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| ovidiu-florin | how does qapt output the package install process in a konsole like view? does it use kdialog? | 07:02 |
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| Riddell | ScottK: right I get that but what are the use cases these days beyond skype for 32 bit on 64 bit? presumably there's other proprietary software people want to run in 32bit mode? | 07:58 |
| Riddell | I can't recrate the crash in bug 1352397 | 08:01 |
| ubottu | bug 1352397 in libkscreen (Ubuntu Trusty) "Please update to libkscreen 1.0.5" [Undecided,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1352397 | 08:01 |
| Riddell | ... | 08:01 |
| Riddell | :) | 08:01 |
| Riddell | worth reading kevin kofler's reply to my packaging blog post, they seem to have much the same issues https://blogs.kde.org/2014/08/13/upstream-and-downstream-why-packaging-takes-time#new | 08:15 |
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| Riddell | apachelogger: so.. horizontal volume controls, why why? the metaphone is clearly higher and lower volume meaning it should be vertical! | 09:02 |
| * bookzilla sits down to watch the flame-war | 09:05 | |
| bookzilla | except no harald exists yet | 09:05 |
| Riddell | go and wake him up with a very high volume so demonstrate why volume is a vertical concept | 09:05 |
| bookzilla | he was investigating how to have sex in outer space when I went to bed | 09:05 |
| bookzilla | and there was more bad wine in the bottle | 09:06 |
| bookzilla | Riddell: I'm not sure where his room is | 09:06 |
| bookzilla | perhaps I should just parade up and down the halls playing .....Tool, perhaps? | 09:06 |
| bookzilla | this would make me many friends, I'm thinking | 09:07 |
| Riddell | get some pans from the kitchen and hit them with a variety of spoons | 09:09 |
| Riddell | ScottK: bug 1308931 ready for SRU promotion | 09:09 |
| ubottu | bug 1308931 in ubiquity (Ubuntu Trusty) "[KDE] Ubiquity side bar is broken on the initial page for the KDE UI " [Undecided,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1308931 | 09:09 |
| Riddell | god that one took ages :( | 09:09 |
| kubotu | feed branches had 25 updates, showing the latest 6 | 09:33 |
| Riddell | ScottK: bug 1352397 for SRU approval | 09:37 |
| ubottu | bug 1352397 in libkscreen (Ubuntu Trusty) "Please update to libkscreen 1.0.5" [Undecided,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1352397 | 09:37 |
| kdeuser56 | does the kubuntu-next iso work for anyone in virtualbox? | 10:29 |
| Riddell | not tried today, what happens kdeuser56? | 10:29 |
| Riddell | I do have a local problem with sddm so it could be that if you just get a screen with a cursor and nothing else | 10:30 |
| kdeuser56 | Riddell: yesterdays iso simply only shows colored lines | 10:30 |
| kubotu | feed branches had 25 updates, showing the latest 6 | 10:33 |
| Riddell | well that could mean anything :( | 10:37 |
| Riddell | but I'm going to blame sddm | 10:37 |
| kdeuser56 | Riddell: I'll try to investiage ... | 10:38 |
| kdeuser56 | Riddell: do you know where the svg's of the ticks are stored, when you tick something in plasma, like in networkmanager? they do not seem to be in /usr/share/plasma/desktoptheme | 10:39 |
| Riddell | kdeuser56: no idea sorry you'd need to ask in #plasma I guess | 10:39 |
| kdeuser56 | Riddell: splash screen shows, then the aspect ration changes and only colored lines | 10:53 |
| kdeuser56 | Riddell: 3d enabled, enough ram, two cpus ... so I can't do more about it | 10:53 |
| kdeuser56 | Riddell: screenshot: http://tinypic.com/r/j8lce9/8 | 10:55 |
| Riddell | hmm so probably not sddm | 10:57 |
| Riddell | that's spooky, maybe X is crashing | 10:57 |
| jmux | kdeuser56: Do you have the virtualbox vM tools installed in the vm? The std VGA emulation of VBox is very basic. | 11:20 |
| kdeuser56 | jmux: which tools? I do not want to use proprietary stuff | 11:20 |
| jmux | We always recompile vbox for the latest HWE, so it runs a linux with HWE flawlessly | 11:21 |
| kdeuser56 | jmux: which tools do you mean? | 11:21 |
| jmux | kdeuser56: virtualbox-guest-additions | 11:22 |
| kdeuser56 | jmux: that would have to be installed inside the vm ... how would I do that if I do not get any sensible ui? | 11:22 |
| jmux | kdeuser56: ah - no - the current package name is virtualbox-guest-utils | 11:23 |
| BluesKaj | Hiyas all | 11:23 |
| jmux | kdeuser56: well - you could use ssh or select it during the installation. | 11:24 |
| kdeuser56 | jmux: virtualbox-guest-utils is for non x11 guests .... | 11:25 |
| kdeuser56 | jmux: https://packages.debian.org/sid/virtualbox-guest-utils | 11:25 |
| jmux | kdeuser56: ok - then go with virtualbox-guest-x11 ;-) | 11:26 |
| shadeslayer_ | I'm full of food | 11:48 |
| shadeslayer_ | so full | 11:48 |
| shadeslayer_ | I want to sleep | 11:48 |
| Riddell | here have a free beer | 11:49 |
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| Riddell | turns out the free beer is 0% alcohol so you can have it at lunch | 11:49 |
| shadeslayer_ | is it? | 11:49 |
| Riddell | yep, it tastes mildy better than Estrella | 11:49 |
| shadeslayer_ | most certainly doesn't feel like 0% alcohol last night | 11:50 |
| Riddell | yofel: ooh we're not duplicating work are we? | 11:50 |
| yofel | nope, thankfully kubotu does the status information nowadays ^^ | 11:51 |
| Riddell | good good | 11:52 |
| yofel | Riddell: on that note: are you working on kdepim? If not I'll drop the 2 revert patches that shouldn't be there anymore | 11:52 |
| yofel | ah, stuff didn't even build yet, good | 11:53 |
| yofel | shadeslayer_: actually, do you remember why you added those to utopic? They were supposed to be trusty-only | 11:55 |
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| shadeslayer_ | yofel: where be patch page | 11:55 |
| Riddell | yofel: not looked at kdepim | 11:55 |
| yofel | on your work computer like your script :P | 11:55 |
| shadeslayer_ | :P | 11:56 |
| shadeslayer_ | hm | 11:56 |
| yofel | shadeslayer_: or well, they are on http://yofel.dyndns.org/ext/patches/ubuntu-patch-status.html | 11:56 |
| shadeslayer_ | yeah | 11:56 |
| shadeslayer_ | history ftw | 11:56 |
| yofel | anyway, I'll drop them unless you have good reason to keep them | 11:57 |
| shadeslayer_ | not really | 11:58 |
| yofel | FWIW, that status page is what made remember them in the first place, so good work :P | 11:58 |
| shadeslayer_ | ^_^ | 11:58 |
| santa | Riddell: I'm going to lunch soon, but I think I will be here this afternoon, if you have some minutes then we could talk a bit about what you wrote in your blog and specially about the shared git repository | 11:59 |
| santa | note that siduction's kde packaging has kubuntus packaging as upstream and I made some custom changes | 12:00 |
| Riddell | santa: sure | 12:00 |
| santa | ok | 12:01 |
| santa | what you are trying to do with the shared git repository:"been there done that" I have my own solution to deal with you (=kubuntu) as upstream and the way it works it would work even if you were extremely uncooperative with me (which is not the case fortunately) | 12:04 |
| santa | see you this afternoon | 12:04 |
| ScottK | Riddell: libkscreen is still verification needed: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libkscreen/+bug/1352397 | 12:09 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 1352397 in libkscreen (Ubuntu Trusty) "Please update to libkscreen 1.0.5" [Undecided,Fix committed] | 12:09 |
| apachelogger | yofel: there's no kdelibs on your status page btw | 12:10 |
| apachelogger | noticed last night | 12:10 |
| shadeslayer_ | ^^ | 12:10 |
| Riddell | ScottK: fixed | 12:11 |
| yofel | because I piped the output of the utopic package list into the script, which means it searched for kde4libs and kde-workspace (and others) aren't even on that list | 12:11 |
| ScottK | OK. | 12:11 |
| yofel | shadeslayer_'s script (which is in barca) does that right | 12:12 |
| yofel | (I assume) | 12:12 |
| shadeslayer_ | yes | 12:12 |
| shadeslayer_ | http://people.ubuntu.com/~rohangarg/ubuntu-patch-status.html | 12:12 |
| ScottK | Riddell: released. | 12:13 |
| Riddell | great, thanks | 12:14 |
| shadeslayer_ | did I mention I'm sleepy | 12:16 |
| shadeslayer_ | so sleepy | 12:16 |
| ScottK | Hot too? | 12:16 |
| Riddell | too much beer? | 12:16 |
| shadeslayer_ | ScottK: hah no | 12:16 |
| shadeslayer_ | swiss food | 12:17 |
| shadeslayer_ | I can stay here forever | 12:17 |
| shadeslayer_ | mountains, food, awesomeness | 12:17 |
| shadeslayer_ | except the internet | 12:17 |
| shadeslayer_ | the internet is shit | 12:17 |
| Riddell | it's a bit like barcelona but without the internet? | 12:19 |
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| * Riddell looking at phonon | 12:30 | |
| Riddell | apachelogger: new phonon in utopic, what are your thoughts on where it should be backported? | 13:08 |
| yofel | Riddell: do we have a TODO list for discussion at Akademy yet? | 13:08 |
| apachelogger | Riddell: needs SRU imo | 13:09 |
| Riddell | hmm.. I started it | 13:09 |
| Riddell | yofel: https://notes.kde.org/p/kubuntu-akademy | 13:09 |
| Riddell | not much on it | 13:09 |
| Riddell | apachelogger: on what grounds? are there known bugs | 13:09 |
| Riddell | ? | 13:09 |
| yofel | thanks | 13:09 |
| apachelogger | Riddell: all the ones that I fixed | 13:10 |
| apachelogger | and yes there are known bugs in whatever snapshot we had in trusty | 13:10 |
| apachelogger | phonon and phonon-vlc even are basically stable updates | 13:10 |
| apachelogger | no features at all | 13:10 |
| Riddell | yep | 13:13 |
| Riddell | ok I'll try and do that and see what ~ubuntu-sru say | 13:13 |
| apachelogger | cheers | 13:13 |
| allee | Riddell: you asked in #plasma ;-) Not much change lately. I've played/tested digikam: only the management functions, not the editor, not the kipi-plugins) not problem yet. | 14:04 |
| allee | Riddell: the few necessary changes to push to my launchpad account (linked from bugreport too) | 14:05 |
| Riddell | allee: let me know when I need to look/upload | 14:07 |
| allee | When you check the backlog of this channel you see that I've tried to figure out why kdepimlibs is not enabled. I remember that you could associate a tag with an addressbook. Now no menu entry :-( | 14:07 |
| allee | Riddell: will do so | 14:07 |
| allee | Riddell: a look never hurts. Maybe you spot easily stuff that also need to be done | 14:08 |
| Riddell | ovidiu-florin: hi? | 14:17 |
| Riddell | ovidiu-florin: silent phone call? | 14:17 |
| apachelogger | bookzilla: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CSe38dzJYkYf | 14:18 |
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| bookzilla | excellent | 14:26 |
| ovidiu-florin | Riddell: I'll send that mail after today's meeting, to see first how things go | 14:37 |
| ovidiu-florin | can you recommend me any other people that would be right for this? | 14:38 |
| Riddell | ovidiu-florin: I'd post to the kde-community list | 14:38 |
| ovidiu-florin | Riddell: it will be in 17-19 Oct. | 14:38 |
| ovidiu-florin | aha | 14:39 |
| ovidiu-florin | ok | 14:39 |
| ovidiu-florin | thanks | 14:39 |
| Riddell | I've done this sort of thing with [ade] before in nigeria and various people in india | 14:39 |
| ovidiu-florin | unfourtanetly, I don't think KDE promotion won't be one of the main activities. But I'd like for it to be, and I'll do I'll I can to achieve this. | 14:41 |
| Riddell | mostly it's a case of pinging anyone you can to see if they'll be interested | 14:41 |
| ovidiu-florin | the main point of interest is software development and IT startups | 14:41 |
| Riddell | but first you need to say what the event is, what's it called, what's the topics, what's the format etc | 14:42 |
| ovidiu-florin | yeah, but I only know about 3 people, that I think will be right for the job, people that I've seen that make lot's of KDE promo online | 14:42 |
| ovidiu-florin | Riddell: yes, all those will be set in time, currenlty they are just a sketch | 14:43 |
| ovidiu-florin | todays meeting should fill in a lot of that sketch | 14:43 |
| Riddell | two months before the event is leaving it tight if you don't even know what sort of event it is you want | 14:44 |
| ovidiu-florin | it is know, just not by me. I mean I don't know all the details yet | 14:44 |
| ovidiu-florin | I'm not the main organizer | 14:45 |
| ovidiu-florin | I'll most likely be the main organizer of the OpenSource part | 14:45 |
| ovidiu-florin | I hope | 14:45 |
| ovidiu-florin | it is known* | 14:46 |
| Riddell | is there a venue? what sort of venue? is there a website? are there sponsors? will entrace be free or cost money? lots of questions :) | 14:46 |
| Riddell | hmm libokularcore has an soversion change | 14:48 |
| apachelogger | bookzilla: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=26Uxgb-Boh4 | 14:49 |
| ovidiu-florin | Riddell: let me write those down | 14:49 |
| Riddell | will speakers get stuff like a hotel and meals sorted for them? | 14:54 |
| Riddell | will speakers get a free canoe hire to go on the danube? | 14:54 |
| Riddell | all these questions | 14:55 |
| ovidiu-florin | Riddell: keep them comming (the questions) | 14:55 |
| bookzilla | the latter question being the most important, obviously | 14:55 |
| ovidiu-florin | Riddell: the Danube is pretty far from where the event will take place | 14:56 |
| Riddell | is there easy travel to get there? | 14:57 |
| ovidiu-florin | Timișoara, Romania | 14:57 |
| ovidiu-florin | we have an international airport here | 14:57 |
| Riddell | who's the audience? at promo type conferences I've done before in canary islands, india and nigeria there's a university group that supplies the majority of the audience so people are guaranteed | 14:57 |
| Riddell | ScottK: lintian moans about pykde4 python3-pykde4: python-script-but-no-python-dep usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/PyQt4/uic/pykdeuic4.py | 15:00 |
| Riddell | know anything about that? | 15:00 |
| Riddell | presumably it needs the #! line changed to python3 | 15:00 |
| ScottK | Does that have a python shebang? | 15:00 |
| ScottK | Yes. | 15:00 |
| ScottK | Not sure why the doesn't get rewritten. | 15:02 |
| * Riddell takes off for the evening | 15:08 | |
| Riddell | leaving smokeqt to be fixed some other time | 15:09 |
| bookzilla | how can you leave for the evening when it is afternoon here in Switzerland | 15:17 |
| bookzilla | Riddell: I would like us to offer the Fira font recommended by Eike Hein: https://github.com/mozilla/Fira | 15:18 |
| bookzilla | fedora already offers it and I'm jealous | 15:18 |
| yofel | @§(§/&"/("§=))$) upstart | 15:33 |
| yofel | *sigh* | 15:33 |
| yofel | could someone with trusty please run this: | 15:39 |
| yofel | qdbus com.ubuntu.Upstart /com/ubuntu/Upstart com.ubuntu.Upstart0_6.version | 15:39 |
| yofel | just curious | 15:39 |
| apachelogger | bookzilla: ^ | 15:41 |
| bookzilla | $ qdbus com.ubuntu.Upstart /com/ubuntu/Upstart com.ubuntu.Upstart0_6.version | 15:42 |
| bookzilla | init (upstart 1.12.1) | 15:42 |
| yofel | @"§$IJRR§I | 15:42 |
| yofel | thanks valorie | 15:42 |
| yofel | so I *again* don't have suspend | 15:43 |
| yofel | guess why | 15:43 |
| yofel | $ qdbus com.ubuntu.Upstart /com/ubuntu/Upstart com.ubuntu.Upstart0_6.version | 15:43 |
| yofel | upstart 1.13.1 | 15:43 |
| yofel | apachelogger: do you have a better idea than this? | 15:43 |
| yofel | - QRegExp exp("init \\(upstart ([0-9.]+)\\)"); | 15:43 |
| yofel | + QRegExp exp("(?:init \\()?upstart ([0-9.]+)(?:\\))?"); | 15:43 |
| apachelogger | yofel: didn't we patch that? | 15:45 |
| yofel | we patched the number parsing, now the "init(...)" stuff is gone | 15:45 |
| yofel | and we use excactMatch() for the pattern | 15:45 |
| yofel | *exact | 15:46 |
| lordievader | Good afternoon. | 15:51 |
| yofel | apachelogger: with context: http://paste.kde.org/pmviozowt - tested with http://paste.kde.org/pqhltg14m which prints true. | 15:55 |
| yofel | If you don't come up with something better I'll throw it up on RB later | 15:55 |
| apachelogger | yofel: ....................................... | 16:05 |
| apachelogger | yofel: regex probably is the way to go | 16:06 |
| ovidiu-florin | open folder from downloads in firefox still broken | 16:06 |
| ovidiu-florin | in kubuntu 14.04 | 16:06 |
| shadeslayer_ | most curious | 16:41 |
| shadeslayer_ | Service 'com.ubuntu.Upstart' does not exist. | 16:41 |
| debfx | probably got eaten by systemd | 16:54 |
| debfx | https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-bZId5j2jREQ/U-vlysklvCI/AAAAAAAACrA/B4JggkVJi38/w426-h284/bd0fb252416206158627fb0b1bff9b4779dca13f.gif | 16:54 |
| debfx | ;) | 16:54 |
| yofel | lol | 16:55 |
| yofel | apachelogger: https://git.reviewboard.kde.org/r/119791/ | 18:15 |
| santa | hi Riddell | 18:24 |
| santa | I have been preparing a reply to your post | 18:24 |
| santa | additionally I would like to ask you a couple of things: what about splitting the monolithic script to prepare new released into smaller ones? | 18:26 |
| santa | for instance I have a separace script to bump all the build depends and having it separated might work better to shared them among kubuntu debian and siduction | 18:27 |
| santa | also I found that approach easier to debug | 18:28 |
| shadeslayer_ | apachelogger: http://imgur.com/0tXiQ20 | 19:36 |
| shadeslayer_ | apachelogger: http://192.168.1.59:8000/IMG_20140814_152459.jpg | 19:39 |
| yofel | shadeslayer_: getting into black and white photography? ^^ | 19:46 |
| bookzilla | I <3 B&W film, and working in a darkroom | 19:48 |
| bookzilla | but no darkroom access any more | 19:48 |
| yofel | hm, after reading kevin and raymond's responses to the packaging post I do wonder what happened to updating bluez... | 19:48 |
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| soee | gimmp using ~850 mb for single file editing .. not good :| | 20:02 |
| jmux | Should kubuntu-backports for trusty contain 4:4.13.97? Thought that would be in kubuntu backports beta... | 20:54 |
| yofel | jmux: it shouldn't, jr copied it to the wrong archive, but with 4.14.0 imminent we rather fixed all issues instead of deleting it | 21:08 |
| soee | uhm drkonqi crashes when i want to raport a bug | 21:22 |
| apachelogger | shadeslayer_: ^ | 21:28 |
| shadeslayer_ | that's a feature | 21:35 |
| shadeslayer_ | not a bug | 21:35 |
| shadeslayer_ | developers hate bugs | 21:35 |
| soee | :) | 21:35 |
| soee | btw is there some translation server for KDE ? | 21:36 |
| soee | i see some/ a lot of / missing translations | 21:36 |
| soee | i would like to add some but dont know where -.- | 21:37 |
| shadeslayer_ | soee: plasma 5? | 21:39 |
| soee | shadeslayer_: crash / translations ? | 21:39 |
| shadeslayer_ | crash | 21:40 |
| soee | shadeslayer_: yes, though i wonder if it might be related to the crash type i want to report -> the System Settings -> Multimedia | 21:40 |
| apachelogger | soee: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/vlc/+bug/1328466 | 21:58 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 1328466 in vlc (Ubuntu) "vlc package should refresh plugins cache after installing" [Undecided,Confirmed] | 21:58 |
| apachelogger | kameloso^^^^^^^^: can you please fix your connection | 21:58 |
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