[00:01] <nooblesoup> Hello?
[00:02] <nooblesoup> Is anyone here?
[00:02] <daftykins> yes?
[00:02] <daftykins> ask your question
[00:02] <quantibility> eh, in spirit
[00:03] <nooblesoup> Is there an Ubuntu with similar packages pre-installed to Kali Linux?
[00:05] <daftykins> nooblesoup: no
[00:05] <navetz> hey guys. I'm running ubuntu 14.04 and anytime I open a program I get this in the command line: Gtk-WARNING **: Unable to locate theme engine in module_path: "oxygen-gtk"
[00:05] <jlim> wtf 14.04.1 and still bluetooth headset not working!!!!!!??????!!!!!!!?????
[00:05] <navetz> How can I solve this?
[00:06] <daftykins> navetz: you're running GUI programs from a terminal? why
[00:06] <jlim> what is going on with 14.04 lts and bluetooth not working?>????!!!!
[00:06] <navetz> daftykins, to see why things keep crashing. This is the error I get when I run them from the terminal
[00:07] <daftykins> navetz: you didn't mention that
[00:07] <jlim> 14.04 is still beta then leave at beta!!!!
[00:07] <jlim> wtf
[00:07] <daftykins> jlim: it's not beta, just because you as one person can't get *your* bluetooth working doesn't mean it needs more work
[00:08] <jlim> bluetooth always worked until 14.04
[00:08] <navetz> daftykins, ah sorry thought i gave enough info with the error message, any idea what's going on/
[00:08] <eeee_> navetz: try sudo apt-get install gtk2-engines-oxygen
[00:08] <daftykins> jlim: go back to 12.04.5 then
[00:08] <jlim> i should have to figure out how to make it work.. it is supposed to already work!!!
[00:09] <jlim> shouldn't*
[00:09] <daftykins> jlim: stop complaining or you won't get any assistance
[00:09] <jlim> that doesn't work either
[00:09] <navetz> daftykins, error message gone! thanks that's been a problem for a while
[00:09] <jlim> daftykins: the installer does not have my video driver supported
[00:09] <jlim> have to go back to 14.04.1
[00:10] <daftykins> navetz: actually it was eeee_ that helped you ;)
[00:10] <jlim> because ubuntu is not supporting .2 .3 and .4
[00:10] <jlim> unbelievable
[00:10] <daftykins> jlim: what are you talking about .2 .3 and .4?
[00:10] <jlim> ubuntu is really swirling down the bowl
[00:11] <jlim> they are not supporting the hardware stack on .2 .3 .4
[00:11] <jlim> only .1 and .5 is supporte3d
[00:11] <navetz> daftykins, ahh whoops, eeee_  thanks for the help! Oh man all of my programs look old and ugly now haha
[00:11] <jlim> terrible
[00:12] <daftykins> jlim: you're chatting utter rubbish
[00:12] <eeee_> navetz: np
[00:12] <jlim> oh yeah?
[00:12] <eeee_> jlim: i agree with daftykins
[00:12] <jlim> try installing .5 on something
[00:13] <daftykins> you can run 12.04.5 with the 3.2.0 kernel or you can run the trusty HWE
[00:13] <daftykins> fail to see the issue here
[00:13] <daftykins> jlim: you say 12.04.x doesn't come with graphics drivers... sooo install them? really i fail to see how you're creating an issue for yourself
[00:13] <navetz> eeee_, is there any way I could switch from using gtk2-engines-oxygen to whatever 14.04 is suppose to use?
[00:14] <navetz> eeee_, I've been upgrading the same system for years so I think some stuff is still left behind
[00:16] <dawu> OK. Just updated to ubuntu 14.04 today.. and having an issue trying to get my dual monitors working.. when i use the gui settings it blacks out one screen, and when i use xrandr command to move my screen left of primary monitor it returns a fatal error and says missing 11 resources....
[00:16] <daftykins> dawu: pastebin /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[00:16] <eeee_> navetz: not sure, try sudo apt-get install gtk3-engines-oxygen
[00:16] <navetz> eeee_, thanks
[00:17] <dawu> ok, hold on a sec please
[00:18] <jlim> they give an option to upgrade the hardware stack from .4 .5 but the upgrade fails
[00:18] <jlim> lol
[00:18] <eeee_> navetz: what dm are you using ?
[00:19] <jlim> so i got wipe everything and load 12.04.1
[00:19] <navetz> eeee_, what's a dm?
[00:19] <daftykins> jlim: .1 is EOL, you shouldn't run EOL.
[00:19] <navetz> desktop manager?
[00:19] <jlim> why?
[00:19] <jlim> what is EOL?
[00:20] <eeee_> sorry, de, desktop environment, like lxde, xfce, unity, etc.
[00:20] <eeee_> ( @ navetz )
[00:20] <jlim> i am loading it now because it is the only lts version the currently works
[00:20] <navetz> eeee_, ahh unity
[00:20] <jlim> daftykins: what is EOL?
[00:21] <daftykins> !eol
[00:21] <jlim> !eol
[00:21] <daftykins> jlim: the bot trigger message is already above, you don't type it again.
[00:21] <daftykins> what makes you think you have to type the same thing 0o
[00:21] <jlim> how lts have eol?
[00:21] <daftykins> because you need to be updated to .5
[00:21] <jlim> lts is supposed to be 5 years
[00:22] <daftykins> all this info is available online
[00:22] <daftykins> yes and only updated installs are supported
[00:22] <jlim> .5 will not load
[00:22] <daftykins> ok so explain why this is
[00:22] <jlim> the installer is screwed
[00:22] <daftykins> no it's not, it works for everyone else
[00:22] <dawu> wow, i ran the xrandr command again but this time, i noticed it worked however it blacked out my right monitor (primary) but for some reason it was also responsive, like i could click on windows over there but blindly. Going to look at log
[00:22] <jlim> not for me
[00:22] <daftykins> jlim: right so do you want us to help or do you want to just sit there complaining?
[00:23] <jlim> you going to fix the .5 installer for me or are you going to fix 14.04.1
[00:23] <WilsonMhmm> I'm have major connection issues connecting to several Ubuntu URLs for updates...
[00:23] <OerHeks> daftykins, there is an issue with hardwarestack upgrade
[00:23] <daftykins> jlim: you need to describe your issues properly first
[00:24] <jlim> 14.04 bluetooth not working. 12.04.5 installer has no support for my video card
[00:24] <WilsonMhmm> Are there any mirrors for Update URLs?
[00:24] <daftykins> OerHeks: how-so? that's only one of the described scenarios to be honest
[00:25] <daftykins> WilsonMhmm: what do you mean when you say 'update URLs' ?
[00:25] <eeee_> WilsonMhmm: is this a server or you have GUI ?
[00:25] <daftykins> oh repos.
[00:25] <WilsonMhmm> Like when I run Software Update or sudo apt-get update or synaptic
[00:26] <daftykins> use the main archive.ubuntu.com
[00:26] <Kamuela> Is there a way to change the screen resolution via the terminal?
[00:26] <jlim> daftykins: says on the ubuntu website that 12.04.1 hardware stack is supported for the duration
[00:26] <WilsonMhmm> Example: Ign http://us.archive.ubuntu.com trusty/universe Translation-en_US   100% [Waiting for headers]
[00:27] <WilsonMhmm> This happens for several minutes then Software update reports failed to download...
[00:27] <eeee_> WilsonMhmm: that's correct feedback there
[00:27] <daftykins> jlim: right, but not release .1 which is what the conversation was about.
[00:28] <eeee_> WilsonMhmm: what do you mean it reports failed to download? what's the error msg?
[00:28] <dawu> this is the log for my xorg
[00:28] <dawu> http://pastebin.com/GbZ5svHD
[00:28] <MannyLNJ> Hello. I'm very clueless when it comes to any OS other than windows. I'm runnung Ubuntu from a USB and I need to copy all files with doc, and jpg extensions from /media/ubuntu/Old Drive to  /media/ubuntu/3882-C811/backup how do I do this?
[00:28] <gr33n7007h> Kamuela,  xrandr -s wxh
[00:28] <jlim> well if it is the only that will install and work what am i supposed to do?
[00:29] <daftykins> jlim: you are making us go around in circles. you haven't explained what's wrong with installing 12.04.5 in any proper detail, so i'm giving up sorry.
[00:29] <dawu> Again, the problem i run into is when i use xrandr command to move HDMI-1-0 left of LVDS-1-0 it does the trick but lvds monitor for some reason becomes a black screen
[00:29] <WilsonMhmm> Give me one second to reproduce error
[00:30] <jlim> daftykins: this is the third time.......... 12.04.5 INSTALLER DOES NOT SUPPORT MY VIDEO CARD......
[00:30] <daftykins> jlim: right and you didn't explain in enough detail. given up, sorry. godbye.
[00:30] <daftykins> +o
[00:31] <daftykins> dawu: is this a laptop with nvidia optimus? i see GT 650M
[00:31] <jim1> how can i set gnome to default de?cause every time i boot up i jave to choose either gnome or unity
[00:31] <jlim> daftykins: yes
[00:31] <jlim> every ubuntu installed fine but 12.04.5
[00:32] <daftykins> dawu: you should be using nvidia-settings to configure really
[00:32] <jlim> daftykins: yes it is the nvidia nv650
[00:32] <WilsonMhmm> Software Update reports error: Failed to download repository information. Check your internet connection buttons are settings try again and ok
[00:32] <dawu> daftykins: correct, I have the proprietary 331.38 drivers installed
[00:32] <Kamuela> gr33n7007h: Do you think a toggle could be made as a clickable script on the desktop? Meaning if this resolution, switch to that, else switch to that
[00:33] <jlim> dafty i have to get it installed before i can install the nvidia drivers!!
[00:33] <daftykins> dawu: but is it optimus, so coupled with intel graphics? so that bumblebee or nvidia-prime is in use?
[00:33] <daftykins> jlim: i'm not talking to you. i told you i gave up, goodbye.
[00:33] <jlim> useless
[00:33] <daftykins> yes, yes you are
[00:33] <gr33n7007h> Kamuela, probably
[00:33] <jlim> forget it dafty don't help me
[00:34] <daftykins> i'm not.
[00:34] <daftykins> bye
[00:34] <dawu> daftykins, i do not have bumblebee installed,  just the generic drivers. but yes it does have the optimus tech
[00:34] <dawu> i dont care enough to use it though because i use my laptop as a desktop really
[00:34] <jlim> daftykins: thank you
[00:35] <daftykins> dawu: hrmm, i'm amazed that it's still functioning, usually when people install the nvidia drivers it breaks X entirely for them. perhaps you have one of those systems that lets you choose which graphics to use in the BIOS? or perhaps ubuntu installed nvidia-prime automatically
[00:36] <benzhninja|sleep> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_MRzPLOk_o4
[00:36] <jlim> daftykins: nope every other distro installs fine. only 12.04.5 does not
[00:37] <daftykins> benzhninja|sleep: don't link videos in here.
[00:37] <benzhninja|sleep> ok
[00:37] <daftykins> or at least say what it is and how it's relevant to your question :P
[00:37] <dawu> hm.. I've only had problems when trying to use optimus, but since i dont really need it i just have in my nvidia settings to always use the gpu and its never been problematic for me, at least when i was in 12.04
[00:37] <daftykins> dawu: it might be worth trying to purge the nvidia drivers entirely then, if you're up for that
[00:38] <dawu> im really curious as to why the screen just blacks out though..
[00:38] <eeee_> MannyLNJ: find /media/ubuntu/Old\ Drive "*.jpg" -exec cp {} /media/ubuntu/3882-C811/backup \;
[00:40] <MannyLNJ> eeee_:  Thank you. Trying that now
[00:41] <daftykins> dawu: are you configuring with Monitors or nvidia-settings then?
[00:41] <jlim> i am done with ubuntu
[00:43] <dawu> i guess i will have to play around with nvidia
[00:43] <eeee_> MannyLNJ: np, that's for .jpg, it's the same command except replace "*.jpg" with "*.doc" to copy the docs
[00:43] <MannyLNJ> eeee_:  I pasted find /media/ubuntu/Old\ Drive "*.jpg" -exec cp {} /media/ubuntu/3882-C811/backup \;  and it's moving all files not just .jpg ones
[00:43] <daftykins> yay jlim left
[00:43] <eeee_> MannyLNJ: yikes! my bad, put -iname before "*.jpg"
[00:43] <eeee_> :)
[00:44] <eeee_> MannyLNJ: find /media/ubuntu/Old\ Drive -iname "*.jpg" -exec cp {} /media/ubuntu/3882-C811/backup \;
[00:45] <MannyLNJ> eeee_:  Thanbks. Now  it's throwing errors on some files  "Value too large for defined data type"
[00:48] <dawu> daftykins: im just gonna purge everything and install it the way i know. I wonder if there are just conflicts or something. I'll be back to tell you if it wored:p
[00:48] <WilsonMhmm> This distro is rapidly going down hill. Support is a pain. Packages are out-of-date not to mention the name convention for package is just unreadable. it's impossible to get problems diagnosed let alone fixed.
[00:48] <daftykins> ok
[00:49] <daftykins> WilsonMhmm: working fine here and for lots of users we get in
[00:49] <daftykins> WilsonMhmm: still repo trouble huh?
[00:50] <MannyLNJ> eeee_:  the full error for some files are cp: failed to extend ‘/media/ubuntu/3882-C811/backup/<some file name>’: Value too large for defined data type
[00:51] <eeee_> MannyLNJ: not sure, but try this
[00:51] <eeee_> MannyLNJ: find /media/ubuntu/Old\ Drive -iname "*.jpg" -exec cp {} /media/ubuntu/3882-C811/backup +
[00:51] <WilsonMhmm> Yeah well half those users don't understand how out-of-date some packages are. And yes this is an on going problem. I feel like I spend so much time diagnosing these problems all I do is work and fix my Ubuntu problems.
[00:51] <daftykins> WilsonMhmm: uh-huh, well feel free to ask for a refund and buy a copy of Windows
[00:51] <daftykins> :)
[00:52] <MannyLNJ> find /media/ubuntu/Old\ Drive -iname "*.jpg" -exec cp {} /media/ubuntu/3882-C811/backup +  respnds with           find: missing argument to `-exec'
[00:52] <WilsonMhmm> You know I understand Ubuntu is free but considering other free based options, a lot of them contain less problems and even more less attitude as I've seen you spread around this chat room today.
[00:53] <daftykins> another happy customer.
[00:56] <physixer> I upgraded from 12.04 to 14.04 (x86_64 desktop, nvidia graphics) and unity is not working. I have tried a lot of options. Luckily I had awesomewm installed so I tried it and am able to log on to it. So lightdm works, I can log in, awesomwm works, but in unity, only mouse and wallpaper are visible. Need help!
[00:57] <Seven_Six_Two> physixer, try downgrading to an older nvidia driver.
[00:57] <MannyLNJ> eeee_:  any  other ideas?
[00:57] <daftykins> physixer: try http://www.webupd8.org/2012/10/how-to-reset-compiz-and-unity-in-ubuntu.html
[00:58] <Seven_Six_Two> physixer, I had the same issue.
[00:58] <physixer> Seven_Six_Two: well I had nvidia-331 installed with 12.04, that was causing this issue, I upgraded to nvidia-340, and the problem is exactly the same (no change).
[00:58] <physixer> daftykins: ok lemme take a look.
[00:58] <Seven_Six_Two> physixer, did you install 12.04 when it was new?
[00:58] <Loshki> MannyLNJ: you are missing an argument. cp needs two args...
[00:58] <physixer> Seven_Six_Two: no I upgraded 12.04 from 10.04
[00:59] <Seven_Six_Two> physixer, meaning, is the laptop over 4 years old?
[00:59] <physixer> the desktop is from 2011
[00:59] <eeee_> Loshki: the first arg is {} ( results from the find command)
[00:59] <eeee_> MannyLNJ: it has to do with the naming of your folder, Old Drive
[00:59] <Loshki> eeee_: correct, the first and only arg is {}. I repeat, cp needs 2 args...
[00:59] <eeee_> MannyLNJ: if you can rename it temporarily to Old_Drive it should work
[00:59] <dawu> ohhh god things got even worse
[00:59] <MannyLNJ> Loshki:  I was using what eeee_  told me to try
[01:00] <lanuxpr0> How can I set 2 gigs of my RAM for dedicated swap?
[01:00] <Loshki> MannyLNJ: so where do you want these files to be copied *to*?
[01:00] <eeee_> Loshki: how do you mean? the second argument is /media/...
[01:00] <MannyLNJ> eeee_:  If you explain to me how to rename it I will attempt it
[01:00] <eeee_> Loshki: it works here, just when i make a folder with a space in its name as the source it doesnt work anymore
[01:00] <Seven_Six_Two> physixer, oh sorry, desktop. ok, 3 years old? maybe switch to 173?
[01:01] <dawu> daftykins: i purged everything, and did it the way i did on 12.04... and.. aliens... idk what the hell is going on.. i have to see.. but when i went to switch where my monitors where through generic settings.. thats when things went to hell..
[01:01] <Loshki> Oops. My bad. There is a line break after {} in my xchat window.
[01:01] <daftykins> dawu: aliens? :P
[01:01] <dawu> now there is a black box around windows, and x and - buttons on windows.. and the screens are mirrored
[01:01] <Seven_Six_Two> physixer, I have a 4 year old laptop, and the 304 doesn't work for me.
[01:01] <eeee_> MannyLNJ: if you can rename the Old Drive to Old_Drive it will work, i tried it here and the space in the name is causing the error, no idea why though
[01:01] <Loshki> eeee_: MannyLNJ: In that case, the terminating semicolon is missing...
[01:01] <eeee_> sorry
[01:01] <dawu> I also got this message: GDBus.Error:org.gtk.GDBus.UnmappedGError.Quark._gnome_2drr_2derror_2dquark.Code2: could not set the configuration for CRTC 63
[01:02] <eeee_> Loshki: we tried \; in the command, and it is complaining about Value too large for some files
[01:02] <daftykins> dawu: check your upgrade worked properly with "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade"
[01:02] <dawu> alright
[01:02] <eeee_> Loshki: so we are attempting to copy them in a different fashion using "+"
[01:02] <physixer> Seven_Six_Two: I guess my case is different, nvidia-331 was working perfectly with 12.04 (I have a 500 series geforce so not really that old, still supported by nvidia's latest drivers)
[01:02] <MannyLNJ> eeee_:  Would you walk me through renaming the drive or directory
[01:02] <physixer> Seven_Six_Two: I'm gonna try daftykins's link
[01:02] <lanuxpr0> How can I set 2 gigs of my RAM for dedicated swap?
[01:03] <daftykins> lanuxpr0: you're joking right? what you've just said shows a fundamental misunderstanding of what swap is.
[01:03] <jim1> hello,is there any way to set gnome-shell as my default de?cause everytime i boot up i see the unity de and i have to chose gnome to open...ty
[01:03] <lanuxpr0> daftykins: I thought swap extends your ram, so when I run out of ram I want my 2 gigs of ram to be used
[01:04] <dawu> daftykins: there are things to upgrade.. but why is there nouveau packages from xserver-xorg..?
[01:04] <daftykins> lanuxpr0: no, swap is used after RAM is filled.
[01:04] <ObrienDave> swap does NOT extend your RAM
[01:04] <eeee_> MannyLNJ: mv /media/ubuntu/Old\ Drive /media/ubuntu/OldDrive
[01:04] <dawu> and from other places
[01:04] <jim1> swap is a virtual memory
[01:04] <jim1> that takes place in the hdd
[01:05] <jim1> and its more slower than the ram
[01:05] <Seven_Six_Two> lanuxpr0, you can create a drive in memory and use it for processes that are write intensive. That speeds up reads and writes.
[01:05] <MannyLNJ> eeee_:  Do I need to unmount it first? ubuntu@ubuntu:/media/ubuntu$ sudo mv /media/ubuntu/Old\ Drive /media/ubuntu/OldDrive mv: cannot move ‘/media/ubuntu/Old Drive’ to ‘/media/ubuntu/OldDrive’: Device or resource busy
[01:05] <jim1> it only exists and is like a renzervous to your ram so if the ram is filled swap is used..also swap frees up ram to make your system run smoother
[01:06] <eeee_> MannyLNJ: oh
[01:06] <dawu> im scared to allow this update
[01:06] <dawu> or upgrade
[01:06] <Loshki> eeee_: Ah, I see. I've never used "+". There is a workaround for the space-in-filenames issue. The -print0 option?
[01:06] <dawu> *hold breathe*
[01:07] <dawu> *is about to pass out*
[01:07] <eeee_> Loshki: still not working
[01:08] <MannyLNJ> eeee_: and Loshki I know just enough to be dangerous so I'm being very careful. My friend's drive is failing so I'm trying to save her documents and pictures.
[01:08] <satria> hai
[01:08] <satria> hello
[01:08] <daftykins> dawu: because nouveau got updated :D
[01:08] <eeee_> MannyLNJ: i see, thats what the error might be about, (value too large) i just googled it a while ago and somebody mentioned it could be caused by bad sectors
[01:08] <eeee_> MannyLNJ: but some were saying if you copy the files one by one they copy
[01:09] <dawu> i hate gpu's.. i wish things were different in life
[01:10] <Loshki> eeee_: find -print0 needs to be combined with xargs -0 to work properly I think.
[01:10] <MannyLNJ> eeee_:  so now can I (meaning some telling me what to do) pipe the list of bad files to one file and I can then use that as an input source to copy one by one?  Or is there another alternative?
[01:10] <eeee_> Loshki: oh, yeah, let me try
[01:10] <eeee_> MannyLNJ: yeah i was thinking about that
[01:10] <eeee_> MannyLNJ: maybe this find will work though
[01:10] <eeee_> or there's another way
[01:11] <Loshki> eeee_: MannyLNJ: yes, you can list the files into a file, do a quick edit, and I think it would be an effective workaround.
[01:13] <MannyLNJ> eeee_:  How do I do that?
[01:13] <Seven_Six_Two> MannyLNJ, can you program at all? I'm just learning, so not a good coach, but that should be fairly simple in perl.
[01:13] <eeee_> Seven_Six_Two: perl ? it just needs a pipe to a file and then for i in bla bla
[01:13] <MannyLNJ> Seven_Six_Two:  No I can't program. I'm used to windows but I'm trying to think outside the box because window's file copy sucks
[01:13] <dawu> ..
[01:13] <caceres> hla
[01:14] <Seven_Six_Two> eeee_, that's one way, yes.
[01:15] <Loshki> eeee_: that, or change every line in the file from foo to mv 'foo' /media/.... Note that you'll have to quote foo because it can contain spaces. Depends on how handy you are with an editor...
[01:15] <MannyLNJ> pwd
[01:16] <MannyLNJ> opps wrong window
[01:16] <daftykins> /home/MannyLNJ/
[01:17] <Guest19154> I'm having a problem adding ppas.  I get the following message: http://pastebin.com/Nh76GtaQ
[01:17] <Loshki> eeee_: something like:  find . -print0 | xargs -0 ls -l
[01:18] <dawu> daftykins: ok, everything upgraded. gonna reboot
[01:18] <daftykins> yay
[01:19] <eeee_> MannyLNJ:
[01:19] <TJ-> Loshki: Why not just "find . -ls" ?
[01:19] <eeee_> do you have anything else in /media/ubuntu ?
[01:19] <MannyLNJ> eeee_:  Right here. I'm reading what  you and Loshki wrote and am totally confused
[01:20] <MannyLNJ> eeee_:  Yes I have 3882-c811 which is the flash drive I'm copying to and I have Old Drive
[01:21] <dawu> daftykins: ok.. i rebooted.. im really nervous about tyring to switch monitors around..
[01:21] <eeee_> MannyLNJ: find /media/ubuntu/Old\ Drive "*.jpg" -exec echo {} >> tocopy \;
[01:21] <eeee_> sorry wait
[01:22] <eeee_> MannyLNJ: find /media/ubuntu/Old\ Drive "*.jpg" -exec echo {} >> ~/tocopy \;
[01:22] <eeee_> then cat ~/tocopy see if the files are there
[01:22] <lanuxpr0> So I can't put swap in my RAM?
[01:23] <dawu> NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
[01:23] <dawu> WTF
[01:24] <ObrienDave> lanuxpr0, swap is for when your RAM is full and it SWAPS unneeded ram space to the drive
[01:24] <dawu> daftykins: i think i might go back to ubuntu 12.04 lulz
[01:24] <ObrienDave> swap is NOT extra memory
[01:24] <OerHeks> lanuxpr0, you can make a ramdisk, and put swap there ..
[01:24] <MannyLNJ> eeee_:  waiting for find /media/ubuntu/Old\ Drive "*.jpg" -exec echo {} >> ~/tocopy \;                      to complete
[01:24] <lanuxpr0> ObrienDave: but I dont want my ram to be full, thats why i want swap in there
[01:25] <daftykins> dawu: or clean install 14.04.1
[01:25] <MannyLNJ> eeee_:  i think it completed   ubuntu@ubuntu:~$ cd Desktop/ ubuntu@ubuntu:~/Desktop$ find /media/ubuntu/Old\ Drive "*.jpg" -exec echo {} >> ~/tocopy \; find: `*.jpg': No such file or directory ubuntu@ubuntu:~/Desktop$
[01:25] <dawu> i just installed it today:(
[01:25] <ObrienDave> lanuxpr0, it does not work that way
[01:25] <eeee_> MannyLNJ: try to cat ~/tocopy
[01:26] <Seven_Six_Two> lanuxpr0, that's like putting a drip pan inside a pot in order to increase the capacity of the pot
[01:26] <ObrienDave> Seven_Six_Two, +1
[01:26] <Coburn> I have an issue with tumspf, it won't do greylisting due to this bug: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/tumgreyspf/+bug/1294518
[01:26] <lanuxpr0> but the drip pan would increase the volume
[01:26] <MannyLNJ> eeee_:  that file exists now :-)
[01:26] <Coburn> Why hasn't this been fixed in Ubuntu if the Debian version has been fixed?
[01:27] <Guest19154> I'm having a problem adding ppas.  I get the following message: http://pastebin.com/Nh76GtaQ
[01:27] <Seven_Six_Two> lanuxpr0, don't be obtuse.
[01:27] <ObrienDave> NO IT WOULD NOT
[01:27] <eeee_> MannyLNJ: and it has the list of .jpg  files ?
[01:27] <TJ-> eeee_:  MannyLNJ: FYI: That error from 'cp' is caused by sparse files; use "cp --sparse=never ..." to avoid it
[01:27] <MannyLNJ> eeee_:  It has EVRY FILE listed
[01:28] <eeee_> MannyLNJ: damn, i forgot the -iname again
[01:28] <eeee_> lol
[01:28] <Seven_Six_Two> Guest19154, how did you add the ppa? the exact command
[01:28] <eeee_> MannyLNJ: find /media/ubuntu/Old\ Drive -iname "*.jpg" -exec echo {} >> ~/tocopy \;
[01:28] <eeee_> sorry
[01:28] <Coburn> tumgreyspf is the offending package with the bug
[01:29] <MannyLNJ> do I need to erase ~/tocopy ?
[01:29] <eeee_> yeah
[01:31] <MannyLNJ> eeee_:  How do I remove it safely?
[01:31] <eeee_> MannyLNJ: rm ~/tocopy
[01:31] <expunge> rmdir is safer
[01:31] <ObrienDave> lanuxpr0, you have X amount of RAM, you want to make a RAM drive to use as swap, that will leave LESS RAM for your system to use. don't you see that that is WRONG?
[01:31] <eeee_> MannyLNJ: rm ~/tocopy -i if you ever want extra caution (it asks before deleting)
[01:31] <expunge> oh it's a file =) neverminds
[01:32] <eeee_> expunge: it's a file not dir
[01:32] <lanuxpr0> Ok I just googled and I ran "mkswap free -m 2gb" and it works I have more swap in my ram now, thanks guys you're awesome :)
[01:32] <eeee_> :)
[01:32] <expunge> lanuxpr0: gj
[01:32] <ObrienDave> *head desks*
[01:33] <MannyLNJ> eeee_:  that has all .jpg names
[01:34] <eeee_> MannyLNJ: i thought it had all files, not just .jpg ?
[01:34] <expunge> -iname "*.jpg"
[01:34] <eeee_> we'll make it again, it's np
[01:34] <eeee_> yeah we forgot the -iname
[01:34] <MannyLNJ> eeee_:  I re-ran with your correction
[01:34] <expunge> what're you doing with this list of jpg files?
[01:34] <eeee_> oh ok great
[01:34] <eeee_> now then
[01:35] <MannyLNJ> expunge:  trying to copy files that are throwing errors
[01:35] <eeee_> MannyLNJ: for i in `cat ~/tocopy`; do cp $i /media/ubuntu/3882-C811/backup; done
[01:35] <expunge> what errors?
[01:35] <ProfessorKaos64> how can I specify a ppa when install a package?
[01:36] <TJ-> eeee_:  MannyLNJ: ^^FYI^^ That error from 'cp' is caused by sparse files; use "cp --sparse=never ..." to avoid it (" failed to extend ‘/media/ubuntu/3882-C811/backup/<some file name>’: Value too large for defined data type")
[01:37] <MannyLNJ> expunge:  I'm getting cp: failed to extend ‘/media/ubuntu/3882-C811/backup/<some file name>’: Value too large for defined data type        when trying to copy files fromk ma NTFS drive that is failing
[01:37] <eeee_> TJ-: is it due to long file names?
[01:37] <MannyLNJ> TJ-: I saw what you wrote but I don't understand.
[01:38] <eeee_> MannyLNJ: find /media/ubuntu/Old\ Drive -iname "*.jpg" -exec cp --sparse=never {} /media/ubuntu/3882-C811/backup \;
[01:38] <eeee_> i think that's what TJ- means
[01:39] <expunge> MannyLNJ: that mounted with ntfs-3g?
[01:39] <daftykins> it hasn't been called -3g for years :>
[01:39] <MannyLNJ> expunge: I believe so
[01:39] <TJ-> eeee_: No... the source files have sparse allocations, in this case just before the EOF ... that causes problems for 'cp' when it is trying to efficiently copy extents because it tries to reproduce the sparse holes in the files
[01:39] <expunge> 'mount' would say
[01:39] <MannyLNJ> expunge:  and eeee_  Tried find /media/ubuntu/Old\ Drive -iname "*.jpg" -exec cp --sparse=never {} /media/ubuntu/3882-C811/backup \; same errors            cp: failed to extend ‘/media/ubuntu/3882-C811/backup/IMG5.jpg’: Value too large for defined data type
[01:40] <eeee_> MannyLNJ: did you try the for command?
[01:40] <eeee_> MannyLNJ: for i in `cat ~/tocopy`; do cp $i /media/ubuntu/3882-C811/backup; done
[01:41] <MannyLNJ> eeee_:  yhes the or i in `cat ~/tocopy`; do cp $i /media/ubuntu/3882-C811/backup; done os throwing up all cp: cannot start messages
[01:42] <eeee_> TJ-: does it matter that his drive is failing?
[01:42] <wafflejock> mahdi !ask
[01:42] <wafflejock> oops sorry
[01:42] <niop> hi, trying install libjpeg, but when i run "apt-get install libjpeg" as root, I get "E: Unable to locate package libjpeg"
[01:42] <TJ-> eeee_: It won't help ... what is strange though, is it is the *destination* causing that error ... what type of file-system, and size, is it?
[01:42] <expunge> niop: apt-cache search libjpeg
[01:43] <MannyLNJ> TJ-:  It
[01:43] <MannyLNJ> TJ-:  It's a flash drive with 10 GB on it
[01:43] <user99393> Hello, I am trying to grep a 3 megabyte irc log
[01:43] <user99393> I know for longer files it takes longer
[01:43] <user99393> but it seems to not be working at all
[01:43] <user99393> Is there any way I can get better performance with grep and long irc logs?
[01:43] <wafflejock> niop, http://packages.ubuntu.com/precise/libjpeg-dev <-- perhaps that's what you're looking for?
[01:44] <physixer> my issue is fixed. I had to use daftykins's link for resetting compiz and unity (thanks daftykins) but before that I had to disable onboard VGA. I guess onboard-VGA vs nvidia GPU was confusing compiz+unity. Ideally this problem shouldn't happen so this is a a potential bugfix for Ubuntu.
[01:44] <wafflejock> user99393, can you show the line you're using
[01:44] <daftykins> physixer: no, sounds like an optimus machine
[01:44] <daftykins> physixer: so it's known
[01:44] <niop> wafflejock: theres libjpeg-dev, libjpeg8 and libjpeg62, among others. one of those is the lib sought?
[01:44] <niop> or that should do instead of libjpg?
[01:45] <user99393> wafflejock, grep "brain" example.log
[01:45] <physixer> daftykins: I have nvidia geforce 560 Ti ... Intel core i5 on Gigabyte motherboard
[01:45] <wafflejock> niop, sometimes packages are named slightly differently in different repos what is it you're trying to get libjpeg for?
[01:45] <daftykins> physixer: oh ok, quirky desktop setup. yeah with a discrete card you should always have the onboard off
[01:45] <MannyLNJ> clear
[01:46] <sunray> hi guy, I am on asus laptop with ubuntu 14.04, just installed. Fn keys are not deteced
[01:46] <sunray> and touchpad not working
[01:47] <wafflejock> user looks okay don't think you need the quotes but should be right
[01:47] <wafflejock> user99393,
[01:47] <physixer> daftykins: yeah I guess I should. Thanks to everyone for support, and to Ubuntu for their free OS!
[01:47] <niop> wafflejock: python PIL (python imaging library)
[01:47] <wafflejock> niop, yeah probably good with the dev one then, many times if I'm compiling something or something like that I need to get some of the -dev suffixed packages
[01:47] <_unreal_> SOB... was burning desktop 14.4 LTS and burn stalled
[01:48] <nimbiotics> hello everyone. I'm using ubuntu 14.04 with cinnamon. At some point I lost my network connections icon frm the tool bars. How can I have my network connections manager icon back on the notifications area of my tool bat?? TIA!
[01:48] <wafflejock> niop, http://jj.isgeek.net/2011/09/install-pil-with-jpeg-support-on-ubuntu-oneiric-64bits/
[01:49] <niop> looks useful.. thanks.
[01:50] <wafflejock> sunray, this might help http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2210244
[01:51] <user99393> wafflejock, I'm also trying to output the text file using cat example.log
[01:51] <user99393> and nothing is coming out
[01:51] <user99393> output the text file in terminal*
[01:51] <wafflejock> nimbiotics, you might need to try a cinammon/mint chat instead probably not a ton of cinammon users in here
[01:51] <MannyLNJ> eeee_:  I edited the file with gedit to remove everything I don't want to copy
[01:51] <wafflejock> user99393, if you do ls -al does it look like you have read permissions to the file?
[01:53] <MannyLNJ> eeee_:  now when I do for i in `cat ~/tocopy`; do cp $i /media/ubuntu/3882-C811/backup;  done                           it thows errors saying cp: cannot stat ‘Settings/Application’: No such file or directory cp: cannot stat ‘Data/Microsoft/Messenger/kerropi81@hotmail.com/Sharing’: No such file or directory cp: cannot stat ‘Folders/randalicuss@hotmail.com/Picture’: No such file or directory cp: cannot stat ‘7.jpg’: 
[01:53] <MannyLNJ> eeee_:  I think the spaces are fowling things up
[01:53] <user99393> wafflejock, my permissions on the file are -rw-r--r--
[01:53] <nimbiotics> wafflejock: THX
[01:53] <user99393> that means I do have read permissions right?
[01:54] <wafflejock> nimbiotics, np good luck, unfortunately I only installed cinammon on my parents computer but haven't used it much myself aside from being sure it was simple enough for them
[01:54] <eeee_> MannyLNJ: try
[01:54] <eeee_> MannyLNJ: for i in `cat ~/tocopy`; do cp "$i" /media/ubuntu/3882-C811/backup; done
[01:54] <wafflejock> user99393, yeah read for user group and other
[01:55] <wafflejock> user99393, are you SSHed into the box?
[01:55] <wafflejock> typically you would see it cat still but it might be scrolling for a while
[01:55] <MannyLNJ> ee eeee_ for i in `cat ~/tocopy`; do cp "$i" /media/ubuntu/3882-C811/backup; done   gives same errors
[01:55] <TJ-> MannyLNJ: eeee_ To copy files that have errors you can use this construction. I'e written it safely so it only displays the commands it would execute, until you edit out the second 'echo'
[01:55] <wafflejock> user99393, is it just hanging on cat?
 user99393, is it just hanging on cat?
[01:55] <user99393> yes it just hangs on cat
[01:55] <user99393> wafflejock, im not sshed into it
[01:56] <user99393> its my pc
[01:56] <TJ-> MannyLNJ: eeee_ : FROM="."; TO="/media/ubuntu/3882-C811/backup"; while read file; do echo "Copying $file to $TO/${file##*/}"; echo cmd= dd if=$file of=$TO/${file##*/} conv=noerror,sync; done < <(find $FROM -type f -iname '*.jpg')
[01:56] <Guest19154> Seven_Six_Two, sudo add-apt-repository ppa:versable/elementary-update
[01:56] <MannyLNJ> TJ-:  what location do I run it from?
[01:56] <wafflejock> user99393, I have no idea.... you might try using vi or nano or pico to open the file
[01:57] <wafflejock> if, vi use Esc :q Enter to exit, nano or pico I think both use Ctrl+X (Ctrl+O to write out)
[01:58] <TJ-> MannyLNJ: the directory where the files you want to recover are... e.g. if the files are in and below "/home/$USER/Pictures", that's the directory to start in. The 'find' will search sub-directories *but* the backup will only be one directory deep... if you need to preserve the directory structure, we need to get a bit more sophisticated
[01:59] <MannyLNJ> TJ-:  Not concerned about directory structure. I'll dump them into a folder for her to sort once the new drive and os is on
[01:59] <Guest19154> I'm having a problem adding ppas.  I get the following message: http://pastebin.com/Nh76GtaQ I used the following command: sudo add-apt-repository ppa:versable/elementary-update
[02:00] <wafflejock> Guest19154, not positive but think it's trying to say that PPA doesn't have packages for your specific OS version
[02:00] <wafflejock> hopefully someone else can confirm
[02:00] <MannyLNJ>   TJ-: No good  :-(   Just a snip Copying ./Windows.old/Documents and Settings/Owner/Local Settings/Application Data/Microsoft/Messenger/kerropi81@hotmail.com/Sharing Folders/randalicuss@hotmail.com/Picture 5.jpg to /media/ubuntu/3882-C811/backup/Picture 5.jpg dd: unrecognized operand ‘and’ Try 'dd --help' for more information. Copying ./Windows.old/Documents and Settings/Owner/Local Settings/Application Data/Microsoft/Messenge
[02:00] <Guest19154> oh ok
[02:01] <TJ-> MannyLNJ: well for completeness, this is how to preserve the directory structure: FROM="."; TO="/media/ubuntu/3882-C811/backup"; while read file; do echo "Copying $file to $TO/${file##*/}"; mkdir -p "$TO/$(dirname $file)" ; dd if="$file" of="$TO/$(dirname $file)/${file##*/}" conv=noerror,sync; done < <(find $FROM -type f -iname '*.jpg')
[02:01] <wafflejock> user99393, any luck with nano or vi?
[02:01] <TJ-> MannyLNJ: that variation also copes with spaces in the paths
[02:04] <Guest76284> need help to get dvd to work have all plugins and dvdread4 installed and vlc  and restricted plugins ?
[02:04] <MannyLNJ> TJ-:  Still is failing
[02:05] <MannyLNJ> TJ-:  d: failed to open ‘/media/ubuntu/3882-C811/backup/./Windows.old\n.\nSettings\nUsers\nData/HP/LGT/Data/Models/Images/load_photopaper2.jpg’: No such file or directory mkdir: cannot create directory ‘/media/ubuntu/3882-C811/backup/./Windows.old\n.\nSettings\nUsers\nData’: Invalid argument dd: failed to open ‘/media/ubuntu/3882-C811/backup/./Windows.old\n.\nSettings\nUsers\nData/HP/LGT/Data/Models/Images/load_photopaper
[02:07] <Guest76284> no one will help ?
[02:07] <TJ-> MannyLNJ: Are those "\n" literal in the paths to the files?
[02:09] <MannyLNJ> TJ-:  I don't think so  I think of of the commands generated them
[02:10] <xangua> Guest76284: after installing libdvdread4, did you run the script¿
[02:11] <TJ-> MannyLNJ: Is the system language set to English, or some other?
[02:11] <OerHeks> Guest76284 did you try other dvd´s? not all dvd's will work
[02:12] <MannyLNJ> TJ-:  I assume English. I'm booted off a USB stick with a "live cd" and need to copy the files to another USB stick.  I'm willing to go to a private channel if you want
[02:12] <Guest76284> no but i will
[02:12] <Guest76284> no but i will
[02:12] <niop> wafflejock: have done the sym linking as suggest in link, but pip install PIL gives:   Could not find any downloads that satisfy the requirement PIL
[02:12] <niop>   Some externally hosted files were ignored (use --allow-external PIL to allow).
[02:12] <niop> Cleaning up...
[02:12] <niop> No distributions at all found for PIL
[02:12] <niop> Storing debug log for failure in /root/.pip/pip.log
[02:13] <wafflejock> niop, this might be it http://stackoverflow.com/questions/21242107/pip-install-pil-dont-install-into-virtualenv
[02:13] <TJ-> MannyLNJ: I'm trying to figure out why the paths have got literal characters in... I presume the path is actually "backup/./Windows.old/Settings/Users/Data/HP/LGT/Data/Models/Images/load_photopaper2.jpg" ?
[02:14] <MannyLNJ> TJ-:  the root of the drive is "Old Drive" and under there is Windows.old and then directorys with spaces in the name
[02:15] <MannyLNJ> TJ-:  like "Documents and settings"
[02:15] <niop> wafflejock:  yeah ok.. just saw that in a page that came up.  will give it a fling. fingers crossed. enough install issues already.  having had some more adventurous ones getting image libraries working with nodejs. resorting to python.
[02:16] <MannyLNJ> TJ-:  one file is at /media/ubuntu/Old Drive/Windows.old/Documents and Settings/HelpAssistant/Local Settings/Application Data/Microsoft/Messenger/kerropi81@hotmail.com/Sharing Folders/jdfann@hotmail.com/house.jpg
[02:16] <Geo> Hi, I have eth0 (192.168.10.10) and eth1 (192.168.20.10), both /24 subnets. if I do ping -I eth1 192.168.10.10 , i get 100% packet loss. ip route has: default via 192.168.20.1 dev eth1   . What other route do I need to add in to get successful pings?
[02:16] <wafflejock> niop, ah I've only used gd2 stuff in PHP dunno with node er python
[02:16] <ttal> i have an ssd that ubuntu server is installed on. I also have 2 x 3TB internal hdd i want raid1 setup on. I have to do this after installation of ubuntu desktop right? Is there official documentation on doing that?
[02:17] <Deihmos> chrome seem to suck on ubuntu
[02:17] <wafflejock> Deihmos, how so? also have you tried chromium and chrome or?
[02:17] <Guest76284> no go on other dvds
[02:17] <Guest76284> press play and then it just stops
[02:18] <MannyLNJ> TJ-:  May I send you the text file with all the file names?
[02:18] <wafflejock> ttal, believe this is the most recent doc on RAID https://help.ubuntu.com/12.04/serverguide/advanced-installation.html
[02:18] <wafflejock> !RAID
[02:18] <TJ-> MannyLNJ: so "/Documents and Settings/" became "\n.\nSettings\nUsers\nData" ... that doesn't make sense
[02:19] <photon> Hi. Two hours ago I unmounted an ext4 partition. I tried to remount it half an hour ago, got an error (don't remember the exact wording, but IIRC something about bad descriptors was in it). dmesg showed "group descriptors corrupted" for that partition. I ran fsck on it. It fixed tens of thousands of "Group descriptor ... checksum is invalid." errors, tens of thousands of "Free blocks count wrong for group" errors, and just as many "Inode bitmap differ
[02:19] <photon> ences" errors, followed by another bunch of "free inode count wrong" errors. After an hour of fixing, I got no more errors and remounted the partition. At first glance, it seems all my files are still there and intact. What could have caused this? Could it be that the HDD is failing? SMART shows no such indication and no errors. Should I buy a new HDD? Should I reformat? Or can I safely continue to use this partition? Thank you!
[02:19] <ttal> wafflejock: awesome thank you.
[02:20] <MannyLNJ> TJ-:  I have no idea
[02:20] <niop> wafflejock: just when i thought was clear of the woods, running pip install command produced: Command /usr/bin/python -c "import setuptools, tokenize;__file__='/tmp/pip_build_root/PIL/setup.py';exec(compile(getattr(tokenize, 'open', open)(__file__).read().replace('\r\n', '\n'), __file__, 'exec'))" install --record /tmp/pip-DE0ktK-record/install-record.txt --single-version-externally-managed --compile failed with error code 1 in /tmp/pip_build_
[02:20] <niop> root/PIL
[02:20] <niop>  
[02:20] <niop> and..  UnicodeDecodeError: 'ascii' codec can't decode byte 0xe2 in position 57: ordinal not in range(128)
[02:21] <Deihmos> wafflejock, it seems much slower than if i use firefox
[02:22] <TJ-> MannyLNJ: I've not seen that before either; not sure how to deal with it
[02:23] <wafflejock> Deihmos, believe it tends to take more RAM so it depends on the system for sure
[02:24] <Deihmos> i have 8gb
[02:24] <Deihmos> actually 12
[02:24] <wafflejock> Deihmos, I do web development so I prefer chromes debug tools and profiling tools most of the time, but firefox does seem a little snappier like you say
[02:24] <wafflejock> Deihmos, ah okay well yeah RAM is probably not a huge issue then.. I have 8 too but even so having to populate all the RAM it's using must take some time
[02:24] <MannyLNJ> TJ-:  I appreciate the assisatance you have given.
[02:26] <TJ-> MannyLNJ: I can't reproduce it here either, which makes me wonder if it is something to do with the NTFS file-system I assume is the source
[02:26] <MannyLNJ> TJ-:  it could be. I just saw a bash script at http://askubuntu.com/questions/180215/how-can-i-search-for-files-in-all-sub-directories-using-the-shell-and-then-copy that may work but I don't know to mofify it for my needs
[02:27] <TJ-> MannyLNJ: If you only run the 'find' as a test, do you see those strange path constructs? "find $FROM -type f -iname '*.jpg' "
[02:27] <TJ-> MannerMan: you may need to preceed that with "FROM=.", of course
[02:28] <Deihmos> skype on ubuntu is very disappointing
[02:28] <MannyLNJ> TJ-:  You want me to type find $FROM -type f -iname '*.jpg' " at the ubuntu@ubuntu:/media/ubuntu/Old Drive$  prompt   correct?
[02:28] <Geo> Hi, I have eth0 (192.168.10.10) and eth1 (192.168.20.10), both /24 subnets. if I do ping -I eth1 192.168.10.10 , i get 100% packet loss. ip route has: default via 192.168.20.1 dev eth1 . Running tcpdump on eth0, I can see the ping requests arriving, but no response going back out. What other route do I need to add in to get successful pings?
[02:30] <Alexanderrockz> weechat?
[02:30] <Alexanderrockz> xD
[02:32] <Psil0Cybin> 14.04 upgrade ;d
[02:33] <TJ-> MannyLNJ: Yes, see if any of the paths have that strange corruption in them
[02:34] <TJ-> MannyLNJ: It's almost as if there's some UTF-8 characters or control-codes
[02:34] <niop> wafflejock: problem with pip install is this:   _imagingft.c:73:31: fatal error: freetype/fterrors.h: No such file or directory
[02:34] <eeee_> MannyLNJ: find /media/ubuntu/Old\ Drive -iname "*.jpg" -exec sh -c 'cp "$@" /media/ubuntu/3882-C811/backup' {} +
[02:34] <wafflejock> niop sounds like you need some freetype libraries
[02:34] <MannyLNJ> TJ-:  ubuntu@ubuntu:/media/ubuntu/Old Drive$ $FROM -type f -iname '*.jpg' " >                              is all it displays
[02:35] <eeee_> MannyLNJ: give that a shot
[02:35] <TJ-> MannyLNJ: You've missed a quote mark out somewhere
[02:35] <wafflejock> niop, perhaps sudo apt-get install libfreetype6-dev
[02:35] <TJ-> MannyLNJ: You've added an extra one (the one I terminated the command with). Type another " and press enter
[02:36] <MannyLNJ> TJ-:  and eeee_  ubuntu@ubuntu:/media/ubuntu/Old Drive$ $FROM -type f -iname '*.jpg' "" bash: .: -t: invalid option .: usage: . filename [arguments] ubuntu@ubuntu:/media/ubuntu/Old Drive$
[02:36] <Beldar> Deihmos, This is not your what sucks soapbox.
[02:36] <OerHeks> spaces in names
[02:36] <TJ-> eeee_: if you use "dd ... conv=noerror,sync" instead of "cp" it'll copy even files with I/O errors
[02:37] <expunge> or ddrescue
[02:37] <eeee_> TJ-: MannyLNJ if you copy the file which has the value too large individually, does it work?
[02:37] <MannyLNJ> eeee_:  I haven't tried that. At thuis point I forgot what files it is choking on
[02:38] <TJ-> MannyLNJ: You're sometimes typing the double-quotes I use to delimit the commands I'm showing you, and then you missed the 'find' off :)     "    find . -type f -iname '*.jpg'    "
[02:39] <MannyLNJ> TJ-:  Ok that command is displaying file names correctly no /n or \n and shows spaces!
[02:39] <TJ-> MannyLNJ: I'll leave you in eeee_'s capable hands, I've been fixing servers for the last 24 hours so I need to get some sleep :)
[02:40] <user99393> found out what was going on, the log had a pound sign in it. I changed the filename to exclude the found sign and grepping it or opening it in vim worked just fine
[02:40] <user99393> thanks wafflejock
[02:41] <MannyLNJ> TJ-:  thank you again. eeee_  Using the output of find . -type f -iname '*.jpg'   how can I pipe that to copy one file at a time?
[02:42] <eeee_> MannyLNJ: we already tried that with the for i in ..
[02:43] <eeee_> MannyLNJ: find -type f is the same command -type f means only find files
[02:43] <eeee_> did you try the command ending with + ?
[02:43] <eeee_> MannyLNJ: find /media/ubuntu/Old\ Drive -iname "*.jpg" -exec sh -c 'cp "$@" /media/ubuntu/3882-C811/backup' {} +
[02:44] <eeee_> it's a work around to the missing argument to -exec error
[02:45] <eeee_> *for the
[02:45] <TJ-> Why not just use rsync? :)
[02:46] <Random832> upgrading to 14.04 LTS, i got a message at the end of do-release-upgrade saying there were 10 errors - i'm running upgrade again but don't know wat do if it has errors again
[02:46] <MannyLNJ> eeee_:  did find /media/ubuntu/Old\ Drive -iname "*.jpg" -exec sh -c 'cp "$@" /media/ubuntu/3882-C811/backup' {} +  and same falures  cp: error reading ‘/media/ubuntu/Old Drive/Windows.old/Documents and Settings/Owner/My Documents/My Pictures/Misc/Misc 041.jpg’: Value too large for defined data type cp: failed to extend ‘/media/ubuntu/3882-C811/newback/Misc 041.jpg’: Value too large for defined data type
[02:47] <Random832> MannyLNJ: how big is the file?
[02:47] <onats> is it possible to upgrade distribution versions while skipping some in the middle?
[02:47] <onats> i.e. form 13.04 - 14.04
[02:47] <wafflejock> rsync++
[02:48] <niop> wafflejock: still on the freetype issue.  tried on a fresh ubuntu image and the same msg:  "E: Unable to locate package freetype".  did this: apt-get install freetype*, and it installed some stuff successfully. but pip install comes up with same error.  guess no need to redo symlinks.
[02:48] <xangua> onats: no, only from LTS to LTS
[02:48] <eeee_> MannyLNJ: try this cp "/media/ubuntu/Old Drive/Windows.old/Documents and Settings/Owner/My Documents/My Pictures/Misc/Misc 041.jpg" ~/
[02:49] <onats> so i have to go to 13.10 and then 14.04?
[02:49] <MannyLNJ> Random832:  One min
[02:49] <niop> wafflejock: * tried apt-get install freetype and got the same msg, that should be
[02:49] <xangua> onats: yes, backups are always good idea and a fresh install would be faster
[02:50] <MannyLNJ> eeee_: ubuntu@ubuntu:/media/ubuntu/3882-C811$ cp "/media/ubuntu/Old Drive/Windows.old/Documents and Settings/Owner/My Documents/My Pictures/Misc/Misc 041.jpg" ~/ cp: error reading ‘/media/ubuntu/Old Drive/Windows.old/Documents and Settings/Owner/My Documents/My Pictures/Misc/Misc 041.jpg’: Value too large for defined data type cp: failed to extend ‘/home/ubuntu/Misc 041.jpg’: Value too large for defined data type
[02:50] <ross`> I installed ubuntu on my friends windos 8 laptop and it won't boot
[02:50] <ross`> he has /dev/sda1 1b ntfs
[02:50] <wafflejock> niop, there's a bit of info on 14.04 with regard to freetype libs http://stackoverflow.com/questions/20325473/error-installing-python-image-library-using-pip-on-mac-os-x-10-9
[02:51] <ross`> /dev/sda2 260mb fat32
[02:51] <TJ-> MannyLNJ: Is the Live ISO 32-bit ?
[02:51] <ross`> which has boot flag
[02:51] <MannyLNJ> Random832:  36.8 k
[02:51] <ross`> for some reason it shows up in grub but can't be booted from
[02:51] <MannyLNJ> TJ-:  No 64 Bit
[02:51] <eeee_> MannyLNJ: i think this has to do with bad sectors?
[02:51] <eeee_> TJ-: ?
[02:51] <wafflejock> ross`, can you be more specific what happens when you try to boot which OS are you selecting (does either work)
[02:51] <MannyLNJ> eeee_:  I think so too
[02:52] <ross`> it can't find it
[02:52] <ross`> but when ubuntu boots it mounts the windows boot partition in /boot/efi
[02:52] <eeee_> what would happen if he dosfsck'd the drive?
[02:52] <ross`> if i look at /boot/efi/EFI/Microsoft/Boot
[02:52] <ross`> i see bootmgfw.efi and bootmgr.efi
[02:53] <ross`> grub tries to load bootmgfw.efi and fails
[02:53] <ross`> even though it exists
[02:53] <ross`> wafflejock: booting ubuntu works fine
[02:53] <ross`> trying to boot windows again
[02:54] <ross`> in /boot/efi/EFI i have folders: Boot, Microsoft, toshiba, ubuntu.
[02:54] <wafflejock> ross` conversation here about it http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2102337
[02:54] <ross`> each of those have another Boot dir, then a .efi
[02:56] <MannyLNJ> eeee_:  I'm willing to try anything at this point
[02:59] <MannyLNJ> eeee_:  How do I check it under the live usb?
[02:59] <wafflejock> MannyLNJ, have you tried rsync? or perhaps ddrescue
[02:59] <TJ-> MannyLNJ: I may have it .... I wonder if the path length is larger than the maximum allowed... are there some files that succeed, but files with long paths failing, or do short paths fail too?
[02:59] <niop> wafflejock: alternative imaging lib for python, Pillow, installed ok.. so using that to avoid headache getting PIL going.
[03:00] <MannyLNJ> wafflejock:  No to both. I am not familair with either
[03:00] <wafflejock> niop, ah well glad you found some work around
[03:01] <wafflejock> MannyLNJ, rsync is used for making backups not sure if it will provide more error correcting or attempts since it's generally used over a network but ddrescue has helped me with corrupt DVDs before http://www.gnu.org/software/ddrescue/
[03:01] <wafflejock> ddrescue will do multiple passes trying to copy the blocks
[03:01] <MannyLNJ> TJ-:  it could be the length of the path I'm not sure.
[03:01] <wafflejock> it will take anything it's sure of on the first pass then on subsequent passes will try failed block copies
[03:02] <ross`> wafflejock: fckin secure boot yo ;0
[03:02] <wafflejock> ross`, yeah I really haven't dealt much with  EFI
[03:03] <ross`> first time i've made a windows 8 laptop dual boot
[03:03] <wafflejock> ross` I have a System76 computer I ran Windows on it initially but now it's just Ubuntu Gnome with windows in a VM
[03:04] <MannyLNJ> wafflejock:   TJ-  eeee_  I cand't even open the file in the viewer from  where it is. Same error Error reading from file: Value too large for defined data type
[03:04] <TJ-> MannyLNJ: can you show us "stat /path/to/file" via the pastebin ?
[03:05] <TJ-> MannyLNJ: It's on a NTFS file-system, yes?
[03:05] <wafflejock> MannyLNJ, sorry got to this conversation late did you run fsck on the disk would like to know file-system too
[03:05] <wafflejock> with NTFS you'll need to use windows CheckDsk utility isntead of fsck I'm pretty sure
[03:05] <MannyLNJ> TJ-: Yes NTFS
[03:06] <MannyLNJ> eeee_:  TJ-  wafflejock  Pastebin link http://pastebin.com/arGB5La4
[03:06] <MannyLNJ> wafflejock: can't boot into Windows on the trive. Endless repair cycle on Win 8. That's why I'm trying to copy off what I can
[03:06] <TJ-> MannyLNJ: I'm wondering if that file has an alternate stream - NTFS allows several different sets of content within one file, the default stream you usually see is :0 but there could be other much larger streams attached. If not that, then I think the block allocation for the file has sparse blocks *and* the block count has been corrupted to some ridiculously large number
[03:07] <MannyLNJ> TJ-:  dmesg  is showing drive errors
[03:07] <TJ-> MannerMan: You need to do that again *any* spaces in a path means you must surround the entire path in double or single quotes
[03:07] <TJ-> MannerMan: That doesn't surprise me :)
[03:08] <TJ-> oops,... those last 2 messages were for MannyLNJ
[03:08] <wafflejock> To many Man's man man
[03:08] <MannyLNJ> TJ-:  http://pastebin.com/ZpFN2fdx
[03:08] <TJ-> Tab-complete needs to get some intelligence and realise I want the same name again
[03:09] <TJ-> MannyLNJ: That's a directory, was that intentional?
[03:10] <MannyLNJ> TJ  No I may have goofed there
[03:10] <TJ-> MannyLNJ: :) .... The time this is taking, I'm thinking you'd be better off using ddrescue to clone the entire failing drive, then do the recovery from the good clone
[03:11] <reisio> just restore from backup :)
[03:11] <MannyLNJ> TJ-:  If I had a spare drive to clone it to I would. I onl;y have a smaller drive for her
[03:11] <MannyLNJ> reisio: Again if she had a backup I would
[03:11] <reisio> buy another drive
[03:11] <reisio> you'll need more space eventually anyways
[03:11] <reisio> particularly if you haven't had a backup system
[03:12] <MannyLNJ> Resio my friend had a backup system which silently failed and she did not know the backups were not being saved
[03:12] <reisio> you had a backup system but you don't have space for a backup?
[03:14] <MannyLNJ> reisio:  It's not my pc. It's a family friends. I had her setup with a backup to another system in her house. That one started corrupting the files and she didn't tell me until her computer was bsoding
[03:15] <reisio> so both drives are hosed?
[03:15] <reisio> to me that is just all the more reason to get another drive...
[03:16] <Lisa1> Hi Just a quick one- Don't know why my Ubuntu system is so slow - even though the memory ulization is 69% and Swap 20%.  CPU is around 60% and 43%. My laptop is 2008 born :)
[03:17] <MannyLNJ> resiso Yers that's why I have a drive on order for her. But I need to recover and get her up by Thuersday
[03:17] <Lisa1> Any pointers ??
[03:18] <reisio> Lisa1: slow?
[03:18] <reisio> MannyLNJ: buy local then
[03:19] <reisio> get an external from walmart, use it, then take it back
[03:19] <reisio> it's immoral, but so is walmart
[03:20] <MannyLNJ> Resio I will see if she has the funds to do that.
[03:20] <MannyLNJ> TJ-: eeee_ wafflejock  Thank you for your attempts I am going to go to sleep
[03:21] <chriys> hey guys do you know a better editor than nano ? one which can at least shows me line number
[03:21] <riz0n> Hey guys. I just upgraded my Ubuntu computer from 12.04 to 14.04 and now PHP is not processing on Apache. What do I need to look at/fix to restore PHP on my Web Server?
[03:21] <reisio> chriys: you can't use a GUI editor?
[03:21] <reisio> riz0n: logs
[03:22] <chriys> reisio: If I'll need the graphic interface, then no
[03:23] <reisio> chriys: try nano -cuw
[03:23] <[Eli]> Could someone help me get my Ethernet card working by installing the driver using an .inf file please?
[03:23] <Guest32233> I've got a twin monitor setup using intel HD 2500 graphics. Running a program in wine seems to have screwed up my configuration - the right screen is now shifted left about 10%. The right two inches of the screen are black and the cursor won't move into this area, and the left two inches are off the edge of the screen. This only happens on the native 1680x1050 resolution, the other resolutions are okay.Does anyone know how I can reset my
[03:23] <Guest32233>  config
[03:24] <[Ex0r]> try using the auto adjust button on the monitor ?
[03:25] <Lisa1> reisio, Yes I mean it takes ages to bring up the screen after I click
[03:25] <chriys> thx reisio
[03:25] <reisio> Lisa1: what screen?
[03:26] <Lisa1> Anything such as the system monitor or browser etc.. applications I mean
[03:26] <Guest32233> [Ex0r]: thanks, that fixed it!
[03:26] <reisio> Lisa1: what's your graphics device?
[03:26] <niop> wafflejock: bad news. pillow installed fine, but on building node, error msg appears not that dissimilar to freetype .h not being found: ../src/Image.h:19:21: fatal error: "gif_lib.h: No such file or directory".. i think i added symlinks for that before.  related to cairo libs which i installed before.
[03:26] <riz0n> reisio: this is what the "logs" show: 10.100.1.254 - - [11/Aug/2014:23:16:08 -0400] "GET / HTTP/1.1" 200 8380 "-" "Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.3; WOW64) AppleWebKit/537.36 (KHTML, like Gecko) Chrome/36.0.1985.125 Safari/537.36"
[03:27] <reisio> riz0n: no, you need eror logs :)
[03:27] <Lisa1> Its the ATI Radeon
[03:27] <reisio> you might try a different graphics driver
[03:27] <riz0n> reisio: where would I find "error logs" ...???
[03:27] <reisio> or using an unaccelerated window manager
[03:28] <reisio> riz0n: in /var/log/, after you enable them
[03:28] <reisio> #httpd
[03:29] <Lisa1> I am just wondering if the system slows down as it ages ??? I mean component deteoration?
[03:31] <rodney77> Hi, I can't shut down my computer. The shutdown sequence goes to 'reboot: will now halt' and then it just hangs there
[03:32] <Beldar> Lisa1, Not in any empirical way of measuring.
[03:32] <rodney77> i also can't suspend it just wakes right back up
[03:34] <Beldar> Lisa1, Closest would be bad block on a HD probably.
[03:34] <Beldar> or plural blocks
[03:34] <reisio> rodney77: check BIOS
[03:34] <rodney77> thanks, reisio. I'll check it now. I also can't get wake on lan to work since upgrading ubuntu and that used to work
[03:35] <Beldar> rodney77, Same thing from the guest account or a live?
[03:37] <rodney77> beldar, let me check guest now
[03:39] <rodney77> ok, from the guest, i shutdown and still got 'reboot: system halted'
[03:39] <rodney77> i will try suspending from there
[03:40] <rodney77> ok, suspend doesn't work either
[03:40] <rodney77> let me look for a live disk
[03:42] <Beldar> rodney77, So when halted what do you do and how many times have you done it?
[03:42] <azureuser> exit
[03:42] <azureuser> lol
[03:45] <geekmasterflash> Hello, I am wondering if someone can help me troubleshoot a problem I am having, my system seems to be locking up at random
[03:46] <geekmasterflash> I thought it was graphics card related, but it's happening even with a brand new card
[03:46] <geekmasterflash> (I thought so due to the nature of the lock up occuring when video/video games were being played)
[03:46] <geekmasterflash> Can anyone give me some idea where I should even begin looking?
[03:47] <rodney77> beldar, when it halts i simply press the power off button, because the filesystems have already unmounted.
[03:50] <cato1986> hi
[03:50] <cato1986> is there anyone here that knows grub
[03:51] <Ben64> cato1986: find out by describing your issue in as much detail as possible
[03:52] <rodney77> beldar, reisio, i'm still trying to get a book disk going. bear with me...
[03:52] <Jeffrey_f> geekmasterflash: I'm checking on something
[03:53] <geekmasterflash> Jeffrey_f: Take your time
[03:55] <somsip> geekmasterflash: does it lock up totally, or does video just fail to update?
[03:55] <geekmasterflash> somsip: Total system lock
[03:56] <niop> anyone an idea why "apt-get install pixman" produces this error: "E: Unable to locate package pixman"?
[03:56] <Jeffrey_f> geekmasterflash: do you have pastebinit installed?
[03:56] <somsip> !info pixman | niop
[03:56] <geekmasterflash> Jeffrey_f: I do now :)
[03:57] <cato1986> my grub installation did not go right
[03:57] <somsip> niop: because it does not exist after precise from what I can tell
[03:57] <niop> somsip: and ubotto: the first line is ...
[03:57] <Jeffrey_f> geekmasterflash: Get some system info so we have something to work with.  command line:  cat /proc/cpuinfo>sysinfo.txt&&free -m>>sysinfo.txt&&df -h>>sysinfo.txt&&cat sysinfo.txt|pastebinit
[03:58] <niop> somsip: !info pixman.. is what?
[03:58] <geekmasterflash> Jeffrey_f: http://paste.ubuntu.com/8023270/
[03:58] <cato1986> rude
[03:58] <somsip> niop: it tells you about the package. It tells you it does not exist.
[03:58] <niop> somsip: so what if i need cairo? which depends on pixman
[03:59] <somsip> !info cairo
[03:59] <cato1986_> hi
[03:59] <somsip> niop: where are you planning to install cairo from?
[03:59] <cato1986_> i have a grub question/problem
[04:00] <niop> somsip: anywhere that works. initially downloaded with curl. .but then i think with apt-get. forgotten what the result was.  been going around in circles the last day or so trying to get image library installed for python.. PIL or Pillow.
[04:00] <Jeffrey_f> geekmasterflash: Is the locking up random or while using any particular app?
[04:01] <geekmasterflash> Jeffrey_f: Well, it locks up most constantly when I playing games, or when listening to music on Clementine
[04:01] <niop> *actually for node.. but switched to python in case that would prove less problematic with installing.. but issues with that as well.
[04:01] <geekmasterflash> Jeffrey_f: But only when the music program is itself open, not when it's minumized
[04:01] <somsip> niop: ignoring the cairo part for a minute then, what's wrong with this>
[04:01] <somsip> !info python-pil | niop
[04:02] <niop> link i was going from to install cairo https://github.com/Automattic/node-canvas/wiki/Installation---OSX#installing-cairo
[04:02] <somsip> niop: are you running OSX or Ubuntu?
[04:02] <niop> latter
[04:03] <niop> on digitalocean.. under docker if that means something.
[04:03] <somsip> niop: anyway, moot point. Do you just want Python-PIL? If so, what is wrong with using the package?
[04:04] <niop> somsip:  what's wrong with.... info python-pil output? in regard to earlier msg
[04:04] <somsip> niop: no, if you want python-pil why can't you just 'sudo apt-get install python-pil'?
[04:04] <niop> u mean it's pre installed?
[04:04] <niop> ic
[04:04] <niop> trying it now
[04:05] <niop> installed ok
[04:06] <somsip> niop: so does that solve your problem?
[04:07] <niop> what about the other things.. if you might know of something with that.. as in.. simple command.. apt-get install pixman.. producing "E: Unable to locate package pixman".. because that happens on a number of packages.
[04:07] <niop> that relates to precise you were saying
[04:07] <niop> say freetype
[04:07] <somsip> niop: you can only install packages that are available. Pixman is not available. You can use '!find {name}' in here to try to locate packages
[04:07] <somsip> !find freetype | niop
[04:07] <rodney77> ok beldar, reisio, I was able to shut down correctly using a live disk I found. it was 12.04 32 bit, though, and I have 14.04 64 bit installed
[04:07] <niop> ic
[04:08] <niop> that's great.
[04:08] <somsip> niop: what version of ubuntu are you running?
[04:08] <rodney77> I should mention that when I had an older os on there i could shut down
[04:08] <niop> probably as much as i can get in this dept. anything else might relatee to dokku, which builds node.  seems to not find .h files.  freetype.h for example.
[04:09] <somsip> niop: node as in node.js? Maybe best (though not officially good advice) to use the PPA as it is very up to date
[04:09] <niop> Distributor ID:	Ubuntu
[04:09] <niop> Description:	Ubuntu 14.04.1 LTS
[04:09] <niop> Release:	14.04
[04:09] <niop> Codename:	trusty
[04:10] <somsip> niop: so !info and !find will work fine as the previous examples
[04:10] <niop> yeah.. js.. not sure what ppa is.. but can check it out.
[04:10] <niop> info and find to check what packages are installed/available, if typed name isn't found. thanks.
[04:10] <somsip> niop: this one, but PPAs are not supported in here, so if you come back asking for support if it goes wrong, forget it. You need to contact the package maintainer. Saying that, I find this PPA to be stable http://www.ubuntuupdates.org/ppa/chris_lea_nodejs
[04:11] <niop> fair enough.. enough issues without having to worry about custom ppas no doubt.
[04:11] <somsip> niop: so...anything else?
[04:12] <niop> will have a look, thanks.
[04:12] <somsip> niop: np
[04:12] <niop> that's all.. for a while, hopefully.  you've been a great help.
[04:12] <somsip> niop: you're welcome
[04:14] <bong1> so do we now have a clickey like program on linux? https://www.grc.com/freeware/clickey.htm
[04:14] <geekmasterflash> bong1: That sounds like possibly the worst idea I have ever heard.
[04:15] <Beldar> rodney77, If it were me since I'm set up for fresh installs always, I would just do a fresh install. However that is just me, I never do distro upgrades.
[04:15] <neldogz> Switched from Windows 8.1 to Ubuntu 14.04 and it's working well for me.. Just one question I was hoping someone could clarify, is there a go to tool to search and clean malware or viruses affecting a GNU\Linux machine? How would one know if your system has caught something nasty?
[04:15] <rodney77> Beldar, this is a fresh install
[04:15] <somsip> !av | neldogz
[04:15] <geekmasterflash> neldogz: There is clamav, which I think works well.
[04:15] <bong1> geekmasterflash: why?
[04:16] <rodney77> i mean, it's fresh as of a few weeks ago. I installed from disk but I can't find that disk right now
[04:16] <Beldar> rodney77, Was it this way before a update, were you able to check?
[04:16] <geekmasterflash> bong1: Because your computer will turn into a miserable cacaphony of noise?
[04:16] <somsip> !info bleachbit | neldogz (as a CCleaner-like)
[04:16] <rodney77> beldar, I can't say for sure, but I could have sworn it shut down fine when I first installed it
[04:16] <Beldar> rodney77, In other words was it ever correct?
[04:16] <rodney77> yes, I believe it was.
[04:16] <rodney77> You know, I installed openvpn
[04:16] <neldogz> geekmasterflash, what about rootkits and all that should I be worried?
[04:17] <rodney77> do you think that would have done it? That seemed to put new users in my logon screen and everything
[04:17] <geekmasterflash> neldogz: Highly unlikely. 99% of all viruses target windows systems.
[04:17] <neldogz> somsip, i am familiar with bleachbit, its a great program
[04:17] <bong1> geekmasterflash:  i would want that
[04:17] <geekmasterflash> neldogz: There are some that I have seen that attack unix system, but those tend to focus on webservers
[04:18] <somsip> neldogz: so those are your two likely packages - Bleachbit and ClamAV (if you really need an anti-virus)
[04:18] <neldogz> somsip, i read that clamav will only clean windows viruses.. is this true that it wont detect ones targeting GNU\Linux?
[04:19] <Beldar> rodney77, Hard to say really. If it was working and now not it is rather unusual but we do not know how you have modified the install. Or if it is a hardware issue or software.
[04:19] <somsip> neldogz: there aren't really (m)any viruses targetting linux, which is why it refers to W32 viruses
[04:20] <neldogz> clamav it is
[04:20] <neldogz> thank you guys that clarifies things
[04:20] <somsip> neldogz: np. Though I don't claim to be an expert on these things, so do a bit or reading around it in case you find out something more helpful
[04:22] <ttal> is it recommended to use lvm these days?
[04:22] <neldogz> somsip, i am always cautious of the software I install. I guess I am just worried about stuff from web browsing.. coming from Windows it was very easy to get infected with some type of malware variant by just googling around
[04:23] <neldogz> Ubuntu has been solid for me and is consistent.. works the same every day which I love..
[04:23] <geekmasterflash> neldogz: It's very, very unlikely you'd get a virus that way on Linux
[04:23] <geekmasterflash> neldogz: That said, that is only because of what is called security through obscurity
[04:23] <neldogz> geekmasterflash, thank you
[04:24] <somsip> neldogz: fair observation. I've been on Ubuntu for a few years with no protection other than careful browsing habits, and have had no problems. My wife uses W32 and I regular find infections on there
[04:24] <geekmasterflash> neldogz: Linux is not used by enough people to warrant such attacks
[04:24] <geekmasterflash> neldogz: As linux becomes more popular for personal computing, that will likely be very different.
[04:24] <neldogz> that makes sense
[04:24] <bong1> if there was just a switch where we could turn on and off clicking keyboard type of sounds in linux, i would be one happy camper.
[04:25] <Jeffrey_f> geekmasterflash: you don't get virii in Linux like you can in windows.  You would need to go through extraordinary lengths to get a virus.  You would need to get and run it.......Usually, by default, most downloads are not executable (I said usually) by default.  But getting software from an untrusted (not part of the Ubuntu repositories or a relatively trustworthy vendor like skype, et al would get you infected.  If you do manage to
[04:25] <geekmasterflash> Jeffrey_f: I am never going to tell anyone they can NOT get a virus.
[04:26] <ColdFyre> is it possible to automatically authenticate against an openldap server and then a windows AD server only if the openldap server goes down?
[04:26] <somsip> bong1: unsupported - https://github.com/aitjcize/Qwertickle
[04:26] <geekmasterflash> Jeffrey_f: Linux is well adapted against the methods of many, if not most vectors of attack
[04:26] <geekmasterflash> Jeffrey_f: But that is only true today, for now.
[04:26] <geekmasterflash> Jeffrey_f: Unforseen things happen all the time.
[04:26] <Jeffrey_f> geekmasterflash:  I didn't say you can't, just that you would need to go through steps to get infected.  Unlike windows where you just need to visit a website
[04:27] <geekmasterflash> Jeffrey_f: And that might be Linux too, one day.
[04:27] <geekmasterflash> Jeffrey_f: When it comes to security, a bit of paranoia is healthy.
[04:29] <neldogz> I once read something along the lines of; you are at risk unless you can trust every software package  on your computer.. GNU\Linux gives us that ability to trust everything by using the official repos
[04:29] <neldogz> It's such a powerful concept
[04:30] <geekmasterflash> neldogz: Indeed it is. However, even that can be a blind spot.
[04:32] <neldogz> With Windows whenever you want to try something out you head over to a download site and theres a huge risk involved installing from there... all closed source..
[04:32] <Jeffrey_f> geekmasterflash: Agreed on the paranoia and NOTHING is completely fool proof
[04:32] <geekmasterflash> neldogz: Indeed. But sometimes deeply trusted packets can hide vulnerablities: http://www.techrepublic.com/blog/data-center/hackers-have-a-bad-name-but-one-may-have-saved-the-internet-as-we-know-it/
[04:33] <geekmasterflash> neldogz: There is few other libraries trusted, and more nessicary than BIND.
[04:33] <bong1> somsip: can  i ask you if i have questions abt installing qwerticle? i was reading the instructions and find it  to be daunting for a  beginner.
[04:33] <neldogz> geekmasterflash, thats a great article thanks!
[04:38] <pam> I'm trying to install google drive tools on ubuntu...tried to get authorization from google...Method Not Allowed Error 405
[04:38] <pam> I think its an oauth error?
[04:38] <geekmasterflash> pam: People still use POST?
[04:41] <fishcooker> i have install x11vnc + openbox + slim.. but still i i can't x11vnc there is message complaining "XOpenDisplay failed. No -display or DISPLAY." what should i install?
[04:42] <geekmasterflash> fishcooker: Did you install xorg?
[04:43] <Lisa1> Beldar, How do you ascertain the bad blocks in the HDD
[04:44] <ttal> does installing ubuntu-desktop install any programs with it?
[04:45] <Ben64> ttal: ubuntu-desktop is a meta package, so yes, it installs many things
[04:45] <Abhijit> ttal, lots of
[04:45] <Beldar> Lisa1, There are smartcheck tools. The install has on in the disks app top right corner dropdown. There are command line ones, not really an area I can really speak with authority in however.
[04:45] <geekmasterflash> Ben64: Older info, but makes the point: http://packages.ubuntu.com/lucid/ubuntu-desktop
[04:46] <geekmasterflash> Ben64: The packages listed as depends would be downloaded as a matter of course should you use apt-get
[04:46] <ttal> Ben64: so apart from a gui if installed from ubuntu desktop, it will install a word processor and other things?
[04:46] <Ben64> geekmasterflash: why not link to http://packages.ubuntu.com/trusty/ubuntu-desktop
[04:46] <geekmasterflash> Ben64: My googlefu wasn't strong enough to add, "trusty" apparently.
[04:47] <Ben64> ttal: yeah, installs the ubuntu desktop, with all its apps and stuff
[04:47] <reversiblean> Hi, can we safely ignore errors appear in syslogs?
[04:48] <jcbjoe> im on Ubuntu 14.04.1 LTS trusty and in xfce thunar all my icons are not there / i see files no icons
[04:48] <jcbjoe> any ideas ?
[04:49] <reversiblean> For example "ubuntu kernel: [    0.106647] ACPI BIOS Error (bug): \_SB_.PCI0.USB1._PSW: Object (Integer) must be a control method with 1 arguments (20131115/nsarg     uments-147)" appears after every reboot
[04:54] <ttal> Ben64: Abhijit: I see thanks guys
[04:54] <fishcooker> not yet geekmasterflash sudo apt-get install xorg --no-install-recommend?
[04:54] <geekmasterflash> fishcooker: I am not an expert, but I do know that the x11vnc package only works if you have the X system installed.
[04:55] <geekmasterflash> fishcooker: "x11vnc does not create an extra display (or X desktop) for remote control. Instead, it uses the existing X11 display shown on the monitor of a Unix-like computer in real time, unlike other Linux alternatives such as TightVNC Server. "
[04:55] <fishcooker> ok your suggest is my command geekmasterflash LoL
[04:56] <ttal> Ben64: Abhijit: So if I just wanted a minimal install with gui but not all the bundled apps I would just install unity, or xfce etc?
[04:57] <Abhijit> ttal, which is your current os and what do you want?
[04:57] <fishcooker>  If NO ONE is logged into an X session yet, but there is a greeter login
[04:57] <fishcooker>    program like "gdm", "kdm", "xdm", or "dtlogin" running, you will need
[04:57] <fishcooker>    to find and use the raw display manager MIT-MAGIC-COOKIE file.
[04:57] <fishcooker>    Some examples for various display managers
[04:58] <fishcooker> geekmasterflash, what do you suggest?
[04:58] <geekmasterflash> fishcooker: I suggest installing xorg
[04:59] <geekmasterflash> fishcooker: But please, bear in mind that I know little. I am judging that from what I read on Wikipedia, just now.
[05:00] <pam> I'm trying to install google drive tools on ubuntu...tried to get authorization from google...Method Not Allowed Error 405
[05:04] <ghost0001> were
[05:04] <daskdt> Hey
[05:05] <geekmasterflash> pam: Have you seen this? http://www.thefanclub.co.za/how-to/ubuntu-google-drive-client-grive-and-grive-tools
[05:05] <daskdt> Anyone know how to install Doom Warrior from tar.gz?
[05:06] <geekmasterflash> daskdt: I don't know anything about Doom warrior, bit with a tar first you need to untar it: tar -zxvf yourfile.tar.gz
[05:06] <Abhijit> daskdt, untar it by cd to directory where tar.gz is and then do tar -zxvff gamefile.tar.gz you will find new folder. there will be README and INSTALL files in it. read those two.
[05:06] <cfhowlett> daskdt, http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/install-tarballs/
[05:08] <pacoS> Hi I am streaming with google chrome cast and is not is super slow does any one has any tip?
[05:09] <cfhowlett> pacoS, 1.  check google chrome cast support  2. check network connections and other network apps
[05:09] <daskdt> cfhowlett: http://pastebin.com/FJr3naBA
[05:09] <geekmasterflash> pacoS: There could be any number of issues that might cause that. Slow connection, poor graphics card/out of date drivers, not enough memory, etc
[05:09] <geekmasterflash> pacoS: We'd need a lot more information.
[05:09] <cfhowlett> daskdt, no can see.  thank the chinese (firewall).
[05:10] <geekmasterflash> daskdt: First, you are doing things out of order
[05:10] <geekmasterflash> daskdt: You can not make or configure a file before it exist
[05:10] <geekmasterflash> daskdt: You must untar it first.
[05:11] <pacoS> geekmasterflash, I have a decent card, lots of ram, sounds is good just does not stream at the same speed is pixelated
[05:11] <geekmasterflash> daskdt: tar -zxvf yourfile.tar.gz
[05:11] <geekmasterflash> pacoS: How fast is your internet connection?
[05:11] <cfhowlett> pacoS, and might your ISP be throttling?
[05:11] <geekmasterflash> cfhowlett: pacoS: My thought exactly.
[05:13] <pacoS> geekmasterflash, is 25 Mbps
[05:13] <geekmasterflash> pacoS: And how fast is it while streaming?
[05:13] <pacoS> cfhowlett, no in the computer is good speed
[05:14] <geekmasterflash> pacoS: Stream and run a speed test.
[05:14] <ttal> do I need to setup RAID1 at install, or can I do it afterwards? Baring in mind im installing the OS to an ssd, and I would like to set up RAID1 on other internal hard disks.
[05:14] <pacoS> geek in the actual computer is right when I put it on tv is pixed
[05:14] <geekmasterflash> pacoS: Thus why we are looking at your connection as the issue.
[05:14] <cfhowlett> pacoS, run a test and report:     http://www.speedtest.net/
[05:14] <pacoS> geekmasterflash, let me check thanks cfhowlett thanks!
[05:17] <daskdt> http://pastebin.com/u6FHiWn0
[05:18] <daskdt> What do I do next?
[05:18] <geekmasterflash> daskdt: You need to put the command I have given you twice
[05:18] <geekmasterflash> daskdt: only change the name to match the name of your tarball
[05:20] <geekmasterflash> daskdt: If you already have, and those two other files are what came out
[05:20] <geekmasterflash> daskdt: Well, they could be executable
[05:20] <geekmasterflash> daskdt: Try ./(whatever)
[05:20] <pacoS> geekmasterflash, 26 down 2.6 up
[05:20] <geekmasterflash> daskdt: I dont know if your system is x86 or 64
[05:21] <geekmasterflash> daskdt: So you'd need to know
[05:21] <geekmasterflash> pacoS: That upload might be your problem
[05:21] <geekmasterflash> pacoS: When streaming, the upload is more important the the download
[05:21] <geekmasterflash> pacoS: And that upload speed, is fairly bad for streaming audio
[05:22] <daskdt> I did
[05:22] <geekmasterflash> daskdt: And? I can not see your screen. You need to be more descriptive.
[05:22] <pacoS> geekmasterflash,  but why on the computer works and on the chrmecast not?
[05:22] <geekmasterflash> pacoS: Because you are not actually uploading anything when looking at it locally
[05:23] <geekmasterflash> pacoS: You are hitting the home address
[05:23] <geekmasterflash> pacoS: Which has however fast your ethernet card can go for up and download speed
[05:23] <geekmasterflash> pacoS: Once you actually stream across the net
[05:23] <geekmasterflash> pacoS: It's effected by the upload speed of your connection
[05:23] <geekmasterflash> pacoS: Not your local ethernet port.
[05:36] <_44trent4> Hey is ATI Mobillity Radeon HD 2600 supported anymore?
[05:39] <wafflejock> _44trent4, doesn't look like the proprietary driver supports it http://support.amd.com/en-us/kb-articles/Pages/AMDCatalyst14-4LINReleaseNotes.aspx
[05:40] <jorge> how do I view which repository a package came from?
[05:41] <wafflejock> _44trent4, discussion about work-arounds here http://askubuntu.com/questions/203232/radeon-hd-2000-3000-4000-on-ubuntu-12-04-2-and-higher-fglrx-legacy-unsuppor
[05:42] <wafflejock> jorge, sudo apt-cache policy <package>
[05:42] <jorge> thx
[05:44] <chriys> hey guys does someone knows how to setup rpm repository ?
[05:45] <dotblank> hmm, I know how to set up a debain repo but thats it
[05:45] <dotblank> wouldn't be called a yum repo anyway
[05:46] <wafflejock> a repo or a package? (either way I can't help on that one)
[05:47] <yanbing> have issue with gui which keeps restarting after resuming from suspend on a laptop running 14.04\
[05:47] <chriys> well this is the link I'm following https://github.com/kaltura/platform-install-packages/blob/master/doc/install-kaltura-redhat-based.md
[05:47] <yanbing> any ideas?
[05:48] <crazyhorse> hey all.. any idea how to manage 1000's of documents amongst multiple people?
[05:48] <crazyhorse> mainly libreoffice documents... we also have 5 laptops so always not in the same place but we need access to all the documents
[05:48] <chriys> wafflejock: after I run sudo alien -i http://installrepo.kaltura.org/releases/kaltura-release.noarch.rpm  I can see that there's an installed package kaltura-release but I can't figure out where it's locate
[05:48] <yanbing> happens everytime the laptop resumes from sleep and makes it unusable\
[05:48] <yanbing> have to reboot to reuse it
[05:49] <malkauns> crazyhorse: have them all on one server then sshfs mount the location on each laptop
[05:49] <crazyhorse> yeah but how to manage things like changes?
[05:50] <crazyhorse> also some users need access to some documents, others to other documents
[05:50] <crazyhorse> and unlike software where each file is quite small this can be gb's of data (i.e. in our git repos)
[05:50] <crazyhorse> also they need to have "local" access to the files
[05:50] <dotblank> Honestly, I would just use google doc's
[05:50] <crazyhorse> i.e. without an internet connection
[05:50] <crazyhorse> google docs is hopeless without internet
[05:51] <crazyhorse> we've been using google docs for years
[05:51] <dotblank> Why no internet then?
[05:51] <crazyhorse> also google docs is a huge security problem in terms of it has no layered security
[05:51] <dotblank> get a google drive sync service like insync
[05:51] <crazyhorse> once you login you get access to all the documents
[05:51] <Coburn|2> > rpms in deb environment
[05:51] <Coburn|2> use alien
[05:51] <crazyhorse> dotblank: working on the move, trains etc, other officies
[05:51] <dotblank> !alien
[05:52] <Coburn|2> Yeah, make sure you bold the 'danger' tag
[05:52] <Coburn|2> otherwise, compile from source like a boss
[05:52] <dotblank> !source
[05:52] <Sachiru> @crazyhorse: How much are you willing to pay for what you want?
[05:52] <wafflejock> crazyhorse, have you checked out ownCloud?
[05:52] <crazyhorse> wafflejock: yeah, let me have alook
[05:53] <crazyhorse> Sachiru: i don't mind paid for services
[05:53] <dotblank> wafflejock: for use with 1000s of documents, I do not know
[05:53] <crazyhorse> but i dont' want to use something like google docs or zoho
[05:53] <Sachiru> Why not?
[05:53] <wafflejock> I'm not sure how it goes in terms of user access and whatnot
[05:53] <crazyhorse> google docs formatting is awful
[05:53] <Sachiru> Google Docs can do per-document access controls.
[05:53] <dotblank> Well insync is a really good drive implementation that offlines and auto converts google docs
[05:53] <crazyhorse> you can not write business documents with them
[05:54] <Sachiru> What file formats do you often use?
[05:54] <crazyhorse> google docs is good when you want to collaborate on the same document
[05:54] <dotblank> https://www.insynchq.com/
[05:54] <crazyhorse> .odt mostly
[05:54] <crazyhorse> and then export to .doc, .docx .pdf when needed
[05:55] <Guest11621> how to repair some wrongs in making page number automatically in ubuntu
[05:55] <crazyhorse> hmmmm, i'm surprised there is not a git like document management system
[05:55] <chriys> I think I'm lost I used this command to install a repo alien -i http://installrepo.kaltura.org/releases/kaltura-release.noarch.rpm to set up a repo
[05:55] <wafflejock> crazyhorse, there's git :P
[05:55] <somsip> crazyhorse: git
[05:55] <dotblank> and just write all documents in latex
[05:55] <crazyhorse> waffljock: yeah i could.. haha i'm scared of training the non-computer people though
[05:56] <chriys> but after that if I run apt-get install package-name it says that the package it's already installed
[05:56] <crazyhorse> also.. it's not like it will store deltas of odt documents
[05:56] <wafflejock> crazyhorse, http://incubator.apache.org/wave/
[05:56] <chriys> but I can't manage to find where the package is installed
[05:56] <dotblank> well ODT can be stored as deltas
[05:56] <dotblank> if you have uncompressed ODTs
[05:56] <somsip> chriys: installing rpms with alien is asking for trouble. Can't you get this package in something that is more ubuntu friendly?
[05:57] <dotblank> chriys: What is it you are trying to install?
[05:57] <wafflejock> not sure if wave is just online but know it's related to collaborative editing stuff not sure about offline either just popped in my head
[05:57] <chriys> somsip: well in the documentation of that package that's the way to do
[05:57] <chriys> dotblank: Kaltura
[05:58] <crazyhorse> wafflejock: yeah the important thing is that our documents are very heavily formatted.. for example the last one we did was 49k words, 178 pages.. with headers footers, tables of contents, title pages, cover pages etc.. so really libreoffice and micrsoft word, pages (maybe)and in-design are really the only software that has to do this level to do this
[05:58] <dotblank> They don't provide a tarball?
[05:58] <dotblank> crazyhorse: and latex
[05:58] <somsip> chriys: isn't it some web-based media player, or am i looking at a different kaltura?
[05:59] <chriys> dotblank: what's a tarball?
[05:59] <dotblank> chriys: tar.gz file, usually
[05:59] <Sachiru> @crazyhorse: There's an unofficial SVN for Microsoft, called MagnetSVN (http://magnetsvn.com/).
[05:59] <chriys> somsip: it's a media server here is their website kaltura.org
[05:59] <Jeeves_Moss> I've got steam installed, however when I play Solar2, it keeps crashing.  How do I debug?
[05:59] <Sachiru> Not sure if that fits your needs though.
[05:59] <wafflejock> chriys, usually you get source in a tar (think it's tape archive) file
[06:00] <chriys> dotblank: yeah but I got issue with it because I'm running apache 2.4
[06:00] <crazyhorse> Scahiru: wow that looks awesome
[06:00] <somsip> chriys: if you want to use alien and rpm you will only get support from Kaltura. Not here. Be warned
[06:02] <dotblank> chriys: It also appears they have configs for a debian based instal
[06:02] <chriys> ok understand. Do you know how to locate and installed package ?
[06:03] <wafflejock> Jeeves_Moss, depends on the app sometimes if you just run in from a terminal you get some output when it crashes
[06:03] <Jeeves_Moss> wafflejock, I've tried.  the program claims it needs to be run through steam
[06:03] <dotblank> Also the application itself may have crash logs
[06:03] <Sachiru> Alternatively you can use TortoiseSVN and this addon (https://code.google.com/p/msofficesvn/)
[06:03] <wafflejock> Jeeves_Moss, if you want to get in the nitty gritty http://www.dirac.org/linux/gdb/06-Debugging_A_Running_Process.php
[06:04] <Sachiru> Either way it will still cost you since you'd need a SVN server somewhere.
[06:04] <Jeeves_Moss> wafflejock, I'm not THAT into it!  I'm a networking guy who's trying to learn programming while maintaining his own dev cluster
[06:04] <Sachiru> You can probably spin up the Server using Amazon Web Services.
[06:04] <wafflejock> yeah Jeeves_Moss echo dotblank here would look for logs too, search the net see if it says there are logs anywhere
[06:04] <wafflejock> Jeeves_Moss, haha yeah was mostly kidding
[06:05] <Jeeves_Moss> wafflejock, ahhhh, well, most days I have my hands full with this nighmare I made.  So, for now, I'm trying to relax.  but apparently I can't even do that.
[06:05] <dotblank> maybe attempt to attach an strace to the process?
[06:06] <SecretFire> im trying to do a sudo chown -R command to my external hdd but i keep getting a I/O error can someone help me fix this?
[06:06] <wafflejock> Jeeves_Moss, yeah I like solar haven't played it in a while though
[06:06] <Sachiru> @SecretFire: Generally speaking, quoting the error message would be very helpful
[06:06] <SecretFire> Sachiru : i can pastebin it for you
[06:06] <Sachiru> Since I doubt that this channel has psychics who can divine the contents of the error message over the internet.
[06:06] <Jeeves_Moss> wafflejock, I'm currently downloading Left4Dead since I'm outta bear, and watching "All in the Family"
[06:06] <Sachiru> Please do.
[06:06] <wafflejock> Sachiru, I can do that
[06:08] <Xerophyte> Need a Little help please
[06:09] <Jeeves_Moss> mmmmm, nothing beats the love of a University campus network for speed
[06:09] <Jeeves_Moss> Xerophyte, what did you break?
[06:10] <Xerophyte> Jeeves_Moss,  I want to expand partition on Gparted, I googled like hell followed everything but still nothing is working :(
[06:11] <Jeeves_Moss> Xerophyte, is it a live partition?
[06:12] <Jeeves_Moss> Xerophyte, and what is the file format?
[06:13] <mahesh_> Hello
[06:13] <SecretFire> Sachiru : its taking a minute when its done ill paste and give u the link
[06:13] <Xerophyte> It is Yes.. ext4   I am Using VMware and I needed to extend the disk space. Now I cannot merge the two partitions :(
[06:13] <mahesh_> i want to know bytes of data transfer through rs232 in ubuntu
[06:14] <Jeeves_Moss> Xerophyte, lol.  so you expanded the disk in VMWare?
[06:14] <Jeeves_Moss> is this the root drive or a drive you an unmount?
[06:15] <Xerophyte> Jeeves_Moss, Yes It was 30gigs earlier and i  wanted a 100 gigs...  Its the root drive yes.
[06:15] <Jeeves_Moss> Xerophyte, you can't resize a live, mounted disk.  you have to boot into a live CD image, and do it that way
[06:15] <Sachiru> Uh.
[06:16] <Xerophyte> Jeeves_Moss,  any solutions.. :/ or you might help me out on Teamviewer if you dont mind please.
[06:16] <Jeeves_Moss> Xerophyte, I had the same issue with my web server.
[06:16] <Sachiru> Resizing a live, mounted disk will FSCK up the data.
[06:16] <chriys> is it a good idea to install deb file on ubuntu
[06:16] <chriys> ?
[06:16] <Jeeves_Moss> Xerophyte, lol.  it's not that hard to do.  one sec.  I'll see if I can find the "howto" that I used.
[06:16] <Jeeves_Moss> I'm in Linux right now, otherwise, I'd just use my remote software
[06:17] <Jeeves_Moss> Xerophyte, do you have a live CD downloaded onto the host box?
[06:17] <chriys> I should say what are the risks
[06:17] <Xerophyte> Jeeves_Moss,  I have the ISO
[06:18] <Jeeves_Moss> Xerophyte, ok, shut down the running system you want to resize.  Then change the CD-ROM properties of that VM to point to the ISO and make sure it's "connected at boot"
[06:19] <Jeeves_Moss> Xerophyte, then you'll have a LiveCD running.  Once you have that, fire up gparted, and go get a coffee (or beer)
[06:19] <Xerophyte> Jeeves_Moss, one Question. Will I lose the Data?
[06:20] <Jeeves_Moss> Xerophyte, not that I am aware of.  that is if you "grow" the disk.  but I'd backup just ot be safe. it's only 30Gb
[06:22] <Xerophyte> Jeeves_Moss,  Thanks Bro I will Try it :)
[06:22] <Sachiru> Good morning, that's a nice tnetennba.
[06:23] <wafflejock> chriys, deb is the regular package type for ubuntu, ubuntu is based on debian, that said a debian package you manually install might have dependencies you have to manually resolve
[06:23] <Jeeves_Moss> Xerophyte, np.  just make sure you select the ISO as the image VMWare (host) will present to the guest, and make sure that damned check box is checked!!!  I've pulled my hair out over that a few times
[06:23] <wafflejock> chriys, apt-get is just a tool to search the repos to find matching debian packages for your system
[06:24] <chriys> oh ok now getting a better understanding
[06:24] <wafflejock> chriys, yeah rpms are just for red hat linux so not really compatible in terms of the system setup they expect
[06:25] <chriys> wafflejock: what about if I convert them using alien?
[06:25] <viktor89> Anybody know where I could look if my /var/log/mail.log is empty? I have postfix daemon and I want to find the sent mails from the past 2 days :/
[06:25] <wafflejock> chriys, it's just simpler if you go with debian packages and ideally from a repo, this way you can get security updates or bug fixes
[06:26] <wafflejock> chriys, is you install an rpm it should be a last resort and something you really need
[06:26] <wafflejock> if*
[06:26] <Jeeves_Moss> chriys, take it from someone who thought it was fun to compile from source.  one major update and your server of cards WILL fail
[06:26] <SirLagz> chriys: what are you trying to install ?
[06:26] <chriys> Kaltura-Server
[06:26] <wafflejock> viktor89, depends on how postfix is configured but you look around in /var/spool/mail ?
[06:27] <SirLagz> chriys: never even heard of that lol. I'll go back into my hole now.
[06:27] <chriys> the tar version of it gave troubles because I have apache 2.4
[06:27] <viktor89> wafflejock, I'll take a look there. I haven't looked much around, since I feel kinda clueless about where to start
[06:28] <chriys> wafflejock: lol I really need it and it's last resort. I have been trying for almost 3 days now to have it up and running if it doesn't I gonna try to go back with tar version and try to fix bugs
[06:29] <wafflejock> viktor89, is postfix working already?
[06:30] <wafflejock> chriys, yeah that's really probably your best bet
[06:30] <wafflejock> looks like they only have rpms so far
[06:30] <viktor89> hmmm, it's running, but I think something isn't really working. It sends mail with the php mail() functions from my webserver fine, but the sendmail from cmd just hangs
[06:30] <wafflejock> that or use CentOS or RedHat
[06:30] <chriys> yeah :-( so sad
[06:31] <wafflejock> here's a comprehensive guide on postfix configuration includes a testing section viktor89 http://flurdy.com/docs/postfix/
[06:31] <chriys> If I do so I will go throught all the process of setting up apache mysql php and security (like fail2ban) and iptables :o
[06:32] <wafflejock> chriys, not really that hard you can install most of them with one command
[06:32] <wafflejock> chriys, just save your conf files
[06:32] <chriys> i see
[06:32] <wafflejock> chriys, I would definitely try building from source for a bit
[06:33] <chriys> let me try and see
[06:33] <viktor89> I don't care too much about getting postfix working. It's more that I might have some valuable emails in a log somewhere, that I'd like to find :/
[06:34] <Jeeves_Moss> stupid steam client.  work out the major bugs before they release the bloody software
[06:34] <wafflejock> viktor89, well that write up has everything I know about postfix in it, but it depends on the config where the e-mails would be stored
[06:34] <wafflejock> viktor89, the log will just show login attempts or whatever but not the message body really, that would just be in the /var/spool/mail/virtual (or somewhere around there) or in a database
[06:35] <wafflejock> viktor89, but depends on the config of postfix
[06:35] <viktor89> yeah, I'll find the config
[06:35] <chriys> wafflejock: you know what enought suffering I'm migrating to Centos
[06:35] <wafflejock> viktor89, it's in /etc/postfix/ something here main.cf and master.cf
[06:35] <wafflejock> chriys, yeah it's on AWS right?
[06:36] <chriys> what's AWS ?
[06:36] <wafflejock> chriys, oh thought you were using Amazon web services
[06:36] <wafflejock> must have been someone else
[06:36] <chriys> lol DigitalOcean
[06:36] <wafflejock> ah k same diff
[06:37] <wafflejock> take a snapshot/backup, download any files you had to change (conf files, or files in dot folders in your home directory) then spin up a new instance
[06:41] <viktor89> found it :)
[06:42] <Jeeves_Moss> wafflejock,  I wonder how well counter strike source will run on Linux
[06:42] <Jeeves_Moss> under windows 8.1 it's a pig
[06:43] <viktor89> play Global Offensive ! :)
[06:43] <wafflejock> probably 1.5 pigs heh not sure.... actually trying to decide if I should mount an external to install Civ 5 right nwo
[06:43] <wafflejock> now*
[06:43] <wafflejock> so glad we can play games on linux thank you Steam
[06:44] <viktor89> Can highly recommend Kerbal Spaceprogram
[06:44] <ebenezer> Hi,every body
[06:44] <Kid-7> Hello I need a solution for this problem http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2238946
[06:44] <wafflejock> viktor89, yeah it's great
[06:45] <wafflejock> viktor89, only got Intel HD 4000 chipset in my laptop though, better on the desktop for that
[06:45] <viktor89> yea, indeed. I run it on a GTX670
[06:45] <wafflejock> viktor89, same in my desktop
[06:45] <wafflejock> great card
[06:45] <viktor89> Best game I've ever played, really :)
[06:46] <Jeeves_Moss> wafflejock, it's sad that my netbook is a quadcore with nVidia graphics that kick my laptop!
[06:46] <viktor89> love the shadowplay feature they made from nvidia
[06:46] <wafflejock> viktor89, what's the deal with that?
[06:46] <Jeeves_Moss> and once you get into the networking world, you don't have time to play anymore.  :-(
[06:46] <viktor89> it keeps a cache of gameplay video (selectable up to 10 min) which you can quicksave to a file instantly
[06:46] <wafflejock> Jeeves_Moss, need some way to make $ to get games :P
[06:46] <wafflejock> viktor89, ah nice
[06:47] <viktor89> unlike other recording tools, it doesn't lag the game because it uses a dedicated chip on the card :)
[06:47] <Kid-7> Hello I Need a help.
[06:47] <wafflejock> Kid-7, what's up
[06:47] <Beldar> Kid-7, TRy setting the swapiness to 10
[06:47] <Jeeves_Moss> wafflejock, lol.  I had a nice setup once.  and I will again once I move. I don't have the space for it now.  3 x 32" LCDs
[06:47] <viktor89> so when something awesome happens in CS (like a flashbang kill) I can quickly save a video of it :)
[06:47] <Beldar> !swap | Kid-7
[06:47] <Kid-7> wafflejock, Nothing special
[06:48] <wafflejock> oh sorry didn't see your original post Kid-7
[06:48] <Kid-7> Beldar, Will it work ?
[06:48] <Kid-7> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2238946
[06:48] <Kid-7> !http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2238946 | wafflejock
[06:50] <Jeeves_Moss> ......as the steam network chokes AGAIN
[06:50] <panikudlanka> hi guys i have problem now i reinstal netbook with W7 and chrome now here is firefox and cant load any page but other function are ok. i have xubuntu. ty for help
[06:50] <Beldar> Kid-7, Gotta try to find out, swapping will make it seem like it is freezing. Setup a conky  that shows swapping to watch it.
[06:50] <Kid-7> ok.
[06:50] <Kid-7> which conky?
[06:51] <wafflejock> yeah looks like it's tearing through your swap space
[06:51] <Beldar> Kid-7, The main install then any custom one used there are thousands, the ubuntu forum has a thread full of them.
[06:53] <viktor89> the maillog i have found doesn't seem to hold any content of sent emails :/ just a whole lot of lines with things like Aug  9 13:07:46 plesk courier-pop3d: authentication error: Input/output error
[06:54] <viktor89> I can find the message ID's that I want
[06:54] <Beldar> Kid-7, Watching if swapping is just a confirmation, I would do the swappiness first. On a stock install you will start swapping at more or less 60% use of the memory.
[06:55] <helmut_> hi
[06:56] <viktor89> is there a command to show a mail from it's ID?
[07:04] <mikodo> When checking all my listed users on my desktop with * cut -d: -f1 /etc/passwd *, it lists among them,  " rtkit". A quick search indicates it is normal to have it installed and is a "Realtime Policy and Watchdog Daemon". What does it watch for? Rootkits? Thanks.
[07:04] <ikonia> mikodo: no
[07:05] <mikodo> ikonia, oh
[07:05] <ikonia> it is not a root kit scanner of any sort
[07:06] <mikodo> ikonia, Thanks, I'll search more for what it is for.
[07:06] <zackiv311> anyone ever seen a desktop seemingly suspend/hibernate in 14.04 (xubuntu if it matters) and never come out of sleep?  I can't seem to figure out why it's happening, but after a little while, my desktop becomes unresponsive and won't wake up
[07:06] <ikonia> zackiv311: not an uncommon complaint
[07:07] <zackiv311> is there a fix for it? its driving me nuts
[07:07] <somsip> mikodo: Apparently "RealtimeKit is a D-Bus system service that changes the scheduling policy of user processes/threads to SCHED_RR (i.e. realtime scheduling mode) on request. It is intended to be used as a secure mechanism to allow real-time scheduling to be used by normal user processes."
[07:07] <ikonia> it depends why it's doing it, there have been a few proven reasons and a few "suggested" reasons, check the bug reports and see what best fits your situation
[07:08] <mikodo> somsip, Thanks, for googling that for me. :)
[07:08] <somsip> mikodo: np
[07:08] <frsfett4> Hello
[07:09] <SamwiseGamgee> I successfully installed Libre Office 4.3 using the terminal and the Ubuntu Software Centre recognized it as installed.
[07:09] <SamwiseGamgee> Unfortunately, there's a bunch of optional add ons listed for Libre Office 4.3, the same ones checked off that I saw before I installed anything, some of which I need.
[07:09] <SamwiseGamgee> And my problem is that I have no way of knowing whether those checkmarked optional add ons are now installed or if they were never installed.
[07:10] <ikonia> look in the package manager for the packages
[07:10] <ikonia> they will show up as installed/not installed depending on if they are
[07:10] <SamwiseGamgee> good idea
[07:10] <SamwiseGamgee> thanks ikonia
[07:11] <Sachiru> Query: Anyone recommend something similar to, but better than, McAffee SiteAdvisor or Bitdefender TrafficLight?
[07:11] <frsfett4> I got no ui before login window, what is wrong?
[07:11] <ikonia> Sachiru: what is their functionality ?
[07:11] <ikonia> frsfett4: do you get a command prompt login or just a black screen
[07:12] <Sachiru> Basically scans URLs against a blacklist and tells you if the site contains malware/spyware/badware
[07:12] <Sachiru> To prevent people from clicking "Get free Antivirus Pro 2014 With Flash Player"
[07:12] <ikonia> Sachiru: squid can be very effective like that
[07:12] <henkpoley> Anybody knows an ubuntu package that installs a DOS bootimage in grub? (for flashing hardware)
[07:12] <Sachiru> And infecting their PC with so much crapware that I have to nuke and pave.
[07:12] <ikonia> Sachiru: you use it as a proxy and download known bad lists / point it at online bad lists and it protects
[07:12] <ikonia> henkpoley: dosbox ?
[07:13] <ikonia> henkpoley: freedos ?
[07:13] <frsfett4> ikonia: I get a ui at login, but before this is command.
[07:13] <henkpoley> DOSbox does not have direct access to the harware
[07:13] <ikonia> frsfett4: sorry don't understand what you just said
[07:13] <frsfett4> I got updated my alsa.
[07:13] <Sachiru> The thing is it's supposed to be installed on laptops to be used by out-of-office guys
[07:13] <Sachiru> So ideally it should be a browser extension/addon thing
[07:13] <ikonia> Sachiru: on what OS ?
[07:13] <frsfett4> I mean before boot at login window the UI is gone.
[07:14] <henkpoley> ikonia: FreeDOS, you’d still need to figure out how to hook it up into grub. Ought be something that just drops disk image on your system (so you can mount it) and puts it in grub.
[07:14] <frsfett4> I used a NVIDIA legacy driver update, is  this the cause?
[07:14] <ikonia> frsfett4: apologies, I don't understand
[07:14] <ikonia> henkpoley: there is no "package" that installs a dos image to grub
[07:14] <henkpoley> ikonia: actually I know it existed a few years back, can’t find it though
[07:14] <frsfett4> I am using Xbuntu.
[07:15] <ikonia> henkpoley: but a small freedos partition/filesystem and an update to grub would work just fine
[07:15] <frsfett4> Before booting into ubuntu, I got no graphics.
[07:15] <henkpoley> ikonia: I know, just not that happy to muck up my grub.
[07:15] <frsfett4> Only word.
[07:15] <ikonia> henkpoley: shouldn't break it
[07:16] <henkpoley> ikonia: maybe I meant BiosDisk
[07:16] <ikonia> don't know that software at all
[07:17] <henkpoley> ikonia: ah las.. http://linux.dell.com/biosdisk/ (404)
[07:18] <SamwiseGamgee> Does Ubuntu Software Center and Synaptic Package Manager use the same names to identify an installed package?
[07:18] <ikonia> yes
[07:18] <ikonia> it's the same packages
[07:19] <frsfett4> no GUI before boot, any fix?
[07:19] <SamwiseGamgee> in Ubuntu Software Centre, Do the checkmarks mean I should still install them, or do they mean that they were marked for installation already and already successfully installed?
[07:19] <frsfett4> I installed with GUI.But now no GUI until boot at login window
[07:20] <ikonia> SamwiseGamgee: they are installed
[07:20] <Beldar> frsfett4, Ubuntu the only OS?
[07:20] <frsfett4> With Windows XP
[07:20] <KrzaQ> I have a ubuntu livecd. Is there a way I can install a new package so that I could use it during current run only?
[07:20] <SamwiseGamgee> But I can't find any of the chckmarked packages in Ubuntu Software Center also in the package manager
[07:20] <frsfett4> Beldar: what do you mean?
[07:21] <Beldar> frsfett4, In ubuntu in the terminal run sudo update-grub and see if XP shows.
[07:21] <ikonia> SamwiseGamgee: what do you mean "you can't find them" if you are looking at them - they are there
[07:21] <frsfett4> Is dual boot affecting this?
[07:21] <SamwiseGamgee> No, I carefully examined all the packages listed as installed in the Package Manager, and they are all missing
[07:22] <ikonia> SamwiseGamgee: how did you carefully exaime this ?
[07:22] <SamwiseGamgee> there are over a dozen checkmarked packages in the software centre, and they are all missing in the package manager
[07:22] <frsfett4> Found linux image: /boot/vmlinuz-3.13.0-32-generic
[07:22] <frsfett4> Found initrd image: /boot/initrd.img-3.13.0-32-generic
[07:22] <frsfett4> Found memtest86+ image: /boot/memtest86+.elf
[07:22] <frsfett4> Found memtest86+ image: /boot/memtest86+.bin
[07:22] <frsfett4> Found Microsoft Windows XP Professional on /dev/sda1
[07:22] <frsfett4> done
[07:22] <unopaste> frsfett4 you have been muted for 60 seconds as it looks like you are pasting lots of lines into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com and paste just the URL of your data here when you are unmuted
[07:22] <david_____> hi all, please help me. I have a new assus laptop. I instaleed ubuntu but something with the graphics card was not ok. So i try to install a different version. Now  i cannot boot from the usb stick anymore. I can read the usb stick in the computer. what can i do now?
[07:22] <david_____> i am stuck
[07:22] <Beldar> frsfett4, I didn't say post it. always use a pastebin, now reboot and see if the grub menu comes up.
[07:23] <SamwiseGamgee> I cross referenced the names from screen captureing the entire list then cross referenced them with the synaptic package manger and they are all missing
[07:23] <SamwiseGamgee> ikonia
[07:23] <frsfett4> you misunderstood me
[07:23] <ikonia> SamwiseGamgee: define "missing"
[07:23] <SamwiseGamgee> they are not listed, ikonia
[07:23] <SamwiseGamgee> in the package manager
[07:24] <ikonia> SamwiseGamgee: I'm pretty sure they are
[07:24] <SamwiseGamgee> even the packages that were not installed, they are not in that list either
[07:24] <Beldar> frsfett4, YOu were not even close to clear I tried to interpret you.
[07:24] <SamwiseGamgee> may be they were never installed becdause I had insalled themm using the terminal and not the ubuntu software cebntre
[07:25] <SamwiseGamgee> is that why they are missing from the synaptic package manager list?
[07:25] <ikonia> they are installed
[07:26] <SamwiseGamgee> I wish I knew what the checkmarks mean, there is no mention of the chackmarks in the manual
[07:26] <frsfett4> I mean the gui is gone at the process of booting, until the login window shows up.
[07:26] <ikonia> SamwiseGamgee: what are you talking about ???
[07:26] <SamwiseGamgee> checkmarks
[07:26] <ikonia> SamwiseGamgee: did you install packages yes/no
[07:26] <SamwiseGamgee> I don't know what the purpose of the checkmarks is, that is the problem
[07:26] <ikonia> SamwiseGamgee: did you install packages yes/no
[07:26] <SamwiseGamgee> I installed Libre Office
[07:26] <Beldar> frsfett4, What gui?
[07:27] <ikonia> SamwiseGamgee: right - did it error when installing saying "can't install" ?
[07:27] <SamwiseGamgee> I assumed there were packages installed with Libre office when I was watching the terminal do its job during installation
[07:27] <ikonia> SamwiseGamgee: then it's installed
[07:27] <ikonia> SamwiseGamgee: why are you trying to find a resaon to show it's not installed
[07:27] <ikonia> it's installed
[07:27] <SamwiseGamgee> No, the installation was entirely successful and Libre Office works
[07:27] <ikonia> great ?
[07:27] <ikonia> so what's the problem
[07:28] <frsfett4> the gui of a mouse running, I am using XFCE
[07:28] <SamwiseGamgee> My problem is not the Libre office package, it works fine, my problem is the add ons that are checkmarked
[07:28] <SamwiseGamgee> I have no way of knowing if the checkmarks mean they were installed or not
[07:28] <ikonia> SamwiseGamgee: take a screen shot of what you are talking about
[07:28] <SamwiseGamgee> and the synaptic package manager has not been helpful to determine that
[07:29] <ikonia> SamwiseGamgee: synaptic is %100 perfect for that
[07:29] <SamwiseGamgee> the screen shots doen't work for posting any more, I tried several times unsuccessfully
[07:29] <CodeGosu> if i have 12gb ram with only 7gb used, and 8gb swap can i safly run hibernation
[07:29] <ikonia> SamwiseGamgee: find a screen shot site and post a screenshot
[07:29] <SamwiseGamgee> they changed the website for screen shots and the new one does not work
[07:29] <ikonia> SamwiseGamgee: there are pleanty that work
[07:29] <Beldar> frsfett4, That is called the splash.
[07:30] <frsfett4> Yes
[07:30] <frsfett4> Splash is gone
[07:30] <frsfett4> Any fix?
[07:30] <SamwiseGamgee> also, screen shots are very challenging onthis monitor and without Photoshop
[07:30] <Beldar> frsfett4, Any changes leading to this?
[07:30] <SamwiseGamgee> Gimp does not work either
[07:30] <ikonia> no they are not
[07:30] <ikonia> there is no need for photoship
[07:30] <ikonia> gimp works fine
[07:30] <frsfett4> I updated NVIDIA legacy driver
[07:30] <ikonia> you do not need to edit images
[07:30] <SamwiseGamgee> I tried several times to edit pic files with Gimp and failed every time
[07:30] <ikonia> just take a screen shot - don't edit it, and post it to the image site
[07:31] <ikonia> SamwiseGamgee: sorry, this just sounds like massive user error
[07:31] <frsfett4> I updated NVIDIA legacy driver instead of Xorg
[07:31] <frsfett4> updated Alsa
[07:31] <SamwiseGamgee> I tried that several times, and after spending an hour trying to resgister on the new posting pic site, failed
[07:31] <ikonia> SamwiseGamgee: again this sounds like user error
[07:31] <frsfett4> Delete some foreign language font
[07:31] <ObrienDave> pebcak
[07:31] <Beldar> frsfett4, Have you noticed I preface to you with your nick?
[07:32] <SamwiseGamgee> I could not even register an account with that website
[07:32] <ikonia> SamwiseGamgee: everyone else seems able to use gimp, seems able to use the package manager, seems able to post screen shots,
[07:32] <ikonia> SamwiseGamgee: does it not seem more likley that it's you being the problem ?
[07:32] <SamwiseGamgee> Yeah, I don't like xubuntu.  I am used to doing things fast and easy on Windows
[07:32] <ikonia> SamwiseGamgee: http://postimage.org/
[07:32] <ikonia> SamwiseGamgee: no need to register
[07:32] <frsfett4> Beldar: yes, I updated NVIDIA legacy driver instead of Xorg driver
[07:32] <ikonia> SamwiseGamgee: use windows then if windows works best for you
[07:33] <ikonia> SamwiseGamgee: no point using an OS you don't actually like
[07:33] <SamwiseGamgee> that's very true
[07:33] <frsfett4> Beldar: I updated Alsa driver too, also edited /etc/fstab
[07:33] <SamwiseGamgee> ok, thanks for trying to help, ikonia, as usual, I failed again trying to do s simple task with xubuntu
[07:33] <Artemis3> SamwiseGamgee, print screen, save and upload to imgur is exactly hard so?
[07:33] <Beldar> frsfett4, Is the legacy driver straight from nvidia?
[07:34] <SamwiseGamgee> it used to be easy
[07:34] <ObrienDave> SamwiseGamgee, because you don't grasp the simplicity of Ubuntu
[07:34] <ikonia> ObrienDave: it's really not that
[07:34] <SamwiseGamgee> haha, I wish things were simple and easy, that's why I miss Windows XP
[07:34] <Kira9204> gimp is powerful, but it is ablut as unfriendly as possible
[07:34] <Kira9204> the ui is a mess
[07:34] <SamwiseGamgee> You don't need to be a programmer to use Windows, just an idiot with money
[07:35] <ikonia> there is nothing wrong with using windows
[07:35] <ikonia> SamwiseGamgee: if you're more comfortable with windows - use windows
[07:35] <Artemis3> SamwiseGamgee, there is no need to rant anymore, go there and goodbye
[07:35] <frsfett4> Beldar: I updated from ubunru hardware update.
[07:36] <SamwiseGamgee> oh yeah, the picture has my full name on it
[07:36] <Beldar> frsfett4, I'm not really a nvidia user others may be better on diagnosing why no splash if associated.
[07:36] <SamwiseGamgee> all the screen shots have my full name on them
[07:36] <SamwiseGamgee> thtat's why I wanted to use Gimp to edit them
[07:36] <SamwiseGamgee> but Gimp sucks
[07:36] <SamwiseGamgee> it's hard to use
[07:36] <trijntje> SamwiseGamgee: gnome-screenshot -w
[07:37] <trijntje> it takes a screenshot of only the relevant window, that shouldn't have your name on it
[07:37] <frsfett4> Beldar: I don`t think update driver cause this. Cause the original driver kinda slow.
[07:37] <SamwiseGamgee> that's another problem, when I tried to change my full name to my first name, xubuntu got p;issed off and told me I can't alter my user name
[07:38] <SamwiseGamgee> so I have to keep using my full name as my user name
[07:38] <trijntje> SamwiseGamgee: that is another problem, one problem at a time please
[07:38] <Beldar> frsfett4, Not really an issue I can address with confidence.
[07:38] <ObrienDave> SamwiseGamgee, and windows wont change the account name either, only the one you see on the screen
[07:38] <SamwiseGamgee> I even tried creating a new user acount but it didn't work
[07:38] <ikonia> SamwiseGamgee: "nothing" works for you
[07:38] <ikonia> SamwiseGamgee: I suggest using the OS you're more comfortable with
[07:38] <ObrienDave> ikonia, exactly my point
[07:39] <ObrienDave> pebcak
[07:39] <SamwiseGamgee> yeah, this is why I am developing an antipathy towards xubuntu
[07:39] <Artemis3> smells troll
[07:39] <ikonia> SamwiseGamgee: ok, so I think we're done now
[07:39] <SamwiseGamgee> yeah, I have to use Windows XP because I can't afford to buy Windows 7
[07:39] <frsfett4> any idea how to make epson printers working?
[07:39] <ikonia> SamwiseGamgee: best of luck
[07:39] <ObrienDave> Artemis3, been like that for 3 weeks, ya think?
[07:40] <trijntje> SamwiseGamgee: did you see my post about how to take a screenshot of only the active window?
[07:40] <frsfett4> I found no epson driver for ubuntu.
[07:40] <SamwiseGamgee> no, trijntje
[07:40] <somsip> ObrienDave: regularly for about a month now. He was in my ignore list but thought I'd see what he was up to nowadays. Same as before...
[07:40] <trijntje> SamwiseGamgee: gnome-screenshot -w -d 5
[07:40] <ObrienDave> somsip, yup, ssdd
[07:40] <frsfett4> I have a epson stylus photo 1200 and 1290 not working on ubuntu.
[07:40] <SamwiseGamgee> there is a program that runs Epson printers for all operating systems
[07:40] <trijntje> SamwiseGamgee: that commands waits 5 seconds, and then makes a screenshot of the active window
 what app?
[07:41] <Psil0Cybin> hey guys i just upgraded to 14.04, and i am having a bunch of problems
[07:41] <SamwiseGamgee> I have the name written down in my journal somwhere because I have a raelly good Epson printer
[07:41] <ObrienDave> like???
[07:41] <Psil0Cybin> i cannot get a browser to open but i can for some reason get xchat to open
[07:41] <SamwiseGamgee> Epson Photo 890
[07:41] <SamwiseGamgee> Epson Stylus Photo 890
[07:42] <frsfett4> Any driver for epson stylus photo 1200 on ubuntu?
[07:42] <ikonia> SamwiseGamgee: I suggest dealing with your own issues before trying to help others
[07:42] <Psil0Cybin> i jjust upgraded to 14.04 and im having plenty of issues what i do to try debug them
[07:42] <Psil0Cybin> it keeps crashing every application every few seconds
[07:43] <SamwiseGamgee> I just spent two days refilling the cartridges of all my printers with new ink
[07:43] <Psil0Cybin> i came from 12.04.4 lts
[07:43] <ikonia> SamwiseGamgee: I suggest dealing with your own issues before trying to help others
[07:43] <ObrienDave> Psil0Cybin, did you reboot after the upgrade?
[07:43] <Psil0Cybin> what can i do to try to debug this stuff
[07:43] <Psil0Cybin> yes i did obviously :(
[07:43] <SamwiseGamgee> that's whehn I came across that really cool program
[07:43] <Psil0Cybin> this all started after the restart
[07:43] <Psil0Cybin> i was expecting small problems but not big ones
[07:43] <ObrienDave> Psil0Cybin, NOTHING is obvious
[07:43] <ObrienDave> ask SamwiseGamgee
[07:44] <Beldar> lol
[07:44] <SamwiseGamgee> actualy i was going to ask you buys about that program, bec my pienters don't work with ubuntu
[07:44] <SamwiseGamgee> th3ey only work with Windows
[07:44] <ikonia> SamwiseGamgee: again - it sounds like you need to move back to windows
[07:45] <ObrienDave> SamwiseGamgee, i suggest you give up any plans of ever using Ubuntu and stick to windows.
[07:45] <SamwiseGamgee> I wrotne a full report of all my printer software and ink solutions after I successfully refilled all the ink cartridges and got them printing really clean type
[07:45] <SamwiseGamgee> they ware working really well now
[07:45] <ObrienDave> that's nice
[07:45] <SamwiseGamgee> I also have a Canon printer
[07:46] <trijntje> SamwiseGamgee: just think about it, would so many people use ubuntu if everything you describe is as difficult as you think it is?
[07:46] <SamwiseGamgee> Canon MP 160
[07:46] <ikonia> SamwiseGamgee: stop
[07:46] <trijntje> so maybe you just have to take the time to learn about ubuntu
[07:46] <ikonia> SamwiseGamgee: we don't need a run down of you filling up ink
[07:46] <ikonia> SamwiseGamgee: you're either going to have to a.) put in a lot more effort to work with ubuntu b.) move back to windows
[07:46] <ObrienDave> *no feeding trolls*
[07:46] <SamwiseGamgee> who asked about the Epson?
[07:46] <ikonia> SamwiseGamgee: I suggest you decide which to do
[07:46] <ikonia> SamwiseGamgee: please do not try to help others at this time
[07:47] <SamwiseGamgee> I am using both ubuntu and windows because I have three PCs
[07:47] <ikonia> SamwiseGamgee: that doesn't change anything that's been said
[07:47] <kiwi9> exit
[07:47] <kiwi9> oops ... sorry ... cu :)
[07:48] <SamwiseGamgee> ok, somone else tell me the name of tat really cool program that you can use for all types of OSs and it works on all Epson printers, not sure about Canon though
[07:48] <ikonia> SamwiseGamgee: no
[07:49] <SamwiseGamgee> I copied it already, but never installed it because I already have excellent software on Windows for all my printers
[07:50] <ObrienDave> thank you ikonia *whew*
[07:52] <annac> film
[08:00] <ObrienDave> video
[08:03] <Psil0Cybin> hey guys in 14.04 the indicator multiload plugin i took from 12.04
[08:03] <Psil0Cybin> keeps crashing
[08:04] <Ben64> Psil0Cybin: don't mix things from other versions
[08:04] <Psil0Cybin> i did not know i just upgraded thinking it would be fine
[08:04] <Psil0Cybin> would i uninstall the plugin and reinstall it?
[08:04] <Ben64> uninstall is probably a good idea
[08:05] <Psil0Cybin> so i canot use indicator-multiload?
[08:05] <Psil0Cybin> i liked it to see the packets going in and out
[08:05] <Psil0Cybin> through the graphic bar on top
[08:05] <Psil0Cybin> also google chrome does not open anymore?
[08:05] <Psil0Cybin> so confused how upgrading did so much damage :9
[08:06] <Luyin> Psil0Cybin: often upgrading isn't as good as reinstalling.
[08:06] <Psil0Cybin> alright
[08:06] <Psil0Cybin> leason learned
[08:07] <tortib> hello
[08:07] <Psil0Cybin> so i gues theres nothing i can do at the moment to fix these bugs?
[08:07] <kraiskil> what is wrong with ubuntu.com webpage - doesn't reply and ping gives a 97% packet loss?
[08:07] <tortib> I'm trying to hide processes from other users using the hidepid=2 option for /proc
[08:07] <tortib> proc is mounted as the following: proc on /proc type proc (rw,hidepid=2)
[08:07] <tortib> but it isn't hiding the processes, users are still able to see the procs
[08:07] <tortib> what am I doing wrong?
[08:08] <Psil0Cybin> Luyin: so if im having plenty of bugs like chrome does not open
[08:08] <Psil0Cybin> things keep crashing
[08:08] <Psil0Cybin> should i just uninstall and try again?
[08:09] <Psil0Cybin> like...
[08:10] <Luyin> Psil0Cybin: if you feel like there have a lot of problems emerged which don't seem much connected, it might be worth the try. But I've also heard of people where upgrading didn't cause any problems at all. ymmv
[08:10] <Ben64> Psil0Cybin: the problems usually come in when you introduce outside softwatre
[08:10] <Ben64> software*
[08:12] <tortib> Hi, is anyone awake?  I'm trying to hide processes from other users using the hidepid=2 option for /proc ; I have mounted proc with the following and it appears to be on but my users still can see all the procs...proc on /proc type proc (rw,hidepid=2)
[08:12] <Daniel0> kraiskil its not working here either
[08:15] <lang> any networking people from canonical around?  I see heavy packetloss to AS41231 from certain prefixes, other prefixes in the same source AS works fine.
[08:16] <Psil0Cybin> hmm
[08:16] <Psil0Cybin> noticed once that indicator plugin is gone things got better
[08:16] <Psil0Cybin> but i guess i have to get rid of chrome
[08:18] <tortib> can anyone help me with my problem?
[08:18] <Psil0Cybin> anyone know if their is a default network monitor for xfce, that is bigger then the default one
[08:18] <Psil0Cybin> pehaps that will show me more than instant in and outs of packets
[08:18] <cfhowlett> Psil0Cybin, ask #xfce  ?
[08:18] <yskapell> good morning all
[08:19] <Jimbolino> the ubuntu.com websites seem to be unreachable from the netherlands
[08:19] <yskapell> I upgrade Ubuntu tls from 12.04 to 14.04 using do-release-upgrade
[08:19] <tiblock> Hi. I have notebook with radeon videocard and ubuntu 12.04. Ubuntu says it can update to 14.04 but i will have some problems. Should i install 14.04?
[08:19] <yskapell> is any way to rollback to 12.04?
[08:19] <cfhowlett> yskapell, roll back = reinstall 12.04
[08:19] <eeee_> yskapell: why do you want to rollback?
[08:20] <yskapell> I want to upgrade to 14.04 a production server
[08:20] <Beldar> Jimbolino, Seems to be having a problem, this channel is not canonical connected.
[08:20] <cfhowlett> !server | Beldar,
[08:20] <yskapell> so in case that something go wrong, to have a way to rollback to the old system
[08:20] <lang> Beldar: any idea where one would fine canonical people on irc?
[08:20] <Beldar> nope
[08:20] <samuraiRM> hi
[08:20] <lang> Beldar: ok, thanks
[08:20] <samuraiRM> all
[08:20] <yskapell> reinstall is NOT an option
[08:21] <somsip> yskapell: build a copy, test it, change the DNS (or whatever)
[08:21] <cfhowlett> yskapell, if you've imaged your 12.04, you can re-create.  If not = nope
[08:21] <samuraiRM> help me ktorrrent settings?
[08:21] <yskapell> cfhowlett: When you say image you mean dd or any other way? (like clonezilla)
[08:22] <cfhowlett> yskapell, clonezilla or similar, yes
[08:22] <yskapell> hmmm
[08:22] <somsip> yskapell: does your host offer a tool for imaging? Is it a cloud host, for example?
[08:23] <yskapell> not I do not think that is a cloud and I do not think that offer any image tool
[08:23] <Gareth2> Hi all, really sorry to bug, are there any issues with the Ubuntu repo's atm ?
[08:23] <somsip> yskapell: k - personally, I'd rebuild it from scratch on 14.04
[08:24] <Gareth2> apt-get update is taking longer than usual?
[08:24] <cfhowlett> Gareth2, see the release notes for know bugs.
[08:24] <Psil0Cybin> also guys after upgrading to 14.04 from 12.04 my mouse changes shape and size depending on what i am doing if i am in firefox and over a link the mouse icon goes really big, but when i am doing my usual stuff via terminal its normal sized
[08:24] <Psil0Cybin> how can i fix this
[08:24] <eeee_> Gareth2: somebody else mentioned a problem getting to the repos from netherlands.. other than that dunno
[08:24] <yskapell> somsip: I can do that only when I have a second server which will be up as production
[08:24] <horsebrass> nah, can't check release notes
[08:24] <horsebrass> the ubuntu.com domain is down
[08:24] <cfhowlett> Psil0Cybin, have you enabled accessibility options?
[08:25] <somsip> horsebrass: fine here http://www.downforeveryoneorjustme.com/ubuntu.com
[08:25] <eeee_> Gareth2: everything working fine here using the US main server
[08:25] <Gareth2> Maybe a UK issue then ... hmmm
[08:25] <Gareth2> thanks for the help guys ;)
[08:25] <eeee_> np
[08:25] <Psil0Cybin> let me check
[08:25] <Psil0Cybin> cfhowlett:
[08:26] <cfhowlett> Gareth2, mirrors do go up/down for maintenance and such.  give it time or test a different mirror
[08:26] <Psil0Cybin> also while i check the accessibility options
[08:26] <Psil0Cybin> i also have naother issue that i cannot display any unity indicators
[08:26] <Gareth2> thanks cfhowlett ;)
[08:26] <Jimbolino> *.ubuntu.com seems to be down in the UK
[08:26] <Psil0Cybin> on xubuntu without crashing that plugin but if its gone
[08:26] <cfhowlett> Gareth2, happy2help
[08:26] <Psil0Cybin> i cannot display what wifi network i am currently using
[08:26] <Psil0Cybin> etc
[08:26] <Psil0Cybin> and to enable vpn
[08:26] <horsebrass> @Jimbolino seems to be
[08:27] <horsebrass> Reddit reckons it's a DoS
[08:27] <kraiskil> and everywhere that routs via UK :(
[08:27] <kraiskil> horsebrass, but they say it is up in the US?
[08:27] <horsebrass> yes
[08:27] <lang> it looks more like a routing issue inside Canonical
[08:28] <Jimbolino> http://www.reddit.com/r/Ubuntu/comments/2dbhcz/ubuntu_archive_repos_down/
[08:29] <Psil0Cybin> cfhowlett: no everything is default settings
[08:29] <Psil0Cybin> it seems like upgradding
[08:29] <Psil0Cybin> messed up my system
[08:29] <Psil0Cybin> i cannot see my usual icons :( like my wifi network etc on the top panel like i used to have
[08:29] <cfhowlett> Psil0Cybin, more likely, you've enabled some effect somewhere
[08:29] <Psil0Cybin> and the mouse keeps getting bigger on every url, even tho its set to default as well
[08:29] <Psil0Cybin> cfhowlett: i did not touch anything :( gah
[08:30] <Psil0Cybin> what fiile to i edit to manually set mouse theme
[08:30] <Psil0Cybin> in 14.04
[08:30] <Psil0Cybin> and size
[08:31] <Psil0Cybin> /usr/share/icons/default just has index.theme and that only has a link to the type of icon i want
[08:31] <Psil0Cybin> or mouse theme i want :(
[08:33] <Psil0Cybin> how can i get a network icon to display my wifis in 14.04? what panel would i add
[08:33] <Psil0Cybin> wavelan does not actually give me options to change wifi neteworks etc
[08:34] <Psil0Cybin> like nm-applet does not work
[08:35] <yskapell> bb guys
[08:35] <Psil0Cybin> cfhowlett: i did not set it to anything i just checked ff settings and default xfce settings
[08:35] <Psil0Cybin> the mouse hsould be normal
[08:36] <Psil0Cybin> if not the default mouse theme not getting bigger over links
[08:37] <cfhowlett> Psil0Cybin, xfce!  me too.  here's the test:   login to guest account.  if same behavior it's a system setting.  if not, it's your account setting.  fix: nuke /home/.config/xfce4
[08:37] <Psil0Cybin> damn kk
[08:38] <Psil0Cybin> how about the network applet
[08:38] <Psil0Cybin> what do i do bout that :(
[08:38] <Psil0Cybin> i cant get it to show the networks like it used to above
[08:38] <Psil0Cybin> as well
[08:38] <cfhowlett> Psil0Cybin, ALL xfce settings/customizations will go back to defaults.  you'll probably need to logout/login
[08:38] <Psil0Cybin> okay
[08:38] <Psil0Cybin> even the applets right
[08:39] <cfhowlett> Psil0Cybin, your entires windows manager system so yes
[08:41] <sveinse> ubuntu.com, lauchpad.net down? I can't reach either of them
[08:42] <nerdys0uth> us.archive.ubuntu.com is down too
[08:42] <horsebrass> ubuntu.com is down in Europe
[08:42] <horsebrass> it's all falling over
[08:42] <nerdys0uth> happening=true
[08:42] <horsebrass> RUN FOR YOUR LIVES
[08:42] <sveinse> Ubuntu or the net in general? ;)
[08:43] <horsebrass> as long as reddit stays up...
[08:43] <Siebjee> Ubuntu.com works here (Holland)
[08:43] <Gareth2> without Ubuntu ... there is no Net ... :(
[08:43] <Psil0Cybin> cfhowlett: there is also no way to get the network applet
[08:43] <cfhowlett> no FUD = works fine in China ...
[08:43] <Psil0Cybin> without resetting everything correct?
[08:43] <Psil0Cybin> just going to loose all my customizations
[08:44] <cfhowlett> Psil0Cybin, nuking your configurations will reset to default.  nn_applet should re-appear
[08:44] <Luyin> without ubuntu, there's still gentoo ;D
[08:45] <Psil0Cybin> cfhowlett: any there is no way to just get it back another way lol sorry i know i sound silly at the moment
[08:45] <export> lol is that even a really reasonable option? XD
[08:45] <Gareth2> :P Luyin
[08:45] <export> oh Ubuntu isn't doing well? Gentoo is obviously the next step for new users. lol
[08:45] <typ> that's so userfriendly
[08:45] <Luyin> hrrhrr
[08:46] <typ> why not just deplay AIX for all users?
[08:46] <typ> deploy*
[08:46] <Luyin> well, I've switched from ubuntu to gentoo some while ago, at least for about half a year. taught me a lot. now back at ubuntu for convenience reasons only.
[08:46] <ObrienDave> us.archive.ubuntu.com works in Oregon
[08:50] <Psil0Cybin> also
[08:51] <Psil0Cybin> how do i remove this amazon icon from my application list...
[08:51] <Psil0Cybin> what on earth
[08:51] <Psil0Cybin> where did that come from?!
[08:51] <horsebrass> @Psil0Cybin just right click it and unlock from the bar
[08:51] <Psil0Cybin> its coming from unity-webapps-runner
[08:52] <Psil0Cybin> how do i remove tht program
[08:52] <cfhowlett> Psil0Cybin, unity?  logout.  choose xfce / xubuntu session.  login.  no unity running
[08:52] <Psil0Cybin> okay but that is what i do via default
[08:52] <Psil0Cybin> how do i remove unity-webapps-runner
[08:52] <Psil0Cybin> can i purge the package?
[08:53] <horsebrass> no
[08:53] <horsebrass> webapps-runner does other things too
[08:53] <cfhowlett> Psil0Cybin, was this originally ubuntu?  and you added the XFCE interface?
[08:54] <Psil0Cybin> yea
[08:54] <Psil0Cybin> originally
[08:54] <Psil0Cybin> but can i re-remove this stuff
[08:54] <Psil0Cybin> like i did before
[08:55] <Psil0Cybin> how can  ifind out what package its coming from or how can i remove the stuff i did before?
[08:55] <cfhowlett> Psil0Cybin, that's where the amazon stuff came from then
[08:55] <Psil0Cybin> cfhowlett: but before i remed it via a package
[08:55] <Psil0Cybin> and i was able to remove unity lens's and remove all these icons, forgood..
[08:57] <Psil0Cybin> wierd it cannot location unity-webapps-runner
[09:03] <horsebrass> we're back in business people
[09:04] <horsebrass> repos still down though
[09:04] <Gareth2> repo's in  the UK are still quite slow, but everything else looks like its up
[09:05] <sveinse> security.ubuntu.com is still not responding (from Norway)
[09:05] <horsebrass> @sveinse seems to be just the TLDN that's working again now actually
[09:05] <blackboxcoder> hey folks, i've got some trouble. i have an ubuntu-server with apache2 (VPS) and have a domain on another hoster. the domain is redirected to the vps, works fine. now i have create a subdomain for my domain in apache but this still dont works
[09:05] <horsebrass> curses
[09:06] <Shadow}}> Hello; Might I ask what the main chat channel is on this server?
[09:07] <nard> hey, is something weird going on with security.ubuntu.com? I can't connect to it from two different devices on different networks.
[09:07] <Shadow}}> How can i attempt to use it?
[09:08] <horsebrass> @nard everything but the ubuntu top level domain is down
[09:08] <Shadow}}> Interesting... So is alot of AI bots...
[09:08] <nard> horsebrass, gotcha. Thanks, so that will be the weirdness.
[09:08] <horsebrass> so you'll be able to reach ubuntu.com, but not the repos or community.ubuntu.com or security.ubuntu.com
[09:08] <horsebrass> yep
[09:09] <xmj> moin
[09:09] <xmj> where would i find the developers channel (specifically, packaging) ?
[09:09] <horsebrass> there's a running thread on Reddit keeping people up to speed
[09:09]  * cfhowlett just completed a dist-upgrade with no problems using China mirrors
[09:10] <horsebrass> @cfhowlett unfortunately not an option in my particular corporate environment
[09:12] <somsip> !packaging | xmj
[09:13] <xmj> somsip: i'm looking for the IRC channel
[09:13] <somsip> xmj: #ubuntu-dev (or -devs) from memory
[09:13] <xmj> thanks
[09:13] <cfhowlett> !devel
[09:13] <somsip> xmj: or maybe there is a link on one of those websites
[09:13] <cfhowlett> #ubuntu-devel xmj
[09:14] <somsip> cfhowlett: ta
[09:14] <cslcm> Hi folks. Got a triple-booting MacBook Pro (OSX / Windows / Ubuntu). I've managed to get almost everything working nicely, except nvidia-settings reports "** Message: PRIME: is it supported? no" - does anyone know if it's possible to get PRIME working on a macbook?
[09:15] <xmj> cfhowlett: somsip: helpful! thanks guys
[09:15] <cfhowlett> xmj, happy2help
[09:15] <nard> got a link to the reddit thread? I'm searching for it. As I'm not a reddit user, I'm fighting to find it.
[09:19] <Gareth2> Repos are back in the UK ;)
[09:20] <horsebrass> as are secondary domains
[09:21] <facom> hello
[09:22] <gon_> is there any problem with ports.ubuntu.com?
[09:22] <Gareth2> There was in the UK gon_
[09:22] <cfhowlett> gon_, probably just temporary maintenance.  give it a bit of time
[09:22] <gon_> thanks
[09:24] <yskapell> Hello again guys
[09:24] <yskapell> one last question
[09:24] <yskapell> what is /lib/init/upstart-job ?
[09:31] <Gazmik> are the repo nodes still down?
[09:32] <horsebrass> @Gazmink they're up in the UK - where are you?
[09:32] <Gazmik> us, in california
[09:32] <horsebrass> huh, weird
[09:32] <Gazmik> they've been in and out since about 1 am
[09:32] <Gazmik> for me
[09:33] <horsebrass> it was all fine in Oregon a few minutes
[09:33] <horsebrass> ago
[09:33] <horsebrass> maybe some kind of rolling maintentance
[09:33] <horsebrass> RULES
[09:35] <k1l_> Gazmik: which repos exactly? what does "sudo apt-get update" give you?
[09:35] <Gazmik> trying to get pypar2
[09:36] <Gazmik> via sudo apt-get install pypar2
[09:36] <anon_coward> hi
[09:36] <Gazmik> and then it hangs on waiting for headers at 0%
[09:36] <Gazmik> sudo apt-get update does the same, but at 99%
[09:36] <k1l_> Gazmik: wait there for a bit
[09:37] <Gazmik> kll_: I've been at that for an hour once and 30 minutes once
[09:38] <k1l_> !paste | Gazmik
[09:39] <anon_coward> I have a question, I don't know the procedure here but if anyone is available to help it would be appreciated?
[09:39] <k1l_> anon_coward: just ask if its technical ubuntu support
[09:40] <cfhowlett> anon_coward, ask your ubuntu quesstions
[09:40] <anon_coward> I have automatic updates off but something has updated and I am being told to restart to complete updates
[09:41] <anon_coward> I would like to know what it is before I have something applied that I don't want installed
[09:41] <k1l_> anon_coward: some packages like new servers need a restart to update
[09:43] <anon_coward> is there any way to see what was dowloaded, I have a transaction number from the log file?
[09:43] <Gazmik> thanks for the update reminder kll seems I was finally forced to do so all repos working fine now
[09:44] <k1l_> anon_coward: see the log in /var/log for apt
[09:46] <anon_coward> if you mean history.log then I have checked and there is nothing timestamped that matches syslog
[09:47] <k1l_> anon_coward: ? did you not tell you did a update and some package needs a restart now?
[09:48] <anon_coward> would something try to update if autoupdates are off?  As long as its nothing to worry about then I'll go :)
[09:49] <k1l_> anon_coward: did you run a update or not?
[09:49] <anon_coward> no
[09:49] <k1l_> anon_coward: if autoupdates are off there is nothing than you that makes updates
[09:49] <horsebrass> d
[09:50] <cfhowlett>  anon_coward security updates should be automagic IMHO
[09:50] <anon_coward> there is no chance of someone remotely trying to do so?
[09:50] <idimmu> security updates should never be automagic, ever
[09:51] <anon_coward> the app gnome-user-share desktop tried to launch, failed, then the update was triggered
[09:53] <koell> How do I list packages I installed, but not their dependencies? Just the ones I typed in myself?
[09:54] <koell> I tried dpkg --get-selections | grep -v deinstall but this gives me all the dependencies as well, which is a really huge list
[09:58] <anon_coward> well, I guess I must just have some phantom paranoia left over from my time using ms windows, thanks for the help.
[09:58] <mboeru> hello, anyone know how I can get ethX naming back in ubuntu 14.04.1 ? I have tried the suggestions from here with no luck http://goo.gl/2KMK18
[10:03] <facom> ciao
[10:03] <rgfsdfgr> hi there was a channel about toolchains compiler etc etc anybody remembers the name ?
[10:04] <k1l_> !alis | rgfsdfgr
[10:05]  * rgfsdfgr slaps k1l_ with a large trout.
[10:06] <facom> list
[10:06] <facom> ciao
[10:06] <rgfsdfgr> no
[10:10] <Blenda> Hi all, do you know if EssentialB Mars graphic tablet is supported in Ubuntu 14.04?
[10:10] <cfhowlett> !tablet
[10:10] <cfhowlett> Blenda, nope not that one ...
[10:10] <cfhowlett> url
[10:11] <Blenda> thanks for your fast answer!
[10:11] <cfhowlett> Blenda, if it's got wacom/intuos foundation then yes
[10:11] <k1l_> Blenda: you could take a look into hcl
[10:11] <k1l_> !hcl | Blenda
[10:11] <mboeru> hello, anyone know how I can get ethX naming back in ubuntu 14.04.1 ? I have tried the suggestions from here with no luck http://goo.gl/2KMK18
[10:12] <napalm_> t
[10:12] <k1l_> but devices not listed there doesnt mean they dont work.
[10:12] <Blenda> cfhowlett, don't know about foundation, i just had a bamboo, and found an EssB Mars for a very low price
[10:13] <Blenda> thanks for all your answers, awesome ;à
[10:13] <cfhowlett> Blenda, have a laptop?  take it to the store and test plug!
[10:13] <Blenda> i don't
[10:13] <Blenda> i think i'll better buy a wacom, just saw it was natively supported
[10:14] <cfhowlett> Blenda, this!
[10:15] <Blenda> you helped not to make a terrible mistake, hum, lets say i have my bamboo, will it run at once in blender, or is there some tweaks to do?
[10:15] <Blenda> i'll ask on blender sry
[10:15] <Blenda> good day all :)
[10:16] <rgfsdfgr> g'day Blenda
[10:28] <XYZAFFA1R> Is there a native .pak manager?
[10:29] <k1l_> XYZAFFA1R: that is a windows package
[10:29] <XYZAFFA1R> kll_, So theres nothing?
[10:30] <k1l_> XYZAFFA1R: if its .pak its not ment for linux anyway. you could try wreckdum or winrar in wine
[10:31] <XYZAFFA1R> kll_, I have something installed that uses .pak files, any ways, when I try to run winrar through wine it doesn't work properly
[10:31] <XYZAFFA1R> I can't really get anything done
[10:33] <giuseppe_> tar xvzf buduscript_3786_2808.tar.gz -C $HOME/.xchat2
[10:34] <royalaxeVFY> ahh yes quake, great game
[10:34] <XYZAFFA1R> me?
[10:34] <XYZAFFA1R> It's not quake.
[10:35] <cslcm> Hi folks. I'm triple-booting Win, OSX, Ubuntu on my MacBook Pro 11.3 (Late 2013).  I thought I'd share some benchmark results for anyone who is interested. OSX: http://goo.gl/YUbiKH  Ubuntu: http://goo.gl/yI7NYb  Windows OpenGL: http://goo.gl/ydQVgR Windows DX11: http://goo.gl/DEtYvZ   - I am very happy to see that Ubuntu's OpenGL performance matches that of Windows
[10:35] <giuseppe_> tar xvzf buduscript_3786_2808.tar.gz -C $HOME/.xchat2
[10:36] <XYZAFFA1R> giuseppe_, why do you keep pasting that?
[10:41] <adsc> i was doing a dist upgrade over ssh, and during the post install config screens, the connection failed, how can I pick up there?
[10:44] <geirha> apt-get dist-upgrade
[10:45] <adsc> the lock file still exists
[10:46] <adsc> which means the newly started apt-get dist-upgrade can't get a lock
[10:46] <adsc> can I somehow reconnect to the old process?
[10:47] <Boscop> hi, i connected my wifi usb stick to my computer. lsusb lists it: Bus 001 Device 008: ID 0bda:8172 Realtek Semiconductor Corp. RTL8191SU 802.11n WLAN Adapter    and lsmod also: r8712u                184158  0    but i can't connect to a network
[10:48] <sqarzz> hi all, I have a question on thunderbird (I know - not ubuntu specific). Does anyone now how I can prevent thunderbird from showing hat you have new mail - when those arrive in the junk or deleted folder?
[10:50] <jhattara> is there a way to reverse the channels in my USB headset ? for some reason my Logitech headset plays right channel to left and left channel to right
[10:50] <sqarzz> the account is lightning up in blue, even though the new mail is in the trash folder
[10:50] <geirha> adsc: is it still running?
[10:51] <geirha> adsc: unless you used tmux or screen, you can't reconnect, no.
[10:51] <adsc> okay
[10:51] <adsc> i'll try to get rid of the locking process and start anew one
[10:51] <geirha> adsc: If it's still running, best you can do is kill it (NOT with -9), then resume with apt-get
[10:52] <adsc> yeah, seems I have to run dpkg configure manually
[10:53] <ActionParsnip> jhattara: http://superuser.com/questions/59481/how-to-swap-stereo-channels-in-ubuntu    maybe, you can always undo the change
[10:54] <ActionParsnip> !aptfix | adsc
[10:54] <mpourhadi_> hey guys i try to run wine for the first time but im getting these errors http://paste.ubuntu.com/8025685/
[10:54] <sergiu09876543> hello!
[10:54] <adac> With supervisord, how can I start a program as a certain user?
[10:54] <Tekkkz> hi
[10:55] <ActionParsnip> mpourhadi_: what is the output of:   cat /etc/issue
[10:55] <Tekkkz> i have a problem with the package manager apt-get
[10:55] <sergiu09876543> how can i install airmon on ubuntu?
[10:55] <ActionParsnip> !info airmon
[10:55] <sergiu09876543> thanks
[10:55] <ActionParsnip> hmm
[10:55] <horsebrass> part
[10:56] <sergiu09876543> i am beginner
[10:56] <samuraiRM> web cam on skype help me please this image command lsusb http://postimg.org/image/pbaypv6r7/7707dbc4/
[10:56] <ActionParsnip> sergiu09876543: isnt that part of aircrack-ng
[10:56] <gr33n7007h> !info aircrack-ng
[10:56] <sergiu09876543> yes, it is
[10:56] <samuraiRM> http://postimg.org/image/pbaypv6r7/
[10:56] <ActionParsnip> samuraiRM: why make an image, when the output is text? Why not use pastebin?
[10:56] <sergiu09876543> i found some informations right now
[10:56] <Tekkkz> the problem is: i need to install the 32bit zlib on 64bit system (lib32z1 & lib32z1-dev) but i have already the 64bit variant on my system (zlib1g), how can i remove this? with apt-get remove zlib1g there is an error cause package dependencies
[10:57] <Tekkkz> how can i remove this?
[10:57] <ActionParsnip> sergiu09876543: then you have the package to install.....
[10:57] <timkofu> hi guys
[10:57] <timkofu> whats wrong with this BIND9 RPZ conf? http://dpaste.com/0CH9RR6
[10:57] <sergiu09876543> hi, timkofu
[10:58] <jhattara> ActionParsnip: thanks, i'll try that
[10:58] <ActionParsnip> samuraiRM: if you run cheese do you see yourself?
[10:58] <Tekkkz> im away now thank you for no help
[10:58] <samuraiRM> yes
[10:58] <samuraiRM> whit chese i m seeing me
[10:59] <samuraiRM> http://paste.ubuntu.com/8025713/
[10:59] <ActionParsnip> timkofu: let me compare to one of mine. I didnt set this up but I have access to some configs )
[11:00] <ActionParsnip> samuraiRM: then its skype being garbage (as usual). Try some LD_CONFIG preload commands with skype, lots of examples online
[11:01] <samuraiRM> thank you
[11:01] <timkofu> ActionParsnip: thanks
[11:02] <ActionParsnip> timkofu: before the period on the last lines, don't you need what the name is a cname of....
[11:05] <eeee_> eric
[11:05] <hyde> is there a 32 bit Ubuntu server or minimal ISO available for download?
[11:05] <hyde> x86 32 bit
[11:06] <k1l_> hyde: yes. but only use 32bit if your hardware can only manage 32bit. if it can use 64bit use that
[11:06]  * Madnesscr3w anyone have a good ubuntu root
[11:06] <ActionParsnip> !mini
[11:06] <eeee_> Madnesscr3w: ubuntu root?
[11:06] <ActionParsnip> Madnesscr3w: yes, my ubuntu root is fine.
[11:07] <ActionParsnip> eeee_: '/' is also called the filesystem root ;)
[11:07] <eeee_> hehe, i know
[11:07] <swift_ninja> how do i install ubuntu in dual-boot along with windows 8.1
[11:07] <swift_ninja> ?
[11:07] <k1l_> hyde: http://de.releases.ubuntu.com/14.04.1/ubuntu-14.04-server-i386.iso
[11:07] <winem> hey, just a quick Q. can anyone recommend a good SPSS editor?
[11:07] <hyde> k1l_: can I install 32 bit libraries from repos on a 64 bit Ubuntu?
[11:08] <k1l_> hyde: ubuntu is multiarch. it will run 32bit software as fine as 64bit software on a 64bit system
[11:08] <hyde> to be precise, I will need to use a 32 bit Qt application, preferably with default Ubuntu Qt libs instead of compiling them myself
[11:10] <hyde> hmm... actually, can a 64 bit application use 32 bit libs? I have just one binary 32 bit C library, which I need to link to the application.
[11:10] <cslcm> hyde: no
[11:10] <hyde> yeah, thought so
[11:10] <timkofu> ActionParsnip: im using the example from here http://ftp.isc.org/isc/bind9/cur/9.8/doc/arm/Bv9ARM.ch06.html#id2587883
[11:10] <timkofu> the NXDOMAIN policy
[11:10] <hyde> k1l_: yeah, found it, thank you
[11:11] <BlaXpirit> so I just loaded live cd on a computer that was always running on windows
[11:11] <pitwalker> How can I install Java to work with Chromium? rpm install as deb with alien failed both browsers, but "java -version" worked; currently I installed java through the webupd8team's PPA
[11:11] <BlaXpirit> and internet just works
[11:12] <BlaXpirit> what worries me is that the pppoe connection requires login,password
[11:12] <BlaXpirit> how can it work???
[11:13] <BlaXpirit|m> using irc on mobile... did I miss anything?
[11:14] <jhattara> BlaXpirit|m: nope
[11:15] <geirha> BlaXpirit|m: If I were to guess, I'd say your router is the one loging in
[11:15] <Madnesscr3w> Can someone help me with a VPS
[11:15] <BlaXpirit|m> there is no routrr
[11:15] <BlaXpirit|m> just wire given by provider
[11:16] <BlaXpirit|m> and on windows to connect to Internet you need login and password
[11:16] <k1l_> Madnesscr3w: not if you not ask a technical question
[11:16] <geirha> so you only have one device connected to the internet via that pppoe connection, with a cable straight to the wall?
[11:16] <ActionParsnip> BlaXpirit|m: doesnt network manager handle that
[11:16] <sandman13> does Ubuntu includes all the firmwares for external or built-in wifi Adapters?
[11:17] <BlaXpirit|m> yes. That's how it was on windows
[11:17] <ActionParsnip> !firewall | sandman13
[11:17] <BlaXpirit|m> just wire to  computer
[11:17] <BlaXpirit|m> and u create mew connection  pppoe and stuff
[11:17] <cfhowlett> sandman13, "all" no.  you may need to do a bit of work after install to get wifi.  depends on your chipset
[11:17] <BlaXpirit|m> then I rebooted to live cd  and internet works immediately
[11:17] <sandman13> cfhowlett: what is included and how to check?
[11:18] <sandman13> dpkg -l | grep wifi ?
[11:18] <jhattara> BlaXpirit|m: is the username/password combination some default for everyone or individual ?
[11:18] <BlaXpirit|m> individual
[11:18] <cfhowlett> sandman13, easiest: boot a live usb.  if it works, you've got it.  if it doesn't work, after install, get a hard wire and look for additional drivers
[11:18] <k1l_> BlaXpirit|m: did you setup that connection on that live system before?
[11:18] <BlaXpirit|m> no
[11:19] <sandman13> cfhowlett: I am thinking of buying a Adapter. I am sure there are better options than that
[11:19] <cfhowlett> !hcl | sandman13, ubuntu hardware certification list
[11:19] <BlaXpirit|m> it was set up on windows xp. then I reboot into live cd for the first time and internet works immediately, as I said
[11:20] <sandman13> cfhowlett: thanks a lot
[11:20] <cfhowlett> sandman13, happy2help
[11:22] <hyde> hmm
[11:23] <hyde> so if free shows > 4 GB of memory on a 32 bit OS, it simply means, PAE is in use?
[11:23] <ActionParsnip> BlaXpirit|m: sounds like the XP install is setting up the modem
[11:23] <ActionParsnip> hyde: yes
[11:24] <ActionParsnip> hyde: 32bit kernel with PAE can use up to 64Gb RAM, but only 3.2Gb per thread
[11:24] <hyde> per thread? or per process?
[11:25] <hyde> oh, well, yeah, all address space between threads need not be shared
[11:25] <hyde> so a 32 bit process could go over 4 gigs total?
[11:25] <hyde> with multiple threads
[11:26] <ActionParsnip> hyde: yes but (for example) nonce Firefox hits 3.2Gb it will start using swap
[11:27] <ActionParsnip> hyde: even though there is lots of free RAM
[11:27] <ActionParsnip> hyde: assuming 32Gb RAM system....
[11:27] <karenflowers> hello im trying the ubuntu cd and i want to try a youtube but there is a missing flash plugin.
[11:28] <ActionParsnip> karenflowers: sudo apt-get install flashplugin-installer
[11:28] <cfhowlett> karenflowers, that's right.  kind of hard to install program to the cd ...
[11:28] <ActionParsnip> karenflowers: use TAB and ENTER to accept the license (if needed)
[11:28] <karenflowers> cfhowlett: but i apt-get irssi
[11:28] <ActionParsnip> karenflowers: then close browser and reopen
[11:29] <cfhowlett> karenflowers, I could be wrong.  go for it.
[11:29] <hyde> cfhowlett: a live CD does have a writable file system... any changes will just not get preserved over boots (with live USB they can be)
[11:30] <ActionParsnip> cfhowlett: you can install applications to the system as long as you have RAM to hold it (as the apps are installed to RAMdrive).
[11:30] <cfhowlett> hyde, ActionParsnip THAT's the ticket!  thank you for clarifying!
[11:31] <karenflowers> ubuntu@ubuntu:~$ sudo apt-get install flashplugin-installer
[11:31] <karenflowers> Reading package lists... Done
[11:31] <karenflowers> Building dependency tree
[11:31] <karenflowers> Reading state information... Done
[11:31] <karenflowers> E: Unable to locate package flashplugin-installer
[11:31] <karenflowers> ubuntu@ubuntu:~$
[11:31] <unopaste> karenflowers you have been muted for 60 seconds as it looks like you are pasting lots of lines into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com and paste just the URL of your data here when you are unmuted
[11:31] <k1l_> !find flashplugin-installer
[11:32] <cfhowlett> !info flashplugin-installer
[11:32] <k1l_> karenflowers: what live cd ubuntu version is that exactly?
[11:32] <karenflowers> do i have to put nonfree
[11:32] <karenflowers> install of installer
[11:32] <cfhowlett> karenflowers, open a terminal and report back for this command:  cat /etc/issue
[11:32] <karenflowers> its the 386 version for 2 gb of ram or less
[11:32] <ActionParsnip> karenflowers: yes as it is adobe's flash which is not opensource
[11:33] <k1l_> karenflowers: 32bit has nothing to do with amount of ram. if you got 64bit hardware use 64bit
[11:33] <karenflowers> 14.04.01
[11:33] <ActionParsnip> karenflowers: you need to run:   sudo apt-get update    first
[11:33] <karenflowers> yes i have an old laptop
[11:33] <ActionParsnip> karenflowers: how old. Bet mine's older.....
[11:33] <ActionParsnip> :)
[11:34] <karenflowers> ActionParsnip: ok thank you everyone. i might wait untill i fully install ubuntu before i update
[11:34] <karenflowers> its in my ram and i only have 2 gb
[11:34] <cfhowlett> karenflowers, your laptop might run better with lubuntu/xubuntu.   suggest you test.  luubuntu is optimized for low spec/old machines
[11:35] <karenflowers> acer aspire 5610Z
[11:35] <karenflowers> 1.6 ghz
[11:35] <karenflowers> ok thanks i might try that one. its nice to be able to use things my windows is so slow to load
[11:36] <linuxuz3r> hi
[11:37] <linuxuz3r> i want to move a home folder to a different drive
[11:37] <linuxuz3r> or partition how do i go about doing this
[11:37] <yskapell> is any way to check if the cable is faulty on Ubuntu?
[11:37] <karenflowers> I did an update and then a flashinstall and it still could not find it
[11:37] <yskapell> I cannot ping google.com nor any ip address
[11:37] <k1l_> linuxuz3r: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Partitioning/Home/Moving
[11:37] <eeee_> linuxuz3r: mv /home/<folder> /path/to/destination
[11:38] <yskapell> I brought down & up the interface but still nothing
[11:38] <k1l_> eeee_: its not that easy. see my link for explanation
[11:38] <eeee_> ok
[11:40] <yskapell> if you have any idea let me know
[11:48] <absk007> how to know the version of distro i've installed?
[11:49] <masterkorp> hello
[11:49] <JoeyD104> sup
[11:49] <ActionParsnip> absk007: cat /etc/issue
[11:49] <masterkorp> can't i just dd if=ubuntu-14.04.1-desktop-amd64.iso of=/dev/sdb bs=1M  ?
[11:49] <ActionParsnip> masterkorp: yes, assuming you checked sdb is your USB stick
[11:50] <q_a_z_steve> Following this http://azure.microsoft.com/en-us/documentation/articles/virtual-machines-linux-how-to-attach-disk/ for 14.04.1 VM, and for the life of me I cannot write to the disk!
[11:51] <luizgorak> =i
[11:51] <luizgorak> +i
[11:51] <xubunto> i have a question about what i can remove from a folder for space
[11:51] <JoeyD104> can anyone direct me to basic step by step instructions on how to install ubuntu OS
[11:52] <JoeyD104> ?
[11:52] <ActionParsnip> !install
[11:52] <ActionParsnip> xubunto: uninstall old kernels is a great way to claw back space
[11:52] <JoeyD104> thanks dude! I will probably be back with more questions
[11:52] <xubunto> ActionParsnip: it is a relatively new install
[11:53] <xubunto> within the past year
[11:53] <xubunto> i have an ls -lah on the pastebin
[11:53] <ActionParsnip> xubunto: you will have installed a few kernels since then. Each kernel uses 120Mb each
[11:54] <xubunto> ActionParsnip: my goal is to allow sys updates. it isnt allowing it right now because the boot is too full
[11:54] <absk007> ActionParsnip, found another nyc one. "lsb_release -a"
[11:54] <ActionParsnip> xubunto: then you should definately remove old kernels.
[11:54] <ActionParsnip> xubunto: that will remove files from /boot properly
[11:54] <ActionParsnip> absk007: that too
[11:55] <xubunto> ActionParsnip: what is the command to do this?
[11:55] <geirha> xubunto: there's no pastebin
[11:55] <xubunto> geirha: this is my pastebin: http://paste.ubuntu.com/8026086/
[11:56] <ActionParsnip> xubunto: if you run:   uname -r    you will see the running kernel version
[11:57] <ActionParsnip> xubunto: if you run:   dpkg -l | grep linux-image     you will see the installed kernels. You can remove any installed kernel but not the running kernel and not the metapackage, If you pastebin the output of the commands I can advise (if you'd prefer)
[11:58] <xubunto> ActionParsnip: i am not on my linux computer atm, ill use these commands this afternoon
[11:58] <ActionParsnip> xubunto: no worries, if I'm not about then others can advise how to remove the surplus kernels :)
[11:58] <xubunto> thank you ActionParsnip
[11:58] <geirha> well, you have four kernels you can remove at least. That'll give you some space
[11:59] <ActionParsnip> xubunto: wait, you can run that command now? and you got the output shown in your pastebin?
[12:00] <xubunto> ActionParsnip: what geirha was looking at was a ls -lah output when i ran it against my /boot folder
[12:00] <ActionParsnip> xubunto: yes but did you run that just now or is that an old pastebin
[12:00] <xubunto> ActionParsnip: ran it today
[12:01] <ActionParsnip> xubunto: but can you run more commands right now?
[12:01] <xubunto> no
[12:06] <ActionParsnip> xubunto: ahh i see, just confused me with the 'later' bit but you had the pastebin from just now..
[12:06] <xubunto> ActionParsnip: i thought it might have been useful to have it on hand
[12:06] <xubunto> so i ran that before i left for work
[12:07] <ActionParsnip> xubunto: no worries, just threw me off
[12:07] <xubunto> ill likely be back later with some questions about how to properly clear this
[12:07] <xubunto> thanks for hte help geirha and ActionParsnip
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[12:11] <ActionParsnip> samuraiRM: what is the output of:   cat /etc/issue; uname -a
[12:12] <samuraiRM> are a step away from solving
[12:12] <stetho> Hi. Does anyone know if there's something "special" you need to do with the DHCP option ntp-servers? My company doesn't allow NTP requests in or out and has its own NTP servers. My DHCP server has option ntp-servers pointing to the internal NTP servers but when I install Ubuntu it waits a long time at the "getting the time from an NTP server" message and, according to the logs, fails. After install is completed if I manually set the servers in ntp.conf
[12:12] <stetho>  everything works fine. So it would seem that the Ubuntu installer is ignoring the option ntp-servers setting or I'm missing another step that I need to take.
[12:12] <ActionParsnip> samuraiRM: what is the output of:   cat /etc/issue; uname -a
[12:14] <ActionParsnip> samuraiRM: 2 lines pasted here is ok :)
[12:14] <l337> does anyone know how can I find/set my FQDN on a VPS?
[12:15] <samuraiRM> ok
[12:15] <jeffreylevesque> I tried to ping google
[12:15] <jeffreylevesque> And got "92 bytes from router (192.168.2.1): Destination Net Unreachable"
[12:15] <jeffreylevesque> Is that confirmation my network is down?
[12:16] <ActionParsnip> jeffreylevesque: is it a home network?
[12:16] <jeffreylevesque> Yea sir
[12:16] <ActionParsnip> jeffreylevesque: what is the connection medium please?
[12:16] <ActionParsnip> jeffreylevesque: wired ? wireless?
[12:17] <samuraiRM> http://paste.ubuntu.com/8026266/ you see
[12:17] <jeffreylevesque> Yes sir
[12:17] <ActionParsnip> jeffreylevesque: which!?
[12:17] <Pumpkin-> that is the router at 192.168.2.1 saying it has no idea how to get to whatever it was you pinged. If the router just has a LAN side and a WAN (internet) side, it is likely the WAN connection is down.
[12:17] <ActionParsnip> samuraiRM: ok, thats not the output of the 2 commands I gave.....
[12:18] <ActionParsnip> jeffreylevesque: wired XOR wireless?
[12:18] <jeffreylevesque> Wired
[12:19] <samuraiRM> when i you give me?
[12:19] <samuraiRM> path?
[12:19] <ActionParsnip> jeffreylevesque: do you have the activity lights flashing around the Ethernet port on your system?
[12:20] <ActionParsnip> [13:11] <ActionParsnip> samuraiRM: what is the output of:   cat /etc/issue; uname -a
[12:20] <ActionParsnip> samuraiRM: no path, just 2 commands. very simple.....
[12:21] <samuraiRM> give me the commands?
[12:22] <SiriusLi> Hey, I read on distrowatch that the ubuntu documentation needed polishing.  I was wondering how exactly I might help with that?
[12:22] <ActionParsnip> [13:19] <ActionParsnip> [13:11] <ActionParsnip> samuraiRM: what is the output of:   cat /etc/issue; uname -a
[12:22] <jeffreylevesque> ActionParsnip: I have a MacBook, so no lights
[12:22] <ActionParsnip> samuraiRM: 3rd time now.
[12:22] <samuraiRM>  cat /etc/issue; uname -a
[12:23] <ActionParsnip> jeffreylevesque: standard ethernet ports have lights but hey...its a crapbook
[12:23] <ActionParsnip> samuraiRM: YES
[12:23] <ActionParsnip> samuraiRM: run those commands, what is the output?
[12:23]  * ActionParsnip despairs
[12:23] <samuraiRM> ivan@ivan-P4i65G:~/Scrivania$  cat /etc/issue; uname -a
[12:23] <samuraiRM> Ubuntu 14.04.1 LTS \n \l
[12:23] <samuraiRM> Linux ivan-P4i65G 3.13.0-33-generic #58-Ubuntu SMP Tue Jul 29 16:47:17 UTC 2014 i686 i686 i686 GNU/Linux
[12:23] <ActionParsnip> samuraiRM: finally
[12:24] <samuraiRM> i m sorry
[12:24] <ActionParsnip> samuraiRM: if you run:    LD_PRELOAD=/usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu/libv4l/v4l2convert.so skype      do you see any warnings or errors in the terminal?
[12:25] <samuraiRM> no error
[12:26] <ActionParsnip> samuraiRM: ok and can you see yourself in skype?
[12:27] <samuraiRM> yes
[12:28] <samuraiRM> in the home in the output device video http://postimg.org/image/pye77nls7/86c4ccd3/
[12:30] <ActionParsnip> samuraiRM: then remove the word 'env' from the .desktop file you pastebinned earlier, job done
[12:30] <samuraiRM> but in the tethttp://postimg.org/image/3ufgxqfzn/76ff3c4e/sing
[12:30] <samuraiRM> test*
[12:30] <q_a_z_steve> I spun up a local Virtualbox version, and mounted a vhd and a vdi besides the originals created during config. Same issue. So what am I missing by using the guide?
[12:32] <ActionParsnip> samuraiRM: can you repost the URL please, its mixed in with your typing
[12:33] <Guest17918> can anyone help me find out what's my FQDN on a VPS? I already tried using reverse dns lookup
[12:35] <ActionParsnip> Guest17918: are you chatting from it now?
[12:35] <samuraiRM> if i removed the command "env" error
[12:36] <Sven_vB> I bootet trusty thar live cd from USB on a notebook, opened the power settings (sidebar -> tools icon -> battery icon), set both ac/battery mode actions for lid close to "do nothing", closed the preferences dialog, closed the lid... and the notebook began transition to standby mode, thus losing wifi connection. what else can i do in attempt to remote-control it while its lid is closed?
[12:37] <Guest17918> ActionParsnip: what do you mean?
[12:37] <Guest17918> ActionParsnip: from the VPS? no
[12:38] <ActionParsnip> Guest17918: if you do then you could whois yoursef
[12:38] <gr33n7007h> Guest17918, hostname -f
[12:44] <hyde> on ubuntu server after apt-get install lxde and booting to destkop, trying to insert CD (with VirtualBox but I don't think that makes a difference), I get permission denied. The current user is member of the cdrom group.
[12:44] <hyde> what else might be needed to allow the DE to mount disks?
[12:45] <procton> We have an strange dns issue on Ubuntu 10.04 server. Sometimes after boot, the DNS does not work. Rebooting the server ussually fixes the issue. I have not yet tried to simply restart networking in those situations. We rarely reboot the server. Any thoughts?
[12:47] <Sven_vB> procton, i'd test restarting just network on a spare server
[12:47] <q_a_z_steve> I'm just trying to mount a drive on a VM.
[12:49] <procton> Sven_vB: Do not currently have a spare server. :/ I have to wait for inactive hours and try to reproduce the problem. You have not heard of such strange behaviour before?
[12:51] <Sven_vB> procton, i might have, but with 10.04 that would've been so far in the past i might not remember
[12:52] <procton> Sven_vB: It was a long-shot to ask anyhow. Thanks anyway.
[12:53] <Sven_vB> have you checked the usual stuff, logs, restarting dns service etc?
[12:53] <powwowwow> hello everyone, I'd like to import a public gpg key, but nothing happens when I select 'import'
[12:54] <ActionParsnip> powwowwow: import it into what?
[12:54] <procton> Sven_vB: I thought I had fixed it the previous occation by updating the resolv config. I _think_ I simply restarted networking at that time, but I cannot remember. It was months ago.
[12:55] <powwowwow> ActionParsnip, into my keyring program
[12:55] <ActionParsnip> powwowwow: why didnt you say that....?
[12:55] <powwowwow> ActionParsnip, thought it was obvious
[12:56] <ActionParsnip> powwowwow: not at all, you can import it in to ~/.ssh/authorized_keys to allow SSH connections without password
[12:56] <ActionParsnip> powwowwow: and others
[12:57] <Sven_vB> procton, consider writing an experiences blog... you can re-read how you solved a problem ago, and it can also show your experience when looking for a job.
[12:57] <procton> Sven_vB: IIRC it has only occured twice... since 2010. I think the IT department have changed DNS servers, which may or may not be the reason.
[12:58] <Sven_vB> procton, well, you could check which DNS servers are being used and compare with which *should* be used
[12:58] <powwowwow> ActionParsnip, should I make a sacrifice at the altar for forgiveness?
[12:58] <procton> Sven_vB: Servr maintenance is not part of my job description, but the development server is maintained by us developers. Writing a log of how it was resolved is a good idea though.
[12:59] <procton> Sven_vB: They are correct, but still the server failed to find any host names... It has occured twice in the past 3 months or so.
[12:59] <GothPaw> using 12.04 "update Manager" was in the middle of updating, but has been sitting now for over 30 hours without doing anything, It says the following: run-parts: executing /etc/kernel/postinst.d/zz-update-grub 3.13.0-32-generic /boot/vmlinuz-3.13.0-32-generic
[12:59] <GothPaw> any assistance please
[13:00] <ActionParsnip> powwowwow: please
[13:00] <ActionParsnip> powwowwow: what keyring program are you using please?
[13:01] <Sven_vB> procton, is the dns failing right now?
[13:01] <ActionParsnip> powwowwow: something like this http://www.debuntu.org/how-to-importexport-gpg-key-pair/
[13:01] <hyde> GothPaw: was this just normal update within 12.04, or where you upgrading to 14.04? (I don't know a solution either way, but it might be relevant for someone else)
[13:02] <GothPaw> hyde: can't say for certain as it didn't really specify.
[13:02] <procton> Sven_vB: I cannot be certain that is the root cause. It could be a consequence.
[13:02] <powwowwow> ActionParsnip, I'm using seahorse
[13:03] <hyde> GothPaw:  then probably normal update, the dist upgrade should be a separate button and probably ask for extra confirmation
[13:03] <procton> Sven_vB: The server cannot find the windows domain controller, thus we cannot log in. We can only login as root locally on the server. We can ping IPs, though, so the networking seems to be working.
[13:05] <Sven_vB> procton, i'd say a dev server could use a (fallback) login mechanism that doesn't rely on other services being up
[13:06] <Guest17918> my rDNS is server.mydomain.com, should I create an MX record for it?
[13:06] <procton> Sven_vB: It could, and should really, but we have not set up any.
[13:06] <ActionParsnip> powwowwow: could've told us that too...
[13:06] <ActionParsnip> powwowwow: come on dude....think about it, you need to fill us in
[13:07] <powwowwow> ActionParsnip, sorry, I see your point. there's no need to make you ask for each detail, sure.
[13:08] <ActionParsnip> powwowwow: http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-software-2/how-can-i-import-a-public-key-into-seahorse-763503/
[13:08] <ActionParsnip> powwowwow: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2012433
[13:09] <powwowwow> ActionParsnip, neither of these relates to my problem. as I told, I select import and nothing happens.
[13:09] <soee> hi, what would be the command to zip all files in direcotry including dotfiles ?
[13:15] <procton> soee: Noone seems to answer... My guess is "zip -r file.zip directory_to_zip"
[13:15] <soee> procton: it is waht i did, will check soon if dotfiles are included
[13:15] <kamran> hi, my CPU usage is high when idle, and Xorg uses 20% when idle, around 70 50% when moving windows ! when i enable tear free it gets near 100% when moving ! and also my computer starts to lag, while gpu usage remains the same, jumps from 0 to 19% rapidly !
[13:16] <geirha> soee: why use zip at all?
[13:16] <vebb> I'm an idiot. OK, that's done. So if I'm connecting to Freenode on SSL, do I need to open the ports via iptables? Seems redundant...
[13:16] <kamran> i can't keep tearfree off, it tears so horribly
[13:16] <vebb> or does it?!
[13:16] <MrSassyPants> libreoffice letter assistant is not working, other assistants are working. Did do google. Only solution left was overriding ubuntu packet manager and installing libreoffice manually. Any alternatives?
[13:16] <soee> geirha: i just want to move bunchof files from one server to another
[13:17] <geirha> soee: I'd recommend rsync or tar then
[13:17] <olivier_bK> do you know the name of the package for the command ping ?? because i cant find  it on my linux
[13:17] <geirha> depending on how you can connect between the two
[13:17] <vebb> the command for ping
[13:17] <vebb> is ping
[13:17] <olivier_bK> the name of the package
[13:17] <geirha> soee: With zip you'd lose file metadata
[13:17] <olivier_bK> for install it
[13:18] <vebb> https://www.dropbox.com/s/35c4bexwdibqvn7/Screenshot%202014-08-13%2001.17.57.png
[13:18] <hateball> kamran: What GPU chipset and driver are you using?
[13:18] <soee> geirha: well im using ssh for accounts on shared hosting
[13:18] <kamran> im using Gigabyte R7 250x oc 2gb and flrx
[13:18] <powwowwow> will I get some help?
[13:18] <kamran> hateball: im using Gigabyte R7 250x oc 2gb and flrx (for notfication)
[13:19] <vebb> ummmmmmmm
[13:19] <vebb> ping is default.
[13:19] <geirha> soee: In that case rsync is good.  rsync -a local_dir/ user@host:/place/to/put/it
[13:19] <hateball> kamran: Ok. Sadly I know nothing about Ati/AMD, but perhaps someone else does now that those details are here :)
[13:20] <kamran> hateball : ok thanks:) im really regreting my 30$ save by buying amd:( nvidia doens't have this kind of problems? also ige t weird glitches in tf2
[13:20] <soee> geirha: ok ill try that, thank you
[13:20] <olivier_bK> vebb, i cant find it
[13:20] <procton> soee: For slow connections, rsync can compress the data for you with "-z".
[13:20] <olivier_bK> i write whereis ping
[13:20] <olivier_bK>  i get nothing
[13:20] <vebb> whereis ping?
[13:20] <vebb> why not write ping
[13:21] <vebb> ➜  ~  whereis ping
[13:21] <vebb> ping: /bin/ping /usr/share/man/man8/ping.8.gz
[13:21] <powwowwow> hello everyone, I'd like to import a public gpg key into seahorse, but nothing happens when I select 'import'. can you help please?
[13:21] <kamran> hi, my CPU usage is high when idle, and Xorg uses 20% when idle, around 70 50% when moving windows ! when i enable tear free it gets near 100% when moving ! and also my computer starts to lag, while gpu usage remains the same, jumps from 0 to 19% rapidly ! , i can't turn tear free off because my screen tears horrible, but even without it 20% is high. my GPU is Gigabyte R7 250x oc 2gb and im using flrx
[13:21] <geirha> soee: and if the rsync gets interrupted halfway through, just run the same rsync command again and it'll continue were it left off
[13:22] <hateball> kamran: I'm not saying nVidia doesnt have bugs, just that I am not in the know about AMD and any possibly bugs there
[13:23] <kamran> hateball: oh ok:) thanks anyway, i heard nvidia doesn't have much problems but still has some, they told me its really better than amd, well after i already bought it !
[13:23] <hateball> kamran: Sadly this has been my experience as well, which is why I am sticking to nVidia or Intel
[13:24] <kamran> hateball: :( i already paid 150$ for it and i can't tell them it lags ! well, atleast i learnt from my mistake !!! before buying someguy told me they're same :)
[13:24] <TJ-> kamran: Have you investigated the log-files (in "/var/log/") - in particular, for Xorg, "/var/log/Xorg.0.log" but also the kernel log "/var/log/kern.log". In the user's home directory also "$HOME/.xsession-errors"
[13:25] <kamran> TJ- : hi, i looked at those files, do you want to pastebin it? im not sure what to look for
[13:25] <gr33n7007h> powwowwow, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2012433
[13:25] <kamran> TJ-: its very long !
[13:26] <TJ-> kamran: Yeah, great isn't it, all that free information!?
[13:27] <TJ-> kamran: Start with Xorg.0.log see if there are any warnings "(WW)" or errors "(EE)"
[13:27] <kamran> TJ-: they're just imformation, is tehre suppost to be soemthing like an error?
[13:27] <kamran> TJ-: ok:)
 why am I getting links that have nothing to do with my problem? are you busy or is it the new form of channel help?
[13:27] <powwowwow> this is the third link, I can google things, too!
[13:27] <TJ-> kamran: Then look in "kern.log" at the timestamps when the X server is being laggy, see if the kernel is reporting errors or warnings
[13:28] <kamran> TJ-: this is filled with EE and WW
[13:28] <folbofasolin> help :c I updated from 12.04 to 14.04 and I can't login
[13:29] <kamran> TJ-: for example this is one: [     2.987] (EE) AIGLX error: failed to open /usr/X11R6/lib64/modules/dri/fglrx_dri.so, error[/usr
[13:29] <|Marco|> folbofasolin: can't login from gui login or console ?
[13:29] <TJ-> kamran: To diagnose faults I often leave a 'tail' on kern.log (this is more useful for device attach/detach but can help for GPU too) with "tail -f /var/log/kern.log", then with that terminal window still visible I try to provoke the issue, and see what messages the kernel sends at that point
[13:29] <folbofasolin> |Marco|: gui login
[13:29] <TJ-> kamran: Congratulations! You've just found the problem
[13:29] <folbofasolin> after login screen freezes
[13:29] <kamran> TJ-: ok
[13:29] <kamran> TJ-: :) what exactly is it?
[13:30] <kamran> TJ-: my net is unstable, could that be currpted download?
[13:30] <|Marco|> folbofasolin: ah, I had that too..
[13:31] <TJ-> kamran: You notice the file that is not opened has a name ending in "_dri" ... that's the kernel Direct Rendering Interface (DRI), *required* for 3D acceleration. So that confirms my suspicion that the system is currently doing software rendering (which is hideously slow) instead of hardware accelerated rendering
[13:31] <|Marco|> try logging in via console
[13:31] <|Marco|> ctrl+alt+f1/f2
[13:31] <kamran> TJ-: do you know how can i turn it off?
[13:31] <folbofasolin> I did 3458787345 times |Marco|, I reinstalled compiz, uninstalled nvidia, everthing
[13:31] <TJ-> kamran: A corrupted download will rarely install, although it is possible. The package archives have checksums to prevent installing corrupted packages
[13:32] <kamran> TJ-: oh, ok than, so, i must see if software render is on, but i dont know how :)
[13:32] <|Marco|> folbofasolin: can you check if you are the owner of your /home folder ?
[13:32] <TJ-> kamran: That failed file has 'fglrx' in its name which also tells us it is part of the AMD/ATI proprietary driver... so now we ask how you installed that, was it from the Ubuntu partner archives, or directly via a download from the AMD/ATI web-site ?
[13:33] <folbofasolin> |Marco|: do you know a command?
[13:33] <kamran> TJ-: i went to additional drivers  and chosed flrx , something happened to my pc so i restarded and did it again
[13:33] <|Marco|> ls -l /home
[13:33] <|Marco|> your username should be there
[13:34] <folbofasolin> |Marco|: yes, there is my username
[13:35] <|Marco|> hrm..
[13:36] <ramsrambo> Need help connecting to VPN on any of these servers
[13:36] <ramsrambo> http://www.vpngate.net/en/
[13:36] <folbofasolin> I can't see unity nor kde
[13:36] <kamran> TJ-: i gues ubuntu partner because i got it from additional drivers !!! but my net disconnected in middle of it, i closed it and opened it again and pressed apply again
[13:36] <aeme> saludos al canal, alguien que hable español me puede echar un cable para conectar un disco externo por usb que esta en ntfs para poder sacar los archivos que necesito? soy novato, gracias de antemano
[13:36] <cfhowlett> !es | aeme,
[13:36] <|Marco|> do you know if you have kdm/gdm/lightdm/whatever login manager ?
[13:37] <folbofasolin> kdm and lightdm
[13:38] <TJ-> kamran: OK first thing we should do is check the downloaded packages checksum to be sure it is good. If we know that, you can then confidentially purge the current fgrlx installation, reboot to a clean fully open-source driven GPU, and then re-install the fgrlx package
[13:38] <|Marco|> okay: sudo service lightdm restart
[13:38] <ramsrambo>  Need help connecting to VPN on any of these servers
 http://www.vpngate.net/en/ ?
[13:38] <|Marco|> and
[13:38] <TJ-> kamran: Can you tell me the *exact* version of the package by doing "apt-cache policy fglrx"
[13:38] <folbofasolin> I logged - screen turned black, only cursor visible
[13:39] <kamran> TJ-: how do i checksum?:O  if its currpted, does it mean i have to reinstall ubuntu? i stayed awake till 3am many nights :D
[13:39] <|Marco|> check /var/log/auth.log if there is any reason why it won't let you log in
[13:39] <powwowwow> hello everyone, I'd like to import a public gpg key into seahorse, but nothing happens when I select 'import'. can you help please?
[13:39] <|Marco|> you could try installing some other light desktop manager to see if that lets you through
[13:39] <kamran> TJ-:   Installed: (none)   Candidate: 2:13.350.1-0ubuntu2   Version table:      2:13.350.1-0ubuntu2 0         500 http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ trusty/restricted amd64 Packages         100 /var/lib/dpkg/status
[13:40] <kamran> TJ-: im using lastest 14.04 ,
[13:40] <|Marco|> xfce4, fluxbox, openbox are some exsamples
[13:40] <folbofasolin> |Marco|: I have kde, it hangs up on login too
[13:41] <|Marco|> what are you trying to log in to ?
[13:41] <|Marco|> kde unity blarg ?
[13:41] <folbofasolin> unity
[13:41] <folbofasolin> atm
[13:41] <|Marco|> install something light OTHER than those two
[13:42] <folbofasolin> okay
[13:42] <TJ-> kamran: OK, that tells us the package is *not* installed ... which certainly confirms a problem. I need to see the Xorg.0.log. Please "pastebinit /var/log/Xorg.0.log"
[13:42] <kamran> TJ-: http://paste.ubuntu.com/8026887/ , pastebin for beter read
[13:43] <kamran> TJ-: ok
[13:44] <kamran> TJ-: http://paste.ubuntu.com/8026897/ it took long to do it ! also tool long to download it again, means its a huge file !
[13:44] <folbofasolin> |Marco|: fresh openbox works
[13:44] <kamran> 1614 lines
[13:45] <pbx> xchat puzzle: i have accidentally muted a user (a bot in fact) and can't figure out how.  the bot nick is not in any of the configs inside ~/.xchat
[13:45] <folbofasolin> many errors
[13:47] <ELFrederich> Is there any desktop support for the Nvidia Tegra K1?
[13:47] <DJones> pbx: Assuming you've muted them in a channel on freenode, the mute isn't specific to your xchat, the mute is on the network itself
[13:48] <pbx> DJones, it's not freenode, it's my company's internal IRC
[13:48] <TJ-> kamran: Here's a shell command that can generate the list of fglrx packages we need to check, and their checksums. Run it to ensure it gives results on your system: "awk '/Package: fglrx/{P=$0} /^MD5sum/ && P {print P; print $0; P=""} ' /var/lib/apt/lists/gb.archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_trusty_restricted_binary-amd64_Packages  "
[13:48] <Akshay> Hi there?
[13:48] <Akshay> anyone alive?
[13:48] <pbx> Akshay, just ask your question
[13:48] <enchilado> Akshay: maybe just ask y-
[13:48] <kamran> TJ-: awk: cannot open /var/lib/apt/lists/gb.archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_trusty_restricted_binary-amd64_Packages (No such file or directory)
[13:49] <Akshay> facing issue while upgrading ubuntu 12.10
[13:49] <enchilado> It's not really helpful to get people's attention when the don't even know what you need help with
[13:49] <Akshay> It's showing Failed to fetch
[13:49] <DJones> pbx: ok, I would still have thought it was specific to a the internal irc network though, the command to unmute may well depend on what IRC software the network is running
[13:49] <Akshay> Network problem
[13:49] <Akshay> And my internet is working
[13:49] <|Marco|> folbofasolin: what type of errors ?
[13:49] <pbx> DJones, it's only xchat that has the problem. other clients (e.g. quassel) voice the bot
[13:49] <enchilado> Why would you upgrade to 12.10?
[13:50] <Akshay> i'm upgrading from 122.10
[13:50] <Akshay> 12.10*
[13:50] <Akshay> sorry for the typo
[13:50] <folbofasolin> |Marco|: some internal errors, i could't read log
[13:50] <folbofasolin> 1 app c rash
[13:51] <enchilado> Oh, my mistake. I don't know how my mind inserted a "to" there.
[13:51] <DJones> pbx: Is it all xchat clients (on different machines) or just your xchat on its own, if its the latter, I wonder whether its just been set to ignore the user/bot
[13:51] <Akshay> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2239172
[13:51] <Akshay> This is for you enchilado
[13:51] <pbx> DJones, it's just mine.  it's pretty clearly been set to ignore, i just can't for the life of me figure out how to unset it.
[13:52] <TJ-> kamran: Oops sorry, I left the package name for the UK GB country in my settings! OK ... do "grep 'archive.ubuntu.com' /etc/apt/sources.list | pastebinit" and that'll tell us which repository mirror your system is using
[13:53] <DJones> pbx: Might be worth joining #xchat (I think thats xchats own support channel), somebody there might have an idea, I use irssi myself so I can't think how you'd remove it
[13:53] <kamran> TJ-: http://paste.ubuntu.com/8026957/
[13:53] <pbx> DJones, good call, thanks.  ironically the xchat website doesn't mention that channel :)
[13:54] <kamran> TJ-: downloaded pastebinit :) now it wont take long
[13:54] <DJones> pbx: I wasn't 100% certain that was the right channel
[13:54] <kamran> TJ-: http://paste.ubuntu.com/8026971/ this is version that console gave me
[13:54] <Akshay> Could anyone help me please?
[13:55] <jhattara> can Ubuntu network manager handle multiple simultaneous vpn connections ?
[13:55] <zipc1> how do i fix this http://paste.ubuntu.com/8026970/  ?  an internet connection problem?
[13:55] <TJ-> kamran: OK: "awk '/Package: fglrx/{P=$0} /^MD5sum/ && P {print P; print $0; P=""} ' /var/lib/apt/lists/archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_trusty_restricted_binary-amd64_Packages  "
[13:56] <kamran> http://paste.ubuntu.com/8026987/
[13:56] <kamran> TJ-: http://paste.ubuntu.com/8026987/
[13:57] <cfhowlett_> !eolupgrade > Akshay,
[13:57] <cfhowlett_> !eolupgrade | Akshay
[13:58] <June79> Hi, I'm an IRC newb.  Is this where I can meet some other developers and bounce ideas around or is there a better place?
[13:58] <TJ-> pbx: re xchat: "/unignore <mask>" which is listed using "/ignore" ... assuming it is an ignore entry
[13:58] <Akshay> Thanks cfhowlett and ubottu
[13:58] <cfhowlett_> !contribute | June79
[13:59] <TJ-> kamran: thats good... now we use that to check any local packages stored in APTs cache to ensure they match
[13:59] <cslcm> Can anyone tell me why people watch daytime television?
[13:59] <Akshay> I know it's EOL, but right now i'm running the wibu version and my windows os is not working
[13:59] <Pici> cslcm: The folks in #ubuntu-offtopic probably know.
[13:59] <Akshay> so, can't install a fresh one now
[13:59] <kamran> TJ-: can you tell me how to do it?
[13:59] <cslcm> Pici: I doubt it
[13:59] <Akshay> I'd take the long route though
[13:59] <cfhowlett_> Akshay, wubi?  even worse!
[14:00] <Akshay> yes, wubi*
[14:00] <TJ-> kamran: I shall... I have to download the fglrx files first, give me a few minutes
[14:00] <Akshay> sorry for the typo again. I always confuse it with wibu
[14:00] <June79> Thanks for the suggestions.
[14:00] <kamran> TJ-: oh sorry, ok i wait:)
[14:00] <Akshay> What would you recomend cfhowlett?
[14:00] <Akshay> how to fix the network problem issue?
[14:01] <cfhowlett_> Akshay, by the way, *when* your windows breaks wubi, it's virtually certain that you'll  unable to repair it.  Suggest your immediately torrent 14.04.1 lubuntu or xubuntu.  (Assuming you have an older machine).  14.04 is Long Term Support.  Install.  go forth and conquer.
[14:03] <Akshay> thanks cfhowlett, btw I've another issue
[14:03] <cfhowlett_> Akshay, oh, and never ever wubi again.  IMHO.
[14:04] <pbx> TJ-, yeah, it's not an ignore entry.  ignore.conf is 0 bytes
[14:05] <paloukas> hello all! does anyone else have problems with missing files after shutting down and reopening ubuntu 14.04
[14:05] <mjayk> paloukas: no what files?
[14:06] <Akshay> While I'm trying to install chromium browser in ubuntu, or any other app, its'giving me an error of Failed network problem
[14:06] <Akshay> "W:Failed to fetch http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/quantal/universe/binary-amd64/Packages  404  Not Found [IP: 91.189.92.200 80] , E:Some index files failed to download. They have been ignored, or old ones used instead."
[14:06] <folbofasolin> I have problem after upgrading to 14.04
[14:06] <folbofasolin> what the hell
[14:06] <cfhowlett_> Akshay, quantal is end of life.  no more support.  dead repos.
[14:06] <cfhowlett_> !details | folbofasolin,
[14:07] <kamran> Akshay: this fixed this for me once, change server to auto detect ! in software center
[14:07] <zipc1> what causes this error? http://paste.ubuntu.com/8026970/
[14:08] <paloukas> mjayk: it's the strangest thing...6 times now, after rebooting or shutting down I lose all files (including things like software updates...anything and everything!) created after a certain point
[14:08] <folbofasolin> ubottu: after upgrade my unity and KDE won't run after clicking "login" button
[14:08] <folbofasolin> xD
[14:08] <folbofasolin> cfhowlett_: how you darexD
[14:08] <paloukas> mjayk: even my windows vms are fudged up
[14:08] <mjayk> paloukas: that does sould weird i would point towards a strange journeling problem / failing hdd but thats beyond me sorry
[14:09] <Akshay> @kamran, it's been already set to Auto detect
[14:10] <TJ-> kamran: I shall... OK, tested it here so here goes. Run this, and pastebin the results for me: " awk '/Package: fglrx/{P=$2} /^MD5sum/ && P {print P,$2; P=""} ' /var/lib/apt/lists/archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_trusty_restricted_binary-amd64_Packages | while read package sum; do PKG="/var/cache/apt/archives/${package}_*.deb"; if [ -f $PKG ]; then echo "$sum  is the MD5 sum for:  $package"; md5sum $PKG; fi; done "
[14:10] <paloukas> mjayk: thanks! the hardware is pretty new...
[14:10] <kamran> TJ-: ok
[14:10] <Akshay> kamran: it's been already set to Auto detect
[14:11] <kamran> TJ-: it gives me an empty ">" that i can type there
[14:11] <TJ-> kamran: You must have included an extra quote mark (did you include the double-quotes I surround the command with) ?
[14:12] <tuono279> ciao
[14:12] <kamran> TJ-: let me check
[14:12] <TJ-> kamran: try typing another " and pressing Enter
[14:12] <tuono279> list
[14:12] <ssarah> hei guys
[14:12] <kamran> TJ-: thats what i typed : awk '/Package: fglrx/{P=$2} /^MD5sum/ && P {print P,$2; P=""} ' /var/lib/apt/lists/archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_trusty_restricted_binary-amd64_Packages | while read package sum; do PKG="/var/cache/apt/archives/${package}_*.deb"; if [ -f $PKG ]; then echo "$sum  is the MD5 sum for:  $package
[14:12] <kamran> i treid still it gets me tehre
[14:12] <ssarah> what does "$sudo passwd" do?
[14:13] <TJ-> kamran: Some of the command is missing ... it ends with "done"
[14:13] <geirha> PKG="/var/cache/apt/archives/${package}_*.deb"; if [ -f $PKG ]; ... <- that is broken
[14:13] <TJ-> kamran: let me pastebin it so it is easier to copy and paste
[14:13] <kamran> TJ-:  thanks, sorry :(
[14:13] <paloukas> hello all! does anybody else have problems with losing all files created after a certain point in time (including packages) after a shutdown/reboot on 14.04
[14:14] <TJ-> kamran: http://paste.ubuntu.com/8027115/
[14:14] <TJ-> kamran: I left in the "gb.archive" again! edit that to be just "archive" !!
[14:14] <geirha> TJ-: you want an array for that. pkg=( "/var/cache/apt/archives/${package}_"*.deb ); if [[ -f ${pkg[0]} ]]; then ...
[14:15] <kamran> TJ-: tu_dists_trusty_restricted_binary-amd64_Packages: command not found
[14:15] <TJ-> kamran: something is wrong with your copy-paste operation
[14:15] <kamran> TJ-: the one i saw here was shorted btw !!!
[14:15] <kamran> TJ-: let me do soemthing
[14:15] <Guest42867> RUNNING 12.04 with no problems (nvidia updates have been problematic)
[14:15] <Guest42867> does 14.04 seem good to go for an update, or can it wait for a little bug removal?
[14:16] <system0x01> Bluetooth Driver(RT3290/MT7630) on HP ProBook G1 455 not work on new kernel
[14:16] <kamran> TJ-: my mouse has connecting problem and maybe it disconnected while selecting it, let me download it !
[14:16] <f00dWorksta> Been using 14.04 for a while now, only a few minor glitches here and there
[14:16] <TJ-> geirha: I'm trying not to rely on bashisms, just in case
[14:16] <TJ-> kamran: here's the corrected pastebin for you http://paste.ubuntu.com/8027124/
[14:16] <kamran> TJ-: after downloading it and CTRL-A and V i get this :            awk: cannot open /var/lib/apt/lists/gb.archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_trusty_restricted_binary-amd64_Packages (No such file or directory)
[14:16] <cslcm> I wish Unity was less Mac OS'y
[14:17] <geirha> TJ-: Then you'll at least want something that won't fail so easily
[14:17] <TJ-> kamran: Yeah, as I said, I left in the gb.archive on that one because that's what mine is set to :)
[14:17] <kamran> TJ-: now i got result
[14:17] <TJ-> geirha: It fails because the paste is incomplete!
[14:17] <Guest42867> thanks
[14:17] <kamran> TJ-: 739216c4b2546f3f00d0049bb55e6b43  is the MD5 sum for:  fglrx-amdcccle-updates 739216c4b2546f3f00d0049bb55e6b43  /var/cache/apt/archives/fglrx-amdcccle-updates_2%3a13.350.1-0ubuntu2_amd64.deb
[14:17] <TJ-> kamran: Can you pastebin it please
[14:18] <kamran> Tj-: ok
[14:18] <kamran> TJ-: http://paste.ubuntu.com/8027153/ , sorry :)
[14:18] <geirha> TJ-: it will fail if sie happens to have more than one deb file for a given package
[14:18] <f00dWorksta> cslcm: how is unity mac os'y? :o
[14:18] <TJ-> kamran: OK, that package is good but you don't have the "fglrx" package downloaded yet, so do "sudo apt-get --reinstall install fglrx"
[14:18] <kamran> TJ-: thats gonna take long with my net, ok let me do it
[14:19] <system0x01> how to run ralink (mediatek present) combo device bleuetooth/wifi
[14:19] <TJ-> kamran: That's the only solution, that system is *missing* the "fglrx" package, as "apt-cache policy" confirmed earlier
[14:19] <kamran> TJ-: oh its only 6mb,  i otught its gonna download the whole 125 mb again
[14:19] <system0x01> on new kernel
[14:19] <cslcm> f00dWorksta: My main gripe is the application menus being detached from the application and being at the top of the screen. It's bad UX
[14:19] <kamran> TJ-: ok :) will tell you when its done
[14:19] <f00dWorksta> cslcm: you can put menus back to the window
[14:19] <f00dWorksta> cslcm: at least in 14.04 you can
[14:19] <Akshay> kamran: there man?
[14:20] <dino82> Does ubuntu not use a true bash shell by default?  Bash scripts that work fine on CentOS seem to be completely broken in Ubuntu 14.04
[14:20] <kamran> Akshay : what?
[14:20] <TJ-> kamran: Once it is installed, assuming apt-get doesn't report errors, you'll be best to reboot the PC to ensure the DRI drivers get loaded correctly. Then come back here after testing it to tell me if that fixed it or not
[14:20] <kamran> Akshay : oh, yes im here if you  ask if im afk :)
[14:20] <geirha> dino82: Yes. The scripts that fail are probably sh scripts using bashisms.
[14:20] <Akshay> kamran: I've already set it to auto detect
[14:20] <kamran> TJ-: ok :) i will reboot after that, and will come with same name
[14:20] <Akshay> kamran: still facing the issues
[14:20] <geirha> dino82: you can fix that by changing their shebang to #!/usr/bin/env bash
[14:20] <kamran> Akshay : sadly i have no other ideas
[14:20] <f00dWorksta> cslcm: Settings > Apperance > Behavior > Show the menus for a window > In the window's title bar
[14:21] <kamran> Akshay : atleast for now, my brain is messy, i have my own problem xD
[14:21] <dino82> I'll try that, thanks
[14:21] <sideup66> hello room
[14:21] <TJ-> dino82: Ubuntu uses "dash", an 'sh' extension, by default for system scripts. User's shells are usually Bash though
[14:21] <sideup66> anyone here have any experience with installing emit? Im trying to create an emit server on ubuntu 14.04 desktop
[14:21] <Akshay> kamran: no problem man
[14:21] <geirha> dino82: See http://mywiki.wooledge.org/BashGuide/Practices#Choose_Your_Shell for more on that.
[14:21] <Akshay> kamran: thanks for help
[14:21] <dino82> Thanks
[14:22] <kamran> Akshay : :) sorry that i cant help,
[14:22] <sideup66> and for whatever reason, it doesnt seem to follow through, it installs and starts, but when I  try torun it, the output is that it upnp recieves an unknown message
[14:22] <system0x01> I have some issue with rt3290 - on new kernel the bluetooth not work.
[14:24] <Akshay> kamran: no rpoblem man
[14:24] <kamran> i was about to giev another idea :( he left !!!
[14:24] <sideup66> ?
[14:24] <dino82> Hmm changing the shebang at the top of my script didn't work, getting the same error
[14:26] <cslcm> f00dWorksta: thanks, that's helpful :) Is there a way to get rid of the OSX-like sidebar too?
[14:26] <cslcm> and just use desktop icons
[14:26] <Inoki> Guys I have a question; I'm about to re-install a laptop with a given name for the home folder. Can I change this home folder's name during the live session and when I specify the new home folder name during installation will it be normally mounted?
[14:27] <ObrienDave> cslcm, install xubuntu-desktop, select at logon
[14:27] <geirha> dino82: what's the error?
[14:28] <trijntje> Inoki: what do you mean exactly, directories aren't "mounted" during installation
[14:28] <f00dWorksta> cslcm: you can either use another desktop environment like ObrienDave suggested: xubuntu (XFCE), gnome-shell.
[14:28] <geirha> dino82: also note that ''sh scriptfile'' is wrong; that overrides the shebang and runs it with sh
[14:29] <dino82> Yes, I've been using ./script.sh
[14:29] <f00dWorksta> cslcm: or you can hide the bar and reveal it when needed: Settings > Appearance > Behaviour > Auto-hide the Launcher
[14:29] <EL3PHANTEN> Hello
[14:29] <f00dWorksta> cslcm: if you really don't want to even reveal it, set the reveal sensitivity to really LOW
[14:30] <Inoki> trijntje: I mean you have a home folder that has a specific name and holds your files. In order to mount this specific folder after a fresh install you need to specify your login name (which is the name of your folder).
[14:30] <f00dWorksta> cslcm: as in set it to the lowest, it won't show ever again
[14:30] <geirha> dino82: ok, then the error might be that it uses a non-standard command that is either not available, or different in ubuntu
[14:30] <EL3PHANTEN> I have tried to install winsows and ubuntu on my laptop, It just won work
[14:30] <f00dWorksta> cslcm: well it shows when you press the super key to show the launcher
[14:30] <EL3PHANTEN> I have had ubuntu on, And I have had windows on.
[14:30] <moth3r> Is there a fast (yet possibly secure) alternative to sshfs?
[14:31] <moth3r> I can't  handle sshfs anyomre, wayyy too slow.
[14:31] <trijntje> Inoki: again, mounting folders doesn't make any sense. Do you have a separate home partition?
[14:31] <f00dWorksta> moth3r: what are your requirements
[14:31] <f00dWorksta> EL3PHANTEN: what is the problem?
[14:31] <eeee_> EL3PHANTEN: whay do you mean it doesn't wrk?
[14:32] <moth3r> f00dWorksta: only requirement is a tolerable connection.
[14:32] <eeee_> *what
[14:32] <MonkeyDust> Inoki  you mount a device *to* a folder
[14:32] <f00dWorksta> moth3r: what do you use it for?
[14:32] <cfhowlett_> !details | EL3PHANTEN,
[14:32] <kamran> TJ-: 40%, what should i test after rebooting, just check cpu usage?
[14:32] <TJ-> trijntje: Actually, home directories *are* mounted if they're encrypted: "/home/tj/.Private on /home/tj type ecryptfs"
[14:32] <EL3PHANTEN> When I have a clean windows installation on. I run Ubuntu 14.04.1 windows installer. But when I reboot and come in to ubuntu, it says no root defined
[14:32] <TJ-> kamran: Yes, do everything you know that was causing problems, check the CPU usage etc,
[14:32] <moth3r> f00dWorksta: Everything. I use it like I use the hard disk in my laptop. I have 3 external hard drives I concatinated and mounted on a remote machine.
[14:33] <ldiamond> Anyone upgraded from 12.04 to 14.04.01? How was it? Should I just do a clean install?
[14:33] <EL3PHANTEN> * no root file system is defined
[14:33] <kamran> TJ-: i also check if tf2 is fixed !
[14:33] <cfhowlett_> ldiamond, painless > clean install
[14:33] <f00dWorksta> moth3r: remote drives should really only be used for storage... have you tried plain ol' NFS?
[14:33] <TJ-> kamran: good luck :)
[14:34] <kamran> TJ-: will tell you :) let me make some coffe xD thanks a lot for till here
[14:34] <geirha> Oh, wubi is still supported? I thought I heard it got dropped
[14:34] <eeee_> EL3PHANTEN: is that during the installation?
[14:34] <ldiamond> cfhowlett_, I'll give it a shot, if I regret my decision it won't be too late to clean it up.
[14:34] <cfhowlett_> geirha, WUBI IS UNSUPPORTED!
[14:34] <moth3r> f00dWorksta: no. is there some level of security? and am I able to mount it on this computer?
[14:34] <f00dWorksta> moth3r: is your remote machine within your local network?
[14:34] <dino82> Ok, got the script to work, thanks
[14:35] <moth3r> f00dWorksta: yes, but I access it outside of my network.
[14:35] <geirha> cfhowlett_: good, then I heard right :)
[14:35] <cfhowlett_> EL3PHANTEN, if you used the windows installer - you messed up.  it doesn't like 14.04  and I'm pretty sure we TOLD you not to use it.
[14:36] <EL3PHANTEN> eeee_: Yes I have installed windows first, on my only 1TB partition
[14:36] <f00dWorksta> moth3r: and you only use it as storage? or do you work off of it?
[14:36] <geirha> dino82: also, in the future, avoid putting extensions on scripts
[14:36] <Inoki> trijntje: During installation you get a screen where you insert your credentials, password and login name (which will be your home folder name). If, after a fresh installation (and mounting /home separately) you, on this specific login screen put a different login name than the previously used your home folder will not contain any files, because you haven't used your previous login so when you mount /home separately you will have a new folder wit
[14:36] <moth3r> f00dWorksta: I work off of it
[14:36] <ldiamond> cfhowlett_, geirha : https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WubiGuide maybe this page needs to be updated though
[14:37] <eeee_> EL3PHANTEN: and you're using the "something else" option during the installation?
[14:37] <EL3PHANTEN> cfhowlett_, okey. Then I will reinstall windows on the partition, so that is the only thing I have. Okey?
[14:37] <trijntje> Inoki: your message got truncated because it was too long. Please split it up and poste it again
[14:37] <cfhowlett_> EL3PHANTEN, good move
[14:37] <cfhowlett_> ldiamond, yes, it does need to be updated
[14:37] <geirha> ldiamond: ouch!
[14:37] <f00dWorksta> moth3r: one more question... defined 'slow'
[14:37] <ldiamond> EL3PHANTEN, not sure exactly what your situation is, but be sure to inspect your current partitions to find out if you actually wiped it or if it's just the bootloader.
[14:37] <dino82> I assume it's an effort to keep others from being confused as to what type of script it is?
[14:37] <moth3r> f00dWorksta: 123 kb/s
[14:38] <EL3PHANTEN> eeee_: I have tried so many times. I dont know. But I will go trough the process right now
[14:38] <geirha> dino82: that and avoiding headaches if you end up rewriting it in another language
[14:38] <f00dWorksta> moth3r: I don't think that's sshfs's problem then...
[14:38] <eeee_> EL3PHANTEN: i think you aren't specifying the root filesystem during the installation,
[14:38] <Inoki> trijntje: During installation you get a screen where you insert your credentials, password and login name (which will be your home folder name).
[14:38] <TJ-> Inoki: Before running the install, you could rename the existing home directory, then rename it back to the required name once you've installed
[14:38] <moth3r> f00dWorksta: It is a number of problems...but alleviating some of the layers of encryption would speed this up a bit
[14:38] <Inoki> trijntje: If, after a fresh installation (and mounting /home separately) you, on this specific login screen put a different login name than the previously used your home folder will not contain any files,
[14:39] <Inoki> trijntje: because you haven't used your previous login so when you mount /home separately you will have a new folder with no files and the previous /home folder won't be mounted again.
[14:39] <f00dWorksta> moth3r: encrytion is cheap nowadays
[14:39] <ldiamond> moth3r, not if the bottleneck is the bandwidth.
[14:39] <Inoki> trijntje: This happened to me before. So, if I go to live session, change the current home folder name to something else, put that something else as my new login, will it normally mount /home with all files?
[14:39] <moth3r> ldiamond: the bottleneck is the ethernet port, tiny tiny computer.
[14:39] <geirha> dino82: and the end user really doesn't care what language a command is written in as long as it does what it's supposed to do
[14:39] <ldiamond> moth3r, make sure you use the latest version of ssh on both the client and server.
[14:39] <f00dWorksta> moth3r: usually it's IO that's the bottleneck
[14:39] <moth3r> f00dWorksta: correct.
[14:39] <ldiamond> moth3r, the encrypted payload isn't much larger than the real thing.
[14:39] <EL3PHANTEN> cfhowlett_, ldiamond, okey. I have the laptop right besides me here. I am on my desktop now, so I will be here trought the process. And I will ask windows to delete all partitions, and format, and make a new windows partition.
[14:40] <moth3r> f00dWorksta: ldiamond: so you guys think I should change the machine that hosts the remote drives then?
[14:40] <eeee_> EL3PHANTEN: you have to choose "Something else" at the bottom of the screen, and create a partition for ubuntu,
[14:40] <eeee_> EL3PHANTEN: no need to delete windows
[14:40] <ldiamond> moth3r, what is that machine?
[14:40] <EL3PHANTEN> eeee_: okey?
[14:40] <eeee_> you can probably just shrink the partition and use the free space for ubuntu
[14:40] <Inoki> TJ-: so that can work the other way around then. Go to live > rename home > head to install, choose new login > /home mounted.
[14:40] <trijntje> Inoki: yes, that should work. Just be sure to have a backup of all important files before you start, and make sure you do not format /home during the installation
[14:40] <ldiamond> moth3r, my Raspberry pi will likely serve much faster than that over sshfs.
[14:40] <moth3r> ldiamond: .....raspberry pi....I KNOW I KNOW...terrible idea. It was originally supposed to be strictly for storage
[14:40] <dino82> geirha: Yeah this was a simple rsync deployment script with error checking, so that my wife can tell me if something went wrong with a specific error code :)
[14:41] <moth3r> ldiamond: it doesn't though
[14:41] <ldiamond> moth3r, there shouldn't be an issue.
[14:41] <Inoki> trijntje: thanks, perfect!
[14:41] <TJ-> Inoki: No ... if you're doing "Tru Ubuntu" and then running the installer from the desktop icon, then *before* you start the installer rename the user's home directory to something temporary such as "/home/user.backup", install as 'user' (which will create a new "/home/user/"), then once the installer is finished do "rm -rf /home/user/" and then "mv /home/user.backup /home/user"
[14:41] <f00dWorksta> moth3r: can you benchmark your remote machine first?
[14:41] <ldiamond> moth3r, do you use the ethernet port?
[14:41] <moth3r> ldiamond: yes
[14:41] <moth3r> f00dWorksta: I don't know how to dot hat
[14:41] <Inoki> TJ-: okies, thanks!
[14:41] <EL3PHANTEN> eeee_ okey. I will try this first. I will uninstall the wubi installation. And go to windows and shrink the partition. right?
[14:42] <GothPaw> I'm using 12.04 "update Manager" was in the middle of updating but has been sitting now for over 30 hours without doing anything, It's sitting at the following: run-parts: executing /etc/kernel/postinst.d/zz-update-grub 3.13.0-32-generic /boot/vmlinuz-3.13.0-32-generic
[14:42] <eeee_> EL3PHANTEN: right
[14:42] <EL3PHANTEN> 2 sec
[14:42] <cfhowlett_> GothPaw, 30 HOURS?
[14:42] <TJ-> GothPaw: ouch! That should only take 20 seconds
[14:42] <f00dWorksta> moth3r: ssh into remote machine, then do "sudo hdparm -Tt /dev/sda"
[14:42] <moth3r> f00dWorksta: please hold
[14:42] <TJ-> GothPaw: Is it possible the /boot/ partition has run out od space?
[14:42] <eeee_> lol :'(
[14:43] <j0rd> soooooo. im sure this has been asked way too many times but where in the name of $deity is the pulseaudio packages for trusty?
[14:43] <TJ-> j0rd: "apt-cache search pulseaudio"
[14:43] <EL3PHANTEN> eeee_: okey now in windows administration, I shrink c: by 500GB. Okey?
[14:43] <MonkeyDust> j0rd  i like your $DEITY :)
[14:43] <eeee_> EL3PHANTEN: as you wish
[14:44] <f00dWorksta> There is only 1 God
[14:44] <f00dWorksta> LOVE AND PEACE
[14:44] <j0rd> MonkeyDust: im getting the "E: Package 'pulseaudio' has no installation candidate" error
[14:44] <moth3r> f00dWorksta: "hdparm: command not found"
[14:44] <trijntje> moth3r: I get around 2 Mbps on my raspberry pi using nfs, it might be worth a shot
[14:44] <f00dWorksta> screw all the human made religions
[14:44] <f00dWorksta> anyway..
[14:44] <moth3r> trijntje: can you mount using that?
[14:44] <j0rd> s/MonkeyDust/TJ/
[14:44] <MonkeyDust> j0rd  and your release supported? what's the outcome of    cat /etc/issue
[14:44] <ldiamond> moth3r, consider trying different ciphers.
[14:44] <sideup66> hello again
[14:44] <sideup66> dunno if anyone responded
[14:44] <EL3PHANTEN> eeee_, okey now I got 488GB unallocated. What next?
[14:44] <sideup66> at work and was afk
[14:44] <moth3r> ldiamond: how would I do that?
[14:45] <TJ-> j0rd: have you recently changed the repository settings for the package manager?
[14:45] <trijntje> moth3r: yeah, but I'm not sure if nfs is encrypted
[14:45] <eeee_> EL3PHANTEN: is this a windows 8 efi system?
[14:45] <ldiamond> the -c param
[14:45] <f00dWorksta> moth3r: install the hdparm package?
[14:45] <moth3r> ldiamond: which cypher should I use?
[14:45] <TJ-> j0rd: which Ubuntu release is it ("cat /etc/issue") ?
[14:45] <j0rd> TJ-: no
[14:45] <j0rd> TJ-: MonkeyDust: Ubuntu 14.04.1 LTS \n \l
[14:45] <TJ-> j0rd: Try "sudo apt-get update" then "apt-cache policy pulseaudio"
[14:46] <sideup66> wat?
[14:46] <EL3PHANTEN> eeee_: it has some (UEFI, legacy support) settings in BIOS, and one setting, optimized for win8.
[14:46] <ldiamond> moth3r, try multiple ones. But RC4 and Blowfish should perform well enough
[14:46] <moth3r> ldiamond: I just type, "-c RC4"? as a param
[14:46] <ldiamond> be sure to try the "supposed" default aes, which may not be what's defaulted to with your installation (for some reason)
[14:46] <j0rd> its essentially stock. i bearly use it. i ran apt-get update; apt-get upgrade this morning and it baked when i booted it just now. will run apt-get update and apt-cache policy pulseaudio now
[14:46] <eeee_> EL3PHANTEN: ok, you need to turn fast boot off for win8
[14:47] <ldiamond> moth3r, -c arcfour
[14:47] <trijntje> moth3r: probably better to ask in #raspberrypi anyway, maybe the chip has build in support for some ciphers
[14:47] <EL3PHANTEN> eeee_: its win7 I am running
[14:47] <ldiamond> moth3r, however, know that RC4 isn't considered secure.
[14:47] <j0rd> TJ-: http://sprunge.us/BERg
[14:47] <eeee_> EL3PHANTEN: ok, then i guess boot the live USB
[14:47] <ldiamond> if you're transferring state secrets, I'd advise against it.
[14:48] <EL3PHANTEN> eeee_: okey 2 secs
[14:48] <moth3r> ldiamond: I'm less concerned about secrets and more concerned with just speed and keeping cleartext from happening
[14:48] <kamran> 91%
[14:49] <ldiamond> moth3r, do some testing with different ciphers, and as it was suggested, try #raspberrypi
[14:49] <moth3r> ldiamond: will do
[14:49] <moth3r> thanks
[14:49] <f00dWorksta> moth3r: ha I just saw that it's a rasberrypi, sorry no experience at that matter, ldiamond can take over completely :P
[14:50] <moth3r> f00dWorksta: hah
[14:50] <mjayk> Haya all im behind a proxy and I cant do sudo apt-get update, I can if I sudo su export http_proxy= then apt-get update
[14:50] <mjayk> and ideas
[14:50] <j0rd> TJ-: any thoughts?
[14:50] <MonkeyDust> mjayk  why are you behind a proxy?
[14:50] <mjayk> MonkeyDust: because thats the way the network is configured
[14:51] <moth3r> trijntje: ldiamond: I'm trying with a different cypher and no compression.... wish me luck
[14:51] <MonkeyDust> mjayk  what network? can you not contact the network manager?
[14:51] <EL3PHANTEN> eeee_, now I cannot access BIOS. Had same problem before today. 2 min
[14:51] <geirha> mjayk: sudo http_proxy= apt-get update
[14:52] <mjayk> geirha: lemme try
[14:52] <TJ-> j0rd: Yeah... why have you got too sets of Ubuntu repos set, and with a pining on pulseaudio?
[14:52] <kamran> TJ-: restarting....
[14:52] <TJ-> kamran: OK .. I'm off out to run the huskies... let me know in about 45 minutes ;)
[14:53] <mjayk> geirha: yes that works thanks is there anyway to set this as a global var because wget and curl dont seam to use it by default?
[14:54] <j0rd> TJ-: im honestly not sure. as i said, this box doesnt see much use. if the package is pinned its not on me. as for mirrors.kernel iirc i added it because the au.archive.ubuntu server can fall behind from time to time
[14:54] <geirha> mjayk: you mean wget and curl don't use the proxy?
[14:55] <mjayk> geirha: correct
[14:55] <geirha> but you want them to?
[14:55] <mjayk> yes
[14:56] <geirha> well, globally for all users, I'd probably put it in /etc/environment
[14:57] <EL3PHANTEN> eeee_: can you guide me on what BIOS settings to choose? . I can send a paste link
[14:57] <j0rd> ok, w/ TJ gone is there anyone else who cld take a stab helping me solve the pinned and missing pulseaudio?
[14:57] <eeee_> EL3PHANTEN: yeah sure
[14:57] <EL3PHANTEN> Okey wait
[14:58] <EL3PHANTEN> eeee_: is there some bios info, I should avoid to post, for security?
[14:59] <eeee_> EL3PHANTEN: i don't think so, no
[14:59] <ldiamond> EL3PHANTEN, only the password used to get in the bios.
[15:00] <ldiamond> If one is set.
[15:00] <EL3PHANTEN> Okey thank tou
[15:00] <bl4ckdu5t> I installed phpmyadmin on a Ubuntu 14.0 Trusty
[15:00] <bl4ckdu5t> Happens web files are stored in /var/www/html rather than /var/www
[15:01] <bl4ckdu5t> I visited http://localhost/phpmyadmin and I can't find the file
[15:01] <ldiamond> try http://localhost/phpmyadmin/html
[15:01] <MonkeyDust> bl4ckdu5t  is that a server? there's also #ubuntu-server
[15:02] <ldiamond> otherwise check the apache config.
[15:02] <Pici> bl4ckdu5t: is the configuration actually enabled? Is there a symlink to /etc/phpmyadmin/apache.conf in /etc/apache2/conf-enabled/ or /etc/apache2/conf.d/  ?
[15:02] <EL3PHANTEN> !pastebin
[15:02] <bl4ckdu5t> ldiamond: didn't work
[15:03] <bl4ckdu5t> I check the config in /usr/share/phpmyadmin/config/config.php
[15:04] <bl4ckdu5t> and I couldn't see anything strange
[15:04] <bl4ckdu5t> Pici: I'm not sure about the symlink. I'll check
[15:05] <EL3PHANTEN> eeee_: http://imgur.com/cumo8Rv,yghIGcs,m1NU6st,EB0UsVC there are 4 images
[15:06] <ldiamond> bl4ckdu5t, it's the apache config you need.
[15:07] <ldiamond> phpmyadmin runs on an apache server in the default install.
[15:07] <EL3PHANTEN> eeee_: there where it says legacy support, I can choose UEFI
[15:07] <ldiamond> (at least it did a few years back)
[15:08] <bl4ckdu5t> Pici: There's no /etc/apache2/confi.d
[15:08] <bl4ckdu5t> *conf.d/
[15:08] <powwowwow> hello everyone, I'd like to import a public gpg key into seahorse, but nothing happens when I select 'import'. can you help please?
[15:08] <bl4ckdu5t> just /etc/apache2/apache.conf
[15:08] <EL3PHANTEN> eeee_ and boot priority, I can choose "UEFI First" if on legacy support
[15:08] <bl4ckdu5t> ldiamond: what do you think I should check out in the config
[15:08] <JaySlaven> hello, i want to change user from root as i cant run steam on root. im running on a chromebook using croutob
[15:08] <JaySlaven> crouton
[15:09] <bl4ckdu5t> and is it this config /usr/share/phpmyadmin/config/config.php ?
[15:09] <ldiamond> bl4ckdu5t, I hate apache with a passion, try #mysql #phpmyadmin or #apache
[15:09] <ldiamond> bl4ckdu5t, that's the phpmyadmin config.
[15:09] <kamran> TJ-: are you here?
[15:10] <ldiamond> phpmyadmin isn't a server, only a set of php files.
[15:10] <Pici> bl4ckdu5t: no. /etc/phpmyadmin/apache.conf needs to be symlinked from within /etc/apache2/conf.d/ or from /etc/apache2/conf-enabled/
[15:10] <Pici> bl4ckdu5t: if you don't have /etc/apache2/conf.d/, then you should have the other
[15:11] <EL3PHANTEN> still here eeee_?
[15:13] <iainv2> How do I reset back to default desktop in 14.04 please?
[15:14] <xangua> iainv2: please elaborate
[15:14] <eeee_> EL3PHANTEN: sorry, im back,
[15:14] <EL3PHANTEN> okey
[15:15] <MonkeyDust> iainv2  i guess you can simply do   unity --reset   or so
[15:15] <EL3PHANTEN> eeee_: I wrote some otion I have further up in the chat
[15:15] <iainv2> I changed from default, got a menu but want original Ubuntu sidebar back
[15:15] <eeee_> yeah reading it now
[15:16] <MonkeyDust> iainv2  then logout, switch, login
[15:16] <xangua> iainv2: changed to what¿ what menu¿ please elaborate
[15:17] <iainv2> I've got a drop down menu instead of the original icons. Bit of a newbie I'm afraid
[15:18] <eeee_> EL3PHANTEN: when you start the PC if you press ESC do you get a boot options?
[15:18] <MonkeyDust> iainv2  sounds like you're in the classic fallback desktop
[15:18] <EL3PHANTEN> I thin it is f12
[15:18] <EL3PHANTEN> think*
[15:19] <eeee_> EL3PHANTEN: try that, and select the USB
[15:20] <stevecoh1> quit
[15:20] <EL3PHANTEN> eeee_: sry I guess that didnt work with the legacy option first. Then I did hold shift and pressed restart to access the BIOS again
[15:20] <bencc> why does "hostname –fqdn" give me "hostname: the specified hostname is invalid"
[15:20] <EL3PHANTEN> Shall I choose UEFI first
[15:20] <eeee_> EL3PHANTEN: ok, you need to get the USB HDD to the top of the list
[15:20] <bencc> /etc/hostname is "example.dev"
[15:20] <eeee_> EL3PHANTEN: no, leave it legacy
[15:20] <EL3PHANTEN> Okey
[15:21] <eeee_> EL3PHANTEN: if windows is installed in legacy, ubuntu should be installed in legacy as well
[15:21] <EL3PHANTEN> eeee_: ALL settings okey from the screenshots?
[15:21] <MonkeyDust> bencc  does the same here, i guess the options cannot be combined
[15:21] <iainv2> Thanks, I'll try switching
[15:21] <eeee_> EL3PHANTEN: yeah
[15:21] <EL3PHANTEN> Okey
[15:22] <bencc> MonkeyDust: what?
[15:22] <bencc> MonkeyDust: on my server it works
[15:23] <MonkeyDust> bencc  yes, then maybe it's a combination that works on server, but not on desktop
[15:23] <EL3PHANTEN> Okey eeee_: shall I Install Ubuntu or Try Ubuntu
[15:24] <bencc> MonkeyDust: very helpful :)
[15:24] <eeee_> EL3PHANTEN: if you're ready to install, then install ubuntu, or maybe try ubuntu to see how it runs
[15:24] <eeee_> with your hardware and if you like it
[15:25] <EL3PHANTEN> It runs perfectly. I have run Ubuntu on this for months
[15:25] <EL3PHANTEN> just need win7 in addition
[15:25] <eeee_> EL3PHANTEN: ok, then choose install ubuntu
[15:25] <eeee_> ill brb
[15:27] <EL3PHANTEN> eeee_: In the options I shall choose "Something else: edit partitions and stuff" ?
[15:27] <jayslaven> is anyone here who knows how to do crouton on a chromebook
[15:27] <jayslaven> i desperatly need help
[15:29] <MonkeyDust> bencc  from the hostanme manpage : "Therefore avoid using hostname --fqdn, hostname --domain and dnsdomain‐ name."
[15:30] <eeee_> EL3PHANTEN: yeah, choose Something else
[15:30] <EL3PHANTEN> eeee_: okey now in installation type window, I see: /dev/sdb, and then one emptyspace 1000204 MB.
[15:32] <eeee_> O.o
[15:32] <Pici> jayslaven: try asking in #crouton, which is their official channel. We have no idea here in #ubuntu
[15:32] <eeee_> EL3PHANTEN: you shrunk the windows partition by 500Gb right?
[15:32] <sathish> hi
[15:32] <EL3PHANTEN> eeee_ yes
[15:32] <sathish> need small info
[15:33] <eeee_> EL3PHANTEN: something isn't right, can you pastebin it?
[15:33] <sathish> yes
[15:33] <sathish> we have installed one ubuntu cloud server
[15:33] <sathish> with MAAS
[15:33] <EL3PHANTEN> eeee_: sry for the danish language. I upload anyways... http://imgur.com/eWlfBvv
[15:34] <sathish> but not able to get the clusterg on the MAAS console
[15:34] <qstrahl> I accidentally enabled some kind of reader that dictates every key I press it's horrible please tell me how to make it stop
[15:35] <EL3PHANTEN> eeee_: in windows the 488GB is still unallocated.
[15:36] <reisio> qstrahl: pgrep -l festival
[15:36] <qstrahl> reisio, Nothing
[15:36] <eeee_> EL3PHANTEN: you booted into windows just now?
[15:36] <EL3PHANTEN> No
[15:36] <reisio> qstrahl: check dash for 'accessibility'
[15:36] <EL3PHANTEN> just info
[15:36] <eeee_> EL3PHANTEN: can you try that?
[15:36] <EL3PHANTEN> Okey
[15:36] <eeee_> or, if you press cancel
[15:36] <qstrahl> reisio, "Orca Screen Reader" maybe?
[15:36] <eeee_> and it takes you to the unity desktop
[15:37] <EL3PHANTEN> Yea I guess I will go in try mode
[15:37] <Blue11> qstrahl: you may have accidentally trigged the accessibility option
[15:37] <EL3PHANTEN> eeee_ true
[15:37] <eeee_> EL3PHANTEN: check gparted
[15:37] <qstrahl> I believe I did. Where can I turn off the hotkey for this?
[15:37] <qstrahl> (It was orca, pkill to the rescue)
[15:37] <sathish> hi
[15:37] <sathish> hi
[15:37] <sathish> hi
[15:37] <sathish> hi
[15:37] <sathish> hi
[15:37] <Blue11> yeah orca is a screen reader
[15:38] <reisio> qstrahl: mebbe
[15:38] <reisio> log out and back in, if it doesn't come back, you're all set
[15:38] <Enissay> Hi, I want to get the git's first commit date from http://code.google.com/p/tesseract-ocr/source/checkout... but "$ git log https://code.google.com/p/tesseract-ocr/" says there's no repository :(
[15:38] <Blue11> qstrahl: if you go into the settings manager under system accessibility, there should be an option there.
[15:38] <absk007> how to install emmet in Geany editor?
[15:39] <Blue11> oh yay -- I have a restart
[15:39] <EL3PHANTEN> eeee_ http://imgur.com/NSs0g5m
[15:39] <reisio> absk007: don't cross post
[15:40] <marcuy> k
[15:40] <nonuby> OT: possibly the most famous wifi points, the blue/black linksys boxes wr54g/l etc.., from pics the antennas have a thick base, is the antenna connector the standard one used for 3rd party antennas etc..
[15:40] <nonuby> one remove the standard linksys antennas, i.e. its just a plastic gimmickl
[15:40] <phunyguy> nonuby: #ubuntu-offtopic or ##hardware
[15:41] <nonuby> thanks
[15:41] <daftykins> or #networking
[15:41] <eeee_> EL3PHANTEN: open a terminal, type parted -l
[15:41] <phunyguy> that too
[15:41] <EL3PHANTEN> affirmative
[15:41] <eeee_> EL3PHANTEN:  apt-get install pastebinit
[15:42] <eeee_> EL3PHANTEN: parted -l | pastebinit
[15:42] <EL3PHANTEN> okey
[15:42] <qstrahl> reisio, It's cool, pkill saved the day.
[15:42] <EL3PHANTEN> eeee_ actually it asks the same question about if its a gpt table
[15:43] <EL3PHANTEN> yes or no?
[15:43] <nonuby> possibly the most famous wifi points, the blue/black linksys boxes wr54g/l etc.., from pics the antennas have a thick base, is the antenna connector on the base unit he standard one used for 3rd party antennas once remove the linksys supplied antennas
[15:43] <nonuby> ah crap sorry
[15:44] <intrader> Anyone, all web browsers are unable to load flash - seems to fail with 'embed tpe="application/x-shockwave-flash"' as plugin not supported. How do I reinstall flash?
[15:44] <eeee_> EL3PHANTEN: lsblk | pastebinit
[15:44] <odisa> Hello. I just ran "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade" and I received a message from GRUB (paste: http://paste.ubuntu.com/8027499/ ). Am I correct in selecting "/boot"?
[15:44] <nonuby> intraders, apt-get remove flashplugin-installer, apt-get install flashplugin-installer ?
[15:46] <EL3PHANTEN> eeee_ http://paste.ubuntu.com/8027515/
[15:46] <M4renz-Work> Greetings
[15:47] <odisa> Hello.
[15:47] <reisio> 'lo odisa
[15:48] <eeee_> EL3PHANTEN: i think this is the problem: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1987011 (check the second post)
[15:48] <xxx1337> anyone have any tips for browsing the web while at work and not having co-workers realize?
[15:48] <M4renz-Work> I am looking for an oneiric mirror. I first thought downloading the installer iso for oneiric is enough and would contain the .debs but I can't actually find any deb on the iso. Do you know where I can find the oneiric mirror with the .deb packages?
[15:48] <odisa> Tor Browser. Though this is not the appropriate place to discuss that xxx1337
[15:48] <intrader> nonuby, have done with sudo - does not solve problem; should I reboot?
[15:49] <EL3PHANTEN> eeee_: okey I will take a look
[15:49] <ObrienDave> xxx1337, don't ;P
[15:51] <eeee_> EL3PHANTEN: try in the terminal fdisk -l
[15:51] <xxx1337> odisa thanks
[15:51] <eeee_> EL3PHANTEN: lsblk seems to see everything, but the installer doesn't
[15:52] <EL3PHANTEN> eeee_ fdisk -l does nothing here
[15:52] <EL3PHANTEN> Or outputted nothing
[15:53] <EL3PHANTEN> maybe i missed sudo
[15:53] <EL3PHANTEN> eeee_ http://paste.ubuntu.com/8027557/
[15:53] <reisio> your nick makes my head hurt
[15:53] <odisa> What would cause a disk's unique identifier to change? Would it be anything in standard Ubuntu updates?
[15:54] <reisio> odisa: disks don't have UUIDs, filesystems have
[15:54] <reisio> so maybe your FS was changed (replaced)
[15:54] <reisio> EL3PHANTEN: what're you up to, besides making my eyes hurt with your nick
[15:54] <odisa> reisio: ah ok. the error message I had worded it that way. a replaced filesystem?
[15:54] <SeanChiarot> hey gues, quick one for you, trying to get a public share working between Ubuntu 14.02 and a Windows 7 pc, ubuntu can talk to the Windows PC now with no issues, but when my Windows PC trys to access a network share on the ubuntu pc I get "You do not have permission to access...."
[15:54] <reisio> odisa: quite possibly
[15:55] <intrader> nonuby, I will reboot - I will be away while doing so
[15:55] <odisa> Filesystem is NTFS, ext2/3/4 etc, correct?
[15:55] <EL3PHANTEN> reisio trying to get ubuntu to work
[15:55] <EL3PHANTEN> or together with windows rather
[15:56] <ObrienDave> and give us a headache with your all-caps nick
[15:56] <reisio> EL3PHANTEN: what's not working
[15:56] <reisio> odisa: right
[15:56] <odisa> There are some pretty clear guides on how to do that.. I remember successfully accomplishing the same bridge between 12.04 and Windows 7 with FileZilla utilizing an online guide SeanChiarot
[15:56] <EL3PHANTEN> eeee_ also it says WARNING: GPT detected on /dev/sdb! The util fdisk doesnt support GPT. Use GNU Parted
[15:57] <reisio> EL3PHANTEN: ignore
[15:57] <gottaGO> I;m using 12.04 ubuntu ( 3.11 kernel ) and I can't install nVidia drivers - unmet dependencies : nvidia-current : Depends: nvidia-304 but it is not going to be installed
[15:57] <reisio> EL3PHANTEN: what is the problem
[15:57] <gottaGO> nothing I googled help me
[15:58] <EL3PHANTEN> reisio: I only see a empty 1TB partition when in ubuntu installation. Even tough win7 is installed
[15:58] <EL3PHANTEN> fresh win7 installation
[15:58] <odisa> gottaGO: that is a very common problem.. wish I could help; I gave up after several attempts and reverted to the.. x-org driver it was I believe
[15:58] <odisa> that should function reasonably well
[15:59] <gottaGO> odisa, how I revert to x-org driver ?
[15:59] <EL3PHANTEN> eeee_: Should I try start over. And reinstall win7 with UEFI setting
[15:59] <odisa> gottaGO: is Unity broken for you now? (the window management system)
[15:59] <gottaGO> odisa,  well the resolution is really weird :/
[16:00] <odisa> merely the resolution?
[16:00] <reisio> EL3PHANTEN: what makes you think win7 is installed?
[16:00] <kamran>  TJ-: your back?
[16:00] <eeee_> it might fix the problem of having the gpt backup partition still there, causing the problem (maybe)
[16:00] <TJ-> kamran: I am :)
[16:00] <gottaGO> I think so
[16:01] <kamran> TJ-: ok my Xorg usage normally is much lwoer now, but sometiems spikes too 100% and gets 20% with tear free but like 5% without it
[16:01] <eeee_> EL3PHANTEN: you could use the tools from the thread i posted to fix the partition
[16:01] <EL3PHANTEN> reisio: I know its installed. Because if I reboot from hdd windows loads
[16:01] <gottaGO> odisa, everything else seems normal - expect some weird 600x400 ( whatever ) resolution...
[16:01] <kamran> TJ-: it lags much less now but still lags with tear free, i get these weird slowmotions in teamfortress 2
[16:01] <EL3PHANTEN> eeee_ okey will try that first then
[16:01] <odisa> if it's only the resoluton, just type in "displays" in the Unity search bar, and see if you can alter it manually gottaGO
[16:01] <reisio> EL3PHANTEN: so the problem is you want to access your windows files from Ubuntu?
[16:02] <Somaya> what does dig ns. command do?
[16:02] <EL3PHANTEN> reisio: I want win7 and ubuntu on one laptop
[16:02] <TJ-> kamran: Isn't 'tear-free' another name for vertical synchronisation, so the frames are only updated when the GPU isn't rendering the display framebuffer?
[16:02] <EL3PHANTEN> Dont care if I aceess files
[16:02] <kamran> TJ-: i guess
[16:02] <EL3PHANTEN> use cloud
[16:02] <kamran> TJ-: it amkes vertical sync on unless apps spicifies, that makes windows a little slower
[16:03] <eeee_> reisio: he is installing ubuntu with win7, already partitioned, but ubuntu installer says the drive is completely empty during the installation, lsblk sees the windows partition though
[16:03] <kamran> TJ-: but i can live with it now, it slower, another problem is that sublime scrolling still lags a lot !
[16:03] <TJ-> kamran: Usually V-Sync will lock to the local mains refresh which is 50Hz in Europe and most of Asia, and 60Hz in North America and other places
[16:03] <reisio> oh installing, sorry
[16:03] <kamran> TJ-> 0_0 what does it have to do with country?!
[16:03] <TJ-> kamran: Well, I can't really help you there... except to say... re-check the logs for clues of other issues
[16:03] <reisio> EL3PHANTEN: laptop?
[16:04] <kamran> TJ-: thanks a lot xD
[16:04] <eeee_> EL3PHANTEN: were you running with UEFI enabled before?
[16:04] <kamran> TJ-: but anyway the teamfortress poroblem, can you help me with taht?
[16:04] <TJ-> kamran: V-Sync rate is matched to the local mains Alternating Current frequency
[16:04] <kamran> TJ-: i tought its related to monitor
[16:04] <OerHeks> EL3PHANTEN, you had this issue yesterday too, then you were using gdisk, as you countered the GPT issue
[16:04] <swift_ninja> can i install ubuntu without removing the exisiting windows 8.1??
[16:05] <TJ-> kamran: Sorry, no, that's something you probably need hands-on to solve, because its about perception more than actual proven faults as shown by error reports
[16:05] <EL3PHANTEN> OerHeks Yes. formatted several times today
[16:05] <kamran> TJ-: ok thanks a lot for helping:) now the cpu usage is also fixed, only spikes to 100% rarely ! and gets 20% when selecting text but nromaly is only 2%
[16:06] <TJ-> kamran: Yes, the monitor being mains powered in the old Cathode Ray Tube days, the fly-back was synchronised to the mains frequency. So bit-blitting was done during flyback to avoid 'tearing' and other artifacts
[16:06] <odisa> reisio: So what mount point does GRUB usually sit in? This is the drive in GParted: http://i.imgur.com/HSS5jqb.png
[16:06] <EL3PHANTEN> eeee_: it came with win8 and UEFI
[16:06] <Somaya> can you tell me what does dig ns. command do?
[16:06] <swift_ninja> can i install ubuntu without removing the exisiting windows 8.1??
[16:06] <kamran> TJ-: :O cool, but anyway i gtg thanks ! i guess you also helped me ehre with another problem :P cya !
[16:06] <reisio> odisa: grub is usually installed into the beginning of the first device/disk, /dev/sda, before the first partition
[16:06] <reisio> odisa: with U/EFI it's a little different
[16:06] <EL3PHANTEN> reisio: yes Lenovo IdeaPad s510p
[16:06] <reisio> odisa: and if you're dual booting, there are more considerations
[16:06] <TJ-> kamran: 20% during selecting sounds like the fancy 3D effects are being done on the CPU rather than via OpenGL on GPU, but I don't know if that is expected for that program, or not
[16:06] <Nohofoo> I wan't to join the vboxsf group on ubuntu 14.04
[16:07] <reisio> EL3PHANTEN: look in your bios for sata options
[16:07] <reisio> Nohofoo: gpasswd
[16:07] <eeee_> EL3PHANTEN: ok, then that's probably the problem, windows 7 converted to MBR but the gpt backup partition is still there, confusing the installer
[16:07] <Nohofoo> so I tried :  sudo useradd vboxsf noah
[16:07] <odisa> reisio: it's a single boot disk, with apparently EFI and crypt-luks
[16:07] <kamran> TJ-: i was selecting text in terminal(top stats)
[16:07] <reisio> odisa: why do you ask?
[16:07] <eeee_> EL3PHANTEN:  as per thread i gave you, so use FixParts
[16:07] <Somaya> can you people tell me what does dig ns. command do????????????????
[16:07] <EL3PHANTEN> eeee_ so I should reinstall the whole thing, with UEFI, or try fixparts first?
[16:08] <reisio> Somaya: 'man dig' can
[16:08] <EL3PHANTEN> eeee_ okey
[16:08] <Pici> Somaya: did you read the manpage?
[16:08] <TJ-> kamran: Yes, which runs under the X server ... which is responsible via the compositing manager for the effects
[16:08] <odisa> reisio: because running update & upgrade cmds gave me the following: http://paste.ubuntu.com/8027499/
[16:08] <kamran> TJ-: so thats normal now !
[16:08] <kamran> TJ-: it used to go 60% when selecting and 20% idle, now its 20selcting and 2 idle :) but anyway thanks ! bye
[16:09] <odisa> selecting /boot seems logical, but I don't wanna mess up GRUB
[16:09] <EL3PHANTEN> reisio: http://imgur.com/cumo8Rv,yghIGcs,m1NU6st,EB0UsVC there are 4 images BIOS
[16:09] <reisio> odisa: ask the channel, I'm unfamiliar with U/EFI
[16:09] <Somaya> pici the command is this
[16:09] <TJ-> kamran: Yay, that looks good. Enjoy :)
[16:09] <kamran> Bye :D
[16:09] <odisa> reisio: alright. thanks for having a look nevertheless
[16:09] <Pici> 70
[16:10] <TJ-> odisa: "grub-pc" means GRUB/Ubuntu is/was installed in Legacy BIOS mode. Were you expecting it to be UEFI?
[16:10] <Somaya> pici can you tell me what does it do?
[16:10] <Pici> Somaya: the manpage says it right at the top: DNS lookup utility
[16:11] <EL3PHANTEN> eeee_ what should I do fixparts on? http://paste.ubuntu.com/8027515/
[16:11] <odisa> TJ-: To be honest, I just flew through the installation when I did it.. I don't even completely know what UEFI is
[16:12] <odisa> I selected the disk encryption option (not the home folder encryption) when installing
[16:12] <odisa> perhaps that that necessitated UEFI automatically?
[16:12] <MoPac> Hoping to clarify: is the only way to set custom touchscreen gestures (like 2-finger scroll) to install ginn?  And is the only way to enable ginn to modify the Unity source to disable all of its gesture handling?
[16:12] <swift_ninja> how can i dual boot my laptop with ubuntu. I am running windows 8.1 now??
[16:12] <TJ-> odisa: Unified Extensible Firmware Interface, the replacement for the 'legacy' BIOS, which supports decent firmware <> OS communications, and removes the need for bootloaders that argue over which one is the primary
[16:13] <MoPac> !Dualboot | swift_ninja
[16:13] <eeee_> EL3PHANTEN: /dev/sdb
[16:13] <EL3PHANTEN> okey
[16:14] <odisa> TJ-: ahh yes I vaguely remember.. iffy on the details. so my harddrive is configured to UEFI, while I probably still run BIOS? pardon the tangent, but that doesn't seem to make any sense
[16:14] <TJ-> odisa: When the motherboard's UEFI firmware looks for boot devices, if in UEFI-only mode (not Compatibility Support Module aka Legacy BIOS mode) it looks for a disk that is has a GUID Partition Table (GPT), and that has a FAT12/16/32 partition with type 'EF00', in which case it can read boot-loaders for all installed operating systems from there.
[16:15] <TJ-> odisa: If the CSM was enabled, then it is possible the Ubuntu installer was started in BIOS mode, in which case it wouldn't know there was an UEFI services and would use "grub-pc" instead of "grub-efi" to install the boot-loader to the disk.
[16:15] <gottaGO> odisa, it was after an HWE update - I followed the solution here [ http://askubuntu.com/questions/503724/12-04-x-hwe-hardware-enablement-update-broke-nvidia-proprietary-drivers ] and now seems ok :)
[16:16] <TJ-> odisa: Choosing UEFI or Legacy BIOS CSM boot is sometimes difficult because the UEFI boot menu options don't make it clear which entry's are for an EFI boot and which will be 'legacy BIOS' boots
[16:16] <eeee_> odisa: do you remember if there was a tiny man at the bottom of the ubuntu load screen ?
[16:16] <TJ-> odisa: So, it may be worth reading the system manual and any other documentation about using the boot-loader
[16:16] <odisa> acryonym overload.. I don't understand why everything was working fine.. I mean I'm on the laptop as we speak. and now this error message
[16:17] <odisa> eeee_: I have a horrible memory, sorry
[16:17] <odisa> gottaGO:  thanks, I'll give that a read in a bit
[16:17] <odisa> glad you fixed your issue gottaGO
[16:17] <EL3PHANTEN> eeee_: http://www.rodsbooks.com/fixparts/ I am at the part where it asks if I want to delete GPT signatures. yes or no
[16:17] <gottaGO> odisa, thanks for the help
[16:17] <odisa> sure thing :)
[16:18] <odisa> reisio: could it be that the GRUB was incorrectly updated, thus changing it to grub-pc?
[16:18] <LiamW> I'm starting to panic
[16:18] <LiamW> http://i.imgur.com/UuQtk3U.png
[16:18] <eeee_> EL3PHANTEN: yeah
[16:18] <LiamW> breaking the lock then running sudo dpkg --configure -a segfaults with the same line
[16:20] <reisio> odisa: it could be that you didn't even have grub before
[16:20] <odisa> sorry I meant TJ- in that message, not reisio ..
[16:20] <odisa> could be..
[16:20] <reisio> and the script is too dumb to distinguish between not existing and things having changed
[16:21] <odisa> perhaps a clean install is in order then
[16:21] <odisa> just to simplify things
[16:21] <reisio> nah
[16:22] <odisa> would loading into the BIOS.. or I guess perhaps EFI, offer more information to aid diagnosis?
[16:22] <eeee_> odisa: i don't get what's going on with you, you are sure you're using uefi, and ubuntu is installed in uefi, but it's using the bios grub-pc?
[16:23] <daftykins> LiamW: i'd be using "sudo apt-get -f install" but i guess it calls the same thing in a round-about way. have you considered purging your package cache and having it re-download?
[16:23] <LiamW> daftykins: how should I go about doing that?
[16:23] <LiamW> that will probably end up calling the same thing
[16:23] <odisa> eeee_: I'm not sure.. I have barely a clue what the difference is between BIOS or UEFI, even though it was just explained to me.
[16:23] <odisa> eeee_: The HDD reads as EFI in GParted
[16:23] <daftykins> LiamW: sudo apt-get clean
[16:24] <eeee_> odisa: do you have a efi partition? type in the terminal lsblk | grep /boot/efi
[16:24] <LiamW> daftykins: looks like same crash
[16:24] <odisa> eeee_: ├─sda1                           8:1    0   512M  0 part  /boot/efi
[16:25] <eeee_> yeah so what makes you think you're using grub-pc?
[16:25] <TJ-> odisa: the "grub-pc" package is only installed to legacy BIOS systems; for UEFI systems "grub-efi" is installed. The decision is based on which mode the PC started in, and whether the OS can see the EFI services at "/sys/firmware/efi/..."
[16:25] <LiamW> daftykins: this is the last invocation before it dies: /etc/kernel/postinst.d/zz-extlinux 3.13.0-33-generic /boot/vmlinuz-3.13.0-33-generic
[16:25] <LiamW> it was executed by
[16:25] <LiamW> # run-parts -v /etc/kernel/postinst.d -a 3.13.0-33-generic -a /boot/vmlinuz-3.13.0-33-generic
[16:25] <TJ-> eeee_: "Configuring grub-pc" is a big hint at http://paste.ubuntu.com/8027499/
[16:25] <odisa> eeee_: this http://paste.ubuntu.com/8027499/
[16:26] <Somaya> plz tell me what does dig ns. command do because my ubuntu is reinstalled
[16:26] <eeee_> sorry i wasn't following
[16:26] <reisio> Somaya: what?
[16:27] <Somaya> dig ns .
[16:27] <odisa> wouldn't having a UEFI system require manual updating to my MoBo, considering this laptop is 2 years old and UEFI is rather new?
[16:27] <TJ-> odisa: Is this caused maybe by GRUB being installed to *two* drives, once in Legacy mode and the other in UEFI, and right now it has booted in legacy mode ?
[16:27] <Somaya> what does it do
[16:27] <TJ-> odisa: UEFI came out in 2001 :)
[16:27] <reisio> Somaya: 'man dig'
[16:27] <odisa> TJ-: that could very well be! I have two drives with Ubuntu on it. and oh, my bad
[16:27] <Somaya> i sayed my ubuntu reinstalled
[16:27] <odisa> would unmounting the inactive Ubuntu 12.04 drive I have help?
[16:27] <TJ-> odisa: Yeah... I think that is probably what has happened... if so, the solution may be as simple as altering the firmware's boot-order
[16:28] <aluno2> hack
[16:28] <TJ-> odisa: No, because grub-probe will search all connected devices looking for grub installations
[16:28] <reisio> well, not U-EFI, not exactly :p
[16:28] <aluno2> s
[16:28] <odisa> TJ-: so either change boot order, or disconnect HDD during GRUB update?
[16:28] <EL3PHANTEN> eeee_: finally. fixparts did it. Now I got the option to install together with windows. Now its installing. Actually I dont know if that was the wrong choise, now that I made that unallocated partition.
[16:29] <reisio> its adoption is slow, though, partly because all adoptions are slow, and partly because it has no particular benefit :p
[16:29] <Somaya> reisio , what do you mean?
[16:29] <reisio> Somaya: it's a command, run it
[16:29] <eeee_> EL3PHANTEN: great, i guess it will use the free space
[16:29] <Somaya> you can't know
[16:31] <brandon__> Hey guys, I'm having some trouble with a USB 3rd party XBOX 360 gamepad, and my Google-Fu has proved unhelpful. Anyone able to help with that?
[16:31] <EL3PHANTEN> eeee_: okey. Other wise I just make another e: or something. Anyways. Thank you very much for your help. Have been dealing with this for days now.
[16:31] <aluno2> caris
[16:31] <eeee_> EL3PHANTEN: np
[16:31] <aluno2> ss
[16:31] <Pici> aluno2: Do you have an Ubuntu question?
[16:32] <aluno2> yes
[16:32] <TJ-> odisa: Are you doing the grub-update from the running Ubuntu installation, or via a chroot from a recovery/Live boot?
[16:33] <aluno2> hacek
[16:33] <TJ-> odisa: because, if this is the actual installed system, it is installed in legacy mode otherwise the "grub-pc" package would not be installed at all
[16:33] <Pici> 70
[16:33] <Pici> 70
[16:33] <aluno2> hack?
[16:33] <Pici> ugh.
[16:33] <odisa> TJ-: just via the running installation ; a regular "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade"
[16:33] <Pici> aluno2: not here.
[16:34] <ObrienDave> Pici, Do you have an Ubuntu question? ;P
[16:34] <LiamW> daftykins: computer is completely locked up on X side, can't use TTYs due to my problem in question #252431
[16:34] <Pici> ObrienDave: I just can't type today.
[16:34] <odisa> TJ-: Alright.. so how do I proceed given it is in legacy mode?
[16:34] <ObrienDave> LOL so i noticed :))
[16:34] <daftykins> LiamW: oh so you're not physically at this thing?
[16:34] <daftykins> LiamW: is this machine known-stable?
[16:34] <aluno2> sisis
[16:34] <aluno2> lol
[16:35] <Nohofoo> I changed ownership of ‘sf_UbuntuShare/’ from root to noah
[16:35] <TJ-> odisa: can you do "pastebinit < <(sudo gdisk -l /dev/sda; sudo gdisk -l /dev/sdb)"
[16:35] <Nohofoo> but
[16:35] <LiamW> daftykins: I am at the machine, it's Ubuntu GNOME 14.04
[16:35] <LiamW> I have an IRC bouncer
[16:35] <EmberCrest> Is there a way to download a file over SSH? I want to go to my webserver and download a .zip
[16:35] <Nohofoo> It wtill says: drwxrwx---   1 root vboxsf    0 Aug 10 13:29 sf_UbuntuShare/
[16:36] <daftykins> LiamW: i'd be rebooting and memtesting i would think
[16:36] <Pici> EmberCrest: Use scp.
[16:36] <daftykins> EmberCrest: wget <URL>
[16:36] <odisa> TJ-: I copied and pasted what was within those quotes, and the terminal just exited out on me.. nothing else happened
[16:36] <daftykins> EmberCrest: or as Pici said, depends how they're connected and how the file is shared
[16:37] <codephobic> hi
[16:37] <EmberCrest> Its a .zip on a public webserver
[16:37] <eeee_> EmberCrest: scp user@host:/path/to/file /destination/folder
[16:37] <EmberCrest> Oh ok thanks.
[16:37] <pbx> EmberCrest, the Files app has a "Connect to Server" option also
[16:37] <EmberCrest> I'm on SSH
[16:37] <EmberCrest> :P
[16:37] <EmberCrest> No UI available.
[16:37] <codephobic> are there any utilities to monitor system/cpu fans in ubuntu? I'm just wondering if there's any way to monitor the speed of my Hyper Evo 212.
[16:37] <eeee_> EmberCrest: that's a terminal command
[16:38] <odisa> if there's a way to log it to file, I'll upload it manually TJ-
[16:38] <pbx> eeee_, EmberCrest was probably responding to my suggestion re the Files app
[16:38] <Busserl> EmberCrest: scp will download the file encrypted, so wget should suffice for a public file anyway.
[16:38] <eeee_> ah, i see
[16:38] <bcvery> !sensors | codephobic
[16:39] <odisa> ohh hold on.. I don't have pastebinit installed
[16:39] <odisa> and of course.. dpkg is occupied by the GRUB update
[16:39] <LiamW> daftykins: perhaps the reboot was all it needed. The updates installed without crashing and operation seems back to normal
[16:39] <TJ-> odisa: can you do "cat  >/tmp/gdisk.log < <(sudo gdisk -l /dev/sda; sudo gdisk -l /dev/sdb)"
[16:40] <LiamW> daftykins: I highly doubt a RAM issue, this is a new build
[16:40] <odisa> TJ-: I did that. Let me check that path now.
[16:40] <Nohofoo> how do i get access to this dir?: drwxrwx---   1 root vboxsf    0 Aug 10 13:29 sf_UbuntuShare/
[16:40] <codephobic> thanks
[16:40] <erm3nda> YEAH! HI!
[16:41] <Nohofoo> do i have to shre it from host which is win 8?
[16:41] <ortsvorsteher> Good evening. i run a 12.04 Ubuntu on my laptop. i stopped with ubuntu one services since i had the information that the service will be stopped. now, i still get everey time i log into my computer, that the ubuntu one services will be shut down. how can i turn of that message?
[16:41] <daftykins> LiamW: you'd be surprised what quirks can rise from RAM - a friend had a new build that firefox always crashed with, despite memtest'ing fine, prime95'ing fine... change of RAM fixed it. i could never explain it despite dealing with hardware for a living
[16:42] <erm3nda> im facing poblems with a "broken" install of Ubuntu under a small androidTV device (mk802). No i just have access to Buxybox on ramfs.
[16:42] <erm3nda> I can mount device sdcad succesfull, but cannot mount found mtd block devices. Help :(
[16:42] <odisa> TJ-: do I have to include the quotes? I did it without.. seemed to work fine first time I did it, nothing showed up in /tmp, did it a second time and now it won't clear the line if you get what I mean
[16:42] <odisa> no new user@device comes up
[16:43] <daftykins> erm3nda: you should talk to the manufacturer, pretty sure that'll be a modded version and thus we can't support it
[16:43] <LiamW> Does anyone have any idea why I get like 15 kerneloops crash messages on login, mostly about Alsa?
[16:43] <daftykins> not without logs
[16:44] <daftykins> (and i'd be useless with them, but submit them to the channel)
[16:44] <LiamW> Hmm, I might have to reboot again, it's locked up
[16:44] <ObrienDave> LiamW, REISUB
[16:44] <leeyaa> hello
[16:44] <leeyaa> how to downgrade php to 5.3 on ubuntu 14.04 LTS ?
[16:45] <TJ-> odisa: I surround the commands in quotes to clearly delineate them
[16:45] <daftykins> LiamW: memtest o'clock :)
[16:45] <odisa> TJ-: I was looking in the wrong tmp folder.. sorry..
[16:45] <TJ-> odisa: maybe I got the "cat..." version wrong, all those redirections sometimes get confusing
[16:45] <TJ-> odisa: !!!
[16:46] <ortsvorsteher> !php | ortsvorsteher
[16:46] <odisa> TJ-: gdisk.log is empty
[16:46] <LiamW> daftykins: I looked through my dmesg, didn't find the word "oops" other than a PID
[16:46] <OerHeks> leeyaa, why would you want that?
[16:47] <leeyaa> OerHeks: it is easier to just do it than explain. in short, it is requirement to keep things consistent.
[16:48] <TJ-> odisa: Hmmm... hang on, let me check here
[16:49] <daftykins> leeyaa: if you can find the matched version on one host, you might be able to install "package:version#" or just take the .deb's from the first system you setup
[16:49] <odisa> TJ-: I guess I could cancel out of the GRUB updater and run grub-install later, no?
[16:49] <TJ-> odisa: this works here: "cat >/tmp/gdisk.log < <(sudo gdisk -l /dev/sda; sudo gdisk -l /dev/sdb)"
[16:49] <LiamW> daftykins: by PID I mean /usr/sbin/kerneloops with PID 1258
[16:49] <leeyaa> daftykins: what about repository ?
[16:49] <odisa> thereby freeing up dpkg and allowing me to install pastebinit
[16:49] <odisa> I'll try that first then
[16:49] <daftykins> leeyaa: what do you mean?
[16:49] <TJ-> odisa: I wonder... are you using the BASH or DASH shell ("echo $SHELL") ?
[16:49] <leeyaa> daftykins: replace package version for apt by adding a repository for that, similar to centos
[16:50] <leeyaa> im not sure how to find package:version in apt, i did try searching in cache for 5.3
[16:50] <daftykins> leeyaa: as in set up your own cache mirror?
[16:50] <odisa> bash, TJ-
[16:50] <TJ-> odisa: OK, then that command should work.
[16:50] <leeyaa> daftykins: no, it is fresh 14.04 and i need to install php 5.3
[16:51] <odisa> TJ-: can I add -v to run it in verbose somehow?
[16:51] <daftykins> leeyaa: oh so perhaps 14.04 never had 5.3 then
[16:51] <bijoo_> I have Nvidia optimus card; and of course Ubuntu don't work with that (well it does, but don't really support it; e.g. can't have multiple monitors) So now I'm running a Windows as host; and running Ubuntu raw disk VM; and can setup multiple monitors; though I feel like a cheat, I'm glad it works.
[16:52] <leeyaa> daftykins: would searching for php5.3 be enough to find it ?
[16:52] <TJ-> odisa: switch it around a bit: "sudo gdisk -l /dev/sda >/tmp/gdisk.log; sudo gdisk -l /dev/ssdb >>/tmp/gdisk.log"
[16:52] <LiamW> bijoo_: proprietary drivers, eh
[16:52] <OerHeks> !info php5 precise
[16:52] <tekk> i just upgraded my kernel, prior to which, usb hard drives came up as “ata-ST3000DM001-9YN166_Z1F12VEF” and so on… now they come up as “usb-ST3000DM_001-9YN112_1F12EFFFFFFF-0:0”, did usb-storage get some kinda upgrade?
[16:52] <OerHeks> leeyaa, intall 12.04
[16:52] <daftykins> bijoo_: did you not try bumblebee and nvidia-prime? optimus isn't a card but a technology.
[16:52] <TJ-> odisa: correct my ssdb typo!
[16:52] <bijoo_> LiamW: I know; I'm stupid for not checking first. Never buying Nvidia again.
[16:52] <LiamW> bijoo_: really? they make some of the best cards out there
[16:52] <leeyaa> OerHeks: i need to install it on trusty
[16:53] <bijoo_> daftykins: I'd spent too many hours for my good; this semes like the best solution for me.
[16:53] <leeyaa> we are upgrading from ubuntu 6, 8 and 12 to 14.04 LTS
[16:53] <odisa> TJ-: I did that, and success!
[16:53] <daftykins> leeyaa: probably not no 'cause it'd be nestled under 'php5' so you'd need the specific version of that package name
[16:53] <leeyaa> so i guess ill have to look for a .deb package then
[16:53] <bijoo_> LiamW: I know, but seems proprietary stuff; it don't mix well with Ubuntu too well.
[16:53] <daftykins> bijoo_: ok, so you don't actually have a question then, you just came in to say that? ;)
[16:53] <odisa> TJ-:  http://paste.ubuntu.com/8028029/
[16:53] <TJ-> tekk: symlink paths are created by udev, not the kernel
[16:53] <tekk> ok
[16:53] <tekk> hmm
[16:53] <tekk> additionally it seems the usb 3.0 devices seem to being treated as usb 2.0
[16:54] <LiamW> bijoo_: works mostly ok here, nouveau drivers don't actually work for me but nvidia drivers are good, I can use CUDA, etc
[16:54] <tekk> need to look into that… it may be the bios, so will check there before digging into ehci
[16:54] <bijoo_> daftykins: Yes I'm just throwing it out in the room; since I know I'm not the only one there ;)
[16:54] <TJ-> odisa: OK, you see /dev/sda has partition #1 type EF00? That's an EFI System Partition
[16:55] <TJ-> odisa: whereas /dev/sdb has a legacy MBR partition table so can only be the boot device in CSM mode
[16:55] <bijoo_> LiamW: yes, I've always switch to Windows for that.
[16:56] <TJ-> odisa: /dev/sda also has two other Linux file systems.... use "sudo blkid /dev/sda*" and then pastebin the result, please
[16:56] <odisa> TJ-: ... I can boot in to either just fine. Maybe it automatically switches? Either way.. I suppose I shouldn't install grub-pc on sda then?
[16:56] <odisa> will do
[16:57] <TJ-> odisa: Indeed not!
[16:57] <daftykins> leeyaa: perhaps finding a PPA with the older version and prioritising it would be your best bet, i think what you're doing is wrong though for what it's worth.
[16:57] <TJ-> odisa: Choose /dev/sdb
[16:57] <erm3nda>  daftykins: i have no asking about firm, device or somethingelse. Im asking about how to mount mtd block devices from Ubuntu :(
[16:58] <leeyaa> daftykins: atm im testing and writing plans to update os, later we will deal with the code. it might even work with 5.5.9 but i really doubt it.
[16:58] <daftykins> erm3nda: right, but we only support official versions of the OS.
[16:58] <odisa> TJ-: http://paste.ubuntu.com/8028066/
[16:58] <TJ-> odisa: I think the problem here is, you've got 2 separate Ubuntu installations :)
[16:58] <odisa> TJ-: despite my lack of knowledge on the subject, I'm inclined to believe your theory of sdb messing up the updater is correct
[16:59] <jkcso> TJ-, Actually, that looks more akin to one encrypted install.
[16:59] <odisa> Yes.. I figured that wouldn't be a problem if on seperate disks and one unmounted..
[16:59] <shal3r> I ended up with zero free disk space while upgrading kernels (apt-get dist-upgrade) and got few errors in update process. How to assure that system will not be broken?
[16:59] <jkcso> TJ-, EFI, /boot, and everything else. Without seeing the partition sizes, though, that's just a guess.
[16:59] <TJ-> odisa: OK, so that output shows that /dev/sda3 is the encrypted volume, and we know from the previous pastebins that /dev/sda2 is an unencrypted /boot/ partition that presumably belongs with it
[16:59] <odisa> one is encrypted with the crypt-luks that came with the new 14.04. the other is 12.04
[16:59] <daftykins> shal3r: you can remove some older kernels and make space. is this with a separate /boot partition?
[16:59] <TJ-> jkcso: Yes, that's correct.
[16:59] <odisa> TJ-: that I can follow
[17:00] <jkcso> TJ-, I feel like I've missed a preceding portion of this conversation.
[17:00] <erm3nda> daftykins: understand. Maybe later come back and ask how to mount mtd devices over a manufactured Ubuntu device...  :(
[17:00] <TJ-> odisa: So, for this pending grub-install operation choose "/dev/sdb" and you'll be fine
[17:00] <erm3nda> sad to know. Thank you anyway
[17:00] <TJ-> jkcso: About 1/2 hour worth :)
[17:00] <shal3r> daftykins, i freed some disk space now and it's not on /boot. i just need to somehow be sure that new kernels are not broken
[17:00] <jkcso> Right.
[17:00] <daftykins> shal3r: reinstall them.
[17:01] <odisa> Installation finished. No error reported :D
[17:02] <shal3r> daftykins, i copied all package names which i saw at first dist-upgrade and put them like that: # apt-get install --reinstall bc linux-headers-2.6.32-64 linux-headers-2.6.32-64-server linux-headers-2.6.38-16 linux-headers-2.6.38-16-generic linux-image-2.6.32-64-server linux-image-2.6.38-16-generic landscape-common linux-headers-generic-lts-backport-natty linux-headers-server linux-image-generic-lts-backport-natty linux-image-server linux-server
[17:02] <TJ-> jkcso: summary: 2 disks; sda with an UEFI install of 14.04 with FDE, and sdb with a legacy BIOS install of 12.04, I think. Currently booted from /dev/sdb with a legacy 'grub-pc' "grub-install" operation asking which device to write the MBR + core.img to... so we have been confirming what the correct selection should be there.
[17:02] <shal3r> i hope i will not break that box :)
[17:03] <jkcso> TJ-, gotcha.
[17:03] <daftykins> shal3r: yeah that's too much, you can see recently downloaded packages within /var/cache/apt/archives/ so you can grab names from there
[17:03] <TJ-> jkcso: see also http://paste.ubuntu.com/8027499/   http://paste.ubuntu.com/8028029/
[17:04] <shal3r> daftykins, these packages where shown as "The following NEW packages will be installed" and "The following packages will be upgraded"
[17:04] <odisa> well thanks a lot TJ- , reirio, eeee_, jkcso :)
[17:04] <shal3r> when i unsuccessfully ran `apt-get dist-upgrade`
[17:04]  * jkcso didn't do squat. :P
[17:04] <daftykins> shal3r: ok, well as i say reinstall or run 'sudo apt-get -f install' to confirm things are happy
[17:04] <shal3r> daftykins, ok, thanks
[17:05] <odisa> jkcso: well you tried.. just missed the train, lol
[17:05] <odisa> still appreciate the gesture
[17:05] <shal3r> dpkg: error processing grub-pc (--configure):\n subprocess installed post-installation script returned error exit status 1
[17:05] <jkcso> Sure thing.
[17:06] <Nohofoo> ls: cannot open directory sf_UbuntuShare/: Permission denied
[17:07] <Nohofoo> id noah
[17:07] <Nohofoo> 999(vboxsf)
[17:07] <Nohofoo> drwxrwx---   1 root vboxsf    0 Aug 10 13:29 sf_UbuntuShare/
[17:07] <awc> When I boot up my computer, everything seems to be going okay, except that the screen resolution is not quite right. logging in, results in my background, and a dialog box saying system problem detected. and no mouse cursor. any thoughts?
[17:07] <daftykins> Nohofoo: don't just spam us with junk, state a question
[17:08] <daftykins> !paste | Nohofoo For future reference
[17:08] <Nohofoo> why can't i change ownership of a dir?
[17:08] <daftykins> awc: describe what's happened here, have you just upgraded? is this a clean install? which version?
[17:08] <daftykins> Nohofoo: what are you trying to run to do it?
[17:09] <daftykins> Nohofoo: you should be adding your user to the 'vboxsf' group by the looks of it
[17:09] <Nohofoo> sudo chown -v  noah sf_UbuntuShare/
[17:09] <awc> daftykins, runnin 14.04 clean install. I don't know what started the problem, but power was cut to my place while my computer was on
[17:09] <Nohofoo> changed ownership of ‘sf_UbuntuShare/’ from root to noah
[17:10] <Nohofoo> id noah
[17:10] <Nohofoo> 999(vboxsf)
[17:10] <daftykins> awc: ok, can you reach a TTY with (Ctrl+)Alt+F1 through F6 to login and try a few things?
[17:10] <awc> done!
[17:10] <daftykins> Nohofoo: assuming that's a file share for virtualbox, join their channel and ask how it's meant to work
[17:10] <daftykins> awc: does this system connect wirelessly or wired?
[17:10] <awc> daftykins, wired
   thanks i tried that first
[17:11] <daftykins> Nohofoo: was nobody there?
[17:12] <daftykins> awc: excellent, can you do an 'ifconfig -a' and check if your eth0 has an IP on your LAN?
[17:12] <Nohofoo> <daftykins  283 peeps are there
[17:13] <daftykins> Nohofoo: i meant responsive obviously, haha
[17:13] <Nohofoo> manual says join the group to get access..so I joined the group
[17:13] <awc> daftykins, It looks like it.
[17:14] <daftykins> awc: cool, run a "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade" to be sure
[17:14] <daftykins> Nohofoo: ah did you reboot yet though?
[17:14] <Nohofoo> no reboot
[17:14] <daftykins> do it :>
[17:14] <daftykins> or at least logout and in
[17:14] <Nohofoo> Ok I will
[17:15] <awc> daftykins,  It's running an upgrade to the kernel now
[17:15] <Nohofoo> no tutorial mentioned re log in or reboot
[17:15] <lessless> how to open a tab in existing terminal window and run a command there?
[17:16] <beandog> ctl-shift-t
[17:16] <daftykins> lessless: shortcut keys are beside the options with clicking on the file menu
[17:16] <lessless> beandog, I mean programmaticly
[17:16] <lessless> from a bash function
[17:16] <daftykins> awc: good stuff, let it do that then reboot and come back - if it's still broken, please log in again and install the package "pastebinit" followed by sharing your Xorg log via "pastebinit /var/log/Xorg.0.log"
[17:17] <daftykins> lessless: BASH doesn't know about the terminal emulator in use, i doubt it's do-able... try asking in bash's channel though
[17:17] <beandog> lessless: beats me.  maybe look at tmux
[17:17] <beandog> lessless: what are you trying to accomplish?
[17:18] <saiborg> Hello
[17:18] <lessless> I  need to run a 4 daemon processes on the same port each in separate tab
[17:18] <lessless> *each on the different ports
[17:18] <lessless> sorry :)
[17:18] <lessless> in the foreground
[17:19] <sai> Hello
[17:19] <Nohofoo> I	 rebooted and now have acesss to the folder
[17:19] <beandog> lessless: yah I'd look at tmux, you can probably script something to run in 4 window panes
[17:19] <daftykins> Nohofoo: yay \o/ for future reference all user modifications really require a logout and in :)
[17:19] <awc> daftykins, http://paste.ubuntu.com/8028253
[17:19] <daftykins> awc: still broken huh?
[17:19] <beandog> lessless: can't background the processes?
[17:19] <awc> yep
[17:20] <lessless> beandog, nope
[17:20] <Nohofoo> thanks <daftykins>  i didn't know that
[17:20] <daftykins> awc: did you say this was 14.04 ? it doesn't look like it
[17:21] <awc> daftykins, I thought so...
[17:21] <daftykins> awc: 'cat /etc/issue' ?
[17:21] <beandog> lessless: http://superuser.com/questions/492266/run-or-send-a-command-to-a-tmux-pane-in-a-running-tmux-session
[17:22] <awc> daftykins, Ubuntu 14.04.1 LTS /n /l
[17:22] <daftykins> awc: weird, you should be on a 3.13 kernel not 3.11
[17:23] <daftykins> awc: anywho your nvidia graphics driver is mucking up then switching to vesa, which is breaking your Unity desktop
[17:23] <awc> ahh okay. thanks. so i should just reinstall that>
[17:23] <daftykins> awc: is this a laptop? which graphics card? ("lspci" to confirm) - i see GK104 but no specifics
[17:23] <awc> daftykins, how do I force it to use a newer kernel?
[17:23] <daftykins> awc: "ls /boot | pastebinit" to see which are available first
[17:24] <kow6> Hi. Is there a possibility to buy a notebook without WLAN, audio card, microphone and webcam?
[17:25] <awc> daftykins, it's not, I only have 3.11 available http://paste.ubuntu.com/8028279
[17:25] <daftykins> kow6: this isn't the place for that kind of question, try ##hardware
[17:25] <kow6> daftykins: Thanks
[17:25] <awc> daftykins, it's a desktop, nVidia GeForce 460
[17:26] <daftykins> awc: hmm maybe that one's pretty old school, purge those nvidia drivers first and let's see if nouveau (the open source nvidia driver) works fine - "sudo apt-get remove --purge nvidia*"
[17:27] <awc> daftykins, "package 'nvidia'is not installed
[17:27] <daftykins> awc: you missed the * just after it
[17:28] <daftykins> sudo apt-get remove --purge nvidia*
[17:28] <awc> daftykins, thanks!@ missed thaqt
[17:28] <awc> daftykins, there, done.
[17:28] <jhattara> i'm trying to get this issue fixed http://askubuntu.com/questions/457341/wifi-drops-and-wont-reconnect-until-reboot-14-04-with-rtl8723be
[17:29] <daftykins> awc: should've pulled off 'nvidia' and 'nvidia-settings' among others, so reboot after that
[17:29] <awc> daftykins, thanks. rebooting now
[17:29] <jhattara> how can i set that fwlps=0 parameter to the module rtl8723be ?
[17:31] <daftykins> jhattara: found this via google, could be handy - http://pastebin.com/quv7R645
[17:31] <MeXTuX> oth
[17:31] <csst0111> whoami: admin   hostname:css    then I run "scp -r admin@css:tv.py ~"   I give passwd for admin but I get no such file
[17:31] <awc> daftykins, it seems to have resolved the graphics issue, but i still don't have a mouse cursor
[17:32] <csst0111> not ubuntu 100% question but I hope  I'm on the right channel ?
[17:32] <daftykins> awc: standard desktop reached now is it?
[17:32] <awc> daftykins, that is correct
[17:32] <daftykins> csst0111: you don't scp files from the local machine to itself ;)
[17:33] <awc> daftykins, all my keyboard shortcuts etc seem to be working, there simply isn't a mouse cursor
[17:33] <daftykins> awc: hrmm can you repeat the Xorg.0.log pastebinit from earlier?
[17:33] <daftykins> awc: dumb idea but if it's a USB mouse, replug it? :D
[17:33] <csst0111> daftykins, I'm logged in to a remote server
[17:33] <csst0111> using ssh
[17:33] <awc> daftykins, there's no actual cursor on the screen to move though
[17:34] <daftykins> csst0111: ok it's just the way you reported "hostname=" seemed odd. are you trying to recursively copy the entire home directory?
[17:34] <awc> daftykins, http://pate.ubuntu.com/8028366
[17:34] <daftykins> awc: yeah, i follow
[17:34] <csst0111> daftykins, nope!! :)   I removed  -r but still the same error
[17:35] <daftykins> awc: are they logitech wireless peripherals?
[17:35] <awc> daftykins, yes
[17:35] <eeee_> csst0111: are you ssh'd as admin at the host called css? running the command from there?
[17:35] <daftykins> csst0111: ok use "scp /path/to/file admin@css:."
[17:35] <awc> daftykins, the keyboard works fine though
[17:36] <awc> daftykins, and it's on the smae dongle
[17:36] <csst0111> eeee_, yes I'm logged in as admin and running the cmd from there
[17:36] <eeee_> i think that's what daftykins meant, and that's what it looks like you said
[17:36] <eeee_> csst0111: that's not how you use scp
[17:37] <csst0111> eeee_, hmm...I thought so... I want to copy a file from my server to my local machine
[17:37] <marvin-hh> Do you suggest people to upgrade to 14.04 from 12.04?
[17:37] <eeee_> csst0111: you're supposed to be on your local machine, and run that command there, it logs into the host and gets the file for you
[17:37] <jkcso> marvin-hh, overly generalized question is overly general
[17:37] <daftykins> csst0111: haha, yeah when you're on the system that *has* the file you need to scp file user@host-i-want-to-receive-it
[17:37] <marvin-hh> jkcso: desktop users.
[17:38] <csst0111> daftykins, yeap sorry my mistake :(
[17:38] <daftykins> csst0111: no problemo
[17:38] <jkcso> marvin-hh, anything been configured specially for your current config, any special software?
[17:38] <daftykins> csst0111: bear in mind you can both push and pull via SCP :>
[17:38] <rww> marvin-hh: 12.04 has support until 2017. You'd definitely want to upgrade some time before then. No rush to do it right now, though.
[17:38] <jhattara> daftykins: so i could just put 'options rtl8192be ips=0 fwlps=0' into file /etc/modprobe.d/rtl8192be.conf ?
[17:38] <csst0111> eeee_, and if I want to get it from the remote? Should I log out and then use scp ?
[17:38] <marvin-hh> rww: let me put it differently; why do you even offer it as an option?
[17:38] <jkcso> marvin-hh, at any rate, I don't see why not, as long as you understand what you have and what could, possibly, be incompatible with the new software
[17:38] <daftykins> jhattara: that's what i got from that paste, however i am totally guessing so i would recommend more searching to be comfortable
[17:38] <csst0111> daftykins, right now I can't do anything :D
[17:39] <rww> marvin-hh: 12.04 or 14.04?
[17:39] <daftykins> awc: weird, it definitely confirms it's configuring - is it as silly as dead batteries or the power button being off on the mouse?
[17:39] <marvin-hh> rww: offering 14.04 as an upgrade option for 12.04 when it clearly doesn't work.
[17:39] <marvin-hh> rww: (for an LTS release)
[17:39] <eeee_> csst0111: if you have ssh enabled in the local, you can send it from there (admin@css)
[17:39] <eeee_> csst0111: otherwise, log in to your local machine, and pull it from admin@css
[17:39] <rww> marvin-hh: because our release team disagrees with you about "clearly doesn't work", I expect
[17:39] <marvin-hh> rww: Launchpad is full of bugs in the upgrade process.
[17:40] <marvin-hh> rww: you release team doesn't fix bugs.
[17:40] <awc> daftykins, you know it just might be!
[17:40] <rww> marvin-hh: Is there a specific problem we can help you with?
[17:40]  * awc is a little sheepish for having not turned on his mouse
[17:40] <daftykins> awc: ;D all good now?
[17:40] <awc> daftykins, thanks lol
[17:40] <marvin-hh> rww: allow me to be more precise; you did not fix a problem which has existed for close to two years.
[17:40] <awc> yeah it's all good. thanks man!
[17:41] <rww> marvin-hh: Okay. Which problem is that?
[17:41] <daftykins> awc: no worries :) there's definitely something odd about running a dist-upgrade and still not having the latest kernel but i have no idea how to troubleshoot that one :S anywho enjoy!
[17:41] <rww> bonus points if it has a bug number
[17:41] <marvin-hh> rww: an unicode encoding error in the upgrade process.
[17:41] <marvin-hh> rww: if there is some file containing non-ASCII characters some upgrade process fails.
[17:41] <jkcso> marvin-hh, odd statement, the whole "doesn't work" thing. Worked fine for me on the several dozen workstations I've performed that upgrade on.
[17:41] <awc> daftykins, thanks! I was about to ask, but I'll poke around and see what I can learn online
[17:41] <marvin-hh> rww: there are many, many, many other issues with the upgrade.
[17:41] <csst0111> eeee_, pull works! But I can't push from server to local :/
[17:42] <marvin-hh> jkcso: you probably have users that don't ever change any piece of configuration.
[17:42] <marvin-hh> jkcso: nor install a lot of packages.
[17:42] <csst0111> hmmm.. let me check it once more
[17:42] <jkcso> marvin-hh, odd assumption, and an incorrect one. But cheers, and I'm sorry you're having an issue.
[17:42] <rww> marvin-hh: are you talking about bug 1309447 ?
[17:42] <eeee_> csst0111: command is different, to push use scp <file> admin@css:/path/to/destination
[17:43] <marvin-hh> jkcso: additionally, why don't you comprehend that just because it works fine for you, it doesn't mean that it works everywhere and for all configurations?
[17:43] <marvin-hh> jkcso: I can point at 20 people who have the same problem as I do.
[17:43] <marvin-hh> jkcso: am I imagining things then?
[17:43] <marvin-hh> rww: yes
[17:43] <eeee_> csst0111: sorry, rather user@local (instead of admin@css)
[17:43] <jkcso> marvin-hh, inverse question: Why do you think that something is wholly broken when the vast majority have no issues just because you're the one having a problem?
[17:43] <csst0111> eeee_, yeap that's my mistake I have to change to user@local
[17:43] <csst0111> thanx for the help eeee_ daftykins :)
[17:44] <marvin-hh> jkcso: the majority likely has trivial configurations.
[17:44] <eeee_> csst0111: also, the file goes before the user@local:.
[17:44] <IotaSpencer> is there a package repo for sound and video applications, like video editing
[17:44] <jkcso> marvin-hh, I comprehend things just fine. You're the one who came in making sweeping statements, and are now getting whiny when I respond in kind.
[17:44] <marvin-hh> jkcso: for example those containing only ASCII characters.
[17:44] <csst0111> eeee_, noted! ;)
[17:44] <eeee_> csst0111: np
[17:44] <marvin-hh> jkcso: if you comprehend that, why do you waste my time with your redundant opinions?
[17:46] <marvin-hh> rww: please explain to me why you haven't fixed that in the past two years.
[17:46] <marvin-hh> rww: just Google for the error message.
[17:47] <marvin-hh> rww: the *exact* same problem was also in a previous release.
[17:47] <marvin-hh> rww: if you still believe that you have a functioning release-engineering team, then I am not sure what's wrong with you.
[17:47] <DJones> marvin-hh: You do realise that rww isn't an Ubuntu developer
[17:48] <marvin-hh> DJones: do you think I care?
[17:48] <marvin-hh> DJones: he defends them.
[17:48] <rww> marvin-hh: That Launchpad bug I linked is from April. I'm trying to find one from two years ago. I'm also trying to find one that also mentions it breaks 12.04 -> 14.04 upgrades
[17:49] <rww> marvin-hh: In the meantime, this appears to be trivially fixable by removing non-UTF characters from sources.list, so until you or I find such a bug report, you could just do that.
[17:49] <marvin-hh> rww: sure "trivial".
[17:49] <daftykins> marvin-hh: you have a terrible attitude, perhaps you should change distro.
[17:49] <marvin-hh> rww: I actually looked for those characters (with a program of course).
[17:50] <rww> marvin-hh: please copy the error message you receive and the contents of /etc/apt/sources.list to http://paste.ubuntu.com/ and link the paste it creates here
[17:50] <ArminVB> Hello, I want to deploy a samba server for 8 thousand users, could anyone give some hints on what type of hardware I need?
[17:50] <Psil0Cybin> hey guys i recently upgraded to ubuntu 14.04, from 12.04...i notice that nm-applet does not work and the only way to launch it is using dbus-launch nm-applet, but is that safe? to change? for now to always boot like that?
[17:50] <Psil0Cybin> what does dbus-launch actually do differently?
[17:50] <marvin-hh> rww: I don't think you quite understand.
[17:51] <marvin-hh> rww: I am also not sure what you are trying to achieve.
[17:51] <marvin-hh> rww: if you are not a developer, that is, you are just a user, there is little point in continuing this.
[17:51] <rww> marvin-hh: I'm trying to solve your specific problem, since a community support channel is not really able to fix your general problem of "I don't like Ubuntu QA".
[17:51] <beandog> marvin-hh: agreed, please stop trolling
[17:52] <marvin-hh> rww: no, it's not that I don't "like" Ubuntu QA; I merely qualify it as being non-functional.
[17:52] <marvin-hh> rww: that's not an opinion, that's a fact; if it would be working, I wouldn't be here.
[17:52] <rww> marvin-hh: Okay. Please adjust what I said accordingly, then. Would you like to fix your specific problem(s), or not?
[17:52] <DJones> !contribute | marvin-hh If you have suggestions, the bots links will help,
[17:52] <marvin-hh> rww: I already fixed my problems myself.
[17:53] <marvin-hh> I just hope that nobody else is going to attempt to upgrade.
[17:53] <rww> marvin-hh: I'm glad to hear that. If there's nothing #ubuntu can actually help you with, please have a nice day.
[17:53] <DJones> marvin-hh: ok, so you've also reported a bug, and suggested a fix
[17:53] <DJones> ?
[17:53] <marvin-hh> DJones: if I need to explain to Ubuntu developers how to fix their system, don't you see what's wrong then?
[17:54] <DJones> marvin-hh: Unless somebody reports aproblem, then no
[17:55] <MonkeyDust> guake in combination with screen, how do i open links in irssi?
[17:59] <xcyclist> Say, I was answering an ad on ubuntu one, and the dang thing won't let me log in, and when I try to set my password, it just is unresponsive.  What's with that?
[17:59] <xcyclist> (sorry if this is the wrong place to ask)
[17:59] <eeee_> daftykins: wb
[17:59] <xcyclist> Is there a better place to ask?
[17:59] <ObrienDave> ubuntu one is no longer
[17:59] <MonkeyDust> xcyclist  ubuntu one is no longer maintained
[17:59] <OerHeks> !ubuntuone
[17:59] <compdoc> I think ubuntu one is dead, fred
[18:00] <xcyclist> Okay, so it's just out there and broken and eating up .  Ok.  I'll just ignore it then.
[18:00] <MonkeyDust> "it's worse than that, he's dead, Jim"
[18:01] <xcyclist> Thank you.
[18:01] <IotaSpencer> why doesn't sound and video show up in my synaptic?
[18:01] <ObrienDave> synaptic is a package manager. what do you mean?
[18:02] <IotaSpencer> ObrienDave: "Sound And Video" section
[18:02] <IotaSpencer> pretty sure there was one
[18:03] <OerHeks> IotaSpencer, no sound & video section, try 'multimedia'
[18:04] <eeee_> IotaSpencer: maybe you're thinking software center?
[18:04] <IotaSpencer> eeee_: maybe?
[18:05] <vampolo> #qunit
[18:05] <vampolo> oops sorry
[18:05] <xcyclist> Say, is the latest apt-get install of juju a golang one, or is that yet to become generally available?
[18:13] <jhattara> does someone know if it's possible to use multiple simultaneous vpn connections in ubuntu ?
[18:13] <maziar> hi, i have tkldev turnkeylinux www.turnkeylinux.org/tkldev , and i want to create iso from it, can you help me ?
[18:14] <xcyclist> jhattara:  You can use a very large number of ssh outgoing and incoming instances, but that is at the transport level.  I've never had more than one at the network level.
[18:14] <anew> whats the command for installing firefox?
[18:15] <rajeevirc> anew: Firefox is not already there?
[18:15] <TJ-> jhattara: Yes, as long as you ensure they don't all fight over setting alternate default routes :)
[18:15] <TJ-> OerHeks: eeee_ ObrienDave *experts* We get so many questions relating to the boot sequence, and so many misunderstandings, I've put together a simple flow-chart generated from a Dia-gram to an SVG that web-browsers should display easily. Could yo take a look and suggest improvements. I intend to embed it in an explanatory web-page, probably in the Ubuntu wiki, once it is finalised. http://iam.tj/projects/misc/PC-boot-sequence.svg
[18:16] <Psil0Cybin> hey guys i upgraded to ubuntu 14.04 and im having problems running google chrome - as well as getting nm-applet to work the only way i can get it to appear is by using dbus-launch nm-applet is that safe? what does dbus-launch actually do? differently?
[18:16] <anew> rajeevirc, what dir is it in ?
[18:18] <MonkeyDust> guake in combination with screen, how do i open links in irssi?
[18:18] <krusic22> HI any one i want to unbrick my phone and im curently stuck and i just want to know what does the "12" stand for in this command sudo ./emmc_recover --flash shotrUV.VV.nb0 --device /dev/sdX"12" --backupafter hboot_f.nb0
[18:19] <krusic22> and one?
[18:19] <jhattara> TJ-: any idea how, i have .ovpn files that i used in windows OpenVPN GUI to connect with up to 5 vpns at the same time
[18:19] <TJ-> krusic22: "12" is the partition number on the device /dev/sdX that the nb0 file is to be written to. It's up to you to replace "/dev/sdX12" with the correct device name (sdX) and partition number (12) for your device
[18:20] <anew> i do 'whereis firefox' and all i get is 'firefox:'
[18:20] <TJ-> jhattara: there's various openvpn statements that affect hand-out (server-side) usage (client-side) of defined routes
[18:20] <OerHeks> which firefox
[18:21] <anew> 'which firefox' and nothing
[18:21] <krusic22> ok now how can i replace it with usb-Qualcomm_CDMA_Technologies_MSM_QHSUSB_DLOAD-if00-port0
[18:21] <OerHeks> anew then open softwarecenter and install firefox?
[18:22] <MonkeyDust> anew  whereis firefox
[18:22] <TJ-> krusic22: Is that Ubuntu Phone you're trying to fix?
[18:22] <krusic22> no a android Evo #D
[18:22] <krusic22> 3D*
[18:23] <TJ-> krusic22: Then it isn't an Ubuntu support question. I suggest you ask in the XDA forums for that device
[18:23] <MonkeyDust> anew  ok, you did that
[18:23] <krusic22> I just want to know how can i select the partiton 12 ...
[18:24] <TJ-> krusic22: there is no "just" about it; what you're asking for is complex and could result in further bricking.... talk to the experts who wrote the instructions for your device
[18:24] <anew> software center...
[18:24] <anew> i'm trying to do this from cli
[18:24] <sa__> ciao
[18:25] <OerHeks> anew go for it
[18:25] <anew> i dont understand
[18:25] <anew> what is the command to install it from cli?
[18:26] <OerHeks> sudo apt-get install < package>
[18:27] <rajeevirc> anew:  sudo apt-get install firefox But firefox will be already there in ubuntu
[18:27] <anew> rajeevirc, i couldnt find it
[18:27] <jhutchins> anew: If you removed it or did something that caused it to be removed, it might still be cached in the database.
[18:28] <rajeevirc> anew:  Type 'firefox' in commandline and press enter
[18:28] <anew> ok wasnt installed
[18:28] <anew> installing now
[18:29] <anew> thx
[18:30] <Blenda> anew : you have to enable middle mouse btn in firefox, else it is the same fox
[18:30] <anew> eh?
[18:31] <mykrobinson76> I need some help with a cron job in Ubuntu 14.04, if someone is available to chat about it
[18:34] <ObrienDave> Blenda, you mean there is a different firefox? O.o
[18:34] <Blenda> cfhowlett, have my bamboo, works like a charm without installing drivers! Have to figure out how to turn Touch option off, and how to apply hotkeys by soft
[18:34] <norchacha> @Blenda wtf
[18:34] <Blenda> norchacha : here i had to turn it on
[18:35] <norchacha> Blenda : Oh my bad, I read that wrong. sorry
[18:35] <norchacha> Blenda : I thought you were just trolling my bad my bad
[18:35] <Blenda> ;)
[18:35] <Blenda> never trolling about linux
[18:36] <Blenda> never troll paradise dudes!!!
[18:36] <norchacha> yeah, sorry my bad ignore me please
[18:36] <Blenda> no pb
[18:36] <xNine> Hello, running Lubuntu 14.04 and sound doesn't work. Mplayer is playing music, speakers are ON at full volume and plugged in, but I can't see a system audio control and alsamixer in terminal does nothing.
[18:37] <Blenda> xNine : System tools/audio ?
[18:37] <Blenda> i mean sound
[18:37] <xNine> Blenda: No entry for sound in System Tools nor Preferences
[18:38] <Blenda> THAT IS AWESOME: i just bought a wacom, i plug it in, it works at once, and more the wacom tool appeared, wow
[18:38] <Blenda> xNine : strange, i have here
[18:38] <xNine> Perhaps I'm missing drivers, Blenda?
[18:38] <Blenda> never had sound on this install?
[18:39] <xNine> Fresh install, just done about a half hour ago
[18:39] <Blenda> ok
[18:39] <Blenda> vu meters show sound animation?
[18:40] <xNine> Where could I look at a vu meter at?
[18:40] <Blenda> in some software
[18:40] <Blenda> like audacious (winamp clone)
[18:40] <xNine> ALSA error: No suitable mixer element found.
[18:41] <xNine> perhaps I need to install Alsa first?
[18:41] <xNine> alsa
[18:41] <Blenda> maybe, i'l not expert, but it seems you don't have soundcard detected
[18:41] <Blenda> maybe just a turn off computer
[18:42] <Blenda> turn off, not restart
[18:42] <xNine> shut down and start again?
[18:42] <Blenda> yes of course
[18:42] <Blenda> ;)
[18:42] <Blenda> sometimes soudcards need it, cause don't shut down else
[18:43] <xNine> it's integrated audio on the motherboard, an Intel D865GLC
[18:43] <ObrienDave> TJ-, i'm no expert at that stuff, just a long time power user ;P
[18:43] <Blenda> i ALWAYS try with a shut down when its not workin like it should
[18:43] <Blenda> try it, and after search for your drivers
[18:44] <xNine> Additional drivers?
[18:45] <Psil0Cybin> upgraded to ubuntu 14.04, im having problems starting nm-applet only way is using dbus-launch nm-applet, is that recommended? what is the prefered method?
[18:45] <Blenda> do you try to listen mp3? codec s are not installed
[18:45] <Blenda> you have to dl them, and try audacious
[18:45] <xNine> Checked an MP3 and an MP4 video
[18:45] <Blenda> vlc for videos
[18:45] <maziar> hi, i have tkldev turnkeylinux www.turnkeylinux.org/tkldev , and i want to create iso from it, can you help me ?
[18:46] <Blenda> xNine : audacious for mp3, vlc for vids
[18:47] <xNine> ALSA error: snd_pcm_open failed: No such file or directory.
[18:47] <xNine> when trying to play an MP3 in Audacious
[18:48] <Blenda> xNine : http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1608187
[18:49] <Blenda> xNine : i just googled your error, there are more answers
[18:49] <xNine> no soundcards found...
[18:49] <maziar> Blenda, can you help me ?
[18:49] <maziar> Blenda, hi, i have tkldev turnkeylinux www.turnkeylinux.org/tkldev , and i want to create iso from it, can you help me ?
[18:49] <Blenda> maybe, i'm on linux for 2 months ;à
[18:50] <Blenda> you want to mount an iso, there's a simple answer to that on google, let me find it again, i know there's a pretty basic command line but don't know it
[18:51] <maziar> Blenda, no no, i want create an iso from my applaience
[18:52] <Blenda> maziar : dk sorry
[18:52] <maziar> Blenda,  np
[18:53] <Blenda> xNine : have you tried that? https://www.google.fr/#q=ALSA+error%3A+snd_pcm_open+failed%3A+No+such+file+or+directory.&safe=off
[18:55] <xNine> I just did aplay -l and it said no soundcards found
[18:57] <xNine> so now how do I get the system to detect my soundcard?
[18:57] <PwrSurge> having resume issues with my Toshiba laptop on 14.04
[18:58] <PwrSurge> no issue suspending but when i resume, the GUI keeps flashing
[18:58] <xNine> PwrSurge: ooo! ooo! what kind of Toshiba laptop?
[18:58] <PwrSurge> all windows and menus
[18:58] <xNine> PwrSurge: are you using a dual monitor setup?
[18:58] <PwrSurge> i can still close or open things if i'm quick enough
[18:59] <PwrSurge> but can' really do any work
[18:59] <PwrSurge> no dual monitor no
[18:59] <PwrSurge> it does it 100% of the time after resuming
[18:59] <Psil0Cybin> i think my 14.04 upgrade went really bad, now when i restart i get a fail when it says Starting Mount filesystems on boot...this did not happen before
[18:59] <xNine> What model of laptop do you have? Satellite? Qosmio?
[18:59] <Psil0Cybin> and now it just waits on that screen
[18:59] <PwrSurge> Satellite
[19:00] <PwrSurge> with Intel graphics
[19:00] <PwrSurge> i965
[19:00] <xNine> have you checked Additional Drivers to look for updated drivers?
[19:00] <PwrSurge> yeah, installed latest drivers from intel
[19:00] <PwrSurge> 01.org
[19:00] <xNine> has this been happening before the driver update?
[19:01] <PwrSurge> no
[19:01] <PwrSurge> it might be someting from xorg-edgers repo
[19:01] <xNine> You might need to roll the driver back
[19:01] <Psil0Cybin> g nm-applet to work the only way i can get it to appear is by using dbus-launch nm-applet is that safe? what does dbus-launch actually do? differently?
[19:01] <Psil0Cybin> ugh woops
[19:02] <xNine> unfortunately I'm still rather nooby to Ubuntu, so I don't know how to do that of the top of my head
[19:02] <Psil0Cybin> i think my 14.04 upgrade went really bad, now when i restart i get a fail when it says Starting Mount filesystems on boot...this did not happen before
[19:02] <Psil0Cybin> What can i do?!
[19:02] <Psil0Cybin> i did not do anything, at all..
[19:02] <Psil0Cybin> I keep getting Starting Mount Filesystems on boot [fail]
[19:02] <Psil0Cybin> how could this happen randomly?!
[19:03] <Psil0Cybin> anyone know what i can do to recover??
[19:03] <Psil0Cybin> or is it just a format.....this 14.04 went to heck
[19:03] <Blenda> Psil0Cybin : i had restart issues, had to "sudo reboot"
[19:04] <Psil0Cybin> this is booting up issues
[19:04] <Psil0Cybin> i was just ussing my desktop typed in sudo shutdown -r now, and then this happened
[19:04] <xcyclist> Say, is the latest apt-get install of juju a golang one, or is that yet to become generally available?
[19:04] <Psil0Cybin> all these issues happened, after the upgrade from 12.04.4 last night, to 14.04...it recommended
[19:05] <Psil0Cybin> I get a init: mountall main process (220) terminated with status 127
[19:05] <Blenda> Personnaly i prefer fresh installs, way cleaner
[19:05] <OerHeks> xcyclist, what do you mean with golang one?
[19:06] <xcyclist> OerHeks:  I read there was a rewrite of juju from the original Python into Golang/Go.  Isn't that correct?
[19:06] <MonkeyDust> go lang = google language (programming) -- thank you wikipedia
[19:07] <marvin-hh> Is there a good replacement for meld?
[19:07] <cheesebiscuit> Does anyone know of any sites to learn programming from the ground up?
[19:07] <Guest45846> evening
[19:07] <xcyclist> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Juju_(software)
[19:07] <MonkeyDust> xcyclist  are you a developer?
[19:07] <xcyclist> cheesebiscuit:  I recommend learn Ruby.
[19:07] <xcyclist> MonkeyDust:  Yes.
[19:08] <cheesebiscuit> No. I have no programming experience.
[19:08] <Psil0Cybin> oh can someone please help me
[19:08] <MonkeyDust> xcyclist  there's also #ubuntu-app-devel
[19:08] <Psil0Cybin> i want to still get my SSH keys
[19:08] <Psil0Cybin> and stuff
[19:08] <Psil0Cybin> off the hard drive
[19:08] <Psil0Cybin> what can i do if it cannot mount the filesystems on boot?!
[19:08] <Guest10165> http://askubuntu.com/questions/106428/how-to-disable-automatic-login
[19:08] <MonkeyDust> Psil0Cybin  do'nt hit the enter key too often, it's getting a headache
[19:08] <xcyclist> cheesebiscuit:  Ruby will give you more programming ability more easily and with more clarity than anything else I know.  It is the highest bang for buck, and very respectable.  Learn to use freeze early please.
[19:09] <xcyclist> Thank you MonkeyDust.  I'll try that.
[19:10] <drinkwater> hey
[19:10] <OerHeks> xcyclist, indeed, current juju is in golang/go
[19:10] <xcyclist> OerHeks.  Thank you.
[19:11] <LordSephiroth> Hello can anyone help me? i Got a Ubuntu Server with vsftp and want to add a user. i added the user with #adduser mike --home HOMEDIR --shell /bin/false
[19:11] <LordSephiroth> but if i go on the ftp server with this user it says login incorrect
[19:12] <drinkwater> lordsephiroth is gay?
[19:12] <OerHeks> LordSephiroth, you added an user to server, vsftp has an own user database
[19:12] <OerHeks> drinkwater, drop it, this is ubuntu support
[19:13] <LordSephiroth> okay, but on some tutorials it says so -.- so how do i add the new user
[19:13] <Guest10165> Hi, if I want to reinstall Ubuntu, but it doesn't recognize my adaptec 1220SA raid card on boot, how can I fix it?
[19:13] <ssarah> on the first boot?
[19:13] <Nothing_Much> Are there problems with running XMir with the Oibaf PPA on Radeon APUs? (posted from #ubuntu-mir )
[19:13] <ssarah> try entering in safe mode and installing the external drivers
[19:14] <ssarah> if it's during the installation, i dont know
[19:14] <Guest10165> yes on first boot
[19:14] <sadoi> hello, i have an issue with my speakers, they seem to work but i want to turn up/down the volume i need to go to alsa mixer and put them manualy up/down from there, is there a way to asign this to the main up/down volume menu?
[19:14] <apollon> Hello, I want to change the directory of my "Music" "Movies" and "Pictures" to a ntfs partition where all this stuff is already (dual booting Ubuntu and Win8.1) - any tips how to do that?
[19:17] <apoth> hey there
[19:17] <apoth> it seems to me that I cannot share a folder in LAN
[19:17] <LordSephiroth> apollon: maybe sudo usermod -d /path/to/new/home -m *username*
[19:17] <apollon> I'll try, ty LordSephiroth
[19:17] <apoth> when I try to allow access it says it needs to install samba, but it cant because of bad dependencies
[19:18] <sabotagge> jerry------ jerry
[19:18] <jerry__> hello
[19:18] <sabotagge> hi, bro
[19:18] <jerry__> what up
[19:18] <sabotagge> where are you from?
[19:18] <jerry__> hello
[19:19] <TandyUK> hi guys problem.... I have added my system created user (james) to different groups, and it has removed me from sudo'ers apparantly
[19:19] <TandyUK> how the hell do i do anything to my system now?
[19:19] <TandyUK> as in ubuntus amazing wisdom root doesnt have a password
[19:19] <LordSephiroth> xD
[19:20] <TandyUK> if setup could be bothered to ask me to set a root pass, i could just login locally
[19:20] <LordSephiroth> yeah i know this problem - unfortunately i dont know how to fix it
[19:20] <marvin-hh> TandyUK: that's documented.
[19:21] <TandyUK> so apart from putting in a rescue disk, and hacking my own system to have a root password,
[19:21] <TandyUK> how do i regain access to my system?
[19:21] <rww> !password
[19:22] <rww> instructions above will get you to a root shell. use root shell to fix your group membership
[19:22] <LordLCS> Hello algum brasileiro?
[19:22] <rww> !pt
[19:22] <sadoi> i seem to be able to use my speakers but just if i turn up and down the volume from alsa mixer, the one on my panel bar or the short key seem to do nothing.  they seem to be 2 completely separated things, so i want the shortcuts and the menu thingy to work as one, because even the wheel on my speakers turn up/down but the volume keeps at the same level, just getting into alsa mixer volumes seems to work
[19:22] <sadoi> any ideas?
[19:22] <Psil0Cybin> Hey guys i need help please I keep getting this issue (http://askubuntu.com/questions/431802/mount-error-while-loading-shared-libraries-libudev-so-0-no-such-file-or-dir) I cannot boot! booting in safe mode tells me that it says "'mount: error while loading shared libraries: libudev.so.0 : no such file or directory' "
[19:22] <Psil0Cybin> What can i do
[19:23] <Psil0Cybin> i can only boot in safe mode which is a read only system so i cannot change anything back
[19:23] <TandyUK> ok, and antoher issue on a diff box, whats the correct way to setup ipv6 in ubuntu.. i have followed various guides, which work perfectly on other boxes, but this one in particular cannot ping6 the outside world, but it can ping6 my router
[19:24] <TandyUK> other machines on the same lan have full access to the outside world
[19:24] <Psil0Cybin> is there a way to boot in safe mode so i can make changes? and its not only read only
[19:24] <Psil0Cybin> please can someone help me :(
[19:25] <TandyUK> Psil0Cybin: mount - o remount,rw /
[19:25] <TandyUK> Psil0Cybin: mount -o remount,rw /
[19:25] <osutapu> Hey, guys! I have a huge problem with internet. So, this http://www.reddit.com/r/linuxquestions/comments/2dcv9m/internet_does_not_work_on_linu
[19:25] <osutapu> It's my post
[19:26] <Psil0Cybin> TandyUK, if i have an encrypted home directory would it still work
[19:26] <Psil0Cybin> the same way TandyUK in order to make changes in safe mode?
[19:26] <TandyUK> no idea
[19:26] <TandyUK> if you provide the right keys or w/e is needed for encryption i dont see why not
[19:27] <Psil0Cybin> okay TandyUK thanks it worked
[19:27] <Psil0Cybin> but i cannot figure out why i t says that libudev.so.0
[19:27] <Psil0Cybin> does not exist
[19:27] <LordSephiroth> lol i look so dumb with my ftp server problem
[19:28] <osutapu> Hey, guys! I have a huge problem with internet. So, this http://www.reddit.com/r/linuxquestions/comments/2dcv9m/internet_does_not_work_on_linu
[19:28] <osutapu> Its my post
[19:29] <Psil0Cybin> I keep trying to create a symbolic link from libudev.so.1 or libudev.so.0 and vise versa but it says No such file or directory
[19:29] <Psil0Cybin> how can i get this package again? to redownload?
[19:30] <trijntje> osutapu: what seems to be the problem?
[19:30] <kostkon> !find libudev.so.1
[19:31] <osutapu> trijntje: This. I described it here http://www.reddit.com/r/linuxquestions/comments/2dcv9m/internet_does_not_work_on_linux
[19:35] <Psil0Cybin> kostkon, what do i do
[19:35] <Psil0Cybin> if i some how removed or moved my system lic
[19:35] <Psil0Cybin> link or messed something up in that retrospect
[19:35] <kostkon> Psil0Cybin, install that pacakge?
[19:35] <Psil0Cybin> it says it does not exist anymore
[19:35] <Psil0Cybin> libudev
[19:35] <kostkon> Psil0Cybin, reinstall it then.  sudo apt-get install libudev1 --reinstall
[19:35] <Psil0Cybin> okay let me try
[19:37] <osutapu> Help guys, pls~http://www.reddit.com/r/linuxquestions/comments/2dcv9m/internet_does_not_work_on_linux
[19:38] <jerry__> so whats going on people :)
[19:38] <Beldar> jerry__, #ubuntu-offtopic for chat this is support. ;)
[19:38] <LordSephiroth> OerHeks?
[19:38] <Psil0Cybin> kostkon, trying that now, if this works ill kiss you.
[19:39] <ObrienDave> O.o tmi o.O
[19:39] <jerry__> ok Beldar i will go
[19:39] <Beldar> osutapu, Can you shorten that to the point without the refrences to windows and post the issue here.
[19:39] <Pici> osutapu: You'll need to provide more context in this channel.  People are not willing to click on a link just to read a wall of text.
[19:40] <Beldar> osutapu, One big paragraph is a bit much is all.
[19:40] <Psil0Cybin> kostkon, you are the man of the hour!
[19:40] <Psil0Cybin> my friend.
[19:40] <Blenda> i'm boring
[19:40] <kostkon> Psil0Cybin, :) glad that it works
[19:41] <testerr> Hello, all!
[19:41] <Psil0Cybin> kostkon, that small command, in safe mode (recovery mode) just saved me like hours of gray hairs.
[19:41] <Beldar> Blenda, Do you have a ubuntu support need?
[19:41] <kostkon> Psil0Cybin, :)
[19:41] <Blenda> Beldar : nothing urgent!
[19:41] <PwrSurge> purged xorg-edgers and still have issue
[19:41] <osutapu> so, internet SUDDENLY stopped working on ANY Linux, but it does work in Windows.
[19:41] <LordSephiroth> So i ask again ^^. I got a FTP server with vsftp. Now i want to add a new user.vsftp conf ist that local_enable=YES
[19:41] <LordSephiroth> write_enable=YES
[19:41] <LordSephiroth> chroot_local_user=YES and i added a new user mike with useradd mike --home homedir --shell noshell ^^ why i got a login incorrect
[19:42] <PwrSurge> very strange
[19:42] <MonkeyDust> Blenda  switch off your pc, go out and play
[19:42] <Beldar> Blenda, "Excellent" Mr. Burns
[19:42] <Blenda> No, i prefer staying here with you smart people
[19:43] <osutapu> so, internet SUDDENLY stopped working on ANY Linux, but it does work in Windows. I don't know why this happened, i had win 8 installed, thought maybe it's the problem (i use dualboot), uninstalled it and installed win7 - same results. Internet does not work on both LiveCD and installed system. A month b4 it everything was ok. Now every time linux distro boots up LAN light on modem disappears.
[19:43] <testerr> Hello, all -- I'm trying to get Owncloud 7 to install using the repos on Ubuntu 14.04 Server. I've added the Owncloud community repo with 'sudo sh -c "echo 'deb http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/isv:/ownCloud:/community/xUbuntu_14.04/ /' >> /etc/apt/sources.list.d/owncloud.list"' When I install 'owncloud', though, it installs v6 (which is the latest in the Ubuntu repos, but not the latest in the Owncloud community repo), and I have to then do
[19:43] <testerr>  'apt-get update; apt-get install owncloud' again to get it to update (since it's listed as "held back" when doing 'apt-get upgrade'). Is there a way to tell apt-get to use the community repo as the primary source for the Owncloud package(s)?
[19:43] <osutapu> and i'm kinda noob in linux, there's that
[19:44] <Beldar> osutapu, Key here are details and hardware info.
[19:44] <Pici> testerr: If it is being held back, that means that it wants to bring in other dependencies, which means that you need to use the apt-get dist-upgrade command.
[19:44] <jhattara> ok, found out how i can open multiple openvpn connections simultaneously, i just need to run 'openvpn --config config.ovpn' for each connection separately, now i just need answers to two questions (1) how can i run the process while detaching it from terminal (2) how can i later send SIGTERM to that detached process ?
[19:45] <Pici> testerr: also, Ubuntu will always use the version with the highest version number, so typically community repositories  that provide newer packages are sourced from first.
[19:45] <testerr> Pici: Is there a less all-encompassing way, if I don't want to actually upgrade the distro. itself?
[19:45] <Blenda> osutapu : turn the Airplane mode off (kiddin though maybe...)
[19:45] <Pici> testerr: thats not what that command does.
[19:45] <Pici> !dist-upgrade | testerr
[19:45] <Beldar> osutapu, This a usb modem? if so identify what it's called by running lsusb in the terminal.
[19:46] <testerr> Pici: Oh, I understood that incorrectly. Thank you!
[19:47] <testerr> Pici: Is there a reason why, if the community repo. does have a newer version, it wouldn't immediately install that newest version, and would go with the lower version from the Ubuntu repo. instead?
[19:48] <Pici> testerr: No, unless it fit the aformentioned scenario with the pulling in of more dependencies.
[19:48] <osutapu> well, basically it's all i know. i can give you results of some commands in terminal. And no, it's simple modem, TP-LINK td-8816 i guess. internet was working ok on linux like a month ago, and now it does not work on any linux distro, even fedora, and it does not matter if it's LiveCD mode or installed system.
[19:49] <jhattara> if i want to run a process completely detached from the terminal the correct syntax is 'nohup process &' ?
[19:49] <testerr> Pici: Thanks for your help!
[19:49] <testerr> I'll keep looking into this
[19:50] <Beldar> osutapu, Note we preface posts to others with their nick. Have you tried resetting the modem?
[19:50] <osutapu> Beldar: Yeah, nothing. Also i tried to reset Bios. Again, no results.
[19:51] <Blenda> cables?
[19:51] <frenda>  transmission is connected to peers out of schedule times! Is this a bug?
[19:51] <frenda> I mean, when I tell it to download from 1:00 to 7:00, it also try to be connected to peers out of this range though hopefully it does not download, but, being connect to peers = losing bandwidth
[19:52] <Beldar> osutapu, Your on board hardware is pertinent, lspci in the terminal should identify it, post just the lan and wifi info.
[19:52] <trijntje> frenda: does it connect at 8:00 or at 0:59? Remote peers might not close a connection right away, even if there is no downloading
[19:53] <ssarah> hei guys
[19:53] <ssarah> what does 'sudo passwd' do?
[19:54] <frenda> trijntje: If I restart it at 11:00 which is out of schedule, it just connects to peer (however it does not download).
[19:54] <trijntje> ssarah: it runs the command passwd as administrator
[19:54] <testerr> ssarah: I think that it prompts you to change the password for the root user.
[19:55] <rww> yep
[19:55] <trijntje> frenda: does it connect to peers or to trackers?
[19:55] <rww> and thus falls under the purview of
[19:55] <rww> !noroot
[19:55] <Luyin> !wfm
[19:55] <testerr> Now I'm curious: !root
[19:55] <testerr> !root
[19:57] <osutapu> Beldar, i don't which ones are lan/wifi info c: as i said, i am kinda noob in linux. here's full result http://pastebin.com/ZdLE4sD5
[19:57] <thecodethinker> Hey guys, How do i get to the grub kernel selection screen at boot? Is it holding R-Shift or did they change it?
[19:57] <xcyclist> And you can always set sudo to allow access without passwords if you really want to go nuts.  I recommend that only on a vbox or equivalent, however.
[19:58] <trijntje> thecodethinker: shift should do the trick, not sure if its left/right or both
[19:58] <frenda> trijntje: Peers: http://i.imgur.com/fB85GZA.png AND Trackers: http://i.imgur.com/CguJqlT.png
[19:58] <thecodethinker> trijntje: I've been trying it and it just boots up normally :(
[19:58] <thecodethinker> trijntje: and the new kernel I installed broke my trackpad's driver :'(
[19:59] <thecodethinker> trijntje: I'll try holding both
[19:59] <trijntje> frenda: I thinks thats correct, its connecting to peers but not downloading. Keeping a connection open won't use a lot of bandwith
[20:00] <Beldar> osutapu, These are problematic at best. 03:00.0 Ethernet controller: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. RTL8111/8168/8411 PCI Express Gigabit Ethernet Controller (rev 06)
[20:00] <thecodethinker> no dice :(
[20:00] <osutapu> Beldar, but month ago it was just perfect. I don't get it :c
[20:01] <frenda> trijntje: It's odd! Why they (developers) want to it be connect?1
[20:01] <Beldar> osutapu, Try an earlier kernel in the grub menu
[20:01] <Blenda> Please how to turn the Touchpad off on the Bamboo Pen & Touch?
[20:02] <osutapu> Beldar, ok, tnx
[20:02] <Beldar> osutapu, Links for you to look through. http://askubuntu.com/search?q=RTL8111%2F8168%2F8411+  Include that hardware info in any ask for help.
[20:02] <clark> hi all,  I have machine that only I have access to but connect to Internet using  a mobile modem,   now I just realize I have a lot of files and folders with all permissions (777). Is this a security issue ?
[20:03] <norchacha> Hey anyone here a python guru?
[20:03] <trijntje> frenda: probably so you can start downloading even if the tracker goes offline, using DHT
[20:04] <Beldar> norchacha, For help state the actual issue.
[20:05] <Psil0Cybin> guys how do i manually change cursor size?
[20:05] <clark> if so ? , what files and folders need to have limited permissions ?
[20:06] <testerr> clark: Are there any services running on it that allow you to connect in to it? SSH? A web server?
[20:07] <clark> testerr, not what I know of
[20:09] <clark> testerr, can you run some command to see if that is the case ?
[20:10] <Psil0Cybin> Hey guys i manually changed my mouse themes using this post (http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2221942) post number 7......but it made the mouse theme the default size i want to make the mouse pointer smaller, how can i set it manually using this method to change the theme
[20:10] <Psil0Cybin> sudo update-alternatives --install /usr/share/icons/default/index.theme x-cursor-theme /usr/share/icons/$CURSOR/cursor.theme 20
[20:10] <Psil0Cybin> gsettings set org.gnome.desktop.interface cursor-theme "$CURSOR" && sudo update-alternatives --set x-cursor-theme /usr/share/icons/$CURSOR/cursor.theme
[20:10] <Psil0Cybin> i tried changing the 20 to 16...but it does nothing
[20:11] <ssarah> how do i get this to work http://kde-look.org/content/show.php/Kirby+Desktop+Companion?content=6229 ?
[20:11] <ssarah> (no one alive in kde)
[20:13] <Beldar> Blenda, What ubuntu release are you running?
[20:14] <ssarah> blenda?
[20:14] <agliodbs> so the Ubuntu 14.04 installer mounted my second drive as /usr, even though I gave it a different mount point for the drive.  How on earth can I change this?  I can't move /usr, because it's continuously in use.
[20:14] <Blenda> 14.04
[20:14] <ssarah> ah, =/
[20:14] <Blenda> why?
[20:14] <Psil0Cybin> Hey can someone tell me the file that i can change to manually, change the mouse size in Xubuntu/Ubuntu?
[20:15] <Saur0> hi can someone help with with a simple script
[20:16] <Saur0> just need a loop to copy a file and incriment the file name
[20:16] <odisa> Hello again! I'm trying to install the Oracle Java on my 14.04. I purged openjdk*, but now I found a JRE folder in my /usr/local  folder. Do I need to delete this as well?
[20:16] <Pici> Saur0: The folks in #bash can probably provide some simple commands to help you write a script
[20:17] <Beldar> Blenda, Note we preface answers to others with their nick. http://askubuntu.com/questions/487570/disable-touch-of-the-tablet-in-ubuntu-unity-14-04  You will need to identify the tap pad setup for example if synaptics or another.
[20:17] <trijntje> Saur0: for i in `seq 0 10`; do cp file file$i;done
[20:18] <Saur0> thanks man
[20:19] <potatoes_> so I have a bunch of broken GCC dependencies, it looks like someone tried to upgrade the server incorrectly and as a result the GCC libraries are mismatched with the older versions.  My question is, how can I fix this without breaking things?
[20:21] <testerr> clark: That would be the main thing I would worry about -- something gaining access through an unprotected door, as it were. What does 'sudo service ssh status' say? And 'sudo service apache2 status'?
[20:27] <Psil0Cybin> hey guys changing my cursor size using dconf-editor going to org.gnome.desktop.interface does nothing.....what can i do to make my cursor smaller in size? manually? perhaps there is a code i can put
[20:27] <Psil0Cybin> in roder to reduce size how the automatic function does in settings, as that does nothing
[20:27] <Psil0Cybin> changing those settings
[20:28] <Psil0Cybin> i set it with the following string
[20:28] <Psil0Cybin> gsettings set org.gnome.desktop.interface cursor-theme "$CURSOR" && sudo update-alternatives --set x-cursor-theme /usr/share/icons/$CURSOR/cursor.theme
[20:29] <Flerb> Is there a relatively good streaming server that is easy to set up on ubuntu? I tried using VLC but it got annoying that I couldn't rewind and fast forward from the client and that if it buffered it would just skip what it couldn't load
[20:32] <OerHeks> xyNNN fix your connection please
[20:36] <FabulFabiFabo> bonjour tout le monde
[20:36] <magicflakes> while I am using 12.XX LTS there is a hardware update that I installed automatically and used my nvdia graphics card, now that I am at 14.04 it seems it doesn't have that driver anymore
[20:39] <anew> sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[20:39] <anew> i run this
[20:39] <anew> but then how do i start the actual desktop?
[20:39] <malkauns> reboot
[20:39] <malkauns> or sudo service lightdm start
[20:39] <k1l> anew: sudo lightdm start
[20:40] <anew> hmm nothing happened
[20:40] <anew> i'm in vncviewer
[20:40] <malkauns> reboot then
[20:40] <malkauns> huh?
[20:40] <anew> eh?
[20:40] <malkauns> you're in vncviewer viewing the virtual terminal?
[20:40] <Blenda> Beldar : ok, roger that
[20:41] <anew> i'm in vncviewer viewing the virtual terminal
[20:41] <anew> yes
[20:41] <malkauns> mm not sure how that's possible without X
[20:41] <anew> maybe i have a shitty version installed then... all i see is a gray background and the terminal
[20:41] <anew> and it's slow as hell
[20:43] <kostkon> magicflakes, you checked and it isn't there?
[20:44] <magicflakes> kostkon: I checked Additional Drivers in Software and Updates and its not showing up.
[20:44] <magicflakes> It says no additional drivers available
[20:44] <magicflakes> and No propietary driver in use
[20:45] <OerHeks> magicflakes, for what videocard?  lspci | grep -i  VGA
[20:45] <odisa> TJ-: are you there by any chance? I'd appreciate your help on a short Java question.
[20:45] <magicflakes> 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation Core Processor Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 18)
[20:46] <kostkon> magicflakes, that's intel
[20:46] <magicflakes> I was hoping I would see an nvidia video card
[20:46] <magicflakes> I have intel but I also have an nvdia
[20:47] <magicflakes> the builtin is intel
[20:47] <Psil0Cybin> using ubuntu 14.04 i cannot seem to make the mouse theme smaller, i am using this tutorial askubuntu.com/questions/472137/unable-to-re-size-cursor-on-14-04
[20:47] <Psil0Cybin> and i also tried using dconf-editor in order tochange size but still nothing
[20:47] <Psil0Cybin> i even tried to edit my .Xresources file
[20:47] <OerHeks> sounds like optimus https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HybridGraphics
[20:47] <odisa> what's your output on lspci magicflakes?
[20:48] <odisa> without arguments
[20:48] <magicflakes> odisa: 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation Core Processor Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 18)
[20:48] <odisa> magicflakes: no I mean just "lspci" without the grep pipe
[20:49] <odisa> if you could paste that to ubuntu
[20:49] <dmitru_> Good time of day
[20:50] <dmitru_> Protection of images http://paste.ubuntu.com/8029740/  The application of these technologies will increase confidence in system and in images.
[20:50] <magicflakes> here http://paste.ubuntu.com/8029844/
[20:52] <odisa> hmm ok magicflakes .. looks normal. could've been that it was misclassifying it, or not classifying it at all, hence why I asked
[20:53] <odisa> you're sure there's a compatible nVidia chip in there?
[20:53] <OerHeks> magicflakes, looks like an 2nd adapter is disabled in bios
[20:54] <odisa> ^ I'd trust that interpretation more than my own
[20:54] <odisa> Nice nick btw
[20:54] <magicflakes> yeah here's my unit http://www.asus.com/Notebooks_Ultrabooks/K52JC/
[20:54] <magicflakes> okay i'll do a reboot and try if I can enable the chip
[20:54] <lonix> Ok, so i dident pay attention in class it seems how to i set domain search in ubuntu server 14.04 ?
[20:55] <lonix> i used to do it with /etc/resolv.conf wich is no longer viable
[20:56] <anew> http://i.imgur.com/yK7XvUL.png anyone know why when i run vncviewer i have this instead of desktop
[20:56] <odisa> yeah.. see when I do lspci I get two VGA outputs
[20:56] <odisa> one for the internal intel, the other for the VGA. so when that happens you know you're good
[20:57] <odisa> the other for the nvidia*
[20:57] <magicflakes> okay thanks.. brb
[20:57] <odisa> good luck
[20:59] <odisa> no experience with VNC myself, maybe https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VNC can help you anew ?
[21:00] <anew> how can i see the desktop tho /
[21:00] <jackarius86> can anyone give me any advice for optimizing my gfx setup, i am using Trusty and i think most of the work is done for me automatically, but i could do with a more up to date driver
[21:00] <Ben64> anew: how did you set up the vnc server
[21:01] <anew> i just installed vncserver
[21:01] <anew> then run command vncserver
[21:01] <jackarius86> this computer used to run games perfectly well on windows but now it struggles
[21:01] <jackarius86> im guessing i just need to update the driver
[21:01] <Ben64> anew: you probably want to use vino or something instead
[21:01] <Ben64> jackarius86: give hardware details
[21:02] <anew> vino
[21:02] <anew> why vino???
[21:02] <jackarius86> Ben64: what command do you want me to do to give you this, i am unfamiliar with these commands
[21:02] <linuxuz3r> may cause its better than vncserver
[21:03] <anew> argh
[21:03] <Ben64> jackarius86: do you know what video card you have
[21:04] <jackarius86> not exactly
[21:04] <jackarius86> i know it is an ati, and that is it
[21:04] <Ben64> jackarius86: then pastebin "lshw -C VIDEO"
[21:06] <Psil0Cybin> ugh dconf does not work when making a mouse theme smaller, what the heck
[21:06] <Psil0Cybin> blasted 14.04
[21:06] <Psil0Cybin> :P
[21:06] <Psil0Cybin> fighting al day
[21:06] <jackarius86> Ben64: http://pastebin.com/nSAU0Fir
[21:07] <tekk> any ideas why on 14.04 my usb 3.0 devices are detected as usb 3.0 but run at usb 2.0 speeds?
[21:09] <sydney> tekk:because your using usb 2.0 ports?
[21:10] <Ben64> jackarius86: it seems like that card isn't supported by the latest binary drivers anymore
[21:10] <tekk> sydney, i don’t even have usb 2.0 ports
[21:10] <tekk> :0
[21:10] <TandyUK> in 14.04 how do i turn the horrible 3d style ui off and revert to somethign i dont need a £50 gpu to render?
[21:10] <sydney> What do you have then?
[21:11] <tekk> i also checked in my bios to see if the usb ports were in some emulation mode
[21:11] <tekk> and there is no usb options
[21:11] <tekk> i’m using a gigabyte brix intel nuc
[21:11] <jackarius86> Ben64: sooo, im stuck with it?
[21:11] <tekk> they have 4 usb 3.0 ports… which as the standard permits, can fall back
[21:11] <tekk> but no usb 2.0 ports
[21:11] <MonkeyDust> TandyUK  install a different DE, logout, switch, login
[21:11] <TandyUK> im happy with the look of it, i just dont want all the fancy fade in/out, highlights, etc etc
[21:11] <Ben64> jackarius86: probably. thats why most people don't use ati/amd on linux
[21:11] <sydney> tekk:i have no clue... :(
[21:12] <tekk> nor do i :( i tried a few things already
[21:12] <Ben64> jackarius86: although, the radeon open source driver keeps getting better
[21:12] <tekk> how can i check which usb-storage driver is loaded? ehci etc?
[21:12] <MonkeyDust> TandyUK  unitytweak and compizconfig let you enable or disable alot
[21:12] <jackarius86> :(
[21:12] <lblume> Hello
[21:12] <sydney> tekk: it could be a driver incompatability.
[21:13] <tekk> true
[21:13] <tekk> i wonder if there are any “restricted” / closed drivers available
[21:13] <TandyUK> one for the devs: it would be nice during setup if there was a way to choose my dm, like there is in like every other distro
[21:13] <tekk> the update manager in the ubuntu gui automatically checks restricted repo’s etc and lets you switch…. how can one do that on ubuntu-server?
[21:14] <tekk> i.e. check if you have a better driver available on one of the restricted/multiverse repo’s without enabling them
[21:14] <lblume> My ubuntu 14.04 unity session is locked, and it's refusing to unlock (the password is good, just nothing happens). I can ssh in, but I just can't find which process to kill to unlock it. Any idea?
[21:14] <sydney> tekk:they would be listed in the 'additional drivers' program.
[21:14] <tekk> right, does that have a cli equivelant
[21:14] <tekk> i’m not running X
[21:14] <tekk> jockey-text
[21:15] <tekk> google is my friend :)
[21:15] <xNine> so I found some drivers for Red Hat, is there a way to magic make them work with Ubuntu?
[21:15] <malkauns> lblume: looks like u may have to restart lightdm then
[21:15] <tekk> http://askubuntu.com/questions/27061/install-restricted-drivers-in-command-line for reference
[21:15] <deleon> opa
[21:15] <malkauns> lblume: sudo service lightdm restart
[21:15] <deleon> kakak
[21:15] <deleon> kakak
[21:15] <deleon> akaka
[21:15] <deleon> kka
[21:16] <lblume> malkauns: That will kill the session, right? There was an update running there, it should have worked well, but I'd have liked to see the output
[21:16] <malkauns> lblume: yea it will kill the session
[21:17] <tekk> seems thats deprecated
[21:17] <tekk> ubuntu-drivers-common replaces
[21:17] <lblume> Dang. That issue happens from time to time, but I thought last time I had managed to get in.
[21:17] <lblume> malkauns: Thanks!
[21:17] <malkauns> lblume: use top to see if anything important is running
[21:18] <lblume> Nothing active. Ah well.
[21:19] <tekk> maybe i should try a newer kernel...
[21:19] <tekk> i’m running 3.13 (pretty new)
[21:20] <xNine> How can i find drivers for my soundcard?
[21:22] <anew> and why dont i see the gnome desktop when i'm using vncviewer?
[21:22] <k1l> !away > megabit|away
[21:25] <xNine> How can I find/install drivers for soundcards? Normally my soundcard works OOTB, but for some reason it isn't this time
[21:25] <NGC3982_> "Video playback is done via a WebBrowser because of Silverlight DRM."
[21:25] <NGC3982_> :((
[21:26] <KingSphinx> I have a Toshiba Satellite L505, and currently I'm trying to figure out why certain ACPI things seem to be so fickle. Last night, when I booted an Ubuntu live USB, everything worked fine (all the Fn+F* keys, especially), but when I booted into it today, the Fn+key support stopped. Trying to figure out why.
[21:26] <OerHeks> NGC3982_, bad luch, silverlight/moonlight is no longer usable on linux. if you find a fix, let us know
[21:26] <OerHeks> luck*
[21:27] <TandyUK> ok, so i just activated the nvidia restricted driver, and rebooted
[21:27] <kostkon> NGC3982_, what are you after?
[21:27] <NGC3982_> Does that mean that the XBMC plugin will not work?
[21:27] <NGC3982_> ..For Netflix?
[21:27] <NGC3982_> Sorry, i actually pasted that in the wrong channel, initially.
[21:27] <NGC3982_> ;)
[21:27] <TandyUK> now i have a blank screen, no response from kb/mouse, no cursor, and cant ssh into my box
[21:27] <TandyUK> any suggestions?
[21:27] <kostkon> NGC3982_, xbmc stuff? ok then
[21:28] <kostkon> NGC3982_, oh. nvm. anyway, there's pipelight and the chrome + html5 solution
[21:29] <xNine> HELP~ I have no sound and AlsaInfo reports me to have no drivers or soundcard, how can I install my soundcard?
[21:29] <icecube45> any ideas why my python code (an irc bot) is timing out only when ran on my ubuntu 14.04 server?
[21:29] <OerHeks> no need for plugins for netflix, newest chrome uses html5 > http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=MTc1ODY
[21:29] <kostkon> nice how-to here http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2014/08/netflix-linux-html5-support-plugins
[21:33] <jCart> Hey guys. My wifi stopped working after the power was cut from my laptop. I try to run, "sudo service networking restart" and I get, "Job failed while stopping"
[21:34] <xnine_> Hello, I'm having problems with a soundcard on Ubuntu 14.04. ALSA isn't reporting an available soundcard, and no drivers available. The soundcard is integrated into the motherboard, how can I obtain drivers?
[21:36] <pwuertz> Hi, is there a way to find and contact package maintainers directly for fixing a bug?
[21:36] <OerHeks> pwuertz, yes, tru launchpad project page
[21:37] <OerHeks> pwuertz, file a bugreport with the solution, i guess
[21:37] <pwuertz> OerHeks: bugs.launchpad? Well, the bug I'm thinking about is several years old and nobody seemed to be interested
[21:37] <xnine_> would it be worth attempting to reinstall Ubuntu to get my sound card working?\
[21:37] <k1l> !bug | pwuertz
[21:38] <jhutchins> jCart: Can you just use the gui controlls to reconnect?
[21:38] <pwuertz> I did.. that bug is registered since 2011/2012
[21:38] <Jeffrey_f> So, a few weeks ago, my new drive took a dump and is currently being warranty-replaced.  In the interim, I reinstalled on to my original drive.......I don't want to go through another install..  Is is possible to MOVE my system to another drive?    Currently installed drive is encrypted.
[21:38] <jCart> jhutchins: no
[21:39] <jCart> jhutchins: the wifi option is plainly not here
[21:39] <kostkon> xNine, what's the output from   aplay -l
[21:39] <pwuertz> OerHeks: I found the reason and a solution now, so I'd like to tell someone of authority about it.
[21:39] <xNine> kostkon: no soundcards found...
[21:40] <k1l> pwuertz: what package is it?
[21:41] <kostkon> xNine,  hmmm, then   lspci | grep -i audio    and    cat /proc/asound/cards
[21:41] <pwuertz> k1l: "libgl1-mesa-dev" from the "mesa" source package installs a "libGL.so" symlink that overrides libGL on Nvidia systems
[21:41] <k1l> pwuertz: is it still an issue at all?
[21:42] <xnine_> xnine@ExperimentalPotato:~$ lspci | grep -i audio
[21:42] <xnine_> xnine@ExperimentalPotato:~$ cat /proc/asound/cards
[21:42] <xnine_> cat: /proc/asound/cards: No such file or directory
[21:42] <pwuertz> k1l: Yep, it prevents PyQt from using OpenGL on Nvidia systems
[21:42] <jCart> jhutchins: any other ideas?
[21:42] <kostkon> xNine, not even visible by lspci?
[21:42] <xNine> kostkon: nothing from the lspci grep
[21:43] <kostkon> xNine, maybe check/paste the whole output of lspci and lsusb. i mean on paste.ubuntu.com
[21:44] <xnine_> kostkon: http://paste.ubuntu.com/8030199/
[21:44] <xnine_> intel boards are weird
[21:44] <kostkon> xNine, i'm not seeing any soundcards
[21:44] <xnine_> nor am I kostkon
[21:44] <kostkon> xNine, what about lsusb
[21:45] <jCart> Hey guys. My wifi stopped working after the power was cut from my laptop. I try to run, "sudo service networking restart" and I get, "Job failed while stopping" What should I do?
[21:45] <xnine_> http://paste.ubuntu.com/8030205/ kostkon
[21:45] <quantibility> ok
[21:45] <xNine> I'm going to test a reboot and ensure I've enabled onboard sound in the BIOS
[21:45] <pwuertz> k1l: You know who to contact to get it removed/fixed?
[21:45] <k1l> pwuertz: i would suggest to file a bug on launchpad for that package.
[21:45] <quantibility> can someone please explain to how to keep the screen from going off?
[21:45] <Psil0Cybin> i keep getting a lightdm boot fail, i tried to reinstall it but it wants to install unity packages..
[21:46] <kostkon> xNine, that's what i was planning to suggest
[21:46] <k1l> Psil0Cybin: what did you do before that happend? what kind of setup? what error?
[21:46] <xNine> the heck? how did it get disabled in BIOS? if that fixed it I'm going to be pissed...
[21:46] <kostkon> xNine, heh
[21:46] <Psil0Cybin> i removed ubuntu-desktop and made sure xubuntu-desktop stayed
[21:47] <Psil0Cybin> i notice it must have messed up something
[21:47] <Psil0Cybin> so im down in the root shell, trying to figure out if i can configure it to boot with xubuntu-desktop
[21:47] <Psil0Cybin> or what package i would reinstall
[21:47] <pwuertz> k1l: Bug filing doesn't work for me, there was no reaction concerning that bug report for 2 years. I found the reason now and I'd like to do something about it.
[21:47] <OerHeks> Psil0Cybin, easy on the enter > reinstall xubuntu-desktop
[21:48] <Psil0Cybin> apt-get remove xubuntu-desktop
[21:48] <Psil0Cybin> ? and then install sorry last time with the enter, just a habbit when stressed.
[21:48] <k1l> pwuertz: bug filing is the usual way of acting in that case. the maintainers get contacted through the packages involved
[21:49] <xNine> son of a... sound works now. how the hell did it get disabled at BIOS? thank you kostkon...
[21:49] <kostkon> xNine, np :)
[21:50] <pwuertz> k1l: Right, I did that.. nothing happened.. what is plan B in this case?
[21:51] <k1l> if there was no solution back than what do you expect now to happen magically? do it now with the solution
[21:53] <bencc> is there a way to know if an installed package was installed as a dependency?
[21:54] <OerHeks> bencc apt-cache rdepends <package> should do what you want
[21:54] <pwuertz> k1l: Well, I expected that during that time someone would have commented on that bug report. Maybe asking me to check something, maybe asking for other details that could help narrowing the problem down. Maybe commenting on some hints I dropped in between.
[21:55] <pwuertz> k1l: All that didn't happen. So I don't expect someone to magically appear now that I posted another comment that happens to include a solution.
[21:55] <jhattara> if it
[21:56] <k1l> pwuertz: as i said: that is the usual way. and since its searchable thourh launchpad and goole it helps other people to find the solution.
[21:56]  * k1l cant type anymore :/
[21:56] <jhattara> if it's this easy (openvpn --config config.ovpn) to open multiple vpn connections, why has no one integrated the feature into network manager ...
[21:57] <dm7freek> Is there a way to have the synaptic package manager show it's initial welcome popup after selecting not to show it again?
[21:58] <Psil0Cybin> OerHeks, anything else i can do, i tried reinstalling xubuntu-desktop, lightdm
[21:58] <OerHeks> Psil0Cybin, reinstalling xubuntu-desktop should do the trick
[21:59] <Psil0Cybin> OerHeks, i typed sudo apt-get install --reinstall xubuntu-desktop
[21:59] <OerHeks> that should be correct
[21:59] <bencc> OerHeks:  thanks. your code gives me all options while this semss to give me exactly the reason: aptitude why apache2
[21:59] <Psil0Cybin> i know and irebooted after and it says LightDM Failed, but i know its because I removed ubuntu-desktop
[22:00] <bencc> OerHeks: and now I see why apache2 got installed. thanks
[22:00] <OerHeks> bencc, have fun
[22:01] <dm7freek> nvm i got it
[22:01] <Psil0Cybin> hmm OerHeks still did it again, same problem lightdm fails to boot i even tried typing sudo update-rc.d lightdm defaults
[22:02] <bencc> when installing package with apt-get that has several optional dependencies. how do I choose?
[22:03] <thinknow> Hey guys
[22:03] <thinknow> Is it a way i can install Ubuntu 14 with CD(not dvd) ?
[22:03] <thinknow> i dont have any dvd's, just many cd's
[22:04] <xangua> !minimal | thinknow
[22:04] <TandyUK> download the netinstall image?
[22:04] <bencc> thinknow: I think there is online-install version
[22:04] <thinknow> before i could split it to different cd's, but cant find out if that is possible anymore, and if, how?
[22:04] <solarfly> holy cow. my libapt-pkg4.12 library went corrupt and broke all the apt tools.  Thank god wget and dpkg were working. Makes me worry about the integrity of everything else though
[22:04] <k1l> thinknow: you got a usb pendrive?
[22:04] <bencc> thinknow: you can also use usb but the minimial xangua linked to is nice
[22:04] <TandyUK> yeah the desktop iso + a usb key + YUMI works well
[22:04] <thinknow> k1l, i dont get access to super user, so i cant add usb as boot option
[22:04] <TandyUK> i just installed 3 machines using exactly that method
[22:05] <k1l> thinknow: you cant change to boot from usb? are you even allowed to install then?
[22:05] <TandyUK> why would "dont get access to super user" have *any* effect on you doing a clean install??
[22:06] <TandyUK> you do a clean install, you ARE the super user
[22:06] <solarfly> ...unless there's a BIOS password
[22:06] <TandyUK> bios is easy to reset
[22:06] <TandyUK> unless its a stolen laptop
[22:06] <Psil0Cybin> OerHeks, i found that a file called /etc/lightdm/lightdm.conf had Ubuntu Unity stuff left over
[22:07] <Psil0Cybin> for user session what would i place xubuntu and for greeter-session it says unity-greeter
[22:07] <Psil0Cybin> user session says ubuntu and greeter-session is unity greeter, what would be the content of a xubuntu lightdm conf file
[22:08] <solarfly> TandyUK at some enterprise companies there's mechanisms that make breaking into the bios extremely difficult without ruining the system. Encryption, smartcards, etc.  Sometimes, it's way more trouble to bypass IT.  If you can't enable USB for booting (or it's disabled), you probably work somewhere where you shouldn't be reinstalling anyway
[22:08] <kuta> hello everyone, could anyone help me with this please: I'd like to download some links on a page selectively (link pages from a table of contents)..can I use the command line to do so?
[22:09] <solarfly> kuta, can you cut and paste the URL and use wget or curl ?
[22:10] <cynicallemon> kuta: you can extract links on a page using lynx
[22:10] <Psil0Cybin> got it OerHeks
[22:10] <Psil0Cybin> finally, it was that config file, set to load unity and ubuntu greeters.
[22:11] <OerHeks> Psil0Cybin, glad you found it :-)
[22:11] <Psil0Cybin> learned plenty today
[22:11] <kuta> solarfly, do you mean this command: wget -r -A pdf -nc -np http://thesite.com  ? I used it once, but I dont want every link on the page to be downloaded, i.e. without the standard links on the site navigation.
[22:12] <solarfly> kuta: that's the right idea, except specify the full URL to the thing you want and it will download just that thing
[22:12] <solarfly> If you want to see just the text to your terminal, use curl
[22:13] <solarfly> If you need to programatically  parse a web page and extract the links, that's a different story - then use lynx to do that first, then wget to grab what you want
[22:15] <cynicallemon> also if u know python then beautiful soup is very handy for handling urls on a web page
[22:15] <solarfly> kuta: this isn't ubuntu specific, mind you.  There's also a handy ##linux channel
[22:15] <disf_> hi
[22:16] <disf_> some here??
[22:17] <disf_> some here??
[22:17] <dodo3773> hey. got an old macbook and figured I'd install ubuntu on it for ease of use. anything special I need to do during the install phase.
[22:18] <solarfly> dodo3773 I went with a different bootloader... that rocks for running linux.  What's this thing called...
[22:19] <solarfly> dodo3773: http://www.rodsbooks.com/refind/
[22:19] <solarfly> This was so incredibly painless to install on my mac
[22:19] <dodo3773> solarfly: will it load without it from the included installer?
[22:20] <disf_> how i can connect 2 laptops??
[22:21] <solarfly> dodo3773 I suspect you will still need a boot manager like bootcamp (or rEFInd) for the mac.  GRUB is only a boot loader.
[22:21] <solarfly> Might not be a bad idea to keep your mac OS around on a little partition anyway, just in case Steve Jobs springs back to life and offers you some life changing patch
[22:22] <dodo3773> solarfly: there is no mac os
[22:22] <solarfly> ah.
[22:22] <dodo3773> solarfly: the hard drive was shot that's why I got it for free
[22:23] <solarfly> Might as well just try it and see if it works, you literally have nothing to lose
[22:24] <mamece2> hi, its me again. i have a problem updating
[22:24] <ObrienDave> disf_, with an ethernet crossover cable
[22:24] <kuta> solarfly, yes, you're right about linux. but ubuntu command line uses linux commands, so it can still help people see answers to my question
[22:24] <kuta> may I go on?
[22:25] <webnet> anyh reason uninstaling libreoffic, gwiber, empathy, thuinderbird, and a handful of other apps would uninstall ubuntu-desktop? ive been having an issue with this. rebooting brings me to "failed to load session 'ubuntu'". switching to another tty and reinstalling ubuntu-desktop reinstalls all the programs i was trying to get rid of.
[22:25] <mamece2> can anyone help me with this http://paste.ubuntu.com/8030468/
[22:25] <disf_> ObrienDave: i want to connect from far.. i think i need a vpn
[22:25] <ObrienDave> oh
[22:26] <kuta> the problem with the command is that there is a pdf in there, and I dont know what to replace it with. the download content is the text on the URL page, so I tried html, but the output is an empty folder
[22:26] <cynicallemon> webnet: have you tried uninstalling those packages one at a time?
[22:26] <Zutara> Hi. I'm trying to mount an ipod nano (2nd Gen) but 12.04 doesn't report anything to dmesg when I plug the iPod in.
[22:27] <Zutara> Anyone have success with mounting 2nd Generation Nanos?
[22:27] <cynicallemon> webnet: ubuntu-desktop is a meta package so may uninstall additional components which ubuntu needs
[22:27] <mamece2> hi. i have a problem updating
[22:27] <webnet> yes actually. i thought perhaps narrowing it down to one causing an issue would find it but not so. any of the packages installed out of the box seems to have this effect.
[22:29] <cynicallemon> webnet: never tried it of late but those core apps are pretty much tied to core ubuntu stuff
[22:30] <webnet> im trying to remove all ubuntu games, shotwell, libreoffice* , empathy, thunderbird, gwibber, transmission, brasero, rhythmbox, and gimp. removing any of these seems to break it,
[22:30] <solarfly> webnet I scrapped unity completely, compiled enlightenment (e18) and terminology and moved on with my life. Things are so bundled in ubuntu
[22:30] <cynicallemon> webnet: yeah its probably unity tying into them
[22:31] <solarfly> webnet: did you try dpkg -r instead of apt-get ?
[22:31] <webnet> see im not using unity at all though. unity unity-asset-pool unity-lens-applications unity-lens-files unity-lens-music unity-lens-video unity-scope-musicstores unity-scope-video-remote have all been removed
[22:31] <Jeffrey_f> So, a few weeks ago, my new drive took a dump and is currently being warranty-replaced.  In the interim, I reinstalled on to my original drive.......I don't want to go through another install..  Is is possible to MOVE my system to another drive?    Currently installed drive is encrypted.
[22:32] <webnet> and they dont cause an issue and are not reinstalled with ubuntu-desktop
[22:32] <webnet> its only when i start removing apps that things get wonky
[22:33] <solarfly> webnet the real question you need to ask is what you're after. If you don't want unity, you might just want to remove all of that and put another desktop manager in place.  Actually, you can keep it on the system and experiment with other desktops until you find something you like
[22:34] <cynicallemon> solarfly: Gnome 3 seems a good option after Unity but that has its issues too...
[22:35] <solarfly> cynicallemon personally, I want a desktop that's really out of my way. I run xchat, hipchat, chrome and terminology. That's it, so enlightenment is perfect
[22:37] <Psil0Cybin> Hey guys how can i remove the guest login from the lightdm greeter?
[22:39] <webnet> solarfly, ive rmoved all unity packages and am using AWN with cardapio menu
[22:40] <tommyfun> Psil0Cybin: it used to be in /etc/lightdm/lightdm.conf
[22:41] <Psil0Cybin> i found /usr/share/lightdm/lightdm.conf.d/50-guest-wrapper.conf
[22:41] <Psil0Cybin> but how do i disable the guest login :P haha so new
[22:41] <tommyfun> you need to add some lines
[22:41] <Psil0Cybin> i tried putting allow-guest=false there
[22:41] <Psil0Cybin> i was thinking of removing the file all together but that may cause problems
[22:41] <tommyfun> allow-guest=false
[22:41] <Psil0Cybin> i did that no go
[22:41] <webnet> Psil0Cybin, reboot changes wont reflect until you reboot the system
[22:41] <Psil0Cybin> but it seems to have /usr/lib/lightdm/liguhtdm-guest-session
[22:42] <cynicallemon> solarfly: i use xfce and this stays well out the way
[22:42] <tommyfun> are you on 14.04?
[22:42] <anew> ~/.vnc/xstartup
[22:42] <anew> i'm trying to find this dir
[22:42] <anew> but it's not there ?
[22:42] <TJ-> Zutara: probably needs the USB Mass Storage driver loading. "sudo modprobe usb-storage"
[22:42] <webnet> anew, enable hidden hile viewing
[22:43] <Psil0Cybin> restarting now
[22:43] <webnet> anew, ctrl+H on most file managers
[22:43] <Psil0Cybin> but i do not think that will do anything
[22:43] <anew> in cli ?
[22:43] <Psil0Cybin> i think there is a file i am missing with a guest variable, perhaps
[22:43] <Geo> I have eth0 (192.168.0.1) and eth1 (192.168.1.1) NICs. running ping -I eth0 192.168.1.1 and tcpdump -i eth1, I see the ping requests get to eth1, but there are no ping replies generated. What could be the cause?
[22:43] <webnet> anew,  in cli do ls -a
[22:43] <Zutara> TJ, "mount: special device /dev/sdc2 does not exist"
[22:43] <cynicallemon> Geo: firewall?
[22:43] <anew> cd /.vnc
[22:44] <anew> how do i cd into a hidden dir ?
[22:44] <webnet> or you can actually just cd into that directory cd ~/.vnc/xstartup
[22:44] <TJ-> Zutara: what is /dev/sdc2 ?
[22:44] <anew> yeah i tried that it said it didnt exist
[22:44] <Geo> cynicallemon: none.
[22:44] <Geo> its the same machine
[22:44] <Zutara> It's still not showing up in dmesg. /dev/sdc2 is what a lot of tutorials on ubuntu forums say to do.
[22:44] <webnet> anew, then try cd ~/.vnc/ and do an ls
[22:44] <Geo> I'm thinking the kernel is doing something since its all local, perhaps?
[22:45] <gr33n7007h> anew, cd .directory
[22:45] <anew> cool got it
[22:45] <anew> thx
[22:45] <PwrSurge> found the bug
[22:45] <PwrSurge> https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?pid=1443930
[22:45] <webnet> anew, glad its sorted!
[22:45] <TJ-> Zutara: No! /dev/sdc2 is specific to each system. On yours it will be different. If you've modprobe-d usb-storage, re-plug the device and watch kern.log for it with "tail -f /var/log/kern.log"
[22:45] <PwrSurge> it's my compiz that keeps crashing when resuming from suspend
[22:46] <PwrSurge> was not able to find ubuntu specific info but it impacts arch linux as well
[22:46] <PwrSurge> apparently, downgrading the kernel or the intel driver fixes it
[22:46] <Zutara> TJ-, nothing changes.
[22:47] <TJ-> Geo: It is not possible to route within the same kernel; in other words, what you are trying is not possible.
[22:47] <PwrSurge> at least on archlinux
[22:47] <PwrSurge> tried downgrading the intel driver already and it does not work
[22:47] <PwrSurge> so will try downgrading the kernel
[22:47] <webnet> solarfly, if it were up to me id be flux or openbox with cli for most everything which is my personal system but this is one im building for someone. and ive built systems with this exact process before but forwhever reason something sees to have changed.
[22:47] <TandyUK> Zutara: cat /proc/partitions and look for the one which is the right size
[22:48] <TandyUK> Zutara: also being a usb device, there should only be 1 partition on it
[22:48] <cynicallemon> webnet: +1 for openbox
[22:48] <PwrSurge> WORKS!
[22:48] <TJ-> Zutara: Does the USB port work for other devices? Does the device work when connected to other PCs?
[22:48] <PwrSurge> my god
[22:48] <awatt> hi guys
[22:48] <webnet> cynicallemon, woo!
[22:48] <PwrSurge> downgrading the kernel that is
[22:49] <awatt> what is the best tool to recover from scratched audio cds?
[22:49] <PwrSurge> kind of strange that it would work
[22:49] <webnet> ill be back trying something here.
[22:50] <jorge> what happened to ifconfig?
[22:50] <intrader> Anyone,After update to 14.04.1, I am unable to enable flash for chrome. Flash for firefox seems Ok.
[22:50] <TandyUK> awatt: a nzb or torrent client, a search engine and a 320kbps download of it?  not sure there is a good software tool to recover scratched cds - thats basically a hardware fault
[22:50] <Zutara> TJ-, The USB port is in working order. The device works fine on other PC's. The output of cat /proc/partitions lists 7 partitions, but I don't know which one is the 4GB iPod.
[22:50] <TandyUK> and dont trust the "scratch doctor" or other similar products, they will just fuck your disk up even worse
[22:51] <boccobrock> intrader: chrome or chromium?
[22:51] <TJ-> awatt: try polishing the CD with toothpaste, wash and dry thoroughly
[22:52] <ldiamond> I want to record all audio (input and output) on my PC (for recording a hangout session). Anyone know how to T the audio signals and mix them?
[22:52] <awatt> TJ-: thank you
[22:52] <Geo> TJ-, I'm not trying to route within the kernal, I'm trying to get it OUT of the kernel
[22:52] <Geo> i want it all out
[22:52] <TJ-> Zutara: Try "ls -l /dev/disk/by-label/" or "ls -l /dev/disk/by-id/" for clues
[22:53] <TJ-> Geo: you ran the 'ping' from a different host ?
[22:53] <Geo> the kernel is already keeping it and not passing it to the NIC
[22:53] <mus> hello. can someone please help me? everytime i click on "trash" in thunar it suddenly closes. what should i do?
[22:53] <Psil0Cybin> gah lol i keep noticing these bugs, when i go to settings and click About me, it does not open so i can not change my picture for my logo when I sign in :P Lol
[22:53] <Psil0Cybin> win some you lose some
[22:53] <Geo> no, the same host, from one NIC to another
[22:53] <TJ-> Geo: I repeat: It is not possible to route within the same kernel; in other words, what you are trying is not possible.
[22:53] <Geo> what part of what I'm saying is routing?
[22:53] <Geo> I want traffic to go out to a switch
[22:54] <Zutara> TJ-, The "by-id" command doesn't list the iPod.
[22:54] <Geo> even if the dst is on the same machine
[22:54] <Geo> the kernel is already determining that the dst IP is local and shouldnt go to the NIC
[22:54] <Zutara> Also the "by-label" command only lists my Laptop's HD
[22:55] <Geo> i want that to not happen, which I would classify as 'not route'
[22:55] <TJ-> Geo: As far as the kernel is concerned, there are *no* NICs... once packets arrive in the network layer, thats it. It doesn't matter which doorway (interface) they came in on, nor which they are destined for. If both interfaces belong to the same kernel then thats it. Routing only operates externally between logically separate hosts
[22:56] <TJ-> Geo: If you were to do "ping -I eth0 192.168.1.100" so the packet *leaves* the host, you'll see it on tcpdump
[22:57] <intrader> boccobrock, chromium - sorry
[22:57] <TJ-> Zutara: looks like the device isn't being recognised then - have you tried different USB ports on the PC?
[22:57] <Zutara> I've tried the other one but it doesn't work.
[22:57] <Geo> ... right. And I do. I dont see a reply being generated from that interface
[22:57] <Zutara> There's only 2 on this laptop
[22:58] <boccobrock> intrader: chromium dropped support for npapi flash, you will need to install pepper flash for chromium. or use chrome
[22:58] <Geo> my assumption is that because even though I forced it out, when it gets it, it shunts it back via the kernel as a reply
[22:58] <andrej> is there a clean/easy way to make it so system accounts have the same numeric uid on all systems?  as it stands it appears that system accounts (e.g. www-data or nagios) have random uid's based on the order in which packages get installed
[22:59] <boccobrock> intrader: http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2014/06/install-pepper-flash-chromium-ubuntu-14-04
[23:00] <TJ-> Geo: think of it this way... the kernel is told to send a packet from itself (using the source IP belonging to eth0) and send it to the host which answers to 192.168.1.1... it looks at the routing table and realises it *is* the host that owns 192.168.1.1 ... it can't route the packet out and back in again because it doesn't have loopback interfaces
[23:01] <mikeg3> Hi I would like to reinstall Ubuntu…but the installer does not "see" the HDD I want to use.  The HDD is connected to a Adaptec 1220SA Raid controller, but in JBOD mode.  Any ideas to help troubleshoot?  Thanks.
[23:02] <TJ-> Zutara: You sure you've not connected the iPod using a charging-only cable?
[23:03] <Geo> TJ-: that part makes sense
[23:03] <Zutara> If that's the case.... Ah well. Thank your for your suggestions TJ. :)
[23:03] <Zutara> *you
[23:03] <Geo> however, im looking at the local routing table now
[23:04] <Geo> that seems to be where that function is vontrolled?
[23:08] <TJ-> Geo: You can only do internal routes using the 'lo' interface, e.g. this will work: "ping -c 2 -n -I lo 192.168.1.1"
[23:09] <Deihmos> i wonder why hibernate if greyed out on my laptop
[23:11] <TJ-> Geo: you'll see in "/etc/network/interfaces" that the 'lo' interface is defined as loopback: "iface lo inet loopback"
[23:15] <luke__> hi
[23:17] <ShazMan> I need some slight assistance.  I am trying to install Ubuntu 14.04 using the ISO file and when I try to boot from the USB Drive, it gives me a "Missing Operating System" error.  Anyone know what is causing this?
[23:19] <TJ-> ShazMan: did you checksum the USB to ensure it was written correctly? that message comes from the motherboar'd firmware when it can't find a boot record
[23:20] <OerHeks> ShazMan, how did you prepare that usb?
[23:21] <ShazMan> I didn't know I had to prepare it.  How would I go about doing that?
[23:21] <OerHeks> unetbootin or the usb-creator tool in ubuntu
[23:21] <intrader> boccobrock, does not work - plugin not supported
[23:22] <ShazMan> brb
[23:32] <intrader> boccobrock, how does one install chrome?
[23:33] <OerHeks> intrader, use the .deb from the website, that will install the repo and chrome
[23:34] <Loshki> OerHeks: it installs a repo?
[23:35] <OerHeks> Yes
[23:36] <kostkon> Loshki, i can confirm that. I've used it
[23:37] <OerHeks> google-chrome.list
[23:38] <Loshki> Er, are we talking chrome-os here, or chromium browser?
[23:39] <OerHeks> ask them, chrome = chrome browser , else they need to specify
[23:39] <intrader> OerHeks,  thanks for the tip; I will do so - for now I need to go attend to eating first
[23:39] <OerHeks> chromium browser is in the repo's
[23:39] <_unreal_> hello. ok so I'm in the middle of installing ubuntu 14.4 I have an ATI X1050. is there a best driver to get for this video card?
[23:40] <OerHeks> _unreal_, the standard driver i guess, as Ati 1xxx 2xxx 3xxx 4xxx are no longer supported by the ati driver
[23:41] <OerHeks> !ati
[23:41] <NoCoins> I'm running 14.04 on a Oracle Vbox and it's updating at like... 0.2 FPS. What's the bottleneck?
[23:42] <_unreal_> configuring bcmwl-kenel-source (amd64) my install has been sitting on this for about 25min now. and has not advanced
[23:42] <Loshki> _unreal_: open another terminal window and see what ps -ax and top say is running...
[23:43] <_unreal_> this is the machine that I'm installing on.
[23:44] <_unreal_> how would I open a ternal window? I only got on here becuase you can click on a hyper link in that little scrolling winow thing as the install goes along
[23:45] <Beldar> NoCoins, Try checking the general download on the web, and you can change the repo.
[23:46] <NoCoins> Beldar, I mean the actual VM is updating so slowly. E.g. I click the launcher and it takes 5-6 seconds to just show the search bar.
[23:47] <NoCoins> I swear lol, I've seen like every shade of wine, or whatever color the fade away is
[23:47] <Loshki> _unreal_: I usually run the live dvd and then run install from there. That way, you have a (mostly) functional machine during (most of) the install. You also get to check out if everything works before you commit...
[23:47] <Beldar> NoCoins, Still checking the general download is relevant, you router might need a restart, oracle severs may be slow right now as well.
[23:48] <NoCoins> It's local :)
[23:48] <_unreal_> Loshki: thats what I'm on now
[23:48] <_unreal_> so how would I open a ternimal window
[23:48] <kostkon> NoCoins, have you installed the guest additions in vb?
[23:48] <NoCoins> Pretty sure I did... Let me double check...
[23:49] <TJ-> _unreal_: Maybe Ctrl+Alt+T ?
[23:49] <NoCoins> Oh god I just opened LibreOffice by accident what have I done
[23:49] <Beldar> NoCoins, Does it have enough memory allocated and graphic allotment?
[23:50] <Loshki> _unreal_: well on my system, it's under applications -> system tools -> xterm. If you're running Unity I've no idea, sorry...
[23:50] <TJ-> NoCoins: .... opened LibreOffice :)
[23:50] <_unreal_> hum
[23:50] <Loshki> NoCoins: don't panic. It will stop (eventually)...
[23:50] <_unreal_> tried ctrl+alt+t first thing
[23:51] <_unreal_> when you start the install the menu goes away
[23:51] <_unreal_> so starting programs is no longer an otpion to my knowlagdge
[23:51] <Loshki> _unreal_: try ctrl-alt-f2 and see if you get a login screen. I dunno if this works during install. It's been a while...
[23:52] <_unreal_> how would I get back here is it does work?
[23:52] <OerHeks> Loshki, that would work from live-mode, i guess the installer is single mode?
[23:52] <Loshki> _unreal_: to return to the main display, ctrl-alt-f7
[23:53] <_unreal_> ctrf6 and f7
[23:53] <_unreal_> lots of stuf running
[23:54] <Loshki> OerHeks: At one time, I was able to run live dvd applications and watch the install mount, prep & copy the disks etc. It doesn't *require* single user, as long as you don't do anything stupid. Not sure about 14.04 installer though...
[23:55] <Loshki> _unreal_: run "top"? See who're the top 3 cpu gobblers, for starters
[23:55] <noud_is_nol> hi all
[23:55] <noud_is_nol> any..oeps
[23:55] <noud_is_nol> odd
[23:56] <Loshki> noud_is_nol: what do you need?
[23:57] <_unreal_> I'm going to try closing firefox I'
[23:57] <_unreal_> I'll be back
[23:57] <NoCoins> Uh
[23:57] <NoCoins> Okay this is probably wrong
[23:57] <NoCoins> http://i.gyazo.com/ed34c430f90ba4d5523c80cfefadf3bb.gif