=== m_conley_away is now known as m_conley === m_conley is now known as m_conley_away [05:31] morning [05:31] happyaron: hey, I didn't get your MIR bug yet, please, ping me once you are ready [06:13] Hi. Where reported, the fact that certified equipment is not working on a newer version of kenel? [06:14] aa [06:14] oops [06:14] It is part of a notebook-G1 455 Hp [06:15] rt3290 wifi + bluetooth combo, where part of the wifi works and some Bluetooth adapters do not. [06:16] Ubuntu 14.04 kernel 3.13.0-33-generic [06:17] Official drivers for linux on the HP website are only a SLED-11 and is kernel version 2 in front. [07:51] good morning desktopers [07:51] bregma, hey, do you know about password login not working on unity8-desktop-mir? do you know if there is a workaround? [07:52] hey seb128! [07:53] lut didrocks ;-) [07:53] morning [07:53] hey willcooke [07:53] Greetings everyone. [07:53] seb128, password login is re: Mark's problem, right? [07:53] morning BigWhale [07:54] willcooke, yes, but I'm seeing it since they landed "proper" pam support [07:54] ah, kk [07:54] hey willcooke [07:54] hey BigWhale [07:54] seb128, thanks for for looking in to it already [07:54] hello didrocks, seb128 :) [07:54] willcooke, I had a workaround to bypass the lock, but the bug I was exploiting got resolved in recent updates [07:54] hahah! [07:55] willcooke, yw, it's blocking me as well anyway, can't log in since yesterday [07:55] seb128, sounds like the qt5-defaults thing is on it's way to being fixed too [07:55] Will I get flogged for asking when will Mir land in Ubuntu and will be turned on by default? :) [07:55] willcooke, is it? I'm reading Mirv's reply for a 3rd time, and I'm not sure to see any decision/way forward picked there [07:55] willcooke, or I'm not awake yet [07:55] BigWhale, :) at some point between now and 16.04. Most likely to be ready in time for 16.04 [07:56] seems like "we need our wrapper, but nobody is working on it" [07:56] seb128: yeah, seems like the email is "it's the way it is" without any guidance on how we move forward [07:57] willcooke, thanks. :) Now I'll have to go bug Mir people about screen capturing stuff. [07:57] BigWhale, :) go for it! I think I read something about VNC (or similar) working, or being planned to work, so it must be possible [07:58] seb128, didrocks, ahh I read the email from Mirv "done" to mean it was fixed. I didn't read it properly :/ [07:58] willcooke, replied to that [07:58] seb128, ha - yes, what you said in your email [07:58] :)P [07:59] ok, got to take the boy to child care - bbiab [07:59] * didrocks didn't get seb128's answer yet [08:01] didrocks: https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1356222 [08:01] Ubuntu bug 1356222 in librime (Ubuntu) "[MIR] fcitx and related packages" [Undecided,New] [08:01] thanks happyaron, will look at that quickly [08:01] great [08:01] didrocks, I didn't reply on the list, I replied to a private "can you look at that" from Pat to Mirv on which one I was Cced [08:02] ah ok [08:02] waow, that's a very long Mir [08:02] MIR* [08:02] I'm pondering replying on the list, but I want the reply to be a bit more diplomatic there [08:02] happyaron: please ensure that all packages have a desktop team member subscribed to bug reports [08:03] happyaron, do you have a team for that? if not, I can subscribe desktop-bugs [08:03] hellooooooooooooooOOOOOOOOOOOOOOoooooooooooooooo [08:03] oh, a Laney! [08:03] hey Laney, wb! [08:03] did you recover from all the China fun? ;-) [08:03] I think I forgot what normal life is like [08:03] morning Laney! [08:03] seb128: please do with desktop-bugs [08:03] does it feel good or boring? ;-) [08:04] but yes, climbing and exploring town and going to the pub [08:04] it's nice ;-) [08:04] hey didrocks [08:04] how are you guys? [08:04] * seb128 played tennis yesterday [08:04] good! [08:05] hmm, pilot iain.lane today [08:05] * Laney moves to this afternoon [08:06] I'm great as well. Happy to be able to exercise again :) [08:06] Laney: some guys are waiting for the seed changes, :) [08:06] they should get some patience! [08:06] haha [08:06] happyaron: you want to ping slangasek? [08:07] didrocks is addict to his exercice it seems ;-) [08:07] Laney: better check ur mailbox first and see what they want [08:07] happyaron: nothing, just asking what is up [08:07] happyaron: I'd just ask slangasek if he and xnox finished their review, maybe you want to do that? [08:07] seb128: I'm and I should! did you see this MIR? :p [08:08] I would appreciate if some code sanity check could be perform by happyaron as well [08:08] so that I'm not alone to review all of them [08:08] didrocks, being addict is never such a good thing, but yeah some exercice is nice ;-) [08:08] didrocks, not yet, I'm about to open it to subscribe desktop-bugs to the components though [08:08] Laney: I'm ok if you want [08:08] didrocks: what kind of check? [08:08] okay, please do [08:09] happyaron: read the code, see if there is any potential crasher and flag any exec/system call to see if anything can be racy or dangerous [08:11] didrocks: that's already done for fcitx itself and fcitx-qimpanel, others are not all covered I think [08:11] happyaron: so yeah, we need to have that for every source package of this MIR [08:12] didrocks: ok, will get back to you tomorrow [08:12] can't finish that quickly today.. [08:12] happyaron: I'll do some as well, but better to double check [08:12] yeah ;) [08:13] I guess this MIR will take me my last couple of days before holidays anyway [08:14] :) [08:18] jdstrand, hey, thanks for the evince bugfix-apparmor upload, do you plan to SRU that to trusty as well? (I guess some of those issues happen in the LTS) [08:19] why is /run/user/1000/ specified explicitly? [08:20] it's a busy hive of activity in here today :) [08:21] willcooke, that's quite common for this channel, when people are not on holidays ;-) [08:21] :D [08:21] ffs [08:22] Unpacking libmircommon-dev:amd64 (0.6.0+14.10.20140811-0ubuntu1) ... [08:22] dpkg: error processing archive /var/cache/apt/archives/libmircommon-dev_0.6.0+14.10.20140811-0ubuntu1_amd64.deb (--unpack): trying to overwrite '/usr/include/mircommon/mir/graphics/native_buffer.h', which is also in package mircommon-dev:amd64 0.5.1+14.10.20140728-0ubuntu1 /var/cache/apt/archives/libmircommon-dev_0.6.0+14.10.20140811-0ubuntu1_amd64.deb [08:22] erk [08:22] Laney, the "1000" being coded seems like an overlook/bug, maybe reopen the bug/open a new one? [08:23] Laney, you might want to mention the mir upgrade issue on #ubuntu-ci-eng [08:23] have commented [08:24] sec, bet there will be a bug report [08:24] thanks [08:24] apparently not! [08:24] I bet you a thousand euros! :p [08:24] NO BET [08:24] :-( [08:28] Laney, can you retry the u-s-s autopkgtests? [08:28] seb128: anyone can [08:28] you need to log into d-jenkins and then press build on the page [08:28] let me try on the private jenkins [08:28] I was on the public one, but I don't know my login/password [08:29] yeah you need to be on that one sadly [08:29] you mean ussoa, right? [08:29] I don't think uss itself has adt tests [08:29] yes [08:30] http://d-jenkins.ubuntu-ci:8080/view/Utopic/view/AutoPkgTest/job/utopic-adt-ubuntu-system-settings-online-accounts/ → build now [08:30] yeah, I just started one [08:31] but it failed 3 times on i386 [08:31] I wonder if there is a real issue there [08:31] probably [08:32] I hate arch specific issues [08:34] those logs have dbus timeouts trying to get datas from the server [08:39] shrug, of course it fails [08:58] there were llvm changes afaics [08:58] did you try running the test locally? [09:02] trying to [09:02] I wish those tools were easier to use [09:03] I need to build a vm to be able to run those? [09:03] http://packaging.ubuntu.com/html/auto-pkg-test.html#executing-the-test [09:04] Laney, yeah, I was on this page, running adt-buildvm-ubuntu-cloud which takes ages [09:05] it downloads a cloud image which is like 250M [09:05] I guess I'm going to do something else and come back to that later [09:05] I've several machines dist-upgrading and stuff, my dsl is not liking it [09:05] * seb128 tries to run the tests without the vm [09:12] yeah this TOTALLY happens locally too [09:14] bah [09:14] FileNotFoundError: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'qemu-system-i686' [09:14] when doing "adt-run ubuntu-system-settings-online-accounts --- qemu adt-utopic-i386-cloud.img" [09:15] * seb128 symlinks i386->i686 [09:20] yeah downgrading mesa fixes it [09:20] also moves to llvm 3.4 [09:41] Laney, bah :-/ [09:41] Laney, should we override the test then to let settings migrate? there is no point blocking u-s-s over a llvm bug [09:41] is anybody going to look at it? [09:42] to what? llvm? [09:42] yes [09:42] * seb128 looks at who did the update [09:43] doko? [09:43] I mean sure we can override stuff but having things become and then stay broken is pretty poor [09:43] right [09:43] but blocking u-s-s to be updated on the touch image doesn't help us to get llvm fixed [09:44] it's quite orthogonal [09:44] in some ways it does [09:44] by creating frustration on more people [09:44] because people want it to move forward therefore have an incentive to fix the other thing [09:44] which leads to them complain more ? [09:44] I think it creates more frustration and angry people as a side effect [09:44] so if I force-skiptest now then nobody is going to look at llvm, I would bet a thousand euros on that [09:44] right [09:45] and I bet you money that if we don't skip it, people are going to complain and get annoyed [09:45] but none is going to look at llvm [09:45] because the people working on settings ahve no clue about that stack [09:45] and we are going to end up overriding the test [09:45] with just more frustration build up meanwhile [09:45] you're saying that it will never get fixed [09:45] the actual first thing to do is to ask doko [09:46] yeah, I'm typing on -devel :p [09:47] Laney, I'm not saying it's not getting fixed, but I doubt taking touch people hostage is going to help fixing it [09:48] What I am saying is [09:49] that if we find out something is broken [09:49] then it is way better to have the problem fixed than to ignore the breakage [09:49] sure [09:49] and I agree with that [09:49] so we ask the person who is most likely to be able to fix it [09:49] and then depending on what they say we will take one action or another [09:49] I agree with all of that [09:50] it's just that u-s-s being blocked doesn't seem to help with any of those actions [09:50] I've fixed bugs many times because things were blocked in proposed [09:51] it's just a fact that it often turns up things which weren't the fault of the upload [09:51] it feels wrong that we need such incensitives to fix bugs [09:51] we should fix bugs because things are buggy [09:51] not because they are blocking other things [09:51] like it happens that u-s-s is blocked now [09:51] this is a way of making prioritisation happen [09:52] but that bug would be worth fixing evne if that was not the case [09:52] fair enough [09:52] fo [09:52] erm [09:52] it just creates frustration and stress on the way [09:52] which I don't like [09:52] does this break all autopilot tests under qemu? [09:52] like are we just going to have to skip them all? [09:52] on i386 [09:52] dunno [09:52] let me look at some other components [09:53] anyway, I probably will skip it, just want to get doko's attention first at least [09:53] looking at https://jenkins.qa.ubuntu.com/view/Utopic/view/AutoPkgTest/ it seems not [09:54] or maybe not "not" [09:54] yeah I don't think we have so many running AP [10:13] ok that looks good ;-) [10:15] * Laney skips it [10:15] thanks [10:21] hi all I want to start contributing to the desktop team and any help would be appreciated in order to get me started with fixing small bugs [10:23] hey mishravikas - that's great! [10:23] willcooke: hey! [10:23] can you tell us a bit about your expertise, so we know where your skills are? [10:24] willcooke: am not a very experienced programmer but I am pretty confident in C/C++ and Python, am also a GSoC 2014 student [10:24] cool [10:25] willcooke:are there any such prerequisites? [10:25] nah - just good to get a feeling for what sort of things you're interested in [10:26] willcooke: ok :) the fact is that right now I haven't done much of development so dont really have an interest but this is for sure that I want tocontribute to ubuntu [10:27] willcooke: by interest I meant specific interest [10:27] so seb128 and didrocks (amongst many others) will be able to point us in the right direction. Guys, are the paper cuts bugs still needing some attention? [10:28] mishravikas, do you have a Launchpad account already? [10:28] willcooke: yeah I created It just now [10:28] cool [10:28] https://launchpad.net/~canonical-desktop-team/+assignedbugs [10:28] rather, https://bugs.launchpad.net/~canonical-desktop-team [10:29] bah - sorry, thats still the wrong link [10:29] one sec.. [10:30] right, finally.... [10:30] mishravikas, https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-desktop [10:30] thats our home [10:31] willcooke: ok, so how do I join this team? [10:31] I think we have to add you, but there are some hoops to jump through first :) [10:32] willcooke: ok sure and what are those? [10:32] mishravikas, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DesktopTeam/Developers [10:32] Hey Laney, seb128 [10:33] any update on gnome-desktop? [10:33] mishravikas, have a read of this too: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DesktopTeam [10:33] mishravikas: do you have a favourite package? [10:34] it might be a nice idea to browse its bugs list in Launchpad or on bugzilla.gnome.org and see if a bug seems fixable to you [10:34] Laney: no, not yet [10:34] darkxst: robert put some branches up but I haven't reviewed them yet [10:34] darkxst: let me fwd you the email, I'd appreciate you looking if you have some time [10:36] there [10:36] Laney: I'm open to working on any package right now as I dont have any such preferences since I want to start right now so it would be better if you guys can point me out to some good first bugs [10:36] willcooke: quite a lot to be done to become a member of the team :p [10:37] that team gives you upload access to part of Ubuntu so it has a high barrier [10:37] Laney: yeah but am up for the challenge :) [10:38] Laney: are there any packages in python since am more comfortable in Python? [10:39] Laney, looking [10:41] odd choice naming everying gsd_ [10:42] mishravikas: hmm, most stuff is C/Vala, two python ones that I can think of are usb-creator and ubiquity (which is the installer) [10:45] Laney: are there and small bugs in usb-creator and ubiquity which I can look on? and is there a list somewhere explaining about all the packages? [10:50] mishravikas: each package has a bug list but I don't have an idea of which ones are easy in my head, sorry [10:50] e.g. usb-creator is https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/usb-creator [10:50] ubiquity: https://launchpad.net/ubiquity [10:50] and there's no list of every package but each one has a description which you can see in the software centre or if you type "apt show " in your terminal === alan_g is now known as alan_g|lunch [11:01] mishravikas, while we think about something which would be good for you to work on I'd suggest that you come to the next Desktop meeting, which happens on Tuesdays at 1530 UTC [11:01] then we'll have most of the team in the same place at the same time, and we can really thrash out the details [11:02] Laney, u-s-d and u-c-c look to just be cut+paste and renames so should be fine [11:02] no idea about unity-greeter [11:03] could you comment on the MPs? [11:04] Laney, sure [11:04] ty [11:04] probably look at that tomorrow [11:06] Laney, ok thanks, FF is so close and we still need upower as well, some things never change I guess .... [11:07] how's upower going? [11:07] Laney, I think its really only the touch and other canonical bits that need work [11:08] I have patchsets that should apply to u-s-d/u-c-c [11:09] well I'm sure people will take patches for those if they are provided [11:09] I'm going to do ubuntu-system-settings this week probably but that should be a small one [11:09] hopefully [11:09] though I suspect backporting power plugin (and reverting the few gnome-desktop changes) might be nicer [11:10] Laney, things like powerd and power-indicator still need porting [11:11] I don't have a way to make people do this work, sorry [11:12] willcooke: ok I'll come for it, same channel right? [11:12] mishravikas, yeah [11:43] willcooke: back from running! [11:43] willcooke: FYI (seeing that mishravikas isn't around anymore), there is as well this page: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ContributeToUbuntu [11:43] hey didrocks, any update on tracker MIR? [11:44] darkxst: just back from Guadec + China, i'm on another big MIR, but I'll get to it before tomorrow [11:44] hey ;) [11:44] darkxst: all was great, I just need to check why I pinged you about this .symbols files [11:44] the shlibs not matching library name, I'm sure I didn't dream :) [11:46] didrocks, I am pretty sure the shlibs is correct [11:47] darkxst: let me retry a quick build while we are talking about it [11:47] the first few are private shared libraries only used by tracker [11:47] /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/tracker-1.0/libtracker-common.so.0.0.0 [11:47] /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/tracker-1.0/libtracker-extract.so.0.0.0 [11:47] /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/tracker-1.0/libtracker-data.so.0.0.0 [11:49] yeah, I was referring to the public ones, of course [11:49] < build in progress > [11:49] btw, thanks for the RPATH fix :) [11:50] seb128: re evince> hey, I could, but getting all the bug paperwork, etc in order will take a while and I wouldn't be able to get to it any time super soon [11:52] didrocks, test counters are also fixed now in upstream 1.1 branch, will look at backporting those next time I do an upload [11:52] oh, excellent news! :) [11:52] ok, build finished, let's redo a sanitization check === MacSlow is now known as MacSlow|lunch [12:04] jdstrand, k, let me know if you need help with the paperwork, I might be able to do that [12:04] jdstrand, btw did you see Laney's comment on one of the bugs? [12:04] jdstrand, you coded the 1000 uid in one of the profile changes [12:04] I did! [12:04] yikes [12:04] * jdstrand reviews the debdiff [12:05] meh [12:05] * jdstrand fixes [12:05] thanks [12:06] 1000 is dead anyway 32011 is the future ! [12:06] :) [12:08] darkxst: ok, all looks good, I +1 on it. Just ping me once it's seeded or something in main depends o nit [12:08] on* [12:08] I'll then promote it to main [12:10] seb128: so, if you wanted to do the paperwork, I'd be happy to do the upload, but if you are ok with waiting, I can get to it after tending to various rtm tings [12:10] things* [12:11] jdstrand, k, no hurry I guess. I'm keeping it on my "things to do when tired/not really able to focus" list ;-) [12:15] yes, it is on a similar list for me [12:16] didrocks, thanks! [12:16] yw! [12:28] happyaron: can you recheck all your dependencies? You missed at least presage which is a build-dep [12:58] happyaron: do you mind as well rechecking debian/copyright? I find quite a lot of things to fix [12:59] in the future, when you open a MIR, you are supposed to check this :) [13:08] kenvandine: yo, I noticed that qtdeclarative5-ubuntu-content0.1 is still around in NBS because of camera-app and ubuntu-sdk-libs - any chance we could move those off it? [13:09] kenvandine: the Breaks from 1 to 0.1 torpedos the desktop-next image build. :) [13:09] i'll fix those too :) [13:09] it's been failing for a few days because of that [13:09] cheers! [13:11] mterry, hey, sorry for putting you on the hook for that unlock issue :-/ [13:11] mterry, let me know if I can provide any useful debug info for it [13:11] mterry, basically I enter my password and the lockscreen "hangs", e.g it doesn't unlock/give feedback and you can't interact with it anymore [13:12] seb128, well... that makes some sense. I think we disable the UI while waiting for an answer from PAM [13:13] seb128, so I guess I wonder why we wouldn't hear back from PAM [13:13] mterry, were would be pam errors if there were any? unity8.log? === alan_g|lunch is now known as alan_g [13:13] seb128, probably /var/log/auth.log, but might not be super verbose without 'audit' and/or 'debug' flags to pam_unix [13:14] let me try [13:19] mterry, no pam entry, it's like it was not trying to unlock it [13:20] seb128, hrm [13:20] seb128, we're probably doing something very dumb :) [13:23] kenvandine, hey [13:23] kenvandine, did you let some of the u-s-s approved mps out of the landing on purpose yesterday? [13:24] kenvandine, I wonder why my "use ubuntushape instead if rectangle icon" 1 liner was left out ;-) [13:24] i missed it [13:24] i added it to the spreadsheet last night [13:24] but was waiting for the previous landing to migrate [13:25] kenvandine, that was blocked due to autopkgtest/llvm issues, we forced it in while those are being worked on [13:25] cool, thx [13:25] y [13:25] yw [13:25] i see someone created the silo, cool [13:26] nice [13:44] kenvandine, hum, using that applicationId doesn't work well [13:44] it gives me a "wants to access your Ubuntu One account" page, which I guess should have a name [13:44] is someone working on the uss test failures? [13:44] with an allow/don't allow button set, allow doing nothing [13:44] Laney, which ones? [13:44] https://jenkins.qa.ubuntu.com/job/autopilot-testrunner-otto-utopic/2199/ [13:44] Laney, the llvm ones? [13:44] no [13:44] cellular [13:44] shrug [13:44] when did that start? [13:45] another ofono landing? [13:45] they were passing yesterday... [13:45] no ofono on -changes [13:45] that CI happened just now [13:45] one time off issue? [13:45] File "/usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/autopilot/introspection/dbus.py", line 243, in select_single [13:45] raise ValueError("More than one item was returned for query") [13:46] could be an actual error in this branch [13:48] Laney, can you ping jgdx about it maybe? [13:53] sounds like a real problem, was it from his branch? [13:54] satoris [13:54] I commented on the mp [13:54] thanks [14:02] ah, crazy mvo branches [14:04] bzr bd -S → running the testsuite for some reason [14:04] :-) === Ursinha is now known as Ursinha-afk [14:09] and yet it doesn't run during the actual build [14:09] hahaha [14:20] hi qengho :) [14:20] have you seen there's a new chromium release? [14:20] * chrisccoulson hides [14:22] chrisccoulson, hey, how are you? ;-) [14:22] seb128, yeah, not too bad thanks. and you? [14:22] chrisccoulson, I'm good, thanks [14:23] * ricotz thinks it is better than the state of firefox in utopic :\ === Ursinha-afk is now known as Ursinha [14:26] ricotz, not quite, chromium fails to load any page where firefox works mostly fine on utopic [14:27] That's what happens when we switch toolchain, I guess (the browsers are the bits of software that finds the compiler bugs) [14:28] seb128, i see, i am not using chromium ;), i wanted to refer to the outdated 31 version and the imo premature upload of 32b1 without keeping it updated ;) [14:29] * darkxst can live with a broken browser, but mediascanner2 io deadlocking my system not so good, no idea how that even got installed here though [14:29] upstream's build is fine - it doesn't have issues like bug 1322784 and bug 1348333. it's only ours that is crap [14:29] bug 1322784 in Mozilla Firefox "Firefox crashes in flag_qsort during spellchecker initialization on x86 due to gcc bug" [Critical,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1322784 [14:29] bug 1348333 in firefox (Ubuntu) "Firefox 32 fails to build on Trusty x86 only" [Critical,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1348333 [14:29] ricotz, firefox needs a maintainer ;) [14:32] chrisccoulson, ok, but this is not related to the problem afaics since trusty has a proper build and i assume it wouldn't be more than no-change rebuild on utopic [14:34] chrisccoulson, packaging betas for the ppa is absolutely fine, but uploading them to the archive while not having the time to keep it updated is not useful [14:35] hey, in trusty, is there a way to completely disable user switching / multiple X sessions? === Ursinha is now known as Ursinha-afk === Ursinha-afk is now known as Ursinha [14:38] or at least prevent automatic switching to greeter while the screen is locked [14:44] hum [14:44] mterry, it seems to somewhat try to do something, because if I enter a wrong password a get an auth error in the log [14:44] seb128, that's promising... [14:57] seb128, so chromium 36.0.1985.125-0ubuntu2 is broken? seems to work here [14:57] ricotz, on i386 at leaast [14:57] i see, amd64 here === m_conley_away is now known as m_conley [15:13] Laney, i don't think i can fixed the sdk-libs meta package until unity-webapps-qml makes it to the release pocket [15:13] Laney, it's in silo 6 now [15:14] i'll do the meta package as soon as that's done [15:14] kenvandine: that's just a suggests change? [15:15] it's a depends i think [15:15] in the sdk-libs meta [15:15] not the touch meta [15:16] but unity-webapps-qml depends on the old package name, and it's in the libs meta [15:16] I'm looking at https://launchpadlibrarian.net/182185413/unity-webapps-qml_0.1%2B14.10.20140731-0ubuntu1_0.1%2B14.10.20140813-0ubuntu1.diff.gz [15:16] oh... i guess you're right [15:17]