[00:04] wil upgrading the new LTS break my duel boot? [00:04] ty [00:04] maybe it will but its easy to fix? [00:05] grub should keep.. isn't it on a small partition [00:06] If you're using UEFI, yes. [00:06] (There are other, non-default ways to get it as well, but that's the same with everything.) === wilson is now known as Guest93169 [00:14] hey, how do i turn safeboot off? [00:15] or get into BIOS settings to do it? [00:21] this is kinda urgent guys [00:22] its cuz of my OS [00:22] wrong chat [00:25] sup [00:26] can u help me format my HD in xubuntu? [00:26] or turn safeboot off? [00:35] is there a command or something i can use to wipe everything off my Hard Drive? including the OS? [00:40] is there a command or something i can use to wipe everything off my Hard Drive? including the OS? [00:50] is there a command or something i can use to wipe everything off my Hard Drive? including the OS? [00:51] yes, but we're not allowed to tell it to you [00:51] you arent? [00:51] can u go in my comp nd do it? i need to uninstall Xubuntu... [00:51] uttering such a commanand can get you banned [00:52] oh :( [00:52] *command [00:52] what are you trying to accomplish? [00:52] is there a wy to uninstall it without the command that shall not be named? [00:53] i need to turn safeboot off so i can re-install windows but cant access bios by using the delete button? [00:53] or uninstall Xubuntu would work too, and i need to format my Hard Drive anyways :/ [00:54] normally BIOS is F2 or F10, depends on your computer [00:54] ill try now [00:54] f2 is startup [00:54] why not boot into a live DVD sys? [00:55] much easier [00:55] cuz i only ave recovery disk [00:55] from Acer [00:55] ok, that will wipe out the HD and reinstall windows [00:56] it cnt cuz its in safe mode and i cant get it out cuz i cant get into BIOS, neither f2 or f10 work [00:56] can't* sorry [00:56] np [00:56] this comp is missing the a key so its just a lil rubber nub [00:56] which safe mode? window? [00:57] the computer is [00:57] in safemode, and i need it out to boot from this disk [00:57] yes, windows safe mode? [00:58] i dunno, support guy just said i needed to go into my BIOS and turn safemode off [00:58] then he said he couldnt help cuz i hve xubuntu installed and stopped talking [00:59] well, for bios i've also seen home, delete, any number of F keys. you need to find which key is for your bios [01:00] comp model number? [01:00] is there a way to format without the forbidden command? [01:00] uhm..acer aspire e1-522 [01:00] the command is not really a format, it's a delete all command [01:00] oh! ms2372 [01:01] oh [01:01] so it wouldnt work? [01:01] not as a format, sorry. long weekend, very tired [01:02] no its fine [01:02] im sorry for being clueless about this [01:03] no prob. everything i'm reading shows F2 for bios [01:04] ok im in this menu, at the top the tbs say: information, main, security, boot and exit [01:04] no bios or safeboot anywhere [01:04] you're in UEFI boot screen [01:05] boot mode is legacy [01:05] i no nothing about UEFI settings [01:05] *know [01:06] boot mode is legacy though...not UEFI [01:06] !uefi [01:06] UEFI is a specification that defines a software interface between an operating system and platform firmware. It is meant as a replacement for the BIOS. For information on how to set up and install Ubuntu and its derivatives on UEFI machines please read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UEFI [01:07] oh [01:07] just a FYI for you [01:07] so you cant help? [01:08] what happens when you try to boot the recovery disk? [01:09] says to switch to UEFI, then when i pick an option it says to switch to LEGACY and just dosnt work [01:09] er, when i put it in legacy it says to switch to uefi again [01:10] hmm, look for a safeboot setting [01:10] would it be secure boot? [01:11] could be, i dunno really [01:11] mmm :/ [01:11] what is safe boot set to? [01:11] secure ;P [01:12] enabled, and i cant change it [01:12] wont let me select it [01:12] there is probably another setting to allow access to that one [01:13] got it! had to set an Admin password, lets see if this works now [01:13] ok [01:14] thank you :3 [01:14] once you turn secure boot off, the DVD should boot [01:15] i think it is, disk drive is spinning away [01:15] cool, back in 5 [01:16] ok [01:16] :) [01:17] didnt work :( [01:20] ok, what happened? [01:20] said to boot from legacy BIOS [01:20] same as before [01:21] ok go back to UEFI menu and change that setting, i would assume [01:22] ok trying now [01:25] "this recovery system can only be used in "UEFI" mode" [01:25] stupid comp [01:26] i would suggest reading further on your system and see how to do it. [01:26] i need to format my HD so i can use the DEL button to get into bios [01:26] do you know how i can do that? [01:27] from a live system. burn a live ISO to DVD [01:28] would Xubuntu 14.04 on a usb work? [01:28] yes [01:28] ok, lemme go grab it [01:30] do i boot off the usb? [01:31] yes [01:35] did, that recovery disk come with that system? [01:35] what do i select from this menu? default, help, try, install, check disc for defects,test memory, boot from hard disk? [01:36] or tab to edit options? [01:36] try [01:37] ok its loading up now [01:37] ok now what [01:38] sorry if i seem demanding [01:38] i dont mean too [01:38] no to worry [01:38] *not [01:38] ok :) [01:38] i'm not sure if wiping the drive will allow the DVD to boot. are you sure you want to do this? [01:39] ya i have everything backe dup and if all else fails i can reinstall xubuntu [01:39] backed up* [01:40] ok, last chance ;P [01:40] haha ok, what do i do? [01:40] run gparted it should be in system i think [01:41] how do i start it? [01:41] run it* [01:42] it's in the menu somewhere [01:43] i cant find it, neither can application finder, and i checked software center, says its installed [01:44] how about rebooting the USB and going for the install? [01:44] i already have it installed, cn i just boot from HDD? [01:45] you want to overwrite the HD, yes? [01:45] i'm confused [01:46] i want to completely remove Xubuntu [01:46] so i can install Windows instead [01:48] open a terminal, type gksu gparted [01:48] in the try thing or the installed? [01:49] you are now running from the live USB, yes? [01:49] yes [01:49] ok, open a terminal, type gksu gparted [01:50] ok [01:51] have to install gksu [01:52] try just, gparted [01:52] it says only root may run it [01:52] sudo gparted [01:53] that worked [01:53] top right, select the drive you want to work with [01:53] ok [01:54] done [01:54] device, create partition table [01:54] it should say msdos [01:54] a new partition cant be created when there are active partitions? [01:55] 1 partition currently active on device /dev/sda [01:55] ?? [01:55] are you in the correct drive? [01:55] ok, unmount that drive [01:56] uh... [01:56] it is unmounted [01:56] should i mount then unmount? [01:56] yes, try that [01:57] didnt work [01:58] status is :busy(at least one logical partition is mounted) [01:58] that help at all? [01:58] ok, try rebooting to USB, go for install [01:58] wait, what about deactivating in gparted? [01:59] deactivating? [01:59] i can right click and there is a deactivate option [02:00] never seen that one. try it [02:01] didnt work, but now there is a format to option? [02:01] "format to" [02:01] ok, try the create partition table [02:02] says a partition is still active [02:02] what size is the drive? [02:03] oh i got it [02:03] there was another thing activated tht i thought was the usb [02:03] i see the msdos thing now [02:04] wait! [02:04] i am [02:04] make SURE you have the HD selected, sda, i believe [02:04] ok, [02:04] ya its sda [02:05] now create [02:05] msdos? [02:05] what size is the drive? [02:05] 698.64 GiB [02:06] yes, msdos [02:06] ok [02:06] now what [02:07] drive should say unallocated after this [02:07] yep [02:07] partition, new [02:08] make the whole drive NTFS [02:08] how? [02:10] do i just make the new size the max it can be? [02:10] and turn file systems to ntfs? [02:10] select NTFS from the 'type' drop down [02:10] 'file system' sorry [02:11] np [02:11] yes, to both [02:11] i did [02:11] ok [02:11] now what [02:11] green check mark to apply [02:11] ok done [02:12] ok, you now have a completely empty HD. shut down, remove USB, try to boot the DVD [02:12] ok [02:16] hi just uupdated Xubuntu LTS and i see at boot I have the normal Ubuntu entires but I also have one just called Ubuntu. Which do i choose and does it matter? [02:17] the Ubuntu entry in GRUB is supposed to be the right one and update with new kernels [02:17] but i can't get it ti update LOL [02:17] *it to [02:17] I hav Ubuntu, and Ubuntu with Linux etc.. [02:18] oh i see [02:18] ty [02:18] yw [02:22] ugh saying to use legacy mode then UEFI(i think thats the letters) mode -.- [02:24] i give up for tonight, too tired and frustrated right now [02:24] g'night ObrienDave, thanks for the help [02:24] i have no clue what's wrong. i don't know UEFI [02:25] no problem, ill figure it out [02:25] k [02:39] Hi. Two hours ago I unmounted an ext4 partition. I tried to remount it half an hour ago, got an error (don't remember the exact wording, but IIRC something about bad descriptors was in it). dmesg showed "group descriptors corrupted" for that partition. I ran fsck on it. It fixed tens of thousands of "Group descriptor ... checksum is invalid." errors, tens of thousands of "Free blocks count wrong for group" errors, and just as many "Inode bitmap diffe [02:39] rences" errors, followed by another bunch of "free inode count wrong" errors. After an hour of fixing, I got no more errors and remounted the partition. At first glance, it seems all my files are still there and intact. What could have caused this? Could it be that the HDD is failing? SMART shows no such indication and no errors. Should I buy a new HDD? Should I reformat? Or can I safely continue to use this partition? Thank you! [03:53] hello everyone [04:00] <_adrenaline> hello [04:07] photon: can't tell without the logs... [04:07] sounds like you should back up whatever is on the drive though [04:09] ali1234: which logs do you need? the error I got was "bad superblock" ... could it be possible that one bad superblock is causing all these thousands of checksums and counts to be invalid? [04:09] dmesg [04:10] [ 99.769472] EXT4-fs (dm-3): ext4_check_descriptors: Inode table for group 3266 not in group (block 2254439456)! [04:10] [ 99.769475] EXT4-fs (dm-3): group descriptors corrupted! [04:10] that's the two relevant lines. [04:10] nothing else? [04:10] nothing else besides netfilter log entries. [04:11] however, when running fsck I got thousands of errors. [04:12] what type of drive is it? [04:12] magnetic hard drive [04:12] 4 TB partition [04:13] connected via SATA [04:16] ali1234: Can you come up with any reasonable scenario that might explain how a bad superblock can cause 28000+ errors and when they are fixed, everything seems to be OK again? I'm trying to wrap my head around this. [04:17] there is a backup superblock [04:17] the superblock stores information about every file [04:17] so if you were to erase it you could concievably get an error for every file on the disk [04:20] ali1234: ah, so something has likely destroyed the "main" superblock (could have been a simple bit flip at a critical position within the superblock, right?), which made it impossible to mount the partition, and fsck used the backup superblock to repair the main one? [04:20] nah, bitflip wouldn't be enough [04:21] also it would tell you if it did that [04:21] the usual way the superblock goes bad is if the sector it is on has to be reallocated [04:21] but that would show up in smart [04:24] could it be that my hard drive is failing without SMART showing any errors? [04:24] not really [04:25] hmmm [04:25] could an unclean umount cause a superblock to go bad, then? [04:25] could do yeah [04:27] well, I guess I should be happy then that I got my partition back and not wonder too much about what could have caused this. [04:57] hello. Can anyone tell me how to please shutdown or remove xfce4-power-manager 1.2.0? [04:58] oh, from starting as well please. I dont see any mention of it in startup === bazhang_ is now known as bazhang [05:53] i just installed steam and apt-get update is suck at 100% [Waiting for headers] [05:54] why is it doing this? [05:58] i just installed steam and apt-get update is suck at "100% [Waiting for headers]" why is it doing this? [05:58] holy crap it wasnt stuck it was just the slowest thing i have ever seen [06:18] chris: the steam repo isnt working [06:18] disable it [07:51] test [07:51] test back [07:51] seriously? [07:51] now you're going to troll Xubuntu? [07:52] Wow, what happened, this channel went blank, did you guys notice a server problem? [07:52] yes, you showed up [07:52] all the text disappeared form the xubuntu channel [07:53] lol [07:53] why ban? [07:53] he hasn't even asked one question. wtf? [07:55] no need for bad language [07:55] Luyin, you don't know his history on other channels. this is a family oriented channel [07:55] ok just saw the discussion in the other channel. [07:55] so, anyone have problem with chromium interface being too big? [07:55] I actually kinda like him, he's so much fun :D [07:55] define too big [07:56] deshipu, define too big [07:57] ObrienDave: 4 times larger than normal, after the last update [07:57] visually? [07:57] yes [07:58] have you checked your screen DPI? [07:58] yes, it's 96 [07:59] font size? [07:59] resolution? [07:59] it's not just fonts, the whole thing is huge [07:59] and only that one app [08:00] does chromium have UI scaling? [08:00] how would I know? [08:00] check its steeings [08:00] *settings [08:03] http://paste.sheep.art.pl/18be5ac2-e494-40a3-bb31-47f7d347d0db <-- here is the screenshot, firefox and chromium side by side [08:03] nothing like that in chromium settings [08:04] also, deleting chromium settings files doesn't help [08:58] upgraded to 14.04 noticed it came with ubuntu spyware [08:58] how can i remove unity-webapps-runner [08:58] please don't call it spyware [08:58] grow up a bit if you want help [08:58] hi ! [08:58] okay sorry how can i remove that package [08:59] Psil0Cybin: why is a unity package in xubuntu [08:59] Psil0Cybin: are you using xubuntu ? [08:59] yes [08:59] how can i prevent Xubuntu from turning on the screensaver while watching a film in browser with Flashplayer ? [08:59] and i think witht his install i had unity fist then did xuubntu-desktop install [08:59] !crosspost | Psil0Cybin [08:59] Psil0Cybin: Please don't ask the same question in multiple Ubuntu channels at the same time. Many helpers are in more than one channel and it's not fair to them or the other people seeking support. [08:59] but i removed it all in 14.04 and upgrading brought it back [08:59] Psil0Cybin: so it's nothing to do with xubuntu then [08:59] Psil0Cybin: you installed ubuntu - which is why unity packages are there [09:00] Psil0Cybin, if logged in xfce, I THINK sudo apt-get purge ubuntu-desktop will remove the ubuntu packages. might need to reinstall xubuntu-desktop to make sure you've got a running system [09:00] cfhowlett: I thought that only took the metapackage [09:01] you will need to do a sudo apt-get autoremove after that to remove the rest [09:01] Psil0Cybin, or you might download and install the actual xubuntu [09:02] dang [09:02] all with a format [09:02] okay [09:02] i have plenty of work to do :( [09:02] should have not upgraded tonight [09:05] it does unless you do the other too, I did the exact same thing a week ago ... ;) [09:06] the other too? [09:06] im triing to find the package in synaps so i can try and remove it and learn from this [09:06] if im already going to reformat [09:07] i need to do plenty of backups [09:07] i thought this owuld be a nice clean upgrade lol i keep learning to expect the worst so im not going nuts [09:23] if someone can help me remove unity-webapps-runner --amazon --app-id=ubuntu-amazon-default that i would be forever grreaful cannot find a way to rid it off my machine [09:28] Psil0Cybin: remove the package unity-webapps-service [09:29] wierd question [09:29] how come i am missing ubuntu software center [09:29] has that name changed? [09:30] don't think so [09:31] http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2202338&page=1 [09:31] my issue [09:31] lol [09:33] btw thanks brainwash ! [09:33] i really appreciate that [09:33] software-center is installed but i cannot view it wierd [09:39] what is xfce network mananger [09:40] Wicd? [09:40] i need a tray icon for xfce for the wifi [09:42] can i remove the nm-applet from gnome or will it mess something up [09:42] Psil0Cybin: nm comes with a tray icon, with xubuntu it's usually in the networking-indicator [09:43] nm does not work for me [09:43] xfce4-indicator-plugin [09:43] Psil0Cybin: then you can install wicd [09:43] i already have that indicator plugin [09:44] but it does not display networks and show my vpns etc [09:44] like it did before [09:44] ur saying wicd would work? [09:46] Psil0Cybin: run "sudo service network-manager restart" and see if nm returns. I can't recommend wicd really, because it lacks some functions like mobile broadband connections [09:47] Psil0Cybin: but I'd still recommend to just back up your /home and reinstall xubuntu, that should solve most of your problems if they've come from upgrading. [09:55] okay im back i cannot get nm-applet to work [09:55] nor can i get it to display other wifi networks around me :( like that icon is just missing [09:55] in 14.04 [10:02] Psil0Cybin: could you send me a screenshot of your desktop please? [10:02] Luyin: what service should i use to upload? [10:02] Psil0Cybin: whatever you like [10:05] Luyin: [10:05] http://s30.postimg.org/w8fnshmq7/1404.png [10:05] on top i have no network icon to display other connections or the vpns or anything like i had in the gnome one [10:06] prior to upgrading in 12.04 , i had a nm-applet that would display along side other icons like the sound etc [10:06] thats all gone [10:06] now [10:06] no sound icon or mail icon anymore or nmapplet [10:06] Psil0Cybin: rightclick onto your panel → add element → add "indicator-plugin" [10:09] when i do that its all buggy it adds 30 icions of the wifi icon i want and then crashes [10:09] at first i thought it was the indicator-multiload plugin [10:09] so i remofed it [10:10] but it still continued [10:11] gksu and the command is what people suggest online but that wsound iffy [10:12] Psil0Cybin: gksu and which command? [10:12] nm-applet [10:13] Psil0Cybin: nope, that shouldn't run as root I suppose. doesn't here at least. [10:13] Psil0Cybin: my suggest is still that you reinstall. it seems there's a whole lot of problems that occured through your upgrading process, and you'd save yourself a lot of time if you just reinstall and set up your desktop again as you wish it to be. [10:14] Psil0Cybin: others might help on this more, but I'm at a loss what else to suggest now. [10:15] oksy [10:15] thanks [10:15] let me try restarting again [10:15] after another update [10:45] hello everyone [10:46] got an error after installing on top of a system that was broken by a wild rm -rf ... [10:46] its complaining about the sources list [10:47] E: Malformed line 68 in source list /etc/apt/sources.list (dist parse) [10:47] E: The list of sources could not be read. [10:47] thats the error [10:48] but, it was line 67 so i commented it out but then it just went to the next line and gave the same error [10:48] well, open that file, and fix the error at line 68? [10:48] i did that for line 67 but then it said it about 68 [10:48] hmm [10:48] its making me think that its gonna do that for everything after 67 [10:48] I would just backup all the important files from your system and do a clean install [10:49] there are sources in there that i would like to keep but im not skilled enough to go thru and manually adjust copy or fix them [10:49] lol [10:49] that would be the smart thing yo do [10:49] *to do [10:49] guess im trying to go against the grain here [10:50] guess im gonna have to wipe it all then [10:50] thx for the help [10:50] I'm going to guess that its trying to download something to some directory that doesn't exist [10:51] that would make sense since the original system suffered a wile rm -rf [10:51] i was able to cancle it out just a second after it was activated [10:53] imagine that, [10:54] you may have stuff missing in there that you discover in two years from now [10:54]