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sarnoldI don't allow password access to my sshd00:00
sarnoldkeys only00:00
Matt3o12Why?00:00
sarnoldthere's just too many brute-forcers on the internet00:00
Matt3o12And.. what about the key or a password + a pam module (2 step authentication using google's authenticator)?00:01
sarnoldMatt3o12: I'm paranoid but also lazy :)00:02
Matt3o12So am I (that why I use 20 letter password, generated and almost unique)...But what do you think about a password + google authenticator. I may need to log into the server in school...00:03
sarnoldMatt3o12: some friends do use e.g. pam_duo, though. if it makes sense to you, go for it00:03
sarnoldMatt3o12: ah, using a machine you don't control? that's always iffy..00:03
Matt3o12Yeah, I know, that's why I have 2 user accounts (one with limited access)... But I just hate to work with windows and I sometimes need to use unix...00:06
Matt3o12Anyway. what is your opinion about 2FA instead of a key.. I might lose it any booting the server with init=/bin/sh is really what I want to do least...00:08
sarnoldif I had to use passwords I'd definitely use 2fa00:09
Matt3o12Ok...00:09
Matt3o12How can I su into root once I removed the password.00:09
sarnoldsudo -s00:10
Matt3o12One last thing: what's the difference between sudo -i and sudo -s ?00:15
sarnoldMatt3o12: sudo -i tries to act like you just logged in via getty or sshd; sudo -s just starts a shell with the right user privileges. e.g. -s doesn't change directories or goof around with environment variables..00:17
Matt3o12Ok. Thank you very much for your help :)00:19
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zartoosh__Hi which package install this directory: /boot/grub/x86_64-efi/    Thanks02:44
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TJ-zartoosh__: "apt-file search <file-name>" ... but I happen to know it's created by grub-install and gets copies of the GRUB modules from the package "grub-efi-amd64-bin" (/usr/lib/grub/x86_64-efi/)03:44
IcabashI haven't made any progress so far - x86 Ubuntu 14.04 install is stopping at "load debconf preconfigruation file" (I can still access the terminal with ctrl+alt+f2, though)03:54
IcabashWondering if I should try CentOS or Debian03:58
kernel13is there a way to generate preseed file from existing server03:59
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IcabashFigured out the problem - I was too impatient and didn't give the install enough time to proceed. (Although waiting for 2 hours seems a bit much for one step of the install)06:54
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poobuttat ssh login 14.04 says 7 Packages can be updated 7 Packages are security updates. But update/upgrade does nto install or find anyhting. reboot still shows this msg09:26
rbasakpoobutt: try "sudo apt-get dist-upgrade".09:56
poobuttrbasak: thanks this shows a headers upgrade i am actualy currently already on 14.04.1 LTS should i still go ahead with the dist-upgrade?10:10
rbasakpoobutt: pastebin the output please?10:10
poobuttpaste.ubuntu.com/805254010:12
rbasakpoobutt: that's just a kernel update. You probably want to take that. It has been issued for 14.04 users. "dist-upgrade" is needed to get kernel updates, since they use a metapackage that depends on a new kernel package.10:13
rbasakpoobutt: you'll need to reboot afterwards to boot the new kernel. Note that there is a (small) regression risk so you should be prepared to handle that.10:14
poobuttok thanks, going for it now10:15
poobuttrbasak: thanks worked and no more available update msg at log in, and on another note after pasting in paste.ubuntu.com hitting the back button in browser alows you to edit / add to paste never knew that b410:18
poobuttscratch that paste note.ubuntu.com comment it only does that in local browser it seems10:20
poobuttthats nice...10:31
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technocfWhere can I find a good tutorial for setting up an Ubuntu mail server with virtual mailboxes.  I've found some tutorials but they only go into setting up postfix, not all the other bits.11:48
technocfFound one11:54
obi12341technocf, https://www.exratione.com/2012/05/a-mailserver-on-ubuntu-1204-postfix-dovecot-mysql/11:56
technocfobi12341: Thanks, that's better than the one I found11:57
obi12341;)11:57
obi12341we used this tutorial for a really big customer, so this tutorial is proofen11:58
obi12341*proofed11:58
technocfGreat! Setting up my new company... we need emails. :P11:58
obi12341:P11:58
technocfSoon I should have ceo@deviotion.com11:59
technocfWhat do I do if the server is more than just mail?12:00
technocfIt says make the hostname  "mail."12:00
obi12341then just use the "normal" hostname without mail12:01
technocfok, I just wasn't sure12:01
technocfI followed the instructions word for word and https://mail.deviotion.com/postfixadmin/setup.php doesn't exist...12:14
technocfFixed it12:16
samba35i am trying to install wireless card (netgear wg311v3) with ndiswrapper after driver is installed when i run iwconfig its not able to detect card ,can you please tell me what could be wrong i am doing12:55
samba35i am trying this card with server and desktop with no luck12:55
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JoeyJoeJoI've got a new software raid 5 made out of 3 3TB drives, but it's showing up as 4TB. Shouldn't it be 5.4TB?13:09
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Kunzem1984Hi is there a easy way of checking which hdd in my raid 1 setup has block errors? I get "status: { DRDY ERR }" with lots of other errors in syslog . googled them and it seems hdd failure.14:03
rbasakcoreycb, jamespage, gnuoy, beisner, rharper, lutostag, smoser, hallyn: it's the scheduled time for another merge sprint now.14:06
rbasakWho is here and will attend, please?14:06
lutostaglutostag: cant for first hour, will join after that14:06
lutostaglol, rbasak ^^14:06
rbasakOK no problem, thanks.14:07
coreycbo/14:07
beisnerrbasak, elbow deep in a bug and an RT, need to wrap those up, will be joining biab14:07
rbasakOK beisner14:07
rbasakHi coreycb!14:08
coreycbrbasak, hi!14:08
* rbasak waits to see who else is here14:08
coreycbrbasak, is there any priority in which packages require merge?14:19
rbasakLet me take a look at the list as it stands today.14:20
hallynpad url?14:22
rbasakcoreycb: without looking at changelogs or if anybody else has taken it, so not considering complexity...14:22
hallyn(I'm merging qemu right now, but will look at anything blocked)14:22
rbasakhallyn: http://pad.ubuntu.com/server-team-merges14:22
hallynthx14:22
rbasakI'd say amavisd-new, maybe dovecot, exim4 (again! but may be OK after feature freeze), logwatch (possibly complex)...14:23
rbasakmod-wsgi may want a sync - version looks significant.14:23
rbasaknginx is in progress (me) but is important.14:24
rbasakMaybe openldap, but looks maybe complex14:24
rbasakThat's everything that stands out to me right now.14:24
rbasakEverything would be good, but I'd say those are the headline ones we probably want to do for server users.14:25
rbasakopenldap less so - few will probably run an LDAP server in production on Utopic.14:25
coreycbrbasak, cool thanks.  have an tips on determining priority in the future or does priority == most commonly used packages?14:26
rbasakcoreycb: very much a subjective judgement call. I'm going by my impression of how people use the server distribution, and what they will miss the most.14:26
hallynbtw, merge of slof, build failed.  probably a bug in the cross-compiler.14:26
coreycbrbasak, ok14:26
rbasakSo big version bump, or a small bump that indicates bugfixes that might be valuable.14:26
rbasakOr a package where I know that having the latest is important to the user demographic (eg. nginx)14:27
coreycbrbasak, thanks14:28
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j^whats the new way of creating a new vm for libvirt/kvm (vmbuilder kvm ubuntu --suite=trusty fails and lp lists some bugs that its deprecated, but could not find what replaces it)14:42
rbasakj^: https://help.ubuntu.com/14.04/serverguide/cloud-images-and-uvtool.html14:46
j^uvtool depends on avahi-daemon?14:47
rbasakNo, but it did use avahi-daemon in the guest in the past. What makes you think that?14:48
j^apt-get install uvtool wants to install avahi-daemon on my server14:48
rbasakWhich release?14:48
j^14.0414:49
PiciYou may need to use --no-install-recommends14:49
j^I upgraded that system from 12.04, was the default changed for install recommends?14:49
rbasakj^: ah, that's because uvtool-libvirt recommends libnss-mdns14:50
rbasakI should probably drop that recommendation, but you aren't required to follow it.14:50
rbasakI used to use libnss-mdns for IP address detection in the guest.14:50
rbasakWith avahi-daemon on the guest to publish it.14:51
rbasakI gave up on that though. It wasn't reliable enough. Instead I now parse the libvirt-specific dnsmasq's leases file.14:51
rbasakWhich is a hack, but it works reliably and by default at least.14:51
* rbasak has filed bug 135740014:52
uvirtbotLaunchpad bug 1357400 in uvtool "uvtool-libvirt unnecessarily recommends libnss-mdns" [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/135740014:52
j^https://help.ubuntu.com/14.04/serverguide/cloud-images-and-uvtool.html could mention where disk images are located. is there some way to specify this?15:17
j^whats the second disk image name-ds.qcow used for? it shows up as unformated emtpy disk15:19
j^uvt-simplestreams-libvirt purge looks dangerous, it also removes disks of running vms15:25
rbasakj^: see the manpage.15:25
rbasakThe second disk image is for the cloud-init data source15:26
rbasakIt passes in cloud-init userdata and metadata.15:26
rbasakuvt-simplestreams-libvirt purge *is* dangerous, and it says so in the manpage.15:26
rbasak--source can override the disk image source, but the source must publish metadata in the simplestreams format.15:27
rbasakThere are mirroring tools in the simplestreams packaging.15:27
j^saw that, if its removed does not matter, otherwise destroying running vms before deleting the images might be better though.15:27
rbasakI added to handle breakages during development.15:28
rbasakIt shouldn't ever be needed in production use. Destroying the VM removes running VMs before deleting the images.15:28
j^im just pushing all buttons to see what happens :)15:29
rbasak:)15:29
j^adding an --autostart option to create would be usefull but can also call virsh autostart $name after creating a new vm15:32
rbasakIIRC, it enables autostart by default.15:32
rbasakOh, perhaps not.15:33
rbasakj^: filed bug 1357420. Thanks!15:35
uvirtbotLaunchpad bug 1357420 in uvtool "VMs do not autostart" [Wishlist,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/135742015:35
Guest35236hey guys16:13
Guest35236im having an issue where a new build server (12.04) with nginx and openssl is reporting as vulnerable to heartbleed under nessus and nmap, but slightly less updated servers are not16:14
Guest35236does anyone know of any issues with the newest update?16:14
rbasakGuest35236: can you confirm your package versions of the relevant nginx and openssl packages?16:15
rbasakThe most common case asked here seems to be when packages aren't fully up to date.16:16
Guest35236root@dev-upload01:/etc/nagios# nginx -v16:16
Guest35236nginx version: nginx/1.1.1916:16
Guest35236root@dev-upload01:/etc/nagios# openssl version -a16:17
Guest35236OpenSSL 1.0.1 14 Mar 201216:17
rbasakNo, the *package* version.16:17
rbasakdpkg-query -W nginx16:17
rbasakdpkg-query -W nginx-core16:17
Guest35236nginx   1.1.19-1ubuntu0.616:17
rbasakdpkg-query -W libssl1.0.016:17
rbasaketc16:17
Guest35236libssl1.0.0     1.0.1-4ubuntu5.1716:17
rbasakOK it looks like you are indeed up to date. Thank you for confirming.16:18
rbasake version does not exhibit this behaviour?16:19
rbasakDo you know what package version does not exhibit this behaviour?16:19
Guest35236ok16:19
Guest35236hang on, ill have a look16:19
Guest35236libssl1.0.0     1.0.1-4ubuntu5.1216:20
Guest35236doesnt16:20
rbasakGuest35236: that's interesting, thanks.16:22
rbasakmdeslaur: ^^16:22
mdeslaurGuest35236: how is nessus determining it's vulnerable?16:23
Guest35236very good question lol16:23
Guest35236ill see if i can get a look at the plugin16:24
mdeslaurGuest35236: can you paste me the plugin somewhere?16:24
Guest35236the nmap script is more accessible16:24
rbasakI'll leave this to mdeslaur - thanks. It seems likely to be a false positive to me but probably worth checking.16:24
Guest35236https://svn.nmap.org/nmap/scripts/ssl-heartbleed.nse16:25
Guest35236thats the nmap script16:25
Guest35236yeah i think it must be as well16:25
RoyKGuest35236: commercial nessus, or old OSS nessus? If it's the latter, why not openvas? It should be a wee bit more updated16:25
Guest35236its just strange that other servers arent showing it16:25
Guest35236commercial nessus16:25
RoyKok16:26
Guest35236i just got a trial licence this morning16:26
RoyKGuest35236: try openvas16:26
Guest35236ive got that as well16:26
RoyKok16:26
Guest35236its not as pretty tbh16:26
Guest35236harder to sell to the boss :P16:26
RoyKGuest35236: it is? openvas is free :D16:26
Guest35236seems to do a better job than qualsys though16:26
Guest35236haha true16:26
Guest35236but wed probably have to get a support contract somewhere16:27
mdeslaurGuest35236: and what response did that script give?%16:27
RoyKGuest35236: what for?16:27
Guest35236ill get a pastie for you16:27
FishsceneGreetings. I'm running Ubuntu server 14.04 x64 and have set up an LTSP environment. I'm looking to update the i386 image, but when I run the commane "sudo ltsp-update-image —arch i386", it doesn't recognize the arch option. Multiple tutorials reference this command, but it appears the option was removed: http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/trusty/man8/ltsp-update-image.8.html  How do I update the i386 LTSP image?16:27
Guest35236the problem with openvas is that it uses CPEs to keep you updated on patch versions16:29
Guest35236which dont have the ubuntu versions of updates in them16:29
Guest35236so it throws up a lot of errors that have been fixed16:29
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Guest35236qualsys does the same thing i think16:30
patdk-wkany idea why the changelog is missing?16:31
patdk-wkhttp://changelogs.ubuntu.com/changelogs//main/o/openssl/openssl_1.0.1-4ubuntu5.17/changelog16:31
Guest35236Heres the output:16:32
Guest35236http://pastie.org/947600816:32
Guest35236its on here:16:34
Guest35236https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/precise/+source/openssl/+changelog16:34
RoyKGuest35236: AFAIK openvas/nessus just checks for the version running, so if it says openssl 1.0.0, it decides it's a bad version, but then, most distros don't upgrade core packages to the latest patch level, they just backport the fixes and don't include new stuff16:38
mdeslaurGuest35236: I'm not sure how to debug that...have you filed a bug with commercial nessus to see what they say about it?16:39
Guest35236not yet16:40
Guest35236i thought that would be the case16:40
Guest35236but the older version doesnt do this16:40
Guest35236and nmap definitely didnt do that16:40
Guest35236(the stuff i linked)16:40
mdeslaurthe only thing I can do when I get a minute is to try to run one of the original heartbleed test script on our package16:41
RoyKheartbleed is evil (tm)16:41
Guest35236its really very strange16:42
patdk-wkatleast my updated server is not vaulnerable16:42
Guest35236ah hang on16:43
Guest35236it seems to be related to nrpe16:43
Guest35236it only fails on port 566616:43
patdk-wkwhat is nrpe16:44
Guest35236nagios client16:44
Guest35236ill check the pkg16:44
Guest35236ii  nagios-nrpe-server               2.12-5ubuntu1.2                     Nagios Remote Plugin Executor Server16:44
patdk-wkdoes that package depend on libssl?16:45
patdk-wkodd, it does16:45
RoyKpatdk-wk: nrpe uses ssl16:45
patdk-wkyou have restarted it since heartbleed?16:45
Guest35236im not sure how i double check depencies, but it transmits using ssl16:45
patdk-wkroyk, I know, the question was if it was compiled in or linked16:45
RoyKok16:45
Guest35236i actually checked this, hang on16:46
Guest35236root@dev-upload01:/etc/nagios# ldd /usr/sbin/nrpe | grep ssl16:47
Guest35236        libssl.so.1.0.0 => /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libssl.so.1.0.0 (0x00007fc908570000)16:47
Guest35236which is afaik the ubuntu library16:47
patdk-wkyes, has it been restarted in the last 4 months or so?16:48
Guest35236hmmm16:48
Guest35236yes, but possibly not till after the ssl update i suppose16:48
patdk-wkwell, we want it restarted after the ssl update16:49
patdk-wkor else it won't notice the update16:49
Guest35236yeah true16:49
patdk-wkI would restart it, then retest16:49
Guest35236ill double check16:49
Guest35236you guys have full permission to slap me16:50
Guest35236lol16:50
FishsceneNVM! I think I figured it out… "sudo ltsp-update-image i386"16:50
rbasakjamespage: mongodb \o/16:51
Guest35236my puppet scripts must not notify nrpe on an openssl update16:51
Guest35236hadnt even thought about it16:51
Guest35236thanks guys16:51
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Guest35236seriously stupid16:51
FishsceneDon't beat yourself up too badly. I stared at my own answer for a couple of minutes before it dawned on me that "CHROOT" was the same thing as the Architecture in an old command. lol.16:52
rbasakGuest35236: check out checkrestart(1). Might be an idea to run a nagios monitor for that.16:53
Guest35236good idea16:56
Guest35236i always like overengineering nagios checks, seems like a perfect candidate :)16:57
LucidGuyAnyone using zfsonlinux?16:59
hallynzul: around?17:08
zulhallyn:  not really17:08
hallynjsut a quick q,17:08
hallynii  libvirt-bin                        1.2.6-0ubuntu5                      amd64        programs for the libvirt library17:08
hallynii  libvirt0                           1.2.6-0ubuntu5                      amd64        library for interfacing with different virtualization systems17:08
hallynii  python-libvirt                     1.2.5-0ubuntu1                      amd64        libvirt Python bindings17:08
hallynis python-libvirt spuposed to be at 1.2.6-0ubuntu5?17:08
Pici:|17:08
hallynzul: qa-regresion-tests are failing so i can't tell if it's my new qemu or the old python-libvirt :)17:09
zulits suppose to be 1.2.6-0ubuntu117:09
* hallyn checks publish history17:09
zulill upload it if its not there17:09
hallynyeah it doesn't seem to be in proposed17:10
zulhallyn:  ill get to it17:10
hallynzul: ok, thanks. meanwhile i'm going to go ahead and push new qemu.17:10
zulhallyn:  ack17:11
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s0m3b0dyHello, I wanted to know how to install one package from a different repository without having to upgrade all the dependencies?19:47
geniiIt doesn't work that way.19:48
s0m3b0dywould it be possible?19:48
s0m3b0dyWell, I actually use debian, but their support channel sucks so here I am19:48
s0m3b0dyI need to install this on debian sqeeze: https://packages.debian.org/sid/rhnsd19:49
PiciTry their official channels on oftc then.19:51
s0m3b0dyPici: who's channel is that?19:52
Piciiirc, they were on #freenode and moved to #oftc, there is just some leftover things here.19:52
s0m3b0dydebian?19:53
Picier, I don't know why I put hashes in from of those.19:53
s0m3b0dyyeah was gonna say :p19:53
PiciIt's been a long day.19:54
s0m3b0dyI spent all morning figuring out how to install spacewalk on centos, with almost no documentation available for any of the issues I had19:55
patdk-wksometimes the package will work as is19:58
patdk-wksometimes you have to recompile it19:58
patdk-wkand other times, you have to actually install all the deps19:59
darkxploithello guys i got ubuntu server 13.04 .. how do i upgrade to latest version?. because each time i made an upgrade it gives me error 40420:33
sarnoldyou're far enough back that downloading a 14.04 LTS image and starting there might be easier20:34
sarnoldthere is an old-releases.ubuntu.com archive that might help you if you want to try upgrading in place without downloading new images20:34
darkxploitsarnold, its on a vps i dont want to lose everything20:34
s0m3b0dybut to answer your question darkxploit run: dist-upgrade20:35
darkxploits0m3b0dy, thats too same error20:35
s0m3b0dywhat is the error?20:36
s0m3b0dydarkxploit: you have to run apt-get update first though20:36
darkxploits0m3b0dy, sorry i mean there is no thing available on dist-upgrade20:36
darkxploitapt-get update and apt-get upgrade gives me error 40420:37
s0m3b0dywhat error?20:37
s0m3b0dypaste the whole error here20:37
s0m3b0dydarkxploit: ?20:39
darkxploits0m3b0dy, This is for the apt-get update http://pastebin.com/m5s4zb9Q20:40
s0m3b0dydarkxploit: try to run a traceroute to this IP: 91.189.92.20020:41
s0m3b0dywhat happens if you run "apt-get dist-upgrade20:42
darkxploits0m3b0dy, here is the traceroute result http://pastebin.com/KzJV3yve20:43
s0m3b0dydarkxploit: sudo /etc/init.d/nscd restart20:44
s0m3b0dythat will flush the DNS cache20:44
s0m3b0dythen try doing an apt-get update again20:44
darkxploits0m3b0dy, i dont have nscd20:46
darkxploits0m3b0dy, i dont have nscd20:53
s0m3b0dydarkxploit: sorry was afk20:53
s0m3b0dydarkxploit: can you restart the whole server? the DNS cache is stuck and Im not sure why it can't find the IP20:54
darkxploits0m3b0dy, i have restarted it as well.. then start network service20:55
darkxploitsame error20:55
s0m3b0dyhm20:56
s0m3b0dydid you try "apt-get dist-upgrade" instead of just "dist-upgrade" ?20:56
darkxploits0m3b0dy, are you sure its the cache or that version dont have any more update.20:56
s0m3b0dyoh crap, that's what it is x.x20:57
s0m3b0dyI didn't check the repos before, sorry20:58
darkxploits0m3b0dy, this is the repos http://pastebin.com/ahAmgK9F21:03
darkxploits0m3b0dy,  cat /etc/issue21:04
darkxploitUbuntu 13.04 \n \l21:04
s0m3b0dydarkxploit: and which ubuntu version are you running?21:04
s0m3b0dyno idea what to say then darkxploit :/21:05
s0m3b0dydo you need all the repos there?21:05
s0m3b0dydelete the last one if anything21:05
s0m3b0dyand this one21:06
s0m3b0dyhttp://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/raring-security/21:06
darkxploiti need to make an upgrade to latest version.. because right now i cant install anything for example i can install aptitude21:06
darkxploiti cant install aptitude*21:06
darkxploits0m3b0dy, i have comment the last 2 lines in the repo.. same error21:09
zartoosh__HI I am using ubuntu 14.04. When I type apt-get upgrade it tries to install newer kernel version. I do not want to get the newer kernel, is there a way I can automate this please? Thanks21:23
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Patrickdkzartoosh__, heh?22:17
Patrickdkapt-get upgrade does NOT install newer kernels22:17
zartoosh__Patrickdk, so the something else does it, thanks, now I have to find out what does it.22:26
Patrickdkdist-upgrade :)22:26
Patrickdkupgrade just *warns* you that it can't install them, cause you didn't use dist-upgrade22:26
sarnoldapt-get dist-upgrade will upgrade your kernel for you22:26
Patrickdkno, he wanted upgrade22:27
Patrickdkhe doesn't want a kernel22:27
Patrickdkhe doesn't understand the difference22:27
sarnoldah he likes his vulnerabilities :)22:27
Patrickdkupgrade *upgrades* existing packages22:27
Patrickdksar, no, upgrade would do that ok :)22:27
Patrickdkdist-upgrade, upgrades and upgrades things that require new dependencies (the kernel being one of those)22:27
Patrickdklike say you install mysql-server, and it installs mysql-server-5.122:28
Patrickdkthen later mysql-server is upgraded to mysql-server-5.522:28
Patrickdkupgrade would never install that new mysql version22:29
Patrickdkdist-upgrade would22:29
sarnold.. only if some set of package dependencies asked for the new 5.5 or 5.6..22:29
Patrickdkya, the generic top level package *mysql-server* would ask for mysql-server-5.5 :)22:29
Patrickdkya, that is exactly how it works in ubuntu (had to check, I haven't used mysql in ubuntu for a long time)22:30
Patrickdksame with kernel22:30
Patrickdklinux-generic depends on the actual linux kernel version22:31
Patrickdkso it's always a new dependency on upgrades22:31
Patrickdkless common, is a package having a new dependency, like adding in liblz4 or something22:31
zartoosh__apt-get -q --force-yes -y upgrade   I guess this command was upgrading my kernel.22:31
sarnoldzartoosh__: seems unlikely to me22:32
Patrickdkit defently wouldn't22:32
zartoosh__sarnold, then I am lost what make my kernel upgrades ...22:32
Patrickdkhow do you know it's upgrading?22:32
zartoosh__My kernel has changed from 3.12-24 to 3.12.3222:34
sarnoldzartoosh__: do you perhaps have unattended-upgrades installed?22:34
PatrickdkI didn't even think unattended upgrades does reboots too22:35
zartoosh__sarnold, I hope not, this is a server so no gui stuff running22:35
Patrickdkwhat does that have to do with gui?22:35
sarnoldPatrickdk: it shouldn't, but it could be a surprising reason why a kernel update might be installde22:35
zartoosh__the destop enviroment adds more applications which I am not aware of all ... that what I meant22:35
Patrickdkzartoosh__, what does unattended-upgrades have to do with gui22:36
Patrickdkis it installed or not? :)22:36
Patrickdkunattended-upgrades - automatic installation of security upgrades (nothing to do with gui)22:36
Patrickdkit is *automatically* installed if you install a gui22:37
zartoosh__Patrickdk, a newer kernel is installed, never mind the gui, I provided the wrong info, I am using server22:37
Patrickdkheh? you still haven't answered the question22:37
Patrickdkis unattended-upgrades installed or not22:37
sarnoldzartoosh__: dpkg -l unattended-upgrades   :)22:37
zartoosh__let me check sorry I did not understood that one sec22:38
zartoosh__no it is not22:38
Patrickdkmost everything in /etc/apt/apt.conf.d/50unattended-upgrades commented out?22:39
Patrickdkexcept like 2 lines at the top?22:39
zartoosh__let me check22:39
sarnoldzartoosh__: check out /var/log/dpkg.log -- it can tell you when the new packages were installed, you miht be able to use that to figure out who might have installed it..22:39
Patrickdkjust wanted to double check, it wasn't turned on manually, isntead of via the package :)22:40
sarnold:)22:40
zartoosh__Patrickdk,  there is no /etc/apt/apt.conf.d/50xxx in my system.22:41
Patrickdkheh22:42
Patrickdkodd22:42
zartoosh__setting GRUB_DEFAULT does not help to boot to older kernel either ..22:42
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