[03:41] eeee_ called the ops in #ubuntu () [04:42] Beldar called the ops in #ubuntu (_2_landa a bot) === Amaranthus is now known as Amaranth === ikonia_ is now known as ikonia === valorie is now known as bookzilla [09:44] SamuraiRM apparently in #xubuntu, is he ban evading? [09:45] I think so [09:45] I don't see the original ban replaced [09:45] he was "ok" in #ubuntu a day or so ago [09:46] the ban forward didn't get picked up as it's a nick ban [09:46] so he joined as guest, then changed his nick [09:46] or it would have ban forwarded him here [09:46] yep. [10:42] @login [10:42] The operation succeeded. [10:42] @btlogin [11:46] ban evading with sanurai instead of samurai? [11:46] he's not banned in #ubuntu [11:46] I suspect he needs to sort out his ban in #ubuntu-it [11:46] and get help there as the language problem seems quite hight [11:46] high [11:46] i thought he was banned in #xubuntu and -it etc [11:47] he's forwarded to here from #xubuntu [11:47] and he's banned in #ubuntu-it [11:47] I suspect he'll be better of sorting his -it ban out so he can talk to people in italian to get a clear problem/resolution discussion going [11:48] yep [11:48] but i think he just doesnt care about that as long as he gets what he want while beeing annoying to other users [11:49] we'll he's not trying to be annoying at the moment as he apears to want genuine help [11:49] but his langauge barrier is quite a tough one [12:11] the barrier didn't seem too high for him yesterday when he got banned for saying his killed his family [12:12] s/his/he/ [12:35] ikonia, changed the ban on #xubuntu to a broader one for SamuraiRM, he seems to be changing host [12:36] ok [12:36] I'm not personally bothered by him, I just want him to sort his -it ban out as I'm sure they can help better than broken english [12:37] he also seems to be crossposting [13:27] knome: it appears he thinks your actions where mine [13:27] d me [13:27] 112:58 fuck you [13:27] just noticed I had a pm from him [13:29] i'm sorry. [13:31] it's not a problem [13:32] just chuckling with you about it [13:32] not complaining [14:02] @mark #ubuntu Giant81 offtopic imgur link [14:02] The operation succeeded. [15:42] hi [15:42] howdy [15:42] i have installed xscreensaver [15:43] SanuraiRM: this isn't a support channel. You are forwarded here from #xubuntu. [15:43] scuseme [15:43] Please contact #ubuntu-it's ops, resolve your ban in there, and ask there for support. Thanks. [15:51] knome: Yeah, that's why I went for nickban first, noticed the host wasn't static at all. [17:51] Note, it's actually useless to send SanuraiRM to #ubuntu-irc, no -it ops idle there (checked the access list against nicks in -irc). [17:52] That seems like something for the IRCC to discuss with the -it ops [17:58] DJones: Likely, but nevertheless, it leaves the best option to PM the op in question rather than directing to a channel with no IT OPs. [18:39] Unit193: Agreed, although I would question why -it ops don't join -irc I did think it was recommended for loco channel ops [18:40] Could be I've misread something in the past though [18:40] recommended != to obligatory [18:40] just because the IRCC recommends ops idle there does not mean they have to. They do have an op channel I believe [18:41] DJones: It is for locos and non-core channels, yes. As well as other IRC discussions. [18:41] the -it loco that is [18:41] So if -it have their own loco channel, hwere are the logs for that? [18:42] same place all the other logs are at, locos also don't have to log [18:42] everything is voluntary in the Ubuntu IRC world [18:43] unless the LoCo Council decides to be silly and force one to [18:43] * rww bitter [18:43] That sounds really stupid [18:43] rww: they did that to you? [18:43] IdleOne: LoCo's had/have forced logging, actually. irclogs.ubuntu.com. [18:44] IdleOne: yes [18:44] iirc they were looking at forcing it for all of them, i forget if that happened [18:44] hmm that seems silly to me [18:44] astute observers may note an overlap between the LC composition at the time and the list of people who wanted #u-w logged [18:44] Being honest if a loco channel isn't prepared to have its ops channel logged, that channel shouldn't be an official channel [18:45] anyway. tl;dr: everything is not voluntary and drama is drama [18:45] DJones: #firstworldproblems [18:45] I can understand that main support channels/core channels but I think loco's should be left to decide for themselves [18:45] They weren't, but IMO should have been yes. [18:46] 18:46:12 [Users #ubuntu-it-ops] [18:46] 18:46:12 [@ChanServ] [@ubot-it] [+enzotib] [ rww] [18:46] dunno if that's the right channel. [18:46] no banforwards and no mention in /topic [18:47] oh, http://wiki.ubuntu-it.org/GruppoIrc/RisoluzioneControversie implies it is [18:47] (I expect SamuraiRM needs pointing at that URL in future) [18:48] Iwonder how much of the -it issues relate to LjL [18:48] rww: +f? [18:48] very little I suspect [18:48] he wasn't very active in there aiui [18:48] if at all [18:48] Unit193: what about it? [18:49] Not that he's causing them, more that he may be an op there and responsible behind the scenes for it [18:49] mode/#ubuntu-it-ops +CFcmnst I see. [18:49] oh, +f'ing him there from here [18:49] probably not the best idea [18:51] doesn't askubuntu have an -it section? [18:52] they have an OSQA instance at http://chiedi.ubuntu-it.org/ [18:52] IdleOne: Don't let the trolls get in the way of the truth [18:53] I'm not sure what that mean [18:54] IdleOne: Too many people are blaiming Ubuntu because it exists, rather than looking at the facts [19:09] ikonia, knome: ping [19:09] yes? [19:10] ? [19:10] you summond [19:12] hggdh: what's up ? [19:13] ikonia: can we PM for a bit? [19:13] yup [19:13] knome: same thing, can we PM for a bit? [19:13] feel free to === bookzilla is now known as valorie [21:00] staff around? [21:01] hggdh: What's up? [21:02] Pricey: hi, can we have ubot93 (ukikie@botters/unit193/bot/ubot93) cloaked as ubuntu/bot/ubot93 ? [21:03] Unit193: Around to confirm please? [21:03] Pricey: Confirmed. [21:04] Unit193: no going back etc.. [21:04] last call, and all that [21:04] We have 93 bots now? [21:04] hggdh: Should be done. [21:04] so far yes, until Unit193++ [21:04] Thanks. [21:06] bazhang, not sure it's a good idea to send them to other channels to pick up more bans. [21:06] at least i prefer not to play the "find a channel i'm not banned in" -game [21:07] knome, he wanted some non-ubuntu channels, and I have pre-emptively warned those ops [22:16] OerHeks called the ops in #ubuntu () [22:17] erm, anyway to ban notices in channel? [22:17] Bah, mass attack in there [22:17] should set +r imho [22:47] whats about ppc questions in #ubuntu? [22:48] imho they are that few that they are allowed even the ppc port is officially droped? [22:59] ppc dropped? [23:00] !ppc [23:00] PowerPC. Formerly used by Apple for the Macintosh line of computers. Variants are now used in popular gaming consoles. PPC was a fully supported Ubuntu architecture up to and including edgy. It is now a community port, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PowerPCFAQ [23:02] modern Macs have Intel chips [23:02] http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/netboot/trusty/ [23:02] yep. [23:02] we have power8 and powerpc [23:02] oh, you re talking about macs [23:03] not IBM RS/6000 and cousins [23:03] no, the apple g3/g4 stuff [23:03] ack. Sorry. [23:03] there is one user in #ubuntu who was told ppc is dropped and not supported in #ubuntu anymore. i am just asking on how the policy is on that [23:04] my personal take is if it is community-driven, then it is community-supported. And that would mean acceptable on #ubuntu [23:04] so long as the questions are general enough, I don't see a problem [23:04] imho yes [23:06] Pricey: still available? I got some more -br channels to +Ff for me [23:10] don't freenode still have that secret channel for GCs? [23:10] Yes. [23:10] well, it will only help if I know of it :-) [23:11] but I can always go #freenode, and be helped [23:16] faster in #freenode anyway, if it's the same as it used to be [23:16] although then you have to deal with the "helpers" [23:20] part of the game :-) [23:56] ok who here is live and could help me [23:57] ubottu, random live zombie [23:57] zombie [23:57] bazhang: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :) [23:58] @random bazhang this works without an error message :P [23:58] message [23:59] rww nice!