[00:00] <ang_> popey: I also tried to check under software updates, additional drivers but it doesnt show me any drivers!
[00:00] <daftykins> bluetower: sure, but too old to be supported by current software component versions in ubuntu
[00:00] <popey> ang_: realtek have drivers on their site I believe, assuming it's a realtek based device
[00:00] <ang_> popey: yes, rtl8192cu
[00:00] <bluetower> hum.... its wierd though because I did something and then I did an apt-get update and the next time I booted I have 3d accelearation
[00:01] <bluetower> In debian
[00:01] <delinquentme> popey, if you send it an input which has the extension .tar ....
[00:01] <popey> ang_: maybe try an updated driver from realtek http://www.realtek.com.tw/downloads/downloadsView.aspx?Langid=1&PFid=48&Level=5&Conn=4&ProdID=277&DownTypeID=3&GetDown=false&Downloads=true
[00:02] <popey> delinquentme: tar is very old software ☻
[00:02] <bluetower> and yes your all right if I use the default driver that installs I have great 2d but I have no hardware video acceleration of any kind including video decoding I've noted
[00:02] <valiente> ok so i just installed ubuntu on my laptop and when I close the lid and it suspends itself or if I just suspend it, the screen wont turn back on unless I just cut the power and restart it. Any ideas?
[00:03] <popey> valiente: when it wakes from suspend, try switching to the first TTY with CTRL+ALT+F1, then to the GUI with CTRL+ALT+F7 as a workaround ?
[00:03] <ang_> popey: got a tar.gz file, could you please tell me what should I do with it?
[00:04] <bluetower> valiente, cant you ctrl+alt+F(x) swich between console's? or does that give you video at all?
[00:04] <popey> ang_: need to find a tutorial for it..
[00:06] <popey> ang_: there's a few out there, http://askubuntu.com/a/342139/612 looks close to what you need to do, but you might want to wait for someone else who has more recent experience with that card.
[00:07] <ang_> popey: thank you, will check it out and try to install it
[00:07] <popey> good luck
[00:08] <ZackWolf_> hey all... i am really new to Ubuntu how ever have built a LTSP server.  We have a mix of RDP thin clients and PXE thin clients.  I'd prefer all PXE however some of them are old.  Question i have is how can I have a shared folder where all users have read/write access to all files and all new files going into that folder
[00:13] <kardan> Sadly no news after all: Fetched 337 MB in 52min 21s (107 kB/s) | libreoffice-gnome:i386 conflicts with libreoffice-core:i386 | libpango-1.0-0:i386 conflicts with plymouth:i386 | E: Internal Error, No file name for libss2
[00:14] <ang_> Hi all, I have an issue with my wifi, I am using an usb adapter and I keep losing connection. I moved the computer near the modem to be able to plug in and look for help in this chat, anyone has any idea of how to fix this?
[00:14] <ang_> popey: the commands in the link wont work
[00:14] <kardan> I searched for the libss2 error before and found a form suggesting 'dpkg --configure --pending' but in this case it just gives up as well.
[00:16] <kardan> maybe this is a reappearance of https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/apt/+bug/935078 - I could add some more info there.
[00:20] <kevin__> my screen keeps shutting off and not turning back on when i put it in suspend. Any ideas?
[00:25] <kardan> dpkg: dependency problems prevent configuration of libss2: libss2 depends on libc6 (>= 2.17); however: Version of libc6 on system is 2.15-0ubuntu10.6. dependency problems - leaving unconfigured. - So as long libc6 can't be upgraded libss2 will fail to be installed.
[00:26] <kevin__> When I go into suspend mode on my laptop, the screen wont turn back on unless I cut the power and restart it. How do I get the screen to work?
[00:37] <trouble_> 12
[00:41] <stevendumani> hello everyone, I'm having this problem http://pastebin.com/AuEJBM1U
[00:43] <ricksebak> popey: or anybody who knows kernel panics. i've now got logs of the whole kernel panic. but I don't really know what I'm looking for. http://paste.ubuntu.com/8049608/
[00:44] <apb1963> I'm trying to run apache on a different port.... it doesn't seem to want to listen to me.  It keeps running IP6 on port 80... I want IP4 on a different port...  I changed it in the ../sites-enabled dir in the vhost config... but there's nothing listening on that new port....
[00:45] <wheatthin> ricksebak, are you using an out of repo virtualbox install?
[00:46] <ricksebak> wheatthin: it's from the download.virtualbox.org repo
[00:46] <wheatthin> apb1963, may I ask why you need it on a different port?
[00:47] <ricksebak> 4.3.8
[00:47] <wheatthin> ricksebak, that's why. And it's unsupported here I think.. but you need to reinstall it
[00:47] <wheatthin> so it updates with your current kenrel
[00:47] <wheatthin> kernel*
[00:48] <ricksebak> wheatthin: I need to reinstall vbox from the official ubuntu repos, or just reinstall it from the oracle repo?
[00:48] <apb1963> wheatthin: I have two machines behind a router... the router will only forward packets to one IP per port.  So in order to use the same service on a different machine, it needs to run on a different port.
[00:48] <wheatthin> well I'd uninstall it and install using ubuntu repo, so it isn't a hassle next time
[00:49] <wheatthin> apb1963, couldn't you use a dns server internally for reference to the accepted port? then use port triggering?
[00:49] <apb1963> s/run/listen/
[00:50] <ricksebak> wheatthin: i can do that, but the 12.04 repos are a bit out of date, understandably so. Can you explain to me what I'm running into here? Like, I wouldn't expect a guest to really care where a hypervisor came from?
[00:50] <apb1963> wheatthin: really?  setup an entire DNS server in order to avoid running apache on a different port?
[00:51] <wheatthin> apb1963, no, you can run it on any port you want via apache2.conf or httpd.conf via virtual host config section.. But.. yeah..
[00:52] <wheatthin> but it's not a virtual host, so I dunno
[00:53] <apb1963> I should mention that the machine that's not working is 14.04 with apache 2.4... that machine that does work (albeit on port 80) is 12.04 with apache 2.2
[00:53] <wheatthin> http://httpd.apache.org/docs/trunk/vhosts/examples.html    apb1963
[00:53] <apb1963> s/that/the
[00:53] <wheatthin> in the machine that has access
[00:53] <wheatthin> via port 80..
[00:53] <wheatthin> instead of using *:80
[00:54] <wheatthin> select the IP of the other machine
[00:54] <wheatthin> and select port 80
[00:54] <adoniscik> if apt-cache says that a package is 3.5.0-2ubuntu1~saucy1~ppa1 does that mean it is only for saucy?
[00:54] <apb1963> so do this: <VirtualHost 172.20.30.50>
[00:55] <apb1963> with a Listen 82
[00:55] <bluetower> ok so https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/AMD I followed the command line install trying to get drivers installed
[00:55] <ricksebak> adoniscik: yes.
[00:55] <adoniscik> so how did I install it in precise, ricksebak?
[00:56] <ricksebak> adoniscik: find a package that was built for precise, or compile from source.
[00:56] <bluetower> sudo aticonfig --initial            command gave me
[00:56] <bluetower> aticonfig: No supported adapters detected
[00:57] <apb1963> wheatthin: no yo're saying something different.... it sounds like yo're saying to "disable" access on the working machine???  By specifying the other machine's IP?  Not following.
[00:57] <wheatthin> bluetower, did you run    sudo aticonfig --initial
[00:57] <adoniscik> ricksebak, this package is supposedly built for precise. See lapack: https://launchpad.net/~marutter/+archive/ubuntu/rdev?field.series_filter=precise
[00:57] <wheatthin> no, it has to have the original IP for the main machine, then under virtual hosts, you specify the next machine
[00:57] <bluetower> wheatthin, yes as per the responce it gave me
[00:58] <wheatthin> bluetower, restart?
[00:58] <bluetower> I tried before and after reboot
[00:58] <bluetower> same responce aticonfig: No supported adapters detected
[00:58] <el_toro> leave
[00:58] <wheatthin> bluetower, can you confirm that the xorg.conf file was created in /etc/X11?
[00:58] <bluetower> how do I do that?
[00:59] <wheatthin> bluetower,    cat /etc/X11/xorg.conf | grep "driver"
[01:00] <bluetower> there is no /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[01:00] <bluetower> at least not at THAT location
[01:00] <ricksebak> adoniscik: I'm not seeing anything that leads me to believe that lapack was built for precise
[01:00] <wheatthin> apb1963, then you go to your /etc/hosts file and enter your fqdn of your other machine and ip address so it knows it by that name
[01:00] <l> amadyang
[01:01] <bluetower> wheatthin, I get no such file or directory
[01:01] <Guest27237> nick
[01:01] <wheatthin> bluetower, then it wasn't created my friend
[01:01] <bluetower> how do I create it?
[01:01] <adoniscik> ricksebak, isn't that implied by filtering the entries for precise, as I did?
[01:01] <wheatthin> bluetower, what command did you use to install the drivers?
[01:01] <adoniscik> what purpose does the filter serve otherwise?
[01:02] <wheatthin> bluetower,    sudo aticonfig --initial -f
[01:02] <bluetower> I'm new to debian based linux, I've been using fedora for years
[01:02] <bluetower> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/AMD
[01:02] <apb1963> wheatthin: it doesn't have an fqdn other than perhaps  notworking.local ????   Also, are you referencing the section in the link you provided titled "Running different sites on different ports." ???
[01:02] <bluetower> I followed the from command line
[01:02] <wheatthin> Yes.
[01:02] <apb1963> wheatthin: yes to which question?  :)
[01:03] <wheatthin> apb1963, sorry, to yours.
[01:04] <apb1963> wheatthin: I meant... I asked two questions... 1. about fqdn (noworking.local) 2. The section you referenced.
[01:04] <ricksebak> adoniscik: in my experience, and maybe i'm wrong, no. If a package doesn't say it was built for precise, it's not for precise. If you can't find one that's built for precise and you end up compiling from source, look into checkinstall, it will at least let you build from source and then hook that into dpkg.
[01:04] <bluetower> I had 3d accelearation working on debian 7.6 with my ati x1050 but was having other driver issues. so I figured I'd try ubuntu. so far no such luck
[01:04] <wheatthin> bluetower, for your question, there's like 3 options...  sudo apt-get install fglrx   apt-get install fglrx-updates fglrx-updates-experimental I think.. I used fglrx-updates
[01:05] <wheatthin> bluetower, which one did you use?
[01:05] <bluetower> and there is a difference between them?
[01:05] <wheatthin> yes, one is maintained by ubuntu, and the other are from amd
[01:05] <wheatthin> the original release, and beta release from amd, bluetower
[01:06] <bluetower> wheatthin, first I did the headers, then I did sudo apt-get install fglrx-updates fglrx-amdcccle-updates
[01:06] <TJ-> apb1963: http://httpd.apache.org/docs/current/bind.html
[01:06] <Bashing-om> bluetower: Show the channel the card you have -> lspci -nnk | grep -iA3 vga , old card ? ATI droppped support and there is no proprietary driver available.
[01:06] <wheatthin> after you had installed the kernel drivers, did you reboot immediately?
[01:07] <ricksebak> wheatthin: i can reinstall vbox. Can you explain to me what I'm running into here? Like, I wouldn't expect a guest to really care where a hypervisor came from? Not suggesting your answer is wrong, I just don't understand how the guest could know or care where the hypervisor came from?
[01:07] <bluetower> lspci -nnk | grep -iA3 vga
[01:07] <bluetower> crap
[01:07] <wheatthin> ricksebak, what I'm seeing is when you updated ubuntu, virtualbox compiled software didn't update with it.
[01:07] <bluetower> http://paste.ubuntu.com/8049709/
[01:09] <bluetower> well I'll be back food is ready finally
[01:09] <ricksebak> wheatthin: "virtualbox compiled software" meaning the guest additions kernel modules on the guest? or vbox itself on the host?
[01:09] <wheatthin> virtualbox software itself that runs in the background as it's main servers
[01:09] <wheatthin> service*
[01:10] <wheatthin> ricksebak, it requires updating once the kernel updates, to be able to initialize the hardware
[01:10] <kernel_sanders>  /ignore * joins
[01:11] <apb1963> TJ-: thank you.  that reinforces what I had already understood...  what's baffling is weathin is apparently telling me to setup the working machine (lets call it blue) with two listen directives - one at port 80 and one at say port 82, and then have two vhosts, one for blue and one for the other machine that's not working (call it red) listening on port 82, all within the config file on blue.  That's got my mind boggled.  I could understand doing this on (red).
[01:11] <apb1963> . and that would make sense to me.
[01:11] <wheatthin> apb1963, that's not what I said.
[01:11] <apb1963> ok
[01:13] <wheatthin> apb1963, you keep the original ports, you create your domain name or whatever you have pointing to your hosts as dns goes in your /etc/hosts file, so the main server knows the other. Under the virtual hosts section in the apache.conf, you specify the other machine with the default port.
[01:13] <wheatthin> when an external hit goes to the main server, it'll check it's conf, and go to the secondary server hosted on the same port
[01:14] <basaatw> I'm having trouble installing java on my linux mint disrto >>  I was on #linuxmint-help they thought I should ask my question in #ubuntu  I was using icetea but a software I use does not like icetea and they recommended I use the full version of Java   Is this the place I need to ask how to get rid of icetea and install default
[01:14] <basaatw> full ver of Java
[01:15] <daftykins> !mint | basaatw
[01:15] <apb1963> wheatthin: I'm sorry I'm having a really hard time understanding what you're saying.  I have two physical machines.  It sounds like you think I want to run two servers on one machine.  I don't.
[01:16] <wheatthin> apb1963, for instance, my server is beeworld.agent79.org., but my secondary config points to a virtual host and goes to security.beeworld.agent79.org.
[01:16] <wheatthin> in the main servers apache.conf, under the virtualhost section, you specify the IP:80 to the secondary machine
[01:17] <apb1963> ok, I'll give that a try
[01:17] <amadyang> 测试
[01:17] <wheatthin> apb1963, my apache is hosted on 192.168.0.5, but my secondary host is 192.168.0.10.. My dns server tells an external hit, that it's located on a different machine on the same network.
[01:18] <wheatthin> apb1963, that's what your /etc/hosts file will do
[01:18] <apb1963> ok
[01:18] <dustylinux> any Internet download manager compatible to ubuntu 14.04?
[01:18] <shuman> wget
[01:20] <apb1963> I will try.  So in my hosts file I simply put 192.168.0.101 red.somerandom_domain.local ?
[01:21] <wheatthin> apb1963, not, .local cause that refers to a localhost
[01:22] <wheatthin> apb1963, do you have a registered dns name?
[01:22] <apb1963> wheatthin: I have a free one for the working machine.
[01:23] <apb1963> wheatthin: which is of course assigned to my router in reality
[01:23] <wheatthin> does it have a wildcard allowing you to have virtualhosts?
[01:23] <wheatthin> subdomains*
[01:23] <apb1963> wheatthin: not sure.  it's freedns.afraid.org
[01:23] <apb1963> although I think so.... but not sure
[01:23] <wheatthin> well if so, you'll set the dns up with it's domainname, adding a subdomain to the prefix
[01:24] <wheatthin> in your virtualhost section and /etc/hosts file
[01:25] <wheatthin> apb1963, so if your domain name is    freedns.afraid.org, and your subdomain (secondary http server) is slapme.freedns.afraid.org, you'll need to supply that information to your /etc/hosts file
[01:26] <wheatthin> see what I mean?
[01:26] <wheatthin> then add your ip and port to the secondary machine in the httpd.conf or apache.conf whichever
[01:26] <apb1963> wheatthin: no no... freedns.afraid.org is the service I use to get free dns
[01:26] <wheatthin> apb1963, well then take that as an example
[01:27] <apb1963> there's just one IP
[01:27] <ricksebak> wheatthin: I updated vbox and i've now got a functional 14.04 VM. I never woulda guessed that. I'll ask the vbox forums or whatever to explain why this happened so I can get it in more detail. Thanks friend!
[01:29] <apb1963> wheatthin: My ISP allocates one IP.  My router takes it.  The router then allocates additional private IP's to my two physical machines.
[01:29] <EsoRotica> Oh no, my fail whale is dead ><
[01:29] <wheatthin> apb1963, right, which works through NAT (Network Address Translation)
[01:30] <apb1963> wheatthin: freedns.org associates that one IP with the public domain name they supply, and the subdomain I pick.
[01:30] <apb1963> right
[01:30] <wheatthin> apb1963, right.. which is what I meant by external hit to your domain name..
[01:30] <wheatthin> the one that is default host is your main machine which is assigned via dmz or port forwarding
[01:31] <apb1963> wheatthin: but in order to allocate a second subdomain, I either need to give freedns a second IP, or use the same IP.  I don't have a second IP to give it.
[01:32] <wheatthin> apb1963, that's the one whose configs are going to point to the secondary machine in it's virtualhost section, as well as contain the subdomain and IP address in the /etc/hosts file so it knows who it is by name
[01:33] <wheatthin> apb1963, if you have a wildcard, which shows up as *.domain.com or whatever, you can throw any subdomain name at it under your domain and it'll point to the main machine requesting the subdomain from it
[01:33] <apb1963> wheatthin: so if I tell freedns to use one IP and have two A records with two different subdomains both with the same IP, then the router would need to differentiate between two machines somehow.
[01:33] <motaka2> hello
[01:33] <apb1963> wheatthin: ok, let me go see if I can figure out how to do that at freedns
[01:33] <wheatthin> apb1963, , not the router, the httpd.conf//etc/hosts file differentiates
[01:34] <apb1963> wheatthin: that's not making sense to me.  If I specify my domain name in the hosts file, then DNS is not queried afaik
[01:34] <kernix> hi all
[01:34] <wheatthin> usually with multiple subdomains, you'll want to use a dns server.. I'm using bind..
[01:35] <motaka2> how can I see all folders I shared in ubuntu ?
[01:35] <daftykins> motaka2: browse localhost via smb, if that's how you shared them
[01:35] <TJ-> apb1963: I've not been following but I think what wheatthin is describing, is configuring host A to receive all HTTP requests, but to proxy requests for host B
[01:35] <wheatthin> apb1963, that's where you're wrong, you'll need to have a wildcard on your freedns  host so it can say, "any subdomain under <your domain> will point to your external IP"
[01:35] <apb1963> TJ-: oh
[01:35] <apb1963> TJ-: well why didn't he say so?  lol
[01:36] <TJ-> apb1963: I'll let wheatthin confirm or deny the rumour :)
[01:36] <wheatthin> TJ-, rgr
[01:37] <apb1963> still not following the dns vs hosts issue though.  Either I do it in dns or I do it in the hosts file...  are you saying I need it in both?
[01:37] <wheatthin> then it's up to the computer accepting as the external IP to differentiate which internal IP is being used.
[01:37] <TJ-> apb1963: So you have a vhost section on host A that has Proxy entries pointing to the IP of host B. There are various Proxy options to disguise the proxy is happening
[01:38] <apb1963> ok, I think I better do this one step at a time.  Let me go look at freedns and see if I can figure out how to wildcard.  Give me a few minutes please.
[01:38] <wheatthin> apb1963, the /etc/hosts file will say,   192.168.0.101 is subhost1.domain.com
[01:38] <motaka2> daftykins: thx
[01:39] <paola> hola
[01:39] <wheatthin> apb1963, btw, that's how google is setup :) but they use real dns servers :P instead of the /etc/hosts file
[01:39] <ramrebol1> Hi all. I have a little problem. On my Emacs are not working dead symbols (like ^, ` and ´). This is an reported bug. I solved by invoking on the terminal "XMODIFIERS = emacs" instead of "emacs" (or just /usr/bin/emacs). For convenience, I wrote an alias and I added it to my bashrc (alias emacs='XMODIFIERS= emacs'). All works fine now, except that when I run emacs using the graphical part (Press windows button and typing emacs...) the sys
[01:42] <wheatthin> ramrebol1, you can create another .desktop shortcut with the alias enabled
[01:43] <TJ-> apb1963: wheatthin Here's my configuration, used to proxy to a local dev server over a VPN from one of my datacenter servers: http://paste.ubuntu.com/8049885/
[01:43] <apb1963> ok, I'm not sure if I did it strictly correct, but it seems to be working.  I can ping x.y.com as well as red.x.y.com  ... both respond with the same ip address.
[01:45] <wheatthin> apb1963, k, now in your /etc/hosts file on your main machine accepting the request, put the secondary host information for the subdomain
[01:45] <TJ-> wheatthin: There's no need for hosts entries using Apache's Proxy configuration
[01:45] <apb1963> TJ-: thank you..  looks a bit hairy.  I'll have to study that for awhile.
[01:45] <TJ-> apb1963: Very simple, couldn't be easier!
[01:46] <apb1963> TJ-: it's always easy when you know what you're doing!
[01:46] <TJ-> apb1963: My config has authorisation which you don't need
[01:46] <noaccel> Is there a ppa with the latest radeon drivers? xorg-edgers no longer seems to ahve fglrx
[01:46] <TJ-> apb1963: You only need the lines above "<Proxy *>"
[01:47] <wheatthin> TJ-, I see..
[01:47] <TJ-> apb1963: correction, you may need the "<Proxy *>" and its first 2 lines ("order..." and "allow ...") and the closing "</Proxy>"
[01:47] <wheatthin> always good to know :).. unless you gotta incorporate ftp and other services
[01:48] <apb1963> TJ-: ok, one line at a time please.  ServerName is the host acting as proxy, corrrect?
[01:48] <apb1963> oh man... ftp and stuff :/
[01:49] <apb1963> stand back... my brain is swelling... it will soon reach critical mass
[01:49] <TJ-> apb1963: "hq.iam.tj" is replaced by the public hostname you want the Internet to see
[01:50] <ramrebol1> wheatthin: this is my .desktop http://pastebin.com/knaS6BqS   I tried changing "Exec=/usr/bin/emacs24" by "emacs" (then I logout and login) but does not work :(
[01:50] <TJ-> apb1963: "ProxyPass/ProxyPassReverse" is the local IP address of server B
[01:51] <ramrebol1> sorry, I changed "Exec=/usr/bin/emacs24" by "Exec=emacs"
[01:51] <paola> alguien me enseña ingles
[01:51] <paola> jajja+
[01:51] <ramrebol1> jaja paola
[01:51] <ramrebol1> What are you doing here? where you from?
[01:51] <second> hello. does anyone know the command to download and install OpenVPN?
[01:51] <second> ty
[01:51] <TJ-> apb1963: Your "ProxyPass/ProxyPassReverse"  target URLs probably don't want the "/testing/" path on the end, just "/"
[01:51] <wheatthin> ramrebol1, edit the exec line to match your alias
[01:52] <TJ-> apb1963: why don't you send me a pvt msg with the domain name to answer to, and the IP of server A and server B, and I'll rewrite it for you
[01:53] <ramrebol1> wheatthin: I have two alias: "alias emacs='XMODIFIERS= emacs'" and "alias emacs24='XMODIFIERS= emacs24'". I also think that with that must work
[01:54] <wheatthin> ramrebol1, so use the xmodifiers one, but don't type emacs24, cause that's an actual alias, I just meant use it's options in quotes
[01:55] <wheatthin> ramrebol1, it won't use your emacs24 alias, cause it requires it to be launched by bash
[01:56] <apb1963> TJ-: thank you; publicserviceclub.com is the free public dns domain name.  asterisk is the subdomain for the machine listening on port 80; orange is the secondary machine.
[01:56] <wheatthin> ramrebol1, so we are using launch options
[01:56] <apb1963> doh!
[01:57] <wheatthin> lol
[01:58] <apb1963> erase erase erase
[01:58] <wheatthin> apb1963, it's all good, no ip's were released.
[01:58] <apb1963> oh well, I'll just change it later... they're free public addresses :)
[01:58] <apb1963> meh, it's dynamic anyway :)
[01:59] <wheatthin> ahh dns server?
[01:59] <wheatthin> err dsl*
[01:59] <ramrebol1> wheatthin: sorry, my english is not good. Do you say that instead of "/usr/bin/emacs24" I must to use just "emacs"?
[01:59] <ramrebol1> I need to change that in my .desktop?
[02:00] <wheatthin> ramrebol1, yup      "/usr/bin/emacs XMODIFIERS=emacs24"
[02:00] <wheatthin> if that's how your fix was in your original alias
[02:02] <mgrenier25> hi guys, i need some help with a bash script
[02:06] <ramrebol1> wheatthin: Thanks! So, I change "/usr/bin/emacs" by "/usr/bin/emacs XMODIFIERS=emacs24" on my .desktop, Do you think that I need to relog to see the results?
[02:06] <TJ-> !ask | mgrenier25
[02:07] <wheatthin> ramrebol1, no, it should be immediate
[02:07] <EsoRotica> Hello, I'm attempting to get a fujitsu ScanSnap S1500 installed. When using sane-find-scanners, I'm not able to see the device, Additionally my Virtualbox VM does not see any attached USB devices. Any IDeas?
[02:07] <ramrebol1> wheatthin: because not works. I tried to writting "/usr/bin/emacs XMODIFIERS=emacs" on my terminal and open emacs, but with the original error
[02:08] <mgrenier25> well, basically I use this script to call espeak and make it say a random sentence each time i login, any idea how to do this?
[02:09] <wheatthin> mgrenier25, like integrating "fortune" into your login?
[02:09] <wheatthin> ramrebol1, you forgot emacs24 behind XMODIFIERS
[02:10] <mgrenier25> not really, I want it to speak when It finished loading the desktop
[02:11] <wheatthin> mgrenier25, that was an example.
[02:12] <mgrenier25> I know, but I think fortune is for the console login
[02:12] <wheatthin> mgrenier25, and why couldn't it be used to pipe to espeak?
[02:13] <jim1> hello,i see a process named bioset running.what it is?ty
[02:13] <Beldar> EsoRotica, Try simple scan
[02:13] <mgrenier25> cause I already have my sentences I guess
[02:14] <Beldar> EsoRotica, Are you familiar with adding usb's to virtualbox?
[02:14] <EsoRotica> again, no scanners detected, for either gscan2pdf or simplescan
[02:14] <mgrenier25> script starts, choose 1 out of the 3 sentences I made, play it through espeak, end of script
[02:14] <EsoRotica> Not entirely, I've added extensions and set an All filter Beldar
[02:15] <wheatthin> mgrenier25, in that cause you'll need to have them formatted correctly, then initialize it using xsessions file
[02:15] <Beldar> EsoRotica, In preferences with virtual box off is a usb add option, that has to be set up foe any specific usb.
[02:16] <Beldar> for*
[02:16] <wheatthin> mgrenier25, which will execute it as it's loading the desktop
[02:16] <Beldar> EsoRotica, I don,t have any boxes set up right now so you can look through it.
[02:16] <mgrenier25> my script is already in the autostart list, I guess I just don't have the right syntax for it
[02:17] <EsoRotica> Beldar: There seems to be an option to let "any" device through...
[02:17] <wheatthin> mgrenier25, that's another issue entirely.. which we don't support custom scripts :)
[02:17] <Beldar> EsoRotica, Not sure what any is, but I have always had to allow specific usb's set to work.
[02:18] <wheatthin> mgrenier25, might try #ubuntu-offtopic
[02:18] <EsoRotica> Okay, so find them with the likes of lsusb, Beldar
[02:19] <ramrebol1> wheatthin: sorry, but if I have the line "Exec=/usr/bin/emacs24 XMODIFIERS=emacs" on my desktop so when start emacs is editing the file called "XMODIFIERS=emacs"
[02:19] <Beldar> EsoRotica, No the usb additions is in the preferences on a installed box, needs to have the virtual off to get it to setup and work upon booting. lsusb is Ubuntu identifying a usb, vbox has it's owb done first before seen by ubuntu.
[02:20] <Beldar> EsoRotica, http://www.dedoimedo.com/computers/virtualbox-usb.html
[02:21] <Beldar> EsoRotica, You can set it while the box is on, ut have to reboot it to have it work is all.
[02:21] <EsoRotica> Absolutely, its an ubuntu host, not windows. I'm having toubles seeing things in a windows VM
[02:21] <Beldar> but*
[02:22] <Beldar> EsoRotica, So what you are saying is ubuntu does not see the scanner at all even in a lsusb?
[02:24] <Beldar> EsoRotica, http://virantha.com/2014/03/17/one-touch-scanning-with-fujitsu-scansnap-in-linux/
[02:24] <EsoRotica> Beldar: I am infact also trying to ge tthat working. After starting the daemon I no longer see output in my syslog.
[02:25] <EsoRotica> Beldar: Next step in troubleshooting that is to remove the daemon and revert back to the test script
[02:25] <Beldar> EsoRotica, Seems to be issue in general with this model, second hit is a driver, best you see the goolge search I think. https://www.google.com/search?q=ScanSnap+S1500+linux&btnG=Search&hl=en&gbv=1
[02:27] <Beldar> EsoRotica, simple scan has a generic set up I would get it that far for use, than if the vbox is still needed you should be set I would think if set up correctly.
[02:27] <EsoRotica> Beldar: I agree that there are problems getting it working in ubuntu, and several people stuggle with a few succeeding. With that in mind, thats why I'm attempting to pass it though to the VM
[02:28] <EsoRotica> Beldar: When adding a blank filter in VM it mentions it should match all attached USB devices. My hope was that by enabling that feature I would have to fuss around.
[02:28] <Beldar> EsoRotica, check out the links, as far as the pass to vbox.
[02:28] <EsoRotica> Beldar: Thanks, Was checking other things and hadnt yet gotten to that link.
[02:28] <Beldar> EsoRotica, blank I have never used, the usb should be showing.
[02:28] <EsoRotica> Beldar: Agreed
[02:32] <Beldar> EsoRotica, That is an expensive scanner, my 50$ epson flat worked out of the box
[02:34] <EsoRotica> Beldar: The guys whos computer I'm in thye process of setting up requires something fast as he is archiving all ofhis old paperwork.
[02:34] <Beldar> makes sense looked to be the advantage
[02:34] <EsoRotica> Also, I've converterd him over from Windows in this whole process... This is the ONLY problem he is having :)
[02:34] <EsoRotica> >50
[02:35] <Beldar> good job, all OS have there uses would be my basic answer, linux does 99% of mine.
[02:36] <EsoRotica> Beldar: Absolutely true. I just cant get used to Gimp.
[02:37] <EsoRotica> At most, this guy needs access to quickbooks, and PS.. otherwise.... data processing and internet browsing.
[02:37] <Beldar> EsoRotica, Mine is Word, a plugin and all my papers are rather complex and sent to a word user.
[02:37] <Beldar> for grading so easier to just have them render perfectly.
[02:39] <EsoRotica> Beldar: I've found for any school paper that needs specific formatting, Word keep my formatting best. Otherwise... I'm set with Writer: Another note -> this is moving too offtopic.
[02:39] <Beldar> true
[02:56] <xieyong> join #mir
[02:56] <bluetower> no
[02:59] <UBuxuBU> does anyone know the name of the dvd bruner that is in kubuntu?
[02:59] <UBuxuBU> noone is answering there
[03:00] <bluetower> are you looking for burning softare?
[03:00] <bluetower> software
[03:00] <bluetower> and as for kubuntu, its prob K3B
[03:06] <mgrenier25> UBuxuBU i think it's k3b
[03:07] <SchrodingersScat> !info k3b
[03:07] <bluetower> I said k3b like 10min ago heh
[03:10] <fossterer> Hello! Anybody facing issues with Indian languages in Ubuntu 14.04 using iBus?
[03:16] <flamedoge> hi
[03:22] <[Ex0r]> So i've got a question. I am using ftpd installed via apt-get, and I am getting very slow connections and timeouts when connecting to the FTP server
[03:22] <[Ex0r]> any idea why it could be ?
[03:24] <[Ex0r]> It's taking a very long time getting the initial directory listing, and than when it finally connects and you start transferring files over, they take forever, even for 2kb files, and a lot of times it gets a connection time out
[03:25] <[Ex0r]> although over SFTP seems to work, normal FTP doesn't
[03:36] <tac-tics> is there a way to have Unity handle multiple instances of the same application more intelligently?
[03:36] <tac-tics> specifically, when alt-tabbing through the list
[03:36] <tac-tics> I'm running into some subtle, quirky behavior, but it's driving me a little nuts
[03:37] <tac-tics> also, I am wondering if there's a way to get rid of the "Show Desktop" item in the alt-tab list
[03:39] <trism> tac-tics: if you just want to cycle through the instances of a single app you can use alt+`
[03:42] <HikaruBG> hi guys
[03:44] <HikaruBG> can anyone give me advice how to fix this error? Aug 14 15:41:13 svetoslav-Ubuntu NetworkManager[809]: <warn> error requesting auth for org.freedesktop.NetworkManager.wifi.share.open: (3) GDBus.Error:org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.NameHasNoOwner: GDBus.Error:org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.NameHasNoOwner: Could not get UID of name ':1.168': no such name
[03:44] <HikaruBG> anyone?
[03:46] <Beldar> HikaruBG, Is this basically the wifi is not working?
[03:46] <tac-tics> oh, apparently compiz settings lets you disable the show desktop item
[03:46] <tac-tics> and thanks trism
[03:48] <NickVersfelt_> What is "Grep" and why is it screwing me over?
[03:48] <NickVersfelt_> ANybody?
[03:49] <tac-tics> compiz settings actually fixes a lot of my grievings
[03:49] <tac-tics> score :D
[03:50] <Beldar> !details | NickVersfelt_ how is it bothering you
[03:51] <Beldar> !grep
[03:51] <Beldar> NickVersfelt_,  ^^^^^^^^
[03:53] <Beldar> NickVersfelt_, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/grep
[03:53] <NickVersfelt_> Greb is missing every time I try to apt-get updatee
[03:53] <NickVersfelt_> Every single thing I try to install not update, my bad
[03:53] <Beldar> NickVersfelt_, You sure it is not grub?
[03:54] <NickVersfelt_> Oh sorry It is grep
[03:54] <Beldar> NickVersfelt_, You have to use grep for it to be an issue, take a look at the last link.
[03:57] <NickVersfelt_> How could grep be missing in this case: /var/lib/dpkg/info/libuuid1:amd64.postinst: 27: /var/lib/dpkg/info/libuuid1:amd64.postinst: grep: not found
[03:58] <coolstar> is it possible for me to configure wifi settings from the command line?
[03:58] <jon9> anybody know if it is possible to update a minimal iso with zsync full iso Ubuntu 14.04?
[03:58] <coolstar> I have ubuntu minimal installed and want to get wireless up so I can install a custom display manager & desktop environment
[03:58] <NickVersfelt_> coolstar are you certain that your wirless cards support wifi?
[03:59] <Beldar> jon9, I doubt it, what is the end goal?
[03:59] <coolstar> NickVersfelt_: yes it does, as it works in chrome os
[03:59] <coolstar> the issue is the machine has no ethernet card
[04:00] <jon9> to hopefully get my wireless up and running eventually
[04:00] <Beldar> NickVersfelt_, I never use grep however when I see it used here it in a command.
[04:00] <Beldar> is*
[04:00] <coolstar> I can get any debs I need to on the machine using a USB drive though
[04:00] <coolstar> NickVersfelt_: the wifi card works from the Ubuntu live usb also btw.
[04:01] <coolstar> actually just thought of something
[04:01] <coolstar> would it be possible to chroot from a live usb to the actual install?
[04:01] <coolstar> and install anything I need that way
[04:01] <mohsen-rashidi> Hello there
[04:01] <NickVersfelt_> That is what I did coolstar.
[04:01] <NickVersfelt_> Anybody having problems with trying to install anything?
[04:02] <NickVersfelt_> Always E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1) for everything trying to install
[04:02] <coolstar> NickVersfelt_: is there any guide on properly chrooting?
[04:03] <coolstar> I assume just using chroot won't work for dpkg, etc
[04:03] <NickVersfelt_> Its won't work for dpkg, I mostly did it bu attempting and failing a number of times
[04:04] <NickVersfelt_> since there are no reliable resources out there
[04:04] <OerHeks> NickVersfelt_, what ubuntu version are you on?
[04:05] <mohsen-rashidi> I`m  Fedora user and as you know we use Yum as package manager. Yum has a great feature called groupinstall which you can install many related software by just on command. I wonder to know does APT have such possibility or not?
[04:06] <coolstar> NickVersfelt_: I remember back in the day I was able to get dpkg and even Xorg with synaptic working from a chroot, but alas that was 3 years ago :/
[04:06] <coolstar> I think it was some live cd guide
[04:06] <NickVersfelt_> Currently I am on 14.04
[04:06] <coolstar> aha, found it!
[04:06] <coolstar> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LiveCDCustomization
[04:07] <dyu> is it fine to manually delete files transferred by duplicity? like going to the ftp server and manually rm-ing them? or it's going to break some magical database or binary that keeps track of these things?
[04:07] <NickVersfelt_> Oh wow! That could prove to be very useful soon
[04:08] <coolstar> I wonder how much could break from resolv.conf anyways
[04:08] <coolstar> I'd just set it to 8.8.8.8,8.8.4.4 anyways xD
[04:09] <NickVersfelt_> lol
[04:09] <NickVersfelt_> That could never fail
[04:09] <LostNva> NickVersfelt_: I can tell you what works for me to fix install prob
[04:09] <LostNva> NeckVersfelt: sudo rm /var/lib/dpkg/status
[04:09] <LostNva> sudo cp /var/lib/dpkg/status-old /var/lib/dpkg/status
[04:09] <LostNva> sudo rm -rf /var/lib/apt/lists/*
[04:09] <LostNva> sudo dpkg --configure -a
[04:09] <LostNva> sudo aptitude update
[04:09] <LostNva> sudo aptitude upgrade
[04:09] <unopaste> LostNva you have been muted for 60 seconds as it looks like you are pasting lots of lines into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com and paste just the URL of your data here when you are unmuted
[04:10] <coolstar> NickVersfelt_: the funny part was the faces of all the other kids at my school as I was running Ubuntu with persistence on my chromebook xD
[04:10] <coolstar> they were all stuck with a big web browser
[04:10] <NickVersfelt_> Try using Ubuntu without GUI for school :P
[04:11] <coolstar> NickVersfelt_: that'll be fun! writing homework assignments up in vi
[04:11] <NickVersfelt_> Possible to print from nano or vi?
[04:12] <coolstar> NickVersfelt_: don't think so but I can always scp the file to my main system
[04:14] <coolstar> NickVersfelt_: the best part was they thought I was a hacker just because I passed the "-v" flag when booting it
[04:14] <NickVersfelt_> scp it to your main system which also runs Ubuntu without GUI
[04:14] <HikaruBG> Beldar, the Wifi is working
[04:14] <HikaruBG> just it comes up with this error
[04:14] <HikaruBG> and I don't know wnat is it
[04:14] <NickVersfelt_> xD To the untrained eye any fast moving text on a black and white screen is "hacking"
[04:20] <Beldar> HikaruBG, Where is the error from and why do you care if everything works?
[04:22] <Arunscape> is this the right place to look for support relating to wifi chipsets
[04:23] <Arunscape> I'm guessing not?
[04:23] <Beldar> Arunscape, Under ubuntu use probably.
[04:24] <Arunscape> Ubuntu use?
[04:24] <Beldar> Arunscape, This is ubuntu support.
[04:25] <adante> hi, when i use aptitude to install samba, it wants to uninstall a bunch of seemingyl unrelated packages like gvfs-backends, nautilus-share as well as samba related ones like libsmbclient, samba-common-bin, software-center, ubuntu-desktop -- how can i find out why it is trying to do this? i don't really understand (it doesn't seem to be package collision as far as I can tell?)
[04:26] <Arunscape> well the problem I have is Ubuntu won't recognize the Broadcam BCM4352 card in my computer.. I've tried some stuff which I will type after this message....
[04:27] <Beldar> adante, This a samba from the ubuntu repos and why use aptitude?
[04:27] <Beldar> !broadcom | Arunscape
[04:27] <Arunscape> I tried that page
[04:27] <Arunscape> it didn't help because my computer doesn't have a cdrom
[04:28] <Arunscape> and it is required to install the packages
[04:28] <Beldar> Arunscape, I wouls address issue found when following that link, it has worked for more that I can count.
[04:28] <Beldar> Arunscape, YOU have a usb port?
[04:28] <Arunscape> yes
[04:29] <Beldar> Arunscape, Than use a live on a usb
[04:29] <Beldar> same as a disc
[04:29] <Arunscape> it didn't detect it
[04:30] <Arunscape> the usb isn't mounted in media/cdrom
[04:30] <JoeyJoeJo> I just got 3 new 3TB hard drives and setup a software raid 5. The total size of the array is 4TB. Shouldn't it be closer to 5.4TB?
[04:31] <Arunscape> so it doesn't work.. I even tried virtualizing Ubuntu and making VMware think the ubuntu ISO is a DVD drive
[04:31] <HikaruBG> Beldar, there is an "Internal Error" window pop up every time I reboot and this is the only error I see in my syslog. So i thing that might be it. Why is that error there if everything works? Obviously something is not OK :)
[04:31] <Beldar> Arunscape, Does the computer work with Ethernet?
[04:32] <Arunscape> Yes
[04:32] <Beldar> HikaruBG, I would not just assume that is it, logs are full of errors on working setups.
[04:33] <Beldar> Arunscape, Than plug it in and folow the instructions on if you have internet access in the link.
[04:34] <Beldar> HikaruBG, Are you fully updated and what release is this?
[04:34] <Arunscape> One more problem, BCM4352 is nowhere on that page
[04:36] <Beldar> Arunscape, So you think at least not trying the link the bot has as it's the best solution is not worth it?
[04:36] <Arunscape> I'll try it
[04:36] <Arunscape> I have to go, bye and thanks
[04:36] <zCoder> Hi
[04:37] <zCoder> I have installed ubuntu server then i was messing around and install ubuntu desktop and now i have uninstalled it yet for some reason im still in ubuntu GUI with unity and all the stuff
[04:37] <zCoder> how is that possible?
[04:37] <zCoder> why does it still exist?
[04:38] <__machine> im getting an SSL certificate verify failed error in a python app that is trying to connect to a 3rd party server over https… on an ubuntu 10.04 machine… do i just need to update the root certificates? does apt-get upgrade do that automatically, or do i have to specifically source and install the correct new root certificates?
[04:39] <Beldar> zCoder, The desktop is a meta package, did you purge it at the least?
[04:39] <zCoder> i used tasksel
[04:39] <zCoder> unchecked it
[04:40] <zCoder> but i am still logged in and able to use the desktop
[04:41] <Beldar> zCoder, tasksel from the desktop to remove? Have you rebooted?
[04:41] <zCoder> i will reboot if that is what it takes but if it was succesfully removed  how can i possibly still be using it?
[04:41] <zCoder> will it remove fully on reboot?
[04:43] <Beldar> zCoder, If your using it it is still being used removed or not, it's not a poof it is gone while using it, what did you expect? besides that it is a meta package with tons of packages.
[04:43] <zCoder> ok after reboot how can i try to trigger it to make sure its gone?
[04:44] <Beldar> zCoder, I would from the cli run sudo apt-get autoremove hopefully all the packages are ready to go. Your removal to start with was not exactly correct.
[04:46] <zCoder> ok did that
[04:46] <zCoder> it removed somre more junk
[04:46] <Beldar> zCoder, When I add a desktop I save the install list in case a removal is needed.
[04:46] <zCoder> Im a noob :P
[04:47] <zCoder> Anyway looks clean now.
[04:47] <zCoder> Thanks for your help
[04:47] <Beldar> no prob
[04:51] <jackhum> My ubuntu 14.04 is unable to connect to my college 802.11 secured network.
[04:51] <jackhum> it connects out of box when i use Windows 8.1 , but i am having trouble connecting it with 14.04
[04:57] <NewGuy> hey
[04:57] <NewGuy> line 42: /usr/lib/jvm/java-6-sun/bin/java: No such file or directory
[04:57] <NewGuy> i tried setting the JAVA_HOME path but that failed. can anyoone point me in the right direction
[04:58] <NewGuy> i think maybe i installed java wrong, if i try java --version i get Could not create the Java virtual machine.
[05:00] <Beldar> NewGuy, try java -version
[05:00] <ParaDelirium> mod
[05:00] <NewGuy> Beldar: i get the error Could not create the Java virtual machine.
[05:00] <ParaDelirium> hey
[05:00] <ParaDelirium> where are u from?
[05:01] <Beldar> NewGuy, Notice the difference in my command and yours
[05:01] <cfhowlett> ParaDelirium, this isn't a social channel.  ask your tech support questions
[05:01] <Beldar> !ot | ParaDelirium
[05:01] <NewGuy> Beldar: i installed the sudo apt-get install openjdk-6-jre
[05:02] <Beldar> NewGuy, Can you run the correct command?
[05:03] <NewGuy> Beldar: i understand now. i will pay more attention next time
[05:03] <Beldar> ;)
[05:03] <xingxing> This channel is too crowded
[05:03] <NewGuy> Beldar: the command works fine: OpenJDK Runtime Environment (IcedTea6 1.13.3) (6b31-1.13.3-1ubuntu1~0.13.10.1)
[05:03] <cfhowlett> !cn | xingxing,
[05:03] <Beldar> NewGuy, cool beyond that I'm not sure your issue.
[05:03] <NewGuy> Beldar: thanks
[05:04]  * Beldar shoulder bumps xingxing 
[05:04] <NewGuy> can anyone else help with this error. /usr/lib/jvm/java-6-sun/bin/java: No such file or directory
[05:06] <Beldar> NewGuy, Can you give the context of that error?
[05:06] <NewGuy> Beldar: i am trying to run a program, webcamstudio
[05:06] <vegombrei> hi, i recently downloaded ubuntu and burnt the image on a dvd. trying to install it on my vaio laptop and when i boot it just shows a blank sceen and doesnt seem to boot from dvd, ive done this many times i cant think of whats gone wrong
[05:06] <Beldar> NewGuy, Link?
[05:07] <cfhowlett> vegombrei, try it from USB
[05:07] <Beldar> vegombrei, Have you sum checked the iso or disc?
[05:07] <vegombrei> cfhowlett does it make a difference?
[05:07] <NewGuy> Beldar: https://code.google.com/p/webcamstudio/
[05:07] <cfhowlett> vegombrei, "should not" but ---
[05:08] <cfhowlett> !md5sum | vegombrei, as beldar suggested: check the ISO and the disk
[05:08] <NewGuy> Beldar: this is the versioon i am trying to run its a deb file https://code.google.com/p/webcamstudio/downloads/detail?name=webcamstudio_0.57beta4_all.deb&can=2&q=
[05:08] <vegombrei> cfhowlett hmm brb checking
[05:09] <icewalker> hi, i am currently running v14.04, is safe or recommend to run dist-upgrade?
[05:09] <Beldar> NewGuy, Well 3rd party stuff, not even supported anymore, are you sure this is the best path, technically not supported here is all,.
[05:10] <cfhowlett> icewalker, latest version is 14.04.1 - no reason not to upgrade
[05:10] <Beldar> icewalker, yes safe is just a in release call.
[05:11] <NewGuy> Beldar: ok maybe i will try something else. thanks anyway
[05:12] <icewalker> i did spend a lot added packages with add-apt-repository (maybe 3rd party stuffs), don't things to start breaking or malfunction by doing a dist-upgrade if i don't need to
[05:13] <Beldar> icewalker, NO.
[05:13] <Beldar> icewalker, Don't do any partial upgrades is all.
[05:13] <icewalker> dist-upgrade will take to 14.10, isn't that still a beta?
[05:13] <cfhowlett> icewalker,  dist-upgrade WILL NOT go to 14.10
[05:14] <icewalker> oh
[05:14] <Beldar> that is Doh. ;)
[05:14] <vegombrei> cfhowlett: md5sum is ok
[05:14] <icewalker> ok, will run a dist-upgrade than. thanks
[05:15] <cfhowlett> vegombrei, on ISO and DVD?  then something else is happening.  try USB
[05:15] <vegombrei> dvd bro
[05:15] <cfhowlett> vegombrei, so you didn't check the ISO?  errrrrrrrrrrrr ....
[05:16] <Beldar> vegombrei, For the record I did once have a good md5sum and still could not get it working, a new download worked.
[05:16] <vegombrei> cfhowlett, downloaded the image and made the bootable dvd,
[05:16] <cfhowlett> vegombrei, did - you - verify - the - downloaded - ISO?
[05:17] <vegombrei> cfhowlett, i really didnt know i needed to
[05:18] <vegombrei> cfhowlett, ill do it now, how dows one verify it?
[05:18] <cfhowlett> !md5sum | vegombrei, well, gee, it's only been suggested to you 4 times.  Bad downloads happen.  Read the link
[05:18] <icewalker> n
[05:19] <icewalker> oops!
[05:22] <akurilin> hey folks: is there a way to set the default volume of bluetooth devices if you're using ubuntu speakers for other devices connecting to it?
[05:24] <cfhowlett> vegombrei, ???
[05:24] <tac_> Can someone help me figure out how I might do this:
[05:25] <tac_> I have a laptop. When I'm on wifi, I'd like to use DHCP to get my IP address. Wired, though, I'd like to pick a static IP on the LAN.
[05:25] <tac_> is that kind of thing possible?
[05:26] <vegombrei> cfhowlett, thc error sorry bro.
[05:27] <sammy007> Is it harmful for system to use ~2K DROP iptables rules?
[05:28] <vegombrei> cfhowlett, so i checked the md5sum compared it and it says its different .. does that mean i gotta download ubuntu image again?
[05:28] <cfhowlett> vegombrei, the ISO had an error?  Happens.  Suggest you torrent the ISO for added hash sum checking during download.  Then make a new USB/DVD
[05:28] <cfhowlett> vegombrei, I NEVER download images --- 2 gigs is way too many chances for it to go wrong.  torrent is more paranoid about verifying those bits
[05:28] <vegombrei> cfhowlett ah i didnt think it had a torrent i downloaded it from the website thinking it would be latest and most secure
[05:29] <cfhowlett> vegombrei, all images from ubuntu have torrent options
[05:29] <Tex_Nick> tac_: short answer yes ... in "Network Connections" you can edit both wired & wireless connections
[05:29] <vegombrei> cfhowlett, i didnt think of that, hey thanks ill download the file from vuze and try again
[05:29] <cfhowlett> vegombrei, wait, what?  vuze?
[05:30] <cfhowlett> !info vuze
[05:30] <cfhowlett> vegombrei, got it.  go for it!
[05:34] <hateball> tac_: You can even set up multiple profiles for different interfaces, so you can easily switch between dhcp/static for LAN as well
[05:34] <tac_> oh, that's nice
[05:42] <daskdt> test
[05:42] <daskdt> anyone in here on empathy
[05:44] <__machine> why when i run openssl s_client -connect store.syrinscape.com:443 on a ubuntu box (tried a few) it says Verify code return: 20 (unable to get local issuer certificate) but when i run the same on an OSX box it says Verify return code: 0 (ok) … ?
[05:45] <__machine> if I add -CAfile /etc/ssl/certs/GeoTrust_Global_CA.pem to linux then i also get Verify return code: 0 (ok)
[05:46] <Tex_Nick> daskdt: If you have an empathy specific question ... post it providing as much detail as you can ... ie: I want it to do this, I've tried it this way ... results are ...
[05:47] <cfhowlett> !details | daskdt,
[05:47] <daskdt> is there a way to hide icons in irc channels and ignore join/part notifications
[05:47] <cfhowlett> daskdt, depends on your IRC client
[05:47] <daskdt> empathy
[05:47] <cfhowlett> daskdt, I have no empathy - never thought I'd say that.
[05:48] <daskdt> :) It's fine, I might just use a different one
[05:48] <Tex_Nick> cfhowlett: LOL
[05:52] <Sachiru> Query: Ubuntu 14.04 is currently on what kernel version?
[05:52] <_jack_> 3.13 iirc
[05:54] <Sachiru> How about 14.10?
[05:55] <alfonso82_> off-topic: what's a good book to learn the theoretical stuff about programming
[05:55] <somsip> !ot | alfonso82_, :-)
[05:57] <Tex_Nick> Sachiru: Crystal Ball forecasting is not implemented here ;)
[05:57] <Sachiru> Sorry
[05:57] <Sachiru> Thought that 14.10 was already out
[05:57] <Sachiru> Just saw that it's in alpha
[05:57] <Sachiru> Hmm, latest stable kernel is 3.16, just wondering how to get that onto my system
[05:57] <Sachiru> Without breaking it, of course.
[05:59] <daskdt> testing
[06:01] <Tex_Nick> daskdt: the channel #test is provided for testing
[06:03] <daskdt> Thanks Tex_Nick
[06:03] <Tex_Nick> np :)
[06:06] <netlar> Anyone have success setting up bluetooth speakers on 14.04?
[06:07] <netlar> I have a fresh install, but when I try to pair up the speakers, the speakers are not found by Ubuntu
[06:08] <netlar> I know it is not the speakers, I have paired them up wiht my Mac no problem
[06:10] <netlar> Do I need to install a certain package for bluetooth?
[06:11] <daskdt> Anyone know  of a program like Popcorn Time but for books?
[06:13] <netlar> Do I need Blueman installed?
[06:29] <jerry> hello hello
[06:35] <daskdt> hi Jerry
[06:35] <netlar> daskdt: Hi
[06:36] <joules> hi, anyone experienced with live-boot? I need it to custom mount (aufs) via fstab, however it's doing it too early. I need to set "mount -a" last. Any tips?
[06:36] <marjinal1st> How can I extact values from terminals grepped output? I'm listing my git tags, it's showing like "blabla bla (tag: 1.1.0)", I need to extract tag info with grep. How can I do it?
[06:37] <joules> marjinal1st: extract to what?
[06:37] <marjinal1st> joules: on console or file doesn't matter, I need the list.
[06:37] <joules> VAR=$(<somecommand> | grep -i <somevalue>)
[06:38] <joules> oh you need awk or maybe you can get away with cut
[06:38] <joules> depends on what you want to extract exactly.
[06:40] <mike_o> If I've created a ppa and made some changes to the files that I pushed, what is the series of commands to commit the change I've made, then push them to the ppa? Does debuild -i -I -S make those changes or do I need to add something else
[06:41] <frib> how can i fix kernel panic on returning from hibernate?
[06:41] <ikonia> mike_o: you've made the changes in the source deb, so when you rebuild the package in the PPA, it will change them
[06:41] <joules> frib: fix? It's a panic, it's done.
[06:42] <frib> joules, prevent it from happening
[06:42] <frib> i.e. next time i try to hibernate
[06:43] <joules> frib: likely a compatability issue.
[06:43] <frib> joules, any way to confirm that?
[06:43] <mike_o> ikonia: Thanks :)
[06:43] <joules> frib: hibernate is touch an go, works with *most* devices.
[06:43] <cccp3> Hello
[06:43] <joules> Unless you've have gone and done something stupid.
[06:44] <cccp3> Turns out, nobody is awake on #ubuntu-offtopic
[06:44] <joules> Which is always a possibility.
[06:44] <ikonia> cccp3: we don't need to hear about it in #ubuntu
[06:44] <frib> joules, so you're saying there is no way to know if my device is compatible?
[06:45] <joules> damn my psychic powers aren't working today.
[06:45] <frib> no but your gratuitous sarcasm is in full force
[06:46] <frib> i'm a human being asking politely for help
[06:46] <frib> now i'm done
[06:46] <joules> good bye.
[06:47] <ikonia> frib: hang on
[06:47] <ikonia> joules: tone it down please
[06:47] <JKDL> hello yall i have a question is there any way to install ubuntu using wireless via the installation?
[06:48] <ikonia> frib: suspend / hibernate have come a long way from where they where, however there are still certain devices/situations that can cause problems
[06:48] <ikonia> frib: a common problem is how closed source kernel modules deal with suspect, nvdia/ati/broadcom used to be a common problem, now nvidia/ati are really the regular problems
[06:48] <ikonia> frib: are you using nvidia or ati modules ?
[06:49] <frib> ikonia, this is a new pc so i'm not sure what the video card is, i didn't see anything ati or nvidia in lspci
[06:50] <ikonia> frib: is it a pc or laptop
[06:50] <frib> laptop
[06:50] <ikonia> frib: so there is a possibility it's using an optimus video card which is why it's not showing up
[06:50] <ikonia> frib: what's the make/model
[06:50] <frib> hp envy 15 j063cl
[06:51] <JKDL> any ideas?
[06:52] <frib> JKDL i'm pretty sure there is that option but you need to get the basic installer at least, i may be wrong though
[06:52] <ikonia> frib: looks like it's all intel
[06:52] <frib> JKDL, your wifi card would have to be compatible out of the box too
[06:52] <JKDL> i'll be using atheros drivers,
[06:52] <frib> ikonia, so that's technically good right?
[06:52] <ikonia> frib: yeah,
[06:53] <ikonia> frib: check the network card model please, as that's not listed on the website
[06:53] <frib> Network controller: Broadcom Corporation BCM4352 802.11ac Wireless Network Adapter
[06:53] <frib> and Ethernet controller: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. RTL8111/8168/8411 PCI Express Gigabit Ethernet Controlle
[06:53] <ikonia> frib: ok, so broadcom is a possible cause/problem too as I said earlier, just not as often these days
[06:54] <ikonia> frib: disable that device (the wireless one) blacklist the kernel module and test it
[06:54] <frib> ok how do i find out which kernel module?
[06:55] <ikonia> frib: it's called "bcm"
[06:55] <frib> that's not in lsmod
[06:55] <ikonia> frib: then you'll need to check the docs for that card
[06:56] <ikonia> to see what the module is currently called
[06:56] <ikonia> bcm$something
[06:56] <ikonia> is the norm
[06:58] <frib> ikonia, lspci -v says wl is the kernel driver in use for the wifi card
[06:58] <frib> but http://wireless.kernel.org/en/users/Drivers/b43 also says that BCM4352 is not supported
[06:58] <frib> which i don't really get since the card is working
[06:58] <ikonia> frib: I don't know the wl module - I'm not aware of it's status
[06:59] <ikonia> frib: it could be the way ndis works these days ?
[06:59] <ikonia> frib: but if it's unsupported I'd say you have a starting point
[07:00] <frib> how can i get the vendor:product things just to be sure its the same card
[07:00] <ikonia> frib: hwinfo
[07:00] <Ben64> https://wiki.debian.org/wl
[07:00] <ikonia> thanks Ben64
[07:01] <Ben64> no problem, spoiler - it's proprietary
[07:01] <frib> can't seem to get hwinfo
[07:02] <frib> hwinfo doesn't appear to exist anymore after 13
[07:03] <jtruent> I'm trying to install grub but it keeps giving me a /usr/sbin/grub-probe: error: no such disk.
[07:03] <jtruent> errpr
[07:03] <jtruent> s/p/o
[07:03] <frib> how can I blacklist a kernel module?
[07:03] <jtruent> any ideas
[07:03] <ikonia> jtruent: grub should already be installed
[07:03] <frib> ill just try it with wl and see if hibernate works
[07:03] <ikonia> jtruent: why are you installing it ?
[07:03] <ikonia> frib: should still be in the repos
[07:03] <ikonia> frib: you may need to install it
[07:04] <frib> ikonia, package hwinfo doesn't exist
[07:04] <jtruent> ikonia: installation failed in the install
[07:04] <ikonia> jtruent: why ?
[07:05] <ikonia> frib: the hal dependency appears to have forced it's removal
[07:05] <jtruent> good question
[07:05] <ikonia> wasn't aware of that sorry
[07:05] <smittix> Has anyone experienced any problems installing the latest nvidia drivers and the system not booting after?
[07:05] <frib> ikonia, no problem
[07:05] <frib> i'm going to blacklist wl and see what happens
[07:05] <frib> do i need to unload the module before hibernating?
[07:05] <ikonia> frib: worth a test
[07:05] <ikonia> frib: if it's blacklisted it won't get loaded
[07:06] <frib> ok /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist -> blacklist wl, right?
[07:06] <ikonia> that should do it
[07:06] <frib> ok brb
[07:08] <frib> now when i click hibernate it just brings me to lock screen
[07:09] <ikonia> frib: looks like you've found your problem though
[07:09] <frib> seem like a different problem i though
[07:09] <ikonia> yes
[07:10] <ikonia> but you now have a less serious one to work through
[07:10] <frib> oh goodie
[07:10] <frib> why would it do this now all of a sudden i haven't changed anything since i tried to hibernate last time
[07:10] <ikonia> come on ??? "why would it do this" ????
[07:10] <ikonia> so far you've given no information and done no investigation
[07:10] <Tex_Nick> process of elimination can be a long journey ;)
[07:11] <ikonia> you came in with a kernel panic - you've resolved that
[07:11] <ikonia> you have to do a little work to resolve issues
[07:11] <frib> i didn't resolve the kernel panic
[07:11] <frib> i didn't even hibernate
[07:11] <ikonia> is it still panicing ?
[07:11] <frib> no because i couldnt get to that point
[07:11] <ikonia> ok
[07:11] <ikonia> so look at what the hibernate button is calling and run it manually
[07:12] <ikonia> or maually run hibernate/suspend
[07:12] <frib> pm-hibernate like before?
[07:12] <ikonia> or try re-enabling the module and seeing if it does hibernate
[07:12] <ikonia> see if the problem is tied to the change you've made or not
[07:12] <frib> i thought blacklist would only effect after reboot
[07:12] <frib> i'll try it anyway though
[07:12] <ikonia> have you not rebooted ?
[07:13] <phasip> Have I understood it correct, is nvidia-current the legacy driver and nvidia-340 the newest?
[07:13] <frib> no that's what i'm saying i didn't hibernate when i clicked hibernate it just went to lock screen
[07:13] <ikonia> frib: why are you trying to hibernate if you've not reboote
[07:13] <cccp3> !register
[07:13] <ikonia> rebooteed
[07:13] <ikonia> frib: I told you to black list it and check
[07:13] <frib> i didn't know i needed to reboot
[07:13] <ikonia> frib: why are you doing something different ?
[07:13] <ikonia> frib: you did
[07:13] <ikonia> you just told me you did
[07:13] <ikonia> frib: and I told you "if you black list it, it stops it from loading"
[07:14] <ikonia> it only loads at boot time
[07:14] <frib> after hibernate i thought
[07:14] <frib> so, reboot, then hibernate ?
[07:14] <ikonia> yes
[07:14] <frib> ok
[07:15] <Sven_vB> hi, trying to upgrade, is there anything i can do about those? / W: Failed to fetch http://ppa.launchpad.net/chrysn/openscad/ubuntu/dists/trusty/main/source/Sources  404  Not Found / W: Failed to fetch http://ppa.launchpad.net/chrysn/openscad/ubuntu/dists/trusty/main/binary-i386/Packages  404  Not Found
[07:16] <frib> ok the blacklist didn't seem to work because wl is loaded
[07:16] <ikonia> Sven_vB: you should have removed all the PPA's and PPA software before upgrading
[07:16] <ikonia> frib: do you have a hardware kill switch for the wireless
[07:16] <frib> i think so but i don't think it works
[07:16] <frib> ill try it
[07:16] <Sven_vB> ikonia, ok, thanks
[07:17] <frib> yea it worked
[07:17] <frib> so just kill it with that and reboot/hibernate?
[07:18] <ikonia> frib: test yes
[07:24] <frib> ikonia, i tried to disable the wifi with the keyboard button but i noticed that it was getting switched back on/off before/during the hibernate but something interesting happened when i resumed, it said that my graphics could not be detected and asked me if i wanted to see the xserver log and startup errors etc.
[07:25] <frib> the startup errors didn't show anything but the xserver log did but i couldn't save it because the boot was unsuccessful .. maybe they're in /var/log/Xorg* ?
[07:25] <ikonia> the boot was unsucessful ?
[07:26] <frib> like it sent me to a terminal
[07:26] <ikonia> I'd concentrate on why your wireless card is not blacklisted properly
[07:26] <ikonia> then move forward from there
[07:27] <frib> do i need to run sudo update-initramfs -u ?
[07:28] <greek> Heya. I use Ubuntu 12.04 with a standard GNOME terminal, and I have configured my terminal profile to use a background image. I'd like to automatically change this image once a day based on a file in a specified folder. How can I go about doing this? Thanks.
[07:28] <ikonia> frib: don't see why
[07:28] <ikonia> greek: point at a symlink and change the symlink target via a script
[07:29] <cccp3> yep
[07:29] <frib> ikonia, a web page says i should blacklist all the modules that depend on wl in order to blacklist it properly does that sound right?
[07:29] <cccp3> just make a new symlink everyday
[07:30] <cccp3> frib: might be
[07:30] <ikonia> frib: I thought that was a none issue as if modules depended on it, it would fail as it was blacklisted
[07:30] <frib> got it from here: http://askubuntu.com/questions/92826/module-loaded-even-though-its-blacklisted
[07:30] <ikonia> frib: check the dependencies with modinfo
[07:31] <frib> http://paste.ubuntu.com/8051622/
[07:31] <frib> cfg80211 and lib80211
[07:32] <ikonia> frib: yeah, blacklist those, that's ok
[07:32] <frib> ok rebooting
[07:36] <frib> they all loaded despite being blacklisted
[07:36] <ikonia> so something must need them as a dependency and is calling them
[07:36] <ikonia> walk the kernel tree
[07:36] <ikonia> and see what depends on them
[07:36] <frib> ikonia, shouldn't any dependencies show up in lsmod | grep wl ?
[07:37] <ikonia> frib: no, that's what wl needs as dependency
[07:37] <ikonia> frib: if something needs wl as a dependecy it will call it
[07:37] <ikonia> although I have to admit, I thought that behaviour had stopped
[07:37] <sweet> iam runing ubuntu12.04 but when iam trying to skype it doesnt work definitly iam sure it is correct my  username and password is there any help ?
[07:38] <frib> i checked cfg80211  and lib802111 only the latter needs lib80211_crypt_tkip and i already blacklisted that
[07:38] <frib> and that one doesn't depend on anything else
[07:38] <ikonia> frib: what actually needs wl though
[07:38] <frib> ok sorry i'm not sure how to check that
[07:39] <ikonia> frib: check the modules that are loaded and see if any of them list wl as their dependencies
[07:39] <frib> shouldn't that show up in lsmod | grep wl ?
[07:39] <ikonia> no
[07:39] <ikonia> nothing more
[07:39] <ikonia> lsmod just lists modules
[07:39] <frib> ikonia, it also lists dependencies if i'm not mistaken
[07:39] <ikonia> oh, I see what you mean
[07:40] <ikonia> sorry, I thought you where saying as in the tree
[07:40] <frib> np
[07:40] <somsip> !info zabbix-agent
[07:40] <somsip> !info zabbix-server-mysql
[07:40] <ikonia> frib: any easy cheat for a simple test, is to (be careful) move the module for a test
[07:41] <ikonia> frib: so it's not in the correct place when it's tries to be loaded
[07:41] <sweet> iam runing ubuntu12.04 but when iam trying to login  skype it doesnt work definitly iam sure it is correct my  username and password is there any help ?
[07:42] <frib> ikonia, would it hurt to just ry update initramfs?
[07:42] <ikonia> frib: not really, but I don't see why you would as that's preboot
[07:44] <Capprentice> How can I create a squid cache to cache youtube videos on Ubuntu server? I need a overview...
[07:45] <ikonia> Capprentice: squid is cached on vering
[07:45] <ikonia> viewing
[07:45] <ikonia> vewiing
[07:47] <pear_> s
[07:47] <Capprentice> Here is what I have.. I have a Central Server, through which all other computers connect to the Internet. What I want here is to Cache most of the stuffs the users watch or download. How do I do that with Squid?
[07:48] <ikonia> Capprentice: squid will build up a cache as it's used
[07:48] <Capprentice> Should I follow this - http://aacable.wordpress.com/2012/08/13/youtube-caching-with-squid-nginx/ Will you kindly check if this is okay to follow? - ikonia
[07:49] <Capprentice> I mean not outdated.
[07:49] <ikonia> Capprentice: looks worthless
[07:49] <ikonia> it's for squid 2
[07:50] <ikonia> Capprentice: there is also a pointless nginx install, I see no reason why that is installed
[07:50] <Capprentice> Yes...now the squid version I have here is 3.3. 12!
[07:52] <frib> where can i find the modules directory in ubuntu 14?
[07:52] <ikonia> frib: /lib/modules/$kernel
[07:53] <neps> hi
[07:53] <neps> all
[07:54] <frib> find ./ -iname 'wl' returns nothing in that directory :\
[07:54] <neps> What is the difference between running Ubuntu / linux on VM and without VM
[07:55] <neps> more detailed pls
[07:55] <ikonia> frib: modules are called "ko"
[07:55] <ikonia> neps: the hardware
[07:55] <ikonia> thats it
[07:55] <frib> ikonia, so should i look for wl.ko or something ?
[07:55] <ikonia> frib: when you did the modinfo it gave you the full path to the module
[07:55] <frib> oh ok
[07:56] <frib> so ill just temporarily 'misplace' that file
[07:56] <neps> where can i find explanation of kernel code line by line
[07:56] <neps> docs created by doc generator sucks
[07:56] <ikonia> neps: you can't
[07:57] <Symian> neps: I get the feeling you don't realize just how complicated the Linux kernel is. You probably need 20+ years of targetted experience to grok it.
[07:58] <neps> ok, but it would be great if people can learn lots programming principles from actual code
[07:59] <neps> if it documented line by line
[07:59] <ikonia> that's not really a discussion for this channel
[08:00] <Symian> neps: you can do that fine with numerous open source projects. But trying to get a line-by-line explanation + get educated off the Linux Kernel is like trying to learn Shakespeare after grade 2 English.
[08:00] <frib> ikonia, after moving wl.ko the hibernate worked fine
[08:00] <ikonia> frib: how interesting,
[08:00] <frib> maybe it was just a one time thing i don't know
[08:01] <ikonia> frib: test to confirm
[08:01] <frib> but i still don't get why that module works with my bcm4352 its not supposed to according to the docs
[08:01] <ikonia> frib: docs say it does
[08:02] <frib> i guess i was looking at the wrong docs then
[08:02] <neps> Ok, but if you see programmers learn to code only from other's code. let me clarify that: Programmers write programs, other programmers sees the program, get the extracts from it and it comes for publishing as texts / docs
[08:03] <neps> do you agree
[08:03] <ikonia> neps: that is not for this channel
[08:03] <ikonia> neps: this channel is for ubuntu support
[08:03] <frib> ikonia, i see, it was b43 that doesn't support it and wl is the alternative
[08:03] <Symian> neps: I don't see how this relates to Ubuntu support either..
[08:03] <frib> ikonia, going to test again
[08:03] <ikonia> frib: correct
[08:05] <sveinse> What is the rules for selecting compilers in Ubuntu? On trusty, I have installed both gcc-4.8-arm-linux-gnueabihf *and* gcc-4.7-arm-linux-gnueabihf. When I run "arm-linux-gnueabihf-gcc --version" I get 4.7.3, even though the binary is pointing to the 4.8 executable
[08:06] <ikonia> sveinse: follow all symlinks
[08:06] <saruman> hello
[08:06] <saruman> I'm quite new with ubuntu server, I just installed the 14.04 version
[08:07] <Guest56030> I'm trying to set a static IP but in the interfaces file I just have P3P1 and not ETH0
[08:08] <Guest56030> does anyone know how to configure it?
[08:08] <helmut_> hi
[08:08] <Guest56030> Can I set static IP on P3P1 or I have to change to ETH0
[08:09] <ikonia> Guest56030: exactly the same to p3p1
[08:09] <ikonia> Guest56030: p3p1 eth0 are just names
[08:09] <ikonia> Guest56030: if your device is called p3p1 use that name
[08:09] <Guest56030> ohh, ok. Thanks!
[08:09] <Guest56030> I'll give it a try right now!
[08:09] <Guest56030> Thank you, Ikonia!
[08:10] <sveinse> ikonia: I do. I suppose the general symlink gcc-arm-linux-gnueabihf is an alternative. Where I can I configure such things?
[08:10] <ikonia> sveinse: /etc/alternatives
[08:10] <frib> ikonia, it worked again.  so im assuming that was the problem
[08:10] <elmaestro> why is my printer status reading paused?
[08:10] <frib> ikonia, is there a way to make it permanent?
[08:10] <ikonia> frib: yeah, nvidia/ati/broadcom are normally the problem, although broadcom less so
[08:11] <frib> is there anything we can do ?
[08:11] <ikonia> frib: closed source module......
[08:12] <sveinse> ikonia, and when the compiler is not in /etc/alternatives, then I can assume that the choice of using 4.8 as standard compiler is fixed by Ubuntu, and that I /have/ to postfix with gcc-4.7?
[08:12] <frib> so i could change wifi card
[08:13] <ikonia> sveinse: I don't think you can assume that
[08:13] <ikonia> frib: if you can, that would be a great fix
[08:13] <frib> i believe i have this: 14e4:4322
[08:13] <frib> 	
[08:13] <frib> not tested
[08:13] <frib> 	
[08:13] <frib> BCM4322	b/g/n	N (r4)
[08:14] <frib> sorry :\
[08:14] <unopaste> frib you have been muted for 60 seconds as it looks like you are pasting lots of lines into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com and paste just the URL of your data here when you are unmuted
[08:15] <sveinse> ikonia: This is a little unfortunate you see. A lot of tools for cross compiling, including the kernel, uses a compiler setup similar to GCC=$(CROSS_COMPILE)gcc  . When I have to use *-gcc-4.7 as command it is inherently difficult to specify without having to change the overall compiler config on the server
[08:15] <ikonia> frib: no problem, accidents happen
[08:16] <frib> the only thing.. my other wifi card still uses broadcom but i  think a different driver, not wl
[08:16] <ikonia> sveinse: apologgies I don't see the problem
[08:16] <sveinse> ikonia: g++-4.8-arm-linux-gnueabihf is BROKEN for cross compiling Qt 4.8. It dies with an internal error, so I have to use gcc 4.7
[08:16] <ikonia> sveinse: yes, I understand what you want to use
[08:16] <ikonia> sveinse: I don't understand what's stopping you
[08:19] <sveinse> How to specify gcc-4.7 when the internal source of the SW I'm about to compile uses GCC=$(CROSS_COMPILE)gcc. I can set CROSS_COMPILE=arm-linux-gnueabihf, but not specify 4.7 because Ubuntu unfortunately uses the compiler version as postfix, and not in-fix in way where I could use it in the CROSS_COMPILE string :(
[08:20] <ikonia> sveinse: the version should be 4-7 so surly that should work ?
[08:21] <sveinse> ikonia: sorry, come again?
[08:21] <ikonia> sveinse: if it uses the version as a prefix, if the version is 4.7 then it would prefix 4.7 so you should be "ok" ?
[08:21] <ikonia> unless I'm not fully understanding the problem you are describing
[08:24] <sveinse> ikonia: Yes. If Ubuntu were to use "arm-linux-gnueabi-4.7-gcc" everything would be much easier, so my opinion was that they chose to postfix the version number after gcc was a bad one. Of course it is easy to add a symlink in /usr/local/bin to whatever you want, but IMHO not elegant
[08:29] <CodeGosu> is there in ubuntu any comand, 'sudo i_migratted_instalation_to_other_pc_plz_reinstall_any_drivers_and_dont_ask_questions_ktnx" ?
[08:31] <ikonia> CodeGosu: you don't need to do that
[08:31] <ikonia> CodeGosu: there is no need to "reinstall" drivers
[08:31] <ikonia> CodeGosu: the only ones which may need to change are propritary ones specific to hardware in the source machine/target machine
[08:35] <CodeGosu> i migrated ubuntu from pc with nvidia cpu to usb drive, booting from other pc that runs on integrated results to splash screen that goes no where, it stops on 'resume libgcrypt'. in recovery mode ( that strangly boots to long ) there is 'initctl event failed'. i can  get to root promt but im not sure what to do there
[08:35] <ikonia> crypt ?
[08:35] <pikaren> is there any software that can limit the time i spend on non-productive website each day
[08:35] <ikonia> thats encypted disks
[08:35] <ikonia> that's not going to work
[08:35] <ikonia> pikaren: self control
[08:35] <CodeGosu> disks arent encrypted
[08:36] <cwt137> Hello. I just did the latest updates and now my scrollwheel goes 1.5 screens down the page instead of 1
[08:36] <pikaren> ikonia: seems it hasn't been updated for a couple years or so
[08:36] <cynicallemon> ikonia: +1 for common sense
[08:36] <maximoto> when i'm connecting a mtp device to linux (ubuntu), where can i find it mounted in my folders? i don't find it in /mnt nor /mount
[08:36] <cwt137> how do I adjust the scrollwheel?
[08:36] <ikonia> maximoto: IF it mounts, it will be in /media/$something
[08:37] <eeee> cwt137: xinput --list --short
[08:37] <maximoto> ikonia: i can navigate it on dolphin, but it's not in /media either
[08:37] <ikonia> maximoto:  where does the path show in dolphin ?
[08:38] <maximoto> mtp:/XT1039/Internal storage/
[08:38] <ikonia> maximoto: then it's not mounting it
[08:38] <frib> ikonia, i changed the wifi card and then tried to hibernate.. the first time i resumed to grub and session was not saved.  second time session was saved but then i "teleported" from desktop to grub somehow, then i tried a 3rd time and resumed to grub
[08:38] <maximoto> ikonia: it's not mounting it even though i can still use it normally?
[08:38] <ikonia> frib: changed the wifi card in a laptop ?
[08:38] <frib> ikonia, yea
[08:38] <cwt137> eeee: http://paste.ubuntu.com/8051992/
[08:38] <ikonia> maximoto: correct
[08:39] <ikonia> frib: what did you change it to ?
[08:39] <frib> bcm4322 broadcom-sta
[08:39] <frib> previously it was wl
[08:39] <ikonia> that's ANOTHER broadcom
[08:39] <cwt137> one tick of the scrollwheel goes too far down the page
[08:39] <frib> i know but it's all I have
[08:39] <frib> and given that it uses a different driver ithought maybe ...
[08:39] <ikonia> yes, but as I said broadcom is the problem
[08:39] <ikonia> nah
[08:40] <frib> is there a wifi card that is linux/ubuntu compatible ??
[08:40] <frib> like a good cheap one
[08:40] <ikonia> intel
[08:41] <sh4tr> how are intel's video drives working with linux, good/bad? hasswel's igpu?
[08:41] <frib> stupid broadcom
[08:41] <maximoto> thanks
[08:41] <ikonia> sh4tr: just fine
[08:42] <eeee> cwt137: xinput --list-props 15
[08:42] <eeee> or xinput --list-props "ETPS/2 Elantech Touchpad"
[08:43] <frib> ikonia, do you know the technical name for these laptop wifi cards are they pcmcia?
[08:43] <ikonia> frib: depends on the laptop and the interface
[08:43] <frib> its a little square chip with black and white wires that snap on to them
[08:44] <ubuntuser13> hello! everyone
[08:44] <frib> i think its mini pcie
[08:44] <cwt137> eeee: sorry, I forgot to say im using a microsoft wireless mouse. it is id# 10 or 11
[08:45] <bartmon> Hey. I need to install a 32-bit verison of the OpenGL library mesa on my 64-bit ubuntu. I just can't find the package names, can someone assist?
[08:45] <eeee> cwt137: try one, but i'm not sure it'll work since it's an external mouse
[08:46] <mjt> hello.  Where on internet I can see if a given package is available on (current) ubuntu main or ubuntu universe?
[08:46] <mjt> (i'm not a ubuntu user)
[08:46] <DJones> mjt: http://packages.ubuntu.com/
[08:46] <mjt> heh. Quite similar to debian. Thanks!
[08:47] <ubuntuser13> no unity , no launcher only background and cursor in admin session? i don't know how to solve this.
[08:47] <cwt137> eee: id=10 http://paste.ubuntu.com/8052057/
[08:47] <eeee> ubuntuser13: maybe a crashed session file?
[08:48] <frib> ikonia, would this work? Intel 6235AN.HMWWB Centrino Advanced-N 6235
[08:48] <ubuntuser13> eeee: i did fresh ubuntu install three times . but after updates it occurs again.
[08:48] <cwt137> eee: id=11 http://paste.ubuntu.com/8052065/
[08:48] <ikonia> frib: most intels are %100 fine
[08:48] <ikonia> frib: the ones that are not are %99 fine
[08:48] <Ben64> ubuntuser13: "admin session" ? what are you trying to do
[08:48] <cwt137> eeee: id=11 http://paste.ubuntu.com/8052065/
[08:48] <ikonia> frib: I'd say you would be fine
[08:49] <frib> ikonia, can i be sure it will be compatible with my hp laptop?
[08:49] <ikonia> frib: ask hp
[08:49] <ubuntuser13> Ben64: nothing, it means my normal session, in guest session everything working fine.
[08:50] <eeee> cwt137: on my touchpad there's a property called Scrolling distance, which controls the scrolling
[08:51] <cwt137> eeee: yeah. whatever the default was, was increased by a lot in the updates I did yesterday
[08:52] <cwt137> eeee: I wonder where the default for all pointing devices is
[08:52] <daGrevis> hi! any help much appreciated. http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2239307
[08:53] <eeee> ubuntuser13: try ~./cache/.../ and rename the session file
[08:54] <eeee> * ~/.cache/....
[08:54] <sveinse> Has anyone had any success with getting Optimus (nvidia+intel gfx) with 14.04 (on Lenovo W530)?
[08:54] <eeee> cwt137: do you have the scrolling distance in id=15?
[08:55] <daGrevis> sveinse, sounds like something I have
[08:55] <cwt137> eeee: yes. it is -78
[08:55] <daGrevis> sveinse, is your shutdown working properly? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2239307
[08:56] <ubuntuser13> eeee: i do a fresh install 2 hours ago, i want to know the reason behind this. according a launchpad page this might due to ati readon and lightdm bug.
[08:56] <sveinse> daGrevis: Yes, haven't noticed any problems with shutdown
[08:56] <paulus68> I have upgraded to the  latest kernel however uname -r is still showing that I use the 3.13.0-29-generic instead of the 3.13.0-34-generic how do I modify this so that the latest version is used
[08:57] <eeee> cwt137: it seems that external mice don't have this property, but you can try messing with the mouse wheel inertia and other mouse wheel properties, dont know if it would work though
[08:57] <DJones> sveinse: I've got a Lenovo Y510p and used nvidia-prime rather than optimus, for me, that worked out of the box
[08:57] <daGrevis> this is bad.
[08:58] <sveinse> DJones: I does for me as well, but it hogs the battery compared to using intel gfx and I'm a lot on the move. However intel gfx does not allow me to use multiple monitors :(
[08:58] <cwt137> eeee: weird. I haven't unplugged the mouse since the upgrade. After unplugging and plugging back in, the mouse started to work perfectly
[08:58] <cwt137> eeee: thanks for your help
[08:58] <eeee> great
[08:58] <eeee> np
[08:58] <Beldar> paulus68, What does sudo update-grub say, is this the only Linux install on the computer?
[09:00] <paulus68> Beldar http://pastebin.com/g8R4XwVH
[09:01] <Beldar> paulus68, You are using grub legacy did you know that?
[09:01] <paulus68> no I didn't know that
[09:02] <paulus68> is that a problem.
[09:02] <Beldar> paulus68, Has not been the stock install for a long time now, grub 2 updates the kernel installs automatically.
[09:03] <paulus68> how do I upgrade to the latest grub?
[09:04] <siru> hi ... having a problem with ubuntu 12.04 and dublicity sftp:// or scp:// does not work
[09:04] <CodeGosu> after long time with 'resume: libgcrypt' text i get could not stat resume device /dev/sdb4 press enter to continue, i migrated old image to new pc. how do i remove 'stat of resume deivce' from boot?
[09:04] <Beldar> paulus68, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2/Upgrading
[09:05] <siru> hmm
[09:05] <siru> never mind ...
[09:06] <urban_cohort> Hello, when I try to install automake (sudo apt-get install automake1.10), get an error abour opencl-dev. Here is what it says http://pastie.org/9475320
[09:06] <urban_cohort> and when I type sudo apt-get -f install, get same: http://pastie.org/9475321
[09:07] <paulus68> Beldar I have a seperate boot partition do I just select that option after clicking OK on the first screen of the install?
[09:09] <Beldar> paulus68, The blank configuring grub-pc?
[09:09] <rjsalts> urban_cohort: it has nothing to do with automake. You have a previous run installing opencl-devel which has left it unconfigured because it failed on postinst
[09:10] <daGrevis> is it safe for me to run rm -rf /var/log/* if i want to clear all logs?
[09:10] <Beldar> paulus68, do you mean the 3rd picture on the link?
[09:11] <paulus68> Beldar when you run sudo apt-get install grub-pc I get the first printscreen mentioned on the page you sent me, then after clicking OK I get this screen https://www.dropbox.com/s/m5kqpxdurok0dbh/Screenshot%20from%202014-08-15%2011%3A08%3A36.png
[09:11] <rjsalts> daGrevis: It'll break stuff, you might want to do find /var/log -type f -delete instead and then restart all of the daemons that had log files open ...
[09:11] <Beldar> paulus68, If sdc is the sdc is the choice it's mbr
[09:12] <Beldar> paulus68, If sdc is the drive I meant
[09:12] <daGrevis> rjsalts, ok, ty
[09:12] <rjsalts> daGrevis: i.e. there are directories that won't get recreated if you do rm -rf /var/log/*
[09:12] <paulus68> Beldar My guess is that I need to select the boot partition but I'm not sure
[09:12] <rjsalts> daGrevis: that find will only find regular files
[09:13] <Beldar> paulus68, No the mbr no partition numbers of the drive that is the first in the bios read as of now.
[09:13] <Beldar> paulus68, sdc
[09:14] <paulus68> Beldar the 120 SSD is the principle drive where ubuntu is installed on
[09:15] <Beldar> paulus68, sdc right? This is the one read first in the bios?
[09:15] <jhattara> is there a gui sftp program that could recursively compare contents of local and remote folder ?
[09:15] <paulus68> could be not sure have to reboot in order to check that out
[09:16] <urban_cohort> rjsalts, what do you suggest me to do? I googled it but couldn't find what I was looking for
[09:16] <Beldar> paulus68, Any other OS on the computer?
[09:16] <paulus68> no just ubuntu
[09:17] <rjsalts> urban_cohort: the script it is running is in /var/lib/dpkg/info/opencl-devel.postinst with some argument, depending on whether it's a new install or an upgrade
[09:17] <Beldar> paulus68, I will assume you are using the mbr of the HD ubuntu is on so choose sdc and if there is an issue on boot put it as first read in the bios.
[09:18] <rjsalts> urban_cohort: if it's a shell script you could try putting a set -x below #!/bin/sh and see what it's doing
[09:18] <paulus68> Beldar, OK will do
[09:18] <Beldar> paulus68, no raid on nothing right?
[09:18] <paulus68> no
[09:18] <Beldar> cool
[09:18] <vegombrei> hi i need help i think the ubuntu 14 i386 iso is broken i downloaded from the site also from torrent and md5sum says doesnt match .. does anyone have a good copy?
[09:18] <urban_cohort> Thank you, I'll try it
[09:18] <_1_Vampire2> hi
[09:19] <vegombrei> hi _1_Vampire2
[09:19] <_1_Vampire2> asl plz
[09:19] <paulus68> Beldar after install is there a way to know that I have grub2
[09:20] <ObrienDave> vegombrei, download it again until md5 matches
[09:20] <vegombrei> _1_Vampire2 LOLL
[09:20] <k1l_> _1_Vampire2: keep this channel clear for technical ubuntu support please
[09:20] <vegombrei> ObrienDave from where?
[09:20] <ObrienDave> paulus68, by the top of the screen
[09:20] <paulus68> what should it say?
[09:20] <vegombrei> ObrienDave i thought torrent makes sure you get the entire file
[09:20] <ObrienDave> vegombrei, i suggest the orrent
[09:20] <vegombrei> thats how i got it
[09:21] <ObrienDave> from where?
[09:21] <vegombrei> kickass torrentz
[09:21] <Beldar> paulus68, Make sure you read the link fully, look at #5 and #6
[09:21] <antonio44> When I try to open a power point (.ppt) file I'm getting this window popping up http://www.anony.ws/image/Do3S  Anyone ever dealt with this before?
[09:22] <k1l_> vegombrei: use the official ubuntu files/torrents and not 3rd party ones.
[09:22] <k1l_> !torrents
[09:22] <ObrienDave> paulus68, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2/Upgrading?action=AttachFile&do=get&target=g2_grubversion1.png
[09:22] <k1l_> vegombrei: see the bots message
[09:22] <paulus68> thanks will reboot and report back if any issue
[09:22] <ObrienDave> vegombrei, get the torrent from: http://torrent.ubuntu.com:6969/
[09:24] <Beldar> ObrienDave, Myself I would just purge legacy and install grub 2 but thought the link better.
[09:25] <ObrienDave> i agree Beldar
[09:25] <ObrienDave> a bit safer than purging grub
[09:26] <Beldar> ObrienDave, I have never used a boot partition, so I figured that was best, I have to crash if they have an issue would you check it out. I had them just load the mbr.
[09:26] <ObrienDave> yes, i saw that. be happy to assist :)
[09:27] <Beldar> cool thanks probably should of done the boot partition a s well
[09:28] <edition> why isn't GCC installed on Ubuntu by default?
[09:28] <paulus68> when the grub menu is displayed nothing is visible
[09:28] <edition> "gcc: error trying to exec 'cc1plus': execvp: No such file or directory"
[09:28] <MonkeyDust> edition  to keep the iso small enough, some packages have been left out
[09:29] <edition> but no codecs?
[09:29] <paulus68> beldar just an empty screen and that's it
[09:29] <ObrienDave> paulus68, did it show grub 1.99 at the top?
[09:29] <edition> and no gimp? even though the iso is 1gb?
[09:29] <paulus68> ObrienDave, no it didn't
[09:29] <MonkeyDust> edition  gimp is non-essential to make the system work
[09:29] <edition> ah, ok
[09:30] <edition> Is Qt a good IDE for C++?
[09:30] <ObrienDave> paulus68, did it look something like this; https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2/Upgrading?action=AttachFile&do=get&target=g2_grubversion1.png
[09:30] <MonkeyDust> edition  if it suits your needs, then it's good
[09:31] <edition> ok
[09:32] <paulus68> ObrienDave, no just like the white square box with nothing in there (where you can normally find the memtest and others and no header
[09:32] <antonio44> When I try to open a power point (.ppt) file I'm getting this window popping up http://www.anony.ws/image/Do3S  Anyone ever dealt with this before?
[09:32] <edition> how to remove global menu for apps?
[09:32] <paulus68> rerun the command and try again?
[09:33] <ObrienDave> i would try sudo update-grub
[09:33] <ObrienDave> see if it finds the kernels
[09:35] <paulus68> Ok will reboot and see what happens
[09:36] <ObrienDave> too quick *sigh*
[09:36] <DJones> antonio44: Not something I've come across before, found an old thread on the openoffice forum https://forum.openoffice.org/en/forum/viewtopic.php?f=10&t=14418 that suggests that the file may be corrupt
[09:36] <ObrienDave> back in 5
[09:36] <paulus68> ObrienDave, still the same
[09:37] <ObrienDave> ok, give me a few, brb
[09:37] <paulus68> ok
[09:38] <daGrevis> will i be able to see problems i have with shutdown in /var/log/syslog?
[09:38] <antonio44> Djones: I doubt the files is corrupt...this has happened quite a few times to me
[09:38] <antonio44> with different files
[09:41] <DJones> antonio44: Might be worth joining #libreoffice and asking there, seems a bit quiet here at the moment
[09:41] <vegombrei> k1l_ yep i have the file from the official ubuntu torrent thing you said
[09:41] <vegombrei> still nada
[09:41] <jhattara> are there good alternatives for FileZilla in ubuntu ?
[09:41] <vegombrei> im telling ya the files broken
[09:41] <k1l_> vegombrei: check the md5
[09:41] <vegombrei> ya ya ya the md5 isnt a match
[09:41] <vegombrei> i got this software to check that
[09:41] <smittix> jhattara: What's wrong with filezilla?
[09:42] <MonkeyDust> !ftp | jhattara
[09:42] <urban_cohort> rjsalt thanks for your help. I just removed that unconfigured  package and it worked.
[09:42] <jhattara> smittix: it can't compare recursively
[09:42] <antonio44> thanks djones:
[09:42] <jhattara> MonkeyDust: thanks, i'll check those
[09:43] <ObrienDave> paulus68, ok it boots to grub but no entries, correct?
[09:43] <vegombrei> someone else needs to download and check that file
[09:43] <k1l_> vegombrei: which file?
[09:44] <paulus68> ObrienDave, correct
[09:44] <smittix> jhattara: Ah ok.
[09:44] <ObrienDave> vegombrei, i already have it and the md5 is good
[09:44] <ObrienDave> paulus68, are you familiar with grub-customizer?
[09:44] <paulus68> ObrienDave, no I'm not
[09:45] <vegombrei> the ubuntu 14 i386 torrent and check the md5 that file is a bad file there
[09:45] <k1l_> vegombrei: http://www.ubuntu.com/download/alternative-downloads
[09:45] <vegombrei> ive done it twice and got md5 dont match both times
[09:45] <edition> whats the best video editor, in terms of stability and amount of features?
[09:46] <MonkeyDust> !best | edition
[09:46] <ObrienDave> paulus68, which version are you running? 14.04?
[09:46] <edition> ?
[09:46] <paulus68> yes
[09:46] <k1l_> vegombrei: then something went wrong twice for you. are you sure you dont mix the 14.04 and 14.04.1 isos?
[09:46] <MonkeyDust> edition  again, what best suitgs your needs, is the best
[09:46] <ObrienDave> paulus68, ok, try installing it from https://launchpad.net/~danielrichter2007/+archive/ubuntu/grub-customizer
[09:46] <MonkeyDust> suits*
[09:47] <k1l_> vegombrei: because you are too unprecise with "ubuntu 14" there are at least 2 ubuntu releases in 2014
[09:47] <edition> great fx, green screen, non-linear editing, etc...
[09:47] <vegombrei> k1l_ yeah im quite particular about this stuff ive installed it so many times .. just this time i make the bootable dvd and it just doesnt boot
[09:48] <ObrienDave> vegombrei, force a recheck in your torrent client
[09:48] <k1l_> so give the exact version you said you downloaded
[09:48] <bcvery> edition, I've found kdenlive to be reasonable; you should also look at pitivi (but YMMV)
[09:48] <vegombrei> k1l_ got this sofware md5sum that checks the md5 and it says its a mismatch
[09:49] <MonkeyDust> edition  there's also openshot
[09:49] <edition> ok, thanks
[09:49] <k1l_> vegombrei: ok, then i cancle my downloads to verify the isos because you refuse to give precise informations. god luck then
[09:50] <vegombrei> k1l_ its the ubuntu-14.04.1-desktop-i386
[09:50] <paulus68> ObrienDave, it's working now thanks
[09:50] <vegombrei> k1l_ sorry for the late response i didnt see the earllier msg
[09:51] <ObrienDave> paulus68, what is working?
[09:51] <paulus68> ObrienDave, I have the menu as mentioned in the printscreen
[09:52] <derrzzaa> for a home network share to support linux, osx, windows devices, which is best to use NFS or Samba?
[09:52] <ObrienDave> excellent, glad to be of assistance :)
[09:52] <yeats> theboog
[09:52] <MonkeyDust> derrzzaa  samba for windows, nfs for linux
[09:53] <derrzzaa> I was wondering if I'd need to set up both. Win has some NFS support
[09:53] <derrzzaa> OSX does Samba
[09:53] <derrzzaa> Can one be used for both?
[09:53] <derrzzaa> I know it can but, reliably.
[09:54] <MonkeyDust> derrzzaa  how is your question ubuntu related?
[09:54] <derrzzaa> the share is on ubuntu server
[09:55] <daGrevis> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2239307
[09:55] <daGrevis> yelp!
[09:56] <geirha> derrzzaa: samba should be least work
[10:05] <Eco2876> hello I couldnt install dotnet30 on winetricks thats why I asked at winehq they told me the bug was fixed but ubuntu did not use the latest winetricks version and they pointed me out wich should I use, the point is I copied the script and made it executable but when I try to run it this is what it says: wine cmd.exe /c echo '%ProgramFiles%' returned empty string, error message 'wine: /home/piquio/.wine is not owned by you'
[10:13] <samba35> i am trying to install wireless card (netgear wg311v3) with ndiswrapper after driver is installed when i run iwconfig its not able to detect card ,can you please tell me what could be wrong i am doing
[10:13] <CodeGosu> i have booted cloned linux in recovery mode to command promt, how do i make system initialize networking, since i have another network card how do i make system auto detect it? ( networking in live xubuntu disk works fine )
[10:15] <CodeGosu> ' ifconfig eth0 up' does 'error while getting interface flags: No such device'
[10:17] <dyu> anyone tried adding email notifications to duply/duplicity?
[10:18] <znf> Hello. Does anyone know why Byobu would turn my terminal into an 8color terminal, when I Have support for 256 everywhere (my terminal emulator is 256 color, if I don't run byobu, I get 256 color, if I run tmux/screen manualy, I get 256 colors etc.)
[10:18] <sveinse> Does Ubuntu maintain a list of laptops that works well with it? Previously, having nvidia was a good choice, but now with the dual Intel/nvidia (optimus) thing, is seems it isn't any more.
[10:19] <daGrevis> wait wat. to upgrade kernel I need to compile it myself? https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel/Upgrade?action=show&redirect=UpgradeKernel
[10:19] <CodeGosu> ethtool -e eth0 'cannot get driver information no such device'
[10:19] <dw1> daGrevis: no
[10:20] <daGrevis> dw1, i run apt-get update && upgrade but it said something about keeping back linux-generic update
[10:20] <dw1> daGrevis: Software Updater will update it automatically and ask you to reboot
[10:20] <dw1> daGrevis: try apt-get dist-upgrade
[10:20] <varunendra> CodeGosu, so maybe you don't have 'eth0', may be it is 'eth1' or '2' or something entirely different. Check "sudo lshw -C network" to see its logical name
[10:20] <daGrevis> dw1, ty
[10:21] <k1l_> for the logs: the ubuntu 14.04.1 i386.iso got the md5sum a4fc15313ef2a516bfbf83ce44281535 so its correct. vegombrei
[10:21] <dw1> daGrevis: man apt-get to see the diff
[10:22] <daGrevis> dw1, y thanks. im used to arch and pacman thats why the confusion
[10:24] <calimero_82> ciao a tutti
[10:24] <calimero_82> buon ferragosto
[10:24] <cfhowlett> !it| calimero_82
[10:24] <calimero_82> sorry
[10:26] <ObrienDave> cfhowlett, snarky cannon locked and loaded, SIR! ;P
[10:26] <cfhowlett> ObrienDave, at ease, private!
[10:26] <ObrienDave> lol
[10:27] <ObrienDave> *shuffles feet* but i want to so badly ;P
[10:33] <Akiva-Thinkpad> hey I downloaded the alarm clock app; if my computer is in suspend, will it still work?
[10:33] <Akiva-Thinkpad> I really need to make sure I don't sleep through this appointment.
[10:33] <cfhowlett> Akiva-Thinkpad, smartphone + alarm clock
[10:34] <vitimiti> Akiva-Thinkpad, why don't you try it? Set it to five minutes from here and put it to sleep, see what happens
[10:34] <Akiva-Thinkpad> cfhowlett, nope; no smartphone
[10:34] <vitimiti> Or use the phone, yeah
[10:34] <Akiva-Thinkpad> just laptop.
[10:34] <Akiva-Thinkpad> ;_; wish I had a phone
[10:34] <ObrienDave> ummm not sure if i would trust it THAT much without testing
[10:35] <Akiva-Thinkpad> okay testaroo
[10:36] <Akiva-Thinkpad> nope
[10:36] <Akiva-Thinkpad> !ping
[10:37] <Akiva-Thinkpad> !ping
[10:37] <cfhowlett> !test | Akiva-Thinkpad, use the other channel
[10:37] <Akiva-Thinkpad> ah so it didnt work
[10:37] <Akiva-Thinkpad> what the heck am I supposed to do?
[10:38] <cfhowlett> Akiva-Thinkpad, ask mommy to give you a wake up call.
[10:38] <Akiva-Thinkpad> cfhowlett, yah, I live by my self in the woods :P
[10:38] <Akiva-Thinkpad> not gonna happen
[10:38] <bcvery> Akiva-Thinkpad, Don't suspend the laptop?
[10:38] <Akiva-Thinkpad> bcvery, again; woods; no electricity
[10:38] <ObrienDave> get a real alarm clock?
[10:39] <cfhowlett> Akiva-Thinkpad, you're an adult.  time to buy an actual alarm clock.  An ubuntu issue, this isn't.  Now let's move on.
[10:39] <Akiva-Thinkpad> cfhowlett, wow; unhelpful today; aren't we.
[10:40] <cfhowlett> Akiva-Thinkpad, happy2help with ubuntu issues.  this isn't
[10:40] <bcvery> Akiva-Thinkpad, rtcwake can suspend until a given time - try that.
[10:42] <Akiva-Thinkpad> bcvery, thanks
[10:42] <Akiva-Thinkpad> bcvery, it says my kernel is not compatible.
[10:42] <Akiva-Thinkpad> err wait
[10:42] <Akiva-Thinkpad> let me try this again
[10:48] <Diplomat> guys, I have a pretty noob question.. I have one program that allows only root to run it, but i want to execute it from another place.. but then i get permission denied.. any ideas what i can do to fix it ?
[10:50] <OERIAS> ?join #debian
[10:53] <sebastianlutter> I noticed www-data has set /bin/sh in /etc/passwd (Ubuntu Server 13.10). Is there no passwd set for www-data, or is there a internal passwd set and used by some service? I want to set a passwd for www-data to allow login with www-data. If there is already an internal passwd set I would not do this to not break things. Can someone enlight me?
[10:58] <kgalahassa> hi, how can i report to you an error about ubuntu update
[10:58] <cfhowlett> !ask |kgalahassa,
[10:58] <Sven_vB> sebastianlutter, there should be a better way than logging in as www-data
[10:59] <kgalahassa> no ubottu, you use to paste errors somewhere i think, before reporting it
[10:59] <Sven_vB> sebastianlutter, can you show us the first few chars of the current password hash? or maybe, does it start with "!", "x" or the like?
[11:00] <cfhowlett> !paste | kgalahassa
[11:01] <kgalahassa> ubottu, cool, that was my expectation
[11:03] <skfax> Can I boot an Ubuntu live CD and safely remove the CD while continuing to run the OS? Or are there separate boot arguments to ensure that everything necessary is loadeded into RAM on boot?
[11:03] <kgalahassa> Please , get a look of what command line shows after sudo apt-get update: http://paste.ubuntu.com/8052858/
[11:03] <cfhowlett> kgalahassa, I'd guess that your software mirror is unreachable.  change the mirror or wait for a day and try again
[11:04] <XLV> !xandr
[11:04] <cfhowlett> !quantal | kgalahassa,
[11:04] <XLV> !xrandr
[11:04] <Sven_vB> kgalahassa, which ubuntu version are you using?
[11:04] <cfhowlett> kgalahassa, actually, I was wrong.  Quantal is end of life = no longer supported
[11:04] <cfhowlett> !eolugrade | kgalahassa
[11:05] <kgalahassa> cfhowlett, ubottu: ok , so I have to update to another version 13.04 perhaps
[11:05] <cfhowlett> kgalahassa, ALSO end of life
[11:05] <Sven_vB> yes if you're still on quantal, that's the best you can do
[11:06] <cfhowlett> kgalahassa, 12.04, 14.04 are long term support
[11:06] <kgalahassa> ok
[11:06] <sebastianlutter> Sven_vB, there is a * instead of a passwd hash
[11:07] <Sven_vB> sebastianlutter, i think that means that login is accepted but no password will work. you can still use SSH keys or other authentification.
[11:07] <bakata1337> Hey!
[11:08] <s00x> anyone using f.lux? can i change daytime color temperature to 4000?
[11:08] <kgalahassa> Now this is another errors I  got install QuantumGis: http://paste.ubuntu.com/8052890/
[11:08] <cfhowlett> !eolupgrade | kgalahassa, READ this time!
[11:08] <kgalahassa> Now this is another errors I  got installing QuantumGis: http://paste.ubuntu.com/8052890/
[11:08] <sebastianlutter> Sven_vB: Thanks for the hints, I'll go with public keys
[11:09] <cfhowlett> kgalahassa, END OF LIFE = NO LONGER SUPPORTED
[11:10] <Sven_vB> kgalahassa, probably an end-of-life problem, too. also, when showing sudo (anything) output for IRC, set it to english: sudo LANG{,UAGE}=en_US.UTF-8 apt-get ...
[11:11] <Sven_vB> well, at least for english speaking channels
[11:11] <Sven_vB> also if you want messages that search engines can find forum threads for
[11:11] <kgalahassa> Sven_vB, ok
[11:13] <s00x> anyone using f.lux?
[11:15] <Sven_vB> spoiler: f.lux adjusts display color temperature to daytime
[11:16] <s00x> Sven_vB: in ubuntu i can only change nighttime color. it is possible change daytime color?
[11:19] <sveinse> What has happened to firmware-libertas? It is not available in trusty. Has the firmware been superseded by another packages I dont know about?
[11:20] <cfhowlett> !info firmware-libertas
[11:21] <sveinse> Well I know that, but what has happened to the contents of the package. I still need the libertas firmware for my wifi chip...
[11:24] <sveinse> Hmm. The firmware file does not exist any more in any package :( bummer!
[11:26] <Sven_vB> s00x, dunno, i don't use it. but if the program can change one of the colors, then it is possible to change the colors on ubuntu, and up to the program to offer you the options
[11:30] <Rohan_m> My ISP support Low MTU Size is it a problem for other services running on ubuntu ?
[11:39] <tiblock> Hi. Is there some terminal software that can paste text to internet and give URL? I mean like "cat /var/log/some.log | ix" and that will upload that text and give URL, but ubuntu dont have "ix". Is there something like that?
[11:40] <eeee> !pastebinit | tiblock
[11:40] <tiblock> eeee, thank you
[11:40] <eeee> np
[11:47] <kgalahassa> ubottu: Now I want to know which of  upgrade or reinstallation is adequate. how can I fix it?
[11:47] <MonkeyDust> kgalahassa  fix what?
[11:48] <cfhowlett> kgalahassa, download 12.04 or 14.04.  make a usb.  BOOT the USB.  Install ubuntu
[11:48] <cfhowlett> MonkeyDust, eol quantal ...
[11:48] <technocf> Where can I find a good tutorial for setting up an Ubuntu mail server with virtual mailboxes.  I've found some tutorials but they only go into setting up postfix, not all the other bits.
[11:48] <cfhowlett> technocf, ask #ubuntu-server   ?
[11:48] <technocf> ok
[11:49] <MonkeyDust> kgalahassa  you cannot fix something that's dead, i tried with my dog
[11:51] <tiblock> Little help please. I upgraded from 12.04 to 14.04 and now Xorg crashing http://paste.ubuntu.com/8053109/ what can i try to fix it?
[11:52] <cfhowlett> tiblock, sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[11:52] <jackhum> I am unable to connect my 14.04 to 802.11 network http://askubuntu.com/questions/508716/problem-connecting-ubuntu-14-04-wifi-to-802-11-network?noredirect=1#comment686708_508716
[11:53] <tiblock> cfhowlett, but its allredy 14.04.1 or should i do this anyway?
[11:53] <jackhum> i already posted my question to askubuntu but no one came to my rescue .  so i came to irc for help
[11:53] <cfhowlett> tiblock, if you're already 14.04.1 this won't help.  I hoped the fix would be in the point release - obviously not.
[11:54] <tiblock> cfhowlett, ye, "apt-get dist-upgrade" did nothing
[11:54] <cfhowlett> tiblock, sorry, that was my only suggestion.  ask again channel
[11:55] <jackhum> any chance you people have answer of my question ?
[11:56] <MonkeyDust> !details | jackhum
[11:57] <eeee> jackhum: try sudo apt-get install xorg xorg-utils xorg-xinit xorg-twm xorg-xclock xterm xorg-server xorg-server-utils
[11:57] <cfhowlett> eeee, is there a command to reconfigure x-org??? I don't know ...
[11:57] <jackhum> MonkeyDust, ubottu  : I already posted a log file in askubuntu forum
[11:58] <jackhum> I have 8.1 and ubuntu 14.04 as dual boot system , my college wifi connects out of box with windows , but i dont have any luck with ubuntu
[11:58] <MonkeyDust> jackhum  great, describe it here too
[11:59] <Darael> In 14.04, the apparmor profile for /usr/lib/dovecot/imap-login does not seem to allow access to /var/run/dovecot/config, causing clients to see tls handshake timeouts.  Should I open a bug
[11:59] <jackhum> it uses 802.11 security ,
[12:00] <eeee> cfhowlett: jackhum dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg ?
[12:00] <eeee> don't know if that'll work
[12:00] <cfhowlett> eeee, I think that's the one
[12:01] <jackhum> MonkeyDust, ubottu : tell me what else you want to know , and earlier the wifi connected when i used 12.04 , i think problem started arising with 12.04+ versions
[12:01] <Darael> jackhum: try connecting to eduroam, if thy college is part of that network.  If that works, we have a basis from which to start.  The username should be as usual with @college.domain appended.
[12:01] <jackhum> yeah it uses , cyberoam
[12:04] <jackhum> tell me what else do you people need .
[12:04] <varunendra> jackhum, based on the wireless_script report you posted here : http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/7995292/ , please try saving your Access-Point's MAC address in the "BSSID" field of the Network Manager settings for the connection. Save and close NM settings, and try to reconnect.
[12:05] <Darael> varunendra: if it's a college network, that's going to be counterproductive - one would want to be able to roam between APs
[12:05] <jackhum> varunendra, How should i do that?
[12:06] <varunendra> Darael, take a look at the report I linked to, it is from poster's AU post, and shows only one AP in the NM list
[12:06] <Darael> varunendra: At the current location, yes, but that doesn't mean jackhum won't ever want to move the machine to elsewhere in the college.
[12:08] <Darael> varunendra: Besides, the "iwlist scan" section of the report shows three cells, although two are hiding their ESSID
[12:08] <varunendra> Darael, that setting is meant per connection. And I have a good reason to suggest that. See those "Reason 8" in dmesg part? That means NM roamed to another connection before it could properly connect. Usually happens when there are many APs with same name, but somehow happening here too. My interpretation of the reason code may be wrong though.
[12:09] <varunendra> Darael, the setting would be different for a different connection (profile).
[12:10] <Darael> varunendra: That's kind of my point, though: for things to Just Work™ one wouldn't want to configure a different connection for every AP in the college's network!
[12:11] <varunendra> jackhum, you may also try a driver parameter available for your driver. To do so, try these commands - "sudo modprobe -rv iwlwifi" ..... then .... "sudo modprobe -v iwlwifi 11n_disable=8"
[12:12] <jjavaholic> i'm looking for an app to add name-value information to my jpegs which app would you suggest and if you can provide a link to a guide as well that would be handy
[12:12] <jackhum> varunendra, can you update those on my askubuntu page . so that , i can shutdown my windows and try those on my ubuntu
[12:12] <uber> eeee: Error: "pastebinit" is not a valid command.
[12:12] <uber> MonkeyDust: Error: "details" is not a valid command.
[12:13] <varunendra> Darael, we have no clues or hints at the moment to believe it would be necessary at all. But if you search the forums, they are full of threads where binding the connections to specific APs was the ONLY solution that worked. Not awesome, but at least got them a connection.
[12:13] <tiblock> Help plese. After 12.04->14.04 upgrade mine Xorg not starting http://paste.ubuntu.com/8053109/ is "apt-get purge fglrx*" correct solution?
[12:13] <tiblock> *please
[12:14] <varunendra> jackhum, I am on Ubuntu Forums, not on Ask Ubuntu. You may post a thread at UF if you wish, I don't have an account on AU.
[12:14] <jackhum> varunendra, : oh. google signin works
[12:14] <eeee> uber: <command> | pastebinit
[12:14] <uber> eeee: Error: "<command>" is not a valid command.
[12:14] <eeee> uber: .
[12:14] <uber> eeee: Error: "." is not a valid command.
[12:14] <eeee> bot?
[12:15] <Darael> jjavaholic: An axi-cache search suggests "exiv2" if th'art willing to use the command line, but turns up nothing likely-looking in the way of GUI tools
[12:16] <varunendra> jackhum, for some reason, I deleted my AU profile. Which means for some reasons (that I probably don't understand myself), I don't want to be on AU - that looks like Canonical's favourite, and I am a sentimentalist with UF ;p
[12:16] <jackhum> varunendra, : will ugrading to 14.04.1 help me?
[12:17] <varunendra> jackhum, can't say about that
[12:18] <Darael> jackhum: If th'art already on 14.04 and the packages are up-to-date, I can definitively say "no" (because th'art *already* on 14.04.1).  If not, the best anyone can do is "maybe, but don't count on it".
[12:19] <nerdys0uth> Is youtube crashing firefox for anyone else?
[12:19] <Darael> nerdys0uth: Probably someone somewhere, but WFM on Trusty
[12:20] <varunendra> jackhum, yup, Darael is right. An "apt-get dist-upgrade" should automatically upgrade the system to 14.04.1. You are not even using the current kernel which is .....32 or higher you are on ....24
[12:20] <tiblock> okay "apt-get purge fglrx*" did fixed my problem
[12:20] <Darael> nerdys0uth: Try launching it from the command-line and pastebinning the output for us.
[12:20] <nerdys0uth> i hadn't thought of that. will do darael
[12:20] <Darael> !pastebin | nerdys0uth: if th'art unaware
[12:20] <uber> Darael: Error: "pastebin" is not a valid command.
[12:21] <gaud> could someone tell me why  deb http://ubuntu-cloud.archive.canonical.com/ubuntu trusty-updates/icehouse main  gives me some 404,  I am running ubuntu server 14.04LTS
[12:22] <Darael> gaud: All that appears to be there is trusty-updates/juno.  May be relevant?
[12:22] <nerdys0uth> http://paste.ubuntu.com/8053318/
[12:22] <nerdys0uth> not as informative as i'd hoped
[12:23] <gaud> Darael.. well, juno is not even out yet, Icehouse is the latest stable version of openstack
[12:23] <jackhum> varunendra, : tell me how to do it offline , if its possible , as the problem is i can't connect to my internet , is there any solution like offline upgradE?
[12:23] <Abletonist> hello folks, actually i dont wanted to land here but i wanted to be in EFNET. How can I do that?
[12:23] <nerdys0uth> gstreamer bug maybe?
[12:24] <Darael> nerdys0uth: Hmm, no, those look like what I get just for launching Firefox.  No help there.  What sort of crash are we talking about?  Hang, or mysterious closing?
[12:24] <cfhowlett> jjavaholic, question answered???
[12:24] <nerdys0uth> closes when i hit a youtube page with javascript enabled
[12:24] <varunendra> jackhum, if it is a fresh install, it would be better to just do a clean install of 14.04.1. But it is highly recommended (for ANY release) to test the OS in Live mode before deciding to install it.
[12:24] <nerdys0uth> and ive got flash disabled, signed up for html5
[12:25] <nerdys0uth> lol. ok. it doesn't happen when i turn on flash
[12:25] <varunendra> jackhum, in order for your existing installation to *know* that there are upgrades available, it must be connected to internet and updated at least once.
[12:26] <Darael> nerdys0uth: Could be a GStreamer bug... this is the kind of thing where if I could reproduce the bug I'd be stracing it or running it under gdb (firefox -g) or something, but I'm out of ideas really
[12:27] <Darael> nerdys0uth: At least there's a way to make it work, even if it's by using the inferior Flash-based version :-þ
[12:27] <nerdys0uth> exactly. thanks the help :)
[12:52] <samba35> i am trying to install wireless card (netgear wg311v3) with ndiswrapper after driver is installed when i run iwconfig its not able to detect card ,can you please tell me what could be wrong i am doing
[12:53] <bugaloo> samba35, is it showing the device on ifconfig
[12:53] <bugaloo> ?
[12:53] <samba35> ndiswrapper -l show ,card is there even gui tool detect the card
[12:53] <samba35> i am not able to see wireless card with ifconfig -a
[12:55] <samba35> even iwconfig doesnt show card
[12:58] <JoeyJoeJo> I just got 3 new 3TB hard drives and setup a software raid 5. The total size of the array is 4TB. Shouldn't it be closer to 5.4TB?
[13:00] <JoeyJoeJo> samba35: That's an old, crappy wifi card. I'd suggest getting a newer one with native linux support. You can get one for like $20 off of Amazon
[13:00] <samba35> ok
[13:00] <marfiik> Where am I?
[13:00] <samba35> i have 3 of them that's why want to give try
[13:00] <LucidGuy> Ubuntu server with 5 sata controllers, just noticed that /dev/disk/by-id/ata-*** is not consistent, not sure if it was a reboot but I know have double the amount of disks?
[13:01] <JoeyJoeJo> samba35: http://www.fancycost.com/silver-alfa-awus036h-1000mw-wifi-wireless-usb-adapter-p-106214.html?zenid=1ca67c04e4ca1ddd085cd143104b1798#.U-4EhPldWoM
[13:01] <samba35> thanks
[13:26] <MonkeyDust> LucidGuy  #ubuntu-server may be more what you need
[13:29] <Guest7596> Hi everyone
[13:31] <switchtehbeat> Hi, quick question. I have a new PC. I want to run Ubuntu and windows 7. which should I install first???
[13:32] <WaKaN> windows 7
[13:32] <cfhowlett> WaKaN, win7 then ubuntu
[13:32] <switchtehbeat> install windows 7 then ubuntu? correct?
[13:32] <cfhowlett> ^ switchtehbeat
[13:32] <WaKaN> cfhowlett, yes
[13:32] <switchtehbeat> thanks! bbs
[13:41] <Ruhshan> hello
[13:41] <jwr___> User ricksebak posted a pastebin URL last night, about 12 hours ago. Can anybody find it in their irc history? (That was me who pasted it last night at home, but now i'm at work and I can't access my irc history at home)
[13:42] <Pici> !logs | jwr___
[13:42] <uber> Pici: Error: "logs" is not a valid command.
[13:44] <jwr___> Pici: perfect, thanks.
[13:44] <Ruhshan> I'm using Asus X101ch notebook, and ubuntu 12.04. In update manager, it has a notification to upgrade 14.04.1 LTS. I'v previously heard that, this version may not support the video hardwares. Is it fixed in 14.04.1?
[13:45] <MonkeyDust> Ruhshan  no, i tried it, it's a fan problem and forced me back to 12.04
[13:45] <mgc> hello all, how do i specify which user a script in cron.daily should run as?
[13:49] <bitsy> Hi
[13:49] <bitsy> Please can somebody help me?
[13:49] <MonkeyDust> bitsy  start with a question
[13:49] <enchilado> !ask bitsy
[13:49] <enchilado> Hrm
[13:49] <enchilado> !ask | bitsy
[13:49] <enchilado> There we go.
[13:49] <Pici> mgc: you don
[13:50] <bitsy> I am a clueless noob using Ubuntu 12.04 and since I did my most recent update, Flash isn't working in my Chromium browser. It works fine in Firefox
[13:50] <mgc> Pici: not possible?
[13:50] <Pici> mgc: you don't.  They get run as root.  If you want something to run as a particular user, the best thing to do (in my opinion) is to edit that user's crontab.
[13:51] <bitsy> I am sorry that I wasn't supposed to say "please can somebody help me?" I didn't know. I was just being polite. Sorry if I'm doing everything wrong
[13:51] <bugs_bugger> hi. can somebody help me with ssh-server config for LAN? i set up a custom port and disabled password auth in favor of pubkey. locally i can connect but not from a second machine. connection times out
[13:52] <mgc> Pici: that makes sense I didn't add via crontab -e because of the complexity of the script
[13:52] <mgc> Pici: I guess I could just add 'sudo - <user>' to the commands in the script...
[13:53] <Pici> mgc: Alternatively, you could add it to /etc/crontab, in which you can specify a user for it to run as.
[13:57] <k1l_> !away | RowdyChild|Away
[13:58] <Hew4> Hi. Unfortunately I have deinstalled Python and entered "sudo apt-get autoremove". So many programs are also deinstalled now - is there a possibility to reverse that
[13:58] <MonkeyDust> Hew4  you have no backups?
[13:59] <abu-aisha>  if i have a vsat connection and a router with wifi, then someone has my password a uses my connection, will i have their computer name (ms windows OR ubuntu) and mac address logged? typically? i know this is #emacs and not the right place for this question but i hope someone can answer
[13:59] <abu-aisha> i mean , i know this s #ubuntu
[14:00] <k1l_> abu-aisha: dont crosspost and if you know its offtopic ask in #ubuntu-offtopic in the first place
[14:01] <Pici> abu-aisha: or ##networking
[14:01] <abu-aisha> Pici: in ##networking i got one answer: usually not
[14:01] <abu-aisha> but i really need to be sure
[14:03] <majukarma> Hello
[14:03] <kikimeter> someone can tell me if there is a greylisting solution to work with a mail transfer agent like opensmtpd ?
[14:03] <kikimeter> the only solution I found are for postfix MTA
[14:05] <hyde> Hi, any Qt programmers around? I'm getting error: module "QtQuick" is not installed for any QML2 app, for line import QtQuick 2.0
[14:05] <c2tarun> Good Morning guys.
[14:05] <hyde> I have qt5declarative-dev package installed
[14:06] <hyde> qtdeclarative5-dev *
[14:08] <majukarma> hello
[14:08] <majukarma> hello
[14:08] <majukarma> bye
[14:08] <hyde> found it! I was missing package qtdeclarative5-qtquick2-plugin
[14:12] <MonkeyDust> what's the command again to login in a remote windows pc? r... something
[14:15] <MonkeyDust> ok, rdesktop
[14:24] <genio> Did last night's MS updates kill samba's ability to talk to AD?
[14:25] <MonkeyDust> genio  is that a server?
[14:26] <genio> err, this week's updates (not last night's)
[14:27] <genio> Microsoft Updates on Windows Server 2012 - Active Directory domain controllers are apparently not allowing our Linux machines to communicate anymore
[14:27] <cfhowlett> genio, maybe better addresssed in #ubuntu-server   ??
[14:28] <holy_moses> hi everyone, noob here with a simple question. i'm trying to do something difficult (for me) before i do, i want to double check i know my root password for my   │ AlexRussia
[14:28] <holy_moses>                       | raspberry pi (raspian wheezy) is there an easy way to prompt me for my password (i don't want to change it - i just need a few goes at it to know which one it    │ alip
[14:28] <holy_moses>                       | is) i tried typing in sudo su but i was abble to access the root without raspian prmopting me                                                                     │ Almtesh
[14:28] <holy_moses> 14:25:55   holy_moses | for my password. anyone know any good tips. cheers
[14:28] <MonkeyDust> genio  or even in ##windows (doubel #)
[14:28] <holy_moses> sorry! hi everyone, noob here with a simple question. i'm trying to do something difficult (for me) before i do, i want to double check i know my root password for my raspberry pi (raspian wheezy) is there an easy way to prompt me for my password (i don't want to change it - i just need a few goes at it to know which one it is) i tried typing in sudo su but i was abble to access the root without raspian
[14:28] <holy_moses> prmopting me for my password. anyone know any good tips. cheers
[14:29] <cfhowlett> holy_moses, wheezy is #debian not ubuntu
[14:29] <MonkeyDust> holy_moses  wheezy sounds debian to me, that's not supported here
[14:30] <MonkeyDust> holy_moses  type /j #debian, ask there
[14:31] <k1l_> and the rpi cant run ubuntu at all due t the old ARM SoC. so its not helping anyway
[14:31] <holy_moses> thanks
[14:32] <frib> hi.  is it safe to assume that this card is compatible with ubuntu 14 (Both bluetoth and wifi)? http://www.amazon.it/Intel-Centrino-Wireless-n-Bluetooth-2230bn-hmwwb/dp/B007MHE4U6/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=undefined&sr=8-2&keywords=intel+centrino+n2230
[14:32] <cfhowlett> !hcl | frib
[14:34] <vickywiz> ooga
[14:34] <frib> cfhowlett, i don't see it explicitly mentioned on the ubuntu site, does that mean it definitely won't work?
[14:35] <cfhowlett> frib, no it just means *if* it was tested, it didn't get a write up.
[14:35] <MonkeyDust> frib  in short: nobody knows
[14:36] <cfhowlett> frib, this ^^^
[14:37] <MonkeyDust> frib  try it review it, add it to the !hcl list
[14:38] <frib> MonkeyDust, i haven't bought it yet
[14:38] <frib> i spent all day on the phone with hp just to find out if intel wifi cards were compatible and they could only confirm that one
[14:38] <ulkesh> frib: if this is similar, someone in the reviews said it worked in Ubuntu, but take that for what it is (anecdotal):  http://www.amazon.com/Intel-Centrino-Express-Bluetooth-2230BNHMW/dp/B009DAFJRM
[14:39] <teksal> what's the difference btw lib32ncurses5 and libncurses5:i386 ? (and all similarly named such packages)
[14:39] <frib> ulkesh, seems reliable to me
[14:40] <kostkon> teksal, 32bit and 64bit versions of the same package
[14:40] <teksal> no
[14:41] <kostkon> teksal, oh they are not the same package
[14:42] <teksal> is libncurses5:i386  64-bit? I dont think so
[14:42] <teksal> prefix x64 means 64-bit, not i386
[14:43] <MonkeyDust> teksal  use    apt-cache show [package]    to read the difference... the one is supported 18months, the other is LTS
[14:46] <work_> hi all, I try to understand (not setup) a firewall and what part of your system that are accessible from the outside world.  Can somebody point my to some documentation ?
[14:46] <cfhowlett> !ufw | work_
[14:49] <work_> .. I know about iptables and so on but what I want to know is what happens then I connect a network cable. (how do the OS find the IP table ?)
[14:50] <cfhowlett> work_, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IptablesHowTo
[14:52] <MonkeyDust> work_  you want to know where the ip tables are located in the system?
[14:53] <work_> cfhowlett, I don't looking for a tutorial for the syntax to use for setting up a firewall, I want to understand what happens in a technical way, how do the cable "connect" to the IP tabel ?
[14:54] <iris> bonjour
[14:54] <iris> Je suis à la recherche d'aide !
[14:54] <Pici> !fr | iris
[14:54] <Slart> !fr | iris
[14:55] <work_> MonkeyDust, I know that by running " which iptables" but why do the OS call this file ?
[14:57] <MonkeyDust> work_  not sure what you mean... the OS loads a module at startup, that's all, i guess
[14:57] <MonkeyDust> work_  and you can enable or disable that module
[14:58] <LucidGuy> made a change in /usr/share/initramfs-tools/scripts/local    do I have to run update-initramfs after for change to take effect?
[14:58] <Slart> work_: It sounds like you should go find a good book on the linux kernel.. afaik that's where these things happen.. Looking at the kernel source code might be helpful but I think a good book might be more useful.. there might just be one available in swedish
[14:58] <cfhowlett> LucidGuy, pretty certain that's a yes
[15:01] <work_> Slart, how do you know I am Swedish ?  Yes, I done some reading about linux lately but was hoping to find recurses specifically about how Internet connections work, everything I find is about setting up networks and so on and I just want to understand the technology
[15:02] <work_> ..like the I connect the cable then the driver in the network card looking for file x and ...
[15:02] <cfhowlett> work_, a book is much preferable to trying to explain in this irc.     Check these titles.  http://www.linuxlinks.com/article/20090405061458383/20oftheBestFreeLinuxBooks-Part1.html
[15:03] <MeXTuX> Tried this http://www.linux-compatible.com/tutorial/docky-closes-after-waking-suspend-ubuntu to fix a Docky issue but now when I open LXTerminal the directory is / instead of my home directory. Any idea?
[15:03] <MeXTuX> I am using Lubuntu btw
[15:04] <teksal> if anyone wonders, answer to my question is https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MultiArch
[15:05] <work_> cfhowlett, I understand your point but was hoping for search terms more specific then "linux kernel"
[15:06] <cfhowlett> work_, ##linux             would likely be able to direct you more precisely
[15:06] <work_> cfhowlett, no problem , thanks
[15:06] <Balzy> hello, does any of you use ZeroBin? I can't find anything about embed posts as you can do with pastebin (please reply in private message, no ot here ;) )
[15:07] <Slart> work_: sorry.. was away for a second.. I checked your whois-information  /whois <nickname> in your irc-client does this
[15:08] <work_> Slart, I see, so you do not try to hack my system : )
[15:08] <Slart> work_: as far as I know this stuff is handled by the kernel .. there are university courses about operating systems so I'm guessing there has to be litterature out there on the subject
[15:08] <Slart> work_: if I did I wouldn't admit it =)
[15:09] <kasisnu> Hey. What tool can I use to track network usage per process?
[15:09] <Slart> work_: perhaps ask in #linux instead or check the kernel development site and see if they have some links to more information
[15:09] <MonkeyDust> kasisnu  lsof comes to mind
[15:09] <kasisnu> I just installed nethogs and it's fine.
[15:10] <Fuchs> kasisnu: iftop, ntop, iptraf
[15:10] <MonkeyDust> kasisnu  try wireshark (sharkwire?)
[15:10] <Fuchs> lsof is hardly "usage", it's more "has a network connection"
[15:10] <kasisnu> But I can't find a way to filter it just by the process id.
[15:10] <anunnaki> !makefile
[15:10] <work_> Slart, hehe, If you do and you find some info maybe you can put a note on my desktop : )
[15:10] <cfhowlett> kasisnu, |grep pid        ?
[15:10] <kasisnu> I feel wireshark might be overkill.
[15:10] <work_> Slart, ok, thnaks
[15:11] <anunnaki> !make
[15:11] <Slart> work_: lots of stuff here.. not sure how "user friendly" it is though   http://www.linuxfoundation.org/collaborate/workgroups/networking/mainpage
[15:11] <Fuchs> nethogs would also work  (kasinu)
[15:11] <MonkeyDust> !info nethogs
[15:11] <work_> Slart, I will look, thanks again
[15:12] <Slart> work_: you're welcome
[15:13] <kasisnu> I have the process id. But it just runs in a loop showing usage for all processes.
[15:15] <kasisnu> The problem is that it overflows, and I can't see it if way too many processes are using more data than it.
[15:15] <ramay_> can anyone help with a static ip issue i am running ubuntu 12.04 on oracle virtual box and the ip keeps chaning [15:01] <ramay_> if i set the ip to manual, the internet stops working and i need to be able to do both [15:01] <ramay_> connect to internet and have a static ip [15:01] <ramay_> i have tried to reserve the ip from the router setup but doesn't seem to work, it keeps on updating the ip [15:02] <ramay_> running oracle virtualbox
[15:15] <SchrodingersScat> kasisnu: not sure if it has the function you're looking for, but iftop can show traffic per connection, and can probably filter
[15:15] <ramay_> can anyone help with a static ip issue i am running ubuntu 12.04 on oracle virtual box and the ip keeps chaning [15:01] <ramay_> if i set the ip to manual, the internet stops working and i need to be able to do both [15:01] <ramay_> connect to internet and have a static ip [15:01] <ramay_> i have tried to reserve the ip from the router setup but doesn't seem to work, it keeps on updating the ip [15:02] <ramay_> running oracle virtualbox
[15:15] <ramay_> can anyone help with a static ip issue i am running ubuntu 12.04 on oracle virtual box and the ip keeps chaning [15:01] <ramay_> if i set the ip to manual, the internet stops working and i need to be able to do both [15:01] <ramay_> connect to internet and have a static ip [15:01] <ramay_> i have tried to reserve the ip from the router setup but doesn't seem to work, it keeps on updating the ip [15:02] <ramay_> running oracle virtualbox
[15:16] <ramay_> guest OS is ubuntu
[15:17] <MonkeyDust> ramay_  use bridged mode to make a virtual bridge to your existing network
[15:18] <MonkeyDust> ramay_  bridged mode instead of NAT or manual
[15:18] <ramay_> already bridged MonkeyDust
[15:21] <MonkeyDust> ramay_  there are ove 270 people in #vbox, i'm sure they can help too
[15:21] <kasisnu> Iftop helps but not quite. :D
[15:22] <Fuchs> kasisnu: see the recommendation on nethogs
[15:22] <Fuchs> kasisnu: try this one, I assume it fits your needs (without knowing details) best
[15:22] <kasisnu> Lemme explain what I'm trying to do. I've written a script that's using websockets and will be polling all the time. I wanna get a better idea about how much data it will be consuming.
[15:24] <kasisnu> I've already tried nethogs. It works fine but I can't see my process because there are others which are consuming more data than it.
[15:26] <Fuchs> hm, iptraf together with netstat, maybe?
[15:27] <sydney> I just installed ubuntu 14.04 on a m-1617 laptop,and the audio out port wont work. The microphone port does,and when i plug earphones int the audio out port,there is a "click"
[15:27] <sydney> lubuntu 14.04*
[15:29] <sydney> What can i do?
[15:30] <kasisnu> Sydney: seems silly but if it's a fresh install, did you try upgrading it?
[15:30] <sydney> its a fresh install
[15:31] <cfhowlett> sydney, sudo apt-get dist-upgrade          will bring you to current release 14.04.1
[15:31] <cfhowlett> new kernels may fix your issue
[15:32] <sydney> ok,let this finish... ;)
[15:32] <sydney> ebooting...
[15:33] <kasisnu> Fuchs: iptraf is awesome! Doesn't filter by PID though.
[15:34] <Fuchs> kasisnu: by port and address (local/remote), so if you can limit your thingie to one of these, you should still get what you need
[15:38] <kasisnu> Fuchs: Thanks for being so patient. But how does one figure out the remote address a process is connected to. I have the PID.
[15:38] <kasisnu> ?
[15:38] <Fuchs> kasisnu: netstat -tulpen
[15:38] <Fuchs> kasisnu: with sudo to have the needed privs to map them
[15:38] <Fuchs> (and then grep)
[15:39] <sydney> Nope,it still doesnt work :-/
[15:40] <sydney> Itried installing pulse audio,but i dont know how to run it.
[15:40] <kasisnu> Fuchs: It's not in there.
[15:41] <kasisnu>  I can see it using `ps` though!
[15:41] <Kr_D> hi
[15:41] <Fuchs> hm, no idea right away then, sorry
[15:44] <w83> hi, can I install ubuntu alongside win8 with uefi - but I want to have ubuntu's bootmgr on a usb stick, such that win 8 would boot as usual and only booting with the usb would trigger ubuntu ?
[15:45] <eeee> kasisnu: try lsof -i
[15:45] <sydney> cfhowlett:do you have any ideas i can try?
[15:46] <cfhowlett> !sound | sydney, best I can do man.  sorry.
[15:46] <bob__> ive got a text will comtaining a hexdump that I want to byteswap
[15:46] <bob__> surely there is a nice command line tool for that?
[15:51] <MonkeyDust> bob__  hexdump is some developement thing, it says here... are you a developer?
[15:52] <bob__> yeah
[15:52] <bob__> and it looks like i really mangled the typing of my question.
[15:52] <MonkeyDust> bob__  ok, try #ubuntu-app-devel
[15:52] <bob__> cool. thanks
[15:53] <sydney> Ok,it says their plugged in... Thats all i know.
[15:58] <DJHenjin> this question is more of a systems level question,. if i have non-compressed kernel binary, and I want to find out where to put it so that it starts correctly writing my own software to write the kernel to disk, would the start address be in the header somewhere or is there even such a thing as header
[15:58] <DJHenjin> for the kernel
[15:59] <DJHenjin> and only now do i realize just how bad my punctuation is,....
[16:02] <pierangelo> il fatto  15.08.2014
[16:03] <sydney> :((
[16:03] <cfhowlett> !it | pierangelo,
[16:05] <kasisnu> eeee: Thanks! That totally helped!
[16:05] <eeee> kasisnu: np
[16:05] <kasisnu> Fuchs: Thanks a lot. I got the remote address. I think I can use iftop now. I'll keep trying.
[16:05] <Guest35236> hey
[16:06] <Guest35236> ive got a wierd thing here with ubuntu 12.04
[16:06] <Guest35236> i have a fresh install, nginx and openssl
[16:06] <Guest35236> fully updated
[16:06] <Guest35236> its showing up as vulnerable to heartbleed in nessus and using nmap
[16:06] <cfhowlett> Guest35236, sudo apt-get dist-upgrade = 12.04.5
[16:07] <Guest35236> seems to already be installed
[16:08] <Guest35236> Description:    Ubuntu 12.04.5 LTS
[16:08] <cfhowlett> Guest35236, "seems to" ... what's the return to: cat /etc/issue
[16:08] <Guest35236> Ubuntu 12.04.5 LTS \n \l
[16:09] <home_> How to share files in a network in ubuntu. In windows we use ipmessenger
[16:09] <cfhowlett> Guest35236, yep, fully updates.  why do you suspect heartbleed vulnerability?
[16:09] <sydney> cfhowlett:i fixed it!! :D It was an alsamixer problem :) It had automute enabled :)
[16:09] <cfhowlett> sydney, that there is some fine linux work, Lou!
[16:09] <Guest35236> nessus and nmap both show it as vulnerable to heartbleed exploits
[16:09] <cfhowlett> Guest35236, false positive?
[16:09] <cfhowlett> !heartbleed
[16:10] <Guest35236> well it may be
[16:10] <Guest35236> but i cant work out why
[16:10] <Guest35236> my servers (with older versions) dont seem to show up
[16:10] <Slart> home_: here's a list of promising candidates.. there's also things like samba or nfs    http://alternativeto.net/software/transfer-on-lan/
[16:10] <cfhowlett> Guest35236, over my head then.  sorry.
[16:11] <Guest35236> no worries
[16:11] <Guest35236> i was hoping it might be a problem other people were having
[16:11] <home_> Thank you slart
[16:11] <Guest35236> with the latest patch or something
[16:12] <cfhowlett> Guest35236, #ubuntu-server might know more
[16:12] <Guest35236> ah sorry
[16:13] <cfhowlett> Guest35236, not to worry
[16:13] <Guest35236> didnt realise there was a seperate server channel :)
[16:13] <cfhowlett> !server
[16:14] <Johnn> Hi everyone, I am an ubuntu newbie, trying to install it on chromebook to do some rtlsdr work. I installed 12.04 precise, no prob. Went to do an upgrade for Trusty (14.04) which seemed successful. Computer ran out of battery, so I am trying to restart the session. Tried the prompts sudo startxfce4 and startxfce4 but met with "command can not be found". Any insights?
[16:17] <chrstphrhrt> hi, trying to add to my sources.list but since the target url does not have ‘binary-amd64/Packages’ at the end, apt-get update fails: deb http://nightly.odoo.com/8.0/nightly/deb/ ./
[16:17] <chrstphrhrt> ideas?
[16:22] <chillaranand> how to start wifi hotspot on Ubuntu 14.04?
[16:26] <ccolorado> I have set up ubuntu to start with my user logged in. Is there a way to majke it start with the user logged in but locked by password ?
[16:26] <ikonia> no
[16:26] <ikonia> that seems pointless
[16:26] <ikonia> you may as well just make the user login
[16:27] <ikonia> as the login is the same as the lock
[16:27] <ccolorado> i wouldn't call it pointless
[16:27] <ccolorado> and its not
[16:27] <kriskropd> Does anyone have experience with mounting a network solutions ftp access with curlftpfs? for some reason it will not give me anything but access error 530 - works just fine with ftp client and curlftpfs works with my other ftp mounts
[16:27] <ikonia> in what was is logging someone in and locking the screen better than asking them to login
[16:27] <frib> i noticed that my laptop doesn't notify my sufficiently in advance when my battery gets low, is there a way to make it do so?
[16:27] <ccolorado> i want my session to be  loaded while i am getting coffe
[16:27] <frib> doesn't notify me*
[16:28] <ikonia> ccolorado: the session should only take a few seconds
[16:28] <ikonia> ccolorado: you're trying to make a custom login solution to save a few seconds
[16:30] <varunendra> chillaranand, "System Settings > Network > Wireless > click Use as Hotspot.. button" (nice nick by the way ;p)
[16:30] <eeee> ccolorado: i agree with ikonia it's nuts, but you could get add gnome-screensaver-command -l , to your ~/.profile
[16:30] <ccolorado> ikonia: yes so ? people spedn hundreds of dollars on SSDs to save some seconds
[16:31] <cyber_dweller> hello, trying to understand the procedure of creating an office vpn using strongswan frontend to ipsec. i still haven't got the complete understanding of how does the routing works between strongswan and my services(file sharing, servers and more). lets say we have created a security association between two end points, where would all decrypted packets apear? how would i route them too services or ports? how does it exactly work?
[16:31] <ikonia> ccolorado: not login session seconds, overall I/O
[16:31] <ccolorado> eeee: thanks, i was wondering if there was a better way to do it.
[16:31] <frib> ikonia, i contacted hp about compatibility with intel pci-express wifi cards and they said the only one they have listed is the centrino N2230 -- but that card is not listed on ubuntu website.. do you think it should work anyway?
[16:31] <ikonia> frib: I suspect so yes
[16:31] <ccolorado> ikonia: i don't know if you know, but you are trolling.
[16:32] <ikonia> ccolorado: I'm not trolling anyone/anything
[16:32] <frib> they put me on hold for about 2 hours ><
[16:32] <ikonia> frib: tough deal
[16:32] <Capprentice> Can anyone point me to a up to date Squid Transparent Video Caching tutorial on Ubuntu 14.04!
[16:32] <frib> ikonia, i know right
[16:32] <ccolorado> ikonia: you are not adding anything to the discussion except that my question is pointless.
[16:32] <ikonia> Capprentice: just setup squid as "standard"
[16:33] <ikonia> ccolorado: I'm advising you that a.) your solution is impactical b.) your information about SSD's for seconds is not really a comparision, so you may want to rethink
[16:33] <frib> is there any way to modify battery level notifications?
[16:33] <ikonia> Capprentice: you shouldn't need a special video config, a standard proxy service will cash common content
[16:34] <Capprentice> I have two nics one is for Internet and another is for LAN. The lan gateway is 10.10.110.1 and the user gets local ips as 10.10.110.65 from the IP pool. How can I setup a system so that LAN users gets videos from Squid cache before they try to fetch from the Internet !
[16:35] <Capprentice> My english is _____T ! Sorry :(
[16:35] <ikonia> Capprentice: standard squid proxy setup - nothing fancy needed
[16:36] <Capprentice> How to do that standard setup.... Im reading this though...http://aacable.wordpress.com/2014/04/21/howto-cache-youtube-with-squid-lusca-and-bypass-cached-videos-from-mikrotik-queue/
[16:36] <Capprentice> And also tried this - http://ap-isp.blogspot.com/2014/02/squid-proxy-video-cache-server-adeel.html
[16:36] <Capprentice> Did not worked :\
[16:37] <ikonia> Capprentice: just setup a squid http proxy
[16:37] <Capprentice> Point me to a Video guide please :(
[16:37] <aguitel> how enable multiarch in 14.04?
[16:37] <ikonia> no
[16:37] <ikonia> you don't need a video guide
[16:37] <ikonia> you just need a standard squid http proxy
[16:37] <grako> how do I get hardware accelerated video playback working in the OSS driver on a GCN based GPU, 14.04
[16:41] <cyber_dweller> hello, trying to understand the procedure of creating an office vpn using strongswan frontend to ipsec. i still haven't got the complete understanding of how does the routing works between strongswan and my services(file sharing, servers and more). lets say we have created a security association between two end points, where would all decrypted packets apear? how would i route them too services or ports? how does it exactly work?
[16:41] <Jonlee> how can I add something off the internet onto ubuntu software center
[16:41] <ikonia> Jonlee: you don't
[16:41] <ikonia> Jonlee: what is it you want/need
[16:41] <ccolorado> cyber_dweller: does it has to be openswan ?
[16:42] <cyber_dweller> ccolorado, no
[16:42] <frib> nobody has any idea why my battery dies without any warning?
[16:43] <Jonlee> Dell all in one center
[16:43] <ikonia> all in one center ?
[16:43] <cyber_dweller> ccolorado, i'm using strongswan because it offers complete solution to my needs ikev1/v2 and pretty simple certificate authority
[16:43] <ccolorado> cyber_dweller: In my experiecne openvpn has way more documentation and support in linux than openswan.
[16:44] <ccolorado> cyber_dweller: I see, I have very limited expertise as vpn adminsitration. But my educated guess is ash on #openswan.
[16:44] <ccolorado> *ask
[16:45] <cyber_dweller> ccolorado, thank you. nice weekend to all.
[16:45] <ccolorado> cyber_dweller: np
[16:45] <Jonlee>  Dell all in one center is what i need ikonia
[16:45] <ikonia> Jonlee: there doesn't appear to be a linux package for it
[16:45] <ikonia> Jonlee: it looks like it's windows only
[16:46] <Jonlee> ok
[16:46] <ccolorado> Jonlee: There are ways to runing windows software on linux
[16:47] <grako> how do I get hardware accelerated video playback working in the OSS driver on a GCN based GPU, 14.04
[16:47] <ccolorado> But its not always a good experience.
[16:47] <ikonia> Jonlee: that would not be an appropriate solution / suggestion for that software
[16:48] <ikonia> so disregard
[16:48] <gt8ost4l> anyone know how i could arrow down in office libre?
[16:48] <cyber_dweller> Jonlee, what software do  you need to run?
[16:48] <Jonlee> ok what might they be ccolorado
[16:48] <Jonlee> Dell all in one center
[16:49] <cyber_dweller> Jonlee, for what purpose may i ask?
[16:50] <Jonlee> Printing scanning and faxing all in one program
[16:50] <ccolorado> Jonlee: you may be better off trying to make that work with linux software.
[16:51] <grako> How do I get hardware accelerated video playback working on a GCN based GPU  using the oss drivers? 14.04 64 bit.
[16:51] <davis> hello
[16:51]  * genii ponders Dell All-In-One devices, CUPS, and SANE
[16:51] <ccolorado> You may want to google ubuntu printing and or ubuntu scanning.
[16:51] <cyber_dweller> Jonlee, i also had this issue once found linux alternatives and i'm very happy since.
[16:52] <davis> i am using two computers, a target and host. The target nfs root mounts it filesystem. We do a build and the new build copies over the entire root fs including the /var dir.  I think this is why I'm getting stale file handles.  I've tried to mount -o remount / but it does help. Any ideas?
[16:53] <mandy_> Servus
[16:54] <talgolan65380> How do I get hardware accelerated video playback working on a GCN based GPU  using the oss drivers? 14.04 64 bit.
[16:54] <mandy_> kann mir bitte einer helfen? Hab kein zugriff auf massenspeicher .... sieht aus als wäre die fs.ko weg ....wie geht das den?????
[16:54] <eeee> !de | mandy_
[16:55] <Jonlee> what did you do cyber_dweller
[16:55] <LucidGuy> Anyone using zfsonlinux?
[16:56] <mandy_> ok thx
[16:57] <MonkeyDust> LucidGuy  are you using lucid server? if yes, try #ubuntu-server
[16:59] <DJHenjin> !kernel
[17:00] <cyber_dweller> Jonlee, found alternatives for scanning and printing
[17:01] <Jonlee> ok what are they
[17:02] <cortexman> how do I disable the alt key in the hud
[17:02] <cyber_dweller> Jonlee, efax and efax-gtk for faxing, sane or other simple alternative for scanning. efax is really cool because you can choose it as a printer and use it as "printer" then a dialer apears on my screen and i fax it. other people on my network also use it. read about it it's really cool once it works.
[17:03] <ikonia> you can't just use efax
[17:03] <ikonia> you have to have compatibe hardware
[17:03] <ikonia> you also need the ability to "dial out"
[17:04] <DJHenjin> ikonia: a pbx system would classify as "compatible hardware" would it not?
[17:05] <jhutchins> Jonlee: You can probably use cups for printing and (X)sane for scanning.
[17:05] <ikonia> DJHenjin: not for a printer
[17:05] <ikonia> and it's also a paid for service
[17:05] <DJHenjin> ikonia: for a fax
[17:05] <ikonia> so if you've bought a printer/fax/scanner to then pay money to use it seems silly
[17:05] <jhutchins> Jonlee: There are several companies that make printers for dell, Lexmark, Cannon, and Kodac among them, so the actual model number matters.
[17:06] <DJHenjin> you can set up local pbx type "dial" system over a large lan
[17:06] <ikonia> pbx over a lan....doesn't help you get to peoples phone lines
[17:06] <ikonia> it requires a bridge between network -> analog fax phone lines
[17:06] <jhutchins> DJHenjin: I think what ikonia means is that you need a modem to send a fax (or network access to one).  One might be built into an all-in-one system.
[17:06] <DJHenjin> ikonia: im not suggesting for faxing out of a corporate system
[17:06] <ikonia> the efax service is one such option
[17:06] <ewook> ikonia: you mean POTS?
[17:06] <Jonlee> ok
[17:07] <ikonia> DJHenjin: it doesn' tmatter if its corperate or not
[17:07] <jhutchins> ikonia: So efax is a network fax service?
[17:07] <Sverdar> anyone know how to disable that fadein effect in ubuntu sounds ? I don't get bells with that active, besides is kinda annoying, is slow
[17:07] <ikonia> jhutchins: yes, subscription service
[17:09] <DJHenjin> ikonia: perhaps this theoretical company has 100,000 computers in 500 different locations around the world, dont you think a "fax" over the corporate virtual lan would be a decent solution
[17:10] <ikonia> DJHenjin: what are you talking about a corperate solution ??? a guy just wants to use his all in one printer to print/scan/fax
[17:10] <DJHenjin> i was asking regarding the faxing software you mentioned NEEDED hardware or if it could be convinced to use a software solution for "dialing out"
[17:10] <DJHenjin> a SEPERATE QUESTION
[17:11] <ikonia> DJHenjin: you can use a software solution to dial out if you have a PXB->analogphone line conversion point
[17:11] <DJHenjin> i thought i just finished explaining that i didnt give a rats ass about dialing into the actual phone line
[17:12] <ikonia> if you want to send a fax, you need to
[17:12] <DJHenjin> but my hardrive just finished backing up so im off to reinstall for the thousandth time in the last 5 months
[17:12] <jhutchins> hplip will control the fax functions of an HP all-in-one.
[17:12] <ikonia> jhutchins: sadly doens't work on any of the dells,
[17:12] <ikonia> which is annoying as it's great on the HP's
[17:12] <farbod> hi,how can i install ubuntu on my phone?(its Xperia Ion)
[17:13] <jhutchins> !phone
[17:13] <farbod> thank you
[17:13] <SecretFire> what do I have to add to /etc/fstab in order for my external hard drive to permanently mount , I know how to use sudo blkid to find the UUID but im stuck there, any help would be appreciated?
[17:13] <jhutchins> ikonia: Dells must be made by somebody else then.  Find out who, see if they supply software.  Heck, Dell might, they have linux friendly moments.
[17:14] <ikonia> SecretFire: use the existing entries as an example
[17:14] <ikonia> jhutchins: thought they where mostly lexmark and cannon
[17:14] <SecretFire> ikonia : it says stuff like was on /dev/sdb5 during install
[17:14] <ikonia> hence the poor linux support
[17:14] <jhutchins> ikonia: kodak too.
[17:14] <SecretFire> ikonia : disregard that?
[17:14] <ikonia> SecretFire: it also has non-comment
[17:14] <ikonia> jhutchins: didn't know about kodak
[17:15] <cyber_dweller> ikonia, your right about the bridge. but a modem will work that's why i wrote to this guy to read about it
[17:15] <KoNode> Sell 150k+ IRC Bots .!!
[17:15] <Gatis> Hello
[17:15] <SecretFire> ikonia : dont know what u mean by non comment
[17:16] <jhutchins> cyber_dweller: To be pedantic, it has to be a "fax modem", but almost all were.
[17:16] <KoNode> Sell 150k+ IRC Bots .!!
[17:16] <ikonia> SecretFire: # is a comment meaning it's just text and does nothing
[17:16] <SecretFire> ah
[17:16] <Gatis> I had problems with Ubuntu to install ATI x1200 proprietary driver... proprietary driver supports Ubuntu 8.04 Hardy Heron max.
[17:16] <ikonia> KoNode: ?
[17:16] <SecretFire> ikonia : im used to seeing */ and */ lol
[17:16] <Gatis> But on Manjaro XCFE it installed proprietary driver by default
[17:16] <Gatis> Im so happy
[17:16] <KoNode> Sell 150k+ IRC Bots .!!
[17:16] <Gatis> is that possible?
[17:16] <ikonia> KoNode: what ??
[17:16] <ewook> KoNode: shut it.
[17:16] <ikonia> KoNode: I don't understand what you are saying
[17:17] <ikonia> ewook: no need to talk to someone like that
[17:17] <ewook> ikonia: spambot mate.
[17:17] <ikonia> ewook: are you %100 certain ?
[17:17] <jhutchins> Please ignore the troll.
[17:17] <ewook> ikonia: yes.
[17:17] <ikonia> ewook: how
[17:17] <Gatis> Can anyone talk to me?
[17:18] <jhutchins> Gatis: What did you try to do?  How did you try to do it?  What did you expect to happen?  What happened instead?
[17:18] <ewook> ikonia: in ~1 min the same line will pass by. or depending on the script I might have caused it to be quiet for a small grace perioid.
[17:18] <ewook> period
[17:18] <ikonia> ewook: not really certain then are you
[17:18] <jhutchins> Gatis: What is your actual question.
[17:19] <KoNode> I`m sell IRC bots for DDOS..
[17:19] <Gatis> jhutchins, i don't understand
[17:19] <ewook> ikonia: one can never be certain enough.
[17:19] <ewook> ikonia: need more proof?
[17:19] <Gatis> Why on Arch linux my driver is supported but not on Ubuntu
[17:19] <ikonia> ewook: yeah, as I'm talking to the guy in private
[17:19] <jhutchins> !ati
[17:19] <ikonia> ewook: certainly not a bot
[17:19] <ewook> ikonia: well - close enough.
[17:24] <loculinux> desde loculinux en guatemala
[17:25] <OerHeks> !gt
[17:25] <MonkeyDust> !es
[17:25] <OerHeks> guatamala = #ubuntu-gt
[17:35] <RedSkyDown> hi. how do I search in a file in command line where a string is not there.
[17:35] <Aaron> RedSkyDown, locate file or whereis file
[17:36] <Pici> RedSkyDown: what do you mean by "where a string is not there"?
[17:36] <RedSkyDown> Pici: I want a list of file where max_id string is not found
[17:36] <RedSkyDown> inside the file
[17:37] <MonkeyDust> RedSkyDown  that would be with grep -v 'max_id' or so
[17:37] <blessjah_> RedSkyDown: try this: grep -L max_id
[17:38] <OerHeks> grep -r "max_id" *
[17:40] <blessjah_> after do-release-upgrade, 12.04->14.04, I canno login
[17:40] <RedSkyDown> blessjah_: thank. it work. but missing *
[17:41] <blessjah_> lightdm says cannot start session, in log it reads: "Failed to find session configuration ubuntu" "Can't find session 'ubuntu'"
[17:42] <blessjah_> what package provides this session? maybe if i try to reinstall this package
[17:43] <kostkon> blessjah_, go into tty, then try sudo apt-get dist-upgrade,   ubuntu-desktop is the metapacakge for the desktop session, you could try reinstalling it
[17:44] <blessjah_> kostkon: I'll give it a try
[17:44] <rww> blessjah_: install ubuntu-session
[17:44] <rww> ubottu: bug 1288903
[17:45] <blessjah_> rww: doesn't seem to work, I have nothing but "Ubuntu encountered internal error" message
[17:45] <kostkon> blessjah_, do a dist-upgrade first in any case
[17:45] <kostkon> blessjah_, what's the exact error
[17:46] <rww> (and I'm multitasking while at work, so I'll leave you with kostkon for followup :)
[17:46] <blessjah_> also, I had bunch of *:i386 packages installed, I'm x86_64, autoremoved them as apt-get suggested
[17:46] <blessjah_> right after I've installed irssi
[17:47] <blessjah_> kostkon: notify_osd
[17:47] <kostkon> blessjah_, ok
[17:49] <blessjah_> ok, it seems that dist-upgrade worked (cmd is still running, but I alredy can log in), but unity configuration is gone
[17:49] <blessjah_> not a big problem thou, I kept it close to default anyway
[17:50] <kostkon> blessjah_, you mean everything's gone to the defaults?
[17:50] <blessjah_> kostkon: yep
[17:50] <kostkon> blessjah_, meh not a big deal :P
[17:50] <blessjah_> not for me
[17:50] <kostkon> ;)
[17:52] <blessjah_> kostkon, rww: dist-upgrade helped, but unity config is gone (to default), thank for your help
[17:52] <kostkon> blessjah_, np
[17:54] <blessjah_> kostkon, rww: also, I've reinstalled ubuntu-desktop (I've removed some weird fonts and amazon stuff in the past)
[17:54] <blessjah_> meh, nautilus just crashed
[17:55] <kostkon> blessjah_, it usually respawns automatically
[17:56] <blessjah_> not this time
[17:56] <blessjah_> once again, not a big problem
[18:03] <TaZeR> hey does anyone know to install grub onto a a live usb with persistance made by the startup disk creator?  So i get a grub menu when it boots instead of the usually install/try screen
[18:04] <MonkeyDust> TaZeR  not sure if it can be done with startup disk creator, but multisystem does just that (pendrive)
[18:04] <TaZeR> i mean i created it with startup disk creator incase thats important
[18:05] <TaZeR> should i install grub to it as sdb or sdb1 for example and how would i create a a grub conf
[18:05] <MonkeyDust> TaZeR  my tip: erase it and use multisystem
[18:05] <Beldar> TaZeR, What is the end goal on using this usb with a live?
[18:06] <TaZeR> Beldar: to have a light portable os
[18:07] <Jafura> Hello
[18:07] <TaZeR> and thanks MoneyDust im looking into that tool
[18:08] <Jafura> I read from http://support.microsoft.com/kb/2970228 that Microsoft has added the new ruble sign to a few Windows fonts and keyboard drivers.
[18:08] <Dasm_> Hi hi
[18:08] <Jafura> I don’t care for the drivers since I don’t use the official ones, but are there any free fonts for Linux which already have integrated that symbol?
[18:08] <Dasm_> So, could someone please help me with my install? I'm having partitioning difficulties
[18:08] <Beldar> TaZeRIt It has limitations, no kernel upgrades and the persistent will fill up and is not cleanable, in other words a limited time and update use is all.
[18:08] <TaZeR> !report theegirl spambot
[18:09] <Pici> TaZeR: can you please pm me what it sent to you?
[18:09] <Pici> nm
[18:09] <TaZeR> im finee with that Beldar, not like there is another alternative im aware of
[18:10] <ObrienDave> hey Beldar got that grub issue working last night \o/
[18:10] <Beldar> TaZeR, A full install on a usb is another possibility, has it's smaller limitations in graphic drivers however which can be dealt with.
[18:11] <TaZeR> well that was my first thought but my usb drive is so slow, the system was unusable
[18:11] <TaZeR> need that ramdisk power
[18:11] <Beldar> ObrienDave, Cool, was it the boot partition needed loading?
[18:11] <pbx> is there any built-in keyboard shortcut for fast-switching users?  or a gnome-do action?
[18:12] <ObrienDave> Beldar, had him install grub-customizer, picked up the menu info post haste :)
[18:12] <Beldar> cool
[18:12] <mmcji> after upgrading to 14.04, i am experiencing lag when hitting return at cli.  If I hit return 4 or five times, i have to wait several seconds for each return key to process.  However, if I sudo su to root, then I do not have the problem at all.  Any ideas?
[18:12] <pitwalker> How can I enable tty1..tty6 on Ubuntu14.04LTS?
[18:13] <MonkeyDust> pitwalker  ctrl-alt F1 - F6
[18:13] <OerHeks> pitwalker, only TTY2/TTY7 works afaik
[18:13] <kostkon> mmcji, you probably need to clarify first what "at cli" actually means
[18:14] <Beldar> ObrienDave, They had 4 HD's and did not even know they were running legacy I figured there would be issues, thanks fortaking care of them. ;)
[18:14] <mmcji> command line interface.  any terminal, xterm, gnome-terminal etc..
[18:14] <kostkon> mmcji, ok
[18:14] <pitwalker> whics services must run to achieve to activate via keys???? Keys don't work since dist-upgrade
[18:15] <pitwalker> i want to use the tty2,3,4
[18:15] <svvitch> I have kubuntu and accidentally installed gnome-bluetooth, when I try to uninstall it apt-get ask for installation for a lot of other gnome packages https://dpaste.de/dfOX , how to avoid this situation ?
[18:15] <mmcji> i thought it might be a reverse dns issue, but I don't have the problem as root.  I changed the key slow settings in universal access, logged out and in w/no change.
[18:16] <mmcji> virtual terminals also exhibit the same behavior.
[18:17] <Dasm_> Excuse me, - could someone help me with my installation? I keep getting an error
[18:18] <bprompt> !ask | Dasm_
[18:18] <Beldar> Dasm_, Give the channel the error and details relevant.
[18:19] <ashgotti> Hello all. I'm trying to help a client with an install they need help troubleshooting. It is a web server and it was restarted but the page is no longer accessible. They're not running apache but don't have any documentation so I'm trying to figure out what the webserver is. Is there a way to get a list of all available services, not just the ones running?
[18:20] <svvitch> can somebody help me with this: I have kubuntu and accidentally installed gnome-bluetooth, when I try to uninstall it apt-get ask for installation for a lot of other gnome packages https://dpaste.de/dfOX , how to avoid this situation ?
[18:20] <ObrienDave> Beldar, my pleasure
[18:20] <preyalone> How can I set the Files explorer to open a particular folder (e.g. ~/Downloads) by default? This is not easy to Google.
[18:20] <ashgotti> I'm in the init.d folder and see all the services but don't know which the webserver one is. I know they are running angular.js but that's about it
[18:20] <Dasm_> I'm getting error 5.. which means that there's an issue with either the drive or the media- I was wondering if I could check the checksum for the image I have burned, re-download the image and re-burn, check the physical disc.. or what?
[18:21] <genii> ashgotti: initctl list   and service --status-all
[18:21] <Beldar> svvitch, We ask 10 min per reposting. Rooting the terminal is a bad method use sudo.
[18:21] <ashgotti> genii: thanks!
[18:21] <ashgotti> now to figure out what? - and + mean
[18:23] <Beldar> svvitch, Did the install add those packages?
[18:23] <Dasm_> Linux hates me :(
[18:24] <Beldar> Dasm_, Can we keep the emotions to a emotional linux is not sentient.
[18:24] <Beldar> to a limit*
[18:24] <svvitch> Beldar: https://dpaste.de/mn3f
[18:25] <bprompt> Dasm_:    when do you get the error?
[18:25] <Dasm_> O.o
[18:25] <genii> asakura2: + is started, - is stopped, ? is unknown
[18:25] <MonkeyDust> Dasm_  it simply means you're learning something new, like you once had to learn windows or mac
[18:25] <genii> Meh tab fail
[18:25] <Dasm_> bprompt:  I get the error when installing, after I choose the keyboard loadout
[18:25] <svvitch> Beldar: about root, I'll be very careful :)
[18:26] <bprompt> Dasm_:    using a usb install?
[18:26] <Beldar> svvitch, totally different, does not answer my question and is still a rooted teerminal.
[18:26] <Dasm_> bprompt: DVD
[18:26] <preyalone> AskUbuntu implies that Nautilus is still Ubuntu's default file manager under the hood. Is this still true in 14.04?
[18:26] <Beldar> svvitch, If you were being careful you would not be rooting the terminal.
[18:27] <MonkeyDust> preyalone  yes, but it's now called 'files'
[18:27] <Beldar> this s not debian
[18:27] <Beldar> is*
[18:27] <svvitch> Beldar: ok, now I use sudo :)
[18:27] <kostkon> preyalone, for now yes, in the future there will be a new file manager for unity8
[18:27] <bprompt> Dasm_:     .... tried ... maybe using an usb?  you can burn the iso to an usb stick.... 2gbs or more in size will do... just to rule out any dvd spinning delays or scratches on the media
[18:27] <preyalone> MonkeyDust: thanks. also, love that show. also, "Files" is nigh un-Googlable as a program :P
[18:27] <svvitch> Beldar: explain me pleas what to do ?
[18:28] <Dasm_> bprompt:  i did it with imgburn which has a hash check at the end of burn
[18:28] <Beldar> svvitch, I have asked you some simple questions, is english your default language, we have to communicate clearly?
[18:28] <Dasm_> And I don't have a USB drive handy
[18:28] <bastl> during upgrade 12.04 -> 14.04 I had a power outage. After resume, and login desktop does not start ...
[18:29] <bastl> power outage occured during configuring packages...
[18:29] <svvitch> Beldar: no, sorry it's not default lang :(
[18:29] <bastl> at 70% or so ...
[18:29] <Beldar> svvitch, What isd?
[18:29] <Beldar> is*
[18:29] <bprompt> Dasm_:      can you afford bandwidth wise a network installation?   that is, installing from online sources just using the network install option
[18:30] <kostkon> bastl, go into tty, e.g. ctrl+alt+f2  and give:   sudo apt-get dist-upgrade   to resume the upgrade
[18:30] <Dasm_> bprompt:  sure
[18:30] <Dasm_> I'll try it now, I'm on my laptop
[18:30] <svvitch> Beldar: romanian russian
[18:30] <Beldar> !rs | svvitch
[18:30] <Beldar> !ru
[18:30] <svvitch> ubottu:  ahahaha
[18:31] <bprompt> Dasm_:    http://www.ubuntu.com/download/alternative-downloads
[18:31] <bastl> kostkon: thanks, did that already without effect. dist-upgrade says everything is fine ....
[18:31] <kostkon> bastl, sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade
[18:32] <Beldar> bastl, Get to a tty and run sudo apt-get -f install  and pray
[18:32] <kostkon> bastl, then try doing a sudo apt-get install -f
[18:32] <kostkon> oh Beldar said it first
[18:33] <genii> bastl: If you can ctrl-alt-f1 to console, can try: sudo mv /var/lib/dpkg/status /var/lib/dpkg/status-copy    and then put an older one back that has valid install stauses: sudo cp /var/backups/dpkg.status.0 /var/lib/dpkg/status     and then retry all the usual apt-get -f install and so on
[18:34] <bastl> apt-get upgrafde or install -f has no effect ...
[18:34] <bastl> genii: ill try that
[18:35] <Beldar> bastl, no install -f was suggested
[18:35] <Beldar> err my mistake
[18:36] <missvaleska> why does nautilus hate right clicking?
[18:36] <missvaleska> When ever I do it nautilus completely freezes if not crashes.
[18:36]  * Beldar is at the start of caffeine loading
[18:37]  * genii slides Beldar a fresh mug
[18:37]  * ObrienDave is in the middle of a major caffeine fix ;P
[18:37] <Beldar> missvaleska, See if the guest account is the same.
[18:39] <Beldar> robothead, Are you human?
[18:41] <raggg> i am getting a black screen if i unplug x230 laptop from dock while suspended and then resume, has anyone managed to solve this issue?
[18:42] <ntvalk> hey
[18:42] <preyalone> configured nautilus to open ~/Downloads by default, according to various tutorials. but my configuration file seems to have no effect. rebooted and everything. https://gist.github.com/mcandre/595117b643ba456d0470
[18:43] <preyalone> er, maybe ~ is a bad idea in a conf file
[18:43] <preyalone> would $HOME be better?
[18:43] <preyalone> or even just 'Downloads'?
[18:45] <bastl> still no luck. seems to me that gnome does not start correctly ...
[18:47] <mrvadon> hello everyone
[18:48] <ObrienDave> greetings and welcome
[18:48] <preyalone> manually running `nautilus --new-window $HOME/Downloads` in a terminal works. seems that the Nautilus icon on the Unity dock isn't respecting my configuration file
[18:48] <bastl> damnit so long that I fiddled around with linuxes ...
[18:48] <bastl> where can I see logs of desktop startup ??
[18:49] <bastl> how can I soft-reset X (former alt-ctrl-backspace)
[18:49] <bastl> ?
[18:51] <malkauns> bastl: sudo service lightdm restart
[18:51] <th3raid0r> Hi guys! I am currently having difficulty with GRUB2 and UEFI. It is simply this, for some reason, grub doesn't know where it's config is unless I manually define it on boot (using the configfile command). Where would I go ahead and update it so that it will boot without manual intervention?
[18:51] <bastl> malkauns: thanks
[18:51] <bastl> what about logs ?
[18:52] <bastl> during login it freezes
[18:52] <bastl> ( i mean graphical login)
[18:52] <mrvadon> 010111010000111110101010101000010111111010101010000101111010101010101
[18:52] <malkauns> hmm
[18:53] <malkauns> u have an nvidia gpu?
[18:53] <bastl> dunno
[18:53] <bastl> desktop computer is quite old
[18:53] <malkauns> u should know :)
[18:53] <malkauns> ah
[18:53] <MonkeyDust> malkauns  please say 'you', not 'u'
[18:54] <bastl> since I work as profeesional, I dont care so much about "playing aroung" with my home IT ... ;-)
[18:54] <mrvadon> who uses tmux?
[18:55] <Beldar> mrvadon, This is support not polling, state the issue for help.
[18:55] <MonkeyDust> mrvadon  ask your question to find out
[18:56] <Eray> Hello, anyone can help me for SAMBA ?
[18:56] <Eray> Hello, anyone can help me for SAMBA ?
[18:57] <Eray> its important pls.. :(
[18:57] <Beldar> Eray, Not without a description to the channel
[18:57] <Beldar> Eray, And no pleading please.
[18:58] <MonkeyDust> Eray  let's hear it!
[18:58] <Eray> ok sorry, My problem with permissions. My network is; Windows8 - Ubuntu. I'm using Samba. When (Windows8) create, (Ubuntu) can edit. When (Ubuntu) create, (Windows) can't edit
[18:59] <Eray> When Windows created a file, its myusername:users
[18:59] <Eray> When Ubuntu created a file, its myusername:myusername
[18:59] <MonkeyDust> Eray  are you now in ubuntu or in windows?
[18:59] <Eray> ubuntu
[19:00] <Eray> windows8 pc near to me, on my friend
[19:00] <th3raid0r> Hi guys! I am currently having difficulty with GRUB2 and UEFI. It is simply this, for some reason, grub doesn't know where it's config is unless I manually define it on boot (using the configfile command). Where would I go ahead and update it so that it will boot without manual intervention? Additional details: EFI partition is present and functioning, single hard disk, 0,0 is EFI partition. 0,1 is /. 0,2 is /home. 0,3 is SWAP. No o
[19:00] <preyalone> looks like there are several nautilus configuration files: nautilus-autorun-software.desktop  nautilus-connect-server.desktop  nautilus-folder-handler.desktop
[19:00] <preyalone> nautilus-classic.desktop           nautilus.desktop                 nautilus-home.desktop
[19:01] <Eray> How can I add access myusername group in samba ?
[19:01] <preyalone> which one controls the folder that opens when i click the dock icon?
[19:01] <th3raid0r> preyalone, nautilus.desktop
[19:02] <juniour> hi i am modifing sudoers for a user , i give user ALL=(ALL:ALL) NOPASSWD:ALL . but it ask for password y?? where i am doing mistake
[19:03] <Eray> anyone can help for samba ?
[19:03] <knv> rfhchchjv
[19:03] <juniour> ??
[19:03] <knv> tvfvbf
[19:03] <Beldar> juniour, No password is a bad idea.
[19:03] <Slart> juniour: you did log out and in again?
[19:04] <juniour> Beldar test i iwll remove, just for test purpose leaning
[19:04] <aguitel> laptop asus X550LA mouse touchpad not working ,anyone know this?
[19:04] <juniour> Slart nope
[19:04] <juniour> i need to relogin to take effect??
[19:04] <Slart> juniour: these kind of things might need you to login again
[19:04] <juniour> got it bro :)
[19:05] <MonkeyDust> juniour  IF linux allows you to disable the password completely
[19:05] <bastl> I have a broken system after broked release-upgrade. I wonder about xorg config. someone wanna chack my latest xorg.log? http://paste.ubuntu.com/8056130 ??
[19:06] <juniour> andother question, if i give su and i give admin passord it give authentication failure y???
[19:06] <bastl> actually I see a backuped xorg.conf, but no current !?
[19:06] <Slart> juniour: oh.. and make sure you're using visudo to edit the sudoers file.. not regular gedit or something like that
[19:06] <juniour> yep sudo visudo . i dit it
[19:06] <MonkeyDust> juniour  methinks you're ruining your system
[19:07] <juniour> MonkeyDust why i get autnetication failure for su ??
[19:07] <Slart> juniour: and I think your line has to be after the admin-line.. or it might be overwritten by the admin settings
[19:07] <varunendra> juniour, If that user needs YOU to do that for them, they clearly are not familiar with Linux. So what you are doing by allowing NOPASSWD for ALL, is a guarantee of a severy broken system in a few weeks if not days.
[19:09] <MonkeyDust> juniour  and if you are the 'expert' and have to ask such questions, i guess it's a *very* bad thing to do
[19:09] <juniour> varunendra i am running my another ubuntu in virtualbox. i am doing all test for learning purpose no one asked me anything. i know all consiquences and security
[19:09] <preyalone> th3raid0r: works for me! https://github.com/mcandre/dotfiles/blob/master/nautilus.desktop
[19:09] <hellslinger> hi guys, does anyone know why a process started by an init.d script takes 50% cpu (it waits for network connection) but if it is started on command line by user, it takes 0% ??
[19:10] <varunendra> juniour, it's fine then, as long as it is limited to experiments on a non-critical system. :)
[19:10] <Beldar> preyalone, Not even a related issue, please help where you know exactly only.
[19:11] <juniour> varundra who the hell will give nopasswd to critical system,they might be fool :)
[19:11] <attika> st
[19:12] <attika> www.europeserv.org
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[19:12] <unopaste> attika you have been muted for 60 seconds as it looks like you are pasting lots of lines into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com and paste just the URL of your data here when you are unmuted
[19:12] <juniour> attika dont spam
[19:12] <Eray> anyone can help for my samba problem ?
[19:12] <Eray> i descripted
[19:13] <MonkeyDust> Eray  press the up key to repeat the question
[19:13] <Eray> i paste to laravel.io/bin :)
[19:13] <Eray> wait 1m
[19:14] <ObrienDave> and then what?
[19:16] <Eray> my samba problem: http://laravel.io/bin/937dR
[19:17] <MonkeyDust> Eray  we don't like walls of text
[19:17] <Eray> but its problem paste bin ?
[19:18] <Eray> i writed small text at top. I said at top "When ubuntu created a file, windows 8 can't edit"
[19:19] <th3raid0r> Hi guys! I am currently having difficulty with GRUB2 and UEFI. It is simply this, for some reason, grub doesn't know where it's config is unless I manually define it on boot (using the configfile command). Where would I go ahead and update it so that it will boot without manual intervention? Additional details: EFI partition is present and functioning, single hard disk, 0,0 is EFI partition. 0,1 is /. 0,2 is /home. 0,3 is SWAP. No o
[19:19] <varunendra> juniour, in reply to "who the hell will give nopasswd..." - apparently, all the gui 3g modem applications that I have tried so far do, e.g. Mobile Partner :p
[19:19] <rww> th3raid0r: your message got cut off at "0,3 is SWAP. No o"
[19:19] <rww> (IRC has a 512-byte total message length limit, including protocol overhead)
[19:20] <Dasm_> UGH, my partitions are a mess now
[19:21] <Eray> my samba problem: When Ubuntu create a file;   file user: myusername   file group: myusername   Windows 8 can't edit/modify.
[19:22] <MonkeyDust> Eray  maybe the people in ##windows know how windows works
[19:22] <Eray> problem is in samba
[19:22] <Eray> I must add myusername support in samba
[19:22] <Eray> but how :(
[19:22] <MonkeyDust> !samba
[19:23] <Eray> ty
[19:23] <Beldar> Dasm_, The key here is details, can we get there rather than comments that have no value?
[19:23] <Eray> How can I add to my user a group ?
[19:23] <Eray> I want add nogroup to my user
[19:23] <Beldar> this is not chat
[19:25] <Slart> Eray: isn't there a "groups" command?
[19:25] <Dasm_> Beldar:  my partitions are being formatted in a way that aren't recognized by windows, and I don't know how to properly format in linux. Basically my HDDs (3 of them) are divided up into seperate partitions
[19:25] <swede30> hello channel!
[19:26] <Beldar> th3raid0r, I would use the bootrepair app and the bootinfo summary only, no fixes and post that at the ubuntu forum with UEFI in the header, great helpers there focused on this.
[19:26] <Eray> I used "usermod -g nogroup eray" but when I used "groups", I can't see nogroup
[19:26] <Slart> Eray: or perhaps usermod is a better choice
[19:26] <Slart> Eray: you logged in and out?
[19:26] <Beldar> Dasm_, Windows does not recognize linux ext type partitions, can you be more clear?
[19:27] <Eray> oh no, ok I'm trying
[19:27] <ObrienDave> Dasm_, can you run gparted and paste screenshots?
[19:28] <Dasm_> I can't run anything right now- So I just installed ubuntu on a partition, and I used /dev/sda  - so it installed, and when i rebooted, it went straight to windows?
[19:29] <Beldar> Dasm_, Be sure that HD is first read in the bios.
[19:30] <halvtand> Hello channel. I am pretty much a newbie ubuntu user and am in need of assistance. I am running ubuntu 14.04 LTS. A while ago I purchased the game Planet Stronhold from Humble bundle and have been trying to install it ever since. I've followed some guides on how to install from .tar.bz, but I can only extract the files, after that I cannot figure out how to continue. Could anyone be so kind and walk me through
[19:30] <halvtand> this?
[19:31] <Beldar> !bootinfo | Dasm_ From a live, this would be really helpful to see.
[19:32] <Beldar> !tar | halvtand
[19:32] <rww> They already extracted it, Beldar.
[19:32] <juniour> MonkeyDust test ALL=(ALL:ALL) NOPASSWD:ALL . i restarted but sudo prompt for passwd y??
[19:32] <Beldar> rww, We don;t know if extracted correctly however.
[19:33] <juniour>  test ALL=(ALL:ALL) NOPASSWD:ALL . i restarted but sudo prompt for passwd y??
[19:33] <halvtand> Beldar Thank you for the tip, I'll check it out and report back shortly.
[19:33] <Dasm_> I chaned the boot device to the HDD with the partition that contains ubuntu and then booted, now I'm looking at a blank screen with a blinking cursor
[19:33] <MonkeyDust> juniour  yes, i think linux prevents it, like that well known command cannot be executed
[19:34] <Beldar> halvtand, Once extracted it has to be built I would assume, most tar do.
[19:34] <rah> I'm trying to upgrade from 13.04
[19:34] <Beldar> Dasm_, What type of partition was ubuntu installed in?
[19:35] <Dasm_> I'm really not sure, it was installed onto one of my secondary HDDs
[19:35] <Beldar> Dasm_, Was there an unallocated space or did you use the install alongside option?
[19:36] <rah> the upgrade program has lots of errors about not being able to download Packages files from gb.archive.ubuntu.com
[19:36] <rah> how can I upgrade from 13.04 to 14.04?
[19:36] <Dasm_> I used the net installer because I was getting error 5
[19:36] <Beldar> rah, Did you use the eol upgrade?
[19:36] <Dasm_> OKAY awesome, I selected something wrong apparently, now I have a bootloader
[19:36] <MonkeyDust> rah  you can't, fresh install is adviced
[19:36] <rah> dafuq?
[19:36] <rah> I've done it before
[19:36] <rah> a number of times
[19:37] <Beldar> rah, NO swearing please.
[19:37] <Slart> !13.04
[19:37] <ObrienDave> !eol
[19:37] <rah> Beldar: what do you mean by "use" the "eol upgrade"?
[19:37] <Beldar> !eol | rah
[19:37] <CodeGosu> i did run grub repair, i dont have windows in boot loader, here is my df -h
[19:37] <CodeGosu> http://pastebin.com/CttfFKeK
[19:37] <CodeGosu> /dev/sdb5 is my windows drive, how can i add it to grub?
[19:38] <myraft> hello, really stuck with 14.04. The logon screen is frozen. Can not put username / password. I can ssh to the the machine from another machine.
[19:38] <Slart> rah: you'll have to set your system to use the old-archives repository so you can do the upgrade.. it's a manual change you'll have to do then I think it'll work
[19:38] <myraft> Any help / idea will be highly appreciated
[19:38] <fission6> how do i start something via command line in /etc/init/
[19:38] <Beldar> CodeGosu, Bootrepair generates the bootinfo summary can you post it?
[19:38] <myraft> @fission6: init.d/start
[19:39] <fission6> ?
[19:39] <fission6> i have a .conf in /etc/init/
[19:39] <fission6> ie /etc/init/uwsgi.con
[19:39] <fission6> ie /etc/init/uwsgi.conf
[19:39] <rah> Beldar: there is no information on the EOLUpgrades page on upgrading from 13.04
[19:39] <myraft> hello, really stuck with 14.04. The logon screen is frozen. Can not put username / password. I can ssh to the the machine from another machine. Any help ?
[19:40] <Beldar> rah, You just need the sources list change it is the same for all releases.
[19:40] <MonkeyDust> rah  you'd have to upgrade to 13.10, but that's !eol too
[19:40] <halvtand> Beldar, What I got from the page was that .tar.bz2 can either be extracted with archive manager or with some code via the terminal. I used the archive manager. I've also moved the whole extracted directory to the desktop for convenience. The guides I've read tells me to find a file with a "ls command". I don't really know what that is, or how to find it.
[19:40] <finlstrm> any one having suspend/resumes issues with trusty kernel 3.13.0-34?
[19:40] <rah> Beldar: so it has to be done by dist-upgrade?
[19:41] <rah> Beldar: the updater program just won't work?
[19:41] <Beldar> rah, dist-upgrade is an in distro command.
[19:41] <ObrienDave> rah, sudo update-manager -d, iirc
[19:41] <rah> Beldar: I don't understand what you mean
[19:41] <rah> ObrienDave: that will work having changed sources.list?
[19:42] <Beldar> rah, after a OS goes eol you  have no access to the ubuntu repos with a standard sources list
[19:42] <Dasm_> Okay, so I installed 14.03.1 - and I got a boot menu, so I booted into ubuntu- and now I'm at a command line prompt- Did I install something wrong?
 Beldar: I don't understand what you mean you used dist-upgrade as conceptually it is an actual command is all
[19:42] <myraft> folks - any help. Stuck on login screen. Keyboard / mouse won't respond. I can ssh to the machine
[19:43] <rah> Beldar: I don't need access to the ubnutu repos; the update-manager does
[19:43] <Beldar> rah, not for an eol upgrade.
[19:44] <MonkeyDust> rah  fresh install takes about 15 minutes, that's less than the time you spent here
[19:44] <ObrienDave> rah, sudo update-manager -c
[19:44] <Beldar> rah, You have only one sources.list it needs to be changed for an eol upgrade.
[19:44] <rah> MonkeyDust: I think your estimate is a gross under-estimate
[19:45] <rah> what's the code name for 13.10?
[19:45] <finlstrm> rah: when using an SSD an/or USB install stick... perfect estimate
[19:46] <rah> saucy apparently
[19:46] <rah> finlstrm: I disagree
[19:46] <MonkeyDust> rah  please continue rejecting every and any advice you're getting here
[19:46] <CodeGosu> bootinfo summary http://paste.ubuntu.com/8056407/
[19:46] <rah> MonkeyDust: please continue giving poor advice :-)
[19:47] <ObrienDave> rah, you can disagree all you like, you'll just irritate people who are trying to help you for free
[19:47] <rww> I don't think meta-arguments like this are going to get anyone anywhere, folks.
[19:47] <myraft> @monkeydust:  really stuck with 14.04. The logon screen is frozen. Can not put username / password. I can ssh to the the machine from another machine. Any help ?
[19:47] <krizoek> good day. "Ubuntu, a widely used and influential GNU/Linux distribution, has installed surveillance code. When the user searches her own local files for a string using the Ubuntu desktop, Ubuntu sends that string to one of Canonical's servers. (Canonical is the company that develops Ubuntu.)" is there a way to disable information to be sent to the canonical servers?
[19:47] <finlstrm> myraft: have you reseated your keyboard and mouse
[19:48] <myraft> @finlstrm: yeah
[19:48] <Slart> krizoek: isn't it one of the unity "lenses" ?
[19:48] <Octavian> Hello
[19:48] <krizoek> im not sure Slart
[19:48] <ObrienDave> Slart, krizoek, yea, easy to remove
[19:48] <finlstrm> myraft: run lsusb while ssh into the box, see if they are detected
[19:48] <myraft> something is not right, the resolution is also messed up on the logon screeen
[19:48] <krizoek> is it called unity lenses?
[19:49] <rah> apt keeps trying to download armhf Packages files
[19:49] <rww> krizoek: I believe there's an option in the Privacy window of System Settings to disable remote searches. Not 100% sure, since I don't use Unity.
[19:49] <myraft> @finlstrm: doing so now. Thanks
[19:49] <rah> I forget how to modify the arch list for multiarch
[19:49] <rah> how do I do that?
[19:49] <finlstrm> myraft: no problem
[19:49] <krizoek> ok
[19:49] <marek_> quit
[19:49] <rww> rah: dpkg --add-architecture and dpkg --remove-architecture
[19:49] <krizoek> ty
[19:49] <Slart> krizoek: I think that's the term they use, yes
[19:50] <rah> rww: thanks
[19:50] <rah> rww: is there a configuration file where that's stored?
[19:50] <Beldar> CodeGosu, Heh that is a mess but try sudo update-grub
[19:50] <rww> rah: I believe so, but --remove-architecture does additional checking to make sure no packages from that architecture are installed before removing to prevent issues, so I'd stick to that
[19:50] <myraft> @finlstrm: did that. Any idea?
[19:51] <rah> mmm
[19:51] <finlstrm> myraft: your keyboard and mouse were there?
[19:51] <rah> rww: do you know what the file is, just out of interest?
[19:53] <CodeGosu> basicaly i moved 2 harddrives from one pc to another, it can see linux on one drive and boot from it, i can acess windows partition but cant add it to boot.  usualy easy way to fix it is to install new windows somewhere that will fix boot for all avalible windows instalations, then to grub-repair from live linux, but i was wondering if ther was any faster way
[19:53] <halvtand> Beldar, What I got from the page was that .tar.bz2 can either be extracted with archive manager or with some code via the terminal. I used the archive manager. I've also moved the whole extracted directory to the desktop for convenience. The guides I've read tells me to find a file with a "ls command". I don't really know what that is, or how to find it.
[19:53] <myraft> @finlstrm: I am not sure I follow your question/.?
[19:54] <myraft> I did lsusb command before and after plugin
[19:54] <Beldar> halvtand, I have rarely had to mess with a tar, and never this game, so not much I can do.
[19:55] <halvtand> beldar, alright, thanks anyway.
[19:55] <ObrienDave> halvtand, ls is the directory LiSt command
[19:56] <Dasm_> does the net booter not download a GUI?
[19:56] <ObrienDave> Dasm_, eventually, yes
[19:57] <Dasm_> I have work to do?
[19:57] <Beldar> CodeGosu, What has a sudo update-grub shown, not I use your nick to address you.
[19:57] <CodeGosu> Found linux image: /boot/vmlinuz-3.11.0-26-generic
[19:57] <CodeGosu> Found initrd image: /boot/initrd.img-3.11.0-26-generic
[19:57] <CodeGosu> Found linux image: /boot/vmlinuz-3.11.0-24-lowlatency
[19:57] <CodeGosu> Found initrd image: /boot/initrd.img-3.11.0-24-lowlatency
[19:57] <CodeGosu> Found linux image: /boot/vmlinuz-3.11.0-24-generic
[19:57] <CodeGosu> Found initrd image: /boot/initrd.img-3.11.0-24-generic
[19:57] <CodeGosu> Found linux image: /boot/vmlinuz-3.11.0-18-lowlatency
[19:57] <unopaste> CodeGosu you have been muted for 60 seconds as it looks like you are pasting lots of lines into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com and paste just the URL of your data here when you are unmuted
[19:57] <Slart> Dasm_: it uses a text-based installer if that's what you mean.. but it will be happy to install a gui like gnome or unity for you
[19:58] <Dasm_> Slart:  When I log in with my username and password, I only have a command line
[19:58] <ObrienDave> halvtand, most Linux packages are not installed like windows. you find the executable shell file and run it
[19:59] <halvtand> ObrienDave: In the directory I got from ectracting the .tar.bz2 I have three folders, three html shortcuts (none with instructions) and two files ending with .py and .sh. Could it be any of those?
[19:59] <Beldar> CodeGosu, You have a terrible mess there, I don't have the patience nor time to figure it out, I doubt anyone here will touch it to be honest.
[19:59] <netlar> Anyone have success getting bluetooth speakers working with 14.04?
[19:59] <ObrienDave> halvtand, the .sh
[20:00] <ObrienDave> halvtand, .sh means SHell file. .py is PYthon
[20:00] <Adam_ActiveState> any idea if Ubuntu is going to have any issues on the new displays and graphics cards on the Asus NX500?
[20:00] <Slart> Dasm_: not sure what happened then.. it's been quite a while since I used the minimal installer... I usually just go with a full install and a usb-stick
[20:00] <Adam_ActiveState> it's a 4K display
[20:00] <Dasm_> apparently I have to apt-get
[20:01] <felipealmeida> what is the channel for ubuntu touch?
[20:01] <Slart> Dasm_: there might be a meta package you can install.. try   sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[20:01] <Slart> !info ubuntu-desktop
[20:01] <ObrienDave> #ubuntu-touch
[20:01] <ObrienDave> felipealmeida, #ubuntu-touch
[20:01] <felipealmeida> ObrienDave: thanks
[20:01] <Slart> Dasm_: that should give you all the stuff from a normal desktop install
[20:01] <Slart> Dasm_: (if that's what you want)
[20:01] <Dasm_> awesoe
[20:01] <Adam_ActiveState> ?
[20:02] <Dasm_> Uhmm- I have to, I've never used linux before and I haven't used a command line since DOS in 93
[20:03] <Slart> Dasm_: then go with the ubuntu-desktop package.. that's a good starting point if you're new to linux
[20:03] <Adam_ActiveState> Dasm_: you're in the right place though
[20:03] <halvtand> ObrienDave: Right click -> "open with run software". Computer loads for a few seconds and then nothing.
[20:03] <Adam_ActiveState> people here can walk you through everything
[20:03] <Dasm_> I still can't believe linux distros are free.. like.. a free OS
[20:04] <ObrienDave> Dasm_, or if you prefer a more windows looking desktop, xubuntu-desktop
[20:04] <Adam_ActiveState> Dasm_: spread the word
[20:04] <Adam_ActiveState> Dasm_: I'd keep to Unity on Ubuntu
[20:04] <Dasm_> Unity engine?
[20:04] <Dasm_> like... the game engine?
[20:04] <Adam_ActiveState> desktop env
[20:04] <kostkon> Dasm_, Unity desktop
[20:05] <Slart> Dasm_: same name, different thing
[20:05] <ObrienDave> unity is the name of the default Ubuntu desktop
[20:05] <Adam_ActiveState> Unity is overused in the industry
[20:05] <Adam_ActiveState> it's an IoC framework it Microsoft as well
[20:05] <Dasm_> I would actually rather have something that looks different than windows
[20:05] <kostkon> Adam_ActiveState, it's one of those words yeah
[20:05] <marvin-hh> Dasm_: the reasoning is very simple; nobody provided a working operating system, so a nerd built one. Other nerds followed.
[20:05] <flashcactus> o/ Dasm_
[20:05] <Dasm_> HEY! I can install Xubuntu desktop.. is that what I want?
[20:06] <ObrienDave> Dasm_, most 'buntus are the same core system just different desktops. i use XFCE, xubuntu
[20:06] <Adam_ActiveState> Dasm_: you want unity
[20:06] <flashcactus> Dasm_, it's not the whole thing
[20:06] <ObrienDave> xubuntu ;P
[20:06] <kostkon> Dasm_, give unity a test drive first imho
[20:06] <flashcactus> Dasm_, you do not want unity
[20:06] <Adam_ActiveState> Dasm_: you'll experience the least amount of friction
[20:06] <marvin-hh> My Xorg uses 2.2GB of memory.
[20:06] <Dasm_> Okay.. hold one... I have a selection screen for a bunch of software to install
[20:06] <Beldar> OH boy the channel fills with garbage answering off topic with off topic wonderful
[20:07] <marvin-hh> Can you provide any reason for it doing that?
[20:07] <flashcactus> Anyway, can anyone provide a diff between the netinst version and the dvd version?
[20:07] <Adam_ActiveState> Beldar: how meta of you
[20:07] <marvin-hh> Why don't you have in your release notes that Xorg is full of memory leaks?
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[20:07] <HalfTunn> CRUCIFY BASTARD CHRIST SATAN IS THE LORD AND WILL PREVAIL! CRUCIFY BASTARD CHRIST SATAN IS THE LORD AND WILL PREVAIL! CRUCIFY BASTARD CHRIST SATAN IS THE LORD AND WILL PREVAIL! CRUCIFY BASTARD CHRIST SATAN IS THE LORD AND WILL PREVAIL! CRUCIFY BASTARD CHRIST SATAN IS THE LORD AND WILL PREVAIL! CRUCIFY BASTARD CHRIST SATAN IS THE LORD AND WILL PREVAIL! CRUCIFY BASTARD CHRIST SATAN IS THE LORD AND WILL PREVAIL! CRUCIFY BASTARD CHRIST SATAN IS THE LORD AND WILL P
[20:07] <Kamode> CRUCIFY BASTARD CHRIST SATAN IS THE LORD AND WILL PREVAIL! CRUCIFY BASTARD CHRIST SATAN IS THE LORD AND WILL PREVAIL! CRUCIFY BASTARD CHRIST SATAN IS THE LORD AND WILL PREVAIL! CRUCIFY BASTARD CHRIST SATAN IS THE LORD AND WILL PREVAIL! CRUCIFY BASTARD CHRIST SATAN IS THE LORD AND WILL PREVAIL! CRUCIFY BASTARD CHRIST SATAN IS THE LORD AND WILL PREVAIL! CRUCIFY BASTARD CHRIST SATAN IS THE LORD AND WILL PREVAIL! CRUCIFY BASTA
[20:07] <whyth> CRUCIFY BASTARD CHRIST SATAN IS THE LORD AND WILL PREVAIL! CRUCIFY BASTARD CHRIST SATAN IS THE LORD AND WILL PREVAIL! CRUCIFY BASTARD CHRIST SATAN IS THE LORD AND WILL PREVAIL! CRUCIFY BASTARD CHRIST SATAN IS THE LORD AND WILL PREVAIL! CRUCIFY BASTARD CHRIST SATAN IS THE LORD AND WILL PREVAIL! CRUCIFY BASTARD CHRIST SATAN IS THE LORD AND WILL PREVAIL! CRUCIFY BASTARD CHRIST SATAN IS THE LORD AND WILL PREVAIL! CRUCIFY BASTARD CHRIST SATAN IS THE
[20:07] <Harnigan> CRUCIFY BASTARD CHRIST SATAN IS THE LORD AND WILL PREVAIL! CRUCIFY BASTARD CHRIST SATAN IS THE LORD AND WILL PREVAIL! CRUCIFY BASTARD CHRIST SATAN IS THE LORD AND WILL PREVAIL! CRUCIFY BASTARD CHRIST SATAN IS THE LORD AND WILL PREVAIL! CRUCIFY BASTARD CHRIST SATAN IS THE LORD AND WILL PREVAIL! CRUCIFY BASTARD CHRIST SATAN IS THE LORD AND WILL PREVAIL! CRUCIFY BASTARD CHRIST SATAN IS THE LORD AND WILL PREVAIL! CRUCIFY BASTARD CHRIST SATAN IS 
[20:07] <Renny> CRUCIFY BASTARD CHRIST SATAN IS THE LORD AND WILL PREVAIL! CRUCIFY BASTARD CHRIST SATAN IS THE LORD AND WILL PREVAIL! CRUCIFY BASTARD CHRIST SATAN IS THE LORD AND WILL PREVAIL! CRUCIFY BASTARD CHRIST SATAN IS THE LORD AND WILL PREVAIL! CRUCIFY BASTARD CHRIST SATAN IS THE LORD AND WILL PREVAIL! CRUCIFY BASTARD CHRIST SATAN IS THE LORD AND WILL PREVAIL! CRUCIFY BASTARD CHRIST SATAN IS THE LORD AND WILL PREVAIL! CRUCIFY BASTARD CHRIST SATAN IS THE 
[20:07] <nge3074> CRUCIFY BASTARD CHRIST SATAN IS THE LORD AND WILL PREVAIL! CRUCIFY BASTARD CHRIST SATAN IS THE LORD AND WILL PREVAIL! CRUCIFY BASTARD CHRIST SATAN IS THE LORD AND WILL PREVAIL! CRUCIFY BASTARD CHRIST SATAN IS THE LORD AND WILL PREVAIL! CRUCIFY BASTARD CHRIST SATAN IS THE LORD AND WILL PREVAIL! CRUCIFY BASTARD CHRIST SATAN IS THE LORD AND WILL PREVAIL! CRUCIFY BASTARD CHRIST SATAN IS THE LORD AND WILL PREVAIL! CRUCIFY BASTARD CHRIST SATAN IS THE LORD AND WILL PR
[20:07] <HalfTunn> CRUCIFY BASTARD CHRIST SATAN IS THE LORD AND WILL PREVAIL! CRUCIFY BASTARD CHRIST SATAN IS THE LORD AND WILL PREVAIL! CRUCIFY BASTARD CHRIST SATAN IS THE LORD AND WILL PREVAIL! CRUCIFY BASTARD CHRIST SATAN IS THE LORD AND WILL PREVAIL! CRUCIFY BASTARD CHRIST SATAN IS THE LORD AND WILL PREVAIL! CRUCIFY BASTARD CHRIST SATAN IS THE LORD AND WILL PREVAIL! CRUCIFY BASTARD CHRIST SATAN IS THE LORD AND WILL PREVAIL! CRUCIFY BASTARD CHRIST SATAN IS THE LORD AND WILL P
[20:07] <Kamode> CRUCIFY BASTARD CHRIST SATAN IS THE LORD AND WILL PREVAIL! CRUCIFY BASTARD CHRIST SATAN IS THE LORD AND WILL PREVAIL! CRUCIFY BASTARD CHRIST SATAN IS THE LORD AND WILL PREVAIL! CRUCIFY BASTARD CHRIST SATAN IS THE LORD AND WILL PREVAIL! CRUCIFY BASTARD CHRIST SATAN IS THE LORD AND WILL PREVAIL! CRUCIFY BASTARD CHRIST SATAN IS THE LORD AND WILL PREVAIL! CRUCIFY BASTARD CHRIST SATAN IS THE LORD AND WILL PREVAIL! CRUCIFY BASTA
[20:07] <HondaCD70> CRUCIFY BASTARD CHRIST SATAN IS THE LORD AND WILL PREVAIL! CRUCIFY BASTARD CHRIST SATAN IS THE LORD AND WILL PREVAIL! CRUCIFY BASTARD CHRIST SATAN IS THE LORD AND WILL PREVAIL! CRUCIFY BASTARD CHRIST SATAN IS THE LORD AND WILL PREVAIL! CRUCIFY BASTARD CHRIST SATAN IS THE LORD AND WILL PREVAIL! CRUCIFY BASTARD CHRIST SATAN IS THE LORD AND WILL PREVAIL! CRUCIFY BASTARD CHRIST SATAN IS THE LORD AND WILL PREVAIL! CRUCIFY BA
[20:07] <BrakeDancer> CRUCIFY BASTARD CHRIST SATAN IS THE LORD AND WILL PREVAIL! CRUCIFY BASTARD CHRIST SATAN IS THE LORD AND WILL PREVAIL! CRUCIFY BASTARD CHRIST SATAN IS THE LORD AND WILL PREVAIL! CRUCIFY BASTARD CHRIST SATAN IS THE LORD AND WILL PREVAIL! CRUCIFY BASTARD CHRIST SATAN IS THE LORD AND WILL PREVAIL! CRUCIFY BASTARD CHRIST SATAN IS THE LORD AND WILL PREVAIL! CRUCIFY BASTARD CHRIST SATAN IS THE LORD AND WILL PREVAIL! CRUCIFY BASTARD CHRIST SATAN IS THE LORD AND WIL
[20:07] <Renny> CRUCIFY BASTARD CHRIST SATAN IS THE LORD AND WILL PREVAIL! CRUCIFY BASTARD CHRIST SATAN IS THE LORD AND WILL PREVAIL! CRUCIFY BASTARD CHRIST SATAN IS THE LORD AND WILL PREVAIL! CRUCIFY BASTARD CHRIST SATAN IS THE LORD AND WILL PREVAIL! CRUCIFY BASTARD CHRIST SATAN IS THE LORD AND WILL PREVAIL! CRUCIFY BASTARD CHRIST SATAN IS THE LORD AND WILL PREVAIL! CRUCIFY BASTARD CHRIST SATAN IS THE LORD AND WILL PREVAIL! CRUCIFY BASTARD CHRIST SATAN IS THE 
[20:07] <whyth> CRUCIFY BASTARD CHRIST SATAN IS THE LORD AND WILL PREVAIL! CRUCIFY BASTARD CHRIST SATAN IS THE LORD AND WILL PREVAIL! CRUCIFY BASTARD CHRIST SATAN IS THE LORD AND WILL PREVAIL! CRUCIFY BASTARD CHRIST SATAN IS THE LORD AND WILL PREVAIL! CRUCIFY BASTARD CHRIST SATAN IS THE LORD AND WILL PREVAIL! CRUCIFY BASTARD CHRIST SATAN IS THE LORD AND WILL PREVAIL! CRUCIFY BASTARD CHRIST SATAN IS THE LORD AND WILL PREVAIL! CRUCIFY BASTARD CHRIST SATAN IS THE
[20:07] <Harnigan> CRUCIFY BASTARD CHRIST SATAN IS THE LORD AND WILL PREVAIL! CRUCIFY BASTARD CHRIST SATAN IS THE LORD AND WILL PREVAIL! CRUCIFY BASTARD CHRIST SATAN IS THE LORD AND WILL PREVAIL! CRUCIFY BASTARD CHRIST SATAN IS THE LORD AND WILL PREVAIL! CRUCIFY BASTARD CHRIST SATAN IS THE LORD AND WILL PREVAIL! CRUCIFY BASTARD CHRIST SATAN IS THE LORD AND WILL PREVAIL! CRUCIFY BASTARD CHRIST SATAN IS THE LORD AND WILL PREVAIL! CRUCIFY BASTARD CHRIST SATAN IS 
[20:07] <HalfTunn> CRUCIFY BASTARD CHRIST SATAN IS THE LORD AND WILL PREVAIL! CRUCIFY BASTARD CHRIST SATAN IS THE LORD AND WILL PREVAIL! CRUCIFY BASTARD CHRIST SATAN IS THE LORD AND WILL PREVAIL! CRUCIFY BASTARD CHRIST SATAN IS THE LORD AND WILL PREVAIL! CRUCIFY BASTARD CHRIST SATAN IS THE LORD AND WILL PREVAIL! CRUCIFY BASTARD CHRIST SATAN IS THE LORD AND WILL PREVAIL! CRUCIFY BASTARD CHRIST SATAN IS THE LORD AND WILL PREVAIL! CRUCIFY BASTARD CHRIST SATAN IS THE LORD AND WILL P
[20:07] <Kamode> CRUCIFY BASTARD CHRIST SATAN IS THE LORD AND WILL PREVAIL! CRUCIFY BASTARD CHRIST SATAN IS THE LORD AND WILL PREVAIL! CRUCIFY BASTARD CHRIST SATAN IS THE LORD AND WILL PREVAIL! CRUCIFY BASTARD CHRIST SATAN IS THE LORD AND WILL PREVAIL! CRUCIFY BASTARD CHRIST SATAN IS THE LORD AND WILL PREVAIL! CRUCIFY BASTARD CHRIST SATAN IS THE LORD AND WILL PREVAIL! CRUCIFY BASTARD CHRIST SATAN IS THE LORD AND WILL PREVAIL! CRUCIFY BASTA
[20:07] <Renny> CRUCIFY BASTARD CHRIST SATAN IS THE LORD AND WILL PREVAIL! CRUCIFY BASTARD CHRIST SATAN IS THE LORD AND WILL PREVAIL! CRUCIFY BASTARD CHRIST SATAN IS THE LORD AND WILL PREVAIL! CRUCIFY BASTARD CHRIST SATAN IS THE LORD AND WILL PREVAIL! CRUCIFY BASTARD CHRIST SATAN IS THE LORD AND WILL PREVAIL! CRUCIFY BASTARD CHRIST SATAN IS THE LORD AND WILL PREVAIL! CRUCIFY BASTARD CHRIST SATAN IS THE LORD AND WILL PREVAIL! CRUCIFY BASTARD CHRIST SATAN IS THE 
[20:07] <Harnigan> CRUCIFY BASTARD CHRIST SATAN IS THE LORD AND WILL PREVAIL! CRUCIFY BASTARD CHRIST SATAN IS THE LORD AND WILL PREVAIL! CRUCIFY BASTARD CHRIST SATAN IS THE LORD AND WILL PREVAIL! CRUCIFY BASTARD CHRIST SATAN IS THE LORD AND WILL PREVAIL! CRUCIFY BASTARD CHRIST SATAN IS THE LORD AND WILL PREVAIL! CRUCIFY BASTARD CHRIST SATAN IS THE LORD AND WILL PREVAIL! CRUCIFY BASTARD CHRIST SATAN IS THE LORD AND WILL PREVAIL! CRUCIFY BASTARD CHRIST SATAN IS 
[20:07] <whyth> CRUCIFY BASTARD CHRIST SATAN IS THE LORD AND WILL PREVAIL! CRUCIFY BASTARD CHRIST SATAN IS THE LORD AND WILL PREVAIL! CRUCIFY BASTARD CHRIST SATAN IS THE LORD AND WILL PREVAIL! CRUCIFY BASTARD CHRIST SATAN IS THE LORD AND WILL PREVAIL! CRUCIFY BASTARD CHRIST SATAN IS THE LORD AND WILL PREVAIL! CRUCIFY BASTARD CHRIST SATAN IS THE LORD AND WILL PREVAIL! CRUCIFY BASTARD CHRIST SATAN IS THE LORD AND WILL PREVAIL! CRUCIFY BASTARD CHRIST SATAN IS THE
[20:07] <kostkon> oh dear
[20:08] <nge3074> CRUCIFY BASTARD CHRIST SATAN IS THE LORD AND WILL PREVAIL! CRUCIFY BASTARD CHRIST SATAN IS THE LORD AND WILL PREVAIL! CRUCIFY BASTARD CHRIST SATAN IS THE LORD AND WILL PREVAIL! CRUCIFY BASTARD CHRIST SATAN IS THE LORD AND WILL PREVAIL! CRUCIFY BASTARD CHRIST SATAN IS THE LORD AND WILL PREVAIL! CRUCIFY BASTARD CHRIST SATAN IS THE LORD AND WILL PREVAIL! CRUCIFY BASTARD CHRIST SATAN IS THE LORD AND WILL PREVAIL! CRUCIFY BASTARD CHRIST SATAN IS THE LORD AND WILL PR
[20:08] <ccn6192> CRUCIFY BASTARD CHRIST SATAN IS THE LORD AND WILL PREVAIL! CRUCIFY BASTARD CHRIST SATAN IS THE LORD AND WILL PREVAIL! CRUCIFY BASTARD CHRIST SATAN IS THE LORD AND WILL PREVAIL! CRUCIFY BASTARD CHRIST SATAN IS THE LORD AND WILL PREVAIL! CRUCIFY BASTARD CHRIST SATAN IS THE LORD AND WILL PREVAIL! CRUCIFY BASTARD CHRIST SATAN IS THE LORD AND WILL PREVAIL! CRUCIFY BASTARD CHRIST SATAN IS THE LORD AND WILL PREVAIL! CRUCIFY BASTARD CHRIST SATAN IS THE LORD AND WILL PR
[20:08] <BrakeDancer> CRUCIFY BASTARD CHRIST SATAN IS THE LORD AND WILL PREVAIL! CRUCIFY BASTARD CHRIST SATAN IS THE LORD AND WILL PREVAIL! CRUCIFY BASTARD CHRIST SATAN IS THE LORD AND WILL PREVAIL! CRUCIFY BASTARD CHRIST SATAN IS THE LORD AND WILL PREVAIL! CRUCIFY BASTARD CHRIST SATAN IS THE LORD AND WILL PREVAIL! CRUCIFY BASTARD CHRIST SATAN IS THE LORD AND WILL PREVAIL! CRUCIFY BASTARD CHRIST SATAN IS THE LORD AND WILL PREVAIL! CRUCIFY BASTARD CHRIST SATAN IS THE LORD AND WIL
[20:08] <HalfTunn> CRUCIFY BASTARD CHRIST SATAN IS THE LORD AND WILL PREVAIL! CRUCIFY BASTARD CHRIST SATAN IS THE LORD AND WILL PREVAIL! CRUCIFY BASTARD CHRIST SATAN IS THE LORD AND WILL PREVAIL! CRUCIFY BASTARD CHRIST SATAN IS THE LORD AND WILL PREVAIL! CRUCIFY BASTARD CHRIST SATAN IS THE LORD AND WILL PREVAIL! CRUCIFY BASTARD CHRIST SATAN IS THE LORD AND WILL PREVAIL! CRUCIFY BASTARD CHRIST SATAN IS THE LORD AND WILL PREVAIL! CRUCIFY BASTARD CHRIST SATAN IS THE LORD AND WILL P
[20:08] <MailME> CRUCIFY BASTARD CHRIST SATAN IS THE LORD AND WILL PREVAIL! CRUCIFY BASTARD CHRIST SATAN IS THE LORD AND WILL PREVAIL! CRUCIFY BASTARD CHRIST SATAN IS THE LORD AND WILL PREVAIL! CRUCIFY BASTARD CHRIST SATAN IS THE LORD AND WILL PREVAIL! CRUCIFY BASTARD CHRIST SATAN IS THE LORD AND WILL PREVAIL! CRUCIFY BASTARD CHRIST SATAN IS THE LORD AND WILL PREVAIL! CRUCIFY BASTARD CHRIST SATAN IS THE LORD AND WILL PREVAIL! CRUCIFY BASTARD CHRIST SATAN IS THE LORD AND WILL PRE
[20:08] <xbn1262> CRUCIFY BASTARD CHRIST SATAN IS THE LORD AND WILL PREVAIL! CRUCIFY BASTARD CHRIST SATAN IS THE LORD AND WILL PREVAIL! CRUCIFY BASTARD CHRIST SATAN IS THE LORD AND WILL PREVAIL! CRUCIFY BASTARD CHRIST SATAN IS THE LORD AND WILL PREVAIL! CRUCIFY BASTARD CHRIST SATAN IS THE LORD AND WILL PREVAIL! CRUCIFY BASTARD CHRIST SATAN IS THE LORD AND WILL PREVAIL! CRUCIFY BASTARD CHRIST SATAN IS THE LORD AND WILL PREVAIL! CRUCIFY BASTARD CHRIST SATAN IS THE LORD AND WILL PR
[20:08] <whyth> CRUCIFY BASTARD CHRIST SATAN IS THE LORD AND WILL PREVAIL! CRUCIFY BASTARD CHRIST SATAN IS THE LORD AND WILL PREVAIL! CRUCIFY BASTARD CHRIST SATAN IS THE LORD AND WILL PREVAIL! CRUCIFY BASTARD CHRIST SATAN IS THE LORD AND WILL PREVAIL! CRUCIFY BASTARD CHRIST SATAN IS THE LORD AND WILL PREVAIL! CRUCIFY BASTARD CHRIST SATAN IS THE LORD AND WILL PREVAIL! CRUCIFY BASTARD CHRIST SATAN IS THE LORD AND WILL PREVAIL! CRUCIFY BASTARD CHRIST SATAN IS THE
[20:08] <Harnigan> CRUCIFY BASTARD CHRIST SATAN IS THE LORD AND WILL PREVAIL! CRUCIFY BASTARD CHRIST SATAN IS THE LORD AND WILL PREVAIL! CRUCIFY BASTARD CHRIST SATAN IS THE LORD AND WILL PREVAIL! CRUCIFY BASTARD CHRIST SATAN IS THE LORD AND WILL PREVAIL! CRUCIFY BASTARD CHRIST SATAN IS THE LORD AND WILL PREVAIL! CRUCIFY BASTARD CHRIST SATAN IS THE LORD AND WILL PREVAIL! CRUCIFY BASTARD CHRIST SATAN IS THE LORD AND WILL PREVAIL! CRUCIFY BASTARD CHRIST SATAN IS 
[20:08] <Renny> CRUCIFY BASTARD CHRIST SATAN IS THE LORD AND WILL PREVAIL! CRUCIFY BASTARD CHRIST SATAN IS THE LORD AND WILL PREVAIL! CRUCIFY BASTARD CHRIST SATAN IS THE LORD AND WILL PREVAIL! CRUCIFY BASTARD CHRIST SATAN IS THE LORD AND WILL PREVAIL! CRUCIFY BASTARD CHRIST SATAN IS THE LORD AND WILL PREVAIL! CRUCIFY BASTARD CHRIST SATAN IS THE LORD AND WILL PREVAIL! CRUCIFY BASTARD CHRIST SATAN IS THE LORD AND WILL PREVAIL! CRUCIFY BASTARD CHRIST SATAN IS THE 
[20:08] <halvtand> ObrienDave: Right click -> "open with run software". Computer loads for a few seconds and then nothing.
[20:08] <nge3074> CRUCIFY BASTARD CHRIST SATAN IS THE LORD AND WILL PREVAIL! CRUCIFY BASTARD CHRIST SATAN IS THE LORD AND WILL PREVAIL! CRUCIFY BASTARD CHRIST SATAN IS THE LORD AND WILL PREVAIL! CRUCIFY BASTARD CHRIST SATAN IS THE LORD AND WILL PREVAIL! CRUCIFY BASTARD CHRIST SATAN IS THE LORD AND WILL PREVAIL! CRUCIFY BASTARD CHRIST SATAN IS THE LORD AND WILL PREVAIL! CRUCIFY BASTARD CHRIST SATAN IS THE LORD AND WILL PREVAIL! CRUCIFY BASTARD CHRIST SATAN IS THE LORD AND WILL PR
[20:08] <HalfTunn> CRUCIFY BASTARD CHRIST SATAN IS THE LORD AND WILL PREVAIL! CRUCIFY BASTARD CHRIST SATAN IS THE LORD AND WILL PREVAIL! CRUCIFY BASTARD CHRIST SATAN IS THE LORD AND WILL PREVAIL! CRUCIFY BASTARD CHRIST SATAN IS THE LORD AND WILL PREVAIL! CRUCIFY BASTARD CHRIST SATAN IS THE LORD AND WILL PREVAIL! CRUCIFY BASTARD CHRIST SATAN IS THE LORD AND WILL PREVAIL! CRUCIFY BASTARD CHRIST SATAN IS THE LORD AND WILL PREVAIL! CRUCIFY BASTARD CHRIST SATAN IS THE LORD AND WILL P
[20:08] <BrakeDancer> CRUCIFY BASTARD CHRIST SATAN IS THE LORD AND WILL PREVAIL! CRUCIFY BASTARD CHRIST SATAN IS THE LORD AND WILL PREVAIL! CRUCIFY BASTARD CHRIST SATAN IS THE LORD AND WILL PREVAIL! CRUCIFY BASTARD CHRIST SATAN IS THE LORD AND WILL PREVAIL! CRUCIFY BASTARD CHRIST SATAN IS THE LORD AND WILL PREVAIL! CRUCIFY BASTARD CHRIST SATAN IS THE LORD AND WILL PREVAIL! CRUCIFY BASTARD CHRIST SATAN IS THE LORD AND WILL PREVAIL! CRUCIFY BASTARD CHRIST SATAN IS THE LORD AND WIL
[20:08] <MailME> CRUCIFY BASTARD CHRIST SATAN IS THE LORD AND WILL PREVAIL! CRUCIFY BASTARD CHRIST SATAN IS THE LORD AND WILL PREVAIL! CRUCIFY BASTARD CHRIST SATAN IS THE LORD AND WILL PREVAIL! CRUCIFY BASTARD CHRIST SATAN IS THE LORD AND WILL PREVAIL! CRUCIFY BASTARD CHRIST SATAN IS THE LORD AND WILL PREVAIL! CRUCIFY BASTARD CHRIST SATAN IS THE LORD AND WILL PREVAIL! CRUCIFY BASTARD CHRIST SATAN IS THE LORD AND WILL PREVAIL! CRUCIFY BASTARD CHRIST SATAN IS THE LORD AND WILL PRE
[20:08] <xbn1262> CRUCIFY BASTARD CHRIST SATAN IS THE LORD AND WILL PREVAIL! CRUCIFY BASTARD CHRIST SATAN IS THE LORD AND WILL PREVAIL! CRUCIFY BASTARD CHRIST SATAN IS THE LORD AND WILL PREVAIL! CRUCIFY BASTARD CHRIST SATAN IS THE LORD AND WILL PREVAIL! CRUCIFY BASTARD CHRIST SATAN IS THE LORD AND WILL PREVAIL! CRUCIFY BASTARD CHRIST SATAN IS THE LORD AND WILL PREVAIL! CRUCIFY BASTARD CHRIST SATAN IS THE LORD AND WILL PREVAIL! CRUCIFY BASTARD CHRIST SATAN IS THE LORD AND WILL PR
[20:08] <ccn6192> CRUCIFY BASTARD CHRIST SATAN IS THE LORD AND WILL PREVAIL! CRUCIFY BASTARD CHRIST SATAN IS THE LORD AND WILL PREVAIL! CRUCIFY BASTARD CHRIST SATAN IS THE LORD AND WILL PREVAIL! CRUCIFY BASTARD CHRIST SATAN IS THE LORD AND WILL PREVAIL! CRUCIFY BASTARD CHRIST SATAN IS THE LORD AND WILL PREVAIL! CRUCIFY BASTARD CHRIST SATAN IS THE LORD AND WILL PREVAIL! CRUCIFY BASTARD CHRIST SATAN IS THE LORD AND WILL PREVAIL! CRUCIFY BASTARD CHRIST SATAN IS THE LORD AND WILL PR
[20:08] <Renny> CRUCIFY BASTARD CHRIST SATAN IS THE LORD AND WILL PREVAIL! CRUCIFY BASTARD CHRIST SATAN IS THE LORD AND WILL PREVAIL! CRUCIFY BASTARD CHRIST SATAN IS THE LORD AND WILL PREVAIL! CRUCIFY BASTARD CHRIST SATAN IS THE LORD AND WILL PREVAIL! CRUCIFY BASTARD CHRIST SATAN IS THE LORD AND WILL PREVAIL! CRUCIFY BASTARD CHRIST SATAN IS THE LORD AND WILL PREVAIL! CRUCIFY BASTARD CHRIST SATAN IS THE LORD AND WILL PREVAIL! CRUCIFY BASTARD CHRIST SATAN IS THE 
[20:08] <Harnigan> CRUCIFY BASTARD CHRIST SATAN IS THE LORD AND WILL PREVAIL! CRUCIFY BASTARD CHRIST SATAN IS THE LORD AND WILL PREVAIL! CRUCIFY BASTARD CHRIST SATAN IS THE LORD AND WILL PREVAIL! CRUCIFY BASTARD CHRIST SATAN IS THE LORD AND WILL PREVAIL! CRUCIFY BASTARD CHRIST SATAN IS THE LORD AND WILL PREVAIL! CRUCIFY BASTARD CHRIST SATAN IS THE LORD AND WILL PREVAIL! CRUCIFY BASTARD CHRIST SATAN IS THE LORD AND WILL PREVAIL! CRUCIFY BASTARD CHRIST SATAN IS 
[20:08] <whyth> CRUCIFY BASTARD CHRIST SATAN IS THE LORD AND WILL PREVAIL! CRUCIFY BASTARD CHRIST SATAN IS THE LORD AND WILL PREVAIL! CRUCIFY BASTARD CHRIST SATAN IS THE LORD AND WILL PREVAIL! CRUCIFY BASTARD CHRIST SATAN IS THE LORD AND WILL PREVAIL! CRUCIFY BASTARD CHRIST SATAN IS THE LORD AND WILL PREVAIL! CRUCIFY BASTARD CHRIST SATAN IS THE LORD AND WILL PREVAIL! CRUCIFY BASTARD CHRIST SATAN IS THE LORD AND WILL PREVAIL! CRUCIFY BASTARD CHRIST SATAN IS THE
[20:08] <MailME> CRUCIFY BASTARD CHRIST SATAN IS THE LORD AND WILL PREVAIL! CRUCIFY BASTARD CHRIST SATAN IS THE LORD AND WILL PREVAIL! CRUCIFY BASTARD CHRIST SATAN IS THE LORD AND WILL PREVAIL! CRUCIFY BASTARD CHRIST SATAN IS THE LORD AND WILL PREVAIL! CRUCIFY BASTARD CHRIST SATAN IS THE LORD AND WILL PREVAIL! CRUCIFY BASTARD CHRIST SATAN IS THE LORD AND WILL PREVAIL! CRUCIFY BASTARD CHRIST SATAN IS THE LORD AND WILL PREVAIL! CRUCIFY BASTARD CHRIST SATAN IS THE LORD AND WILL PRE
[20:08] <BrakeDancer> CRUCIFY BASTARD CHRIST SATAN IS THE LORD AND WILL PREVAIL! CRUCIFY BASTARD CHRIST SATAN IS THE LORD AND WILL PREVAIL! CRUCIFY BASTARD CHRIST SATAN IS THE LORD AND WILL PREVAIL! CRUCIFY BASTARD CHRIST SATAN IS THE LORD AND WILL PREVAIL! CRUCIFY BASTARD CHRIST SATAN IS THE LORD AND WILL PREVAIL! CRUCIFY BASTARD CHRIST SATAN IS THE LORD AND WILL PREVAIL! CRUCIFY BASTARD CHRIST SATAN IS THE LORD AND WILL PREVAIL! CRUCIFY BASTARD CHRIST SATAN IS THE LORD AND WIL
[20:08] <xbn1262> CRUCIFY BASTARD CHRIST SATAN IS THE LORD AND WILL PREVAIL! CRUCIFY BASTARD CHRIST SATAN IS THE LORD AND WILL PREVAIL! CRUCIFY BASTARD CHRIST SATAN IS THE LORD AND WILL PREVAIL! CRUCIFY BASTARD CHRIST SATAN IS THE LORD AND WILL PREVAIL! CRUCIFY BASTARD CHRIST SATAN IS THE LORD AND WILL PREVAIL! CRUCIFY BASTARD CHRIST SATAN IS THE LORD AND WILL PREVAIL! CRUCIFY BASTARD CHRIST SATAN IS THE LORD AND WILL PREVAIL! CRUCIFY BASTARD CHRIST SATAN IS THE LORD AND WILL PR
[20:08] <Renny> CRUCIFY BASTARD CHRIST SATAN IS THE LORD AND WILL PREVAIL! CRUCIFY BASTARD CHRIST SATAN IS THE LORD AND WILL PREVAIL! CRUCIFY BASTARD CHRIST SATAN IS THE LORD AND WILL PREVAIL! CRUCIFY BASTARD CHRIST SATAN IS THE LORD AND WILL PREVAIL! CRUCIFY BASTARD CHRIST SATAN IS THE LORD AND WILL PREVAIL! CRUCIFY BASTARD CHRIST SATAN IS THE LORD AND WILL PREVAIL! CRUCIFY BASTARD CHRIST SATAN IS THE LORD AND WILL PREVAIL! CRUCIFY BASTARD CHRIST SATAN IS THE 
[20:08] <Harnigan> CRUCIFY BASTARD CHRIST SATAN IS THE LORD AND WILL PREVAIL! CRUCIFY BASTARD CHRIST SATAN IS THE LORD AND WILL PREVAIL! CRUCIFY BASTARD CHRIST SATAN IS THE LORD AND WILL PREVAIL! CRUCIFY BASTARD CHRIST SATAN IS THE LORD AND WILL PREVAIL! CRUCIFY BASTARD CHRIST SATAN IS THE LORD AND WILL PREVAIL! CRUCIFY BASTARD CHRIST SATAN IS THE LORD AND WILL PREVAIL! CRUCIFY BASTARD CHRIST SATAN IS THE LORD AND WILL PREVAIL! CRUCIFY BASTARD CHRIST SATAN IS 
[20:08] <whyth> CRUCIFY BASTARD CHRIST SATAN IS THE LORD AND WILL PREVAIL! CRUCIFY BASTARD CHRIST SATAN IS THE LORD AND WILL PREVAIL! CRUCIFY BASTARD CHRIST SATAN IS THE LORD AND WILL PREVAIL! CRUCIFY BASTARD CHRIST SATAN IS THE LORD AND WILL PREVAIL! CRUCIFY BASTARD CHRIST SATAN IS THE LORD AND WILL PREVAIL! CRUCIFY BASTARD CHRIST SATAN IS THE LORD AND WILL PREVAIL! CRUCIFY BASTARD CHRIST SATAN IS THE LORD AND WILL PREVAIL! CRUCIFY BASTARD CHRIST SATAN IS THE
[20:08] <MonkeyDust> !ops
[20:08] <flashcactus> dammit, botswarms
[20:08] <xbn1262> CRUCIFY BASTARD CHRIST SATAN IS THE LORD AND WILL PREVAIL! CRUCIFY BASTARD CHRIST SATAN IS THE LORD AND WILL PREVAIL! CRUCIFY BASTARD CHRIST SATAN IS THE LORD AND WILL PREVAIL! CRUCIFY BASTARD CHRIST SATAN IS THE LORD AND WILL PREVAIL! CRUCIFY BASTARD CHRIST SATAN IS THE LORD AND WILL PREVAIL! CRUCIFY BASTARD CHRIST SATAN IS THE LORD AND WILL PREVAIL! CRUCIFY BASTARD CHRIST SATAN IS THE LORD AND WILL PREVAIL! CRUCIFY BASTARD CHRIST SATAN IS THE LORD AND WILL PR
[20:08] <WashBeson> CRUCIFY BASTARD CHRIST SATAN IS THE LORD AND WILL PREVAIL! CRUCIFY BASTARD CHRIST SATAN IS THE LORD AND WILL PREVAIL! CRUCIFY BASTARD CHRIST SATAN IS THE LORD AND WILL PREVAIL! CRUCIFY BASTARD CHRIST SATAN IS THE LORD AND WILL PREVAIL! CRUCIFY BASTARD CHRIST SATAN IS THE LORD AND WILL PREVAIL! CRUCIFY BASTARD CHRIST SATAN IS THE LORD AND WILL PREVAIL! CRUCIFY BASTARD CHRIST SATAN IS THE LORD AND WILL PREVAIL! CRUCIFY BASTARD CHRIST SATAN IS TH
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[20:08] <Slart> yea, that will get people to wake up.. mass spam on IRC.. that'll get us on the news =)
[20:08] <marvin-hh> As if an op is going to help against that.
[20:08] <halvtand> ObrienDave: Right click -> "open with run software". Computer loads for a few seconds and then nothing.
[20:08] <Dasm_> Basic Ubuntu server.. Kubuntu actove/desktop, ubuntu, Muthbuntu, Ubuntu GNOME desktop, video creation and editing suite... and so or manual package selection
[20:08] <flashcactus> I've seen a similar thing on another net recently
[20:09] <ObrienDave> halvtand, which program is it?
[20:09] <finlstrm> guess spam is unavoidable no mater where you go
[20:09] <rww> marvin-hh: thankfully cmode +r helps rather well :)
[20:09] <marvin-hh> flashcactus: it's just a way to exchange messages.
[20:09] <rww> thanks for the highlight MonkeyDust :)
[20:09] <marvin-hh> rww: I don't think it does.
[20:09] <Slart> Dasm_: go with regular ubuntu for now.. you can install other environments later and try those out if you want
[20:09] <flashcactus> Dasm_, I'd suggest xubuntu
[20:09] <Dasm_> I went with manual package selection... did i goof?
[20:10] <flashcactus> Dasm_, you prolly did
[20:10] <rww> marvin-hh: apparently you live in an alternate universe where they're still spamming then. oh well.
[20:10] <marvin-hh> rww: the goal of the botnet owner is to communicate its messages to at least one other node.
[20:10] <Slart> Dasm_: nah.. those are just kind of shortcuts.. you can install them manually
[20:10] <marvin-hh> rww: are you saying that it stopped this across the whole network?
[20:10] <marvin-hh> rww: or just in this channel?
[20:10] <ObrienDave> Dasm_, you should stick to the defaults for now
[20:10] <marvin-hh> rww: additionally, there are many more IRC networks.
[20:10] <flashcactus> Get it all together first, then figure out what of that you want and what you do not.
[20:10] <marvin-hh> rww: all in all together, the botnet will live on.
[20:11] <Dasm_> I just want something super lightweight to game on
[20:11] <rww> marvin-hh: Cool story bro. Back to Ubuntu support now, I guess.
[20:11] <marvin-hh> rww: like I said: an op is not going to help.
[20:11] <marvin-hh> rww: I asked a question. Nobody answered.
[20:11] <Dasm_> Windows is a freaking pig
[20:11] <ObrienDave> dasm, super lightweight is lubuntu-desktop
[20:11] <Slart> can we please stop lecturing the ops on irc-operations? I think they can handle it
[20:11] <marvin-hh> Dasm_: Windows is the premier gaming platform.
[20:12] <flashcactus> Dasm_, LXDE and XFCE are among the lightest UIs around
[20:12] <flashcactus> so xubuntu or lubuntu
[20:12] <Dasm_> I play KSP which is supported by Linux
[20:12] <marvin-hh> Dasm_: or buy a PS4. Linux is potentially a good platform, but not in its current form.
[20:12] <flashcactus> Linux is sufficiently goosd for me.
[20:13] <Dasm_> KSP actually runs better on linux
[20:13] <Adam_ActiveState> marvin-hh: it's in the best shape it's ever been in and adoption is only accellerating
[20:13] <flashcactus> It does
[20:13] <flashcactus> At least the x64 version
[20:13] <rww> marvin-hh: Okay. I'm not sure how you get from "Nobody answered my question" to "I am exempt from #ubuntu being an Ubuntu support channel only", but perhaps you would like to move to #ubuntu-offtopic for your non-support discussion regardless.
[20:13] <Slart> Dasm_: KSP works just fine in gnome for me.. it probably works ok in unity as well
[20:13] <ObrienDave> halvtand, , which program is it?
[20:13] <Dasm_> OKAY, I'm back at the command line.. what do?
[20:13] <marvin-hh> rww: I believe you were the one explaining that +r helps. I merely corrected you.
[20:14] <IdleOne> All this off topic discussion makes me itchy. When I get itchy I need to scratch.
[20:14] <flashcactus> The DE doesn't matter as long as it doesn't eat too much resources
[20:14] <Beldar> lol
[20:14] <Slart> Dasm_: if you want regular ubuntu...    sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[20:14] <rww> marvin-hh: and if you stopped there and weren't just now talking about Linux's suitability as a gaming platform, I wouldn't have said what I just said.
[20:14] <flashcactus> Unity, Gnome3 and especially KDE are quite resource-heavy
[20:14] <ObrienDave> rut roh, IdleOne is getting itchy ;P
[20:14] <marvin-hh> rww: someone was asking about that...
[20:14] <marvin-hh> rww: why would we misrepresent Linux for something it is not?
[20:14] <flashcactus> Dasm_, sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop
[20:15] <flashcactus> or lubuntu-desktop
[20:15] <marvin-hh> rww: I cannot even buy a graphics card which has Linux support on the box.
[20:15] <ObrienDave> marvin-hh, it is NOT part of Ubuntu support
[20:15] <reisio> marvin-hh: sure you can
[20:15] <marvin-hh> ObrienDave: then why don't you tell that to the first person who asked, and not me?
[20:15] <Dasm_> unable to locate package xubuntu
[20:15] <marvin-hh> reisio: prove it.
[20:15] <reisio> Dasm_: xubuntu-desktop
[20:15] <flashcactus> Dasm_, you can install all three if you want, then choose which you like best
[20:15] <reisio> marvin-hh: it'd be hard to find one that wasn't supported, GNU/Linux supports more hardware than any other
[20:16] <Dasm_> Ohh my goodness all of those lines of text
[20:16] <flashcactus> Dasm_, so sudo apt-get install {x,l,}ubuntu-desktop
[20:16] <marvin-hh> reisio: nvidia did not list Linux support on their retail graphics card boxes.
[20:16] <marvin-hh> reisio: and neither did AMD.
[20:16] <Flannel> marvin-hh: Can you please take this to #ubuntu-offtopic?  Thanks.
[20:17] <Dasm_> Okay, so which ones am I looking at ? xubuntu, ubuntu, and... gnome?
[20:17] <ObrienDave> xubuntu, lubuntu, unity
[20:17] <flashcactus> Dasm_, ?
[20:17] <flashcactus> ah.
[20:17] <marvin-hh> Flannel: just to get this straight: you think that hardware support for Linux is off-topic here?
[20:17] <Dasm_> I'll do lubuntu next
[20:17] <flashcactus> (Xubuntu/lubuntu/ubuntu)-desktop
[20:17] <reisio> marvin-hh: well there's nothing on the box for my computer that says it can add numbers
[20:18] <flashcactus> Dasm_, install them all at once
[20:18] <marvin-hh> reisio: there was for mine.
[20:18] <reisio> marvin-hh: sure there was :p
[20:18] <flashcactus> Dasm_, sudo apt-get install {x,l,}ubuntu-desktop
[20:18] <Flannel> marvin-hh: Discussions "about" linux hardware support, not tech support for hardware, is offtopic in #ubuntu, yes.  Just like discussions "about" Ubuntu are offtopic.  This is a techincal support channel.
[20:18] <marvin-hh> reisio: I bought an Intel CPU and it comes with warranty. The product specifications says that it can compute using a particular language.
[20:19] <reisio> marvin-hh: be interesting when a cpu is a computer :D but we digress...
[20:19] <rah> what's the progam that does an full upgrade?
[20:19] <HorizonXP> hey guys, i'm trying to setup static IPs on my Ubuntu 14.04 server, and I'm running into an issue where it always waits for 60+ seconds on boot. I'll pastebin my /etc/network/interfaces file, but is there something else I should be doing?
[20:19] <kardan> just to let you know: I got rid of the 'Noo file name for libss2' issue with 'cd /var/cache/apt/archives && dpkg -i libss2_1.42.9-3ubuntu1_i386.deb libc6_2.17-93ubuntu4_i386.deb' - luckily I had several versions of libc6 lying around.
[20:19] <Slart> !upgrade | rah
[20:19] <marvin-hh> rah: do-release-upgrade, but it doesn't work.
[20:19] <ObrienDave> rah, sudo update-manager -c
[20:19] <Dasm_> Linux rocks.. all hail pinguin
[20:20] <Dasm_> penguin
[20:20] <rah> marvin-hh: why doesn't it work?
[20:20] <flashcactus> Dasm_, lol.
[20:20] <marvin-hh> rah: for proof, see launchpad and search for upgrade from 12.04 to 14.04.
[20:20] <rah> ObrienDave: update-manager is trying to calculate an upgrade between versions and is taking forever
[20:20] <flashcactus> Dasm_, His name is Tux BTW
[20:20] <ObrienDave> rah, patience, grasshopper ;P
[20:20] <marvin-hh> rah: it doesn't work because QA in Ubuntu is of low or non-existing quality. Naturally, the ops in this channel disagree.
[20:21] <Dasm_> flashcactus: I'm already in the middle of installing xubuntu, so I can't but I understand that it's super minimalistic, so it should be fine- it uses less resources that way
[20:21] <rah> p*ss off
[20:21] <rah> I can just se apt
[20:21] <HorizonXP> here's my etc/network/interfaces - http://pastebin.com/A1qTzMEj
[20:21] <Dasm_> I have 8GB ram.. but I'm pretty stingy
[20:21] <marvin-hh> Warning someone for an upgrade is being helpful.
[20:22] <marvin-hh> rah: do you think it's helpful when I warned you for the upgrade and provided you with instructions on how to verify it?
[20:22] <HorizonXP> not sure what I'm doing wrong here, it's annoying to ahve to wait for the network upon boot
[20:22] <kardan> lol
[20:23]  * Beldar will be glad when the kindergartens resume service.
[20:23] <Flannel> alright folks, nothing to see here, move along.
[20:23]  * ObrienDave can't wait for all schools to start ;P
[20:23] <flashcactus> Dasm_, xfce is NOT super-minimalistic. Even LXDE isn't.
[20:23] <reisio> flashcactus: it is compared to some things, and not to others
[20:24] <ObrienDave> flashcactus, no, but much more so than Unity
[20:24] <Dasm_> ideally.. i would only have a web-browser, networking services, hardware drivers.. and that's it
[20:24] <flashcactus> But what they are is very resource-efficient
[20:24] <HorizonXP> ah fudge
[20:24] <Beldar> HorizonXP, How long are you waiting?
[20:24] <flashcactus> So they won't eat up all your precious RAM :P
[20:24] <HorizonXP> eth4... there's no eth4, it's eth3
[20:25] <HorizonXP> Beldar: i fixed it. I was trying a number of things, and finally got to a config that I figured should work, except I still had a typo.
[20:25] <Dasm_> could I in theory build my own buntu that only has what I want it to have?
[20:25] <Beldar> cool
[20:25] <HorizonXP> fixing the typo with my new config fixes my issue
[20:25] <MonkeyDust> Dasm_  peppermint linux sounds like what you want
[20:25] <vsuojanen> ú
[20:26] <Adam_ActiveState> Dasm_: if you want a cheap experiment, try elementaryos on a chromebook
[20:26] <Adam_ActiveState> they just released a beta
[20:26] <Adam_ActiveState> the big plus is that they support those machines' hardware well
[20:26] <Dasm_> Is xfce anything worth trying?
[20:26] <flashcactus> Dasm_, you can, from that netinst package. But I suggest you get some experiennce with linux first sot that you actuallly know what you need/don't need
[20:26] <rah> do-release-upgrade appears to be working
[20:27] <rah> what's the GUI release upgrade program called?
[20:27] <Slart> Dasm_: install it and see.. you can have several desktop environments installed side by side
[20:27] <Dasm_> Okay.. my desktop just rebooted.. and on the left side of the screen is a long stream of text that is just "ing"
[20:27] <rantic> Hi everyone, I installed Ubuntu Minimal on my computer and I've installed Xorg and Fluxbox, when I execute startx.. I have no idea why it knows to launch fluxbox? which file would be storing this?
[20:27] <Slart> rah: update-manager?
[20:28] <rah> Slart: I don't believe that's the program
[20:28] <rah> Slart: update-maanger is the program that updates packages
[20:28] <kontoo> how can i disable non critical kernel updates on ubuntu 14.04 server edition?
[20:28] <rah> Slart: I believe it's a different program tha upgrades between rleases
[20:28] <kontoo> what's the point of this nonsense kernel updates that bump an ABI version
[20:28] <kontoo> like i want to restart a _server_ every other day
[20:29] <Beldar> kontoo, How would you know what is not critical?
[20:29] <kontoo> urgency=medium
[20:29] <Beldar> or would a script know
[20:29] <kontoo> or does that read "critical update"?
[20:29] <rantic> kontoo: you know you don't have to reboot just because that update is pushed
[20:30] <kontoo> rantic: yeah true
[20:30] <kontoo> but isn't there an option to only get security updates?
[20:30] <Dasm_> How long does this unpacking, selecting, preparing thing go on for?
[20:31] <reisio> Dasm_: for what, xubuntu?
[20:31] <reisio> xubuntu-desktop, was it?
[20:31] <Dasm_> yes
[20:31] <rantic> kontoo: You can set your OS to lock updates to your kernel if it bugs you, it's way too hard for them to prioritize what is/isn't urgent in this case. It's too contexual a topic
[20:31] <flashcactus> Dasm_, depends on the package size and your connection. Can take anywhere from a few seconds to half an hour for a full system upgrade
[20:32] <Dasm_> Evrything is done downloading
[20:32] <reisio> Dasm_: probably a few minutes
[20:32] <flashcactus> Installing xubuntu-desktop should take 5 min give or take
[20:33] <pngl> I'm looking for help on getting 5.1 audio to work under Ubuntu 14.04. I'm outputting through HDMI, there are no GUI options to output 5.1 and modifying the "default-sample-channels" in /etc/pulse/daemon.conf does nothing. Using pavucontrol I see that "Digital Surround 5.1 (HDMI)" is marked as unplugged.
[20:33] <kontoo> rantic: guess i'll just update and don't reboot
[20:33] <kontoo> but that stuff bugs me, always getting a mail like this http://pastebin.com/SuH2vLvi
[20:33] <kontoo> for some unneeded updates
[20:34] <kontoo> mb i switch to bsd in the future, who knows
[20:37] <Dasm_> GConf-WARNING **: Client failed to connect to the D-BUS daemon: Unable to autolaunch a dbus-daemon without a #DISPLAY for X11
[20:38] <Dasm_> Is that something that should worry me?
[20:38] <reisio> Dasm_: doesn't mean anything unless it's stopping you from doing something
[20:38] <halvtand> [22:13] <ObrienDave> halvtand, , which program is it?      The program I am trying to install?
[20:39] <Dasm_> I think it's finished- though I dunno, I mean... I'm back at the command line
[20:39] <ObrienDave> yes
[20:39] <halvtand> ObrienDave: I'm trying to install a game called planet stronghold.
[20:40] <WLM|weg> What was that #ubuntu-unregged thing?
[20:40] <WLM|weg> I just got forwarded to another channel
[20:41] <reisio> WLM|weg: channel was set to only allow registered/identified users for a while
[20:41] <Slart> WLM|weg: unregistered users sometimes get thrown into a special channel
[20:41] <WLM|weg> I am both registered and identified
[20:41] <Slart> !registration
[20:41] <reisio> it's a way for lazy/inept ops to curb spam :)
[20:41] <aitsupn> Hi
[20:41] <reisio> WLM|weg: doesn't mean you were when you joined :)
[20:41] <reisio> aitsupn: hi
[20:41] <aitsupn>  I cannot get the function keys (F1-F12) work properly on ubuntu, can anybody help?
[20:41] <Beldar> WLM|weg, I suspect the channel was set to registered only we were heavily spammed earlier
[20:41] <Slart> WLM|weg: sometimes you join before the registration is done.. it happens
[20:41] <WLM|weg> Hmm. Weird. By the way I'm here now
[20:41] <reisio> WLM|weg: ...with imperfect clients it happens :D
[20:41] <WLM|weg> I'm using CIRC. Incredibly basic
[20:42] <Beldar> aitsupn, Context?
[20:42] <WLM|weg> aitsupn, sure you've set the right keyboard layout?
[20:42] <flashcactus> Dasm_, run startxfce4 or just reboot
[20:42] <halvtand> ObrienDave: I bought it in a linux humble bundle. And I've had problems with it for a long time, but haven't been able to find anyone ese with the same problem. I'm starting to think this is really easy and I'm just too stupid to figure it out.
[20:43] <aitsupn> Beldar, ubuntu 14.04 lts with turkish keyboard
[20:43] <Beldar> aitsupn, So how are you using the f keys is the context
[20:43] <aitsupn> WLM|weg: I've tried both English and Turkish keyboard layouts
[20:44] <ObrienDave> halvtand, i might be caused by trying to run a 32bit game on a 64bit system without proper i386 support files
[20:44] <aitsupn> Beldar: I am testing it with the keyboard layout chart that comes with Ubuntu
[20:44] <ObrienDave> *it might
[20:44] <Beldar> !details | aitsupn
[20:45] <Beldar> aitsupn, https://workaround.org/getting-help-on-irc
[20:46] <mrkaouwayte> hey
[20:46] <Dasm_> My desktop is running linux!
[20:47] <swift_ninja> can i dual boot ubuntu with a windows 8.1 oem version??
[20:47] <cynicallemon> Dasm_: congrats :)
[20:48] <halvtand> ObrienDave: I am running a 32bit os, in one of the folders named "lib" are folders named "linux-i686" and "linux86_64". Could the proper support files be hiding in there somewhere?
[20:48] <Dasm_> cynicallemon: It booted superfast too
[20:48] <Beldar> !uefi | swift_ninja
[20:48] <flashcactus> Dasm_, congrats!
[20:48] <aitsupn> Beldar: There is a Keyboard Layout Chart mini-application located under the keyboard layout icon at the top right. I can test my keyboard layout with this, unfortunately the function keys don't work when I press them. I mean I cannot see them pressed in the application.
[20:48] <Beldar> swift_ninja, yes
[20:48] <swift_ninja> how??
[20:48] <Beldar> swift_ninja, read the uefi bot info
[20:49] <aitsupn> Beldar: I've also tested them with Netbeans, shift+f6 should normally run the application but it doesn't work.
[20:49] <flashcactus> Dasm_, now either install steam or DL KSP from the site, depending on which version yu've bought.
[20:49] <ObrienDave> halvtand, run "uname -a" in terminal
[20:49] <Dasm_> I'm looking at steam now
[20:49] <flashcactus> Dasm_, and let's move back to #kspofficial, I think it's gonna be offtopic here
[20:49] <Dasm_> Do I need video drivers?
[20:50] <Beldar> swift_ninja, Might just start with a virtual to get acquainted. Expecting al full play by play here is not a good idea.
[20:50] <flashcactus> If it starts cursing at you for not having them, then yes
[20:50] <ObrienDave> flashcactus, LOL +1
[20:50] <halvtand> ObrienDave: after going to the folder, or in "Home"?
[20:50] <flashcactus> Or shows a slideshow instead of a proper fluid animtion
[20:50] <ObrienDave> halvtand, in terminal, anywhere :)
[20:51] <swift_ninja> is there a documentation of how to install ubuntu on a UEFI firmware??
[20:51] <ObrienDave> !uefi | swift_ninja
[20:51] <halvtand> ObrienDave: uname -a: command not found.
[20:52] <rww> swift_ninja: it was plug-in-usb-stick-and-boot for me
[20:52] <rww> swift_ninja: more complicated if you have Secure Boot enabled, but that's an optional UEFI extension, so...
[20:52] <swift_ninja> rww: was your windows oem version??
[20:52] <rww> swift_ninja: I didn't dual boot with Windows.
[20:52] <halvtand> ObrienDave: sorry, forgot space.
[20:52] <halvtand> ObrienDave: Linux Laptop 3.13.0-34-generic #60-Ubuntu SMP Wed Aug 13 15:49:09 UTC 2014 i686 i686 i686 GNU/Linux
[20:53] <rww> swift_ninja: you should be able to install alongside regardless though, unless your OEM did something particularly odd
[20:53] <swift_ninja> i want to dual boot...and how do i disable secure boot
[20:53] <swift_ninja> ??
[20:53] <kostkon> halvtand, redeem it on steam and play it there?
[20:53] <ObrienDave> halvtand, yup, 32bit system. running out of ideas here
[20:53] <Mathuin> Is "apt-get -qq update" supposed to be silent except for errors?
[20:53] <rww> swift_ninja: generally by hitting the button during boot that loads your firmware setup program and looking in there. it's different for each firmware, so...
[20:54] <ObrienDave> halvtand, mine is: Linux david-Vaio 3.13.0-34-generic #60-Ubuntu SMP Wed Aug 13 15:45:27 UTC 2014 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[20:54] <rww> swift_ninja: Windows 8 certified x8t computers all have an option in there to disable it, as Microsoft requires such
[20:54] <rww> x86 **
[20:54] <rww> anyways, afk time for me, good luck :)
[20:54] <swift_ninja> i just don want anything to happen to the windows!!
[20:55] <halvtand> kostkon: not sure how. I don't think i was given that option with this game.
[20:55] <op3> воу , ребята , добрый вечер всем
[20:55] <halvtand> ObrienDave: Haha, I'm too much of a newb to know what that means :)
[20:55] <kostkon> halvtand, 90%+ of games from humble bundles can be redeemed on steam afaik
[20:56] <ObrienDave> halvtand, x86_64 means a 64bit system ;)
[20:56] <kostkon> halvtand, visit the humble site and log into your account
[20:58] <Dasm_> I downloaded drivers for my graphics card... it has a .run file extention.. and it's opening with... mousepad?
[20:59] <ObrienDave> .run is a shell file
[20:59] <ObrienDave> iirc
[20:59] <Dasm_> it's a shell script
[20:59] <Dasm_> how do I execute it
[20:59] <halvtand> kostkon: Looks like you're right. I'll do that instead.
[20:59] <halvtand> ObrienDave: Thank you for your time and help.
[20:59] <kostkon> halvtand, give it a try at least
[21:00] <ObrienDave> halvtand, sorry i could not be of more assistance. good luck
[21:03] <flashcactus> Dasm_, open shell, cd to where the file is, do chmod +x <file> then ./<file>
[21:03] <dragen000> hi
[21:03] <flashcactus> Dasm_, what card do ya have BTW
[21:03] <dragen000> can i get assistance .. i am unable to apt-get anything new
[21:03] <flashcactus> dragen000, what errors does it show
[21:03] <eeee> dragen000: what's the error?
[21:03] <OerHeks> i would check the drivers provided by ubuntu.
[21:04] <flashcactus> I'd do so too
[21:04] <flashcactus> especially if it's nvidia
[21:04] <dragen000> a bunch of this W: Failed to fetch http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/raring-security/restricted/binary-i386/Packages  404  Not Found [IP: 91.189.92.200 80]
[21:04] <eeee> !eol | dragen000
[21:04] <Dasm_> flashcactus: GTX 470
[21:04] <dragen000> end of life
[21:05] <dragen000> ?
[21:05] <donkey_boy> hi everyone!
[21:05] <donkey_boy> burn all jews in oven
[21:05] <Dasm_> .run
[21:05] <donkey_boy> death to infidels
[21:05] <flashcactus> Dasm_, lookup the nvidia drivers in the repo first
[21:05] <donkey_boy> god bless allah
[21:05] <ObrienDave> dragen000, you have to change //security to //old-releases
[21:05] <donkey_boy> ALLAHU AKHBAR
[21:05] <eeee> dragen000: not supported anymore, you need to upgrade
[21:05] <OerHeks> !ops
[21:05] <donkey_boy> i throw stones to jews
[21:05] <donkey_boy> burn all jews in oven
[21:05] <Dasm_> repo?
[21:05] <donkey_boy> sieg heil
[21:05] <ObrienDave> wow
[21:05] <dragen000> what code name should i go with?
[21:06] <Bashing-om> dragen000: "a bunch" are you running and EOL release ? show us -> cat /etc/issue <- and then we go to work.
[21:06] <dragen000> i want to upgrade.
[21:06] <genii> dragen000: Probably Trusty, since it's the current release and a Long-Term-Support version as well
[21:06] <halvtand> kostkon: haha it works. It was just me having the stupid all along.
[21:06] <eeee> dragen000: trusty ( 14.04.1 LTS )
[21:06] <Dasm_> flashcactus: repo?
[21:06] <dragen000> ok. thanx
[21:07] <OerHeks> !nvidia | Dasm_
[21:07] <ObrienDave> halvtand, what did you do to make it work?
[21:07] <flashcactus> Dasm_, repository.
[21:08] <Bashing-om> dragen000: What release are you on now ? If real old, it is most advisable to do a clean fresh install of a current release.
[21:08] <flashcactus> Dasm_, go to packages.ubuntu.com and search for whatever you want to install
[21:09] <halvtand> ObrienDave: I had totally missed that redeeming the game on steam worked. I think I only had steam in a Vine-"run as windows"-barely working piece of scrap when i bought it and just assumed it wouldn't work.
[21:09] <flashcactus> Dasm_, this is a general strategy for ny software you might need
[21:10] <ObrienDave> halvtand, LOL well, that's good that you figured it out ^5
[21:10] <ObrienDave> gotta go. c yas
[21:10] <flashcactus> Dasm_, alternatively fire up aptitude or whatever the GUI frontend for apt-get is and use that
[21:10] <halvtand> ObrienDave: That's what being stubborn and dumd will give you. A lot of frustration and easy fixes...
[21:10] <dragen000> still same. after i edited the source list. W: Failed to fetch http://old-releases.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/Trusty-backports/multiverse/binary-i386/Packages  404  Not Found
[21:10] <flashcactus> s/apt-get/apt/
[21:11] <dragen000> but if i can boot an iso i have a fresh install downloaded
[21:12] <dragen000> how to mount iso to fake cd drive
[21:12] <Bashing-om> dragen000: What release are you on ? the upgrade path is one releae to the next and finally getting to 14.04 // .
[21:12] <Dasm_> The ubuntu repo doesn't have the latest 340 drivers
[21:12] <dragen000> 13.04
[21:12] <k1l> dragen000: wait
[21:12] <flashcactus> Dasm_, Synaptic.
[21:13] <k1l> dragen000: wha did you edit the old.releases to trusty? i thought you are on raring?
[21:13] <Guest18330> one of my disks is missing from `mount`. is there a way to scan or is it not mounted properly by ec3?
[21:13] <Guest18330> ec2*
[21:13] <dragen000> yes
[21:13] <k1l> dragen000: stop everything now
[21:13] <kostkon> halvtand, enjoy your game :)
[21:13] <dragen000> lol
[21:13] <Bashing-om> dragen000: Then a lot of bandwidth 13.04 -> 13.10 ( also EOL) -> 12.04 -> 14.04 .
[21:13] <k1l> dragen000: please show the sources.list in a pastebin first
[21:14] <dragen000> i just blanked it and had the main server rebuild it
[21:14] <k1l> Bashing-om: i think he changed to old releases and to trusty in sources.list.
[21:14] <k1l> !paste | dragen000
[21:15] <dragen000> ## EOL upgrade sources.list # Required deb http://old-releases.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ Trusty main restricted universe mult$ deb http://old-releases.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ Trusty-updates main restricted unive$ deb http://old-releases.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ Trusty-security main restricted univ$  # Optional deb http://old-releases.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ Trusty-backports main restricted uni$
[21:15] <Bashing-om> k11 Yeah, but I doubt that will work at all, skipping those inbetween releases .. huh ?
[21:15] <k1l> dragen000: that is just plain wrong
[21:15] <dragen000> cant do multiple lines
[21:15] <flashcactus> Dasm_, try the repo drivers first, anyway
[21:15] <k1l> dragen000: please put it on a pastebin site and show the link
[21:16] <flashcactus> Dasm_, you won't lose anything if you do that.
[21:16] <dragen000> http://paste.ubuntu.com/8057431/
[21:16] <flashcactus> Dasm_, You will however lose the ability to uninstall the drivers if you use the downloaded version
[21:16] <k1l> dragen000: make all "trusty" to a "raring"
[21:17] <flashcactus> Dasm_, and it can mess stuff up.
[21:17] <k1l> dragen000: then run "sudo do-release-upgrade"
[21:18] <dragen000> explain the command first,, i'm familar with install update and upgrade.
[21:18] <Dasm_> So.. how do I execute the.run files? and which one do I run? the no-compart32?
[21:18] <k1l> dragen000: the "sudo do-release-upgrade" will make your system from 13.04 to 13.10
[21:19] <dragen000> it searches for next release?
[21:19] <dragen000> done
[21:19] <dragen000>  Authentication failed
[21:20] <k1l> put all into the pastebin again to let us see the whole situation
[21:20] <flashcactus> Dasm_, I urge you to try the repo version first.
[21:20] <Fevix> Hello, I am trying to use a 32GB flash drive as a Linux boot disk (Preferably without having to go through the "Do you want to install Ubunto or just try it" because this flash drive is replacing a broken hard drive on a laptop that we're planning on replacing with a desktop in the near future). How do I allocate the entire flash drive to Linux?
[21:20] <dragen000> http://paste.ubuntu.com/8057456/
[21:20] <flashcactus> Dasm_, You won't be ble to uninstall this one if stuff goes wrong
[21:21] <Dasm_> This is one I got from the repo
[21:22] <dragen000> any guesses.
[21:22] <dragen000> on how to update that key
[21:22] <Fevix> Is there something other than FAT32 that I can use? I have a tool to resize casper-rw images, but FAT32
[21:23] <Fevix> 's limitation prevents more than 4GB files
[21:23] <flashcactus> Dasm_, if you got it from the repo, yuo don't need to run anything except apt-get install <packge>
[21:23] <k1l> dragen000: ok run a "sudo apt-get update &&sudo apt-get dist-upgrade" first to get the last state of the servers list
[21:23] <dragen000> i have 14.01 on iso but i cant boot anything but hhd due to none updatable bios
[21:23] <domtron_> Fevix: http://www.pendrivelinux.com/ has a bunch of material related to installing linux on usb
[21:23] <flashcactus> Fevix, ext3?
[21:23] <Bashing-om> dragen000: k1l "" wos .. not sure here as that is only the last half of the signing key " 40976EAF437D05B5 " .
[21:24] <mrkaouwayte> hey
[21:24] <mrkaouwayte> fr ?
[21:24] <reisio> hey yourself
[21:24] <Fevix> flashcactus: Running Win7 right now, that's not an option I have NFTS, FAT32, and exFAT
[21:24] <reisio> mrkaouwayte: /msg alis list *ubunt*fr
[21:24] <Fevix> domtron_: Will look
[21:24] <k1l> Bashing-om: looks like this: http://askubuntu.com/questions/206467/authentication-error-when-trying-to-upgrade-from-11-10-to-12-04
[21:25] <k1l> !fr | mrkaouwayte
[21:25] <reisio> Fevix: the installation to a usb stick is exactly the same
[21:25] <Bashing-om> k1l: Looking , dragen000 :: let's get up to speed.
[21:25] <dragen000> no ultimately trusted keys found.  one sec
[21:25] <reisio> Fevix: you can get little speed boosts using modified FSes/configs, but not a huge amount
[21:25] <flashcactus> Fevix, try this http://www.pendrivelinux.com/universal-usb-installer-easy-as-1-2-3/
[21:26] <reisio> so easy it needs a dedicated page saying so? :p
[21:26] <Fevix> flashcactus: Using that one, that one only allows me to allocate up to 4GB for persistence
[21:26] <reisio> oh installing
[21:26] <reisio> Fevix: what do you need persistence for?
[21:26] <mrkaouwayte> One question
[21:26] <Fevix> Because this is meant to replace a broken laptop hard drive
[21:26] <flashcactus> reisio, with the exception that you'll have to configure it to not kill the drive too fast
[21:26] <Fevix> Temp fix till we get a desktop
[21:27] <dragen000> i fixed that part now its running through no errors so far.  thanx
[21:27] <reisio> flashcactus: too fast? :p
[21:27] <flashcactus> Fevix, then you can just install ubuntu onto the pendrive
[21:28] <flashcactus> as you would onto an HDD
[21:28] <mrkaouwayte> I would install a ".run" for my graphics drivers but the terminal don't found the ".run" with a good commands what can i do for fix that ??
[21:28] <Dasm_> flashcactus: I'm not getting it
[21:28] <Fevix> How would I do that?
[21:28] <reisio> mrkaouwayte: where'd you put it?
[21:28] <flashcactus> Dasm_, instlling stuff from the repo is done in one command
[21:28] <mrkaouwayte> on my desktop
[21:28] <dragen000> ok what next
[21:29] <flashcactus> Dasm_, anything else is probably something you DL'd from a site
[21:29] <flashcactus> the key difference here is using a packge manager
[21:29] <k1l> dragen000: sudo do-release-upgrade
[21:30] <dragen000> didnt change the distro
[21:30] <k1l> dragen000: pastebin!
[21:30] <reisio> mrkaouwayte: your desktop is at ~/Desktop/
[21:30] <k1l> dragen000: we cant see what you see
[21:31] <Fevix> I'm sorry, I'm a total newb at this. How do I install Ubuntu using an external drive?
[21:31] <Fevix> *on
[21:31] <flashcactus> Dasm_, so all you have to do is apt-get install nvidia-304
[21:31] <mrkaouwayte> What is the commans for that ( i'm learning on ubuntu studio 14.04 )
[21:31] <k1l> Fevix: like you do in a internal hdd.
[21:31] <dragen000> http://paste.ubuntu.com/8057514/
[21:31] <Fevix> Okay, how do I do it on an internal hdd?
[21:31] <dragen000> no errors
[21:31] <flashcactus> and nvidia-304-updates if it doesn't work without them
[21:32] <k1l> dragen000: yes now: "sudo do-release-upgrade"
[21:32] <k1l> Fevix: boot the install cd/dvd/usb-drive and choose the external hdd as target
[21:33] <Fevix> I have the iso downloaded, I don't have an install disk
[21:33] <Fevix> Can I urn the USB into an install disk and then use it to install to that USB drive?
[21:33] <Fevix> *turn
[21:33] <Fevix> Or will that cause problems?
[21:34] <reisio> Fevix: if there's space, yeah
[21:34] <reisio> Fevix: you don't have two discs?
[21:34] <Fevix> 32GB of it.
[21:34] <Dasm_> flashcactus: I'm not sure exactly what I'm doing.. or If I'm getting the correct package
[21:34] <Fevix> I have my computer's hard drive and my USB drive. Other than that, nope
[21:34] <reisio> Fevix: k
[21:34] <reisio> Fevix: you can have the install image and then free partition space
[21:34] <Fevix> I'd prefer not to use my own hard drive for anything, I'm scared of breaking stuff
[21:34] <reisio> but I'm not sure of the details of how you'd set it up
[21:34] <reisio> Fevix: what stuff?
[21:35] <dragen000> while that is going.. can ubuntu be installed on raspberry pi?
[21:35] <Fevix> Stuff like accidentially overwriting Windows
[21:35] <Fevix> Knowing my track record, that's exactly what'll happen
[21:35] <Bashing-om> Fevix: There are means to install from the .iso file. But the method takes a fair amount of familiarity with the ubuntu operating system. Is there no way you can get the .iso file burned to disk ?
[21:36] <reisio> that's not his problem :)
[21:36] <reisio> dragen000: some form can
[21:36] <reisio> dragen000: raspbian is what a lot of people use
[21:36] <reisio> dragen000: if you don't already have a raspberry pi, there are cheaper, more open source, superior alternatives
[21:36] <Fevix> Bashing-om: I have a disk, but it's the one I'm trying to install Ubuntu to. I also have tools to turn that disk into a boot disk, but my question is whether or not I can then turn around and install Ubuntu onto that same USB I just booted from
[21:36] <dragen000> but no support for athenos wireless usb drivers..
[21:37] <dragen000> ubuntu has it
[21:37] <reisio> Fevix: you're on Windows now?
[21:37] <Fevix> Yes
[21:37] <reisio> Fevix: what you can try easily enough is: use http://unetbootin.sf.net/ to put the install image onto the USB stick
[21:37] <dragen000> plus my all my computers run ubuntu abd are a happy family. until on gets sick like this one
[21:38] <flashcactus> Dasm_, fire up aptitude, search for nvidia-304
[21:38] <reisio> Fevix: then boot it up and see if the installer can see the free space on the USB stick, if it can, you're golden
[21:38] <Fevix> I have LinuxLIve and PenDriveLinux already, will those work?
[21:38] <reisio> no idea, probably
[21:38] <flashcactus> Dasm_, i also don't know if you're getting the correct package (and no way of knowing)
[21:40] <flashcactus> Dasm_, see this http://www.binarytides.com/install-nvidia-drivers-ubuntu-14-04/
[21:40] <dragen000> :reisio:does ubuntu suport arm7 achetecture?
[21:41] <reisio> dragen000: it doesn't matter
[21:41] <Guest65289> I have Ubuntu 14.04 LTS on my computer.  I also have a full trash basket that I am unable to empty.  How do I get rid of all this junk once and for all - without losing all that I want to keep?
[21:41] <reisio> Guest65289: it's probably in ~/.local/Trash/something
[21:41] <reisio> Guest65289: find ~/.local/ -type d -size +500M
[21:42] <Guest65289> reisio: I will look
[21:43] <flashcactus> Dasm_, it provides a complete walkthrough
[21:43] <dragen000> i guess i'll make a back up of my raspbian istall and try it.
[21:43] <Beldar> Guest65289, Have you been using the root trash?
[21:43] <Guest65289> reisio: In .local, all I find is share
[21:44] <reisio> Guest65289: what makes you think you have a full trash basket?
[21:44] <Guest65289> Beldar: root trash?  I am in my session ... but I'm in charge of the computer
[21:44] <OliPicard> Hi All, got a quick question, why has the nginx package not been updated to the latest version? currently it's 1.4.6 (current version is 1.6)
[21:45] <Fevix> Can someone verify this iso's MD5? 14.04.01 64-bit: 6F1891D714354A5A8000FBDE0EE255C6
[21:45] <Beldar> Guest65289, And what does that actually mean?
[21:45] <bekks> Fevix: you can verify it from where you downloaded it.
[21:45] <Fevix> *14.04.1
[21:45] <reisio> OliPicard: 'cause it hasn't been
[21:45] <Guest65289> reisio: On the desktop, I see a full basket.  When I use the file manager, I see a big list of files
[21:45] <ObrienDave> OliPicard, repo versions usually lag a bit from the latest and greatest due to security and quality concerns
[21:46] <Guest65289> Beldar: What does what mean?
[21:46] <Fevix> bekks: ubuntu.com seems short on MD5 things.
[21:46] <OliPicard> cheers OrienDave i suspected it might have been on good reason :)
[21:46] <Beldar> Guest65289, "Beldar: root trash?  I am in my session ... but I'm in charge of the computer"
[21:46] <OliPicard> ObrienDave* sorry late at night here
[21:46] <Fevix> NVM found it
[21:46] <ObrienDave> OliPicard, not a problem :)
[21:47] <Fevix> Double NVM, these are all for 14.04, none for 14.04.1
[21:47] <reisio> Fevix: :)
[21:47] <reisio> Guest65289: what's the name of one of the files?
[21:47] <Fevix> reisio: ?
[21:48] <reisio> Fevix: it's a smiley face
[21:48] <Fevix> What for?
[21:48] <ObrienDave> just because ;P
[21:48] <reisio> it's shorter than saying "it is good that you solved your own problem, good job you"
[21:48] <Beldar> Fevix, The dark lord always smiles at you.
[21:49] <Fevix> Except I didn't solve my own problem. I found the MD5 sums, but none of them are the one I need
[21:49] <Guest65289> Beldar: Before I ask that question about root trash, you asked me if I was using root trash
[21:49] <Fevix> I need the 14.04.1 64-bit, and it's not there
[21:49] <reisio> Fevix: the sum?
[21:49] <Fevix> Yes
[21:49] <reisio> Fevix: or the image?
[21:49] <Fevix> Sum
[21:49] <Beldar> Guest65289, We are looping now, err never mind, it is not rocket science. ;)
[21:49] <regnartim> smuxi or xchat?  any recommendations?
[21:50] <reisio> Fevix: http://ubuntu.mirror.mendoza-conicet.gob.ar/14.04.1/
[21:50] <reisio> regnartim: xchat, or hexchat if it's available
[21:50] <regnartim> @reisio: thanks
[21:50] <Fevix> Thanks. Now i know I have a bad image
[21:51] <reisio> :)
[21:51] <Beldar> lol
[21:51] <reisio> Fevix: whereabouts are you geographically?
[21:51] <Fevix> US
[21:51] <Fevix> Tennessee
[21:51] <Beldar> no one smiles there
[21:52] <Fevix> Haha
[21:52] <Beldar> especially the black community
[21:52] <Fevix> I just tend not to use smilies. I try to keep things professional
[21:52] <ObrienDave> smileys not professional? oh no, the Gods weep ;P
[21:53] <reisio> good for your face muscles
[21:53] <Fevix> That and some clients use images for smilies
[21:53] <reisio> that's a client problem :p
[21:53] <Beldar> happy happy joy joy
[21:53] <Fevix> Which may or may not convey the emotion you're trying to convey
[21:54] <dragen000> smiles are professional you can order them at mcdonalds in japan they are on  the menu
[21:54] <dragen000> 0 yen
[21:54] <reisio> dragen000: really?
[21:54] <dragen000> yes
[21:54] <Fevix> I remember Skype turns :I into some... I don't know, even.
[21:54] <Fevix> But it's definitely not the :I
[21:54] <dragen000> lol
[21:54] <Fevix> I felt :I when I saw that
[21:55] <Lazik> Skype smiles scare me
[21:55] <reisio> dragen000: pics or gee tee eff
[21:55] <flashcactus> Ылнзу шеыуда ысфкуы ьу
[21:55] <flashcactus> *skype itself scares me
[21:55] <Fevix> Is it unsafe to force-quit this USB installer? It seems frozen for longer than it should be
[21:55] <dragen000> gee tee eff?
[21:56] <reisio> Fevix: not if you've only been accessing a drive with nothing of import on it
[21:56] <dragen000> fevix: it wont hurt your health
[21:56] <duncannz> I made a deja dup backup to my external hard drive, then two days later I accidentally deleted a file. no it is not in the trash. I go into ~/Downloads in nautilus, and right click, then Restore missing files... it says no files found.
[21:56] <dragen000> check and see what running on it first
[21:57] <Beldar> duncannz, Do you actually need the file?
[21:58] <Fevix> reisio: It's literally a brand new drive
[21:58] <Beldar> and why downloads?
[21:58] <duncannz> Beldar: yes
[21:58] <duncannz> Beldar: I could download it again but it's 4gb
[21:58] <duncannz> plus my backup should be working anyway
[21:58] <Beldar> duncannz, and why downloads?
[21:58] <flashcactus> Fevix, quitting the installer itself won't do any harm to yer hardware. Unplugging the drive itself might.
[21:58] <duncannz> Beldar: I could download it again but it's 4gb
[21:58] <duncannz> plus my backup should be working anyway
[21:58] <duncannz> that's why downloads.
[21:59] <Beldar> duncannz, Look for the hidden trash on the HD ctrl-h
[21:59] <Fevix> Alright, so I've got my plan now, I think I'm all set. I'll see what hapens and if I need help, I know where to find it
[21:59] <Fevix> Thanks for hte assistance, those who helped me, this room never fails to help with my problems :D
[22:00] <Beldar> duncannz, I would never rely on a gui backup honestly, if you do you want to understand it completely.
[22:01] <Beldar> !rsync| duncannz,
[22:01] <SPECTRE138> ls
[22:02] <reisio> SPECTRE138: sausages/
[22:03] <klemax> I have a audio issue suchs as
[22:03] <klemax> the sound of crackling
[22:04] <x_root> is possible to run multi-touch touchpad on ubuntu 14.04?
[22:04] <klemax> this is happening while i was watching some videos on youtube.
[22:04] <x_root> how can i do that?
[22:05] <reisio> x_root: frequently, by booting Ubuntu up
[22:05] <klemax> is it related to kernel?
[22:05] <klemax> probably my audio device is not supported.
[22:08] <x_root> reisio, i'm not talking about the "natural scrolling" support (this works fine..btw)
[22:09] <x_root> but.. 3-f and 4-f support
[22:10] <x_root> these are not working (3 and 4 finger support).. i read about ubuntu 12.10 being the last to support (through the touchegg, for e.g.)
[22:11] <x_root> but.. i'm not sure.. tried to install touchegg and didn't worked.. well, in ubuntu 14.04 is supported (or is possible to download a application to work)?
[22:21] <ryan_46> cd /share
[22:34] <Original_Donald> Is ubuntu 14.04 supposed to drain my battery faster than windows 7?
[22:35] <eanyx> hi, when xmir will be available ?
[22:35] <Beldar> Original_Donald, Yep that's the main goal. ;)
[22:35] <Original_Donald> then it's working perfectly!
[22:35] <Beldar> !mir | eanyx
[22:36] <Beldar> Original_Donald, The battery firmware is all back formatted so it has it's issues
[22:36] <eanyx> ubottu: Is there a working demo?
[22:36] <Beldar> reverse engineered*
[22:36] <Beldar> eanyx, Unity 8 has it I believe
[22:37] <Original_Donald> Beldar, is there any way to fix it?
[22:37] <Beldar> Original_Donald, Minimal ways yes, the backlight is the major user really.
[22:38] <eanyx> Beldar: Are the raw performance better than X?
[22:38] <cat_pants> At the login screen, where can I select my window manager? Looks like there is no place to do so
[22:38] <Original_Donald> Beldar, I've done some googling and installed tlp but powertop still shows a discharge rate of about 30W
[22:39] <cat_pants> ubuntu 13.10, lightdm is the login manager
[22:40] <Beldar> cat_pants, 13.10 is eol.
[22:40] <cat_pants> Looks like this option doesn't exist: http://askubuntu.com/questions/162516/switching-window-manager-desktop-environments
[22:41] <Beldar> Original_Donald, What release?
[22:41] <cat_pants> Yes, I know that. This is what I have to work with though.
[22:41] <Bashing-om> cat_pants: 13.10 is EOL and no longeter supportd .. as to changing the DE .. try clicking on the ubuntu icon upper right of the login box .
[22:42] <testerr> Hello, all. I'm generating a self-signed cert for Ubuntu Server, and I'm trying to understand how openssl works. I've seen two routes suggested, summarized at https://etherpad.mozilla.org/OmExy1KyRQ -- is the only difference between these two that the private key is password-protected in one, and not in the other? Is there a major security difference between the two?
[22:42] <cat_pants> The ubuntu icon isn't there o_O
[22:43] <cat_pants> Ahh, I'll just nuke the box and throw the latest ubuntu on there
[22:43] <flashcactus> Dasm_?
[22:43] <cat_pants> Thanks folks!
[22:43] <Beldar> Original_Donald, Ah you already said 14.04, my mistake, there were kernel things added trying to deal with this at some point
[22:47] <Original_Donald> Beldar, is it just something to deal with until it's fixed?
[22:47] <Basketballl> https://www.change.org/en-CA/petitions/google-create-a-native-linux-google-drive-application
[22:47] <Basketballl> google drive for linux
[22:49] <Beldar> Original_Donald, Since the battery providers are not releasing linux firmware I think it is a just get used to situation to be honest
[22:50] <nehaljwani> I am trying to exec() in php but it is not working. Can anybody help me out? http://fpaste.org/125971/81424501/
[22:50] <Original_Donald> Beldar, well that kinda sucks.. thanks anyway
[22:51] <klemax> nehaljwani: can you paste php -i | grep disable_functions
[22:51] <nehaljwani> disable_functions => no value => no value
[22:51] <nehaljwani> PHP Warning:  Unknown: It is not safe to rely on the system's timezone settings. You are *required* to use the date.timezone setting or the date_default_timezone_set() function. In case you used any of those methods and you are still getting this warning, you most likely misspelled the timezone identifier. We selected the timezone 'UTC' for now, but please set date.timezone to select your timezone. in Unknown on line 0
[22:51] <nehaljwani> [root@sso html]#
[22:52] <nehaljwani> klemax, ^
[22:53] <Mybuntu> Hello guys, I was wondering if you guys could reccomend to me that Ubuntu variation I should install onto my computer.
[22:54] <Mybuntu> My computers only a year old, but i'm not sure if Ubuntu would be too bloated of an OS to install
[22:54] <Mybuntu> Also I'm concerned about privacy issues with the DASH
[22:54] <xangua> !adlens
[22:55] <Mybuntu> ubottu: what would you rate Ubuntu in terms of speed and stability?
[23:05] <Beldar> Mybuntu, All offtopic and full of bias, get the facts.
[23:05] <cat_pants> Mybuntu: I like debian + fluxbox. Fast as hell. Just my preference.
[23:06] <Beldar> cat_pants, offtopic keep it to support.
[23:06] <cat_pants> Alright
[23:21] <adam__> hello?
[23:21] <adam__> Anyone alive?
[23:21] <daskdt> hi
[23:25] <AudreyJean> I was trying to download and install pygame, but Package 'ffmpeg' has no installation candidate.  I downloaded ffmpeg, but I don't know where I'm supposed to put it.  Can someone please help me with this.  I am using Ubuntu 1404
[23:29] <AudreyJean> lovely.  All these people in here and no one is really here.
[23:34] <SchrodingersScat> AudreyJean: right, think they moved to avconv, I wonder if pygame would notice a difference
[23:34] <MonkeyDust> AudreyJean  what's the outcome of   which ffmpeg
[23:34] <SchrodingersScat> AudreyJean: so long as it's in your path I'm not sure it matters?
[23:36] <AudreyJean> maybe synaptic can help
[23:37] <SchrodingersScat> !info ffmpeg
[23:37] <SchrodingersScat> doubtful? unless you have a ppa
[23:38] <MonkeyDust> that's odd, both ffmpeg and avconv no longer exist in 14.04
[23:38] <CraftThatBlock> Greeting everyone :)
[23:38] <SchrodingersScat> !info avconv
[23:39] <NextBit> Yep don't upgrade unless you must :-)
[23:39] <athanaeum> Hi all. I have installed neflix on 14.04any sound, but it does not have
[23:39] <CraftThatBlock> Anyone please? http://askubuntu.com/questions/511955/cannot-boot-install-linux-on-msi-z87-gd65-gtx-770-i7-4770k
[23:39] <SchrodingersScat> !info libav-tools | MonkeyDust
[23:39] <MonkeyDust> SchrodingersScat  you're addressing the wrong person
[23:40] <SchrodingersScat> MonkeyDust: you said avconv no longer existed in 14.04, it's in libav-tools, yes?
[23:40] <SchrodingersScat> athanaeum: have you tried the native netflix yet?
[23:43] <MonkeyDust> SchrodingersScat  that was for AudreyJean
[23:43] <NextBit> Anyone here near Jacksonville FL?
[23:44] <athanaeum> schrodinger is there away to get that to work
[23:44] <SchrodingersScat> MonkeyDust: AudreyJean was asking how to get ffmpeg working with pygame..
[23:44] <athanaeum> shrodingerScat: not sure get that
[23:45] <SchrodingersScat> athanaeum: last I heard you need a beta copy of Chrome and something to change your referrer in chrome.  HTML5 has DRM now.
[23:45] <sagredo> hello friends i have a SATA drive that is not coming up mountable... it is running windows and will not boot or enter system recovery, any ideas on accessing it to back up the data
[23:46] <athanaeum> schrodingerScat: ok how do I do that. should I uninstall all and start again
[23:47] <jeff3> Hi, I have a question about my display, when I run lspci -vvv -s 00:02.0 there is no output. so I'm a little concerned. how can I fix this?
[23:48] <svetlana> folks suggested that if i'm using iwlwifi (i'm using iwl4965 specifically) then i'm using non-free firmware; how do i verify that?
[23:48] <SchrodingersScat> athanaeum: I'm not sure you've even listed what you've done to where I would know.  I found this link though: http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2014/08/netflix-linux-html5-support-plugins
[23:49] <sagredo> hello friends i have a SATA drive that is not coming up mountable... it is running windows and will not boot or enter system recovery, any ideas on accessing it to back up the data
[23:49] <jeff3> When I run lspci, my display doesn't show up at all.
[23:51] <sagredo> how can i tell if a hard drive is detected? its spinning
[23:55] <Beldar> sagredo, try sudo parted -l
[23:55] <sagredo> ok thx
[23:55] <Beldar> sagredo, Any info like the HD is or has been going bad, or the software has failed?
[23:56] <sagredo> Beldar:
[23:56] <sagredo> no it seems to be spinning fine
[23:56] <TJ-> sagredo: "grep -B1 'logical blocks' /var/log/dmesg"  will report all the discovered devices at boot-time. For later hot-plug connections use "grep -B2 'logical blocks' /var/log/kern.log"
[23:57] <Beldar> sagredo, spinning fine? nor sure how that has any relevance or how your measuring it.
[23:57] <Beldar> not*
[23:57] <sagredo> Beldar: well i have had drives go bad that made horrible noises
[23:57] <sagredo> TJ-: thanks man [    6.231562] sd 1:0:0:0: [sda] 1465149168 512-byte logical blocks: (750 GB/698 GiB)
[23:57] <sagredo> this is the dr ive i am trying to mount
[23:57] <Beldar> sagredo, Ah, well not a good way of knowing is all.'
[23:58] <cynicallemon> svetlana: iwlwifi is non-free
[23:59] <TJ-> sagredo: OK, now do "sudo parted /dev/sda print"
[23:59] <svetlana> cynicallemon, ya thanks, where can i read a couple lines to verify that? i like thought it's in the kernel and has its source open (some of kernel commit messages suggested some changes with iwlwifi and i thought the source code diff would also be available but i didnt check and now i dont know where to look)
[23:59] <jeff3> When I type lshw my monitor doesn't appear there either.  somehow my monitor is not being recognized at all even though I can still use it. weird.