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brendandubuntu-qa - review my fix for camera-app tests: https://code.launchpad.net/~brendan-donegan/camera-app/location_prompt_disable/+merge/23096114:28
robotfuelbrendand: I'll review14:29
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robotfuelbrendand: It seems like _set_location_service_testing should be placed in a helper so ux tests can use it.14:34
brendandrobotfuel, you mean a helper in camera-app?14:35
robotfuelbrendand: yes, I assume there is one.14:36
robotfuelbrendand: if there isn't we should make one to put stuff like that in it.14:36
brendandrobotfuel, i kind of feel like we're starting to need a package that contains helpers which don't belong to a specific app, or are generally useful14:43
brendandrobotfuel, trying to shoehorn them into the 'appropriate package' is painful and not even that obvious14:43
brendandrobotfuel, maybe i'll bring it up with thomi :)14:44
robotfuelbrendand: I think those should go in the ubuntu-uitoolkit-autopilot package. We should talk to elopio and thomi about it on monday.14:44
robotfuelbrendand: the helper should also have tests. so we know it's the helper breaking and not something in the test.14:47
robotfuelbrendand: do you want me to make my comments in the MP?14:47
brendandrobotfuel, the ci folks are really desperate for this fix - the helper itself is already tested as such - if it breaks then all the tests will fail14:49
robotfuelbrendand: I don't think the test for a helper will take a long time to write, I can propose a mp with some simple test for that if you want.14:51
brendandrobotfuel, if you think you can whip one up quickly then ok, but as i said - if the purpose of the test it to make sure it can't land when the helper is broken, well - that's already the case14:52
brendandrobotfuel, i don't see what a test would do beyond starting the app14:52
robotfuelbrendand: the helper is broken? can we do a quick hangout?14:53
brendandrobotfuel, no :) i mean it's already the case that if the helper breaks the tests will fail14:56
brendandrobotfuel, it works right now of course14:57
robotfuelbrendand: okay that makes sense thanks :D.  I think we decided to make sure that all the helpers have tests awhile back.14:59
robotfuelbrendand: if location service doesn't work on an image that helper test has a chance of blocking the image for promotion.  the platform-api's unit tests are in a sad state.15:02
brendandrobotfuel, i'm not really objecting to having a test for it - just that i don't see it being that useful really15:09
brendandrobotfuel, we can have a quick hangout if you want me to explain15:09
robotfuelbrendand: sure do you want to meet in the ux hangout15:16
brendandrobotfuel, yeah15:21
brendandrobotfuel, can't hear you now15:25
brendandrobotfuel, dropped again15:31
brendandrobotfuel, i'll talk to tvoss about how to query the location service15:33
deepubuntuIs this the place for newbies??15:33
brendandrobotfuel, but as i said, we can't really block on that - we'd only be harming our selves by hiding failures in the camera-app15:34
brendanddeepubuntu, it's the place for everyone15:37
deepubuntu1okay15:42
deepubuntu1so I want to know about how can I contribute for ubuntu15:43
deepubuntu1I am a open source enthusiastic and contributing for mozilla15:43
deepubuntu1brendand:15:43
deepubuntu1??15:47
brendanddeepubuntu1, balloons is your spirit guide in the world of ubuntu :)15:49
deepubuntu1brendand: sorry but I am not getting you15:51
brendanddeepubuntu1, balloons is a person15:51
brendanddeepubuntu1, hopefully he's around15:51
brendanddeepubuntu1, there are many things you can do but balloons knows best15:52
deepubuntu1balloons: when you come back please ping me15:52
deepubuntu1brendand: you can give me overview if you want15:52
deepubuntu1:)15:52
brendanddeepubuntu1, what do you do in the mozilla community?15:52
deepubuntu1I do lot of stuff there. I replies tweets and questions. I do testing and I also have resolves some bugs but I am not good in cooding yet15:53
deepubuntu1*coding15:53
deepubuntu1I don't think I can contribute much in coding with C and C++ brendand15:55
brendanddeepubuntu1, that's ok15:55
brendanddeepubuntu1, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/QATeam/Roles/Tester15:56
balloonsdeepubuntu1, hello.. you caught me as I'm off to lunch :-)15:58
deepubuntu1oh sorry to disturb you balloons15:58
deepubuntu1I hope you have taken lunch properly :)15:58
deepubuntu1well brendand gave me a great link thanks a lot but I want to know about structure and overview for contribution in ubuntu balloons16:01
deepubuntu1btw thanks again for the amazing link brendand :)16:01
balloonsdeepubuntu1, sure16:02
deepubuntu1:)16:02
balloonsdeepubuntu1, the link brendand gave is a great starting place16:02
balloons_Sorry about that.16:05
deepubuntu1its ok]16:05
deepubuntu1Is there any way to respond users on their quaries16:06
deepubuntu1ok I decided to contribute form the testing16:06
deepubuntu1so the link given by brendand is perfect16:06
deepubuntu1thanks a lot brendand and balloons  :D:D:D16:07
elfydeepubuntu1: if you want to help with support - there are 4 main avenues open - forum/mailing list/irc and askubuntu16:09
deepubuntu1oh please please tell me more about it elfy16:10
balloons_Sorry I keep dcing.16:11
elfywell the forum is http://ubuntuforums.org/ , mailing lists can be found https://lists.ubuntu.com/#Community+Support irc support is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/ChannelList and askbuntu.com16:11
elfythe first 3 are all official support avenues, askubuntu less so16:11
elfyballoons_: hi :)16:12
deepubuntu1well that was the link http://ubuntuforums.org/ I was searching for thanks elfy :)16:14
elfywelcome16:14
deepubuntu1:d16:14
deepubuntu1:D16:14
balloons_Thanks for filling in. I'll like drop again in a second :( anyways feel free to pm balloons and leave a way to contact you back like email if you still have questions. But I'm guessing elfy Will take care of you16:14
elfydeepubuntu1: if you've not got an account there PLEASE read the notices you'll see there and if you do get an issue come see me in #ubuntuforums16:15
elfydeepubuntu1: but a lot of people - like me - do some of each, so I do QA and support and a few other things16:15
elfydo what takes your fancy - enjoy doing it or do something else - we don't get paid :)16:16
deepubuntu1well I really don't won't anything that's why I am here16:16
deepubuntu1hoping to learn somthing16:16
deepubuntu1and this is all what I get16:16
elfyI'd start with testing, that's as easy as getting iso's and following written instructions16:17
deepubuntu1and yes sure I will ping balloons and balloons_ and elfy and brendand if I need help. Can I :D16:17
elfyjoin the forum and askubuntu - read things people are wanting help with - that's how I learnt :)16:17
elfyboth testing and low level support are really important16:18
deepubuntu1yes because I don't have to do much there just install developing version and use as normal way and if i face trouble report it. this is my job?16:18
elfythat sounds about right :)16:19
deepubuntu1yes actually I think my contribution in mozilla testing will help me here too16:20
deepubuntu1and this is what I earn from contributing and for sure I will get something here too16:20
elfyI run the dev version from about week #1 till release16:20
deepubuntu1dev version okay16:20
deepubuntu1thanks a lot everyone foe helping me :)16:22
elfydeepubuntu1: the dev version being what we test in the main, currently that's October 2014's release16:22
elfyand you are most welcome :)16:22
deepubuntu1:D16:22
Nothing_MuchI think KVM/Qemu isn't working right for TestDrive17:05
Nothing_MuchIt won't allow me to install Ubuntu in a virtual drive17:05
average_guyI am having this problem too Nothing_Much17:26
average_guyBug #135262317:26
ubot5bug 1352623 in testdrive (Ubuntu) "testdrive creates no hdd visable to guest os with KVM" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/135262317:26
average_guyVirtualbox works great though17:27
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Nothing_Muchaverage_guy: yeah, though I need to reinstall vbox18:46
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Nothing_Muchaverage_guy: also, just wondering, do you know whether Ubuntu has drivers for KVM or not?18:49
average_guydrivers Nothing_Much? I used https://help.ubuntu.com/community/KVM/Installation18:51
ianorlinthe paravirtualized drivers?18:52
average_guyno paravirt w/KVM.  KVM=Full Virtualization I believe, need to read a bit.  I use virt-mgr sometimes but mostly vbox to OS test and QEMU to virtualize ppc arch http://leuchtfeuerfunk.wordpress.com/2014/08/03/permission-to-break-the-system-granted/19:01
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average_guykvm is easier if you are doing all cli19:04
average_guymaybe you want https://wiki.ubuntu.com/spice19:20
average_guyNothing_Much:19:20
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