[05:31] <bduk> More almal
[05:39] <nuvolari> môre bduk 
[05:39] <nuvolari> hi mazal 
[05:39]  * nuvolari :'(
[05:40] <nuvolari> RIP Robin Williams
[05:41] <mazal> Morning everyone
[05:43] <mazal> Sad news that
[05:58] <bduk> didn't know him
[06:16] <ThatGraemeGuy> morning all
[06:26] <nuvolari> oh hi ThatGraemeGuy 
[06:26] <nuvolari> o.O bduk are you sure?
[06:26] <nuvolari> Jumanji, Mrs Doubtfire
[06:26] <nuvolari> Dead Poets Society
[06:27] <ThatGraemeGuy> bduk must be an alien
[06:27] <nuvolari> bicentennial man
[06:27] <ThatGraemeGuy> welcome to Earth bduk
[06:27] <nuvolari> lol
[06:27] <nuvolari> welcome indeed
[07:28] <charl> good morning
[07:28] <charl> hi bduk, nuvolari, mazal, ThatGraemeGuy 
[07:28] <charl> Maaz: coffee on
[07:28]  * Maaz puts the kettle on
[07:31] <ThatGraemeGuy> hey charl
[07:31] <nuvolari> Maaz: coffee please
[07:31] <Maaz> nuvolari: Yessir
[07:32] <Maaz> Coffee's ready for charl and nuvolari!
[07:34] <nuvolari> Maaz thanks
[07:34] <Maaz> nuvolari: Okay :-)
[07:34] <ThatGraemeGuy> Maaz: a bloody mary please, and don't be shy with the tabasco
[07:34] <Maaz> ThatGraemeGuy: What?
[07:35] <ThatGraemeGuy> Maaz: What ain't no country I ever heard of. They speak English in What?
[07:35] <Maaz> ThatGraemeGuy: Excuse me?
[07:37] <ThatGraemeGuy> ha
[07:37] <ThatGraemeGuy> Maaz: you are excused, don't let it happen again
[07:37] <Maaz> ThatGraemeGuy: I already know stuff about you
[07:37] <ThatGraemeGuy> morning Kilos 
[07:37] <Kilos> hi ThatGraemeGuy  superfly  and others
[07:38] <Kilos> haha the bot giving you cheek
[07:42] <Kilos> hi inetpro  mazal  char
[07:42] <Kilos> hmm...
[07:42] <Kilos> charl  
[07:52] <charl> hi Kilos 
[07:55] <mazal> Morning all I haven't seen yet
[07:55] <mazal> I'm struggling to understand something
[07:55] <mazal> If I run an app in terminal , it runs fines
[07:56] <mazal> If I run in in terminal with gnome-terminal -e command , then the resulting terminal that opens says it can't find the app
[07:57] <mazal> Is it something to do with paths ? 
[07:57] <Kilos> not permissions?
[07:57] <Kilos> what app is it?
[07:57] <mazal> If it was permissions in won't work if I run it just as is
[07:58] <Kilos> what happens when you type the app name in dash
[07:58] <mazal> Is just when I add the gnome-terminal -e command in front that it can't find it ( I add that in front to open it in a new terminal )
[07:59] <mazal> So I am puzzled , if it was paths , then it should also not work without the gnome-terminal part ?
[07:59] <Kilos> eish
[08:04] <mazal> I even tried now sommer with s cript I quickly created , same problem
[08:05] <mazal> gnome-terminal -e open the new terminal , but then that terminal reports that it can't fine the file
[08:08] <Kilos> so its the open new terminal add in that stops it working
[08:09] <mazal> Yep , saying it can't find the file. I'm playing now with full paths to see. Maybe second terminal don't know what folder I am standing in
[08:09] <Kilos> if its important then just ctrl+alt+t and put your command in that new terminal you opened
[08:13] <Kilos> hi Spekko  
[08:15] <mazal> Ah , adding full paths works. Hmm interesting , so the second terminal doesn't see in what folder I am standing
[08:16] <mazal> Oom Kilos , eventually this must happen via crontab
[08:17] <mazal> Basically what I want , when cron runs one of my scripts I want a terminal to pup up and show me what's it doing
[08:17] <Kilos> eish 
[08:17] <Kilos> you and crontab
[08:17] <mazal> My cron is sharp now :)
[08:17] <Kilos> lol
[08:18] <mazal> Now I just want to see what happens when it happens. Not very important this part , just something I would like to get right
[08:19] <mazal> aaaand it doesn't work with cron :( Back to drawing board
[08:26] <mazal> Ag nee hy wil niks weetie
[08:27] <mazal> I can never get why some command don't work in cron but works manually in terminal
[08:29] <Kilos> maybe one of the clever guys can help
[08:32] <ThatGraemeGuy> you can't make cron pop up a terminal
[08:32] <ThatGraemeGuy> you can log its output to file or have it email you
[08:35] <mazal> Ok kewl
[08:35] <mazal> Is not very important , would have been nice though
[09:43] <inetpro> good mornings
[10:09] <ThatGraemeGuy> lo
[10:51] <Kilos> hi inetpro  
[10:56] <Kilos> hmm...
[10:56] <Kilos> http://mybroadband.co.za/news/adsl/107752-telkom-uncapped-adsl-usage-warning.html
[11:00] <mazal> ThatGraemeGuy, I was away a bit , so cron can runs scripts , but can't open apps ? Isn't gnome-terminal an app ?
[11:03] <ThatGraemeGuy> ok maybe "can't" isn't the right term. how about "nooooo, don't do that, whyyyy??!!"
[11:04] <ThatGraemeGuy> :-p
[11:04] <inetpro> ai!
[11:04] <mazal> Just trying to understand it
[11:04] <inetpro> 06/08 10:59:50 <charl> mazal: no 2>&1 appends stderr to stdout
[11:04] <inetpro> 06/08 10:59:59 <charl> mazal: then you still need >> to append to a log file
[11:05] <mazal> inetpro, I wanted to see in real time , I know the logs way
[11:05] <ThatGraemeGuy> mazal: yeah and i'm trying to understand why you repeatedly disregard our advice to log output to a log file like we said a dozen times
[11:05] <inetpro> tail -f logfile
[11:05] <mazal> Who said I am not logging output ?
[11:05] <ThatGraemeGuy> this is how we, the people that do this stuff for money, do it
[11:06] <ThatGraemeGuy> meh, ok then read the output
[11:06] <ThatGraemeGuy> tail the log for that real-time feeling
[11:06] <mazal> All I said , I wanted to see in real time when it runs , as it was interesting thought to me
[11:06] <mazal> Then you said I can't
[11:06] <inetpro> mazal: man tail
[11:06] <mazal> Then I just asked why so that I can understand it
[11:06] <ThatGraemeGuy> watch -n 1 "ps -ef|grep scriptname"
[11:06] <ThatGraemeGuy> there you can see in realtime when it runs
[11:06] <mazal> Stop jumping on me every time I just ask something
[11:07] <ThatGraemeGuy> heh
[11:07] <ThatGraemeGuy> cool
[11:07]  * ThatGraemeGuy shuts the fuck up
[11:12] <inetpro> hmm...
[11:24] <Kilos> Maaz  coffee on
[11:24]  * Maaz puts the kettle on
[11:28] <Maaz> Coffee's ready for Kilos!
[11:35] <Kilos> Maaz  thanks man
[11:35] <Maaz> Kilos It gives me great pleasure to serve a bunch of geeks :-)
[11:35] <Kilos> hmm...
[11:36]  * Kilos looks around and sees no bunch of geeks so sips cyber coffee all alone
[11:37] <Kilos> ohi superfly  
[12:08] <superfly> hi Kilos
[12:21] <superfly> Kilos: when's the next Ubuntu meeting?
[12:22] <Kilos> 36th superfly  
[12:22] <Kilos> 26th
[12:22] <Kilos> you got something interesting for us again?
[12:22] <Kilos> we need new stuff
[12:24] <superfly> Kilos: nah, kmf was asking
[12:24] <Kilos> ah
[13:29] <Kilos> i saw he was planning a software freedom day maybe he wants to come invite us
[15:44] <Kilos> hi Vince-0  Xethron  
[15:44] <Vince-0> hii
[16:49] <charl> good evening Kilos 
[17:21] <Kilos> hi charl  
[17:33] <magespawn> good evening
[17:42] <Kilos> hi my magespawn  
[17:42] <Kilos> konversation didnt pling when you logged in or maybe i was eating
[17:44] <magespawn> hey Kilos
[18:02] <charl> hi magespawn 
[18:11] <magespawn> hey charl
[20:20] <alphaG> hi
[20:28] <SilverCode> ARGH!
[20:29] <SilverCode> even in modern crypto currency times banks/exchanges can't sort themselves out