=== Trevinho is now known as Trevinho|holiday === m_conley is now known as m_conley_away === Ursinha is now known as Ursinha-afk === Ursinha-afk is now known as Ursinha [05:07] morning [05:27] Morning didrocks, I can only assume jetlag is involved here. :) [05:27] TheMuso: hey! a little, bit not that much, it's only 30 minutes earlier than usual :) [05:31] Oh ok. [07:30] good morning desktopers [07:31] salut seb128! [07:31] lut didrocks ;-) [07:31] * didrocks felt lonely on this channel :) [07:31] hehe, no pitti this week, so nobody early! [07:31] yep ;) [07:33] greets [07:33] morning willcooke [07:34] o/ [07:35] hey willcooke [07:35] mornin' [07:47] ha - typical. Running chromium from gdb, and it doesn't crash when I download something anymore [07:48] when it did, have you got a file in /var/crash? [07:50] didn't look tbh - quengo hooked me up with the debug build of Chromium so hopefully it will happen again soon [07:50] you can still look, if you didn't empty the dir [07:50] ah yes [07:51] there is it [07:51] it is [07:51] you can apport-unpack .crash it and use gdb on the CoreDump [07:54] I'll have a go [07:57] let me know if you need help on getting that to work [07:58] but it's basically "apport-unpack .crash dir; cd dir; gdb /usr/bin/ CoreDump" === vrruiz_ is now known as rvr === chrisccoulson_ is now known as chrisccoulson [09:47] bah, since today chromium on utopic seems to give only error pages here :/ [09:48] qengho, is there a known issue (using i386 if that makes a difference) [09:54] going for a run [09:56] didrocks, enjoy! [11:43] seb128: I'm looking into Cr broken pages. I don't see it on my amd64. [11:45] seb128: is there anything in "dmesg" about it? [11:46] qengho, [11:46] [ 8715.000510] chromium-browse[19778]: segfault at 0 ip (null) sp bff504cc error 14 in card0[a9712000+40000] [11:47] "card0". /me boggles. [11:47] seb128: thanks [11:47] qengho, errors in libv8.so as well [12:11] seb128: reproduced. Thanks. [12:11] qengho, yw! thanks for looking at it, let me know how it goes === MacSlow is now known as MacSlow|lunch === MacSlow|lunch is now known as MacSlow [13:01] gatox, hey, do you think you are going to have some cycles to look at the update panel? You still have some work you started that didn't landed, and a stack of bugs assigned to you [13:02] seb128, i know... i need to land a couple of branches of pay-ui that are almost ready, and after that i'll be working on system settings [13:02] gatox, ok, thanks [13:34] kenvandine, when you comment approve and don't change the status, that's usually because you wait for CI? [13:35] yes [13:35] but your's doesn't really need CI :) [13:35] kenvandine, e.g https://code.launchpad.net/~seb128/ubuntu-system-settings/update-label-tweaks/+merge/230264 can be toggled to accepted then? [13:35] kenvandine, can you review that one liner as well? [13:35] https://code.launchpad.net/~seb128/ubuntu-system-settings/update-ubuntushaped-icons/+merge/230285 [13:36] done [13:36] kenvandine, thanks [13:36] kenvandine, I guess we have enough to do another landing ;-) [13:38] seb128, not yet :) [13:38] i have 2 more branches i want to land this morning :) [13:38] reviewing now [13:39] more dual sim related branches, nice to finally have passing CI :) [13:40] just takes a little more time for manual testing [13:42] kenvandine, I'm wondering if I'm having another toolkit issue :-( [13:42] uh oh [13:42] what's that? [13:42] in the updates panel, the list of updates is not correctly aligned on the "install updates" button [13:43] the list has a "anchors.top: installAllButton.visible ? installAllButton.bottom : parent.top" [13:43] if I change that to be ""anchors.top: installAllButton.bottom" [13:43] which should be the same when installAllButton.visible = true [13:43] there is no gap! [13:44] it's like the listview content was not properly starting at the top for some reason when there is a change [13:45] is the listview contentHeight set? [13:45] yes [13:45] contentHeight: contentItem.childrenRect.height [13:48] willcooke, seb128 anything interesting happening with Unity 8 desktop image yet? [13:48] can sabdfl launch apps and stuff like that yet? [13:48] rickspencer3, define "interesting" [13:49] :) [13:49] seb128, interesting == I can run some apps [13:49] rickspencer3, it has daily builds [13:49] rickspencer3, you can launch, e.g., gedit [13:49] what about Touch apps? [13:49] willcooke, you need manual tweaks for that [13:49] seb128, what could one do if they installed the daily image? [13:49] rickspencer3, you can run/install it, run our core apps (like webbrowser, gallery, phone apps in the sidebar) [13:50] rickspencer3, you can add an u1 account and install clicks from the store and run those [13:50] well [13:50] need to apt-get install qt5-defaults for that to work [13:50] I emailed ubuntu-devel@ about the qt4 being default issue, but didn't get any traction from our qt guys [13:50] not sure how to get things moving there :/ [13:50] seb128, well, I suppose focus on the phone customer right now is probably pretty distracting for them :/ [13:51] yes [13:51] just saying, the desktop image is not very "interesting" because focus is on rtm [13:51] and we don't get much traction to have people looking at our issues [13:51] seb128, maybe try pinging pmcgowan_ again, I think things may be loosening up [13:51] k [13:51] willcooke, ^ [13:51] ack [13:52] seb128, does anything run in the main stage yet? [13:52] and do other Qt and Gtk apps run at all? [13:53] rickspencer3, the apps I listed before run in the main view [13:53] webbrowser [13:53] gallery [13:53] camera IIRC [13:53] Qt5 apps should run just fine [13:53] Gtk apps, we landed the Mir backend in utopic [13:53] you need to tweak the .desktop to have them listed in the dash though [13:54] I can run gedit from stock utopic with a .desktop hack [13:54] but input is not working [13:54] nor are menus and other stuff [13:54] mir is limited [13:56] willcooke, seb128 can you guys paste me a link to the image that I can pass on to sabdfl [13:56] and if there is a wiki, etc... for pointers to get rocking, that would be nice too [13:56] rickspencer3, http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-desktop-next/daily-live/ [13:56] rickspencer3, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Unity8DesktopIso [13:57] rickspencer3, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/unity8-desktop-session [13:57] (the blueprint is referenced from the wiki as well) === m_conley_away is now known as m_conley === Ursinha is now known as Ursinha-afk [14:40] hey seb128 - whats the model number of that touch screen HP laptop? [14:40] think I should get me some new hardware [14:41] willcooke, hp? [14:41] willcooke, the one I had in China was a Dell [14:41] Dell, HP - whatevs ;) [14:41] inspiron 11 3000 serie [14:41] http://www.dell.com/us/p/inspiron-11-3137/pd [14:42] or http://www.dell.com/us/p/inspiron-11-3147-laptop/pd [14:42] seems to be the new serie [14:43] the one I have is a 3137 === Ursinha-afk is now known as Ursinha === gatox is now known as gatox_lunch [14:49] ordered, thx seb128 [14:49] willcooke, yw! [14:49] seb128, do you know if it's a standard laptop hdd? [14:49] like, I dont have to order a "slim" replacement or anything [14:50] going to order a cheapo sdd [14:50] I don't know, sorry [14:50] I'll take a punt on it, I reckon it will be [14:50] actually - google [14:52] seems to be "9.5MM, 2.5"" [14:52] perfect, thanks seb128 [14:52] yw! [14:53] willcooke, http://www.myfixguide.com/manual/dell-inspiron-11-3147-disassembly/ [14:54] has a guide on how to get to the disk with a photo of it [15:08] bregma: hi! are there known bugs on multimonitor with unity7 on utopic? [15:12] thx seb128 [15:12] yw! [15:16] jdstrand: There are some issues, yes. Do you have a specific issue in mind? [15:19] ChrisTownsend: today I hotplugged my external monitor into my vga port on my thinkpad x201s (intel). I have it setup to turn off the laptop display and use the external. the external came up, but unity did not adjust the size and was frozen [15:19] ChrisTownsend: I had to stop lightdm. I then tried to login and when I did, all I had was the launcher and an empty panel. nautilus did not even come up [15:20] ChrisTownsend: I'm happy to file a bug or add info to an existing one [15:20] jdstrand: Hmm, nothing we've touched in that area recently. [15:21] ChrisTownsend: I haven't plugged into this monitor much since upgrading to utopic a couple of weeks ago [15:21] when I upgraded to utopic, I has plugged into it [15:22] then I hot unplugged and it crashed with similar symptoms [15:22] jdstrand: Hmm, sounds like some config got screwed up, but not sure what. Please file a bug and I'll give it some attention. [15:22] ChrisTownsend: ack, thanks. against 'unity'? [15:23] jdstrand: Could also be a graphics driver issue that is freaking out Unity. [15:23] jdstrand: Yeah, unity is fine. I'll change it if necessary. [15:23] ok, thanks [15:23] it'll be a bit, I need to step into a meeting [15:23] jdstrand: I've been noticing some other weirdness wrt to drivers, so maybe related. [15:23] jdstrand: No worries, I'll look for it. [15:30] hum, meeting it is! [15:30] seb128, didrocks, attente_ qengho - it's meeting time in 5....4.....3.....2......1..... now! Who'd I miss? [15:30] curse you seb128 [15:30] lol [15:30] you beat me [15:30] ahah [15:30] the indicator popped up a notification ;-) [15:30] :) [15:31] willcooke, is tkamppeter off this week? [15:31] morning guys [15:31] not sure if you missed him in the list or if he's on vac [15:31] seb128, kinda - he's a the Open Printing summit [15:31] k [15:31] so list looks good to me [15:31] waow, short list, will be a short meeting :) [15:31] FJKong might still be around/wanting to should [15:31] to join [15:31] and happyaron [15:31] seb128: here [15:31] happyaron stops earlier than that [15:32] it's 11pm for them [15:32] hey FJKong [15:32] hey willcooke [15:32] hey FJKong ;-) [15:32] FJKong is a night owl :D [15:32] hey brookswarner [15:32] FJKong: young coders :p [15:32] welcome back willcooke [15:32] lol, I am a night bird [15:32] folks, brookswarner is the EM for Sustaining Engineering [15:33] glad to hear you had a successful trip [15:33] hello everyone [15:33] hey dgadomski [15:33] hey dgadomski [15:33] welcome aboard [15:33] thanks willcooke [15:33] thanks! :) [15:33] i been lurking for months but don't say much [15:33] Right - let's get this show on the road.... [15:33] dgadomski, is Daruisz I guess? [15:33] hey dgadomski [15:33] seb128, correct [15:33] oh [15:33] dgadomski, welcome on board! [15:33] yes, it's Dariusz [15:33] before we syaty [15:34] start [15:34] hey dgadomski [15:34] didrocks and I were just on the Community Team hangout [15:34] willcooke, you might want to add him to the roundtable list then [15:34] willcooke, didrocks: how did it go? [15:35] it was good. We talked about the work that didrocks is doing on the dev desktop [15:35] seb128: was fun, as usual. It seems the dev desktop has quite a bit of traction/interests [15:35] it was a very quick intro, once didrocks is back from hols we'll publish it more [15:35] right - let's get started then [15:35] seb128 you first? [15:35] didrocks, nice ;-) [15:35] k [15:35] was in China for a week, back since yesterday. Quite some good discussions with the people working on Kylin, also about input methods in Ubuntu (using fcitx for Chinese) [15:35] • ubuntu-system-settings bugsfixing, worked on [15:35] ∘ text not smooth on the charge graph [15:35] ∘ rotation not being handled correctly on the same widget [15:35] ∘ error labels not wrapping as they should [15:35] ∘ the apps list using rectangle icon rather than ubuntushaped ones [15:36] • review u-s-s changes for others [15:36] • some bugs triaging [15:36] • reviewed a SRU change for precise [15:36] • reviewed and approved didrock's udtc [15:36] [15:36] (the first item is missing its dot, copy error) [15:36] seb128, do we want to talk more about fcitx now, or will we wait until next UOS? [15:37] willcooke, next UOS is not good for this cycle, we are going to use mailing lists rather [15:37] ok, great [15:37] I plan to email ubuntu-devel@ once the support for it lands [15:37] call for testing, etc [15:37] that will be an interesting discussion [15:37] yeah [15:37] well, we add support for it [15:37] and plan to make it default only for Chinese this cycle [15:37] assuming the feedback is good [15:37] if not we can revert to ibus for Chinese as well [15:38] cool, seb128 are you blocked on anything/anyone? [15:38] that's a question for attente, he's doing the work [15:38] I mean in general [15:38] he still had a few bugs he wanted to sort out before landing [15:38] * happyaron arrives... [15:38] hey happyaron [15:38] happyaron, \o/ [15:38] happyaron, hey [15:39] hey everyone, :) [15:39] happyaron, 你好 [15:39] ;-) [15:39] evening happyaron :) [15:39] great [15:39] happyaron: hello qin [15:39] ok, then let's move on to attente_ then since we're sorta talking about him - how was your week? [15:39] FJKong: ... [15:39] attente_, find your wallet yet? ;) [15:40] bah, who needs it :) [15:40] that's an under the belt one! [15:40] lol [15:40] \o/ [15:40] * seb128 gives a yellow card to willcooke [15:40] ;-) [15:40] XD [15:40] not much to report, i was trying last week to do the alternate fcitx transition work, but we decided to move forward on the approach in the ppa [15:41] and some small tweaks to system settings language panel, thanks seb128 for review [15:41] attente_, thanks for the changes! [15:41] ok, attente_ you need anything from anyone? [15:42] nah, not at the moment [15:42] cool [15:42] didrocks, your go... [15:42] /!\ long report (covering last couple of weeks as no meeting) [15:42] * Travelling to Guadec and China, lot of good discussions with people working on Kylin and GNOME ones. But that didn't stop to cover the following during those 2 weeks: [15:42] * Ubuntu Developer Tools Center itself is now in utopic \o/ Support android-studio for now. [15:42] * Updated ubuntu developer tools center dependencies in utopic, adding python3 flavors for argcomplete, packaged and uploaded nose-cov. [15:42] * Packaging, integrate git buildpackage and shell completion support. [15:42] * For trusty, created ubuntu-developer-tools-center ppa with all required dependencies that aren't high enough/doesn't meet python3 requirements (https://launchpad.net/~didrocks/+archive/ubuntu/ubuntu-developer-tools-center). [15:43] * Hooked up pep8 and small tests to autopkgtests. Will need pitti's expertise to add network-linked tests as autopkgtests (medium and large tests). [15:43] * pep8 and small tests running automatically on each commit to master. [15:43] * Setup translations and import in launchpad. Completely translated to French (random pick ;)) [15:43] * Run all integration tests in a docker container now as medium tests + add some additional tests like wrong md5sum and certificates. There is no difference in term of code in large and medium tests: the only difference is medium tests are using a fake network, fake local packages, and a base docker container (isolated from the hosts system). [15:43] * More tweaks on the docker ubuntu image and fighting in setup to have tests passing in this fake desktop env (a lot of wrapper and grumbling may have happened). [15:43] * Rename binary itself to udtc and adapt tests + local provider to it. We can now run any tests against the local binary and library or the installed system ones, and with or without any virtualenv environment. [15:43] * Machine with a daily trusty setup, need to run the tests against a real system daily from it and report results. [15:43] * Add more tests, code cleanup, test speed optimization (14 medium tests were taking 464s and they are now at 109s) and misc bug fixes (md5sum, certificates support, download races, launcher in non existing xdg dir, apt cache refresh, switch as root…). We are now at 279 tests in total! [15:43] EOW(s) [15:43] blimes! [15:43] just that? [15:43] tried to DDOS your connection :p [15:44] you know… because of fiber here ;) [15:44] * seb128 points didrocks to pastebin [15:44] surely thats a yellow card referee? [15:44] indeed is [15:44] seb128 likes giving points :p [15:45] didrocks, you need anything from anyone before your holiday? [15:45] train on time from the SNCF [15:45] but that's it :) [15:45] didrocks, when are you off? tomorrow evening or thursday? [15:45] thursday evening [15:45] k [15:45] will be back on the 27th [15:45] happy trails didrocks [15:45] do you have some free slots before that? [15:45] thanks ;) [15:46] seb128: I can postpone what I want to do if needed [15:46] why? anything I can help with? [15:46] happyaron is opening MIRs for fcitx, it would be nice if you could maybe look at some before your holidays [15:46] sure [15:46] will it be opened before our tomorrow? [15:46] because that needs to land for FF and you know how it is to find reviewers [15:46] happyaron ^? [15:46] so that we can get some cycle back-and-force if needed [15:46] yeah, I know ;) [15:46] didrocks, thanks [15:46] yw! [15:46] didrocks: after my getting up again, :) [15:47] happyaron: as long as it's ready before my getting up, that's awesome [15:47] happyaron: I'll ping you directly on IRC to speed up the process, just assign it to me [15:47] (the bug) [15:47] ok [15:47] thx! [15:48] ok, qengho - you around? Anything to report? [15:48] Hey hey. [15:48] * in-progress: x86-utopic crasher. [15:48] * in-progress: mir support for chromium-browser/ozone. [15:48] * in-progress: Fl*sh plugin for partners repo. [15:48] willcooke: I don't know if that's the problem you saw. [15:48] #1 [15:49] could be, have you got a bug number handy? I've been running via gdb all day, not crashes so far [15:49] oh wait [15:49] I'm not running U :/ [15:49] meh [15:49] I haven't filed a bug report yet. [15:50] I'll see if I can get it to crash and let you know [15:50] any progress with v36? [15:50] willcooke: v36 is uploaded. [15:51] woot! [15:51] sorry, I must have missed that [15:51] \o/ [15:51] sweet [15:51] congrats qengho [15:51] and thanks [15:51] qengho, is the x86 "not working" specific to utopic? [15:51] I should have lead with that. [15:51] or does it happen in all series? [15:52] seb128: I have only heard of problems in U. T and earlier had the update last week, so I think I would have heard. [15:52] k [15:52] good [15:53] qengho, need anything from anyone? Blocked on anything? [15:54] Nope. I'm blocked on understanding mir, but I can fix that. [15:54] :D [15:54] ok, let's go to happyaron and FJKong so they can get to bed :) happyaron how was your week? [15:56] or maybe FJKong ? [15:56] fix bugs of sogou input method, prepare to release 1.1 version [15:56] meeting with NUDT at ChangSha [15:56] that's all maybe [15:56] FJKong, cool - do you need anything from anyone? [15:57] not yet now, maybe some days later [15:57] ok, let me know and we'll get you sorted out [15:57] after new version release [15:57] line dropped.. [15:57] :) [15:57] happyaron, how was your week? === gatox_lunch is now known as gatox [15:59] willcooke: a tiring week, mostly spent on talking to people everywhere, and merged ibus for two upstream releases, plan with attente_ on the fcitx transition [15:59] :) [16:00] happyaron, are you blocked on anything (not including the fcitx work which is on going) [16:00] think no [16:00] kk [16:00] happyaron, about the patch you made to fcitx, we might have to revert it... [16:01] attente_: you have changed the plan, right? :) [16:01] happyaron, lol, don't worry :P [16:02] happyaron, it removes the /keyboard object path from the fcitx dbus service, is that what we wanted? [16:03] attente_: so it does not handle keyboard anymore [16:03] happyaron, this is fine, it's just that we wanted to disable the fcitx switching shortcut [16:04] in the ppa is a unity-control-center that filters out the keyboard layout engines that fcitx provides, so we don't have to worry about that problem [16:04] ok [16:05] i hope i'm not misunderstanding what the patch is meant to do happyaron [16:05] if i'm wrong please correct me [16:07] it just disables whatever related to xkb handling in fcitx, so that if we switched keyboard layout in u-s-d, it won't be reset by fcitx [16:08] let's take this to the side once the meeting is over. [16:08] ok, so brookswarner or dgadomski - you guys have anything for us? Questions etc? [16:08] no questions yet from me, I just wanted to thank you for welcoming me and I look forward to working with you! [16:08] i dont today willcooke [16:08] thank you [16:08] coolio [16:08] happyaron, oh, i guess i did misunderstand after all [16:08] any other business? [16:08] not from me at least [16:08] happyaron, ok, don't revert it [16:09] we can continue the fcitx discussion off meeting [16:09] nothing from me as well [16:09] i have a swap day today, so i might take some time off in the afternoon to get my wallet stuff resolved [16:09] day off fail attente_ [16:09] attente_, good luck with that [16:10] attente_, btw let me know when you think the ppa is ready for optin for xkb users [16:10] ok - that's a wrap. Thanks all - until next week.... [16:10] it shouldn't affect xkb users in the slightest [16:10] attente_: k [16:10] it's literally the bare minimum we need to get fcitx integration in the stack [16:11] willcooke, thanks [16:11] thanks! [16:11] attente_, k, said differently ... tell me when you can user testers, or/and if you need sponsoring [16:12] seb128, thanks, could use some reviews for https://code.launchpad.net/~attente/indicator-keyboard/fcitx-transition/+merge/229737 and https://code.launchpad.net/~attente/unity-settings-daemon/fcitx-transition [16:13] er, second one is https://code.launchpad.net/~attente/unity-settings-daemon/fcitx-transition/+merge/230289 [16:13] attente_, k, on my list for tomorrow [16:14] seb128, thanks [16:16] yw! [16:27] attente_, i ran into merge conflicts when adding your 2 settings branches to a silo [16:27] attente_, can you make sure they merge with trunk cleanly? [16:35] kenvandine, sure [16:36] attente_, thx... the both had conflicts, even separately in the silo [16:36] i removed them for now, but can add them again in a bit [16:37] kenvandine, this is kind of strange, i'm not seeing the conflicts [16:37] hummm [16:37] they're the u-s-s branches called language-use-gsettings-qt and 1352398 [16:37] ? [16:39] 1352398 depends on language-use-gsettings-qt if that might have some affect [16:39] *effect [16:43] kenvandine, weird, we didn't change that panel for a while afaik [16:43] yeah... weird [16:43] kenvandine, in what file do you get conflicts? [16:44] Text conflict in plugins/language/language-plugin.h [16:44] oh [16:44] lp:~jpakkane/ubuntu-system-settings/cleanups [16:44] that caused the conflict [16:44] oh, right [16:44] can you rather drop that one? [16:44] ok... let me get this built first [16:44] the other ones are missing features/fixes that need to land [16:45] will do [16:45] thanks [16:45] attente_, ^ no need to do anything from your side [16:45] we can ask Jussi to rebase once the other ones land [16:47] cool thanks! === alan_g is now known as alan_g|EOD [17:12] ZOMG! [17:12] Check it: [17:12] Copy some text to your clipboard [17:12] in Chromium middle click on the new new tab icon [17:23] neat [17:23] indeed [17:37] hrm [17:37] seb128, do we make .torrents available for iso downloads any more? [17:37] more specifically, the Desktop next image === JanC_ is now known as JanC === m_conley is now known as m_conley_away [22:49] Hi I am having a very difficult time getting Ubuntu installed and just working right. Is this the place to get help?