[07:30] <dunebuggie> hello people
[07:30] <dunebuggie> noob here, need some help with lubuntu
[07:30] <silverlion> well let's try if another noob can help you ;)
[07:30] <dunebuggie> :D YAAY!
[07:31] <dunebuggie> So i just switched to lubuntu from ubuntu with a fresh installation
[07:31] <dunebuggie> and now my wifi doesnt seem to work
[07:31] <dunebuggie> I've tried searching the depths of google and askubuntu but nothing helped me :/
[07:31] <silverlion> dunebuggie : do you have your icon on the right lower corner?
[07:32] <dunebuggie> No, only the ethernet
[07:32] <dunebuggie> not the wifi one that used to be on ubuntu
[07:32] <silverlion> so you have a cable connected to connect to the internet?
[07:33] <silverlion> because ethernet and wifi do have the same icon ;)
[07:33] <dunebuggie> I am connected via cable, but in ubuntu i remember the wifi symbol while the ethernet one had two arrows facing away from eachother
[07:33] <dunebuggie> darn, it feels weird to explain icons :P
[07:40] <dunebuggie> Here is a screenshot
[07:40] <dunebuggie> http://i.imgur.com/T7EMBC9.png
[07:46] <dunebuggie> ping!
[07:46] <dunebuggie> anyone?
[07:46] <dunebuggie> #foreveralone :|
[07:48] <silverlion> dunebuggie : sorry my RL keeps me busy
[07:49] <dunebuggie> that's alright silverlion , I'm kinda hooked on to somehow fixing this issue today
[07:49] <dunebuggie> hence the spam :/
[07:49] <silverlion> well looking at the screenshot I'd say: try a right-click on those two arrows (aka ethernet) ... there must also turn up something like wireless
[07:51] <dunebuggie> Nope, none.
[07:51] <silverlion> have you unplugged the cable?
[07:53] <dunebuggie> I think i kinda know where the problem is :/
[07:53] <dunebuggie> ill send another screenie
[07:54] <silverlion> copy
[07:54] <dunebuggie> http://i.imgur.com/Aba0O5s.png
[07:55] <dunebuggie> I tried switching it to the broadcom driver, but that does not seem to work since it's already mentioned it doesn't work.
[07:56] <silverlion> what have you declared to be your primary connection? wifi or ethernet?
[07:56] <dunebuggie> I'm not sure if I had set that
[07:57] <silverlion> see ... there could be the cause
[07:57] <silverlion> but i am not sure as I am a noob too and currently forced to use windows
[07:58] <dunebuggie> oh!damn. I'll try and set that stuff and see if it works.
[07:58] <dunebuggie> thanks for the help silverlion
[07:59] <silverlion> hang on
[07:59] <silverlion> I might have a solution. gimme a min
[07:59] <dunebuggie> sure
[07:59] <dunebuggie> ill be in here :)
[08:01] <silverlion> dunebuggie : try http://askubuntu.com/questions/252958/broadcom-driver-woes << scroll all the way down to the last answer and try the solution given
[08:01] <silverlion> if that does not work you should consider a fresh install with an iso from http://lubuntu.net
[08:03] <dunebuggie> on it! I Hope this works
[08:12] <dunebuggie> silverlion: it worked!!
[08:12] <dunebuggie> Thanks a ton brother!!
[08:12] <dunebuggie> Im indebted to you for life!
[08:12] <silverlion> ;)
[08:12] <dunebuggie> :D
[08:12] <silverlion> dunebuggie : no you are not ;)
[08:13] <silverlion> that's what makes the spirit of this community
[08:13] <silverlion> ;)
[08:13] <dunebuggie> Opensource FTW!! :D
[09:29] <comics_idees> hi my gpu driver is RS300m how can I install it in lubuntu?
[09:29] <comics_idees> it says that R200 is installed
[09:30] <comics_idees> but I want RS300m
[09:30] <comics_idees> to install
[10:03] <joern> comics_idees: I guess you have a Radeon 9xxx in your computer?
[10:03] <comics_idees> yes
[10:04] <comics_idees> but the exactly driver is RS300m
[10:04] <comics_idees> and I dont know how to install it
[10:04] <comics_idees> it has R200 installed
[10:06] <comics_idees> well joern has quit, anyone knows the answer?
[10:07] <rafaellaguna> he'll be back in a minute
[10:08] <joern> then there is only the preinstalled driver - everything is correct comics_idees
[10:09] <comics_idees> well it is not correct
[10:09] <comics_idees> it cannot play videos well
[10:09] <comics_idees> I need the RS300m driver not any other driver
[10:09] <comics_idees> how to install it
[10:10] <rafaellaguna> use the fglrx_updates drivers
[10:10] <rafaellaguna> you serial number will be added to the kernel if the card has a month or two
[10:10] <comics_idees> why not to use RS300m which is the correct driver
[10:10] <rafaellaguna> not fglrx only, fglrx_updates
[10:10] <joern> no rafaellaguna!
[10:11] <rafaellaguna> I did
[10:11] <rafaellaguna> similar card here
[10:11] <joern> that card isn't supported for years in fglrx, that'll break his system
[10:11] <rafaellaguna> how old is it?
[10:11] <comics_idees> how to use flagrx_updates
[10:11] <comics_idees> it is 10years old
[10:11] <rafaellaguna> OMG!
[10:12] <joern> remove it ^^
[10:12] <comics_idees> but it works properly in windows xp
[10:12] <rafaellaguna> not similar to mine
[10:12] <joern> that's another story
[10:12] <comics_idees> now I want to  work it with lubuntu
[10:12] <rafaellaguna> can you move windows without any flickering, and without drivers in XP?
[10:12] <comics_idees> yes
[10:12] <rafaellaguna> O_o
[10:12] <joern> under linux, fglrx supports hd5000 series and younger
[10:13] <comics_idees> what is hd5000 series
[10:14] <comics_idees> younger than ATi 9xxx?
[10:14] <joern> much younger!
[10:14] <joern> ~3 years
[10:15] <joern> first: remove fglrx, second: install mesa-vdpau-drivers libgl1-mesa-glx libvdpau1 vdpauinfo
[10:15] <joern> that should fix issues with playing videos
[10:15] <comics_idees> how can I do this?
[10:15] <joern> sudo apt-get remove fglrx*
[10:15] <joern> sudo apt-get install mesa-vdpau-drivers libgl1-mesa-glx libvdpau1 vdpauinfo
[10:18] <joern> using old ATI graphics under linux is a bit tricky - when AMD bought ATI, they managed to lose documentation about the graphic chips
[10:18] <rafaellaguna> no way, did they?
[10:19] <joern> yes :P
[10:19] <comics_idees> can I install seperated each one?
[10:20] <comics_idees> with sudo in every one?
[10:20] <comics_idees> should I seperate them with ,   ?
[10:20] <comics_idees> or with space
[10:23] <cart_man> ikonia,so does anybody know if "linux/model.h" and " linux/init.h " comes standart with every Linux distro?
[10:26] <joern> comics_idees: use the commands like I wrote them
[10:26] <joern> space separating is correc
[10:26] <joern> *correct
[10:26] <joern> :D
[10:31] <silverlion> oh a wizzard makes his appearance ;)
[10:34] <cart_man> can  kernel source or kernel headers package be installed with apt-get for Lubuntu?
[10:35] <joern> yes
[10:35] <joern> headers are in linux-headers-generic
[10:35] <joern> source is in linux-source
[10:38] <cart_man> joern, Yea thanks ive found those but my Eclipse doesnt want to acknowledge that they are there
[10:39] <cart_man> it does see linux/kernel.h though
[10:39] <cart_man> which is in the same directory
[11:03] <BiosTrouble> good morning/evening everyone
[11:03] <BiosTrouble> something weird is happening on  my pc
[11:04] <BiosTrouble> is there anybody could help me think what could be the problem
[11:04] <BiosTrouble> ?
[11:06] <hateball> 40 seconds patience, not bad
[11:07] <BiosProb> hello folks
[11:08] <BiosProb> my bios doesn't see a graphic card that previously was working...
[11:09] <BiosProb> I am not sure about the root of the matter... it might be the graphic card that has gone, but I wonder: how easy is?
[11:09] <BiosProb> If is a bios problem, is there a way to sort it?
[11:11] <BiosProb> btw I am using Lubuntu
[11:19] <comics_idees> well I installed the suggested drivers , however youtube videos cannot play well
[11:20] <comics_idees> downloaded videos are played quite better
[11:45] <joern-away> comics_idees: youtube has a html5 mode which works better than flash, you can test it on youtube.com/html5
[11:46] <joern-away> I'm not sure if it works for Firefox, but it works good for Chromium
[13:15] <pmatulis> anyone else experiencing segfaults with lxpanel?  i know it was recently updated
[13:33] <testdr> pmatulis: i had a lot of them until i installed lubuntu -- i did run lxde on a normal ubuntu-desktop with additional installed lxde and from my experience it looks like some untiy/gnome/compiz.. things may collide, because in a normal install those jobs may still be started and keep running ...
[13:35] <testdr> pmatulis: now the last crash of lxpanel was after some heavy changes of desktop themes, where the panel got different lookouts .. and whoops it crashed ..
[14:06] <leszek> hi
[14:48] <pmatulis> i see i have a PPA enabled, i'll try the regular version and see if it helps
[14:53] <rafaellaguna> hi leszek
[15:02] <MeXTuX> Tried this http://www.linux-compatible.com/tutorial/docky-closes-after-waking-suspend-ubuntu to fix a Docky issue but now when I open LXTerminal the directory is / instead of my home directory. Any idea?
[15:04] <TaZeR> is it true lubuntu is better than ubuntu?
[15:04] <TaZeR> my friend told me to get it because it has have unisex or something
[15:05] <TaZeR> doesnt have*
[15:05] <MeXTuX> I installed Lubuntu on an old machine and it runs smoothly
[15:06] <MeXTuX> It requires less resources than Ubuntu
[15:44] <sydney> Ok, my audio out port is not working :-/ My speakers are though. Iam using an M-1617 gateway laptop
[15:46] <sydney> I dont know what to do,because i need earphones :(
[18:55] <rena_> Hello all. I get random segfault crashes sometimes. I don't know what causes it. I did full mem test already and no problem detected. I have other OSes on the same machine and disk that don't show any problems, apparently. It's an old machine though. I'm running 14.04 with latest kernel in the repo, 3.13.0-34. Anyone else getting these problems?
[19:09] <testdr> rena_: check your log-files: /var/log/kernel.log and sysfile.log at the times of crash for more hints - maybe a special program or driver
[19:20] <onla> if I want to install acestream on lubuntu 14.04 what do I add to repos
[19:20] <onla> http://acestreamguide.com/linux/
[19:20] <onla> deb http://repo.acestream.org/ubuntu/ raring main <- this?
[19:20] <rafaellaguna> it will give you signature errors
[19:21] <rafaellaguna> ensure you have Lubuntu 13.10
[19:21] <onla> I have 14
[19:21] <rafaellaguna> it says it will only work on 13
[19:22] <rafaellaguna> if there're not 14.04 packages inside you won't download nothing
[19:22] <onla> I found some tutorial for 14
[19:23] <rafaellaguna> me too :)
[19:23] <rafaellaguna> do you understand Spanish?
[19:23] <onla> echo 'deb http://repo.acestream.org/ubuntu/ raring main' | sudo tee /etc/apt/sources.list.d/acestream.list <- no idea what this does
[19:23] <onla> si
[19:23] <rafaellaguna> bien! http://www.taringa.net/posts/linux/17806136/Instalar-Ace-Stream-en-Ubuntu-14-04.html
[19:24] <rafaellaguna> just follow those steps, they tested it
[19:24] <rafaellaguna> but we didn't, so at your own risk :D
[19:24] <onla> :) gracias
[19:24] <rafaellaguna> de nada :D
[19:25] <rafaellaguna> btw, if you need Spanish help or support for ubuntu there's a channel you can add, #ubuntu-es
[19:25] <onla> ok
[19:25] <rafaellaguna> but you're always welcomed here, of course ;)
[19:33] <anarkhos> ok. ive now tried various things (adding "noapic" to the boot command, creating a file with an "ADD_ARGMENTS" line, a sleep.d script) to solve my suspend/sleep mode problem in lubuntu, but none of those have solved it. there's the possibility that it's fixable by changing video card drivers. it's an Intel card and i haven't touched the default settings yet. it seems to be working fine in general.
[19:33] <anarkhos> anyone who's familiar with this problem?
[19:34] <onla> E: Type ''deb' is not known on line 1 in source list /etc/apt/sources.list.d/acestream.list
[19:34] <onla> echo 'deb http://repo.acestream.org/ubuntu/ raring main' | sudo tee /etc/apt/sources.list.d/acestream.list  <- this is not valid I guess
[19:34] <onla> supposed to have ' at the begin?
[19:37] <genii> After you did that, what does: cat  /etc/apt/sources.list.d/acestream.list     ...say?
[19:40] <Replop2> in ubuntu , we could navigate local network shares from the file explorer.  Is it possible too with PCManFM, the default one of Lubuntu ?
[19:40] <onla> it has the ` in the begin
[19:41] <onla> 'deb http://repo.acestream.org/ubuntu/ raring main'
[19:42] <genii> onla: So open it with sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list.d/acestream.list    and remove the single quotes from the beginning and end, save and exit
[19:43] <onla> thanks
[19:46] <onla> got some 404 not found errors on one of the later steps when wgeting some lib stuff
[19:46] <onla> but maybe I'll just try the next step
[19:46] <onla> the last step before apt-get install
[19:51] <onla> or
[19:56] <anarkhos> ok, there's an error report about the suspend failure
[19:58] <anarkhos> "Sorry, Ubuntu 14.04 has experienced an internal error.. Executable path: /usr/share/apport/apportcheckresume, Problem type: KernelOops, Title: [Acer AO751h] suspend/resume failure. there's more, but that seems to be about programs and services that were affected by the failure itself
[20:01] <onla> libavdevice-extra-53_0.8.10ubuntu0.12.04.1_amd64.deb
[20:02] <onla> libavformat-extra-53_0.8.10ubuntu0.12.04.1_amd64.deb
[20:02] <onla> libavcodec-extra-53_0.8.10ubuntu0.12.04.1_amd64.deb
[20:02] <onla> libavutil-extra-51_0.8.10ubuntu0.12.04.1_amd64.deb
[20:03] <onla> I need these files
[20:03] <anarkhos> VGA compatible controller. Intel Corporation System Controller Hub (SCH Poulsbo) Graphics Controller (rev 07) - is this a notoriously troublesome card?
[20:14] <onla> found those and installed them, but still the next step won't work :I
[20:14] <onla> unmet dependencies: acestream-full : Depends: acestream-player (>= 2.1.6-1raring2) but it is not going to be installed
[20:16] <onla> http://forum.wiziwig.eu/threads/82806-Install-AceStream-on-Ubuntu last post same problem
[20:18] <ianorlin> oh derp raring dependices aren't good if you have trusty
[20:21] <Death_Syn> can anyone help me stop lxlock from cutting off my audio when it engages?
[20:21] <Death_Syn> this could be logind or something else, but i'm not sure how to determine it
[20:22] <Death_Syn> in the past, i was using xscreensaver to lock
[20:22] <Death_Syn> but some point int he 14.04 release cycle, lxlock has taken over and seems to be pushing me to lightdm to unlock
[20:24] <ianorlin> open the menu go to prefrences light locker settings and change to when the screensever is deactivated for automatically lock the session
[20:30] <Death_Syn> but Automatically lock the session is set to Never
[20:30] <Death_Syn> so what's locking me?
[20:30] <ianorlin> then I don't know
[20:31] <Death_Syn> :/
[20:31]  * Death_Syn tries disabling light-locker
[20:32] <Death_Syn> okay, that seems to have made the default locker the locker that gnome/unity uses
[20:32] <Death_Syn> but audio isn't dead, so that'll work, i guess
[20:32] <Death_Syn> just strange behavior
[20:44] <onla> got it working.. just had to google and install some dependencies dependencies debs
[20:51] <anarkhos> is there a way to close the gui end end up in the command prompt environment only?
[20:54] <phillw> anarkhos: I'm guessing you want run level 3, have a read of http://askubuntu.com/questions/228402/boot-to-runlevel-3
[20:55] <anarkhos> ok thanks
[20:59] <anarkhos> phillw: i looked through it. do i have to edit some files no matter what? that is, there is no single command i could use to just close the gui and end up in the console environment?
[21:00] <anarkhos> as a one-off test i men
[21:00] <anarkhos> i get that id have to edit the files in order to make it persistent
[21:00] <phillw> if ubuntu was compliant, yes.. you'd just edit grub. But it is not - so you need to go through all that cr@p :( Sorry.
[21:01] <anarkhos> ok
[21:01] <Death_Syn> can't just ctrl-alt-F[1-6] ?
[21:01] <Death_Syn> yeah, works here
[21:02] <anarkhos> hm.... ctrl+alt+F[WhatNumber]?
[21:05] <Death_Syn> any of those 6 should work
[21:05] <Death_Syn> your X session typically lives on tty7
[21:05] <Death_Syn> (which would be found on C-A-F7)
[21:09] <anarkhos> CTRL+ALT+F1, right to the CLI. that was suspiciously fast
[21:10] <anarkhos> so fast that i assume x is lurking in the background
[21:10] <Death_Syn> upstart is running getties on those ttys always unless you disable them
[21:10] <Death_Syn> yeah
[21:10] <Death_Syn> it doesn't kill your X session
[21:10] <anarkhos> id like to try that
[21:10] <Death_Syn> if you want to drop X, you'll want to change your runlevel
[21:10] <anarkhos> then maybe suspend will work
[21:10] <anarkhos> right
[21:10] <anarkhos> ill look at editing some files
[21:14] <anarkhos> "Just open /etc/default/grub as root and add text to the GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT=", " Then run: sudo update-grub". that's it, maybe?
[21:14] <anarkhos> not too much hassle after all
[21:15] <anarkhos> then it's a matter of typing "startx" to initiate x
[21:19] <anarkhos> and it says "add", not "replace", so ill make it ="quiet splash text" as opposed to ="text"
[21:21] <anarkhos> or sudo /etc/init.d/lightdm start instead of startx
[21:23] <anarkhos> ok that worked, but i saw the ubuntu screen prior to reaching the command-line interface. that's normal?
[21:24] <testdr> anarkhos: maybe you saw the boot-splash screen, thats looking most time like the default desktop-wallpaper
[21:24] <anarkhos> i suspect that what this didn'treally affect the runlevel
[21:24] <anarkhos> yes
[21:25] <anarkhos> is there a command to return current runlevel"?
[21:25] <anarkhos> who -r
[21:25] <anarkhos> runlevel 2
[21:28] <comics_idees> I use google chrome and youtube videos are corrupted
[21:28] <comics_idees> what should I do
[21:31] <phillw> comics_idees: ask on chrome area... we used to use chromium, which we will help with. chrome has it's own support area
[21:33] <comics_idees> where is that chrome support area for lubuntu?
[21:33] <phillw> comics_idees: it is an application, lubuntu do not actually run it.
[21:33] <rena_> Belated thanks to testdr
[21:39] <rena_> Another thing, I installed pulseaudio so skype would work. Now I get some "over run" entries in syslog and kern.log when I'm playing something with audio. Maybe this is what's causing problems too. But I think I had it also before installing. I use microphone built-in to webcam. I also start the computer with usb hub (with mouse and ups) and the usb webcam plugged in. Maybe that could lead to the kernel go haywire while loading
[21:41] <wxl> rena_: harumph. wonder if a real time kernel might not help you out.
[21:41] <phillw> wxl: you run chrome, do you not?
[21:41] <anarkhos> comics_idees: "youtube videos are corrupted"? could you be more specific?
[21:41] <wxl> phillw: yeppers
[21:42] <wxl> google-chrome proper, not chromium
[21:42] <wxl> i.e. "officially" unsupported ;)
[21:42] <phillw> can you give a pointer for comics_idees ?
[21:42] <wxl> sure what's up?
[21:42] <wxl> brb
[21:42] <comics_idees> anarkhos no corrupted but played as corrupted
[21:42] <phillw> wxl: (22:28:35) comics_idees: I use google chrome and youtube videos are corrupted
[21:43] <anarkhos> if i remove "quiet" from "="quiet splash text"", does that entail that ill see the initialization of the system in detail?
[21:43] <phillw> comics_idees: let wxl get a new cup of coffee
[21:43] <anarkhos> comics_idees: hmm
[21:43] <anarkhos> comics_idees: have you tried another web browser? corrupted there too?
[21:43] <comics_idees> ok I mean are played like corrupted videos
[21:43] <anarkhos> ye
[21:43] <phillw> comics_idees: be patient :)
[21:44] <comics_idees> the other web browsers are not as fast as chrome in my system
[21:44] <comics_idees> I think chrome is better for my system
[21:44] <wxl> k back
[21:44] <wxl> anarkhos: yeah i think you should eliminate splash if i remember correctly
[21:45] <wxl> comics_idees: have you tried using html5?
[21:45] <anarkhos> wxl: ok. maybe eliminate "quiet" too?
[21:45] <anarkhos> wxl: i like to see what's going in
[21:45] <comics_idees> well it doesnot have an html5 button under videos
[21:45] <wxl> comics_idees: also anarkhos' suggestion of comparing against another browser would be useful, not so you can use another browser, but so you can troubleshoot
[21:45] <anarkhos> wxl: like "loading network-module" etc?
[21:45] <wxl> anarkhos: yeah i think that would be best. you could also `dmesg` whenever you like too
[21:46] <anarkhos> ok
[21:46] <anarkhos> comics_idees: maybe the playback is not corrupted in firefox. then you'd know that the problem is limited to chrome
[21:46] <wxl> comics_idees: https://www.youtube.com/html5
[21:46] <comics_idees> firefox is not good in my system very slow
[21:47] <anarkhos> what do you mean? how slow? 10 minutes to load google.com?
[21:47] <wxl> comics_idees: again, we're not trying to convince you to use firefox, we're trying to remove variables. if it's corrupted in both, the problem is likely due to video drivers.
[21:47] <wxl> anarkhos: i wouldn't wage the browser war if i were you :)
[21:47] <wxl> if you want to have that fight, go have it at #lubuntu-offtopic! ;)
[21:47] <anarkhos> wxl: didn't think about that, just trying to provoke a reaction
[21:48] <comics_idees> I clicked  https://www.youtube.com/html5 and shows some green ticks  says html5 ok  supported
[21:48] <comics_idees> but
[21:48] <anarkhos> even if it takes a while to load youtube in FF, it would be handy to test it
[21:48] <comics_idees> no buton
[21:48] <comics_idees> but no buton to play video in html5
[21:49] <comics_idees> there is not any button to play video in html5
[21:50] <comics_idees> I want to make flash player to work properly on chrome in lubuntu
[21:51] <anarkhos> wxl: is there any reason not to use the "init 6" command to reboot, user-friendliness aside?
[21:51] <anarkhos> is it less smooth than the shutdown command in any way?
[21:51] <anarkhos> or is the latter an alias for the former?
[21:52] <phillw> anarkhos: they all call it in the end :)
[21:52] <anarkhos> phillw: yeah but... do they perform the same action?
[21:52] <anarkhos> or is there a reason to prefer either?
[21:53] <phillw> anarkhos: scripts may do polite things (such as kill, wait) init 6 is a kill -9 for everything and could leave corrupted files.
[21:54] <anarkhos> ok
[21:54] <anarkhos> ill use the normal method then
[21:55] <comics_idees> anarkhos you know that you have a greek nickname?
[21:55] <anarkhos> yeah
[21:55] <wxl> comics_idees: does it say it will use html by default?
[21:55] <comics_idees> no
[21:55] <wxl> anarkhos: naw init 6 will work
[21:55] <comics_idees> it uses flas
[21:55] <comics_idees> it uses flash by default
[21:56] <comics_idees> no button to change to html5
[21:56] <wxl> comics_idees: there should be a button to click. hm
[21:56] <anarkhos> wxl: yeah it will work, but "init 6 is a kill -9 for everything and could leave corrupted files"
[21:57] <wxl> anarkhos: oh i didn't know it kill -9'd. that's kind of harsh, really.
[21:57] <wxl> anarkhos: if you want to be that nutty, you could change the init scripts tho XD
[21:57] <anarkhos> wxl: well i rely on phillw's assertion here
[21:57] <phillw> anarkhos: kill asks an application to close down and allows it to have time. kill -9 is like pulling the mains lead out. The application / system has no chance but to totally cease...
[21:57] <phillw> anarkhos: A kill -15 will send the program a SIGTERM command, if it has been written correctly it will recognise this and try to shut down the process cleanly - a kill -9 will basically kill -kill the process and should be used as a last resort. 
[21:58] <wxl> anarkhos: well "eventually" being the point
[21:58] <phillw> kill -15 is the default
[21:58] <anarkhos> phillw: so ill just use the shutdown commadn
[21:58] <phillw> used by shutdown, eventually it will invoke -9
[21:59] <phillw> anarkhos: that is my adviice
[21:59] <anarkhos> yeah
[22:00] <wxl> anarkhos: if you're messing with dmesg and inits you should become a tester.
[22:01] <phillw> anarkhos: next time you do a shutdown, tap on the 'esc' key and you will actually get to see the shutdown happen and processes being  asked to stop.
[22:01] <rena_> Thank you wxl . I had to check what a RTkernel is all about. I had never heard of it. Why do you say it would help me out? Maybe my system specs are too low for the traditional kernel :-P
[22:02] <anarkhos> right now im gonna see if i can avoid the suspend problem by issuing the command from the command-line environment without having x in the background
[22:02] <phillw> you can do the same on boot up.
[22:02] <wxl> rena_: the real time kernel will reduce latency which is what those over runs are likely about. low memory doesn't help either.
[22:02] <wxl> brb
[22:02] <anarkhos> phillw: thanks, didn't know that
[22:04] <rena_> comics_idees: as far as I know, firefox tends to be slower with flash and a bit heavier on the system because it uses a system plugin. On the contrary, chrome is shipped with its own flash plugin, which makes it a bit faster. Maybe you could try reinstall it to see if it gets fixed
[22:05] <anarkhos> no, this didn't work either. still not resuming after suspend. is it just a matter of Intel GMA500 poulsbo being incompatible with the suspend feature?
[22:06] <rena_> wxl: Oh, so that's a latency complaint. Maybe that's why notifications in the other OS (MEPIS 11) get the sound delayed by about 5s. But on Lubuntu I get the sound pretty much at the right time, I was just curious and a bit annoyed at the logs that keep getting filled up with those Over Run entries
[22:08] <rena_> wxl: The pc has about 704MB RAM (1x512+1x256) but it's shared memory (-64MB for video)
[22:11] <rena_> anarkhos: I get issues with resuming too. And after changing the settings in power manager they don't seem to work because the power manager doesn't get loaded at start up, at least in my case, so when I hit the closed lid button, the thing keeps suspending (into a non recoverable suspension) and not doing what I had set (Do nothing aka just turn off screen)
[22:12] <anarkhos> rena_: ok. im just unable to resume after suspend
[22:12] <anarkhos> rena_: Intel GMA500 Poulsbo
[22:17] <anarkhos> phillw: ahh, on boot-up too
[22:18] <anarkhos> phillw: but ive already removed "quiet" from the kernel boot line, so it's probably redundant to hit ESC during boot?
[23:00] <rena_> On my lubuntu the power manager settings don't matter if I don't start manually the power manager app. The app won't auto-start by default. For example if I hit the power button, in the settings I have to ask what to do, but if the app is not running it will simply shutdown
[23:36] <anarkhos> wxl: you there?