=== who_da_fly is now known as superfly [07:02] how does qapt output the package install process in a konsole like view? does it use kdialog? === serverhamster is now known as alvin === Guest75668 is now known as wgrant === wgrant is now known as Guest89446 === Guest89446 is now known as wgrant [07:58] ScottK: right I get that but what are the use cases these days beyond skype for 32 bit on 64 bit? presumably there's other proprietary software people want to run in 32bit mode? [08:01] I can't recrate the crash in bug 1352397 [08:01] bug 1352397 in libkscreen (Ubuntu Trusty) "Please update to libkscreen 1.0.5" [Undecided,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1352397 [08:01] ... [08:01] :) [08:15] worth reading kevin kofler's reply to my packaging blog post, they seem to have much the same issues https://blogs.kde.org/2014/08/13/upstream-and-downstream-why-packaging-takes-time#new === ikonia_ is now known as ikonia === valorie is now known as bookzilla [09:02] apachelogger: so.. horizontal volume controls, why why? the metaphone is clearly higher and lower volume meaning it should be vertical! [09:05] * bookzilla sits down to watch the flame-war [09:05] except no harald exists yet [09:05] go and wake him up with a very high volume so demonstrate why volume is a vertical concept [09:05] he was investigating how to have sex in outer space when I went to bed [09:06] and there was more bad wine in the bottle [09:06] Riddell: I'm not sure where his room is [09:06] perhaps I should just parade up and down the halls playing .....Tool, perhaps? [09:07] this would make me many friends, I'm thinking [09:09] get some pans from the kitchen and hit them with a variety of spoons [09:09] ScottK: bug 1308931 ready for SRU promotion [09:09] bug 1308931 in ubiquity (Ubuntu Trusty) "[KDE] Ubiquity side bar is broken on the initial page for the KDE UI " [Undecided,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1308931 [09:09] god that one took ages :( [09:33] feed branches had 25 updates, showing the latest 6 [09:37] ScottK: bug 1352397 for SRU approval [09:37] bug 1352397 in libkscreen (Ubuntu Trusty) "Please update to libkscreen 1.0.5" [Undecided,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1352397 [10:29] does the kubuntu-next iso work for anyone in virtualbox? [10:29] not tried today, what happens kdeuser56? [10:30] I do have a local problem with sddm so it could be that if you just get a screen with a cursor and nothing else [10:30] Riddell: yesterdays iso simply only shows colored lines [10:33] feed branches had 25 updates, showing the latest 6 [10:37] well that could mean anything :( [10:37] but I'm going to blame sddm [10:38] Riddell: I'll try to investiage ... [10:39] Riddell: do you know where the svg's of the ticks are stored, when you tick something in plasma, like in networkmanager? they do not seem to be in /usr/share/plasma/desktoptheme [10:39] kdeuser56: no idea sorry you'd need to ask in #plasma I guess [10:53] Riddell: splash screen shows, then the aspect ration changes and only colored lines [10:53] Riddell: 3d enabled, enough ram, two cpus ... so I can't do more about it [10:55] Riddell: screenshot: http://tinypic.com/r/j8lce9/8 [10:57] hmm so probably not sddm [10:57] that's spooky, maybe X is crashing [11:20] kdeuser56: Do you have the virtualbox vM tools installed in the vm? The std VGA emulation of VBox is very basic. [11:20] jmux: which tools? I do not want to use proprietary stuff [11:21] We always recompile vbox for the latest HWE, so it runs a linux with HWE flawlessly [11:21] jmux: which tools do you mean? [11:22] kdeuser56: virtualbox-guest-additions [11:22] jmux: that would have to be installed inside the vm ... how would I do that if I do not get any sensible ui? [11:23] kdeuser56: ah - no - the current package name is virtualbox-guest-utils [11:23] Hiyas all [11:24] kdeuser56: well - you could use ssh or select it during the installation. [11:25] jmux: virtualbox-guest-utils is for non x11 guests .... [11:25] jmux: https://packages.debian.org/sid/virtualbox-guest-utils [11:26] kdeuser56: ok - then go with virtualbox-guest-x11 ;-) [11:48] I'm full of food [11:48] so full [11:48] I want to sleep [11:49] here have a free beer === yofel changed the topic of #kubuntu-devel to: Kubuntu - Octopii Fan Club | https://trello.com/kubuntu | Kubuntu 5 Test ISO http://goo.gl/nn2Zej | https://notes.kde.org/p/kubuntu-ninjas - 4.14.0 U: WIP [11:49] turns out the free beer is 0% alcohol so you can have it at lunch [11:49] is it? [11:49] yep, it tastes mildy better than Estrella [11:50] most certainly doesn't feel like 0% alcohol last night [11:50] yofel: ooh we're not duplicating work are we? [11:51] nope, thankfully kubotu does the status information nowadays ^^ [11:52] good good [11:52] Riddell: on that note: are you working on kdepim? If not I'll drop the 2 revert patches that shouldn't be there anymore [11:53] ah, stuff didn't even build yet, good [11:55] shadeslayer_: actually, do you remember why you added those to utopic? They were supposed to be trusty-only === soee_ is now known as soee [11:55] yofel: where be patch page [11:55] yofel: not looked at kdepim [11:55] on your work computer like your script :P [11:56] :P [11:56] hm [11:56] shadeslayer_: or well, they are on http://yofel.dyndns.org/ext/patches/ubuntu-patch-status.html [11:56] yeah [11:56] history ftw [11:57] anyway, I'll drop them unless you have good reason to keep them [11:58] not really [11:58] FWIW, that status page is what made remember them in the first place, so good work :P [11:58] ^_^ [11:59] Riddell: I'm going to lunch soon, but I think I will be here this afternoon, if you have some minutes then we could talk a bit about what you wrote in your blog and specially about the shared git repository [12:00] note that siduction's kde packaging has kubuntus packaging as upstream and I made some custom changes [12:00] santa: sure [12:01] ok [12:04] what you are trying to do with the shared git repository:"been there done that" I have my own solution to deal with you (=kubuntu) as upstream and the way it works it would work even if you were extremely uncooperative with me (which is not the case fortunately) [12:04] see you this afternoon [12:09] Riddell: libkscreen is still verification needed: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libkscreen/+bug/1352397 [12:09] Launchpad bug 1352397 in libkscreen (Ubuntu Trusty) "Please update to libkscreen 1.0.5" [Undecided,Fix committed] [12:10] yofel: there's no kdelibs on your status page btw [12:10] noticed last night [12:10] ^^ [12:11] ScottK: fixed [12:11] because I piped the output of the utopic package list into the script, which means it searched for kde4libs and kde-workspace (and others) aren't even on that list [12:11] OK. [12:12] shadeslayer_'s script (which is in barca) does that right [12:12] (I assume) [12:12] yes [12:12] http://people.ubuntu.com/~rohangarg/ubuntu-patch-status.html [12:13] Riddell: released. [12:14] great, thanks [12:16] did I mention I'm sleepy [12:16] so sleepy [12:16] Hot too? [12:16] too much beer? [12:16] ScottK: hah no [12:17] swiss food [12:17] I can stay here forever [12:17] mountains, food, awesomeness [12:17] except the internet [12:17] the internet is shit [12:19] it's a bit like barcelona but without the internet? === vinay is now known as Guest97577 [12:30] * Riddell looking at phonon [13:08] apachelogger: new phonon in utopic, what are your thoughts on where it should be backported? [13:08] Riddell: do we have a TODO list for discussion at Akademy yet? [13:09] Riddell: needs SRU imo [13:09] hmm.. I started it [13:09] yofel: https://notes.kde.org/p/kubuntu-akademy [13:09] not much on it [13:09] apachelogger: on what grounds? are there known bugs [13:09] ? [13:09] thanks [13:10] Riddell: all the ones that I fixed [13:10] and yes there are known bugs in whatever snapshot we had in trusty [13:10] phonon and phonon-vlc even are basically stable updates [13:10] no features at all [13:13] yep [13:13] ok I'll try and do that and see what ~ubuntu-sru say [13:13] cheers [14:04] Riddell: you asked in #plasma ;-) Not much change lately. I've played/tested digikam: only the management functions, not the editor, not the kipi-plugins) not problem yet. [14:05] Riddell: the few necessary changes to push to my launchpad account (linked from bugreport too) [14:07] allee: let me know when I need to look/upload [14:07] When you check the backlog of this channel you see that I've tried to figure out why kdepimlibs is not enabled. I remember that you could associate a tag with an addressbook. Now no menu entry :-( [14:07] Riddell: will do so [14:08] Riddell: a look never hurts. Maybe you spot easily stuff that also need to be done [14:17] ovidiu-florin: hi? [14:17] ovidiu-florin: silent phone call? [14:18] bookzilla: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CSe38dzJYkYf === rdieter_ is now known as rdieter [14:26] excellent [14:37] Riddell: I'll send that mail after today's meeting, to see first how things go [14:38] can you recommend me any other people that would be right for this? [14:38] ovidiu-florin: I'd post to the kde-community list [14:38] Riddell: it will be in 17-19 Oct. [14:39] aha [14:39] ok [14:39] thanks [14:39] I've done this sort of thing with [ade] before in nigeria and various people in india [14:41] unfourtanetly, I don't think KDE promotion won't be one of the main activities. But I'd like for it to be, and I'll do I'll I can to achieve this. [14:41] mostly it's a case of pinging anyone you can to see if they'll be interested [14:41] the main point of interest is software development and IT startups [14:42] but first you need to say what the event is, what's it called, what's the topics, what's the format etc [14:42] yeah, but I only know about 3 people, that I think will be right for the job, people that I've seen that make lot's of KDE promo online [14:43] Riddell: yes, all those will be set in time, currenlty they are just a sketch [14:43] todays meeting should fill in a lot of that sketch [14:44] two months before the event is leaving it tight if you don't even know what sort of event it is you want [14:44] it is know, just not by me. I mean I don't know all the details yet [14:45] I'm not the main organizer [14:45] I'll most likely be the main organizer of the OpenSource part [14:45] I hope [14:46] it is known* [14:46] is there a venue? what sort of venue? is there a website? are there sponsors? will entrace be free or cost money? lots of questions :) [14:48] hmm libokularcore has an soversion change [14:49] bookzilla: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=26Uxgb-Boh4 [14:49] Riddell: let me write those down [14:54] will speakers get stuff like a hotel and meals sorted for them? [14:54] will speakers get a free canoe hire to go on the danube? [14:55] all these questions [14:55] Riddell: keep them comming (the questions) [14:55] the latter question being the most important, obviously [14:56] Riddell: the Danube is pretty far from where the event will take place [14:57] is there easy travel to get there? [14:57] Timișoara, Romania [14:57] we have an international airport here [14:57] who's the audience? at promo type conferences I've done before in canary islands, india and nigeria there's a university group that supplies the majority of the audience so people are guaranteed [15:00] ScottK: lintian moans about pykde4 python3-pykde4: python-script-but-no-python-dep usr/lib/python3/dist-packages/PyQt4/uic/pykdeuic4.py [15:00] know anything about that? [15:00] presumably it needs the #! line changed to python3 [15:00] Does that have a python shebang? [15:00] Yes. [15:02] Not sure why the doesn't get rewritten. [15:08] * Riddell takes off for the evening [15:09] leaving smokeqt to be fixed some other time [15:17] how can you leave for the evening when it is afternoon here in Switzerland [15:18] Riddell: I would like us to offer the Fira font recommended by Eike Hein: https://github.com/mozilla/Fira [15:18] fedora already offers it and I'm jealous [15:33] @§(§/&"/("§=))$) upstart [15:33] *sigh* [15:39] could someone with trusty please run this: [15:39] qdbus com.ubuntu.Upstart /com/ubuntu/Upstart com.ubuntu.Upstart0_6.version [15:39] just curious [15:41] bookzilla: ^ [15:42] $ qdbus com.ubuntu.Upstart /com/ubuntu/Upstart com.ubuntu.Upstart0_6.version [15:42] init (upstart 1.12.1) [15:42] @"§$IJRR§I [15:42] thanks valorie [15:43] so I *again* don't have suspend [15:43] guess why [15:43] $ qdbus com.ubuntu.Upstart /com/ubuntu/Upstart com.ubuntu.Upstart0_6.version [15:43] upstart 1.13.1 [15:43] apachelogger: do you have a better idea than this? [15:43] - QRegExp exp("init \$upstart ([0-9.]+)\$"); [15:43] + QRegExp exp("(?:init \$)?upstart ([0-9.]+)(?:\$)?"); [15:45] yofel: didn't we patch that? [15:45] we patched the number parsing, now the "init(...)" stuff is gone [15:45] and we use excactMatch() for the pattern [15:46] *exact [15:51] Good afternoon. [15:55] apachelogger: with context: http://paste.kde.org/pmviozowt - tested with http://paste.kde.org/pqhltg14m which prints true. [15:55] If you don't come up with something better I'll throw it up on RB later [16:05] yofel: ....................................... [16:06] yofel: regex probably is the way to go [16:06] open folder from downloads in firefox still broken [16:06] in kubuntu 14.04 [16:41] most curious [16:41] Service 'com.ubuntu.Upstart' does not exist. [16:54] probably got eaten by systemd [16:54] https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-bZId5j2jREQ/U-vlysklvCI/AAAAAAAACrA/B4JggkVJi38/w426-h284/bd0fb252416206158627fb0b1bff9b4779dca13f.gif [16:54] ;) [16:55] lol [18:15] apachelogger: https://git.reviewboard.kde.org/r/119791/ [18:24] hi Riddell [18:24] I have been preparing a reply to your post [18:26] additionally I would like to ask you a couple of things: what about splitting the monolithic script to prepare new released into smaller ones? [18:27] for instance I have a separace script to bump all the build depends and having it separated might work better to shared them among kubuntu debian and siduction [18:28] also I found that approach easier to debug [19:36] apachelogger: http://imgur.com/0tXiQ20 [19:39] apachelogger: http://192.168.1.59:8000/IMG_20140814_152459.jpg [19:46] shadeslayer_: getting into black and white photography? ^^ [19:48] I <3 B&W film, and working in a darkroom [19:48] but no darkroom access any more [19:48] hm, after reading kevin and raymond's responses to the packaging post I do wonder what happened to updating bluez... === keithzg_ is now known as keithzg === bookzilla is now known as valorie [20:02] gimmp using ~850 mb for single file editing .. not good :| [20:54] Should kubuntu-backports for trusty contain 4:4.13.97? Thought that would be in kubuntu backports beta... [21:08] jmux: it shouldn't, jr copied it to the wrong archive, but with 4.14.0 imminent we rather fixed all issues instead of deleting it [21:22] uhm drkonqi crashes when i want to raport a bug [21:28] shadeslayer_: ^ [21:35] that's a feature [21:35] not a bug [21:35] developers hate bugs [21:35] :) [21:36] btw is there some translation server for KDE ? [21:36] i see some/ a lot of / missing translations [21:37] i would like to add some but dont know where -.- [21:39] soee: plasma 5? [21:39] shadeslayer_: crash / translations ? [21:40] crash [21:40] shadeslayer_: yes, though i wonder if it might be related to the crash type i want to report -> the System Settings -> Multimedia [21:58] soee: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/vlc/+bug/1328466 [21:58] Launchpad bug 1328466 in vlc (Ubuntu) "vlc package should refresh plugins cache after installing" [Undecided,Confirmed] [21:58] kameloso^^^^^^^^: can you please fix your connection