[12:09] <mikedep333> Hi, I'm not sure what package this bug I reported belongs to.
[12:09] <mikedep333> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/1354839
[12:09] <mikedep333> there are some other cloud-images bugs with no package specified.
[12:25] <rbasak> mikedep333: I've asked the relevant people in #ubuntu-server for you. Thank you for reporting this.
[12:25] <mikedep333> rbasak, thank you
[12:25] <rbasak> mikedep333: they're both in the US, so we probably won't get a response for a while.
[12:25] <mikedep333> yeah
[12:25] <rbasak> mikedep333: if the bug doesn't make any progress feel free to ping me.
[12:26] <mikedep333> sure
[12:26] <mikedep333> (I was about to ask in #ubuntu-server, but I figured I'd ask here 1st.)
[12:26] <rbasak> Yeah this is the right place to ask in the first instance.
[12:27] <rbasak> In this case I know who would deal with this bug, but I don't know if there's a specific LP project to file against.
[12:27] <mikedep333> right
[13:50] <mikedep333> rbasak, thanks, rcj is working on it.
[23:24] <melodie> hi
[23:24] <melodie> I hit this issue while installing Xorg: http://pastebin.fr/36642
[23:25] <melodie> I can't find my way to the entry of bug reports on the LP, am redirected to the "how to report a bug" :/
[23:31] <melodie> basically, 5 out of a handful of suggested packages can't be installed. Now it's soon time for sleeping for me and tomorrow again lots to do. so if someone wants to check it and report it as a bug he is welcome (or wants to fix the package, even better)
[23:31] <TJ-> melodie: touchfreeze was dropped from the archives after 10.04, "xfs" doesn't exist in Trusty, etc ...
[23:32] <TJ-> melodie: "firmware-linux" should be "linux-firmware"
[23:33] <melodie> TJ- this is my point, then the package needs to be fixed, there are enough of these basic errors in packages, it might be good to report or fix, as long as it does not take too long to find how to report it. really I do efforts but now I am really too tired for this.
[23:33] <TJ-> melodie: "cario-5c" was dropped before Raring was released
[23:34] <melodie> TJ- all this happens in Trusty where I am working on building a remix
[23:34] <TJ-> melodie: What package should be fixed? You - the user - asked apt-get to install those, and it tells you those packages do not exist
[23:34] <melodie> the Xorg package
[23:34] <melodie> the packages are provided as suggest
[23:34] <melodie> they should be removed and or modified in the suggest list
[23:35] <TJ-> melodie: apt-get tells you that "xserver" is a virtual package and offers a list of the packages that satisfy that
[23:35] <melodie> # apt-get install xorg
[23:35] <melodie> suggests:
[23:35] <melodie>     Suggested packages:
[23:35] <melodie>       libglide3 mesa-utils nickle cairo-5c xfs xserver xorg-docs xfonts-100dpi
[23:35] <melodie>       xfonts-75dpi gpointing-device-settings touchfreeze firmware-linux
[23:35] <melodie>       xfonts-cyrillic
[23:35] <melodie> this is the list, where I picked the package names from
[23:36] <TJ-> melodie: That isn't Trusty
[23:36] <melodie> TJ- yes, this is in Trusty, with Trusty sources.list, nothing else
[23:36] <TJ-> melodie: I checked them here for package "xorg" and it shows:
[23:36] <TJ-> Recommends: xfonts-scalable (>= 1:1.0.0-1)
[23:36] <TJ-> Suggests: xorg-docs, xfonts-100dpi (>= 1:1.0.0-1), xfonts-75dpi (>= 1:1.0.0-1)
[23:37] <TJ-> melodie: maybe some of the suggests of packages xorg brings in suggest those missing packages? Probably packages in Universe or  Multiverse
[23:37] <melodie> yes, that might be possible
[23:38] <melodie> I will deactivate universe, and multiverse and see what I get from there, hold on
[23:40] <TJ-> melodie: OK, you're correct... I've found some in main... here, I'll show the command I ran to discover them
[23:40] <melodie> yes?
[23:42] <melodie> I kept only the lines "main restricted" in the sources.list and after apt-get update and apt-get install xorg I still see the same exact suggested packages
[23:43] <TJ-> melodie: " awk '/^Package:/{P=$2} /(cairo-5c|xfs|touchfreeze|firmware-linux)$/ && P && P != $2 {printf("Packge: %s\n%s\n\n", P, $0); P=""}' /var/lib/apt/lists/*Packages  "
[23:45] <melodie> TJ- :)
[23:45] <melodie> this is very clever, too much for me I'm afraid. I have found what I told you with the apt commands
[23:45] <melodie> :)
[23:45] <TJ-> melodie: this is an improvement - it shows which files contain the entries: "awk '/^Package:/{P=$2} /(cairo-5c|xfs|touchfreeze|firmware-linux)$/ && P && P != $2 {printf("List: %s\nPackage: %s\n%s\n\n",FILENAME, P, $0); P=""}' /var/lib/apt/lists/*Packages"
[23:46] <TJ-> melodie: you should use that output in a bug report that covers all those packagse
[23:46] <melodie> TJ- I can't use your awk commands, I have no idea how to use that
[23:46] <TJ-> melodie: Paste it into a terminal, press Enter... it runs
[23:46] <melodie> TJ- if you want to check it and report it, feel free.
[23:47] <melodie> I am on 2 different machines, one for building and here for communicating
[23:47] <TJ-> melodie: You're the bug reporter not me, I'm just helping you identify the cause so you can make an intelligent report that someone can fix
[23:47] <TJ-> melodie: ssh the command over :)
[23:47] <melodie> as I told you a little earlier I am too tired for that
[23:47] <melodie> I can't ssh into a chroot
[23:47] <TJ-> I accidentially ran it on an older server running Raring initially, because I have ssh sessions open... thought I'd made a mistake there :)
[23:48] <melodie> as I tell you feel free to report it if you think you can do a good job
[23:48] <TJ-> melodie: You can't? Oh, I usually have openssh-server running for chroots to make them easier to work with :)
[23:48] <melodie> the tools used here: ubuntu builder and
[23:48] <melodie> this is a chroot in a machine just besides me
[23:49] <melodie> and I don't take more time on this, because its 2 am here and I have other things waiting for me after a short night of sleep.
[23:49] <TJ-> same here
[23:49] <melodie> too much is just too much but there are so many bugs, when I see lots of things I try to bring it to LP or if I can't at least here.
[23:50] <melodie> now I want to install xorg and whatever useful I can add and then go crash near my pillow :)
[23:50] <melodie> TJ- and thanks for answering to me. :)
[23:51] <melodie> it was kind of you
[23:57] <melodie> good night!