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| html | hi | 07:54 |
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| mfa298 | jamespage: looks like success. I used the ceph tool to remove the mon and osd in ceph and removed the node from maas. Then added it back into maas and used juju add-unit and it seems to have setup the monitor. I'm not sure it's got the OSD yet but that could be due to bad gpt partition table. | 10:31 |
| mfa298 | next bit will be waiting for it to come up properly (currently has clock skew) and for the osd's to rebalance then I'll try the next node. | 10:32 |
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| lazyPower_ | natefinch: wrt: reviewboard - whats the question being proposed? teh charm has been accepted to the store. https://jujucharms.com/precise/reviewboard-1 | 14:29 |
| natefinch | lazyPower_: sorry, I should have given more context. we're trying to set it up for use with juju core and github, with a plugin so we can log in with our github usernames. | 14:40 |
| lazyPower_ | natefinch: ah ok. I thought it was with relation to teh service not having been charmed yet or something. *hattip* ok glad its nothing thats pending on ~charmers | 14:41 |
| natefinch | lazyPower_: thanks for pointing out my email was too vague :) | 14:42 |
| mattyw | stokachu, ping? | 14:54 |
| stokachu | mattyw, hey | 15:06 |
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| zirpu | is it possible to 'expose' a service to a specific IP or set of IP addresses? | 17:16 |
| zirpu | or is that a planned feature? (i haven't search the issues list yet.) | 17:16 |
| sarnold | zirpu: I think the solution would be preparing a subordinate service that runs appropriate ufw or iptables commands yourself; the different cloud providers have different granularities on their "security groups" | 17:36 |
| natefinch | jcastro, marcoceppi: do you guys have time to talk about charmer pain points today? | 17:37 |
| zirpu | sarnold: agreed. i'd already thought about that. just was hoping it was included as a possible parameter to 'expose'. | 17:37 |
| sarnold | zirpu: agreed :) | 17:38 |
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| marcoceppi | natefinch: I do! | 17:58 |
| natefinch | marcoceppi: for a minute I thought you guys didn't have any complaints, and I was just going to stay home for the rest of the week :) | 17:59 |
| natefinch | ....the joke is funnier when you don't work from home :/ | 18:00 |
| marcoceppi | natefinch: hah, you wish. was otp | 18:00 |
| marcoceppi | natefinch: what you want to know? | 18:00 |
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| natefinch | marcoceppi: have you seen this: https://docs.google.com/a/canonical.com/spreadsheets/d/1ZC76hkbxDF7idcSbU9DI-homfom224q484HOLNFSIM8/edit#gid=0 | 18:03 |
| marcoceppi | natefinch: not yet | 18:03 |
| natefinch | marcoceppi: take a look, let me know what you think about the charmer stuff... my team will be working on those. Mostly, I need details on how you'd like it to work. | 18:05 |
| ayr-ton | Guys, is possible to make a charm that deploy and setup other charms? | 18:05 |
| natefinch | marcoceppi: meeting time for me | 18:05 |
| marcoceppi | ayr-ton: technically, yes, but it's not a very clean and pretty thing | 18:05 |
| marcoceppi | natefinch: want me to just dump them here? or email? or? | 18:06 |
| ayr-ton | marcoceppi, What is the best practice for do something like this? For example, if I want to setup a jenkins master, 4 runners, a gitlab server, a sonarquobe and integrate this. Like, calling a script with all the steps. | 18:07 |
| natefinch | marcoceppi: let's hang out later today if you have time | 18:07 |
| ayr-ton | Like, I want to setup this enviroment in my development machine, with a script. And then, push this to another juju environment. | 18:08 |
| marcoceppi | natefinch: i have time for this | 18:09 |
| marcoceppi | ayr-ton: that's a bundle | 18:09 |
| ayr-ton | marcoceppi, hmmm | 18:09 |
| marcoceppi | ayr-ton: a bundle is a static representation of a deployment with configuration and relations coded in | 18:09 |
| natefinch | marcoceppi: cool... in a meeting for the next 30-60mins but any time after until 5 is cool | 18:10 |
| marcoceppi | natefinch: I've got a standup at 3p, I'll ping after that | 18:10 |
| ayr-ton | marcoceppi, this: https://juju.ubuntu.com/docs/charms-bundles.html? | 18:10 |
| marcoceppi | ayr-ton: yeah, that's the doc page, I'll link you to a few examples too. | 18:10 |
| marcoceppi | ayr-ton: http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~maarten-ectors/charms/bundles/presto/bundle/view/head:/bundles.yaml is an example and here's a bunch more: https://code.launchpad.net/charms/bundles | 18:12 |
| ayr-ton | marcoceppi, thank you very much (: It is enough to get started. | 18:12 |
| jcastro | natefinch, marcoceppi, let's hop on a G+ | 18:14 |
| marcoceppi | jcastro: he's in a meeting, we should sync post-our-daily | 18:14 |
| jcastro | marcoceppi, that link nate showed you is the addition of all the feedback from our team, plus others. | 18:14 |
| marcoceppi | jcastro: yeah, it's awesome | 18:15 |
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| sebas5384 | uhuuu! https://bugs.launchpad.net/charms/+bug/1315428 "fix commited" | 18:29 |
| mup | Bug #1315428: Review needed: Drupal Charm <drupal> <Juju Charms Collection:Fix Committed by sebas5384> <https://launchpad.net/bugs/1315428> | 18:29 |
| sebas5384 | what that means? :P | 18:29 |
| marcoceppi | sebas5384: it changes nothing, justsome testing with the new review queue | 18:33 |
| sebas5384 | ahhh :( | 18:37 |
| sebas5384 | hehe | 18:37 |
| sebas5384 | marcoceppi:I run to the charm store to see if the charm was recommended hehe | 18:37 |
| marcoceppi | sebas5384: fix released is when it gets promulgated | 18:46 |
| sebas5384 | ahhh ok marcoceppi thanks :) | 18:59 |
| lazyPower | hey hatch - http://blog.dasroot.net/the-power-of-community-charming/ | 19:05 |
| hatch | loooking | 19:05 |
| hatch | your blog looks so good | 19:06 |
| lazyPower | O_o | 19:07 |
| lazyPower | thanks | 19:07 |
| sebas5384 | awesome post hatch :) | 19:16 |
| sebas5384 | wops! | 19:17 |
| sebas5384 | lazyPower: sorry now that i sow it was yours hehe | 19:17 |
| hatch | haha THANKS | 19:18 |
| hatch | :P | 19:18 |
| lazyPower | Thanks :D | 19:20 |
| lazyPower | if you dont mind, syndicate that. We need to get the word out about personal namespaces being the recommended path for starting - i've got a todo item to updat the docs as well | 19:20 |
| lazyPower | We should see that land sometime by early next week. | 19:20 |
| marcoceppi | yo natefinch | 19:23 |
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| natefinch | marcoceppi: sorry, stepped out for a bit. Want to talk now? | 19:48 |
| marcoceppi | natefinch: yeah jcastro ^^ | 19:54 |
| jcastro | I have a call, but pass me the URL | 19:54 |
| jcastro | I'll join after | 19:54 |
| natefinch | marcoceppi: https://plus.google.com/hangouts/_/canonical.com/moonstone?authuser=1 | 19:56 |
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| MrDan | Hi to all. Can anyone help me get my head wrapped around the differences between Salt and Juju? | 22:12 |
| MrDan | Are they simply two different approaches to the same problem, or are the complementary tools. I'm obviously a noob. | 22:15 |
| thumper | MrDan: I'm not really familiar with salt | 22:32 |
| thumper | MrDan: juju is not just about setting up environments, but also making sure the different services communicate | 22:32 |
| thumper | and keep communicating as things change | 22:32 |
| MrDan | thumper: my understanding is that Saltstack has been adopted by LinkedIn among other large sites. | 22:39 |
| MrDan | thanks for the reply, though. | 22:39 |
| thumper | MrDan: sure, there are many users of all the deployment tools | 22:43 |
| MrDan | thumper: One of the differences I see from just a very cursory reading of Salt - it provides remote execution management. Am I correct in thinking this might make a good complement for Juju? | 22:52 |
| thumper | MrDan: juju has some now, and gaining more with actions | 22:53 |
| MrDan | Ah. Interesting. | 22:53 |
| MrDan | I just came across the "salt-master" charm. Looks like I need to do some more digging. | 22:54 |
| MrDan | thanks for the feedback. | 22:55 |
| MrDan | One small rant about this space. The cheeky vocabulary used by tools like Chef, Puppet, Salt, etc.... is more hurdle than help (IMHO). | 23:00 |
| thumper | cheeky? | 23:00 |
| MrDan | As an example, since I've been talking about Salt, it has "minions", "pillars", "grains", etc.... | 23:03 |
| MrDan | More thematic than helpful. | 23:03 |
| MrDan | maybe "cheeky" is the wrong work. | 23:03 |
| MrDan | *word | 23:03 |
| lazyPower | MrDan: Salt is very much a config management toolchain. Juju is a layer above that | 23:12 |
| lazyPower | juju can orchestrate a salt stack, and push salt to the limits of its capabilities by providing information outside of salt that juju then plugs into a remote (salt, chef, bash, python, puppet, etc) CM framework to perform operations. | 23:12 |
| lazyPower | Juju is like the all powerful all knowing oracle of your deployment infrastructure | 23:12 |
| lazyPower | and it makes things dead simple when you combine that with the simplicity of the Juju GUI | 23:13 |
| lazyPower | so to think of Juju as just config management of machines is only the first step, its also responsible for scaling, relations between services in a SOA approach, and has some capacity to do more with the use of juju-run and well scripted tasks. | 23:13 |
| MrDan | lazyPower: that's helpful. | 23:15 |
| lazyPower | MrDan: a bit wordy in terms of adverbs - but juju really is an amazing tool with what it brings to the table when you consume well written charms. | 23:16 |
| lazyPower | are there any specific questions you have about juju that I may be able to answer for you? | 23:16 |
| MrDan | Unfortunately, my inquiry is still at the forest level. I have a lot more digging to do, but am impressed with the responsiveness of this group. | 23:19 |
| lazyPower | We try to be. Community is our biggest winner when you go with juju - the charm store is an amalgamation of a community of effort. | 23:21 |
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