[20:08] howdy [20:11] hullo [20:13] hi Ubik [20:13] netritious: You're back! [20:14] I always come back :D [20:15] how's it going Unit193 [20:15] Well I have coffee and good music, but trying to get two couches out of here. [20:15] You? [20:16] hey [20:16] netritious is like a wart... just won't go away [20:16] as am I :P [20:17] yall are stuck with us both [20:17] lol [20:17] I seem to forget how to get out of here. >_> [20:17] * Ubik kicks cyberanger upside the head [20:19] Unit193: just got my parts to put together my new pfsense box [20:20] Aha! Nice. Transferring the latest build of my OS to my flash, might need it. [20:20] netritious: Replacing an old one? [20:20] yep. About 18 months in production [20:23] moving from VM to physical machine. realized I could save a few hundred bucks in electricity if i did [20:24] I'm not a VM fan [20:26] They're handy. [20:26] Ubik: because? [20:26] Unit193: yeah I demo'ed vmware when it first came out...I wanna say 2001...been hooked ever since. [20:27] Hrm, wonder if there's an "easier" way to rsync this. :P [20:27] Wow. I use it more for testing than anything else, vbox/qemu. [20:27] performance issues [20:27] seems to run slower than it would natively [20:28] case in point...our Asterisk cloud which is all VM (against my wishes/recommendation) always seems to have "weird" issues [20:28] calls breaking up for no apparent reason etc :/ [20:28] Ubik: that's true most of the time, yes. I built my system just for running [insert OS here] [20:28] yep, thats the way to go [20:29] thinking my next project may be to migrate all my personal domains off of dreamhost [20:29] Qemu is handy for testing UEFI+Secure boot capability in ISOs, for me. [20:29] wordpress seems to take >7 seconds to return any data :( [20:29] yeah [20:29] now I love the ability to spin up stuff on EC2 for testing, thats handy [20:29] I use namecheap for the domain itself. [20:30] and I've been able to virtualize ircd's etc with no real problems [20:31] Unit193: I ran KVM/Qemu for a while...I liked it for testing. [20:31] I tend to favor vbox for testing though. [20:32] Ubik: I've consulted on a couple of VMware weirdness service calls. One company moved their 2TB MSSQL DB to VMware ESXi and did very very strange things. [20:33] Doctor's office software was .NET and MSSQL, so IIS, Exchange, etc was all moved and everything except the MSSQL end of things worked as expected. [20:33] it was like it worked, then didn't lol. Reboots sometimes solved the issue, but once an hour wasn't going to cut it. [20:35] anyway, was a genuine bug fixed by VMware [20:37] Unit193: I ran KVM/Qemu on a dual core AMD 2.5GHz CPU with 4GB RAM and Debian. I was very proud of that machine until I killed it heh [20:39] I had it all tricked out (admin style). remote ssh luks unlock, gdm at [3], vncserver, multiple bridges, etc etc. [20:41] sudo apt-get --purge --auto-remove upgrade is a very dumb thing to do and broke my debian install. probably could have fixed if there weren't kernel updates [20:41] sorry for the flood [20:42] where's wrst? [20:54] Hiding. I run full-upgrade and sudo apt-get autoremove --purge; sudo apt-get autoclean just about daily. [20:54] Stupid flash problems. :/ [21:11] that was weird === netritious_ is now known as netritious [21:13] netsplit. [21:13] ah [21:14] back finally [21:25] wb Ubik [21:28] thanks [23:39] netritious: MSSQL not working as expected seems expected to me [23:40] at least it's not an Access "DB" but still I can't imagine a Windows server with a large DB [23:45] cyberanger: MSSQL works fine. I like MySQL/MariaDB, but started using Postgres for most of my projects where it needs a db [23:48] Access isn't terrible either. I know of at least one of the web sites I wrote using it is still in production....10 years on the web unaltered. [23:48] well, new data added, but 10 year old ASP code [23:49] maybe it's terrible now but then it was free compared to MSSQL [23:51] Sooooo glad I switched to PHP all those years ago heh