[07:28] <willcooke> hello non-French/living in France desktoppers
[07:29] <seb128> good morning desktopers
[07:29] <seb128> hey willcooke
[07:29] <willcooke> holiday fail *again*?
[07:29] <willcooke> ;p
[07:29] <seb128> I'm swapping this one
[07:30] <willcooke> ah, nice plan
[07:30] <seb128> weather is not nice today, going to change for one of the sunny day we should get in a week or so
[07:30] <willcooke> sweet!!
[07:30]  * willcooke steals that idea
[08:02] <Laney> hey hey happy friday!
[08:02] <willcooke> yayayaya
[08:03] <seb128> hey Laney, happy friday!
[08:07]  * Laney plays Launchpad /dev/null whack a mole some more
[08:09] <seb128> Laney, you got new teams and new spam coming with those?
[08:09] <Laney> yeah I got added to ubuntuone-client-engineering
[08:09] <Laney> which is a member of about 10,000 other teams
[08:10] <Laney> https://launchpad.net/~ubuntuone-client-engineering/+participation
[08:18]  * seb128 shakes fist at mterry and bregma, how am I supposed to access my unity8 session with the auth not working
[08:24] <willcooke> seb128, is that the bug which got fixed which we were using as a work around?
[08:25] <seb128> yes
[08:28] <Laney> how inconsiderate
[08:29] <seb128> bah, I tried to change the auth type to swipe in u-s-s from an unity7 session
[08:29] <seb128> but unity8 lock screen still seems to hang :/
[08:30] <Laney> does this stuff work on phone?
[08:31] <seb128> same with autologin
[08:31] <seb128> woot, works after a reboot
[08:31] <seb128> yes
[08:31] <seb128> not sure what is different on desktop
[08:31] <Laney> ._.
[08:31] <seb128> mterry said he needs to deal with rtm problems before looking at it
[09:10] <seb128> popey, hey, is that "u-s-s is using cpu" specific to the updates panel?
[09:12] <popey> seb128: not sure, mine is usually left on the updates panel as my workflow is usually "see if there's any updates before bed", happy to test over the weekend leaving it overnight in various other screens.
[09:13] <seb128> popey, that would be useful, thanks
[09:13] <popey> ok
[09:13] <popey> seems okay on #189 last night though.
[09:13] <popey> maybe it was a full moon
[09:14] <willcooke> :)
[09:14] <willcooke> popey, you're saying werewolves are using your phone while you sleep?
[09:15] <popey> Yes. That's exactly what I'm saying.
[09:16] <willcooke> lay off the cough syrup man.
[10:56] <Sweetsha1k> seb128: sooo, the build in https://launchpad.net/~bjoern-michaelsen/+archive/libreoffice-staging-proposed a/ hotpatched the subsequentcheck dependencies b/ fixed bug 1354557 c/ merged up to what is in Debian now (needed some extra tweaks for our extra themes)
[10:57] <Sweetsha1k> seb128: I will put a nicely colored ribbon around it and upload the source package for sponsoring on p.c.c today.
[10:57] <seb128> Sweetsha1k, great, ready for sponsoring?
[10:57] <seb128> nice
[10:58] <seb128> did you see my email reply about http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/proposed-migration/update_excuses.html#libreoffice
[10:58] <seb128> libreoffice-subsequentcheckbase/i386 unsatisfiable Depends: gcc-
[10:58] <Sweetsha1k> seb128: thats what I ment with a/ ;)
[10:59] <seb128> oh, ok
[11:00] <Sweetsha1k> seb128: we autogenerate subsequentcheckbase deps from libreoffice source build-deps and some dark voodoo of sed and awk. its ugly, but its somehow the least insane thing to do ...
[11:00] <seb128> yeah, I'm glad I can stay away from that
[11:01] <seb128> if you say your change resolve the issue, good enough for me
[11:01] <seb128> ;-)
[11:01]  * Sweetsha1k howls at the moonlight and eats a cookie with mustard.
[12:12] <Laney> seb128: did you review the gnome-desktop/u-c-c/u-s-d MRs from robert_ancell yet?
[12:16] <Sweetsha1k> seb128: http://people.canonical.com/~bjoern/utopic/4.3.0/libreoffice_4.3.0-3ubuntu1_source.changes http://people.canonical.com/~bjoern/utopic/4.3.0/libreoffice-l10n_4.3.0-3ubuntu1_source.changes
[12:32] <seb128> Laney, yes, looks fine, but I can't say I read everything in details, the approach/change look fine though
[12:32] <seb128> Sweetsha1k, k
[13:03] <seb128> mterry, hey, do you have any recommendation of workaround to log into unity8 desktop?
[13:03] <seb128> mterry, ignore that, works after a reboot (I changed the auth to swipe using u-s-s in an unity7 session)
[13:04] <mterry> seb128, aha, good
[13:04] <mterry> seb128, the only other way would be a super hacky suggestion of pointing at the mock plugins for authentication, but that would end up mocking more than you wanted
[13:05] <seb128> mterry, well, I would have taken a "change that property in some qml"
[13:05] <mterry> seb128, note that swipe means your user has no password
[13:05] <seb128> but swipe works so at least I can access the session
[13:05] <mterry> seb128, ah if we can edit qml then sure  :)  I could find some lines to get rid of it
[13:06] <seb128> mterry, yeah, I don't care, that's a test machine where I do fresh installs and only have a dump "ubuntu" user
[13:06] <mterry> seb128, cool
[13:06] <seb128> mterry, well, we still need to fix the issue, but at least that unblocks me for local work
[13:06] <mterry> seb128, pfft, I'm hearing "don't bother Mike, low priority"
[13:06] <seb128> mterry, yeah, you only got an email about the sabdfl about it, right? ;-)
[13:07] <mterry> heh
[13:07] <seb128> ups
[13:07] <seb128> from*
[13:07] <mterry> Yeah, but you probably just put him up to it :)
[13:19] <lullis> Hi, all. I have a few questions regarding (I think) lightdm customization. Basically, I am working on a system that needs to provide remote authentication. And to do that, the user needs to be able to (1) set up the network connection and (2) be able to also "register" directly on the greeter screen.
[13:22] <lullis> I was looking at the current greeters for lightdm, and none offers the possibility of setting up the network. Also by checking the docs, it looks like lightdm offer account/session info, but no integration with network manager.
[13:37] <seb128> lullis, hey, those are statement rather than questions?
[13:49] <attente_> seb128, hey
[13:49] <seb128> attente_, hey
[13:49] <attente_> how's it going?
[13:49] <willcooke> hi attente_
[13:49] <attente_> hi willcooke
[13:49] <seb128> attente_, good! you?
[13:49] <attente_> i'm good :)
[13:50] <attente_> seb128, do you have time today to try out the ppa?
[13:51] <seb128> attente_, sure can
[13:51] <attente_> it's this one here: https://launchpad.net/~fcitx-team/+archive/ubuntu/fcitx-transition
[13:52] <attente_> you'll also have to set your framework with 'im-config -n fcitx'
[13:52] <seb128> k, so upgrade from the ppa, do the im-config thing ... I guess install fcitx-(something)? then restart session?
[13:53] <seb128> should give me an empty im list but I can add some back from ucc?
[13:53] <attente_> yeah, you'll need some engines as well like fcitx-sunpinyin
[13:53] <attente_> it should hopefully not break any setup you currently have
[13:53] <attente_> but then you can go into the region panel and start adding fcitx input sources
[14:05] <seb128> attente_, 你好
[14:05] <attente_> seb128, 你好 :)
[14:06] <seb128> attente_, so, my chinese (pinyin) got off the list, which I guess was expected since it's an ibus one
[14:06] <seb128> adding the fcitx one worked, though a bit confusing due to the name which is "sunpinyin"
[14:07] <seb128> not "Chinese (pinyin)", so if you search for "Chin" you don't get it listed
[14:07] <seb128> I've 2 indicators as well
[14:07] <seb128> but otherwise things seem to work
[14:07] <attente_> seb128, we're still transitioning for the indicators
[14:07] <seb128> k
[14:07] <attente_> ideally once we can get the correct changes for the fcitx one, we can hide i-keyboard in the session
[14:08] <seb128> right
[14:08] <attente_> seb128, the ppa uses the fcitx change that i talked about in the email, using the one from archive makes it easy for gsettings and fcitx to fall out of sync
[14:08] <seb128> well, otherwise things seem to work, I can cycle using keyboard and type chinese
[14:09] <seb128> k
[14:10] <attente_> cool, thanks for trying it seb128!
[14:10] <seb128> attente_, yw!
[14:12] <attente_> seb128, can we start by merging i-keyboard and u-s-d changes in? it shouldn't affect users while they're using ibus
[14:12] <seb128> attente_, yes
[14:12] <seb128> let me look at those reviews now
[14:13] <willcooke> seb128, attente_ - I was speaking to stephaneverdy yesterday about Pinyin support in the dash.  So as I understand it, it doesnt work atm and we would need the "database" to searchable in Pinyin as well as native Chinese character set. e.g. you type in the first, say, 2 characters in Pinyin and get results.  I /think/ this doesnt work atm, presumably because we'd need everything translated in to Pinyin?
[14:14] <attente_> so like typing 'nihao' would also match '你好'?
[14:14] <willcooke> yeah, that's what I think they're getting at
[14:14] <seb128> willcooke, isn't "pinyin" an input method? e.g a way to get chinese glyphs from typing azerty text?
[14:14] <seb128> right, what attente_ said
[14:15] <attente_> would that be a libcolumbus thing?
[14:15] <seb128> that would be something for the Unity team
[14:15] <seb128> not sure, is libcolumbus used in the dash?
[14:15] <attente_> or a desktop file indexing thing?
[14:15] <willcooke> seb128, well - that's what I thought, but from a bit of reading Pinyin is kinda like another language - like the equivalent roman "word" for a Chinese phrase
[14:15] <seb128> or only the hud?
[14:16] <qengho> seb128: I'm closer on the chromium x86/U crashes. Newer release didn't fix it.
[14:16] <seb128> qengho, k, do you have any workaround meanwhile?
[14:17] <willcooke> seb128, attente_ I'll tidy up the requirements and get back to you
[14:17] <qengho> seb128: Yes! Don't have x86.
[14:17] <seb128> willcooke, thanks, but as said, it seems like an unity feature, so for bregma's team rather than ours
[14:17] <qengho> Ha ha
[14:17] <willcooke> seb128, ack
[14:17] <willcooke> seb128, and tbh, that's probably all I need to know for now
[14:17] <seb128> willcooke, we handle input methods/configuring those and using them, but the feature there is word matching in the unity dash
[14:17] <willcooke> bregma, I'll get more infos and we can chat
[14:18] <seb128> k
[14:18] <bregma> willcooke, is this the Unity 8 dash or the Unity 7 Dash?
[14:18] <willcooke> bregma, U7 I reckon.  Sounds like a /lot/ of work
[14:19] <willcooke> well, both actually
[14:19] <seb128> bregma, speaking of the topic, we are looking at making fcitx default for chinese in Ubuntu, do you know what's the status of the dash with fcitx?
[14:21] <bregma> far as I know, there is an fcitx IM for ibus, it should just work, but I'll ask bschaefer when he gets in
[14:22] <bregma> willcooke, is there any idea what the matter with the existing pinyin IM might be?
[14:23] <willcooke> bregma, I think the IM works, but that we don't index the content in the right way(?) so that you don't get results if you search in pinyin
[14:23] <willcooke> bregma, I need to speak to Stephane a bit more are really understand the requirement/problem.
[14:23] <bregma> oh, so nothing to do with the IM, it's the search engine that is lacking proper l10n
[14:23] <willcooke> ah, actually, JackYu probably could have told us... he might be back
[14:23] <attente_> i think seb128 is talking about the candidate window not being placed in the proper position
[14:24] <willcooke> bregma, ah - yes that sounds more likely
[14:24] <bregma> attente_, OK, I believe that is a known problem, bschaefer will have more info
[14:25] <seb128> bregma, attente_, yeah, apparently there is an issue than the dash supports xim only, which means the "candidate" ui doesn't move with the cursor if you use fcitx, happyaron said brandon had a branch to improve things but that never landed
[14:41] <willcooke> be afraid.  I'm cloning stuff from Git and compiling from source.  Expect questions seb128 :D
[14:41] <seb128> lol
[14:41] <lullis> Sorry seb128, had to leave mid-explanation here. My question is: would it be possible to take an existing greeter and customize it to have things like a network applet?
[14:41] <seb128> lullis, unity-greeter has nm-applet
[14:42] <seb128> but "yes", you can also change a greeter or write your own one
[14:42] <lullis> Ok, I didn't get to find the nm-applet in the unity greeter.
[14:43] <lullis> Next, for the harder part. Would it possible to add a custom applet just by configuration? In my case, I need to have some sort of "register user" applet.
[14:44] <seb128> not sure if the unity-greeter supports that
[14:44] <seb128> robert_ancell or mterry would be better persons to ask about that one
[14:45] <Laney> How did the remote desktop thingy work?
[14:45] <Laney> That added a custom entry to the greeter
[14:45] <mterry> lullis, yes...  there's a gsettings key for which indicators to load in the greeter
[14:46] <mterry> lullis, you have to set that key for the lightdm user
[14:47] <lullis> Ah, that is awesome. So if I understand you, I just need to take a look at my existing code and make an indicator applet?
[14:48] <seb128> Laney, I seemed to remember that as well, which is why I mentioned mterry :-)
[14:49] <seb128> mterry, thanks
[14:50] <mterry> lullis, yeah, just make an indicator and set the gsettings value to include your new indicator
[14:51] <lullis> And this is exclusive to unity-greeter?
[14:57] <seb128> kenvandine, hey
[14:57] <seb128> kenvandine, the updates panel is a mess, I'm pondering just redoing the UI using a column rather those dynamic anchors and heights
[14:57] <kenvandine> seb128, i think that is a fine idea :)
[14:58] <seb128> kenvandine, k, should I just mark those mps are wip then?
[14:58] <kenvandine> yes please
[14:58] <kenvandine> if you can rework it
[14:58] <kenvandine> that would be great
[14:58] <seb128> kenvandine, btw I kicked a new CI run for https://code.launchpad.net/~seb128/ubuntu-system-settings/update-flickable-workaround/+merge/230943 , that one might be worth landing meanwhile (not sure why on test failed though, works locally)
[14:58] <kenvandine> it is a mess
[14:59] <seb128> right
[14:59] <kenvandine> ok
[14:59] <seb128> I'm going to do that next week
[14:59] <kenvandine> lets see if CI passes
[14:59] <kenvandine> great
[15:01] <willcooke> bah - my compile fails, because libsystemd-daemon-dev is v. 204 and I need 208.  Looks like I should try again on Utopic
[15:02]  * willcooke is playing with Miracle cast
[15:23] <seb128> happyaron, could you review https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ibus-anthy/+bug/1355141 next week?
[16:00] <seb128> ok, calling it a week
[16:00] <seb128> have a nice w.e everyone!
[16:00] <seb128> see you on monday
[16:01] <Laney> see you!
[16:08] <willcooke> bye s... oh too late.
[16:38] <willcooke> right, I'm EODing as well.  Have a great weekend y'all.  See you on Monday
[17:04] <Laney> and me. laters potaters.
[17:05] <Sweetsha1k> can anyone give me a trusty target for libreoffice (ubuntu) on bug 1319941?
[17:08] <qengho> Sweetsha1k: a "target"?
[17:13] <dobey> Sweetsha1k: can't you just nominate it for trusty?
[17:25] <Sweetsha1k> dobey: eh, seems I can. Last time I aimed for that I was not the right one of lp bazzillions groups for that IIRC.
[17:36] <dobey> Sweetsha1k: anyone can nominate a bug for an ubuntu release. but only certain groups can approve the nominations