkg-reconfigure fglrx-updates, which gave me some updated DKMS modules, I guess.
[22:22] <Viking667> I'm wondering where to go from here.
[22:23] <Beldar> EL3PHANTEN, I think since you have till tomorrow you might do some research on the web and ##windows on uefi install and dual boots with ubuntu. Ubuntu has wiki's on both.
[22:23] <EL3PHANTEN> Beldar: maybe. But on windows, I chose to resize C: .. after that the remaining 470gb went unallocate on my screen.. Anyways, the only way now is to start over. _unreal_ mentioned something about wrong HD setting
[22:24] <EL3PHANTEN> Beldar: Yes
[22:24] <EL3PHANTEN> sry HD option
[22:25] <_unreal_> I stated that the worng HD partitioning option may have been chosen during the linux install there for giving the impression of an empty HD
[22:25] <Beldar> EL3PHANTEN, Note _unreal_ was asked by the mods to not just advise "into the blue", meaning be exact and accurate
[22:25] <Beldar> we all want to help, it can be a challenge knowing how and when to stop
[22:26] <Mast> Okay, so how do I go about creating a persistent bootable USB of ubuntu from within Windows 7? is unebootin okay for this?
[22:26] <EL3PHANTEN> Beldar: I was aware of that
[22:27] <Beldar> Mast, Unetbootin has this option yes.
[22:27] <Mast> Because I've tried linuxliveusb for this, and I'm unable to make the installation persistent
[22:28] <Beldar> EL3PHANTEN, Cool, itis just that you need to do some research, asking here or the IRC can just make yo more confused if you are kinda there already and not just at the install phase. Where we can deal with what is happening in real time.
[22:29] <Beldar> Mast, I would be surprised if linuxliveusb does not have a persistant option.
[22:30] <Mast> So far as I can tell, it does, but I'm unable to specificy persistency size
[22:30] <Mast> from within the program
[22:30] <EL3PHANTEN> Beldar: Tru. Thanks. I am going to read about this. And come back if it still does not work.
[22:31] <Beldar> Mast, Preface the person you address with their nick. That installer is 3rd party so if you are lucky someone might know it here, if not you can just try another of the handful of usb loaders.
[22:32] <Beldar> EL3PHANTEN, I would use ##windows for it's install and cloning and here for ubuntu .
[22:34] <fridaynext> does anyone here know about video cables? I need to run either displayport or hdmi over 30', and I want to carry 1440p.
[22:34] <fridaynext> I'd like as high a refresh rate as possible, as well.
[22:34] <Beldar> fridaynext, Exactly how far?
[22:34] <fridaynext> Beldar: 30'
[22:34] <Beldar> 2 miles 40 ft
[22:35] <Mast> I don't believe display port can handle over 1080p
[22:35] <Beldar> fridaynext, Just get a good cable that is an acceptable distance.
[22:36] <Mast> regular hdmi (1.4 stardard) will do up to 4k
[22:36] <Beldar> fridaynext, I have one off amazon of that exact distance works fine. IT is a high quality cable however.
[22:37] <fridaynext> Mast: will it do it at 60Hz over 30'?
[22:37] <Beldar> gold plated and blessed by the pope. ;)
[22:37] <fridaynext> Beldar: you're running 1440p?
[22:37] <Mast> Yes
[22:37] <Beldar> fridaynext, NOt using it now is all.
[22:37] <Footy> Beldar do you need 60hz?
[22:37] <Mast> So far as I know, it will do that up to 100 feet
[22:38] <Beldar> Footy, Not sure I have not looked at the samsung resolution info.
[22:38] <Mast> Up to 120Hz I to my understanding
[22:38] <fridaynext> Here's the cable I bought http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00AJHCS40/
[22:39] <Footy> most peoples eyes are unable to see past 24
[22:39] <fridaynext> I'm running it in the wall, so I want to make sure I can use it with my Wii U, and with my gaming PC.
[22:39] <Footy> but yeah any decent 10m (30') cable from amazon will be fine
[22:39] <Beldar> Mast, Always preface with nicks here please, you can type a few letters of the user and hit the tab key to complete
[22:39] <Footy> if you want to spend a lot of money then you can but its mostly a waste on hdmi
[22:39] <kostkon> Footy, 24hz?
[22:39] <Mast> fridaynext You could have saved yourself a fair bit of money and bought a brandless one off of eBay, but that should do it.
[22:39] <Footy> kostkon yes
[22:40] <CodeGosu> is there a relible way to hibernate ubuntu?
[22:40] <fridaynext> Mast: since it's gonna be in the wall, I figured spending more up front was a safe bet.
[22:40] <Beldar> CodeGosu, What problems are you having?
[22:40] <fridaynext> And 'redmere' seems to be the beez kneez.
[22:40] <Mast> fridaynext I will agree with you there, actually.
[22:40] <kostkon> Footy, possibly, on tft/lcds. On crts on the other hand, 24hz would burn your eyes
[22:40] <Mast> fridaynext There should be no problem with this cable
[22:41] <fridaynext> Mast: excellent. Thanks so much.
[22:41] <Mast> fridaynext Although if youlook at this link it has many more positive reviews than the one you bought. http://www.amazon.com/BlueRigger-High-Speed-Cable--wall/dp/B005LJQM3Y/ref=sr_1_2?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1407796882&sr=1-2&keywords=30%27+hdmi
[22:42] <Footy> kostkon depends on the size but yes crt's in large sizes need a higher hz due to the way phosphor reacts
[22:42] <Beldar> CodeGosu, http://ubuntuhandbook.org/index.php/2014/04/enable-hibernate-ubuntu-14-04/  If you have not enabled hibernate, you have to have a swap just slightly larger than your ram/memory amount is all.
[22:42] <Mast> fridaynext and its rated for wall installation
[22:42] <fridaynext> Mast: I might just cancel my previous order...
[22:42] <kostkon> Footy, yes, I don't know the details of that, you might know them better, i don't
[22:42] <Footy> kostkon this can be done by taking a 24+hz signal and doubling the rate it onto th display
[22:43] <CodeGosu> i was trying tuxonice because standart way of hibernation was loading only half of ram apon awaking from hibernation that leaded to huge times spent in paging from swap file, however tuxonice did hang on saving snapshots half of times. now i deleted tuxonice however im not sure how can i setup hibernattion to work clean
[22:43] <Mast> fridaynext You would be better off. 566 people can be wrong, but that's much less likely than the 16 review $50 monoprice
[22:43] <Footy> kostkon you are right with crts. but seriously who still has a crt :D
[22:43] <fridaynext> Mast: I'm just worried that that one doesn't specifically mention resolutions higher than 1080p
[22:43] <kostkon> Footy, nowadays only the ludites and hipsters
[22:43] <Beldar> CodeGosu, HOw much ram and how much swap?
[22:44] <Mast> fridaynext Any hdmi made after oct 2010 will handle resolutions as high as 4k
[22:44] <staxxx> Hello everyon. Under pulseaudio, I can only see "Dummy output" and "No cards available for configuration". The sound level bars are moving for the dummy output, but there is no sound output... any help please? sudo aplay -l returns a: no soundcards found
[22:44] <dw1> how can i add shred to nautilus when i drag and drop holding shift to move files
[22:44] <Mast> fridaynext You can review this here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HDMI#Version_1.4
[22:44] <Footy> here is a cable that supports 4k    http://www.amazon.co.uk/Chord-Active-Resolution-Cable-10-0M/dp/B008RLTANM  is does cost $700
[22:44] <fridaynext> LoL
[22:44] <pdo_fn14> Need fast, can you give me a link to fix some disruption when upgrading to utopic, my trusty now in trouble
[22:45] <pdo_fn14> http://paste.ubuntu.com/8021301/
[22:45] <Footy> chord is one of the best makes for these types of cables but seriously  its stupid price
[22:45] <fridaynext> Mast: Just wanna make sure it's gonna do 60 Hz so I can use it for gaming as well. I figured refresh rate suffers as length increases
[22:45] <Beldar> !14.10 | pdo_fn14
[22:45] <Footy> fridaynext you figure wrong
[22:46] <fridaynext> Footy: good!
[22:46] <Footy> fridaynext hdmi has built in EC  either it will work or it wont,  its not going to half work
[22:46] <Beldar> pdo_fn14, #ubuntu+1
[22:46] <fridaynext> Footy: and I see 1.3 does 2560x1440 at 60Hz, 1.4 does 4k @ 30Hz, and 2.0 does 4k @ 60Hz.
[22:47] <Beldar> pdo_fn14, Why would you upgrade to a development anyway?
[22:47] <fridaynext> what is, I'm good.
[22:47] <Footy> the hdmi signal without audio is the same as DVI-D1.1
[22:47] <fridaynext> Footy: that makes a lot more sense.
[22:47] <mikeg3> Hi I need to edit the /etc/gshadow file, but I am stuck in read only mode.  I am trying to use nano to do so.  Any suggestions?
[22:48] <Beldar> mikeg3, Still on this eh, why the edit?
[22:48] <pdo_fn14> I tried to googling and change all line to trusty in /etc/apt/source.list but I can't fix it and totally want to revert back to trusty
[22:48] <Footy> imho you wont be able to tell the difference between 30 and 60.  but go spend our money if you want :D
[22:48] <Footy> your*
[22:48] <Beldar> pdo_fn14, Not the way to do it, and again why the upgrade to a development not released.
[22:49] <Beldar> pdo_fn14, Did you get the upgrade to utopic and it is good? You cannot revert to a lower release safely.
[22:49] <Beldar> !who | pdo_fn14
[22:50] <OerHeks> pdo_fn14, if upgrade gives that error, you are still on trusty
[22:50] <mikeg3> Beldar, look here where the green checkmark is :  http://askubuntu.com/questions/106428/how-to-disable-automatic-login
[22:51] <pdo_fn14> Beldar: I didn't. Sorry for inconvenience in here. I will talk in #ubuntu+1 soon
[22:51] <fridaynext> Footy: but this cable should do 60Hz, and it's cheap.  So win-win-win. :)
[22:51] <Beldar> mikeg3, If you have a desktop go to users and untick the auto login.
[22:51] <pdo_fn14> OerHeks: I can't installing anymore.
[22:52] <staxxx> Hello everyon. Under pulseaudio, I can only see "Dummy output" and "No cards available for configuration". The sound level bars are moving for the dummy output, but there is no sound output... any help please? sudo aplay -l returns a: no soundcards found
[22:52] <mikeg3> Beldar, Been to users 5000 times under user accounts, autologin is unticked...I promise!
[22:53] <mamece2> hi guys, i have a problem with unmet dependencies
[22:54] <Beldar> mikeg3, Do you have more than one desktop and are you going to the original desktop and check users if you haver added desktops?
[22:54] <Beldar> mamece2, prove it in pastbin
[22:54] <Beldar> pastebin
[22:54] <mikeg3> no only one desktop
[22:54] <mikeg3> as far as I am aware
[22:54] <Beldar> mikeg3, The original on install correct?
[22:55] <Liam`> I have a PHP script that binds a IPv6 tunnel broker, and I was wondering if someone could easily turn it into something I can paste into /etc/network/interfaces? http://hastebin.com/ukofuyexok.php
[22:56] <mikeg3> Yes beldar, the original on install afaik
[22:56] <Footy> do people still use pastebin when there is hastebin?
[22:58] <mamece2> Footy: tell me more
[22:59] <Beldar> Footy, Why do you even care, there are tons of options.
[22:59] <mamece2> Beldar: please give me the command to send the link
[23:00] <Beldar> mamece2, You claim to have a dependency problem, how is that coming up?
[23:01] <mamece2> Beldar: I want to send you the pastebin link so you can see
[23:01] <Beldar> !pastebin | mamece2
[23:01] <k1l> put the link in here
[23:01] <mamece2> !pastebinit
[23:01] <Beldar> mmm no X
[23:02] <mamece2> Beldar: I cant install pastebinit because: You might want to run 'apt-get -f install' to correct these:
[23:02] <mamece2> The following packages have unmet dependencies:
[23:02] <mamece2>  ufoai : Depends: ufoai-common (>= 2.5-1~getdeb1) but it is not going to be installed
[23:02] <mamece2>          Depends: ufoai-maps but it is not going to be installed
[23:02] <mamece2> E: Unmet dependencies. Try 'apt-get -f install' with no packages (or specify a solution).
[23:02] <mamece2> that wasnt elegant at all
[23:03] <droid909> guys i was following this tutorial http://phpave.com/upgrade-php-5-3-php-5-5-ubuntu-12-04-lts/ and got this error http://pastebin.com/FhQW5UDx upon this command sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade , is it fixable?
[23:04] <Beldar> mamece2, looks 3rd party, what does a sudo apt-get update show?
[23:04] <TaZeR> hey is there a ubuntu 14.10 alpha support chan?
[23:04] <teward> TaZeR, try #ubuntu+1
[23:04] <TaZeR> ty
[23:05] <Footy> mamece2 what is to tell? :D
[23:05] <mamece2> Footy: about hastebin, but i already figure it out, tx
[23:05] <Maya22>  Here some videos. I hope you like them! http://j.mp/1oEKLKx
[23:06] <Beldar> Don't click on that link
[23:07] <mikeg3> Beldar, to be fair, I should say Autologin is OFF in Ubuntu 14.04, not unticked because it is not a checkbox, but the meaning and result are still the same.
[23:08] <staxxx> pulseaudio does not show soundcards available any help please??
[23:08] <mamece2> Beldar: sudo apt-get update gets stuck in some point
[23:08] <k1l> mamece2: put that output into a pastebin site. and show the link you recieve in here
[23:08] <Beldar> mamece2, We need to actual info you see. Is this computer not on the web?
[23:08] <Beldar> the*
[23:09] <mamece2> Beldar: k1l : I will wait until the apt-get update is done and then paste it.
[23:11] <mamece2> Beldar: k1l : it gets stuck before "Ign http://repo.steampowered.com precise/steam Translation-en_US" and then it runs entire until the end
[23:12] <k1l> mamece2: the steam repos are very unstable these days. you can set them off to not have those issues
[23:12] <mamece2> pastebin is down
[23:14] <mamece2> k1l: what does steam has to do with ufoai-common????????
[23:14] <k1l> nothing. i just explained what you told me is one of your issues
[23:15] <k1l> you dont make it easy to help you at all :/
[23:15] <Psil0Cybin> hey guys what are the new GUIs for Ubuntu
[23:15] <Psil0Cybin> like Moon something
[23:16] <k1l> and ufoai-common seems to be some game from getdeb. that is the typical issue when a PPA goes wrong
[23:16] <mamece2> k1l: i disable steam, run update, and then when i do upgrade: You might want to run 'apt-get -f install' to correct these.
[23:16] <mamece2> k1l: yes, it is from getdeb
[23:16] <k1l> mamece2: did you try the command it told you?
[23:16]  * Viking667 grins.  Does anyone know what package the [[ command is supplied with?
[23:17] <k1l> [[ command? Viking667
[23:17] <Viking667> correct.
[23:17] <mamece2> k1l: repeat the command please
[23:17] <Viking667> I know there's a [ command, but I'm trying to install a program that wants the [[ command.
[23:17] <k1l> mamece2: you just told the command yourself: <mamece2> k1l: i disable steam, run update, and then when i do upgrade: You might want to run 'apt-get -f install' to correct these.
[23:18] <Viking667> I might also check out with the bash boys too.
[23:18] <mamece2> k1l: http://pastebin.com/ server not found.
[23:19] <k1l> mamece2: load the http://pastebin.com/ site in a browser, put the text in it and give the link in here
[23:20] <mamece2> k1l:  I cant, the site is down. it resolves "server not found"
[23:20] <k1l> then use another pastebin site
[23:20] <mamece2> http://hastebin.com/oyogetopax.vbs
[23:21] <k1l> like http://paste.ubuntu.com
[23:21] <jorge> is ubuntu most secure distro?
[23:21] <k1l> mamece2: try the command the error tells you
[23:23] <mikeg3> Does anyone have any ideas on my autologin issue?  I am gong into rescue mode to try to boot root again if not.
[23:24] <mamece2> k1l: http://paste.ubuntu.com/8021598/
[23:25] <mamece2> Beldar: look. http://paste.ubuntu.com/8021598/
[23:27] <k1l> mamece2: try removeing the packages first. there seems to be a problem with you installing the newer packages over the old installs
[23:27] <Beldar> mamece2, I'm not really up on how to get rid of a broken install really.
[23:28] <mamece2> k1l:  if i remove them , how can i install them again?
[23:28]  * k1l needs to leave anyway, bb
[23:28] <mamece2> D:
[23:30] <Flerb> Is there a relatively good streaming server that is easy to set up on ubuntu? I tried using VLC but it got annoying that I couldn't rewind and fast forward from the client and that if it buffered it would just skip what it couldn't load
[23:31] <staxxx> My sounds suddenly stopped playing on Ubuntu 13.04 64bit. I can only see Dummy output device in the Sound Settings and no sound is played during testing.
[23:31] <daftykins> !eol | staxxx
[23:31] <staxxx> My sounds suddenly stopped playing on Ubuntu 12.04 32bit. I can only see Dummy output device in the Sound Settings and no sound is played during testing.
[23:31] <staxxx> soory typo
[23:32] <daftykins> not an HP laptop is it?
[23:32] <miki> hi
[23:32] <staxxx> eol??
[23:32] <daftykins> staxxx: don't worry, that was for when you said 13.04.
[23:32] <miki> what its IRC?
[23:32] <staxxx> its a 12.04 ubuntustudio
[23:32] <daftykins> miki: this is IRC yes, a channel for ubuntu support only. unless you have a question please go somewhere else
[23:32] <staxxx> any help please?
[23:33] <daftykins> staxxx: not an HP laptop is it? for the second time ¬_¬
[23:33] <staxxx> compaq c700
[23:33] <staxxx> compaq c700 laptop
[23:34] <daftykins> staxxx: done an update recently? booted into a new kernel maybe?
[23:35] <staxxx> maybe. dunno 4 sure really. been trying to fix this so I done many things
[23:35] <staxxx> :/
[23:35] <daftykins> 'fix' ?
[23:35] <daftykins> do you want to share the full story then instead of part of it? :)
[23:35] <staxxx> get it to work
[23:36] <daftykins> ...
[23:36] <staxxx> it happend before installing multimedia system software
[23:36] <staxxx> i guess
[23:37] <daftykins> staxxx: go boot a liveCD to test any of your changes weren't the cause
[23:37] <staxxx> if i boot into elementaru os everything works fine
[23:37] <staxxx> elementary*
[23:38] <daftykins> sounds like you broke something then
[23:38] <daftykins> until you explain what it is you did, we're at a loss
[23:41] <Lorianne22>  Hi! I give you some videos. I hope you like! http://bitly.com/1nJPjKj
[23:42] <Beldar> Don't click on that
[23:43] <staxxx> what may be broke
[23:43] <staxxx> sorry wasnt at the laptop. now i am
[23:44] <tigrang> What packages do we need for the open source ati driver
[23:44] <Beldar> tigrang, Should auto install, is there an actual issue?
[23:45] <staxxx> nothing shows up as broken in synaptic
[23:45] <tigrang> Beldar, Yeah well GDM was broken earlier today, the gdm script had an extra "fi" at the end ( line 79 )
[23:45] <tigrang> There was a ticket open, but it was from a few months ago
[23:46] <tigrang> now it just boots to a black screen (gdm wont start but no logs are generated)
[23:46] <Beldar> tigrang, State the graphic hardware to the channel, you sure it is gdm and not lightdm?
[23:46] <staxxx> any help?
[23:47] <tigrang> it's ubuntu 14.04 gnome shell. The graphics card is an Radeon HD 7870 series
[23:47] <Beldar> tigrang, The shell is lightdm mine is anyway
[23:48] <Beldar> I don't think I switched it.
[23:48] <Beldar> tigrang, I have to go, if you are using fglrx make sure that info is included.
[23:50] <staxxx> ??