[11:20] <ochosi> hey everyone
[11:20] <ochosi> just to inform you guys (again), i won't be able to make the meeting tomorrow
[11:22] <ochosi> i added two items to the agenda, both are roadmap-related
[11:22] <ochosi> knome: maybe you can help me set up the status.ubuntu page for 14.10 (if it's not too late for that now)
[11:23] <ochosi> anyway, i won't be around much the next two days, but return sometime on saturday
[11:28] <ochosi> elfy, knome: i saw some mentions of my name in the CC meeting, anything you wanna update me on specifically?
[11:44] <elfy> ochosi: not that I'm aware of - was just a general thing with the CC
[11:56] <ochosi> okeydokey
[12:06] <rowboatn1ck> How come the bottom panel is gone? 
[12:07] <elfy> that's what was decided 
[12:07] <rowboatn1ck> Is it decided for this cycle?
[12:07] <elfy> I see no reason for it to come back
[12:09] <elfy> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Xubuntu/Roadmap/Specifications/Trusty/Whiskermenu
[12:09] <rowboatn1ck> It's very useful to have it, quick launch really, also it looks great, + its painful to create it yourself :D
[12:09] <elfy> it was part of that
[12:10] <elfy> bbl
[12:11] <rowboatn1ck> yeah it makes sense, technically. But the desktop feels naked
[12:12] <rowboatn1ck> Maybe a toggle switch for automatically creating it could be included? 
[12:14] <ochosi> rowboatn1ck: i'd say that's not realistic, at least not for 14.10
[12:14] <ochosi> there is a roadmap item for lderan to work on a graphical frontend for panel-switch, a python app that allows to save/backup panel layouts
[12:15] <rowboatn1ck> oh okay
[12:15] <rowboatn1ck> that would be neat
[12:15] <ochosi> if that gets done (no idea what the status on this is, lderan?) we can ship it as a simple way of switching panel layouts
[12:15] <ochosi> so we could also ship a few templates by default, including the pre-14.04 layouts
[12:15] <ochosi> if you feel comfortable in python, feel free to work on the UI yourself ;)
[12:16] <ochosi> (i think i even created mockups for it()
[15:17] <knome> ochosi, send amail to the CC mail list introducing yourself and telling you're the new XPL.
[15:17] <knome> ochosi, i can help with the status stuff later today or tomorrow
[15:21] <ochosi> knome: won't be around much until saturday unfortunately
[15:29] <knome> ochosi, when are you leaving? i just came back home myself, and we're about to leave for the evening
[15:49] <knome> bbl.. ->
[17:11] <ochosi> knome: i'm already on the train, might have a minute or two tomorrow or very late tonight
[17:12] <ochosi> but it's not really planable i'm afraid
[18:31] <sergio-br2> hi
[18:32] <sergio-br2> thunar is crashing sometimes, when i use Alt + Up Arrow
[18:32] <sergio-br2> in trusty
[18:33] <sergio-br2> i don't know if it happens because I use more than 2 tabs...
[18:33] <sergio-br2> it's hard to reproduce
[18:33] <sergio-br2> someone else has the same problem?
[22:13] <knome> ochosi, let's see what happens... i'm online here and there myself, maybe we'll hit the same spot.