[07:09] <karni> Saviq: thanks for the heads up, Chris mentioned it, I'm glad you're on it :) (caching in Dash app)
[08:10] <Cimi> Saviq, qmltestrunner::DashContent::test_searchHint fails for me
[08:10] <Saviq> Cimi, shit happens ;P
[08:10] <Cimi> hah
[08:10] <Saviq> Cimi, but yeah, I saw it failing on jenkins too
[08:11] <Cimi> Saviq, I fixed the other issue with my tests
[08:11] <Cimi> Saviq, but there are still few unrelated failing
[09:03] <mzanetti> Saviq: are those known to fail currently? https://jenkins.qa.ubuntu.com/job/unity-phablet-qmluitests-utopic/835/#showFailuresLink
[09:03] <mzanetti> ah ok... its even more of them...
[09:04] <mzanetti> probably what you said in yesterdays standup
[09:06] <Saviq> mzanetti, well, yeah, we need to fix those
[09:06] <mzanetti> ack
[09:06] <Saviq> we need a test fixing session
[09:06] <mzanetti> yeah.. I'm in
[09:06]  * mzanetti doing anything to avoid the 2 reviews on his TODO list :D
[09:14] <Saviq> mzanetti, the password handling one is quite high prio though
[09:14] <Saviq> should land tomorrow
[09:14] <mzanetti> yeah... I'm on that one now
[09:37] <Cimi> Saviq, if you want to assign me in fixing some of those qmltests failing
[09:37] <Cimi> Saviq, I want to do a couple of reviews I have on my list, then I can work on themn
[09:38] <Saviq> Cimi, https://code.launchpad.net/~saviq/unity8/dash-horizontal-list/+merge/230279 would need a review
[09:38] <Saviq> we need that in by Monday
[09:38] <Saviq> and is rather small
[09:38] <Saviq> Cimi, and https://code.launchpad.net/~saviq/unity8/fix-preview-anchor/+merge/230268 is even smaller
[09:38] <Saviq> bar the test
[09:41] <Cimi> bar the test?
[09:42] <Saviq> Cimi, test is bigger
[09:42] <Cimi> ok
[10:01] <Cimi> Saviq, pete-woods so I am testing scope settings [ http://jenkins.qa.ubuntu.com/job/generic-mediumtests-builder-utopic-armhf/4669/artifact/work/output/*zip*/output.zip ]
[10:02] <Cimi> Saviq, pete-woods but if I edit settings, the results don't change
[10:02] <Saviq> Cimi, what if you search and reset?
[10:02] <Cimi> I just disabled 7 digital results from my music scope, the setting is correctly saved (I can even reboot), but they are still there
[10:03] <Cimi> Saviq, ok apparently this was only for search
[10:03] <Saviq> Cimi, no, it sounds like it just doesn't invalidate on settings change
[10:03] <Cimi> so the description is wrong - Display results from 7 Digital ---> Display SEARCH results from 7 Digital
[10:04] <pete-woods> Cimi: sounds like a bug to me from what you're describing
[10:04] <Cimi> actually no, doesn't change anything
[10:05] <Cimi> Saviq, we could put scope settings in a silo
[10:05] <Cimi> Saviq, but pls not let it happen like for infographics
[10:05] <Cimi> lost somewhere and never merged..
[10:05] <Saviq> Cimi, THEY WILL LAND :P
[10:05] <Cimi> cool :)
[10:05] <Cimi> kul
[10:07] <pete-woods> Cimi: I'm starting to think that the aggregator scopes don't actually check those settings
[10:09] <Cimi> pete-woods, debs are working if you want to test
[10:09] <Cimi> https://code.launchpad.net/~cimi/unity8/scope-settings/+merge/230182
[10:09] <pete-woods> Cimi: it's okay, I can already change the setting with the developer UI
[10:09] <Cimi> cool
[10:10] <Cimi> Saviq, if you test scope settings later, ping me I will show you a listviewwithpageheader bug
[10:15] <mzanetti> Saviq: what's your opinion on this? https://code.launchpad.net/~mterry/unity8/wrong-password-handling/+merge/229184/comments/560251
[10:17] <Saviq> mzanetti, well
[10:17] <Saviq> mzanetti, these plugins should be provided by the respective upstreams
[10:17] <mzanetti> Saviq: hmm... you can't require everyone to provide a QML plugin
[10:18] <Saviq> mzanetti, I kinda can
[10:18] <mzanetti> Saviq: where would that stop?
[10:18] <Saviq> mzanetti, where it's not needed any more
[10:18] <Saviq> mzanetti, if QML is our framework of choice
[10:18] <Saviq> mzanetti, and we need to talk to those backends
[10:19] <mzanetti> Saviq: well, but what with upstream we don't own?
[10:19] <Saviq> mzanetti, that could be a separate project then, wrapping different backends we don't own in QML
[10:19] <mzanetti> mhm... ok
[10:19] <mzanetti> I see your point
[10:20] <mzanetti> Saviq: still mine is slightly different
[10:20] <Saviq> mzanetti, whether it's a single plugin or not
[10:20] <mzanetti> Saviq: so atm we're in a position that we have to wrap things ourselves
[10:20] <Saviq> I couldn't be bothered much
[10:20] <mzanetti> ok..
[10:20] <Cimi> Saviq, seen this? https://code.launchpad.net/~dandrader/qtmir/dashRedraw_lp1353374/+merge/230527
[10:20] <Saviq> Cimi, yes
[10:20] <mzanetti> Saviq: I was wondering if it slows down startup time or similar
[10:20] <Saviq> mzanetti, insignificantly I'd say
[10:20] <mzanetti> ok
[10:21] <Cimi> Saviq, but shall we queue all app texture updates?
[10:21] <Cimi> Saviq, isn't better to mark those app surfaces as "I need an update" flag for when they resume?
[10:21] <Saviq> Cimi, they might not send you another frame
[10:21] <Cimi> wondering of small possible performance drawbacks
[10:21] <Saviq> Cimi, because nothing changed
[10:21] <Cimi> Saviq, and is not possible to ask for a repaint?
[10:22] <Saviq> Cimi, if the app doesn't want to, not really
[10:22] <Cimi> I see
[10:22] <Saviq> Cimi, this only affects the 5s between app unfocus and suspension
[10:22] <Cimi> Saviq, which though is not cool
[10:23] <Saviq> or even less than that actually
[10:23] <Cimi> if apps are heavily requesting framers
[10:23] <Saviq> Cimi, they don't get them
[10:23] <Saviq> Cimi, we only give one out per frame
[10:23] <Cimi> Saviq, we might possibly just take the last frame update into consideration?
[10:23] <Saviq> meaning per refresh
[10:23] <Cimi> ok
[10:23] <Saviq> Cimi, that's what sheduleTextureUpdate does
[10:23] <Cimi> Saviq, having a test for that would be great btw... since it happened in the past
[10:24] <Saviq> Cimi, it just tells Qt "next time you'll be drawing this, you need to get a new frame"
[10:24] <Saviq> Cimi, greyback talked with Daniel about a test briefly
[10:24] <Cimi> cool
[10:25] <greyback> Cimi: it's a quick fix. qtmir isn't using Mir's buffer skipping logic *yet*
[10:26] <greyback> but when it will, I'll be happier
[11:30] <facundobatista> Holas
[11:33] <Saviq> o/
[11:34] <dednick> Cimi: hi. do you think you can get to my ubuntu-settings-components  polish branch soon?
[11:34] <Cimi> dednick, I am reviewing it now
[11:34] <dednick> Cimi: cool. thanks
[11:37] <Cimi> dednick, such a massive branch :)
[11:39] <dednick> Cimi: yeah, it's a bit big
[11:40] <Saviq> greyback, hmm hmm
[11:40] <Saviq> MirSurfaceItem::~MirSurfaceItem()  "Unity 8 Mock Dash"
[11:40] <Saviq> Segmentation fault (core dumped)
[11:40] <Saviq> upon make testPanel
[11:40] <greyback> Saviq: with my latest?
[11:41] <Saviq> greyback, distro, not sure what's latest?
[11:41] <Saviq> greyback, but doesn't really matter as there should be no Mir involved...
[11:41] <greyback> Saviq: ah ok. Thought you referring to my MRs.
[11:42] <greyback> yeah I got a couple of those, but failed to get any kind of backtrace. Wasn't sure if xvfb the problem, as test runs ok without it
[11:42] <Saviq> greyback, no, that's on X11
[11:42] <Saviq> greyback, no xvfb
[11:42] <greyback> oh
[11:43] <greyback> ok will check it out
[11:43] <Saviq> greyback, does the mock plugin spit out debugging now?
[11:43] <greyback> Saviq: seems to yes
[11:44] <Saviq> greyback, http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/8035438/
[11:44] <Saviq> ok then yeah, there's some crash on exit in the mock
[11:45] <greyback> Saviq: I fix that in my u8 MR
[11:45] <Saviq> greyback, ktx
[11:45] <greyback> Saviq: can have it separate if you'd like
[11:45] <Saviq> greyback, nah, is fine
[11:46] <greyback> but I still get other crashes with other tests, but only under xvfb
[11:46] <greyback> mind running the whole suite just to check?
[11:49] <cwayne> Saviq: so is there anything we can do re: emblems being super-tiny?  Joe is very adamant that we do need them :/
[11:49] <Saviq> cwayne, you need to change the design
[11:52] <Saviq> cwayne, https://sites.google.com/a/canonical.com/unity8dash/toolkit/4-cards#TOC-Emblem
[11:56] <cwayne> hm, that could be difficult
[12:02] <mzanetti> ah, kgunn_ is back. welcome!
[12:03] <kgunn_> mzanetti, thanks!
[12:04] <Saviq> kgunn_, o/
[12:06] <kgunn_> \o
[12:06] <kgunn_> Saviq, how are we doing ?
[12:07] <Saviq> kgunn_, not too shabby
[12:07] <kgunn_> i saw last night we were having an interesting participant on the bugs :P
[12:08] <Saviq> kgunn_, indeed
[12:17] <mzanetti> :)
[12:26] <mzanetti> Saviq: is this still an issue? I don't think I've seen it in a long time: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/unity8/+bug/1219871
[12:28] <Saviq> mzanetti, dunno, haven't been monitoring it
[12:28] <Cimi> Saviq, do we need sourceSize of images inside ubuntushape?
[12:28] <Saviq> Cimi, yes
[12:34] <Cimi> dednick, https://code.launchpad.net/~nick-dedekind/ubuntu-settings-components/indicator-polishing/+merge/229083
[12:35] <dednick> Cimi: thanks
[13:04] <dandrader> greyback, do you still need people to review the initialSurfaceGeometry MPs?
[13:05] <greyback> dandrader: Saviq did do a quick pass, not sure if he intends to continue it
[13:06] <Saviq> greyback, I do
[13:06] <Saviq> greyback, quick pass! pffft!
[13:06] <Saviq> you wish you'd get reviews like that from others! ;P
[13:09] <greyback> :)
[13:09] <Cimi> dednick, added few more comments
[13:11] <dandrader> Saviq, I just noticed that: 1- you go for instance to the wikipedia scope and select a wikipedia entry 2- then bring up the launcher and launch, say, calculator. 3- you wanna go back to the all-familiar starting place ("I wanna go back home") and therefore you do a full left-edge swipe or tap on the ubuntu icon in the launcher
[13:11] <dandrader> Saviq, but then you're brought back to that wikipedia entry, which is 3 taps away from the apps scope
[13:12] <dandrader> I wonder if it's only me that found it very confusing and if this workflow is still a work in progress
[13:19] <mterry> kgunn_, hello!  So our team might have two blocker bugs on our plate (bug 1354406 and bug 1355726)  -- I'm trying to look at the second.  Is there someone looking at the first? (or am I overlapping with someone on the second?)
[13:19] <kgunn_> mterry, lemme check
[13:21] <mterry> kgunn_, also, the ugly password-setting wizard screen landed
[13:21] <mterry> kgunn_, be prepared for some bugs about its looks
[13:22] <kgunn_> dednick, MacSlow either one of you looking at 1354406
[13:22] <kgunn_> ?
[13:22] <mterry> Saviq, you looked at the --wipe unity8 problem?
[13:22] <MacSlow> kgunn_, not atm
[13:23] <dednick> kgunn_: no. hadn't seen it
[13:23] <kgunn_> hmmm....actually dandrader or greyback i wonder if that could be a qtmir focues thing ? ^
[13:23] <greyback> kgunn_: hey. Which bug?
[13:24] <kgunn_> 1354406
[13:24] <dednick> MacSlow: kgunn_: sounds like the notifiction area is still overlaying with no notifications on screen. "You can swipe away the welcome screen, but the display dims a bit once you do, and nothing is clickable"
[13:25] <dednick> MacSlow: same thing was happening when you resized screen after unlocking a while back.
[13:25] <kgunn_> MacSlow, wonder if this is some sort of bug with queuing ?
[13:25] <dednick> (on desktop)
[13:26] <MacSlow> dednick, kgunn_: sounds like the model backdrop isn't closed properly
[13:26] <MacSlow> dednick, kgunn_: I'll take a look
[13:28] <kgunn_> MacSlow, thanks it's a  blocker so definitely update the bug if you make some progress today
[13:28] <MacSlow> kgunn_, sure... first I'll try to reproduce it on my N4
[13:49] <paulliu> Saviq: is there any new version of strip-u8-tags.sh?
[13:50] <Saviq> paulliu, http://people.canonical.com/~msawicz/unity8/strip-u8-tags.py
[13:50] <Saviq> paulliu, if you still used the sh version, you'll be happy to know that this one is multiple times faster
[13:50] <paulliu> Saviq: thanks.
[13:51] <paulliu> Saviq: cool.
[13:56] <tedg> Saviq, On a large sized touch screen (tablet sized) does the top panel rotate with the screen?
[13:56] <Saviq> tedg, bug #v
[13:56] <Saviq> 1210199
[13:56] <Saviq> aarg
[13:56] <Saviq> bug #1210199
[13:57] <tedg> Oh, rotating on all screens.
[13:58] <Saviq> tedg, 1 == all ;)
[13:58] <tedg> All screen sizes.
[13:58] <Saviq> tedg, when we rotate on all of them is when we can stop rotating on some :)
[13:59] <tedg> Ah greyback, the other Unity developer I was looking for :-)
[14:00] <tedg> greyback, Any luck looking into the app handshake times?
[14:00] <greyback> tedg: I've not had time yet sorry
[14:01] <tedg> greyback, Ah, okay. Is there anything more from me that'd be useful?
[14:04] <greyback> tedg: nothing comes to mind yet. I'll let you know
[14:22] <greyback> ChrisTownsend: hey, started looking into bug 1353041 but unity8 isn't starting up for me on my desktop. Is unity8 working for you?
[14:23] <greyback> ah feck, I've a PPA installed, that's probably breaking mir
[14:24] <ChrisTownsend> greyback: Yeah, no PPA.  Just from the archive it works.
[14:43] <greyback> MacSlow: I managed to reproduce it. I just created 2 events in the calendar app, both triggered at the same time. Also for both events, I set a 5 minute reminder. Then they rang
[14:44] <MacSlow> greyback, that's what I did too... the events just do not trigger anything
[14:44] <greyback> MacSlow: even with the 5 minute reminder?
[14:44] <greyback> without the reminder, yeah they didn't trigger
[14:44] <MacSlow> greyback, I set up two events both at the very same time and with a 5 min. reminder each... nothing
[14:45] <MacSlow> greyback, do you see these events show up on you google-calender (on your desktop... did you sync)?
[14:46] <greyback> MacSlow: sync didn't work for me at all
[14:53] <olli> who can speak to dash overview?
[14:53] <olli> Saviq, mzanetti, greyback^
[14:54] <mzanetti> olli: we're in a hangout atm. but I guess Saviq is the one in this case
[14:54] <Saviq> olli, it doesn't have voice recognition, wassup?
[14:54] <Cimi> olli, albert did it, but he's on holiday atm
[14:54] <olli> Saviq, which image do I want to be on to have this conversation?
[14:55] <Saviq> olli, any after... 158 I think
[14:55] <Cimi> 185
[14:55] <Saviq> or that
[14:56] <Saviq> olli, or rtm v2, landed that in there yesterday, too ;)
[14:56] <olli> k
[15:02] <Cimi> pete-woods, any update on those settings?
[15:02] <pete-woods> Cimi: yes. found a bug in unity-scopes-api (it's looking in the wrong place)
[15:02] <pete-woods> so the config tool is writing them in one place, and the scopes are looking somewhere else
[15:07] <MacSlow> popey, hey Alan...
[15:08] <MacSlow> popey, hey Alan... I'm trying for almost two hours now to reproduce LP: #1354406 but just can't get any calendear-event trigger anything on my phone
[15:08] <popey> MacSlow: can you create two alarms in the clock?
[15:08] <popey> or just create two events at the same time in the calendar?
[15:09] <popey> (on the phone right now)
[15:09] <MacSlow> popey, yeah... just saw Dave's reply... just trying that now
[15:10] <MacSlow> doh... am/pm
[15:25] <Cimi> Saviq, first done https://code.launchpad.net/~saviq/unity8/dash-horizontal-list/+merge/230279
[15:32] <Cimi> Saviq, is there a linked bug for https://code.launchpad.net/~saviq/unity8/dash-horizontal-list/+merge/230279 ?
[15:32] <Cimi> I meant lp:~saviq/unity8/fix-preview-anchor
[15:34] <Saviq> Cimi, replied to horiz list
[15:34] <Saviq> Cimi, no there isn't one
[15:34] <Saviq> Cimi, I just found it because it spat out errors
[15:35] <Saviq> Cimi, but the new shiny test should ensure it works now
[15:38] <dandrader_> MacSlow, where do I get the pynotify module from
[15:39] <Cimi>  Saviq does horizontal list and carousel hero look same dimensions?
[15:39] <Cimi> s/does/do
[15:39] <Saviq> hero?
[15:39] <Cimi> Saviq, scaled one
[15:39] <dandrader> MacSlow, I installed python3-notify2 and python-notify2 but it didn't help
[15:39] <Saviq> Cimi, please write that question again ;D
[15:40] <MacSlow> dandrader, you'll also need... one sec...
[15:40] <Cimi> Saviq, in cardTool, the cardWidth is the same as carousel
[15:40] <Cimi> Saviq, however, carousel also scales
[15:40] <Saviq> Cimi, this one scales, too
[15:41] <Cimi> Saviq, I did some code to ignore the scaling on the carousel side, so I think they will look the same
[15:41] <Cimi> Saviq, can you double check?
[15:41] <Saviq> Cimi, you mean that cards in horizontal list are supposed to have the same dimensions as the explicitly scaled one in carousel?
[15:42] <Cimi> Saviq, is this what design wanted, right?
[15:42] <Saviq> Cimi, they have no idea what they want
[15:42] <Saviq> Cimi, in this case at least
[15:43] <Saviq> Cimi, it got all of 3 minutes attention
[15:44] <MacSlow> dandrader, did you also get just "python-notify"?
[15:46] <Cimi> Saviq, ok, branch is fine then :)
[15:46] <Cimi> Saviq, I'd try to see if they have same size though
[15:46] <Saviq> Cimi, easy to do, just go into scope tool and change one category to be carousel, another to be horizontal-list
[15:47] <dandrader> MacSlow, oh, right. that did it.
[15:49] <Cimi> Saviq, looks exactly as the carousel - fine
[15:50] <Cimi> Saviq, I'd still add the flickable stuff
[15:50] <Cimi> flickDeceleration: 1500 * units.gridUnit / 8; maximumFlickVelocity: 2500 * units.gridUnit / 8; // FIXME workaround for https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-ui-toolkit/+bug/1348557
[15:59] <Cimi> Saviq, which was the bug related to https://code.launchpad.net/~saviq/unity8/fix-preview-anchor/+merge/230268 ?
[15:59] <Saviq> Cimi, there wasn't any
[15:59] <Saviq> Cimi, let's hope that it will be fixed globally :)
[15:59] <Cimi> Saviq, did we have an anchoring issue?
[15:59] <Saviq> Cimi, we did
[16:00] <Saviq> Cimi, there isn't a pageHeader
[16:00] <Saviq> in that file
[16:05] <Cimi> Saviq, you might want to merge trunk
[16:05] <Cimi> Saviq, that fix is already in trunk
[16:06] <Saviq> Cimi, hum
[16:06] <Saviq> Cimi, test isn't, though, pushed
[16:21] <Cimi> Saviq, tried testPreviewListView
[16:21] <Cimi> Saviq, can we have make try for it with the previews?
[16:21] <Cimi> Saviq, also, on desktop I get an XFAIL (which i don't know what it is yet - googling)
[16:23] <Saviq> Cimi, expected fail, a negative test
[16:24] <Saviq> Cimi, we have tryDash where the previews are
[16:24] <Saviq> Cimi, and FWIW tryPreviewListView works, too, but there's some issue there that the first one doesn't show
[16:25] <Cimi> Saviq, ok approved both
[16:29] <Saviq> Cimi, tx
[16:31] <Cimi> Saviq, with dualboot, how do you boot to android?
[16:32] <Saviq> Cimi, that's the default
[16:32] <Saviq> Cimi, ubuntu boots from recovery
[17:20] <greyback_> ChrisTownsend: hey, I've played with unity8 on desktop, but never managed to make it hang on log out. I'm logging out via the indicator, is that enough?
[17:20] <greyback_> ChrisTownsend: do I need a particular app open?
[17:24] <greyback_> ChrisTownsend: hey, I've played with unity8 on desktop, but never managed to make it hang on log out. I'm logging out via the indicator, is that enough?
[17:25] <greyback_> ChrisTownsend: do I need a particular app open?
[17:41] <ChrisTownsend> greyback_: Hey, so you're up-to-date from the archive and on Utopic?
[17:43] <ChrisTownsend> greyback_: And nothing special running.  Just logging via indicator hangs for me.  bregma has seen the issue as well.
[17:46] <greyback_> ChrisTownsend: yep fully up to date. I tried with no app running, then with webbrowser running. Logout worked
[17:47] <greyback_> typical :)
[17:47] <ChrisTownsend> greyback_: Strange
[17:47] <greyback_> when I log out, I get brought back to unity8's greeter, that's expected?
[17:47] <ChrisTownsend> greyback_: Umm, logout should bring you back to lightdm
[17:48] <greyback_> ok so that's notable :)
[17:48] <ChrisTownsend> greyback_: Yeah.  For me, it just hangs with the "Logout" dialogue box that says Cancel and Yes.  When I click Yes, then that's it.
[17:49] <ChrisTownsend> greyback_: Then when I attach gdb to the main unity8 process, I get that bt I posted in the bug.
[17:49] <greyback_> ChrisTownsend: could you please attach the output of ~/.cache/upstart/unity8.log to the bug. It might have a clue
[17:50] <ChrisTownsend> greyback_: I have a snippet of it in the bug.  Do you want the whole log?
[17:50] <greyback_> ChrisTownsend: yes please
[17:50] <ChrisTownsend> greyback_: Ok, sure.  I'll get it up there in a bit.
[17:51] <greyback_> 8.00+14.10.20140811-0ubuntu1 is the unity8 version I'm testing with
[17:51] <greyback_> mir 0.6 too
[17:52] <mzanetti> mterry: hey
[17:52] <mterry> mzanetti, hello
[17:52] <mzanetti> mterry: did you drop the spinner because of my review or because of design?
[17:53] <mterry> mzanetti, both
[17:53] <mterry> mzanetti, design didn't like it in London
[17:53] <mterry> mzanetti, but I already had the merge, and it made the PAM delay more bearable
[17:53] <mzanetti> mterry: ok then... if it was just for the conflicts I would have updated it
[17:53] <mterry> mzanetti, so I figured I'd keep it in until the PAM delay was gone.  But you prompted me to remove early
[17:54] <mzanetti> mterry: did I ask you to remove it?
[17:54] <mzanetti> I think I just said I will probably have to redo it because of the conflicts :)
[17:55] <mzanetti> but anyways... if design didn't like it either we're good I guess
[17:55] <mterry> mzanetti, yeah but less conflicts in the first place is better and it was doomed code  :)
[17:55] <mzanetti> mterry: regarding the tiny plugin thing
[17:55] <mzanetti> I don't feel strong about it. mostly just wanted to hear your opinion...
[17:55] <ChrisTownsend> greyback_: I'm using those versions too.  I've attached the log.
[17:56] <greyback_> ChrisTownsend: thanks
[17:56] <ChrisTownsend> greyback_: Thank *you*
[17:56] <mzanetti> mterry: was a bit worried that eventually we'll get bad startup time or similar with all those microplugins to be loaded
[17:56] <mterry> mzanetti, fair.  I just didn't know a good umbrella plugin that wouldn't be so generic it was just a hodgepodge
[17:57] <mterry> mzanetti, but less plugins would mean less boilerplate and mock plugins, which is always nice
[17:57] <mzanetti> yeah, that too
[17:59] <mzanetti> mterry: the showInfoPopup() working fine for you?
[17:59] <mterry> mzanetti, yeah it did.  Didn't know that existed!  :)
[17:59] <mzanetti> mterry: was originally introduced to show the "SIM Locked, get your PUK ready" message
[18:00] <mzanetti> mterry: ok, I guess we're good then with this branch too.
[18:01] <mterry> mzanetti, a plugin-consolidation branch could be a separate effort.  I also am uneasy with the spread of micro-plugins
[18:01] <mzanetti> mterry: yeah agreed, this is not the branch to merge them...
[18:01] <mterry> mzanetti, maybe what we need is a tiny DBus plugin that lets you make one-off calls like this
[18:02] <mterry> mzanetti, so no umbrella-plugin issue, but we can do dumb one-offs like this without a whole new thing
[18:03] <mzanetti> maybe... but afaik several people tried that already... its either a complex beast or is always lacking that one feature you need now
[18:03] <mterry> mzanetti, yeah it doesn't need to be an be-all-end-all thing, but it might let us drop some of these micro ones
[18:03] <mterry> mzanetti, but yeah, a separate effort for now
[18:03] <mterry> mzanetti, thanks for the review!
[18:08] <mzanetti> mterry: small issues still
[18:08] <mzanetti> 2 inline comments
[18:08] <mterry> mzanetti, ok, looking
[18:09] <mterry> mzanetti, ugh you're right.  Hasty me
[18:11] <mzanetti> mterry: also this fails here: qmltestrunner::ShellWithPin::test_failedLoginsCount
[18:12] <mterry> mzanetti, oh?  I don't see that...
[18:14] <mzanetti> mterry: I ran make xvfbtestShellWithPin
[18:15] <mzanetti> pasted all the failures to the MP
[18:15] <mterry> mzanetti, interesting.  I get 10 pass 0 fail here
[18:15] <mterry> Maybe I'm out of date build wise
[18:16] <mterry> no, still good
[18:26]  * mzanetti tries again
[18:26] <mzanetti> mterry: fine now
[18:26] <mzanetti> maybe just follow up failures from the dialog thing
[18:27] <mterry> mzanetti, oh good, though odd
[18:27] <mterry> I tried several times.  If it's flaky, it's not very reproducable
[18:28] <mzanetti> mterry: no, looks good now
[18:28] <mzanetti> approved
[18:59] <Saviq> mterry, you nasty people deleting our sockets!
[19:15] <Saviq> mzanetti, did you understand Rick's bug?
[19:15] <Saviq> mzanetti, I'm trying to get more details in #canonical
[19:15] <Saviq> mzanetti, but I suspect he's not getting into the spread for real
[19:16] <Saviq> mzanetti, but he seems to have discovered that you can swipe away an app in the middle of a short-swipe, not sure that's desired, especially because the other app jumps at that point
[19:49] <mzanetti> Saviq: I thought its because if he has one focused app and goes to spread, the dash is covering the app for like 80%
[19:49] <mzanetti> Saviq: and if he's trying to grab the app there at the left edge, chances are he ends up pulling in the launcher or so
[19:49] <mzanetti> that's how I understood it
[19:50] <Saviq> mzanetti, hmm maybe, although it doesn't make it difficult for me...
[19:50] <mzanetti> but didn't investiage at all or think more about it
[19:50] <mzanetti> Saviq: yeah, I didn't have the issue either
[19:50] <Saviq> mzanetti, but maybe it does make sense to stop the spread at a more sensible place
[19:50] <Saviq> at least initially
[19:50] <mzanetti> yeah, that's what this bug mostly means to me
[19:50] <mzanetti> but maybe you're right and he's trying to do what you said