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daftykinsoh.00:01
zzigyhello00:06
daftykinshi there00:07
daftykinsgot a question for us?00:07
zzigyhi.. yea.. i was wondering if anyone knew about a good irc channel where i can get help. im beginning a programming course on c++ and my first program.. well.. doesnt work well00:09
zzigytried ubuntu-programming but no one there00:09
Kira9204i...guess some programming channel at freenode00:10
Kira9204how big is it?00:10
wafflejockzzigy, can you pastebin your code.... honestly it's been like 10 years since I did anything in C++ but can take a look00:11
OerHekstry ##c or ##c++00:11
zzigyhttp://paste.ubuntu.com/8040637/00:11
zzigyis that the correct way of posting?00:11
wafflejockyup00:11
wafflejocklooks easy enough too00:11
zzigyyea its pretty basic00:12
zzigybut the values that im getting arent right00:12
Akiva-Thinkpadubuntu forums keeps logging me out within seconds of logging in00:13
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wafflejockzzigy, try using 4.0/3.0 instead of 4/300:13
Akiva-Thinkpadany ideas ow what I can try?00:14
wafflejockzzigy, with the latter it's going to do integer based division and not work out right00:14
wafflejockAkiva-Thinkpad, have you tried incognito mode or a different browser00:15
Akiva-Thinkpadwafflejock, not a bad idea00:15
Akiva-Thinkpadwafflejock, i'll try that00:15
wafflejockAkiva-Thinkpad, if incognito mode works it's probably something in your cache messing things up00:15
zzigyyea it gave me the same values00:15
wafflejockzzigy, http://paste.ubuntu.com/8040661/00:16
Akiva-Thinkpadwafflejock, nope; logs me out right away too.00:16
wafflejockzzigy, you sure you recompiled00:16
etronikhi all! to setup an SSH tunnel between a remote PC to my Ubuntu @ home, do I need to forward port  22 from the router to the PC ?00:16
wafflejockAkiva-Thinkpad, not sure just tried in Google Chrome and it works00:17
zzigyit gave me this error00:17
zzigyhttp://paste.ubuntu.com/8040676/00:17
Akiva-Thinkpadwafflejock, yah no matter what browser I use; it just logs me out right away00:18
wafflejockzzigy, can you repaste your code with that error00:18
wafflejockAkiva-Thinkpad, strangeness not sure what to tell ya... guess try to reach out to their support00:18
Kira9204should't it be something like this? ((double)4/3)*PI*pow(radius,3.0);00:19
daftykinsetronik: yes00:19
Akiva-Thinkpad;_; I have. nothing has been working00:19
wafflejockAkiva-Thinkpad, you can monitor the network traffic and see if there's any obvious errors but depending on how the site is built it might be difficult or impossible for you to say00:19
wafflejockAkiva-Thinkpad, F12 in Chrome for the network panel00:19
zzigynvm.. it worked!!!00:19
Akiva-Thinkpadwafflejock, thanks00:19
Akiva-Thinkpadwill try that00:19
zzigythanks00:19
wafflejockyup np00:19
wafflejocketronik, yes but better to use a different port00:20
etronikwafflejock, other than 22 ? any off-limits range ? or recommended raneg ?00:21
wafflejocketronik, 22 is known to be SSH, you should use a key pair (public key goes in ~/.ssh/authorized_keys text file, private key in .ssh folder on client machine) instead of login with username/password too and fail2ban is good to get rid of people trying to brute force in00:21
wafflejocketronik, http://www.liquidweb.com/kb/changing-the-ssh-port/00:22
etronikwafflejock, great thanks00:22
wafflejocketronik, google around a bit about SSH security or just the stuff I mentioned and you'll be a bit safer00:22
wafflejocknp00:22
AndChat378849Why is it so silent00:24
wafflejocketronik, I don't always switch from port 22 but it's good practice... here's a page with a lot of other things that can be done to lock it down a bit more if you'd like http://www.cyberciti.biz/tips/linux-unix-bsd-openssh-server-best-practices.html00:25
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wafflejockAndChat378849, all the questions are answered and ubuntu is running perfectly :P00:25
bubbasauresAndChat378849, Ssh we are sleeping.00:25
etronikwafflejock, y agreat I'll try to apply it to ubuntu 1400:25
AndChat378849Maybe my connection.   Sorry00:25
wafflejocketronik, cool, also you might want to look into SSH port tunneling so you can make use of other ports for things like VNC by using the SSH connection, that can be useful and still keeps everything secure through the SSH connection00:28
etronikwafflejock, that first link you sent, mentions apf.. but I don't seem to have it... what is the default firewall in ubuntu 14 ?00:29
wafflejocketronik, ssh -i ~/.ssh/System76Connection.pem -L 5901:localhost:5901 -L 3001:localhost:3000 user@mydomain.com00:29
wafflejockthat's my connection string I have stored in a .sh file that is in the path for easy connection and does some tunnelling for VNC00:30
wafflejocketronik, regarding the firewall I think ufw, or shorewall might be an option00:30
wafflejock!ufw00:30
ubottuUbuntu, like any other Linux distribution, has built-in firewall capabilities. The firewall is managed using the 'ufw' command - see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UFW | GUI frontends such as gufw and ufw-kde also exist. | An alternative to ufw is the 'iptables' command - See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IptablesHowTo00:30
etronikyeah ufw...00:31
etroniknow I try to correlate APT to UFW... ufff00:31
etronikdunno if I can make it00:31
wafflejocknot following on that?00:31
wafflejockI generally just rely on fail2ban to update the iptables if it sees too many auth failures in a log file00:32
wafflejockthat works pretty well and isn't too complicated00:32
enjoiany good guides by chance that anyone knows off hand on how to change the actual menu of bodhi/enlightenment00:32
rypervencheOr you could use keys and disable password authentication and be done with it :)00:32
zzigybtw, idk if Akiva-Thinkpad was able to join #ubuntu-forums, but when i tried it says the channel is invite only00:33
enjoiwas getting into making my own theme for enlightenment but not sure if its possible to change the actual start menu00:33
OerHeksenjoi, bodhi is not supported here, try #bodhilinux00:33
wafflejockzzigy, oh think (s)he was looking for getting in through the web interface00:33
wafflejockzzigy, just ubuntuforums.com or whatever it is00:33
Akiva-Thinkpadwafflejock, yep00:34
wafflejock.org00:34
daftykinsenjoi: enlightenment is the distro you're running?00:34
etronikdamm00:35
enjoiim on ubuntu 14.04 :P00:35
enjoirunning on the enlightenment/bodhidesktop env00:35
wafflejockwhat's up etronik00:36
etronikwafflejock, Have no idea how to configure ufw, and tried to install a front-end and it won't run00:36
wafflejocketronik, which one also are you trying to run it remotely?00:36
etronikwafflejock, I'm on my ubuntu PC configuring UFW here where it's the final destination machine and it's running the ssh server00:37
etronikwafflejock, BTW... port forwarding that different port (than 22), should I open TCP, UDP r both ?00:38
wafflejocketronik, you try gufw?00:39
wafflejockworking here00:39
etroniknot yet no00:39
wafflejocketronik, regarding SSH it just uses TCP00:40
etronikah do I can leave UDP out of this.... then00:40
wafflejocketronik, UDP is typically for broadcasting data when you don't care if it all gets through since there's no confirmation.... good for things like video games00:40
wafflejockso yeah good with TCP in this case00:40
wafflejockglad I took that one Java network programming class :)00:41
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etronikgufw running00:42
wafflejockthink I learned more applicable info in 1 class than in years of other courses00:43
Sna4x81Such a weird issue.  Newegg.com either takes about 5 minutes to load, or never loads on my Ubuntu machine.  On my wife's Win 7 machine it loads fine (same network).  On my Android it loads fine (same network).  Every other site loads just fine.00:44
Sna4x81On my work Ubuntu machine newegg.com loads just fine.00:44
wafflejockSna4x81, you can see the timings in the Chrome debug panel (F12 to open it)00:44
wafflejockmight tell you what's taking so long00:44
Sna4x81Yeah, I looked there.  Only 1 thing in the network tab.00:45
Sna4x81www.newegg.com ... pending.00:45
wafflejockSna4x81, perhaps DNS problem or something? hard to say... responds quickly here00:45
Sna4x81I cleared my browsing cache, tried incognito mode, tried FireFox instead of Chromium.. same thing.00:45
Sna4x81Strange if it's DNS because it works fine on my other devices.00:46
Sna4x81They're all going through the same router - an Ubuntu router.00:46
wafflejockSna4x81, try them by IP http://204.14.213.18500:46
daftykinsDNS sounds likely00:46
Sna4x81Same thing.  It loads fine.  I can resolve the ip fine with nslookup.00:46
wafflejockhmmm.... twiddle twiddle twiddle00:46
epipercepi_anyone know the command to cause your box to get the proper time from the ntp server?00:47
Sna4x81ntpdate ntp.ubuntu.com00:47
epipercepi_i'm using zsh and googling just gives me a bunch of random useless crap like 'how to install zsh'00:47
wafflejockepipercepi_, think it's ntpupdate... not sure ont hat though00:47
wafflejockoh00:47
wafflejockwas close00:47
epipercepi_hm. well i tried that, it just seems to have fetched the same time i see now.00:48
epipercepi_only the issue is that it's actually 2048, and the time i have displayed (and fetched) is 191100:48
wafflejockSna4x81, you can go to "Timeline" in the chrome debug tools hit record then reload the page, save the timeline data and post somewehre00:48
Sna4x81Okay, will do.  It takes a few minutes.00:49
daftykinsepipercepi_: best way is to disable NTP, set time manually, then re-enable00:49
epipercepi_ah ok00:49
epipercepi_thanks00:49
etronikwafflejock, I should be able to restart sshd via /etc/init.d/sshd restart no ?00:50
daftykinsetronik: that's old style, "sudo service x restart"00:50
wafflejock^ that00:50
etronikx = sshd ...00:50
wafflejocknot sure about sshd though00:51
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daftykinspossibly ssh, try either00:51
daftykinsyou'll see :)00:51
Rohan_mHERE IS mY PROBLEM WITH ERROR AND CODE HELP ME SOLVE IT http://www.codejaw.com/vlokn00:51
etronikwafflejock, daftykins thenks00:51
etronikwafflejock, daftykins thanks00:51
wafflejockhey there caps lock :P00:51
daftykinsRohan_m: we have told you again and again, this is not a development channel, GO AWAY00:51
wafflejockRohan_m, you should pass buffer not &buffer00:52
epipercepi_thanks y'all, seems to have done it00:52
daftykinswafflejock: please don't enable these users to discuss the wrong topics in here00:52
wafflejocksorry00:53
wafflejockC gets me tickled00:53
daftykinsthis one's a persistent offender00:53
wafflejockgotcha00:53
daftykinsreally needs to be shown that it's unacceptable :)00:53
wafflejockyup rules are rules00:54
timhansenwoot! fixed my wifi issue00:55
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alipoor90Hi00:56
Lisac196hi00:56
Lisac196i need some help00:57
Lisac196anybody speak croatian or i must type in english?00:57
alipoor90I have a problem,after boot screen goes black and login screen not showing up ...00:57
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wafflejocktimhansen, nice congrats... that page work out?00:58
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timhansenLisac196, check #ubuntu-hr00:58
etronikwafflejock, so I got sshd running on my custom port, I have UFW rules allowing IN/OUT of that custom port, finally I have my router port forwarding my custom port... however I cannot open an SSH console acces via putty from my laptop (via no-ip.com)00:58
timhansenwafflejock, yup!00:58
Lisac196timhansen: tnx00:58
alberto__Hi all00:58
wafflejocketronik, hmm not sure probably better to debug when you're at home you have an Android device? if so you can use the tethering so you can test from an external IP00:59
etronikwafflejock, debug when I'm at home !? but.. I am at home ;-)01:00
wafflejocketronik, I used to use FoxFi, now I'm on Ting and have a Nexus 5 so tethering is just an option in the OS01:00
wafflejockhaha oh okay01:00
wafflejockwell that's good news01:00
wafflejocketronik, can you break down the whole setup for me01:00
etronikwafflejock, huh? why involve android on this story ?  ;-) I got ubuntu desktop PC running sshd and another laptop running windows01:01
alipoor90I have a problem,after boot screen goes black and login screen not showing up ...01:01
alipoor90but i can access console01:01
wafflejocketronik, oh just sayin I use it to get an external IP if I'm trying to test some port forwarding stuff on the router01:01
etronikwafflejock, I trying from windows to open a putty session to my ubuntu desktop PC01:01
wafflejockalipoor90, you probably want to check out nomodeset and might need to check  out your graphics card drivers01:02
wafflejock!nomodeset01:02
ubottuA common kernel (boot)parameter is nomodeset, which is needed for some graphic cards that otherwise boot into a black screen or show corrupted splash screen. See http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1613132 on how to use this parameter01:02
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etronikwafflejock, I understand... but if I resolve the desktop PC IP address via a no-ip.com Dynamic name, won't I  access it via the external IP ?01:02
Lisac196nobody on #ubuntu-hr i say in english01:03
wafflejocketronik, sometimes that doesn't work right ofr some reason01:03
wafflejockfor*01:03
Lisac196I have instaled edubuntu with wubi01:03
Lisac196i had some problems, but i completed instalation01:03
etronikhmmm01:03
Lisac196i didn't install ubuntu before edubuntu01:03
Lisac196now, when i go to edubuntu it says that can't mount /tmp, some like that01:03
wafflejocketronik, can you SSH in with the LAN IP?01:03
etronikwhy stuff is this complicated .... :-/ I can try, yeah, that's a good idea01:04
wafflejocketronik, eh anything that touches "security" and therefore "remote access" is a hairy mess01:04
wafflejockarms race with protection and intrusion01:04
etronikwafflejock, accessing the ssh via LAN IP works just fine !01:05
etronikwafflejock, so it's the external access that's not quite there yet01:05
wafflejocketronik, okay so then your port forwarding is the only thing in question but like I said I always test this using an external IP01:05
wafflejocketronik, you got any remote systems you can login to to test from an external IP?01:05
wafflejockor an Android :P01:05
etronikjee, just today that I forgot my android phone at the office. :-/01:06
wafflejockoh bummer01:06
ranger82_I installed ubuntu 12.04 on a server that has 8 NICs..while booting all interfaces are marked as down01:06
wafflejocketronik, well if you want to learn about digital ocean now would be a good time :)01:06
wafflejockhehe01:06
ranger82_any idea?01:07
BeldarLisac196, Check fstab and that the UUID's are correct. Any additional partitions besides / home and swap?01:07
Loshkiranger82_: while booting sounds normal, or do you mean after booting?01:07
ranger82_yes - after booting01:07
ranger82_i edited /etc/network/interfaces and assigned a ip for eth001:08
etronikwafflejock, hmm 60USD a month is a bit steep for my budget01:08
ranger82_i made eth0 manually up01:08
etronikwafflejock, hmm 60USD a YEAR  is a bit steep for my budget01:08
wafflejocketronik, they have $5 a month instances01:08
wafflejockah01:08
ranger82_and did service networking restart01:08
wafflejockyouc an do it per minute too01:08
wafflejockI usually use AWS but DO is nice for the per minute thing01:08
ranger82_but networking did not take place01:08
wafflejockI mean I use AWS for web hosting email etc.01:08
Loshkiranger82_: please pastebin the output of sudo /sbin/ifconfig -a01:09
wafflejocketronik, actually if you go search for linux action show they are sponsors of the show and have promo codes for $10 every month01:09
wafflejockI signed up with the promo tried it out compared to AWS stuck with AWS cause it's a little faster and I'm just used to the interface01:09
etronikwafflejock, I'm in europe01:10
wafflejocketronik, ah k yeah they just opened a datacenter there01:10
wafflejockmight be mroe01:10
wafflejockmore*01:10
Lisac196Beldar: can you go to PVT01:10
Beldarno01:10
Lisac196ok01:10
Lisac196I am new with linux :D01:10
Lisac196when edubuntu mounts it said that there are some serious errors during checking disks for /01:10
BeldarLisac196, Check the UUID01:10
Lisac196where can i check that :S01:11
ranger82_Loshki: since I dont have network connectivity from that ubuntu server, I cannot paste01:11
knobHey guys... I installed apache in a 14.04 server.      All good.   Yet if I visit  www.myDomain.com   it redirects me to   http://server.ip.addy               Any idea where I need to change something?01:11
BeldarLisac196, fstab, blkid will show yo the correct UUID01:11
etronikwafflejock, guess I'll have to continue this tomorrow... its past 2am in here.... :-/ thanks for all your help01:11
ranger82_ip addr show - shows eth0 is up01:11
timhansenLisac196, /etc/fstab01:12
wafflejocketronik, np have a good night sleep you'll feel better working in the.... afternoon01:12
Loshkiranger82_: ah, then look at the output, in particular, the 4th line should say something like: UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST  MTU:1500  Metric:101:12
BeldarLisac196, from 2013 but relevant on mounting / http://askubuntu.com/questions/392720/the-disk-drive-for-tmp-is-not-ready-yet-s-to-skip-mount-or-m-for-manual-recove01:12
ranger82_yes01:13
ranger82_it sayd01:13
ranger82_it shows UP01:14
Loshkiranger82_: ok, next is to check the routing table. netstat -rn. Should be 5 lines of output01:14
alipoor90nomodeset didn't fix it, i think the driver is OK because only mouse cursor shows up but remaining area of screen is black01:15
ranger82_empty01:15
Loshkiranger82_: also, for completeness, what is the ip address & netmask of the interface, and of the nearest gateway?01:16
ranger82_route -n is also empty01:16
ranger82_privat ip - 10.40.10.33 255.255.0.0 10.40.0.101:16
Sna4x81wofflejock: Well, I'd paste the network HAR but newegg.com still hasn't loaded.01:16
Sna4x81Get this, if I copy some of the long-running network requests (all of the *.newegg.com requests) as cURL and try those, they take just as long with cUrl.01:17
Loshkiranger82_: ok, you can add routes manually for testing, but if your interfaces file is good, this should happen automatically. I suggest you reboot & then come back01:17
alipoor90nomodeset didn't fix it, i think the driver is OK because only mouse cursor shows up but remaining area of screen is black01:17
ranger82_i rebooted many times..did not help..eth0 comes as down every time01:17
Sna4x81wofflejock: http://pastebin.com/rrnXkKv2 <-- That takes ~15 seconds.01:17
Loshkiranger82_: ok, then lets try the following: route add -net 0.0.0.0 gw 10.40.0.101:18
knobHey guys... I installed apache in a 14.04 server.      All good.   Yet if I visit  www.myDomain.com   it redirects me to   http://server.ip.addy               Any idea where I need to change something?01:19
Sna4x81wofflejock: I don't get it.  Same cURL from a different machine on my network gets a lightning-fast response.01:19
Loshkiranger82_: then, route add -net 10.40.0.0 gw 0.0.0.0 eth001:19
ranger82_SIOCADDRT: No such process01:19
Loshkiranger82_: using sudo?01:20
ranger82_yes01:20
Lisac196Beldar: i have follow everything but i cant edit /etc/fstab01:21
Lisac196it says error XDG_RUNTIME_DIR not set in the enviroment01:22
Loshkiranger82_: sorry, I'm stuck at this point. The only thing left I can think of is to check your interfaces file.01:22
ranger82_ok01:23
daftykinsranger82_: have you manually edited interfaces?01:23
BeldarLisac196, You said this was a server do you have X or is this all cli?01:24
Loshkiranger82_: Here is mine: http://paste.ubuntu.com/8041035/01:24
Lisac196i put server and other one01:24
Lisac196in instalation01:25
Loshkiranger82_: does yours look like this?01:25
Loshkiranger82_: and what version of OS are you running? I'm on 12.04.01:25
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Lisac196Beldar: should i reinstal and don't put server?01:26
solarflyranger82_ does ifconfig show that each interface has a device configured?  If so, do you have definitions in /etc/network/interfaces01:27
BeldarLisac196, The question is, is fstab wrong and do you have a desktop, or just the term inal?01:27
Lisac196just terminal01:27
ranger82_yes01:27
BeldarLisac196, Did you check the uuid with blkid and the fstab is incorrect?01:28
shahandoes anyone here know go?01:28
Lisac196i checked UUID but can't see what is in fstab01:28
BeldarLisac196, cat /etc/fstab01:28
shahan"go run: cannot run non-main package"01:28
solarflyranger82_ can you paste your interfaces file on http://codepad.org or similar01:28
solarflyand the output of ifconfig -a01:29
Beldarshahan, Not really ubuntu support related, there must be forums or channels somewhere.01:30
Lisac196Beldar: in fstab: /host/ubuntu/disks/root.disk / ext4 loop,errors=remount-ro 0 101:30
ranger82_solarfly: http://fpaste.org/125420/97980514/01:30
Lisac196swap.disk none01:30
BeldarLisac196, You seem lost am I right, do you know what the uuid is?01:31
Lisac196no01:31
Beldar!uuid | Lisac19601:31
ubottuLisac196: To see a list of your devices/partitions and their corresponding UUID's, run this command in a !shell: « sudo blkid » (see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LibAtaForAtaDisks for the rationale behind the transition to UUID)01:31
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Lisac196Beldar: when i write blkid i have uuid /dev/loop0 uuid 8a063b20-0b13-40e4-924e-825e4ca265df type=ext401:33
Lisac196but i don't know what with this01:33
solarflyranger82_ try adding the line :    broadcast 255.255.0.0    and another line   network 10.10.0.001:33
BeldarLisac196, That link shows how to find it with blkid and checking fstab.01:33
ranger82_ok let me try01:33
Loshkisolarfly: In case it helps, ranger82_ has no routes, and we failed to install them with the "route" command.01:35
BeldarLisac196, If you run blkid in the terminal you will see the partitions with UUID after that is a set of numbers and letters, in fstab they should be the same on each partition.01:36
solarflyroute is above the link level, Loshki. From what I gather, he doesn't have link01:36
Lisac196Beldar: but i don't have in fstab any UUID01:36
Lisac196how can i change that?01:36
ObrienDaveLisac196, pastebin your fstab01:38
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solarflyLoshki: first you need to be able to get an arp packet out to all the other devices attached to your own subnet. This is why a router needs to live on the same subnet(s) as the systems it routes packets for01:38
BeldarLisac196, Not sure of your set up, I don't recognize uuid /dev/loop001:38
solarflyLoshki: to be able to do that, the netmask and broadcast domain need to reflect the network, and in this case (according to his interfaces file) it's a /1601:39
Lisac196Beldar: i have more /dev/sda1 ntfs and /dev/sda3 vfat01:39
solarflyranger82_   for broadcast I meant to type  10.10.255.25501:41
Lisac196ObrienDave: /host/ubuntu/disks/root.disk / ext4 loop,errors=remount-ro 0 1    /host/ubuntu/disks/swap.disk none    swap   loop,sw  0 001:41
solarflyBeen a really, really long day01:41
BeldarLisac196, A error like you are getting that a running install can be a number of issues, hard to say, you need someone who has the patience and skills to go through every possibility, I have neither. ;)01:41
Beldarthan01:42
Lisac196ok01:42
Lisac196tnx for everything :S01:42
Lisac196bye01:44
solarflyLisac19601:44
Lisac196yes01:44
solarflyLisac196:  You don't need a uuid necessarily to mount filesystems01:44
Lisac196can you help me?01:44
solarflyIt's just a newer model, but the old way still works.  So you're mounting a file as a loopback here, I was just curious about that01:45
Lisac196solarfly: what must i do?01:46
solarflyLisac196 you wrote:  when edubuntu mounts it said that there are some serious errors during checking disks for /01:46
Lisac196yes01:47
weshweshweshGreetings01:48
solarflyIf the file is corrupt, the filesystem could be bad. But if the filesystem is ok, you can mount it read-only and manually run fsck on it.  But to step back even more, how are you installing this OS?01:48
solarflyIs it on a CD, or usb drive, or network install?01:48
Lisac196with wubi01:48
daftykinsugh WUBI01:48
Lisac196:D01:48
solarflyoh.01:48
daftykinsyou should never have touched that thing01:49
solarflyYeah... run away run away01:49
Lisac196ok01:49
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solarflySo a better solution would be to use an empty partition then install ubuntu on that partition01:49
Lisac196ok01:49
Lisac196i will try that tomorow01:49
solarflybut honestly if you're really new to Linux, why not just run a Live CD until you get used to it?01:49
daftykins^ or virtualise it01:49
solarflyYou don't want to blow up your computer by accident.01:49
Lisac196this is daughters laptop so it is no matter :D01:50
solarflyyeah ^^ daftykins suggestion is the best one actually.  Download virtualbox for free and make a virtual machine and install it that way01:50
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daftykinsLisac196: what's the plan exactly? are you wanting to move your daughter off of Windows?01:50
Lisac196yes01:50
solarflybleh, just nuke that sucker then !01:51
daftykinsLisac196: why? :)01:51
solarflyOne good format of the hard drive will patch windows for ya :)01:51
Lisac196i think edubuntu is better for her :D01:51
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Lisac196i will try everything tomorow01:52
sideup66can anyone here help me install emit on a linux pc01:52
Lisac196i go sleep01:52
sideup6614.04 desktop currently01:52
daftykins!info emit01:52
ubottuPackage emit does not exist in trusty01:52
daftykins!find emit01:52
ubottuFile emit found in allegro5-doc, calligraflow-data, cloud-init, crystalspace-data, crystalspace-doc, csound-doc, dia-shapes, docbook-defguide, fish, flightgear-data-models (and 103 others) http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?searchon=contents&keywords=emit&mode=&suite=trusty&arch=any01:52
Lisac196i go to work after 2 hours sleeping :D01:52
Lisac196by01:52
daftykins\o01:52
sideup66im kinda stuck sith its output, and cant find much documentation on what everything means01:53
sideup66pretty perplexed01:53
sideup66and daddykins, alot of the programs output doesnt have much documentation01:53
daftykinsyou're on your own then, we only deal with packages here01:54
sideup66if this is too much01:54
daftykinsanything unsupported, is unsupported01:54
sideup66well it is technically01:54
sideup66im just stating not very well01:54
sideup66apparently its active01:54
daftykinsit's only supported in ubuntu if it's got a package in the official repos01:54
sideup66in any case can anyone then reccomend a upnp streamer that can be streamed over web01:54
sideup66and will not require sse01:54
sideup66reason for strange req is that the cpu i plan on running this on is old and does not support that set01:55
sideup66both plex and xbmc require it01:55
bindaslt01:55
anonymous__#help01:55
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red1Hi, I just connected a sansa clip+ to my 14.04 box and it completely froze; alt+sysRq didn't even seem to respond. Can anyone point me in the right direction to figure out whats going on?01:56
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Beldarred1, a number of answers one being updated firmware, this is circa 2011, but I would check that. http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=179041901:59
red1Thanks Beldar02:00
icecube45Hey guys! I have a kind of odd problem (at least it seems so to me)02:00
Beldarred1, Why it's freezing ubuntu who knows.02:00
FLClhey guys i need help i'm in big trouble. :C I need to reinstall WIndows as UEFI because I messed up my linux install and now I need to send back my computer to get it fixed.02:00
daftykinsicecube45: do we have to guess or can you describe it? :)02:00
icecube45I'm unable to stream my webcam via my ubuntu server, however, it works fine in cheese (as recommended by the webcam page on the wiki)02:00
icecube45sorry daftykins was typing it out02:00
FLClHowever when I turn my boot mode into UEFI my computer is unable to boot from anything not even CD or USB02:01
daftykinsFLCl: failing to see the ubuntu relevance here02:01
FLClit only allows booting in legacy02:01
daftykinsFLCl: sounds unlikely, is it a custom build or a factory system?02:01
FLClI installed Ubuntu on this computer, which started the problem :/ its a factory system02:01
daftykinswhich make?02:02
FLClLenovo Y510p02:02
daftykinsah-har laptop, you should see a list of boot devices on the boot / exit page of the UEFI setup, FLCl02:02
FLClThe problem is I cant see any boot devices listed, they are only listed when I turn on Legacy support :/02:03
BeldarFLCl, Windows 8?02:03
daftykinsFLCl: with a USB flash drive plugged in whilst powered off, powering on and looking on said page should show each device twice, once for legacy once for EFI02:03
FLClI have tried that suggestion sir, It does not list it twice :C only once and thats only if i turn on legacy support02:04
icecube45If it helps to my case, I can pastebin the log of trying to run motion02:04
daftykinsFLCl: came with win8?02:04
FLClI will try and explain my situation fully, please give me a second to type this all out.02:04
daftykinsFLCl: executive summaries are nice02:06
icecube45something i'm not good at daftykins haha02:06
daftykinsicecube45: no experience on webcams i'm afraid :(02:06
icecube45that's too bad.. i've been stumpted02:06
icecube45this is so fucking weird.. works fine with cheese and such.. motion complains about an unsupported palette02:08
icecube45something about "GRBG"02:08
daftykinskeep it family friendly please02:09
Beldaricecube45, err no swearing here please.02:09
icecube45My bad mate02:09
icecube45I shall now replace all swears with the word "kitten"02:09
Jeremy3Dinstalled 14.04 Trusty with no problems so far.  Clean install, went through my typical updates afterwards.  Seems faster too...02:09
Jeremy3Din case anyone was interested...02:10
enjoiwhere is ubuntu installed by default on 14.04?02:10
BeldarJeremy3D, They might be in #ubuntu-offtopic02:10
daftykinsFLCl: if it's gonna be long, type it up on paste.ubuntu.com then link us :)02:11
mitchelwbI think I borked up my video driver(s) today.  Not positive.   I smelled something hot, thought it was my video card, tried to update the drivers.  Turns out I needed a new PSU, and now my machine boots, I log in, and Unity won't load.  Any ideas?02:11
Beldarenjoi, Not a clear question in any way. ;)02:11
Jeremy3Dshoot Beldar my bad whats topic here?02:11
enjoiwell I am making an firefox.desktop file02:11
BeldarJeremy3D, Support basically.02:11
FLClOkay sir I will do that02:11
Jeremy3D10-4 Beldar ty02:11
FLClalmost done02:11
enjoibut I need to know where the firefox executable is02:11
daftykinsJeremy3D: support questions only, no random chat - as much as we love to know you're getting on well02:11
Jeremy3D:)02:12
daftykinsmitchelwb: pastebin /var/log/Xorg.0.log please02:12
Beldarenjoi, Why on the desktop, what FF version and from whom?02:12
enjoiBeldar, had to do some custom tailoring to get my juniper vpn working with firefox so I don't have to go crawling back to windows for work02:12
enjoihttp://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=206752102:12
enjoithis is what I am doing, but since I already have firefox installed im just going to use the executable path to my current installed FF rather than install another out-dated one02:13
FLClHere guyes02:13
FLClhttp://paste.ubuntu.com/8041324/02:13
FLClI believe that is what you wanted?02:13
mitchelwbdaftykins, is there a way to do that from the terminal (I can only get to ctrl-alt-f1)02:13
FLClI would also like to mention i currently have no OS installed now :C02:14
daftykinsmitchelwb: sure, if you have an active internet connection, "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install pastebinit" then "pastebinit /var/log/Xorg.0.log"02:14
mitchelwbsweet... hang on.02:14
BeldarFLCl, Ask lenovo for the oem disc set probably will provide them cheap.02:15
FLClI am worried they will void my warranty :C also I dont believe that will help seeing as how I cannot boot from USB or CD02:16
daftykinsFLCl: can you take a picture with a camera of each of your EFI setup screens and share them online?02:16
mitchelwbdaftykins: looks like http://paste.ubuntu.com/804133402:16
FLClwhen i enable uefi support02:16
daftykinsmitchelwb: and can you confirm the graphics hardware from 'lspci' ?02:16
FLClI'm sorry what exactly is the EFI setup screen?02:17
BeldarFLCl, So what are you going to load there to fool them, I think they are on your side basically. Booting a disc or usb is probably a user skill issue.02:17
Beldarunless it is broken02:17
daftykinsFLCl: the setup screens you go into to configure boot mode etc etc02:18
kzsudo: error in /etc/sudo.conf, line 0 while loading plugin `sudoers_policy'02:18
kzsudo: /usr/lib/sudo/sudoers.so must be only be writeable by owner02:18
kzsudo: fatal error, unable to load plugins02:18
FLClOkay Dafty, thank you for the help I will upload now. Give me a few mins.02:18
daftykinsFLCl: possibly your Lenovo has a special button you press when powered off to boot and enter the setup, otherwise it's likely a key like delete, F2, F8, F10, F12... the usual02:18
enjoinvm, seems to work fine with firefox, no ,desktop shortcut needed02:19
enjoiwoop woop02:19
mitchelwbdaftykins: I think the line you're looking for is: 04:00.0 VGA compatible controller: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD/ATI] RV770 [Radeon HD 4850/4870]02:19
enjoijuniper vpn success on ubu 14.04 yayyyyyy02:19
Beldarthe manual will say FLCl key02:19
enjoithis makes me so so so so happy lol02:19
anonymous9037611what version?02:20
FLCldafty02:20
FLClbefore I upload the pictures I think i should mention thast02:20
FLClI just noticed that after removing all the os's on this computer, and going into bios and switching to UEFI support only I now have the option to boot into USB02:21
FLClbut only USB02:21
FLClnothing else is listed02:21
daftykinsmitchelwb: ah-har, you've got an old 4-series card that's only supported by the legacy radeon driver now i believe.02:21
antiPoPHi,02:21
BeldarFLCl, Hit the tab key after typing dafty to get the nick correct.02:21
holenjoi: what version of juniper vpn are you using?02:21
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daftykinsFLCl: USB in EFI mode?02:22
mitchelwbdaftykins: yeah, I think you're right... And I realized that AFTER I tried to install newer drivers today.  I tried to back it out, but apparently, I took a wrong turn at Albuquerque.02:22
antiPoPWhile updating ubuntu I got a few strange errors, I googled for tehse but I didn't got any info. Is this something I shoudl worry about? Here are the update logs: https://gist.github.com/antiPoP/d97e0d70407fb325590502:22
FLCldaftykins:yes sir02:22
FLCldaftykins: i will be done uploading pictures soon02:23
wahbenHey Ubuntuers, question: I want a specific service that managed by rc.d to execute as a specific user instead of by root.02:23
wahbenhow to do?02:23
daftykinsmitchelwb: whoops :D ok, i'd only be guessing which to install, i'd google for radeon legacy and 14.04 i think to see what you can do. from the log you can see it's failing then trying to use FBDEV, which isn't going to allow 3D and thus doesn't let Unity work02:23
daftykinswahben: disable it from rc.d then look if it can be executed as a user, then find the binary and run it02:24
wahbendaftykins: .. obviously, but I want it to run as a service when system boots, just not with root02:24
mitchelwbdaftykins: let me see if I can find it again.  I had it up earlier on my machine, but I'm on a different machine now so I'll have to try and relocate it.02:25
wahbencan't you change user id in init.d script?02:25
daftykinswahben: perhaps a course of action could be suggested why you're trying to do something so ass-backwards :>02:26
daftykins+if you share02:26
icecube45HOLY KITTEN!02:27
icecube45daftykins: no idea what I did02:27
icecube45guess what's working?02:27
daftykinsworld peace!?02:27
icecube45NO!02:27
icecube45hehe02:27
daftykins;) glad to hear it02:27
icecube45streaming02:27
icecube45i dont even know02:28
wahbenmeh.. nevermind, thanks for suggestion though.02:28
wahbenpeace02:28
icecube45Actually.. I might know what happened02:28
icecube45added my user to the video group02:28
icecube45haha02:28
FLCldaftykins: Hey sorry im taking so long its taking forever to upload. here is one of the pictures tho. This is with legacy support turned on. http://oi62.tinypic.com/2ez49rd.jpg02:28
FLCldaftykins: And here is with only uefi http://oi58.tinypic.com/2h4xoj5.jpg02:29
daftykinsah yes that's looking better, in the first02:29
daftykinsoh, well in both :>02:29
daftykinsFLCl: what's on the USB flash drive right now?02:29
icecube45hey daftykins, new question. best way to run scripts upon startup?02:30
daftykinsicecube45: no idea :)02:30
icecube45good!02:30
FLClcurrently the usb contains elementary os02:30
_unreal_hello. ok I can noit shut down this computer with out it feezing and having to force shutdown. 14.04 LTS desktop02:30
FLCldaftykins: THE USB CONTAINS ELEMENTARY OS02:30
FLCldaftykins:sorry for the caps02:30
_unreal_I know it froze on install on a network card driver error I believe02:30
wafflejockicecube45: have you typed start up in the lens02:30
daftykinsFLCl: zomg caps, my ears! ok, so you want win7 and ubuntu eventually, yes? dualboot?02:30
icecube45whatnow wafflejock?02:31
wafflejockicecube45: oh you mean when a streaming server starts?02:31
wafflejockicecube45: just caught the end of that conversation02:31
icecube45no, system startup02:31
FLCldaftykins: yes sir ^.^ i would like both installed under efi if possible02:31
_unreal_any way it searchnig any logs? that would give a clue why the  computer is feezing every time I try to shut it down02:31
wafflejockicecube45: oh yeah so are you using a desktop environment, Unity, Gnome, KDE?02:31
daftykinsFLCl: do you have another computer?02:31
icecube45wafflejock: 14.04 server02:31
FLCldaftykins: yes sir, I am on it currently02:32
Panikhey02:32
icecube45so. no to the desktop environment02:32
daftykinsFLCl: ah good stuff, so you're going to want to make up that flash drive with win7 SP1 EFI bootable02:32
icecube45hey Panik, whadup02:32
Panikif I have to install ndiswrapper and the source pc doesnt have internet access... can i do it via windows then throw it on a usb and vala?02:32
_unreal_also TERMINAL is not giving me a command prompt. its totally blank02:32
PanikI mean, I assume i can, just wondering if there is any probelsm with doing it that way02:32
daftykinsFLCl: make sure that on the other setup pages, 'secure boot' is disabled if it is present02:33
FLCldaftykins: Im sorry im rather noobish, how would i make it efi bootable?02:33
wafflejockicecube45: think you need .bashrc but ubottu has no ifno02:33
wafflejockinfo*02:33
icecube45mm02:33
icecube45Can't I just drop a script into init.d?02:33
icecube45or init02:33
wafflejockicecube45: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuBootupHowto02:34
_unreal_?02:34
daftykinsPanik: you can pass the .deb's over, but you should be 100% sure there's no better way before resorting to ndiswrapper02:34
FLCldaftykins: secure boot is currently disabled sir, how should i turn the Windows 7 into efi bootable02:34
daftykinsFLCl: see PM02:34
daftykinsas we are drifting into Windows support territory right now, and here be dragons.02:35
Panikits what my manufactors is suggesting to do02:35
daftykinsPanik: really? that's terrible, what wireless device is it?02:36
mitchelwbdaftykins: I believe this is the correct driver  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RadeonDriver  But the part about purging fglrx seems to be a sticking point.02:36
daftykinsmitchelwb: did you attempt to install any AMD driver from their website, or fglrx package when you were updating earlier?02:37
wafflejockicecube45: looks like that document is a bit dated but it links to an up to date guide for the upstart cookbook02:37
mitchelwbdaftykins: the fglrx one, yes.02:37
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icecube45yea, wafflejock I found rc.local02:38
daftykinsmitchelwb: was that via package or download?02:38
Psil0Cybinhey guys if i am backing up my home folder and am copying all the files over, do i need to access it as root on the computer to copy it? or can i just copy and paste on to the ext4 thumbdrive.02:38
daftykinsPsil0Cybin: user is fine, but ideally you'd do it from a live session so no files are locked/in use02:39
mitchelwbdaftykins: package.  I don't have the url of the page that I got the instructions from now though.02:39
Psil0Cybindaftykins, i have an encrypted home directory so i cant do it via live cd..02:39
Psil0Cybinwhat is the next best method?02:39
daftykinsyou could if you then unlocked the home in the live session02:39
daftykinsmitchelwb: "dpkg -l | grep fgl | pastebinit"02:40
Psil0Cybindaftykins, is there a guide on doing that? I am new, never done that before...so I dont want to make mistakes, nor i guess flood this channel; asking for basic help questions02:40
Psil0Cybinregarding that issue02:40
Psil0Cybinunless its a simple process?02:40
mitchelwbdaftykins: http://paste.ubuntu.com/804148402:41
daftykinsPsil0Cybin: i'm too sane and un-worried about my cat pictures to use encryption02:41
daftykinsmitchelwb: yeah, "sudo apt-get remove --purge fglrx* " then - be sure you include that * at the end02:41
NordomHello, I installed a package for Xen. And it had a grub file that came with it. Somehow I bugged it and caused my system to crash so I removed the grub using grub customiser. I fixed the issue and now I need that grub back. I dont know what was on the grub I deleted and guides haven't been very helpful on how to set that up. Is there some way I can remove Xen and reinstall it to get it back?02:44
NordomI tried udo apt-get remove xen-hypervisor-amd64 but it didnt seem to remove it02:44
daftykinssudo apt-get install --reinstall <package>02:44
NordomDaftykins thanks I will try that02:44
Psil0Cybindaftykins, lol, so what would i do when i boot the live CD to mount the home directory...its located in the default partition sets, so it does not have a seperate directory or anything funky yet..until I learn how to do these things of course, but....02:46
Psil0Cybinyou suggested i can just mount the home directory and copy it via the live cd?02:46
TJ-Psil0Cybin: In the Live ISO environment, "sudo apt-get install ecryptfs-utils" and then "ecryptfs-recover-private /home/$USER". See "man ecryptfs-recover-private" first!02:46
Psil0CybinThank you TJ-.02:47
Psil0Cybinhmmm it keeps saying Collecting Files when I just tried to copy and paste from the home directory onto the thumb drive, sigh..lol02:48
mitchelwbdaftykins: I did purged the fglrx (that was a slightly different command from the instructions linked on the driver page) and then did a reinstall of mesa-utils and a reboot and I seem to be back in business!02:48
TJ-Psil0Cybin: Abandon the GUI and embrace the terminal shell  :)02:49
Psil0CybinTJ-, nvm it worked now, and i should....I think I need to start compiling my own documents on what i do so I remember all these steps you guys tell me...its all golden!02:49
evolyHello! Why do i get the message "bash: cowsay: command not found" if i try to run cowsay as root? Cowsay as normal user works, but not as root... This is not a serious problem but i'm just curious about why this does not work.02:50
Psil0Cybinlast question how can i double check that my permissions copied over properly, i guess..just on the home directory type ls -l and then do the same in the terminal of the dir of the backup?02:50
Psil0Cybinyea the GUI is telling me "Can't copy special file"02:51
daftykinsmitchelwb: excellent :D02:51
TJ-Psil0Cybin: unless the copy is destined for a file-system that doesn't store POSIX/*nix permissions (such as NTFS or FAT), then permissions should be the same02:51
Psil0Cybinokay cool02:52
Psil0Cybinyea i am using ext4. ty02:52
TJ-Psil0Cybin: "Special files" are usually things like FIFO pipes02:52
Psil0Cybinso i should be fine correct...it looked like a gnome thing anyway..02:52
Psil0CybinI really only want to back up my information/themes/icons/ssh keys/gpg keys02:53
Psil0Cybininformation is easy to back up...but the rest, is in the home directory correct?02:53
TJ-Psil0Cybin: This is a reason for working directly from a Virtual Terminal (VT) when doing these kind of operations, because the GUI will be using several files within the home directory for live activity.02:54
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TJ-Psil0Cybin: If you only want to preserve data you created, in *general*, copying everything except 'dotfiles' (files and directories beginning with a "." that 'hides' them from directory listings by default) is sufficient. If you want settings and configurations from the applications you use, you must ensure you get the 'dotfiles' too02:55
Psil0CybinTJ-, thank you that answers actually my next few questions...thank you.02:56
TJ-Psil0Cybin: In a terminal you can see 'dotfiles' by using the "-A" switch to "ls". In GUI there's usually an option to enable listing of 'hidden' files which does the same thing02:56
Psil0Cybinyea CTRL+H enables it... i am getting the .dot files, but i am worried that some of the files in use would be like SSH keys? If that is not the case then i am fine regardless...02:56
Psil0Cybini am not using anything just copying stuff over, so i was assuming the stuff thats locked is mostly stuff for the current system02:57
daftykinsyou're not copying them graphically? :S02:57
Psil0CybinI am, i was told i could open up thunar, and just copy and paste into the thumb-drive? as one way of backing up?02:57
Psil0Cybinshould i not be?02:57
TJ-Psil0Cybin: No, files are generally only held open when being actively written to, or read into memory. The files that are likely to be cause issues are desktop-environment control files for inter-process communication - which you can ignore02:58
daftykinsflash drives != backup02:58
Psil0Cybindaftykins, ill do what ever you recommend, if i should not do it via the GUI then fine, just what would be the command to copy my directory into the thumbdrive :( sorry...guys, i know i am being very stupid atm but when I google, i find 1000 of methods of doing things, and i come here because i know you guys recommend the best lmao02:58
daftykinsTJ-'ll sort you out :) i have to sleep now, i'm punching out for the night ;)02:58
Psil0Cybinbut off google it just says make a ext4, and copy and paste with the .files that are normally hidden02:58
TJ-Psil0Cybin: Graphically will generally be a *lot* slower than a terminal shell, because the tools spend ages building internal lists of files ands trying to present a graphical representation too... whereas the shell just gets on with the job02:59
daftykinsTJ-: ^502:59
Psil0CybinTJ-, Makes plenty of sense, what would be the best command to copy them over... a simple cp?02:59
TJ-Psil0Cybin: Also, when things go wrong, the GUI often gets in the way of identifying *what* was the exact cause.02:59
Psil0Cybincp (dir of home) (dir of backup)?03:00
TJ-Psil0Cybin: We have a tool for that! "rsync" ... it is designed for efficient synchronisation of two directories, usually one is on a remote server, but can be used just as well locally. So you could do, for example: "rsync -av /home/$USER /media/$USER/USB/home/$USER/" (assuming "/media/$USER/home/$USER/" exists!)03:01
Psil0Cybinoh wow!03:02
Psil0Cybinwell maybe at the moment if your saying i should be fine, I will just copy and paste and learn more about that for next time, all i really want is my SSH keys/GPG keys, stuff like that..should be easy to back up regardless..03:03
TJ-Psil0Cybin: slight correction here, to avoid creating an additional directory in the destination: "rsync -av /home/$USER/ /media/$USER/USB/home/$USER/"03:03
Psil0Cybinwow thanks i need to look into rsync!03:03
Psil0Cybinnever even knew this stuff exist03:03
TJ-Psil0Cybin: the keys are in "/home/$USER/.ssh/" and "/home/$USER/.gnupg/" I think03:04
Psil0CybinTJ-, silly question gpg keys are stored in the home directory as well, as the SSH ones correct? like I know for a fact .ssh should be what i need03:04
Psil0Cybinoh wow...ur amazing03:04
Psil0Cybinlol!03:04
Psil0Cybini just died03:04
TJ-Psil0Cybin: I think we have a telapathic connection :)03:04
PCworkerHello, I am looking for a program or a set of commands to be able to copy a partition and all its files to another hard drive. Or clone one disk to other disks. Anyone have any ideas on this subject?03:05
TJ-PCworker: "sudo dd if=/dev/sdX9 of=/path/to/file.img bs=1M"03:05
daftykinsclonezilla - PCworker03:05
BeldarPCworker, +1 clonezilla03:06
TJ-PCworker: to clone a disk - assuming the target is the same size or larger than the source: "sudo dd if=/dev/sdX of=/dev/sdY bs=1M"03:06
PCworkerCan I get that from Software center or apt-get?? (clonezilla)03:07
daftykinsPCworker: downloadable bootable ISO too03:07
PCworkerTj: I am going to try your command as well, I need to learn more about the terminal.03:08
PCworkerdaftykins: gotcha, thanks03:08
s1cknesso/03:10
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evil_dan2wikHow long is the 'patch' command supposed to take?03:10
s1cknessAnyone use ubuntu 14.04 here guys ?03:10
TJ-evil_dan2wik: You ran it without piping it a patch didn't you? :) press Ctrl+C and then show us the command you're trying to use and we'll correct it03:11
evil_dan2wikinitrd@initrd-Aspire-xxxx:~/usbasp.2011-05-28/firmware$ sudo patch /home/initrd/Downloads/usbasp-pdi-usbaspfirmware-20120816.diff03:11
Beldars1ckness, There are only two supported releases %50 chance here people are.03:12
evil_dan2wikTJ-, ^03:12
TJ-evil_dan2wik: firstly, you shouldn't need sudo. Secondly the .diff file probably contains directory levels you'll need to tell 'patch' about with its "-p X" argument, and thirdly we use it from the base directory of the files we are patching like: "patch -p1 < /home/initrd/Downloads/usbasp-pdi-usbaspfirmware-20120816.diff"03:14
s1cknessBeldar, Ok thanks .. lol03:14
evil_dan2wikok03:14
evil_dan2wikoh, that worked, thanks03:14
icecube45weird03:17
Psil0CybinQuick question guys after coping my home directory into a thumbdrive (ext4) i checked my permissions and on the home directory on my computer the same folder that is drwx-----  is now drwxrwxr-x is that normal?03:19
Psil0Cybinor is that fine or are all my permissions messed up?03:19
somsipPsil0Cybin: how did you copy? Did you use whatever flag it is to preserver permissions?03:21
Psil0Cybinsomsip, no i used thunar in root..and copied and pasted it into an ext4, and everyone said i should be fine03:21
Tedelhello, has anybody tried to create a calendar as a "template" for korganizer/kontact? see, I have about 20 tasks which repeat over and over again on all the projects I need to manage, so I created an ical of all those tasks and saved it on one file, with the intention of importing it (merging) with the main calendar every time I get a new project. has anybody tried this successfully? I just tried, but it failed.03:21
Psil0Cybinsomsip, would that not work?03:21
somsipPsil0Cybin: depends how the ext4 is mounted, but maybe "everyone" will have an answer for you03:22
eeee_Psil0Cybin: cp -p03:22
eeee_cp changes permissions, mv doesn't (unless across volumes)03:23
LoshkiPsil0Cybin: they're slightly messed up, but the new permissions are more generous than the old ones, so most of the time it won't matter. A few programs e.g. ssh are fussy about directory permissions and may complain. You can fix them as you encounter them. Or do the copy all over again with better software...03:23
Psil0CybinLoshki, well i really only want them for SSH and stuff like that, so how would I recopy it using cp - p (home folder) (folder of backup?)03:24
LoshkiI prefer "rsync -av", not least because it has a "dry run" option....03:24
somsipPsil0Cybin: in this case, better software might be rsync03:24
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Psil0Cybinsomsip, so i would (rsync -av /home/$USER/ /media/$USER/USB/home/$USER/)03:25
Psil0Cybinwhat would be the best method to use rsync in order to make sure i copied it over properly so i may not deal with problems down the road03:27
somsipPsil0Cybin: I use rsync -rtlDvu but you'd have to check what they all mean 'cos I don't remember. But your command looks okay in itself03:27
LoshkiPsil0Cybin: rsync -n -av --partial --progress  /home/$USER /media/$USER/USB/home  <--- note shorter path for destination, and use of -n03:27
Psil0CybinLoshki, what does the n do? sorry, i guess ill have to go through the man page03:28
Psil0CybinI just want tostart coping it over while i do that03:28
LoshkiPsil0Cybin: -n is a dry run. When you're happy the args are correct, remove it to do the actual copy...03:29
vigooim having 64bit ubuntu 14.04 with a ralink rt5360. it detects wifi but does not connect. keeps asking for password and never connects. any idea what to do folks?03:29
Tedeldoes anybody know how to duplicate tasks on kontact?03:30
LoshkiPsil0Cybin: if you're very lucky, rsync will notice that only the permissions have changed, and it will fix them without a bunch of copying.03:30
eeee_Psil0Cybin: and if you're very unlucky it will think the size and mod time are the same and not do squat03:31
eeee_:D03:31
Psil0CybinLoshki, okay wait so i just run the command you said  rsync -n -av --partial --progress  /home/$USER /media/$USER/USB/home03:32
Psil0Cybinand if it works good remove the -n03:32
Psil0Cybinand i should be good to go? and my permissions should be good?03:32
LoshkiPsil0Cybin: exactly, and then you should be good to go, and the permissions should be correct. You will need to spot check a few of them to be sure, of course.03:32
Psil0Cybinokay good :D03:33
icecube45hmm03:33
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Psil0CybinLoshki, what does the dry run do, test that it can actually copy the files over? its showing me all the files..03:34
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LoshkiPsil0Cybin: You could log the output as it runs, in case you have questions later.03:34
Psil0Cybingoing down the list, so once it completes and it has no major error messages i would just remove the -n?03:34
LoshkiPsil0Cybin: dry run does everything except the actual copy. If it looks ok, then yes, just remove the -n03:35
Psil0CybinLoshki, thank you guys, i really appreciate this..03:36
LoshkiPsil0Cybin: it worked?03:36
Psil0CybinWell its working at the moment via the dry run, its showing all my files03:36
Psil0Cybinokay trhe dry run finished03:37
Psil0Cybinit said03:37
Psil0Cybinrsync error: some files/attrs were not transffered (see previous errors) (code 23) at main.c(1183)03:37
LoshkiPsil0Cybin: you might wanna redo the dry run, log the output, then check the particulars of those errors...03:38
Psil0Cybinhow can i write the output to a file, because it seems to cut off the top part of what it copied over..03:39
LoshkiPsil0Cybin: rsync -n -av --partial --progress  /home/$USER /media/$USER/USB/home | tee logfile.txt03:40
Psil0Cybinthank you Loshki you are a big help. btw.03:40
Psil0CybinLoshki, like spoons?03:40
LoshkiPsil0Cybin: see the pipe "|" symbol? It's not a typo...03:40
LoshkiPsil0Cybin: Apparently. You speak Russian?03:40
Psil0Cybin:D03:41
CHUPULXIIBi speak tirixta03:41
CHUPULXIIBi love to guzzle diarrhea03:41
CHUPULXIIBdon't you?03:41
Psil0CybinLoshki, i do speak russian. ;) good guess.03:41
CHUPULXIIBi like it when niggers stick their asses in my face03:41
antiPoPwhere can I see ufw logs?03:41
CHUPULXIIBand spray their diarrhea03:41
CHUPULXIIBniggerdiarrhea is the tastiest fecal matter I have ever had03:41
CHUPULXIIByou all should travel out here to ferguson, mo to try some03:41
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Psil0CybinCHUPULXIIB, you here to sturr up the blood and the masses eh?03:41
msxhello guys, i just noticed my telepathy-indicator is gone (14.04.1 up-to-date here), any1 else?03:42
LoshkiPsil0Cybin: No need to feed the troll. The ops will take care of it.03:42
Psil0CybinYea you rright, but thank you i will try the dry run again and log the files, its prob the GUI files that are in use03:43
Psil0Cybinright?03:43
LoshkiPsil0Cybin: whenever I've had copy errors like that it's usually been something unimportant, but it never hurts to check. The only thing worse than a corrupted backup is no backup at all...03:44
Psil0CybinLoshki, you are correct, thank you for giving me this advice, it really would save me the stress / be worth it to be double checking prior to nuking my drives.03:44
LoshkiPsil0Cybin: In my experience, nothing relieves the stress of doing system mods like knowing you have a good, solid backup03:46
binoburrcobbhdwzup peeps im a new user too linux is pretty cool03:48
Psil0Cybinyou are right Loshki exactly, that is why I am glad i came here and ask these questions I know I ask silly ones...but this is how I learn :)03:49
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binoburrcobbhdSO HOW IS EVERYBODY DOING TONIGHT!!!03:51
wafflejockbinoburrcobbhd: great are you having issues if not you might want to try #ubuntu-offtopic03:51
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binoburrcobbhdNO JUST CHECKING IF IT WORK PROPERLY LOL03:51
wafflejockbinoburrcobbhd: this chat is meant for support issues really not general chat the offtopic channel is good to just generally chat03:51
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Psil0CybinLoshki, question and i think i should have asked this before, i do not need to run rsync in root or what ever, just the command you provided should be fine right? like i do not need to do anything funky ?03:53
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LoshkiWell, this *is* a support group and beginners are welcome. I don't find your questions silly, and even if I did, I would try to be gentle.03:53
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Psil0Cybinhaha thank you, because as you can tell this is my first backup :D be gentle..03:53
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Psil0Cybinbut i guess I should be fine , like running it in root would not do anything03:54
Psil0Cybini was just wondering if it had access rights to copy certain files, but i guess that is what the dry run would explain etc, right?03:54
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LoshkiPsil0Cybin: See what the dry run says. If you have sufficient permissions to read the files from the source directory and write them to the destination you can get away without root. If not, then run it as root. If you own the files you are backing up, running as root may be overkill but it pretty much forestalls any permissions problems. Of course, root can write anywhere, so you need to be a little more careful before you hit return...03:58
antiPoPHi, I have installed ufw and seems it's running, but when I reboot it's not longer active and I need to manually start it03:58
antiPoPwhat I'm doing wrong?03:58
Psil0CybinLoshki, wow i love linux, and i love that commands dry run system!04:00
Psil0Cybin<304:01
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LoshkiPsil0Cybin: in general, the command line is where the big boys play. GUIs are for windows users...04:01
Psil0CybinLoshki, well that is what I am learning :) 2 years into Linux, completely without any windows partitions...I even dropped photoshop for gimp, so soon the terminal is all i will use.04:02
lyyy中文 有会的吗04:02
xubuntu_me04:02
lyyyhello04:03
xubuntu_ni hao04:03
lyyyxbuntu 支持3d吗04:03
lyyynihao04:03
LoshkiPsil0Cybin: there are always one or two windows apps I can't seem to manage without. For those I either I use wine, or virtualbox. No sense being puritan about these things...04:04
xubuntu_zhi chi ,zai luntan kan ren peizhi guo04:04
Loshki!cn04:04
ubottu如欲獲得中文的協助,請輸入 /join #ubuntu-cn 或 /join #ubuntu-tw04:04
xubuntu_shurufa mei nong hao04:05
Psil0CybinLoshki, virtualbox! See I never even thought of really running it because I have been managing with out windows, but actually the only thing I need from Windows or Mac is Unity, for Gaming Development.04:05
LoshkiHmm. Quite a compact written language. That takes about 3 lines in a romance language..04:05
Psil0Cybinthat would be phenominal, but they said as unity gains steam they might add a linux engine shortly04:05
Psil0CybinLoshki, loll04:06
Psil0Cybinokay home folder backed up I think its time to format and install xubuntu 14.0404:07
tableshow do i create an ubuntu live usb from ubuntu?04:07
LoshkiPsil0Cybin: One last step. Please stand by...04:07
LoshkiPsil0Cybin: Optionally, run diff -r /home/$USER /media/$USER/USB/home and just verify it says the two trees are identical...04:08
Loshkitables: like this one? http://www.instructables.com/id/How-to-make-your-own-Ubuntu-LiveUSB/04:10
testerrHi all. I'm following some comments at http://stackoverflow.com/a/11686912, trying to give a default value to a bash variable if it's not yet set. I'm using '${VAR:="foo.sh"}', trying to set VAR equal to the string "foo.sh", but bash is trying to execute "foo.sh" when I do so. Anyone here have a better solution to recommend?04:13
testerr(*It's to set an environment variable if it's not yet set)04:14
testerrAh, got it -- I was missing a colon.04:20
BeldarPsil0Cybin, So tell me, have you regretted yet not having proper backups or a clone of 12.04 yet?04:21
LoshkiBeldar: And you told *me* off for being sarcastic yesterday...04:25
BeldarLoshki, It's not sarcasm, just wondering if they are learning from all of this help.04:27
LoshkiBeldar: it04:28
LoshkiBeldar: it's an interesting question. But we're more like an ER here than a doctor's office.04:28
BeldarLoshki, I have been here for years.04:29
alfonsojonHello04:29
alfonsojonI installed Ubuntu 14.04 on my Power Mac G4, but it boots to a black screen with a cursor.04:29
Beldar!nomodeset | alfonsojon04:30
ubottualfonsojon: A common kernel (boot)parameter is nomodeset, which is needed for some graphic cards that otherwise boot into a black screen or show corrupted splash screen. See http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1613132 on how to use this parameter04:30
alfonsojonIt seems lightdm is not loading correctly, any suggestions?04:30
jaymakerHello everyone!04:30
alfonsojonBeldar: I will take a look, thanks04:30
ttalany idea why mounting my raid drive to /mnt/ doesnt show up in the file browser under devices?04:31
alfonsojonBeldar: how can I boot using that from yaboot?04:32
alfonsojonMy Mac is a PowerPC, so it doesn't use Grub04:32
ttalbut when I mount to /media/ it shows up.04:32
Beldaralfonsojon, The link is for a grub mod, so probably not. Grub should be involved somewhere, not sure the answer.04:33
TakkunCan someone help me install ubuntu?04:33
alfonsojonDarn.04:33
Takkunguys?04:34
alfonsojonBeldar: I got it, a quick Google search sent me on the right path04:35
Beldarcool04:35
alfonsojonIt is booting now04:35
TakkunBeldar: can you help me out friend?04:36
lotuspsychje!patience | Takkun04:36
ubottuTakkun: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. While you wait, try searching https://help.ubuntu.com or http://ubuntuforums.org or http://askubuntu.com/04:36
BeldarTakkun, Tell the channel the issue, f I recognize it I will try.04:36
Beldarif*04:36
wafflejockTakkun: where are you trying to install and what version?04:37
TakkunBasically I have two hard drives in my computer, an SSD and a normal 1tb hard drive. I had Ubuntu installed on the SSD in legacy mode, but my entire boot got messed up so I reformated both hard drives. I currently have no os installed. I am trying to install Ubuntu onto the SSD however, it does not get detected only my normal hd does04:38
TakkunAny way to fix this?04:38
TakkunI have used Gparted to see all paritions, but it only shows my 1tbh hard drive04:39
wafflejockTakkun: you're using the 14.04 desktop install?04:39
BeldarTakkun, pastebin sudo parted -l04:39
TakkunCorrect I am using the 14.04 install and i will pastebin tht in a moment plz hold04:40
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wafflejockTakkun: are both drives internal as well? it might be worth disconnecting the secondary and just leaving the SSD hooked up to see if it's any different04:41
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Takkunwafflejock: yes you are correct sir, they are both internal inside a laptop.04:41
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BeldarTakkun, I suspect the ssd is a gpt and the TB HD is a msdos can you run that command and pastebin it?04:47
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stiv2k_is it possible to have passwordless ssh connection to my server04:50
_2_landayes it is b04:50
stiv2k_i want to be able to open my ssh terminal automatically without login, since the login is terminated every time the computer goes to sleep04:50
TJ-stiv2k_: Yes, using certificates04:50
TakkunBeldar: here is the pastebin http://pastebin.com/raw/php?!=nQ5AmhwP04:50
stiv2k_but my computer is windows using PuTTy04:50
stiv2k_and server = ubuntu04:51
_2_landaokay did u install that04:51
TakkunBeldar: sorry link doesnt work ill make a new one04:51
stiv2k_install what04:51
TJ-stiv2k_: See "man ssh-copy-id"04:51
stiv2k_TJ-: ok04:51
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TJ-stiv2k_: ignore _2_landa , it's an IRC 'bot04:52
BeldarTakkun, You have to hit submit04:52
TakkunBeldar: here it is :) http://pastebin.com/nQ5AmhwP04:53
stiv2k_lmao04:53
stiv2k_what the hell04:53
stiv2k_i need to reformat my server04:54
stiv2k_im still using ubuntu 12.10 on it04:54
BeldarTakkun, I assume the SSD is more than 8gigs and not a USB, it is not showing.04:54
stiv2k_then again, i have bigger problems, my server is a pentium 404:54
stiv2k_i need new hardware entirely04:54
TakkunBeldar: correct the SSD is 25 gigs and not showing :C04:54
cfhowlettstiv2k_, you can still run i386 server 14.0404:54
TakkunBeldar: what should i do :C?04:55
TJ-Takkun: check in the system firmware in case it has been disabled04:55
stiv2k_cfhowlett: i want to lower my power consumption ...... or at least get more computing power per kW04:55
TakkunTJ-: Sorry sir, how do i do that?04:55
BeldarTakkun This is there, /dev/sr0 read-write (Read-only file system).  /dev/sr0 and note TJ-'s comment04:55
stiv2k_i keep it under 100% load04:55
stiv2k_this one has been running for about 2 years now04:55
kryptonradonI'm looking for 32 bit compatability libs for 14.04, I can't find libfreetype04:56
TakkunBeldar: Yeah i noticed that too. I'm not really sure how to do what tj has recommend.04:56
TJ-Takkun: Beldar 'sr0' is the SCSI name for a read-only CD-ROM device04:57
cfhowlett!info libfreetype04:57
ubottuPackage libfreetype does not exist in trusty04:57
TJ-Takkun: investigate the system's firmware Setup options when the PC is switched on04:57
stiv2k_TJ-: can i do ssh-copy-id on a windows machine04:57
TJ-stiv2k_: Not unless you have cygwin installed04:58
BeldarTJ-, I thought it might be but the unrecognized disk label I did not recognize, thanks.04:58
TakkunTJ-: that makes alot of sense :/, are the systems firmware settings the same thing as the bios settings?04:58
TJ-Takkun: Yes :)04:58
kryptonradon!info libfreetype604:58
ubottulibfreetype6 (source: freetype): FreeType 2 font engine, shared library files. In component main, is optional. Version 2.5.2-1ubuntu2.2 (trusty), package size 293 kB, installed size 878 kB04:58
TakkunTJ-: thank you sir :) i don't believe thats the problem :C seeing as how the bios also does not list the ssd, and there is no option to disable :C04:59
TJ-Takkun: It is unusual that the system firmware can disable a device such that Linux cannot see it; You could have a device that has got a fault04:59
kryptonradonI need the 32 bit lib for 64 bit system?04:59
TakkunTJ-: Do you thin the ssd might have broken?04:59
lotuspsychjeTakkun: wich brand is your ssd?04:59
cfhowlettkryptonradon, 32 bit will run if no 64 bit version is available05:00
Takkunlotuspsychje: I am not sure sir :C it came preinstalled on this laptop05:00
lotuspsychjeTakkun: wich laptop plz?05:00
TJ-Takkun: If even the firmware doesn't report finding it, either it has become disconnected or it has broken. I'd be investigating if it is possible to open the flap that covers where the SSD is installed, remove it, then reseat it carefully to ensure a firm physical connection05:00
kryptonradon32 bit program needs libfreetype605:00
TakkunTJ-: i have searched through the bios options, the ssd is not listed and there is no option to disable any devices05:01
TJ-kryptonradon: If the system has the foreign architecture i386 configured it is possible to install 32-bit libraries with "apt-get install <package>:i386"05:01
kryptonradonthe problem i have is i don't know the name of the package05:02
TJ-Takkun: Try the second option then - physical refit05:02
lotuspsychjeTakkun: you bought a laptop with ssd inside that doesnt work?05:02
lotuspsychjeTakkun: wich laptop brand, and wich Os was preinstalled on it?05:02
Takkunlotuspsychje: The ssd used to work, its jus tht i installed ubuntu on it, and then erased it and now its no longer detected :/ Its a lenovo y510p and windows 8 was preinstalled05:03
lotuspsychjeTakkun: did you check uefi settings?05:03
TJ-Takkun: You said earlier you "reformatted both drives" - how, exactly, did you do that?05:03
TJ-Takkun: Is Secure Boot or Rapid Boot enabled in firmware? try disabling them05:04
TakkunTJ-: secure boot is indeed disabled, and i reformated by inserting a WIndows 7 install disc and deleting the partitions and reformated them from there05:04
lotuspsychjeTakkun: did your ubuntu setup recognize your ssd?05:10
TJ-Takkun: "reformatting" ... you mean you deleted the partition entries in the partition table and re-added them?05:10
TJ-Takkun: Have you powered the laptop down completely since doing that?05:10
TakkunTJ-: Correct sir I have powered it down completely, and correct that is how i reformated them05:10
TJ-lotuspsychje: Apparently so - Ubuntu was installed on the SSD05:10
TJ-Takkun: I go back to doing a physical re-fit of the SSD05:10
Takkunlotuspsychje:yes it recognized it, it actually wouldnt let me isntall it anywhere besides the ssd05:10
TakkunTJ-: i am not able to physically re-fit it as it would void the warranty05:10
MrSaltWhat's a good open source news source on the web?  It seems like there's a bunch of stuff going on that I keep missing.05:10
lotuspsychjeMrSalt: omgubuntu05:10
cfhowlettMrSalt, so much ... sign up for the ubuntu newsletters www.opensource.com05:10
cfhowlettwww.reddit.com/r/ubuntu       /r/linux05:10
lotuspsychjeTakkun: did you try a firmware upgrade from windows on your ssd?05:10
MrSaltIt might seem silly, but sometimes I get closed up in my little world.  I hadn't seen the opensource.com page.  I've looked at omgubuntu from time to time.05:10
Takkunlotuspsychje:my firmware is currently the latest05:10
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lotuspsychjeTakkun: did you see special ssd software in windows?05:11
TJ-Takkun: Please carefully read https://forums.lenovo.com/t5/X-Series-ThinkPad-Laptops/Error-when-trying-to-format-my-22GB-SSD/m-p/1449465/highlight/false#M5572705:11
Takkunlotuspsychje:what do you mean by special software05:11
lotuspsychjeTakkun: well some ssd brand deliver ssd software to 'tune' or accelerate from windows05:11
MrSaltI remember reading the "H", but I guess that's gone now.05:12
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lotuspsychjeTJ-: nice find!05:12
TJ-Takkun: It doesn't help that you currently have no Windows OS to use to extract that bootable image from. It might be possible to hack it from Linux05:13
TakkunTJ-: thanks friend. I guess i will go install windows now :C05:13
TJ-Takkun: don't do that yet!05:14
lotuspsychjeTakkun: what happened exactly after you installed ubuntu on your ssd?05:14
TJ-Takkun: You first need to confirm the SSD in your laptop is made by Toshiba05:14
TJ-Takkun: Then we can look at extracting the bootable USB image from that Windows executable file05:14
TJ-Takkun: OK, it should be easy to create the bootable image from Linux - it's a just a bootable DOS image05:16
TakkunTJ-: how would i confirm this? I am looking at the lenovo website and it doesnt list wht brand it is05:16
TakkunTJ-: do you mean i should use like virtual box to install windows?05:16
TJ-Takkun: look inside the laptop at the label on the SSD, if it is accessible05:16
cfhowlettTakkun, virtualbox still requires a working OS05:16
TJ-Takkun: No, you don't need Windows. Please be patient, I am creating a bootable USB image for you from the Win7.zip file.05:17
TakkunTJ-: im rly sorry for being troublesome, :( also i cannot open the laptop05:17
TJ-Takkun: OK, then you'll need to wait for me to get this ready for you, so you can boot the laptop with a USB drive connected, and test it that way05:18
alfonsojonHello05:18
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TakkunTJ-: okay thank you friend05:19
alfonsojonI am running Ubuntu 14.04 on my Power Mac G4 with an ATI Radeon 9000 Pro. When I boot using "radeon.modeset=1 video=radeonfb:off radeon.agpmode=4", I can make it to the login screen but it hangs after a few seconds.05:21
cfhowlett!mac | alfonsojon05:21
ubottualfonsojon: For help on installing and using Ubuntu on a Mac, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MactelSupportTeam/CommunityHelpPages05:21
alfonsojonIt is installed already cfhowlett05:21
Beldaralfonsojon, Has that computer ever run ubuntu, seems a bit low in needed hardware?05:24
alfonsojonYes, 12.04 ran fine05:24
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alfonsojonAlso, Lubuntu 13.10 ran on it too05:24
Beldaralfonsojon, It seems lubuntu would be much better05:25
alfonsojonBut I am stuck at LightDM05:25
alfonsojonDoes Lubuntu not also use LightDM?05:25
alfonsojonI found that radeon.nomodeset=1 should not be used05:26
alfonsojonAnd now it does not hang, but I still cannot log in.05:27
alfonsojongnome-session-flashback just loops back to lightdm05:27
kernel13is there a way to generate preseed file from existing server..just like kickstart file in centos. i need for cobbler.thanks05:27
cfhowlettkernel13, great question!  IDK but ask #ubuntu-server05:28
jakesylhey, wheres the dev channel?05:28
cfhowlett!devel | jakesyl05:29
cfhowlett#ubuntu-devel05:29
somsipjakesyl: #ubuntu-devel05:29
jakesylthanks!05:29
kernel13cfhowlett:thanks05:29
cfhowlettkernel13, happy2help05:29
TJ-Takkun: Just about to test it here05:30
TakkunTJ-: thanks friend :)05:31
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crazyhorse18i'm not longer able to mount an external hdd05:35
crazyhorse18https://gist.github.com/anonymous/ddea4e00220f3bad174a << this is the errors i get05:36
crazyhorse18sudo mount /dev/sdf1 /media/test2 << however this works05:36
crazyhorse18can anyone explain what the issue could be?05:36
Beldarcrazyhorse18, What is the file system?05:37
crazyhorse18ext405:37
crazyhorse184.0 TB ext4 and there's also a 5.2gb FAT05:38
Dreadneckma250505:38
crazyhorse18interestingly the only other thing i did yesterday was an sudo apt-get update, sudo apt-get dist-upgrade.. i don't know if that's related05:39
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crazyhorse18beldar: did any of that help?05:42
crazyhorse18could it be a change to apparmor that's causing the problem?05:43
TJ-Takkun: Having some issues proving the image is bootable in a virtual machine, do you want to continue waiting?05:49
TakkunTJ-: i dont mind the wait i just feel bad for troubling you05:50
TJ-Takkun: argh! I used the wrong image file like a dufus! give me a couple more minutes :)05:51
TakkunTJ-: np x3305:51
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TJ-Takkun: OK, tested, working, and ready! You need a USB flash drive available that can be overwritten, and be at the terminal shell prompt05:58
TakkunI have a flash drive ready ^^05:59
TJ-Takkun: 1) download the file: "wget http://iam.tj/projects/misc/ssd_fw_up.img"05:59
TakkunTJ-: i have downloaded it06:01
Takkunbrasero does not seem to detect it tho06:01
TJ-Takkun: next, identify which device name the USB flash drive has... usually you can tell by doing "ls -l /dev/disk/by-id/usb-*"06:02
TJ-Takkun: You don't need brasero06:02
Takkunthe flash drive it called sandisk ^^06:02
TJ-Takkun: On my system that command shows me "/dev/disk/by-id/usb-SanDisk_Cruzer_Micro_20060775000A7FF0D518-0:0 -> ../../sdc"06:02
TJ-Takkun: So I now know the device is "/dev/sdc"06:02
TJ-Takkun: on your system it will likely be a different name06:03
TJ-Takkun: what is the device name on your system?06:03
_Kyon_Que pedo putos06:03
_Kyon_de donde son?06:03
TJ-!mx | _Kyon_06:04
TJ-!es | _Kyon_06:04
ubottu_Kyon_: En la mayoría de los canales de Ubuntu, se habla sólo en inglés. Si busca ayuda en español entre al canal #ubuntu-es; escriba " /join #ubuntu-es " (sin comillas) y presione intro.06:04
netlar14.04 is so much more stable than 13.0406:04
TakkunTJ-: tht command does not seem to work for me06:04
TJ-Takkun: you get no result?06:04
Narutolol06:05
TakkunTJ-: i get the error no such file or directory06:05
Narutocai06:05
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_Kyon_ey TJ-06:05
_Kyon_where you from vato?06:05
TakkunTJ-: sorry it works now06:05
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TJ-Takkun: OK :) what's the deivce/06:06
Ben64_Kyon_: this channel is for ubuntu support only. for other things, join #ubuntu-offtopic06:06
TakkunTJ-: i seem to get two results06:06
_Kyon_Ya esta la calabaza06:06
TakkunTJ-: here is the output chanu@chanu:~$ ls -l /dev/disk/by-id/usb-*06:06
Takkunlrwxrwxrwx 1 root root  9 Aug 14 02:00 /dev/disk/by-id/usb-SanDisk_Cruzer_20060876901194B1427D-0:0 -> ../../sdb06:06
Takkunlrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 10 Aug 14 02:00 /dev/disk/by-id/usb-SanDisk_Cruzer_20060876901194B1427D-0:0-part1 -> ../../sdb106:06
cfhowlett!es | _Kyon_06:07
ubottu_Kyon_: En la mayoría de los canales de Ubuntu, se habla sólo en inglés. Si busca ayuda en español entre al canal #ubuntu-es; escriba " /join #ubuntu-es " (sin comillas) y presione intro.06:07
_Kyon_[Ben64] que pedo contigo quieres un zape en la cabeza? xD06:07
TJ-Takkun: Yes, you will... OK, the device is /dev/sdb  ... sdb1 is the 1st partition on sdb06:07
TJ-Takkun: Now do "sudo dd if=ssd_fw_up.img of=/dev/sdb"06:07
_Kyon_gracias cfhowlett06:07
_Kyon_very friendly vato06:07
Ben64_Kyon_: stop the offtopic and offensive comments06:07
TakkunTJ-: i get the no such file or directory error06:08
_Kyon_[Ben64] comete un sniker we06:08
cfhowlett_Kyon_, behave or be gone06:08
netlarEven the video driver just worked06:09
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TJ-Takkun: You downloaded the ssd_fw_up.img using 'wget' as I showed? Then it should be in the current directory. Check with "ls -al"06:09
TakkunTJ-: im sorry the command no works since i moved locations to the downloads folder06:09
OERIAS_Kyon_, por favot vayase al canael de #ubunut-es06:09
TakkunTJ-:now*06:09
TJ-Takkun: Where is the ssd_fw_up.img ? You need to 'cd' (change directory) into the directory where that file is06:10
izaberais there a way to see keyboard shortcuts associations? for some reason ctrl+alt+t is not bringing up a terminal anymore06:10
izaberain system / keyboard it's still set correctly06:10
TJ-Takkun: OK, so the "sudo dd if=..." command worked ?06:10
TakkunTJ-: sorry correct it works06:10
coolstarI have ubuntu running on my system, but the trackpad doesn't appear to be working06:11
coolstara USB mouse works but I'd want the trackpad to work too06:11
coolstarI have the Acer C72006:11
coolstar(yes it's a chromebook)06:11
TJ-Takkun: OK :) So reboot the system with the USB plugged in, the system should suggest a key you can press to get to the boot menu (often the key is F11 or F12), then select the USB device and boot.06:11
somsipcoolstar: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2190187 (first link on a search, and there are others)06:12
TJ-Takkun: That'll boot to the FreeDOS operating system which will automatically run the firmware updater, which will first check for the SSD, and if it is supported, it will offer to do the update06:12
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TakkunTJ-: Ur one of those mad geniuses arent you x3 soo cool ^^ give me one sec plz i will do that now x306:13
TakkunTJ-: i have ran the usb and it says this pc does not need an updated firmware06:14
TJ-Takkun: That's not helpful, but it does suggest that the tool recognised that there is a Toshiba SSD installed, yes?06:18
Takkuni think it would be safe to assume tht indeed06:18
Takkunor perhaps it has no relation06:19
Takkun:D06:19
Takkun:C06:19
TJ-Takkun: I ran it here and it told me there was no supported SSD in the system06:19
Takkunoh06:19
TJ-Takkun: so it sounds as if it found such a device in your system, checked the firmware version, and found it is already the correct version06:20
Takkunokay then yes i think its safe to assume that toshiba would be the brand06:20
TJ-Takkun: This doesn't help you of course... let me hack the files on that image in case it is possible to force it to reinstall the firmware06:20
TakkunTJ-: one more question06:20
TakkunTJ-: how do i become a godly programmer like u x306:21
TJ-Takkun: spend years and years hacking06:21
cfhowlettTakkun, you must first purify yourself in the waters of Lake Minetonka.06:21
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TJ-Takkun: You saw the message "This PC does NOT need an updated Firmware." I guess?06:22
malkauns_cfhowlett: no, river ganges06:22
malkauns_:P06:22
cfhowlettmalkauns_, ewwwwwww!06:22
alfonsojonDoes Kubuntu 14.04 use LightDM or KDM?06:22
cfhowlettalfonsojon, kdm06:22
alfonsojonGreat06:22
malkauns_cfhowlett: LOL06:22
TakkunTJ-:correct06:22
cfhowlettalfonsojon, KDE actually06:22
malkauns_alfonsojon: lightdm06:22
malkauns_oh06:23
malkauns_Kubuntu06:23
malkauns_yea KDE06:23
* rww sighs06:23
* malkauns_ goes to bed06:23
rwwKubuntu uses lightdm. KDE's moving away from KDM.06:23
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TJ-Takkun: did it also show "Target[FWVer = %s, BinFileName = %s]" and "Local[FWVer = %s, BinFileName = %s]" with the version numbers filled in?06:23
alfonsojonOh. Darn.06:23
alfonsojonIs KDM still supported for now?06:24
TakkunTJ-: no sir06:24
TJ-Takkun: OK, that must be part of another option in the program then06:24
rwwalfonsojon: it's in Ubuntu's repositories, yes06:24
alfonsojonLightDM doesn't behave on my Power Mac06:24
alfonsojonIs there an alternative you would suggest?06:24
TakkunTJ-: do you think its possible that i can call lenovo and call them to replace the ssd?06:25
cfhowlett!mac | alfonsojon, the mac ubuntu, ubuntu mac or mac-tel projects would know more.06:25
ubottualfonsojon, the mac ubuntu, ubuntu mac or mac-tel projects would know more.: For help on installing and using Ubuntu on a Mac, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MactelSupportTeam/CommunityHelpPages06:25
TakkunTJ-: perhaps they would agree since its a hardware problem and not a software one06:25
rwwdoubtful06:25
rwwalfonsojon: I'd ask #kubuntu or #kde06:25
alfonsojonThat covers Intel Macs06:25
rwwalfonsojon: there's another one some KDE people use, but it's slipping my mind :(06:26
TJ-Takkun: Definitely - it has failed in a way that is already known06:26
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TakkunTJ-: do you think they will blame it on ubuntu?06:26
cfhowlettTakkun, everything gets blamed on ubuntu/shuttleworth06:26
alfonsojoncfhowlett: Mactel: Intel Mac06:27
TakkunTJ-:they once told me that installing linux does not void my warranty and that they would still provide me with hardware support but that they would not provide me with nay software support unless i reinstalled windows 806:27
alfonsojonTakkun: that sounds correct06:27
TJ-Takkun: that is good, Windows isn't needed to sort this afterall06:28
TakkunTJ-: okay I will call them tomorrow i guess. I was worried thatt they wouldnt agree because i called them earlier today, and they said they wanted to remotely control my computer to check to see if it was perhaps a software problem06:29
TakkunTJ-: and i didnt tell them i have linux installed i just said i'd call back later x306:29
cfhowlettTakkun, well that sounds ... "legit" ...06:29
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Takkuncfhowlett: wht do you mean06:30
cfhowlettTakkun, remote control of my PC?  I think not ...06:30
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Takkuncfhowlett: xD NSA can already do tht!06:31
Takkunim glad i dont need to install windows T.T06:31
cfhowlettTakkun, true.  anyway - on to ubuntu topic!06:31
Takkuni blame this all on windows06:31
alfonsojonTakkun: what is the issue?06:31
Takkunalfonsojon: it's a long story T.T i'm going to just ask lenovo to replace my ssd and move on with my life06:32
alfonsojonWhat is the issue?06:32
alfonsojonBad blocks?06:32
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Takkunmy ssd does not show up anymore06:32
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TJ-Takkun: One thing to check before talking to Lenovo. In the Firmware Setup, check that Intel Rapid Storage option is disabled06:33
TakkunTJ-: yes sir it is disabled ^^06:33
TJ-alfonsojon: There's a known issue with Toshiba SSDs where the firmware gets corrupted and the device isn't seen by the system (firmware or OS). We've checked using the Lenovo/Toshiba SSD firmware updater and the device doesn't need the firmware update06:34
Psil0CybinReformatted TJ- much better.06:34
alfonsojonNever trust Toshiba hard drives06:35
alfonsojonNever.06:35
Psil0Cybin:o06:35
Psil0Cybinthanks for the hdups06:35
TJ-Psil0Cybin: :)06:36
TakkunTJ-: I'm not sure if this question is appropriate for this irc channel, but could you perhaps give me tips to becoming as good as a programmer like you? esp so i can handle linux as well as you?06:36
dohzerCan anyone recommend some software to synchronise files between devices (desktop, laptop, usb thumbdrive, etc)?06:36
TJ-Takkun: years of hard hacking with hardware and software06:36
sadistic1hearthi all06:36
cfhowlettTakkun, wide question: allow me to suggest www.fullcirclemagazine.org   download and follow the very many programming tutorials06:36
TJ-Takkun: never be afraid to tinker and ask "how?" and "what if?"06:36
cfhowlettTakkun, and "you break it, you fix it"06:37
sadistic1heart any one into BDSM in here????06:38
Takkuncfhowlett: thanks for the link friend ^^, any other good resources to get me started? :)06:38
cfhowlettTakkun, http://www.linuxlinks.com/article/20090405061458383/20oftheBestFreeLinuxBooks-Part1.html06:38
TJ-Takkun: I've found this: this is the direct Lenova page for the SSD tools: http://support.lenovo.com/gb/en/downloads/ds03464606:39
TJ-Takkun: According to the notes with that it covers more than just Toshiba SSDs06:39
linuxuz3ranyone knows how to take a screenshot in ubuntu window fullscreen and selection06:40
TJ-Takkun: I'd download the bootable ISO image, use 'dd' to write to your USB flash drive, and then reboot using it and test again... worth trying, if it avoids having to return the PC and get a replacement06:41
TakkunTJ-: but thts for thinkpads06:41
TakkunTJ-: i have an ideapad, does tht make a difference?06:42
trijntjelinuxuz3r: just use the screenshot app that is installed by default06:42
TJ-Takkun: Well that came up as I was looking at the downloads for the Y510P06:42
linuxuz3rok06:42
linuxuz3rhow about a tool to write with a tablet on the desktop06:43
TJ-Takkun: the program checks the SSD versions... it won't do anything invasive without asking permission, so there is no harm trying it06:43
TakkunTJ-:since its an iso is it okay if i use brasero or do i have to use dd06:43
TJ-Takkun: 'dd' is quicker - you're writing to a USB06:44
TJ-Takkun: "sudo dd if=file.iso of=/dev/sdb bs=1M; sync" and you're done06:44
trijntjeTJ, Takkun, dont run that command unless you are sure /dev/sdb is your usb drive06:45
TJ-trijntje: We know it is already06:45
TJ-Takkun: reading the notes for the ISO, it isn't certain it'll boot from USB... the install notes only talk about writing to a physical optical disk06:46
dotDebdd is amazing06:46
dotDebway better than any frontend06:46
TakkunTJ-: i will try the usb jus in case06:47
TJ-Takkun: Are you 100% sure that Y510P *has* an SSD!? I ask since I'm reading the Leonvo engineers service manual and it shows no SSD nor anywhere for one to fit!06:48
TakkunTJ-: that might be because i got my y510p when it was on sale, and they were giving the ssd for free06:49
TakkunTJ-: i know for a fact an ssd is there06:49
TJ-Takkun: I can't see a space inside for it, that's the weird part06:49
TakkunTJ-:the site even list an option to pay to install an additional ssd06:49
TakkunTJ-: i believe its installed in the ultra bay drive06:50
TJ-Takkun: The only thing mentioned is a 1TB hybrid drive (combined spinning disk with flash cache), 5,400rpm06:50
TJ-Takkun: Ahh, found it! 256GB SSD06:50
TakkunTJ-: i knew i wasnt going crazy x306:52
abhishek__I want to install ubuntu in blade that will go for production.Please give me tips for partition.I am planning to give /boot swap and / partitions only06:53
TakkunTJ-: the usb didnt work going to try on a dvd now06:53
TJ-Takkun: No, wait!06:53
Blue1might want to create a seperate /home partition - makes upgrading software a lot easier06:54
TJ-Takkun: I've just read in the Lenovo support that, and this is very weird, the SSD may not be seen in EFI mode! I don't know how accurate that is, but if the system is booting in EFI mode (as the Ubuntu Live ISO may be doing) that could explain this!06:54
abhishek__Blue1 thanks should I consider lvm over xfs ?06:55
Blue1abhishek__: I use lvm  -06:55
TakkunTJ-: i dont believe its booting in efi06:55
TakkunTJ-: there was a seperate option to boot into efi mode06:56
TakkunTJ-: also i have installed the os now, and am sure its not in efi06:56
TJ-Takkun: So, I'd suggest rebooting with the Live ISO and making sure the UEFI firmware has Compatibility Support Module (CSM) enabled and at the manual boot device menu, if there are 2 choices for the Installer device, try to determine which is the CSM BIOS and which the EFI, and choose the BIOS06:56
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TJ-Takkun: OK... that shoots that idea down then! You can check if it is in EFI mode with "ls -l /sys/firmware/efi/" ... that will exist if in EFI mode06:56
abhishek__Blue1 default / partitions will create /home directory . this will not changed at least for five years06:57
TakkunTJ-: it says no such file or directory06:59
Takkunalso i believe the SSD can be see in efi mode because when i had wins 8 on this machine it was able to see it06:59
TJ-Takkun: So, it is in BIOS mode then. OK, so its back to the "return to manufacturer" option I think07:00
TJ-Takkun: I'd have expected it could, but it was worth investigating07:00
SyriaHi, after using this command "sudo openvpn --config vpnbook-euro1-tcp80.ovpn" I get this "Segmentation fault (core dumped)" i don't know why!07:00
TakkunTJ-: true :) i guess i'll just call them up then, i hope they arent jerks07:01
boichevIf I have a script that forks to do its job and now the load average is 10 on a 4CPU machine.... will it run faster if I make it to fork 4 times and lower the cpu load average to be between 3.5 and 407:01
Syriaanyone can help me with this openvpn thing please.07:02
ObrienDavesyria, hang on a sec07:03
cfhowlett!ask | Syria, that lack of response = give the details.  No telepaths in the channel07:04
ubottuSyria, that lack of response = give the details.  No telepaths in the channel: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience07:04
ObrienDaveSyria, i'll send you a link for install instructions07:04
TJ-Takkun: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=220969407:04
boichevSyria I got problems like this because of wrong server:port syntax07:04
cfhowlettSyria, doh!  you did give details... pardon my snark, please.07:05
SyriaObrienDave: I have it installed already, Also I am using the same command that I have used before, Usually it works but I got this one suddenly.07:05
ObrienDaveSyria, they change passwords often07:06
ObrienDavehttp://ubuntuhandbook.org/index.php/2014/05/establish-openvpn-connection-ubuntu-1404/07:06
TJ-Takkun: I'm also reading that the Ultra Bay Caddy that the SSD sits in could become physically disconnected. Remember what I said earlier about removing it and re-fitting it firmly - If it were me I'd be doing that now07:06
TakkunTJ-: are you suspecting thts its not faulty?07:06
jemandusHi, BIG prob: UNITY doesn't start after Login. Any clues?07:07
TakkunTJ-: you are probably right about refitting it however, i believe they said it would void my warranty to open it07:07
TakkunTJ-: i will let them do the refitting07:07
TJ-Takkun: I have no clear evidence yet, that's what I'm searching for.07:07
SyriaObrienDave: I usually type the user name then password but now i am getting this suddenly "Segmentation fault (core dumped)"07:08
TJ-Takkun: I thought the Ultra Bay is user-removable... it's just an interchangeable slot for additional devices.07:08
TakkunTJ-:correct however im not 100 percent sure thts where the ssd is07:08
TakkunTJ-: i assumed it would be there07:08
boichevSyria, can you show us your vpnbook-euro1-tcp80.ovp ( remove passwords/keys/ other sensitive data )07:08
TJ-Takkun: Take a look at this: http://www.mydigitaldiscount.com/PDFs/Tutorial-Replace-Lenovo-Y510P-Cache-Drive-with-MyDigitalSSD-Super-Cache-2-SSD.pdf07:09
TJ-Takkun: If it isn't in the Ultra Bay, this is where it will be07:09
volkanHi07:09
volkanWhen I try to install H.264 decoder, I get this error: http://pastie.org/9472399 How can I solve this problem?07:09
Syriaboichev: http://pastebin.com/xp2jHY2g  / I did not remove anything, It is a free account.07:10
TakkunTJ-: tht is indeed not the ultra bay07:10
TJ-Takkun: right, so there are 2 locations where it can be fitted :)07:11
TakkunTJ-: correct ^.^07:11
TJ-Takkun: I think the article I pointed you to is only for mini PCIe flash cache modules though. If your system has a 256GB SSD it'll be a 2.5" form-factor, and therefore have to be in the Ultra Bay because it is too big to go internally07:11
TakkunTJ-: i'm afraid to break it more >.>07:12
ObrienDaveSyria, i sent you the new password changed today07:13
TJ-Takkun: Ultra-Bay release is easy... watch this video (shows removing the ultra-bay GPU option) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V9LmpAoby4w07:13
SyriaObrienDave:  this is it "nUG7kewr"07:14
boichevSyria, .... no passwords on irc directly please :) keep it on private...07:14
SyriaObrienDave:  I will try establishing a connection using the tutorial you gave me.07:14
TJ-Takkun: If you do remove the ultra-bay you can get the exact make and model of the SSD, so we have more accurate info to investigate07:14
ObrienDaveSyria, that tutorial is the one i used07:15
TakkunTJ-: i will remove it right now one sec07:16
TJ-Takkun: We'll make a hacker out of you yet :)07:16
ObrienDavethe Gods weep ;P07:16
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SyriaObrienDave: Sorry about that, But this password is free and anyone can use it. :P07:17
ObrienDavenot to worry Syria07:17
TakkunTJ-: wow im dumb i just realized there is no way its in the ultra bay becuz thts where my cd drive is...07:17
TJ-Takkun: !! ... OK... so where is it then? It won't fit in the small flash-cache slot we saw07:18
hjdadhaniyahi07:18
ObrienDaveSyria, i just tested new password and it works07:18
TakkunTJ-: my internet is being rly slow but im trying to figure tht out now07:19
izaberais there a way to see keyboard shortcuts associations? for some reason ctrl+alt+t is not bringing up a terminal anymore07:20
izaberain system / keyboard it's still set correctly07:20
TJ-Takkun: It *must* be in the M.2 NGFF slot inside the case, and it must be a modern M.2 SSD rather than a hard disk form-factor 2.5" device07:20
TakkunTJ-:found it07:20
TakkunTJ-:http://forums.lenovo.com/t5/image/serverpage/image-id/39544iEC990A3D116F417B/image-size/original?v=mpbl-1&px=-107:21
TakkunTJ-: u see where it says SSD07:21
TJ-Takkun: Yes, that is the M.2 slot, just like in that PDF we looked at07:21
hjdadhaniyahi07:21
TakkunTJ-: thts apparently it07:21
TakkunTJ-: so insanely small07:22
TJ-Takkun: So, you've got a modern M.2 Interface 256GB SSD ... I'd whip the case cover off and give it a poke :)07:22
TJ-Takkun: Yeah, everything is when it is silicon only07:22
TakkunTJ-: i sadly dont have a screw driver this small :C07:23
TJ-Takkun: OK... let Lenovo sort it then :)07:23
TJ-Takkun: not much else we can do when it doesn't even show up to the party07:23
TakkunTJ-: i'm rly sorry for all the trouble ive put you thru07:23
hjdadhaniyahi07:23
TakkunTJ-: im going to head to bed for now friend. thank you for everything07:24
gnokhello everyone! I've a connector that enables use of a regular headset via a USB port but the kernel doesn't detect it correctly - "unknown kernel: [ 1465.543947] hub 2-0:1.0: unable to enumerate USB device on port 2" is logged in syslog.07:26
hjdadhaniyahi07:26
gnokOh and I'm running Ubuntu 14.04.07:26
hjdadhaniyahi07:27
TJ-gnok: The device isn't responding to USB initialisation07:28
TJ-gnok:  what is the USB device?07:28
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nightsanyone who know nginx well and is prepared to help config for some $$ ?07:36
gnokis there some other pastebin that I could try? I'm on a slow internet connection so paste.ubuntu.com, pastebin and paste.debian.net all don't respond :/.07:38
trijntjeif apt is stuck with some broken packages it cant configure bc of a  bug, is it safe to rm /var/cache/apt/archives to get things unstuck?07:41
trijntjei've already tried apt-get install -f and and apt-get remove package, but that didn't work07:42
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eudakimauhi07:44
eudakimauпривет07:44
Shadow}}Hi all; I'm hoping theres a freeware app for "live desktop recording", Both my audio and video.07:44
Shadow}}Documentations purposes.07:44
DJones!screencast | Shadow}} There's a few app's mentioned in the bot's link,07:45
ubottuShadow}} There's a few app's mentioned in the bot's link,: Some programs to capture your screen are Kazam, Vokoscreen & Simple Screen Recorder. Also ffmpeg/libav with x11grab option on the command line. Also see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ScreenCasts.07:45
Shadow}}Do they record audio simultaneously?07:45
DJonesShadow}}: Not sure, I would assume so, but you may need to try a couple to find the best one for yourself07:46
trijntjeif apt is stuck with some broken packages it cant configure bc of a bug, is it safe to rm /var/cache/apt/archives to get things unstuck?07:46
Shadow}}Very well; Thank you, DJones. o/07:47
cynicallemontrijntje: what packages(s) are broken or are you stuck with?07:50
trijntjecynicallemon: http://paste.ubuntu.com/8043108/07:50
cynicallemontrijntje: ah ok - /usr/share/kde4/apps/katepart/syntax/nesc.xml, its trying to overwrite an existing file which is shared by another package07:53
htmlhello everyone07:54
cynicallemontrijntje: i have had this before and usually get around it by renaming the offending file then the package should be ale to write its version and install07:54
trijntjecynicallemon: thats clever, I'll try that07:55
cynicallemontrijntje: no guarantees...07:55
sireorionhey i have no promission to change some files. It have al locker on it07:56
sireorioni have tryed all kind of stuff... but i think i need to write some at the terminal07:56
htmlhow do i copy  files from one local computer to a local server?07:56
eeeeeehtml: scp filetocopy user@remotehost:/path/to/destination07:57
cynicallemonhtml: assuming both machines have openssh then you coulc use scp on the command line or install filezilla for gui use07:58
htmlok how do i setup filezilla?07:58
trijntjecynicallemon: that didn't work sadly, looks like dpkg knows another package has that file and doesn't even check if it exists07:58
trijntjecynicallemon: hold on, something went wrong with moving the file, sorry07:58
Shadow}}How do I install a tar.gz?07:59
eeeeeeShadow}}: install ?08:00
cynicallemonhtml: software centre or "sudo apt-get install filezilla" in terminal08:00
JNixx_You decompress it08:00
htmlcynicallemon,  thanks, i alreasdy have it.08:00
JNixx_eeeeee: YOu decompress a .tar.gz file. It's an archive.08:00
eeeeeeShadow}}: do you mean you want to make a tar.gz or extract one?08:00
Shadow}}eeeeee; screencast's recordmydesktop. Extract? I downloaded the .tar.gz..08:00
JNixx_Shadow i mean :P08:01
Shadow}}Yes. But its a command-line only file, per se. All the info I have.08:01
bcvery!info gtk-recordmydesktop | Shadow}}, install from repos08:01
ubottuShadow}}, install from repos: gtk-recordmydesktop (source: gtk-recordmydesktop): Graphical frontend for recordMyDesktop screencast tool. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.3.8-4.1ubuntu1 (trusty), package size 118 kB, installed size 795 kB08:01
Shadow}}Thank you. What I'm used to, and love.08:02
Shadow}}Um... I meant to Delete the Highlighted tar.gz but I hit Delete All Files... In "/" :/08:03
eeeeee?08:04
Shadow}}All still there. Just thats not gonna cause problems later on,right? >->'08:04
chrissgHey folks. Updating a 13.10 *server* to 14.04 is done by apt-get update && do-release-upgrade ?08:04
Psil0CybinI also have another question if perhaps you can help me, when I try to SSH into my device after copying my keys over, it is asking me to enter my password via a GUI, but its Xubuntu 14.04 without Unity .. How can I get it to ask for my password like it used too on 12.04?08:04
sebastianlutterI need to install nginx, but I need to avoid that it tries to start on port 80 / 443 while it installes (ports are already used). Is there a way to tell apt-get that it should NOT start the service after installation?08:04
Psil0CybinI want to be able to enter my password via the terminal and not be asked via the GUI.08:04
Psil0CybinI was told yesterday if I reformatted and went with straight Xubuntu, it would not do this.08:05
eeeeeePsil0Cybin: get rid of the desktop manager maybe ?08:05
nibbler_oh i like.... "Moving files...08:06
nibbler_All done. Click to the link below to start database upgrade." next line: "Please fix this and retry."08:06
Shadow}}bcvery?...08:06
eeeeeenot sure, but maybe you could remove lightdm, and when you login in the terminal have startx in .bashrc and let it start your de08:06
bcveryShadow}}, Yes?08:06
eeeeee@ Psil0Cybin08:06
Psil0Cybineeeeee, how do i get rid of the desktop manager? so that I do not have to enter my pasword into the GUI for SSH08:06
Shadow}}bcvery: Can you type up the line I need to do that gtk-recordmydesktop?... I don't know how.08:06
Psil0CybinI didnt install a desktop manager for ssh eeeeee08:07
bcveryShadow}}, Yes, sorry: sudo apt-get install gtk-recordmydesktop08:07
Shadow}}bcvery: I forgot the the Install...-Sighs-08:07
trijntjecynicallemon: looks like moving the file didn't help, any other ideas08:07
htmlcynicallemon,   so how do i set up the server to connect to it? is there a ftp/scp/ssh server alreasdy installed and setup?08:07
* Shadow}} hits the extra the with a rum bottle.08:08
eeeeeePsil0Cybin: oh, nevermind, i didn't see your first post :)08:08
johnquebecis there anyone who can guide me to make a single file to double click and run teamspeak 3 client ?08:09
eeeeeejohnquebec: you can make an icon in the launcher that launches it, or you want a double clickable file?08:10
cynicallemontrijntje: i assume its the kate text editor youre trying to install or add too. maybe remove any kate stuff and reinstall...08:11
johnquebecdouble clickable file for now would be nice08:11
johnquebeci can run it by entering sudo path/teamspeak3-runscript.sh08:11
trijntjecynicallemon: I've tried that, but I cant do anything because it wants to complete the installation first08:12
cynicallemonhtml: assuming the destination machine has ssh installed then it just a matter of connecting to it via filezilla using a user/pass valid on that machine08:12
htmlcynicallemon,  ok i got it-but i have a 70 some mb zip thats not showing up. how do i ?08:13
chrissg"sudo do-release-upgrade -d" still gives me "No new release found" on 13.10 Server- even after apt-get clean/ update. Any ideas?08:14
iscorpionhello every one how can i upgrade ubuntu 14.04 to 14.0.108:16
iscorpion14.04.108:16
Psil0CybinSo would anyone know what i can do in order to remove the GUI when i am trying to access anything via SSH, I want to be able to type in my password in all the time via the terminal but what happens is it has a pop up asking me to unlock my key via the GUI which is a little troubling.08:16
johnquebecdid you try apt-get update ?08:17
CrypticSquarediscorpion: apt-get dist-upgrade?08:17
johnquebeci think its in Setting meny out there08:17
_ikke_I'm trying to get bonding to work under ubuntu, but it either says waiting for slave to join, or gives errors about files already existing for bond9. here is my interfaces: http://tinyurl.com/l4hwov9 . I was able to manually fix it now08:17
_ikke_any idea how I could fix it so that it works on boot?08:18
Tachyon`hi, I've atm got grub2 installed with its loader in the mbr, however, for reasons I need not go into, that's no longer useful, I want to install it to the superblock of the root partition, is that as simple as doing a grub-install /dev/sda6 or is there more to it than that?08:23
cynicallemontrijntje: well just do a sudo apt-get clean - that will flush the apt archives08:23
cynicallemontrijntje: also theres a bug report for this issue - https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/tinyos-tools/+bug/135593008:24
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1244291 in tinyos-tools (Ubuntu) "duplicate for #1355930 package nescc (not installed) failed to install/upgrade: trying to overwrite '/usr/share/kde4/apps/katepart/syntax/nesc.xml', which is also in package kate-data 4:4.11.2a-0ubuntu1" [Undecided,Confirmed]08:24
html_ikke_,  what is this machine purpose?08:27
_ikke_It's a server for various purposes08:27
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dragoswho like minecraft08:29
dragosnobody chat with me im so sad08:29
trijntjecynicallemon: thanks, looks like that solved it08:29
dreugeworstHi, I'm running ubuntu 14.04 and am trying to run /tmp, /var/run and /var/lock in ram. In debian I can do this by setting ramtmp, ramrun and ramlock to yes in /etc/default/rcS. However, the man page for rcS in ubuntu doesn't mention these options.. anyone know how I can do this in ubuntu?08:29
cynicallemontrijn08:30
cynicallemontrijntje: np08:30
dragosubuntu 12.04 dosen't detect my bluetooth08:30
dragosHi i'm running ubuntu 12.04 and i try to connect my wii mote via bluetooth but ubuntu says no adapters found but i have an adapter08:31
dragosHi i'm running ubuntu 12.04 and i try to connect my wii mote via bluetooth but ubuntu says no adapters found but i have an adapte08:35
* Tachyon` wonders how long he should wait after a question is ignored before asking it again..08:36
dragosHi i'm running ubuntu 12.04 and i try to connect my wii mote via bluetooth but ubuntu says no adapters found but i have an adapter08:36
bcvery!patience08:37
ubottuDon't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. While you wait, try searching https://help.ubuntu.com or http://ubuntuforums.org or http://askubuntu.com/08:37
dragosi try08:38
Tachyon`unfortunately icaros and its inability to play nice with other OS's isn't really a use case that would end up documented -.-08:39
dragosubuntu dosen't detect my bluetooth adapter08:40
Tachyon`does it show up on an lsusb?08:40
Tachyon`if not, the bt adapter may actyally be not working08:40
dragoson lsusb it shows08:40
Tachyon`then it is detecting it...08:40
Tachyon`it's just not using it for some reason08:40
dragoson ubuntu 10.04 it works fine08:40
Tachyon`anything in logs hinting itm ight need proprietary drivers?08:41
dragosdrivers is good08:41
Tachyon`oh well, that's me out of ideas -.o08:41
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Kacogood morning everybody08:48
Tachyon`well, it's morning, the jury is still out on good.08:48
[^DarkGod^]good morning Kaco08:49
Psil0CybinSo would anyone know what i can do in order to remove the GUI when i am trying to access anything via SSH, I want to be able to type in my password in all the time via the terminal but what happens is it has a pop up asking me to unlock my key via the GUI which is a little troubling.08:51
Psil0CybinI am using Xubuntu 14.04, but I did not think it would use a GUI for the SSH password input..08:52
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[^DarkGod^]Psil0Cybin if you are connecting using ssh you don´t need the GUI. Connecting via ssh has nothing to do with de GUI08:54
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Psil0Cybin[^DarkGod^], but I copied over my ssh keys from 12.04, and now when i type my command ssh user@ip.com it gives me a popup asking me to enter my password instead of letting me type it into the terminal like I am used too.08:55
Psil0CybinI want that same feature back like 12.04, I want to type it in the terminal and am confused why am getting the GUI pop up..08:55
[^DarkGod^]is your private key password protected?08:56
Psil0Cybinis that a one time password? i would use to unlock it? and then it would ask me via the terminal?08:56
Psil0Cybinwhat do you mean protected?08:57
Psil0Cybinwhen i clicked cancel on that gui screen it said pub key denied, because i was confused what it was08:57
[^DarkGod^]you should follow this tutorial08:57
[^DarkGod^]https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SSH/OpenSSH/Keys08:57
[^DarkGod^]i think that you configured your ssh auth only once while you were using 12.0408:58
[^DarkGod^]and now you don´t remenber that config08:58
Psil0Cybin[^DarkGod^], dang does that mean i cannot recreate that config? like I backed up my .ssh folder08:59
Psil0Cybinand thought i copied it all over..08:59
Psil0Cybinif I enter my password would it save it? or would it let me enter it in terminal every time after I type it in? I am confused09:00
anewwhen i sudo crontab -e, i set the crontab but it doesnt run?09:00
somsipanew: what is the crontab entry that is not working?09:00
anew0 */2 * * * perl /var/www/Users.pl09:00
somsipanew: does it run in terminal?09:01
anewyep09:01
anewif i just do perl Users.pl09:01
anewit works09:01
somsipanew: and what time are you expecting that to run?09:01
anewevery 2 hours09:01
somsipanew: any output in /var/log/syslog?09:01
anewlet me see09:01
Psil0Cybin[^DarkGod^], following that guide it says if follow it, it will make it so I wont have to enter the password in again, but the thing is I want too, every time.. I connect like I did in 12.04 but in the terminal not the GUI09:02
anewnope... how do i make it every minute09:02
anewto tet it09:02
anewtest it better09:02
somsipanew: * * * * *09:02
[^DarkGod^]Psil0Cybin: have you copied the public key to the server?09:02
anewk09:02
Psil0Cybinyes09:02
Psil0Cybin[^DarkGod^], its asking me locally via the GUI09:02
Psil0Cybinto enter the password09:02
Psil0Cybini want it to ask me in the terminal.09:02
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Psil0Cybinto unlock the key09:03
anewsomsip i am logged in as 'will' user, so when i crontab -l it says no crontabs09:03
anewbut i have to sudo to change theh crontab -e09:03
[^DarkGod^]are you connecting using putty?09:03
somsipanew: so you set it as a sudo crontab. You probably need to set the full path to /usr/bin/perl or create it in will's crontab09:03
[^DarkGod^]or are you using a linux terminal?09:03
anewyes but everytime i just do 'crontab -e' it says permission denied...09:04
anewError reading /home/will/.nano_history: Permission denied09:04
anewactually i dont think that matters... i think i set it now09:05
anewthat error doesnt mean anything right09:05
somsipanew: it means it can't edit the crontab for that user09:05
anewargh09:05
anewok so it does matter lol09:05
anewwhey the hell cant it edit the cron for will09:06
anewi am logged in as will09:06
somsipanew: it depends. You've gone from 'a cronjob is not running' to 'I havent set the cronjob on the right user' to 'I cant edit crontabs for a user'09:06
somsipanew: check http://serverfault.com/questions/78159/what-could-cause-permission-denied-for-command-crontab-e09:06
Psil0Cybin[^DarkGod^], this is kind of like my problem but I do not want to automatically log in09:07
Psil0Cybinhttp://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=100879709:07
Psil0Cybinso what i did was sudo killall gnome-keyring-daemon and it worked....09:07
Psil0Cybinafter i killed that09:07
Psil0Cybini can type my password in the terminal09:07
Psil0Cybinnormally like i used too09:07
Psil0Cybinwow09:07
Psil0Cybinwhy is gnome-keyring-daemon on my computer!09:08
Psil0Cybinthis is Xubuntu not Ubuntu!09:08
cynicallemonPsil0Cybin: xubuntu has gnome packages09:08
ikoniaPsil0Cybin: because you installed ubuntu and then installed xubuntu-desktop package09:08
ikoniaPsil0Cybin: you where complaining the otherday about unity lenses09:09
Psil0Cybinikonia, This time I reformatted and used a standard Xubuntu 14.04 ISO09:09
Psil0Cybinfrom the Xubuntu website.09:09
ikoniaPsil0Cybin: `xubuntu does have some gnome base libraries09:09
ikoniato be honest I don't see why this is a problem09:09
Psil0Cybinso i guess that keyring package, was one of them09:09
Psil0CybinI dunno im paranoid and the more i google it so are other people09:10
Psil0Cybinlol09:10
ikoniakeyring is very useful, so I wouldn't be surprised if it was09:10
[^DarkGod^]ikonia is right, xubuntu logically is based on ubuntu09:10
ikoniaPsil0Cybin: paranoid about what ???09:10
anewsomsip sorry i was figuring all this out while i was typing09:10
anewso when i get the warning... even tho i get the warning, i do crontab -l and see the crontab for will09:10
anew?09:10
[^DarkGod^]Psil0Cybin: now its working because you "disabled" the ssh auth using SSL09:11
PechosReyHi09:11
[^DarkGod^]if you reboot your server, it will fail again09:11
somsipanew: did you work through the suggestions on the page I linked for you?09:11
[^DarkGod^]you have to check your ssh config and place the certs on the correct folders09:11
anewdoing it now09:11
[^DarkGod^]the password prompt problem you have is because the server is asking for the ssl passphrase you used when you created the certs on 12.0409:12
idimmuPsil0Cybin: if you really want to know, install apt-rdepends and run  apt-rdepends -r gnome-keyring09:12
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ObrienDavewhat? Psil0Cybin complain? naw, say it isn't so ;P09:12
Psil0Cybinoh you guys09:13
idimmualso what are you paranoid of?09:13
Psil0Cybini want to re-enter my password in the terminal each time, I do not want someone to just type my last command in the terminal if i left my computer on and access my raspberry pi, and view my cat videos09:13
PechosReyHow can i deactivate the samba service in Ubuntu 14.04 which is active by default09:13
idimmuuse a screensaver that requires a password to unlock ..09:13
PechosReyi can't find it in the runlevels09:14
Tachyon`'cat', heh, never heard it called that before09:14
Psil0CybinObrienDave, be a lover, not a hater..09:14
Tachyon`also, isn't that the active ingredient in magic mushrooms?09:15
ikoniaPsil0Cybin: I don't understand tha actual problem ?09:15
Psil0Cybinnvm i figured it out i just wanted to disable gnome-keyring daemon09:16
ikoniaso that's all you had to ask09:17
Psil0Cybinif i chmod it to 0, it stops bugging me.09:17
ikoniabad solution but "ok"09:17
Psil0Cybinwhat do you recommend.09:17
ikoniadisabling the service09:17
anewsomsip i dont understand what to do with the first answer...09:17
anewwhat do i type into the terminal?09:17
Psil0Cybinin what way ikonia? just kill it every start or boot? or can I physically set it to off?09:18
ikoniait's called from dbus I think from memory09:18
ikoniaso disable it within dbus09:18
ikoniaor just click "cancel" when it asks you for your password, it shouldnt ask you again for that session09:18
ObrienDavePsil0Cybin, i don't hate you, i think you worry too much and waste peoples time on really silly stuff09:18
ikoniaif you're certain you don't want it ever, just remove the package09:19
somsipanew: the input after "nick@home-sv-1:~$ " gives the ouput shown underneath it. Do the ones in Problem and Solution. And read the rest09:19
Psil0Cybinikonia, okay, but when I cancel obviously it just says pubkey denied because I did not enter a password. I am worried if I remove the package it might remove other packages I need for a standard Xubuntu install, How can I disable it through dbus perhaps in case it may cause problems later I can enable it..09:20
PechosReynobody knows from where the samba service is autostarted in 14.04? the rc.local is empty09:20
ikoniaPsil0Cybin I'd just remove it if you're that against it09:20
Psil0Cybinokay.09:20
Psil0Cybinikonia, it wants to remove software center.09:21
ikoniahttps://wiki.gnome.org/Projects/GnomeKeyring/Ssh09:21
Psil0CybinI think disabling it is a better method should I just google it ( how to disable via dbus? )09:21
Psil0Cybincan I disable via dconf-editor?09:21
ikoniaPsil0Cybin: I'd be surprised if software center depended on gnome-ask-pass/keyring09:22
ikonials -la09:22
Psil0Cybinikonia, it wanted to remove gnome-keyring, oneconf, python-ubuntu-sso-client software-center ubuntu-sso-client09:22
ikoniaoops09:22
ikoniasurprising09:22
ikoniaPsil0Cybin: what package did you tell it to remove ?09:22
Psil0Cybingnome-keyring09:23
ikoniasurprising09:23
Tachyon`hi, I've atm got grub2 installed with its loader in the mbr, however, for reasons I need not go into, that's no longer useful, I want to install it to the superblock of the root partition, is that as simple as doing a grub-install /dev/sda6 or is there more to it than that?09:23
ikoniahttp://askubuntu.com/questions/243397/xubuntu-disable-gnome-keyring worth a glance too09:24
ikoniale of using a wrapper script http://askubuntu.com/questions/412793/xubuntu-stop-gnome-keyring-daemon-from-impersonating-ssh-agent09:25
ikoniathis should in my mind by changed at the dbus "call" line09:25
menacehi, i am just installing the netboot 14.10 image, and i had several lvs/vgs on the disk before. It seems i cannot stop the nulling of the disk. is that right? any experience with that?09:25
somsip!14.10 | menace09:25
ubottumenace: Ubuntu 14.10 (Utopic Unicorn) is the next development release of Ubuntu due for release in October 2014. Support in #ubuntu+1. For more info, see the announcement at http://www.markshuttleworth.com/archives/136309:25
blubaustinhello09:25
blubaustinWas just wondering one thing can I have a NFS server and client running on the same machine? I am trying to share folders from both machines to each other09:26
ikoniablubaustin: yes you can09:26
blubaustinAlright was just wondering since I know with some things a client and server you can only have one or the other not both09:27
ikonianfs is fine09:27
blubaustinI've never set up a NFS so I was just wondering09:27
blubaustinSo this will be fun ^_^ . I hope at least09:27
* Tachyon` gives up and just tries it and prepares a lot of cursing in case his system ends up unbootable09:27
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menace*sigh* I know that 14.10 is not released yet.... I don't want to complain, i just ask, if anyone knows this behaviour. if not, i surely will look for a bug, or even open one...09:28
blubaustinikonia Have is it very difficult to setup or is it pretty easy? I'm trying to make it where each user can access their home folder.09:28
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cfhowlettmenace, and ALL of that can and should be discussed in #ubuntu+109:29
somsipmenace: try in 14.10. That's where users of 14.10 are09:29
blubaustinSo if one person is on one computer they can still access files on the other computer09:29
somsipmenace: s/14.10/#ubuntu+1 ...09:29
menacethanks :)09:29
menacethat's a better place, i agree09:29
ikoniablubaustin: doddle09:29
blubaustinI do want security though which is whats bothering me with the guide its wanting everyone to access it instead of authentication09:29
Raz1So, should I ask MIR questions in this channel or 14.10 - or something completely different?09:30
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blubaustindoddle?09:30
Psil0Cybinthank you so much ikonia09:30
cfhowlett!mir | razl09:30
ubotturazl: Mir is the next-generation display server currently under development by Canonical and Ubuntu. It's slated for inclusion in Ubuntu 14.04. For more information on it, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Mir/Spec . For code, see https://launchpad.net/mir09:30
Raz1cfhowlett: I already read it09:30
cfhowlettRaz1, not in 14.04 so ... 14.10 I suppose09:30
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blubaustinI have ubuntu 14.10 ubottu >_>09:31
blubaustinI like gentoo but its to hard for the other users to manage09:31
blubaustinubuntu*09:31
ikoniawhy are you using pre-release software ?09:31
Raz1cfhowlett: All right09:31
ikoniablubaustin: doddle = very easy09:31
blubaustinWhy not09:32
blubaustinI have backups09:32
ikoniablubaustin: because it's pre-release, it breaks it is unstable09:32
blubaustinread above ^09:32
ikoniablubaustin: ok, then please join #ubuntu+1 for 14.10 discussion09:32
cfhowlettblubaustin, AND it's not supported here so >>> #ubuntu+1 for support please09:32
blubaustinSo to me if I can help the team, and other people can its worth it09:32
ikoniablubaustin: this channel only suppors the stable release09:32
blubaustincrap >_>09:32
PechosReycan someone tell me how the new autostart of services in ubuntu 14.04 works?09:33
PechosReythe rc.local is empty09:33
PechosReymy samba autostarts with 14.04 but i can find out where to deactivate the samba service09:34
ikoniait uses upstart09:34
ikoniathat's the init system09:34
blubaustindelete it in the /etc/init.d/09:34
ikoniarc.local is only for very specific and pretty much obsolete stuff now09:35
ikoniado not delete it09:35
ikoniado not delete init scripts09:35
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Raz1*unless you created them09:35
blubaustinor mv it09:35
ikoniado not move it09:35
blubaustin?!09:36
PechosReyah great there is a samba autostart script thx a lot09:36
Raz1They can be disabled09:36
ikoniadisable init jobs using upstart09:36
ikoniado not try to get around it09:36
blubaustinyes they can be disabled but I've always moved it or deleted it >_>09:36
blubaustin<_<09:36
ikoniathen you have bad practices09:36
ikoniaplease don't offer them as solutions09:36
PechosReywhere can i find upstart?09:37
ikoniaPechosRey: it's an init system it's made up of a few components09:37
ikonia!upstart | PechosRey09:37
ubottuPechosRey: Upstart is meant to replace the old Sys V Init system with an event-driven init model.  For more information please see: http://upstart.ubuntu.com/09:37
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PechosReyah thx a lot i try to disable it using upstart09:39
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Psil0CybinI just typed in free -m on a fresh install of Xubuntu and it says i have 0 swap 0 used 0 free, so i can assume I have no swap...why is this so, would it no task me to make a swap or make one automatically, if i just did a standard install when it erases everything?09:40
cfhowlettPsil0Cybin, swap is not automatic09:40
Raz1upstart is going to be replaced eventually, by the way09:40
cfhowlett!swap | Psil0Cybin09:40
ubottuPsil0Cybin: swap is used to move unused programs and data out of main memory to make your system faster. It can also be used as extra memory if you don't have enough. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SwapFaq for more info09:40
Raz1Psil0Cybin: It just means that your system hasn't needed to page anything yet because you have enough memory09:41
Psil0Cybincfhowlett, would it get created automatically, if i need more memory09:41
Psil0Cybineven if total says 0?09:41
Raz1It's just the space used on the swap partition09:41
PechosReyit seems samba is not managed with upstart service09:41
cynicallemoni dont usually run with swap enabled due to having enough memory09:42
cfhowlettPsil0Cybin, swap IS NOT created unless you choose to do so.  Did you?  If not = no swap.  Read the wiki and add one if you wish1209:42
PechosReyinitctl list -> doesn`t list samba processes09:42
Raz1cynicallemon: It's kind of useful for hibernation though09:42
Raz1Psil0Cybin: Oh, sorry. I didn't see the 0 free part09:42
Psil0Cybini did the whole LVM encrypted / home encrypted, it never gave an option for swap..it just gave me the option to create my own partitions or let the Install do its own thing.09:42
cynicallemonRaz1: yes maybe for laptops09:42
cuddylierDoes anyone know how to apt-get install programs without it prompting for a yes/no? I need it not to for a bash script.09:43
Psil0Cybinso i clicked erase all previous partitions and do a fresh install09:43
Psil0Cybinso i thought it would create a swap just incase...09:43
Psil0Cybinlike in 12.04..09:43
Raz1cynicallemon: Especiall so, but I use it for desktops aswell in order to keep session state09:43
cfhowlettPsil0Cybin, don't feel bad.  I just installed my 14.04 upgrade and manage to forget to set the swap partition.  It's present from 12.04 but I didn't assign it so = no swap.  Easily fixed thought09:43
Raz1cynicallemon: No real need to shut down your system if you don't have to09:43
winemcuddylier: use -y09:44
cuddylierwinem: Thanks09:44
winemthis will automatically answer the question with yes and skips the prompt09:44
devlinwhat if it's installed on tablet09:44
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Psil0Cybincfhowlett, is it easy to create an encrypted swap in 14.04 and link it in? or is that not as easily fixed lol?09:44
cynicallemonRaz1: i dont worry about that on laptops anyway as i shut mine down anyway, always have09:44
smittixHas anyone experienced boot problems when installing Nvidia drivers?09:45
cfhowlettPsil0Cybin, all I can suggest is read the swap wiki.  I just verified that my 12.04 /swap is present, so I' need to boot a USB and then do some mtab/fstab assignments or something.  seems caveman easy ...09:45
Psil0CybinOkay ty.09:46
ObrienDaveunless you're a caveman09:46
ObrienDave;P09:46
NiNou0013irc.root-me.org:666709:52
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cuddylierDoes anyone know a fairly easy way to change a single line or a variable in a config file via bash script? All the change config things I can find on Google are extremely complicated and I'm not sure it's what I'm looking for.09:54
irgendwer4711hello, anyone using Ubuntu 10.04 LTS with openssl/postfix, havin this error in log: ccs received early?09:55
irgendwer4711I think openssl update 0.9.8k is damaged09:55
cfhowlettirgendwer4711, 10.04 server??09:57
irgendwer4711yes09:58
irgendwer471110.04.04 LTS09:58
H4ml3tcuddylier, can I advice you to use a Perl script?09:58
irgendwer4711cfhowlett: there seems to be a bug regression with TLS09:58
H4ml3tis much more easy09:58
cuddylierH4ml3t Is it similar to bash in terms of simplicity for comands?09:59
cuddyliercommands*09:59
irgendwer4711maybe encryption is worthless09:59
cfhowlettirgendwer4711, over my head.  ask #ubuntu-server09:59
irgendwer4711cfhowlett: do you use this version with postfix?=09:59
H4ml3tthe syntax is different, but not too much!09:59
cfhowlettirgendwer4711, no server on my machine.   you might ask in the server channel.09:59
H4ml3tyou can just focus on what you have to do, without learning all the language10:00
H4ml3tmaybe you can write a little perl script and execute it inside you bash script10:00
irgendwer4711cfhowlett: did10:01
irgendwer4711cfhowlett: may I should ask some dev?10:04
cfhowlettirgendwer4711, pretty sure the first thing they'll they'd suggest is upgrade to 14.04 --- as do I.  10.04 support ends in 2 months.10:04
irgendwer4711cfhowlett: lts ends in april 201510:05
cfhowlettand an upgrade may easily fix the problem.10:05
cuddylierFor exiting mysql in my bash script, you would usually use 'exit' normally but I can't do that can I in a script as exit is a function too?10:05
cfhowlettirgendwer4711, doh!  right.10:05
worklist10:05
worklist10:05
cfhowlettwork ... ha ha.  no warez here.  go elsewhere10:06
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havarkacfhowlett: HA HA10:08
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Guest17189ok10:11
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AMD-ZGoodmorning people10:12
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rewt__hi10:16
rewt__i was wondering if it could be possible to configure OpenLDAP to use radius challenge during authentication, for example let s say you want to implment 2factor auth on services that does not support radius, but supports LDAP auth (cf VMWare etc...) is there any way to do this ?10:16
blaabhello! I'm running Ubuntu 14.04 and I've connected a USB audio device. It shows up in pulseaudio volume control as10:22
blaabCM108 audio controller analog stereo. However, I don't hear any sound even after setting audio at 145%10:22
blaaband the mic isn't detected either. Could someone help out here?10:22
Ja[r]odhi mom!10:25
delf_hi guys! i'm trying to install puppet 2.7 on my ubuntu 14.04 box...i created a pref-file in /etc/apt/preferences.d, but somehow it seems like apt ignores it...any ideas what i could have done wrong?10:26
mlodyHi guys, What are default permissions and owners to /var/log in ubuntu 14.04? In my install i have 775 root syslog which causes my logratate to fail10:26
ChaosBringerHello all. I have about 6 LVs that I seem to be running into some small issues with10:27
ChaosBringer@ mlody drwxrwxr-x 15 root syslog   4096 Aug 13 08:03 log10:27
ChaosBringerSo, I noticed I have duplicate entries in proc/mounts10:28
ChaosBringerfor some of my Logical Volumes10:28
ChaosBringerthey also do not seem to be automounted or unmounted10:28
ChaosBringeron boot and shutdown, even though they are in /etc/fstab10:28
ChaosBringerany ideas?10:28
mlodydo you think that somethink can go wrong when i set chmod 755 /var/log ?10:30
ChaosBringerwhy wouldn't you give whatever user is running logrotate10:32
Ja[r]odmlody: yup10:32
ChaosBringeryou add whatever user to the syslog group10:32
ChaosBringerinstead of messing with permissions in / :)10:32
k1lmlody: 775 root:syslog is fine for /var/log/ . but the files in there have different permissions10:32
ChaosBringeranyone have any idea about dupes in /proc/mounts concerning LVM?10:32
k1lmlody: did you fiddle with the permissions in there already?10:32
ChaosBringerubuntu 14.0410:33
mlodyk1l, 775 isnt fine in case of my logrotate10:33
mlodyerror: skipping "/var/log/tarara.log" because parent directory has insecure permissions (It's world writable or writable by group which is not "root")10:34
mlodywhen i run logrotate -f /etc/logrotate.d/tararar10:34
mlodyit clearly says that /var/log is writable by group10:34
mlodyand this causes the error10:34
ChaosBringerright10:34
ChaosBringeryou have given too broad permissions10:35
ChaosBringerto tarara.log10:35
ChaosBringersyslog is the default group10:35
ChaosBringerthat the folder belongs to10:35
TJ-mlody: It sounds as if logrotate isn't being run as the syslog user, but as root10:36
mlodyTJ-, in logrotate.conf: su root syslog10:36
ChaosBringer^ probably right10:36
mlodydirective is set10:36
TJ-mlody: That's correct .... have you got any logrotate customisations?10:36
mlodymay this be the problem?10:36
k1lmlody: what program gives that error? 755 is the regular ubunut setup10:36
ChaosBringeranyone know why my LVM partitions are not automounting (they are in /etc/fstab) and I have dupes in /proc/mounts?10:36
mlodyk1l, logrotate gives it10:37
TJ-My systems /var/log/ are 775 root:syslog10:37
k1lmlody: not on a regular ubuntu10:37
mlodybtw. when I add this directive to the conf for tararara the it is ok10:37
mlodyand it rotates the log10:37
k1lmlody: which ubuntu is that exactly?10:37
mlodyUbuntu 14.04.1 LTS \n \l10:37
k1lso 775 is all fine10:38
InsaneRealityHi, after upgrading to Trusty, Gnome-shell is acting very sluggish, with windows getting stuck or twitching. What should I do?10:39
TJ-mlody: What is the owner:group of tarara.log?10:39
k1lInsaneReality: try a different user to see if it is some user setting (old theme, old config etc)10:39
mlody-rw-------  1 root    root10:40
EriC^^mlody:  try setting the group to syslog?10:40
InsaneRealityk1l: Ok, I will try that. Just in case that issue doesn't happen with a new user, what should I do?10:40
TJ-mlody: I think you need a custom "/etc/logrotate.d/<daemon_name>" with "/var/log/tarara.log { ... su root root }"  in10:41
k1lInsaneReality: good question. i would consider to reset the user configurations from gnome desktop.10:41
TJ-mlody: That... or change the group ownership of tarara.log to syslog10:42
InsaneRealityk1l: Can you tell me how to reset user config please?10:43
mlodyTJ-, yup. I have custom config. When i add there a directive "su root syslog" then it rotates the log. Also when i change /var/log permissions to 755 instead of 775 it works aswell. We have big environment and its easier to change in ansible single config (to change /var/log) instead of all logrotate configs10:43
mlodyTJ-, i wonder wheter there will be some porlbmes with /var/log chmoded to 75510:43
mlody(as it was in ubuntu 13.04 for example)10:43
fribwhen i run sudo pm-hibernate, the screen just flashes and pc doesn't shut off .. how can I make hibernate work?10:43
EriC^^frib: do you have a swap partition?10:44
TJ-mlody: There could be, the point of the group rw is that daemons can drop root privs but still have access to write logs10:45
k1lInsaneReality: see f that helps: http://askubuntu.com/questions/56313/how-do-i-reset-gnome-to-the-defaults10:45
InsaneRealityk1l: Thanks a lot. :)10:46
fribEriC^^, one sec, checking10:46
fribEriC^^, it seems I dont10:47
EriC^^frib: you need a swap partition/file to hibernate10:48
AMD-Zfrib: that's what I told you yesterday too10:48
fribEriC^^, atm i have a boot/efi partition (fat32) and a root partition ext410:48
fribAMD-Z, i thought i had one10:48
k1lyou can only standby without a swap partition10:49
fribwith this new laptop the install was some weird efi thing that I had never seen before and i couldn't partition things the way I wanted to10:49
k1lfrib: "sudo fdisk -l" will tell you10:49
fribmy ram is 12 gb but gparted says i have 11.93 gb of free disk space10:50
InsaneRealityOne more question: Something has happened while upgrading to 14.04 that libreoffice-base is showing as half-installed and it remains in its old precise version without updating to the trusty one. Is there a way to solve that?10:51
EriC^^frib: you mean unallocated space?10:52
fribEriC^^, gparted called it "unknown" so i just formatted it to swap10:52
k1lInsaneReality: run a "sudo apt-get udpate &&sudo apt-get dist-upgrade" and put the whole output into a pastebin please10:52
fribbut despite gparted showing 3 partitions, fdisk only shows 1 still10:52
k1lfrib: dont just guess! pastebin the output and let the peer review it10:53
TJ-frib: That is because the disk using GPT, not MBR. With fdisk all you see is the Protective MBR... use "gdisk"10:53
InsaneRealityk1l: Ok10:53
k1lelse you may be deleting your stuff10:53
EriC^^frib: try parted -l10:53
fribEriC^^, that shows them all10:54
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fribso now that i have a swap i should try to hibernate again?10:54
EriC^^np10:54
EriC^^*no10:54
EriC^^first does it say the partition is linux-swap ? (under filesystem)10:54
friblinux-swap(v1)10:54
EriC^^ok10:55
EriC^^type swapon /dev/sdxY10:55
EriC^^where sdxY is the swap10:55
fribdone10:55
TJ-frib: the swap partition needs to be slightly larger than installed RAM for hibernation to work, for an 8GB RAM PC I needed to allocate 8.25GB to the swap partition10:56
fribTJ-, my ubuntu system info lists my ram as 11.7GB and parted -l lists the swap partition as 12.8GB10:56
EriC^^now type blkid10:56
TJ-frib: That looks about right10:56
EriC^^and get the UUID10:56
fribgot it10:56
EriC^^sudo nano /etc/fstab10:57
fribok10:57
fribim there10:57
InsaneRealityk1l: Here's the paste: http://paste.ubuntu.com/8044367/ . I entered Y when it asked me to upgrade.10:58
EriC^^add this UUID=UUIDhere    none    swap    sw      0   010:58
iptableplease also note that you need more than "slightly" bigger swap than ram. linux by default will swap out unused memory to swap, so you may end up with your ram + 1GB of swap utilised after a few hours of doing certain things. A good rule of thumb is SWAP=RAM*1.5. So for 12GB RAM, have at least 18GB SWAP. that will ensure you can hibernate after a few days of not rebooting11:00
fribEriC^^, done11:00
EriC^^ok, sudo nano /etc/initramfs-tools/conf.d/resume11:01
fribiptable, then iwill have to shrink my os partition11:01
fribEriC^^, there11:02
EriC^^add this RESUME=UUID=UUIDhere11:02
fribdone11:02
iptablejust a note ;) free -m can tell you if you have enough swap free. you need swap free = your ram size + a few MB in order to be able to hibernate11:02
fribhttp://paste.ubuntu.com/8044419/11:03
EriC^^then sudo update-initramfs -u11:03
fribdone11:03
EriC^^ok, you're good11:03
EriC^^pm-hibernate11:04
fribam i still here11:05
EriC^^ok, you need to restart i think11:05
k1lInsaneReality: you use libreoffice from a PPA and that PPA is broken11:05
fribthe hibernate seemed to work11:05
fribthe pc shut off11:05
fribi'm just surprised i didn't get disconnected from irc11:05
k1l!info libreoffice-base | InsaneReality see the package version11:05
ubottuInsaneReality see the package version: libreoffice-base (source: libreoffice): office productivity suite -- database. In component main, is optional. Version 1:4.2.4-0ubuntu2 (trusty), package size 1366 kB, installed size 5192 kB11:05
EriC^^maybe cause the connection didn't timeout yet11:06
fribok so then all is good11:06
EriC^^my wifi goes away sometimes, and when its back i resume in irc11:06
fribcan i just ask -- all that i just did, did it fix my problem of not being able to come back from suspend also?11:06
InsaneRealityk1l: So what should I do now?11:07
k1lremove that PPA with ppa-purge11:07
EriC^^no idea11:07
fribok hopefully it did11:07
k1l!ppa-purge | InsaneReality11:07
ubottuInsaneReality: To disable a PPA from your sources and revert your packages back to default Ubuntu packages, install ppa-purge and use the command: « sudo ppa-purge ppa:<repository-name>/<subdirectory> » – For more information, see http://www.webupd8.org/2009/12/remove-ppa-repositories-via-command.html11:07
friband now hibernate shows up in the gui shutdown options too so that's good11:07
fribthanks for the help11:07
InsaneRealityk1l: Ok I will do that11:07
EriC^^np11:07
InsaneRealityk1l: Thanks for all your help11:07
daGrevishi! any idea what these errors mean? https://gist.githubusercontent.com/anonymous/2468487701e2762d36c8/raw/eadf1ad2da04fb10d1787e7e2fb318c15962791c/gistfile1.txt11:11
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jackarius86hello, can anyone recommend a good cd/dvd writing program for burning a .iso file on to11:12
fribjackarius86, k3b is good11:12
DJones!burning | jackarius86 I use any of gnomebaker/k3b/brasero depending on which comes to mind first11:14
ubottujackarius86 I use any of gnomebaker/k3b/brasero depending on which comes to mind first: CD/DVD burning software: k3b (KDE), brasero (GNOME), gnomebaker, xcdroast, wodim (command-line) | To burn ISO files, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BurningIsoHowto11:14
k1lif its just a iso any program will do, imho. even nautilus can do that11:15
anew* * * * * /usr/bin/perl /var/www/Users.pl anyone have any idea whats wrong with this. i do crontab -l and i see it11:15
anewpermissions maybe11:16
anew?11:16
EriC^^anew: it isn't set to run at any time anyways?11:16
jackarius86ok cool, thanks guys11:16
anewEriC^^, what do u mean11:17
EriC^^it's all *'s, it isn't set to run11:17
anewEriC^^, shouldnt that run every minute ?11:18
EriC^^no11:18
fribi recently got my bluetooth to work using these instructions: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=223181311:18
EriC^^use */1 * * * *11:18
fribbut the effect doesn't seem to be permanent -- is there anyway I can make it permanent? thanks11:18
anewEriC^^, didnt work11:20
anewdid not run11:20
EriC^^check /var/log/syslog11:20
anew /var/log/syslog is empty11:21
EriC^^what do you mean?11:21
EriC^^no [CRON] ?11:21
poplI'd like to install Apache Solr. I have been comparing Tomcat vs. Jetty. So far I have noticed that solr-tomcat requires tomcat6, which is at version 6.0.39 (which is a version that has multiple security issues). For that reason I am now considering using solr-jetty. Is Jetty preferred for using Solr with Ubuntu?11:22
aneweric^^ nothing... it has nothing in the file11:22
anew cannot open ‘20’ for reading: No such file or directory11:22
anew==> /var/log/syslog <==11:22
EriC^^is this ubuntu?11:23
anewyes11:23
poplThe only wiki page on Solr is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Solr (which reports being last edited in 2012 but includes data marked as from 2008).11:24
EriC^^type mail11:24
EriC^^anew: do you get anything about the cronjob?11:24
anewmail?11:25
EriC^^in the terminal11:25
daGreviswhy i don't have /boot/grub/menu.lst ?11:25
anewthere is nothing in /var/mail11:25
daGreviscan i edit grub.cfg directly?11:26
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EriC^^daGrevis: it'll be erased the next time you update-grub11:26
daGrevisEriC^^, hmm. but where are the files are should be editing?11:27
EriC^^daGrevis: edit /etc/default/grub & the grub.d11:27
EriC^^/etc/grub.d11:28
daGreviscool, thanks11:29
EriC^^np11:29
EriC^^then update-grub after editing11:29
daGreviswhat day is it today?11:30
anewargh can anyone help me with this cron???11:30
EriC^^i don't know why you don't have a /var/log/syslog11:32
EriC^^there was a file to select which logs to have, like kern.log and cron.log (which come from the syslog i think)11:33
elmaestrohow do i access deluge or transmission from dash?11:33
EriC^^i don't know if you can get the syslog from there too11:33
EriC^^ok got the file /etc/rsyslog.d/50-default.conf11:34
anuvratwhy is apt-get failing on older versions of ubuntu? how can I fix it?11:35
anuvratI am getting 404s on my instances running ubuntu 13. Also my colleagues running ubuntu 13 are facing the same issue of not being able to install packages on their laptops.11:35
EriC^^anew: mine says *.*;auth,authpriv.none          -/var/log/syslog11:36
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bugtraqEscd11:38
SanuraiRMaviator shut down command?11:40
hughsaundershey, why does http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/trusty/Release contain architectures that are not present in the repo eg main/binary-arm64?11:40
theadminanuvrat: You can't "fix" it, 13.X is EOL.11:41
theadminanuvrat: You have to upgrade to install packages.11:41
theadminanuvrat: For general use, stick to EOL versions (12.04, 14.04, 16.04, 18.04 and so on). Only use non-LTS if you want to play with new features.11:43
theadminErr11:45
k1lanuvrat: the repos get shut down after its even too late to have a secure system due to stopped updates. so better stick with LTS in first place. you got 5 years support on that11:45
SanuraiRMexample aviator shut down command11:45
theadminanuvrat: stick to LTS versions11:45
ikoniaSanuraiRM: what is the issue ?11:45
theadminSanuraiRM: We're not a search engine, explain what you want please11:45
k1lSanuraiRM: can you make a real support question out of that?11:45
SanuraiRMyes i make aviator for pc off11:45
daGreviswhere can i find logs about services stopping?11:45
jackarius86DJones: i am trying to use brasero, but i cant figure out how to make it detect my blank dvd11:45
SanuraiRMicons for pc off11:46
theadminSanuraiRM: oooh, launcher11:46
SanuraiRMlauncher11:46
SanuraiRMbut11:46
theadminSanuraiRM: gnome-session-quit --power-off is what you want11:47
SanuraiRMxfce4-session-logout11:47
SanuraiRMbut no logout11:47
SanuraiRMoff11:47
theadminOh, XFCE11:47
theadminSanuraiRM: xfce4-session-logout --halt11:47
SanuraiRMtk11:47
jackarius86how can i make brasero "see" my blank DVD?11:49
linuxthefishhow can i boot into ubuntu live usb on EFI pc?11:49
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theadminlinuxthefish: Windows 8 PC?11:52
linuxthefishtheadmin yeah, i just need to boot into live for fixing some files11:53
saifcan any one tell me where i can download ultra iso for xubuntu11:53
theadminsaif: UltraISO is a Windows program, doesn't exist for Ubuntu. You can mount ISOs in Ubuntu directly by double-clicking them.11:54
TJ-linuxthefish: Removable media should appear in the UEFI boot menu, possibly twice (once for the BIOS boot, once for the EFI boot) options11:54
linuxthefishyeah i can boot usb by pressing escape, but it comes up with grub command line11:54
k1l!find ultraiso11:54
ubottuFile ultraiso found in openvas-plugins-dfsg11:54
theadmink1l: UltraISO is a DaemonTools-like program for Windows11:54
k1ltheadmin: ok11:55
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TJ-linuxgeek_: Do you see more than one entry for the USB device in the UEFI boot menu?11:55
linuxthefishif you mean me, then no11:56
SanuraiRMi want to cereate a file that off the pc11:56
SanuraiRMhttp://postimg.org/image/5nt9eo8k9/1d9ee36b/11:56
ikoniaSanuraiRM: resolve your ban in #ubuntu-irc - your english is not good enough to actually help you11:56
saifbut i cant mount them on usb11:57
theadminlinuxthefish: Disable Secure Boot in your EFI settings first11:57
theadminlinuxthefish: Then try again11:57
linuxthefishah ok thanks11:57
SanuraiRMikonia my english is not enough for a simple file11:58
ikoniaSanuraiRM: no11:58
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SanuraiRMi want create a icon that i push and off pc11:59
EriC^^SanuraiRM: you're basically asking about pc-hitmen in your question11:59
SanuraiRMpc-hittmen11:59
SanuraiRMno11:59
SanuraiRMabsolutely12:00
EriC^^SanuraiRM: never mind, i get what you mean12:00
linuxthefishcheers theadmin that worked fine12:00
EriC^^SanuraiRM: do you want it in the unity launcher?12:00
EriC^^SanuraiRM: you want to create a launcher icon that will shutdown the pc right?12:00
ikoniahe's using xubuntu12:00
SanuraiRMyes lancer12:00
EriC^^oh12:00
EriC^^you want it in the dock below?12:00
stevenanyone knows how to enable ssmtp log files? debug mode? anything? syslog doesnt print errors and ssmtp just freezes12:01
SanuraiRMcommand is log out12:01
saifcan any one tell me where i can download adt bundle for linus12:01
theadminsaif: https://developer.android.com/sdk/installing/index.html?pkg=adt12:02
EriC^^SanuraiRM: do you want the button to turn the pc off ? or just logout?12:02
SanuraiRMafter logout i insert an instruction12:02
k1lsaif: stop wanting to download stuff from anywhere. see what is in the official ubuntu repos12:02
SanuraiRMicons launcher to turn thre pc off12:03
SanuraiRMi have created a lancher for logout12:03
EriC^^SanuraiRM: ok12:03
theadminSanuraiRM: http://hastebin.com/raw/vadacawugo12:04
theadminSanuraiRM: Save this in a file with a .desktop extension12:04
theadminPut it wherever12:04
EriC^^SanuraiRM: ok type in command " shutdown -h now "12:04
theadminEriC^^: That won't work in a launcher12:05
theadminEriC^^: Needs root access and all that12:05
SanuraiRMtk you if i insert this comand in the lancher12:05
EriC^^theadmin: it's a xubuntu dock12:05
theadminEriC^^: Still, the "shutdown" command needs root access12:05
theadminEriC^^: You want "xfce4-session-logout --halt" which will handle shutdown via consolekit or whatever Xubuntu uses12:05
TJ-Or directly using "dbus-send --system --dest="org.freedesktop.ConsoleKit" /org/freedesktop/ConsoleKit/Manager org.freedesktop.ConsoleKit.Manager.Stop"12:07
theadmin...well that's a hard command to remember12:07
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linuxthefishwhy can't i mount my windows partition?12:08
linuxthefishsomething about unsafe ntfs even with it shut down properly12:08
theadminlinuxthefish: You have Fast Startup enabled.12:09
EriC^^linuxthefish: did you shutdown windows?12:09
linuxthefishyes EriC^^12:09
SanuraiRMtk you12:09
EriC^^linuxthefish: restart windows instead of shutting down12:09
theadminlinuxthefish: in Windows. Boot Windows, then shutdown while holding the Shift button, or use the Restart option12:09
linuxthefishi'll try that thanks12:09
linuxthefishgrr screw windows lol12:10
theadminlinuxthefish: It's a reasonable option given that most people don't dual boot. You can easily disable it from the control panel12:11
SanuraiRMExec=xfce4-session-logout --halt in the  clock of pc?12:11
linuxthefishyey restart worked cheers12:11
SanuraiRManc cerate request yes or no12:11
theadminSanuraiRM: Please join #ubuntu-it for Italian help, I can't understand you.12:12
cfhowlett!it | SanuraiRM,12:12
ubottuSanuraiRM,: Vai su #ubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie! (per entrare, scrivi « /join #ubuntu-it » senza virgolette)12:12
IdleOnehe can't he is banned from there12:12
SanuraiRMim banned12:12
theadminOh.12:13
SanuraiRMI want to create a file that turns off the PC to pass your time12:14
SanuraiRMthe file now turn off the pc but I would, however, ask for a confirmation that the file12:15
hughsaundersSanuraiRM: could use the dialog utility? http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/trusty/man1/dialog.1.html12:17
SanuraiRMhttp://postimg.org/image/bfe7ufp4f/eb30e1ce/12:17
SanuraiRMwowo the manual great12:18
EriC^^SanuraiRM: if you add "sudo shutdown -h now"  & select launch in terminal12:18
EriC^^a terminal will pop up asking for the password12:18
evil_dan2wikI need libusb to compile something, how do I get this?12:19
SanuraiRMif press icons the pc turn off but yes or no?12:19
ikoniaevil_dan2wik: what do you need to build12:19
evil_dan2wikikonia, avrdude12:19
theadmin!find libusb12:19
ubottuFound: libusb++-0.1-4c2, libusb++-dev, libusb-0.1-4, libusb-1.0-0, libusb-1.0-0-dbg, libusb-1.0-0-dev, libusb-1.0-doc, libusb-dev, libusbmuxd-dev, libusbmuxd2 (and 20 others) http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=libusb&searchon=names&suite=trusty&section=all12:19
evil_dan2wikoh great, which one do I use?12:19
ikonia!info avrdude12:20
ubottuavrdude (source: avrdude): software for programming Atmel AVR microcontrollers. In component universe, is extra. Version 6.0.1-1 (trusty), package size 270 kB, installed size 975 kB12:20
EriC^^SanuraiRM: it will open a terminal asking for the password, if you enter it, the pc will shutoff12:20
theadminOh.12:20
SanuraiRMif create sudo shut down -12:30?12:20
EriC^^SanuraiRM: ctrl+c will cancel12:20
theadminevil_dan2wik: Just apt-get install avrdude12:20
AMD-Z!find libusb12:20
ikoniaevil_dan2wik: avrdude is in the repo, you can just install it via software center12:20
ubottuFound: libusb++-0.1-4c2, libusb++-dev, libusb-0.1-4, libusb-1.0-0, libusb-1.0-0-dbg, libusb-1.0-0-dev, libusb-1.0-doc, libusb-dev, libusbmuxd-dev, libusbmuxd2 (and 20 others) http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=libusb&searchon=names&suite=trusty&section=all12:20
AMD-Z!help12:20
ubottuPlease don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience12:20
evil_dan2wikno, I need to compile it.12:20
ikoniaevil_dan2wik: why ?12:20
evil_dan2wikI made some changes to add support for my custom programmer.12:20
AMD-Z!find opengl12:20
ubottuFound: libqt4-opengl, libqt4-opengl-dev, libqt5opengl5, libqt5opengl5-dev, libqtopengl4-perl, libsmokeqtopengl4-3, python3-pyqt4.qtopengl, python3-pyqt4.qtopengl-dbg, python3-pyqt5.qtopengl, python3-pyqt5.qtopengl-dbg (and 32 others) http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=opengl&searchon=names&suite=trusty&section=all12:20
theadminevil_dan2wik: Figure out which libusb version it needs then and install that one12:20
ikoniaevil_dan2wik: how can you make changes if you don't know how to compile it ?12:21
cfhowlettAMD-Z, !ubottu | amd-z will send to you privately - and keep the channel clear12:21
evil_dan2wikikonia, It compiles fine, I just didn't realise it was missing libusb12:21
evil_dan2wikwithout libusb, only half the programmers work.12:21
theadmin!botabuse | AMD-Z12:21
ubottuAMD-Z: Please investigate with me only with "/msg ubottu Bot" or in #ubuntu-bots.  Search for factoids with "/msg ubottu !search factoid".12:21
SanuraiRMcrtl+c ic copy12:23
AMD-Ztheadmin: sorry I didn't know about this command so I was just trying something12:23
fribis there any way i can make this fix permanent? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=223181312:24
theadminAMD-Z: Just PM the bot whenever you need it for your personal purposes and not for helping the channel.12:24
SanuraiRMhow do I ask for confirmation12:24
SanuraiRMconfirmation turn off the pc12:25
SanuraiRMi te impossible12:25
ikoniaSanuraiRM: the logout and the shutdown buttons12:25
ikoniaSanuraiRM: this is already setup in xubuntu12:25
Psil0CybinI need someones help, I noticed that 14.04 does not have a swap even if you have full desktop encryption or not....I am trying to following this guide to configure my swap to actually work that was created during the install that for some reason is not showing with swapon -s12:27
Psil0Cybin(http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2224129)12:27
SanuraiRMok12:27
SanuraiRMtk12:27
Psil0CybinCan someone perhaps help me if they have done this, or have heard about this problem12:27
Psil0CybinI have a 1 gb laptop, so i kinda do need a swap for it...as my desktop gets very slow after 35 minutes of use12:28
Psil0Cybinusing libre office and gimp...for example.12:28
stevenso anyone using ssmtp 2.64 and has it working?12:29
cfhowlett!details | steven,12:30
ubottusteven,: Please elaborate; your question or issue may not seem clear or detailed enough for people to help you. Please give more detailed information, errors, steps, and possibly configuration files (use the !pastebin to avoid flooding the channel)12:30
stevencfhowlett: I already did but sure - so ssmtp freezes, I cant even use ctrl c to kill it but have to open a new terminal window and kill the process, mail.log doesnt print errors, syslog is clean as well12:31
ikoniaPsil0Cybin: he's posted a solution in the forum12:31
stevenit just stops after reading the credentials..no errors thrown, I eben enabled Debug=YES .. but nothing12:31
ikoniaPsil0Cybin: why are you asking for "hlpe" if the solution is in the forum post12:31
steveneven*12:32
Psil0Cybinikonia, just read the post below it though and the guy said it did not work for him (post #4) which is the most similar to my situation12:32
Psil0Cybinthus I am a little bit worried to try and run those commands but i guess the worst thing that can happen is i still wont have a swap right? I will not damage anything?12:32
cfhowlettPsil0Cybin, you won't damage anything12:32
Psil0Cybinkk good12:33
Psil0Cybinty12:33
Psil0Cybinill take a wack at it12:33
cfhowlettPsil0Cybin, besides you can undo it all as you know the command sequence12:33
t00l@Psil0Cybin ... I would just re-install Ubuntu with a Lubuntu Alternate 1404 CD from here http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/lubuntu/releases/14.04/release/ and going with the Expert-Install , where you can set it up encrypted and LVM with SWAP and son on ... Otherwise you could be stuck in changing current setup12:33
ikoniaPsil0Cybin: why are you even running encypted swap ??12:33
Psil0Cybinikonia, honestly i dont even care anymore, i just checked off the LVM encryption and home encryption during install12:33
Psil0Cybinand it said it would encrypt the swap as well, so i thought it all was working fine12:34
Psil0Cybinnow i could care less about encryption lol12:34
ikoniaPsil0Cybin: then re-install with out it12:34
Psil0Cybinyea i might12:34
ikoniaPsil0Cybin: why make a problem you can't manage12:34
Psil0Cybinif that does not fix it12:34
ikoniaPsil0Cybin: just use a flat install like %90 of the world12:34
Psil0Cybinyea i am learning that, all i do is pester everyone here12:34
ikoniaPsil0Cybin: keep it simple12:34
t00ldepends on the environment ... An OS on a net-/notebook should be encrypted ... always.12:35
Psil0Cybinwell that is what i think since i take it out of the house, and carry it around...that is why i originally did it12:35
Psil0Cybinincase i leave it on the bus, subway what ever12:35
anew*/1 * * * * is this every minute for a cron?12:35
Psil0Cybinat least someone will have a nice time trying to get into my information12:35
ikoniaPsil0Cybin: do you carry that sort of sensitive data around with you ?12:35
Psil0Cybinkinda sometimes going to and from school..12:36
Psil0Cybinnot like super sensative, but like12:36
Psil0Cybinwhy not share my emails with the person who would potentially "find" or steal my ltop.12:36
t00llol12:36
Psil0Cybinplus the cat pictures..12:37
Psil0Cybinbut alright ty ikonia for telling me it wont damage anything for trying12:37
ikoniaPsil0Cybin: the reason I'm asking this is - sadley, I see more people lose their data by not being able to manage encyption under linux, than people getting their laptop stolen12:38
rypervencheanew: Yes, but you don't need the /1 as a simple * means the same thing.12:39
ikoniaPsil0Cybin: so unless you have genuinely sensitive data, or a pretty strong linux user, I tend to guide people away from encyption12:39
Eco2876hello I have a very dumb question about networking: in a computer with ubuntu and two network adapters, there is one connected to a router and the other to another computer...to give internet access to this other computer do I need to set ubuntu as router or being all devices in the same network would do?12:39
Psil0Cybinikonia, i know i know, I have seen people on here talk about that, that is why its not like super sensative, but my emails my papers...stuff for work and school  i keep back ups of them at home so im not worried about personally losing my data, im more worried about someone having more fun with the content of my hard drive then actually what my computer is worth12:40
cfhowlettPsil0Cybin, seems like something a strong password would suffice for12:41
Psil0Cybinikonia, but i have a quick question i just want to make sure i am not completely lost... (www.pastebin.com/0qsdXDdY) is what i get when i run fdisk -l, would /dev/sda5, be my swap?12:41
Psil0Cybinjust confused with how its worded belo.12:41
Eco2876network adapters define networks so each adapter is in a different network, so I will need to set ubuntu as router to route packages from one network to the other...am I right?12:42
ikoniaPsil0Cybin: no12:42
ikoniaPsil0Cybin: it looks like sda4 is a volume group ?12:42
rypervenchePsil0Cybin: You are using LVM, so your swap is /dev/mapper/xubuntu--vg-swap12:42
ikoniaor is that hanging off sda212:42
rypervenche/dev/mapper/xubuntu--vg-swap_1 rather, it seems.12:43
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TJ-Psil0Cybin: Usually the swap is encrypted, if so, "grep swap /etc/crypttab" should show you which device is allocated to swap12:44
gcdsHello, i would like to make a server with raid1 based on mdadm. Do I need additional drive to boot system or raid could boot?12:50
bentech4youanyone please help me to fix my guacamole server-client setup12:51
bentech4youi have followd http://www.linuxintro.org/wiki/Guacamole12:51
ikoniagcds: you can boot raid1 just fine12:51
cfhowlett_bentech4you,  gcds, perhaps ask #ubuntu-server12:51
Psil0Cybinwierd12:51
gcdsikonia: I mean i have two hdd and created a raid 1 could i boot it without additional drive?12:51
Psil0Cybincrypttab says sda5_crypt and12:51
Psil0Cybinfor cryptswap1 it says /dev/urandom12:52
bentech4youthanks12:52
Psil0Cybinhow can i find out which exactly device its allocated to12:52
ikoniagcds: what additional drive ?12:52
ikoniagcds: you have 2 drives in a raid1 setup, you can boot from this setup just fine12:52
ikonia /dev/urandom is not your swap device12:52
gcdsikonia: Oh, so I do not need another drive to boot this raid?12:53
ikoniagcds: no12:53
gcdsikonia: ok thanks :)12:53
Psil0Cybinikonia, if /dev/urandom is not my swap device , how can i find out12:54
Psil0Cybinbecause all i can see is ( /dev/mapper/xubuntu--vg-swap) but i cant tell what device its on12:54
Psil0Cybin /etc/crypttab = www.pastebin.com/BYSFg1g9 |  /etc/fstab = www.pastebin.com/W1tvaLjT |12:55
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ikoniaPsil0Cybin: right - so that shows the uuid of the device12:56
ikoniaPsil0Cybin: again - this is not something you should be doing if you can't read the config files/manage the system12:57
ikoniaPsil0Cybin: you'll lose your data - just put a normal install on12:57
Psil0Cybinokay12:57
poplthis was interesting: https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=74059613:02
ubottuDebian bug 740596 in libtomcat6-java "java.lang.NoClassDefFoundError: org/apache/tomcat/util/descriptor/LocalResolver" [Normal,Open]13:02
poplfix a jetty problem by including some tomcat connector in a jetty configuration file :P13:02
vltHello. How can I switch quickly between two program windows "of the same kind" like two terminals or browser windows? Alt-Tabbing doesn't work here on Ubuntu :-/  Any idea?13:04
mlindnervlt: alt+~13:04
mlindneralt + ` rather13:04
mlindnervlt: its more of ubuntu's effort to be like apple13:05
mlindnerfor whatever reason13:05
cfhowlett_vlt, alt tab works fine for me ... ubuntustudio 14.0413:05
mlindnercfhowlett_: only if you have recently selected both windows13:06
vltmlindner: Hmmm I couldn't find that key. Which one is it?13:06
mlindnercfhowlett_: try switching between three of them13:06
mlindnervlt: ah I'm going by U.S. keyboard layout13:06
mlindnervlt: the key to the left of the 1 key13:06
cfhowlett_mlindner, true.13:07
vltmlindner: Aaah, that's "^" here. Thank you!13:07
vlt(or just "above TAB")13:08
mlindnervlt: yeah13:08
fajunghow can I do to remane files and removing this substring ".[VTV]" ? a.[VTV].mp4 to a.mp4 ?13:14
EriC^^!info pyrenamer13:15
ubottupyrenamer (source: pyrenamer): mass file renamer written in PyGTK. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.6.0-1.1 (trusty), package size 102 kB, installed size 736 kB13:15
wheatthinfajung, try quotes13:15
anuvrattheadmin: thanks13:17
wheatthinfajung, http://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/1136/batch-renaming-files13:18
reeedhi all. I just upgraded to 14.04 LTS. When I start KDE my previous session is restored -- a bunch of PDFs in okulars. But they aren't visible anywhere on any of my virtual screens! where is the KDE session manager config file that I may tweak this?13:25
mrvadonHello13:28
fajungwheatthin: this: "for f in *.txt; do mv "$f" "${f[VTV]}"; done" return: mv: «a.[VTV].txt» and «a.[VTV].txt» are the same files13:29
Amalesh_hello13:30
wishartHi folks - question - I've noticed recently that after a software update, Xubuntu requests a restart - it's happening quite often now.  Any reason why?13:33
Giant81normally I only see restarts when a kernel has been updated13:34
wishartThat was my first thought, the kernal - but does it get updated often during a 12 month period?13:35
cfhowlett_wishart, it does13:35
mrvadonwishart , may be important updates?13:36
k1lmost kernel updates are security ones iirc. so a restart from time to time usefull to take effect13:36
phelixEvery once inawhile one of my monitors just starts to wig out and flickers really bad. A reboot will fix it but is there a nother way to fix it without a reboot. I have some apps running that I can't reboot right now13:36
wishartThanks for your replies guys, it's eased my mind. I'm a newbie to Xubuntu and I really like it.13:37
blazingvoltHi, how to grab images only with 1.15 wget only?13:37
wishartBye for now13:37
blazingvolti try command "wget -r -nd -A jpg http://localhost/website" it display errors?13:37
wishartquit13:37
mrvadontest13:38
TheGurumrvadon: didn't work13:39
mrvadonwhy&13:39
mrvadon?13:39
TheGurujoking13:39
ChaosBringerhello all, have a question: Is there any drawbacks to mouting things over the standard folders listed in ~/.config/user-dirs ?13:41
ChaosBringere.g. a custom mount overriding $HOME/Downloads13:41
ikoniaChaosBringer: well it requires that mount to be there13:42
ikoniaother than that no13:42
ikoniait's just a filesystem/directory713:42
ChaosBringeryeah13:42
ChaosBringerbut i've been noticing strange behavior with it13:42
ChaosBringerfor example, nautilus doesn't always report the correct size, even when things area always mounted13:42
ChaosBringeralso, it doesn't automount the logical volumes even though they are in fstab13:43
ChaosBringerand there's cloned entries for them in mtab13:43
ChaosBringerfor some reason13:43
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ChaosBringerAny ideas?13:44
ChaosBringerhas anyone ever seen anything like this?13:44
ChaosBringerIt's a fresh install of 14.0413:44
schtinkyHello everyone. My trash won't delete. I've rm -rf ~/.local/share/Trash but clicking the trash icon shows all the files are still there.13:49
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schtinkyI've googled for answers, but they all say to delete that folder I've already deleted. Where is the trash icon window getting the list of files. What can I nuke to make it all really, actually delete13:50
fajungI'm getting a hard time trying to rename a file a.[VTV].txt >> a.txt, pls help13:50
schtinky(this is 14.04 unity)13:50
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R13oseIs there a terminal program out there that will warn you if you are able to paste multi-line input?13:54
elmaestrowhich video converting do we have in ubuntu and how to get it?13:56
ikonia!info keepass213:58
ubottukeepass2 (source: keepass2): Password manager. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.25+dfsg-1ubuntu0.1 (trusty), package size 762 kB, installed size 2355 kB13:58
elmaestroanyone? how do i convert videos in  ubuntu?13:59
fajungelmaestro, try ffmpeg13:59
cfhowlett_elm avconv14:00
elmaestrofajung, searching it from dash but not response, what next>14:00
Giant81https://imgur.com/gallery/h4BLz14:01
k1lelmaestro: that are CLI tools14:01
fajungin the App center or Google it, ffp.org or .com I think. it is a command line app14:01
ikoniaGiant81: why post that ?14:01
k1lGiant81: no spam14:01
Giant81oop sorry14:02
Giant81wrong room14:02
fajungelmaestro ffmpeg.com or .org14:02
DVA5912Good morning folks! Im hoping you can help me with an XBMCbuntu issue. Last night i had a ssh shell terminal quit on me leaving the lock on root enabled. And in my process to try to fix it ive inadvertently disabled/removed the XBMC session login type from the login screen. I can login to the XBMCbuntu desktop but i cant get the XBMC session to be able to login. has anyone encountered this? I didn't do too much of a through googlin14:02
fajungelmaestro here: http://ffmpeg.org/download.html14:03
k1lfajung: elmaestro no need for that. ffmpeg is in the official ubuntu repos14:04
bcveryelmaestro, Use avconv instead (ffmpegs replacement), install it with: sudo apt-get install libav-tools14:04
elmaestrohave searched for it in software centre but cant find it..14:04
k1lelmaestro: if you want a program with a GUI see http://askubuntu.com/questions/27864/best-video-converter14:06
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elmaestrobcvery, have used your terminal commands and seems to have finished, what next?14:08
elmaestrokil, have searched in software centre but cant find it..14:08
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bcveryelmaestro:  To use type: avconv -i in.avi out.mkv  # where in.avi is the original file, and out.mkv is the file you want out14:09
k1lelmaestro: what did you search for and what were the results? what is your actual problem at all? dont you know which program to use, which program to install, how to install, how to convert the video file?14:10
cart_manEverybody capable of writing drivers --> http://stackoverflow.com/questions/25309068/lubuntu-pci-driver-where-to-start-looking?noredirect=1#comment39449020_2530906814:12
anandhi am getting this error when i am trying to install libgtk2.0-dev     [The following packages have unmet dependencies:14:19
anandh libgtk2.0-dev : Depends: libpango1.0-dev (>= 1.20) but it is not going to be installed14:19
anandh                 Depends: libcairo2-dev (>= 1.6.4-6.1) but it is not going to be installed14:19
anandhE: Unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages.14:19
anandh]14:19
k1lanandh: usually that is caused by PPAs with wrong depencies. do you have PPAs enabled?14:20
anandhk1l: yes14:21
pds_corphi guys i wonder how i can save the output of a command in a variable in bin/bash14:25
HumorousoneHEllo14:26
pds_corpyes14:26
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HumorousoneIs this channel spefically for issues, or just ubuntu in general?14:27
k1lHumorousone: this is the technical help channel for ubuntu. for talk about ubuntu we got #ubuntu-offtopic14:27
HumorousoneThank you14:27
gr33n7007hThePadawan, var=$(ls)14:30
aeyesiHI! Can't run lxpanel :0 (lubuntu 14.04) getting ** (lxpanel:5640): WARNING **: terminal lxsession-default-terminal isn't known,14:30
aeyesianyone know how fix this ?14:30
aeyesiah already reseted config .config/lxpanel but nothin :z14:31
anonymous_russia14:35
R13oseIs there a terminal program out there that will warn you if you are able to paste multi-line input?14:36
mgchello all, if i have a script in my /etc/cron.daily dir but the /etc/crontab file is empty, will this script still be run @daily?14:40
nightdemon666any one in here who can provide help in troubleshooting emapthy and its inability to connect to irc (of any kind with any name, registered or not). i have telepathy-idle installed (installed by default) and I also have account-plugin-irc installed. im running ubuntu 14.04 64 bit mac version.14:40
cyberpatriothi14:41
cyberpatriotsup14:42
cyberpatriotdo any of you play starwall?14:42
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GalaxorHi.  I'm running a do-release-upgrade from 12.04 to 14.04.  It is currently installing/setting up all the packages, and it seems to have stopped at "Setting up samba (2:4.1.6+dfsg-1ubuntu2.14.04.3) ...".  The last thing it spit out was two messages: "{smbd,nmbd} start/running, process X".  Now it's just been sitting there, cpu, disk, and network idle, for several minutes.  What can I do to kick it back into action?14:45
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cyberpatriotdo any of you play starwahl14:46
cfhowlett_patience | cyberpatriot,14:47
cfhowlett_!patience | cyberpatriot,14:47
ubottucyberpatriot,: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. While you wait, try searching https://help.ubuntu.com or http://ubuntuforums.org or http://askubuntu.com/14:47
GalaxorLike, if I ^C that, can I restart it with some sort of "apt-get --plzcontinue" command?14:47
Picicyberpatriot: Is this an actual Ubuntu question? If so, just state the actual question.14:47
compdocGalaxor, usually it pauses to ask if you want to keep your smb.conf file14:47
compdocmake sure the dialog box isnt hidden14:48
cfhowlett_Galaxor, is there a hidden response dialog waiting?14:48
Galaxorcompdoc, cfhowlett_ : Where would I find the dialog box?  Like, in a window?  The last dialog box was in the console.14:49
compdocif you ran the command in a console, then it appears there14:49
cfhowlett_Galaxor, popups, popunders?14:49
Galaxorcompdoc: That's what I did.  But the dialog is not there.  cfhowlett_: I don't see anything in my window list.14:50
compdochit enter to see if it continues. but you might want to backup you smb.conf14:50
Galaxorcompdoc: Three enters didn't do it.14:51
compdocbad luck, then14:51
InsaneRealityk1l: Hi, it's me again, about the libreoffice-base package. I purged the ppa as you advised, but now it says "The package libreoffice-base needs to be reinstalled, but I can't find an archive for it."14:51
k1ldid you use ppa-purge?14:52
Lisac196hi14:52
InsaneRealityk1l: yes14:52
Lisac196i need some help14:52
cfhowlett_!ask14:52
ubottuPlease don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience14:52
k1lnow "sudo apt-get update&&sudo apt-get dist-upgrade" to make sure you got the latest packages list from the server and have all packages up to date14:53
InsaneRealityk1l: working on it14:53
Lisac196i have instaled edubuntu 14-04 on laptop and when i tried live cd wi fi works normaly. When I instaled edubuntu on laptop it says that network services are incompatibile with this version14:53
Galaxorcompdoc: In pstree, I see screen -> trusty, then it branches.  1) -> dpkg -> samba.postinst -> invoke-rc.d -> start;  2) package-hook -> sh.14:54
GalaxorThis supports the hidden dialog theory.  Maybe I can get the pid of that sh and kill it?14:54
compdocGalaxor, are you logged in with ssh?14:55
InsaneRealityk1l: Done that but at the end, it displays the same message: "E: The package libreoffice-base needs to be reinstalled, but I can't find an archive for it."14:55
Galaxorcompdoc: Nope, I'm on the console.14:55
cfhowlett_InsaneReality, radical fix = purge source.list and rebuild14:56
kennenHi, i want to boot my RPI from an NFS share, in the boot screen i see the message "Wait 8 seconds for Network Interface" can i increase this value? My Wifi bridge is to slow for this14:56
Galaxorcompdoc: I mean, X windows, not VCs, but I could move to a VC.14:56
k1lInsaneReality: sudo apt-get autoclean&&sudo apt-get install --reinstall libreoffice-base14:56
compdocGalaxor, I think its too late to move. If I use ssh, I need to set the client to use ANSI colors, or I cant see anything14:57
Galaxorcompdoc: I saw the last dialog, no problem.14:58
InsaneRealityk1l: Same again :(14:58
compdocok14:58
Galaxorcompdoc: Okay, I tried to kill -9 the sh and the package-hook that spawned it, with no success.14:58
InsaneRealityk1l: Shall I try to completely purge libreoffice, and then try to reinstall?14:58
Lisac196anybody can answer to me?14:58
k1lInsaneReality: yes14:58
cyberpatriot_how do you change your username?14:59
InsaneRealityk1l: I was afraid you would say yes lol14:59
k1lkennen: you cant run ubuntu on the rpi since its arm is too old. please ask the support of the OS you run on there14:59
somsipcyberpatriot_: /nick {newname}14:59
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InsaneRealityk1l: Sadly I cannot purge too. Maybe I should try re-enable the ppa and then try to remove it? would that work?15:00
k1lwell, ppa-purge (the command) should have removed the faulty PPA package and set the original ubuntu package.15:01
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InsaneRealityk1l: It tried to, I think I saw something like that message, but it couldn't. Would there be a log that I can check?15:02
Galaxorcompdoc: Allright, I crossed my fingers and hit ^C.  That kicked it back into action.15:02
k1lInsaneReality: make sure you got the regular ubuntu repos enabled (and universe) and that no other PPA makes a problem15:02
compdocheh, cool15:02
InsaneRealityk1l: The regular and universe are enabled. I dunno if any other ppa is problematic. Is there a way to check?15:05
Lisac196anybody can help?15:05
Lisac196i have instaled edubuntu 14-04 on laptop and when i tried live cd wi fi works normaly. When I instaled edubuntu on laptop it says that network services are incompatibile with this version15:05
k1lapt-cache policy libreoffice-base15:05
Lisac196can you explain more i am new on linux15:06
InsaneRealityk1l: http://paste.ubuntu.com/8046053/15:07
k1lLisac196: that was not meant for you. but you could tell which wifi adapter you got and people can tell you what to do then15:07
Lisac196ok sory :D15:07
k1lInsaneReality: you need to get rid of that libreoffice install15:08
k1lInsaneReality: did you install by a .deb package?15:08
InsaneRealityk1l: No through ppa, I had it when I was on precise, the error was after upgrading to trusty15:09
Lisac196i have intel centrino wireless -N 103015:12
InsaneRealityk1l: So any advise on how to get rid of libreoffice?15:12
k1lsudo apt-get purge libreoffice15:13
InsaneRealitysadly that does not work, same error15:14
k1lsudo dpkg -r libreoffice*15:15
InsaneRealityk1l: http://paste.ubuntu.com/8046110/15:17
InsaneRealityk1l: Is it possible to download and install the package from http://packages.ubuntu.com/15:19
k1lInsaneReality: try without the *15:19
InsaneRealityk1l: dpkg: warning: ignoring request to remove libreoffice which isn't installed15:20
k1lsudo dpkg -r libreoffice-base15:20
InsaneRealitydpkg: error processing package libreoffice-base (--remove):  package is in a very bad inconsistent state; you should  reinstall it before attempting a removal Errors were encountered while processing:  libreoffice-base15:20
InsaneRealityis there something like a force remove?15:21
k1lsudo dpkg --remove --force-remove-reinstreq libreoffice-base15:22
InsaneRealitytrying that now15:22
InsaneRealityno success, http://paste.ubuntu.com/8046161/15:23
k1lafter that "sudo apt-get purge libreoffice-base"15:23
InsaneRealitydidn't work :(15:24
k1lok, another run now with : sudo apt-get -f install15:25
k1lsomehow that precise PPA did really break the package system15:25
InsaneRealitynopes15:25
InsaneRealityyes, I agree15:26
MonkeyDustthat's why ppa's are not supported here15:26
InsaneRealitywould it work to download and install that package from http://packages.ubuntu.com/trusty/libreoffice-base15:27
wheatthinInsaneReality, wouldn't that already be in the repo's?15:27
cfhowlettInsaneReality, you can always compile from source --- ifyou must15:27
k1lok, another and my last thought on this: sudo mv /var/lib/dpkg/info/libreoffice-base.* /tmp/15:27
k1lsudo dpkg --remove --force-remove-reinstreq libreoffice-base15:27
InsaneRealityyay! that worked!! or I think it did, how do I know for sure?15:29
k1lsudo apt-get remove libreoffice-base15:29
InsaneRealityPackage 'libreoffice' is not installed, so not removed15:30
InsaneRealityat last!!!15:30
k1llooks good15:30
InsaneRealityk1l: wow, I was ready to pull all my hair out, thanks very much :)15:30
k1lnow first: sudo apt-get autoremove &&sudo apt-get autoclean15:30
k1lto make sure the old packages get wiped out so the system is clean again15:31
g4br1e1Hi all15:31
InsaneRealityok, it says "0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 15 not upgraded." - so I need to upgrade those 15 now?15:31
k1lsudo apt-get update &&sudo apt-get dist-upgrade15:32
k1land see what it wants to upgrade now15:32
g4br1e1I was trying a full backtrack installation on a mobile device15:32
cfhowlettInsaneReality, sudo apt-get dist-upgrade      will bring you current on all packages installed15:32
cfhowlettg4br1e1, back track not supported here.  sorry.15:32
g4br1e1can you tell me optimal requirements that don't screw up my phone15:32
g4br1e1k15:32
k1lg4br1e1: backtrack is deprecated and not supported in here anyway15:32
g4br1e1sorry15:32
InsaneRealitycfhowlett: thanks, good to know that15:33
k1lg4br1e1: the new one is called kali linux and based on debian now15:33
g4br1e1Ok, the thing here is what mobile device configuration is optimal for any linux distribution installation15:33
cfhowlett!touch | g4br1e1,15:34
ubottug4br1e1,: Information about the Ubuntu Touch platform for Phone and Tablet is available here https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch . Support and discussion in #ubuntu-touch15:34
g4br1e1ubottu: thanks15:35
ubottuYou're welcome! But keep in mind I'm just a bot ;-)15:35
k1ldepends heavily on the device and the distro you are going to use. better is to look int xda-developers for your device and see which distros are already made working15:35
rksvyHi, I often get this message : TCP: out of memory -- consider tuning tcp_mem15:38
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rksvyDoes someone have suggestions about how to debug this or on what basis to une this parameter ?15:38
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InsaneRealityk1l: Everything seems to be good now. Update successful. Thanks for everything15:41
k1lInsaneReality: happy to help, no problem15:41
InsaneRealityNow I hope that the gnome-shell problem will clear out too, wish me luck :D15:42
SanuraiRMhi15:43
SanuraiRMi have installed xscreensaver15:44
st4rs41l0rdoes anyone know the equivalend of ginstall on ubuntu?15:44
st4rs41l0requivalent*15:44
cfhowlett!info ginstall15:45
ubottuPackage ginstall does not exist in trusty15:45
st4rs41l0ri dont know the source too, might be solaris15:47
SanuraiRMhttp://paste.ubuntu.com/8046356/ i dont see the applications because if installed15:47
cfhowlettSanuraiRM, open a terminal: xscreensaver15:47
st4rs41l0rit would also be much appreciated if you can tell me where i can ask about this15:47
SanuraiRMok15:48
SanuraiRMivan@ivan-P4i65G:~/Scrivania$ xscreensaver15:48
SanuraiRMxscreensaver: 17:48:15: already running on display :0.0 (window 0x2c00001)15:48
SanuraiRM from process 1741 (ivan@ivan-P4i65G).15:48
cfhowlettSanuraiRM, open a terminal: xscreensaver-demo15:48
cfhowlettst4rs41l0r, ask ##linux15:48
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SanuraiRMo thank you15:50
SanuraiRMcfhow15:50
cfhowlettSanuraiRM, happy2help15:50
SanuraiRMbut where is the program?15:50
cfhowlettSanuraiRM, whereis xscreensaver15:51
SanuraiRMthe program is installed but no in menu15:52
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morsnowskii have a virtual ubuntu 14.04, which si working ok. no i have an install directory and it shows me the content in chinese characters which is anoying and hampering15:53
morsnowskianyboda an idea how to force western charactersß15:53
cfhowlettmorsnowski, language support settings: make sure you have installed English then delete Chinese15:54
morsnowskihmm all other content is as englsih as it can be15:54
morsnowskiand i didn't install chinese15:54
cfhowlettmorsnowski, apply English system wide = happened to me as well.  Presumably as I am in Beijing15:55
morsnowskii would i do that as quickly as possible, since you had this issue already you probably know where to tweak ubuntu15:55
cfhowlettmorsnowski, you would think so - I'm on Ubuntustudio.  Different arrangement and settings system15:56
morsnowskiso set it to english systemwide but still no joy15:59
cfhowlettmorsnowski, delete the chinese ... I went through via command line and killed the packages with wild cards: sudo apt-get purge LanguageName*16:00
fajunghow can I tweak this[ "for f in *.txt; do f2="$(echo "$f" | sed -e 's/\[VTV\].//')"; mv "$f" "$f2"; done" ] to make a find command? pls need help16:02
gr33n7007hfajung, /join #bash they will help you :)16:03
needhelphello everyone... I bought a 2560x1080 monitor, but ubuntu 14.04 doesn't seem to support that resolution. what should I do?16:03
fajungok, I'm going...16:04
fajungthanks16:04
SanuraiRMbecause xscreensaver is installed but no in menu??16:04
SchrodingersScatSanuraiRM: it's not in settings?16:05
morsnowskicfhowlett: there is no chinese that i could see16:05
needhelpyou talking to me sanurai? i haven't installed anything like that... I just installed ubuntu on my mac mini. no, settings only supports up to 1920x108016:05
morsnowskiin the languge support section there is no chinese16:05
morsnowskiwell ok I'll try it16:05
SanuraiRMyes is in settings16:06
SanuraiRMescuseme16:06
cfhowlettmorsnowski, language-pack-gnome-zh*16:06
needhelpso wat should I do?16:07
SanuraiRMlock after 2 minuts?16:07
SanuraiRMif the mouse dont move16:07
SanuraiRMstart the screensaver?16:08
SanuraiRMdont start16:09
SanuraiRMbecause is open the chat?16:09
wheatthindid you type xscreensaver or the launch command to see if it worked?16:10
wheatthinThey just might not have a menu driven option enabled.16:10
morsnowskicfhowlett: just doing a clean fresh install, if that still persists I'll try you suggestion16:11
ubuntu062hello i am following this http://stackoverflow.com/questions/1722064/connect-to-external-server-by-using-phpmyadmin but it's not working16:11
ubuntu062have any idea16:11
ubuntu062?16:11
wheatthinSanuraiRM, ^^16:11
ubuntu062any body ?16:12
wheatthinubuntu062, did you make the correct statements for the your conf?16:14
wheatthinubuntu062, btw, it's a security risk to doing this, because of clear text being stored as your authentication stuff16:14
ubuntu978some one reply me about phpmyadmin probelm16:18
ubuntu978but i couldn't read his answer16:18
ubuntu978could  i get history of today16:18
ubuntu978for this channel16:18
daftykinsthe channel is probably publically logged, you can look through there16:18
bcvery!logs | ubuntu97816:18
ubottuubuntu978: Official channel logs can be found at http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/ . LoCo channels are now logged there too.16:18
errysigh16:19
erryi'm having nautilus (and potentialy other stuff) segfault after rewwsuming from sleep16:19
errybut i'm not sure what to install to get the valgrind output to not be all ?????16:19
ubuntu978i didn't find the log of this channel16:21
ubuntu978http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2014/08/14/16:21
somsipubuntu978: wheatthin> ubuntu062, did you make the correct statements for the your conf?  btw, it's a security risk to doing this, because of clear text16:21
XinosHello, someone want to speak with me?16:22
XinosI'm boring...16:22
daftykinsXinos: no trolls thanks, support questions only16:22
ubuntu978yes i did16:22
ubuntu978i will send the code16:22
XinosI'm not a troll...16:22
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XinosCode?16:22
ubuntu978http://paste.ubuntu.com/8046615/16:23
ubuntu978is any porblem in my config file16:24
Xinosdaftykins: Why you think I'm troll?16:25
daftykinsXinos: lets take this to #ubuntu-offtopic where it belongs16:26
XinosOh, okey. But... How many peoples are there?16:26
bencccan a zip "escape" the current directory when extracting it?16:33
benccextract a file to "../some.file" ?16:33
tsunamiewhats the eqivilant of Active directory in ubuntu?16:35
tsunamieplease don't say a raw LDAP server with KErberous16:36
yuriyHi, I'm having trouble upgrading 12.04 to 14.04.  I keep getting "Connection failed" downloading some packages, even though some downloaded successfully.  I already changed my sources from us to just archive.ubuntu.com but still getting the same errors.  All other networking including fetching update lists seems to work fine.16:36
phasedPlasmaRiflpossibly something like LDAP tsunamie16:36
phasedPlasmaRifltsunamie: *openldap rather.16:36
mjaykyuriy: can you post the output to a pastbin, also have you removed all other repos?16:36
phasedPlasmaRifloh i didn't get the don't say part yet. sorry.16:36
tsunamiephasedPlasmaRifl, thats not an active directory Eqivelent. For example, a redhat/centos on is freeipa16:36
phasedPlasmaRiflfreeipa i thought was simply a wrapper around multiple services. although that may be what you are looking for which would be more than directory services no?16:37
yuriymjayk: http://paste.ubuntu.com/8046688/ that's my screen now16:38
brokep1someone good at Ubuntu 14.04 LTS?16:39
NDSbrokep1 im using 14.0416:39
phasedPlasmaRifllooking at stack exchange those seem to be the hottest options, freeIPA or openldap \w chef or puppet16:39
NDScccp3:16:40
mjaykyuriy: so no packages download ?16:40
cccp3Who thinks the "codenames" of Ubuntu are made without thought?16:40
cccp3Generated by a computer, people just clicking the button and typing the words in...16:41
daftykinsbrokep1: ask the question16:41
cccp3at Canonical...16:41
MonkeyDustcccp3  shuttleworth always gives an explanation of the codenames, but that's offtopic here16:41
mjaykcccp3 #ubuntu-offtopic for non-questions is probably better16:41
cccp3okay16:42
NDSim gettign an error "system program problem detected" occasionaly, esp when i start the computer. is it anything serious?16:42
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GivenToCodeshould this url work? http://releases.ubuntu.com/14.04/ubuntu-14.04-server-amd64.iso.torrent16:47
GivenToCodeor rather, does it not timeout for anyone else?16:47
mjaykNDS: you need to look at the logs to find out what the error is about16:47
izaberahttp://ubuntuhandbook.org/index.php/2014/04/ubuntu-14-04-set-different-wallpaper-for-each-workspace/ this feature is pretty cool, but it hides my desktop shortcuts. is there any way to show them?16:48
NDSmjayk: how to look up the logs? also, i ticked "ignore this error in future" option. so can i get the info about it?16:49
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mjaykNDS im not sure I would look in /var/crash16:50
cccp3Okay16:51
cccp3For real, if you add a bit of SUDO to the /dev/audio thing, it works (with a buttload of bells)16:51
cccp3But, this will work without the SUDO: cat /dev/urandom | padsp tee /dev/audio16:52
cccp3That DOES work, although it puts static.16:52
brokep1now i have managed to register my nick ;)16:52
rwwcccp3: support questions only here, not random "protips", thanks16:52
cccp3OKAY16:52
brokep1cccp3: Ty for the help ;)16:53
yuriymjayk: none of the remaining ones. many of them already downloaded.16:54
brokep1how do i change my password in ubuntu?16:54
fridaynextI've got my Hackintosh plugged into an APC UPS.  Is there a way to share that signal with my Ubuntu 14.04 box running NUT?16:57
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daftykinsfridaynext: this is not hackintosh support16:59
thewinneroh16:59
fridaynextdaftykins: yeah but if i'm running a nut server on my ubuntu box, i'm wondering if there is a way to share that server with other machines16:59
mineharry01hi, i have a HP EliteBook 850 G1 and Ubuntu 14.04 on it. What could it be if the fingerprint is not found by fingerprint-gui?16:59
thewinnerok17:02
thewinneri from thailand17:02
eeeethewinner: try /join #ubuntu-th , but i recommend asking here if you can speak english17:03
thewinneroh17:04
thewinnerthank yoo17:04
eeee( there are only a couple users there usually )17:05
eeeei think17:05
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sammydoes networkmanager run dnsmasq for a basic wifi or wired ethernet connection, or just when using a VPN?17:20
s7ranyone here running 14.04 lts?17:22
DJoness7r: Probably a lot of people17:22
s7rcan anyone tell me the output in a 14.04 of the command # lsb_release -c17:23
ethteckI'm having an issue with grub. Is this the right place to ask?17:23
s7ri am testing soething17:23
ethtecks7r, Codename:trusty17:23
DJoness7r:  lsb_release -c17:23
DJonesCodename:trusty17:23
mrvadonHello17:24
sammyethteck: if youre using grub in ubuntu, yes. ask away!17:24
ethteckI'm having a bizarre issue with making grub work. For some reason, there are two identically named grub boot options in the BIOS and one of them doesn't work (fails to boot because of secureboot) while the other one works great. Every time I remove the broken one from my bios boot options, it comes back upon restart. Furthermore, sometimes the computer boots up and takes me to a grub screen (which I presume is this broken ve17:24
ethteckrsion) with no menu or anything. Just a command line.17:24
s7rDJones many thanks. to me the same. it shouldn't be wheezy?17:24
ethteckThanks, sammy. I asked my question above :)17:25
sammys7r: I think since this isn't a wheezy install, even if it uses packages distributed with wheezy, it says your current ubuntu distribution codename instead. there's a lot of differences (patches, mostly) between trsuty and wheezy packages17:26
DJoness7r: Why, wheezy is Debian, not ubuntu17:28
fernHello17:29
fernI have some problem about unity login and i need some help.17:29
fernI am using 14.04. After i log out, i am triying to log in again, but the unity drop me back to login screen.  I can login in tty1. Currently I am using a guest session.17:30
fernCan someone help me?17:30
mrvadonwho uses htop?17:32
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SchrodingersScatmrvadon: you? me? everyone we know?17:33
mrvadonyes17:34
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sammyoh I use htop. it's fantastic.17:43
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unopastemrvadon you have been muted for 60 seconds as it looks like you are pasting lots of lines into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com and paste just the URL of your data here when you are unmuted17:43
lucidoremote17:43
lucidoremote desktop sharing stopped working after upgrade17:44
streulmawhat is the best setup for SSD and HDD partitions?17:45
streulmato partition17:47
mrvadontest17:47
sammywb mrvadon. having an issue with htop?17:50
daftykinsstreulma: whole lot on the SSD, then symlink all media folders in your user's /home to the HDD17:50
DJones!test | mrvadon17:50
ubottumrvadon: Testing... Testing... 1. 2.. 3... ( by the way, remember that you can use /join #test )17:50
yuriyI just downloaded those remaining 4 packages manually to /var/cache/apt/archives.  I don't know WTH was going on.17:50
streulmaah daftykins :) hello17:51
daftykinsgreetings once more17:51
streulmadaftykins: SSD is 250GB Samsung and HDD is 750GB WD Black17:51
daftykinsstreulma: tonnes of space for just ubuntu, that17:51
sammystreulma: I'm not usually for everything in one partition (makes for really long filesystem checks when necessary) but I'd suggest the same as daftykins; / and /usr and /var and anything else system related on the SSD, then /home on the hard drive. if you're going to use valve's steam to play games, you can symlink ~/.local/share/steam to the SSD as well. you shouldn't need the SSD for music or video, I don't think.17:52
pbxhow do i tell ubuntu not to mount my iphone?17:52
streulmapbx: dconf-editor17:53
daftykinspbx: don't plug it in. enable a screenlock.17:53
daftykinssammy: no not the whole of /home on the HDD, as that'll prevent the speed benefit to the .config files17:53
daftykinsjust the folders like Documents, Desktop, Music, Pictures... those can be symlink'd to the mechanical storage17:54
Efare yeah, just use links to the hdd17:54
pbxstreulma, thanks.  what do i do? it's not obvious.17:54
sammydaftykins: that makes sense. I never use those folders for storage anyway. I guess there are other things in ~ that people might want on the SSD too, especially considering you'll never fill 256gb with ubuntu OS files17:55
daftykinsstreulma: sound simple enough then?17:56
streulmaeuh, yes17:56
daftykinsstreulma: i'd even recommend installing the OS to the SSD whilst the mechanical is disconnected17:56
bbteufelwhoah , a lot of folks around here17:58
daftykinsyes. got a support question?17:58
bbteufelhow are you guys ?17:58
EfareCould explain why, daftykins? Since i don't se a benefit of it.17:58
bbteufelyep17:58
daftykinsEfare: why to what?17:58
bbteufelI have an old ubuntu and my repos don't work17:58
schmichaelsuspend is broken for me with a lot of errors in /var/log/pm-suspend.log like this: /usr/sbin/pm-suspend: 321: /usr/sbin/pm-suspend: cannot create /sys/power/state: Read-only file system17:59
EfareDisconnect  the hdd17:59
daftykinsbbteufel: sounds like your release has gone !eol17:59
farbodwho's OS is Linux?17:59
bbteufelcan I change them, do I have to upgrade or is there anything else that I can do ?17:59
schmichaelgoogling hasn't turned up much. any idea why pm-suspend wouldn't be able to write to /sys/power/** ? (i'm running pm-suspend with sudo)17:59
daftykinsbbteufel: how bad are we talking? (run 'cat /etc/issue')17:59
bbteufel13.0417:59
daftykinsEfare: it's a little bit involved as i happen to know the user's troubles over quite some period of time, suffice to say life will be made easier.18:00
bbteufelnot that bad :P18:00
farbodbbteufel:are you in Ubuntu?18:00
bbteufelyep18:00
daftykinsbbteufel: ok so your choices are to 1) upgrade twice, first to 13.10 then 14.04 - this could cause much breakage or 2) clean install 14.04 after backing up your data. i'd choose 218:00
eeeeschmichael: what do you mean can't write?18:01
blackyboyfind /etc/ -type f -exec cp -r {} \; could any one explain this commands last part {} \; why they using this {} and \; please guide me18:01
bbteufelthe problem is I can't install anything unless you know a good way to reset my bios pass ( removing the clock from the motherboard is not an option )18:01
farbodbbteufel:are you ok whit it? and what is your app to writing html in it?18:02
Efaredaftykins: Ah ok... So there is no technical benefit of doing so.18:02
daftykinsbbteufel: why is it not?18:02
daftykinsEfare: there is from ensuring no bootloader placement issues, yep18:02
bbteufelfarbod I don't understand your question18:02
daftykinsbbteufel: why do you not know your BIOS pass? is this not your own system?18:03
bbteufelI can't install because I can't boot from usb/cdrom and my bios got locked ( as in I forgot the pass )18:03
Efarereset bios maybe?18:03
schmichaeleeee: the error in pm-suspend.log is: /usr/sbin/pm-suspend: cannot create /sys/power/state: Read-only file system18:04
farbodbbteufel:what is your app to writing html?18:04
bbteufelnot an option18:04
bbteufelwhy would I write html ?18:04
KaiForcebbteufel: just got here, what kind of system.18:04
daftykinsbbteufel: and so why is removing the battery or bridging the CMOS reset jumper not an option?18:04
farbodbbteufel:what is your app to writing html in ubuntu?18:05
daftykinsfarbod: use a text editor and STOP repeating yourself18:05
farbodthank you18:05
farbodi should be go18:05
bbteufelI am not allowed to open up the laptop because of the warranty18:05
KaiForceI'm upgrading a system, and the upgrade blows up (this is a copy of the production server).  It blows up when doing a release upgrade.  How does one troubleshoot this.18:05
KaiForcebbteufel: can you boot to any other device?18:06
farbodbye,and goodbye18:06
daftykinsbbteufel: sounds like it's work provided and you don't really have access to it ;)18:06
bbteufelKaiForce: If I could I wouldn't be here ...18:06
daftykinsbbteufel: phone up the manufacturer for a BIOS reset18:06
KaiForcebbteufel: Under the parameters you have provided, the answer is you are screwed.18:06
schmichaeleeee: mount options and file permissions for sysfs seem normal18:06
millyI'm having a problem with my graphics; they're agonizingly slow.  I have SiS Mirage 771/671 graphics, but Cinnamon runs in software rendering mode.  how can i enable the drivers?18:06
daftykinsKaiForce: PPAs would be your #1 problem maker18:07
daftykinsmilly: there are no good drivers, anything SiS should be buried 6 feet underground or fired into the sun.18:07
bbteufelKaiForce: so from within the os there is no other way to upgrade/fix this problem ?18:08
daftykinsmilly: your only option(s) are to upgrade, use a lighter desktop environment, or change distro entirely18:08
daftykinsbbteufel: you can, you can upgrade twice, but you're still going to need to backup first because bad things will likely happen18:08
daftykins!eol | bbteufel Follow the last link in this highlight18:08
ubottubbteufel Follow the last link in this highlight: End-Of-Life is the time when security updates and support for an Ubuntu release stop, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Releases for more information. Looking to upgrade from an EOL release? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EOLUpgrades18:08
daftykins^18:08
millydaftykins: why arent they supported?18:09
KaiForcebbteufel: You could possibly locate a utility that puts bad data into the BIOS config, thus forcing a reset.  I've got one that runs under DOS somewhere.  I don't know about Ubunut18:09
KaiForceubuntu*18:09
daftykinsmilly: because they're antiques18:09
bbteufelKaiForce: that sounds better but I use only linux :(18:10
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KaiForcebbteufel: doesn't matter since you can't boot to another OS anyway.18:10
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bbteufelbut I'll search for one that works under linux . Thanks for the ideea18:10
eeeeschmichael: if you sudo su, then run pm-suspend does it work?18:10
bbteufeloh ... ok18:10
daftykinsbbteufel: i told you. contact the manufacturer.18:11
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daftykinsbbteufel: if you can't do that you must not be the legal owner of the machine18:11
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daftykinseeee: argh not 'sudo su' on an ubuntu machine! bad bad! :)18:11
bbteufelwhy not daftykins  ?18:11
bbteufelare you an american ?18:11
eeeedaftykins: lol :)18:11
daftykinsno i am not american, what possibly relevance does nationality have to your issue?18:12
daftykins*possible18:12
bbteufelwhat you said was so ....18:12
daftykinsbbteufel: logical?18:12
schmichaeleeee: nope, same error18:12
bbteufeldaftykins: there is no logic in that18:12
daftykinsbbteufel: contacting the manufacturer to unlock the BIOS?18:12
bbteufeldaftykins: the manufacturer might not have a local phone and I can't afford to make international calls18:13
daftykinsbbteufel: ok i've given you two approaches to resolve your current situation, take them or leave them.18:13
anewso since i updated ubuntu... when iopen the terminal from gui, there is no prompt18:13
anewjust an all black screen18:13
schmichaeleeee: it's really strange... something is preventing writes to /sys/power, but mount & permissions look fine...18:13
anewanyone have any ideas18:13
bbteufelyes daftykins thanks18:13
daftykinsbbteufel: that's the most ridiculous thing i've ever heard18:13
bbteufelI will think about both18:13
bbteufelI just hoped I could do this from inside the os18:13
daftykinsit's becoming pretty apparent you don't own the machine18:13
daftykinsgood luck anyway18:13
bbteufel:))18:13
eeeeschmichael: would strace help ?18:14
schmichaeleeee: "echo core > /sys/power/pm_test" as root gives me the same read-only fs error. not sure how strace would help. it would just show open(...) returning EPERM18:15
SegFaultAXI'm trying to use this ppa for installing squid3 on trusty. I added it and updated apt, but apt-cache showpkg squid3 only lists the version in the official repo. Why might that be?18:20
KaiForcedaftykins: I followed flurdy.com/docs/postfix on LTS (I think the previous LTS Server), so PPA problem sounds right.  Is there an upgrade log I can look at to determine what is blowing up?  Also, after I reboot, some of the startup stuff says "fail" but it flies by too fast to read.  Anywhere I can see what is failing?18:20
Exagone313i have a problem using dd command, after a while my computer shuting down18:20
ThKoHi, I’ve installed Apache ANT by sudo apt-get … Now I’m looking for the folder where it has been installed…I need the path for adding this into bashrc…Any hints? Thank you18:21
daftykinsKaiForce: no idea beyond system logs i'm afraid, process would be to revert to backup, grab ppa-purge, purge your added packages taking note of the packages from them, upgrade, reinstall where necessary18:21
SchrodingersScatExagone313: could it be a heating problem?  dd itself certainly won't activate a shutdown18:21
KaiForcedaftykins: good info, thanks.  I gotta do this right as it is a mail server with multiple domains.18:22
schmichaeleeee: i posted to askubuntu: http://askubuntu.com/questions/511413/suspend-broken-pm-suspend-fails-due-to-sys-power-being-a-read-only-file-syst18:23
eeeeok18:23
dadams_ i'm trying to understand linux file permissions for setting up a new server but failing. Can someone point me in the right direction for setting permission inheritance?18:23
Exagone313schoenemann: do you mean that my hard drive is damaged?18:24
dadams_i've posted an SO question here: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/25313372/setting-linux-file-permission-inheritance-using-acls18:24
Exagone313it's possible18:24
pbxdadams_, what do you mean by "permission inheritance"?18:24
dadams_pbx: files created in a directory would have the same permissions of the directory18:24
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dadams_i've tried using setfacl but i don't know what i'm doing18:25
Exagone313schoenemann: so I can't know if there is an error that appears in console before shutdown. i'll try to copy files instead :/18:25
daftykinsdadams_: is this over SAMBA?18:25
tac_In Ubuntu, what is the preferred way to allow certain users to view specific system logs (such as the nginx log?)18:25
tac_Do I want to add that user to the adm and syslog groups?18:25
dadams_daftykins: i'm using vagrant to play around with, not over SAMBA though18:25
daftykinsso what users are creating files?18:26
Exagone313tac_: create a new group for18:26
SchrodingersScatExagone313: it is possible, I've had machines that would work /relatively/ ok, but then the constant reads from dd would make it overheat.  A fan helped my situation, not sure about you.  If you just need the files, you could also try rsync.18:26
dadams_daftykins: i'm just trying to learn how permissions work so i create a user and 'su mynewuser' to be him and then create a directory which i thought was set up for permission inheritance(or whatever the right word is)18:27
dadams_created a file within a directory*18:27
Exagone313i was trying to copy my old hard drive from my old portable computer (80 GB) and I want to install linux on it18:27
Exagone313to give it a better life18:28
daftykinsdadams_: you would add both your user and that user to a group you create, (at least this way will work, it's not necessarily the best approach) then you'd set the ownership to user:thatgroup on the folder... then change permissions accordingly for the group18:28
daftykinsExagone313: look into clonezilla, bootable disk imaging tool18:29
coventry`I'm trying to boot ubuntu from a liveUSB stick on a Dell Inspiron i3531-1200BK.  I thought I could follow the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UEFI but none of the options in step 2 are obvious to me in the BIOS interface.  I can set FastBoot mode to "minimal", but can't actually turn it off.  Under "UEFI Boot", the USB stick shows up as an option, but there seems to be no way to select it over the HD.  If I elect to18:29
coventry`turn off Secure Boot, I get a warning that the OS may need to be reinstalled, so I've steered clear of that for now.  I can add a boot option, and select the USB file system for it, but then it asks me for a file path.  Not sure what to put for the file path...18:29
dadams_daftykins: right. i think i've done what you describe but then when i `cd` into that new directory and create a file. The permissions of that new file aren't the same as the containing folder, which is what i'm aiming to do18:30
daftykinscoventry`: you're using the wrong approach, you don't need to change boot order, just select a different boot device one-time. power off, power on and press F12 to get the boot device menu18:30
daftykinscoventry`: secure boot is fine to stay on with 14.04.118:30
daftykinscoventry`: are you intending to dualboot with Windows 8?18:31
daftykinsdadams_: ah i follow, no idea though18:31
coventry`Thanks, daftykins.  Yes, dualboot, optimally, though I'm happy to drop windows if need be.18:31
dadams_bummer18:31
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coventry`When I add a boot option for the live USB, what should I put when it asks me for a file path?18:32
daftykinscoventry`: again, you're going about this completely wrong18:32
InsaneRealityHi, is the bottom panel removed in Gnome 3.10?18:32
EL3PHANTENubotto18:32
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YokoBRhi guys, can anyone help me with ubuntu 14.04 + ispconfig3 ?18:33
EL3PHANTENubotto devices18:33
daftykinscoventry`: F12 boot menu, select "UEFI <my flash drive>" and it should boot in EFI mode fine18:33
daftykinsthen install from there18:33
cuddylierAnyone any idea why this bash script goes straight to the first nano command rather than sleeping at the start? http://pastie.org/private/12pahqlel2hjtur6l5baa18:33
coventry`daftykins: Thanks, I get it.18:33
cuddylierAnd when it goes to the nano command, it adds a ^M onto the end of the interfaces file name meaning it's trying to make a new file.18:34
daftykinscuddylier: ask in the bash channel18:34
cuddylieroh, didn't know there was one :O18:34
cuddylieroh goodie, thanks18:34
daftykins*gasp*18:34
daftykins:D18:34
EL3PHANTENubottu devices18:34
ubottuYou can find the full list of devices, official images, community images, and works in progress at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Devices18:34
daftykinsEL3PHANTEN: do that in a private message with the bot in future please18:36
EL3PHANTENokey thank you18:37
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InsaneRealityHello, can anyone tell me if the bottom panel removed from Gnome 3.10? And is there a way to get it back for notifications?18:41
mr0010110fixithellloooo????18:42
mr0010110fixitI have no idea what this is...just installed ubuntu studio 14.04 and this came on it...18:42
schmichaeleeee: it has something to do with apparmor! i uninstalled apparmor and suspend works again. sadly i need apparmor because docker requires it18:43
compdocmr0010110fixit, this?18:43
compdocIRC?18:44
daftykinsmr0010110fixit: it's for support questions18:44
mr0010110fixitWHAT!? THAT IS AMAZING!18:44
mr0010110fixitI have used linux for years (recently switched all of my comps to it) and never knew this amazing thing existed. Alright, I will be back if I need help.18:45
compdocpromise?18:45
mr0010110fixitPinky Promise!18:46
compdoclol18:46
mr0010110fixit:P18:46
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rlischerlinux > windows18:47
daftykinsrlischer: none of that childishness in here thanks18:48
GumaCan some one help me with bash script I am having problems with for some time. I can't figure out what is going on and why it is not working.18:48
ax562hello18:48
daftykinsGuma: ask in the bash channel18:48
MonkeyDustbrb18:48
pbxGuma, what daftykins said.  go #bash.  be armed with a pastebin link showing your script, and another showing what happens when you run it18:48
Gumaok Guys18:49
mr0010110fixitOkay I have a question, how do you see  a list of channels to ask specific questions. l18:49
compdocuse /list  but there are some channels that arent listed. the ones that start with ##18:50
rww!alis18:50
ubottualis is a services bot that can help you find channels. Read "/msg alis help list" . For more help or questions relating to alis, please join #freenode. Example usage: /msg alis list #ubuntu* or /msg alis list *http*18:50
rwwand /list 1) shows ## channels just fine, 2) is not a good idea unless your client can handle ridiculous amounts of output18:50
mr0010110fixitokay got alis working for me...so once I find a list how do I join it?18:52
rww/join #channelnamehere18:52
mr0010110fixitawesome, you guys are the bees knees18:52
compdocit doesnt show ## channels at all when I try it18:52
papahallo18:53
daftykinsmr0010110fixit: further questions in #freenode please18:53
mariachihey! How can I increase DPI in Ubuntu 14.04? everything looks so small (96dpi) in my new laptop. I tried googling it and only found the xrand --dpi method, which is doesn't change anything18:54
daftykinssystem settings -> monitors18:54
daftykins(or displays)18:54
daftykinsit's right there18:54
MK73DSBonjour, y a-t-il des français ici pour m'aider ?18:54
daftykins!fr18:54
ubottuNous sommes desoles mais ce canal est en anglais uniquement. Si vous avez besoin d'aide ou voulez discuter en français, veuillez taper /join #ubuntu-fr ou /join #ubuntu-qc. Merci.18:54
HikaruBGhi guys18:54
HikaruBGI have Ubuntu 14.04 and I have few issues, that I haven't been able to solve.18:55
fribi'm pretty sure my pc went into kernel panic when i tried to come back from hibernate -- what can i do?18:56
daftykinsHikaruBG: ok, how many guesses do we get? or could you perhaps describe them?18:56
mariachidaftykins, was that for me?18:56
HikaruBGis there a lno, sorry - I was pasting a log results for you at paste.ubuntu.com18:57
HikaruBG:)18:57
daftykinsmariachi: since it immediately came after, yep :)18:57
HikaruBGgo to18:57
HikaruBGhttp://paste.ubuntu.com/8047617/18:57
HikaruBGto see results from cat /var/log/syslog | grep error18:57
HikaruBG i have no idea how to solve it18:58
ThKoHi folks, short question. I’m trying to execute commands in php with exec() and user www-data…So one comand (cordova platform add android) doesn’t work because www-data hasn’t the access to it…Although security problems I’ve added www-data to sudoers, but same problem…Running the comand directly from comand line works well. Any hints?18:58
HikaruBGdaftykins, :)18:58
mariachidaftykins, I don't see anything there.. it has something about scaling, but none of the options change anything18:58
eeeeThKo: did you add the command in sudoers as NOPASSWD ?18:59
ThKoeeee: Yep, mom...18:59
HikaruBGdaftykins, every time I log-in I get bunch (at least 6-7) internal error windows and no description. the syslog shows what I have pasted on http://paste.ubuntu.com/8047617/18:59
ThKoeeee: www-data ALL=(ALL) NOPASSWD: ALL18:59
eeeemom ?18:59
HikaruBGcould you take a look and give me a suggestion?18:59
daftykinsHikaruBG: best to address the channel, not me18:59
eeeelol18:59
HikaruBGOK19:00
HikaruBG:)19:00
ThKoeeee: mom means „moment“ there’s the part ;D19:00
HikaruBGguys: http://paste.ubuntu.com/8047617/ is the problem. please take a look19:00
daftykinseeee: congrats on your new fully grown son19:00
eeeelol19:00
ThKoI know, vulnerability, but only for testing19:00
fribafter successfully applying this (http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2231813) fix, i have to run a python script and unload/reload a kernel module after every reboot. how can I make this fix permanent?? thanks :D19:01
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HikaruBGanyone on the issue, posted on http://paste.ubuntu.com/8047617/ ?19:09
fribcan anyone help with my hibernate problem? it goes into kernel panic when i try to wake19:09
HikaruBGI have Network Manager problem19:09
HikaruBGfrib, what does your syslog file says?19:10
fribwhere is that?19:10
HikaruBGcan you paste the result from  $ cat /var/log/syslog | grep error to http://paste.ubuntu.com ?19:11
HikaruBG:)19:11
fribhttp://paste.ubuntu.com/8047709/19:11
CodeGosui copyd parition with ubuntu with clonezilla, when i boot from it from other pc i get splash screen with fadeing in/out kubuntu label ininitly, ctrl-f1 trying to switch to console does nothing, in recovery mode it stops on resume: libgcrypt  version 1.5.019:12
SonikkuAmericaCodeGosu: it's Ctrl+Alt+F1.19:13
CodeGosuyeah19:13
TiagoTiagoHi19:14
TJ-CodeGosu: Press "escape" to dismiss the splash screen, but that will likely show you the same as the Recovery mode boot19:14
coventry`I'd like to install Ubuntu alongside a pre-existing windows 8 install.  On the "installation type" page, should I be seeing an "install alongside windows 8" option, or do I have to rearrange the partitions myself?  If I have to do it myself, are there any modern tutorials covering what ubuntu/windows needs?19:14
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TJ-CodeGosu: try booting with "debug text nomodeset single --debug --verbose" added to the end of the kernel command-line19:15
Kr_Dhow to setup the ip for wan?19:15
TiagoTiagoQuick question (I hope): I activated the NVIDIA driver, but that made my screen that is plugged on the on-board Intel graphics card is available anymore; how can I get both to work at the same time without sacrificing performance etc?19:15
MonkeyDustKr_D  your ISP gives it to you19:15
TiagoTiagonot available anymore*19:15
TiagoTiagogah19:16
TiagoTiagonot available anymore*19:16
Kr_D.19:16
TJ-TiagoTiago: I think you'll need the 'bumblebee' alka Optimus drivers19:16
TiagoTiagoAs you can tell I haven't been sleeping enough lately -__-19:16
fribcoventry`, chances are your windows installation occupies the entire hard disk, which means you would have to partition the disk which may cause problems for your windows installation depending on how it's done19:16
fribcoventry`, it may be easiest to just format, partition, install windows again, and finally install ubuntu19:17
TiagoTiagoHm, does that work at least as good as NVIDIA's own drivers? (for the screens plugged on the NVIDIA card, of course)19:17
TJ-TiagoTiago: Same here - i'm just leaving to make meal to wake myself up19:17
hans_i have a question have some one spotify running19:17
fribHikaruBG, did you happen to see the syslog file?19:17
hans_i can`t minimize him19:17
coventry`frib: Yes, it does occupy the whole disk.  It didn't come with windows install media, unfortunately.19:18
TJ-TiagoTiago: The Bumblebee is an nvidia/optimus interface for controlling both GPUs, although I don't know if it supports dual screen, not having gone near one :)19:18
bekkscoventry`: Does it come with a program to create recovery media?19:18
TiagoTiagoI actually got 3 screens, two on the NVIDIA card and one on the onboard Intel card19:18
coventry`bekks: I don't know... I think it's a stock windows install... I'll do some research.19:19
bekkscoventry`: Is it a laptop?19:20
HikaruBGfrib, yes, I have similar problem and just have asked about it19:20
HikaruBGas soon as I find the answer I will let you know.19:20
TiagoTiagoIs the generic driver that Ubuntu starts with still underperforming or having compatibility issues etc? Cause if it's just as good now I could switch back, it was loading all screens without issues (I haven't tried anything requiring hardware acceleration yet though)19:20
GalaxorOkay, so I just got upgraded from 12.04 to 14.04.  My unity dash shows grooveshark and soundcloud results even after I set "Include online search results" to "OFF" in settings -> Security & Privacy -> Search.19:20
HikaruBGI am confident now that this is common problem, not something that I did19:20
fribHikaruBG, the networking problem or the hibernation problem?19:20
GalaxorDo I have to completely uninstall the unity music lens or something?19:20
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graingertis it possible to have groups as members of other groups in Unix?19:21
TiagoTiagoI do got both NVIDIA screens working with the NVIDIA driver, but not the Intel one. That Bumblebee driver will work for both, and provide all features and performance at least for the NVIDIA screens?19:22
HikaruBGfrib, I also can not hybernate, and my syslog looks similar19:22
HikaruBGfrib, I would assume that these two problems are linkes19:22
fribHikaruBG, did you prepare the swap partition and all that?19:22
HikaruBGlinked*19:23
HikaruBGyep - I run only Ubuntu on this machine19:23
HikaruBGI have root partition, swap partition and home partition19:23
fribHikaruBG, can you not hibernate at all or you just can't resume?19:23
dino82graingert: Look up 'nested groups'19:23
TiagoTiagoAnd this is not a laptop, does that matter?19:23
HikaruBGall this on SSD and runs fast like a dream, just the hibernate problem and the error messages are annoying19:24
daftykinsTiagoTiago: bumblebee is only for laptops with optimus tech, hopefully someone isn't misleading you if this is a desktop19:24
HikaruBGI can't resume19:24
fribHikaruBG, you get kernel panic?19:24
graingertdino82: google says no19:24
graingertdino82: I just failed an interview where the interviewer was of the opposite impression19:24
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HikaruBGfrib, I don't. I get my system to reboot every time I want to resume.19:24
braindrophello, can someone help me with mdadm? I use it for my RAID config and just set up a new system to be a backup but it only has the Personalities : [raid6] [raid5] [raid4]19:24
braindropI need the linear personality to make use of some different sized disks19:25
fribHikaruBG, when you try to resume, you get a reboot?19:25
HikaruBGmeaning - I close the laptop lid. And when I open it - I get the system to boot from the beginning, instead showing the Log In screen19:25
coventry`bekks: Yes, it is.19:25
HikaruBGfrib, exactly19:25
dino82Was the question specifically linux user/groups or linux accessible user/groups (LDAP/active directory)19:25
fribhave you checked your power settings for laptop-lid closing etc?19:25
braindroprunning Ubuntu 14.04 server, which I'm also running on my main server, and that one has Personalities : [linear] [multipath] [raid0] [raid1] [raid6] [raid5] [raid4] [raid10]19:25
guntbertgraingert: strange, I'd say "no" too - but this is off topic here - if you want, visit #ubuntu-offtopic19:26
HikaruBGfrib, yes - i have - It has to go to Suspend, not power off19:26
graingertguntbert: re groups?19:26
TiagoTiagoFrom the description on the software center it sounds like Bumblebee will not do any acceleration on the Intel card if I understood it right; doesn't sound like an ideal solution. There is support for hardware acceleration for onboard cards, isn't there?19:26
graingertguntbert: I'm not interested in discussing the interview.19:26
fribi see. well our problems are not really the same though19:26
guntbertgraingert: ok, so I misinterpreted, sorry19:27
HikaruBGwell - according to the syslog file we have the same error messages, regarding the Network Manager.19:27
HikaruBGand that is the ONLY error message I get in the syslog19:27
fribHikaruBG, yes but NWM has nothing to do with hibernations afaik19:27
HikaruBGsooo - I would like to fix it and see what happens19:27
HikaruBGhibernation might have to do with NVIDIA drivers as well19:28
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fribHikaruBG, yes19:28
HikaruBGbut i get no error log for that19:28
HikaruBGonly for the NWM19:28
HikaruBGand if ANYONE can tall me how to fix it... I would appreciate it! GUYS?!? :) http://paste.ubuntu.com/8047617/19:28
HikaruBGcheck it out please19:28
guntbertHikaruBG: please don't press <enter> so often, you scroll the channel even faster19:29
HikaruBGguntbert, OK19:31
sh4tra question about ATi GPU with dpm=1, this is a part of dmesg http://pastebin.com/m7gG0pHS showing available frequencies, 50k 60k 1000 is 'balanced' and works ok but 'battery' makes the screen water like because the frequency is not 50k but 12500, there is a 30k option, do you have any idea how to meke 'battery' dpm mode use 30k instead of 12500 ??19:32
Exagone313SchrodingersScat: same problem if i copy files :s19:33
SchrodingersScatExagone313: ugh, that's not good19:34
SchrodingersScatExagone313: guess you could try removing the drive, try to get it in a different machine, not sure what would help you out.  good luck19:34
TiagoTiagoDoes the Nouveou driver provides at least as much performance and compatibility as the NVIDIA proprietary driver? 'Cause that was loading all 3 displays, including the Intel one.19:35
TiagoTiagoNouveau*19:36
graingertguntbert: 100% sure it's not possible. Because it would be cool if it were possible19:37
graingert?19:37
guntbertgraingert: discussing if it were cool is off-topic here :-)19:40
ThKoIf I’ve installed something by apt-get install…in this case apache ant, where is it located? Because I’ve to add the path into bashrc19:40
ThKoThank oyu19:40
graingertguntbert: :.19:40
SonikkuAmericaThKo: It's probably in /var/cache/apt/archives/19:41
graingertThKo: don't do that19:41
graingertThKo: leave your path alone19:41
ThKograingert: hmm also added android pathes into it19:41
graingertSonikkuAmerica: I think ThKo means where is the binary19:41
graingertThKo: oh dea19:41
ThKograingert: export PATH=${PATH}:~/android-sdk-linux/tools somethimg like this19:42
graingertThKo: leave your PATH alone unless you know the consequences. Are you sure there's no packages and deliver the android SDK to the correct directories?19:42
ThKograingert: I’m sure…Sorry :(19:42
TiagoTiagobrb19:43
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ThKograingert: And at the moment by creating something with cordova I get an error which indicates that I’ve not set the ANT path variable19:44
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TJ-ThKo: To find an exectuable's location do "which <executable_name>" e.g. "which ant". To find out where all files of a package are installed do "dpkg -L <package_name>" e.g. "dpkg -L ant"19:47
TiagoTiagoback19:48
TiagoTiagogonna give this a try: https://01.org/linuxgraphics/downloads19:48
* TiagoTiago sighs19:49
TiagoTiagoNo difference, at least that I can see :(19:50
ThKoTJ-:  I’ll try, thank you19:50
daftykinsTiagoTiago: backup first19:50
TiagoTiagoIt's a fresh install, nothing to backup19:50
martin1989hi people19:51
daftykinsthen it'll be very quick19:51
martin1989does any of you use xchat?19:51
TiagoTiagoGonna try rebooting see if it sees the Intel display again... brb19:51
martin1989hi?19:52
daftykinsmartin1989: just ask the question19:52
martin1989i want xchat starts minimized19:52
martin1989is it possible?19:52
daftykinslook in the options, if it's not there... pass.19:53
martin1989i checked there19:53
pbxmartin1989, ask in #xchat19:53
martin1989i did19:53
pbxi bet the answer is no19:54
martin1989but that channel seems dead19:54
SonikkuAmericapbx: The answer's yes19:54
martin1989yeah.. i thoght so19:54
daftykinsyou must exercise patience on IRC19:54
eeeemartin1989: man xchat , there's a start minimized19:54
pbxSonikkuAmerica, excellent, martin1989 needs your help19:54
SonikkuAmericamartin1989: [ xchat --minimize=1 ]19:54
eeeemartin1989:  ^^19:54
pbxwow, that's twice in one week i've been wrong19:54
martin1989???19:54
martin1989i dont get it19:54
CodeGosucan i be an issue if had system on sata drive and now trying to run cloned partion from usb?19:55
eeeemartin1989: it's a terminal command19:55
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daftykinspbx: only twice? :D19:55
eeeemartin1989: you'll want to " xchat --minimize=1 & " to background it19:55
CodeGosualso can it be an issue if i had nvidia gpu with prorietary driver on first machine and running integrated gpu on machine i cloned partition to19:56
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TiagoTiagoOh, it just installed a installer *facepalms*19:56
TiagoTiagorunning it now...19:56
TiagoTiagoan*19:57
SonikkuAmericamartin1989: And then hit ^D to drop the terminal window19:57
desmotto¯`·.¸¸.·´¯`·.¸¸.->¯`·.¸¸.·´¯`·.¸  Hi  #ubuntu  ¯`·.¸¸.·´¯`·->¯`·.¸¸.·´¯`·.¸¸.->19:58
desmottohi19:58
TiagoTiagoWhile it's installing, does anyone know if the Intel drivers will play along nice with NVIDIA's?19:58
SonikkuAmericaTiagoTiago: Optimus?19:59
k1lTiagoTiago: you need special hybrid drivers for hybrid intel/nvidia cards19:59
TiagoTiagoNo, desktop19:59
TiagoTiagoonboard Intel card and addon NVIDIA card19:59
martin1989all right19:59
martin1989so i put in terminal ¨xchat --minimize=1¨20:00
martin1989and hit enter20:00
martin1989that´s it?20:00
eeeemartin1989: add & at the end if you want to use the terminal for something else, or close it20:00
SonikkuAmericamartin1989: Although now you want to hit ^Z, then [ bg ], hit ENTER, and ^D20:01
SonikkuAmerica(^ == Ctrl)20:01
martin1989and what´s that for?20:01
eeeeit'll background it and you can close the terminal20:01
SonikkuAmericaRight. But hitting the Close button will still kill the process, use ^D instead.20:02
daftykinsor just run it right in the first place?20:02
eeeeSonikkuAmerica: if he types exit it wont20:02
daftykinssuch bad advice at times.20:02
SonikkuAmericaeeee: Bull20:03
eeeegive it a shot20:03
eeee;)20:03
TiagoTiagoneed to reboot, brb20:03
martin1989all right20:03
SonikkuAmericaeeee: Oh I guess you're right, using [ exit ] works too but ^D is faster20:03
SonikkuAmericaeeee: It just sends the terminal an EOF20:03
martin1989so i did ¨xchat --minimize=1&¨ this time20:03
SonikkuAmerica[ xchat --minimize=1 & ] (mind the space between "1" and "&")20:04
martin1989sorry people i dont usually use commands20:04
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martin1989it is hard for me20:04
martin1989ok20:04
martin1989i did again20:04
SonikkuAmericaIf you want you can dump a shortcut on your desktop with that command ( [ xchat --minimize=1 ] ) as well20:04
martin1989now xchat should open minimized shouldnt it?20:05
Bratishkahow i can install skype20:05
SonikkuAmericaBratishka: It's in the Ubuntu Software Center20:05
SonikkuAmerica(And the Lubuntu Software Center by extension)20:05
martin1989from the app center braishka20:05
Bratishkahow i can install java20:05
Bratishkathnx bro20:05
martin1989also ubuntu center20:05
Bratishkai need command in terminal for java plesase20:06
Bratishkaplease20:06
ikoniaBratishka: what do you want to do ?20:06
martin1989¨sudo apt-get update¨ and then ¨sudo apt-get install skype¨ in terminal should work20:07
martin1989right people?20:07
ikoniamartin1989: depends if you have the right repos20:07
Bratishkathnx bro20:07
k1lif partner repo is enabled, yes20:07
k1l!skype20:07
ubottuTo install Skype on Ubuntu, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Skype - To record on Skype, check: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SkypeRecordingHowto - Please use open protocols instead if you can, see !Ekiga20:07
capncrunch4mewhat would be the proper way of gathering some support to increase the importance of bug #131760220:07
ubottubug 1317602 in linux (Ubuntu) "package linux-image-3.13.0-24-generic 3.13.0-24.46 failed to install/upgrade: subprocess new pre-installation script returned error exit status 1" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/131760220:07
capncrunch4meit basically means Trusty cannot be pxe installed20:08
martin1989oh right!20:08
martin1989you can also download the .deb file from www.skype.com20:08
SupaYoshiHi20:08
capncrunch4meand effectively rules out Trusty for large scale deployments as it currently stands20:08
martin1989double click on that file and will take you to the softawre center automatically20:08
martin1989very easy20:08
SupaYoshiI have a question, I have 2 UBUNTU boxes, 1 is server (SMB server) and 1 is client.20:08
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Bratishkathnx bro for help20:09
SupaYoshiNow I can mount the share, however I can write, but everything is written as group owner 101220:09
SupaYoshiI cant find what this means, and I cant delete files or rename owned by group 101220:09
ikoniaSupaYoshi: it means your uid's are different between the servers20:09
SupaYoshicorrect20:10
SupaYoshiDo they need to be the same?20:10
ikoniaSupaYoshi: up to you20:10
SupaYoshiWEll20:10
SupaYoshimy goal is to make it able to delete20:10
SupaYoshiOn the client.20:10
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SupaYoshiI have this as the config for the SMB share.20:10
martin1989xchat still doesnt start minimized20:10
ikoniadon't paste your config20:10
eeeemartin1989: did you click on the skip network list on startup?20:11
SupaYoshihttp://paste.ubuntu.com/8048088/20:11
martin1989yes20:11
SupaYoshiikanobori, I wont paste here lol :P20:11
eeeeand you typed xchat --minimize=1 & , in the terminal ?20:11
ikoniaSupaYoshi: what do you actually want from us ?20:11
martin1989yes20:11
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SupaYoshiI would like to know, why I cant delete the files on the client.20:11
SupaYoshilol.20:11
ikoniaSupaYoshi: beause you are not the uid/gid that owns the file20:11
SupaYoshiah.20:12
SupaYoshiWell the logged in user to the share, is part of the group that owns them.20:12
SupaYoshiBut this group might be unknown on the client?20:12
ikoniaSupaYoshi: beause you are not the uid/gid that owns the file20:12
SupaYoshibecause on the server the group name shows up correctly.20:12
SupaYoshiuid = user?20:12
ikoniaSupaYoshi: correct because the client knows nothing about it20:12
SupaYoshiOkay, good.20:13
SupaYoshiSo, ikonia, what do I have to do to fix this?20:13
sheaphow would I set the $TERM env variable so that /usr/bin/dialog highlights and displays correctly?20:13
SupaYoshiI thought by logging in to the server, with the correct credentials.20:13
SupaYoshiI would be able to write as that user the server knows.20:13
ikoniasheap: why do you think the term type is wrong20:13
sheapikonia: the menu displays and everything but when I use the keys instead of highlighting or ticking the boxes it shows "^[[A" or something depending on the keystroke20:14
ikoniasheap: why is that the TERM variable ?20:14
SupaYoshiikanobori, do the uid on both client and server need to be the same?20:14
sheapikonia: I dunno, just thought that might have something to do with it20:14
ikoniasheap: no20:14
ikoniasheap: sorry, that was for SupaYoshi20:15
sheapikonia: any idea?20:15
ikoniaSupaYoshi: "no"20:15
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sheapthe menu is run before the user logs in, and that's when the keystrokes show up as "^[[A" etc... but when I login and run the menu manually it works and displays as it should20:15
SupaYoshik20:16
Cody__herro everybody20:22
SchrodingersScatherro der20:23
Cody__I see there are 1600+ people on....where are they?20:24
Cody__karol don't you leave me20:25
ObrienDavesleeping20:25
ikoniaCody__: it's not a social channel, so people will respond when you explain what you need from them20:25
SchrodingersScat!ot | Cody__ , all over the woooorrrrld.  we need to get a guy in space station..20:26
ubottuCody__ , all over the woooorrrrld.  we need to get a guy in space station..: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!20:26
Cody__o I see. Thank you20:26
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blzHello, I've installed xubuntu 14.04 on a laptop.  The mouse and trackpad work perfectly in a live environment, but do *not* work once the OS has been installed.  What gives?20:31
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ObrienDaveblz, what brand of trackpad/mouse?20:34
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blzObrien, built-in touchpad and standard dell USB optical mouse20:34
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blzObrienDave, nothing outlandish.  Strangely, regular Ubuntu doesn't have these issues20:34
blzObrienDave, seems to be Xubuntu-specific20:35
blzObrienDave, maybe I'll try installing the xubuntu-desktop package on top of ubuntu server or something...20:35
ObrienDavewait, what? you never said anything about server20:36
ObrienDave!details20:36
ubottuPlease elaborate; your question or issue may not seem clear or detailed enough for people to help you. Please give more detailed information, errors, steps, and possibly configuration files (use the !pastebin to avoid flooding the channel)20:36
blzObrienDave, re-read what I said ;)20:36
blzObrienDave, I'm considering installing xubuntu-desktop on top of ubuntu server as a fix20:36
blzObrienDave, this is stock xubuntu right now20:37
ObrienDave<blz> Hello, I've installed xubuntu 14.04 on a laptop.  The mouse and trackpad work perfectly in a live environment, but do *not* work once the OS has been installed.  What gives?20:37
blzObrienDave, right. stock xubuntu.20:37
blzObrienDave, I'm **considering** installing xubuntu-desktop on top of ubuntu server as a fix  [emphasis added]20:37
aguitel i need to add some sentence in the kernel and then boot with it ,how to do it20:38
pbxaguitel, what do you mean by "add some sentence in the kernel"20:39
blzaguitel, are you talking about grub boot options?20:39
Beldarblz, You are here for help, if the helper feels you have not been clear responding with an attitude is not going to generate help from them or anyone.20:39
blzBeldar, what attitude?  I'm clarifying by pointing out where he misunderstood20:39
Eco2876I have this bug : https://code.google.com/p/winetricks/issues/detail?id=341 where do I find the winetricks.sh file????20:40
Beldarblz, You were not clear that is all.20:40
blzBeldar, and clarifying that my original question stands. This is stock xubuntu.20:40
Exagone313SchrodingersScat: the comouter shut down wthout doing anything, he is like gone i think20:40
blzThe bit about server was something I was **considering** doing as a fix, that's all20:40
Exagone313computer*20:40
Kr_Dhello~everybody~20:40
blzAgain, for clarity:  this is a stock xubuntu install.20:40
netlarhi20:41
Kr_D.20:41
Kr_DUS?20:41
aguitelpbx: blz i have no touchpad working in my laptop and need this:Boot with psmouse.proto=bare on the kernel commandline to make it work (in mouse emulation mode).20:41
Kr_DZH?20:41
Kr_D我能说中文吗20:41
k1l!cn20:41
ubottu如欲獲得中文的協助,請輸入 /join #ubuntu-cn 或 /join #ubuntu-tw20:41
blzaguitel, does your touchpad work in a live environment?20:41
blze.g. when booting from a livecd?20:42
aguitelblz: no20:42
awlodge/wc20:42
blzaguitel, hmm see mine *does* ... which is strange...20:42
aguitelblz: this bug:https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=111001120:42
ubottubugzilla.redhat.com bug 1110011 in kernel "ASUS X550 Touchpad not working and interferes with mouse" [Unspecified,New]20:42
SchrodingersScatExagone313: sounds like it.  can still try it on another machine maybe, would be a good time to have an external enclosure laying around.20:43
blzI think it might be something specific to the xubuntu installer because it doesn't happen with any other flavor20:43
Exagone313it's a portable20:43
aguitelblz: asus X550LA20:43
timhansengood afternoon, all20:43
Exagone313i can't access to hard drives20:43
SchrodingersScatExagone313: and the computer was shutting down??20:43
blzaguitel, hmm nope this doesn't quite seem like the same problem20:44
SchrodingersScatExagone313: so this is already an external drive?20:44
blzthis is a sys76 computer... so a Compal based machine20:44
timhanseni'm running ubuntu on a laptop with persistence. how can i install a new kernel for the live installation to boot? i've tried just downloading a new kernel and installing it with dpkg, but that borked everything..20:44
blzaguitel, and the mouse works *perfectly* in a live environment, but then never does *anything* once I boot from an installed OS20:44
SchrodingersScatblz: have you checked their forums/contact/whatever?20:44
Exagone313sorry bad english it's a laptop20:44
blzSchrodingersScat, yeah... no such luck =/20:44
aguitelblz: external mouse work20:45
blznope!20:45
Exagone313i had just a live usb on desktop and it shut down20:45
blzaguitel, touchpad and mouse both work under live environment and both stop working once the OS is installed to disk20:45
blzstrange, isn't it?20:45
SchrodingersScatExagone313: ah, well, they make enclosures for those too, up to you on how much effort you want to spend.20:45
aguitelblz: in this laptop not20:46
blz?20:46
Exagone313i wanted to copy files, install cubuntu for testing and get it for holliday20:46
SchrodingersScatblz: i thought that was the entire reason for getting a sys7620:46
blzSchrodingersScat, as did I...20:46
blzSchrodingersScat, granted this is an older model, but still20:46
Beldartimhansen, Adding a kernel to a live is not really a workable situation, it s reading the iso to begin with.20:47
Beldaris*20:47
Beldartimhansen, What is the actual boot issue?20:48
blzSchrodingersScat, it's one of these guys:  http://www.avadirect.com/custom-laptop-configurator.asp?PRID=1044620:48
timhansenBeldar, yea, that's what i feared. i just don't have a second flash drive or a CD that i can use to install ubuntu directly to the flash drive20:48
timhansentrying another solution to see if it will resolve the issue20:49
Beldartimhansen, No linux installs on that computer or another, you can boot the iso with grub.20:49
paul_grozavHello, I have a USB stick provinding a Mobile Broadband internet connection, and I get this (http://pastebin.com/iy0ZLgvd) error while I try to use my wlan0 card as a hotspot. Can someone help me with this? Thanks20:51
OerHeks!ics20:52
ubottuIf you want to share the internet connection of your Ubuntu machine with other machines in the network see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Internet/ConnectionSharing20:52
noobergoober..20:52
TiagoTiagoYeah, that didn't work; nothing would happen after I tried logging in. Had to reinstall (there might be some other way to fix it, but I'm too tired to do more research right now and there wasn't much to lose with a resintall)20:53
Kacohello20:53
OerHekspaul_grozav, i think only WEP encryption is possible, correct me if i am wrong20:53
TiagoTiagoFor now imma leave just the NVIDIA displays working and come back to this some other day20:53
TiagoTiagohttp://www.linuxadvocates.com/2013/03/making-nvidia-and-intel-play-nice.html <- seems promising, but like I said, I'll come back to this issue some other day20:55
jhutchinspaul_grozav: What distribution are you using?20:56
faccia80hello guys and girls20:57
mirakhello20:57
mirakis a way to qui quickly install ubuntu with a premade system ?20:57
faccia80hehe oh nice thats my first time in a irc chat20:57
paul_grozavjhutchins: I'm using debian. I'm not sure What error I'm having, that is why I pasted the things from the log20:57
miraklike extracting the content of a live cd20:57
daftykinsfaccia80: first lesson, this is a support only channel. chat in #ubuntu-offtopic20:58
mirakor a premade system image20:58
Kr_DOur country is very miserable, Google are not open20:58
awesomeisgnuHi when I learn how to use UNIX terminal apps, am I subsequently learning bash?20:58
SchrodingersScatmirak: dd?20:59
mirakis there a way to get already made base image that can be made with debootstrap available on somme repository ?21:00
zzigyHi. I just installed Ubuntu in my PC on a new partition. But now my computer boots up Ubuntu by default. How can I make it so that it boots Windows by default?21:00
mirakSchrodingersScat: more like an image that already contain what debootstrap does21:00
Kr_Dyou cat use "up dow left ...|" stop the scree... when you see the txt...21:01
awesomeisgnuzzigy:21:02
awesomeisgnuhttp://itsfoss.com/windows-default-os-dual-boot-ubuntu-1304-easy/21:02
zzigyawesomeisgnu tyvm21:02
SchrodingersScatmirak: I was thinking of you installing on the system, making a drive image with dd, then using that to mirror it on to the rest.  not sure if you would have to change things like fstab...21:02
k1lzzigy: set the windows entry as default in the grub config21:02
TiagoTiagoanyway, I'm heading off, cya21:02
c2tarunHi friends, I purchased Lenovo Thinkpad L540 yesterday. It came with windows 7 pro. If I install ubuntu on it, is it going to void its warranty?21:02
mirakSchrodingersScat: i have a dual boot, i just want to install a new system on another partition21:03
k1lc2tarun: no21:03
DJoneslogout21:03
miraka newer ubuntu21:03
c2tarunthanks k1l21:03
mirakmine is raring, i don't want to upgrade straight to trusty21:03
popeymirak: why not?21:04
k1lraring is way out of support time frame. you really need to make a upgrade plan21:04
Eco2876is there a wine irc channel?21:04
mirakpopey: because it skeeps one distro, and I am not sure if that's ok21:04
k1l!wine | Eco287621:04
ubottuEco2876: WINE is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux - More information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine - Search the !AppDB for application compatibility ratings - Join #winehq for application help - See !virtualizers for running Windows (or another OS) inside Ubuntu21:04
popeymirak: it is okay21:05
popeymirak: we explicitly recommend going from those releases to trusty21:05
mirakpopey: but i will need to backup my current system anyway21:05
popeyindeed!21:05
mirakpopey: why ?21:05
popeywhy what?21:05
Kr_DSee you chat very tired, I don't understand21:05
Kr_Dmbr21:06
Kr_DMBR will cover21:07
k1lKr_D: please keep this channel clear for technical ubuntu support. thanks21:07
Kr_Dsorry21:08
jhutchinsmirak: In case something goes wrong.21:08
TiagoTiagoHm, wait, GParted isn't installed by default or is something wrong on my install?21:09
popeyTiagoTiago: it isn't pre-installed these days, no, its on the live cd, but is removed post-install I think21:09
OerHeksTiagoTiago, gparted is not standard anymore indeed21:09
TiagoTiagoWhat is the "standard" way of managing partitions now?21:10
popeyinstall gparted ☻21:10
OerHeksparted ( no gui)  is available21:10
Beldardisks "confusing"21:11
DVA5912_Good Afternoon Guys and Gals :) I need some best practice advice. Im rebuilding my htpc server from barebones and i need some help on the drive configurations. I have 2x 500 GB, a 630 and a 2T, In the past ive dedicated one hard drive (1x 500Gb) to the OS system. and attampted to RAID0 the other systems. Im looking at some documentation and i see this LVM which looks to be almost sake the name like RAID0 but easier. I know im goin21:15
TiagoTiagohm, alright, installing gparted then21:15
jhutchinsDVA5912_: Generally not good practice to RAID dissimilar drives.21:16
jhutchinsDVA5912_: It can be done but it's not recommended.21:16
bekksDVA5912_: Basically, RAID0 and RAID1 are the most easy RAID setups. You could use LVM to create a JBOD as well, which I'd recommend - assuming you have a backup.21:16
DVA5912_jhutchins understandable. and thats not what im going to be doing here as im moving away from the RAID stuff21:16
TiagoTiagoI'm really heading off now, cya21:17
TiagoTiagothanx for everything21:17
jhutchinsDVA5912_: I don't generally like the idea of spanned volumes except with dedicated controlers and striped data.21:17
jhutchinsDVA5912_: It's my understanding that you could span the disks with LVM, but I would find a way to make them seperate partitions and store your data accordingly.21:18
texlaUbuntu-14.04..I just updated using update manager..When I open synaptic it shows ten (10) entries that are installed up gradable ???21:20
Beldartexla, Any held packages in the update manager, and a popup of a partial upgrade?21:21
texlaBeldar, nope all clean21:21
Beldartexla, sometimes a upgrade generates other updates, can you detail more?21:22
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texlaBeldar, I got a notice that I had updates available..after finishing updating I went to synaptic and found 10 packages that were ready for upgrade21:25
Beldartexla, Is english your native language?21:25
Beldartexla, Detail more meant what are the upgradeable now, if not clear.21:26
Beldartexla, Run the update in synaptic and see if still there21:28
Beldartexla, If I run a apt-get and the update manager has opened, it is not cleaned without another update, I think this is the same issue you are noticing.21:30
adanteso i just installed ubuntu21:33
adantemy system doesn't boot - gets past bios, then i get a _ on second/third line of screen and freezes21:34
adantedoesn't seem to be hard freeze as keyboard lights still toggle21:34
adantehow do i diagnose this?21:34
Kacogrub cannot find kernel?21:35
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KacoI mean it can't detect the disk where the kernel is stored...21:36
ObrienDave!nomodeset | adante21:36
ubottuadante: A common kernel (boot)parameter is nomodeset, which is needed for some graphic cards that otherwise boot into a black screen or show corrupted splash screen. See http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1613132 on how to use this parameter21:36
Kaco(wild guess)21:36
bluetower#ubuntu21:36
tekkentuxHello is there a channel for developers? I'm trying to compile a gtkmm program and get strange errors, but I don't think it's a gtkmm question, but more about the version of the lib, oder the g++ version it was compiled with, or any other strange system configuration, because on debian testing, it compiles fine21:37
bluetowerhello ok so I just installed ubuntu 14.04, just installed xfce. and when I open up terminal I do not see a command prompt or any wording period.21:37
tekkentuxWhere can I get help on this?21:38
adanteObrienDave: i can't even get into grub21:38
adanteObrienDave: when it says press shift key after bios, do i need to keep tapping it or hold it down? i've tried both but never seem to bypass the _21:38
Beldaradante, start tapping shift during the biios flash.21:39
TJ-adante: If you see "_" that means there is no boot-strap code in the Master Boot Record21:39
williefAnybody had problems installing 14.04.1 server from USB?  Three different downloads of the iso all fail saying the firewire drivers files are corrupt and the base system will not load21:40
TJ-adante: I take it you see the flashing "_" top-left ?21:40
ophukDoes anybody know how I could use ssh to send a command to a remote box, put said command in the background with all output to a file and get back the PID to the local computer? The last part is actually what I need help with. Here is what I have so far,  ssh root@172.16.103.90 "dstat -cdngyrml -D sdc,total &> xp_test_$i_gigabit.log &"21:40
williefYes I checked the md5sum21:40
TJ-willief: Have you run a thorough 'memtest' on that system to determine if there is a flaky RAM module?21:41
adanteTJ-: that's correct21:41
secondhello. which of these entries do i boot into? http://imgur.com/0y2vyC2 ty!21:41
SchrodingersScatophuk: when you background something, i think it's caught with $! , so you could maybe catch it by ending the line, &> ; variable="$!" ; echo "$variable" ##????21:41
williefTJ-: no I havent, will do now  - thanks21:42
SchrodingersScatophuk: *the pid is caught with $!21:42
TJ-adante: That suggests during installation the boot-loader was either not installed, or more likely, installed to the wrong device (another mass-storage device connected at the same time, most likely)21:42
adanteTJ-: i just went with standard 14.04 install (setup my partitions for me, use lvm) - are there known issues with this?21:42
williefthough that hardware has worked well with Win7 for over a year21:42
ophukI've tried echoing $!...well not that exactly so I will but I am trying to catch in it file or something21:42
adanteTJ-: it's a 120gb ssd (from memory seems to detect as last device - /dev/sdd) with 3x1.5 tb mechanical drives (they were 'earlier' devices eg /dev/sda)21:43
TJ-adante: Do you have more than one mass storage device, such as an external disk caddy, or other USB flash devices, and were they connected21:43
adanteTJ-: (i was trying to install to the ssd)21:43
secondhello. Can anybody tell me which of these i should select to boot Ubuntu? http://imgur.com/0y2vyC221:43
TJ-adante: OK, then I'm guessing that maybe you need to alter the boot order of the drives to find the drive that has the GRUB boot-strap code in sector 0 ;)21:44
adanteTJ-: i'm happy to unplug the 3x mechanical drives and reinstall ubuntu - but is this just going to screw up once i plug the mechanical drives in?21:44
TJ-adante: You don't need to reinstall - just figure out and ensure that BIOS loads the boot sector from the drive it is installed on... changing the boot order (manually or in the saved setup) allows you to do that.21:45
adanteTJ-: thanks i'll give that a go21:45
ophukSchrodingersScat: it just reprints the variable name:/21:45
adanteTJ-: (obviously once i get this booting - there is a longer term solution to this right? i mean, i was assuming ubuntu was going to install a boot sector to my ssd, which i had selected as the install drive, and not whatever it arbitrarily selected)21:45
TJ-adante: Once you've identified the device with the MBR, you may still get a grub rescue> prompt, in which case a little hacking may be required to get Linux started so you can fix it permanently21:46
ZackDossecond: Which one do you need?21:46
Beldaradante, There is a script you can run to identify what is in each mbr.21:46
secondhello. i see restart is no longer button in Ubuntu. what is command to restart please?21:47
TJ-adante: there's an additional boot-loader installation location option which defaults to the first device unless that device is the installation media.21:47
parishi folks! I have a question about mint 17. How to make a woobie window in it.21:47
Beldarsecond, I thnk you have to hit the shift or another key on the top right button to see it.21:48
bazhangparis, ask mint support21:48
adanteTJ-: success! thank you!21:48
TJ-adante: OK... was it simply the boot order is wrong, or is the boot sector on another device?21:48
bazhang!mintsupport | paris21:48
ubottuparis: Linux Mint is not a supported derivative of Ubuntu. Please seek support in #linuxmint-help on irc.spotchat.org21:48
OerHeksparis, sounds like a compiz plugin, not sure mint supports that21:49
reagaanyone know of a system monitor program that can visually show me the curent % usage each CPU core has?21:49
reagafor ubuntu21:49
ophukSchrodingersScat: you have to escape the $! so this works21:49
secondBeldar, any more info you can give?21:49
adanteTJ-: boot sector is on another device - i changed it to boot off one of the mechanicals first and it booted21:49
bazhangreaga, what about conky21:49
ophukSchrodingersScat:  ssh root@172.16.103.90 "dstat -cdngyrml -D sdc,total &> xp_test_$i_gigabit.log & echo \$!"21:49
adanteBeldar: out of curiousity what's the script called (for future reference)21:49
TJ-adante: OK... once Ubuntu has booted you can re-install to the correct device... get to a terminal shell and I'll guide you through that process21:50
k1lreaga: htop?21:50
OerHekssecond, reboot button option is removes, press shutdown, the next dialog gives you the choise shutdown/reboot21:50
SchrodingersScatophuk: that appears to be all one line to me, maybe you want #bash21:50
Beldarsecond, Hold down the mouse on that top right off button amd tap shift and a few others till the reboot shows.21:50
OerHeksremoved*21:50
|PuNKCaT|Can someone tell me if I can check the state of my hard drive? (I'm on another computer right now) my desktop failed and update, and on reboot now will only show the wallpaper and none of the gui in gui mode, and when I tried startx in tty1 it told me I had errors on sda21:50
Beldarsecond, What desktop and release is this?21:50
secondxubuntu xfce21:50
parisI am immensely thankful for your inside, but is it that Mint is based on Ubuntu?21:51
adanteTJ-: ok i have a term up21:51
Beldarsecond, Not sure with xubuntu, This was on the unity desktop.21:51
secondokay ty :), to you both21:51
ophukSchrodingersScat: it is one line. It didn't like the ; to differentiate lines21:51
adanteum is there a command line way to disable hardware video acceleration? my machine is not very grunty and the display is running like a dog21:51
bazhangparis, it's not supported here, check their support channel21:51
k1lparis: just ask the mint specialists since mint handles some things different than ubuntu21:52
parisBing thanks!21:52
ShredderHello21:52
TJ-adante: First let's identify which device name the SSD has (/dev/sdX): "ls -l /dev/disk/by-id/ata*"21:52
ShadowWazzz up21:52
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ShredderThis is awesome!21:52
SchrodingersScatophuk: hmm, right, guess that makes sense with the ssh, does && have a different effect?  after that i'm out of ideas21:52
TJ-adante: If I've got that correct you should a list of the ATA drives in the system, and their partitions, with symbolic links to the actual device name21:52
Guest20845Wazzz Up21:53
TJ-adante: hopefully you know which is the SSD and can tell me the device name associated with it21:53
BeldarGuest20845, This is support chat is in #ubuntu-offtopic21:53
adanteTJ-: yeah looks like sdd21:53
anew2how can i install the windows version of firefox on ubuntu with wine21:53
TJ-adante: OK... "sudo grub-install /dev/sdd"21:54
ophukSchrodingersScat: no command I posted earlier works, sorry I must not of specified that. I was telling you so you would know for next time21:54
k1lanew2: that makes no sense at all21:54
TJ-adante: Then "sudo update-grub"21:54
anew2k1l, why?21:54
Beldaranew2, That makes no sense, why, it is the same basically.21:54
anew2i need the windows version21:54
TJ-adante: Now reboot, set the boot order so the SSD is first, and try it :)21:54
k1lanew2: why do you want it? there is a native firefox version for ubuntu21:54
guntbertanew2: why?21:55
bazhang!appdb | anew221:55
ubottuanew2: The Wine Application DB is a database of applications and help for !Windows programs that run under !WINE: http://appdb.winehq.org - Join #winehq for application help21:55
SchrodingersScatophuk: ohh, ok, great then.  yeah, i see now I missed the line where you exclaim that you got it to work.  huh, ok. right on.21:55
adanteTJ-: alrighty, cheers21:55
ObrienDaveanew2, oh please explain the logic of your request, we are waiting with bated breath21:55
bazhanganew2, /join #winehq21:55
guntbertObrienDave: not needed21:55
OerHeksanew2, check the wine HQ database https://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=version&iId=1825621:55
anew2i am using a windows program on ubuntu, and it is dependent on firefox...21:55
bazhanganew2, so check the appdb, /join #winehq21:56
OerHeksanew2, carefull, flash will not work :-D21:56
anew2i was just explaining to everyone who asked why21:56
adanteTJ-: success! thanks! do you have paypal?21:59
TJ-adante: No, but I have 2 huskies that need a 10 mile run :)21:59
Beldarlol21:59
* TJ- hands adante the reins :)22:00
ObrienDavewatch out where the huskies go and don't you eat that yellow snow ;P22:00
Mark-StrugglingHi All I hate to come on here and beg, but I've screwed myself and now I dont know what to do... I corrupted the sudoers file, and I have now restored it to the 14.04 default but now I can't run any commands with sudo anymore... If there is anyone out there that can help I will forever be in gratitude22:00
BeldarFZ22:00
bluetowerfigured out my problem22:00
adanteTJ-: uh if thats not a metaphor for something... i probably can't help you - sorry!22:00
ObrienDaveBeldar, +122:01
TJ-adante: Thanks for the offer... but I do this to contribute back to the Free Open Source community22:01
bluetowerOK get this, I couldnt see any thing in my terminal. I installed xfce.. come to find out a setting by default was checked that put black font on black background22:01
Deihmosubuntu locks up randomly for me. How do I figure out the reason22:01
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k1lDeihmos: locks up like screenlock or like hanging/crashing22:02
TJ-Mark-Struggling: Boot in Recovery mode, drop to the root shell, and then you can repair it22:02
Deihmosfreezes22:02
k1lDeihmos: first look should go into dmesg and /var/log/syslog after that freeze happened22:03
Deihmosafter i reboot?22:03
Red_Misthave a noob question here... I'm trying to run a program but I keep getting this error... http://pastebin.com/sS4U63ET22:03
Deihmosnothing similiar to windows event viewer in ubuntu22:03
Mark-StrugglingTJ- I think I have managed to fix the file now, the problem is that when I try run any command with sudo, it does work, eg. sudo su, sudo -s, sudo chmod, sudo chown etc....22:03
k1lafter you rebooted see the syslog.0 or syslog.1 in the /var/log/ directory22:04
TJ-k1l: Deihmos: More useful to look at "/var/log/kern.log" - "/var/log/dmesg" only contains the boot-time kernel messages22:04
k1lDeihmos: or dmesg.122:04
adanteTJ-: appreciate the speed at which you fixed that - it'd probably be a 2-3 hour round trip for me22:04
TJ-adante: You're fortunate I'm currently writing an extensive guide on the PC boot process and how to fix the various issues, so this stuff is 2nd nature to me22:04
k1lTJ-: ok. dmesg was good for a first look for me so far22:05
bluetowerRed_Mist, is this on a ras pi?22:05
TJ-k1l: I usually use dmesg for boot-time info and kern.log for later issues, such as suspend/resume, Panics, and freezes22:06
Red_Mistbluetower its on my computer22:06
Red_Mistbut the ras pi looks cool.22:07
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daftykinsRed_Mist: ask the people that make these bitcoin miner programs, it's not very relevant here.22:09
bluetowerRed_Mist, I'm a little lost. the errors are for i2c thats a type of serial bus that computers use.. as I'm reading it if I'm not missing someting there is no device driver or manager. I think your having a device issue.22:09
Red_Mistits possible... let me ask another question then.22:09
Red_Mistis it fair to say that when running things as root in ubuntu, one should use "sudo" or is there a way to actually run things as root?22:10
bluetowerdaftykins, ohhhhhh that makes sense. is that a program for controlling a hardware based bitcoin mining ?22:10
daftykinsbluetower: not hardware no, more likely GPU22:10
daftykinswhich ok is hardware, but - you get me i'm sure :)22:10
bluetowerdaftykins, that was going to be my runner up question. what kind of GPU does he have22:11
Red_Mistyeah, its gpu bitmining..22:11
ObrienDaveRed_Mist, you should use sudo22:11
ezioi want to update phpmyadmin.  it says that there's nothing to upgrade.  but i know that's a filthy lie.22:12
bluetowerso ya Red_Mist your issue is the fact that the program is looking for hardware control. so there is more software you may need or something to be configured. the other issue could be the drivers you have loaded for your video card or the lack of support maybe.22:12
ezioany ideas?22:12
ezioi think it's because i'm on 12.0422:13
Red_Mistbluetower: okay, thanks for the help.. I had a suspicion that was the case.22:13
bekksezio: the latest version in the ubuntu repos is not necessarily the latest upstream version.22:13
bluetowerRed_Mist, I dont know how much you know about bitmining, but the older ATI video cards of a certain range are the IDEAL22:13
eziobekks, i have a recent installation of ubuntu and its phpmyadmin is much more awsomer22:14
Red_Mistbluetower: I'm using a 6850 so I should be set for "ideal" just having a hard time getting the right software installed as all the documentation is as old as the hardware.22:14
bekksezio: And still the version in the repos for your specific release isnt the same for all releases.22:14
eziobekks, right so how can i upgrade that22:15
eziojust ... include a new repo?22:15
eziothis is a production server.  that might not be a good thing?22:15
bekksezio: No, either include a PPA (which is unsupported in here) or update it manually. On a productive server, I'd stick with the version from the repos. Which release are you on?22:16
Red_Mistthanks again bluetower freenode has a #cgminer room! gonna check it out.22:16
eziobekks, 12.0422:16
eziolooooooooooool22:16
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Red_Mistezio... sure is22:17
bluetowerwake me when they are kicked. I'm compiling22:17
eziosomeone's mad about being kicked22:17
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daftykinsanother fine day helping for free.22:18
kostkonso much hate in the world :/22:18
kostkonis it over?22:19
magicWonder why someone would spam a Linux channel...22:19
* erry glues eyes to channel22:19
Atlantic777it must be evil competition...22:19
daftykinsok moving on, nothing to see here people22:19
geniimagic: Maybe it killed their cat and burnt their house down.22:19
daftykinsback to support as per the topic22:19
bluetowerI need help a jack ass spammed the channel22:20
bluetowerlol22:20
Red_Mistso, got my answer, cgminer no longer supports older versions of my gpu.. so I have to install an older version of cgminer22:20
bluetowerugh still compiling22:20
wellyHello all. Got an Ubuntu 14.04 server running. I'm trying to use key authentication to set up a passwordless login for a particular user on the server22:21
daftykinsRed_Mist: ok, still off topic here so please keep it elsewhere22:21
wellyI keep getting "Roaming not allowed by server" when I ssh into it with ssh -v22:21
wellyused ssh-copy-id to upload my public key to the server, have checked the permissions on my local machine22:22
ezioit's like when the firebell goes and nobody hast to work!22:22
wellyno idea what left to try22:22
Tex_Nickgenii: they might have had a caffeine overdose ? ;)22:22
Red_Mistso back on topic then.. I guess my mom would be up for sucking cock for free..22:22
geniiTex_Nick: Possibly :)22:22
wellyI'm able to ssh on to other servers, just this new one is giving me problems22:22
Tex_Nick;)22:22
ObrienDavewow, simply wow22:22
ezioRed_Mist, all these years i've been paying22:23
ezioso from what i'm hearing ... best to update phpmyadmin by hand22:23
bekksezio: Best to keep the latest version from the repos on a productive server.22:24
eziobekks, can you rephrase that?  not quite sure of the denotation22:25
bekksezio: I'd not update things manually on productive servers unless you actually need new feature as requirements of the productive usage.22:27
eziobekks, that is exactly it22:27
bekksezio: So which feature of phpmyadmin do you need from the manual update?22:27
ezioinline editing22:27
bluetowerhttp://paste.ubuntu.com/8048933/            ok here is my video card the next thing I'm working on is I need to get 3d video drivers working22:27
bluetowerthe most stable I can for an ATI x1050 video card22:28
eziooh and there's just a ton of other stuff22:28
bekksezio: Inline editing of... queries/statements?22:28
eziobut he says inline editing22:28
ezioand he's a supernoob22:28
eziorecords22:28
bekksezio: He should get a sane sql editor then instead of a web gui :)22:28
eziohe wouldn't know what to do22:29
bekksezio: So he doesnt knwo what to do in phpmyadmin.22:29
eziohe uses the godaddy phpmyadmin22:29
bluetowershould I install these 3 packages? http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?suite=lucid&arch=any&searchon=contents&keywords=glxgears22:29
ezioand wants phpmyadmin to work the same way22:29
ezioyeah22:30
ezioyou're right bekks22:30
ezioit's not worth risking the server over22:30
bluetower?22:32
mzazaI have Sony Vaio laptop which has a USB Port which could charge USB devices, even if the laptop is switched off. It used to work in Windows, but it doesn't work in Ubuntu. Any idea on how to get it working?22:32
TJ-mzaza: depends on proprietary driver from Sony, which as far as I recall is only available  on Windows.22:33
mzazaTJ-: Thanks :)22:33
Martiinihow do I stop a command to print errors? I want to omit error output of find command22:36
kostkonMartiini, http://stackoverflow.com/questions/8220098/how-to-redirect-the-output-of-an-application-in-background-to-dev-null22:38
Martiinikostkon, > /dev/null 2>&1 wont print a thing22:39
kostkonMartiini, 2> only redirects stderr, it does not touch stdout22:40
kostkonMartiini, http://askubuntu.com/questions/350208/what-does-2-dev-null-mean22:41
alfonsojonWhere can I go for PowerPC support? #ubuntu-powerpc seems dead.22:42
daftykinsit's not supported22:42
daftykinsat all.22:42
alfonsojonIt's supported by the community.22:43
alfonsojonPowerPC also receives new builds of any open-source software in the repos.22:44
daftykinsi fail to see what the distinction you believe to be making there is22:44
alfonsojonI don't count that as "unsupported"22:44
daftykinsalfonsojon: then consult the community :)22:44
kostkonalfonsojon, ask for support here22:44
daftykinskostkon: that's against policy actually22:45
alfonsojonkostkon: Alright22:45
alfonsojon...22:45
daftykins!ppc22:45
ubottuPowerPC.  Formerly used by Apple for the Macintosh line of computers. Variants are now used in popular gaming consoles. PPC was a fully supported Ubuntu architecture up to and including edgy. It is now a community port, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PowerPCFAQ22:45
daftykinsdead after edgy.22:45
alfonsojonNot "dead" at all...22:45
alfonsojonI'm running 12.04 just fine right now...22:45
Martiinikostkon, heh, grep -ri error 2> /dev/null printed output of EVERYTHING .. screens of random data22:45
kostkonno idea then22:45
daftykinsalfonsojon: i can run windows 3.11, doesn't mean i'd go and phone up Microsoft to have help with it22:45
kostkonMartiini, :/22:45
daftykinssee my point?22:45
Psil0CybinHey guys trying to get my swap working in 14.04, i typed "mkswap /dev/mapper/xubuntu--vg-swap_1" and it made a swap appear, i am assuminng that is not the encrypted swap that was made during the install of 14.04, so could i temporaroly use that, or would i bne able to easily encrypt it and run it as well, perhaps making a script to mount it on every bootup22:45
alfonsojondaftykins: But you can go on an IRC channel.22:46
alfonsojondaftykins: Also, I'm using a non-EOL distro.22:46
alfonsojonUbuntu 12.04.22:46
daftykinsalfonsojon: right, as long as it's not this one22:46
alfonsojonWindows 3.1 has been long-since end-of-life22:46
alfonsojon...22:46
alfonsojonI don't see the reason for the hostility though.22:46
alfonsojonI'm just using Ubuntu on PowerPC.22:47
daftykinsthere is no hostility, i am just stating fact22:47
daftykinsand you are challenging fact22:47
alfonsojonBut if it were not supported, then I would not be running it right now.22:47
alfonsojonYesterday, I received help regarding nomodeset that got it booted and running fine.22:47
ObrienDaveROFLMAO22:47
kostkon??22:47
alfonsojon?22:47
daftykinsi want what ObrienDave is having22:47
daftykinsalfonsojon: probably 'cause you didn't state what it was at the time22:48
daftykinsjust like we sometimes mistakenly help Mint users until we find out they're using that instead of ubuntu22:48
testerrHi, everyone. Is there a way to get the environment variables for a specific user? I'm trying to figure out a way for crontab to get an up-to-date version of my user's env22:48
ObrienDavealfonsojon> But if it were not supported, then I would not be running it right now.22:48
Beldaralfonsojon, YOU got help and said you found the answer since you were using yaboot.22:48
alfonsojonBeldar: Yes, but it was the right fix22:48
alfonsojonI just needed to type "live nomodeset"22:49
alfonsojon:P22:49
daftykinsanyway, arguing policy is a sure fire way to get ignored around here22:49
daftykinsif you're going to run your ancient antique, that's fine, but do it on someone elses time please22:49
Beldaralfonsojon, You are a user that will word what you want to suit your point rather true or not, go away.22:50
alfonsojonSorry.22:50
adantecan someone tell me how to install this: http://www.ubuntuupdates.org/ppa/mythtv_0.2722:50
alfonsojonI apologize for being a bit immature22:50
adanteive done the add-apt-repository and apt-get-update but when i do apt-cache show it still shows Version 2:0.27.022:50
adantei assume this is still getting from the main repository and not the ppa i just installed? however I would like to install the ppa version22:51
adante(which is more up to date)22:51
ObrienDaveadante, notice the 0.27? that is the PPA version22:51
daftykinsadante: pretty sure there's a mythtv channel22:51
adanteObrienDave: the ppa version is 2:0.27.3+fixes.20140812.082d5c1-0ubuntu0mythbuntu3 ?22:52
Beldaralfonsojon, Besides the fact you were trying to get help on a derivative earlier that our conversation yesterday which I overlooked.22:52
Beldarthan*22:52
adanteObrienDave: the version showing on apt-cache show is 0.27.022:52
alfonsojonBeldar: It was Kubuntu, sorry22:52
bluetowerbrb22:52
alfonsojonwell, once I came here for nvidia support on elementary as well22:53
OerHeksadante are you on raring?22:53
alfonsojonthat was also a bad idea.22:53
daftykinsalfonsojon: indeed, so you deceive us into helping. now, conversation over22:53
alfonsojonI get that22:54
alfonsojonI have been done, I'm sorry.22:54
adanteOerHeks: sorry what?22:54
alfonsojon:/22:54
ObrienDaveadante, what version of Ubuntu are you running?22:55
kardanhey, I ran into an issue upgrading from precise to trusty via "upgrade-manager -d": http://paste.debian.net/plain/115666 - E: Internal Error, No file name for libss222:55
TJ-daftykins: I take issue with the 'support' interpretation vis PPC architecture. The "no-support" is specific to *Canonical Paid Support* but the announcement specifically states that PPC will remain a "community supported" architecture. This channel is for "community support" - we're not employed nor paid by Canonical.22:55
k1lkardan: no -d needed22:55
kardanshould I try to upgrade to quantal before aiming for trusty directly?22:55
adanteObrienDave: 14.0422:55
fedora_newbI am getting system program problem detected on system startup and not sure what the issue is. Restarted after update.22:55
fedora_newbHappned on a my separate partition and virtualhost22:56
daftykinsTJ-: i see your point, but then we also refuse to help with EOL releases don't we?22:56
k1lkardan: no. 12.04 to 14.04 is ok since its a LTS upgrade. but no - (for developer) needed22:56
alfonsojonI'm on 12.04....22:56
daftykinsso why not 'EOL' architectures? :)22:56
Martiinikostkon, ok, what is grep command for including certain lines22:56
TJ-daftykins: But we still publish 12.04 and 14.04 PPC ISOs and build the packages22:56
daftykinsi thought the community built those images22:57
k1lkardan: usually PPAs make trouble on upgrades22:57
kardanupdate-manager spits 'ERROR:/build/buildd/pygobject-3.2.2/gi/gimodule.c:328:_wrap_pyg_hook_up_vfunc_implementation: assertion failed: (G_TYPE_IS_CLASSED (implementor_gtype))'22:57
adanteObrienDave: am i misunderstanding something regarding the .27.3 vs .27.0 thing?22:57
TJ-daftykins: Additionally, on [1] it states "Server (LTS, 5 years)" against the 14.04 release link to ISO [1] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PowerPCDownloads/22:57
daftykinsprobably just a copy paste referring to the version22:58
OerHeksadante,  ah, cache reads the installed packes, run apt-get update && apt-get upgrade22:58
kardanI commented all sources and PPAs except de.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ trusty main restricted and security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu trusty-security main restricted universe multiverse22:58
TJ-daftykins: I agree it is confusing, but I don't think it is correct to refuse community support as if the user is doing something bad22:58
ObrienDaveadante, yes, i think so22:58
alfonsojonI may just try Debian22:58
alfonsojonOh wrong channel22:58
alfonsojonSorry22:59
daftykinswe've got a real joker on our hands now22:59
TJ-daftykins: The PPC releases contain the same package versions as the other architectures22:59
adanteOerHeks: mythtv is not installed so it is not showing the installed package22:59
kostkonMartiini, not an expert on grep sorry :(  what you need is a good grep tutorial :D22:59
alfonsojonI am on ##linux, I asked if anyone knew of an officially supported powerpc distro22:59
daftykinsTJ-: alright, but in case you haven't seen this user before, they're a chronic liar about what distro is even in use just to try and get help when other channels are quiet22:59
ObrienDaveTJ-, daftykins, no PPC ISO here ;P http://releases.ubuntu.com/14.04.1/22:59
alfonsojon`Cel sent me a link to distrowatch, sorted by powerpc23:00
alfonsojonI saw Debian under Ubuntu, so I wanted to thank him23:00
daftykinsalfonsojon: that's lovely but off topic here, no need to share thanks23:00
alfonsojonI was in the wrong channel, apologies23:00
TJ-daftykins: I'm not interested in the user, just the principle of Community Support for currently released and maintained packages23:00
daftykinsright well i'd like to move on now if possible23:00
OerHeksalfonsojon, ubuntu has a community supported ppc ubuntu, not official http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases/14.04/release/23:00
adanteObrienDave: can you elaborate on what i'm missing?23:01
daftykinsOerHeks: that point has kinda been the last 15 mins of convo haha23:01
alfonsojonOerHeks: It doesn't work, so I'm using 12.04. Thanks for the suggestion though :)23:01
Martiinikostkon, ha ha ha ha23:01
OerHeksthat must be an ancient ppc, G3?23:01
alfonsojonG423:02
kostkonkardan, are you getting the same errors after an sudo apt-get dist-upgrade ?23:02
alfonsojonThe problem is the GPU, LightDM locks up after a few seconds.23:02
kostkonMartiini, :)23:02
alfonsojonDoesn't seem to affect 12.04.23:02
kardanI managed to solve one of the dependency issues for gdm manually, following dpkg's errors via installing some libraries from the cache directy. But there is no way to go that path for all the pasted issues.23:02
netlarI am pleasantly surprised how stable 14.04 is23:02
netlarI had so many problems with 13.0423:02
ObrienDaveadante, what you're missing is once you install the PPA, install/upgrade defaults to the latest version23:03
Martiinikostkon, apparently, like with anything else in linux, you can do a million things with grep, but it wont do the most simple and logical thing you want23:03
netlarEven using the open source video driver and it works perfectly23:03
fedora_newbIf it helps, I was using nginx server on it and I can't access it after the updates. Not sure what course of action I should take?23:03
OerHekshttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/PowerPCKnownIssues#A14.04_Trusty_Tahr23:03
kardanapt-get dist-upgrade "E: Unmet dependencies. Try using -f."23:04
ObrienDaveadante, you will get the newest version23:04
williefre my earlier query about corrupted 14.04 server downloads - I got a good install off the netboot image - slow but at least I have a system now23:04
kostkonMartiini, agreed23:04
williefTJ-: ^^^^^23:04
Martiinifuck this, I hate computers, I'm going outside23:04
kostkonkardan, you can always try a sudo apt-get install -f && sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade23:04
kardankostkon, I think there is some dependency issue apt is unable to resolve.23:04
kostkon:(23:04
kardan"E: Internal Error, No file name for libss2"23:05
adanteObrienDave: ok, i'll give it a go, cheers23:05
ObrienDaveadante, good luck :)23:06
kostkonkardan, or clean the cache apt-get clean then attempt to continue the upgrade apt-get dist-upgrade or apt-get install -f first23:06
TJ-For reference, all Martiini needs to ignore errors from 'find' is: "find /path <options> 2>/dev/null" to redirect stderr file-descriptor to nothing23:07
kostkonkardan, and enable all the standard ubuntu repos if you have disabled some of them23:08
fedora_newbAny help would be appreciated.23:08
k1ldaftykins: Beldar alfonsojon OerHeks TJ- : if ppc is still community supported it should be supported in here since this channel is part of the community. if its too ppc specific the chances are quite low to solve the issues but the channel still could try to help if the users want to. thanks23:08
fedora_newbIs there anyway to rollback updates?23:09
alfonsojonfedora_newb: Distro upgrades or a package upgrade?23:10
alfonsojonAs in 12.04 to 14.04, or just updating a specific  package?23:10
k1lfedora_newb: there is no downgrade option for ubuntu23:10
kostkonfedora_newb, if by that you mean updated versions of packages from ppas, then yes, with ppapurge23:10
popeyyou can downgrade specific packages, even multiple packages, but it's not recommended.23:11
k1lfedora_newb: but you can force an older version of one package and make that hold. but i am not used to that23:11
popeyapt-get install packagename=version23:11
fedora_newbI am not sure. I am getting System program problem detected on startup. My nginx, phpmysqmin, etc I can't access.23:11
Beldark1l, I never questioned the support. It was the wording of the user claiming no support when I had helped them, they had never heard of nomodeset. They are using a 3rd part boot yaboot so they had to find answers that worked. Beyond that they were trying to get support on a derivative knowing it was not supported and argumentative there.23:11
fedora_newbI really need it right now too. Deadlineswith work. :/23:11
alfonsojonBeldar: And I apologize for being aggressive23:12
TJ-fedora_newb: check the recently changed log files for clues23:12
fedora_newbhttp://screencast.com/t/p3vJJ97OC23:12
fedora_newbNot sure if that helps?23:12
k1lBeldar: yes, it should be made clear what setup that is to not run in the wrong direction with the efforts of the volunteers.23:12
fedora_newbIs it possible all my config files were jacked up?23:13
popeyI'd look to fix what's broken rather than downgrade fedora_newb23:13
fedora_newbHow can I tell what is broken?23:13
popeyfedora_newb: well, what doesn't work?23:13
popeyfedora_newb: what's the actual issue23:13
Beldark1l, They will argue there own rhetoric whether within channel norms or not or even right or wrong23:13
fedora_newbpopey, to begin with, when I restarted because of an update, I get System program problem detected. And my web server is down.23:14
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popeyfedora_newb: system program problems occur now and then, and may or may not be related to the issue at hand23:14
popeyfedora_newb: I would look at the logs for your webserver, usually in /var/log somewhere23:14
popeyfedora_newb: the system problem popup is indicating something crashed, you can see the crash files in /var/crash which will indicate what crashed23:15
fedora_newbpopey it seems that php5-fpm crashed23:16
popeyok23:16
popeyfedora_newb: so nginx is your webserver?23:17
fedora_newbpopey, yep.23:17
popeyfedora_newb: so if you run "ps aux | grep nginx" is there any process (other than grep) listed?23:17
fedora_newbnginx: worker?23:18
fedora_newb@ popey23:18
popeysorry?23:18
fedora_newbpopey http://pastebin.com/0qeUetqd23:19
popeyyay, its running23:20
popeyso, what's the problem? ☻23:20
fedora_newbI can't access like my sites externally23:21
kardan_kostkon, thanks for your help. This is what I try: mv /var/cache/apt/archives{,.bck}; mkdir -p /var/cache/apt/archives/partial; apt-get update && apt-get upgrade -fy # ETA 1h 3min23:21
bekksfedora_newb: What do you mean by "externally"? How exactly are you trying to access them?23:21
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popeybekks: its a vm23:22
fedora_newbpopey, bekks, so like for phpmyadmin, I had it setup to access on my windows machine through pma-dev.com23:22
fedora_newbYes, its a vm23:22
Greenahey, just installed vsftpd but I can't seem to start it using service vsftpd start on ubuntu 14.0423:22
popeyfedora_newb: has the IP address changed?23:22
Greenathere seems to be an upstart script in /etc/init/vsftpd but service starting gives me "vsftpd: unrecognized service"23:23
kostkonkardan, ETA for getting the packages?23:23
kardanyep23:23
OmegAlphai know this may sound like an absurd question.. but is anyone in here from South Africa?23:23
BeldarOmegAlpha, There may be a local there, not a channel question.23:24
OmegAlphaBeldar: i know its off-topic.. trying to find an old mate from ten years ago who was teaching me linux.. i forgot his nick though :-\23:25
BeldarOmegAlpha, Not the place is all.23:25
k1lOmegAlpha: you are free to talk about this in #ubuntu-offtopic23:25
OmegAlphaBeldar: he hangs out here.. this is where i met him.. so i figured i would ask.. sorry for the interruption. carry on :)23:26
OmegAlphais there a chat log for this channel and if so... how far back do they date to?23:28
popey!logs | OmegAlpha23:28
ubottuOmegAlpha: Official channel logs can be found at http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/ . LoCo channels are now logged there too.23:28
alfonsojonIs GCC 4.8 available in the 12.04 backports repo?23:31
vaaibuscar-injhi23:31
vaaibuscar-injdoes anybody here exprienced with sql injection ? Looking for someone skilled, smth fast. reward with btc. Pm me for info.23:31
popeyalfonsojon: http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=gcc-4.8 says no23:32
alfonsojonAlright, thanks popey23:32
popeynp23:32
ricksebakI just upgraded a server from 12.04 to 14.04 via do-release-upgrade, now when it boots I just get this periodically scrolling across the console:http://imgur.com/ro2rMMv23:32
kostkonvaaibuscar-inj, you are in the wrong channel23:32
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Frank__popey, bekks, ip adress was the issue. Thanks guys for your help!23:33
popeyFrank__: sweet!23:33
alfonsojonricksebak: That would be a kernel panic.23:33
popeyFrank__: happy it's sorted23:33
Frank__Very much appreciated, saved my day :)23:33
popey\o/23:33
popeyyou've made mine, I will sleep happy now ㋛23:33
Frank__haha :)23:33
ricksebakalfonsojon: any idea what I can do about it? I tried the upgrade yesterday, got the same error, reverted to a snapshot and tried again today, same result.23:34
popeyricksebak: is this a vm?23:34
ricksebakIt is, yes.23:34
popeyricksebak: vbox/vmware, something else?23:34
ricksebakvbox23:34
ricksebakwith 12.04 as the host, in case that matters.23:35
alfonsojonricksebak: I'm not sure, but it seems popey knows what he's doing :)23:35
popeyricksebak: can you hold down shift when the vm boots and maybe select the older kernel?23:35
popeyricksebak: might boot, and if it does, helps to diagnose further23:35
ProfessorKaos64Is a good reason to to a remaster of Ubuntu if my intent is to have a dedicated gaming distro , and a stable snapshot of the project?23:36
popeyProfessorKaos64: depends if you think your time is well spent doing that23:36
kostkonProfessorKaos64, for personal use?23:36
ProfessorKaos64personal yea23:36
popeyProfessorKaos64: personally, SteamOS seems like a good option for a dedicated gaming distro, add desura and wine and you're done23:37
ProfessorKaos64Right not I have a retro gaming installer script that does a lot of work with packages23:37
popeysounds fun23:37
ProfessorKaos64popey, the* popey that is on LAS often?23:37
popeythe same23:37
ProfessorKaos64Nice to meet you23:37
popeyyou too23:37
ProfessorKaos64We are ending up modifying xbmc heavily and several things, control is paramount, for now we apt-hold pkgs and the like23:37
ricksebakpopey: Kernel panic on the older kernel, and also recovery mode on the older kernel.23:38
ProfessorKaos64upgrade the kernel on 14.04 due to the hid-sony bug23:38
popeyricksebak: eek23:38
popeyricksebak: did the upgrade complete okay?23:38
ricksebakyeah23:38
ProfessorKaos64I'll have to consider a remaster after I hit 1.0 in my project and thing are stable23:38
popeyricksebak: does vbox support some kind of virtual external serial console, so you can capture the entire kernel panic?23:39
popeyricksebak: it could be something silly like the vbox extensions, or some option in vbox that needs flipping like pae or something23:39
Deihmoshow do I find out why ubuntu locked up23:40
ProfessorKaos64popey, with SteamOS I have thought about targeting that at some point, since xbmc was added to the project not long ago23:40
popeyDeihmos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DebuggingSystemCrash23:41
ricksebakI definitely suspect something silly like you mentioned, but I don't think it supports anything other than a plain old console. I can only get one screen full at a time until it scrolls away. I do know that during the upgrade, the vbox kernel modules got removed. Does that sound related?23:41
popeyricksebak: should be okay with or without them. I'd be inclined to boot that vm off a live iso, mount the filesystem and poke at /var/log23:42
ricksebakpopey: ahh, perfect, I didn't know that it would start logging there so early in the boot process. Thanks.23:42
popeyricksebak: https://www.virtualbox.org/wiki/Serial_redirect ?23:43
popeyricksebak: looks like you can redirect tty0 to a file on the host23:43
Deihmosdamn i was hoping for something like vent viewer23:43
popeyDeihmos: sorry, lockups are tricky to debug, I'd certainly run memtest overnight as a first step23:43
rijackhi Im coming over from arch does ubuntu have an equivilent to the makepkg script23:44
ricksebakawesome. thanks!23:44
popeyricksebak: good luck23:44
popeyrijack: kinda, we have tools for building packages, but it's a bit more complex than makepkg23:44
popeyrijack: we have some "dumbed down" tools like checkinstall which can do a similar task though23:44
Deihmosmemory is fine.23:45
popeyrijack: http://www.linuxjournal.com/content/using-checkinstall-build-packages-source is a good basic starter23:45
popeyDeihmos: then you need to go through that guide really. does the crash get triggered a predictable times or in predictable ways?23:46
popeyDeihmos: like, only when you use an opengl game, or only when you have chrome open?23:46
rijacknice thanks23:47
ZackWolf_hey all... i am really new to Ubuntu how ever have built a LTSP server.  We have a mix of RDP thin clients and PXE thin clients.  I'd prefer all PXE however some of them are old.  Question i have is how can I have a shared folder where all users have read/write access to all files and all new files going into that folder23:47
alfonsojonIs there a way to mount HFS+ as read-write?23:47
alfonsojonPreferably without disabling journaling, I would like to keep that enabled.23:47
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rijackso it sounds like it is up to me to resolve dependencies and build, only after that then checkinstall rolls the package and checks sanity is this correct?23:52
OerHeksalfonsojon, no, you have to disable journaling https://help.ubuntu.com/community/hfsplus23:52
popeyrijack: yes, thats a good summary23:52
alfonsojonOerHeks: Alright, but isn't that risky?23:52
popeyrijack: are you packaging something brand new that doesn't already have a deb package in ubuntu or debian?23:52
rijackalright thanks23:53
rijackno i want to know that i could if i needed to23:53
OerHeksalfonsojon, jups i think so. not sure what OSx does when you have written to it.23:53
popeyok23:54
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bluetoweris live and could help me?23:55
bluetowerok who here is live and could help me23:55
ang_Hi all, I have an issue with my wifi, I am using an usb adapter and I keep losing connection. I moved the computer near the modem to be able to plug in and look for help in this chat, anyone has any idea of how to fix this?23:55
popey!ask | bluetower23:56
ubottubluetower: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience23:56
bluetowerpopey, last 3 times I've asked any question no one has responded23:56
popeyang_: i have seen that with a cheap usb adapter23:56
popeybluetower: ask now and lets see23:56
bluetowercheck the logs if you dont believe me23:56
popeybluetower: i dont doubt it ☻23:56
davidadamscan someone help me sort out some file permissions issues? I'm trying to add read and write permissions to a group on a folder recursively. It ain't working: https://gist.github.com/dadamssg/741461d048b8bd61f72923:56
ang_popey, the adapter works fine on windows23:56
popeyang_: this is not uncommon, what make and model of adapter is it?23:57
delinquentmeIs there a goos reason that all unzip options iwthin ubuntu aren't just $ unzip blah.extension ??23:57
delinquentmewhy do I need -xzvf for a un tar ... its just silly23:57
rwwdelinquentme: you don't. tar -xf works fine23:57
bluetowerhere is he deal. I have an ATI X1050 gpu, and just installed 14.04. I'm trying to get 3d acceleration working23:57
popeydelinquentme: because the command can compress and uncompress, it dosn't know what you want to do until you tell it23:57
bluetowerI had it working under debian and I dont know why I cant get it working under 14.0423:57
rwwdelinquentme: the x means extract, the f means take it from a file instead of standard input23:57
delinquentmerww,  +123:58
ObrienDavebluetower, you asked if you should install glxgears, why ask us that?23:58
rww(it autodetects the compression format, and -v just means verbose output)23:58
ang_popey: Bolse® 300Mbps Wifi Wireless N USB Micro Mini Adapter - Win7 Mac 2.4G 802.11ngb 32-Bit and 64-Bit Compatible23:58
popeybluetower: sorry, I know nothing about ATI cards ☹23:58
bluetowerfglx apears to be part of the ati video drivers stuff23:58
daftykinsbluetower: confirm the driver that was used in each23:58
daftykinsbluetower: it really is likely to be best off using the 'radeon' driver though, which should be what it's using now23:58
OerHeksbluetower, x1050 is no longer supported by the ati driver, it is very old23:59
daftykinsah pre 4xxx series then, so legacy23:59
OerHeks!ati23:59
ubottuFor Ati/NVidia/Matrox video cards, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VideoDriverHowto23:59
daftykinstranslation: 'radeon' driver or game over, typically. (or run another distro with an older X)23:59
popeyang_: looks like a Realtek based wifi card?23:59
bluetowerI know its old but it supports opengl 2.0 which is more then enough for almost anything I need23:59

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