[09:44] <knome> SamuraiRM apparently in #xubuntu, is he ban evading?
[09:45] <ikonia> I think so
[09:45] <ikonia> I don't see the original ban replaced
[09:45] <ikonia> he was "ok" in #ubuntu a day or so ago
[09:46] <ikonia> the ban forward didn't get picked up as it's a nick ban
[09:46] <ikonia> so he joined as guest, then changed his nick
[09:46] <ikonia> or it would have ban forwarded him here
[09:46] <knome> yep.
[10:42] <popey> @login
[10:42] <popey> @btlogin
[11:46] <k1l> ban evading with sanurai instead of samurai?
[11:46] <ikonia> he's not banned in #ubuntu
[11:46] <ikonia> I suspect he needs to sort out his ban in #ubuntu-it
[11:46] <ikonia> and get help there as the language problem seems quite hight
[11:46] <ikonia> high
[11:46] <k1l> i thought he was banned in #xubuntu and -it etc
[11:47] <ikonia> he's forwarded to here from #xubuntu
[11:47] <ikonia> and he's banned in #ubuntu-it
[11:47] <ikonia> I suspect he'll be better of sorting his -it ban out so he can talk to people in italian to get a clear problem/resolution discussion going
[11:48] <k1l> yep
[11:48] <k1l> but i think he just doesnt care about that as long as he gets what he want while beeing annoying to other users
[11:49] <ikonia> we'll he's not trying to be annoying at the moment as he apears to want genuine help
[11:49] <ikonia> but his langauge barrier is quite a tough one
[12:11] <IdleOne> the barrier didn't seem too high for him yesterday when he got banned for saying his killed his family
[12:12] <IdleOne> s/his/he/
[12:35] <knome> ikonia, changed the ban on #xubuntu to a broader one for SamuraiRM, he seems to be changing host
[12:36] <ikonia> ok
[12:36] <ikonia> I'm not personally bothered by him, I just want him to sort his -it ban out as I'm sure they can help better than broken english
[12:37] <knome> he also seems to be crossposting
[13:27] <ikonia> knome: it appears he thinks your actions where mine
[13:27] <ikonia> d me
[13:27] <ikonia> 112:58 <SanuraiRM> fuck you
[13:27] <ikonia> just noticed I had a pm from him
[13:29] <knome> i'm sorry.
[13:31] <ikonia> it's not a problem
[13:32] <ikonia> just chuckling with you about it
[13:32] <ikonia> not complaining
[14:02] <k1l> @mark #ubuntu Giant81 offtopic imgur link
[15:42] <SanuraiRM> hi
[15:42] <rww> howdy
[15:42] <SanuraiRM> i have installed xscreensaver
[15:43] <rww> SanuraiRM: this isn't a support channel. You are forwarded here from #xubuntu.
[15:43] <SanuraiRM> scuseme
[15:43] <rww> Please contact #ubuntu-it's ops, resolve your ban in there, and ask there for support. Thanks.
[15:51] <Unit193> knome: Yeah, that's why I went for nickban first, noticed the host wasn't static at all.
[17:51] <Unit193> Note, it's actually useless to send SanuraiRM to #ubuntu-irc, no -it ops idle there (checked the access list against nicks in -irc).
[17:52] <DJones> That seems like something for the IRCC to discuss with the -it ops
[17:58] <Unit193> DJones: Likely, but nevertheless, it leaves the best option to PM the op in question rather than directing to a channel with no IT OPs.
[18:39] <DJones> Unit193: Agreed, although I would question why -it ops  don't join -irc I did think it was recommended for loco channel ops
[18:40] <DJones> Could be I've misread something in the past though
[18:40] <IdleOne> recommended != to obligatory
[18:40] <IdleOne> just because the IRCC recommends ops idle there does not mean they have to. They do have an op channel I believe
[18:41] <Unit193> DJones: It is for locos and non-core channels, yes.  As well as other IRC discussions.
[18:41] <IdleOne> the -it loco that is
[18:41] <DJones> So if -it have their own loco channel, hwere are the logs for that?
[18:42] <IdleOne> same place all the other logs are at, locos also don't have to log
[18:42] <IdleOne> everything is voluntary in the Ubuntu IRC world
[18:43] <rww> unless the LoCo Council decides to be silly and force one to
[18:43]  * rww bitter
[18:43] <DJones> That sounds really stupid
[18:43] <IdleOne> rww: they did that to you?
[18:43] <Unit193> IdleOne: LoCo's had/have forced logging, actually.  irclogs.ubuntu.com.
[18:44] <rww> IdleOne: yes
[18:44] <rww> iirc they were looking at forcing it for all of them, i forget if that happened
[18:44] <IdleOne> hmm that seems silly to me
[18:44] <rww> astute observers may note an overlap between the LC composition at the time and the list of people who wanted #u-w logged
[18:44] <DJones> Being honest if a loco channel isn't prepared to have its ops channel logged, that channel shouldn't be an official channel
[18:45] <rww> anyway. tl;dr: everything is not voluntary and drama is drama
[18:45] <elky> DJones: #firstworldproblems
[18:45] <IdleOne> I can understand that main support channels/core channels but I think loco's should be left to decide for themselves
[18:45] <Unit193> They weren't, but IMO should have been yes.
[18:46] <rww> 18:46:12 [Users #ubuntu-it-ops]
[18:46] <rww> 18:46:12 [@ChanServ] [@ubot-it] [+enzotib] [ rww]
[18:46] <rww> dunno if that's the right channel.
[18:46] <rww> no banforwards and no mention in /topic
[18:47] <rww> oh, http://wiki.ubuntu-it.org/GruppoIrc/RisoluzioneControversie implies it is
[18:47] <rww> (I expect SamuraiRM needs pointing at that URL in future)
[18:48] <DJones> Iwonder how much of the -it issues relate to LjL
[18:48] <Unit193> rww: +f?
[18:48] <IdleOne> very little I suspect
[18:48] <IdleOne> he wasn't very active in there aiui
[18:48] <IdleOne> if at all
[18:48] <rww> Unit193: what about it?
[18:49] <DJones> Not that he's causing them, more that he may be an op there and responsible behind the scenes for  it
[18:49] <Unit193> mode/#ubuntu-it-ops +CFcmnst  I see.
[18:49] <rww> oh, +f'ing him there from here
[18:49] <rww> probably not the best idea
[18:51] <IdleOne> doesn't askubuntu have an -it section?
[18:52] <rww> they have an OSQA instance at http://chiedi.ubuntu-it.org/
[18:52] <DJones> IdleOne: Don't let the trolls get in the way of the truth
[18:53] <IdleOne> I'm not sure what that mean
[18:54] <DJones> IdleOne: Too many people are blaiming Ubuntu because it exists, rather than looking at the facts
[19:09] <hggdh> ikonia, knome: ping
[19:09] <knome> yes?
[19:10] <ikonia> ?
[19:10] <ikonia> you summond
[19:12] <ikonia> hggdh: what's up ?
[19:13] <hggdh> ikonia: can we PM for a bit?
[19:13] <ikonia> yup
[19:13] <hggdh> knome: same thing, can we PM for a bit?
[19:13] <knome> feel free to
[21:00] <hggdh> staff around?
[21:01] <Pricey> hggdh: What's up?
[21:02] <hggdh> Pricey: hi, can we have ubot93 (ukikie@botters/unit193/bot/ubot93) cloaked as ubuntu/bot/ubot93 ?
[21:03] <Pricey> Unit193: Around to confirm please?
[21:03] <Unit193> Pricey: Confirmed.
[21:04] <Pricey> Unit193: no going back etc..
[21:04] <hggdh> last call, and all that
[21:04] <tonyyarusso> We have 93 bots now?
[21:04] <Pricey> hggdh: Should be done.
[21:04] <hggdh> so far yes, until Unit193++
[21:04] <Unit193> Thanks.
[21:06] <knome> bazhang, not sure it's a good idea to send them to other channels to pick up more bans.
[21:06] <knome> at least i prefer not to play the "find a channel i'm not banned in" -game
[21:07] <bazhang> knome, he wanted some non-ubuntu channels, and I have pre-emptively warned those ops
[22:17] <k1l> erm, anyway to ban notices in channel?
[22:17] <genii> Bah, mass attack in there
[22:17] <k1l> should set +r imho
[22:47] <k1l> whats about ppc questions in #ubuntu?
[22:48] <k1l> imho they are that few that they are allowed even the ppc port is officially droped?
[22:59] <hggdh> ppc dropped?
[23:00] <k1l> !ppc
[23:02] <tsimpson> modern Macs have Intel chips
[23:02] <hggdh> http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/netboot/trusty/
[23:02] <k1l> yep.
[23:02] <hggdh> we have power8 and powerpc
[23:02] <hggdh> oh, you re talking about macs
[23:03] <hggdh> not IBM RS/6000 and cousins
[23:03] <k1l> no, the apple g3/g4 stuff
[23:03] <hggdh> ack. Sorry.
[23:03] <k1l> there is one user in #ubuntu who was told ppc is dropped and not supported in #ubuntu anymore. i am just asking on how the policy is on that
[23:04] <hggdh> my personal take is if it is community-driven, then it is community-supported. And that would mean acceptable on #ubuntu
[23:04] <tsimpson> so long as the questions are general enough, I don't see a problem
[23:04] <k1l> imho yes
[23:06] <hggdh> Pricey: still available? I got some more -br channels to +Ff for me
[23:10] <tsimpson> don't freenode still have that secret channel for GCs?
[23:10] <Unit193> Yes.
[23:10] <hggdh> well, it will only help if I know of it :-)
[23:11] <hggdh> but I can always go #freenode, and be helped
[23:16] <rww> faster in #freenode anyway, if it's the same as it used to be
[23:16] <rww> although then you have to deal with the "helpers"
[23:20] <hggdh> part of the game :-)
 ok who here is live and could help me
[23:57] <bazhang> ubottu, random live zombie
[23:58] <rww> @random bazhang this works without an error message :P
[23:59] <bazhang> rww nice!