[20:08] <netritious> howdy
[20:11] <Ubik> hullo
[20:13] <netritious> hi Ubik
[20:13] <Unit193> netritious: You're back!
[20:14] <netritious> I always come back :D
[20:15] <netritious> how's it going Unit193
[20:15] <Unit193> Well I have coffee and good music, but trying to get two couches out of here.
[20:15] <Unit193> You?
[20:16] <Ubik> hey
[20:16] <Ubik> netritious is like a wart... just won't go away
[20:16] <Ubik> as am I :P
[20:17] <Ubik> yall are stuck with us both
[20:17] <netritious> lol
[20:17] <Unit193> I seem to forget how to get out of here. >_>
[20:17]  * Ubik kicks cyberanger upside the head
[20:19] <netritious> Unit193: just got my parts to put together my new pfsense box
[20:20] <Unit193> Aha!  Nice.  Transferring the latest build of my OS to my flash, might need it.
[20:20] <Unit193> netritious: Replacing an old one?
[20:20] <netritious> yep. About 18 months in production
[20:23] <netritious> moving from VM to physical machine. realized I could save a few hundred bucks in electricity if i did
[20:24] <Ubik> I'm not a VM fan
[20:26] <Unit193> They're handy.
[20:26] <netritious> Ubik: because?
[20:26] <netritious> Unit193: yeah I demo'ed vmware when it first came out...I wanna say 2001...been hooked ever since.
[20:27] <Unit193> Hrm, wonder if there's an "easier" way to rsync this. :P
[20:27] <Unit193> Wow.  I use it more for testing than anything else, vbox/qemu.
[20:27] <Ubik> performance issues
[20:27] <Ubik> seems to run slower than it would natively
[20:28] <Ubik> case in point...our Asterisk cloud which is all VM (against my wishes/recommendation) always seems to have "weird" issues
[20:28] <Ubik> calls breaking up for no apparent reason etc :/
[20:28] <netritious> Ubik: that's true most of the time, yes. I built my system just for running [insert OS here]
[20:28] <Ubik> yep, thats the way to go
[20:29] <Ubik> thinking my next project may be to migrate all my personal domains off of dreamhost
[20:29] <Unit193> Qemu is handy for testing UEFI+Secure boot capability in ISOs, for me.
[20:29] <Ubik> wordpress seems to take >7 seconds to return any data :(
[20:29] <Ubik> yeah
[20:29] <Ubik> now I love the ability to spin up stuff on EC2 for testing, thats handy
[20:29] <Unit193> I use namecheap for the domain itself.
[20:30] <Ubik> and I've been able to virtualize ircd's etc with no real problems
[20:31] <netritious> Unit193: I ran KVM/Qemu for a while...I liked it for testing.
[20:31] <Unit193> I tend to favor vbox for testing though.
[20:32] <netritious> Ubik: I've consulted on a couple of VMware weirdness  service calls. One company moved their 2TB MSSQL DB to VMware ESXi and did very very strange things.
[20:33] <netritious> Doctor's office software was .NET and MSSQL, so IIS, Exchange, etc was all moved and everything except the MSSQL end of things worked as expected.
[20:33] <netritious> it was like it worked, then didn't lol. Reboots sometimes solved the issue, but once an hour wasn't going to cut it.
[20:35] <netritious> anyway, was a genuine bug fixed by VMware
[20:37] <netritious> Unit193: I ran KVM/Qemu on a dual core AMD 2.5GHz CPU with 4GB RAM and Debian. I was very proud of that machine until I killed it heh
[20:39] <netritious> I had it all tricked out (admin style). remote ssh luks unlock, gdm at [3], vncserver, multiple bridges, etc etc.
[20:41] <netritious> sudo apt-get --purge --auto-remove upgrade is a very dumb thing to do and broke my debian install. probably could have fixed if there weren't kernel updates
[20:41] <netritious> sorry for the flood
[20:42] <netritious> where's wrst?
[20:54] <Unit193> Hiding.  I run full-upgrade and sudo apt-get autoremove --purge; sudo apt-get autoclean   just about daily.
[20:54] <Unit193> Stupid flash problems. :/
[21:11] <netritious_> that was weird
[21:13] <Unit193> netsplit.
[21:13] <netritious> ah
[21:14] <Ubik> back finally
[21:25] <netritious> wb Ubik
[21:28] <Ubik> thanks
[23:39] <cyberanger> netritious: MSSQL not working as expected seems expected to me
[23:40] <cyberanger> at least it's not an Access "DB" but still I can't imagine a Windows server with a large DB
[23:45] <netritious> cyberanger: MSSQL works fine. I like MySQL/MariaDB, but started using Postgres for most of my projects where it needs a db
[23:48] <netritious> Access isn't terrible either. I know of at least one of the web sites I wrote using it is still in production....10 years on the web unaltered.
[23:48] <netritious> well, new data added, but 10 year old ASP code
[23:49] <netritious> maybe it's terrible now but then it was free compared to MSSQL
[23:51] <netritious> Sooooo glad I switched to PHP all those years ago heh