| IdleOne | thank you whoever removed +r | 00:47 |
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| Pricey | hggdh: Sorted? | 07:43 |
| hggdh | Pricey: not yet... | 10:48 |
| hggdh | so, can you please +Ff to me: #ubuntu-br, #ubuntu-br-dev, #ubuntu-br-doc, #ubuntu-br-meeting, and #ubuntu-br-tradutores? Thank you | 10:49 |
| Pricey | hggdh: Can you double check that list please? | 10:53 |
| hggdh | Pricey: checked. All of them need to be brought into compliance | 10:56 |
| Pricey | hggdh: Can you triple check please? | 10:58 |
| Pricey | hggdh: Specifically the last 3 | 10:58 |
| hggdh | Pricey: bah. Consequence of not having had coffee yet. At least, this is my gateway. | 11:02 |
| hggdh | Pricey: -br, -br-dev, -br-doc | 11:02 |
| * hggdh goes AFK for the next few hours | 11:04 | |
| tsimpson | so, anyone on the council doing anything to bring the -uds-* channels in-line with our guidelines and/or migrate to -uos-*? | 11:04 |
| Pricey | hggdh: Still doesn't look right.. | 11:05 |
| Pricey | hggdh: I'll transfer two, let me know if something else needs doing.. | 11:06 |
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| bazhang | I'm not a bot. | 13:43 |
| bazhang | beep | 13:43 |
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| Beldar | hey I believe robothead is a bot no answers or comments but has ircbot in it's info | 18:53 |
| Unit193 | Not as likely, irssi. | 18:56 |
| knome | it wouldn't be too weird to run an irssi instance as a bot :) | 18:57 |
| Pici | thats what ubuntulog is. | 18:57 |
| Unit193 | I know, I've kind of done it. | 18:57 |
| Unit193 | Yep, ollld irssi IIRC. | 18:57 |
| knome | me too. | 18:57 |
| ubottu | MonkeyDust called the ops in #ubuntu () | 20:08 |
| Pici | That was something. | 20:09 |
| genii | Most of em from the same IP | 20:09 |
| Flannel | All the same IP, yeah. | 20:09 |
| tomaw | klined a fair bit of it | 20:10 |
| rww | thanks tomaw | 20:11 |
| tomaw | this is a person that has a more than a few things that skip through the proxy checkers | 20:11 |
| IdleOne | how come I have pastry on | 20:11 |
| rww | because you opped up 22 hours ago and never deopped | 20:12 |
| rww | assuming my /lastlog is not misleading me | 20:12 |
| IdleOne | sounds about right | 20:12 |
| IdleOne | I have a feeling you're either going to ban him or i will | 20:15 |
| bazhang | was that chippyleet? | 20:18 |
| IdleOne | no idea | 20:18 |
| Flannel | This is going to be fun -_- | 20:21 |
| marvin-hh | Can anyone explain what you have against freedom of speech? | 20:23 |
| rww | ubottu: freedom of speech | 20:24 |
| ubottu | rww: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :) | 20:24 |
| rww | of course not | 20:24 |
| rww | ubottu: freedomofspeech | 20:24 |
| marvin-hh | If Canonical would simply build a working operating system in the first place, I wouldn't have to point out its flaws. | 20:24 |
| rww | now where did it go | 20:24 |
| Flannel | marvin-hh: First off, there's no such thing on IRC. | 20:24 |
| Flannel | !freespeech | 20:24 |
| ubottu | Please don't pepper the channel with cries of buzzwords like "free speech!", especially when you don't know what they mean or if they're applicable to the current situation. See http://tonyyarusso.com/politics/what-free-speech-isnt for more information. | 20:24 |
| Flannel | rww: that's what you're looking for. | 20:24 |
| rww | thanks Flannel | 20:25 |
| rww | ubottu: freedomofspeech is <alias> freespeech | 20:25 |
| ubottu | I'll remember that, rww | 20:25 |
| rww | ubottu: freedom of speech is <alias> freespeech | 20:25 |
| ubottu | I'll remember that, rww | 20:25 |
| marvin-hh | Flannel: so, what is #ubuntu then? An alias for #bunchofnazis? | 20:26 |
| Flannel | marvin-hh: So, look. I'm going to save us all some time by just giving it to your straight. | 20:26 |
| Flannel | Also, save you some grief, since I think the sooner we're done, the less deep of a hole you're going to have put yourself in. | 20:26 |
| marvin-hh | The only thing I have done is told someone that upgrading in its current state is a bad idea. | 20:27 |
| marvin-hh | There is plenty of documented proof for that. | 20:27 |
| Flannel | marvin-hh: Yes, warning people about potential problems is on topic. However your tone was not appropriate. Given the fact that you were previously walking a line, your leash was temporarily shorter. | 20:27 |
| marvin-hh | The only thing I can think of which remains is that you want to actually damage the interests of users. | 20:27 |
| Flannel | After you were removed, you came back and were still indignant, which is why you were removed so we can have this discussion in here. | 20:28 |
| rww | The only secret motive we have here is keeping #ubuntu free of axe-grinding so that people can actually get useful support. | 20:28 |
| Flannel | Now, your discussion in here started off on the wrong foot, which is why your ban won't be resolved at this time. | 20:28 |
| rww | Flannel and I especially do not care one whit for Canonical's reputation or other such nonsense. | 20:28 |
| marvin-hh | I asked a question in #ubuntu about Xorg and nobody answered. | 20:28 |
| chu | Patience is a virtue! | 20:29 |
| marvin-hh | So, whatever *you* were doing wasn't support. | 20:29 |
| Flannel | When you've cooled off a bit, and can discuss this like a normal person, I'm eager to get your ban resolved, but I'm going to give you at least 12 hours to cool off, so please come back "tomorrow". | 20:29 |
| rww | That happens sometimes, yes. Since #ubuntu is community-staffed, sometimes people do not know everything. | 20:29 |
| rww | @btlogin | 20:29 |
| marvin-hh | This has nothing to do with not knowing everything; the Xorg issues have existed since at least 2012 judging from a quick Google. | 20:29 |
| marvin-hh | This means that if there is a community, its power is virtually zero. | 20:30 |
| marvin-hh | Its power to effect change in the world, that is. | 20:30 |
| rww | Okay. You're welcome to look for support elsewhere in addition to #ubuntu if you don't personally find #ubuntu useful. | 20:30 |
| rww | http://community.ubuntu.com/help-information/ has links to various places. | 20:30 |
| marvin-hh | I don't think you should be calling yourself a community, if you aren't one. | 20:31 |
| marvin-hh | What makes you believe it's actually a community? | 20:31 |
| chu | We'll take your opinion into account in the future. | 20:31 |
| marvin-hh | Do you have any events? Are there strong social connections amongst its members? | 20:31 |
| marvin-hh | If so, how many? | 20:31 |
| marvin-hh | Do you measure those? | 20:31 |
| Flannel | marvin-hh: Again, nothing is going to get resolved right now, so please stop this discussion and when you come back later, we'll work to resolve your ban. | 20:31 |
| rww | marvin-hh: I don't think anyone in here is particularly interested in philosophical musings about whether #ubuntu-* is a community or not. Are you looking to resolve your ban so you can get back in #ubuntu, or not? | 20:31 |
| rww | ah, I guess we're setting that aside for a bit anyway. So yes, what Flannel said. | 20:32 |
| marvin-hh | If not, aren't you just saying a bunch of things without anything to back it up? | 20:32 |
| marvin-hh | Do you do this often? | 20:32 |
| knome | marvin-hh, please stop the nonsense and stop wasting everybody's time here. | 20:32 |
| marvin-hh | I am asking simple questions here. If you cannot even answer those, why would I believe in this "community"? If you say that there is a large group of self-interested individuals and or companies which might or might not use Ubuntu then that might be true, but that doesn't make it a community. | 20:33 |
| Flannel | marvin-hh: Whether we can or cannot answer these questions, no one is going to answer them currently. Come back later after cooling off. See you then. | 20:33 |
| knome | marvin-hh, this is the wrong forum to ask those questions. | 20:33 |
| marvin-hh | knome: the right forum is the wind? | 20:34 |
| Pici | Perhaps this would be better if one person dealt with the questions.... like Flannel here. | 20:34 |
| * rww nods and steps back | 20:34 | |
| marvin-hh | All I am seeing you do is evading questions. | 20:34 |
| marvin-hh | Not exactly convincing for your position. | 20:34 |
| Flannel | marvin-hh: I am ignoring questions, beacuse they're not going to be answered right now. Come back later once you've cleared your head and we'll get your ban resolved. | 20:35 |
| marvin-hh | Anyway, you have had your chance. | 20:35 |
| Flannel | marvin-hh: See you later. | 20:35 |
| marvin-hh | Flannel: DJones removed my ban, because he considered me to be a reasonable person. | 20:35 |
| marvin-hh | Flannel: well a +q. | 20:36 |
| marvin-hh | Flannel: as such, you are now in direct contradiction with him. | 20:36 |
| marvin-hh | Flannel: so, have fun sorting that out. | 20:36 |
| marvin-hh | DJones: see above. | 20:36 |
| Flannel | marvin-hh: Will do. Talk to you later. | 20:36 |
| marvin-hh | Flannel: I sure hope not. You are a very boring person, if you are in fact one. | 20:36 |
| chu | lol | 20:36 |
| marvin-hh | Flannel: you sound like a badly programmed bot. | 20:36 |
| rww | I can confirm that Flannel is a human :) | 20:37 |
| marvin-hh | Nothing personal, just a fact. I bet you hear that often. | 20:37 |
| Flannel | Yes, I am. You've got me. Now, have a nice day, and we'll see you soon. | 20:37 |
| marvin-hh | There is nothing left for me to say to you. | 20:38 |
| rww | Okay. Have a nice day, and please /part to keep the channel free for other issues. | 20:38 |
| marvin-hh | Flannel: you basically said that my, I quote, "tone", was not appropriate. | 20:39 |
| marvin-hh | You really have a hard time with constructing an argument, don't you? | 20:39 |
| rww | oh for pete's sake | 20:39 |
| Flannel | marvin-hh: I did say your tone was inappropriate, yes. That's why you're not in #ubuntu right now. | 20:39 |
| marvin-hh | I recommend you do some training in forming arguments. | 20:39 |
| rww | @mark #ubuntu-ops marvin-hh failed to resolve #ubuntu ban, asked to return when clear-headed by Flannel, failed to take hints about leaving; kicked; rejoined; banned for a few minutes | 20:40 |
| ubottu | The operation succeeded. | 20:40 |
| rww | (hopefully he got the point) | 20:43 |
| Pici | ikonia: was a ban needed for that? | 20:45 |
| ikonia | yes | 20:45 |
| ikonia | picking up where he left off in ops | 20:45 |
| ikonia | there is zero need for the utter crap he's spewing to kick off in ANY other channel | 20:45 |
| Flannel | ikonia: No, he picked up from where he left off in #u | 20:45 |
| ikonia | no, he really didn't | 20:46 |
| Flannel | yeah, we went back to graphics "support" | 20:46 |
| ikonia | "please provide proof before pressing enter" | 20:46 |
| ikonia | he's just being a tool | 20:46 |
| ikonia | you want to try to negotiate with him - enjoy | 20:46 |
| ikonia | there is zero real discussion with him | 20:46 |
| * rww goes afk | 20:46 | |
| Flannel | ikonia: Sorry, you made this bed. Banning everyone you don't like is not an appropriate policy. | 20:47 |
| ikonia | what bed ? | 20:47 |
| ikonia | it's nothing to do with not liking him | 20:47 |
| IdleOne | So I set the ban I placed in #ubuntu to expire in 7 days. Flannel if you want to adjust that feel free | 20:55 |
| ubottu | OerHeks called the ops in #ubuntu () | 21:05 |
| Pici | lag | 21:05 |
| Pici | ty | 21:05 |
| genii | It makes me sort of sad to see it was some .fi there | 21:07 |
| k1l | there are idiots everwhere, so dont get too sad for your country. | 21:07 |
| bazhang | that was insane | 21:07 |
| bazhang | genii is FINNISH? | 21:08 |
| chu | Nah, he's Canadian. But this is IRC, and everyone on IRC loves all things Finnish. | 21:09 |
| bazhang | I thought canadien | 21:09 |
| bazhang | ah phew | 21:09 |
| k1l | everyone likes vodka and so likes finnland :) | 21:09 |
| bazhang | yet the finns go to .ru for cheap vodka | 21:10 |
| hggdh | Pricey: yes indeed my fault. Sorry | 22:08 |
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