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haviresWhy does this channel keep coming up in my autojoins when I log into irssi?01:17
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meIsee the web forum is still down - is this permanent03:22
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Guest76567what are the main advantages of kubuntu over ubuntu03:24
Guest76567are there any disdvantages03:24
Guest76567why is there a folder called OS. It appears to be my hard disk - not the linux live cd that i am using03:26
Guest76567I am testing out dragon player. I am told I need extra plugins. I asked for a search but nothing happened. I am running kubuntui form a live dvd03:29
donixhello04:35
donixim having truoble setting up cisco e2500 n600 wifi router04:36
donixi can get 192.168.1.1 to load but it asks me to download windows soiftware04:36
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donixim having truoble setting up cisco e2500 n600 wifi router05:19
donixi can get 192.168.1.1 to load but it asks me to download windows soiftware05:19
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rawihi folks, using kubuntu 14.04 I just see now a huge list of possible updates but libnepomuk4 and libnepomukquery4a are brocken07:20
rawiam I the only one with this issue?07:21
ikoniarawi: I suspect you have a PPA/3rd party repo causing the conflict07:21
ikoniathat is the norm for breakages from the main/core repo07:21
rawiikonia: thanks, sure I have also the kubuntu PPAs and backports etc07:22
ikoniaso you'll need to work through where the breakages come from07:24
rawihow could I ask apt-get, from where a package is comming to update?07:25
ikoniaapt-cache policy shows where things come from07:26
rawiikonia: thanks again, I'll try07:26
rawiikonia: please, what do you understand from this: http://paste.kde.org/pibmm2zsl07:33
ikoniarawi: ok, so straight away a conflict07:38
ikoniappa V stable07:38
ikoniaInstalled: 4:4.13.3-0ubuntu0.1~ubuntu14.04.1~ppa207:39
ikonia4.  Candidate: 4:4.13.3-0ubuntu0.107:39
rawiikonia: well, what should I do with my conflict? No update now and waiting until it will be cleared by the devs?07:43
ikoniarawi: up to you07:48
ikoniarawi: wait to see if later packages come out in the PPA to update beyond it, or manually resolve the conflict07:48
rawiikonia: how would I do it manually?07:49
ikoniaremove packages that conflict and use a specific set07:49
rawiI tryed: aptitude -s purge libnepomuk4 and it would purge all kde :(07:52
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lordievaderrawi: I think you want to use ppa purge, it downgrades rather than remove/purge.08:01
rawilordievader: you mean I would downgrade all kde I have now?08:02
lordievaderI suppose that is what ikonia is pointing towards.08:03
rawithis is a to big risky operation for me, I think I should wait till time will clear the problem08:05
pfoorawi: ikonia you need to wait until libnepomuk4* is recompiled against the new version of kdelib (4.13.97-0ubuntu1~ubuntu14.04~ppa2)08:31
pfooI've already tried to contact sgclark who did upload this new kde4libs package without recompiling libnepomuk, no news08:34
rawipfoo: thank you. Waiting (with a working system) is OK :)08:34
pfoocc Riddell (libnepomuk4 libnepomukquery4a libnepomukutils4 are broken in kubuntu-backports since kde4libs 4.13.97-0ubuntu1~ubuntu14.04~ppa2)08:37
Riddellhi pfoo, rawi: nepomuk is dead, what's wanting it?08:40
rawiRiddell: i don't know how to put it, but my whole kde wants it08:45
pfooMh, don't know if there is a way to notify (when upgrading) users that a package is removed because it has been superseded by a new one with a new name08:49
Riddellrawi: pastebin the output of   sudo apt full-upgrade08:55
rawiRiddell: full-upgrade: http://pastebin.com/jmbkP04v08:57
SamwiseGamgeeis there another website to post images besides imagebin, something similar to imagebin, but free from malware?08:58
rawiRiddell: and hier http://pastebin.com/qBF00Gny a hilarious atempt to remove all nepomuk. It is not dead at all09:02
SamwiseGamgeeOh, most of you guys are using Imgur now?09:03
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Riddellrawi: we don't support aptitude, use apt as I said09:33
Riddellrawi: but the actions aptitude asks for are fine to do09:33
RiddellSamwiseGamgee: use plasma paste widget to paste images09:33
SamwiseGamgeeit looks easier than imgur09:34
SamwiseGamgeehttp://imgur.com/a/u1NBT09:37
SamwiseGamgeeDoes this work?09:37
ChrisRgood morning09:38
SamwiseGamgeegood morning ChrisR09:38
rawiRiddell: apt full-upgrade looks less threatening http://pastebin.com/8eCgG1Ru09:38
ChrisRi have kubuntu backports activated, but for some reason it seems it has updated to versions from backports-beta. my current kde version is 4.13.97 - can anybody tell me if that is possible?09:39
Riddellrawi: looks fine to me09:39
RiddellChrisR: yes I made a mistake and added the RC to backports instead of beta, sorry about that09:40
RiddellChrisR: final version will be out in the next few days09:40
ChrisRRiddell: ok, just wanted to know whether i made a config error. but thanks for fixing the dependency problems so quickly. i can use digikam again :-)09:43
rawiRiddell: thank you. I'll give it a go now and full-upgrade with apt09:49
rawiRiddell: apt full-upgrade did the trick better than aptitude. I'm still here and KDE also. Thank you!10:14
valorierawi: probably why we no longer use aptitude10:16
rawi<valorie: aptitude... old habit, I learned now something new10:20
valorieand now sometimes you can use `apt` rather than `apt-get`10:22
valorieI enjoy change, and learning new things10:22
rawiapt or apt-get, I'll nedd to relearn10:24
pfoovalorie: rawi, imho, aptitude had a safer behaviour in this case (removing a package because of depency can be tricky sometime)10:25
valorieyes, sometimes just waiting is a better idea10:26
yossarianukcan anyone suggest a good iptables GUI ?10:31
yossarianukI used to use fwbuilder but that is now a dead project10:31
yossarianukhttp://www.vuurmuur.org/trac/ is cool - but not also not developed in ages.10:32
rawiand to become really happy today: has anyone a remedy for my "Run Command"? It's looking like this: http://wstaw.org/m/2014/08/13/plasma-windowedsj5030.png10:42
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BluesKajHiyas all11:31
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Hrmx1Hello I installed the latest updates yesterday then i turned my computer off. Now when I'm trying to boot I come to the desktop and everything is fine but  the resolution is totally unuseable.13:36
Hrmx1I own a Gtx750ti so I had to install the nvidia driver(It worked flawless before)13:37
Hrmx1When I start the Nvidia Application to manage the settings it tells me driver is not loaded even if the xorg.conf13:37
Hrmx1is edited properly13:37
soeeHrmx1: Kubunut 14.04 ?13:44
Hrmx1Yes, I figured out that XOrg log says the nvidia kernel module is unable to load13:45
Hrmx1So I guess there was a kernel update??13:45
soeemaybe try to reinstall drivers >13:45
soeeyes there was kernel update i think13:45
Hrmx1Ok i think thats the problem13:45
Hrmx1idk is it just nvidia or is every driver built against the kernel13:46
Hrmx1and is not compatible for other versions13:46
asrockhello13:52
Hrmx1_Ok reinstalling helped13:52
asrockanyone here knows how to install QQ International Chat?13:53
asrockanyone here knows how to install QQ International Chat?13:56
soeeHrmx1_: good to hear :)13:57
soeeasrock: what is QQ internatioal Chat ?13:57
soeeahh13:58
soeefrom what i see ther are no source foles or packages for linux13:58
asrockit is like a viber/Whatsap that you can chat with other13:58
asrocksoee thanks maybe none, I tried using wine but no luck13:59
soeemaybe some other app support it like pigdin or ktp14:00
valoriektp rocks!14:00
* valorie just started using it14:00
asrockI'll try to integrate it to that apps14:00
valorieesp. on a local network with the internet connectivity is dodgy14:00
soeehiho valorie14:01
valoriegreets14:02
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jubo2Hiya and thanks for developing the nice WM and distro14:31
jubo2I run 'sudo apt update' and 'sudo apt upgrade'14:32
jubo2now 'lsb_release -a' says Ubuntu 14.04.1 am I good or should I run 'sudo do-release-upgrade' ?14:33
valoriedo you want released, or testing the alpha?14:34
jubo2I want the safe and reliable14:35
valoriethen you are done for now14:35
jubo2Good. Thank you valorie14:35
valorieand thanks for the nice words about our software14:35
valorieof course the WM is supplied by KDE, not "us" -- although most of us are also active in KDE14:36
willeyeHi All14:50
BluesKajhi willeye14:53
boonkerz-hello14:55
boonkerz-i search an screenshot tool which uploads to owncloud or ftp server14:55
turgay[18:13] <turgay>  what is the problem ?15:16
turgay[18:13] <turgay> http://s22.postimg.org/5ksapuich/ekran_g_r_nt_s_1.png15:16
turgay[18:13] <turgay> kubuntu 14.04   Sürüm 36.0.1985.125 Ubuntu 14.04 (283153)  chromium15:16
valoriepfff15:25
valorie!tr15:25
ubottuTurk ubuntu kullanıcıları, Türkçe yardım ya da geyik için /join #ubuntu-tr hizmetinizde.15:25
valorieturgay: ^^^15:26
turgayvalorie: thank you very much for your support15:33
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CshubhamraoHi, someone there?16:12
valorieCshubhamrao: yes, lots of us16:16
valoriewhy do you ask?16:16
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phoenixzAnybody here who knows what news will be in Kubuntu 14.10? Specifically looking for one of weyland, plasma5, kde-connect, and will kubuntu use upstart or systemd?18:33
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valoriephoenixz: those are available now, but will not be released as a standard part of 14.1018:47
phoenixzvalorie: None of them? I was looking forward to wayland...18:48
valoriekdeconnect i've been using for ~1 year already18:48
valoriephoenixz: wayland is not yet usable for kwin18:48
phoenixzkde-connect is already there, but I was just wondering if it woudl be expanded a bit beyond amarok.. I love the idea, andactually was toying around with scripting stuff so that I could control my laptop from my android phone18:48
valoriekf5 and plasma5 are released and available to you18:48
phoenixzvalorie: kf5?18:49
valoriephoenixz: please contact the authors and work with them!18:49
phoenixzAnd wayland still isn't ready? :( really was looking forward there..18:49
valoriekde frameworks18:49
valoriewell, one can't release non-working software18:49
phoenixzvalorie: Might actually do that, if it were just to give some ideas I have...18:49
valoriewe're all looking forward to wayland18:49
phoenixzvalorie: Lol, no, I get that.. Its just that I've been reading on wayland for.. years now, I think? I really thought / hoped it would have been ready18:50
phoenixzThere is a large list of issues I have with X :D18:50
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valorieyes18:50
valorieread kub.org and get the new stuff any way you like18:50
phoenixzvalorie: Perhaps there is an experimenta / functions reasonably okay to try package of wayland alraedy?18:50
valorieI have neon on this computer18:50
phoenixzneon? Isnt that the package manager?18:50
valorieand 14.10 and all the new stuff on another older laptop18:50
phoenixzah no, I'm confusing with Muon18:51
valorieno18:51
valorieright18:51
valorieproject neon gives you the fresh-from-git stuff from KDE18:51
valoriemore in the /topic of #project-neon18:51
phoenixzAnd there (in neon) I could find stuff like wayland-to-try?18:52
phoenixzvalorie: Also, will Kubuntu go upstart or systemd way?18:52
valorieno, noone has wayland yet18:52
valoriethe future is systemd, since that is what debian and ubuntu chose18:52
phoenixzI understand that ubuntu will go systemd, and kubuntu upstart... also understand that systemd is kinda an octopus kraken kind of thing that will mess with everything..18:52
phoenixzSo no more upstart18:53
valoriehttps://blogs.kde.org/2014/07/15/plasma-5-here-all-ready-eat-your-babies18:53
valorieit was very carefully evaluated18:53
valoriethis decision was not taken lightly by anyone18:54
valoriethere are always pros and cons to every decision18:54
RaSTuSHi there, been having a hassle getting my desktop effects working since upgrading from 12.04 to 14.04, xdriinfo gives: libGL is too old.  I'm using nvidia_331 and I can paste the list of mesa/gl packages or the output of glxinfo if needed.19:16
RaSTuSXorg.0.log too of course.19:26
RaSTuSanyone ?19:46
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Naphatuli left my computer locked when i came back it was back at the log in screen and logging in leads to a new sessions, is there a way to get back to the locked session?21:21
Naphatulusers says i'm currently logged in 3 times21:25
aguitelsynaptic touchpad is nto working in my laptop asus X550LA ,any tips ?21:28
seattlegauchoNaphatul, try pressing Ctrl-Alt-F7 for the first session, F8 for the 2nd, F9 for the 3rd, etc ... then you can logout from the sessions you don't need21:46
Naphatulseattlegaucho: i already tried that everythine besides 7 is empty21:46
seattlegauchoyou can also try switching session through the menu (not in front of my kubuntu desktop right now) or switch sessions from the screen saver21:47
seattlegauchoif you really have more than 1 session and not some hang process, you should be able to switch and logout21:48
seattlegauchoif everything fails, 'kill' works as long as you make sure you're not killing your current session21:52

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