[00:55] <dmfrey> tgm4883, you around?
[02:05] <bregol> In mythbuntu-control-center, with MythWeb enabled... I drop down password to Enable and try to set a password. I get a dbus exception.   http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/8022624/
[11:19] <enyc> superm1, tgm4883: Thankyou for all the helpful pointers and comments, I have a lot of compiles of  mythtv-fixes-0.25 (+basic lzo securityfix) mythtv-fixes-0.27  on  trusty-armhf wheezy-i386 wheezy-amd64 wheezy-armel wheezy-armhf wheezy-rpi   going =) .   Also, for all arm/rpi variants I have an extra variant trying to enable OpenGL...  All outputs being logged so I will see where it gets to =).
[14:44] <superm1> enyc: great! did you need code changes?  or just packaging changes?
[14:45] <enyc> superm1: not sure yet, its' back at college with 20 different compile windows!  I will find out eventually.
[14:45] <superm1> enyc: ah
[14:46] <enyc> superm1: 0.27 from precise  gave compile errors on my wheezy-arm* variants  but now I know I should be using  mythtv-fixes-0.2?  instead... we will see
[14:47] <enyc> superm1: What can you tell me about co-existance of  upstart  and  sysvinit   start scripts --  I.e. to make package/builds work on  Wheezy  and  Precise/Trusty...   AIUI only  newer debian/ubuntu will have systemd
[14:48] <superm1> enyc: i thought dh_installinit should handle it
[14:48] <enyc> I've got/getting  Raspberry_Pi, Banana_Pi, Hummingboard,   so it will benefit a lot of people  if I have at least  one-off  0.27.3  builds that work on these as best as possible  and we get any compile-flags etc.
[14:48] <superm1> but i'm not absolutely poitive
[14:50] <superm1> ah nice
[14:50] <enyc> superm1: Do you know of anybody (e.g. with manual compiles, not the package??) who has OpenGL-ES working (i.e. ARM etc.)
[14:50] <superm1> i'm not sure
[14:50] <superm1> the guys in #mythtv might have
[14:50] <superm1> i think janne did, but he's left the project
[14:56] <enyc> I see =)
[14:57] <enyc> AIUI we shouldn't probably need any special build-deps or configure flags, it should just take on OpenGL-ES when built on ARM... we will see =)...
[14:58] <enyc> superm1: What, do you think I should need to do in the source, to add support for Traditional sysvinit starting neatly (i.e. for Debian Wheezy, raspbian, etc...) ?
[14:59] <superm1> enyc: add a debian/mythtv-backend.init i think
[14:59] <superm1> and that should be enough
[14:59] <enyc> superm1: clearly the   sysvinit/upstart  will need to be 'changed' for   systemd  in  'new versions'  but that isn't there yet
[14:59] <enyc> superm1: am I correct in saying that   MythTV 0.25-fixes  is 'dead' ?
[14:59] <superm1> enyc: yeah
[14:59] <superm1> don't bother with it
[15:00] <superm1> upstream only cares about master, n and n-1
[15:00] <enyc> superm1: this does, leave a security-hole with the LZO vulnerability on  Precise-LTS  ...
[15:03] <enyc> It (looks like) 0.25 to 0.27 upgrade is a matter of updating backend and running mythfilldatabase,  then update all the frontends ...
[15:03] <enyc> In terms of my Testing  I have the option to  join an existing 0.25 system for a bit ...  then can sort out update to 0.27.3 ... o well
[15:06] <superm1> yeah to upgrade that's all you have to do
[16:49] <enyc> o wonderful, it looks like there are deb-multimedia and other versions/revisions of this myth-0.27-fixed stuff  but little testing-on-arm hrrm
[17:17] <tgm4883> enyc: there don't appear to be that many arm users out there for mythtv
[17:17] <tgm4883> then again, there don't appear to be that many debian users for mythtv either
[18:16] <enyc> tgm4883: hrrm ... I have objectives to  sort-out  what can be sorted r.e.  amalgamating vaious duplicate efforts,   testing  OpenGL-ES-2.0 build,  hopefully supplying support for sysvinit,  and providing some builds across (trusty-armhf and wheezy-arm* wheezy-x86*)   so that all can benefit.
[18:16] <enyc> tgm4883: reliable DD in the office tells me that we should be able to just add a sysv init and it will work on wheezy and not override the upstart ubuntu script etc.
[18:18] <enyc> tgm4883: in any case once building / configure-finding-opengl related fun is sorted, I can then do some actual *testing* on real ARM gadgetry =)
[21:51] <enyc> Hrrrm!!  Interestingly, MythTV GL ES 2.0 function does compile but have to manually add  libgles2-mesa-dev  hrrm