[00:33] <foundmypaaants> Hey guys, I'm at a stump in my bash script - It's local, completely local, not distributing it, so it won't be a security threat or something - How do I, inside a bash script, do sudo and then put in my password inside the script so i dont need to
[00:33] <foundmypaaants> This would make my script executing a lot easier
[00:35] <Unit193> foundmypaaants: I wouldn't recommend this, but: -S, --stdin                 read password from standard input
[00:35] <foundmypaaants> uppercase?
[00:35] <foundmypaaants> sudo -s -S
[00:35] <foundmypaaants> correct?
[00:36] <ElderDryas> foundmypaaants: I'd ask in #bash, there are over 800 folks there, you're more likely to get an answer there
[00:38] <Psil0Cybin> Anyone know why the SSH key passphrase screen is via a GUI instead of terminal on Xbuntu 14.04?
[00:38] <Psil0Cybin> I do not want it to display the GUI, and keep me logged in..I want it to be like 12.04 where i constantly type in my SSH key passphrase
[00:38] <Unit193> Psil0Cybin: I'd presume because you're using seahorse or something like that?
[00:39] <Psil0Cybin> no
[00:39] <Psil0Cybin> default terminal
[00:39] <Psil0Cybin> with Xubuntu-desktop, on 14.04, and it popped up in a GUI to type in my SSH Keyphrase
[00:39] <Psil0Cybin> and i did, and now i dont need too anymore and it bugs me
[00:40] <Psil0Cybin> i want too type it in like i used too with 12.04 in the terminal every time
[00:41] <foundmypaaants> Hmm
[00:42] <foundmypaaants> Are you using extra arguments in your command to connect?
[00:44] <Unit193> Well, when that window pops up, open a terminal and type xprop | grep WM_CLASS  then click on the offending window.  I believe it to be seahorse, but as I use the other method myself I don't know.
[01:20] <aryan_> how can i run windows software in xubuntu
[01:51] <foundmypaaants> This will be a fun (painful and excruciating) night of installing the apache and other! Yay! :P
[02:46] <Psil0Cybin> hello i Edit /etc/UPower/UPower.conf and add IgnoreLid=true to the bottom.and now when i close my laptop lid it opens up Display Settings I tried (http://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/13753/prevent-xfce-from-showing-display-settings-on-laptop-lid-close-open)
[03:05] <xubuntu821> good morning
[06:20] <ObrienDave> any way to get app menu items to auto sort by name?
[06:20] <cfhowlett> ObrienDave, mine are alpha by default ...
[06:21] <ObrienDave> yes, but things i install go to the bottom of each category
[06:22] <cfhowlett> ObrienDave, "main menu" and manually arrange
[06:22] <ObrienDave> was afraid you were going to get snarky ;P
[06:22] <cfhowlett> ObrienDave, Accessories > Extra Snark
[06:22] <ObrienDave> rofl
[06:59] <ObrienDave> cant think of one clean enough for the channel ;P
[07:15] <hoijui> on xubuntu 14.04 i installed compiz, and used it with compiz --replace, which worked
[07:16] <hoijui> after restart, all my windows open on one desktop, without decorations (no borders, cant switch between windwos) and i can't use the keyboard
[07:16] <hoijui> compiz is not running
[07:17] <hoijui> what shoudl i do .. to fix the whole situation? ;-)
[07:17] <hoijui> (i woudl like to use compiz again)
[07:17] <brainwash> hoijui: you'll have to add an autostart entry for compiz then
[07:17] <baizon> hoijui: clear .cache/session
[07:17] <hoijui> ah yeah... how do i do that on the terminal (adding compiz to autostart)
[07:18] <ObrienDave> read baizon's suggestion
[07:19] <brainwash> clearing the cache will only restore the default window manager
[07:19] <baizon> brainwash: which will restore the decoration, then he can add compiz to autostart
[07:20] <brainwash> you can add a new autostart entry via settings manager > session and startup
[07:20] <brainwash> do you need window decorations to do that?
[07:21] <hoijui> yeah.. cant use the gui. cant open the settings manager there
[07:22] <brainwash> is the panel missing?
[07:22] <hoijui> yes
[07:22] <brainwash> I guess you should clear the cache first in this case
[07:23] <hoijui> ook
[07:27] <hoijui> worked well.. but compiz is not in the list of applications (under "Application Autostart")
[07:27] <hoijui> just add it myself?
[07:28] <hoijui> "compiz --replace" ?
[07:29] <brainwash> if you don't add it manually, then it won't start automatically after you log in :)
[07:29] <hoijui> just... that i saw in tutorials, that it should be there already after installing compiz, just not enabled
[07:31] <brainwash> no clue, sorry
[07:31] <hoijui> ok
[07:32] <hoijui> cool.. worked! :-)
[07:32] <brainwash> is there any particular reason why you want to replace the default window manager with compiz?
[07:32] <hoijui> thanks guys!! :-)
[07:33] <brainwash> just curious
[07:33] <hoijui> i use two things from compiz
[07:33] <hoijui> one is expo, and the other is scale
[07:33] <brainwash> ah, I see :)
[07:33] <hoijui> though, expo is much less usable then in hte past, cause it does not use scale
[09:37] <xubuntu610> ciao
[14:47] <GeekDude> holstein: I'm using vino now instead of trying to use x11vnc. It works pretty well, but it doesn't work on the login screen. This is okay (not preferred), but my desktop keeps locking itself, and I'm not sure where to find the setting for that
[14:50] <holstein> GeekDude: i have a server running at a different location.. i ssh into the machine and start x11vnc manually when needed. i dont leave it running in the background. its starts up on an already running desktop that doesnt lock, or sleep, since, its only for vnc and ssh anyways
[14:51] <holstein> GeekDude: you may want to just take a few steps back and talk about what you are doing in a larger sense.. i can say, the *only* reason i am using x11vnc like this is so my chromebook that is running chromeOS and other (arguably limited) vnc clients can connect to the linux desktop
[14:51] <holstein> otherwise, i used to just use teamview, which may take care of all of your issues automatically.. it also depends on the state and use of the server machine.. is it remote, headless.. do others use it.. etc
[14:51] <holstein> teamviewer*
[14:53] <GeekDude> I'm running a client program that only has a gui interface
[14:53] <holstein> nomachine may work best for you, since, its not really forwarding the x session.. and i would use it, if all my clients co-operated..
[14:53] <GeekDude> I want to interact with the client
[14:53] <holstein> GeekDude: you are forwarding x.. so the client will need to have a GUI interface
[14:53] <holstein> GeekDude: you touch the client.. thats interaction
[14:54] <holstein> GeekDude: if you havent considered nomachine, its quite easy, and would be running in the background before login..
[14:54] <holstein> GeekDude: its "free" of charge to try
[14:54] <GeekDude> I haven't heard of it before
[14:55] <GeekDude> I own splashtop pro, but the last time I checked it has terrible linux integration
[14:55] <holstein> GeekDude: splashtop worked great for me
[14:55] <holstein> GeekDude: i found it interchangable, if not "better" for my needs than teamviewer.. still, when i can, i use nomachine, so im not sending a forward of the session like that
[14:56] <holstein> GeekDude: nomachine feels more "native" and addresses the issue you are having of the login screen.. arguably more "secure", or appropriate, not knowing your needs
[14:58] <GeekDude> I already use vnc on all my windows machines, so I was hoping for a vnc server
[14:58] <holstein> GeekDude: there are plenty
[14:59] <holstein> GeekDude: there are also nomachine clients and servers. and you many find it more appropriate, though, i cant more clearly ask you for your needs
[15:00] <holstein> GeekDude: if you want vnc, vino is doing that.. if you want it to run from the login screen, http://jakeyoon.com/2008/11/19/enable-vino-vnc-server-for-login-manager-gdm-in-ubuntu/ or http://askubuntu.com/questions/83824/how-can-i-start-a-vnc-server-before-log-on is where i would start
[15:01] <holstein> the only reason im using vnc now instead of nomachine is for client integration.. there is no nomachine client for chromeOS.. also, many cellphones.. otherwise, from windows to linux, or desktop to desktop i prefer nomachine
[15:30] <GeekDude> holstein: I've toyed around a bit with x11vnc
[15:31] <GeekDude> it appears that something along the line doesn't like it when I don't have the -usepw flag
[15:34] <holstein> i have a password,and dont use that flag
[15:34] <holstein> GeekDude: thats why i implied that you were configuring it incorrectly, and to test with vino to be sure a connection was possible
[15:35] <holstein> GeekDude: nomachine is more "native" feeling.. there is literally no reason not to try it
[16:03] <Church> feature i like for x11vnc, is that it is able to attach/reexport existing X11 session. can nomachine do same, or like normal Xvnc only start full separate X11 session?
[16:03] <xubuntu924> Hello
[16:05] <xubuntu924> I came because i recently installed Xubuntu 14.04.1 on my laptop (had previously 13.10) and when i boot it, about 1 out of 2 times, the usb ports doesn't to function anymore (no more mouse ou usb key working). Can i do something about it ?
[16:20] <xubuntu924> I tried an lsusb with this result :
[16:20] <xubuntu924> Bus 002 Device 002: ID 8087:8000 Intel Corp.  Bus 002 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0002 Linux Foundation 2.0 root hub Bus 001 Device 002: ID 8087:8008 Intel Corp.  Bus 001 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0002 Linux Foundation 2.0 root hub Bus 004 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0003 Linux Foundation 3.0 root hub Bus 003 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0002 Linux Foundation 2.0 root hub
[16:20] <xubuntu924> Hope it helps
[16:22] <xubuntu924> I am launching an update, I'll come back if it doesn't work. Thank you for help.
[16:25] <holstein> Church: you can basically "re-attach"
[17:29] <xubuntu923> Hello, I'm back with my usb problem, the update didn't fix it. Any ideas ?
[17:50] <xubuntu923> Anyone ?
[17:54] <arno_> Hi, I want to disable caps locks (or make it an escape key)
[17:54] <arno_> So, I'm supposed to set XkbOptions to "caps:escape"
[17:54] <arno_> but how do I set XkbOptions in the keyboard config manager?
[17:57] <helpme> hi
[18:00] <Guest650> hi
[18:24] <Guest650> hi
[18:28] <GridCube> !hi | Guest650
[18:29] <Guest650> enjoy ubottu
[18:40] <Guest650> fuck
[18:40] <Guest650> fuc you
[18:42] <Guest650> but
[18:42] <Guest650> im banned ubuntu-it
[18:42] <Guest650> because
[18:43] <Guest650> '
[18:46] <soman> How to output sound to earphones xubuntu 14.04.1? Realtec ALC850
[18:47] <Guest650> im drunk
[18:47] <Guest650> i killed my married
[18:49] <soman> Guest650: don't forget to update the packages in your Xubuntu
[18:53] <Guest650> update?
[18:53] <Guest650> im killed my mom
[18:53] <bazhang> Guest650, stop that
[18:54] <Guest650> i m killed my sons
[19:04] <soman> Guest650: it seems that you killed your brains
[19:14] <quantibility> i killed my script
[19:15] <quantibility> and the scripts children
[19:18] <quantibility> is xubuntu_offtopic dead?
[19:19] <quantibility> or am i in the wrong room cause i spelled it wrong
[19:19] <Unit193> s/_/-/
[19:19] <GeekDude> from the topic "Offtopic: #xubuntu-offtopic"
[19:19] <quantibility> hmm
[19:19] <quantibility> netspit?
[19:20] <quantibility> split?
[19:25] <KroSaver> Hello
[19:26] <KroSaver> Hola
[19:26] <KroSaver> Privet
[19:26] <KroSaver> Hay alguien?
[19:39] <xubuntu454> Hi. Can s.o. help me? Xubuntu doesnt react to the scanner, but the printer in the same machine. Do i need an extra driver? hardly worked on xfce before...
[19:40] <xubuntu454> hi there?
[19:40] <GeekDude> hi
[19:40] <GeekDude> I... have no idea, but I like greeting people
[19:40] <xubuntu454> have an idea about the scanner...?
[19:40] <xubuntu454> ah sry. ;-) hello
[19:41] <xubuntu454> nice to be greeted anyway
[19:45] <Unit193> xubuntu454: What scanner?
[19:46] <xubuntu454> canon pixma mg 5250
[19:46] <xubuntu454> as said, printer works fine
[19:52] <Unit193> xubuntu454: http://askubuntu.com/questions/168089/how-do-i-install-my-new-canon-mg5250-printer-mg5200-series looks like it might be related.
[19:54] <xubuntu454> thanks, i take a look
[20:24] <bosnjak> I have a zombie menu entry in XFCE Main Menu under "Other". I can get rid of it, I can't find it in any .xml files or anywhere on the system.. Is there a way I can "reset" the menu to default state somehow? Maybe deleting some config directory under /home?
[20:27] <bosnjak> hm, just figured it out :/ the entries were actually defined in files under ~/.local/share/applications/
[20:48] <arno_> Hi, I have a question: I don't understand this package:arch thing
[20:48] <arno_> for example, it looks like I have libxft2:amd64 and libxft2:i386 package installed on my machine
[20:48] <arno_> are these two different packages, or just one package which has two "virtual" packages?
[20:50] <genii> arno_: They are two separate packages which could install their libraries to either /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu for 64bit or /lib/i386-linux-gnu for 32 bit.
[20:51] <arno_> genii: thanks
[20:51] <arno_> so, two questions now:
[20:52] <arno_> how is it possible that some files belong to two packages?
[20:52] <arno_> (for example, /usr/share/doc/libxft2/changelog.Debian.gz)
[20:52] <arno_> and the most important one: how do I rebuild and install a package
[20:52] <arno_> I rebuild a package with apt-get source and dpkg-buildpackage
[20:53] <arno_> actually, I want to downgrade one package
[20:53] <arno_> so I rebuilt it, but I cannot install it, because the :i386 is at a different version
[20:54] <genii> Yes, you would need to build both to same version.
[20:54] <genii> As for files which are in different packages, this is not uncommon.
[20:55] <genii> ( same files in different packages)
[20:56] <genii> arno_: You can specify version and architecture in apt-get with syntax like:   apt-get source package:arch=specific-version
[20:58] <arno_> genii: ok, thanks
[20:58] <ali1234> https://wiki.debian.org/Multiarch
[21:04] <xubuntu276> Hello Everyone
[21:05] <xubuntu276> Can anyone tell me how to Install Broadcom Wifi Driver in Xubuntu??????????
[21:06] <xubuntu276> knock knock is there anyone???? awaking????
[21:07] <Psil0Cybin> how can i back up my home directory properly so i can reformat my computer, and copy over the files
[21:07] <Psil0Cybin> someone said i have to use ext4 for a hard drive, to copy it onto correct?
[21:08] <BarnabasDK> Psil0Cybin, /home/<user> ?
[21:08] <Psil0Cybin> yea
[21:08] <Psil0Cybin> i think that has all the stuff i want
[21:08] <Psil0Cybin> like settings for applications, etc
[21:08] <BarnabasDK> unless you purposely changed someting else
[21:09] <BarnabasDK> what version of ubuntu, can you use the backup functionality built into the OS?
[21:13] <Psil0Cybin> BarnabasDK, well it was a 12.04 , i moved to 14.04
[21:13] <Psil0Cybin> but it has plenty of errors i am scared of doing anything by the GUI panels
[21:13] <Psil0Cybin> because who knows if it will actually copy or create more errors...
[21:14] <Psil0Cybin> i may try 3 or 4 diff methods of backing up just to make sure i do not lose my information
[21:25] <bosnjak> I seem to have some Nepomuk components installed. Can I remove all of this, and how can I see what apps will stop functioning? Are there regular dependencies that will be shown?
[21:33] <xebra> hi, when I connect to a remote server with Thunar (ftp or sftp), I find I cannot change file permissions, or in the case of ftp the file owner is wrong (always "root"). Anyone know anything about this problem/bug/etc.? Thanks
[22:07] <nomic> whats with this UEFI stuff if i get a laptop
[22:08] <nomic> i do not want windows 8 period.    will it be amazingly difficult to get the crud off a BRAND NEW laptop ... high spec , say lenovo -- and put xubuntu onto it
[22:11] <Dragon64> Nomic, Its not real difficult, you will need to turn off the uefi in the bios and make sure boot partition is set correctly, not difficult once you know what you are doingf
[22:12] <nomic>  thought so .. bios facility
[22:12] <Dragon64> yeah, you'll have to swith the uefi to legacy mode
[22:12] <nomic> thanks
[22:12] <Dragon64> np
[22:13] <nomic> then i send off to the manufacturer saying IO do not use windows -- pls refund me tyvm
[22:13] <nomic> not paying the tax again
[22:13] <nomic> musta written off 10 pristine copies of the crud
[22:13] <nomic> microsoft must owe me £500
[22:13] <Dragon64> your best bet is to delete the partitions and make sure that the boot partition is not set to the fancy partition type
[22:13] <nomic> that will not happen again
[22:13] <Dragon64> make sure its msdos
[22:13] <nomic> recovery?
[22:13] <Dragon64> partition
[22:13] <nomic> i tend to just obliterate whats already there
[22:13] <Dragon64> the boot partition
[22:14] <Dragon64> good, when you recreate select msdos type partition
[22:14] <Dragon64> then format as usual
[22:14] <xubuntu025> Hey there, im having issues trying to install xubuntu 14.04
[22:14] <Dragon64> just did that to a new hp laptop
[22:14] <nomic> cool
[22:14] <nomic> i have no desire to see windows 8
[22:15] <Dragon64> whats happening Xubuntu25?
[22:15] <nomic> hes having issues trying to install xubuntu 14.04
[22:15] <Dragon64> thanks nomic
[22:15] <Dragon64> :P
[22:16] <Dragon64> haha I had windows 8 for a wek and gave a system to my wife, cause I was too lay to bother
[22:16] <nomic> i get more than 2x problems with a 6 year old laptop & I start thinking its like the space station, mir .. they started seeing screws floating  around and were wondering where they came from ... more and more things started breaking down
[22:16] <Dragon64> Ironically 3 months later she had so many virus I reformated and installed xubuntu. she loves it
[22:17] <Dragon64> hahaha
[22:17] <nomic> those viruse are 'apps'
[22:17] <xubuntu944> hey, whenever I try to install xubuntu it gives me the message that it could not mount after erase disk option is taken. any ide why
[22:17] <Dragon64> nice this now, our whole house is ubuntu basedso backups are a breeze
[22:18] <Dragon64> Xubuntu25: what type of a system you installing his on?
[22:19] <xubuntu944> i3 12gb ddr3 gtx 550ti sb recon. installing on a 500gb drive freshly wiped.
[22:20] <xubuntu944> tbh nothing seems to want to install
[22:20] <Dragon64> is this one of those uefi systems from a manufacturer or somthing you assembled yourself?
[22:20] <xubuntu944> Home build, uefi is off, set to IDE mode
[22:21] <Dragon64> ok, did you remove the partitions first or try and do it all through the installer?
[22:22] <xubuntu944> I wiped my windows install out and tried installing on unused space, but no dice regardless. Even tried making my own ext4 and swap to no avail
[22:23] <Dragon64> yeah it is critical on these systems to remove all the partitions and re-partition.
[22:23] <Dragon64> let me see if i can find some good instructions
[22:24] <Dragon64> uefi expects a gpt partition not msdos
[22:24] <Dragon64> gpt partition is probly giving you issues
[22:24] <xubuntu944> it just says its creating ext4 file system for / in partition #1
[22:24] <xubuntu944> FOREVER
[22:25] <xubuntu944> :-/
[22:25] <Dragon64> yeah get yourself gparted live cd and remove all partitions and recreate them. Make sure that the boot partition is msdos style, not gpt
[22:25] <Dragon64> the re-try the install
[22:26] <xubuntu944> sounds like a smart plan. ty
[22:26] <Dragon64> http://gparted.org/livecd.php
[22:48] <xubuntu944> what sizes should i make them?